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[Timester]

Originally posted by ImzadiJedi
Anakin also made bad choices. But Revenge of the Sith also made the Jedi look bad too. They didn't seem any better than the Sith. Oh, I didn't like what Lucas did in Revenge of the Sith... He almost ruined the whole series. I have to now think of the original trilogy as being seperate from the prequel trilogy... Grrr.

Well, the movie showed how the Jedi Order fall through out time, because their superiority and arrogance. It had been this way for more than 10000 years. Also, the movie showed the Force from a Sith prespective.

[tonyrino8]

Originally posted by ImzadiJedi
Luke fulfilled the prophecy about bringing balance.

The prophecy was written but misinterpreted by Jedi, so maybe the Sith actually wrote it......

Luke didn't forfill the prophecy, Vader already did that when he made sure there were only two sith - Vader & Palpatine, & two Jedi Obi-Wan & Yoda....that is the force BALANCED (2 v 2)....Even though this was only short lived, if you count Luke & Leia.

Don't think you can class Luke & Leia at that point as making the balance towards Jedi again though, as they weren't actually Jedi then, being babies.

When Vader killed Palpatine, he had turned to the light side again, so Luke couldn't have created balance as there were now two Jedi & no Sith - Luke & Anakin/Vader-ish.

[Summers]

Originally posted by tonyrino8
The prophecy was written but misinterpreted by Jedi, so maybe the Sith actually wrote it......

Luke didn't forfill the prophecy, Vader already did that when he made sure there were only two sith - Vader & Palpatine, & two Jedi Obi-Wan & Yoda....that is the force BALANCED (2 v 2)....Even though this was only short lived, if you count Luke & Leia.

Don't think you can class Luke & Leia at that point as making the balance towards Jedi again though, as they weren't actually Jedi then, being babies.

When Vader killed Palpatine, he had turned to the light side again, so Luke couldn't have created balance as there were now two Jedi & no Sith - Luke & Anakin/Vader-ish.

Well, see that depends because in the originals there was nothing of the prophecy or the chosen one. That was from the prequels continuity. So IMO it depends on which timeline you are talking about.


Originally posted by Timester
Well, the movie showed how the Jedi Order fall through out time, because their superiority and arrogance. It had been this way for more than 10000 years. Also, the movie showed the Force from a Sith prespective.

Very true. Especially coming from Anakin at the end in Musfar.

[LilWonderWoman]

this is pretty funny


funny link (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

when vader was yelling that out did ppl laugh in the theaters when you guys saw it?

pretty much everyone did when i went

[ImzadiJedi]

If it wasn't for Luke, Vader would of never gone back to the good side.

The prequels just made everything crazy... Sith, Jedi, etc.

[Flash_85]

Originally posted by LilWonderWoman
this is pretty funny


funny link (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

when vader was yelling that out did ppl laugh in the theaters when you guys saw it?

pretty much everyone did when i went

People laughed, I forced myself not to laugh, but I wanted to.

[lex_4_president]

Originally posted by tonyrino8
The prophecy was written but misinterpreted by Jedi, so maybe the Sith actually wrote it......

Luke didn't forfill the prophecy, Vader already did that when he made sure there were only two sith - Vader & Palpatine, & two Jedi Obi-Wan & Yoda....that is the force BALANCED (2 v 2)....Even though this was only short lived, if you count Luke & Leia.

Don't think you can class Luke & Leia at that point as making the balance towards Jedi again though, as they weren't actually Jedi then, being babies.

When Vader killed Palpatine, he had turned to the light side again, so Luke couldn't have created balance as there were now two Jedi & no Sith - Luke & Anakin/Vader-ish.

Just so you know, The Force wasn't balanced until Vader killed The Emporer. That was when The Force became balanced, not when there were matching numbers of Jedi and Sith. Because we don't really know if more Jedi than Obi-Wan and Yoda lived-there could have been MANY more Jedi in hiding that we never saw, I know there were many more people who were strong in The Force. Anyway, I wanted to clear that up.

Vader killing the Emporer was when he fulfilled "the prophecy". He destroyes the Sith Lord, and in doing so, redeemed himself-and ceased being a Sith Lord (in a sense). It took him twenty+ years to do it, but he did finally do it. He turned back to the good side.

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And no, I did not laugh when Vader yelled Noooo...nor did I want too.

[ferd]

Exactly L4P. Anakin brings balance to the force when he destroys the sith, albeit with the help of his son who in a sense redeems him, thus allowing him to experience true compassion--which is how Anakin is able to become a spirit in the force at the end of Jedi. (The compassion link to the force knowledge I obtained a deleted scene for anyone scratching their head over how Anakin gets there at the end with Obi-wan and Yoda) :)

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I have seen the movie 3 times so far and no one has ever laughed at the Vadar "No" part. Not sure why they would :\

Lucas was very clear in his interviews at pointing out that even in ANH Vadar is not the bad a-- of the galaxy all the fans think he is.(Think about it--with all his skills, he's never overthrown Sidious in almost 20 years between ROTS and ANH). He is beat down, has no real reason to go on, therefore has been reduced to Sidious' whipping boy, and well puppet in a way. He gave up all that he had to save Padme, but lost her, and everything else in the process. He basically goes through the motions--even Grand Moff Tarkin has more power over the death star than Darth Vadar.

Anakin is a very tragic character who makes choices that inevitably cause his downfall. The choices he makes are ones most of us would do if we were in the same situation, that is what makes his story so compelling to us. The final "Noooo" cements Sidious' victory over Anakin, (as you can see from his evil grin at Vadar's pain) and therefore I don't see it as something to be laughed at.

But hey, maybe that's just me.

[PATMAN]

yeah i dont see why vader feeling agony is reason for laughter

[lex_4_president]

Thanks Ferd!!! That was an awesome response-thanks for saying what I couldn't say nearly as well (about the Vader Nooo)

:p

[Summers]

Originally posted by LilWonderWoman
this is pretty funny


funny link (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

when vader was yelling that out did ppl laugh in the theaters when you guys saw it?

pretty much everyone did when i went

In the theatre I did. Everyone was laughing. This one guy said, "This isnt Spaceballs" :lol:.

Vadar's no was unnecessary, but that's Lucas and his parallels to Luke in that respect. But come on that was just beyond lame. IMO Vadar should have fell to his knees, and bowed his head in disbelief and shame.

[lex_4_president]

I didn't think Vader's scream was lame (at that's fine, we just have differing opinions), but consider that Vader just had artificial legs attached just at the knees, it might've been super painful for him to drop to his knees at that moment. Though under different circumstances it could've been cool.
Also-if you think about what most people say when they hear tragic, sad news like he heard, about 99% of the time the first thing people say is No! They may not scream it like Vader (or Luke did), but that is what most people say. :)
That's what I've said the few times I've received horrible news.


Also, George Lucas may dub over that particular line before the DVD release, like he did Padme's line in Attack of the Clones, after she fell out of the warship on Geonosis. People laughed at that too, when she was asked if she was okay by the Clone Trooper, and she immediately stood up and said yes in a strong voice. Now, on the DVD, it's more subdued, and more like a uh hunh statement.
Anyway, my point is if GL finds that more people are laughing at the no, then feeling the intended emotion, he may have James Earl Jones record different dialogue. The nice thing about having a masked character. He can do that and no one knows the difference. :)

[Summers]

Originally posted by lex_4_president
I didn't think Vader's scream was lame (at that's fine, we just have differing opinions), but consider that Vader just had artificial legs attached just at the knees, it might've been super painful for him to drop to his knees at that moment. Though under different circumstances it could've been cool.
Also-if you think about what most people say when they hear tragic, sad news like he heard, about 99% of the time the first thing people say is No! They may not scream it like Vader (or Luke did), but that is what most people say. :)
That's what I've said the few times I've received horrible news.


Out of a scene that Anakin hears about Padma I didnt expect myself to laugh, but once he started to yell "NOOOO" it took me right out of that scene. It felt like it should be on SNL or something.

Painful part on the knees is questionable due to SW's technology and medicine.

Personally, I dont scream no. That depends on the person, but with SW right off the bat anyone could tell is was paralleling Luke from ESB.

[chlark fan]

I was really swept up in the whole moment when Anakin hears about Padma dying. I felt alot of pain for him and didn't see anything funny about his sorrow.

I thought that some people would laugh (because that's how people are) but noone in my theatre did. That's how Vader talks and it was showing his final transfermation from Anakin to Darth Vader. I was a sad, gut-wrenching moment.

[LilWonderWoman]

i didnt laugh when i first saw it, everyone in the theater was, but in the context in which the site i posted before puts it in, to hear it over and over again, it's kinda funny

i completely understand the total anguish that anakin went through at that moment but it seems slightly over the top for my taste. it was needed though

[Flash_85]

I think Lucas could've done the ending better with Anakin finding out about Padme. Vader should've gone after Palpatine with his choke hold telling him that he lied to him that he was going to save Padme. Then Palpatine could've turned it around saying it was Kenobi who dun it, or something like that.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Flash_85
I think Lucas could've done the ending better with Anakin finding out about Padme. Vader should've gone after Palpatine with his choke hold telling him that he lied to him that he was going to save Padme. Then Palpatine could've turned it around saying it was Kenobi who dun it, or something like that.

He can't, since at that part Vader was already weaker than the Emperor.

[saxman]

and also, making Anakin feel guilty about Padme's death, he gains alot more than if he says "he did it".

palpatine only wants to control Anakin, nothing more, and for that, you need to hold all of the cards.

[fatty_acids]

i was laffin my a$$ off at the Vader "NoooOOOooOOo". it just looked freakin hilarious. This can be compared to Clark's "NoooOOOOooo" when he finds Alicia dead. i didn't laff when Clark did dat. The diff was dat Clark didn't throw his head back and throw his arms up. i would've laffed if Clark did what Vader did.:cool:

[Summers]

Originally posted by fatty_acids
i was laffin my a$$ off at the Vader "NoooOOOooOOo". it just looked freakin hilarious. This can be compared to Clark's "NoooOOOOooo" when he finds Alicia dead. i didn't laff when Clark did dat. The diff was dat Clark didn't throw his head back and throw his arms up. i would've laffed if Clark did what Vader did.:cool:

yea, the body moment is what made it funny to me. He looked well...they way he did it made me go out of the scene.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by LilWonderWoman
this is pretty funny

funny link (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

when vader was yelling that out did ppl laugh in the theaters when you guys saw it?

pretty much everyone did when i went

I like that copy you got there. :eek: :cool:

[ImzadiJedi]

Originally posted by LilWonderWoman
this is pretty funny


funny link (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

when vader was yelling that out did ppl laugh in the theaters when you guys saw it?

pretty much everyone did when i went

Is that actually from the movie? It didn't seem like it. It sounded like some fanboys attempt to copy it.

[RedPhoenix23]

HAHA! I just went to that site, and the Vader screaming (no!!!)- scared the living hell out of my poor Min Pin!!!

[svmoney]

I get why some people find him screaming "Nooooo" funny but I don't think it's funny. I know from any character it's hard to take that line serious (espically when it's Darth Vader) but they were just still trying to show there was still some compassion and feeling left in him, but after he found out Padme was dead that was all gone.

[wideboys182]

Until Return of the jedi :)

[RedPhoenix23]

I didn't think it was funny when I first saw him scream-but when I think back-'tis funny! :lol:

[DarkseidX]

Okay so this is a question,

I think Vader is the best, or is it Yoda? Who's the best?

I know it's not Luke, Anakin let himself be killed by Luke.

[Dolly]

Originally posted by svmoney
I get why some people find him screaming "Nooooo" funny but I don't think it's funny. I know from any character it's hard to take that line serious (espically when it's Darth Vader) but they were just still trying to show there was still some compassion and feeling left in him, but after he found out Padme was dead that was all gone.

I don't think it was the actual No but the way the line was delivered and in what context.

The birth of Darth Vader, as we know him was a very awaited moment, it is the milestone of the trilogy and regardless of knowing it was going to happen we needed to witness it.

I was eager to see the whole movie but the highlight was this particular moment. The No didn't sound right. I agree that it might have shown some compassion but it was not convincing. It was too frail of a No and a very weak end scene overall. I know it is hard to overcome and overshadow the highlight of the trilogy but there were other ways to end the scene in a more powerful way.

For some reason I cannot see Vader just yelling 'Nooooooo' when he has lost the love of his life and the reason why he was so eager to have power.

This ads to the fact that there were several moments what were weakly achieved and no real emoting from the characters.

Regardless I loved it...I waited and wasn't disappointed. SW rocks!

[Summers]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Okay so this is a question,

I think Vader is the best, or is it Yoda? Who's the best?

I know it's not Luke, Anakin let himself be killed by Luke.

Anaking let himself be killed by Luke? How? IMO Luke was touching the dark side, and that's how Luke had advantage in the ROTJ dual. In the books Luke is very very strong.

btw, has anyone finished The New Jedi Order series. I've havent been collecting them as I should. I found out yesterday after four year book series its finally over. Did anyone read the last book in that series?

[ImzadiJedi]

Originally posted by Summers
btw, has anyone finished The New Jedi Order series. I've havent been collecting them as I should. I found out yesterday after four year book series its finally over. Did anyone read the last book in that series?

NOoooo! I am sorry. I couldn't resist. ;)

[lex_4_president]

Originally posted by DarkseidX


I know it's not Luke, Anakin let himself be killed by Luke.


Anakin, aka Darth Vader, led himself to his own demise. When he grabbed the Emporer and the Force-lightening went through his mechanical body, he basically killed himself at that point, shorting out his life support systems in the suit.
I don't see how Luke killed him??? Luke tried to save him in the end...

[Blue.Lightning]

Anakin killed Darth Vader...Vader is a complete diferent person by then and Anakin was gone until his son got him to come back and become good.

[chlark fan]

I just saw Ep. III again tonight and noone laughed this time either. I must be from a more mature area than you guys :p.

I still didn't find it funny either.

[snaps]

:mad: i dont know why anybody would laugh at anothers pain (i know it fictional).....anakin was greaving the loss of his wife what was he supposed to do say oh okay lets get on with ruling the galaxy ....

nobody laughed in the 2 times ive been to see it


though the second time there was laughing at R2

[LilWonderWoman]

Originally posted by chlark fan
I just saw Ep. III again tonight and noone laughed this time either. I must be from a more mature area than you guys :p.

I still didn't find it funny either.

i was in uninon square in manhattan, new york city.


anyway, i found this on the web, don't know if it's true though


Lucas to make 'Star Wars' prequel

London, May 27, 2005

There's great news for Star Wars fans - a seventh blockbuster is being planned for the series, although director George Lucas had previously said the current Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith would be the last.

Lucas now appears to have changed his mind and is reportedly developing a prequel to the 1999 flick, Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace, reports Internet portal Femalefirst.

"George believes there are even more stories to tell. His latest idea would feature an almost all-new cast, apart from the Jedi master Yoda, who would be the hero of the new movie," an insider said.

According to reports, the film would be set 100 years before the current movies. Lucas will reportedly try to take a backseat throughout the next production

[lex_4_president]

^The article above is not true. Lucas has said MANY times that no more movies will be made. And since he owns all rights to anything and everything Star Wars, no one else will be making any new movies either, without his permission/approval.
I would be leery to believe ANY news reports that don't name sources, or don't come from Lucasfilm Ltd., or the Star Wars.com (the official) website.

There are plans in progress for a Television Series (probably to span between eps III and IV), but that is all.

[Summers]

Originally posted by snaps

though the second time there was laughing at R2

R2 was funny :lol:.

[ImzadiJedi]

I think the story is false too.

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by Summers
In the theatre I did. Everyone was laughing. This one guy said, "This isnt Spaceballs" :lol:.
:lol: Actually I thought the "Nooooooooooo!" was Mystery Science Theater-worthy.

[Summers]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
:lol: Actually I thought the "Nooooooooooo!" was Mystery Science Theater-worthy.

That's true. That's going to stay with me when I watch tomorrow :lol:.

[VersesBatman]

My husband would ahve killed me if I MST'ed ROTS.

[PATMAN]

yeah the report's definently fake

The one funny part i thought was when r2 got kicked by the battle droid. Vader didnt strike me as funny

[wideboys182]

R2 was hilarious in the movies

[DarkseidX]

Everyone's forgetting my main question which is, who's the best Jedi Fighter?

Yoda or Vader?

[Timester]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Everyone's forgetting my main question which is, who's the best Jedi Fighter?

Yoda or Vader?

Vader. Anakin was more powerfull than any Jedi Master and he was even more powerfull when become Vader. But then, he lost power when was defeated by Obi-Wan.

[DarkseidX]

Vader better than yoda eh? Okay.

[Timester]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Vader better than yoda eh? Okay.

Clone Wars cartoons is a center of information. Anakin was better fighter than Mace Windu and more powerful Force-adept than Yoda. Wise words of Obi-Wan. :D

[DarkseidX]

Obi Wan is da man.:D

[lex_4_president]

Well-if we are comparing Yoda and Vader in the suit...Yoda is more powerful.
If we're comparing Yoda and Anakin, I'd have to say Anakin is more powerful.

IMHO :D

[Summers]

Originally posted by Timester
Clone Wars cartoons is a center of information. Anakin was better fighter than Mace Windu and more powerful Force-adept than Yoda. Wise words of Obi-Wan. :D

ick, I'm really starting to despise that cartoon :lol:. If you think about the general audience still wont view it like that. They'll base it on what they saw in the movies, and nothing else lol. I was hearing heated arguments between SW fanatics vs. General Audience members.

Who wished R2 kept those gadgets in his machine body in the originals? He was so cute. I :rotfl: when he slammed right into the wall when Palpetine, Ben, and Anakin were in that portal thing(I forgot what they called it).

[Dolly]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Everyone's forgetting my main question which is, who's the best Jedi Fighter?

Yoda or Vader?

Yoda by far.

Nine hundred years old, Yoda had trained Jedi for eight centuries, and was very powerful in the Force.

He has trained several jedis including Obi Wan.

nuff said.

[nipvillesmlltuk]

Not sure if I should post this here, but, does anyone know where I could find some Star Wars fan vids? I know that we have a SV one on this sight, but, not sure, if we're allowed to have SW ones. Anyone can help?

Oh, BTW, I like both their styles, but, I guess Yoda, 'cos he's so tiny, but has alot of "force" within him. I love watching him duel [dual..w/e]. I saw ROTS, and just saw his little body bouncing around, fighting and thought it was awesome. I do like the way Anakin fights, though.

[fatty_acids]

YODA IS #1.....no one beats yoda.
yoda would kill Anakin in a duel.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by fatty_acids
YODA IS #1.....no one beats yoda.
yoda would kill Anakin in a duel.

I 2nd that! :p

[ferd]

Yoda gets my vote. In ROTS Yoda tells Obi-wan that he (Obi-wan) is not strong enough to fight Sidious, therefore Yoda sends him to take care of Anakin. Yoda is more powerful than Obi-wan, and Obi-wan took down Anakin (when he was young an in his prime, and full of the dark side). In ROTJ Obi-wan gives himself up the force, Vadar does not win there.

Yoda would take Anakin down, IMHO. :)

I think Mace Windu could've taken down Anakin, too had he known they were going to end up on opposite sides and wasn't caught off guard by Anakin's protection of Palpatine. Mace Windu was a very powerful jedi, not saying Anakin wasn't, he just seemed to be blinded over his thrist for power. Like most young adults, he assumed he knew a lot more than he really did. His arrogance in that arena was one of the pivitol points of his downfall.

[ImzadiJedi]

You better be careful in the movie ROTS, it is stated that only Sith deal in absolutes. :rolleyes:

[wideboys182]

You got it wrong the most powerful Jedi is Yoda but the best Jedi Fighter is Anakin

[Somebody Stop Me]

Wideboys not trying to be rude but that avitar is in use by somebody else on this board. Manofsteelkalel uses that one.

[ImzadiJedi]

Only the Sith deal in absolutes so you can't state for sure that Anakin/Darth Vader is better than Yoda or the other way around. If you do then your being a Sith. ;)

[wideboys182]

Somebody Stop Me

Your not being rude but honestly my answer is so.

ImzadiJedi

True that didn't think of it like that

[Somebody Stop Me]

But there is an unwritten rule on here not to take somebody else avitar. I have some cool avitars if you want one.

[ImzadiJedi]

That sounds very Sith to me. ;)

Yes, I have a thing about the comment about only the Sith deal in absolutes. What a load of c_ap.

[wideboys182]

Well i didnt take the avatar off him, when i first joined here it was a deafult one you could use so i picked it

[tonyrino8]

arh what's with the avatar stealing cr@p anyway?

I was also accused of stealing an avi, which I never, I changed it to stop the moaning, but I should of said what wideboy said too.

So I'll be a Sith, I like the darkside....it makes you strrrrroonng.

I'm with you wideboy, DON'T change it.

[wideboys182]

Thanks Tony but once i find a better one i will, but at the moment i am keeping it sorry if that upset anyone

[ImzadiJedi]

Well after ROTS there isn't much difference between the Jedi and the Sith. What a bummer!

As far as your avatar... unless a admin type tells you to stop using it... use it until you find something better. When I first saw it I thought it was cool and wanted to use it too.

[tonyrino8]

ermmmm....

*under breath*, *cough cough* me too...... *cough cough*

[Xcalibur]

Obi wan rilz.
He can beat anyone any day......cept for yoda

Edit...rulz

[fatty_acids]

so whos stronger Mace Windu or Yoda?

YODA!

[wideboys182]

YODA was the oldest living Jedi so no one could beat Yoda not even the Sith and Vader (as he trained Luke in the end)

Cheers on the support with the avatar guys but keeping my eye out for maybe an Ep III one :)

[Xcalibur]

He couldnt beat the emperor though

[LilWonderWoman]

hmm interesting discussion, i think Anakin had the potential to be great than yoda, but lacked the ablity to gain the experience.

but on a lighter note i found a parody of the whole vader NOOOOO so for anyone whose interested turn up ur speakers and click here (http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/)

Xcalibur nice Kairi(sp?) avy!

[wideboys182]

LilWonderWoman... now that is hilarious good find

[VersesBatman]

Did anyone think Padme gave birth to huge babies? I thought there was no way she looked like she carried two babies that big.

[Dolly]

The babies didn't only look huge but they looked like a month old babies too!

All peachy looking and perfect.

A very glam take on the classical birth scene.

[VersesBatman]

Padme looked only six months pregnant.

[fatty_acids]

lol...tru dat:cool:

[Xcalibur]

Xcalibur nice Kairi(sp?) avy!

Yea of cours.
Yous hould check out the rpg thread.

Btw.....the clothes padme wore in this movies was pathetic:rotfl:

[fatty_acids]

yea...i wish she wore no clothes:cool:

[VersesBatman]

Come on, she was pregnant. No matter where you go, maternity clothes look bad.

[Xcalibur]

heeeh.....i agree
no clothes might have been better.

[VersesBatman]

On a pregnant woman?

[Summers]

I thought she wore a pretty PJs, and another piece of dress when she talked to Ben.

I saw it again today with couple of my friends who havent seen. Anyways, Bail's ship was so bright to my friend that he put his sunglasses on :lol:. When the Jedi were being killed, and Yoda kills two of the clone troopers this one guy in the theatre yelled 'YEA!!'....I mean the whole theatre was laughing and clapping when the guy yelled it because he was speaking for everybody in the theatre lol.

[lex_4_president]

I thought Padme's costumes were gorgeous, and as far as her pregnant tummy, and the babies, how often have you ever seen realistic looking newborns in movies??? ;)
It's one of a few minor gripes I can deal with, cause as a whole I really enjoyed the movie.

[VersesBatman]

Her maternity clothes were better than mine :lol:

Minor gripe here. You know the blue Jedi woman? I wish I could have seen her kick some major booty before getting killed.

[lex_4_president]

I agree-it would have been nice to see all the Jedi make an attempt at defending themselves before they were mercilessly slaughtered. I'm just glad Ki-Adi-Mundi (conehead Jedi :lol: ) took a few Clone troppers with him before his demise.

[Summers]

I saw some great maternity clothes the other day for my friend. They are definitely getting better lol.

I think we saw her kick booty in Attack of the Clones. I hated to see the teenage padawan die before Bail's eyes :(. It was messed up and sad to see the clone troopers kill the Jedi on the speeders and planes before they died. They didnt see it coming :(.

[VersesBatman]

That whole scene still leaves me stunned.

[Summers]

The music to that scene matched it beautifully. It was so heartbreaking.

[Timester]

There are two reasons. Full surprise and Clone Troopers. We are talking of enhanced Jengo Fett's clones and those were commando Clones. Not even a Jedi can destroy a squadron of Clones.

[HalJordan4184]

Yeah, cause that reputation they had of being unkillable godlike warriors came from them being sissies in a fight, and unprepared.

I have a problem with the entire itr was a surprise argument. JEDI SEE THE FUTURE. The darkside may cloud the visions of far away things, and such. But Jedi precognition it what enables them to fight like they do, blocking blaster bolts (which they apparently forgot how to do in attack of the clones and revenge of the sith) and easily outmanuevirng opponents. The only reasont ehy went down like that was because it was convenient for george lucas not to have to show anything but people falling over and lying still.

As for Jedi not being able to take out a battalion of troopers, i guess the ones that took out battallions of droids, and other species that they came against must of just had heart attacks and died of shock. Even though the clones were cloned from jango fett, they werent jango fett. They didnt fight like him, they didnt think like him. They didnt have his experiences, nor his attitudes. They were simply bred for battle. Fed tactical data from birth, and trained as marksmen and tactitians.

[Summers]

I know its Memorial Day weekend, and my brain might be fried but you guys are confusing me on the Clone Troopers :lol:.

From what I can understand on my wasted brain Hal makes two good points:
-Lucas' convience...that's known to happen for all creators though lol. It was convient in Buffy's series finale of all the Scoobies and potential slayers to kill Ubervamps very easily. Even though Buffy had a hard time doing it beginning of the last season(its just example lol).
-The clones are not Jango Fett

That makes sense to my fried little brain lol.

[fatty_acids]

saw epIII again today...not on the big screen but on my friend's tv...and he burnt me a DVD of epIII.;)

absolutely luved it...even tho the audio sucks at times, but it didn't take away from the movie. The Vader "NoooOOOOOoo" scene is still freakin hilarious, he was like frankanstein, lol. most of the dialogue between Anakin and Padme were also funny. especially when Anakin tells Padme they'll rule the galaxy together or som'n. i think the scenes where Anakin & Padme don't talk were better than the ones where they do talk....like the scene when Anakin and Padme were looking out their windows towards each other.

[Summers]

Originally posted by fatty_acids
i think the scenes where Anakin & Padme don't talk were better than the ones where they do talk....like the scene when Anakin and Padme were looking out their windows towards each other.

I thought that scene was done perfectly. You can hear Anakin's turmoil inside him. Padma knows something is wrong, but cant pinpoint it. I love that scene, and the music in that part. My brother and I were discussing Padma in that scene that she might have sense something because she technically has the Force within her due to Luke and Leia in her womb.

[PATMAN]

i absolutly loved the whole movie

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by PATMAN
i absolutly loved the whole movie

As did I.

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by Summers
I thought that scene was done perfectly. You can hear Anakin's turmoil inside him. Padma knows something is wrong, but cant pinpoint it. I love that scene, and the music in that part. My brother and I were discussing Padma in that scene that she might have sense something because she technically has the Force within her due to Luke and Leia in her womb.
Do you think that's how Leia remember's her mother? In ROTJ it states she remembered her somewhat, while Luke didn't.

[lex_4_president]

My absolute favorite scene in the whole movie was that one, with Anakin and Padme looking towards eachother out the windows, with the music. The best scene because there's no words, and none are needed, all you need to see are the tortured expressions on Anakin's face, and Padme. I think she sensed something, having to do with Anakin, and his struggle across the cityscape.
Anyway, I adore that scene and can't wait to view the film again so I can see it. :\

As far as Leia remembering her mother, and Luke not, I, personally, think that it's a mother/daughter thing. My other thought is that Leia remembers her adoptive mother, not Padme...but it's hard to know for sure. There are a ton of theories flying around the StarWars.com Message Boards (http://forums.starwars.com/index.jspa), it's very interesting to read up on.

[VersesBatman]

My husband said Leia talked about her adoptive mother, but Luke asked her to tell him about her "real" mother and then says "I don't remember my mother". He wouldn't have said that if he wasn't going to reveal that they were twins.

[lex_4_president]

Yeah-I know...it's an endless debate. But, I already said my thoughts. :)

We'll never know for sure, unless George Lucas himself clears the air :lol:.

I'm sure he had to have some idea in mind, because he wouldn't have made such a blatant contradiction in his films, if he didn't have a plan. And maybe he left it ambiguous just to give the fans something to debate about. :)

[VersesBatman]

Some fans do think George has been making it up as he's going along.

[lex_4_president]

I suppose so, but I, personlly, can't believe that. He has stated that he had to write the entire backstory so that he could flesh out the Original Trilogy story.
I am sure he didn't have every detail written, but he had to have some idea what would happen to each character, especially Padme and Anakin (well, obviously Anakin, as he's Darth Vader;) ).
I know it's not a perfectly explained part of the story, but I don't mind-because either way I look at it (mother/daughter Force Bond or Leia thinking of her adoptive mother) it works for me. I just LOVE the Original Trilogy too much, if anything, the error is in the ROTS, with Padme "dying" right after the babies are born. I had thought I'd heard, awhile ago, that her death would be staged, but unless there's a missing scene, it's pretty obvious he didn't go that route. :)

[TMLS' BROTHER]

So did you think Padme's death was good (way for her to die)?

[lex_4_president]

I think it was a good death, an explainable way for her to die-though I personally would have liked to have seen her go with one of the babies, and maybe live a little while longer. But, that would have been hard to do, as Lucas wanted to end the film with the twins hidden with their respective "parents" if you will.

[Summers]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
My husband said Leia talked about her adoptive mother, but Luke asked her to tell him about her "real" mother and then says "I don't remember my mother". He wouldn't have said that if he wasn't going to reveal that they were twins.

Your hubby is right. She said "real". Personally, I think Lucas screwed up on that part. Its the only thing that irked really about ROTS. It doesnt match up with ROTJ. My brother's interpretation is that it deals with the Force memory than anything. We differ on this. Its your choice, but to me it doesnt match up.


Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
So did you think Padme's death was good (way for her to die)?

Well, with this question I'm going to have to throw continuity to the wind.

Personally, I kinda like Lex's senerio of her going with one of the babies.....preferably Leia :D. Or not to have the medical droid say "she is losing her will to live". I wouldve liked it more if she died of something physical because IMO her babies will give her the will to live. I mean its her children, and she doesnt want to live :confused: . That scene is sad, but irked me at the same time.

[DarkseidX]

Did anyone dress up during the primiere? Anybody?

No just me I guess.:p

[Blue.Lightning]

WHO IS SIDOFIOUS??

[Summers]

Do you mean Sidious? Its the Sith name for Emperor Palpetine.

[fatty_acids]

do you mean Emperor Palpatine? its the correct way to spell his name....:p

[Summers]

Originally posted by fatty_acids
do you mean Emperor Palpatine? its the correct way to spell his name....:p

smartalex :lol:. I'm known for my misspelled words, but I honestly did not know if he meant Sidious.

[fatty_acids]

im just playin....

anyways, SIDOFIOUS!?!...who the f*ck spells it like dat?!:confused:

[snaps]

blue lightening means the name of the jedi who ordered the clones to be grown ......not darth sidious / palpatine

[Flash_85]

The Ciphadeus guy. That's the one who ordered the clones, was he also Palpatine's master, Darth Plageus I think it was?

[lex_4_president]

Jedi Sifo Deious (sp???) who set up the cloning operation on Kamino. He was a Jedi Master who recruited the Kaminoan's to Clone Jango Fett to create an army for the Republic (without the Jedi Council knowledge or permission). We never really found out why-but it's my understanding that he was contacted, coerced into doing it (secretly of course) by Palpatine (maybe he was going to be a new apprentice?). He was then killed, sometime shortly after Episode 1 ended (as Obi-Wan states in Ep II). I don't think it matters really anymore who he was, but we were never told nor was it insinuated that he was Darth Plageius...where did you (Flash 85) hear that??

[yeshuamyking7]

Well, I finally saw Revenge of the Sith, and it was fantastic. I absolutely loved this film. The special effects were amazing, the fight scenes were brilliant, the plot was great. Everything worked for me. I loved how everything came together in the end.

The movie was also very sad. The part where Anakin kills the younglings was very sad. You just want things to turn out differently, but you know that he's going to the Dark side.

This movie ranks up there with the first three, in my opinion. It's a fitting end to the story.

[PATMAN]

Its one of my favs ever

I heard the sifo dyas guy was an alias for count dooku and he did it off palpatines orders

I didnt like padmes death, i thought she was strong enough not to lose the will to live

[Xcalibur]

Did anyone else think they could have gotten a better actor for Anakin?

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I thought the guy who played anakin was good.

[lex_4_president]

I don't think so...I can't think of any other known actors that could have played the tortured soul that was Anakin as well. Of course I guess they could have cast an unknown, but I thought Hayden did the best he could with the really bad dialogue. Episode III was light years better than Episode II as far as his acting goes.

[Xcalibur]

Episode 2 was really annoying with Hayden's actin.

[PATMAN]

they could have gotten me. Im not sure if id have accepted though.

[VersesBatman]

Your hubby is right. She said "real". Personally, I think Lucas screwed up on that part. Its the only thing that irked really about ROTS. It doesnt match up with ROTJ. My brother's interpretation is that it deals with the Force memory than anything. We differ on this. Its your choice, but to me it doesnt match up.
Some went out on a limb to say that since Leia is not from "around here" she may very well be able to remember her parents similar to Vulcans.

I also thought it was lame that Padme "lost the will to live". It would have been better if she died from childbirth complications.

[Summers]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
Some went out on a limb to say that since Leia is not from "around here" she may very well be able to remember her parents similar to Vulcans.

I also thought it was lame that Padme "lost the will to live". It would have been better if she died from childbirth complications.

Childbirth complications would make more sense to me. I mean she is carry twins, and there is a higher rate of complications.

[VersesBatman]

It would have been much more dramatic. It just made her look pathetic to look at her babies and give up.

[lex_4_president]

I didn't think it was lame at all that Padme died of a broken heart. I think it only goes to show how she gave everything she had to Anakin, while he was concerned only with himself. How HE couldn't live without Padme, how HE was "mistreated" by the Jedi Council, how HE had been "betrayed" by her and Obi-Wan (in his warped mind's eye).
Anakin loved Padme, but it was selfish, whereas Padme loved Anakin but was selfless. If that makes sense. :) And in the end when Anakin refused to leave, to live with Padme and their child, her heart broke, I think (IMO) she and Anakin were connected through The Force, and when he almost killed her, he severed that connectivity, and thus caused her demise. Ultimately he really did kill her. :\

Anyways-after all that, I think the reason for her death added to the tragedy of the tale.

[Summers]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
It would have been much more dramatic. It just made her look pathetic to look at her babies and give up.

I agree. Its kinda makes her look like a bad mother to give up just because she lost her husband. Sadly, in real life that does happen and I was hoping it wouldnt happen in Star Wars.

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Did anyone dress up during the primiere? Anybody?

No just me I guess.:p
No, but I think it would have been funny to dress up like Mr. Spock and walk around flipping off the Star Wars fans.

[lex_4_president]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
No, but I think it would have been funny to dress up like Mr. Spock and walk around flipping off the Star Wars fans.

:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:

[fatty_acids]

ahahhahahhahaahahhahah

[Timester]

Originally posted by Summers
Childbirth complications would make more sense to me. I mean she is carry twins, and there is a higher rate of complications.

And Anakin choked her.

[Summers]

Originally posted by Timester
And Anakin choked her.

Medical droid said she is physically fine ;).

[Timester]

Originally posted by Summers
Medical droid said she is physically fine ;).

That's why I would re-write that all scene. Even the Palpatine's "you killed her" would made more sense.

[VersesBatman]

How could she be physically fine when she was on that lava planet?

[Summers]

Originally posted by Timester
That's why I would re-write that all scene. Even the Palpatine's "you killed her" would made more sense.

I agree. I was hoping Lucas changed after I read the spoilers, but he didnt :(. I thing that scene is the only thing that really bugged me.


Originally posted by VersesBatman
How could she be physically fine when she was on that lava planet?

You would think the heat intensity would kill anyone on that planet :lol:.

[VersesBatman]

Especially with that go-go get up she had on.

[Summers]

I know. I mean I under Ben and Ani not being affect because they ones with the Force, but then technically Padma is too because of Luke and Leia. I dont know :lol:.

[VersesBatman]

But it wouldn't be strong enought to protect her though.

[Summers]

Even with two babies? Luke is very powerful, and Leia has it in her as well.

[VersesBatman]

But they are just babies. Is the force that strong in babies?

[Summers]

In the books they are. Leia commented on it many times when she was pregnant with her twins Jaina and Jacen, and she felt a lot with Anakin. But I'm going off what she said in the books though.

[VersesBatman]

Oh I see.

I think George is just going with the movies, not the books.

[fatty_acids]

agreed

[Summers]

I dont know. He gives a lot to the Clone War cartoons.

[lex_4_president]

Are you still talking about Padme on Mustafar?

It's Star Wars-so anthing is possible, it is fantasy after all. Even with The Force it's hard for me to believe that even Obi-Wan and Anakin wouldn't have burnt up in the free-flowing lava. But it's fantasy. Anything can happen. ;)

[Summers]

Yes, we are still talking about it.

Its just fun to talk to about is all :).

[lex_4_president]

I know-;)

Sorry if I was a wet blanket...I just get defensive about Star Wars...:p

It's kinda sad actually. Ah, well :\

[tiger17]

Does anyone know when the second set of Clone Wars will be out on DVD?

[HalJordan4184]

Babies are strong in the force. It's how jedi find prospective jedi. They come across babies who have an unusually high force presence about them. It's basically, every person has a presence int he force, since it flows through all of us and binds us together. But a force sensitive poerson, or p[rospective jedi if you will, has a much stronger presence because the force collects around them more so to speak. They have the ability to use the force, and as so, it pools around them. So luke and leia both would have unusually high force presences because of who their father is. They could potentially be more powerful than anakin himself. This is how george basically explained it in interviews and stuff, where geeks like me asked him questions.

Also, anakin qnd obi wan didn't have to burn up. A normal human won't burn up standing near lava, or even floating on top of it. On top of it they were shielded from the heat. And standing by lava only makes you very hot. YOu won't instantly light on fire. Lava is only a few thousand degrees fahrenheit. It's noit hot enough to actually make a human spontaneously combust standing by it. They'd have to touch it, or be near enough to it for their clothes to ignite. And using the force obi and ani could easily channel a lot of that energy away from themsleves to protect themselves. It would also be why anakin caught on fire after the fight when he was weak and beat up.

[Summers]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184

Also, anakin qnd obi wan didn't have to burn up. A normal human won't burn up standing near lava, or even floating on top of it. On top of it they were shielded from the heat. And standing by lava only makes you very hot. YOu won't instantly light on fire. Lava is only a few thousand degrees fahrenheit. It's noit hot enough to actually make a human spontaneously combust standing by it. They'd have to touch it, or be near enough to it for their clothes to ignite. And using the force obi and ani could easily channel a lot of that energy away from themsleves to protect themselves. It would also be why anakin caught on fire after the fight when he was weak and beat up.

Cool. With the babies I was somewhat right :).

The lava makes sense now. Thanks, Hal.

[Darth_Elvis]

I was bummed that *Boba Fett* wasn't the one who killed Mace Windu. What was the point of having the son witness what happend to his dad in episode II if Boba wasn't going to do something in Ep III? I remember in episode V that Darth Vader told Boba *No disintegration!...* which led me to believe that Boba had a history of disintegrating people, like Jedi people.
It bugged me that Vader did what he did to the younglings. I liked Vader being the way he was in 4, 5, and 6 but what he did in ep 3 was bad enough for me to not like him at all even though he saved luke.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

But it showed Anakin turning to the bad side.

[Darth_Elvis]

Even with the frustrations that Anakin had in the movie, I didn't think it warranted turning over to the Dark Side. Yeah he wanted to do what he could for his wife, but couldn't they just go to the doctor and see their options or something. From 1st being concerned to then being a child murderer is a big jump IMO. The beginning of the movie had him and Obi-Wan getting along fine but then he all of a sudden is trying to cut his head off. The whole thing was a quick 180 that I wasn't satisfied with.

I really wanted Boba Fett to kill somebody in this movie, but he was nowhere. The clones don't count.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Anakin and Padme couldn't go to a doctor because then Anakin would have been thrown out of the Jedi order and Palpatine has been minipulating Anakin for like 12 years.

[Daphne]

I finally saw it and loved most of it. It made me think of the "old days" with Star Wars and Empire Stricks Back. I liked the fact that Anakin was so powerful. And I agree, it seems that it would take more to turn to the dark side, as specially as horrifically as he did.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I think the way they killed off that underwater jedi guy was bad seeing as he was in at least 2 films and the clone wars.

[Hal-El]

Originally posted by supermanover21
I just watched the films. I have to say I was a little miffed when I saw Hayden Christensen, at the end of "Jedi," instead of David Prowse but, it's cool.

David Prowse isn't the actor who was replaced. Sebastian Shaw is.

(Prowse played the masked Vader. Shaw played the unmasked Vader and the original Anakin ghost.)

[fatty_acids]

Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
I think the way they killed off that underwater jedi guy was bad seeing as he was in at least 2 films and the clone wars.

whos the underwater jedi?:confused:

[Shinzon2004]

I must say that I was really impressed by Episode III.
I have seen it twice,and I am very pleased of what GL did.

I think that Episode III is a great way to close the saga....
That is if old George is planning to do the next chapters,
Episodes VII,VIII and IX....but I guess that that wont happen
the original actors are way too old to do these....besides they have moved to other things.

Still there is always the chance to do more Star Wars movies...
animated of course.I always wanted to see the saga
adapted into anime movies.And GL had said many times that Episode III was the last Star Wars hell ever made.

(Unless of course he change his mind).

I felt sorry for Anakin and Obi Wan....and specially Padme,
Luke and Leia s mother.....

I think that Anakin and Obi Wan s duel was terrific!

Well done Mr GL! Thanks for giving us Star Wars!

[kal 101]

i already have star wars on bootleg. i can watch it any time i want!

[Summers]

Oh, someone's been naughty lol.

[lex_4_president]

Originally posted by fatty_acids
whos the underwater jedi?:confused:

Kit Fisto-with the tentacles, and the huge grin (from Episode II)


Originally posted by Darth_Elvis
Even with the frustrations that Anakin had in the movie, I didn't think it warranted turning over to the Dark Side. Yeah he wanted to do what he could for his wife, but couldn't they just go to the doctor and see their options or something. From 1st being concerned to then being a child murderer is a big jump IMO. The beginning of the movie had him and Obi-Wan getting along fine but then he all of a sudden is trying to cut his head off. The whole thing was a quick 180 that I wasn't satisfied with.

I really wanted Boba Fett to kill somebody in this movie, but he was nowhere. The clones don't count.

the novelization of the film goes into more detail about how, and why Anakin chooses to go to the Dark Side. It's more drawn out and not as "sudden" as it appears in the film.
Basically, he decides that saving Padme's life is more important to him then the Jedi Order. So he surrenders himself to Palpatine's teachings, and he allows Palpatine to warp his mind, and because he's always had doubts and fears about the Jedi Order, it wasn't too far a fall for him to turn against them all.
I'd suggest reading the novelization if you want more detail, or substance, when it comes to Anakin and his struggle with the Dark Side and his fear. It's present even from the beginning of the story, but it's hard to pick out in the film. After reading the novel, I can appreciate the scenes for what they are supposed to represent.
It's a decent book otherwise, I've read better Expanded Universe, but it's not bad.

[snaps]

ive also read the novel for ROTS......and i read it before i went to see the movie which is what made me disappointed in the film ..in the book you get all anakins feelings and fustrations which did make his turning to the dark side more believeable .....and the scenes between him and padme were more life like


but this does not stop me from going this saturday to see it again for the 3rd time......:D

[luthorsmentor]

got you beat, i've already seen it three times. and wouldn't mind seeing it for a fourth.

[lex_4_president]

That is why I waited to see the film before I read the novelization. For one I didn't want to know everything about the movie, and I didn't want to expect scenes that weren't going to be there, or scenes that were changed (like Episode II-the book for AOTC was better than the film), but I wasn't disappointed with the movie, having just finished the novel. I like most of what the movie included-though I would have liked to have seen more of Anakin's relationship with Padme, and more of Padme as a strong female lead, instead of a crying, apparently weak wife. Oh well. All I can do is hope there are some really good deleted scenes on the DVD release.

BTW-This isn't a contest or anything, but I've seen it 4 times already-and I will probably see it at least once more. :p

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Kit Fisto-with the tentacles, and the huge grin (from Episode II)

In ep. 3 he was with mace when they try to get Palpatine

[Shinzon2004]

You see.....I dont follow the books,but I loved Episode III.

It was shocking to see the Chanciller killing Mace Windu...

I always wanted to know why Anakin decided to go to the Dark Side of the Force....However there is something odd about the movie:The score is very similar to the music used in Episode I and II.....it seems that Jhon Williams didnt composed new music for certain scenes.....did you noticed this about the music?

Also for Episode II he used some music from Episode I....

By the way did you noticed that the Millenium Falcon was landing in Coruscant???

[lex_4_president]

As far as the musical score-John Williams did recycle certain main themes, not only from Ep's I and II, but also from the Original Trilogy. Basically, this film was a bridge, so the music stayed similar. There were variations-the score wasn't exactly the same, but certain themes were incorporated, like Leia's theme from ANH, and Luke's theme also from ANH-they were both used at the end. And I recall the Duel of the Fates-certain parts of that theme were used again. I liked the use of familiar music. But I love John Williams and I think he is a compositional (word?? :lol: ) genius.

and yes, I did notice the Falcon landing on Corsucant...nice little easter egg. :)

[TMLS' BROTHER]

No where was the that scene was the millenium falcon in?

[PATMAN]

It was when anakin and obi wan were coming back from the space battle, the falcon was in one of the loading docks

[lex_4_president]

It was at the beginning, after Anakin lands the Invisible Hand (Grievous's ship) and he and Obi-Wan are on the transport shuttle landing to meet the Senators.
You can see the Falcon landing also, in the bottom-towards the right side of the screen.

[Shinzon2004]

Was that done on purpose or.....?

Anyway,there is another easter egg for Episode II.

After Anakin finds his dead mother,and returns home,
he is talking with Padme.Watch closely and you ll notice
that Anakin s shadow looks very similar to that of Darth Vader!

Was this also done on purpose or.....????

[snaps]

Originally posted by luthorsmentor
got you beat, i've already seen it three times. and wouldn't mind seeing it for a fourth.

just a little friendly competion.... i can watch it when ever i want now ....:D and i aint revealing my source...:lol:



as for the falcon i missed it the second time around so i think ill go have a look now ..or now i know where to watch ill wait till saturday

[DarthClark]

All I have to say is this is the best movie I have EVER seen.

[Summers]

Originally posted by lex_4_president
As far as the musical score-John Williams did recycle certain main themes, not only from Ep's I and II, but also from the Original Trilogy. Basically, this film was a bridge, so the music stayed similar. There were variations-the score wasn't exactly the same, but certain themes were incorporated, like Leia's theme from ANH, and Luke's theme also from ANH-they were both used at the end. And I recall the Duel of the Fates-certain parts of that theme were used again. I liked the use of familiar music. But I love John Williams and I think he is a compositional (word?? :lol: ) genius.

and yes, I did notice the Falcon landing on Corsucant...nice little easter egg. :)

yea, Duel of the Fates was used during the duel between Yoda vs. Palpatine, and Ben vs. Ani.

I just bought the soundtrack yesterday :).

I found it on the lower bottom right of the screen.

[DarthClark]

Hey Summers, this has nothing to do with the topic but do you have any pics?

[Summers]

Originally posted by DarthClark
Hey Summers, this has nothing to do with the topic but do you have any pics?

pictures of what?

[VersesBatman]

Has anyone seen this? it's funny.

http://www.lego.com/starwars/default.aspx

[lex_4_president]

THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!

I loved the scene where Obi-Wan dismantled his starfighter-and when Chewy took the picture of Anakin and Obi-Wan. OMG :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:

Thanks for the link, that made my horrible crappy day bright again!!!!!!

:p

[VersesBatman]

Anytime!

[slayer]

Check out organic food and star wars!

http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html

there's a thread but nobody is checking it out and it's pretty cool!

[lex_4_president]

:lol: That was good too...Chewbroccoli :rotfl:


Originally posted by slayer
Check out organic food and star wars!

http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html

there's a thread but nobody is checking it out and it's pretty cool!

Thai-fighters, hee hee :lol:

[fatty_acids]

lol dats a funny video

so, wats every1s Instant Messenger names here?

Mine are:
AIM: arletdotcom
MSN: zeto_man22@hotmail.com
Yahoo: zeto_man22

[snaps]

just watched both the links ....

loved the buzz spray and the stromtropper orcheastra(sp)

[VersesBatman]

I thought that was so cute. The cantina scene was funny.

[PATMAN]

yeah, im thinking about getting the game

[snaps]

im no good at ps2 or pc games but the lego one has had fantastic reports .........

i did buy the trivial pursuit dvd starwars edition and that was a good game :D ..some of it was a little hard if your not totally up on all your ships ....:confused:

[Darth_Elvis]

the novelization of the film goes into more detail about how, and why Anakin chooses to go to the Dark Side. It's more drawn out and not as "sudden" as it appears in the film...[/B][/QUOTE]


*sudden* is a perfect way to put it. I can understand having doubts and not liking some of the council (did anyone like Windu?), but from one minute ready to turn palpatine over to the authorities and the next he's slicing up Younglings was very sudden. The book is probably better, I've read some S W books that are post episode 6 that are very good. I even read the original trilogy so I could see what the characters were thinking. Episode III doesn't make me want to pick up a book and read though, it was disappointing IMO.

AND NO Boba Fett! What's up w/ that?

[VersesBatman]

Oh yeah, where was he?

[HalJordan4184]

The book is much better. A big thing weitht eh books though,t hey arent like the movies in a lot fo ways because they are based off of the original screenplay and ideas george had before filming ever started. And they usually tie into the Extended Universe. Like when tehy talk about mace using vapaad. That doesnt actually exist int he movie series. Nor do any lightsaber forms that are different. They never tells us this. The extended universe gtave birth to these ideas. With Obi Wan amstering soresu, and anakin being a master of something i can't remember. But there are six forms in the EU, with mace being the only lightside practioner of the darkside form, which is inheritantly more powerful, but much more dangerous to the user. But all in all, I liked the bnook much better. I thought it fit with the OT much better as well.

[Timester]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
Oh yeah, where was he?

There are rumors of a Boba Fett Tv Show. ;)

[snaps]

got to agree you got more from the book than the film.......and the book is definatly worth reading the insight in to anakin is worth it alone

[chlark fan]

Originally posted by lex_4_president
I don't think so...I can't think of any other known actors that could have played the tortured soul that was Anakin as well. Of course I guess they could have cast an unknown, but I thought Hayden did the best he could with the really bad dialogue. Episode III was light years better than Episode II as far as his acting goes.

Hayden did wonderfully as Anakin, both good and evil. And they did cast an unknown. One of the reasons GL cast Hayden Christensen was because he was virtually unknown.

[lex_4_president]

Well, virtually unknown I guess, but I had seen him in some things on TV before SW...so he wasn't too unknown to me. :)

As far as the book-if you had doubts, or things about the movie that you didn't like, the book would probably help you fill in the blanks. You find out that anakin is not that far from the dark side from the beginning. His desire for power, and his need to control the things in his life have him walking a fine line. It's very illuminating to read the novels (for all the films), and also listening to the commentaries on the DVDs too...I cannot wait to hear the commentary on the Episode III DVD. It's got me in a tizzy...;)

[lex_4_president]

New novel for events after Revenge of the Sith...here's the announcement from Starwars.com...


http://starwars.com/eu/lit/novel/news20050603.html

[Darth_Elvis]

Originally posted by lex_4_president


As far as the book-if you had doubts, or things about the movie that you didn't like, the book would probably help you fill in the blanks. You find out that anakin is not that far from the dark side from the beginning. His desire for power, and his need to control the things in his life have him walking a fine line. It's very illuminating to read the novels (for all the films), and also listening to the commentaries on the DVDs too...I cannot wait to hear the commentary on the Episode III DVD. It's got me in a tizzy...;)

Yeah books are great, but I didn't want to leave the theatre with so many questions as I did.

#1 Why no Boba Fett vs Mace Windu
#2 Why Yoda and Obi-Wan didn't combine forces to bust up Darth Sidious?
#3 Why the Jedi go to arrest Sidious by themselves without any police (or their equivalent), the Jedi aren't police right?
#4 How does Chewbacca end up with Han Solo?
#5 Where did Darth Maul come from?
#6 Why no explanation of how Jedi disappear into the force, and how does Qui-gon communicate w/ Yoda but not with Obi or Anakin.

Those mainly.

[lex_4_president]

Originally posted by Darth_Elvis
Yeah books are great, but I didn't want to leave the theatre with so many questions as I did.

#1 Why no Boba Fett vs Mace Windu
#2 Why Yoda and Obi-Wan didn't combine forces to bust up Darth Sidious?
#3 Why the Jedi go to arrest Sidious by themselves without any police (or their equivalent), the Jedi aren't police right?
#4 How does Chewbacca end up with Han Solo?
#5 Where did Darth Maul come from?
#6 Why no explanation of how Jedi disappear into the force, and how does Qui-gon communicate w/ Yoda but not with Obi or Anakin.

Those mainly.

Well, let me see if I can answer some of these...
#1-the story is not about Boba Fett, he's background character that developed a cult following, and he has no bearing on how Anakin becomes Darth Vader, plus, ROTS takes place only 2-3 years after AOTC, so Boba would only be like 14 years old. Not likely that he'd seek out Mace Windu, the 2nd most powerful Jedi...

#2-never thought of this-I'd say it's because the Emporer has to live-remember this movie is only bridging the gap between Episode II and IV...what happens after has already been established, and Obi-Wan had to duel Anakin, so that left Yoda alone to battle Sidious. Couldn't have happened another way, or Episodes VI-VI wouldn't make any sense

#3-The Jedi are the peacekeepers, and probably felt responsible to make Palpatine answer for his "crimes". Plus, I am sure any security forces would be in Palpatine's pocket, like Mace WIndu said, he owns the courts.

#4-At the time of ROTS, Han Solo would barely be a toddler, or just a very young child. How Chewbacca ends up with Han is explained in the Correlian Trilogy of books-and has to do with Han rescuing him from slavery. Wookiee's live a long time, so Chewbacca is many years older than Han.

#5-Where did Darth Maul come from? Check here:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/darthmaul/index.html

#6-As for the becoming one with The Force-some things are just not explained. This will probably remain a mystery for a long time. It was not explored in the book either.

:) Hope that helped.

[Darth_Elvis]

1. True, the story isn't about Boba Fett but there was Boba and Jango Fett everywhere in ep 2, so not having Boba at all in ep 2 was disapointing. The emperor has all these connections with all these oddball characters, why not a 14 yr-old kid. I'm sure Boba would have gone Kamikaze to get back at Mace.

2. After Obi-Wan came back from beating up Anakin, why didn't they go after Palpatine together is what I meant. Obi-Wan likes fighting in teams (him and Qui-Gon, him and Anakin) so why not him and Yoda?

3. The Jedi going by themselves to arrest Sidious looked like some kind of Coup, probably did to people who heard about it. Having others around as witnesses would have made it look legit.

The other explanations helped, thank you *lex_4_president*

[Darth_Elvis]

So are Jedi's Mutants with their Midichlorians (spell?)? Like Anakin for example, his mama didn't have powers but gives birth to a child with powers due to high Midichlorian numbers. Mutant or no?

[snaps]

the books explaining how chewie meets up with han are a very good read you get more into their realtionship and you get why han joines the rebelion

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Darth_Elvis
1. True, the story isn't about Boba Fett but there was Boba and Jango Fett everywhere in ep 2, so not having Boba at all in ep 2 was disapointing. The emperor has all these connections with all these oddball characters, why not a 14 yr-old kid. I'm sure Boba would have gone Kamikaze to get back at Mace.

2. After Obi-Wan came back from beating up Anakin, why didn't they go after Palpatine together is what I meant. Obi-Wan likes fighting in teams (him and Qui-Gon, him and Anakin) so why not him and Yoda?

3. The Jedi going by themselves to arrest Sidious looked like some kind of Coup, probably did to people who heard about it. Having others around as witnesses would have made it look legit.

The other explanations helped, thank you *lex_4_president*

1. Boba Fett fights Mace Windu in Boba Fett book #6: Pursuit. The Book is in the EU and does give small spoilers for the movie.

2. Because if by fighting them individually the Jedi still have a measure of surprise. Palpatine can't warn Vader if he's already fighting one Jedi at the same time. Regardless, it had to happen that way for Obi-Wan. He would have always been weak to Anakin unless he faced Anakin and realized the man that he'd become.

3. The Jedi always handled Force matters privately, especially when the Dark Lord of the Sith has been manipulating them from the start. It would have looked bad and could have turned the people completely against the Jedi. Also, Palpatine had them manipulated into thinking he was a weak Sith in terms of fighting skills. So the Jedi probably believed they could just arrest him quickly and avoid any further public confrontations. Another possibility is simply rash action on the Jedi's part.

[fatty_acids]

Originally posted by Spanky
3. The Jedi always handled Force matters privately, especially when the Dark Lord of the Sith has been manipulating them from the start. It would have looked bad and could have turned the people completely against the Jedi. Also, Palpatine had them manipulated into thinking he was a weak Sith in terms of fighting skills. So the Jedi probably believed they could just arrest him quickly and avoid any further public confrontations. Another possibility is simply rash action on the Jedi's part.

i dunno...Anakin did tell Windu dat Palpatine is extremely powerful...

[Darth_Elvis]

Originally posted by Spanky
1. Boba Fett fights Mace Windu in Boba Fett book #6: Pursuit. The Book is in the EU and does give small spoilers for the movie.

2. Because if by fighting them individually the Jedi still have a measure of surprise. Palpatine can't warn Vader if he's already fighting one Jedi at the same time. Regardless, it had to happen that way for Obi-Wan. He would have always been weak to Anakin unless he faced Anakin and realized the man that he'd become.



#1. That pisses me off, they should have left that for the movie. I dunno what happend in the book but something like that should have been on screen.

#2. I didn't mean why did they fight individually, that's what they had to do. But AFTER they fought their battles individually, why not obi-wan and yoda vs. Palpatine by himself? Anakin was surely still weak, burn victims die all the time cuz of infections, he probably wouldn't have been able to do much.

#3. *Fatty_Acids* makes a good point in the previous point.

[Spanky]

1. The movie was already 2 1/2 hours long and the story is about Anakin and his turn to the Dark Side, not the minor character that Boba Fett is. And if you actually read the book, the story was told well.

2. Because at that point, Yoda realized they weren't ready to face the Sith. That's why Yoda backed out of the duel with Palpatine (Ref: SW EP3 book by Matthew Stover). Also at that point, Obi-Wan thought Anakin was dead. It shocked him to later learn he was alive. (Ref: SW: The Last of the Jedi)

3. Anakin didn't know about Palpintine's actual abilities though. He had yet to see him in action. He just knew that he was strong in the Force and that he was mentally powerful.

[Darth_Elvis]

1. I would have sat through another half-hour for Boba Fett scenes.

2. That's the problem, referencing books when they could/should have done all that stuff in the movie. I just don't want to look it up in a book, I wanted to see it on the screen.

3. Mace and the Jedi's goofed up in that scene. Did they talk to Yoda about confronting Palpatine, I don't remember??

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Darth_Elvis
1. I would have sat through another half-hour for Boba Fett scenes.

2. That's the problem, referencing books when they could/should have done all that stuff in the movie. I just don't want to look it up in a book, I wanted to see it on the screen.

3. Mace and the Jedi's goofed up in that scene. Did they talk to Yoda about confronting Palpatine, I don't remember??

1. Maybe so but the story isn't about him.
2. The book is based on the movie. Its like the book "Jurassic Park...its the movie with more details. If they tried to make a 400 page book into a complete movie it would have been a 6 hour movie.
3. Thats something evident in the movie..The Jedi made mistakes too. They weren;t perfect.

[The Kidd]

Originally posted by Darth_Elvis

3. Mace and the Jedi's goofed up in that scene. Did they talk to Yoda about confronting Palpatine, I don't remember??


Yoda was in Kashyyyk and by the time yoda would be able to do anything Palpatine would have gotten away

Mace and the other Jedi didnt have much of a choice

[HalJordan4184]

Besides, the council was hoping to find the sith lord, and arrest him. He didn't have to make a conference call across the galaxy to make sure it was okay if he did what the council had openly stated they wanted done. He's at the head of the council, with only yoda being wiser and more powerful. So why should he have to ask permission, to accomplish a time sensitive task?

[fatty_acids]

i dunno if any1s seen this, but it's pretty funny. basically it makes fun of the entire film. a satire type of thing.
heres part one(since it's too long to post the whole thing in 1 post)


FADE IN: EXT. SPACE

Two NOT-QUITE-TIE-FIGHTERS fly and zoom around, the camera chasing
wildly behind them in a way that only computer generated scenes can
show. We see that they have EWAN MCGREGOR and HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN in
them.

EWAN MCGREGOR
I can hardly tell who is shooting who in this dizzying space battle
sequence!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it's pretty confusing.

EWAN MCGREGOR
No, I mean literally dizzying!
(vomits)

They fly toward CHRISTOPHER LEE'S SHIP so they can rescue SUPREME
CHANCELLOR IAN MCDIARMID.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Oh no, the hangar has shields up!

HAYDEN shoots something next to the shield and they deactivate.

EWAN MCGREGOR
The thing that powers the shield is on the outside of the ship?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it's pretty stupid. It'd be like a life support system being in a
box on someone's chest.

They land inside the ship and TAKE SOME DROIDS TO SCHOOL.

EWAN MCGREGOR
I sure am enjoying the feeling of brotherly camaraderie between us.


HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it is nice. Seems like the sort of thing that should have been in
the last film. Oh well, at least there were scenes of me rolling around
in the grass.

They make their way toward CHRISTOPHER LEE and IAN MCDIARMID, using the
help of R2D2, who uses his rockets to fly again, in spite of everyone
trying so hard to forget that ever happened. They find IAN.

IAN MCDIARMID
Help me! I am trapped in a comfortable chair overlooking all of the
destruction I have wrought!

Suddenly, CHRISTOPHER LEE enters.

CHRISTOPHER LEE
I have been waiting a long time for a rematch. Now, you will have to
face a stunt double with my face pasted on!

They DUEL. CHRISTOPHER LEE easily dispatches EWAN. HAYDEN fights him and
eventually KILLS him.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
Wow, that was it for Christopher Lee, huh? Seems almost pointless to
have killed Darth Maul and introduced him in the first place.

HAYDEN, EWAN, and IAN all begin to leave, but they are CAPTURED and
brought before GENERAL GREVIOUS, A ROBOTIC SKELETON.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing)
I will now add your lightsabers to my collection of Star Wars
memorabilia.

He places them inside a VINTAGE 1970'S STAR WARS LUNCH BOX WITH THERMOS
NO RESERVE!!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Artoo, freak the hell obnoxiously!

He DOES. This distracts everyone long enough for EWAN to get his
LIGHTSABER back. There is a short battle in which an OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW
THAT GREVIOUS IS AS BADASS AS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE is missed.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing and wheezing)
I will run like a coward, further failing to illustrate how intimidating
my character is meant to be!

HAYDEN crashes the ship to the ground and SAVES EVERYONE. There is MILD
CELEBRATION followed by a cameo by NATALIE PORTMAN, the linchpin of
HAYDEN'S turn to the dark side.

NATALIE PORTMAN
(yawning)
Hayden, I'm pregnant.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
How can you be sure?

NATALIE PORTMAN
Because in a minute or two I'll actually be showing. Really.

We cut to HAYDEN having a nightmare about NATALIE giving birth to a
GUNGAN. NATALIE is visibly pregnant now in a single shot, the only
indicator at all that any time has passed since the previous scene.
Nothing happens for a while, and eventually HAYDEN seeks the advice of
IAN MCDIARMID.

INT. SOME WEIRD OPERA THING

IAN MCDIARMID
You seem worried about Natalie dying. Also, you're confused about being
a Jedi.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
They don't want me to fcuk Natalie Portman. That's insanity. Did you see
her in Closer? Holy fcuk.

IAN MCDIARMID
Did you know that those who embrace the Dark Side have a lot of powers
that Jedi do not? For example, they can influence that midichlorian
******** to create life.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Create life? Wait, are you implying that my supposed virgin birth was--

IAN MCDIARMID
And they can stop others from dying.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Stop others? Like, if someone force chokes them and they start to die
because of it hours later?

IAN MCDIARMID
Yup.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
That's distracting enough that I'll not bother following up on the other
thing you said.

Meanwhile...

EXT. KASHYYK

YODA leads an army of WOOKIEES to fight against DROIDS. The scene is
utterly superfluous and present solely to have a scene containing
WOOKIEES. It also serves to make the STAR WARS UNIVERSE seem even
smaller with more cameos by characters from the original trilogy.

CHEWBACCA
Nyaaarrrgghh.

EXT. UTAPAU

EWAN MCGREGOR finds out that GENERAL GREVIOUS is hiding on UTAPAU. He
jumps on a RIDICULOUSLY LOUD AND ANNOYING IGUANA.

IGUANA
Shriek! Shriek!

The IGUANA'S sounds are ear-piercing and awful, making the AUDIENCE
MISERABLE during any scene containing it. EWAN rides it up to GENERAL
GREVIOUS and challenges him.

EWAN MCGREGOR
I will attempt to destroy you now, without waiting for my support troops
to arrive.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing)
Are you serious? You've lost literally every single duel you've been a
part of except for the one with Darth Maul. Hayden constantly mentions
how many times he has saved you. What have you done in the entire
prequel trilogy so far to prove that you're actually a decent fighter?

EWAN MCGREGOR
Hey, I sorta beat Jango Fett. So, what's with the coughing, do droids
get colds or something?

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(wheezing)
Oh no, see, I'm a cyborg, not a droid. Check it out, I have an actual
beating heart.

EWAN shoots it and GREVIOUS'S HEAD explodes in a ball of fire.

EWAN MCGREGOR
That made sense.

INT. CORUSCANT

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN runs up to SAMUEL L. MOTHERFU C KING JACKSON

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Samuel, I rented the original Star Wars trilogy from Blockbuster. I'm
pretty sure Ian McDiarmid is a Sith Lord.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Then it's time to get medieval on some ass.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Let me come with you.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
No, go your room.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON and some OTHER JEDI go to see IAN.
Meanwhile HAYDEN stares out the window of the JEDI TEMPLE, toward
NATALIE PORTMAN'S APARTMENT. Though he says nothing, we can see that he
is conflicted, trying to decide between his commitment to the Jedi order
and his love for his wife. NATALIE, at the same time, gazes toward the
Jedi Temple, wondering what will happen to her husband.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
How pathetic is it that the best acted scene between us is the one in
which we are in separate buildings and have no lines?

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON enters IAN MCDIARMID'S CHAMBER.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Ian, you're under arrest for being a manipulative motherfcuker.

IAN MCDIARMID
I got a threshold, Jedi. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And
right now I'm a race car and you got me in the red. I'm just saying that
it's fukkin' dangerous to have a racecar in the fukkin' red. It could
blow.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Oh, you're gettin' ready to blow?

IAN MCDIARMID
I could blow.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Well I'm a mushroom-cloud-layin' motherfukker, motherfukker! Every time
my fingers touch my lightsaber I'm Superfly TNT. I'm the Guns of
Navarone.

Suddenly, IAN pulls out his LIGHTSABER. He moves toward the JEDI, pulls
his arm back, aims at a Jedi, kills him, pulls his blade out, moves
toward another, and slowly kills him too, all while SAMUEL L.
MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON twirls his lightsaber around pointlessly behind
them. Once only SAMUEL is left, they DUEL. IAN makes silly faces and is
eventually beaten. HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN arrives.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Let me read to you from the book of Ezekiel for a--

Suddenly, IAN unleashes some force lightning on SAMUEL, which he absorbs
into his lightsaber and somehow pushes back onto IAN, which causes him
to grow old, apprently.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Wow, you really can absorb force lightning with a lightsaber. Someone
really, really needs to tell Luke that. Anyway, Ian, I think Samuel is
about to rip you a new one, mind telling how to save Natalie real quick?

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Fcuk that, I'm killing this geezer now.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
You can't. He must stand trial. Killing him now would be.. er, well it
would be exactly the same as when I killed Christoper Lee in the
beginning of the movie.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
You're actually right, but I'm going to kill him anyway.

HAYDEN stops him and IAN throws him out the window, a fall which no
PARTIALLY ELECTROCUTED JEDI CAPABLE OF SUPER-JUMPING could possibly
survive.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
What have I done?
(pause)
I submit myself to your will, Ian.

IAN MCDIARMID
That was fast. Well, now that you have taken a single, somewhat
justifiable step toward the Dark Side, there's no turning back. Go kill
all of the Jedi in the temple, including the children.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Right, go kill the children. Got it.

IAN MCDIARMID
Well, kill everyone, not just--

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(leaving)
On my way to kill all of the children now! Whee!

He DOES. The CLONE TROOPERS kill most of the adult Jedi, while the
challenging task of murdering children can only be undertaken by the
DARK LORD OF THE SITH.

Part two

EXT. UTAPAU

IAN MCDIARMID appears in a HOLOGRAPH to one of the CLONE TROOPERS.

IAN MCDIARMID
Execute order 66.

CLONE TROOPER
Kill all shrieking CGI creatures.
(to his troops)
Alright men, shoot down the giant Iguana.

IAN MCDIARMID
Oh, and order 67.

CLONE TROOPER
Jedi, too. Got it.

They shoot at EWAN, who falls into the water.

CLONE TROOPER
He's dead. Nobody could have survived that fall. Except a Jedi, of
course.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Jesus, they've become really stupid. This movie really DOES bridge the
gap between the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy.

EXT. MYGEETO

Suddenly, all of the clone troopers turn against KI-ADI-MUNDI and shoot
him.

KI-ADI-MUNDI
Oh no, I'm being shot at less than when the Jedi had to fight all of the
droids at the end of Attack of the Clones! Somehow, they are
overpowering me, though!
(dies)

CLONE TROOPERS kill all remaining JEDI all over the galaxy. Meanwhile,
HAYDEN travels to MUSTAFAR to kill all of the separatists. JAR JAR,
sadly, is not one of them.

INT. NATALIE PORTMAN'S APARTMENT

EWAN arrives to talk to NATALIE.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Natalie, do you know where Hayden is? I just saw some security
recordings of the Jedi temple, and apparently also of Ian McDiarmid's
chamber afterwards. Or beforehand. Or an alternate universe, perhaps.
Anyway, he was killing children!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden? No! I refuse to entertain this notion and will dismiss your
concerns outright. Hayden would never kill children!
(pause)
Oh, wait, unless they were sandpeople. Then he would kill them. But he's
definitely not a murderer otherwise.

EWAN stows away on NATALIE'S SHIP as she FLIES to MUSTAFAR.

EXT. MUSTAFAR

NATALIE'S SHIP lands and she runs to HAYDEN.

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden! I heard you've gone toward the dark side! It's not true, is it?
Why are your eyes all red?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
You brought Ewan, didn't you? To actually act well and make me look
wooden and awful!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Of course not! I'm even worse than you in this movie, why would I bring
someone capable of acting well here?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(comically)
Liar!

He chokes her.

NATALIE PORTMAN
(collapsing)
Urk!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Oh baby, I'm sorry. I only force choke you because I love you. Come back
to me baby.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Hayden! I know you're not really evil - you try to look evil by
glowering everywhere, but you really just wind up looking confused all
the time! Come back to the Jedi order!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
From my point of view, the Jedi are stupid! I mean, really stupid! They
didn't know I was married to Natalie, which Ian figured out in seconds.
They didn't know Ian was a Sith. They asked me to get close to him,
knowing full well I am confused
and that he's manipulative. God, the assassin from Attack of the Clones
allegedly couldn't be sent by Christopher Lee because "it's not in his
character." Face it, it's a miracle the Jedi survived this long.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Anti-Jedite!

They DUEL. Then they DUEL some more. Afterwards, they do some more
DUELLING. Then there's another DUEL, a little DUELLING, and finally a
DUEL.

EWAN MCGREGOR
It's over, Hayden. If you jump over to me, I will cut your **** off.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
You underestimate my power to decide not to jump to the low ground in
front of you where I will be able to safely continue duelling, but to
instead try to jump all the way over you and get my **** cut off!

He JUMPS and gets SLICED AND DICED. Then COMPLETELY BURNED.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Mother####er!

EWAN MCGREGOR
I'm leaving, Hayden! Even though you are writhing in agony, I won't do
the humane thing and put you out of your misery. You're the dick,
though.

He leaves. IAN arrives shortly after.

IAN MCDIARMID
Take him back to Coruscant so we can put him in the big black life
support suit that I just so happen to have laying around for just such
an occasion.

They DO.

INT. POLIS MASSA HOSPITAL ROOM

A CGI MEDICAL DROID is delivering NATALIE'S CHILDREN. Another CGI DROID
talks to EWAN and JIMMY SMITS.

JIMMY SMITS
Jesus, not every scene needs some digital character in them. She's
giving birth, can't we leave at least a FEW frames of the film free from
CGI ********? Hell, Ewan chould have delivered the twins, that would be
more dramatic.

DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS
More what?

MEDICAL DROID
She's dying. She has given up the will to live.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Given up the will to live? She does know she has two brand new babies to
live for, doesn't she?

NATALIE has her twins, the order of which creates a completely
unnecessary continuity error for no reason other than the fact that
DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS must really enjoy watching his obsessive fans
rationalize obvious flaws. She DIES.

INT. ALDERAAN CRUISER

YODA, EWAN, and JIMMY discuss what to do with A NEW HOPE.

JIMMY SMITS
I will take the girl. Hey Ewan, if you know about Leia, how come you
refer to Luke as your last hope in Empire Strikes Back?

EWAN MCGREGOR
I know about Leia, but Alec Guiness doesn't.

YODA
Oh, that reminds me! Speaking of justifying obvious dialogue blunders
created by the fact that George Lucas didn't actually have all six films
firmly in his mind when he was making any given one, I need to train you
how to be a force ghost so you can explain to Luke how Vader killed his
father.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Where should we keep him in the mean time?

YODA
Take him to his family on Tatooine.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Wait, really? You mean, to hide him from Hayden and Ian, we're going to
allow him to keep the last name Skywalker, bring him to Hayden's birth
planet, and put him in the care of his actual relatives? It would take
like an hour of research to track him down if the Empire wanted him.

YODA
Well, go watch over him from really far away to make sure he's safe.

INT. CORUSCANT IMPERIAL REHAB CENTER

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN, in full suit, is situated upright.

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Where's Natalie Portman? Suddenly I am worried about her again.

IAN MCDIARMID
It seems that in your overacting, you killed her.

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Wow, you'd think that would really make me see the error of the Dark
Side, realize the Jedi were right all along, and kill you right now. Ah
well.

IAN MCDIARMID
So, now that the movie is over, would you say that the prequel trilogy
was worth making?

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

END

[TMLS' BROTHER]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[snaps]

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Samuel, I rented the original Star Wars trilogy from Blockbuster. I'm
pretty sure Ian McDiarmid is a Sith Lord.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Then it's time to get medieval on some ass.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Let me come with you.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
No, go your room.


:lol: :lol: :rotfl:

[Darth_Elvis]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Besides, the council was hoping to find the sith lord, and arrest him. He didn't have to make a conference call across the galaxy to make sure it was okay if he did what the council had openly stated they wanted done. He's at the head of the council, with only yoda being wiser and more powerful. So why should he have to ask permission, to accomplish a time sensitive task?

Not to ask his permission, but to get his thoughts on what to do. Yoda must've encountered a Sith or two in his time.

[vegeta]

does anyone think this movie should had been rated pg ?

[Summers]

Um, no. IMO PG-13 was perfect because there are intense things in that movie.

[vegeta]

The last movie samuel L Jackson beheaded jango fett and anakin lost his arm and that movie got a pg.

[Summers]

Yea, but here we got:
-younglings killed
-other murders from Mace to other innocents
-beheading of Dooko
-Anakin losing his arms and legs. Then being burned
-seeing him operated on
-seeing Anakin basically doing spouse abuse to Padma
-Padma dying

There was a lot for little ones to see. It was far more intense than what happened in other films. Jedi and Empire come really close though.

[fatty_acids]

Originally posted by fatty_acids
Part one

FADE IN: EXT. SPACE

Two NOT-QUITE-TIE-FIGHTERS fly and zoom around, the camera chasing
wildly behind them in a way that only computer generated scenes can
show. We see that they have EWAN MCGREGOR and HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN in
them.

EWAN MCGREGOR
I can hardly tell who is shooting who in this dizzying space battle
sequence!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it's pretty confusing.

EWAN MCGREGOR
No, I mean literally dizzying!
(vomits)

They fly toward CHRISTOPHER LEE'S SHIP so they can rescue SUPREME
CHANCELLOR IAN MCDIARMID.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Oh no, the hangar has shields up!

HAYDEN shoots something next to the shield and they deactivate.

EWAN MCGREGOR
The thing that powers the shield is on the outside of the ship?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it's pretty stupid. It'd be like a life support system being in a
box on someone's chest.

They land inside the ship and TAKE SOME DROIDS TO SCHOOL.

EWAN MCGREGOR
I sure am enjoying the feeling of brotherly camaraderie between us.


HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it is nice. Seems like the sort of thing that should have been in
the last film. Oh well, at least there were scenes of me rolling around
in the grass.

They make their way toward CHRISTOPHER LEE and IAN MCDIARMID, using the
help of R2D2, who uses his rockets to fly again, in spite of everyone
trying so hard to forget that ever happened. They find IAN.

IAN MCDIARMID
Help me! I am trapped in a comfortable chair overlooking all of the
destruction I have wrought!

Suddenly, CHRISTOPHER LEE enters.

CHRISTOPHER LEE
I have been waiting a long time for a rematch. Now, you will have to
face a stunt double with my face pasted on!

They DUEL. CHRISTOPHER LEE easily dispatches EWAN. HAYDEN fights him and
eventually KILLS him.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
Wow, that was it for Christopher Lee, huh? Seems almost pointless to
have killed Darth Maul and introduced him in the first place.

HAYDEN, EWAN, and IAN all begin to leave, but they are CAPTURED and
brought before GENERAL GREVIOUS, A ROBOTIC SKELETON.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing)
I will now add your lightsabers to my collection of Star Wars
memorabilia.

He places them inside a VINTAGE 1970'S STAR WARS LUNCH BOX WITH THERMOS
NO RESERVE!!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Artoo, freak the hell obnoxiously!

He DOES. This distracts everyone long enough for EWAN to get his
LIGHTSABER back. There is a short battle in which an OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW
THAT GREVIOUS IS AS BADASS AS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE is missed.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing and wheezing)
I will run like a coward, further failing to illustrate how intimidating
my character is meant to be!

HAYDEN crashes the ship to the ground and SAVES EVERYONE. There is MILD
CELEBRATION followed by a cameo by NATALIE PORTMAN, the linchpin of
HAYDEN'S turn to the dark side.

NATALIE PORTMAN
(yawning)
Hayden, I'm pregnant.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
How can you be sure?

NATALIE PORTMAN
Because in a minute or two I'll actually be showing. Really.

We cut to HAYDEN having a nightmare about NATALIE giving birth to a
GUNGAN. NATALIE is visibly pregnant now in a single shot, the only
indicator at all that any time has passed since the previous scene.
Nothing happens for a while, and eventually HAYDEN seeks the advice of
IAN MCDIARMID.

INT. SOME WEIRD OPERA THING

IAN MCDIARMID
You seem worried about Natalie dying. Also, you're confused about being
a Jedi.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
They don't want me to fcuk Natalie Portman. That's insanity. Did you see
her in Closer? Holy fcuk.

IAN MCDIARMID
Did you know that those who embrace the Dark Side have a lot of powers
that Jedi do not? For example, they can influence that midichlorian
******** to create life.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Create life? Wait, are you implying that my supposed virgin birth was--

IAN MCDIARMID
And they can stop others from dying.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Stop others? Like, if someone force chokes them and they start to die
because of it hours later?

IAN MCDIARMID
Yup.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
That's distracting enough that I'll not bother following up on the other
thing you said.

Meanwhile...

EXT. KASHYYK

YODA leads an army of WOOKIEES to fight against DROIDS. The scene is
utterly superfluous and present solely to have a scene containing
WOOKIEES. It also serves to make the STAR WARS UNIVERSE seem even
smaller with more cameos by characters from the original trilogy.

CHEWBACCA
Nyaaarrrgghh.

EXT. UTAPAU

EWAN MCGREGOR finds out that GENERAL GREVIOUS is hiding on UTAPAU. He
jumps on a RIDICULOUSLY LOUD AND ANNOYING IGUANA.

IGUANA
Shriek! Shriek!

The IGUANA'S sounds are ear-piercing and awful, making the AUDIENCE
MISERABLE during any scene containing it. EWAN rides it up to GENERAL
GREVIOUS and challenges him.

EWAN MCGREGOR
I will attempt to destroy you now, without waiting for my support troops
to arrive.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing)
Are you serious? You've lost literally every single duel you've been a
part of except for the one with Darth Maul. Hayden constantly mentions
how many times he has saved you. What have you done in the entire
prequel trilogy so far to prove that you're actually a decent fighter?

EWAN MCGREGOR
Hey, I sorta beat Jango Fett. So, what's with the coughing, do droids
get colds or something?

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(wheezing)
Oh no, see, I'm a cyborg, not a droid. Check it out, I have an actual
beating heart.

EWAN shoots it and GREVIOUS'S HEAD explodes in a ball of fire.

EWAN MCGREGOR
That made sense.

INT. CORUSCANT

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN runs up to SAMUEL L. MOTHERFU C KING JACKSON

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Samuel, I rented the original Star Wars trilogy from Blockbuster. I'm
pretty sure Ian McDiarmid is a Sith Lord.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Then it's time to get medieval on some ass.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Let me come with you.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
No, go your room.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON and some OTHER JEDI go to see IAN.
Meanwhile HAYDEN stares out the window of the JEDI TEMPLE, toward
NATALIE PORTMAN'S APARTMENT. Though he says nothing, we can see that he
is conflicted, trying to decide between his commitment to the Jedi order
and his love for his wife. NATALIE, at the same time, gazes toward the
Jedi Temple, wondering what will happen to her husband.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
How pathetic is it that the best acted scene between us is the one in
which we are in separate buildings and have no lines?

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON enters IAN MCDIARMID'S CHAMBER.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Ian, you're under arrest for being a manipulative motherfcuker.

IAN MCDIARMID
I got a threshold, Jedi. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And
right now I'm a race car and you got me in the red. I'm just saying that
it's fukkin' dangerous to have a racecar in the fukkin' red. It could
blow.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Oh, you're gettin' ready to blow?

IAN MCDIARMID
I could blow.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Well I'm a mushroom-cloud-layin' motherfukker, motherfukker! Every time
my fingers touch my lightsaber I'm Superfly TNT. I'm the Guns of
Navarone.

Suddenly, IAN pulls out his LIGHTSABER. He moves toward the JEDI, pulls
his arm back, aims at a Jedi, kills him, pulls his blade out, moves
toward another, and slowly kills him too, all while SAMUEL L.
MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON twirls his lightsaber around pointlessly behind
them. Once only SAMUEL is left, they DUEL. IAN makes silly faces and is
eventually beaten. HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN arrives.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Let me read to you from the book of Ezekiel for a--

Suddenly, IAN unleashes some force lightning on SAMUEL, which he absorbs
into his lightsaber and somehow pushes back onto IAN, which causes him
to grow old, apprently.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Wow, you really can absorb force lightning with a lightsaber. Someone
really, really needs to tell Luke that. Anyway, Ian, I think Samuel is
about to rip you a new one, mind telling how to save Natalie real quick?

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
Fcuk that, I'm killing this geezer now.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
You can't. He must stand trial. Killing him now would be.. er, well it
would be exactly the same as when I killed Christoper Lee in the
beginning of the movie.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERF U C KING JACKSON
You're actually right, but I'm going to kill him anyway.

HAYDEN stops him and IAN throws him out the window, a fall which no
PARTIALLY ELECTROCUTED JEDI CAPABLE OF SUPER-JUMPING could possibly
survive.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
What have I done?
(pause)
I submit myself to your will, Ian.

IAN MCDIARMID
That was fast. Well, now that you have taken a single, somewhat
justifiable step toward the Dark Side, there's no turning back. Go kill
all of the Jedi in the temple, including the children.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Right, go kill the children. Got it.

IAN MCDIARMID
Well, kill everyone, not just--

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(leaving)
On my way to kill all of the children now! Whee!

He DOES. The CLONE TROOPERS kill most of the adult Jedi, while the
challenging task of murdering children can only be undertaken by the
DARK LORD OF THE SITH.

part2

Part two

EXT. UTAPAU

IAN MCDIARMID appears in a HOLOGRAPH to one of the CLONE TROOPERS.

IAN MCDIARMID
Execute order 66.

CLONE TROOPER
Kill all shrieking CGI creatures.
(to his troops)
Alright men, shoot down the giant Iguana.

IAN MCDIARMID
Oh, and order 67.

CLONE TROOPER
Jedi, too. Got it.

They shoot at EWAN, who falls into the water.

CLONE TROOPER
He's dead. Nobody could have survived that fall. Except a Jedi, of
course.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Jesus, they've become really stupid. This movie really DOES bridge the
gap between the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy.

EXT. MYGEETO

Suddenly, all of the clone troopers turn against KI-ADI-MUNDI and shoot
him.

KI-ADI-MUNDI
Oh no, I'm being shot at less than when the Jedi had to fight all of the
droids at the end of Attack of the Clones! Somehow, they are
overpowering me, though!
(dies)

CLONE TROOPERS kill all remaining JEDI all over the galaxy. Meanwhile,
HAYDEN travels to MUSTAFAR to kill all of the separatists. JAR JAR,
sadly, is not one of them.

INT. NATALIE PORTMAN'S APARTMENT

EWAN arrives to talk to NATALIE.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Natalie, do you know where Hayden is? I just saw some security
recordings of the Jedi temple, and apparently also of Ian McDiarmid's
chamber afterwards. Or beforehand. Or an alternate universe, perhaps.
Anyway, he was killing children!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden? No! I refuse to entertain this notion and will dismiss your
concerns outright. Hayden would never kill children!
(pause)
Oh, wait, unless they were sandpeople. Then he would kill them. But he's
definitely not a murderer otherwise.

EWAN stows away on NATALIE'S SHIP as she FLIES to MUSTAFAR.

EXT. MUSTAFAR

NATALIE'S SHIP lands and she runs to HAYDEN.

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden! I heard you've gone toward the dark side! It's not true, is it?
Why are your eyes all red?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
You brought Ewan, didn't you? To actually act well and make me look
wooden and awful!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Of course not! I'm even worse than you in this movie, why would I bring
someone capable of acting well here?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(comically)
Liar!

He chokes her.

NATALIE PORTMAN
(collapsing)
Urk!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Oh baby, I'm sorry. I only force choke you because I love you. Come back
to me baby.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Hayden! I know you're not really evil - you try to look evil by
glowering everywhere, but you really just wind up looking confused all
the time! Come back to the Jedi order!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
From my point of view, the Jedi are stupid! I mean, really stupid! They
didn't know I was married to Natalie, which Ian figured out in seconds.
They didn't know Ian was a Sith. They asked me to get close to him,
knowing full well I am confused
and that he's manipulative. God, the assassin from Attack of the Clones
allegedly couldn't be sent by Christopher Lee because "it's not in his
character." Face it, it's a miracle the Jedi survived this long.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Anti-Jedite!

They DUEL. Then they DUEL some more. Afterwards, they do some more
DUELLING. Then there's another DUEL, a little DUELLING, and finally a
DUEL.

EWAN MCGREGOR
It's over, Hayden. If you jump over to me, I will cut your **** off.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
You underestimate my power to decide not to jump to the low ground in
front of you where I will be able to safely continue duelling, but to
instead try to jump all the way over you and get my **** cut off!

He JUMPS and gets SLICED AND DICED. Then COMPLETELY BURNED.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Mother####er!

EWAN MCGREGOR
I'm leaving, Hayden! Even though you are writhing in agony, I won't do
the humane thing and put you out of your misery. You're the dick,
though.

He leaves. IAN arrives shortly after.

IAN MCDIARMID
Take him back to Coruscant so we can put him in the big black life
support suit that I just so happen to have laying around for just such
an occasion.

They DO.

INT. POLIS MASSA HOSPITAL ROOM

A CGI MEDICAL DROID is delivering NATALIE'S CHILDREN. Another CGI DROID
talks to EWAN and JIMMY SMITS.

JIMMY SMITS
Jesus, not every scene needs some digital character in them. She's
giving birth, can't we leave at least a FEW frames of the film free from
CGI ********? Hell, Ewan chould have delivered the twins, that would be
more dramatic.

DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS
More what?

MEDICAL DROID
She's dying. She has given up the will to live.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Given up the will to live? She does know she has two brand new babies to
live for, doesn't she?

NATALIE has her twins, the order of which creates a completely
unnecessary continuity error for no reason other than the fact that
DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS must really enjoy watching his obsessive fans
rationalize obvious flaws. She DIES.

INT. ALDERAAN CRUISER

YODA, EWAN, and JIMMY discuss what to do with A NEW HOPE.

JIMMY SMITS
I will take the girl. Hey Ewan, if you know about Leia, how come you
refer to Luke as your last hope in Empire Strikes Back?

EWAN MCGREGOR
I know about Leia, but Alec Guiness doesn't.

YODA
Oh, that reminds me! Speaking of justifying obvious dialogue blunders
created by the fact that George Lucas didn't actually have all six films
firmly in his mind when he was making any given one, I need to train you
how to be a force ghost so you can explain to Luke how Vader killed his
father.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Where should we keep him in the mean time?

YODA
Take him to his family on Tatooine.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Wait, really? You mean, to hide him from Hayden and Ian, we're going to
allow him to keep the last name Skywalker, bring him to Hayden's birth
planet, and put him in the care of his actual relatives? It would take
like an hour of research to track him down if the Empire wanted him.

YODA
Well, go watch over him from really far away to make sure he's safe.

INT. CORUSCANT IMPERIAL REHAB CENTER

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN, in full suit, is situated upright.

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Where's Natalie Portman? Suddenly I am worried about her again.

IAN MCDIARMID
It seems that in your overacting, you killed her.

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Wow, you'd think that would really make me see the error of the Dark

Side, realize the Jedi were right all along, and kill you right now. Ah
well.

IAN MCDIARMID
So, now that the movie is over, would you say that the prequel trilogy
was worth making?

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

END

u all have to read this

[VersesBatman]

Here's an article that might interest all of you. It's a Atar Wars vs. Star Trek debate.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600138723,00.html

[Summers]

I saw on the USA network there will be a tribute to George Lucas starting next Monday from Star Wars to Indy.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Love all the footage they play attached to. Some of the best lines in Lucas' movies.

[VersesBatman]

It's funny, the morning show I listen to, like to play Darth Vader's "Nooooooooooooooooo!" every chance they get.


Originally posted by fatty_acids
part2

Part two

EXT. UTAPAU

IAN MCDIARMID appears in a HOLOGRAPH to one of the CLONE TROOPERS.

IAN MCDIARMID
Execute order 66.

CLONE TROOPER
Kill all shrieking CGI creatures.
(to his troops)
Alright men, shoot down the giant Iguana.

IAN MCDIARMID
Oh, and order 67.

CLONE TROOPER
Jedi, too. Got it.

They shoot at EWAN, who falls into the water.

CLONE TROOPER
He's dead. Nobody could have survived that fall. Except a Jedi, of
course.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Jesus, they've become really stupid. This movie really DOES bridge the
gap between the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy.

EXT. MYGEETO

Suddenly, all of the clone troopers turn against KI-ADI-MUNDI and shoot
him.

KI-ADI-MUNDI
Oh no, I'm being shot at less than when the Jedi had to fight all of the
droids at the end of Attack of the Clones! Somehow, they are
overpowering me, though!
(dies)

CLONE TROOPERS kill all remaining JEDI all over the galaxy. Meanwhile,
HAYDEN travels to MUSTAFAR to kill all of the separatists. JAR JAR,
sadly, is not one of them.

INT. NATALIE PORTMAN'S APARTMENT

EWAN arrives to talk to NATALIE.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Natalie, do you know where Hayden is? I just saw some security
recordings of the Jedi temple, and apparently also of Ian McDiarmid's
chamber afterwards. Or beforehand. Or an alternate universe, perhaps.
Anyway, he was killing children!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden? No! I refuse to entertain this notion and will dismiss your
concerns outright. Hayden would never kill children!
(pause)
Oh, wait, unless they were sandpeople. Then he would kill them. But he's
definitely not a murderer otherwise.

EWAN stows away on NATALIE'S SHIP as she FLIES to MUSTAFAR.

EXT. MUSTAFAR

NATALIE'S SHIP lands and she runs to HAYDEN.

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden! I heard you've gone toward the dark side! It's not true, is it?
Why are your eyes all red?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
You brought Ewan, didn't you? To actually act well and make me look
wooden and awful!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Of course not! I'm even worse than you in this movie, why would I bring
someone capable of acting well here?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(comically)
Liar!

He chokes her.

NATALIE PORTMAN
(collapsing)
Urk!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Oh baby, I'm sorry. I only force choke you because I love you. Come back
to me baby.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Hayden! I know you're not really evil - you try to look evil by
glowering everywhere, but you really just wind up looking confused all
the time! Come back to the Jedi order!

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
From my point of view, the Jedi are stupid! I mean, really stupid! They
didn't know I was married to Natalie, which Ian figured out in seconds.
They didn't know Ian was a Sith. They asked me to get close to him,
knowing full well I am confused
and that he's manipulative. God, the assassin from Attack of the Clones
allegedly couldn't be sent by Christopher Lee because "it's not in his
character." Face it, it's a miracle the Jedi survived this long.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Anti-Jedite!

They DUEL. Then they DUEL some more. Afterwards, they do some more
DUELLING. Then there's another DUEL, a little DUELLING, and finally a
DUEL.

EWAN MCGREGOR
It's over, Hayden. If you jump over to me, I will cut your **** off.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
You underestimate my power to decide not to jump to the low ground in
front of you where I will be able to safely continue duelling, but to
instead try to jump all the way over you and get my **** cut off!

He JUMPS and gets SLICED AND DICED. Then COMPLETELY BURNED.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Mother####er!

EWAN MCGREGOR
I'm leaving, Hayden! Even though you are writhing in agony, I won't do
the humane thing and put you out of your misery. You're the dick,
though.

He leaves. IAN arrives shortly after.

IAN MCDIARMID
Take him back to Coruscant so we can put him in the big black life
support suit that I just so happen to have laying around for just such
an occasion.

They DO.

INT. POLIS MASSA HOSPITAL ROOM

A CGI MEDICAL DROID is delivering NATALIE'S CHILDREN. Another CGI DROID
talks to EWAN and JIMMY SMITS.

JIMMY SMITS
Jesus, not every scene needs some digital character in them. She's
giving birth, can't we leave at least a FEW frames of the film free from
CGI ********? Hell, Ewan chould have delivered the twins, that would be
more dramatic.

DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS
More what?

MEDICAL DROID
She's dying. She has given up the will to live.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Given up the will to live? She does know she has two brand new babies to
live for, doesn't she?

NATALIE has her twins, the order of which creates a completely
unnecessary continuity error for no reason other than the fact that
DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS must really enjoy watching his obsessive fans
rationalize obvious flaws. She DIES.

INT. ALDERAAN CRUISER

YODA, EWAN, and JIMMY discuss what to do with A NEW HOPE.

JIMMY SMITS
I will take the girl. Hey Ewan, if you know about Leia, how come you
refer to Luke as your last hope in Empire Strikes Back?

EWAN MCGREGOR
I know about Leia, but Alec Guiness doesn't.

YODA
Oh, that reminds me! Speaking of justifying obvious dialogue blunders
created by the fact that George Lucas didn't actually have all six films
firmly in his mind when he was making any given one, I need to train you
how to be a force ghost so you can explain to Luke how Vader killed his
father.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Where should we keep him in the mean time?

YODA
Take him to his family on Tatooine.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Wait, really? You mean, to hide him from Hayden and Ian, we're going to
allow him to keep the last name Skywalker, bring him to Hayden's birth
planet, and put him in the care of his actual relatives? It would take
like an hour of research to track him down if the Empire wanted him.

YODA
Well, go watch over him from really far away to make sure he's safe.

INT. CORUSCANT IMPERIAL REHAB CENTER

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN, in full suit, is situated upright.

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Where's Natalie Portman? Suddenly I am worried about her again.

IAN MCDIARMID
It seems that in your overacting, you killed her.

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Wow, you'd think that would really make me see the error of the Dark

Side, realize the Jedi were right all along, and kill you right now. Ah
well.

IAN MCDIARMID
So, now that the movie is over, would you say that the prequel trilogy
was worth making?

DARTH HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

END

u all have to read this
Funny stuff! I never liked that screeching iguana.

[Darth_Elvis]

That satire is hilarious, it even made fun of stuff that I didn't notice in the movie. George Lucas is horrible.

[fatty_acids]

i loved this line

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
How pathetic is it that the best acted scene between us is the one in
which we are in separate buildings and have no lines?

[lex_4_president]

Star Wars Mythmaking Behind the scenes of Attack of the Clones
by Jody Duncan

Let me quote:
"One of the most intensely romantic scenes at the retreat [Naboo Lake Retreat] finds Anakin and Padme sitting together in an intimate alcove, in front of a fire. There, in the firelight, they talk about their growing feelings for each other and the seeming impossibility of their sharing a life together. The scene typified the script's old-fashioned style. "Let's face it" Lucas admitted, "their dialogue in that scene is pretty corny. It is presented very honestly, it isn't tongue-in-cheek at all, and it's really played to the hilt. But it is consistent not only with the rest of this movie, but with the overall STAR WARS style. Most people don't understand the style of STAR WARS. They don't get that there is an underlying motif that is very much like a nineteen thirties western or Saturday matinee serial. It's in that more romantic period of making movies and adventure films. And this film is even more of a melodrama than the others."
That melodramatic style placed an additional acting burden on Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman, who had to convey sincerity at the core of the stylized dialogue. "When I first read the script," Christensen commented, "a lot of the dilaogue felt contrived and forced, and I was like, 'Oh, there's no way that's going to work.' But there is a way of speaking in the STAR WARS universe, and it is acceptable because it is another galaxy, far, far away. Even though the themes are relevant to today, some of the dialogue is not-it's not supposed to be."
Page 91

~you can extend this same thought process to Episode III. It was written how it was written-ON PURPOSE.

[VersesBatman]

No matter how many times I hear Darth Vader's "Noooooooooo", it still cracks me up.

[sstray72]

I'm not sure if you guys have seen these yet, but I just saw these and theyre cool.

http://padme.ytmnd.com/
http://vaderremix.ytmnd.com/

[The Kidd]

LOL!!!

[fatty_acids]

here are some funny quotes from ROTS i read in the paper. They replaced certain words with the word "pants". its pretty funny.

"Pants me, Ani! Pants me, like you did by the lake on Naboo!" ~ Padme

"You have pants, but you don't use them." ~ Count Dooku

"He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his pants, which eventually, of coursse, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice pantsed him in his sleep." ~ Palpatine (hahaah...i laffin at this one)

Palpatine: Are you goin to pants me?
Anakin: I would certainly like to.

"Pants! Unlimited pants!" ~ Darth Sidious

"Into pants, i must go. Failed, i have." ~ Yoda

edit: heres more

"Don't lecture me, Obi-Wan. i see through the pants of the Jedi." ~ Anakin

"Be Thankful, Viceroy, you have not found yourself in my pants." ~ Gen. Grievous

"Don't make me pants you." ~ Anakin

"Faith in you new pants misplaced may be" ~ Yoda

Senator Bail Organa: Were you able to get ahold of the Jedi homing beacon?
Captain Antilles: Yes, sir. We've encountered no opposition. The clones are still a bit confused. It appears no one is in pants.

[VersesBatman]

:lol:

[snaps]

:rotfl:

[snaps]

my sisters just got back from their hoilday in florida ..and guess what my pressie was ...

.....MICEKY MOUSE JEDI ......hes too cool:D :cool:

[Shinzon2004]

Ok,now that must of us had seen the movie,Episode III,when do you think its going to be available in the DVD format?

And most important:what kind of extras are we going to get?
Anyway I want to think that Episode III is the best movie of the entire prequel saga,followed by Episode II,Return of the Jedi and Episode V.So anyway when do you think its going to be available
on the DVD market?

Thanks Lucas for Episode III!It rocked!

[snaps]

i would reckon it will be out before the x-mas pressie buying season.....

[Summers]

So many dvd goodies this x-mas :D

[VersesBatman]

My local movie critic suggested it would be cool to make a live action version of "Clone Wars". What do you think?

[snaps]

it would be ....the action would be better than the cartoon version but the jedi wouldnt be able to nearly fly in the live action ( when obi wan drove up the side of the building then jumped from the bike to the top of the building)

[Summers]

I dont know. I would watch it. For me personally, I'm bias to a tv show that centers on the third generation of the saga dealing with The New Jedi Order. But that's just me.

[snaps]

i would still watch it ......but i would hope they would sick to the starwars world ...as those ewok eating giants in the ewok dvd caravan of courage were a bit far fetched

[Summers]

Revenge of the Sith is schedule to come out on dvd on November 8th :D.

[VersesBatman]

Oh boy! I'm getting that!

[Summers]

I wish the article had special features on it as well. I love this movie.

[VersesBatman]

It's best of the new trilogy.

:lol: My husband thinks I'm weird for making fun of Darth Vader's "Noooooooooo!"

[Summers]

:lol: My brother loves this movie, but he even laughs at that part.

I agree its the best of the new trilogy. Its just that one scene with Padma I dont agree it is all.

[VersesBatman]

"She lost the will to live"

I didn't like that either.

[Summers]

That's the one. It was great up to there. Why couldnt Lucas let her die from something physical, and do a C-section on the Skywalker twins?

[VersesBatman]

That would have been better. He probably didn't think how lame that looked.

[Kal-El's Girl]

I'm soooo getting Revenge of the Sith on dvd!! I saw it last night and it was great!! Padame and Anakin scenes were great. This is the first of the trilogy that I have seen and I love it. I guess that I have to watch the others now. I felt for Padame when she told Anakin that he was breaking her heart. :( I'm still talking about it. hehe It was really good. I can't wait until November 8th!!

[VersesBatman]

My brother is so funny. He actually incorporated Napolean Dynamite dialoge into ROTS.

[Summers]

Special features on RoTS dvd:


The epic intergalactic adventure of the "Star Wars" saga is finally complete, and audiences can celebrate the unforgettable fun and thrills of Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith when the year's biggest box-office hit debuts Nov. 1 from Fox Home Entertainment and Lucasfilm Ltd. The simultaneous release of "Star Wars Battlefront II," the sequel to the best-selling "Star Wars" video game of all time, makes Nov. 1 a milestone day in "Star Wars" history.

The two-disc "Revenge of the Sith" DVD will include a brand-new, full-length documentary produced by Lucasfilm Ltd.; two new featurettes -- one exploring the prophecy of Anakin Skywalker as the Chosen One, the other providing an in-depth look at the movie's eye-popping stunts; and a 15-part collection of Lucasfilm's groundbreaking "web documentaries."

"'Revenge of the Sith' gave audiences an extraordinary experience, and we want this DVD to do the same," said Jim Ward, Vice President of Marketing and Distribution for Lucasfilm Ltd. "From the beginning of production, George wanted to be sure we chronicled everything that went into the making of Episode III specifically to create an incredible DVD experience. This DVD has literally been three years in the making, and it's going to be a fantastic way to complete the 'Star Wars' saga at home."

Adding to the in-home "Star Wars" adventure is the release on Nov. 1 of the eagerly anticipated "Star Wars Battlefront II" from LucasArts -- the sequel to the best-selling "Star Wars" video game of all time. "Star Wars Battlefront II" adds all-new space combat, playable Jedi characters, and never-before-seen environments straight out of Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith. The game will be released for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system, Xbox® video game system from Microsoft, Windows platforms, and Sony PSP(TM). Fans of the original "Star Wars Battlefront" will also enjoy an all-new single-player experience that takes players through an epic, story-based saga centering on Darth Vader's elite 501st Legion of Stormtroopers, where every action the player takes impacts the battlefront and, ultimately, the fate of the "Star Wars" galaxy.

The "Revenge of the Sith" DVD will offer access to a special Xbox-playable demo of two entire levels from LucasArts' "Star Wars Battlefront II."

"The combination of 'Revenge of the Sith' on DVD and 'Star Wars Battlefront II' makes Nov. 1 a watershed day for 'Star Wars' fans. It's really going to be a terrific celebration of the entire saga," Ward said.

In addition to its debut in the U.S. and Canada, "Revenge of the Sith" debuts on DVD in most major territories around the world on or about the same day.

The DVD release of Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith marks the first time that fans can own all six episodes of the saga. "After seeing 'Revenge of the Sith', moviegoers around the world told us that they immediately wanted to watch Episode IV to see how the entire saga comes together, and now they'll be able to do just that, making the 'Star Wars' experience richer and more exciting than ever," Ward said.

In "Revenge of the Sith," the Clone Wars rage, widening the rift between Chancellor Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) and the Jedi Council. Young Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) is caught in the middle, his allegiances torn. Seduced by promises of power and temptations of the dark side, he pledges himself to evil Darth Sidious, becoming Darth Vader. Together, the Sith Lords set in motion a plot of revenge against the Jedi. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor) tries to turn Anakin back to the light side, leading to a climactic lightsaber battle that will decide the fate of the galaxy.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10535

[snaps]

cannot wait for this dvd it is one i will buy day of release:cool:

[Summers]

ROTS has moved up a date for its release of the dvd. It will now be released on November 1st instead of Nov.8th. :D

http://www.theforce.net/topstory/story/ROTS_DVD_Release_Date_93929.asp