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LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 10:40 PM
Just in time for the Thanksgiving Holiday and let us not forget Christmas season.

Summers
07-29-2005, 10:41 PM
Just in time. I think that is what two or three weeks after Batman Begins comes out on dvd. Oh, my dvd player is going to be played a lot this winter :). All now is to wait to see when F4 comes out.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 10:50 PM
They'll all be here before we know it.

Just expect Lucas to double-dip the Prequel Trilogy and the Entire Series.

Summers
07-29-2005, 10:51 PM
Indeed, but I still wont buy it lol. He tweaked the original so much I dont want it. I'm happy with my VHS tapes because Haydan's head isnt pasted on in the last scene of ROTJ.

sdogg1m
07-29-2005, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Indeed, but I still wont buy it lol. He tweaked the original so much I dont want it. I'm happy with my VHS tapes because Haydan's head isnt pasted on in the last scene of ROTJ.

LOL! I knew this was going to happen so I waited on buying any of the Star Wars episodes on DVD or VHS (except for Ep. 1). Now I will be able to buy all six in a box set. Although there were times I was tempted to buy the OT on DVD.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 11:03 PM
I've got the Special Editions, the DVD releases and that's it. Once it's out I'm done unless on down the road when I have kids and they beg me to get it for them.

Episode Three and the last edition of the CLONE WARS will be enough to tide me over until we get the TV series.

Summers
07-29-2005, 11:10 PM
From what I heard we have a loooooonnnnnngggggg wait for the tv series lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 11:11 PM
It couldn't be as long as the movies.

Summers
07-29-2005, 11:16 PM
According to Entertainment Weekly Lucas says 2008, and that's a tentative date. IMO That's a long wait lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 11:20 PM
Seems pretty short on my studio based mind especially after waiting as long as we did for Phantom Menace.

Summers
07-29-2005, 11:25 PM
With the Phantom Menace that came about longer for a completely different reason. A lot came from not have the technology he wanted to use(he had to wait), and other variables. It was a whole different ball park when he was trying to get EP1 off the ground as compared to the tv series.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 11:28 PM
I remember him talking about the new STAR WARS technology being built and used during the making of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles some years back. Brought a smile to my face, still does hearing Lucas talk about it.

Summers
07-29-2005, 11:31 PM
I loved that show :D.

But yea. It wasnt until his company helped make JURASSIC PARK is when things really started to get rolling.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 11:41 PM
Young Indy will hit DVD soon. Lucas just hasn't declared when.

Summers
07-29-2005, 11:47 PM
If he is going to tweak it, then I kinda dont want the show too lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
07-29-2005, 11:50 PM
He's just tweaking the suppose History Background Feature, that he's been wanting to have on the DVD for a long time. They never actually finished releasing the VHS chapters of Young Indy, either.

tiger17
07-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
... the last edition of the CLONE WARS ...


Do you know when that hits dvd? I've been trying to find the release date.

snaps
07-30-2005, 10:38 AM
.......thanks for the release date of episode 3....had today a newsletter from play.com with pre-order releases on it but with no release dates .......so is it november yet???????

Summers
07-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Sure :).

I cant wait to see The Duel again. I love the music, and the speed of the lightsabers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/3duel0zx.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/3anakinvsobiwan7hy.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/3duel200x1138dx.gif

PETER WEST
07-30-2005, 04:28 PM
I'M BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tiger17
07-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Welcome back. Did you bring any info on the release date for Clone Wars Vol. 2 with you?

PETER WEST
07-30-2005, 04:46 PM
And as for my first order of business (Is to show
you The ROTS cover.)

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/video/img/20050725_2_bg.jpg
http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/video/img/20050725_1_bg.jpg

The release date of episode 3 is Nov 1.


Originally posted by tiger17
Welcome back. Did you bring any info on the release date for Clone Wars Vol. 2 with you?

From What I heard, It's supposed to be the same day as ROTS. nov 1

tiger17
07-30-2005, 04:47 PM
That's SWEET!!!!......but what of Clone Wars Vol. 2? WHAT OF VOL. 2, MAN??!!

PETER WEST
07-30-2005, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by tiger17
That's SWEET!!!!......but what of Clone Wars Vol. 2? WHAT OF VOL. 2, MAN??!!

I don't know anything official yet, Lucas hasn't released any news on it yet. but their are Rumors one says Nov 1 with ROTS, another says Dec 6.

Well just have to wait and see.

tiger17
07-30-2005, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
From What I heard, It's supposed to be the same day as ROTS. nov 1

Cool. Thanks.:) I can let my roommate by ROTS and I'll just buy the Clone Wars...I already have the first set and it rocked.

PETER WEST
07-30-2005, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by tiger17
Cool. Thanks.:) I can let my roommate by ROTS and I'll just buy the Clone Wars...I already have the first set and it rocked.

Hold on
It's not official date yet, It's a Rumored date.

tiger17
07-30-2005, 05:47 PM
I would think that releasing it just prior to ROTS would be a wise marketing move. Not that there will be a lack of fervor but stoking the fire a little never hurts. Of course, it would probably be the equivalent of tossing just one more match onto an already raging inferno.

snaps
07-31-2005, 09:35 AM
:lol: very true

Summers
08-01-2005, 01:13 AM
Some SW gifs:
EP1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/youngobi.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/theforce.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/podracing.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/podrace_ani.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/maul.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/bigsword.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/cool.gif

EP3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/3duel200x1138dx.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/3duel0zx.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/3anakinvsobiwan7hy.gif

EP4
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/aniGif.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/oneshot.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/ds.gif

EP5
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/oops.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/alright.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/darthvsluke.gif

EP6
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/ouch.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/rotj-duel.gif

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-01-2005, 01:16 AM
As always Mel, you never seem to stop bringing in all the goodies.

Summers
08-01-2005, 01:18 AM
:D

Goodies are all pretty just for you guys :). Plus I just love those scenes.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-01-2005, 01:22 AM
Love the episode 3 ones. My favorite chapter just didn't like how Padme died -- seemed rather forced.

Summers
08-01-2005, 01:26 AM
yea, they are my favorite as well. Ah, heck many of those are. Yoda's face is funny before he falls :lol:.

I agree on Padme, in fact, that's the only thing I did not like in ROTS.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-01-2005, 01:30 AM
You have to wonder what Lucas was thinking.

I just didn't buy the broken heart leads to death-vibe. Seemed completely out of character for Padme.

Summers
08-01-2005, 01:33 AM
It did. I was kinda hoping she would die from something physical because IMO she would want to live for her children. When its physical there is nothing you can do.

There was a gif I found where Ani force grips her, but I didnt save it because that scene was hard to watch IMO. I wanted to have fun SW gif post where you can just smile :D.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-01-2005, 01:38 AM
There was a part of me that wanted to believe that force grip was enough to kill her, but since she had steady dialogue the answer was a definte no. Just because of that scene alone, I felt like her death lost impact and it seemed like she was just reading off names as the kids were born.

Snake_Corda
08-01-2005, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Summers
:D

Goodies are all pretty just for you guys :). Plus I just love those scenes.

Hehe...that just made my morning so much better :D:D

Thank you Mel!

Summers
08-01-2005, 10:09 AM
:D Your welcome.

I just like to stare at them :eek: :D

Snake_Corda
08-01-2005, 10:11 AM
I'll end up staring at them like those 3D paintings lol.

DarkClone
08-01-2005, 01:04 PM
I have KOTOR 1 and 2 for sale, a long with Jedi Knights, Jedi Academy. All were only played once. Great games! But I need money now that I'm headed back to college for my sophomore year . . .

pm me if interested

oh yeah, star wars owns!

Summers
08-01-2005, 01:27 PM
Jedi Academy is that the one where Luke is training you?

PETER WEST
08-06-2005, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Jedi Academy is that the one where Luke is training you?


Yes.

Shadowknight
08-06-2005, 02:44 PM
Anyone here play Star Wars Galaxies? that game is a very fun MMO. I have to say, im quit addicted to it :p

ImzadiJedi
08-22-2005, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis You have to wonder what Lucas was thinking.

I just didn't buy the broken heart leads to death-vibe. Seemed completely out of character for Padme.

I wondered what Lucas was thinking too. I didn't buy the whole Padme death thing either. Too bad too.

I also find it interesting that Star Wars talk has died off the last few weeks.

tiger17
08-22-2005, 11:53 PM
As we get closer to the DVD release you should see more talk...but for now.....

fatty_acids
08-23-2005, 02:16 AM
when is the release again?:cool:

ImzadiJedi
08-23-2005, 10:08 AM
The last I heard the release for Episode 3 is November 1, 2005. Could change though...

tiger17
08-24-2005, 10:43 AM
What I'm really looking forward to is the release of Clone Wars Vol. 2. I don't know when it is though. Some have told me that it will release at the same time as Ep. III, but they weren't sure. I was hoping it would release sooner.

Summers
08-28-2005, 12:35 AM
Some behind-the-scenes pics from the original and RoTS

RoTS
Hayden vs. Ewan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/a778.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/9bb9.jpg

Look out below!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/45e9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/40f1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/55a3.jpg

Obi vs. Ani
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/8d86.jpg

Exhausted Hayden
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/6856.jpg
EP4
The actual Jabba :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/f1ca.jpg

This one I havent seen
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/b603.jpg

EP5
Mark after taking a break
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/c8f5.jpg

Aww..the SW Trio
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/ba5c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/a37b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/424b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/419c.jpg

Mark's just hanging around :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/54ae.jpg

EP6
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/ce03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/a19f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/14f4.jpg

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 12:40 AM
Love them all, but my favorite has to been Obi and Anakin (Ewan and Hayden). I hope the docs have plently of that footage built in to the upcoming DVD release.

Summers
08-28-2005, 12:43 AM
I have a lot of the practicing of Hayden and Ewan. Oops, I forgot one to put in there lol. I have to go find it again.

Hmm...I love the classics behind the scenes one because those were really hard to find :lol:. It was by luck I found that Mark hanging up down in the Dagobah set lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 12:46 AM
I've seen them in the DVD box set releases -- the last one if I remember correctly in a number of the docs, but beyond that I haven't seen them except for what you've posted.

Summers
08-28-2005, 12:56 AM
The posing ones are easy to find. Plus I didnt buy the DVD box set release of SW since I knew Lucas tweaked things. I dont like having Hayden as Anakin at the end of RoTJ. But I really couldnt find a lot of original behind the scenes.

some more pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/ed48.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/a868.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/a572.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/874c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/191a.jpg

Rest of the behind the scene pics on previous page
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19547&perpage=15&pagenumber=120

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 01:40 AM
Love them all and thanks for posting them.

Summers
08-28-2005, 01:55 AM
Sure :). I posted some new Narnia pictures as well. They are real treat :D.

KJK
08-28-2005, 01:59 AM
Those are cool. Thanks Summers.

j03superbat
08-28-2005, 09:45 AM
I love Star Wars.

ImzadiJedi
08-28-2005, 12:09 PM
Star Wars 4 - 6!

Summers
08-28-2005, 02:02 PM
No prequels?

ImzadiJedi
08-28-2005, 02:15 PM
I thought the action was interesting in the prequels but the story was sadly lacking.

My vote is for episodes 4-6. They came out when I was younger so that may be the reason. It just seemed that the writing and dialouge was better in 4-6 than in 1-3.

Summers
08-28-2005, 02:22 PM
I was just curious :).

The first film I ever saw in the theatres was Return of the Jedi, and I still remember the feeling watching the movie when I was only 3 yrs. old. I love the originals a lot more. There was just so much to them.

The prequels I swear I go back and forth on them all the time. I still can't watch Attack of the Clones :lol:. The Phantom Menace and Revenge of The Sith I enjoyed. I just like the political spectrum of Palapatine and the Jedi. The themes they discussed were nice, but just badly written in areas. I never like CGI Yoda. I miss the puppet one more.

ETA: I'm reading Revenge of the Sith now, and I find the inner turmoil of Anakin was far more portrayed better in the book than the movie. In the movie we saw only a few scenes of his turmoil, but in the book there is so much more since we reading his thoughts.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by j03superbat
I love Star Wars.

Me too.

My favorite

(1) ROTJ - Episode VI

(2) ROTS - Episode III

(3) TESB - Episode V

(4) ANH - Episode IV

(5) TPM - Episode I

(6) ATOC -Episode II

;)


Originally posted by Summers


ETA: I'm reading Revenge of the Sith now, and I find the inner turmoil of Anakin was far more portrayed better in the book than the movie. In the movie we saw only a few scenes of his turmoil, but in the book there is so much more since we reading his thoughts.

See I told you so Jaina, Episode III novel has more Depth to The character, than the movie does.

also here's a pic for ya it (Jaina Solo)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/Jaina.jpg/419px-Jaina.jpg

Summers
08-28-2005, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Me too.

My favorite

(1) ROTJ - Episode VI

(2) ROTS - Episode III

(3) TESB - Episode V

(4) ANH - Episode IV

(5) TPM - Episode I

(6) ATOC -Episode II

;)



See I told you so Jaina, Episode III novel has more Depth to The character, than the movie does.

also here's a pic for ya it (Jaina Solo)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/Jaina.jpg/419px-Jaina.jpg


Whoa, RoTS on your list best ESB :eek:. For me I would put it as third after RoTJ and ESB :lol:.

Well, I never doubted you because IMO the books at time seem so much better depending on the author of course. Reading the thoughts of a character just gives it that juicy center lol.

Oooo...I never saw that book cover. I've spending money on movies and dvds, that I have been neglecting my book collection. Wow, Jaina's hair is really long now. Plus look at her saber :D.

Thanks, Uncle Luke :).

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I was just curious :).

The first film I ever saw in the theatres was Return of the Jedi, and I still remember the feeling watching the movie when I was only 3 yrs. old. I love the originals a lot more. There was just so much to them.

The prequels I swear I go back and forth on them all the time. I still can't watch Attack of the Clones :lol:. The Phantom Menace and Revenge of The Sith I enjoyed. I just like the political spectrum of Palapatine and the Jedi. The themes they discussed were nice, but just badly written in areas. I never like CGI Yoda. I miss the puppet one more.

ETA: I'm reading Revenge of the Sith now, and I find the inner turmoil of Anakin was far more portrayed better in the book than the movie. In the movie we saw only a few scenes of his turmoil, but in the book there is so much more since we reading his thoughts.

Hey Mel, there's another similiarity between us. RotJ was my first SW movie as well.

Summers
08-28-2005, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Hey Mel, there's another similiarity between us. RotJ was my first SW movie as well.

Gee, how many similarities is that now. I'm losing track lol. I guess because its the first one I seen its hard to let go of it personally. It really opened my eyes to the gendre, and I was only three if that is possible :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 08:56 PM
I didn't actually start liking them until I saw the Special Edition cuts. I had free tickets around the time they came out and saw it. It was really an odd experience having fans clap as the opening scroll came up, now, it's just something I'm used to.

I'm just hoping they have SW Marathons at the Independent Theaters in my area.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Whoa, RoTS on your list best ESB :eek:. For me I would put it as third after RoTJ and ESB :lol:.

Well, I never doubted you because IMO the books at time seem so much better depending on the author of course. Reading the thoughts of a character just gives it that juicy center lol.

Oooo...I never saw that book cover. I've spending money on movies and dvds, that I have been neglecting my book collection. Wow, Jaina's hair is really long now. Plus look at her saber :D.

Thanks, Uncle Luke :).

I liked ROTS, because my Father was such a badass jedi, . And seeing How he became DARTH VADER was important to me, Also I got to see my Mother. EBS was an amazing and it will always be my third favorite.

True

Your Welcome Jaina ;)

Summers
08-28-2005, 09:03 PM
Really the special editions is when you started to like them. Before I was even born my dad loved Star Wars, so my older brother and I just got hooked on the movies. We read the books(which my older brother still has half of mine), and buy the soundtracks. Its just one of those things that became part of our household. It drove my nuts, and even moreso now that I passed on the SW tradition to my little sisters.

They finally saw all ANH and ESB. The 15 yr. sister loves ESB the most out of all six. She got kick out of puppet Yoda:
"MINE...MINE!!" wacking R2 with his cane :lol:

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:07 PM
Well, I saw the Special Editions first but ended up hunting down the old VHS copies of the original releases. I only got the original cut for A New Hope, but rented the other two on VHS. I love the original cuts but the Special Editions just added a couple new layers to it with the added scenes plus it was basically building us up for the Prequel Trilogy.

Long time Obi-Wan fan, even though they killed him off in the first.

Summers
08-28-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
I liked ROTS, because my Father was such a badass jedi, . And seeing How he became DARTH VADER was important to me, Also I got to see my Mother. EBS was an amazing and it will always be my third favorite.

True

Your Welcome Jaina ;)

Hmm..having the death of Padme(my grandmother) was the only thing I didn't like in RoTS. I just didn't think it was handled well, and the only reason I put it as number 3 on my list.

I loved reading Jaina's turmoil when she tapped into darkside, and she's says she is afraid she might turn on the path like her grandfather.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Well, I saw the Special Editions first but ended up hunting down the old VHS copies of the original releases. I only got the original cut for A New Hope, but rented the other two on VHS. I love the original cuts but the Special Editions just added a couple new layers to it with the added scenes plus it was basically building us up for the Prequel Trilogy.

Long time Obi-Wan fan, even though they killed him off in the first.

I have the Special Editions VHS, but not the originals. Those were the tapes my sister finally saw all of the movies.

You know what stinks. We see Bail Organa in AoTC and RoTS, but once we get to ANH we never see him again. Then he dies from the Death Star. I liked him lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:15 PM
Okay, Jainia Solo and Luke Skywalker.

Guess, I'll declare myself Obi-Wan. (Couldn't resist. He's the one character I'm the most like.)

Summers
08-28-2005, 09:18 PM
Young hottie Obi-Wan or Old Ben?

Uncle Luke named me Jaina :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:22 PM
I'd say Obi-Wan in Episode Two and Three though I do have personality traits of the older Obi-Wan hence the teaching lol.

Not trying to cause havoc with the name declaration or anything, just want to join in the fun.

I mean I'm also Riley lol :D

Summers
08-28-2005, 09:32 PM
Oooo..Ewan's Obi :D. Don't get me wrong I love Old Ben, but Obi-Wan is the reason I loved RoTS a lot as well.

Nah, no havoc :lol:. We won't cut you down with our hatred because that leads to the darkside lol.

Exactly, like I'm Buffy lol. It's fun have name associations sometimes online lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:36 PM
I like Ewan's take. Starting out he was a bit rough since he was really giving his own take to the character, but I think as we went deeper into the Prequel Trilogy we really saw him evolve into the older Ben of the series that we fans know and love.

I look for any novel focusing on him. I couldn't get into the ones inbetween the movies, but some of the comics have been really great at dealing with his character. I'm tempted to write fan fiction on down the road focusing on him.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis

Long time Obi-Wan fan, even though they killed him off in the first.

I'm an Obi-Wan fan too, (not as much as Luke Skywalker, He will always be my Number #1 favorite.)

Oh BTW, Obi-Wan wasn't killed off, He became One with the force, He disappeared before Vader's Lightsaber touch him
(read it in the ANH novel.);)


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Okay, Jainia Solo and Luke Skywalker.

Guess, I'll declare myself Obi-Wan. (Couldn't resist. He's the one character I'm the most like.)

I'm Luke

Great Choice, One Question does that mean I can call you Ben ?


Originally posted by Summers
Young hottie Obi-Wan or Old Ben?

Uncle Luke named me Jaina :lol:.


Women :rolleyes:

so did your Mother (Disco) aka Princess Leia Skywalker Organa Solo & Father (UL)aka Han Solo . :lol:

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:41 PM
Feel free to call me, Ben :D

At one time, I did have the novels but a friend of mine never returned them. At some point I'll find them again but to the most part my collection is still intact. I have a number of the Kevin J. Anderson novels and have mainly Obi-Wan figures. Bought the final stage Darth Vader and Clone Wars DVD sets.

Also a fan of Jango and Boba Fett.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Feel free to call me, Ben :D



Awesome, Thanks Ben ;) :D

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:46 PM
Out of coursity, has anyone heard about Dark Horse's new releases since the Series is complete (at least from the films perspective)?

Summers
08-28-2005, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I like Ewan's take. Starting out he was a bit rough since he was really giving his own take to the character, but I think as we went deeper into the Prequel Trilogy we really saw him evolve into the older Ben of the series that we fans know and love.

I look for any novel focusing on him. I couldn't get into the ones inbetween the movies, but some of the comics have been really great at dealing with his character. I'm tempted to write fan fiction on down the road focusing on him.

What I noticed a lot in RoTS is that Ewan had the same mannerisms Alec had in ANH. Like when he rubs his beard before fighting General Grevious(sp?). I was like that was Old Ben does!!! You ca tell Ewan watch Alec's take on Obi.

I haven't read the inbetween movies myself. I have the movie novels, but I mostly concentrate on the novels post-RoTJ.


Originally posted by PETER WEST
I'm an Obi-Wan fan too, (not as much as Luke Skywalker, He will always be my Number #1 favorite.)

Oh BTW, Obi-Wan wasn't killed off, He became One with the force, He disappeared before Vader's Lightsaber touch him
(read it in the ANH novel.);)

Women :rolleyes:

so did your Mother (Disco) aka Princess Leia Skywalker Organa Solo & Father (UL)aka Han Solo . :lol:

See, when I was little I didn't think Obi was dead because we heard him talk to Luke. Then we get the answer in RoTS. I thought that was good flow of continuity there.

I have the big book that has ANH, ESB, and RoTJ. Its one thick paperback lol.

:rotfl: Well, look at the man :lol:.

Wait, do call Derek "Ben" too or something else. I don't recall Jaina ever meeting Obi-Wan unless its in a novel I didnt read yet.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 09:53 PM
I took a couple of seconds and dug around Dark Horse's site. They've released four new titles:

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse/index_images/zones/starwars/kotor.jpg

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse/index_images/zones/starwars/rebellion.jpg

"Jeremy Barlow, Associate Editor
Dark Horse and Star Wars in 2006

Updated 07/15/2005

So you camped out in line to be the first to see Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, you've played the video game, bought the action figures, devoured the comics adaptation, and now that the excitement of witnessing the completion of the Star Wars cinematic cycle has subsided you're left with nagging fear that you've reached the end of the line. With the last film wrapped, you're worried May 2005 marked the end of Star Wars, right? Not quite!

It's no secret that Dark Horse publishes a steady stream of top-notch Star Wars comic-books month in and month out. The last few years have seen our ongoing series Rebublic (set in the prequel era, chronically events prior to, during, and just after Episode III), Empire (focusing on the Original Trilogy era), and Tales (covering everything from the Old Republic era to the New Jedi Order) rise to prominence and reach an unparalleled level of creative q. . ."

Summers
08-28-2005, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Feel free to call me, Ben :D

At one time, I did have the novels but a friend of mine never returned them. At some point I'll find them again but to the most part my collection is still intact. I have a number of the Kevin J. Anderson novels and have mainly Obi-Wan figures. Bought the final stage Darth Vader and Clone Wars DVD sets.

Also a fan of Jango and Boba Fett.

I think your friend and my older brother teamed up on the taking of the novels :lol:.

I have a lot of Kevin J. Anderson novels as well as Timothy Zahn as well. I mostly collect the 12" inch SW dolls. I have all Obi-Wan dolls from every film except RoTS. I dont know think they made a 12" Obi-Wan doll from RoTS did they?

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Summers
What I noticed a lot in RoTS is that Ewan had the same mannerisms Alec had in ANH. Like when he rubs his beard before fighting General Grevious(sp?). I was like that was Old Ben does!!! You ca tell Ewan watch Alec's take on Obi.

I haven't read the inbetween movies myself. I have the movie novels, but I mostly concentrate on the novels post-RoTJ.



See, when I was little I didn't think Obi was dead because we heard him talk to Luke. Then we get the answer in RoTS. I thought that was good flow of continuity there.

I have the big book that has ANH, ESB, and RoTJ. Its one thick paperback lol.

:rotfl: Well, look at the man :lol:.

Wait, do call Derek "Ben" too or something else. I don't recall Jaina ever meeting Obi-Wan unless its in a novel I didnt read yet.

That can be arranged lol.


Originally posted by Summers
I think your friend and my older brother teamed up on the taking of the novels :lol:.

I have a lot of Kevin J. Anderson novels as well as Timothy Zahn as well. I mostly collect the 12" inch SW dolls. I have all Obi-Wan dolls from every film except RoTS. I dont know think they made a 12" Obi-Wan doll from RoTS did they?

Of all the SW novels I have my favorite has to be SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. I played the game, didn't really like it, but I loved the novel, despite the fact that Dash was basically Han on steroids.

Here's a Yoda wallpaper for everyone:

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse/downloads/desktops/swjedi2/swjedi2_lg.jpg

Summers
08-28-2005, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis

Of all the SW novels I have my favorite has to be SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. I played the game, didn't really like it, but I loved the novel, despite the fact that Dash was basically Han on steroids.

Here's a Yoda wallpaper for everyone:

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse/downloads/desktops/swjedi2/swjedi2_lg.jpg

Han on steroids :lol:. I finished that game, but it was hard to control Dash sometimes. Beating Slave 1 level was the worst. I think I finished it by pure luck.

Personally, I love the old SuperStar Wars games on NES. Now those were fun, and the characters even had the clothes apporiate :D.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:05 PM
I actually still have those with their books. I have no idea what happened to the boxes, but I had every intent to keep them.

My cousins are obessessively playing SuperStar Wars and I swear it feels like I'm watching a train wreck. Luke gets attacked by every creature and dies within five minutes. It kills me since I use to be able to beat the game.

Shinzon2004
08-28-2005, 10:06 PM
But I have a question about Shadows of the Empire.Ist it canon,to the Star Wars saga or just a novel??

What if they could make a movie about Shadows of the Empire???

I havent read the book is it any good?

Does it really expands the saga??????

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I took a couple of seconds and dug around Dark Horse's site. They've released four new titles:

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse/index_images/zones/starwars/kotor.jpg

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse/index_images/zones/starwars/rebellion.jpg

"Jeremy Barlow, Associate Editor
Dark Horse and Star Wars in 2006

Updated 07/15/2005

So you camped out in line to be the first to see Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, you've played the video game, bought the action figures, devoured the comics adaptation, and now that the excitement of witnessing the completion of the Star Wars cinematic cycle has subsided you're left with nagging fear that you've reached the end of the line. With the last film wrapped, you're worried May 2005 marked the end of Star Wars, right? Not quite!

It's no secret that Dark Horse publishes a steady stream of top-notch Star Wars comic-books month in and month out. The last few years have seen our ongoing series Rebublic (set in the prequel era, chronically events prior to, during, and just after Episode III), Empire (focusing on the Original Trilogy era), and Tales (covering everything from the Old Republic era to the New Jedi Order) rise to prominence and reach an unparalleled level of creative q. . ."

Wow Ben, that's impressive stuff.:eek: ;)

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:08 PM
It's in the SW fiction timeline and Lucas approves every novel, so offically I think it's cannon.

It's a strong stoy with a new foe, that expands on what happens between Empire and Jedi. We really find out how Luke makes his lightsaber, how the group tries to save Han and fails, how Chewbecca ends up with that weird haircut in RotJ and really get a stronger sense of the relationship. In fact, it leads right up to the first few minutes of RotJ.

It's my all time favorite read and there's a comic book adaptation out there as well. A kid's novel, too, now that I thin kof it.

Summers
08-28-2005, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis

My cousins are obessessively playing SuperStar Wars and I swear it feels like I'm watching a train wreck. Luke gets attacked by every creature and dies within five minutes. It kills me since I use to be able to beat the game.

:lol: I know its like do the Jedi Jump with the lightsaber is what I would always nag to my friend. But nope. He didnt listen, and kept on dying lol.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
It's in the SW fiction timeline and Lucas approves every novel, so offically I think it's cannon.

It's a strong stoy with a new foe, that expands on what happens between Empire and Jedi. We really find out how Luke makes his lightsaber, how the group tries to save Han and fails, how Chewbecca ends up with that weird haircut in RotJ and really get a stronger sense of the relationship. In fact, it leads right up to the first few minutes of RotJ.

It's my all time favorite read and there's a comic book adaptation out there as well. A kid's novel, too, now that I thin kof it.

Sums it up. The lightsaber making was interesting.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:14 PM
At least in Super RotJ you could change characters more frequently. I was constantly playing as Han or Chewie when they were available.

They've also got that game and all I can do is cover my eyes and cringe.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Summers
[B]What I noticed a lot in RoTS is that Ewan had the same mannerisms Alec had in ANH. Like when he rubs his beard before fighting General Grevious(sp?). I was like that was Old Ben does!!! You ca tell Ewan watch Alec's take on Obi.

Yeah I totally agree .





See, when I was little I didn't think Obi was dead because we heard him talk to Luke. Then we get the answer in RoTS. I thought that was good flow of continuity there.

Yes it was.




:rotfl: Well, look at the man :lol:.

What's that suppose to mean ?


Wait, do call Derek "Ben" too or something else. I don't recall Jaina ever meeting Obi-Wan unless its in a novel I didnt read yet.

I guess since Luke is the only one that called Obi-Wan / Ben. You should call him Obi-Wan like everyone else. It's up to you Jaina ;)

Summers
08-28-2005, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
At least in Super RotJ you could change characters more frequently. I was constantly playing as Han or Chewie when they were available.

They've also got that game and all I can do is cover my eyes and cringe.

RoTJ was awesome. I would always try to be either Luke or Han. I loved Han's blaster, and I have always been good with the lightsabers.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
[B]


Of all the SW novels I have my favorite has to be SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. I played the game, didn't really like it, but I loved the novel, despite the fact that Dash was basically Han on steroids.

Here's a Yoda wallpaper for everyone:




SOTE was a good novel, But it doesn't Beat, (The Last commanded ) or ( Dark Forces)

Nice Yoda wallpaper.

Summers
08-28-2005, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST

What's that suppose to mean ?

I guess since Luke is the only one that called Obi-Wan / Ben. You should call him Obi-Wan like everyone else. It's up to you Jaina ;)

"Look at the man" is sometimes used by girls when a guy is very, very hot :D.

true.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:25 PM
Another new fact learned on Kryptonsite. :)

Summers
08-28-2005, 10:26 PM
:rotfl:

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:29 PM
Now, if only we could learn to use the Force.

PETER WEST
08-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Summers
"Look at the man" is sometimes used by girls when a guy is very, very hot :D.



Oh, ok. ;)


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Another new fact learned on Kryptonsite. :)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:43 PM
Here's a little known fact. Back in the day when Super RotJ was released, the designers replicated the style of that game for The Super Indiana Jones Trilogy game.

From what I've seen all they did was redesign the backgrounds and main character - used the Han design but changed its clothing. Other than that the engine was very much the same.

Summers
08-28-2005, 10:47 PM
I actually knew assumed that :lol:. Because they do have similar engines, and how they moved. Plus Han was Indy anyways plus Lucas and Spielberg did Indy. I just always assumed that connection never thought I was right until now.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-28-2005, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I'm an Indiana Jones junkie so I thought I would mention it.

::Cringes:: Thinking about Haley Joel Osment as a young Indiana Jones. ::Cringes again at the thought for effect::

Just hope we get the new series of SW on TV at some point. Doesn't have to be rushed but as long as we get strong stories and characters.

PETER WEST
08-29-2005, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by TIG
Hey How come Luke got married, I thought emotional attachment was Forbidden for a Jedi ? :confused:

Under The Old Jedi Order, Yes it was Forbidden, However When Luke became a Jedi Master and made new Jedi Order, he altered the Jedi ways and traditions, allowing emotional attachments, possessions, and more contact with family and friends.

Summers
08-29-2005, 09:42 PM
Here's a question. Now this could be considered an interpretative question, well at least I think it is lol.

Are the Sith evil? I mean their philsophical outlook is different then the Jedi, but are they truly evil. The Sith and Jedi have many similarities that tie into each other, but are they evil. Afterall The Old Jedi Order liked it or not liked the power they had, and were afraid by any new challenge that would take it away. The thing powerful enough to do that are the Sith.

So the questions is are the Sith evil? Are the Jedi no different than the Sith?

See, RoTS really brought a new perspective on the Jedi itself.

ImzadiJedi
08-29-2005, 09:45 PM
Also Yoda told Luke to pass on what he had learned. He could pass on what he learned to Leia, her children and his own children. I think it is logical that Yoda was also referring to Luke getting married and having children.

Also the whole not getting married thing was in the prequels and that doesn't count. (Just kidding with those of you who really liked the prequels).

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 09:47 PM
I'm not exactly a Rhode's scholar when it comes down to this but I think the Sith and Jedi were once a part of a common faction seeking the same thing more or less until they had a divergence of ideas and decided to seperate or were forced into their own seperation. This divergence of ideas also allowed them to continue down seperate paths.

The Jedi's wiped out the biggest portion of the Sith when it came down to combat in the later years and the Sith hid themselves, but back to the point. I think it really comes down to perception - the Sith worshipped chaos but when it comes down to the basis of it the two groups are devoted to opposite causes and we have seen Jedi's join the Sith and the Sith join the Jedi's. So I think it's really a mixed bag when it comes down to it. They are no more "evil" than anyone else, but their goal according to Yoda is to initiate it, but what is not to say that they join sides with the Jedi again?

Summers
08-29-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by ImzadiJedi
Also Yoda told Luke to pass on what he had learned. He could pass on what he learned to Leia, her children and his own children. I think it is logical that Yoda was also referring to Luke getting married and having children.

Also the whole not getting married thing was in the prequels and that doesn't count. (Just kidding with those of you who really liked the prequels).

Luke did pass it down to Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin. One day his son Ben. Plus Leia herself married, and had children. She may not have did all the Jedi training Luke did, but her Force capablities are definitely in her.

True...True. I don't know the whole "The Chosen One" came out of no where. I was like WTH did the Chosen One come from while watching The Phantom Menace :lol:.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I'm not exactly a Rhode's scholar when it comes down to this but I think the Sith and Jedi were once a part of a common faction seeking the same thing more or less until they had a divergence of ideas and decided to seperate or were forced into their own seperation. This divergence of ideas also allowed them to continue down seperate paths.

The Jedi's wiped out the biggest portion of the Sith when it came down to combat in the later years and the Sith hid themselves, but back to the point. I think it really comes down to perception - the Sith worshipped chaos but when it comes down to the basis of it the two groups are devoted to opposite causes and we have seen Jedi's join the Sith and the Sith join the Jedi's. So I think it's really a mixed bag when it comes down to it. They are no more "evil" than anyone else, but their goal according to Yoda is to initiate it, but what is not to say that they join sides with the Jedi again?

Not an easy question is it :lol:.

I was just thinking about it, and there really is a small difference between the two. I don't think the Sith are "evil" evil per sa. There means are just more aggressive while the Jedi are at times more low key. I just think now one side is no better than the other. They kinda balance each other out. You know?

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 09:58 PM
Pretty much sums up my feelings, but it's like classifying black and white, when some of the characters that have been involved have been in the gray area - Mara Jade and Anakin are the main two that pop into my mind. It always comes down to the matter of who is driving them and what the goal is for them.

I like to think of them both as political groups with their own agendas and the agents employeed by their own group have their own goals in mind. Anakin had the goal of saving Padme, but failed miserably than you have Mara Jade who was influenced by the Emperor but she managed to turn her back on him and marry Luke in the end.

Both also have different methods and goals, but they have a tendency to fight for something.

Yeap...okay defintely difficult but I've explored the key areas.

ImzadiJedi
08-29-2005, 10:03 PM
In the prequels they made the Jedi and Sith VERY simular. Another reason I didn't like the prequels. I always thought that the Jedi were good and the Sith were bad. But in the prequels especially ROTS, they made it seem like they were the same they just had different adgendas. Neither was good or bad... This really bummed me out about the prequels.

Summers
08-29-2005, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Pretty much sums up my feelings, but it's like classifying black and white, when some of the characters that have been involved have been in the gray area - Mara Jade and Anakin are the main two that pop into my mind. It always comes down to the matter of who is driving them and what the goal is for them.

I like to think of them both as political groups with their own agendas and the agents employeed by their own group have their own goals in mind. Anakin had the goal of saving Padme, but failed miserably than you have Mara Jade who was influenced by the Emperor but she managed to turn her back on him and marry Luke in the end.

Both also have different methods and goals, but they have a tendency to fight for something.

Yeap...okay defintely difficult but I've explored the key areas.

Political groups is another way I saw it as well.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 10:07 PM
I think in some essence they really come out of the same order of thought but truly seperated at some point. One wanted death and power and the other wanted order and peace. The two seperated and found themselves going at it with their own goals at the center.

As the two grew they really became bias toward their own goals and kept them their way. The Jedi's had support from the government and the Sith didn't due to their ideas.

Summers
08-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ImzadiJedi
In the prequels they made the Jedi and Sith VERY simular. Another reason I didn't like the prequels. I always thought that the Jedi were good and the Sith were bad. But in the prequels especially ROTS, they made it seem like they were the same they just had different adgendas. Neither was good or bad... This really bummed me out about the prequels.

I can understand. I guess for me it really didn't effect so much since they really touched on this a lot in the post-RoTJ novels. I don't know. Knowing that Darth Vadar was Anakin Skywalker(we knew that even from the originals) I always assumed the Sith and Jedi were more alike than we originally thought.

I don't know for me I kinda like gray eras of some things.

ImzadiJedi
08-29-2005, 10:18 PM
I disagree... In the original Star Wars it was indicated that the Jedi were on the side of good and the Sith were on the side of evil. Now it seems like Lucas wanted to blur the lines of good and evil. too bad.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 10:21 PM
That is one element I like about the classic trilogy but still in all you did have Darth go into the gray areas once he got further involved with his son influencing his choice to return to his roots. That was really the only taste of the gray in the trilogy that I can remember off the top of my head.

Summers
08-29-2005, 10:25 PM
eh, I disagree. We knew Anakin was a Jedi, and he went to the darkside. Sometimes there is no fine line between good or evil. There is no black and white anymore, and there really never was. If Darth was pure evil, then why did Luke just kill him? Because Luke knew there was still Anakin in their. He even know there was no black or white to the situation. It was never black and white. RoTJ IMO showed that with Luke's dilemna.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
That is one element I like about the classic trilogy but still in all you did have Darth go into the gray areas once he got further involved with his son influencing his choice to return to his roots. That was really the only taste of the gray in the trilogy that I can remember off the top of my head.

Exactly. Darth Vadar/Anakin was the gray area in the classic trilogy. It wasn't cut and dry in RoTJ. That's where the novels and prequels elaborated on.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 10:26 PM
You do have to consider A New Hope though. That film was pretty cut and dry when it came to black and white. The lines really didn't start to blur until ESB.

Summers
08-29-2005, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
You do have to consider A New Hope though. That film was pretty cut and dry when it came to black and white. The lines really didn't start to blur until ESB.

Don't all stories cut and dry in the very beginning. The first Harry Potter book was very cut and dry as was the first season of BtVS. But as the universe of each these became bigger the situations became complicated and it all became very blurry.

The tree in ESB was IMO where it meshed where Luke's face was in Vadar's helmet.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 10:32 PM
My thoughts exactly. On the same page lol.

ImzadiJedi
08-29-2005, 10:32 PM
So the salvation of Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker shows you that there is grey in the Force??? I think it boils down to the choice he made. He made some bad choices in ROTS. And in ROTJ, he made a good choice. The time in between he made the choice to be evil.

Summers
08-29-2005, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by ImzadiJedi
So the salvation of Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker shows you that there is grey in the Force??? I think it boils down to the choice he made. He made some bad choices in ROTS. And in ROTJ, he made a good choice. The time in between he made the choice to be evil.

ESB Tree showed the grey in the Force as well. That was very poinant grey scene showed in the Force.

Uh, choices are self-explantory, but they emphasis the grayness of the Force as well.

Not only his salvation, but he went back and forth of the dark and good constantly. Its not big fat red line that says "Jedi Good" and "Sith Bad". It's in fact very bury line. If it was so distinct Anakin or any other Jedi like Dooku would have never crossed over to the other side. Dooku was right that the Republic was corrupt, and it was corrupting the Jedi. Having so much power like that its inevitable. But Dooku was a Sith, so he is looked as "evil". But was he evil, or just protecting the Republic just from a dangerous Sith than any other. If the distinctions between Jedi and Sith were more concentrate, then the people going to the Sith side would be evil. But the distinctions between the Jedi and Sith aren't really that concentrate.

It's not as black and white as it was in A New Hope. If we are just going to use the originals Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vadar, Luke's dilmena in RoTJ, and the Tree in Dagobah emphasizes the gray of the Force.

KJK
08-29-2005, 10:59 PM
The New Jedi Order books talk about the "grey" area in the Force a lot. It's more your intent than anything else. Such as Sith Lightning. Most people view that as a Darkside power, but really, how is killing another Jedi in battle with lightning any different than killing him with a lightsaber? It's your intent that dictates what side of the Force you're drawing on.

Summers
08-29-2005, 11:04 PM
Exactly, and The New Jedi Order books discuss and emphasize this theme a lot.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-29-2005, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by KJK
The New Jedi Order books talk about the "grey" area in the Force a lot. It's more your intent than anything else. Such as Sith Lightning. Most people view that as a Darkside power, but really, how is killing another Jedi in battle with lightning any different than killing him with a lightsaber? It's your intent that dictates what side of the Force you're drawing on.

That's the way I've always felt about it.

PETER WEST
08-30-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Luke did pass it down to Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin. One day his son Ben.

About Ben, Your right about that he's is very strong in the Force, Ben has both his Father & Mother's powers. looks like Ben might become more powerful than Luke.

Summers
08-30-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
About Ben, Your right about that he's is very strong in the Force, Ben has both his Father & Mother's powers. looks like Ben might become more powerful than Luke.

Um, I still haven't finished The New Jedi Order books yet ;). So I wouldn't know that yet lol.

j03superbat
08-30-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by ImzadiJedi
In the original Star Wars it was indicated that the Jedi were on the side of good and the Sith were on the side of evil. Now it seems like Lucas wanted to blur the lines of good and evil. too bad.
The way I feel is: the Jedi are good and represent the Light Side of the Force. The Sith are the ultimate evil of the galaxy. No amount of tinkering by Lucas can change that.

When the teachings of the Jedi and the emergence of the Sith began, it was just as cut and dry as it was in the Classic Trilogy. What Lucas was trying to show (as I interpret it) is what happens to a civilization that gets handed down generation after generation and gets exposed to the society around it. People come in with new ideas and as time passes, old laws seem to become obselete and the new citizens and governors feel that they need to fix the original establishment. The lines did blur.

The Force was out of balance because of this. Anakin was born of the Force to purposely enter training late and shine a light on a cancer that had grown on the Jedi society. Only he could see what the Jedi had become because he was an outsider. He defeated all the Jedi (even though Mace Windu was totally awesome) as a Sith to clear the line that had been blurred. In this twisted way, he united the good in the galaxy against the now clear evil. When he destroyed the Emperor, balance was restored and a new, pure Order of Jedi was founded by Luke Skywalker.

This is just my opinion. It's not "official" and Lucas might have some completely different idea.

Summers
08-30-2005, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by j03superbat
The way I feel is: the Jedi are good and represent the Light Side of the Force. The Sith are the ultimate evil of the galaxy. No amount of tinkering by Lucas can change that.

When the teachings of the Jedi and the emergence of the Sith began, it was just as cut and dry as it was in the Classic Trilogy. What Lucas was trying to show (as I interpret it) is what happens to a civilization that gets handed down generation after generation and gets exposed to the society around it. People come in with new ideas and as time passes, old laws seem to become obselete and the new citizens and governors feel that they need to fix the original establishment. The lines did blur.

The Force was out of balance because of this. Anakin was born of the Force to purposely enter training late and shine a light on a cancer that had grown on the Jedi society. Only he could see what the Jedi had become because he was an outsider. He defeated all the Jedi (even though Mace Windu was totally awesome) as a Sith to clear the line that had been blurred. In this twisted way, he united the good in the galaxy against the now clear evil. When he destroyed the Emperor, balance was restored and a new, pure Order of Jedi was founded by Luke Skywalker.

This is just my opinion. It's not "official" and Lucas might have some completely different idea.

I like that interpretation you and ImzadiJedi because it is from the classics. I'm not disagreeing with it per sa, but I just see it from both sides is all now.

IMO It's very interpretative question anyways, but it can make sense multiple ways.

I mean one person can like multiple interpretations can't they?

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-30-2005, 09:30 PM
Indeed, they can. :D

luthorsmentor
08-31-2005, 07:49 AM
alright what i really want to know is which book or is it a comic that had the Emperor revived with Luke serving him and delving in the dark side for a little while?

PETER WEST
08-31-2005, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by luthorsmentor
alright what i really want to know is which book or is it a comic that had the Emperor revived with Luke serving him and delving in the dark side for a little while?

In The comic it was Dark Empire.

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cde1big.jpg

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cde2big.jpg

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cde3big.jpg

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cde4big.jpg

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cde5big.jpg

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cde6big.jpg

j03superbat
08-31-2005, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I mean one person can like multiple interpretations can't they?
Yeah, of course.

I was also going to make a connection with the United States and how Lucas wasn't just making a social commentary on the War in Iraq but on the whole history of the nation, but I don't think Lucas was EVER setting out to do that. If you do look at how the nation started out and the fundamental ideas behind a United States of America and then you look at how many amendments we make to the Constitution, you can start seeing a parallel with the Jedi Society and the strict codes because 5000 years before the Battle of Yavin, Jedi could marry. Jedi could love. Jedi could begin training whenever. But a situation would come up and Jedi would have to amend their Code until they had a very strict Code.

TMLS' BROTHER
08-31-2005, 04:19 PM
Peter West those comics shouldn't luke have one of his hands covered by a glove because he lost it in Empire strikes back?

Or did I miss something?

PETER WEST
08-31-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Peter West those comics shouldn't luke have one of his hands covered by a glove because he lost it in Empire strikes back?

Or did I miss something?

Yes.

here.

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cdetpbbig.jpg

http://www.jedinet.com/timeline/coverart%5Cdetpb2big.jpg

Summers
08-31-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by j03superbat
Yeah, of course.

I was also going to make a connection with the United States and how Lucas wasn't just making a social commentary on the War in Iraq but on the whole history of the nation, but I don't think Lucas was EVER setting out to do that. If you do look at how the nation started out and the fundamental ideas behind a United States of America and then you look at how many amendments we make to the Constitution, you can start seeing a parallel with the Jedi Society and the strict codes because 5000 years before the Battle of Yavin, Jedi could marry. Jedi could love. Jedi could begin training whenever. But a situation would come up and Jedi would have to amend their Code until they had a very strict Code.

Lucas wasn't making a social commentary on Iraq. It was really more in historical context of many Imperlism nations. Far as I knew the Iraq connection was an interpretatoin from some fans.

The SW-universe was based on 1930s-1940s Germany. Palaptine was centered on rise of Hitler, and just reading what Palaptine did to get more power was very, very similar to Hitler in Germany. In fact, Hitler's men were even called Stormtroopers by some citizens.

Jedi IMO was a dervived from East Asian religions where they have no personal possessions whatsover. Some of the practices by the Jedi really do come from the Asian religions. With Lucas in the prequels he added politics in the mix much like past civilizations did by combining religion and state.

LexLuthorMetropolis
08-31-2005, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Peter West those comics shouldn't luke have one of his hands covered by a glove because he lost it in Empire strikes back?

Or did I miss something?

The first post first issue cover is a direct rip of RETURN OF THE JEDI, that's why we see it that way. The later covers as shown go into the black glove detail further as Luke has already shown us.

luthorsmentor
09-01-2005, 07:06 AM
thanks peter.

PETER WEST
09-01-2005, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by luthorsmentor
thanks peter.

your welcome.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
The first post first issue cover is a direct rip of RETURN OF THE JEDI, that's why we see it that way. The later covers as shown go into the black glove detail further as Luke has already shown us.


Excatly.;)

j03superbat
09-01-2005, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Lucas wasn't making a social commentary on Iraq.
Yeah, when I said, "but I don't think Lucas was EVER setting out to do that" I meant for that statement to include him not meaning to make a commentary on Iraq but my wording was bad. Perhaps still a case of Life imitating Art, though.

The rest of your post was still insightful. Overall, I still liked the inclusion of politics in the prequels. It was pretty poorly handled and cheesy but his effort to include it was still admirable in my book. He didn't just make up stuff as he went from movie to movie. IMO, it would have been better for the Clone Wars to have started in Episode I, or perhaps shortly before to sort of mirror how Episode IV takes place as the Galactic Civil War has been raging for years, but then I suppose Lucas wouldn't have been able to properly show Palpatine's rise to power.

Speaking of Palpatine, I always regarded him as the SW equivalent of Julius Caesar more than Hitler, but now that I think about it, I should have been thinking Hitler all along. Especially since I took World History just last year, but Caesar was fresh on my mind at the time.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-01-2005, 07:34 PM
There is that tendency to relae to the commentary on Iraq couresty the audience. People just relate things to current events because there is some minor relation within the context of the movie that they find. Really just depends on the viewer.

Summers
09-01-2005, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by j03superbat
Yeah, when I said, "but I don't think Lucas was EVER setting out to do that" I meant for that statement to include him not meaning to make a commentary on Iraq but my wording was bad. Perhaps still a case of Life imitating Art, though.

The rest of your post was still insightful. Overall, I still liked the inclusion of politics in the prequels. It was pretty poorly handled and cheesy but his effort to include it was still admirable in my book. He didn't just make up stuff as he went from movie to movie. IMO, it would have been better for the Clone Wars to have started in Episode I, or perhaps shortly before to sort of mirror how Episode IV takes place as the Galactic Civil War has been raging for years, but then I suppose Lucas wouldn't have been able to properly show Palpatine's rise to power.

Speaking of Palpatine, I always regarded him as the SW equivalent of Julius Caesar more than Hitler, but now that I think about it, I should have been thinking Hitler all along. Especially since I took World History just last year, but Caesar was fresh on my mind at the time.

Oh, I'm misread you sorry. I didn't know you included this "but I don't think Lucas was EVER setting out to do that". I totally misread...sorry :(.

The politics of the prequel is one of the reasons I like watching them :).

I can see that. Caesar shows some similarities, but whoa Lucas used a lot more Hitler with the politics. Just the mere set-up of it all. I'm debating to use SW in my Hitler rise to power in one of my classes. I can see the students relating the two, and remembering the content.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-01-2005, 11:55 PM
In the back of my mind, I'm pondering the possibility of doing an Obi-Wan fan fic story going into the events prior to A NEW HOPE. About a few weeks before everything really starts to heat up.

Something I'm really thinking about doing.

Summers
09-02-2005, 12:07 AM
That would be a cool read ;).

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-02-2005, 12:26 AM
I've got an outline in my mind. I've really wondered what happened between episodes and the books really don't satisfty my urges as a fan.

Summers
09-02-2005, 12:49 AM
In what timeline?

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-02-2005, 12:54 AM
Picking up after RotS.

Summers
09-02-2005, 01:22 AM
Oooo..excellent :D

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-02-2005, 02:16 AM
It'll be about furthering the transition and exploring what exactly it what that Ben was doing out there.

PETER WEST
09-02-2005, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
It'll be about furthering the transition and exploring what exactly it what that Ben was doing out there.

Obi-Wan was doing two things (1) Watching Luke, (2) Learning more about the Force.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-02-2005, 10:01 AM
But there is still so much untapped potential to being out there. A man can't remain in the desert forever without stirring up some sense of trouble.

j03superbat
09-02-2005, 04:37 PM
Not to discourage you from writing your fan-fic, LexLuthorMetropolis, but in case you're the teeny bit curious, Jude Watson explores some of that untapped potential in "The Last of the Jedi" from Scholastic. I read #1 and it's ok, but doesn't really feel "right". Still interesting to see Obi-Wan seek out other surviving Jedi.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-02-2005, 04:42 PM
I read it as well and needed some more absolution as opposed to what Jude Watson was doing. I liked the other stories that she has tackled but behind that I didn't really like "The Last of the Jedi" it really seems to be forcing something out.

PETER WEST
09-05-2005, 09:03 PM
It's official STAR WARS :Clone Wars Volume 2 DVD, comes out December 6, 2005

http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/img/20050905_bg.jpg

Synopsis: Jedi heroes Anakin Skywalker & Obi-Wan Kenobi continue their valiant fight to stop the evil Separatist led by General Grievous in the Emmy Award-winning and critically acclaimed Star Wars: Clone Wars series. All five 12-minute chapters of Volume 2 are included in this release, chronicling Anakin's rise to Jedi Knight
as well as General Grievous' daring attack against the Republic capital, leading directly into the events of Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith. See Grievous cut through Jedi warriors as he kidnaps the Chancellor,Mace Windu & Yoda fighting side-by-side to defend Coruscant,and Skywalker's shocking vision of the future.

Special DVD Features:
audio commentary by Tartakovsky and his team of artists.

new featurette, "Connecting the Dots,"

two full galleries of animation concept art, storyboards, and sketches,

trailers: Star Wars : Empire at War,Star Wars Battlefront II


from star wars .com (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/news20050905.html)

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-05-2005, 09:29 PM
Thanks for the news, I've been wanting that since the movie came out this summer.

PETER WEST
09-05-2005, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Thanks for the news, I've been wanting that since the movie came out this summer.

Your Welcome, Me too .:D ;)

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-05-2005, 09:35 PM
Just can't believe they waited this long, but it's a perfect way to hit us SW fans up twice since Episode Three is released about the same time.

PETER WEST
09-05-2005, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Just can't believe they waited this long, but it's a perfect way to hit us SW fans up twice since Episode Three is released about the same time.

Episode III is released Nov. 1 only on DVD. no VHS.

check it out.

The Force.net (http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/Revenge_On_DVD_Only_94477.asp)

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-05-2005, 11:10 PM
Thanks again for that info. Can't wait for it either.

VHS is pretty much dead as far as I'm concerned.

Summers
09-07-2005, 11:42 PM
I'm still keeping my VHS player for my VHS Original SW Trilogy :).

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-07-2005, 11:52 PM
Still have mine as well :D

snaps
09-08-2005, 09:28 AM
i still have 3 versions of star wars on vhs ...black box release....blue box digitaly remastered then the special edition release so my video recorder is going nowhere

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-08-2005, 12:00 PM
I've got just about every type of equipment you can have. VHS and DVD are still my top uses though.

PS2 coming in a close third.

PETER WEST
09-11-2005, 07:09 AM
New Star Wars Episode III webdoc chapter # 16. - Going To The Darkside


When Anakin Skywalker first stood before the Jedi Council as a nine-year old boy, Yoda laid out his future in a progression that began with fear and ended with suffering. The final steps of that journey will take place in Revenge of the Sith, with Hayden Christensen playing Anakin at the most important juncture in his life. George Lucas selected Christensen for his ability to play dark, and in this episode, the darkness will consume Skywalker as he becomes Darth Vader. Hear from Christensen as he undertakes this journey, with insights from crew and co-stars.


Going To The Dark Side (http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/me3/16.html)

From STAR WARS.com (http://www.starwars.com/welcome/)

Two more menu shorts from DvdAnswers.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/3c7be8c7.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/b5f13253.jpg

The top one is my favorite one.:D

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-14-2005, 10:01 PM
I have to say the menu selections look great as always. That's one thing I do love about the SW discs. The menus are always spectular and they're constantly active.

Summers
09-18-2005, 12:30 AM
A long time ago I borrowed some of my brother's SW, and I always forgot to buy the favorites I loved. Today I bought the Jedi Academy trilogy. This is one of my favorite trilogies :D.

VersesBatman
09-18-2005, 10:26 AM
My husband and my sister still don't get why I think Darth Vader's "Nooooooooo!" is so funny.

PATMAN
09-18-2005, 12:00 PM
maybe cause it isnt?

VersesBatman
09-18-2005, 12:43 PM
I think it is. So does my brother and a lot of people I know.

UDStyle
09-18-2005, 02:37 PM
The special features on this will be a must see. I can put money on that

Summers
09-18-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
I think it is. So does my brother and a lot of people I know.

It is funny. Heck, everytime a crappy SV spoiler comes out someone always has a link to it. Everyone starts laughing. It was just so lame. The first showing I saw of RoTS half the theatre was laughing at the "NOOOO" :lol:. Personally, I would have him fall to his knees, and crying.

VersesBatman
09-18-2005, 09:52 PM
See what I mean? I love using that "Nooooo!" for the spoilers.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-19-2005, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
My husband and my sister still don't get why I think Darth Vader's "Nooooooooo!" is so funny.

It truly is. I know Hayden is trying to come as angered and everything, but it really comes off as more...bad acting. I have to laugh everytime I see it just because of that idea alone.

UDStyle
09-19-2005, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
My husband and my sister still don't get why I think Darth Vader's "Nooooooooo!" is so funny. Yeah it's kinda CLiche and Corny. They could have done something else.

j03superbat
09-19-2005, 06:06 PM
I really don't see any other way Darth Vader could have reacted, besides going, "D'OH!" and I don't think anyone would have wanted that.

But I did chuckle at his "NOOOOOOOOO!". Heh, heh.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-19-2005, 06:15 PM
Completely agree but the important thing is that the final chapter was the strongest of the prequel trilogy.

Summers
09-19-2005, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by UDStyle
Yeah it's kinda CLiche and Corny. They could have done something else.

How many "NOOO!!" did we have in the SW saga:
Luke in ANH seeing Old Ben die(of course not really)
Luke in ESB to Vadar
Young Obi-Wan in TPM seeing Qui die
Anakin/Vader in RoTS

I would have the say my most favorite that was delivered was by Ewan McGreggor. That was a great "NOOO!!". Then followed up by Luke's in ANH on the delivering.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Completely agree but the important thing is that the final chapter was the strongest of the prequel trilogy.

As it should be :).

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-19-2005, 09:48 PM
I can forgive the bad writing in the previous entries since the last one was so great.

Summers
09-19-2005, 10:39 PM
For the prequels I loved RoTS, but I also loved The Phantom Menace.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-19-2005, 11:46 PM
I actually enjoyed Attack of the Clones and RotS oddly enough. Darker movies almost, but I don't think they'll ever top the original trilogy.

Summers
09-19-2005, 11:48 PM
Yup. Original Traditionalist here myself lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-20-2005, 12:17 AM
The good ole days. Not counting the Christmas Special. That's a whole other iceberg.

UDStyle
09-20-2005, 04:15 AM
The Star Wars edition of the Muppet show.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-20-2005, 04:14 PM
I actually enjoyed the Star Wars Muppet Show. Whereas I cringed the entire time watching the Holiday Special. Go figure.

j03superbat
09-20-2005, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by UDStyle
The Star Wars edition of the Muppet show.
I've never heard of that one. Now I want to see it.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-20-2005, 06:42 PM
I think it was in the Muppet Show's first or second season.

j03superbat
09-20-2005, 06:55 PM
I liked the Muppets as a kid.

Summers
09-20-2005, 08:13 PM
You guys never seen the SW muppet show :eek:. They sometimes show it often when talking about SW originals. Where Mark Hamil has his Bespin clothes, and Miss Piggy is dressed like Princess Leia :rotfl:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-20-2005, 08:55 PM
And Missy Piggy slugs everyone that gets near Mark as he does a musical number.

Summers
09-20-2005, 09:15 PM
Yea, she just lays herself on him :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
09-20-2005, 09:18 PM
I wasn't even a STAR WARS fan at the time I saw this, but I remember it and let us not forget PIGS IN SPACE!

UDStyle
09-24-2005, 01:54 PM
It was C L A S S I C.

Miss Piggy and Hamil.. it was ment to be.

VersesBatman
09-24-2005, 02:17 PM
Does anyone know of the Star Wars Holiday Special?

UDStyle
09-24-2005, 06:41 PM
Before my time but I know of it.

Summers
09-24-2005, 06:43 PM
I never seen or heard of that one.

Xcalibur
09-24-2005, 06:52 PM
Star wars episode 3 was sooo disappointing IMO.

Summers
09-24-2005, 07:01 PM
Really why?

Xcalibur
09-24-2005, 08:06 PM
It could have been so much better.
Plus Anakin was a joke.

VersesBatman
09-24-2005, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I never seen or heard of that one.
It was a special put out after Thanksgiving. I believe shortly after the first Star Wars came out. I heard it was so awful that George is trying to get rid of any copies of it.

UDStyle
09-25-2005, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
It could have been so much better. Actually I agree.. Between everything being so damn rushed and the psedo love story with Anakin and Padme' I thought they could have done better. I mean the episode 2 romance seemed a lot more real. I mean what are they trying to say? After you get married the love is fake? ..er actually thats true in real life, but you just don't put that accross in family movies like Star Wars!

And whats with the rush transformation into vader? One minute he was "What have I done" then 2 SECONDS LATER it's "Yes Master". At least they could of had more emphasis that it was the emperors dark influence drowing his mind or something.

And the wooooorst: "She is dying because she has lost the will to live" WTF?? I almost fell out of my chair!

Yes they could have done a lot better with this. Maybe smoothed it out, make it more subtle.

VersesBatman
09-25-2005, 08:32 AM
But it was much better than Phantom Menace. That's not saying much but still...

PETER WEST
09-25-2005, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
But it was much better than Phantom Menace. That's not saying much but still...

Actually, After I watching Episode III, Episode I now makes prefect sense now .

Palpatine/Darth Sidious was The Phantom Menace all along, Not Darth Maul or The Sith. Palpatine started The War inorder to become The Ruler of The Galaxy.

So Episode I, Is really The main story of Palpatine rise to power, while it is also The Story of Anakin Skywalker : The Chosen One . And The story of The Legendary Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi .

Before Episode III, When I first saw episode I, I only saw it as just The story of Anakin Skywalker, But now it's become clear to me, It's really about Palpatine begining his Quest to become The Ruler of The Galaxy . Then It's about Anakin & Obi-Wan .

VersesBatman
09-25-2005, 09:18 AM
That's interesting because Lucas has been saying that Star Wars is about Anakin.

PETER WEST
09-25-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
That's interesting because Lucas has been saying that Star Wars is about Anakin.

It's not just about Anakin, Star Wars revoles around The Skywalker Family. It's started With Anakin,(The first Trilogy) Then it continued with Anakin's Son (Luke) & his Daughther (Leia.)(In the second Trilogy);)

Summers
09-25-2005, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
It could have been so much better.
Plus Anakin was a joke.

I think the dialogue could've been better. Anakin to me became more intriguing when he was going to the darkside. IMO The novel version does a better job at portraying Anakin's inner turmoil.


Originally posted by PETER WEST
Actually, After I watching Episode III, Episode I now makes prefect sense now .

Palpatine/Darth Sidious was The Phantom Menace all along, Not Darth Maul or The Sith. Palpatine started The War inorder to become The Ruler of The Galaxy.

So Episode I, Is really The main story of Palpatine rise to power, while it is also The Story of Anakin Skywalker : The Chosen One . And The story of The Legendary Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi .

Before Episode III, When I first saw episode I, I only saw it as just The story of Anakin Skywalker, But now it's become clear to me, It's really about Palpatine begining his Quest to become The Ruler of The Galaxy . Then It's about Anakin & Obi-Wan .

To be honest I view the prequels as Palpatine's story in the forefront, and the subplot(the variables to get his rise to power) is Anakin and Obi-Wan.


Originally posted by PETER WEST
It's not just about Anakin, Star Wars revoles around The Skywalker Family. It's started With Anakin,(The first Trilogy) Then it continued with Anakin's Son (Luke) & his Daughther (Leia.)(In the second Trilogy);)

I agree with that. I know Lucas says the Star Wars Saga revolves around Anakin, however; I don't agree him. I think it is about the Skywalker family, and it is still true to today in the Star Wars novels with Han and Leia's children Jacen, Jaina, Anakin, and soon Luke and Mara's son Ben.

VersesBatman
09-25-2005, 02:59 PM
I couldn't help but go "Huh?" when Lucas said that.

UDStyle
09-25-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
But it was much better than Phantom Menace. That's not saying much but still... True but it didn't live up to the hype it gained as the last star wars film.

snaps
09-27-2005, 03:36 AM
i always thought that the whole saga was anakins struggle with his inner self and fulling the phropecy of the chosen one destroying the sith ......then the side storys ....power struggles etc....

Summers
09-28-2005, 05:36 PM
To be honest I'll really never believe that to a full extent since watching the originals since I was a little girl there was no mention of the Chosen One. That was a prequel plot device used for Anakin's arc. It was fine in the prequels, but it contradicts a good twenty or less years what the originals had.

snaps
10-02-2005, 03:10 PM
i remember an interveiw i once read cant remember where from but ...george lucus did say in it that the whole star wars story was based around darth vader...later known as anankin skywalker

Summers
10-02-2005, 03:14 PM
That interview was the time of the prequels not during the time of the originals. The originals were about Luke.

PETER WEST
10-02-2005, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by snaps
i remember an interveiw i once read cant remember where from but ...george lucus did say in it that the whole star wars story was based around darth vader...later known as anankin skywalker


The WHOLE Story of Star Wars revolves around The "SKYWALKER Family".

sure their are other main characters in the story. but if you get down to it. The bottom line is The story of STAR WARS is about The Skywalker family. not only Darth Vader or Anakin. It's about the whole family.

(The prequel Trilogy )"CENTER" revolves around Anakin Skywalker.

(The Original Trilogy)"CENTER" revolves around Luke Skywalker.

CrazyForSmallville
10-07-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
The WHOLE Story of Star Wars revolves around The "SKYWALKER Family".

sure their are other main characters in the story. but if you get down to it. The bottom line is The story of STAR WARS is about The Skywalker family. not only Darth Vader or Anakin. It's about the whole family.

(The prequel Trilogy )"CENTER" revolves around Anakin Skywalker.

(The Original Trilogy)"CENTER" revolves around Luke Skywalker.

It's not so much in the original trilogy about Luke.... It's about Luke trying to turn is father DARTH VADER/ANAKIN SKYWALKER back to the good side.

PETER WEST
10-07-2005, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by CrazyForSmallville
It's not so much in the original trilogy about Luke....

It's about Luke trying to turn is father DARTH VADER/ANAKIN SKYWALKER back to the good side.

Yes it is, It's Luke story. From a Farmboy, To a Rebel Hero, To a Jedi Knight.

That's part of it, but It was Luke's DESTINY to become a Jedi, (from the moment he was born.)

Episode IV, V & VI Main Story is on Luke's Journey .

Summers
10-08-2005, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by CrazyForSmallville
It's about Luke trying to turn is father DARTH VADER/ANAKIN SKYWALKER back to the good side.

That was his arc in RoTJ, but not in the whole entire original trilogy.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-08-2005, 08:53 PM
All about the Skywalker family as far as I can tell. Anakin's ordeals and transition leading to Luke and Leia solving the dileema and righting the wrongs of Anakin and the Empire.

Summers
10-08-2005, 09:27 PM
That I agree with it. Then go to the expanded universe it surrounds the Solo children.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Transference of power or those who have a stronger attachment to the Force.

UDStyle
10-09-2005, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Summers
That I agree with it. Then go to the expanded universe it surrounds the Solo children. or the KOTOR timeline (which is set 5000 years before Anakin).

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-10-2005, 01:49 PM
Clarify for me. I remember the Jedi Order and Sith Order, but beyond that I'm at huh.

UDStyle
10-10-2005, 02:32 PM
What do you mean exactly? If you mean force whelding groups only the Sith and Jedi lay claim to that ability. And the Sith were former Jedi's.

If you mean other groups that have an impact on the SW universe there are too many to name. Most notably the Mandalorians (of which Jango Fett is the last of) and the Rakatan, who shaped the galaxy through their campaigns of conquest which turned Tatooine from a grassland planet to a barren desert and grew the tree's in Kashyyyk (Wookie homeworld). They existed 30,000 years before the empire.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-10-2005, 02:34 PM
You summed it up best. All I knew was the book title forms since I've never read anything prior except for the Prequel Trilogy material.

UDStyle
10-10-2005, 02:36 PM
Play Knights of the old republic 1 and 2. A lot is revealed in those games and IMO are the best games put out in the last 3 years.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-10-2005, 02:38 PM
Defintely going to get my hands on the game when I have so money to spend again.

UDStyle
10-11-2005, 03:11 AM
Rob a bank. It won't hurt.

LuthorCorp98
10-12-2005, 09:03 PM
Oh, boy, am I in trouble. A STAR WARS thread! :D

I'd have to agree, the Knights games are among the best I've ever played...

PETER WEST
10-12-2005, 10:16 PM
Promotional Episode III DVD images:

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http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/701/dvk1oi6em.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dvk1oi6em.jpg)

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;)

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-12-2005, 10:25 PM
M&M's current Halloween ad is playing up the STAR WARS gambit again. One of the M&M's is being turned into a Jack-o-lanetern and he is questioning which STAR WARS character he is.

Last thing we see is an ad for Episode 3 on DVD.

Summers
10-12-2005, 10:31 PM
They are selling glow in the dark candy as well with Anakin on the package lol. I'm tempted to buy those for my students :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-12-2005, 10:37 PM
You'll have a nice wrapper to add to the collection, too. :)

VersesBatman
10-12-2005, 10:38 PM
I like that commercial.

Summers
10-12-2005, 10:40 PM
Me too. So in about three weeks RoTS, correct?

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-12-2005, 10:41 PM
Believe so.

Summers
10-12-2005, 10:47 PM
Making sure. I'm brain is all frozen inside lol.

I'm thinking of doing a review test session for my students using a Star Wars theme. Dork yes, but dorkness they remember :rotfl:.

UDStyle
10-12-2005, 11:33 PM
When the dvd is out i think over half the nations star wars dvd collection will be complete.

Damn it's kind of ackward. Star Wars of really over :(

Summers
10-12-2005, 11:39 PM
That's why I think of the expanded universe. It's not over entirely :D. I need those novels lol.

UDStyle
10-12-2005, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Summers
That's why I think of the expanded universe. It's not over entirely :D. I need those novels lol. True that and the Games. Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 were mad cool. The story alone from Kotor could generate a good Star Wars movie.

Summers
10-12-2005, 11:48 PM
The style of KotOR games I couldn't get into. I'm more of a flying girl on Rogue Squadron, and the games based off the movies. I heard they might bring the Super NES Games released on all platforms...supposely.

I love The New Jedi Order movie, but I know it won't happen. I just love the Solo children's journey.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:05 AM
New Jedi Order would be great, but at least we're getting something of a TV series at some point.

Summers
10-13-2005, 12:06 AM
It's prequel tv series though :(. I'm so biased to the post-RoTJ :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:07 AM
Hmmmm. Prequel TV series. Me thinks bad idea.

Want post-RotJ as well.

Summers
10-13-2005, 12:09 AM
Me tried of prequels on-screen.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:11 AM
Clone Wars animated series were great, beyond that I can't take anymore.

UDStyle
10-13-2005, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Clone Wars animated series were great, beyond that I can't take anymore. Clone Wars at times had better action then ROTS.

Summers
10-13-2005, 12:22 AM
I think I'm the only one in this thread who didn't watch that cartoon :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:23 AM
Get it on DVD. First one is available, Vol.2 will be out about the same time as the movie.

Summers
10-13-2005, 12:24 AM
Sweetie, I'm broke. Student Teaching I don't get paid lol.

UDStyle
10-13-2005, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Summers
Sweetie, I'm broke. Student Teaching I don't get paid lol. Little voice inside of you: The wells fargo, the ski-mask.. no one has to know.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:26 AM
I'm aware, luv. (Start a habit, can't break it lol) Maybe I'll find a way to get them to you.

Summers
10-13-2005, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by UDStyle
Little voice inside of you: The wells fargo, the ski-mask.. no one has to know.

:lol: :lol:

*steal...steal*


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I'm aware, luv. (Start a habit, can't break it lol) Maybe I'll find a way to get them to you.

Awww....it's okay ;).

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:36 AM
Cartoon Network will probably reair them again when the DVD comes out just to advertise for it.

Summers
10-13-2005, 12:38 AM
They should since JLU is on hiatus until January.

LexLuthorMetropolis
10-13-2005, 12:38 AM
Here's to hoping.

That's how I caught the second half when they did the marathons.