Teen Wolf (MTV)

[manoftommrow79]

Now i've got another reason to watch UPN again (before because of Buffy the Vampire Slayer).Now there is going to be a tv series based on the movie Teen Wolf.I've got the movie on dvd and sequel ,and Michael J. Fox was my Idol growing up as a kid I looked up to him alot. Does anyone know any news about the new series,when the pilot will air,and if Michael will have anything to do with the series.

[Supernatural Hero]

Michael J. Fox was my favorite actor too! Because of Teen Wolf and the Back to the Future series. Now it's Michael T. Weiss.

[nexgod]

hes one of my favourite actors as well

[Mischievious]

Has there been any new developments to this?? It sounds kinda lame if you ask me. I've always had a place in my heart for the original Teen Wolf movie. Teen Wolf Too and the animated Teen Wolf cartoon kinda sucked in my opinion!

[KSiteTV]

I haven't heard anything at all since getting the quote from Jeph Loeb about it... I'm kind of excited about the idea though :)

[Big Albowski]

When I heard that a series based on Teen Wolf was in development, I had some serious doubts... but I had doubts when I heard about a Buffy series at first too! I am gonna wait and see what happens! I heard that the series is going to be 'darker' than the movies (but still humorous)... along the lines of how Buffy the series eventually differed from the movie!

Al

[casey]

Gosh, I thought that movie was sooo unbelievably bad. Such a waste of a great talent, MJFox. :mad:

[Mischievious]

Originally posted by casey
Gosh, I thought that movie was sooo unbelievably bad. Such a waste of a great talent, MJFox. :mad:

Why dis Teen Wolf or MJF for doing this movie? It already happened, accept it! So it's no where near oscar material, but it's still a fun and light-hearted movie. If ya don't like it, no one's asking you to watch it or bash it by posting in this thread. :\

[SuperConartist]

ah... MJF. He's norn in Burnaby, BC btw ;)

[Supernatural Hero]

norn?

[KSiteTV]

Haha... in the six years since this original thread now Teen Wolf is in development again, this time for MTV.

I was looking up for more info on it when I heard about that Howl thing FOX is doing... and... well it's MTV, so my hopes aren't high, and these casting breakdowns are pretty generic. Too bad Jeph Loeb or Tim Kring (who were both involved with the original Teen Wolf movies) aren't involved.

Here are the casting breakdowns though. BTW, was Scott in the movies "Scott McCall?" I don't think the Equalizer's son would appreciate his name being appropriated like that... lol.

SCOTT MCCALL - Playing 16 years old. He's slender. He is slightly unpopular. You can tell that he will soon grow up to be quite attractive. Scott gets attacked by a wolf and soon after seems to have powers, one of which make him appealing to the opposite sex. SERIES REGULAR
Gender: Male
Age: from 18 to 19

STILES - Playing 16 years old. He's Scott's best friend. At first he is reluctant to believe Scott about being attacked by the wolf. He ends up seeing for himself that Scott is not lying, and tries to help him figure out how it is all happening. SERIES REGULAR
Gender: Male
Age: from 18 to 19

DEREK HALE - Playing 19 yrs. old. Very attractive. He ends up being a werewolf that is very dangerous. SERIES REGULAR
Gender: Male
Age: from 18 to 20

ALLISON ARGENT - Playing 16 yr. old. She is new at school. Very wholesome and sweet. She ends up getting a crush on Scott. SERIES REGULAR
Gender: Female
Age: from 18 to 19

REBECCA HARLOWE (HARLEY) - She's Scott and Stiles very good friend at school. GUEST STAR
Gender: Female
Age: from 18 to 19

LYDIA SAYERS - Extremely gorgeous high school student. She is popular and dating the most attractive jock. GUEST STAR
Gender: Female
Age: from 18 to 19

COACH - He's the Lacrosse coach. He usually doesn't notice Scott, but can't help but notice, and be impressed by his new moves. GUEST STAR

[Clois4eva89]

Is MTV on regular cable or do you have to order it? I loved the original movie growing up and the theme of 'be the real you not what others want you to be'. The funny thing is when I saw this as a kid when Styles asked Scott if he was you know what. I always thought it was some kinda slang never really said it or thought what it meant.

[Clois4eva89]

Craig in the original film Scott's last name was Howard i'm kinda in the middle of the road with the name change. Part of me is glad they are trying to be different,but at the same time. I wish they'd keep the name Howard in there i'm pretty sure the reason it's different. Is due to copyright i've never watched MTV before so I don't know how their show quality is like.

[KSiteTV]

I really don't like the name "Scott McCall" as it was the name of Robert McCall's son on the Equalizer! I'll always compare the two.

Didn't Scott's cousin or whatever in Teen Wolf Too have the same last name?

The fact that this is written by the creator of Criminal Minds does reassure me with this a little. I was worried that they'd give this project to people who were, erm, not so good. But the real test will be once promo pics and footage come out - seeing if it'll still be good.

[Clois4eva89]

So is MTv a cable show or do you have to order it?

[KSiteTV]

MTV is a cable network. :) If you're in the U.S. and have cable you probably have it.

No word on when or if Teen Wolf will air, though.

[Clois4eva89]

yeah i'm in the U.S. hopefully the show won't suck it better live up to the movies theme.

[smounche]

So is there a release date yet ?

[Tubehead]

what do you think ofthe previewfor teen wolf? looks lot more scaryer then the moive with micheal jfox. i'll porbbey watch it .

[Rival X The Great]

i'll probably still love the one Michael J Fox in it. So i probably won't watch it.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I thought it had a Smallville vibe.
I will check it out, sounds like a good Summer series.

[LuthorKent90]

There's going to be a teen wolf tv show? o.0 I thought they were just remaking the movie

[McFly]

I have zero . zero interest in this series/movie whatever it is... Did Hollywood lose all originality..? ENOUGH on the 80's re makes.. They pale in comparison to their originals..

[SparkleforSmallville]

There's going to be a teen wolf tv show? o.0 I thought they were just remaking the movie

I saw the preview of the TV series on MTV, I think it is starting in June?

[Clois4eva89]

I watched the trailer for it and really enjoy how they set it up. It had the feel of Vampire Diaries to me now i'll have two shows to fill the gap until the fall season (Rookie Blue and Teen Wolf).

[KSiteTV]

I've posted some new images from Teen Wolf at KSiteTV:

http://www.ksitetv.com/category/teen-wolf/

[lorenzovanmatterhorn]

Remind me who starred in Teen Wolf 2?

[Sugar]

Jason Bateman

[SparkleforSmallville]

My guide says the Premiere is Sunday June 5, and Episode 2 is Monday June 6.
They'll also be repeating the Premiere before the 2nd epi airs.

[KSiteTV]

It premieres tonight! Who's watching?

[dreammaster]

I will be watching

[darkphoenix21]

May or May Not catch it...it will depend if I remember.

On another note, they should really rename MTV, it hasn't been MTV for over 10yrs.

[Sugar]

It premieres tonight! Who's watching?

Thanks for the reminder! I didn't realize it premiered tonight.

11:00 pm east coast

[WickedJenn]

So, this is the kid from "Maid In Manhattan"...

[darkphoenix21]

So far it seems similar to how Spider-Man was done....He's discovering he can do all these strange things after the wolf bite (the super hearing, the reflex).

[WickedJenn]

I agree, I got the same impression.

[darkphoenix21]

Why is it that in werewolf stories they always end up in the woods?...it becomes so cliche.

[WickedJenn]

I know, I mean, no love for the cornstalks or other various natural habitats. And notice this one is the usual Darkscaryfoggyquietwoods.

[darkphoenix21]

:lol:his best-friend is more interesting in his new found abilities than he is:lol:

[WickedJenn]

:lol:his best-friend is more interesting in his new found abilities than he is:lol:

Especially now that he found that big arse claw mark on the back of the chair.

[darkphoenix21]

Creepy guy staring at him....yeah he's a werewolf tooo!!! I suppose.

[Sugar]

If he's going to change, he probably needs to leave the house....

[darkphoenix21]

They should have shown more of his transformation. They had something before he was interrupted...and what is with all these commercials; come on!!!!!

[Sugar]

I wonder why Derek...i think that's his name...would take Scott's girlfriend home?

[darkphoenix21]

Derek seems to be good after all. It looks like he'll be his mentor.

And the werewolf hunters was a good touch.

[WickedJenn]

He didn't want her around Scott when he changed since he couldn't control it, but, I think there may be something else to that...

[darkphoenix21]

And yeah nice twist making Allison's dad the leader of the hunters.

[WickedJenn]

Now it's kind of like a Romeo/Juliet thing, haha.

[darkphoenix21]

^^^yep, looks that way

Overall it was a good start. I'll continue to watch but, if they bring in a vampire I'm done.:lol:

[KSiteTV]

Haha, I didn't know people would be talking about it live. Wellll...

I actually liked it. Yes it was kind of dumb in some parts, but it was the fun kind of dumb. But moreso... it had ALL of the Smallville archetypes.

You had the main guy who has super powers and isn't always bright, the best friend who makes pop culture references and secretly lusts after the lead (lol don't deny it), the mysterious mentor type who brings on even more homoerotic moments (aka the Lex), the hot wise mom, the angry jealous bully (the Whitney), and the girl the main guy pines for. So how could I NOT like this?

I'll be watching again tomorrow. It's not award winning TV like LOST but I still think it's fun.

[WickedJenn]

It wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be.

[Sugar]

Pretty good premiere, though it's hard to sit through MTV's commericals.

[WickedJenn]

MTV has the LONGEST commercial breaks.

[darkphoenix21]

yeah it was irritating, literally every 5 mins or so.

[Sugar]

He didn't want her around Scott when he changed since he couldn't control it, but, I think there may be something else to that...


Yeah, I have a feeling he knew her father was a hunter

[darkphoenix21]

Derek did say they've been hunting his kind for centuries...so its only fact that Allison's father may have history with Derek. That's why Allison's father moved them to that specific town; he knows where the werewolves are.

[Sugar]

And didn't Derek's family all die in a fire? He might want revenge against those who did it. It might be one of the hunters in town.

[WickedJenn]

Ah I missed some of these things...more depth to the show than I originally thought.

[McFly]

That coach has NOTHING on "coach" from the original movie..

Coach
"Scotty let me give u some advise.. 1. Always get 12 hours of sleep 2. Never play cards with a guy named after a city.. and 3. Never make love to a woman with a dagger tattooed on her arm.. Live by these rules and the rest is easy..." :D

Scott
"Thanks coach...?" :lol:

[KSiteTV]

Another new episode tonight!

[KSiteTV]

Watching the premiere again and am reminded of my favorite line.

"Where are you getting your juice?" "My mom does all the grocery shopping." LOL BDW

----- Added 15 Minutes later -----

Also... I missed this on the first watch... did Stiles just offer to chain him up himself? o_O

[Sugar]

Watching the premiere again and am reminded of my favorite line.

"Where are you getting your juice?" "My mom does all the grocery shopping." LOL BDW


:lol: That was funny!

[KSiteTV]

Only one minute in and that Stiles kid is already checking Scott out again.

This Coach guy tries too hard to be snarky. Sue Sylvester needs to teach him lessons.

[Sugar]

He's going to spend the whole series with his shirt off...not even a minute in and he's taking off his shirt...:lol:

[KSiteTV]

That red haired girl has an annoying voice...

[Sugar]

that was weird...so the dead girl was a werewolf?

[KSiteTV]

Ohhh The Whitney is figuring out something's up!

[ExtremeKal-El009]

hi craig,.. I have to see if I can get that episode off the web. Getting
new HDTV.. Old one on Frizz lol... How would you rate the show. :)

Im the @Kalel009Shel on twitter that talks to you all the time by the way. (https://twitter.com/#%21/Kalel009Shel)

How are you man... Man what praise you deserve for this site and all your team.. Blessings!! :) Is the micheal J Fox character in this show.. Iheard its darker, but not on the scale of say True Blood of course. Are you setting up a True Blood forum Craig? :)?


^^LMAO @ the Whitley.. Yeah I remember you posting it seems like they are copying the formula almost exactly with the show... GRRR lol..Hah hah, well if it makes for an Interesting show I guess
I can live with that. No show is going to match Smallville though. Evening everyone. On ep 3. Season One of Smallville by the way..

[Clois0324]

love this show already :) .... hhhmmm honestly i see nothing in common with smallville nor does it remind me of it with the characters...i just don't see it...JMO

[Odysseus]

The show seems pretty good so far. I'm definitely going to keep watching.

Although, as one other person in this thread noted already, the show is good but sitting through MTV's commercials is annoying.

[darkphoenix21]

I couldn't watch the second episode so, I'll watch it later on tonight.

[lorenzovanmatterhorn]

Jason Bateman

That's right, I always get him and Jerry O'Connell from Sliders mixed up

[Clois4eva89]

I'm loving the show so far Tyler Posey has an uncanny resemblance to Michael J. Fox. Speaking of Tyler he's was in Smallville's Subterranean in Season 5 playing the boy Clark was trying to help.

I'm a big fan of the 80's movie so I get pumped whenever I get the nods to the film. The pairing between Scott and Allison is great glad the two characters are taking it slow. I hate it when tv shows immediately try to have their love interests hook up instantly. The only thing that seems silly to me with the show is lacrosse why pick that.

If anything football would have fit in better to connect to the fans in teen shows.I just hope this show keep getting better maybe eventually moved to the fall. *cough* twenty two episodes please *cough* Anyone else got a funny feeling Stiles will try to to sell wolf products later on and where the hell is Lewis?

[The Beyonder]

I actually liked it. Yes it was kind of dumb in some parts, but it was the fun kind of dumb. But moreso... it had ALL of the Smallville archetypes.I totally agree, it definitely has the SV vibe going on, I didn't find it too dumb, some of the mushy stuff was a bit too early and the werewolf development at the start could have been a bit better, but it's got great potential to fill the void left by SV.

Being a big Highlander fan I sat up and took notice when Russell Mulcahy's name appeared in the credits and I'm glad to see it only takes the movie's name and not it's camp comedy element. I hope this show can continue to improve and deliver the potential it possesses.

[Clois4eva89]

I think the best supporting cast has to be Linden 'Johnny Cage' Ashby.I hope we get more scenes between Stiles and Sheriff Stilinsky. The parenting there is comedy gold namely the scene on lying.

Stiles: Define the meaning of lying?

Stilinsky: not telling the truth what's your definition?

Stiles: leaning back in a diagonal line.

[LexGossip]

i tried to watch the original movie but i just didn’t get into it. i love all things supernatural but i really just disliked it.

when i read about this show, i was excited about it. i have a teen drama about vampires (the vampire diaries), witches (the secret circle) and now werewolves (teen wolf). so i was extremely glad when i found out that it was in the vein of the vampire diaries (scary/sexy) because it’s my second fav tv show (the first being pretty little liars on abc family).

fast forward onto monday afternoon, i remembered it aired after the mtv award things MOD EDITi MOD EDIT and watched it and loved it. it was sexy and scary, i got a jump scare at one point. i really got amerced into this world and it was well done.

i have been on a horror website that reviewed the first episode and that whole thing was a huge “teen wolf is a MOD EDIT werewolf version of twilight.” a whole article was about that, well it was a paragraph and the rest was about the plot. i like twilight, i don’t love it but i enjoy the books and the films but people need to move on about everything supernatural related being compared to something else.

i just wish it was on the cw just because it would have a longer season that 10-12 episodes. also, what happened to the rebecca ‘harley’ harlowe character? she seemed interesting and she was in the first episode as the african-american girl who talked to stiles when scott was staring at allison.

i’m really impressed that they don’t have the stereotypical out gay character who is the bff for the main lead (scott) and have him bff with the main bully. such an interesting way to play it also danny has been accepted by the jocks and the coach. that’s more inspiring that what glee has done in two season and teen wolf is on epsiode two.

talking about gay characters, i totally agree with craig with stelis lusting after scott. to me, it makes him a better character. i liked him before i noticed it but now i like him more because of it. you know what i mean? i hope they carry on with it and explain/use it at some point.

i really enjoyed it and i can’t wait till … wait! what day is it on? anyway i can’t wait till episode 3!

[hellnback]

wow. mtv does run a ton of commercial breaks. its stupid. i checked to see how long an episode lasts. 40 minutes, give or take. but 40 minutes. usually shows run at around 43 to 45...depends. unless your in the UK then they run about an hour. they over do it on commercials thats for sure. haven't seen episode 2 yet. but 1 was ok. wasn't happy that they didn't do the genetic thing with scott being a werewolf cuz of his dad. oh well. stiles should have at least been a lot more like the movie version. now i'm wondering of they'll bring in the cousin later on in the show,the jason bateman character.

[spotteddog]

But I think I represent all the Teen Wolf fans when I ask - when is he going to fly and wear the suit?

[Clois0324]

can't wait to see Monday's ep :)

[Xanderman]

Lydia (the redhead) reminds me of Summer (Rachel Bilson) from The O.C. heh

Jackson (aka The Whitney as Craig pointed out) was on The Gates last year as one of the werewolves. And ironically, now instead of being a wolf, he hates them. :lol: He was a jealous hater on Gates too (hated the new guy in town who was into his girl). And now he hates Scott. He's always such a hater...heh. By the way if anyone didn't notice, the character's full name is Jackson Whittemore. As in, yes Smallville fans, we based him off Whitney Fordman and we're not ashamed to admit it.

The Scott/Derek stuff reminded me of I Am Number Four. Meaning Derek has been tasked to protect Scott and the eight other werewolves who came to Earth to escape those awful Mogadorians who destroyed their home planet... :lol:

Bring on episode 3.

[Clois0324]

loved tonight's ep and i had a feeling about that twist in the end :)...this show has really turned out to be a nice surprise for me....now i'm anxious for ep 4 :D...and totally love Stiles his is just awesome :)

[KSiteTV]

Just saw this week's episode. I like that some mystery is building. Somehow I missed before that Scott's mom worked at the hospital, lol, convenient.

I'm going to hate that this season is only 10 episodes though. :(

The bowling stuff was funny but I really didn't need the mental image of what Lydia does for Jackson... lol.

I thought the mom was going to find out the truth when Scott wasn't in his room. Still waiting for Stiles to come out of the closet already, lol.

[Sugar]

Still waiting for Stiles to come out of the closet already, lol.

I thought Stiles was in love with Lydia? :confused:

[LexGossip]

Still waiting for Stiles to come out of the closet already, lol.


I thought Stiles was in love with Lydia? :confused:

it seems like his IS in love/lust with scott but it also seems like he is into lydia/it's a cover for him being gay.

at this point i don't know what to think of that, it would be a cool little story but as of now, it's unknown.

[Sugar]

it seems like his IS in love/lust with scott but it also seems like he is into lydia/it's a cover for him being gay.
.



:eek: What! I've must have missed something, I didn't see that at all....(I''ll have to go rewatch the episodes again)

I was thinking the whole time he was pining for Lydia...no one else was around whenever he was looking at her like he was in love. So I didn't see it as being a cover... Plus, I've never seen him act like he liked Scott as more then just a friend.

[Superboy2]

Episode three was pretty girl. I love Allison. Lydia looks like Haley from OTH with red hair. I can't wait to see episode 4

[Timey]

Loving this series. Entertaining, funny, and a little dark in places. Great, fun television!

[Sugar]

Great episode! The series is definitely getting better. I'm glad we're finally getting to see more of Derek instead of seeing him creepily staring at people. I been wondering if there was another wolf in town since I didn't think Derek had killed his sister. I wonder what they want with the Alpha. Is the Alpha someone we've already seen or will it be someone new? Are there more wolves in town? Why did the Alpha kill his sister?

I thought the scene where the hunters were trying to intimidate Derek was kind of funny.

[vsamv]

i have this feeling that Lydia is a wolf too. Stilles did say something about howling and packs. Derek said that his sister came to Beacon Hills to look (or was it hunt?) the alpha. so that means that the alpha is staying in Beacon Hills. i wonder how many werewolves are in beacon hills

[Clois4eva89]

I'm crossing my fingers hoping that Lydia becomes casualty of war this season. She is quickly becoming beyond annoying it makes me wonder. Why she's 'popular' at all she doesn't appear to have any friends and is clueless. Take for example during the bowling game the minute she gets a strike. After sucking earlier in the game she immediately thinks she's a pro.

[hellnback]

I'm crossing my fingers hoping that Lydia becomes casualty of war this season. She is quickly becoming beyond annoying it makes me wonder. Why she's 'popular' at all she doesn't appear to have any friends and is clueless. Take for example during the bowling game the minute she gets a strike. After sucking earlier in the game she immediately thinks she's a pro.

lydia is obviously based around Pam from the movie. so expect her to stay in the series and at one point she'll even end up with scott. she has the same characteristics and personality.

[Clois4eva89]

lydia is obviously based around Pam from the movie. so expect her to stay in the series and at one point she'll even end up with scott. she has the same characteristics and personality.

If Lydia is Pam then Allison is Boof and in the original film Scott ends up with Boof. So far the show is only set for ten episode and at this point.The show has made it clear it intends to stick with the Scott & Allison pairing. Though if I had to have any complaint it would be that I think they are rushing it. Crystal and Tyler have chemistry but as of now I have yet to see any sign they are in love.

It's like the show expects us to swallow the whole 'meant for each other' that i'm not buying. Why should they be together,are their interests,and most importantly how did they fall for each other. These are things I want to know but so far most of their scenes together. Have just been the two either making goo goo eyes at each other or making out. Nothing has been established above on what makes each other right for the other person.

[Sharingan]

I wonder what the Hunters' code is

Hilarious with the condom scene. This show surprises me every time. It reminds me of high school ... in a good way

[Clois/is/hot]

This is such a fun show. I like the balance between horror & humor.


I wonder what the Hunters' code is


I'm thinking they can't kill unless they're in werewolf form (absolute of a threat and 100% proof the person is a werewolf).
While they were at the hospital seeing his burnt uncle, Derek told Scott 11 people died in the fire and some of his family were permently ordinary.

The fact that there were ordinary people in that fire I think is what caused the code.

It ties into why Allison's dad was taunting Derek at the gas station which seems like he was trying to get him to change so he could kill him.

[hellnback]

it's pretty obvious who broke the code way back when by killing all those people in the house. when allison's aunt started the fire in the fireplace they gave it away. i like how every episode ends with some kind of revelation. so i was watching a little bit of the original teen wolf movie and realized i want to see the new scott surf on top of a truck. and go into a liquor store and ask for a keg of beer. just as a reference to the old movie.

[Xanderman]

3rd ep -

Stiles: You didn't do it, which means you're not a killer. And it also means that--
Scott: I can go out with Allison!
Stiles: I was going to say it means you won't kill me. :lol:

Good ep. Scott is a like a cross between Hulk and Clark Kent. If he gets too excited/angry etc, he begins to change. The eye thing is very Hulk. And Clark similarly had to avert his eyes away from people (mainly Lana) when he got "excited", otherwise his heat vision would go off. Therefore, Teen Wolf is a mix of Hulk, Smallville, Twilight, Vampire Diaries, I Am Number Four, The Gates, and of course, The O.C. (Lydia=Summer). heh


4th ep -

Great episode. Funny to see that Stiles and Derek weren't really driving in the jeep, fake moving background in the windows (Supernatural style). When the jeep pulled over you could see the people in it were different actors (stunt doubles), and then when they cut back to the inside of the jeep, back to the fake background. So cheap. heh

I mentioned I Am Number Four similarities before, cropped up again in this ep. Allison being a photographer (at one point) being one of them, just like the Glee chick in the movie. Another being Allison saying that she moves around a lot with her father, just like #4's deal.

About Derek cutting off his arm as a last resort, why would limbs grow back? Just because they're part dog? Dogs/wolves don't have miraculous healing powers, so why should werewolves? Silly. I mean if they were "were-plants" I could get on board with that, like Swamp Thing, but werewolves' body parts growing back? Whatever I guess.




Is the Alpha someone we've already seen or will it be someone new?Maybe it's Michael J. Fox.... :lol:


Why did the Alpha kill his sister?Because she wouldn't go out with him probably....j/k


i have this feeling that Lydia is a wolf too.Possibly, given her skill in bowling (she faked being bad). Plus she hits on Scott sometimes, possibly because she knows he's a wolf. Plus we had that scene where Allison did that gymnastic flip from her bedroom window and they showed Lydia being surprised and saying she would just take the stairs--another "faking" from her maybe? Speaking of Allison doing that flip, maybe she's a wolf? Would be a good twist to have the hunter's own daughter be what he hates most. I just hope the show doesn't go nutty with supernatural stuff and start tossing in witches and vampires as well like all vampire shows and movies seem to.


I'm thinking they can't kill unless they're in werewolf form (absolute of a threat and 100% proof the person is a werewolf).
While they were at the hospital seeing his burnt uncle, Derek told Scott 11 people died in the fire and some of his family were permently ordinary.

The fact that there were ordinary people in that fire I think is what caused the code.

It ties into why Allison's dad was taunting Derek at the gas station which seems like he was trying to get him to change so he could kill him.That all makes sense. Good thinking.


it's pretty obvious who broke the code way back when by killing all those people in the house. when allison's aunt started the fire in the fireplace they gave it away.Yup that was a very direct clue alright.

[Clois/is/hot]

it's pretty obvious who broke the code way back when by killing all those people in the house. when allison's aunt started the fire in the fireplace they gave it away.

It sure looks that way.



Possibly, given her skill in bowling (she faked being bad). Plus she hits on Scott sometimes, possibly because she knows he's a wolf. Plus we had that scene where Allison did that gymnastic flip from her bedroom window and they showed Lydia being surprised and saying she would just take the stairs--another "faking" from her maybe? Speaking of Allison doing that flip, maybe she's a wolf? Would be a good twist to have the hunter's own daughter be what he hates most.


Nah, I think Allison's father has been training her to be a Werewolf killer without her knowing, yet. Allison also mentioned she is really good at shooting a crossbows when Scott & her in the garage.
Her father is probably waiting until she is older to tell her she was born to hunt down Vamp...er..Werewolves. Allison & Scott would be like Buffy & Angel.

As far as Lydia beeing the the Alpha...maybe. She could be trying to create a pack or a proper mate for herself. The only thing is why she hasn't changed Jackson, yet?

There is also the coach as a possibility...maybe he wanted a better Lacrosse team.:lol:



I just hope the show doesn't go nutty with supernatural stuff and start tossing in witches and vampires as well like all vampire shows and movies seem to.


I think they will keep it at werewolves or at least not have vampires in the show...to help set it apart from other shows & movies.

[Clois4eva89]

It could be just me but I got the hunch Allison's Aunt Kate has a thing for Scott.First the bathroom scene and then the questioning at the door (before the condom reveal). What a pickle for Scott to be in the cougar or the hot high schooler chick.

[Clois/is/hot]

It could be just me but I got the hunch Allison's Aunt Kate has a thing for Scott.First the bathroom scene and then the questioning at the door (before the condom reveal). What a pickle for Scott to be in the cougar or the hot high schooler chick.

Nope it wasn't just you. I got that vibe from her too.

I could totally see the Aunt causing real trouble between Scott & Allison and Allison's Dad approval of Scott.

[Xanderman]

Nah, I think Allison's father has been training her to be a Werewolf killer without her knowing, yet. Allison also mentioned she is really good at shooting a crossbows when Scott & her in the garage. Yeah that was all sort of made obvious in the story, I was just bringing up the possibility of her being a wolf based on the gymnastics flip she did. I agree that it's more likely Buffy I mean Allison is not a wolf based on other aspects of her character. heh


Her father is probably waiting until she is older to tell her she was born to hunt down Vamp...er..Werewolves. Allison & Scott would be like Buffy & Angel. It's also very Sam/Dean from Supernatural, with the father training them since they were kids to be hunters. Besides the Buffy/Angel similarity with Allison/Scott, there's also a strong Lana/Clark similarity. I'd say Scott has far more in common with Clark than Angel.


As far as Lydia beeing the the Alpha...maybe. She could be trying to create a pack or a proper mate for herself.Yes and the choice of Scott can be used as support for the Alpha being a female rather than male, even if it's not Lydia, on the basis of trying to find a mate. Other support for a female Alpha is the killing of Derek's sister. Could have been motivated by jealousy/rivalry, etc.


The only thing is why she hasn't changed Jackson, yet?Maybe she's never seen him as worthy or something...he's great at being a dirt bag and all, sure, but maybe Lydia wants something "more"... :lol:

By the way, where's Scott's father? I can't recall the family situation at Scott's home...is it just him and his mom? Did they mention where his dad went? Because he would be another possibility for the Alpha. He would have chosen Scott because he's his son...it's time he joins the family business. (which is sort of similar to the movie The Wolfman, where Anthony Hopkins' character bit and changed his own son) Or maybe Mom's the Alpha. She is working all those "late shifts" all the time afterall...good cover story for being out late at night all the time so that Scott and others don't get suspicious. Or maybe she's a hunter...and she's after Scott's deadbeat dog I mean dad for what he owes...

Scott's Mom: Where's the alimony!! Where's the CHILD SUPPORT??!!!
Scott's Dad (aka the Alpha): Woof! Woof! (tail wagging)
Scott's Mom: Don't you woof woof me you literal son of a b****! :lol:

[hellnback]

i was also wondering about where scott's dad is? it's the only other small way they could tie up certain things with the movie if it's revealed that the alpha werwolf is scott's dad. the difference is that he's not the good guy like the movie. i was watching both teen wolf movies and couldn't stop laughing at how michael j. fox looks like chewbacca and jason bateman looks like a chimp.

[Tebow15]

I like Jason Bateman, but Teen Wolf 2 sucked eggs.

[Sugar]

Hmmm...so i'm thinking the science teacher or the vet is the alpha.

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"One more question...Do you find me attractive?" :rotfl:

[KSiteTV]

LOL did Stiles seriously ask that? Stiles is awesome...

[Sugar]

LOL did Stiles seriously ask that? Stiles is awesome...


:lol: it was great! I almost fell off my couch laughing so hard!

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funny how the wolf mom from the vampire diaries is now in teen wolf...i wonder if they are trying to hint at something


And the whole thing with Scott and Allison in the woods reminds me of Elena and Stefan in the woods at the cabin...

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also the whole mysterious name of Stiles reminds me of Cappie on Greek

[Clois/is/hot]

Good episode. That parent/teacher conference seems to be giving us some more clues & reminders who these characters are & what role they'll play.



It's also very Sam/Dean from Supernatural, with the father training them since they were kids to be hunters. Besides the Buffy/Angel similarity with Allison/Scott, there's also a strong Lana/Clark similarity. I'd say Scott has far more in common with Clark than Angel.

Oh yeah I agree Scott personality & situation is more like young Clark...wide eyed teen with an innocent charm trying to control his abilities and so on. They even have similar hairdues.lol




By the way, where's Scott's father? I can't recall the family situation at Scott's home...is it just him and his mom? Did they mention where his dad went? Because he would be another possibility for the Alpha.


Could be. Scott's mother mentioned again that his father left them and he was no good. It could be a clue.


Hmmm...so i'm thinking the science teacher or the vet is the alpha.


That's another possibility.

The science teacher is creepy and he seems to have a six sense on what Stiles was doing behind him but then again I knew some teachers in school who are like that:lol:.

The Vet was the one who told the cops it was a mountain lion attack and he seemed nervous when Stiles dad was questioning him.




"One more question...Do you find me attractive?" :rotfl:

That was so hilarous and a nice call back to an earlier episode when Stiles was questioning Scott if Danny finds him attractive.



Why do you guys think the Alpha wouldn't kill Jackson? Maybe one of Jackson's biological parents is the Alpha that is killing people?

[Tebow15]

I think the science teacher is the alpha and I wondered why the alpha didn't kill Jackson, that makes me wonder.

[Sugar]

I was thinking that the science teacher or the vet could be the alpha, but...do we know for certain that there are no other wolves in town? Derek keeps mentioning the alpha's pack. Maybe their just part of the alpha's pack, if they aren't the alpha. It might explain a little bit about Jackson's part in all this. How they brought up that he's adopted. And the way that the science teacher was being super nice to him. Maybe Jackson is the son of one the wolves in town, but since Jackson was born without the wolf gene the alpha forced the parents to give him up. Maybe the members of his pack are forced to give up their children if they don't have the wolf gene.

And as Princess mentioned...why didn't the alpha kill Jackson? He seems to be killing everyone else. And why was he at the video store anyway? Just to kill the clerk??

The alpha could be trying to kill off the rest of Derek's pack. Jackson might have smelled like Derek with his marks on his neck so the alpha thought it was him...maybe. The alpha stopped attacking when he noticed the marks on Jackson's neck and the marks seem to still have the Wolfsbane in them. The alpha could of just stopped because he smelled the wolfsbane and didn't want to have Jackson's blood infect him with the poison...

[Superboy2]

Well it would seem weird if the Alpha came here by him/herself to only recruit Scott and not bring in other members of the pack. I'm sure we will see more Wolves later on. So I'm assuming with last week's episode that Derek and his sister were bron werewolves? I know he mentioned he has human family members as well, unless that means they married humans.

[Clois4eva89]

Alright last night's episode had to be the first terrible episode of the season for me. The entire episode made no sense at all from start to finish.Here are a few questions i've got that made no sense to me.

Why was the Alpha wolf at the video rental store in the first place?

I missed a good chunk of the opening sequence in the episode but based on previews.The shelves get knocked over ontop of Jackson and some how he still lives to tell about it.

Why did Scott and Allison skip school for the entire day and further more.Why didn't the school contact the parents right away when they were a no show?

This single part pulls apart the entire episode Allison mentions it's her birthday.So out of the blue Scott goes 'hey lets skip school today'. When they go to Allison's car campus police spot them yet they still leave the school grounds?

Where's the logic in this school has just started for the day,and both Scott and Allison get away. You'd think the minute the school police spot them they'd go "hey you two stop right there both of you need to go to class."

Why did Scott and Allison hang out in the forest all day?

This is what I couldn't wrap my head around both decide to skip school for the day.Out of all of the places they could go to spend quality time. They decide to walk around in a forest to just kiss off and on. Assuming for them school starts around 7 am-ish and the parent/teacher meetings were around 7 or 8pm.

They expect me to believe that Scott and Allison wasted about twelve or thirteen hours.Walking around in a forest just for the hell of it, for me after about half an hour i'd be bored to death.

What the hell is up with Stiles sexuality is he straight or gay?

This is something that was bouncing off the walls that I couldn't make heads or tails from. One minute he's throwing himself at Lydia and the next he's throwing the 'am I gay?' out there. Early in the episode out of the blue he asks another male students if he finds him attractive.

Then for no reason at all he drops by Lydia's house to visit her because he cares.With her doped up on meds which I don't think are ever explained. What she is taking she starts to hit on Stiles and he clearly comes off. Like he's thinks he going to get some action with her.When she asks him to stay so what's with these mixed signals the show is throwing at us? One minute the powers that be are throwing at us that he's gay and the next he's not. It's like the old days with Smallville where one minute lana's nice ,and then the next she's a spiteful b*tch.

Why did Kate and the other hunters drop by Derek's house?

Clearly Kate says before entering the house that they aren't going to kill him. Just drop by for a little chat but near the end of the scene. The minute she finds out Derek is in the dark about the Alpha's identity she tries to kill him. When just in the prior episode Allison's father makes it clear kill the alpha first then the pack. So where's the point in Kate saying she follows the code if she'll just break the rules anyway?

Is Jackson a werewolf now?

Since Derek accidently stabbed Jackson with his claws that means he was infected.But up to now nothing which lacks complete logic to me. When Scott was bitten by the next day it was completely healed. Yet when Derek scratches him it's still there what gives?

Why was Jackson messing up on his practice shots?

Ok Jackson is the captain of the team this would tell me he would have some skill.Granted I know nothing of the game but to see him missing over and over again. Just screams out 'lack of continuity' to me why was he aiming for the round circle? Doesn't he have a practice net at home to keep up with?

Why did Scott wonder off on the school ground after being confronted by his mother.And Allison's father after the parent teacher meeting?

Literally after being stopped and asked 'where the hell have you been' an attack happens.Which leads to Scott walking off looking around strangely at that time. I was going hey why isn't Scott's mother telling him to stay put? You'd think she would have said 'Scott, get back here this instant i'm not done with you yet!'. Nope complete silence and further more we are lead to believe the alpha is attacking at the school. But out of the blue Allison's father kills I believe a mountain lion. Funny how that word was thrown around in the episode.

Long story short this episode makes any bad episode of Smallville look like a work of art. The writer for this episode Monica Macer had me scratching my head this is the first time. That i've seen something written by her but I was surprised at how bad it was done. After researching her background history it says that her past credits. Was first as a writing assistant for Lost and a story editor for Lost and the short lived Knight Rider series.Without a doubt this has to be the worst episode I have ever seen in my entire life.

The character backgrounds goes against how the characters are shown in the episode.The action sequences with the exception of the Kate and Derek scene.Didn't pull me in,and the entire episode lacked complete logic. I really expected more from this show so I hope things improve from here on out.

[Sugar]

Why was the Alpha wolf at the video rental store in the first place?

I missed a good chunk of the opening sequence in the episode but based on previews.The shelves get knocked over ontop of Jackson and some how he still lives to tell about it.



Did you notice the symbol that was on the roof store? I wonder if it has something to do with why the alpha was there... It kind of reminded me of the circles on Derek's back, but I don't think it was that design exactly.

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http://www.tvguide.com/News/Watercooler-Teen-Wolfs-1034676.aspx?rss=breakingnews&partnerid=imdb&profileid=01

Interview with Crystal Reed...it has some spoilers

[Superboy2]

I'm thinking maybe the Alpha is related to Jackson somehow. Maybe a sibling, parent, uncle cousin or whatever. It did seem weird that Scott and Allison spent all day in the woods. Same with Stiles wanting to know if a guy found him attractive and Lydia being drugged up. That and deleting the video with the werewolf. I could tell Kate was going to try and kill Derek. I'm guessing she started the fire that killed his family.

[Tebow15]

That Kate is one mean beach.

[hellnback]

yeah there was a symbol up on that roof top. but no it wasn't the same as the tattoo. the way i was trying to follow it...it looked like a line in a circular pattern starting from the outside and going in.

Why was the Alpha wolf at the video rental store in the first place?

simple, it was letting out it's frustrations on the twilight movies and showing how a werewolf should be. something tells me it has to do with the symbol on the roof. but who or what put the symbol up there? is the alpha being controlled by someone using that symbol?

Why did Scott and Allison skip school for the entire day and further more.Why didn't the school contact the parents right away when they were a no show?

didn't give it a thought. but when i was going to school and i didn't go in, they never called to see why students didn't show up. i'm guessing not all schools do that. they just assumed there had to be a good reason and don't bother following up. also a walk in the woods would end up being boring after some time right. what they heck were they doing there all day? was there a lot to talk about?

Why did Scott and Allison hang out in the forest all day?

i already talked about that. they must have gone on a quest or something.

What the hell is up with Stiles sexuality is he straight or gay?

strangely i never thought they were alluding that stiles is gay. this is one of the forums i've visited where people have assumed stiles is gay. sure he throws out some odd things about himself but he reminds of some people i've known who are not gay. just cause he wants to know if that guy finds him attractive doesn't mean he's gay. this same question or joke of sorts was used in a movie. i can't remember what movie it was, but the guy was going on about how girls found him very attractive and that he was sure even gay men would to. so he started asking gay guys who looked at him funny though. hell at my job, this guy that works there was at the electronics dept. and he was just standing there with a weird look on his face. i asked him what was up and he just said "gay guys find me attractive, awesome". apparently there were some gay guys shopping there and they told him that. when i asked him why he thought it was awesome he just said that it meant he was attractive to both sexes.

Why did Kate and the other hunters drop by Derek's house?

because she's a psycho. she obviously started the fire. i believe she was told not to or something like that but she did it anyway. she doesn't care. if she had killed derek she would have just said it was either him or me. that he would have killed her. for some reason i get the feeling they have a past together. the part where he said it wouldn't be the first time she lied made me wonder.

Is Jackson a werewolf now?

jackson is not a werewolf. that's all.

Why was Jackson messing up on his practice shots?
because he was angry and unbalanced. you're not going to accomplish anything when angry. and was it me or was jackson holding a beer bottle in his hand? so he wasn't thinking straight. but he should have at least made one shot.

Why did Scott wonder off on the school ground after being confronted by his mother.And Allison's father after the parent teacher meeting?

who knows?


but as for who the alpha werewolf is....my bets on the science teacher. the whole thing with the vet is to throw us off because they seemed to be trying to push him on us with the whole mountain lion thing. the sheriff shows up and shows him the pics and he gets jittery. it's not cuz he's a werewolf it's cuz he knows about werewolves and is trying to cover it up. maybe he's in league with the hunters and they're trying to keep it a secret. notice the dogs were barking in the background? maybe cuz there was a mountain lion being held back there and the dogs were going nuts cuz of it. then at the right time, he released it with the intention of allison's dad killing it. the science teacher seems to know some stuff, doesn't he?

why did stiles delete the video? that didn't sit right with me. it could have given derek a clue.

what was stiles first name? was his last name stilinski like in the movie? i know stiles first name in the movie was rupert. anyone catch what was written on that folder?

jackson is adopted. so who is his father? the alpha wolf? is the chem teacher his dad if he is the alpha wolf? this would explain why the alpha wolf didn't kill him at the one of few video stores still in existence. the alpha probably sensed this was his son and left him alone. although i'm wondering. did the alpha wolf go into the store in human form? then did he transform and kill the employee? were there no cameras in the store? the sheriff had pics taken from an outside camera but none that showed anyone going in before jackson and lydia showed up? did the alpha wolf enter through the roof where the symbol was? so how did he get in there?

[shpammy]

I thought the episode was pretty good actually, although I've become slightly bored of
Allison and Scott. The other characters are more interesting to me, to be honest.

On twitter, the executive producer/writer for Teen Wolf said this: "Interesting fact for #teenwolf (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23teenwolf) @tylergposey (http://twitter.com/tylergposey) @dylanobrien (http://twitter.com/dylanobrien) @ColtonLHaynes (http://twitter.com/ColtonLHaynes) fans. You've already seen more than one Alpha on the show."

I wonder what that means?

I'm pretty sure Jackson is not a werewolf, and I think he'll slowly become ill from the scratch, considering Derrick had wolf's bane in him when he scratched Jackson. Jackson's scratch glowed in the video store, which makes me think he has the wolf's bane in him, and it's probably why the alpha did not scratch him-for fear of getting sick from wolf's bane also. Jackson is also not experiencing any of the physical perks of turning into a wolf, like the quick reflexes/strength etc. So what's going to happen to him?

I don't think the vet is the alpha, although he knows who it is and may be covering up for them. It would be way too obvious if it was him.

[KSiteTV]

I thought the episode was pretty good actually, although I've become slightly bored of
Allison and Scott. The other characters are more interesting to me, to be honest.

That was my feeling with the most recent episode, too. I love Stiles, Jackson and Lydia, Derek, the Sheriff, Allison's dad... her aunt is annoying but I think she's supposed to be... but the Allison and Scott stuff was mostly awful, especially this week.

[Superboy2]

I was going to ask why Jackson wouldn't be a werewolf if his father was, but Derek also mentioned the episode prior that there were members in his family that were human and it seemed like Derek and his sister were born werewolves.

[Tebow15]

So we have seen more than one alpha, that is very interesting.

[hellnback]

i say one is the chem teacher. but who could be the other? i'm thinking one alpha is doing the killing, which is the one that turned scott. the other is probably not killing and quite possibly one of the good guys. or one of the bad guys and just keeping it a secret. maybe the vet knows.

[Superboy2]

I was going to say that Derek could be the alpha to his pack but his pack was his family and all but one are dead now. So maybe he's trying to get a new pack going to go against the other.

[BlueRanger]

Awesome show, just caught up.


but whats going on with its ratings, falling badly. Need season two ......and three, great show.:p

Scott, Stiles and Jackson are really likeable, but Stiles needs to get his own arch & spark instead of being scotty's tail, day and night. Derek can be whiny and boring, but still holding hope for him, Allison meh, nothing. Her dad though is intruguing . The aunt talks a lot, but I like her strong and fearless attitude, like bro like sis. Lydia has the potential to be the leading lady. Scott & Allison a waste of time. Derek and aunt have chemistry, noticed.

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[shpammy]

(Spoiler if you haven't seen tonight's episode).

WOW, tonights episode... lot of stuff going on now. I wonder if Derrick actually died?? And is the vet actually the alpha? Or did the alpha somehow grab him from the car? Why is the alpha trying to get revenge anyways?

[Sugar]

Wow... I hope Derek isn't dead... But Derek...seriously!?! Does he actually think he's going to be able to take on the alpha?? He couldn't even sense when he was right behind him. It tossed him aside like he was nothing.

If there really is two alpha's, which one was at Scott's car? Why did he leave the revenge symbol on his car? Is it revenge on Scott or revenge for Scott? It sounded like the alpha at the car was pissed at someone else. The revenge symbol was also left on the video store...was the clerk part of a rival pack or something...

When Derek got that note on his car...it made me think someone is using Derek in some war between packs or something. Why would anyone help him? They knew he would go to the vet.

It looks like Jackson is dying (he's starting to get creepy)...would they kill his character off so soon?

The science teacher has to be a part of it. It seemed like when scott and stiles left detention he turned around like he was smelling scott's blood that he had on the tissue.

[dressed]

derek isn't dead. if you look at imdb it says he's in plenty of more episodes. :)

[Sugar]

derek isn't dead. if you look at imdb it says he's in plenty of more episodes. :)


I hope he isn't. He's one of my favorite characters... Looks like he won't be in the next episode if imdb is correct.

[Clois/is/hot]

Whoa:eek: what an episode!!!



(Spoiler if you haven't seen tonight's episode).

WOW, tonights episode... lot of stuff going on now. I wonder if Derrick actually died?? And is the vet actually the alpha? Or did the alpha somehow grab him from the car? Why is the alpha trying to get revenge anyways?

I don't think Derek died. Well, I hope not. Anyway, Scott still needs to learn a lot on how to be a werewolf so Derek still needs to stick around.





It looks like Jackson is dying (he's starting to get creepy)...would they kill his character off so soon? .

Crystal Reed said something about someone not surviving in her interview.

TV Guide Magazine: Did the producers or writers warn you guys that not everyone would survive the season?
Reed: No, they did not! [Laughs] And we have one character who ends up dying and that person didn't find out until they read that script!


So it could be Jackson she was talking about unless they find a cure and it's someone else.
Then again this is a supernatural show so someone dying could be misleading and Jackson becomes the living dead...a Zombie:eek:.

[hellnback]

i have a feeling derek will show up to save the day at the end of the next episode. still it's getting weird. it was obvious the chem teacher was listening in. i'm getting the feeling he's the other alpha and probably not the one killing. jackson is freaking me out. why did he hallucinate the werewolf coming out of his mouth unless they're foreshadowing that there's a wolf in him trying to get out. maybe he's a inherited the werewolf gene and it hasn't manifested itself. so does that mean a fight between two teen wolfs in the future? i don't think the vet is a wolf. he had to be sneaked out of the car by the alpha.

as for allison, her character is not great but i think she's cute.

[Tebow15]

WOW, She hope Derek isn't dead, I like him.

[Clois/is/hot]

When Derek got that note on his car...it made me think someone is using Derek in some war between packs or something. Why would anyone help him? They knew he would go to the vet.
.

Could it be Allison's father who is using Derek?
Last episode the other hunters reminded Allison's Aunt that "he wants us to wait." when the hunters went over to Derek's house. I'm assuming they ment Allison's dad gave that order to wait. He might have gave that order because he was planning to use Derek to find the Alpha and fight it for them. Kill 2 birds with one stone basically.

[spotteddog]

So the swirly thing means "vendetta", huh? I would have to think that, given what we have been told to this point, someone who escaped the house burning or someone who had a relationship with someone in the house burning would be the candidate for having a vendetta in mind. But on the other hand, the Alpha killed Derek's sister. Arrgghh !!!

This show is doing a great job with mystery and secrets. That is the one and only aspect that I like more than Smallville. No matter what twists were in Smallville, we knew basically how things were going to go, and we definately knew how things would end.

[Superboy2]

I'm confused by Derek's statement about the alpha. He said the alpha is without a pack. How is he an alpha if he doesn't have a pack? That's like me being King of a group of rocks. Unless he meant or said something else that I missed.

[Dark_Valkyrie]

^ I think that when it comes to alphas and betas (like Scott and Derek), it's not about being a leader of a pack, but rather about the type of transformation. Betas transform partially, and alphas transform completely.

What I'd like to know is what the heck is happening to Jackson. Is he becoming an alpha or something?

[Clois/is/hot]

jackson is freaking me out. why did he hallucinate the werewolf coming out of his mouth unless they're foreshadowing that there's a wolf in him trying to get out. maybe he's a inherited the werewolf gene and it hasn't manifested itself. so does that mean a fight between two teen wolfs in the future?.

That conversation with Allison was very creepy...it seems Jackson's personality is changing. (not just a cocky bully anymore but now leaning towards a serial killer personality)
Maybe Jackson is the decedent of the original werewolf Allison was reading about in the book to Lydia, Labet (sp?). She said it was believe Labet was a messenger of satan & a sorcer....and the wolfbane in Jackson's bloodsystem triggered a dormant gene or spell. Jackson is becoming Labet maybe???

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This show is doing a great job with mystery and secrets. That is the one and only aspect that I like more than Smallville. No matter what twists were in Smallville, we knew basically how things were going to go, and we definately knew how things would end.

I agree. Also so far the writers haven't contradicted themselves from episode to episode that I've noticed.


^ I think that when it comes to alphas and betas (like Scott and Derek), it's not about being a leader of a pack, but rather about the type of transformation. Betas transform partially, and alphas transform completely.



Yea, that's how I took what Derek ment by Alphas & Betas are just different breeds of werewolves.

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WOW, She hope Derek isn't dead, I like him.

Derek said werewolves heal when their awake and the camera made sure to show his eyes was open when he fell to the ground after the Alpha stabbed him. I say he's alive but it's going to take the whole episode for him to heal properly.

[dressed]

I could definitely see jackson becoming a werewolf. It continues the rivalry between him and scott.

[spotteddog]

I think the wolf coming out of Jackson's mouth was a dead giveaway. Unless that wasn't a wolf, and something else coming out of his mouth, like maybe a king crab

[shpammy]

I don't understand what the alpha's intentions are. If he's someone that survived the house fire, why would he be killing a random bus driver, and a random video store guy? Those killings I don't understand.

He's getting revenge on someone, but so far.. I have no idea. He did chase down Allison's aunt a few episodes back.. and she was obviously the one that started the fire. But, why would he kill Derek's sister? It seems like he's trying to form a pack.. maybe Derek's sister knew what was going on and tried to stop the alpha, getting herself killed? Wouldn't explain the video store guy and bus driver though..

That hand coming out of Jackson's mouth was pretty creepy. I don't really have any clue what that was about. And Jackson's attitude has done a complete 180.. I wonder why. Maybe he realized forcing the truth out of Scott isn't working, so befriending him might? He looks kind of like how Derek looked, when Derrick was shot.

I'm pretty sure Derek is not dead, but might take the whole episode to heal himself...

[Superboy2]

I doubt Derek is dead too. i do hope that Jackson doesn't become a werewolf. If he was turning into one, why is he getting sick from it? So can Beta's become Alpha's? Because as far as I know Derek can't turn into a wolf completely yet his sister could.

[Clois/is/hot]

I don't understand what the alpha's intentions are. If he's someone that survived the house fire, why would he be killing a random bus driver, and a random video store guy? Those killings I don't understand.

He's getting revenge on someone, but so far.. I have no idea. He did chase down Allison's aunt a few episodes back.. and she was obviously the one that started the fire. But, why would he kill Derek's sister? It seems like he's trying to form a pack.. maybe Derek's sister knew what was going on and tried to stop the alpha, getting herself killed? Wouldn't explain the video store guy and bus driver though..


How do we know Allison's aunt worked alone if she started the fire? How do we know the video store guy and the bus driver were random people and not targeted? (there was that revenge symbol on the roof of the video store). The video store guy, the bus driver might have been apart of starting the fire or something that pissed off the Alpha.

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Something I noticed about the show so far and like. NO angst love triangles. It's focused on werewolves and the mystery.
The closes love triangle they have is Stiles liking Lydia while she's dating Jackson but it's played off as humorous.

[shpammy]

How do we know Allison's aunt worked alone if she started the fire? How do we know the video store guy and the bus driver were random people and not targeted? (there was that revenge symbol on the roof of the video store). The video store guy, the bus driver might have been apart of starting the fire or something that pissed off the Alpha.

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Something I noticed about the show so far and like. NO angst love triangles. It's focused on werewolves and the mystery.
The closes love triangle they have is Stiles liking Lydia while she's dating Jackson but it's played off as humorous.

That's true.. those guys could have been targeted and not just random people. I forgot about the revenge symbol on top of the video store.. I don't remember seeing one on or near the bus though.

I agree completely. I'm glad there aren't any love triangles, although I do wish they would have made the allison/scott relationship progress a little slower. I feel like it's made their relationship a little boring quickly. I'm also glad it's strictly werewolves (or at least I hope). The vampire thing is a little overdone...

[Clois/is/hot]

That's true.. those guys could have been targeted and not just random people. I forgot about the revenge symbol on top of the video store.. I don't remember seeing one on or near the bus though.


I don't remember one on the bus either but the show just might not have shown it. Scott was only looking at the bus very briefly.



I agree completely. I'm glad there aren't any love triangles, although I do wish they would have made the allison/scott relationship progress a little slower. I feel like it's made their relationship a little boring quickly. I'm also glad it's strictly werewolves (or at least I hope). The vampire thing is a little overdone...

Right now they're not boring to me BUT I do agree Allison/Scott relationship moved too fast. I guess since it's such a short season...(10 episodes I think) the writers had to sacrifice one story line a bit to get the other plots going. No time for will they or won't they.

I think once Allison learns all about her hunter heritage and then later learning about Scott being a werewolf...tensions will arise and things with be more interesting.

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Oh yea I'm getting tired of vampires everywhere too so I hope they leave that out of the show.

[hellnback]

they should bring in the character of chubby into the teen wolf show. chubby was the only other character besides stiles and scott's dad that appeared in both TW movies.

[Superboy2]

Personally I like the Werwolves vs Vampires idea. I hope Scott starts to ask more about other Supernatural creatures. Why is there only werewolves? What about other Supernatural entities?

[shpammy]

I feel like most other shows have been including the vampires vs. werewolves idea. True Blood, Twilight, Vampire Diaries.. I think Teen Wolf's idea of Alpha werewolves vs. Beta is a unique take on it, which I like.

Just because-in this show's reality-one supernatural myth is true, doesn't always mean that they are all true. The writers on the show have mentioned that there will be no vampires on teen wolf.. they never mentioned other supernatural creatures though.

[Superboy2]

I'm fine with not having vampires on the show. Hopefully though there could be other were-species. I like that in True blood they also have Were-panthers and shape shifters. Those two plus maybe other ones that haven't been seen before-Were-tigers, Were-apes and Were-lions maybe? I think I'n getting ahead of myself but I think it would be cool lol. I wonder if it's always supposed to be Beta's vs. Alphas or just this one. Although I thought Derek's sister was an Alpha.

[dressed]

I don't remember seeing one on or near the bus though.
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Episode 3 When Derek visits the bus driver in the hospital. The bus driver says hale and says sorry.

Episode 6 Derek visits his uncle in the nursery home and asks if the alpha was one of them, and if someone made it out of the fire. The uncle raises his finger giving the sign.

Alpha made it out of the fire and killed the bus driver because he was involved.
That's what i made out of it.

[Superboy2]

So maybe the Alpha is a cousin or another sibling of Derek's. If it was a parent I don't see him/her not telling Derek. Plus the Alpha apparently killed Laura Hale right? Or is it another Alpha?

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So can a Beta evolve into an Alpha?

[Kumonga]

So can a Beta evolve into an Alpha?

That seems to be the idea, I remember reading somewhere that Derek himself is "on the verge of becoming an Alpha" during the show's initial press campaign.

Here's a picture of the practical makeup for the Alpha:

http://werewolf-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tw.jpg

[Superboy2]

Ok that makes sense. So how old is Derek supposed to be? I'm assuming Scott, Allison, Stiles, Jackson and Lydia are all sophomores because Allison turned 17 and she was held back. I'm assuming Derek is 19 or 20 but I don't know for sure.

[Sugar]

Episode 6 Derek visits his uncle in the nursery home and asks if the alpha was one of them, and if someone made it out of the fire. The uncle raises his finger giving the sign.




I didn't take it as that...I thought he was just raising his finger to try to commuicate with Derek. Showing that he heard him. If it was someone who made it out of the fire, wouldn't Derek know who it is? He would know what his family looks like, plus why would they try to kill Derek?

His uncle could know if there is another alpha in town. Especially if they were having issues with it while Derek was at school. Derek might of been kept out of the loop about other wolves coming to town...

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That seems to be the idea, I remember reading somewhere that Derek himself is "on the verge of becoming an Alpha" during the show's initial press campaign.

Here's a picture of the practical makeup for the Alpha:

http://werewolf-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tw.jpg


Yeah...I was wondering about that too. Right now that thing looks like it can break Derek in half...and it seems better at hiding itsself.

[Sugar]

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Watercooler-Teen-Wolfs-1034676.aspx

spoiler article with crystal reed

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http://www.mtv.com/photos/teen-wolf-ep-6-heart-monitor/1666780/6346967/photo.jhtml


pic of alpha killing derek...

[TVD_Lulu]

I haven't seen this show, but I have downloaded it :)

[Stiles]

Alright last night's episode had to be the first terrible episode of the season for me. The entire episode made no sense at all from start to finish.Here are a few questions i've got that made no sense to me.

Why was the Alpha wolf at the video rental store in the first place?

I missed a good chunk of the opening sequence in the episode but based on previews.The shelves get knocked over ontop of Jackson and some how he still lives to tell about it.

Good question. The spiral symbol was on top of the store so many there is a connection? Was it a target, or just a random kill?


Why did Scott and Allison skip school for the entire day and further more.Why didn't the school contact the parents right away when they were a no show?

This single part pulls apart the entire episode Allison mentions it's her birthday.So out of the blue Scott goes 'hey lets skip school today'. When they go to Allison's car campus police spot them yet they still leave the school grounds?

Where's the logic in this school has just started for the day,and both Scott and Allison get away. You'd think the minute the school police spot them they'd go "hey you two stop right there both of you need to go to class."

I dunno how your high school works, but schools usually don't send out the automated (A student in your household missed periods blah blah blah) messages for absences until the end of the day.


Why did Scott and Allison hang out in the forest all day?

This is what I couldn't wrap my head around both decide to skip school for the day.Out of all of the places they could go to spend quality time. They decide to walk around in a forest to just kiss off and on. Assuming for them school starts around 7 am-ish and the parent/teacher meetings were around 7 or 8pm.

They expect me to believe that Scott and Allison wasted about twelve or thirteen hours.Walking around in a forest just for the hell of it, for me after about half an hour i'd be bored to death.

it's a big forest? :rotfl:


What the hell is up with Stiles sexuality is he straight or gay?

This is something that was bouncing off the walls that I couldn't make heads or tails from. One minute he's throwing himself at Lydia and the next he's throwing the 'am I gay?' out there. Early in the episode out of the blue he asks another male students if he finds him attractive.

Then for no reason at all he drops by Lydia's house to visit her because he cares.With her doped up on meds which I don't think are ever explained. What she is taking she starts to hit on Stiles and he clearly comes off. Like he's thinks he going to get some action with her.When she asks him to stay so what's with these mixed signals the show is throwing at us? One minute the powers that be are throwing at us that he's gay and the next he's not. It's like the old days with Smallville where one minute lana's nice ,and then the next she's a spiteful b*tch.

I think it's pretty obvious he's straight.

If you remember from an earlier episode, Stiles was sitting beside Danny who gave him the cold shoulder. Later with Scott he asks "do gay guys not find me attractive?". Obviously the audience is supposed to take this as a joke, and Stiles is just curious I guess lol. That's why later he asks Danny if he finds him attractive or not haha. In the first episode, Scott said Danny was attractive--- does that make him gay? No.

Lydia was on drugs because she so shocked after seeing the Alpha. Stiles probably deleted the video so she wouldn't have to watch it ever again... Just lookin' out for her ;)

And Stiles is hopelessly in love with Lydia. He went over to question her about the Alpha sighting. She asks him to stay because she thinks he's Jackson :rotfl: Poor guy! Lydia always seems right through him.


Why did Kate and the other hunters drop by Derek's house?

Clearly Kate says before entering the house that they aren't going to kill him. Just drop by for a little chat but near the end of the scene. The minute she finds out Derek is in the dark about the Alpha's identity she tries to kill him. When just in the prior episode Allison's father makes it clear kill the alpha first then the pack. So where's the point in Kate saying she follows the code if she'll just break the rules anyway?

Because Kate is a psycho ***** and wanted to intimidate him, much like how her brother did early by busting up Derek's car.

Her brother told her not to kill him because they were sure Derek knew who the Alpha was. When Kate found out that Derek didn't, he became completely useless and so she tried to kill him. Probably going against some code again.

Just because she said something doesn't mean she will follow through :rotfl: They're building her up to be some bloodlusting wolf-hater.


Is Jackson a werewolf now?

Since Derek accidently stabbed Jackson with his claws that means he was infected.But up to now nothing which lacks complete logic to me. When Scott was bitten by the next day it was completely healed. Yet when Derek scratches him it's still there what gives?

In this series, it has to be a wolf BITE and not just a claw scratch.

People are speculating that the wolfsbane that got in Jackson's cut activated some latent wolf genes, or maybe he's just slowly being poisoned. No one's exactly, but imo since that wolf-crawling-out-mouth scene, I think it's the former.

Jackson is adopted so many he is related to the Alpha somehow, and that's why the Alpha didn't kill him when he could? He noticed the wolfsbane and figured Jackson might change, or just couldn't "man up" to kill him.


Why was Jackson messing up on his practice shots?

Ok Jackson is the captain of the team this would tell me he would have some skill.Granted I know nothing of the game but to see him missing over and over again. Just screams out 'lack of continuity' to me why was he aiming for the round circle? Doesn't he have a practice net at home to keep up with?

He is aiming at a can on a tree... Really small target, probably to build up his precision. And he's been on edge lately, stressed about Scott, the cut on his neck, his extreme perfectionism aaannnd he has drinking too.


Why did Scott wonder off on the school ground after being confronted by his mother.And Allison's father after the parent teacher meeting?

Literally after being stopped and asked 'where the hell have you been' an attack happens.Which leads to Scott walking off looking around strangely at that time. I was going hey why isn't Scott's mother telling him to stay put? You'd think she would have said 'Scott, get back here this instant i'm not done with you yet!'. Nope complete silence and further more we are lead to believe the alpha is attacking at the school. But out of the blue Allison's father kills I believe a mountain lion. Funny how that word was thrown around in the episode.

Yeah, that was kinda random. :rotfl: I didn't really understand why he started prowling around and Allison someone getting lost in a parking lot walking around like a blind lady :rotfl: Also why did Stiles blame Scott for Stiles' dad getting bumped by a car? How was that Scott's fault? lol


The character backgrounds goes against how the characters are shown in the episode.The action sequences with the exception of the Kate and Derek scene.Didn't pull me in,and the entire episode lacked complete logic. I really expected more from this show so I hope things improve from here on out.

The character backgrounds added a great dynamic to the characters and opened a lot of doors to new plot lines and character development. Jackson is adopted and obsessed with being perfect, Lydia is clearly suffering from her parents' divorce but covers it up like she does with her intelligence. Lydia seems to be faking it in front of everyone.

Great series, got me hooked. Too bad I will be missing the next 2 episodes (I'm going on a trip).

How are the ratings? I heard they have been pretty strong. Also, has it been renewed for another season yet? I hope we get a good bunch of seasons for this show, it has a lot of promise.

Stiles is downright hilarious. Dylan O'Brien plays him amazing. Didn't like the original Stiles at all.

Even though it's called a "remake", I really don't feel like it's a remake at all.

[Smartiepants]

I didn't take it as that...I thought he was just raising his finger to try to commuicate with Derek. Showing that he heard him. If it was someone who made it out of the fire, wouldn't Derek know who it is? He would know what his family looks like, plus why would they try to kill Derek?

His uncle could know if there is another alpha in town. Especially if they were having issues with it while Derek was at school. Derek might of been kept out of the loop about other wolves coming to town...

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Yeah...I was wondering about that too. Right now that thing looks like it can break Derek in half...and it seems better at hiding itsself.

For those of you who haven't watched episode 6, this could spoil it for you. you have been warned.

You know how the alpha comes behind Derek and attacks him? please tell me he comes back! he's one of my favourite characters and I would so sad if was dead. (warning, another spoiler here) And I watched the preview for night school, episode 7, and Stiles says he's dead! But he can't be dead!! How on earth will Scott live without him?!?:confused:

[Sugar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCiiqwVEaA

here's a sneak peek of episode 7... I don't think Scott would have sent that text.

[Smartiepants]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCiiqwVEaA

here's a sneak peek of episode 7... I don't think Scott would have sent that text.
That was way better than the one I saw. But your right, i don't think scott would send that text, considering how hard he's trying to keep Allison safe. So who would want Allison either gone or to find out about Scott's secret? Did they know she would come with Jackson and Lydia? So many questions, not enough answers.

[Sugar]

That was way better than the one I saw. But your right, i don't think scott would send that text, considering how hard he's trying to keep Allison safe. So who would want Allison either gone or to find out about Scott's secret? Did they know she would come with Jackson and Lydia? So many questions, not enough answers.

How about who knew that Scott was at the school? So that they were able to tell Allison to meet him there...

I wonder if it was the alpha or his friends...trying to use Allison as leverage against scott. Because it wasn't just her possibly finding out Scott's secret by going to the school...she's also in danger since the alpha is there as well.

I don't think they knew about Jackson and Lydia since Allison has her own car.

[Stiles]

It's good the show is raising questions, makes things more interesting :) this new episode looks great.

Make sure you guys tune in at 10

[Smartiepants]

So, who else thinks that Derek needs to live? I mean honestly what will Scott do without him? Of course he has Stiles, but Stiles doesn't have experience. Another question. If Scott happened to get really angry and bite Stiles but Stiles lives, does that make Stiles part of Scott's pack? since the Alpha bit Scott and now he is in the Alpha's pack? or does that make them both in the Alpha's pack? Or does that make Scott an Alpha?

[Smartiepants]

Also, I think Scott looks really cool when he only goes half werewolf. (When he has fangs and his eyes are yellow and he has claws) Like when he was playing the lacrosse game on Saturday, and he pulls off his glove, or when he tries to kill Stiles, ya know? His eyes look crossed sometimes when he goes total werewolf. anyone agree?

[Tebow15]

That Lydia is in on the wolf business and Jackson is up to know good. Jackson got the scratch from Derek, but Derek is no Alpha so how is jackson being controlled by the Alpha or maybe it's the other Alpha. Where is my boy Derek? I guess everyone will know Scott is a wolf next week. I hope he kills Jackson.

[Stiles]

Cool episode. So the Alpha wants Scott to kill his friends? I guess a pack only has to include minimum one wolf (guess that means the non-weres in the Hale family would also be considered part of the pack). The Alpha is very formal with all this pack stuff haha.

Wonder when Derek escaped? What's wrong with Jackson? Do you think he's going to turn into a werewolf? Since the Alpha's howl affected him too... Who the hell is the Alpha?! I think the vet is just a red herring who is assisting the Alpha somehow...

[Tebow15]

I think maybe the chemistry teacher is the alpha. Scott's mom could be the Alpha too.

[Sugar]

Really enjoyed Stiles punching Jackson! :D

[Tebow15]

I can't stand Jackson.

[Sugar]

That Lydia is in on the wolf business and Jackson is up to know good. Jackson got the scratch from Derek, but Derek is no Alpha so how is jackson being controlled by the Alpha or maybe it's the other Alpha. Where is my boy Derek? I guess everyone will know Scott is a wolf next week. I hope he kills Jackson.

I don't think Lydia knows anything...just what she saw at the video store...that a huge wolf thing is killing people. She's trying to pretend she didn't see anything.

I'm not sure if Jackson is being controlled or just nuts. Sitting there smiling about Scott's troubles while a werewolf is after them! They could have all died and he's worrying about Scott? Plus he tries to get Scott killed by giving Lydia the wrong stuff for the bomb? crazy...

[Tebow15]

I know some of the cast will die and I hope it's jackson and Derek comes back. Derek is my favorite. Allison is just another Lana IMHO. Kill her too.

[Sugar]

Cool episode. So the Alpha wants Scott to kill his friends? I guess a pack only has to include minimum one wolf (guess that means the non-weres in the Hale family would also be considered part of the pack). The Alpha is very formal with all this pack stuff haha.

Wonder when Derek escaped? What's wrong with Jackson? Do you think he's going to turn into a werewolf? Since the Alpha's howl affected him too... Who the hell is the Alpha?! I think the vet is just a red herring who is assisting the Alpha somehow...


I don't think Jackson will or can change into a wolf (at the moment). I think the scratch that Derek gave him with the wolfbane in his blood prevents him from changing now. I think when the alpha howled his body tried but the wolfbane in his blood prevented it. Jackson is a bit of a mystery since we don't know who his biological parents are and how the wolf family works. Like when does a child with the wolf gene first change?

We need Derek for more info!!

[Tebow15]

We need Derek to make the show great.

[Kumonga]

Remember, Derek's blood was dripping down all over his claws when he cut Jackson...but that blood was being poisoned by Wolfsbane. Maybe Derek's werewolf cells are trying to colonize Jackson's body, but as they do they're being infected by the Wolfsbane?

[Sugar]

I know some of the cast will die and I hope it's jackson and Derek comes back. Derek is my favorite. Allison is just another Lana IMHO. Kill her too.

Love Derek!

Jackson...is just too unstable for me to really like. I'm confused about what's going on with him.

[Tebow15]

Jackson is just a wipe.

[Sugar]

I think maybe the chemistry teacher is the alpha. Scott's mom could be the Alpha too.

I'm thinking the chemistry teacher as well...Scott's mom would be cool, but I don't think she would do that to her son. The coach is still on my list!

I understand the alpha wanting Scott to be rid of his old "pack" but...killing them??? Wouldn't that bring a lot of attention to the town, to Scott, the school...the wolves?

[Tebow15]

yeah, Why kill them? it seems kinda stupid. Where was the alpha when Clark was hung up on Lana? LOL

[Sugar]

Remember, Derek's blood was dripping down all over his claws when he cut Jackson...but that blood was being poisoned by Wolfsbane. Maybe Derek's werewolf cells are trying to colonize Jackson's body, but as they do they're being infected by the Wolfsbane?



Yeah, that's something I was thinking about...but I thought it was a bite that did that and not just a scratch? Derek knew that he scratched Jackson but he doesn't seem concern... Of course, he might not realize he got blood on him. I really hope Stiles brings this up...he's the only one that saw what happened to Jackson in the classroom after the alpha's howl that knows what's going on.

[Kumonga]

The benefits might outweigh the risks for the Alpha. Killing off Scott's old human pack means there's less that can give Scott the strength to continue to hold on to humanity. In the Alpha's mind if Scott's friends and family is dead, then there's little else in the human world that Scott will have ties to. Nothing to prevent Scott from becoming a kill crazy bastard like him...

[Sugar]

Makes sense...

[Kumonga]

Yeah, that's something I was thinking about...but I thought it was a bite that did that and not just a scratch? Derek knew that he scratched Jackson but he doesn't seem concern... Of course, he might not realize he got blood on him. I really hope Stiles brings this up...he's the only one that saw what happened to Jackson in the classroom after the alpha's howl that knows what's going on.

Maybe he figured Jackson would die. Or maybe direct blood to blood transfer is something of a crapshoot so he's just banking on the chance that Jackson got lucky.

[Sugar]

Got to say i wasn't a fan of Scott blaming Derek for everything...Derek didn't deserve that.

[Kumonga]

Got to say i wasn't a fan of Scott blaming Derek for everything...Derek didn't deserve that.

Have not seen the episode yet, so I'm extrapolating from comments I'm seeing on the web.

In fairness, Derek should have been explaining things about the Alpha, the pack, and the Alpha's ability to put the whammy on Scott from the very beginning. His crypticness makes for good drama, and a scene where he just sits Scott down and lays out the rules of werewolfery nice and tidy would have probably broken the entire show, but it's not very practical in a life or death situation.

Also, consider the fact that to Scott the Alpha is just some faceless bogeyman and he still doesn't completely trust Derek. It's kind of hard to blame your problems on some dark, furry shape galloping along a rooftop when Derek is right there and the two of them clearly don't see eye to eye.

[Sugar]

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/671846/panic-attack.jhtml#id=1667074


Here's a few sneak peeks for episode 8...

[Kumonga]

Okay, I'm going to talk about something right now that I don't think has crossed anyone else's minds. I'm really, really digging the sound design for the show. Not the music, but the sound mixing for the werewolf's roars and howls and stuff. I'm rewatching the scene where Scott calls the Alpha and that roar/howl he does is just badass.

I like that they just didn't dub in a bunch of animal/dinosaur noises they found in stock.

[Sugar]

I agree. I think it's pretty good. If you thought Scott's was badass, wait until you hear the alpha's.

i kind of felt sorry for Scott in this episode...with the alpha letting him know who's boss.

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Have not seen the episode yet, so I'm extrapolating from comments I'm seeing on the web.

In fairness, Derek should have been explaining things about the Alpha, the pack, and the Alpha's ability to put the whammy on Scott from the very beginning. His crypticness makes for good drama, and a scene where he just sits Scott down and lays out the rules of werewolfery nice and tidy would have probably broken the entire show, but it's not very practical in a life or death situation.



I agree, and Derek mentioned in an episode that if he told Scott everything now that Scott wouldn't need him and Derek wouldn't have any leverage over Scott to help him kill the alpha.

I just think a "I don't know what's happening you guys. Why are you looking at me?" would have worked without putting the blame on anyone. Even though Derek has been cryptic, he just had all his family killed. He's alone. And though I think Derek probably doesn't care about Scott, Derek is definitely a better choice to teach Scott then the alpha.

[Sugar]

So, who else thinks that Derek needs to live? I mean honestly what will Scott do without him? Of course he has Stiles, but Stiles doesn't have experience. Another question. If Scott happened to get really angry and bite Stiles but Stiles lives, does that make Stiles part of Scott's pack? since the Alpha bit Scott and now he is in the Alpha's pack? or does that make them both in the Alpha's pack? Or does that make Scott an Alpha?

Good question. :lol: I'm not sure...I don't know how wolf packs operate. I was thinking you might have to be an alpha to have a pack. But can beta wolves actually turn someone else or can only alphas turn people? So many questions...

[Kumonga]

Good question. :lol: I'm not sure...I don't know how wolf packs operate. I was thinking you might have to be an alpha to have a pack. But can beta wolves actually turn someone else or can only alphas turn people? So many questions...

I don't know if the werewolf pack in the show operates like a true wolf pack does, so maybe it's not the same.

We don't even know how betas become alphas, if it's a natural process that happens over time as part of a life cycle or if something needs to be done first. If Scott kills the alpha, does that make him the new alpha since he's the only other member of the alpha's pack we know about? Could Derek adopt Scott into his pack once he becomes an alpha?

Where do omegas fit into all this? They got identified in the pre-release stuff to and it was mentioned that they can only turn into full wolves, how do they fit into the life cycle? Seeing as how Scott didn't immediately go to the back of the line and started out as a beta rather than an omega it seems to hint that they're a separate species.

[Superboy2]

I don't agree with with Scott blaming it on Derek cause he doesn't know if he's dead. Should've said someone was after them and didn't know why.

[Clois4eva89]

I didn't like that Scott threw Derek under the bus after he's been trying to help Scott. Also why would Jackson be smirking after Stiles punched him? He's acting like getting hit works to his favor,and why try to steal Allison from Scott? There's been no explanation to why he would want Allison. To me Lydia is the weakest link out of all the characters all she does. Is come off as annoying any whines about trivial stuff. I really hope she dies by the end of the season,and if Jackson doesn't want to be with her anymore. As he's been hinting at earlier in Night School then dump her. It's like he's waiting for her to call it quits so he doesn't have to.

[Tebow15]

I didn't like him blaming Derek either. Derek is my fav.

[Stiles]

Yeah I don't think anyone even believes that Derek is the killer. Lydia and Jackson are probably afraid to sound crazy saying that there's a giant humanoid monster lol and Allison is in the dark about everything haha poor girl.

I wonder if Jackson's affection for Allison is genuine? Sometimes it looks like he might like her, but it's also really suspicious... Probably just trying to get back at Scott somehow, or try to weasel out some secrets.

Preview for next episode looks awesome.

[KneelBeforeSmallville]

The last episode were there trapped in the school was awesome! It was scary, emotional, and just plain fun. I hope they do more episodes like that!

I really enjoyed Jackson, Allison an Stiles in this episode. Strong performances.

[Kal-El De Krypton]

I think the Alpha is someone who lost someone in the fire. Now, he wanna gets his vengeance, killing everybody on his way.

I also think they were 2 Alphas at school. Because while an Alpha was in the hallway the other was in the ceiling. Also, the Alpha in the hallway was too quiet.

[Superboy2]

One good Alpha, one bad. I wonder if the alpha that attacked Jackson has a psychic link with him and is trying to get Allison away from Scott. That and trying to find out more about Scott.

[Sugar]

http://www.ksitetv.com/7096/mtv-picks-up-teen-wolf-for-season-2/

[Tebow15]

cool news thanks

[MarvelXY]

Good show, but something is missing.

They really need to flesh out the show a bit next season.

[Clois4eva89]

Awesome i'm happy the show was green lit for Season 2 to fill the entire summer next year. Now if Rookie Blue gets a Season 3 my 2012 summer television list will be perfect.

[Superboy2]

Same here. That and Haven.

[Clois/is/hot]

Cool last episode. They're all trapped in a school and then we find out the Alpha wants to get Scott to kill his friends. Glad this show got renewed for a 2nd season.

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I didn't like that Scott threw Derek under the bus after he's been trying to help Scott. Also why would Jackson be smirking after Stiles punched him? He's acting like getting hit works to his favor,and why try to steal Allison from Scott? There's been no explanation to why he would want Allison.

I wonder if Jackson's affection for Allison is genuine? Sometimes it looks like he might like her, but it's also really suspicious... Probably just trying to get back at Scott somehow, or try to weasel out some secrets.


One good Alpha, one bad. I wonder if the alpha that attacked Jackson has a psychic link with him and is trying to get Allison away from Scott. That and trying to find out more about Scott.

If the Alpha somehow has a psychic link with Jackson...maybe he isn't necessary trying to get Jackson to take away Allison from Scott BUT using Jackson to get Scott jealous & angry enough to KILL Allison.

[Stiles]

That's a good theory.

[Xanderman]

Well I've figured it out (it's pretty obvious when you think about it). There are 2 alphas: One is Scott's missing/never-seen/never-talked-about dad (he's the one that bit Scott). The other is Scott's mom, and she's after Scott's dad (the other alpha) for years of unpaid child support. D'oh. :lol:

But seriously, great show and glad it's getting another season.




i was also wondering about where scott's dad is? it's the only other small way they could tie up certain things with the movie if it's revealed that the alpha werwolf is scott's dad. the difference is that he's not the good guy like the movie.Scott's no-show dad is definitely one of the alphas.


i was watching both teen wolf movies and couldn't stop laughing at how michael j. fox looks like chewbacca and jason bateman looks like a chimp.I don't think I remember ever seeing the sequel...been years since I've seen the original but yeah he did look kind of goofy/cheesy in that no question, but of course, so was the movie so I suppose it fit. This new show is doing a great job making the alphas menacing.


Scott's mother mentioned again that his father left them and he was no good. It could be a clue. She did eh...I don't remember that. I don't remember the father ever being mentioned, guess I gotta pay closer attention. Dad is definitely an alpha.


I think that when it comes to alphas and betas (like Scott and Derek), it's not about being a leader of a pack, but rather about the type of transformation. Betas transform partially, and alphas transform completely.
Yes that's how it would appear right now eh...maybe though a more complete change is something that comes with age or more experience, skill in controlling it, etc. Or maybe you have to be born a werewolf to be able to become the the more full version. Or maybe you have to kill/take a life for the transformation to become complete, giving it a more supernatural element. I'm hoping the show can stay away from being overly supernatural with all this though and instead give a more scientific explanation for the werewolf "species".


I don't think Jackson will or can change into a wolf (at the moment). I think the scratch that Derek gave him with the wolfbane in his blood prevents him from changing now. I think when the alpha howled his body tried but the wolfbane in his blood prevented it. Jackson is a bit of a mystery since we don't know who his biological parents are and how the wolf family works. Like when does a child with the wolf gene first change? Derek had wolfsbane in his blood at the time eh....I forgot about that plotpoint. I was thinking that maybe Jackson was slowly becoming a werewolf or something because his was only scratched instead of bitten (so it's taking longer but eventually he'll mutate). But the wolfsbane thing changes things, forgot about that... Being a natural-born wolf is another possibility indeed. If there are indeed 2 alphas, maybe one is Scott's dad, and the other is Jackson's. I have a feeling that Scott is also a natural-born wolf, and the bite he received in the series premiere only triggered or sped up the process. Either way, Papa Alpha wants his little boy to follow in his footsteps and take over the family business one day. If his father is "good", he may need Scott to "wolf up" (the werewolf equivalent to manning up) because of a clear and present danger that threatens them all, or werewolf kind, or whatever. Jackson's evil alpha dad and their brood have to be kept in line. Probably some sort of centuries long blood feud or rivalry going on, between honorable wolves and rabid ones. heh


Got to say i wasn't a fan of Scott blaming Derek for everything...Derek didn't deserve that.Yeah, Scott's a little rat, just like his papa (the alpha). Except Dad is of course a much larger, much hairier rat... :lol:

[Sugar]

Wow...Allison's entire family is crazy...

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Here's a sneak peek of episode 9...

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/673536/dig-a-little-deeper.jhtml#id=1667409

[Clois/is/hot]

We got to see evil Scott and those looks he would give with his eyes rolled up...eek!

Anyway I just want to say Derek is Back! Derek is Back!:D

I kept waiting & wondering when Derek would show up. Which btw I was disappointed to Scott's first reaction in seeing Derek after he stop wolfing and they were in his room. Scotts is all mopy "I can't do this and be with Allison" NOT "Derek you're alive!I'm so sorry for accusing you of murder you didn't commit." and "Thank you for stoping me from killing Allison & Jackson."

Scott better make things right with Derek & the police.





Wow...Allison's entire family is crazy...


Yeah I was not expecting Allison's mom to pop up & say that. Looks like the mom is going to play a bigger part in the show than I originally thought. Heck this might mean we shouldn't take any character for granted.




Here's a sneak peek of episode 9...

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/673536/dig-a-little-deeper.jhtml#id=1667409

Interesting. So Jackson was there in the fire that killed Derek's family. IDK if this means Jackson & Derek are related or not Thanks for posting.

[Sugar]

Interesting. So Jackson was there in the fire that killed Derek's family. IDK if this means Jackson & Derek are related or not Thanks for posting.


At first I was thinking that Jackson was seeing some of Derek's memories since it looks like he had Derek's nail stuck in him. But Derek wasn't there during the fire so he wouldn't have that memory. Jackson couldn't have been there, since he's too old. It would have had to have happen when he was a baby and the fire didn't happen that far back. I don't think they are related... the only person I could think of that would have that memory would be the Uncle and the persons who started the fire. Unless someone else survived it that Derek doesn't about...and didn't know was in the house.

I'm really confused about Jackson's part in all the werewolf stuff.

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Anyway I just want to say Derek is Back! Derek is Back!:D

I





So happy about that! :D The episode was almost over and I started to think he wasn't going to show up!

[dressed]

I don't think Derek or Jackson was involved in the fire. Notice that Jackson didn't begin to have physical responses to the scratch until the alpha tampered with the scratch. I believe the alpha was involved with the fire and I think the alpha transferred his memory to Jackson some how.

[Clois/is/hot]

At first I was thinking that Jackson was seeing some of Derek's memories since it looks like he had Derek's nail stuck in him. But Derek wasn't there during the fire so he wouldn't have that memory. Jackson couldn't have been there, since he's too old. It would have had to have happen when he was a baby and the fire didn't happen that far back. I don't think they are related... the only person I could think of that would have that memory would be the Uncle and the persons who started the fire. Unless someone else survived it that Derek doesn't about...and didn't know was in the house. .

Oh how long ago was the fire? I didn't catch Derek or anyone saying when.
I thought the writers were being vague about it and how old Jackson was when adopted so my first thought after watching the clip was the fire happened when Jackson was little but might of blocked it out because of tramatic experience until now.

Didn't think about Jackson having a memory connection with Derek' Uncle until you pointed it out. Good theory... Derek's blood mixes with Jackson so now he is linked to the Uncle because of the bloodline.



I'm really confused about Jackson's part in all the werewolf stuff.


Me too.
We don't know if certain things happen with him because being adopted, his scratch, or just jeolusy of Scott.



So happy about that! :D The episode was almost over and I started to think he wasn't going to show up!

For a moment there I thought we were all wrong and we would never see him again. Sneeky writers.lol

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I don't think Derek or Jackson was involved in the fire. Notice that Jackson didn't begin to have physical responses to the scratch until the alpha tampered with the scratch. I believe the alpha was involved with the fire and I think the alpha transferred his memory to Jackson some how.

Could be. The scratch did glow when the Alpha looked at Jackson's scratch for some reason.

[Tebow15]

This Jackson business is so confusing.

I hate whiney Scott...Allison, allison...who cares man up and wolf-up.

I love me some Stiles

OMG!!!! My Derek is back.

[Clois4eva89]

I'm still waiting for the moment where Derek knees Scott below the belt and says 'That's for framing me for murder you %$@&~!'.

[Tebow15]

Yeah, that was crappy of Scott to do not once, but it's the 2nd time.

[vyperman7]

I haven't watched this show yet. Just curious what people think? Anything that is vampire or werewolf oriented I usually try to catch. I am going to wait until S1 ends, and then watch all the eps back to back. I am skeptical though since it is an MTV show and has absolutely nothing to do with the movie other than character names. Hell even the sport is different. They should have at least kept basketball as the main sport. It will be interesting though to see a more dramatic take on it.

*** The movie with MJF is my favorite childhood movie. I must have watched it ten times or more after it was release. Granted, I see a few things differently when I watch the movie now then I did as a kid..LOL Still though, love it to death. I was happy when it received a Blu-Ray release. I don't see Teen Wolf Too getting one though.. Ha Ha..

[hellnback]

i'm pretty sure teen wolf 2 will get a blu ray release at some point. they'll probably do the same thing they did with it on dvd.....release on the same disc with part 1.

ok i think scott's dad is one of the alphas. but i bet he's the good guy. just cuz he took off on scott and his mom doesn't automatically make him a bad guy. he probably left to protect them and not have them involved in his world of werewolves. if this is so then scott didn't get the wolf genes from his dad and therefore he wasn't a werewolf from birth. the other alpha was the one that turned him and there has to be a reason behind it. maybe a connection. feuding families of werewolves? who knows.

so they finally used the "give me a keg of beer" line. but obviously changed up a bit. that part of scott telling that guy to give him back the jack made me laugh a little.

the previous episode where scott was on the basketball court was a reference too to the movie. he starts to freak out and turn. then gets attacked by the alpha. although in the movie he gets caught up in the middle of everyone else and when he breaks free he's turned.

good stuff so far.

[BlueRanger]

Awesome i'm happy the show was green lit for Season 2 to fill the entire summer next year. Now if Rookie Blue gets a Season 3 my 2012 summer television list will be perfect.


Until summer next year?

Thats a long wait.:(

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I haven't watched this show yet. Just curious what people think? Anything that is vampire or werewolf oriented I usually try to catch. I am going to wait until S1 ends, and then watch all the eps back to back. I am skeptical though since it is an MTV show and has absolutely nothing to do with the movie other than character names. Hell even the sport is different. They should have at least kept basketball as the main sport. It will be interesting though to see a more dramatic take on it.




i never expected such quality from an MTV show, was skeptical at first but its really dark, which I like. Its good gun check it out.

I love it they have Lacrosse instead of basketball or just football, those sports are played out and just so typical Teen shows fluff. The change is awesome with how rough th sport is, and how more "exotic" it seems. besides Scoty is pretty good at it, lol.

[Smartiepants]

I think maybe the chemistry teacher is the alpha. Scott's mom could be the Alpha too.

I don't think that it's Scott's mom. She just too... i dunno, un-wolf like. She's been working on both full moons we've seen in the show, and we all know would happen if Scott did that. There's a slight possibility that she was born with it, but wouldn't Scott be able to sense it? and wouldn't that make it more likely for Scott to have had it since birth? I think it's just too much; Scott's life is already hard, but that would be like torture for him. I read in a comment on a different site that maybe it was Scott's dad. I mean, there isn't a lot that we know about him, making him mysterious. It's quite possible that he could be the alpha, but I'm not sure what his motivations would be for making Scott kill his "pack". If it is his dad, wouldn't he want Scott to be happy? wouldn't he want to protect him, like Scott does for Allison? I dunno, there are a lot of possible answers to who at least one of the alphas is. BUT, i do not think it is Lydia, because Lydia was sincerely scared when the alpha jumped out the window. Also, the Alpha wants Scott to kill her, and there is no way that Lydia would have let him go out there to find it, if she had known what he was up against, not based on what happened between the two of them.

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awesome i'm happy the show was green lit for season 2 to fill the entire summer next year. Now if rookie blue gets a season 3 my 2012 summer television list will be perfect.
2012????!!!!????!!! I cannot wait that long! Thats a whole year! Hello! Can't they release it in fall of 2011??? Come on people, that's a lot of mondays without teen wolf!!

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Remember, Derek's blood was dripping down all over his claws when he cut Jackson...but that blood was being poisoned by Wolfsbane. Maybe Derek's werewolf cells are trying to colonize Jackson's body, but as they do they're being infected by the Wolfsbane?
You guys are seriously confusing me! Wolfsbane doesn't keep them from changing, it makes them change. Remeber when Stiles brought it with him and Scott in the Jeep and Scott went all werewolf for like, the rest of the day? (the rest of the day because it was night when he tried to get Allison.) Also, someone explain why everyone keeps saying Derek had wolfsbane in his blood. When did that happen? the wolfsbane around his sister kept her in a wolf form, i'm geussing so that if someone found it they would see a wolf, not a girl. Help?:confused:

[Sugar]

so they finally used the "give me a keg of beer" line. but obviously changed up a bit. that part of scott telling that guy to give him back the jack made me laugh a little.




:lol: i was wondering if anyone else had noticed that...I think I like the way they did it in the movie better since they had the voice effect when he did it.

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I'm starting to think maybe the Coach might be the evil alpha...they've been pointing at the chemistry teacher and the vet too much, it makes me think it might be someone else.

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Also, someone explain why everyone keeps saying Derek had wolfsbane in his blood. When did that happen? the wolfsbane around his sister kept her in a wolf form, i'm geussing so that if someone found it they would see a wolf, not a girl. Help?:confused:

When Derek was shot with that special bullet that Kate had. That bullet had a rare type of wolfsbane in it.

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I haven't watched this show yet. Just curious what people think? Anything that is vampire or werewolf oriented I usually try to catch. I am going to wait until S1 ends, and then watch all the eps back to back. I am skeptical though since it is an MTV show and has absolutely nothing to do with the movie other than character names. Hell even the sport is different. They should have at least kept basketball as the main sport. It will be interesting though to see a more dramatic take on it.

*** The movie with MJF is my favorite childhood movie. I must have watched it ten times or more after it was release. Granted, I see a few things differently when I watch the movie now then I did as a kid..LOL Still though, love it to death. I was happy when it received a Blu-Ray release. I don't see Teen Wolf Too getting one though.. Ha Ha..

I think the show reminds me a bit of The Vampire Diaries in tone. TVD has better actors though. It's surprising good for a MTV show...

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ok i think scott's dad is one of the alphas. but i bet he's the good guy. just cuz he took off on scott and his mom doesn't automatically make him a bad guy. he probably left to protect them and not have them involved in his world of werewolves. if this is so then scott didn't get the wolf genes from his dad and therefore he wasn't a werewolf from birth. the other alpha was the one that turned him and there has to be a reason behind it. maybe a connection. feuding families of werewolves? who knows.
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I didn't think there was a reasoning behind Scott getting turned. I just thought it was an accident. How would the alpha know that he would be out in the woods at that time of night? But I am curious to find out if it was intentional or not.

[Smartiepants]

Those of you who are confused about Jackson relating to all this werewolf stuff, don't fret! The mystery makes you wonder, makes you use your imagination. Honestly, I think we need more of that in the world.

[Sugar]

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/673248/search-for-a-cure-ep-5.jhtml#id=1666465

If you guys have been keeping up with the webisodes...#5 explains a little more about werewolves...

[Smartiepants]

Okay, but how do we know that there was wolfsbane in the bullet that Kate(she scares me) shot Derek with? (I love him, but he bothers me cause i don't know enough about him). ???

[Kumonga]

Okay, but how do we know that there was wolfsbane in the bullet that Kate(she scares me) shot Derek with? (I love him, but he bothers me cause i don't know enough about him). ???

...Because they were in a box labelled Wolfsbane?

[Clois/is/hot]

I haven't watched this show yet. Just curious what people think? Anything that is vampire or werewolf oriented I usually try to catch. I am going to wait until S1 ends, and then watch all the eps back to back. I am skeptical though since it is an MTV show and has absolutely nothing to do with the movie other than character names. Hell even the sport is different. They should have at least kept basketball as the main sport. It will be interesting though to see a more dramatic take on it.
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It's pretty good. The show balances dark horror with alot of humor (it knows its roots comes from a movie that was a comedy) and it's good at keeping its mystery going which we are all racking our brains over lol.
This is pretty much me most of the time watching an episode :eek: to this :lol: then to this :eek::confused: then to this:rotfl: and finally this :).





Okay, but how do we know that there was wolfsbane in the bullet that Kate(she scares me) shot Derek with? (I love him, but he bothers me cause i don't know enough about him). ???

Kate? What about Allison's mom?

Allison's mom: (sinister voice) "You FIND him! You KILL him! You CUT him in half!" (then cheerful voice) "Anybody want a cookie?"

:rotfl::rotfl:

[vyperman7]

Do the werewolves in this show actually stand on two feet, or is the show following the annoying trend of having the characters turn into an actual wolf with glowing eyes? Wolf Lake started this trend way back when and ever since we get the character turning into a regular wolf. I was really disappointed with the Vampire Diaries and The Gates in this aspect. The worst werewolf FX would have to be for the Twilight series. Look like big CGI dogs.. A werewolf should either stand on two feet, or be considerably scarier looking than a regular wolf.

My favorite werewolf FX :

1) Werewolf - The show that aired on FOX back in the late 80's
2) American Werwolf in London - The transformation scene is perhaps the most realistic and well done horror FX sequence ever caught on film. Watching the movie on Blu-Ray is quite an experience because you feel like you are right there in the room with him. Especially when watching on my 46in LED 1080p TV.
** Rick Baker did the FX on both Werewolf and AWIL..
3) The Monster Squad - Classic wolfman look but much better than the Lon Chaney FX back in the 40's.

[Smartiepants]

...Because they were in a box labelled Wolfsbane?

Oh... I think I'm gonna watch that one again, considering it seems like I've missed so much. :D

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It's pretty good. The show balances dark horror with alot of humor (it knows its roots comes from a movie that was a comedy) and it's good at keeping its mystery going which we are all racking our brains over lol.
This is pretty much me most of the time watching an episode :eek: to this :lol: then to this :eek::confused: then to this:rotfl: and finally this :).






Kate? What about Allison's mom?

Allison's mom: (sinister voice) "You FIND him! You KILL him! You CUT him in half!" (then cheerful voice) "Anybody want a cookie?"

:rotfl::rotfl:
She's not so scary, becuase she's just a protecctive mother trying to protect her only daughter. Kate, on the other hand, Drives around in a vehicle with guns and strange bullets that will kill mostly everything, she looks like scary, just the way she looks at Chris (Allisons Dad) and she isn't afraid to use an electrocuting stick (that's what i'm calling it) on a half-human. I probably couldn't do that if the Alpha had been trying to kill me!!! Not to mention she let Allison use a stun gun on her teddy bear. No way could I do that. Sure, Allison's mom wants them to do it, but she won't do it herself.

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I was thinking. What if Allison had sibling who was killed by werewolves? that would make Allison's mother's anger even more understandable. The only thing is that he would have to be killed before Allison was born, but that would work. It would also be one reason why the Argents would know about the werewolves and give them a motive. However, Allison does tell Lydia that her ancestors hunted one, and Derek says that the hunters have been hunting werewolves for centuries, but we haven't found out if the Argents had been hunting them for centuries, since Scott doesn't know it's Allison's Dad until the end of episode one, after he has shifted for the first time.

[Clois/is/hot]

Do the werewolves in this show actually stand on two feet, or is the show following the annoying trend of having the characters turn into an actual wolf with glowing eyes? Wolf Lake started this trend way back when and ever since we get the character turning into a regular wolf. I was really disappointed with the Vampire Diaries and The Gates in this aspect. The worst werewolf FX would have to be for the Twilight series. Look like big CGI dogs.. A werewolf should either stand on two feet, or be considerably scarier looking than a regular wolf.

My favorite werewolf FX :

1) Werewolf - The show that aired on FOX back in the late 80's
2) American Werwolf in London - The transformation scene is perhaps the most realistic and well done horror FX sequence ever caught on film. Watching the movie on Blu-Ray is quite an experience because you feel like you are right there in the room with him. Especially when watching on my 46in LED 1080p TV.
** Rick Baker did the FX on both Werewolf and AWIL..
3) The Monster Squad - Classic wolfman look but much better than the Lon Chaney FX back in the 40's.

You'll be happy to know they DON'T use regular wolves to play werewolves. (I agree with what you said in the bolded).

Vyperman, I'm not sure how spoilery me explaining the werewolves on the show so read with caution:

They have different types of werewolves in the show (cool idea).


Betas & Alphas they've shown so far.
Betas are wolf like face, glowing eyes, claws but not much body hair in fact they're chest is bare (which they show often)...hey they want to appeal to the female audience;). Basically they're a scarier version of Eddie Munster.lol

Alphas are the the type of werewolves you'll love. Big, scary, hairy all over. More along the lines of American Werewolf in London. You don't see them in full view too often because remember it's budget but it IMO adds to with the show horror/suspense.

Both can stand up on two feet and when chasing someone goes on all fours.

[Clois/is/hot]

She's not so scary, becuase she's just a protecctive mother trying to protect her only daughter. Kate, on the other hand, Drives around in a vehicle with guns and strange bullets that will kill mostly everything, she looks like scary, just the way she looks at Chris (Allisons Dad) and she isn't afraid to use an electrocuting stick (that's what i'm calling it) on a half-human. I probably couldn't do that if the Alpha had been trying to kill me!!! Not to mention she let Allison use a stun gun on her teddy bear. No way could I do that. Sure, Allison's mom wants them to do it, but she won't do it herself.
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I was mostly joking around with my post and been really wanting to quote that line lol. I wish this show had its own forum with different threads like one for favorite lines. I would be quoting often tons of funny lines from the show...probably mostly from Stiles:lol:.

These are my thoughts of Allison's family so far:

Chris (Allison's dad): He only hunts werewolves to protect humans and strickly follows the hunter's code. If the werewolve is not a threat to humans he won't kill them. He very precauses in the way he does things.

Kate (Allison's aunt): She hunts for the thrill of it. She doesn't give a rat's a** about the code and it annoys her that her brother always wants to follow it. The whole jumping into danger to hunt and intimdating men is very exhilarating to her.

IDK what to make of Allison's mom, yet to me in THAT scene she came off as something along the lines of SVGranny Goodness but without powers. She'll be baking cookies & smiling at you while ordering her female fur..er hunters to torture you.....or maaaybee burn down your house. Hmmmm...

Oh and just because Allison's mom orders/wants others to kill and we haven't seen her kill anyone on the show, yet doesn't necessary mean she won't kill someone herself. (see Gus from Breaking Bad )

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http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/673248/search-for-a-cure-ep-5.jhtml#id=1666465

If you guys have been keeping up with the webisodes...#5 explains a little more about werewolves...

I totally forgot about the webisodes. Thank you for posting. Now I watched them all (boy Stiles & Scott are hilarous in it) interesting stuff the doctor revealed.

[Superboy2]

So can beta's become Alpha's eventually like an evolution thing? Cause Derek said his sister was an alpha and he's a beta. I'm assuming Derek is only 2-3 years older than Scott. Also, can beta's turn people too? I like that they don't become real wolves and instead are humans who look wolf-like and then giant wolves who can walk on two feet. I really wanna know whats going on with Jackson. He pretty much has figured Scott out. I wonder if his parent(s) are werewolves and for some reason he isn't.

[Kumonga]

Do the werewolves in this show actually stand on two feet, or is the show following the annoying trend of having the characters turn into an actual wolf with glowing eyes? Wolf Lake started this trend way back when and ever since we get the character turning into a regular wolf. I was really disappointed with the Vampire Diaries and The Gates in this aspect. The worst werewolf FX would have to be for the Twilight series. Look like big CGI dogs.. A werewolf should either stand on two feet, or be considerably scarier looking than a regular wolf.


This, so much.

Though we will get man to full wolf style werewolf with the omegas, if they ever show up.

[Smartiepants]

Okay, so I was thinking again, and I don't think that the Alpha whom we have named the "Good" Alpha is Scott's dad. Before the Night School episode, there was a thing in an article and one of the actresses said we have already seen two Alphas. Seen. That would mean that Scott's dad is probably either the "Bad" Alpha or no alpha at all. And, i'm starting to think that one of the alpha's, most likely the bad one, is someone in the school, because at the beggining of the day in the latest episode, Scott is normal. Then he takes the test and things get a little weird, but he's not being a Jerk yet. As the day wore on he got worse and worse, hitting danny too hard, then not caring if everyone hated him, making out with Lydia, being a jerk to Stiles in his room, not to mention he climbed in the window, and then going off to try and kill Allison and Jackson. So I think the Alpha had to have been near by to have an effect on Scott, like when they were in the school. Also, i think the Alpha is afraid of Derek. After he shows up to stop Scott from killing Allison and jackson, Scott isn't acting like jerk or being angry or wanting to kill them. He doesn't understand any more. So I think Derek was an un expected surprise for the alpha, and he's scared of Derek. a question: Why wasn't Scott shifting back into a human after he and Derek stopped fighting? He was obviously calm enough to, but he didn't shift back until soemtime between Derek saying, "exactyly what he wants to happen." and them arriving at his house.

[dressed]

I thought the other alpha was derek's sister?

[Smartiepants]

I thought the other alpha was derek's sister?

I don't think so. She could turn into an actual wolf, not the strange wolfish thing that the alphas turn into.

[Sugar]

I thought the other alpha was derek's sister?


I think someone suggested that she might have been an Omega wolf...

[Smartiepants]

I think someone suggested that she might have been an Omega wolf...

Yes, that's what I read too

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I think it's possible that the girl who Stiles and Scott talk to in the first episode could be an Alpha. You know, the one who says, " can someone explain how new girl has been here for all of five minutes and she's already hanging out with Lydia's clique?" I think it would be easy for her to be the alpha, since she could have controlled Scott at school, she knows who he's been hanging out with, and (not that this makes a huge difference, but..) she was the first to notice they found something after Scott's dream about nearly killing Allison on the bus.

[Clois/is/hot]

So can beta's become Alpha's eventually like an evolution thing?.

I've been wondering that too if one can become the other. If so does it come with age or does a Beta have to kill inorder to come an Alpha?

Or is it if your'e a Beta you stay a Beta forever and if you're an Alpha you're an Alpha forever?



Cause Derek said his sister was an alpha and he's a beta. I'm assuming Derek is only 2-3 years older than Scott.

When did Derek say his sister was an Alpha?
All I remember him saying his sister was looking for the Alpha.



Also, can beta's turn people too?

I have no idea for sure but I'm leaning towards no.

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I think someone suggested that she might have been an Omega wolf...

Was it spoiled that we get another type of werewolf called Omega?

If so than I think Derek sister was an Omega. It would explain why she looked different than the Alpha that was killing people.

[Kumonga]

Yeah, Omegas were mentioned during an interview as going "full wolf" or something.

Considering that Omega is the lowest rank in the wolf pack, my guess is that Omega werewolves are the weakest breed. So basically True Blood werewolves. :p

[Smartiepants]

Hey! If you're going to comment, go back yo page 14, and read the comment at the very bottom. I warn you, it's pretty long.

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Guys, don't say I'm stupid, but I just now figured out something: maybe the thing Derek wants in exchange for teaching Scott how to control the shift and stuff, is for Scott to help him find the Alpha. Again, please don't make a comment about how that's kind of dumb that I just realized that now, cause I already know.

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Do you think that Derek catches his own food? since he can control when he shifts? Maybe he eats birds and rabbits and gophers and foxes and other animals he can catch. I really don't think he has any power in that little house of his. (I think it's most likely his house, since stiles says it is and Derek just says they can't go there if he can't defend himself.)

[Clois/is/hot]

Yeah, Omegas were mentioned during an interview as going "full wolf" or something.

Considering that Omega is the lowest rank in the wolf pack, my guess is that Omega werewolves are the weakest breed. So basically True Blood werewolves. :p

Thanks for the info.:D

[Xanderman]

Kate: How about you tell me EVERYTHING that Scott said about Derek.
Allison: What do you mean by everything?
Kate: I mean *long pause* EVERYTHING.
Allison: I still don't know what you mean by everything...
Kate: EVERYTHING.
Allison: Something?
Kate: No....EVERYTHING.
Allison: What if I don't know much?
Kate: ANYTHING.
Allison: I know nothing...
Kate: Then tell me EVERYTHING you know about nothing you little--
Allison: Everything?


Lunatic was the best episode of the series. Awesome episode. I'll be very surprised if Scott's dad isn't the Alpha (or an Alpha). Especially after all of Derek's drama about Scott having to kill the Alpha to free himself of the curse. Scott having to kill his own dad to be free is the cornerstone of any good tale about adolescence. heh





I didn't think there was a reasoning behind Scott getting turned. I just thought it was an accident. How would the alpha know that he would be out in the woods at that time of night? But I am curious to find out if it was intentional or not.I highly doubt it was random...there's no drama in that, or rather, less drama. heh There's rhyme and reason here, Sugar. Rhyme and reason. As afterall, Teen Wolf wouldn't be on MTV unless it was deep and meaningful... :lol:

[Sugar]

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/06/teen-wolf-ep-jeff-davis-talks-mythology-and-his-one-rule-no-vampires.html

You have three different kinds of wolves on the show -- Alphas, Betas and Omegas. What is the difference between the three?


The Alpha is the most powerful werewolf, it's the closest to a monster. The Omega is the lone wolf, that's the one without a pack and they're each different. I've actually done a ton of research into werewolf mythology and it shows up quite a bit in the season. We play with the mythology a bit, but there are nods to a lot of the really cool lore as well, about the difference between being bitten as a werewolf and being born into being a werewolf.


What is the difference between being born into a werewolf as opposed to being bitten?


The older werewolf in the show [Derek] is born into being a werewolf. Scott is bitten and there's a huge difference in how to control, how to master it, how to shape-shift and things like that. The idea is that if you look up and research werewolves, the bitten one is the monster, the one who can't control himself, so it's more of a struggle, which I always liked. The werewolf who was born into is has far more control, he can shape-shift at will.

[Superboy2]

I thought Derek said his sister was the alpha of their family before she died. So we have Omega, Beta and Alpha. I wonder how many types there will be

[Sugar]

Woah...I don't know how I missed it!! I'm rewatching the last episode and the alpha dunked one of the guys in the woods in that can of fire!

[Superboy2]

Yeah that could be the Alpha in his/her way protecting/avenging Scott. All of these werewolf types seem like Frat names. Sig Si, Psi Tri and other ones will also be new types of werewolves lol.

[Xanderman]

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/06/teen-wolf-ep-jeff-davis-talks-mythology-and-his-one-rule-no-vampires.html

You have three different kinds of wolves on the show -- Alphas, Betas and Omegas. What is the difference between the three?


The Alpha is the most powerful werewolf, it's the closest to a monster. The Omega is the lone wolf, that's the one without a pack and they're each different. I've actually done a ton of research into werewolf mythology and it shows up quite a bit in the season. We play with the mythology a bit, but there are nods to a lot of the really cool lore as well, about the difference between being bitten as a werewolf and being born into being a werewolf.


What is the difference between being born into a werewolf as opposed to being bitten?


The older werewolf in the show [Derek] is born into being a werewolf. Scott is bitten and there's a huge difference in how to control, how to master it, how to shape-shift and things like that. The idea is that if you look up and research werewolves, the bitten one is the monster, the one who can't control himself, so it's more of a struggle, which I always liked. The werewolf who was born into is has far more control, he can shape-shift at will.Interesting....especially the Omegas. It's good that there's at least some level of logic and thought to the way they're approaching things. Vampire Diaries and True Blood threw logic out the window ages ago... :lol:

[Superboy2]

So an Alpha becomes a giant man-wolf that walk like a human and run like a wolf, a Beta has wolf like features but you can tell its still a human, and an Omega can shift into a regular sized wolf.

[Smartiepants]

Seriously guys, I think I have something of interest one here! the very last comment on page fourteen. Please read it!! i need some answers and some poeple's opinions!!!

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I was thinking. What if Allison had sibling who was killed by werewolves? that would make Allison's mother's anger even more understandable. The only thing is that he would have to be killed before Allison was born, but that would work. It would also be one reason why the Argents would know about the werewolves and give them a motive. However, Allison does tell Lydia that her ancestors hunted one, and Derek says that the hunters have been hunting werewolves for centuries, but we haven't found out if the Argents had been hunting them for centuries, since Scott doesn't know it's Allison's Dad until the end of episode one, after he has shifted for the first time.

[Sugar]

http://www.ksitetv.com/7232/trailer-for-the-final-episodes-of-teen-wolf-season-1/

Here's the teaser for the final episodes of season one...

And I just have to say...eeeewwww....to the Kate and Derek scene with the tongue....not a fan...

[Clois/is/hot]

http://www.ksitetv.com/7232/trailer-for-the-final-episodes-of-teen-wolf-season-1/

Here's the teaser for the final episodes of season one...

And I just have to say...eeeewwww....to the Kate and Derek scene with the tongue....not a fan...

OMG that looks AMAZING and GOREY:eek::eek:!!!! We are sure in for a big thrill ride!! There was so much going on in that trailer Kate licking Derek?!:eek:
Who is the bloody person in the hospital?


Thank you for posting that and the earlier spoiler post.

[Sugar]

I think that's Lydia in the hospital. It looks like she might get attacked. Looks like Jackson was trying to save her. I wonder who's going to save Stiles when he's faced with the alpha...I love how derek tries to warn him! He cares!! :D


Okay, it might be Stiles rather than Jackson trying to save Lydia in the field. It's hard to tell.

[Clois/is/hot]

Yeah, it looks pretty good. I wonder if Scott and Allison are going to make up by the end or if they are going to be fighting in Season 2? Sad...how Scott's all in love and she's all untrusting.

I think that's Lydia in the hospital. It looks like she might get attacked. Looks like Jackson was trying to save her.]

I think your right. Plus Stiles dad is also screaming at Jackson "What happen to her?!!" so he must be talking about Lydia.



I wonder who's going to save Stiles when he's faced with the alpha...I love how derek tries to warn him! He cares!! :D[/spoiler]

I love that about Derek too.

At first I thought Scott will save Stiles but now we see Kate is training Allison so now we might see her kicking some butt so thats also possiblity or another hunter.

I've been thinking for awhile since last episode. What if Allison's mom was also involved in that fire that killed Derek's family? In the trailer Stiles is saying sarcasticly to Allison's dad they never break their code and Allison's mom is screaming at her to keep her mouth shut. Maybe from her dad??
Allison's mom could be the mastermind behind the fire??

Do you know how many more episodes left?

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Silly me never mind I just saw they said 4 more episodes at the end of the trailer. My brain was still processing everything in the trailer:eek: to pay attention to what was said at the end:lol:.

[Sugar]

Do you know how many more episodes left?

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Silly me never mind I just saw they said 4 more episodes at the end of the trailer. My brain was still processing everything in the trailer:eek: to pay attention to what was said at the end:lol:.

:( Yup...only 4. And the new season doesn't start until NEXT summer...I wonder if they are going to leave us on a huge cliffhanger.

[Clois/is/hot]

:( Yup...only 4. And the new season doesn't start until NEXT summer...I wonder if they are going to leave us on a huge cliffhanger.

Next summer?Thats a long wait:(.

[Sugar]

I love that about Derek too.

At first I thought Scott will save Stiles but now we see Kate is training Allison so now we might see her kicking some butt so thats also possiblity or another hunter.

I've been thinking for awhile since last episode. What if Allison's mom was also involved in that fire that killed Derek's family? In the trailer Stiles is saying sarcasticly to Allison's dad they never break their code and Allison's mom is screaming at her to keep her mouth shut. Maybe from her dad??
Allison's mom could be the mastermind behind the fire??


Well, if Allison starts trying to kill Scott that might put a strain on the relationship...:lol: We haven't seen alot of the Mom until now...she definitely seems crazy. I have a feeling she's the alpha in that family. I wonder how Allison's mom got involved with her father. If Kate was involved in the fire, she definitely had to have help. I really hope we learn more about Derek's family and about the fire. We do know that his sister and his mother and his uncle were wolves. So many questions with this show and not alot of answers so far.

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Next summer?Thats a long wait:(.


Yeah...that's why I hope they give us some answers by the finale. :\

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Okay, so I was thinking again, and I don't think that the Alpha whom we have named the "Good" Alpha is Scott's dad. Before the Night School episode, there was a thing in an article and one of the actresses said we have already seen two Alphas. Seen. That would mean that Scott's dad is probably either the "Bad" Alpha or no alpha at all. And, i'm starting to think that one of the alpha's, most likely the bad one, is someone in the school, because at the beggining of the day in the latest episode, Scott is normal. Then he takes the test and things get a little weird, but he's not being a Jerk yet. As the day wore on he got worse and worse, hitting danny too hard, then not caring if everyone hated him, making out with Lydia, being a jerk to Stiles in his room, not to mention he climbed in the window, and then going off to try and kill Allison and Jackson. So I think the Alpha had to have been near by to have an effect on Scott, like when they were in the school. Also, i think the Alpha is afraid of Derek. After he shows up to stop Scott from killing Allison and jackson, Scott isn't acting like jerk or being angry or wanting to kill them. He doesn't understand any more. So I think Derek was an un expected surprise for the alpha, and he's scared of Derek. a question: Why wasn't Scott shifting back into a human after he and Derek stopped fighting? He was obviously calm enough to, but he didn't shift back until soemtime between Derek saying, "exactyly what he wants to happen." and them arriving at his house.


I don't think the alpha is scared of derek at all....did you see the way he tossed him aside?

Scott finally stops attacking Derek because somehow Derek was able to get through to Scott...to break whatever hold the alpha/moon had on him. I don't think Scott has control over his shifting ability like Derek does. So Scott was still being controlled by the moon, and his emotions were probably still going crazy.

[Clois/is/hot]

Well, if Allison starts trying to [spoiler] kill Scott that might put a strain on the relationship...:lol: [spoiler]:rotfl:
nothing says I love you more than a silver arrow through the heart:lol:



We haven't seen alot of the Mom until now...she definitely seems crazy. I have a feeling she's the alpha in that family. I wonder how Allison's mom got involved with her father. If Kate was involved in the fire, she definitely had to have help. I really hope we learn more about Derek's family and about the fire. We do know that his sister and his mother and his uncle were wolves. So many questions with this show and not alot of answers so far.

Yeah what I've seen of Kate she seems like a loose canon so IF she is involved in the fire I don't see her the one planning everything.



Yeah...that's why I hope they give us some answers by the finale. :\

One thing we'll find out for sure is who one of the Alpha's are at least. Hopefully we'll find out more than that but still keeping some secrets for next season.

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I don't think the alpha is scared of derek at all....did you see the way he tossed him aside?

Scott finally stops attacking Derek because somehow Derek was able to get through to Scott...to break whatever hold the alpha/moon had on him. I don't think Scott has control over his shifting ability like Derek does. So Scott was still being controlled by the moon, and his emotions were probably still going crazy.

I agree.

[Clois/is/hot]

I just had a thought...IF that is Lydia all bloody in the hospital...maybe she survives that attack and becomes a werewolf...her body was moving around all crazy in the hospital bed...maybe she was changing?
There must have been a reason why they've been hinting around often that she is highly intelligent and I think her teacher at the parent/teacher conference said Lydia was a social leader...that could have been forshadowing that she was going to become an Alpha....and not just any Alpha but an highly intelligent Alpha for next season. That could be one of the cliffhangers?

[Superboy2]

I have a few questions. It seems as though any of the three types of werewolves-Omega(regular wolf)Beta(humanoid and wolf-like features with added stregnth agility, superhearing etc)and Alpha-Shifts into a larger wolf, can walk on two feet and run on all fours and much more powerful can be born into it and turned into one. They haven't said anything about Beta's and Omega's turning people but obviosly the Alpha can(Scott). I wanna know more about who in Derek's family was a werwolf and who was human. wHEN DID He say his mother was one?