Who is your favorite Doctor Who?

[TARDIS Team]

You guys should see the Torchwood backlash on some of the other forums I visit. Some people seem to forget that, long before the BBC opted to do a Torchwood spin-off series, Russell T Davies was going to use Torchwood in the new series. People complain about the final shot in “Tooth and Claw” hitting us over the head with information about a spin-off series some people don’t even plan to watch... but what they don’t realize is that Torchwood is an integral part of this series of Doctor Who, and it will all come to a head in episode 12 and 13 (according to David Tennant on the commentary track for Tooth and Claw.)

Anyhow, I really loved Tooth and Claw. It’s probably one of my favorite since the revival last year, but I can’t help feeling that the Doctor’s slightly more childish nature is bringing out a really annoying aspect of Rose’s character. Last season, I thought they struck a nice balance between childish and mature with her, but in Tooth and Claw... I wanted to go upside her head every time she decided to try to get Queen Victoria to admit she wasn’t amused. The only saving grace, for me, was the way the Doctor reacted to her failed attempts through the course of the episode.

I can’t wait to see School Reunion. I was in love with Sarah Jane Smith while she was traveling with Jon Pertwee’s Doctor (people forget she was his before Tom Baker came swanning in) and she’s still so lovely.

[Pal-El]

Loved School Reunion.

Anthony Stewart Head was awesome;)

[Lexgirl33]

School Reunion was very good! Top notch. Its just getting better each episode. Loved the interaction between Rose and Sarah. :D

[Keyblade]

The pertwee ref was the best bit of school reunion imo. It went "I used to know someone who went by the name of john smith" or something like that.

[Clarks Blue Eyed Angel]

Ah, so is the new Who airing in London already? I didn't think it had started yet. I saw this thread and assumed it was about the ones airing currently on Scifi. With Christopher Eccleston? I have to say, I'm really loving these. Last Friday's "Father's Day" was very touching, I cried quite a bit. Billie Piper was spot on in her portrayal of a daughter grieving the loss of a father who is standing right in front of her. She had that whole "it's so not fair, our time is stolen from us" thing down pat.

So you guys like the new ones? I'm a little worried. I'll give them a shot, but I've come to love CE so much, and the chemistry between he and BP, I don't know how I'm going to feel seeing someone else in his role.

Anyone know why CE didn't return for season 2?

Oh, I forgot to add my vote: I voted for someone else... Christopher Eccleston (I may have mispelled that).

[NewAgeJesus]

The new episodes started 3 weeks ago, this saturday will be the 4th episode.

I think most people felt that it'd be weird not having Chris Eccleston in the show, but really, the transistion has been pretty good... and I personally like David Tennant as much as, if not more than Chris.

As for why Eccleston left, I've heard a number of different stories, one that seems to make sense is that Russell T. Davies wanted to make sure viewers got the full Doctor Who experience, including a regeneration. There are also stories that Eccleston wanted to leave, due to being afraid he'd get typecasted, etc... But I don't know. I dont' care either. haha.

[Clarks Blue Eyed Angel]

Thanks, NAJ. Well, I'll give the new doc a chance. I'm sure I'll like it just for BP, she's cool. But I'll sorely miss CE.

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by NewAgeJesus


I think most people felt that it'd be weird not having Chris Eccleston in the show, but really, the transistion has been pretty good... and I personally like David Tennant as much as, if not more than Chris.



I definatly agree with you there. I thought CE was awesome and loved his Doctor but DT is great as well. Im liking DT more each episode.

[Randy G.]

I'm confused. :(

So, are the ones I'm watching on Sc- Fi. "old" episodes?
If so, just how old are they?

[NewAgeJesus]

Sci-Fi's episodes are from last year. They aired in the UK from around the start of april til about the end of June-ish.

[Keyblade]

**Spoilers for 2x04**


I thought this week episode was pretty lame, the plot was ok, tennant's acting was ok, but it just didn't feel like dr who to me. The doctor never snogged a woman back in the old series he never flirted with them as much as he does now, the doctor just... didn't act like that. Also, I find the episodes are getting more and more repetative now, back in the old series the episodes were at least 4 episodes a peice and therefore you didn't notice the repetion of it all but now with only single episode storylines I feel that everything follows the same steps every week.

[Welsh Dragon]

Originally posted by Keyblade
**Spoilers for 2x04**


I thought this week episode was pretty lame, the plot was ok, tennant's acting was ok, but it just didn't feel like dr who to me. The doctor never snogged a woman back in the old series he never flirted with them as much as he does now, the doctor just... didn't act like that. Also, I find the episodes are getting more and more repetative now, back in the old series the episodes were at least 4 episodes a peice and therefore you didn't notice the repetion of it all but now with only single episode storylines I feel that everything follows the same steps every week.

Oh I disagree there. I thought it was the best episode of the two new series and was simply wonderful. It had everything - plot, characterisation, thrills and spills. Sophia Myles was gorgeous in that dress and here sitting room in Tredegar House (in Newport, near me) looked fantastic. Not sure where the ball room was though, don't think that's around here.

They finally relegated Billie to a background character, how long have we been waiting for that? She's so annoying and a chipmunk.

5/5 for me, superb!

[Keyblade]

Doctor Who was better last night but something just didn't seem right like with all the episodes so far. I think it's because Billie trying to be the Doctor.

[PaulNeb]

Originally posted by Keyblade
Doctor Who was better last night but something just didn't seem right like with all the episodes so far. I think it's because Billie trying to be the Doctor.

Billie is more assertive than the Doctor's other companions that I have seen, but I have only seen Jo and Sarah. From what I've read, Ace was a handful too.

[Welsh Dragon]

***Incredibly mild spoilers for 2x05***










Good, solid episode but only a 4/5 this week. Found it to be slightly too-slowly paced, more like they were waiting for the second part to actually *do* anything. Strange really, as I've moaned in the past elsewhere about "new" Who being too fast-paced with the reliance on single episode stories.

Still, Cybermen looked menacing, not too keen on Trigger being evil ;), but when you consider Peter Kay's being a guest villain in a few eps time I'm sure he won't be the worst baddie this year.

Oh, and Billie is *STILL* annoying.

[PaulNeb]

I'm just wondering when SciFi is going to air season 2 in the US.

One note about the pacing. The older episodes of Doctor Who were only 30 minutes long. The new ones are 60. So a two-parter now is about the same length as a 4-parter back then.

[Keyblade]

Yeah, uhh.. so? They used to have 8 parters (Like the green death) and have 6 different storylines all connected each with 4 parts (The key to time).

[Welsh Dragon]

Nice design for the S2 boxset:

http://www.gallifreyone.com/images/covers/series2dvdbox.jpg

Hopefully they'll re-release S1 in the same sort of packaging at a cheaper price!

[Keyblade]

Thst's horrid. It's obviously fan made.

[Welsh Dragon]

Nope, it's from the BBC shop.

http://www.bbcshop.com/bin/venda?ex=co_disp-view&invt=bbcdvd2122&bsref=bbc

[Keyblade]

Blah. If they stay with that I'll buy the single releases.

[PaulNeb]

Originally posted by Welsh Dragon
Nice design for the S2 boxset:

http://www.gallifreyone.com/images/covers/series2dvdbox.jpg

Hopefully they'll re-release S1 in the same sort of packaging at a cheaper price!

Nice. I like it, but I've got over a year to wait for it. They aren't releasing S1 on this side of the pond until July.

[Keyblade]

This weeks wasn't bad, last weeks was better imo, but this weeks wasn't bad, everything was kinda obvious though, especially what happened with mickey

[PaulNeb]

Are we talking this week in the US or the UK?

[KSiteTV]

The spoiler in question is for the UK.

[PaulNeb]

This week's espisode in the US involved that character too.

[Welsh Dragon]

Enjoyed this week but it wasn't anything special. Hearing some good things about next week's ep, can't wait :D

[PaulNeb]

Well, "The Parting of Ways" aired in the US this Friday. Interesting resolution to the Dalek problem. The Doctor is dead. Long live The Doctor! :lol:

[Lexgirl33]

I havent watched The Satan Pit yet. Though it doesnt look that exciting. Just want to see how they get the tardis

[Pal-El]

The Satan Pit rocked. Really enjoyed that one. But this weeks, with Peter Kay in was very poor I thought. Hardly any doctor in it at all.

A completey different paced episode. Unusually I recognised all of the guest actors too.

Jackie was funny though.


Originally posted by Lexgirl33
I havent watched The Satan Pit yet. Though it doesnt look that exciting. Just want to see how they get the tardis

And they didnt really explain that did they?

So far Ive enjoyed this seasons Doctor far less than I did last seasons. Its not David Tennant, he's fine, just the writing hasnt been as good I think.

[Lexgirl33]

spoiler> Billie is leaving after this series.. <spoiler

http://www.billie-piper.net/

[TomWellingLover854]

Thanks for the major spoiler without spoiler tags :)

[Lexgirl33]

How is that a spoiler...Its all over the DW websites. Plus it has been discussed in this thread.

[TomWellingLover854]

Because if you don't read the doctor who sites and avoid anything in the news as doctor who like I do, then it is a spoiler.

Other boards I post at have apologized for putting it up, because it is a spoiler and they are meant to be spoiler free (Good job I didn't check there often enough to actually get spoiled by it but you get my point).

[Big Albowski]

MOD NOTE: In regards to spoilers, the news in question has been out for about a week and on most major sci-fi news sites. That being said, I request posters be more sensitive to spoilers regarding the show and encourage spoiler tags.

[Pal-El]

Billie is leaving after this series..



So if this is true.... then does Rose die in this weeks/next weeks episode?

[Pal-El]

DALEKS!!!

[TomWellingLover854]

Originally posted by Pal-El
Billie is leaving after this series..



So if this is true.... then does Rose die in this weeks/next weeks episode?

Didn't you see the teaser trailer for last weeks episode "My name is Rose Tyler, and this is how I die". Or something along those lines.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by TomWellingLover854
Didn't you see the teaser trailer for last weeks episode "My name is Rose Tyler, and this is how I die". Or something along those lines.

I did. But i posted that before I watched it...

[RedPhoenix23]

Aww Man! I hope Rose doesn't die! Wouldn't the series have to pretty much end for another couple of years again if she did die? The Doctor would be too messed up after her death to get another companion. The BBC really needs to learn to make their actors sign multiple season contracts!

Anyways...According the the poll... My favorite Doctor is Christopher Eccelston ("somebody else" on poll), and I'm pretty sure I didn't spell that right :p. Too bad he didn't stay for longer.

[Torgo]

Well, the season 2 finale was really something I thought. It almost had too many good ideas, but I think everything worked pretty well. Tennant and Billie Piper gave superb performances.

Liked how the announcer taunted us with the exact number of days before the next episode at Xmas. It's going to be a long wait.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by Torgo

Liked how the announcer taunted us with the exact number of days before the next episode at Xmas. It's going to be a long wait.

Damn right he taunted.

I cried like a little girl watching the finale haha

[Lexgirl33]

It was so sad :( But really we all know she was going to tell him sooner or later :)

[TMLS]

Some season 3 promo pics have been released, don't click if you've remained unspoilt for the end of season 2:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by TMLS
Some season 3 promo pics have been released, don't click if you've remained unspoilt for the end of season 2:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/

Thanks for the link TMLS:p

[Lexgirl33]

oh awesome! thanks!

[TMLS]

Cracking interview with <the person in the spoiler> on "The One Show" here in the UK last night. Seemed very nice, and very enthusiastic. Certainly got a better impression of them than with the other one.

(Sorry to be so vague, trying not to spoil and don't just have a link to direct you to!)

[TMLS]

bbc.co.uk's reporting that season 3 will be mostly "earthbound". Joy.

RTD's confirmed that the Christmas special will be one 60 minute show, not a three parter as rumoured.

Also not mentioned on here, a second spin-off's been announced - "Sarah-Jane Adventures" features the former companion and a 13 year old friend looking at aliens and the paranormal. It's to be shown on a children's channel over here.

Has season 2 started in the US yet?

[Lexgirl33]

Earthbound? eh

No season 2 starts the 29th! :D

[TMLS]

Most of the stories stuck on Earth.

Cardiff to be more exact I'd guess. Why for the love of money can't they film in a different place? As someone who knows Cardiff so well, it's crap to see the same places over and over again.

At least with Torchwood they're admitting it's Cardiff.

[Lexgirl33]

I definatly liked the stories that were out in space..or on another planet. It was nice to see earth in different times but hopefully they will drift out at some point.

[Antithesis]

I don't remember if this was mentioned or not, but since season 2 is starting next week, I have a question. I missed the finale of season one. Does the Doctor begin his chang in that episode or in the season 2 premiere?

In other words, Is Chris Ecelston(sp) in the first episode of the second season?

[Lexgirl33]

He changes right at the end of Parting of the Ways..You get about 3 seconds of Tennant lol...But no CE isnt in the first episode of season 2

[Teller]

Did they air the children in need special in america or are they going too? Because without that the gap between s1 & 2 would be wierd.

[Lexgirl33]

I have no idea

[PKII]

On the new show on SciFi Channel why did they change actor that play Doctor Who? I never watched the original. :eek: :(


Originally posted by Smallvillenews
I loved this weeks episode to... maybe I'm just over emotional or something, but that scene between Rose and her Dad at the end actually made me cry without realising I was crying... it finished and I was wiping tears off my face. It was a really good episode and those monsters were truely horrific... the scene with the empty baby shoe on the ground and that kid in the park watching everyone disappear :eek: Excellent episode. That was the best episode I've seen. :(

[Teller]

Originally posted by PKII
On the new show on SciFi Channel why did they change actor that play Doctor Who? I never watched the original. :eek: :(

SciFi didn't change the actor. Christopher Eccelston (The 9th doctor) didn't want to do another series so Russell T. Davies did the whole Regeneration thing again (Something they did 6 times in the orignal series) and David Tennet took over as the 10th doctor.

[PKII]

Originally posted by Teller
SciFi didn't change the actor. Christopher Eccelston (The 9th doctor) didn't want to do another series so Russell T. Davies did the whole Regeneration thing again (Something they did 6 times in the orignal series) and David Tennet took over as the 10th doctor. Yah I know Scifi didn't change it. I was wondering what happened that answers the question. thanks.

[TMLS]

Actually to be picky they've done it 7 times in total, if you consider DW:The Movie to be "old Who" like most seem to:

1st regeneration - Hartnell to Troughton (Seen on screen, died of age apparently, clothes regenerated too)
2nd - Troughton to Pertwee (Off screen, done as a punishment by the Timelords)
3rd - Pertwee to T Baker (Killed by a spider)
4th - T Baker to Davison (fell off a radio tower IIRC)
5th - Davison to Baker (Forget exact reason, didn't he get some kind of virus?)
6th - Baker to McCoy (He fell on the floor. As pathetic as the storyines at that time, that one!)
7th - McCoy to McGann (He was mugged, then the doctors messed up)

McGann to Eccleston wasn't shown on screen and hasn't been officially stated how it happened yet.

I hope you US'ers enjoy S2. I think Tennant's a wonderful Doctor. Be warned, the first episode (New Earth) is terrible, the second (Tooth and Claw) isn't too good either but better. Third episode (School Reunion) is very good if you remember the old stuff. Then you have the fourth episode (The Girl in the Fireplace) - in my opinion the best Who story of the lot, it's a wonderful story that's compelling and engaging and even a bit sad. I won't go into the the rest of the episodes as we could go into spoiler city (admittedly with the rules here I *could* spoil it but I'm not like that!).

Suffice to say, avoid episode 10 (Love and Monsters) at all costs. It's terrible, worse than the first episode.

Oh, and UK'ers... Torchwood now confirmed as starting Sunday October 22nd. Yay!

[PaulNeb]

Originally posted by TMLS
4th - T Baker to Davison (fell off a radio tower IIRC)
You recall correctly


Third episode (School Reunion) is very good if you remember the old stuff.
And it's the episode I've been waiting for months to see.


Oh, and UK'ers... Torchwood now confirmed as starting Sunday October 22nd. Yay!
Was it just me, or did Torchwood's weapon (Christmas Invasion) remind anyone else of the Death Star?

[TMLS]

Wasn't just you, been mentioned by a few people and have to say I agree.

Oh and with DW season 2 there's a drinking game. Every time they mention Torchwood have a shot. You'll be drunk very quickly! ;)

[Teller]

Originally posted by TMLS
Actually to be picky they've done it 7 times in total, if you consider DW:The Movie to be "old Who" like most seem to

I don't count it because the "movie" stunk worse than the 60's movies.


5th - Davison to Baker (Forget exact reason, didn't he get some kind of virus?)
All I remember is that it happened in the story "The Caves Of Androzani" Which I probably have on dvd but I'm too lazy to go see and/or watch.

Then you have the fourth episode (The Girl in the Fireplace)

Which I thought was worse than episode 1 of the series, the doctor was completely out of character for the entire episode.


Suffice to say, avoid episode 10 (Love and Monsters) at all costs. It's terrible, worse than the first episode.

Possible Spoiler...
The ELO one? Yes! AVOID, AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE! Only good thing about it was the blonde bloke dancing along to evil woman



Oh, and UK'ers... Torchwood now confirmed as starting Sunday October 22nd. Yay!

Can't Wait.

[TMLS]

Originally posted by Teller
Which I thought was worse than episode 1 of the series, the doctor was completely out of character for the entire episode.

Really? I'm shocked. I've only seen good stuff on that on the Who forum I'm on, we gave it something like 9.7/10. Guess it's the whole "entertainment's subjective" argument again, can never please everybody.

I wouldn't have said he was out of character, he felt something for her which makes all of us act a bit different. RTD's made his Dr capable of love (rightly or wrongly, another argument) so it seems to me with the way the character's evolved it's bang on. You're entitled to your opinion though, and I respect it.

At leas we agree on Love and Monsters!

[RedPhoenix23]

I didn't like "The Girl in the Fireplace" either. It seemed wrong. Christopher Eccelston's Who seemed like he loved ROSE so when the David Tennet Who seemed like he really really liked the mistress in this ep, it made everything between CEWho and Rose disguinine.

I liked Madame and everything, but the ho' got between my Rose/Who loving, lol.

[poguemahone]

Rienette was good.
Plus the whole thing about the Doctor finding someone who was perfect with him who he could never see again was fitting.
Still he looked so much sadder at the end of the last one when he said goodbye to Rose

Oh and Torchwood isn't that great...the storylines are kind of weak. Still I'd watch Captin jack in anything

[Teller]

Torchwood sucks ass imo, but I still watch it because it's dr who... I'll watch anything related to the who.

[TMLS]

The last two Torchwood eps have seen a definite improvement IMO.

[kidkarmina]

honestly, i didn't get to see or watch the previous doctor who shows / episodes.

in fact, it was luck when i was surfing and saw dr. who @ sci-fi. it looked interesting so i watched the whole thing.

the actor who played dr who right now (david tennet) is the only one i saw so i couldn't compare. so i voted for david tennet.

i think he's funny but that's just me.

[Pal-El]

I didnt enjoy the christmas special as much as I thought I would, but it was worth it just to see the clip with the Dalek.:D

[PaulNeb]

They showed "City of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" back to back here in the States on Friday. I feel so sad for Rose, and a bit cheated that there's no real closure there. How very cliche that the call got dropped just before the Doctor could deliver his message. You can assume, but you really don't know for sure.

I'm looking forward to seeing who the heck that was that popped up in the Tardis and how she got there.

[Antithesis]

I am too. I was suprised with that ending. I read here that Billy Piper leaves the cast, but it sounded like it was in the middle of season 3.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by PaulNeb


I'm looking forward to seeing who the heck that was that popped up in the Tardis and how she got there.


Expect her character to be really really annoying. Because she really is.

There is however a bloody awesome tardis chase;)

[TMLS]

Paulneb - "who the heck that was", without giving spoilers away, is a British comedienne called Catherine Tate (YouTube is probably your friend - watch especially episodes containing her character "Lauren" as the bride was just an older & wiser version of that) that people seem to either love or hate. Was quite a bit shock over here as she's recognisable by most, and her appearance wasn't leaked for once (most fanboys had concentrated on the expectation that a) Daleks would appear and b) Rose would leave/die in some manner).

Antithesis - To be honest that's what we thought too, until it leaked in the newspapers over here about four weeks before the episode aired.

--

Sitting here now after the next episode "The Runaway Bride" has aired over here (no spoilers), Tate, whilst I agree she was annoying, wasn't as bad as she could have been. I was more disappointed with the "let's make sure we check all the boxes" style of the episode. The TARDIS chase was pretty good, and there were some decent effects. They cast a reasonably big over here actress as the main baddie, and she was wasted under tonnes of make-up and well-realised CGI.

I gave it 3/5 on a site I go to, and frankly I felt Torchwood was more entertaining this week. Still, we had a trailer afterwards for "The Sarah-Jane Adventures" which is another Who spin-off, albeit a Kids channel one, which looked pretty good. I'll let someone else start a thread for that if they want to though, I did the Torchwood one ;)

Disappointed there was no Life on Mars S2 trailer too though!

[Torgo]

The effects throughout the xmas special were amazing - you could tell they'd upped the budget from last year (which was very impressive anyway).

I enjoyed Tate's character myself. 'Annoying' is a difficult thing to intentionally make a character (the problem with them being that they're, er, annoying), but I thought she clicked really well with The Doctor. And i loved the running gag of Tate being clueless about past invasions. The story was quite poor though. Never really got going until late on, and the villian was a case of style over substance.

Must say though, Season 3 looks like a real treat!

[TMLS]

The Sun (an English daily newspaper with a reputation for not always being the height of accuracy) is reporting today that Tennant is to leave mid-way through the 4th season shame if true, also being reported on BBC Radio 1.

Hopefully just a slow news day!

[Lexgirl33]

I enjoyed The Runaway Bride, but not as much as I thought I would. Last years special was definitely better

[Lexgirl33]

Does Series 3 start next month?

[PaulNeb]

Not here in the States... :(:(:(

[clarkoholic]

Hi there! I'm a new Dr Who fan. I watched the two most recent seasons these past two weeks during my break from college and I'm hooked! (I have Torchwood ready to go but haven't had the time to sit down and watch it.)

I thought "Runaway Bride" was good but only because of the Doctor (I love me some David!). That woman was so irritating and I'm so glad she won't be his next companion. I am a little worried that I won't like this Martha girl who is replacing Rose (man, I loved her!). Although, I loved CEWho a lot and thought I'd hate DTWho but now I think DTWho is way way better. So I'm sure I'll like Martha eventually.

Anyone know when Season 3 starts in the UK?

[TMLS]

Easter Saturday, the last two years. "Spring" say the BBC.

[clarkoholic]

Originally posted by TMLS
Easter Saturday, the last two years. "Spring" say the BBC.
Awesome! Thanks

[Lexgirl33]

Thanks :D

[Muse25]

I kind of fell into the show like two months ago and loved David Tennant. I have never seen the other Doctor Who's but I like David Tennant.

[superboy_2006]

Originally posted by TMLS


1st regeneration - Hartnell to Troughton (Seen on screen, died of age apparently, clothes regenerated too)
2nd - Troughton to Pertwee (Off screen, done as a punishment by the Timelords)
3rd - Pertwee to T Baker (Killed by a spider)
4th - T Baker to Davison (fell off a radio tower IIRC)
5th - Davison to Baker (Forget exact reason, didn't he get some kind of virus?)
6th - Baker to McCoy (He fell on the floor. As pathetic as the storyines at that time, that one!)
7th - McCoy to McGann (He was mugged, then the doctors messed up)

McGann to Eccleston wasn't shown on screen and hasn't been officially stated how it happened yet.


Lemme correct this. BBC or Russell T. Davis aka RTD say it was 9 regenerations so far.

1st regeneration - Hartnell to Troughton (Seen on screen, died of age apparently, clothes regenerated too) - Good
2nd - Troughton to Pertwee (Off screen, done as a punishment by the Timelords) - Good
3rd - Pertwee to T Baker (Killed by a spider) - Yes
4th - T Baker to Davison (fell off a radio tower IIRC) - Yes
5th - Davison to Baker (Forget exact reason, didn't he get some kind of virus?) - Apparently, he got infected by the start of episode and he saved Peri but didnt have antitode for him.
6th - Baker to McCoy (He fell on the floor. As pathetic as the storyines at that time, that one!) No, his TARDIS was attacked by the Rani, that knocked him out very cold.
7th - McCoy to McGann (He was mugged, then the doctors messed up) Wrong again, he was shot and died while operating.
8th - McGann to Eccleston - A lot of people think it's Time War that caused the Doctor to regenerated. (off-screen cuz RTD say he wouldn't bring back former Doctors on the screen again)
9th - Eccleston to Tennant - of course, he kissed Rose to suck all time vortex which caused his cell dying so fast and had to regenerate immediately.

Go to Outpost Gallifrey. They have many information about this.

[TMLS]

Erm, you've not corrected me. Just given "storyline" reasons - mine was colloquial and was as a viewer as opposed to a Dr Who nerd as I could have been...


Originally posted by superboy_2006
Lemme correct this. BBC or Russell T. Davis aka RTD say it was 9 regenerations so far.

Irrelevant. At the time (way back in October!) we were discussing how many times the regeneration had been shown before Ecclestone/Tennant's.


Originally posted by superboy_2006
6th - Baker to McCoy (He fell on the floor. As pathetic as the storyines at that time, that one!) No, his TARDIS was attacked by the Rani, that knocked him out very cold.

Watch it. Whilst there was a Rani attack, in reality the Dr really did just fall on the floor if you watch it and didn't look violent enough to "kill" him. It was pathetic, sure the fanboys at OG would agree...


Originally posted by superboy_2006
7th - McCoy to McGann (He was mugged, then the doctors messed up) Wrong again, he was shot and died while operating.

How was this wrong? He was mugged (during which time he was shot), then the Doctors messed up (actually watch it - they're out of their depth) whilst operating resulting in his death. Fail to see how I was "wrong".


Originally posted by superboy_2006
8th - McGann to Eccleston - A lot of people think it's Time War that caused the Doctor to regenerated. (off-screen cuz RTD say he wouldn't bring back former Doctors on the screen again)

Regardless of what people "think", it hasn't officially been stated what happened yet. And looks like it'll never be judging from RTD's comments. Although there are rumours that Big Finish may deal with it at the end of the current season on BBC7, although that could be down to an incorrect press release.



Originally posted by superboy_2006
9th - Eccleston to Tennant - of course, he kissed Rose to suck all time vortex which caused his cell dying so fast and had to regenerate immediately.

This was irrelevant to the post at the time, we were talking about previous regenerations in light of this one being aired in the US IIRC.


Originally posted by superboy_2006
Go to Outpost Gallifrey. They have many information about this.

No thanks. Full of fanboys who over-obsess even more than Trekkers. The information's accurate enough on the main site, but a bit sterile and I'd rather go to the SFX forum than theirs to discuss Who as they're a bit (well, a lot) more down to earth.

Are you my brother in disguise? ;)

[Torgo]

It is very funny watching someone who obviously isn't Colin Baker falling over and turning into Sylvester McCoy. In fact, McCoy regenerates into himself. I think a couple of the novels tried to offer up feasible explanations for what actually triggered the regeneration, but they're non-cannon.

[RedPhoenix23]

Yay! I got my second series DVD set today! I still like Eccleston's Doctor better than Tennet. For some reason Tennet reminds me of my dogs, lol. When he get's over excited about something he reminds me of my Jack Russell terrier - aptly named "Crackerhead" . And when he get's mad, he reminds me of my yappy minpin. *ruff* *ruff* Haha, when she gets mad her fur even stands straight up like his hairdo is fixed sometimes! Not all the time, but sometimes he's got this puffy kinda mohawk but not really a mohawk thing going on with his hair and that's what she has! So when he "yaps" AKA *ruff* *ruff* I can't help but laugh at the guy!

LOL, I hope I haven't offended too many Who lovers by comparing him to my dogs. :D

PS. I think the case problem must have been fixed because the plastic part seems to slide off and on just fine for me.

[Lexgirl33]

:lol: I like Eccleston's version better as well..but I do like Tennant also. And no I don't think you offended anyone..maybe those who like Tennant more but I think they would find it amusing

[TMLS]

I prefer Tennant. But it's a joke, anyone who finds that offensive needs to seriously get a life.

Saying that, when I did a "Marks out of 5 for all Nu Who Episodes" on another forum the other day, the Ecclestone episodes had a slightly bigger total so obviously I don't know my own mind.

Ecclestone still isn't The Doctor though. Just didn't sit right with me, he wasn't the character I'd grown up loving. Just a bloke with a TARDIS. Tennant's got the right mix of personalities.

[Teller]

There hasn't been a proper doctor since the Peter Davidson era IMO. Who went weird when Colin Baker became the doctor.

[TMLS]

Nah, Davison was pretty much my first, and the transition to Baker C at the time was fine. Yes he was annoyingly pompous but that was just another facet, and I think given better non-Pip and Jane Baker scripts he wouldn't have been half so bad - look at how his audio adventures have been received, he was voted best doctor!

And McCoy... McCoy I loved at the time and watching them back now I don't think there's any denying he's the same doctor we've seen all along. There are aspects of Troughton, Baker T and Davison evident in him.

Ecclestone just didn't sit right with me, I couldn't believe him, said it at the time. Maybe I was just too familiar with his work already, I dunno.

[PaulNeb]

I've only seen 5 of the Doctors. Pertwee, Baker, McGann, Eccelston and Tennant.

In order of preference: Baker, Pertwee, Tennant, Eccelston and McGann.

It may change after I get to see Season 3 of the second series.

[Teller]

Originally posted by PaulNeb
I've only seen 5 of the Doctors. Pertwee, Baker, McGann, Eccelston and Tennant.

In order of preference: Baker, Pertwee, Tennant, Eccelston and McGann.

It may change after I get to see Season 3 of the second series.

Which Baker? There's 2. Colin & Tom. But seeing as he's your fave. I'm guessing it's Tom.

[PaulNeb]

Originally posted by Teller
Which Baker? There's 2. Colin & Tom. But seeing as he's your fave. I'm guessing it's Tom.

You're right. On both counts. Tom Baker, scarf and all.

[TMLS]

For our American friends...

From http://www.**********.co.uk


'Massacre' glitch hits US 'Doctor Who' DVDs

Wednesday, January 24 2007, 10:59 GMT (05:59 ET)

By James Welsh, International Editor
A manufacturing glitch has resulted in an amputation scene from Texas Chainsaw Massacre appearing on Doctor Who DVDs available for rental in America.

According to TV Shows on DVD, subscribers to the Netflix postal DVD rental service were surprised when halfway into "New Earth", episode 1 of the BBC show's second season, images of someone having their limbs removed by chainsaw appeared.

The BBC was praised by the website for swiftly responding to the problem.

"Due to a manufacturing problem, Disc One of the Netflix copies of 'Doctor Who: The Complete Second Series' DVD collection contains incorrect footage from another film. The special features section on Disc One is also inaccessible on rented Netflix copies," the BBC said in a statement. "This error is only found on Disc One of Netflix copies of the series, not on any Doctor Who DVDs available for purchase in stores. We are doing our best to rectify this problem as soon as possible and apologize for any inconvenience or distress."

[Antithesis]

That's an odd thing to happen. I could see another Who episode being there, but Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I didn't think there would be anything that would connect Dr Who and that movie.

[RedPhoenix23]

Honestly, Eccleston is probably my favorite Doctor because he's MY FIRST Doctor. Now I am stuck and my mind says that is what the Doctor is suspose to be like.

[TMLS]

Regards the Texas Chainsaw bit a couple of posts above, had to laugh when reading British tabloid newspaper "The Sun" on Satuday. They reported the story, but neglected to mention the fact that it only affected a single US rental company, made it appear as if it was affecting all rentals! Hope there weren't any concerned parents reading it...

[Estro-gen X]

i just read the DVD review- pretty spot on. except the rose/rienette thing. i mean reinette laughed about a woman about to die when she was walking with her friend- i can't warm to that. rose is the normal girl that i can relate to. maybe she got a little clingy and jealous but look at the doctor to jack adam and mickey. the dance in the doctor dances was the doctor marking his territory for crying out loud. as for rose it was the same only reversed and how would you feel if you saw the guy/girl you loved fall in love with another woman in front of you. if she/she seemed to favour the ex more than you. i'd get a little possessive. i never see her as getting too much. well thats the only niggle i had with the review otherwise spot on!

and as for the poll- mcgann definitely the hot doctor, tennant is close though. eccles is my fave with mcgann but the hotness beat him out.:lol:

[TMLS]

Rumours today that Who S3 has been brought forward three weeks and will now air in March. Smart money's on the 24th March, as BBC3 start repeating S2 2 shows a week this week which will take it right up to the 24th.

Not long then!

[PaulNeb]

Wonderful. When's SciFi going to pick it up in the States?

[TMLS]

Big Dr Who unconfirmed Spoiler:

Life on Mars' John Simm is to play... The Master. Apparently there was a clue, as the Doctor's new companian Martha Jones is actually an anagram of... "John - A Master" ;D

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by PaulNeb
Wonderful. When's SciFi going to pick it up in the States?

They already picked up 1 and 2..3 will should start in the fall sometime.


Originally posted by TMLS
Rumours today that Who S3 has been brought forward three weeks and will now air in March. Smart money's on the 24th March, as BBC3 start repeating S2 2 shows a week this week which will take it right up to the 24th.

Not long then!

I can't wait :)

[PaulNeb]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
They already picked up 1 and 2..3 will should start in the fall sometime.
It's only February. Long time to wait. Blech.:\

[Lexgirl33]

Yup :lol:

[TMLS]

Who airdate now confirmed as 31st March. So a week later than we'd guessed, but a week earlier than we thought it was a month ago so still good.

[Sierra01]

Loves Dr Who .. yay for new series :D

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by TMLS
Who airdate now confirmed as 31st March. So a week later than we'd guessed, but a week earlier than we thought it was a month ago so still good.

Thanks for the info!

[TMLS]

One day to go :)

There's a trailer currently doing the rounds that features an appearance by John Simm in it. So looks like my earlier spoiler had some truth in it! :)

[TMLS]

Any thoughts?

[Lexgirl33]

I really enjoyed the episode. Although I do miss Rose, Martha was great. Its nice to see someone new that will be a regular on the show.

[Sierra01]

I had no problems with Rose, but i really like Martha

Once again the Dr delivered :D

The 2nd episode had me laughing all the way through ..really enjoyed it

[Lexgirl33]

Loved the 2nd episode :D you gotta love the Doctor's little comments

[TMLS]

The Shakespeare Code - minor continuity quibbles aside, for me it was the best episode since "The Girl in the Fireplace". A truly wonderful 45 minutes of television. Seen it a few times already, and I *never* do that so quickly.

[Sierra01]

Originally posted by TMLS
The Shakespeare Code - minor continuity quibbles aside, for me it was the best episode since "The Girl in the Fireplace". A truly wonderful 45 minutes of television. Seen it a few times already, and I *never* do that so quickly.

I absolutely loved the Shakespeare episode but i have to agree with you TMLS that * The Girl in the Fireplace* episode was amazing ......... tis one of my alltime favourites

[chrisxs5]

I voted for Eccleston but it is the series I have seen so far being new to the series. I have been wanting to go buy it, but have been trying to catch up on buying "all" the other shows I watch. TV is just starting to get to expensive!

[RedPhoenix23]

LOL, Brits sure are damn proud of their Shakespeare aren't they? I mean the SMARTEST man ever? Ever? In the whole history and future of the planet Earth and SHAKESPEARE is the one dude that's so brilliant that he see's past the psychic paper, figures out the doc is alien, Martha is from the future (compared to his timeline), and The Doctor turns to him to ultimately save the day? SHAKESPEARE??!!! :rotfl: That's pretty funny.

*runs away before the angry english mob can react*

[TMLS]

I'm sure they'd do the same to Einstein etc. They never said he was the smartest ever, you're clutching there!

Shakespeare was a genius though. His plays stand the test of time.

[rockchick900]

can't wait for tomorrows episode it looks really good

[TMLS]

If it's on... Man U - Watford may get in the way if that goes to a draw...

[Sierra01]

Originally posted by TMLS
If it's on... Man U - Watford may get in the way if that goes to a draw...

Hopefully it won't, it's on later tonight .. 7.40pm

(i don't do football .. i'd rather have dr who ;) )

[TMLS]

Looking good for Who, Man U 3-1 up so should be on!

Famous last words?

[TMLS]

Well that was a bit "meh"...

[rockchick900]

im glad that doctor who was on last nite and i was happy when man united won

[Lexgirl33]

I enjoyed Gridlock a lot, though not as much as the Shakespeare Code. The Face of Bo's secret...so much for a secret :lol:

[Lexgirl33]

Just for you US folks...The third series of DW will start on Sci-Fi in July

Torchwood will air on BBC America is December.

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/04/it_looks_as_tho.html

[TMLS]

December? But it directly links in to Who S3... ouch, that's not good!

Watched the Daleks in Manhatten twice now. The first time I watched it I was absolutely plastered and forgot it all. Second time... stone cold sober and still consider it unmemorable! Worst episode of the series for me, terrible waste of the Daleks made even worse by that final shot being ruined by it being on the front cover of our version of TV Guide all week...

[redeem147]

I've been watching Doctor Who since Hartnell, and I love them all.

But I have to say that Tennant is my favourite.

[clarkoholic]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
Just for you US folks...The third series of DW will start on Sci-Fi in July

Torchwood will air on BBC America is December.

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/04/it_looks_as_tho.html
Is that season two of Torchwood or the first? I've already seen the first and can't wait for the second to start airing!

[TMLS]

Well, season two doesn't start until January over here so it better hadn't be that in the states!!!!!! ;)

[rockchick900]

i can't wait for season 2 of torchwood

[RedPhoenix23]

Eh. Torchwood was boring. All they did was whine all the damn time about not having any freinds that knew what they did. *yawn*

[TMLS]

It got better towards the end of the season...

[RedPhoenix23]

Not really, the emoness never stopped. :lol: Worse yet, I waited to whole see to find out about Jack and what happened to him just to have him run off at the last second... Waste of time that was.

Anyways... Doctor Who.... What's going on? Any good eps lately? ;)

[TMLS]

The season in a nutshell:

Ep 1 "Smith & Jones" was pretty good, Ep 2 "The Shakespeare Code" was amazing, Ep3 "Gridlock" was OK, Ep 4 "Daleks in Manhatten" wasn't very good, Ep 5 "Evolution of the Daleks" wasn't as good as its title but was better than Ep 4.

Ep6 is on tomorrow night, then Ep7 in TWO weeks due to the Eurovision Song Contest.

Overall a reasonable season that started very well but is in danger of fizzling out.

Though this week the running thread will be introduced a bit more heavily.

[TMLS]

Ep6 - OK

Series continues to fester a bit, though there was a preview for the last half of the series which looked quite interesting...

[Lexgirl33]

I hope the series gets better, its been kind of lagging IMO

[TMLS]

This week it's "42". So called because it's in real time.

Hmm, now where have I seen that before? ;)

[RedPhoenix23]

I've seen a few of the eps already. Eh. I like Martha and all but it almost seems cruel to fight so hard to make the doctor like her so much and get uber attached. Aren't ALL of his companions destined to leave him afterall? Poor guy. :(

Anyways, I found some promo's on YouTube! Yay! They are very spoilerific so do not click on them if you don't want to be spoiled!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwO4aMsvJMk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn5eEwlf7dg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPyn4GowE0

[rockchick900]

i want to know who is mr saxon

[TMLS]

John Simm





Though I guess you don't mean that ;)


Oh course, the main internet idea of who he is... well, it's an anagram of "Mister Saxon" if you haven't already heard.

[RedPhoenix23]

Oh I know! I know! :D

Hint: Eric Roberts.

Seems random? Hmmm. Not really! ;)

[TMLS]

Yup, that's the fella. The sixth one to be precise...

[rockchick900]

ive heard that john simm meant to the the master is this true? because ive heard other rumours and there all confuseing

[TMLS]

Yeah, it's only a rumour at the moment, not even concrete enough to be a spoiler.

[TMLS]

Better episode tonight, but still not great. What a disappointing series this has been. Still better stuff than a lot of other series (having seen Smallville's season finale, even Love & Monsters was better) but not up to top standards.

[rockchick900]

i thought tonight episode was brillant and this series is my favorite david tennant is a great doctor and martha is a great companion.

[Torgo]

Originally posted by TMLS
Better episode tonight, but still not great. What a disappointing series this has been. Still better stuff than a lot of other series (having seen Smallville's season finale, even Love & Monsters was better) but not up to top standards.

Although the first two seasons set the bar pretty high, I still think it's been a pretty strong year. I liked Rose, but Martha's even better IMO. And the underlying story arc for season 3 looks like it could be quite special. It seems a lot better than the whole 'bad wolf' thing from season 1.

[RedPhoenix23]

I liked the fast pace of the newest ep. Lightyears better then that last one with the instant 'youth' then giant scorpian blender thing. Youth, my butt. That dude was still in his forties at least. I'm just saying if your gonna build the fountain of youth - go back to at least the 20's and make the actor playing the character be actually I don't know.... attractive?! Otherwise, he's just not believable as a playah. I cringed with Martha's sister was all "I was gonna snog him!" EWWWWW. And that's an ewww BEFORE he turned into a giant mutated scorpian monster thing! :eek:

Ohhhh... Mr. Saxon got mentioned at the end there! Woohoo. Too bad the next ep didn't seem to have him in it yet. Oh well, it still looks interesting non the less.

[TMLS]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
That dude was still in his forties at least. I'm just saying if your gonna build the fountain of youth - go back to at least the 20's and make the actor playing the character be actually I don't know.... attractive?! Otherwise, he's just not believable as a playah. I cringed with Martha's sister was all "I was gonna snog him!" EWWWWW. And that's an ewww BEFORE he turned into a giant mutated scorpian monster thing! :eek:

But.. but.. it was Mark Gatiss! He's a legend. Won't hear a word said against him.

[RedPhoenix23]

A legend of fugliness. :p

*runs away*

[TMLS]

I was more worried by the stunt casting of Mavis out of Corro in it. :P

[RedPhoenix23]

Corro? :confused:

And the American is confuzzled. :p

[TMLS]

See you, have to be British to understand the casting ;)

Corro = Coronation Street, one of our most popular TV shows. Thelma Barlow, who played Lady Thaw in TLE, was a comic-relief character with a catchphrase done to death by an impressionist on a TV show. Not the sort of actress you'd expect on Who. Well, not Nu-Who anyway ;)

Mark Gattiss, who played Lazarus, is one part of the surreal yet brilliant comedy group "The League of Gentlemen". As well as this, he was the narrator of Dr Who Confidential's second series and wrote The Unquiet Dead and The Idiot's Lantern. He was given the part of Lazarus as other projects he has going prevented him from writing an episode this year, and the part was written for him especially.

[RedPhoenix23]

Oh. I see now. Thanks! :D

Those were good eps. Gas monsters and killer tv sets? Had to be written by a comedian. :lol:

[Sierra01]

Originally posted by TMLS
See you, have to be British to understand the casting ;)

Corro = Coronation Street, one of our most popular TV shows. Thelma Barlow, who played Lady Thaw in TLE, was a comic-relief character with a catchphrase done to death by an impressionist on a TV show. Not the sort of actress you'd expect on Who. Well, not Nu-Who anyway ;)

Mark Gattiss, who played Lazarus, is one part of the surreal yet brilliant comedy group "The League of Gentlemen". As well as this, he was the narrator of Dr Who Confidential's second series and wrote The Unquiet Dead and The Idiot's Lantern. He was given the part of Lazarus as other projects he has going prevented him from writing an episode this year, and the part was written for him especially.

I thought he was excellent in that episode !

As for last nights episode , the Dr as a human ..very strange indeed ..i didnt think it was one of the best episodes i have ever seen tbh

(Girl in the Fireplace is still at the top of my favourite epsiode list, and it could take some beating ;) )

[TMLS]

Not seen last night's yet. Was at Wembley all day watching the team I support, to lose that game then get back to my Sky + not having recorded it really rounded the day off! BBC3 tonight it is then!

[KSiteTV]

"Human Nature" was odd. So often I think the show should have a slower pace but then this one comes along and was almost too slow.

This episode was based on a Doctor Who novel featuring the Seventh Doctor written about 10 years ago and I think the Seventh Doctor would have worked better in the episode. For starters, he had the mysterious/professory thing down a bit better... but beyond that... I could see his Doctor falling for a woman so plain, but as far as this Doctor, one has to be as hot as Madame du Pompadour to get his attention.

Also sadly from some of the performances, it kind of reminded me of a Seventh Doctor story... and I don't mean it that complimentary.

I did, however, love the glimpse we got of past Doctors - the first time that's happened on this version of the show!

[TMLS]

Just watched it. Wow, really loved that episode. Back on form.

And once again an American doesn't get who the guest star was ;) Jessica Hynes, nee Stevenson, played the Matron. Craig, I suggest you check out "Spaced" to see who she is and why her casting worked for us British "geeks" watching it! It's a Simon Pegg show, the guy behind Shaun of the Dead & Hot Fuzz if you know him.

Besides, this wasn't Tennant's Doctor - this is John Smith, and I got a whole "Goodbye Mr Chips" vibe from it, falling for her from circumstances.

Loved seeing the past Doctors, this is brilliant and picked up from Outpost Gallifrey:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/ormistonjames/WHOWHO1.gif

That really is superb.

Roll on next week!

[KSiteTV]

I actually met Simon Pegg at a party here in Los Angeles once. It was the week his episode of Doctor Who aired in the UK, so I was pretty excited!

LOVE that GIF. I just e-mailed it to my best friend who got me into Doctor Who in the first place.

[RedPhoenix23]

I know who Jessica Hynes is! Spaced rulz! It didn't bother me that she isn't Madam Ho pretty because I don't think that was the point of the character. Unlike the other dude from Lazarus - who was in a role that should have gone to someone that was actually attractive.

Eh. But I do definately think the ep was a bit slow in places. Especially when you look at the clock and realize that nothing really is going to happen in that sloooow ep and you're gonna have to wait another week. :( I HATE THAT.

[TMLS]

Ah, but what you didn't like about it is what I loved - the fact that it was building the story up rather than throwing it at you all at once. We got time to see just how settled in his life The Doctor/Smith was, so we can see what a big deal it'll be to him to realise that he's really his own fantasy.

OK, it's not as good as The Girl in the Fireplace, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances or The Shakespeare Code, but it's a strong fourth place.

[Sierra01]

Oh don't get me wrong , i enjoyed the episode ..and am definately looking forward to the second part ,i just didn't find it as memorable as some of the others

I wasn't too sure when i heard David Tennant had been cast as the Dr ..but i have to admit he's excellent, and i much prefer Martha to Rose

They just seem to work together so well :D

[Lexgirl33]

Man it had to end like that! The only thing that bugged me about the episode was the student that was possessed. He was just so damn annoying. Other than that I look forward to see what happens, though we all can probably guess.

And the whole falling in love thing was just awful.

[TMLS]

That... was beautiful. My god. Until the last 5 mins that was 4/5, but what an ending. Superb!

[Torgo]

Originally posted by TMLS
That... was beautiful. My god. Until the last 5 mins that was 4/5, but what an ending. Superb!

Agreed. By far the best episode of the season. Liked the twist as to why The Doctor went into hiding. It was a minor point, but I certainly questioned it early on, because the threat didn't seem THAT bad.

Made me glad they took their time setting things up last week, because the payoff was superb.

[Sierra01]

Fantastic episode ..... loved it !

[rockchick900]

brillant episode 5/5 best of the series so far

[Teller]

I thought the past two episodes were totally pants... especially yesterdays ep...

[Sierra01]

OMG the Weeping Angels were excellent !

[Torgo]

Loved the Weeping Angels. Thought this was a really good episode, especially considering the relative abscence of The Doctor and Martha.

[TMLS]

Yeah, another great episode - and showed how to do a Dr-lite episode 10,000,000 times better than "Love and Monsters" (and no paving slab blow job jokes!).

Watched it again later on last night, and it's a true 5/5 episode - so that's 3 in a row now. After my concerns on here in the middle of the season they've really come up trumps.

And next week... Jack's back! Dodgy hanging onto the TARDIS aside...

[Lexgirl33]

Loved this episode :D

[Teller]

I thought this ep was great and I agree with TMLS it shows how to do a ep without the dr 10,000,000 better than love & monsters.

[Teller]

BEST EPISODE OF "NEW" WHO EVER!

[TMLS]

**** me. Four episodes in a row now 5/5. And to think I was worried about this series half way through.

Words cannot express what the nerd in me is feeling right now :D

[Teller]

Originally posted by TMLS
**** me. Four episodes in a row now 5/5. And to think I was worried about this series half way through.

Words cannot express what the nerd in me is feeling right now :D

I don't see the show losing steam either so that'd be another 2 eps of 5/5 aswell before the season is out :D

[TMLS]

Just started watching it again!

[Lexgirl33]

Utopia was amazing! :eek: :D Best episode of the series by far!

[KSiteTV]

Captain Jack with his personality restored (he was kind of boring in 12 of the 13 episodes of Torchwood), THE MASTER!!!, and John Simm... could that episode have been any better?

They even managed to make the whole Human Nature 2-parter fit in to the overall scheme. I LOVE IT.

[Torgo]

I kind of thought at the time that Human Nature would fit in. I mean, I didn't quite figure it all out, but it felt like they were setting something else up, and it turns out they were. Loved the return of Captain Jack. I didn't see much of Torchwood, but he didn't seem like the Jack I remembered from Who when I did. He was great in Utopia though, wonderful interaction with Martha and The Doctor.

Awesome cliffhanger too. Nice touch having none of the regulars appear in the teaser.

[RedPhoenix23]

Wow! Three eps in a row that were all fantastic beginning to end.... I still think the first half of Human Nature was toooo sloooow.

I was so happy to actually see the REAL Captian Jack and not the emo version that was on Torchwood. I think it's completely useless that the Tardis didn't pick Jack up in the Torchwood labs though, since that show heavily implied that's where Jack ditched his team at. Don't get me wrong, for Doctor Who it totally worked that the Doctor was running away from Jack and all but for TORCHWOOD it failed.

[Lexgirl33]

Series 3 Starts in July in the US :D

[RedPhoenix23]

Score! Good to know!

Eh. I kind of liked the newest ep but I offically like Rose a hell of a lot more then Martha. She ran away when The Doctor needed her most! Besides her pining after The Doctor has been really getting on my nerves for awhile now. Doesn't she have ANY pride? I just want to scream at her: "He doesn't like you like that! Move on!" At least with Rose, there was hints here and there that the doctor liked her. Plus, Rose's actually "fall" for the doctor in the hardcore luv way was a bit more gradual and believable.

Hopefully, Martha will somewhat redeem herself in the next ep and everything about her running away will be better explained - but I still don't like the fact that she ran.

As for those flying sphere things.... their voices remind me of the the "Angels" AKA "Gas Aliens that live in dead bodies" AKA "the Gelf" from the ep "The Unquiet Dead". At least I think that was the name of that ep. Anyways, those aliens where sneaking their way into Cardiff through a small rift in time and space. Anyways, this girl named Gwen (who is played by the same actress who plays Gwen in modern day Torchwood) back in Cardiff thought that these aliens where "Angels" and the project that keeping The Master hidden from The Doctor was called ArchAngel. AND, I'm no expert but that giant crack in the sky that was allowing the killer sphere's to get to earth looked a hell of a lot like a rift in time a space to me!! Dun! Dun! Dun!

Coincedence? Probably. :lol: But that's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

[TMLS]

Rose sucks (not in the good way ;)) Martha is far better IMO as a character, though agree on the pining. Loved the bit with Jack "You too?".

Definitely the Gelf voice, remarked that to Alex (former poster on here TMLS' BROTHER) at the time but don't think it'll be them - perhaps a red herring that, or at best coincidence!

If rumours of who IS in the spheres are to be believed, it'll be VERY interesting!

[RedPhoenix23]

LOL, not in the good way. :lol:

No biggie. But.......... Martha is still just rebound girl - companion style. :p Hehehehehehe. A very panicky, screams too much for a future doctor, runs away when the goin' gets tough, with a very Clana-esque feel to her rebound companionishness...

ducks and runs

Anyways.... :lol:

Good to know I wasn't the only one who thought the sphere things sounded like the same voices that voiced The Gelf.

Oy! Rumours about the spheres? Do tell! Do tell!

[Lexgirl33]

*can't wait to watch it tomorrow*! :D

[TMLS]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Oy! Rumours about the spheres? Do tell! Do tell!

Glad I didn't tell - what we'd heard was spot on!

Bit of a meh episode that one, think it was over-hyped.

Shock number one, with The Face of Boe being the evolved Jack - wow! Someone on a forum I'm on had speculated it purely as a guess, and people rubbished him! Great reveal, didn't expect it.

Shock number two, with The Master (should that be Mistress?) - hadn't heard that one! Although I've just read people who didn't see it that way, a Master regeneration into a woman. Some say it was Romana, or the Rani - or even Lucy Saxon - picking the ring up. Hmm!

Shock number three, with Martha leaving - yup, that had been speculated and wasn't a surprise.

Shock number four, with the Titanic - hmm, interesting. Another that hadn't been speculated, and certainly caught me off guard as I was just waiting for Kylie Minogue to appear!

All in all then, a solid if unspectacular end.

Bring on Christmas!

[SuperShazam!!]

Martha is coming back in series 4! but the doctor also gets another companion, reportedly! It has also been said that Martha features in some Torchwood episodes for season 2!

[Lexgirl33]

Id love to see her back in series 4 :D

[SuperShazam!!]

yeh martha is well better than Rose, IMO!

[Lexgirl33]

I liked Rose a lot but she was more a love interest for the Doctor IMO. Martha was more a companion. I liked that fact that the Doctor didnt feel the same way. Made the show focus more on the story rather than romance even though Martha loved him..it was tiny bits here and there about that.

[SuperShazam!!]

i felt sorry for her! the doctor is a slut when it comes to companions :lol:

in the episode where he goes human, then goes back, u know the two parter. he even asks the woman he liked as a human, to come with him! Dirty Boy! :lol:

[TMLS]

Last week I couldn't stop tapping out the drum beat, this week I've got "I Can't Decide" by The Scissor Sisters constantly in my head. Hmm, maybe I'm obsessed!

[TMLS]

It is with great sadness that I announce the end of Dr Who.

The show has been mostly fantastic since its return in 2005. But the appointment of Catherine "The Runaway Bride that should have kept running" Tate as the new companion is OFFICIALLY the worst news - ever!

RIP

[SuperShazam!!]

it might not be so bad! i didnt mind her, and its not the worst news ever!

As long as Martha comes back and shows her whos boss!

I thought the runaway bride was good because of her comedy and serious performance

you either love her or hate her.

i absolutly HATE christopher eccelston, i cant stand him in doctor who, i think he is the worst doctor ever! i liked him in heroes, but in dr who ugh hate man.

but hey i still watched it and enjoyed it, just liked it better when david took over

[Torgo]

Seems a bizarre decision to me. I'd rather have Tate companion for half the year and Martha right through. I can see the two of them developing an interesting dynamic i guess. I'll reserve judgement until next year.

[Lexgirl33]

I hated Catherine Tate's character...dear god, this is awful

[SuperShazam!!]

come on! 'santas a robot!' i thought that was well funny!

but maybe it wont be good, i cant decide, id rather have martha

[STFanatic]

Dr Who returns Friday July 6!!

[KSiteTV]

I LOVE Doctor Who, but Catherine Tate may take things a little too far. She's more annoying than Bonnie Langford.

[TMLS]

LOL, that's what the Who-fan at work said today!

[STFanatic]

Less than an hour till the all new season of Dr. Who!!!!

[Muse25]

I was so excited to see the new Doctor Who! It was really good!

[constantine]

Originally posted by applecrash
[B]Yes, Eric Roberts did a great job as the Master. In fact, he made the character seem even more frightening than the previous actors had.

Dear god man (or woman), you madae me spit my coffee out. The problem with the show wasn't mcgann, it was that they tried to update a quintessentially english show with a bunch of americanisms.

[TMLS]

11 years on, I find the TV Movie an interesting curio. Who knows where we'd have been now had it been comissioned? There'd have been no "Sliders", that's for sure - something I enjoyed, and this way we got both and a proper British version of the show.

Roberts wasn't bad... but wasn't great either!

[TMLS]

Season 4 Press release:

The Doctor and Donna book a date with Agatha Christie.

Filming is underway for Series Four of Doctor Who, with Catherine Tate reprising her role as Donna, the runaway bride featured in last year's Christmas Special.

The start of the new series will see Donna tracking down the Time Lord during an alien emergency in modern-day London. The couple are destined to experience a series of wonderful adventures throughout the new series including meeting one of Doctor Who's most popular aliens, The Ood in a brand new episode, Planet of The Ood.

Catherine Tate said: "I am delighted to be returning to Doctor Who. I had a blast last Christmas and look forward to travelling again through time and space with that nice man from Gallifrey."

Donna and The Doctor will also be travelling through time for an encounter with the legendary murder mystery novelist, Agatha Christie, played by Jekyll star Fenella Woolgar. Fenella will be joined by The Good Life actress Felicity Kendal, who will star as Lady Clemency Eddison.

"What a brilliant idea that Agatha Christie and Doctor Who should meet!," noted Matthew Prichard, Agatha Christie's grandson. "Two characters whose contribution to British entertainment is absolutely unrivalled. As far as I know my grandmother, Agatha Christie, never saw Doctor Who, but I am sure she would have been intrigued, excited and above all flattered by all this attention in 2007."

Doctor Who's executive producer and head writer, Russell T Davies comments: "Visiting Agatha Christie has been on my wish-list for ages now, and for the Doctor, it's a real meeting of minds! Viewers can expect many more ambitious storylines and a whole host of guest stars in 2008."

Blackadder and Notting Hill Actor Tim McInnerny will also guest star later in the series.

Freema Agyeman who has played Martha Jones, The Doctor's companion throughout the critically acclaimed third series will return to the show to join The Doctor and Donna mid series.

[constantine]

Originally posted by TMLS
11 years on, I find the TV Movie an interesting curio. Who knows where we'd have been now had it been comissioned? There'd have been no "Sliders", that's for sure - something I enjoyed, and this way we got both and a proper British version of the show.

Roberts wasn't bad... but wasn't great either!

I think it's a foregone conclusion that the America friendly version was made for precisely that reason - Michael grade cancelled the show what....10 years previously? So the only real way I think they thought they stood a chance of getting the show made again, was by running it with an American audience in mind, and unfortunately, the American style of drama and British style of dramadoesn't even come close to being compatible. (want something similar to each other to draw comparison? Check out an episode of supernatural, and then check out an episode of ITV's primeval - very different in pacing and style)

The odd thing is, it doesn't explain how RTD has taken the Whedon-esqu story format and made it work for a British character, but indeed it does, but it actually demonstrates a prime example; if you asked an American viewer what his favourite who episodes were so far, and then asked the same of a British viewer, with a few noteable exceptions I think you'd get different answers.

But I digress; I think it's a little egotistical to claim that the show would have never gotten off the ground again without the Fox network involvement, as the character is so well loved on this sceptred isle, that a comeback at some point or other would have been inevitable. It is, in essence, the star trek of our generation.

Course...It helped that Michael Grade had no say in the matter. ;)

[MidgardDragon]

I prefer Eccleston, followed by Tenant. I've tried to watch the old episodes, but could never get into them. I did like Tom Baker better than the Movie Doctor, though.

I can't wait for Season 4. I didn't like Season 3 at first because I much prefer Rose over Martha, but it really picked up in the end, and I was amazed how everything came together. Torchwood was an alright (read: medicore) Who fix but now I'm even done with that. When does a new season start? I'm dying for my Who!

ETA: Also, when do they air the Christmas Specials? November? December? Christmas Day?

Note: When asking about times I'm asking about the British air date. There's no way I could wait for the Sci-Fi channel to air it's version now that I've watched every season online.

[TMLS]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
[B]I prefer Eccleston, followed by Tenant. I've tried to watch the old episodes, but could never get into them. I did like Tom Baker better than the Movie Doctor, though.

Good chap.


I can't wait for Season 4. I didn't like Season 3 at first because I much prefer Rose over Martha, but it really picked up in the end, and I was amazed how everything came together. Torchwood was an alright (read: medicore) Who fix but now I'm even done with that. When does a new season start? I'm dying for my Who!

Sarah-Jane Adventures - I believe it's due in September.

Christmas special - Funnily enough, it's shown at Christmas ;) November isn't special for us (our Turkeys get an extra month's stay of execution!), and it's usually shown nice and primetime - 7pm on Christmas Day itself.

Torchwood - January

Season 4 - Season 1 & 2 started on Easter Saturday, 3 started two weeks before that so it was brought forward from Summer. With a big Football tournament next Summer I'd expect Mid-March at this point.

[MidgardDragon]

What is Sarah-Jane Adventures? Another spinoff? Which characters from which show?


November isn't special for us (our Turkeys get an extra month's stay of execution!)

I knew that much I'm just so used to American networks refusing to show anything but reruns and parades on Christmas Day that I don't expect such things to happen anywhere. Cool that it does air then, though.

[TMLS]

Sarah-Jane Smith, the old companion who met Tennant & Piper in "School Reunion" (the one with K-9).

The hour-long pilot was shown on New Year's day, and should still be available in the same way Who S3 was to you (friends sending tapes over of course, don't mean anything illegal ;))

The only other known Who connection that I know of for sure is that the Slitheen are in it. Oh, joy.

The pilot was very good, and very promising. It's a kids show supposedly, but enough in-jokes for adults.

Official site is UK Only apparently, but the Wikipedia seems accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jane_Adventures

[MidgardDragon]

Oh *that* Sarah Jane! Hey if K9 is in it I'm there!

[TMLS]

Well, he's in it. But I'd be lieing if I said he was a main part of it. Watch it and you'll see what I mean.

[MidgardDragon]

Will do.

ETA: After I finish Jekyll, that is. ;) I'm floored by how great that show is.

[TMLS]

Indeed. Fantastic show.

[constantine]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I prefer Eccleston, followed by Tenant. I've tried to watch the old episodes, but could never get into them. I did like Tom Baker better than the Movie Doctor, though.

I can't wait for Season 4. I didn't like Season 3 at first because I much prefer Rose over Martha, but it really picked up in the end, and I was amazed how everything came together. Torchwood was an alright (read: medicore) Who fix but now I'm even done with that. When does a new season start? I'm dying for my Who!

ETA: Also, when do they air the Christmas Specials? November? December? Christmas Day?

Note: When asking about times I'm asking about the British air date. There's no way I could wait for the Sci-Fi channel to air it's version now that I've watched every season online.

The schedule this year might be shifted a little to accomodate the starting of the second season of torchwood - I'm reliably informed that BBC2 are looking into scheduling to see whether they can accomodate moving torchwood forward.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by KryptonSite
Captain Jack with his personality restored

This is exactly how I felt watching Utopia after having watched a few episodes of Torchwood. It's like two totally different characters. I love the Captain Jack that can make anyone (not just any woman, any person) fall in love with him just by being himself.

[constantine]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
This is exactly how I felt watching Utopia after having watched a few episodes of Torchwood. It's like two totally different characters. I love the Captain Jack that can make anyone (not just any woman, any person) fall in love with him just by being himself.

I like that in torchwood - people feel uncomfortable with the show, ecause it's more adult, but the character development was stunning - and the fact that they essentially got an episode each to jus develop character, makes me have hope for season 2

[STFanatic]

It is ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by constantine
I like that in torchwood - people feel uncomfortable with the show, ecause it's more adult, but the character development was stunning - and the fact that they essentially got an episode each to jus develop character, makes me have hope for season 2

Eh, Torchwood had great opportunities to develop Captain Jack, but seemed to prefer development on all the other characters. I really loved the open sexuality on Torchwood, but Captain Jack himself wasn't developed well enough, IMO. Dr. Who kept his open sexuality and made the character much more fun and interesting, IMO.

[constantine]

tbh, I think that was the case because

Utopia revealed a lot about him. It gave a kind of closure with revealing him to be the face of boe, so when you think about it, we know more about him than we first thought; we know he's been a constant companion, and we know that he was able to warn the doctor about the master because of what rose had done to him.

I do think, however, that there will be alot more exploration of Jack's limits after the last torchwood episode, and the events of series 3 of doctor who.

[TMLS]

What episodes are you guys up to in the States now? I'd guess you're just about in the mid-season lull (in my opinion) - stick with it if so!

[STFanatic]

Last night was episode 8 "42" in season 3.
Next week is "Human Nature".

[TMLS]

Ah, this is where it starts getting better then!

Quite possibly the best episode of Dr Who ever, is Human Nature. Must put the DVD in ;)

[MidgardDragon]

42, Humans Nature, and The Faily of Blood are all pretty good, but I didn't really start digging Season 3 until Blink, Utopia, The Sound of Drums, and Last of the Time Lords. Now *that* was an awesome run of episodes.

[constantine]

Blink blew me away, and I want THAT GIRL to be a companion. She was fantastic and a joy to watch. And I have to say that the only reason I didn't immediately enjoy the sound of drums and last of the timelords, was because they ruined the image of gallifrey I always had in my mind. I preferred what was in my imagination, you know?

Beautiful orchestration though.

[TMLS]

S3 Vol 4 out tomorrow :)

Will be the 14th Dr Who DVD I've bought in the last few weeks! :D

I'm getting a little obsessed...

[constantine]

Originally posted by TMLS
S3 Vol 4 out tomorrow :)

Will be the 14th Dr Who DVD I've bought in the last few weeks! :D

I'm getting a little obsessed...

My dear fellow, why the devil didn't you bide your time and buy the much cheaper but superior boxed sets and cope witht he season 3 repeats on BBC Three?

[TMLS]

My borther buys the box sets so I don't feel the need. Plus I don't buy every vanilla release, just the good ones.

More into buying classic Who to be fair, but these last two volumes have been pretty damn near as perfect as Nu Who can be so have been worth it.

(Plus they're not cheaper - I get them for £9.99 each, so if I were to buy a whole season It'd be 4x£9.99 = £39.96 compared to the £45+ season sets.)

[constantine]

ooooh...which ones did you pick up? I'm currently collecting the hartnell releases

[TMLS]

According to a thread I listed them in the other day:

The Beginning Box Set - An Unearthly Child, The Daleks, The Edge of Destruction
Spearhead from Space
Robot
The Hand of Fear
New Beginnings Box Set - The Keeper of Traken, Castrovalva, Logopolis
Earthshock
The Five Doctors
DW: The Movie
Nu Who: Human Nature etc.

[TMLS]

Got it. Derek Jacobi is a legend.

[constantine]

Derek Jacobi is indeed a legend. Good call on picking up the movie btw, mcgann is actually one of my favourite doctors

[TMLS]

Oh yeah. Have watched Who since I was a couple of years old, early 80s - just caught the end of Baker T according to my Dad but only remember as far back as Davison - so I saw the movie when it was originally on. Great to see it back then, and held up over time.

[constantine]

Yeah, Davison was my first doctor (so you good people can probably manage to gather my age from that :lol:), but I remember Pertwee with a great deal of fondness - especially for Worzel Gummidge.

[Randy G.]

Anyone watching tonight (on Sci Fi)?
What do you think of tonight's episode? :)

[MidgardDragon]

Family of Blood wasn't one of my favorite episodes. It's good storytelling but I always find myself disliking the "in the past" episodes for some reason (not including Captain Jack's intro, that is).

The whole becoming human thing was fun, at least. The Family just didn't do it for me, as far as villains go, though.

[STFanatic]

That was awesome :eek:

The main "Family Guy" was rather freaky.

[constantine]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Family of Blood wasn't one of my favorite episodes. It's good storytelling but I always find myself disliking the "in the past" episodes for some reason (not including Captain Jack's intro, that is).

The whole becoming human thing was fun, at least. The Family just didn't do it for me, as far as villains go, though.

Doctor who has survived 40 odd years with enemies like that...so I rather think you're in the minority in your opinion there my friend.

[President_Luthor]

I grew up watching Tom Baker's Doctor and Sarah Jane Smith as his companion. I also liked Pertwee's Doctor too.

My vote goes to the man with the scarf and his intrepid reporter companion!

[newbaggy]

Originally posted by President_Luthor
I grew up watching Tom Baker's Doctor and Sarah Jane Smith as his companion. I also liked Pertwee's Doctor too.

My vote goes to the man with the scarf and his intrepid reporter companion!

You are a man of taste and discernment, Mr Luthor, Sir! I too grew up with the magnificent Mr Baker and the lovely Ms Sladen, and so Tom's Doctor would have been my first choice.

However...

Back in (I think) 1994, I saw a BBC Scotland serial caled "Takin' Over the Asylum". It featured a young David Tennant (an actor who I had never heard of at the time) in the role of a manic depressive teenager. By the second episode, I couldn't help thinking that he would be a perfect for the role of The Doctor - when he was old enough (and if it was ever successfully revived). Since I imagined at the time that anyone playing The Doctor had to be at least forty years old (with the obvious exception of Peter Davison!), I was thinking that it might be another fifteen or twenty years before he was ready. Turned out that I was wrong!

Therefore, Tom will always be my childhood Doctor, but as someone who I imagined in the role long before many people would have heard of him, and who has played it even better than I dreamed, David Tennant gets my vote.

[Lexgirl33]

Just thought of something. In the episode "Rose" Clive, the who freak, shows Rose a pic of The Doctor right before the voyage of the Titanic. Now in Series 4, The Doctor (David Tennant) actually goes on the ship. Do you think he will remember?

[MidgardDragon]

Remember what? Does The Doctor know that Rose saw a picture of him right before the voyage of the Titanic? If not, I can't see any reason for him to remember/bring it up. It is one of the many awesome bits of continuity that Doctor Who has and keeps me loving it, though.

[Estro-gen X]

I can't believe sarah jane smith is described as the best companion in the new forum announcement. Scandal!




i love rose:(

[MidgardDragon]

Rose rocks both Sarah Jane Smith's and Martha's socks off, but from what I gather this is not a popular opinion. :)

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Remember what? Does The Doctor know that Rose saw a picture of him right before the voyage of the Titanic? If not, I can't see any reason for him to remember/bring it up. It is one of the many awesome bits of continuity that Doctor Who has and keeps me loving it, though.

The Doctor Remembering that he was about to stop a family from setting sail on the Titanic is what I mean. But its not a big deal, I was just watching Rose and had that thought.

[Estro-gen X]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Rose rocks both Sarah Jane Smith's and Martha's socks off, but from what I gather this is not a popular opinion. :)

Its more popular than you think. ;)

[TMLS]

Rose as best companion? Eeesh. Cockney chav.

Problem is though, unless you've seen Sarah-Jane's journey it's hard to appreciate just how good she was.

Ace is under-rated too, in my opinion.

[constantine]

I kind of liked Ace, she had her charm, you know? And hey. Anything is better than bonnie bloody langford. Well. I think martha draws about even there.