Everything Star Wars!!

[PETER WEST]

Here something I think you guys will enjoy.

http://www.joecorroney.com/portfolio/Star_Wars/Star_Wars_Misc_Art/VadersRemorse.jpg

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Thanks for the picture. It's very poetic. Has that romantic sense that still remains in Anakin. That's gotta be my favortie addtional layer to Darth Vader these days.

[PETER WEST]

My Favorite Jedi

http://www.jedinet.com/multimedia/cpg132/albums/userpics/Master-Jedi-Luke-Skywalker.jpg
Jedi Master Luke Skywalker ;)

[SWJaggy]

Those arts are great!

[PETER WEST]

Now this is cool, Fan art.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/DarthMaul431/MessagefromthePast.jpg

It reminded me of the Joiner King by Troy Denning (and what a great book it is). My favorite scene is when Luke is repairing R2, whose been malfunctioning to an old memory chip. As he is fixing up R2 he stumbles on a recording (much like how he stumbled on Leia's message to Obi-Wan in ANH) of Anakin and Padme during the ROTS scene when Anakin tells Padme of his dreams of her death in childbirth.

[PETER WEST]

Hey Summers in {STAR WARS} Battle front 2

You can play as Luke Skywalker


http://www.lucasarts.com/games/swbattlefrontii/indexFlash.html#JediWidget.gallery.screenshots

I can't wait to get this on Nov. 1 ;) along with the Episode III DVD & The Sons of The Force DVD(The story of STAR WARS : Anakin & Luke Skywalker.) from Wal-Mart :D

[Summers]

Hmm..Joiner King sounds interesting. I don't think I read that one. Now I'm intrigued :D.

Cool. I love playing Luke ever since NES Super Star Wars :D. The link isn't working :(.

I just hope Wal-Mart has enough of those :(. I so want the dvd on the Skywalker men.

[DarkseidX]

It's weird I could've sworn last night when I was playing Star Wars Battlefront on the PC, the person by the name of Gizmo was the same Gizmo from this site.

Do you know if she's a Star Wars junkie as well?

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by Summers
Hmm..Joiner King sounds interesting. I don't think I read that one. Now I'm intrigued :D.

Cool. I love playing Luke ever since NES Super Star Wars :D. The link isn't working :(.

I just hope Wal-Mart has enough of those :(. I so want the dvd on the Skywalker men.

Ah, the memories of the Super NES games. Such great adventures and so very true to the movies! :D

[Summers]

Gizmo? I have no idea.

I hope they put those games on the new platforms. I seen old 80s games on the new platforms. Why not NES Star Wars games :D.

[SWJaggy]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
Now this is cool, Fan art.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/DarthMaul431/MessagefromthePast.jpg

It reminded me of the Joiner King by Troy Denning (and what a great book it is). My favorite scene is when Luke is repairing R2, whose been malfunctioning to an old memory chip. As he is fixing up R2 he stumbles on a recording (much like how he stumbled on Leia's message to Obi-Wan in ANH) of Anakin and Padme during the ROTS scene when Anakin tells Padme of his dreams of her death in childbirth.

I loved Joiner King! And that scene you mention is a great one. I couldn't stop smiling. I need to read the next one "Unseen Queen".

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
Gizmo? I have no idea.

I hope they put those games on the new platforms. I seen old 80s games on the new platforms. Why not NES Star Wars games :D.

I think they will . ;)

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Another great image. Wish they had done stuff like that on screen more.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Summers
I hope they put those games on the new platforms. I seen old 80s games on the new platforms. Why not NES Star Wars games :D.
With the Nintendo Revolution, you will be able to download several hundreds of games that were on the NES platform all the way up to N64 from the Nintendo site directly onto your Revolution.

Here's hoping that they'll put the Super Star Wars games on the site. Think they will.

[President_Luthor]

From SW: ROTS. The more I hear this line, the more hilarious it gets.

Anakin: "Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that!"

Sounds like he's taking heart-to-heart advice from our boy, Clark Kent. :lol:

[Summers]

Originally posted by j03superbat
With the Nintendo Revolution, you will be able to download several hundreds of games that were on the NES platform all the way up to N64 from the Nintendo site directly onto your Revolution.

Here's hoping that they'll put the Super Star Wars games on the site. Think they will.

That I didn't know. I have been mostly paying attention to XBOX 360 news. Thank you for the info :).

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by President_Luthor
From SW: ROTS. The more I hear this line, the more hilarious it gets.

Anakin: "Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that!"

Sounds like he's taking heart-to-heart advice from our boy, Clark Kent. :lol:

lol

also I noticed , that Love is what saves Anakin in the end, Luke's love for his Father was so strong that despite all the bad things he did as DARTH VADER. Luke still saw good in him. And that's what saved Anakin's life.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

All this talk of new systems just shows how out of date I am.

I'm just content to swinging around New York City as Spider-man again in Ultimate Spider-man, but I have to say the idea of being able to get those games again would be so great!

[Summers]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
lol

also I noticed , that Love is what saves Anakin in the end, Luke's love for his Father was so strong that despite all the bad things he did as DARTH VADER. Luke still saw good in him. And that's what saved Anakin's life.

Which in turn gives Luke a connection to his mother Padma. Padma said nearly the same exact thing before she died.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
All this talk of new systems just shows how out of date I am.

I'm just content to swinging around New York City as Spider-man again in Ultimate Spider-man, but I have to say the idea of being able to get those games again would be so great!

Well, Lucasarts (forum) says that their has been some talk about next year, all The Episodes will be on one game, so the Whole Saga,

From Episode I to Episode VI .

So if this rumor turns out to be true, where going to have one badass STAR WARS game .

[Summers]

The rumor also said it would be on all platforms from Nitendo to XBOX as I recall as well.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
The rumor also said it would be on all platforms from Nitendo to XBOX as I recall as well.

yes it does.

[Summers]

See me a happy Jedi Knight :D

[PETER WEST]

I'm a happy Jedi Master .

[PETER WEST]

Here something I think you Luke vs. Vader (ROTJ) fans will enjoy .

http://www.tommyleeedwards.com/scans/fullsize/LukeVader.REVISED.mini.jpg

[Skywalker]

Cool Picture PW. :cool:

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Another great one!

[Summers]

Oooooo..I really like that one.

[UDStyle]

Peter that picture is just to really real

[PETER WEST]

I love it too, I said to myself when I first saw it, The SW gang would love it .

Glad you guys enjoyed it .

[SWJaggy]

Awesome picture!

[KJK]

SW! I haven't seen you around these parts forever. I remember the Star Wars Cantina thread. I wonder if that still exists...

[SWJaggy]

Originally posted by KJK
SW! I haven't seen you around these parts forever. I remember the Star Wars Cantina thread. I wonder if that still exists...

Good thing I still use the same name :p Over at the TFN boards, what's your user name?

NEways, I really started posting since the first episode of season 5 of Smallville aired. I had posted a few before then. But this is the first time I happened to come across the Star Wars topic. I'm glad too.:D

[Summers]

I finally bought RoTS Ep3 video game, and omg I love the new action figures out now. I bought this "Rebel vs. Empire" toy set that has Luke in his black Jedi outfit with Han by his side.

[Summers]

Who is going to Wal-Mart this Tuesday to buy RoTS the bonus dvd with extra footage? I just hope they have enough :(.

[PETER WEST]

Only 2 Days Left before EPISODE III DVD & Battlefront II are released.

[Summers]

Uncle Luke I came across some really cool Luke Skywalker pictures the other day.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
Uncle Luke I came across some really cool Luke Skywalker pictures the other day.

WHERE ? LINK Please. :D ;)

[Summers]

If me a couple of minutes to load into my photobucket, and I will show ya ;).

Here ya go Uncle Luke:
"A New Hope" and ESB Wallpaper I love
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/wp_luke_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/Luke-Skywalker-oversized-postcard--.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/luke.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/lsm.jpg

I really like this one too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/107luke_skywalker.jpg

[PETER WEST]

Nice. Thanks Jaina those are great pics. I'm going to add the into my Skywalker scrapbook.

[Shinzon2004]

Well guys Episode III is now available on DVD.

I must say that the movie is excellent and the DVD quality superior as the other Star Wars DVD realeses.

Now the Star Wars saga is finally complete in DVD.

Does Episode III means the end for Star Wars movies??

[PETER WEST]

I'm going to Wal Mart on Tuesday, To get the Episode III Dvd Exclusive With Bonus DVD) (Widescreen) : The Story Of STAR WARS : Luke & Anakin Skywalker.

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/02/45/43/91/0002454391034_500X500.jpg

Walmart Exclusive: The Skywalker family is at the heart of the Star Wars saga. Now hear the inside story of Luke and Anakin Skywalker from the characters who witnessed it in never before seen footage.

Walmart Exclusive Bonus Disc Includes: The Skywalker family is at the heart of the Star Wars saga. Now hear the inside story of Luke and Anakin Skywalker from the characters who witnessed it all: the famous droid duo C-3PO and R2-D2! Episodes IV, V and VI are explored in "The Story Of Luke Skywalker," which follows the young man escaping from his daily chores on Tatooine to his becoming a hero in the Rebel Alliance & a Jedi Knight.

In "The Story Of Anakin Skywalker," you'll go behind the mask of the greatest Star Wars villain and discover how Darth Vader started life as a young Podracing champion on Tatooine and later became a headstrong young Jedi seduced by the dark side of the Force. With clips from the Star Wars films, C-3PO and R2-D2 take you on an hour long journey through the saga and prepare you for the explosive final chapter: "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge Of The Sith."

Wal Mart.com (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4242488)

[Summers]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
Nice. Thanks Jaina those are great pics. I'm going to add the into my Skywalker scrapbook.

Welcome :). I wasn't quite sure if you had those pictures or wallpapers yet.

Wal-Mart better have enough of those because I don't want to get off work, and not get it :(.

here is the preliminary list of figures to come out next year that I saw at the message boards at www.theforce.net . All of them are 3 1/2 inch.

The Phantom Menace
Gungan Rep Been
Naboo Soldier
Podracer pilots 2pk
Gragra: Mos Espa Merchant
Obi-Wan Kenobi I want this one :D.
Darth Maul

Attack Of The Clones
Clone Trooper
Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi
Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader
C-3PO
Poggle the lesser: Geonosian Leader
Jango Fett
Republic Commando
Yoda

Revenge Of The Sith
Coruscant Fire Fighter Pilot
Lushros Dofine: Invisible Hand Captain
Commander Cody: Clone Commander
Anakin Skywalker I want this one :)
Clone Trooper
Ki-Adi-Mundi
Obi-Wan Kenobi and this one
Foul Moudama: Talz Jedi
General Grievous

A New Hope
Hammerhead: Cantina Denizen
R5-D4: Slacker
Hem Dazon: Cantina Denizen
Garindan The Kubaz
Han Solo SO WANT!!
Luke Skywalker AND THIS ONE!!
Sandtrooper

The Empire Strikes Back
General Veers
Major Bren Derlin
AT-AT Driver
R2-D2
Snowtrooper
General Rieekan
Darth Vader: Hoth Battle
Gonk Droid: Rebel Hangar

Return Of The Jedi 1
Leia Boushh I have this one as already as a 12" inch doll
Han Solo: Jabba’s Prisoner
Bib Fortuna
Barada Skiff guard
Chewbacca: Boushh’s Bounty
Boba Fett

Return Of The Jedi 2
Chief Chirpa
Moff Jerjerrod
Death Star Gunner
C-3PO: Ewok Deity
Luke Skywalker: Endor Confrontation ME WANT!!
Darth Vader: Endor Confrontation
The Emperor
Endor Rebel Commando

This is just the first wave that I know of. I hope they will start releasing some new 12" inch dolls again. I love collecting those.

This is neat, and only Wal-Mart Exclusives. I totally forgot to look for them because I rarely go to Wal-Mart these days.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/General_Yoda3/20051010_2_bg.jpg

Infant Luke Skywalker with Obi-Wan Kenobi
Obi-Wan Kenobi takes Luke Skywalker to live with the infant's Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru on Tatooine, knowing that one day Luke will prove instrumental in the return of the Jedi

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/General_Yoda3/20051010_1_bg.jpg

Infant Leia Organa with Bail Organa
Bail Organa offers to adopt the infant Leia and raise her with his wife on his home planet of Alderaan, where she will one day join the fight against the Empire.

[j03superbat]

^ Heh - at least we can own Luke and Leia as infants!

[Summers]

hehe yea lol. Just noticed they are colored coated. Yellow for Luke and blue-ish gray is Leia. So cute :).

[k18]

Originally posted by Shinzon2004
Well guys Episode III is now available on DVD.

I must say that the movie is excellent and the DVD quality superior as the other Star Wars DVD realeses.

Now the Star Wars saga is finally complete in DVD.

Does Episode III means the end for Star Wars movies??

I thought the movie comes out on Tuesday? Do you have an advanced copy? How is it?

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
Welcome :). I wasn't quite sure if you had those pictures or wallpapers yet.

Wal-Mart better have enough of those because I don't want to get off work, and not get it :(.

here is the preliminary list of figures to come out next year that I saw at the message boards at www.theforce.net . All of them are 3 1/2 inch.

The Phantom Menace
Gungan Rep Been
Naboo Soldier
Podracer pilots 2pk
Gragra: Mos Espa Merchant
Obi-Wan Kenobi I want this one :D.
Darth Maul

Attack Of The Clones
Clone Trooper
Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi
Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader
C-3PO
Poggle the lesser: Geonosian Leader
Jango Fett
Republic Commando
Yoda

Revenge Of The Sith
Coruscant Fire Fighter Pilot
Lushros Dofine: Invisible Hand Captain
Commander Cody: Clone Commander
Anakin Skywalker I want this one :)
Clone Trooper
Ki-Adi-Mundi
Obi-Wan Kenobi and this one
Foul Moudama: Talz Jedi
General Grievous

A New Hope
Hammerhead: Cantina Denizen
R5-D4: Slacker
Hem Dazon: Cantina Denizen
Garindan The Kubaz
Han Solo SO WANT!!
Luke Skywalker AND THIS ONE!!
Sandtrooper

The Empire Strikes Back
General Veers
Major Bren Derlin
AT-AT Driver
R2-D2
Snowtrooper
General Rieekan
Darth Vader: Hoth Battle
Gonk Droid: Rebel Hangar

Return Of The Jedi 1
Leia Boushh I have this one as already as a 12" inch doll
Han Solo: Jabba’s Prisoner
Bib Fortuna
Barada Skiff guard
Chewbacca: Boushh’s Bounty
Boba Fett

Return Of The Jedi 2
Chief Chirpa
Moff Jerjerrod
Death Star Gunner
C-3PO: Ewok Deity
Luke Skywalker: Endor Confrontation ME WANT!!
Darth Vader: Endor Confrontation
The Emperor
Endor Rebel Commando

This is just the first wave that I know of. I hope they will start releasing some new 12" inch dolls again. I love collecting those.

This is neat, and only Wal-Mart Exclusives. I totally forgot to look for them because I rarely go to Wal-Mart these days.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/General_Yoda3/20051010_2_bg.jpg

Infant Luke Skywalker with Obi-Wan Kenobi
Obi-Wan Kenobi takes Luke Skywalker to live with the infant's Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru on Tatooine, knowing that one day Luke will prove instrumental in the return of the Jedi

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/General_Yoda3/20051010_1_bg.jpg

Infant Leia Organa with Bail Organa
Bail Organa offers to adopt the infant Leia and raise her with his wife on his home planet of Alderaan, where she will one day join the fight against the Empire.


Great stuff . I'm going to get some of them for sure.

[snaps]

just to disappoint but i ordered my dvd from play.com and it was delivered saturday ...........yipppeeeee living in the uk had some advantages

[SWJaggy]

It's almost Nov.1st!!! I can't wait. I pre-ordered my copy 3 months in advance.

I have a new SW shirt that I bought so you can bet I'll be wearing it tomorrow!

[k18]

I pre-ordered Revenge of the Sith along with Episodes I and II. I ordered them last week, so I should be getting them sometime this week!

[PETER WEST]

I've decided since The Wal-Mart near my house is open 24/7, I'm going to go @ Midnight tonight to get My ROTS Dvd along with The Exclusive Bonus DVD (Widescreen) The Story Of STAR WARS : Luke & Anakin Skywalker.

[Summers]

Lucky :p. The one near isn't open 24/7, and I don't know if it is open at seven. If not than I have to wait until 3pm after work to get it. I hope they have enough.

[gC27]

STAR WARS EPISODE III DVD QUESTION!!!
can anyone tell me if the new ep III dvd has any altered, extended or or added scenes in it like there have been in past dvd releases?

[Summers]

Yes. There are deleted scenes in this dvd, such as Yoda arriving at Dagobah.

[VersesBatman]

I would have loved to have seen that!

[gC27]

Originally posted by Summers
Yes. There are deleted scenes in this dvd, such as Yoda arriving at Dagobah.

i know about the speacial features and deleted scenes, what i ment to say was that if anything in the movie iteself changed or if they added a deleted scene like in the episode I dvd

[Summers]

I seriously do not know. Sorry :(.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

The film should pretty much be intact as in the theaterical version. The deleted scenes will be seperate features on the disc as usual.

[Summers]

I think I may able to get the Wal-Mart package before I head out to work. I just have to leave a hour early.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Have to stop at the bank and get through one class tommorow and I'll be getting mine.

I know you'll get it, Mel :D

[Summers]

I can't wait :D.

I think I'm cursed this past few months because everytime a new dvd comes out I have to work. Once I get off work it's not there. I hope it is this time because I want that bonus dvd.

[SWJaggy]

Wahoo it's Tuesday everyone! When I woke up this morning I put on the ROTS soundtrack cd and to school I'll be wearing a new Star Wars shirt that I bought at Hot Topic.

Then after school I'm going to go pick up my copy of ROTS.

[k18]

Well, I just got my copy of ROTS today in the mail. A lot sooner than I thought it would be. I also got Episodes I and II since I didn't have them before. Now I just need a big screen TV to watch them. Sadly, all I have in my dorm is my laptop. :(

I guess it will have to do for now, though! :\

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by gC27
i know about the speacial features and deleted scenes, what i ment to say was that if anything in the movie iteself changed or if they added a deleted scene like in the episode I dvd
I heard that it is identical to the theatrical cut, unlike the Episode I and II releases.

[Summers]

I got it, and with the bonus dvd :D. They are also selling action figures as well. I bought the set that had Mace, Anakin, and Obi in it.

[gC27]

Originally posted by j03superbat
I heard that it is identical to the theatrical cut, unlike the Episode I and II releases.

yea i just bought it 2day and just saw it, i was hoping for some changes but oh well, i also got battlefront II for ps2 and its great!! i suggest every star wars fan to get it

[k18]

Oh, I'd like to get Battlefront 2 also. The trailer for it looked really cool. maybe when I go home for Thanksgiving break, I'll get it.

[ferd]

Don't forget to check out the easter egg :D It totally cracked me up.

Main menu go to Options--then highlight the THX symbol and press 1-1 ENTER then 3 Enter then 8 Enter.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by Summers
I got it, and with the bonus dvd :D. They are also selling action figures as well. I bought the set that had Mace, Anakin, and Obi in it.

I bought the set at Wal-Mart as well, but didn't get any action figrues. If I would have I would have got the Sith set instead I went for the Mask of Zorro on DVD.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
I got it, and with the bonus dvd :D. They are also selling action figures as well. I bought the set that had Mace, Anakin, and Obi in it.

cool Summers. tell me with The Bonus dvd, Did you like it ?

I liked the Story of Luke Skywalker, But I was dissapointed, that The Story Of Anakin Skywalker didn't have any ROTS content . I hope they re Release soon, With The Entire Saga .

[Summers]

I was dissappointed in the bonus dvd due RoTS not other there. It was great all the way through AotC, and a big let down.

[tiger17]

Whoa!! It's been a while since I've read Summer-speak. I'm getting rusty cause I couldn't decipher it at first. :lol: I got it eventually. ;) Anyways, my roomate bought the dvd last night between watching the Spurs season opener and a late showing of Serenity (only in theaters a few more days). Since it was so late when we got out of the theater we haven't had a chance to check out the movie or the bonus dvd. 'Spect we'll be giving it a gander this evening.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I'll probably won't be watching my until sometime next week. Going to be spending the night reloading my computer, thanks to Dell.

[UDStyle]

Dude, you got a dell!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Haven't heard that one in a while lol.

Means I no longer have my STAR WARS music videos. Oh well, I'll find them again.

[k18]

That sucks, reloading everything. I had to do that last year and it took a whiole before I got everything back. So, I got all first three episodes of the prequel, but haven't got a chance to see them yet. It seems I always have an exam every week. Well, I may get a chance to see them tonight! If not, then over the weekend.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I've got one or two of them coming up myself.

Sizing up next week to view Episode Three, but that really depends on the free time I have.

[Summers]

Originally posted by tiger17
Whoa!! It's been a while since I've read Summer-speak. I'm getting rusty cause I couldn't decipher it at first. :lol: I got it eventually. ;)

haha :p. I'm telling ya I can create a whole different language all my own.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I've got one or two of them coming up myself.

Sizing up next week to view Episode Three, but that really depends on the free time I have.

Watching on Friday when I babysit my sisters. They really loved the movie.

[gC27]

Originally posted by ferd
Don't forget to check out the easter egg :D It totally cracked me up.

Main menu go to Options--then highlight the THX symbol and press 1-1 ENTER then 3 Enter then 8 Enter.

lol i just saw it, any other easter eggs?

[k18]

I just saw the special features for Episode 1. They are pretty good. I like the "making of the movie" feature. They actually showed the auditions for Anakin Skywalker and kid who plays him, I think his name is Jake, signing the contract. They showed some pretty cool behind the scenes coverage there. Overall, awesome special features for Episode 1. There's still a long way to go before I see Episode 3 yet. I want to view them in order. Makes things more exciting.

[Summers]

I loved Jake Lloyd as young Anakin. He was so cute, and then he would give this look in his eye.

[k18]

I liked how they showed all three kids taking their final auditions. Jake messed up on his lines a little bit, but for a child actor, he's very good. The other kids didn't have what Jake had. It was funny how when he was asked how much he thinks the movie will cost to make and he said more than $50,000. That was funny. I guess he forgot a couple of zero's in there!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I guess I'm the only that heavily annoyed by Anakin. Jake fit the role but the scripting of the character was horrid and that turned me off to the character instantly and don't even get me started on the whole accidental semi-Death Star explosion.

[k18]

What was the semi-Death Star explosion? Are you annoyed by Jake Lloyd being casted as the young Anakin? I thought he was okay. He was better than the other two kids at the final audition.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I haven't seen the audition tapes to be honest.

The semi-Death Star was the ship that Anakin just accidentally stumbled on and blew up in the film since he was in the ship. Objectively, I think it was just the precedence of how he brought the character forth and how he was written. I really had issue with some of his lines....yeah, I know he's a kid, but it just bugged me.

[k18]

Oh, I know the scene you're talking about. I think George Lucas said he wanted to do that scene with Anakin as a way to foreshadow of what's to come with the Death Star and Luke. He said that in the "Making of Episode I" feature. He wanted to parallel it with episode 4, I guess. The best part of Episode I, though, was the duel with Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul. That fight scene was awesome! I remember watching it in the theater when it came out and was just amazed by the special effects. That was when I knew I really loved Star Wars.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Have to agree with you on that fight scene. One of my favorite moments in that chapter.

[Summers]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I guess I'm the only that heavily annoyed by Anakin. Jake fit the role but the scripting of the character was horrid and that turned me off to the character instantly and don't even get me started on the whole accidental semi-Death Star explosion.

I felt the same way about Hayden in AoTC :lol:.


Originally posted by k18
Oh, I know the scene you're talking about. I think George Lucas said he wanted to do that scene with Anakin as a way to foreshadow of what's to come with the Death Star and Luke. He said that in the "Making of Episode I" feature. He wanted to parallel it with episode 4, I guess. The best part of Episode I, though, was the duel with Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul. That fight scene was awesome! I remember watching it in the theater when it came out and was just amazed by the special effects. That was when I knew I really loved Star Wars.

That's what I thought it was. A parallel to ANH with Luke, but I'm glad Luke's wasn't accidental :lol:.

I love that fight scene to death. I enjoyed it a lot, and to have "Duel of Fates" playing in the background. One of my favorite SW compositions.

I really loved EP1 a lot.

[k18]

I just finished watching The Phantom Menace last night. I hadn't seen that movie in years. So glad I bought it with ROTS. I also got AoTC, which I'll see tonight. I wasn't that impressed with AoTC because it had too much politics in it for me, but Natalie Portman definitely makes the movie much better and worth watching again. I do like the final battle in the movie with the Count. Christopher Lee is awesome in that movie. But out of all three episodes, ROTS is definitely the best. Can't wait to see that later on!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I'm still working up to RotS.

I've got a soft spot for AotC in certain areas. I liked having Anakin a bit older, but by no means was he what I expected. I expected much more from him and I think RotS treated him best.

Still prefer the classic trilogy.

[k18]

Yeah the classic trilogy will always be the best. I just finished watching AoTC. There were some parts that were great and I just forgot about them. The battle with Dooku and Yoda was awesome. I'll probably see ROTS tomorrow if I have time. Anakin was the best in that episode.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I'm going to be watching it inbetween writing Saturday or Sunday night.

[yellowqueen22]

I'm still too disturbed by the horrible acting and poorly written script to watch the movie again. While I normally love Hayden & Natalie... they were quite horrible in this movie... and I can't tell if it was because of the bad writing, their own inadequacies, bad editing, or a very messed up combination of all three.

[k18]

I found Hayden's acting needs improvement, but he makes up for it in ROTS. In AoTC, Hayden was really good at brooding, but I think the writers did an overkill with that. At one scene I thought Hayden was going to cry because he was so depressed. I guess you can say that is good acting, but I thought it is bad writing. Natalie looks a lot more grown up in this film than the previous one. Only three years passed and she has grown quite beautifully. Her acting was okay, nothing amazing, but not bad either. I only saw ROTS once and that was opening day in the theater so it has been a long time since I've seen it. I'll check it out tomorrow and will give my two cents of how I thought the acting improved.

[DARKRAGE]

ahh good old star wars no one will ever be happy

[k18]

I guess not :\

[Summers]

Originally posted by yellowqueen22
I'm still too disturbed by the horrible acting and poorly written script to watch the movie again. While I normally love Hayden & Natalie... they were quite horrible in this movie... and I can't tell if it was because of the bad writing, their own inadequacies, bad editing, or a very messed up combination of all three.

That's George Lucas writing for ya lol. The other movies were handled by other people hence just plain better. Lucas is a great storyteller.

[KJK]

Indeed. Lucas is a great writer, but a horrible director.

[k18]

So Lucas only directed AoTC? He hasn't directed any other of the Star Wars films?

[yellowqueen22]

Just to clarify my position... I was talking about the horrible acting and writing in the most recent film... Revenge of the Sith. There were scenes it that movie too pitiful to have landed on a Hollywood A level film. While there were lots of good things about the movie, the writing, and I'm not talking plot, I'm talking actual dialogue, was so bad... it was painful. I've never felt that way before in a Star Wars film. Perhaps my expectations were too high... as everyone was hailing Revenge of the Sith as the best of the three new ones.

As for acting, I'm mostly criticizing Natalie and Hayden, both of whom are phenomenal actors in other films. Natalie - Closer, Garden State, etc. Hayden - Life as a House. But they were really really bad at moments in this film... and I can't for the life of me tell you why they were so bad... writing, directing, editing... I really don't know why. The scene that most noticbly sticks out in my head is the balcony love scene where they talk about the nature of love and their love for one another.

[k18]

Oh, okay. I thought Revenge of the Sith was pretty good and the acting was great. It was AoTC that I found Hayden needed improvement in. But it was his first Star Wars film and he did do a great job with ROTS, so I'm happy with him as Anakin.

[Summers]

Originally posted by k18
So Lucas only directed AoTC? He hasn't directed any other of the Star Wars films?

He did directed and wrote all three prequels, and "A New Hope" I believe. I'm not good on the crew credits very good.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by k18
Oh, okay. I thought Revenge of the Sith was pretty good and the acting was great. It was AoTC that I found Hayden needed improvement in. But it was his first Star Wars film and he did do a great job with ROTS, so I'm happy with him as Anakin.



In Episode II, I wanted to beat the living Day Lights out of him. Hayden as Teenager Anakin Skywalker was such a Whiny pain in the ass, I wanted to kill him.

Thank God,Hayden's Preformance in Episode III was FANTASTIC . He showed MAJOR Improvement in the way he protraded Anakin Skywalker, and His Transformation into Darth Vader was Impressive .

[k18]

Yeah, he really was whiny in episode II. In episode III, he was awesome and kicked ass. I almost cried happy tears when he put on the Vader suit!

[yellowqueen22]

I guess I just don't agree... I thought Hayden's love scenes with Natalie were over the top & force. Also, I thought his choice to join the dark side was very abrupt and seemingly undisturbed once it was made. However, I do agree that he was awesome once he assumed the full Vader role. Like I said before... I think a big part of the problem with his acting in this film was having a really poorly written script & bad dialogue.

However, I've only seen the film once in the theatres. So I guess I should give it another chance on DVD before making any final judgments.

[F-Stop Blues]

After watching ROTS and ROTJ I just really confused on who the chosen was actually is. Is it Anakin or is it Luke? And who is more powerful?

Also in ROTJ when Luke enters Jaba'a lair he force chokes those two pig guards. How does he know how to do that? Isn't that only a sith power?

[Summers]

The questions on Anakin and Luke are one of the most debated. According to George Lucas Anakin is "The Chosen One" while to many fans Luke is. If you are including the expanded universe Luke is far more powerful than Anakin. He exceeded his father.

Not really. The choking by Luke is not really a death grip per sa. Luke is able to just choke enough to just put them unconscionses whereas a Sith chokes to kill. It depends on your intention. During the time between ESB and RoTJ Luke trained himself, and was guided in more Jedi training. He did make his own lightsaber which ever jedi has to learn.

[tiger17]

It's said that the ancient jedis studied alot of force abilities that are considered dark side powers or rather that they studied both sides of the force seeking a balance and greater knowledge. Eventually, the school of thought that you either went one way or the other evolved.

[k18]

Here's another question. Who is Anakin's father? Does he have one or did he come from an immaculate birth?

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I think that was just meant to be left as a specific mystery and Lucas and probably a few others only know that answer. Only we can do is speculate.

[k18]

I'm not sure, but after seeing Episode 1 again, I think Anakin's mom said that he doesn't have a father and she raised him all by herself. Wouldn't it be twisted if it turns out that he does have a father and it is Palpatine? That would be cool because Anakin could then blame his turning to the dark side on bad genes!

[Summers]

Anakin technically doesn't have a father. The Force(the metacholorines) basically made him in Shmi's womb. It was a parallel to Jesus' origins which made EP1 get a lot more attention lol.

[k18]

That's what I thought, thanks Summers. So I guess Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were his father figures of some sort. Now, I guess it's Palpatine, right? Or maybe he's just a mentor than a father figure.

[Summers]

Qui-Gon and Yoda were more his father figures while Obi-Wan was more of his older brother.

A mentor can be a father figure at the same time. Palpatine was another father father Anakin had. Palpatine, out of all three, is probably the biggest father figure of them all because Anakin opened up to Palpatine and told him things that the other Jedi Masters do not know. Palpatine had the most influence on Anakin than anyone including Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. 12 years of it in fact.

[UDStyle]

I'm surprised no mention of the Jedi or Sith code was mentioned. I think the contrast would have mirrored Anakins change and why he was destined to be a Sith.

[Summers]

Confessionally, so was I. The books always mention the code for reference in the early post-RoTJ books. Plus it would help the general audience in understanding the difference between Jedi and Sith.

I don't know if Anakin was destined to be Sith or Jedi. He was just destined to be the balance in the Force, and he went into both schooling spectrums. The ending of RoTJ came off as if he was destined just to be a Jedi....hmmm

[k18]

IMO, Anakin seems like he was the chosen one instead of Luke. I know there is much debate about this, but Anakin was the one who defeated the Emperor in the end of RoTJ. So he did bring balance back to the force like the prophecy foretold, only he did it later rather than sooner. Does anyone else think Anakin was the chosen one or Luke is?

[Summers]

Here is the thing many fans don't view the prequels as credible because the originals speak of nothing of "the chosen one". When people heard of "the chosen one" prophecy people were like "huh" "WTH?!" because there was no indication of this in the originals. It was all prequel based.

I'm a traditionalist when it comes to SW. I still view Luke as "the chosen one" because:
-purposely destorys The Death Star
-aids his friends successfully
-is able to use emotions and is not a hinderness like it is to his father
-without him the Emperor would not be dead. Anakin didn't destory the Emperor just like that. He was aided by the love from his son who stood up to the Emperor and did not gave into the Emperor as easily.

Luke essentially had to go up aganist similar things like Anakin did, but he over came them and even exceeded his father in nearly all things.

Plus as Yoda said in RoTS (and even in BtVS) prophecies can be misinterpretated.

[UDStyle]

Lucas said on the commentary that Vader was the chosen one after all since he defeated Sidious at the end.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I think it will always come down to fan intrepretation on this point. I mean, Lucas can say it one way and fans will take it another. I personally still believe it's Luke but Lucas himself speaks otherwise.

[k18]

That's true, Summers. I guess Qui-Gon screwed up pretty badly, uh? I guess this discussion is very debatable. I think I will go with george lucas' answer that Anakin was the chosen one, though he messed up, he did bring balance to the force at the end with Luke's help. The prophecy said that the chosen one will bring balance to the force, but maybe Luke's purpose wasn't being the chosen one, but to aid the chosen one and help him bring balance to the force. Anakin maybe the technical chosen one who actually does it, but with Luke's help. Luke couldn't defeat the Emperor by himself, only Anakin could do that.

[Summers]

Originally posted by UDStyle
Lucas said on the commentary that Vader was the chosen one after all since he defeated Sidious at the end.

This is a man who altered his own mythology to fit his liking in the prequels. He altered it to give more depth to Anakin because he didn't want Vadar to be so iconic. He changes things on a dime.

I don't take his view on a the mythology he alters so quickly very seriously. He is not as bad as AlMiles, but he has his moments of contradictions.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I think it will always come down to fan intrepretation on this point. I mean, Lucas can say it one way and fans will take it another. I personally still believe it's Luke but Lucas himself speaks otherwise.

Exactly.

[k18]

Yeah, but he is the one who made the mythology in the first place. The way I see it, the guy had earned the right to tweak whatever he wants.

[Summers]

Originally posted by k18
That's true, Summers. I guess Qui-Gon screwed up pretty badly, uh? I guess this discussion is very debatable. I think I will go with george lucas' answer that Anakin was the chosen one, though he messed up, he did bring balance to the force at the end with Luke's help. The prophecy said that the chosen one will bring balance to the force, but maybe Luke's purpose wasn't being the chosen one, but to aid the chosen one and help him bring balance to the force. Anakin maybe the technical chosen one who actually does it, but with Luke's help. Luke couldn't defeat the Emperor by himself, only Anakin could do that.

Qui-Gon didn't necessarly screw up. He just had a lot of faith in the boy.

This topic is so highly debated it makes the shipper wars on SV look like small potatoes :lol:.

Technically Anakin didn't do it alone. Emperor was cleary intensely, focused on destorying Luke which gave Anakin a window to kill him. Now if it was a one on one duel between Anakin and the Emperor without distractions (which was what Luke was) then I would agree.

Luke's agenda in RoTJ wasn't to destory the Emperor, but bring Anakin back. He scarfirced his life to bring his father back. He nearly died because of it. He wasn't focus on killing the Emperor, in fact, he was fighting that notion.


Originally posted by k18
Yeah, but he is the one who made the mythology in the first place. The way I see it, the guy had earned the right to tweak whatever he wants.

So herego no logic. If you tweak the mythology anyway you want, then the story itself has no solid foundation. It is, in fact, wobbly. It is lazy writing which leads to plot holes, and bad continuity (SV is another example of it). It's a lazy weak thing to do. Right or not he messed up his own saga.

It just pulling things out of thin air. You know he wasn't heavily involved in EP5 and EP6 that much right? The ones who have the solid foundation are the writers from the expanded universe. They know it frontwards and backwards, and Lucas said he counts the books as credible. He made them canon, and all of sudden in RoTS he contradicted himself that makes them somewhat not canon.

[k18]

yeah because it would only make the emperor happy if Luke tried to kill him. I know what you're saying Summers. I didn't know this discussion was so highly debated. I never got into Star Wars until the special editions came out in the movie theater in 1997. The originals peaked my interest, but it was the prequels that hooked me in. The prequels are a good idea to bring in some fresh fans especially of the new generation who didn't grow up with the original trilogy.

[Summers]

Originally posted by k18
yeah because it would only make the emperor happy if Luke tried to kill him. I know what you're saying Summers. I didn't know this discussion was so highly debated. I never got into Star Wars until the special editions came out in the movie theater in 1997. The originals peaked my interest, but it was the prequels that hooked me in. The prequels are a good idea to bring in some fresh fans especially of the new generation who didn't grow up with the original trilogy.

Oh, yea he was even egging Anakin to kill him too in RoTS. Even if he dies he knows the two boys would be....evilllllll :lol:. I love Palpatine. What a great villian.

It's one of the most highly debated topics that arise out of the prequels. Then there is prequels vs. originals which I never go into lol.

I have the special editions on VHS tapes :). I agree RoTS did the same for my sisters. The prequels peaked their interest a lot. Plus the hottness of Ewan McGreggor :D. My older brother and I represent the age gap of originals while my sisters are in the age of prequels. They love it :). Ironically after watching all the saga the love the originals more :lol:. I never sway their opinions, but they can't get enough of ESB and RoTJ. I enjoyed the prequels, but I love the originals. My first film I watched was RoTJ in theatres :).

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
Here is the thing many fans don't view the prequels as credible because the originals speak of nothing of "the chosen one". When people heard of "the chosen one" prophecy people were like "huh" "WTH?!" because there was no indication of this in the originals. It was all prequel based.

I'm a traditionalist when it comes to SW. I still view Luke as "the chosen one" because:
-purposely destorys The Death Star
-aids his friends successfully
-is able to use emotions and is not a hinderness like it is to his father
-without him the Emperor would not be dead. Anakin didn't destory the Emperor just like that. He was aided by the love from his son who stood up to the Emperor and did not gave into the Emperor as easily.

Luke essentially had to go up aganist similar things like Anakin did, but he over came them and even exceeded his father in nearly all things.

Plus as Yoda said in RoTS (and even in BtVS) prophecies can be misinterpretated.

I agree 100% with you Jaina.

To me Luke is and always will be "The Chosen One" both in the saga and the EU.

As much as "Lucas" says Anakin is the chosen one.

I think the role of {The Chosen One} to fans is based "On a certian Point Of View."

Some fans believe Anakin is "the Chosen One" based on Episodes I, II ,& III (The Prequel Trilogy.)

Other's like myself believe Luke Skywalker is "The Chosen One" based on Episodes IV, V, & VI (The Original Trilogy) plus The Expanded Universe.

Where Luke becomes a Jedi Master (which his father did not.) Luke restores The Jedi Order (That his Father & Palpatine Destoryed.)

Luke becomes more powerful than (his Father or any other jedi before him. He is able to use the powers of the Dark Side for good instead of evil.)


Originally posted by k18
That's true, Summers. I guess Qui-Gon screwed up pretty badly, uh? I guess this discussion is very debatable. I think I will go with george lucas' answer that Anakin was the chosen one, though he messed up, he did bring balance to the force at the end with Luke's help. The prophecy said that the chosen one will bring balance to the force, but maybe Luke's purpose wasn't being the chosen one, but to aid the chosen one and help him bring balance to the force. Anakin maybe the technical chosen one who actually does it, but with Luke's help. Luke couldn't defeat the Emperor by himself, only Anakin could do that.

In "The Empire Strikes Back" Palpatine/The Emperor told Darth Vader, That Luke must not becoming a Jedi otherwise he would Destory them .

Palpatine/The Emperor forsaw Luke as The one to Destory The Sith, not Anakin.

That's why he didn't want Luke to become a Jedi. That's why in Return Of The Jedi, After Luke beat's the living crap out of Vader . And Luke destroyed Vader and brought Anakin back. After all his work trying to bring Luke to the Dark Side falled. Palpatine/The Emperor didn't waste any time to try and kill Luke. Making sure that Luke doesn't kill The Sith.

In The End Both Luke & Anakin Destoryed The Sith.

Luke Destroyed "Darth Vader". Anakin Destroyed "Darth Sidious".

[k18]

So then technically, Anakin did bring the force back to balance?

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by k18
So then technically, Anakin did bring the force back to balance?

I say That Luke Skywalker Brought Balance To The Force.

Since Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker was a Sith. He couldn't Destory himself.

So Luke Destoryed Vader. (and Brought Anakin back. who then Destoryed Darth Sidious".

So from "A Certain Point Of Veiw" The Forshadowing that Darth Sidious had of Luke Destorying The Sith. Came to pass. If Luke was not their, Anakin Skywalker would not have Returned and The Sith & The Empire would still be Ruling The Galaxy.

Because of Luke The Galaxy was Free, his Father Returned To The Light Side Of The Force. And The prophecy was fullfilled.

[Backward Galaxy]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
I say That Luke Skywalker Brought Balance To The Force.

Since Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker was a Sith. He couldn't Destory himself.

So Luke Destoryed Vader. (and Brought Anakin back. who then Destoryed Darth Sidious".

So from "A Certain Point Of Veiw" The Forshadowing that Darth Sidious had of Luke Destorying The Sith. Came to pass. If Luke was not their, Anakin Skywalker would not have Returned and The Sith & The Empire would still be Ruling The Galaxy.

Because of Luke The Galaxy was Free, his Father Returned To The Light Side Of The Force. And The prophecy was fullfilled.

Meh... George Lucas is quoted as saying Anakin was the one that brought balance. That's good enough for me.

[luthorsmentor]

i don't see how their is balance at all with the destruction of palpatine. then you are left with one jedi when anakin dies. how is that balance? that is one sided. you can't have the ying without the yang which is exactly what we were left with at the end of ROTJ.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Backward Galaxy
Meh... George Lucas is quoted as saying Anakin was the one that brought balance. That's good enough for me.

That's yours opinion, not mine. That's Why I said

"From a certian Point Of View." some fans believe despite what Lucas says , That Luke Skywalker is "The Chosen One".

Other Fans Believe Anakin is "The Chosen One".



Originally posted by luthorsmentor
you can't have the ying without the yang which is exactly what we were left with at the end of ROTJ.

Their's still evil out their in the galaxy even after ROTJ, (just no Sith.) and evil did not rule the galaxy, read The Expanded Universe.

[Backward Galaxy]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
That's yours opinion, not mine. That's Why I said

"From a certian Point Of View." some fans believe despite what Lucas says , That Luke Skywalker is "The Chosen One".

Other Fans Believe Anakin is "The Chosen One".



So, if I believe that Padme was secretly impregnated by Bail Organa, I can be right even though George Lucas says Anakin is the father? I mean, we didn't actually see Anakin's mini-kins swim their way to Padme's egg. We don't have video evidence that Bail Organa didn't sneak into her room while she was sleeping and did the nasty to her. So, I could be right.

Believe whatever you want. It's GL's story. They're GL's characters. And GL said Anakin's the Chosen One.

*swish*

Count it!

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Backward Galaxy
[B]So, if I believe that Padme was secretly impregnated by Bail Organa, I can be right even though George Lucas says Anakin is the father? I mean, we didn't actually see Anakin's mini-kins swim their way to Padme's egg. We don't have video evidence that Bail Organa didn't sneak into her room while she was sleeping and did the nasty to her. So, I could be right.

Now that's just plain stupid. We know Anakin is the Father because it's said in the novel. Plus Luke looks a lot like Anakin & nothing like Bail. Luke has his father's presonality Etc.

[luthorsmentor]

as far as there being evil in the galaxy after return of the jedi that doesn't really have a whole lot to do with "balance in the force" that's just evil that needs to be battled. now granted in the EU you find that there is a cloned dark jedi in joruss caboath and you know that and i know that and summers probably knows that but the average fan that is just going off of the movies ends up with just seing the one lone jedi at the end.

oh, and i forgot the witches on Dathomir and the spirit of Exar Kun but that wasn't really the point.

[Backward Galaxy]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
Now that's just plain stupid. We know Anakin is the Father because it's said in the novel. Plus Luke looks a lot like Anakin & nothing like Bail. Luke has his father's presonality Etc.

The point is, you can make up just about anything you want... think whatever you want. The fact is that the man behind it all, the CREATOR of the Star Wars universe, the guy responsible for the Saga has said flat out "Anakin is the Chosen One" and the Chosen One is the one to bring balance... and YOU have chosen to believe something else.

Hey, whatever, man. It's all good.

[k18]

IMHO, I will believe GL since he is the creator of Star Wars. He knows what he is talking about. He created Star Wars so I will trust him.

[DarkseidX]

The Battle of the Star Wars Junkies.:lol:

Anybody play Star Wars Battlefront 2 yet? I hear it kicks major ass.

[k18]

I want to play it but don't have my PS2 here in my dorm with me. I'll play it when I go home for Thanksgiving, I guess.

[DarkseidX]

:lol:

I took all my systems to my cousins house.

Life is pretty chill right now.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
The Battle of the Star Wars Junkies.:lol:

Anybody play Star Wars Battlefront 2 yet? I hear it kicks major ass.

I'm still working on RotS.

[Summers]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
I agree 100% with you Jaina.

I think the role of {The Chosen One} to fans is based "On a certian Point Of View."

Some fans believe Anakin is "the Chosen One" based on Episodes I, II ,& III (The Prequel Trilogy.)

Other's like myself believe Luke Skywalker is "The Chosen One" based on Episodes IV, V, & VI (The Original Trilogy) plus The Expanded Universe.

In "The Empire Strikes Back" Palpatine/The Emperor told Darth Vader, That Luke must not becoming a Jedi otherwise he would Destory them .


Those are the two main points of view that constantly go head to head.

I think I maybe on information overload, but if remember correctly Palpatine essentially tried to find the Skywalker child before he/she was come of age. He knew that if a Skywalker child was ever born he/she will be a threat to him and Vadar because that child could tap into the good of Anakin once again. Palpatine knew Vadar was stronger than him. Palpatine was scarred of Luke, and knowing that Leia was there as well since Luke let it slip....if Luke failed, then Leia would be next on the hit list for Palpatine.


Originally posted by PETER WEST
Now that's just plain stupid. We know Anakin is the Father because it's said in the novel. Plus Luke looks a lot like Anakin & nothing like Bail. Luke has his father's presonality Etc.

I found what BG said kinda funny because I remember some people were speculating that the real father was Bail :lol:.

This is never ending debate. What I think gives it more reason for the debate is that there is so many contradictions with what Lucas says during the time of the originals, after, and giving canon to the expanded universe (which basically labled Luke higher and more Chosen like). The contradictions is a variable why to this debate came about, and the originals.


Originally posted by luthorsmentor
as far as there being evil in the galaxy after return of the jedi that doesn't really have a whole lot to do with "balance in the force" that's just evil that needs to be battled. now granted in the EU you find that there is a cloned dark jedi in joruss caboath and you know that and i know that and summers probably knows that but the average fan that is just going off of the movies ends up with just seing the one lone jedi at the end.

oh, and i forgot the witches on Dathomir and the spirit of Exar Kun but that wasn't really the point.

I can understand, and completely logical. Then there is that whole deal with most of the stuff dealing with first 20 minutes of RoTS was just continuing the Clone War cartoons which many people did not see.

Think of it as this way with the "balance of the Force". Darth Sidious is the person that made it unbalanced already. He was tipping the scale even more by getting more Sith on his side (Dooku and Vadar). Making the Force unbalance. To make it balance once again Sidious, Dooku, and Vadar had to cease to be. That's the best way I can say it lol.


Originally posted by DarkseidX
The Battle of the Star Wars Junkies.:lol:

Anybody play Star Wars Battlefront 2 yet? I hear it kicks major ass.

ah, it's a past time lol.

I'm still playing RoTS. I'm on Musfar right now.

[tiger17]

My buddy just finished RoTS. I only play every once in awhile. It's funny, he and I are like Anakin and Obi Wan. I'm better at using the force tricks and he's more skilled with a sabre, but neither leaves the other in the dust.

[Summers]

:lol:

It took me a while to get the handle of the force tricks, but now I can do both :). What is hard for me is to transition back and forth with Anakin and Obi since their fighting styles are completely different. I want Obi to use force lightening, so I'll just keep pressing the button for it :lol:. I find the game far more smooth to play as compared to the young Obi-Wan game.

[tiger17]

I don't rely too much on the force lightning or stun (it's just ticket for shutting down sheilded droids tho). I'm a big fan of the pick'n'em up an' toss'n'em. My buddy hates it on the two player missions cause he'll be all in the mix hacking away and I'll toss sumpin' that goes boom into the fray and send him and all the baddies flying.

[Summers]

The force tossing is great to use against Dooku. I kept hitting with those things on the wall :lol:. I used lightening more when I got to Musfar with those big guys with sledgehammers. Oh, they got my nerves.

:lol: you hurt him too lol. I haven't played the two player missions yet. I'm saving those until the end.

[tiger17]

Lot's of fun. Especially with a partner that's worth their salt. "Batter Up" is a fun little game to play with droids.

Droid piñatas are fun too.

[Summers]

These are the missions you get by getting all the secrets on each level correct?

[tiger17]

I think some you get just for completing the missions. "Batter Up" and "Piñata" aren't actually missions that's the name I gave to a couple of double-team moves me and my buddy came up with. "Batter Up" consists of me tossing a droid in my buddies direction and him slicing it in two as it whizzes by. "Piñata" consists of me hoisting up a droid and my buddy running over and taking it apart as it levitates helplessly (like a piñata). Of course, every once in a while I toss it away just as he is about to make contact (like a piñata). It's like watching Charlie Brown try and kick the football...it never gets old. :lol:

[Summers]

oh :lol:. Great tactics, and omg I bet your buddy gets pissed when you do that lol. I would've done the same thing :lol:.

[tiger17]

Yes, but not as pissed as when I "us'n da boomers" in the middle of his melee madness. He hates that. I remember one time he was working on getting his meter up to "masterful" and he was real close. BOOM!! Droid parts and a Jedi flying every-which-way-but-loose. Completely threw his rythm off. Never got anything better than "fair" after that.

to quote Wash..."Wacky fun."

[Summers]

You do Jar-Jar :lol:. ouch lol

aww..Wash. Now I'm saddened lol.

[k18]

I can't wait to play Battlefront 2. I heard many good things about the game. I had rented RoTS for PS2 when it came out in May and got as far as the battle with General Grevious. I had to stop though and return it.

I haven't played it since. I still can't believe how good this movie was. The original trilogy was great though. I remember when I saw special edition of RoTJ in theaters, I dressed up as Luke in a black outfit when he comes to free leia and Han. I wore a black turtle neck and black pants and had a light sabre and the whole thing. I was a nut. But I loved that scene when Luke was going to be executed with Han by Jabba, and he fell off the platform and jumped back up with his light sabre. That was totally awesome!

[Summers]

I don't know if I'll get Battlefront because of the graphics. I don't know yet.

I thought Luke in the black Jedi outfit was so hot, and still do :). I love that super jump. The whole scene at the Sarlacc pit is one of my favorite scenes in the saga :D.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by k18
IMHO, I will believe GL since he is the creator of Star Wars. He knows what he is talking about. He created Star Wars so I will trust him.
Gotta' agree with you there. The EU that we know today wouldn't even exist if Timothy Zahn didn't think that Lucas wasn't going to make any more movies. Since then, we've had a slew of novels going off of what was stated in the movies; some of it being contradicted by the prequels.

So if in the prequels it's stated that Anakin is the Chosen One, then he is the Chosen One. Stuff Luke does after Return of the Jedi doesn't affect that fact. George Lucas has ultimate say-so.

I know lots of people say that Luke is the Chosen One based on facts from the Original Trilogy (i.e. Luke blew up the Death Star on purpose, etc.). I think it helps to look at things on a grander scale.

The Republic was corrupt. Before Sidious or Anakin, it was clear that greed was growing among the Senate and politicians. Even the Jedi, whose Codes and decisions were being muddled in the thousand years since they thought they defeated the Sith, was heading in a dark direction. This is why Dooku left the Order; he could sense the avarice in the Jedi Council (his turn to the Sith was manipulated by Sidious, not his departure from the Jedi in the first place).

That's why the Jedi could not successfully handle the manner after Sidious put his foot in and started weaving his web of conspiracy. He had the dirt on the Jedi to bring them down and he wouldn't have started the war if he didn't.

Anakin was meant to bring balance to the Force. He could defeat Sidious, but if he did, then the Jedi could continue to deteriorate. So Sidious turned him and Anakin, as Vader, wiped out the Jedi. He gave birth to a son and daughter that turned him back to the light and gave him the strength to defeat Palpatine, thus at last - after 20-30 years - bringing balance.

But that's just my point of view.

(which reminds me - in A New Hope, Obi-Wan explicitly states that Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin. Then in Return of the Jedi, he tells the truth and explains it away. To many, Luke was the Chosen One based on the story presented to us by Lucas. Then he went back and did the prequels, declaring that Anakin was the Chosen One. We don't deny that Anakin and Vader are the same person - why should anyone deny that Anakin is the Chosen One?)

[Summers]

IMO It is all "from a certain point of view".

To be honest this one of my stubborn POV I have, and I know I am somewhat bias toward the originals as well. Basically it is hard to let go of the past, and the contradictations by Lucas (he did make the books canon, and then he went on his word). It's just depends on the fan.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
The Battle of the Star Wars Junkies.:lol:

Anybody play Star Wars Battlefront 2 yet? I hear it kicks major ass.

It does kick major ass! It's far better than most SW games imho

[Summers]

Better than Rogue Squardon or the SuperNES games?

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Never played the SNES games and I would say better than Rogue S.

[Summers]

ah, the SNES games were awesome. I couldn't get enough of them.

Do they have the A-Wings?

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Ok.

I think so... I don't like the flying missions so I ignore what I'm flying, just go in guns blazing.

[Summers]

SNES games were games that were on the original movies.

I love flying and doing normal mode.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
Those are the two main points of view that constantly go head to head.



This is never ending debate. What I think gives it more reason for the debate is that there is so many contradictions with what Lucas says during the time of the originals, after, and giving canon to the expanded universe (which basically labled Luke higher and more Chosen like). The contradictions is a variable why to this debate came about, and the originals.





Care to start a Debate here ?

http://www.jedirio.com.br/news/luke_anakin_compara.jpg

Who is "The Chosen One"?

Hey guys check this banner from TFN.

http://www.theforce.net/images/banners/banner_saga.jpg

[Summers]

I love TFN banner right now. It's very cool.

The Debate again? I don't know we been through it a lot :lol:.

[luthorsmentor]

very cool banner.

[k18]

I posted a poll of who you think the chosen one is. The debate can be taken place over there so we don't have to go through it again here. Anything goes in that thread, so enjoy.

[Summers]

Good idea :)

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by k18
I posted a poll of who you think the chosen one is. The debate can be taken place over there so we don't have to go through it again here. Anything goes in that thread, so enjoy.

Great idea, I'll post my vote right away.;)

[Summers]

I wonder what pick Uncle Luke is going choose Jar Jar :lol:.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
Jar Jar :lol:.

No Way :mad: That's the last thing in The Galaxy, I would choose .

R2 would come before that thing.

[Summers]

:rotfl: just teasing lol

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Summers
:rotfl: just teasing lol

I know Jaina lol I know. :D ;)

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I pretty much stated mine from the get-go. Classic mythos all the way: Luke Skywalker.

[Summers]

Yup. Mine is pretty known too :lol:.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Now, I'm wanting to get SW books again. D'oh.

[Summers]

I want to re-read mine now. K18 really got me all excited about SW again lol. Talk about going in spurts lol.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I'm sizing up a marathon like I said. Next chance I get.

[tiger17]

Originally posted by Summers
Talk about going in spurts lol.

:eek:

:lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:


Ohh man...I hadn't done that in a long time!!:lol:

[Summers]

Are you thinking what I think you are thinking :lol: :rotfl:.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I'm sizing up a marathon like I said. Next chance I get.

On Obi-Wan?

I'm thinking starting over again with original movie adaptation novels and going onward.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

All 6 movies.

Finally put in RotS.

[Summers]

d'oh. You mean the movies lol. I'm starting mine on Friday. One by one each Friday while babysitting my sisters. We have our movie nights lol.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Watching RotS now and plan on watching it again later with a 12 hour marathon, when Thanksgiving Break hits.

[k18]

You guys are starting to give me ideas about a star wars marathon too! Maybe during Thanksgiving I'll watch all 6 of them. more than 12 hours of star wars, what a fantasy! Now, I'm getting excited.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

If you really want to add to it, watch the First Chapter of the Clone Wars Animated Series DVD to add to its length. I think I might be doing that with my marathon.

[PETER WEST]

This Saturday, I'm watch all Six again , only this time. My friends are coming to my house to watch The Whole Saga .

Most of them have see ROTS, But a lot of them like myself love The Orginal Trilogy . And Luke Skywalker .

http://www.starwars-tw.com/expand/comic/trilogy-06.jpg

[k18]

Wow, great comic! I don't have the Clone War DVDs but I will get them soon enough. Then it will be added to my ultimate marathon! I just got a book called "Star Wars and Philosophy" where it talks about the philosophy behind the Force. It looked interesting and I can't wait to read it.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I've seen that and the Buffy philosphy books, but never bought them. Spend way too much time doing that in class lol.

[Summers]

Originally posted by k18
You guys are starting to give me ideas about a star wars marathon too!

We love our marathons :). My loved ones and I are doing one for Harry Potter before the fourth movie comes out.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I've seen that and the Buffy philosphy books, but never bought them. Spend way too much time doing that in class lol.

I have those Buffy philosophy books :). They are very interesting reads, and a lot are academic essays.

I do like the interpretation Lucas gives for the Force "anything the viewer wants". I paraphased it, but he is saying the Force is up to the viewers imagination mostly.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
This Saturday, I'm watch all Six again , only this time. My friends are coming to my house to watch The Whole Saga .

Most of them have see ROTS, But a lot of them like myself love The Orginal Trilogy . And Luke Skywalker .

http://www.starwars-tw.com/expand/comic/trilogy-06.jpg

The classic Marvel adaptation of RETURN OF THE JEDI. Ah, the memories of the comic books that I stumbled on as a kid.

[Summers]

I loved that comic :). Thanks, Uncle Luke.

That close up shot of Luke is drawn pretty good.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

If my memory proves correct Dark Horse also enlisted their own team of writers to do the films all over again in comics format. They also did manga versions of the series as well.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
If my memory proves correct Dark Horse also enlisted their own team of writers to do the films all over again in comics format. They also did manga versions of the series as well.

Yeah this comic.

http://www.brokenfrontier.com/img/2005/mar/DH/SWCC-FC-FNL.jpg

[k18]

Pretty cool!

[Summers]

Now that is cool :D.

[PETER WEST]

http://amenazafantasma.tripod.com/index01.jpghttp://amenazafantasma.tripod.com/index02.jpghttp://amenazafantasma.tripod.com/index03.jpg
http://amenazafantasma.tripod.com/index04.jpghttp://amenazafantasma.tripod.com/index05.jpghttp://amenazafantasma.tripod.com/index06.jpg


THE SAGA IS NOW COMPLETE

;)

[Summers]

I have to say I do love the special edition posters of the originals far more.

[k18]

I think the episode 5 poster is the best. Just look at it! Darth Vader and the Emperor, awesome!

[Summers]

For me:
EP1
EP3
EP4
EP6

Are my favorite.

[PETER WEST]

Posters

(1) Return Of The Jedi - EPISODE VI

(2) The Empire Strikes Back - EPISODE V

(3) A New Hope - EPISODE IV

(4) Revenge Of The Sith - EPISODE III

(5) Attack Of The Clones - EPISODE II

(6) The Phantom Menace - EPISODE I

http://www.tnthobbies.force9.co.uk/ISDArt1a.jpg
ANH - Episode IV

http://www.tnthobbies.force9.co.uk/ISDArt2a.jpg
ESB - Episode V

http://www.tnthobbies.force9.co.uk/ISDArt3a.jpg
ROTJ - Epiosde VI

More STAR WARS pics.

http://www.brothershildebrandt.com/Images/newhope.jpg

http://www.brothershildebrandt.com/Images/luke.jpg

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

All very awesome posters!

[k18]

Again, very cool posters!

[PETER WEST]

I'll be watching The Apprentice",Tomorrow night to watch The STAR WARS special .

check it out .

STAR WARS/ "The Apprentice," (http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/video/longer.html)

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I'll have to defintely check it out.

[Summers]

For a moment I thought he meet the show lol. Thank you so much for these pictures. I never seen those covers before.

I really love the ANH and RoTJ ones.

Found some new gifs:

X-Wings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thX-wingsattackdeathstar189x96s4.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thStarWarsX-wingwallpaper988.gif

Evil Anakin (which this was in brighter resolution :( )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thththeec03b6f.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thsw42.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thsabreduel190x96.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/throtj-duel.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thdooku1.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thAnakinvsObi-Wan957Kb.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/th6f9zpd.gif

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Evil Anakin rules in my mind!

[Summers]

I have the Imperial March music in my head every time I see it lol.

The X-Wings I love as well.

[tiger17]

TiE-Defender my favorite thing to fight in. Nothing else I'd rather be in when destroying "rebel scum".

[Summers]

ah, traitor :p..........just kidding lol.

Give me an A-Wing and X-Wing, and I'm good to go. But the Y-Wings...I'm a goner. I can never fly those.

[tiger17]

Y-wings are death traps. My favorite StarWars game ever is "TiE-Fighter" and the Defender was the ultimate bird. It had the speed to run down an A-Wing in a straight away and it could juke an X-Wing out of its jock strap when you were in the soup. Y-Wings were like fish in a barrel. B-Wings were only a slightly tougher nut to crack but only because of superior sheilding and armor. It wasn't hard to get in a kill position on one, but while you pummelled away at that one his wing man would quickly find your six and if your wing man wasn't Johnny-on-the-spot to cover, you found yourself in quite a pickle.

[snaps]

back to the subject of the animated clone wars dvd ive got my part 2 ordered already but i have to wait for it tobe released ...not fair

[Summers]

:lol: @ the change of subject

Peter has great pictures on the previous page, and I put some SW gifs up as well.

[k18]

when is clone wars part 2 coming out? I don't even have part 1 yet.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by k18
when is clone wars part 2 coming out?


December 6, 2005 Star Wars: Clone Wars Volume 2 dvd.


http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/img/20050905_bg.jpg

STAR WARS.com (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/news20050905.html) ;)

[k18]

thanks Peter!

[snaps]

Originally posted by Summers
:lol: @ the change of subject

Peter has great pictures on the previous page, and I put some SW gifs up as well.



i did look at the pictures on the previous page i agree they were great ....i really liked the anankin vader and luke one.....

[k18]

yeah, the pics were so cool. Anakin vader is awesome!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
December 6, 2005 Star Wars: Clone Wars Volume 2 dvd.


http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/img/20050905_bg.jpg

STAR WARS.com (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/news20050905.html) ;)

Can't wait until this DVD comes out. I know it's going to be short, but it's still my favorite part of the Clone Wars.

[k18]

Are they going to continue with the Clone Wars cartoon or is it over?

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I believe they're starting a whole new cartoon series as well as the live action series.

I don't think it'll be Clone Wars related, but I can't give you a definte answer on that until we see more information on it.

[k18]

thanks LLM. I hope the cartoon will be about what Obi-Wan did in between episodes 3 and 4. I heard the live action show would be about Bobba Fett? I'm not sure about that, just something I heard.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

There have been countless rumors. I've lost track of them myself, but all I know is it is Prequel related.

Obi-Wan wise, I don't know but I would love to see that tackled at some point or at least if possible the factions of any surviving Jedi Knights.

[tiger17]

The volume two Clone Wars is actually the thing I've been anticipating the most. In volume one the ARc troopers ROCKED!!!! I didn't get to see the second set when they aired so I don't know if they were featured again in Vol. 2 . Anybody remember if they made an appearance?

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

They're back as far as I can remember. I missed parts myself, but the stand out moments are the moments where the Jedis deal with the Emperor...Palpatine being stolen from Corcusant.

[tiger17]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
There have been countless rumors. I've lost track of them myself, but all I know is it is Prequel related.

Obi-Wan wise, I don't know but I would love to see that tackled at some point or at least if possible the factions of any surviving Jedi Knights.

I'd like to see a glimpse of the Emperor and Vader consolidating the empire while the Rebellion takes root.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Maybe we'll get both.

[snaps]

Originally posted by tiger17
The volume two Clone Wars is actually the thing I've been anticipating the most. In volume one the ARc troopers ROCKED!!!! I didn't get to see the second set when they aired so I don't know if they were featured again in Vol. 2 . Anybody remember if they made an appearance?



missed the second part as well when it aired and the way they aired was a bit crap .....
when i got my part one it was much better watching them without all the breaks

[Summers]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
There have been countless rumors. I've lost track of them myself, but all I know is it is Prequel related.
.

I wish it was post-RoTJ :(.

[j03superbat]

^ I don't think it be right to do anything post-ROTJ related without including Luke, Leia, and Han, but the actors are oooooooold.

Whereas after the prequels, you know where all the major players are. Vader's conquering the universe, Obi-Wan is in hiding, and Luke's potty-training. You've got room to focus on minor characters, which sounds pretty good to me. We'll get a chance to see - on film (well, T.V.) - more of the vast Star Wars Universe. Here's hoping the live-action series sees the light of day.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Would as well, but of course I guess Lucas just wants to focus on the current generation of stuff (Prequels lol).

[Summers]

Originally posted by j03superbat
^ I don't think it be right to do anything post-ROTJ related without including Luke, Leia, and Han, but the actors are oooooooold.


They can do cameos :). What I want to see is Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo along with rest of the New Jedi Order. I'm kinda prequel out :(. Don't get me wrong it would be neat seeiing the Skywalker kids little, but the rumor I seen is this tv series maybe dealing with the time way even before Anakin's birth :eek:.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I guess Lucas just wants to focus on the current generation of stuff (Prequels lol).
Nothing wrong with that, IMO. If he does make his T.V. show and he gets to show what happens between Episodes III and IV, then he can get Ewan McGregor to do a cameo for one of the episodes if he ever desires because Ewan's got years before he doesn't look the part anymore (if that ever even happens...).

The best time to do post-ROTJ stuff would have been within ten years after ROTJ, as far as I'm concerned.

I do hope the T.V. show doesn't focus on the Jedi. I like the Jedi. There's no doubt that the Jedi are cool. But we've got comics, novels, movies, video games, and cartoons about the Jedi and we're running out of stuff about smugglers and intergalactic criminals - the mobsters with blaster, so to speak. They've always been my favorite part of Star Wars.


Originally posted by Summers
What I want to see is Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo along with rest of the New Jedi Order. I'm kinda prequel out :(. Don't get me wrong it would be neat seeiing the Skywalker kids little, but the rumor I seen is this tv series maybe dealing with the time way even before Anakin's birth :eek:.
I wouldn't really mind seeing that, but that's an even more Jedi-intense era of the galaxy and, as aforementioned, I'm kind of "bored" with them. I think it was some guy at IGN who said, the Jedi were cool in the OT because they were the rogues. In the prequels, they were the cops.

Also, I have great respect for George Lucas. So many people are disappointed with him and claim that he sold out on fans, but he came up with the idea for Star Wars in the first place (and made billions on it). He deserves respect for that.

At the same time, there are dozens of talented creators that work on the Star Wars EU. Lucas did not create Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo. They're not part of his vision. But he's supposed to be heavily involved with the T.V. show and I don't want to see characters from the EU handled by someone who didn't intend for them to exist. He allowed it, yes, but he wouldn't know first-hand how to handle the characters.

So if Lucas is going to be in charge, I'd want to see him do what he always intended to do, without stepping on the EU's toes.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Well pos-RotJ seems just as likely in mind as well. Just because our focus falls on the Prequel related material, doesn't mean they can't go either way. We really don't have to have Luke, Han or Leia to move the series forward.

Exploration is the key in my mind.

[k18]

I really hope they do some post RoTS stuff in between episodes 3 and 4. Maybe feature Obi-Wan adventures or how the the dark side grew and the reaction to everything in RoTS. Or make it a Luke story when he is young, although would be kind of boring because he's just a kid and not a Jedi yet. I think they should do some Vader and Palpatine stuff too.

[Summers]

Originally posted by j03superbat

Also, I have great respect for George Lucas. So many people are disappointed with him and claim that he sold out on fans, but he came up with the idea for Star Wars in the first place (and made billions on it). He deserves respect for that.

At the same time, there are dozens of talented creators that work on the Star Wars EU. Lucas did not create Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo. They're not part of his vision. But he's supposed to be heavily involved with the T.V. show and I don't want to see characters from the EU handled by someone who didn't intend for them to exist. He allowed it, yes, but he wouldn't know first-hand how to handle the characters.

So if Lucas is going to be in charge, I'd want to see him do what he always intended to do, without stepping on the EU's toes.

I have respect for GL, but well I don't like when creators go back there words and stomp on the original fanbase that helped make who he is. I have more respect for Lucas than AlMiles which I have no respect for.

Good point :).

Lucas already stepped on the EU toes by altering it with the prequels. The damage has already been done way back in EP1.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Well pos-RotJ seems just as likely in mind as well. Just because our focus falls on the Prequel related material, doesn't mean they can't go either way. We really don't have to have Luke, Han or Leia to move the series forward.

Exploration is the key in my mind.

Exactly. There is more to story people do not know about.

I love young Obi-Wan, but it just seems we are just re-trending on territory we basically already know the gist of.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by k18
I really hope they do some post RoTS stuff in between episodes 3 and 4. Maybe feature Obi-Wan adventures or how the the dark side grew and the reaction to everything in RoTS. Or make it a Luke story when he is young, although would be kind of boring because he's just a kid and not a Jedi yet. I think they should do some Vader and Palpatine stuff too.

The Vader and Palpatine stuff would be interesting.

I'd like to see more of the galaxy and the impact from post-RotJ. I know the books cover it but we've never seen anything beyond that plus it always focuses on the main characters.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Exploration is the key in my mind.
But that's why we have the EU. There's such a fountain of stuff (novels and comics) that takes place after RotJ and maybe the 50+ years after RotJ haven't been completely documented but to me, the 20 years between Episodes III and IV are an almost complete void. Except for a few out-of-canon Star Wars Tales stories and Han Solo/Lando Calrissian books, almost nothing has been written down about what happened because everyone just assumed what happened.

The T.V. series can explore that time period. Maybe take place 10 years after RotS to distance itself from the prequels and get a little closer to the OT. I'd love to see the formation of the Rebellion; that great victory mentioned in the opening crawl of A New Hope; maybe see how Wookies had to survive from Trandoshans. Boba Fett might be cool (but not while he's a teenager) and seeing Bounty Hunters at work is a definite must-see. Characters like Obi-Wan, Han, and Lando probably wouldn't be on the show anyway, as stated by Lucas in one of the numerous interviews.

Originally posted by Summers
Lucas already stepped on the EU toes by altering it with the prequels. The damage has already been done way back in EP1.
The damage wasn't that bad. At least Lucas used the name 'Coruscant'. :\ But I know it did screw up a lot of novels that talked about the Pre-Empire days like they were 50 years ago as opposed to 20.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I'm all for Boba Fett. Just hope they don't pull a Jango Fett storyline like the game.

[k18]

The novels weren't from Lucas, were they? If lucas had nothing to do with the novels then I don't see anything wrong with the prequels. He didn't mess the saga up too much.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Lucas approved all the novels Post-RotJ. He's pretty tight knit with his properties before approving them.

[Summers]

It sounds nice what you are saying j03superbat. I truly does, and I thought of those possibilties. I just well as a fan I just want to go beyond that is all. I'll watch the show either way lol.

The only rumor I'm hearing is that it might concentrate on before Anakin was even born. Yoda I know is going to be used.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Yoda is defintely a plus in my mind!

[Summers]

Originally posted by k18
The novels weren't from Lucas, were they? If lucas had nothing to do with the novels then I don't see anything wrong with the prequels. He didn't mess the saga up too much.

He messed up quite of deal especially on Luke's place in the universe thanks to his prequels. He contradicted himself royally.

[k18]

Well maybe he wanted this to be his envision rather than from the novels. He technically didn't work on the novels himself, he just approved them. So maybe all along he had a different take than what the novels said and decided to go ahead with his envision. Whatever came from the prequels, doesn't make the novels any less credible. I think the prequels just add more to the story.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Also there are stories that cover the path of Boba Fett already (almost forgot about them myself):

Book 1 --
http://www.theforce.net/books/reviews/r_bobafett-1.asp

and

Book 6 --

http://www.theforce.net/books/reviews/r_bobafett-6.asp

Explains everything that leads up to the Clone Wars and Boba reappears in Book 2 of the Last Jedi.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Summers
The only rumor I'm hearing is that it might concentrate on before Anakin was even born. Yoda I know is going to be used.
I didn't hear that one. I know you mentioned it a while back, but I didn't take much notice. :o

There's more than one rumor referring to what the show will actually be about. The rumor I heard said that it would take place some time post-RotS and none of the major characters from either trilogies would show up and the show would focus completely on original, "minor" characters. I don't know if that meant it would focus on characters with a very low place in the galaxy (like a new set of droids akin to Threepio and Artoo) or would focus on different sets of characters every season.

If the show took place before Anakin's birth, I definitely would watch, especially if it focuses on Yoda. Was he always that short or did he shrink? :\

[Summers]

Originally posted by k18
Well maybe he wanted this to be his envision rather than from the novels. He technically didn't work on the novels himself, he just approved them. So maybe all along he had a different take than what the novels said and decided to go ahead with his envision. Whatever came from the prequels, doesn't make the novels any less credible. I think the prequels just add more to the story.

The novels came from his vision of the originals. Before the prequels were even mentioned he has been quoted to say there would only be three movies. Just one story is all. The novels are from his original work.

The prequels do make some things less credible. Most noteble Luke. Prequels altered the foundation.

We are up against Originals GL and prequel GL.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Also there are stories that cover the path of Boba Fett already (almost forgot about them myself):

Book 1 --
http://www.theforce.net/books/reviews/r_bobafett-1.asp

and

Book 6 --

http://www.theforce.net/books/reviews/r_bobafett-6.asp

Explains everything that leads up to the Clone Wars and Boba reappears in Book 2 of the Last Jedi.

sweetie, I love when you think on your feet so quickly on research :D.


Originally posted by j03superbat
I didn't hear that one. I know you mentioned it a while back, but I didn't take much notice. :o

There's more than one rumor referring to what the show will actually be about. The rumor I heard said that it would take place some time post-RotS and none of the major characters from either trilogies would show up and the show would focus completely on original, "minor" characters. I don't know if that meant it would focus on characters with a very low place in the galaxy (like a new set of droids akin to Threepio and Artoo) or would focus on different sets of characters every season.

If the show took place before Anakin's birth, I definitely would watch, especially if it focuses on Yoda. Was he always that short or did he shrink? :\

I see how it is :p.......j/k lol.

Oh, yea. I just hear more people bring of up that one :confused:. The "minor" characters I did hear. They could do Captain Attilas for a couple of episodes since he has ownership of droids. To show the Rebellion being even more formed.

Since Yoda is about 900 years old GL can use him a lot :lol:. It's his species :). Funny, how we never see more of his kind in the movies lol.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by k18
The novels weren't from Lucas, were they? If lucas had nothing to do with the novels then I don't see anything wrong with the prequels. He didn't mess the saga up too much.

Lucas approved all the novels . And also most of The EU books as well.

Lucas mess up on the Prequels Big time, and that is why many fans still think the Original Trilogy is The Best part of the Saga as a Whole.

Even with The little CGI the OT had. The Story was better, The Writting/dialogue was better written. The Love chemistry between Han & Leia was more believeable than Anakin & Padme. Luke was more of a role model for Kids, than Anakin. Han Solo was a smart ass , their was no smart ass in The PT etc.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

If my memory serves correct these days, he has various people from his company approve the material in all forms. But LucasFilm maintains contact with everything.

Lucas made the choice to allow for continuity issues when it comes down to the Prequels. I've had morer of an issue with the technology not being explained in the Prequels as opposed to why there not in the Classics.

The Prequels at times felt like they were marketing tools for toys more than anything.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Has anybody watched any of the fan films for SW that connect the films or tie the stories together? There's one on there with Mara Jade and how she ends up falling prey to the Emperor's hand.

[PETER WEST]

After watching The entire Saga Saturday with my friends. One of Them pointed out that The Binary Sunset scene at the end of (ROTS). That the Yellow sun rising was (Luke Skywalker) and The Red Sun setting was (Anakin Skywalker). I thought that was an interesting way of look at The Binary Sunset .

Here is The Binary Sunset From ROTS to ANH
http://img178.echo.cx/img178/2783/swepivanhbinarysunset1905sp.gif