SKINWALKER and VISAGE Official Re-Watch Thread, September 23rd, 2011

[skully]

Who's up for our next 2 eps in the Rewatch Club?? :D

[jpfort1957]

I'll be there!!!! :D Thanks for putting up the new thread Steve!!!!!!

[skully]

No problemo, John. Sorry I missed your message yesterday.

And I've made it clear to my family that I am not to be disturbed like I was last week. :)

[HulkfanwithSmallville]

these are two good eps- hopefully I can watch at some point!

[WellingFan]

Me! These are 2 of my favourites from S2!

[Raistlin]

I'm in.

[SGuthrie27]

You know that I'LL be present and accounted for. :D And thanks again for putting up the new thread!

[skully]

I'm looking forward to Clark feeling like he's found his soul-mate in Kyla and seeing Tina-as-Whitney rip the door in the Talon Men's room off. :D

[MrsK]

I'll be there!

[Raistlin]

I'll be there!

Yay! Wonder if we'll be sharing a brain this week, too. :lol:

[Karafan1]

I should be here, but just lurking and commenting of course!:lol:

[jpfort1957]

I noticed that the polls don't list names of the voters anymore. :confused: :mad:

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I'll be there at the 11pm viewing tonight.

[jpfort1957]

Only 20 minutes!!!!!

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Wow!! I'm the only light on...............I might end up talking to myself.

[skully]

I'm here. 17 minutes. :D

[jpfort1957]

Hey Steve!!

[Raistlin]

Checked in.

[SGuthrie27]

Hi, Steve, John, and Raistlin! Just to forewarn you, I may duck out after the first episode. :( I don't want to, but I've come down with a sore throat today, and I don't think I should stay up too terribly late. *sigh* We'll see if I'm still feeling wide awake after "Skinwalker" ends. :lol:

[Raistlin]

Hi, Steve, John, and Raistlin! Just to forewarn you, I may duck out after the first episode. :( I don't want to, but I've come down with a sore throat today, and I don't think I should stay up too terribly late. *sigh* We'll see if I'm still feeling wide awake after "Skinwalker" ends. :lol:

Bummer. But glad you're here for as long as you can be.

[MrsK]

I'm here! Almost time!

[skully]

1 minute. Good luck, Jeff. :)

[jpfort1957]

Skinwalker is a very important eppisode for season 2!!!!!

[skully]

It's the lead singer of the Cars!! :)

[MrsK]

Never quite understood why this is considered a murder...

[Raistlin]

It's raining, but this dude isn't getting wet.

[jpfort1957]

A strange place to build a plaza in the middle of nowhere.

[skully]

I guess it was assumed that Professor Willowbrook torched the place, taking the foreman with him.

[Raistlin]

Smallville always has the best explosions. :lol:

[SGuthrie27]

Awww, look, it's the ill-fated construction foreman who wants to demolish the Kawatche Caves to put up a new Luthorcorp office park -- he's the redshirt of the episode -- well, more of a red hat, I guess. :lol:

Joseph Willowbrook had quite a presence, didn't he? I wonder how he managed to get onto that land in the first place, considering it was revealed eventually in this episode that he was NOT the one who had the werewolf transformative powers.

That is one BIG tank of gasoline! Dude... in Smallville, when you hear an ominous, foreboding noise, it's best NOT to move toward the strangeness, but to get inside your truck, the trailer, someplace safe... Yeah, a flare gun is definitely going to be super-helpful at a time like this.

That white wolf, while super-scary, is actually kind of beautiful. Uh-oh, dude. You're about to learn the hard way that gasoline and flares don't mix. That was a pretty cool explosion/fire! Looks like wolfie is enjoying the fireworks. :p :lol:

SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEE from perpetually boring characters who turn into werewoooooooolves! Not that Kyla wasn't cute and all... I just thought she acted like a cardboard cutout in a lot of her scenes. :o

And thanks, Raistlin -- good to chat about another episode with you (and everyone)!

[MrsK]

I guess it was assumed that Professor Willowbrook torched the place, taking the foreman with him.Quite an assumption based on very little actual evidence.

[skully]

I wonder if Tom Welling ever did learn to ride a motorcycle?

[MrsK]

Nice to see Clark just getting to be a kid - at least for a little while! :)

[jpfort1957]

Never quite understood why this is considered a murder... Shouldn't have been much of a body left for the investigators.

[skully]

This actress always struck me as very wooden.

[Raistlin]

Let's rip open the dude's shirt first because he's in shock!

[jpfort1957]

Nice tumble and landing for Clark!!

[Raistlin]

This actress always struck me as very wooden.

Yeah, she didn't blow my socks off either.

[SGuthrie27]

So... who owns these dirt bikes, anyway? I've never seen Clark on one in any other episode. I suppose they must belong to Pete's family? It's cool to see the two friends hanging out and doing something fun, in any case. Where did they say they were going? Millar's Bend -- as in show co-creator Miles Millar? :rotfl:

WHOA, that was a crazy-bad wreck and a LOOOOOOONG fall. Good thing the guy's an invulnerable Kryptonian. And how did his landing on the cave floor automatically cause that random cave-in?

Why does Clark automatically assume that any dark-haired figure approaching has to be Lana? :p And why does he always have the lamest excuses? I mean seriously... he falls a hundred feet and uses the line, "Just lucky, I guess"?!

It's cool to hear the legend of Naman again for the first time. It would be an important recurring theme over the course of the rest of the series. That one cave painting of Clark with the Elvis hair and big S on his chest looks pretty goofy, though. :lol: The colors of the paints are so rich that it looks almost like they were done in sidewalk chalk just the day before. :p

[skully]

Good ol' Clark, always inviting people to stay and come to dinner!! :D

[SGuthrie27]

Jonathan's over-protectiveness is another recurring theme, and is unsurprising in this situation.

This next scene always confuses me a little bit. Who was the person that Joseph Willowbrook is talking about who was on Earth before? Could it be someone in Jor-El's and Clark's lineage?

Clark looks awfully proud to announce to the world that his mom works for Luthorcorp in front of a pair of people who obviously don't like the Luthors all that much. :p

[skully]

Way to make Martha feel uncomfortable in front of guests, Clark.

[MrsK]

Why, at this point, does Joseph ask if Clark isn't from around there?

[Raistlin]

Oh, yeah. This is back when Martha was Lionel's right hand woman.

[MrsK]

This next scene always confuses me a little bit. Who was the person that Joseph Willowbrook is talking about who was on Earth before? Could it be someone in Jor-El's and Clark's lineage?

Clark looks awfully proud to announce to the world that his mom works for Luthorcorp in front of a pair of people who obviously don't like the Luthors all that much. :p
Two very good points. :)

[Raistlin]

Oh, snap. Lana meets Kyla.

[SGuthrie27]

I have to admit that, even though I'm not the biggest fan of Kyla's character, it is rather refreshing to see Clark showing interest in someone other than...

Lana Lang! Dressed in all pink... and honestly looking pretty cute in this scene. I like that there isn't a whole lot of angst in this scene between them, especially after what occurred in "Dichotic." It was nice of her to be willing to go to her newly discovered father for help with this crisis.

[MrsK]

I have to admit that, even though I'm not the biggest fan of Kyla's character, it is rather refreshing to see Clark showing interest in someone other than...

Lana Lang! Dressed in all pink... and honestly looking pretty cute in this scene. I like that there isn't a whole lot of angst in this scene between them, especially after what occurred in "Dichotic." It was nice of her to be willing to go to her newly discovered father for help with this crisis.Agreed. :)

[skully]

Ol' Glover was a fit looking dude. :)

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Martha looks hot in this scene with Lionel.

[SGuthrie27]

Another Season 2 Mionel scene... Why is Lionel always so surprised at Martha's good-natured, honest, caring nature? And why did Martha look so guilty in her reaction when Lex showed up on the scene?

BTW, thanks, Lionel, for that recap of Lex's arc in the first ten episodes of Season 2. What was Lionel trying to pull in asking Lex to join up as a partner? Did he just want him back under his thumb, or was there something more to it than that?

[jpfort1957]

Ol' Glover was a fit looking dude. :)

.

I wonder if he can see yet???

[Raistlin]

Are cowboy boots the thing you really want to wear when splunking?

[MrsK]

BTW, thanks, Lionel, for that recap of Lex's arc in the first ten episodes of Season 2. What was Lionel trying to pull in asking Lex to join up as a partner? Did he just want him back under his thumb, or was there something more to it than that?That was a rather clumsy bit of dialog... unusual for Lionel.

[skully]

It's such a shame Lois didn't end up with the bracelet.

[Karafan1]

I wonder if he can see yet???

I'm sure he can:lol:

[Raistlin]

Another Season 2 Mionel scene... Why is Lionel always so surprised at Martha's good-natured, honest, caring nature? And why did Martha look so guilty in her reaction when Lex showed up on the scene?

Because she had the hots for MB.

[MrsK]

I wonder if he can see yet???I think not. When the wolf attacks he is alone, and it sure seems like he can't see it.

[skully]

Excellent boulder smashing CGI.

[Raistlin]

Excellent boulder smashing CGI.

Agreed.

[skully]

Hot Native Indian woman hits on 15 year old boy. Hmmm.

[MrsK]

It's such a shame Lois didn't end up with the bracelet.I was just about to post the same thing! There was no good reason not to bring that back.

[SGuthrie27]

Sagett? So she pronounces it that way the first time around, and it later changes to Sageeth... Weird. What's even weirder is the choice to first portray Sageeth as Lex, and then to try to shoehorn Davis into that same role.

I always wished they'd reference that bracelet later in the series toward the end. Did they even ever show that particular cave painting of the woman he was destined to be with again? And what was with that weird moon-looking thing on her head? :lol:

Why did Kyla smile at Clark in one shot after the rock fell on them, and in the next one, she looked all confused and slightly freaked out. WHOA -- Clark is making out with the non-Lana!

Meanwhile, Lana herself is having another meeting with dear old dad... who she finally finds out is actually her real dad! I think it was a real mistake to write him out of the series completely, never to be heard from again toward the end of this season. Why did they choose to do that, anyway?

[jpfort1957]

It's such a shame Lois didn't end up with the bracelet.

I kept waiting for that to happen.

[skully]

Another storyline that could've gone far but petered out - Henry Small and Lana.

[MrsK]

Meanwhile, Lana herself is having another meeting with dear old dad... who she finally finds out is actually her real dad! I think it was a real mistake to write him out of the series completely, never to be heard from again toward the end of this season. Why did they choose to do that, anyway They could have at least mentioned him, even if they couldn't work things out with the actor!

[Raistlin]

Meanwhile, Lana herself is having another meeting with dear old dad... who she finally finds out is actually her real dad! I think it was a real mistake to write him out of the series completely, never to be heard from again toward the end of this season. Why did they choose to do that, anyway?

I always thought that was weird, too. And people wonder why the poor girl has abandonment issues. :lol: I wondered if Kyla's bracelet ever reappeared, but I guess not. :(

[skully]

"It's a completely different feeling when someone likes you back." Heh. :D

[Raistlin]

I thought Clark's response to Lex's question about Lana was just weird. Why would he think Lana didn't like him back?

[SGuthrie27]

That was a little harsh bit of dialogue from Joseph Willowbrook in what he said to Martha, though I'll have to admit that she can occasionally be a bit naive.

Way to go, Henry Small, coming in with the appropriate paperwork at just the right time!

How could there have been any blood left behind from the victim of that huge explosion? And didn't they say in a later scene that they found wolf teethmarks in the foreman's bones? Does that mean that Kyla went back after the fact and gnawed on his ashy skeleton?

Clark's a little confrontational in this conversation with Lex in this scene, especially for a guy who immediately demands his help in forking over bail money for a guy that he's basically just met.

"It's a completely different feeling when the person likes you back." That's another dumb statement. Lana DID like you, Clark. You just couldn't open up and tell her the truth. And besides, Chloe liked Clark, and still does like him, and yet he hardly glanced in her direction other than in late Season 1's Chlarky Trilogy of Awesomeness.

I like the seemingly random mention of Whitney that would lead to the next episode's plotline.

"Maybe we should just try to stop falling for guys who are trying to save the world." Which is why you go off and marry the Green Arrow eight seasons later. :rotfl:

[skully]

I thought Clark's response to Lex's question about Lana was just weird. Why would he think Lana didn't like him back?
Agreed, he's pretty thick if he couldn't see Lana's feelings for him.

[Raistlin]

Martha just got a Willowbrook smack down.

[MrsK]

The Willowbrooks' reactions to Martha are a bit over the top...

[jpfort1957]

There must have been loads of rumors around Smallville, for Lana to ever think this other guy might be he real dad. Sad that a kid had to find out something like that.

[SGuthrie27]

What are the caves at Lascalle, anyway? And uh-oh... Lex saw the octagon-hole! Dun, dun, DUNNNNNN!!!!

Looks like Clark managed to succeed in winning Lex over. It was nice of Martha to try to mend faces with Joseph, considering how stubbornly set he was in his opinions about what was going on with Martha and the Luthors. "It's clear where your loyalties lie." Be nice to Mama Kent!

"You know, Clark, a simple, 'Hello, Chloe' goes a long way." Whoa, what's with the 'tude? Still pining, from the look of it... And I wouldn't call it obsessed when he just started showing interest in the caves for the first time a couple of days before.

Aw, c'mon, Wolfie Kyla... threatening Mama Kent? Now that's just cold. Leave Martha alone to her pies, sweetness, and awesome mother/wife/business-savvy lady-ness!!!!

[Raistlin]

So, when did Martha get a car? Or did Lionel provide one for her as his special employee? :p

[MrsK]

Wolf teeth marks on the bones, but still Joseph is the prime suspect. Just doesn't make sense.

[skully]

Jonathan in glasses!!

[MrsK]

So, when did Martha get a car? Or did Lionel provide one for her as his special employee? :pShe has had one on the occasional episode- just not consistently.

[SGuthrie27]

BTW, did anyone else almost jump out of their skin the first time they watched the scene with Wolf-Kyla jumping on the truck? Creeeeeeeeeeeepy!

"You two certainly seem to be pretty serious." A serious relationship where they only had one scene with other people in it after they kissed and prior to their mini-blowout. Rrrrriiiiiiight.

[Raistlin]

Clark never allows himself to be happy for more than 5 minutes.

[skully]

Lionel wasn't born yesterday, Lex. :)

[SGuthrie27]

"There are so many ways I could answer that question, Dad." I love Lex's reactions to his father -- he never holds back.

"Tree-huggers." :rotfl: "Perhaps we can give it a 'positive spin.'" This really is a great conversation. Lionel is very shrewd in realizing that there has to be something beyond altruism in Lex's desire to buy out the land from underneath the elder Luthor, who is now desperate to figure out just what it might be.

[Raistlin]

"You two certainly seem to be pretty serious." A serious relationship where they only had one scene with other people in it after they kissed and prior to their mini-blowout. Rrrrriiiiiiight.

:lol::lol::lol:

[skully]

Speaking of overreactions - Kyla's dummy spit in the barn was harsh, and highly suspicious, and I think the moment I suspected she was the Skinwalker when I first saw the epi..

[MrsK]

BTW, did anyone else almost jump out of their skin the first time they watched the scene with Wolf-Kyla jumping on the truck? Creeeeeeeeeeeepy!.I did!


"You two certainly seem to be pretty serious." A serious relationship where they only had one scene with other people in it after they kissed and prior to their mini-blowout. Rrrrriiiiiiight. It's more serous than any relationship Clark has ever had, though!

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Speaking of overreactions - Kyla's dummy spit in the barn was harsh, and highly suspicious.Indeed!:)

[Raistlin]

Why didn't she just tell Clark the truth about herself?

[SGuthrie27]

Kyla looks rather fetching in that sweater, as they rotate around her like three times in rapid succession. And then he goes off on a tangent of "I trust you, but now let me go ahead and throw your uncle back under the bus as a potential suspect and get all accusatory." Nice tact, buddy. This actress's reaction was WAAAAAY blown out of proportion and over the top. It almost make me want to laugh. :lol:

This is one of those scenes that makes me think that Lionel doesn't have his sight back yet -- or if he IS regaining it, it's not completely returned yet. Otherwise, he'd have no reason to be pouring his drink with his finger on the edge of the glass, or sitting down so carefully when there's no one else in the room, unless he's worried about surveillance cameras.

[MrsK]

Why didn't she just tell Clark the truth about herself?Especially since she thought he was Naman - at any rate she knew he had a BIG secret, too... He would have understood.

[skully]

That's one well-trained wolf-dog. And Glover doesn't bat an eyelid.

[MrsK]

This is one of those scenes that makes me think that Lionel doesn't have his sight back yet -- or if he IS regaining it, it's not completely returned yet. Otherwise, he'd have no reason to be pouring his drink with his finger on the edge of the glass, or sitting down so carefully when there's no one else in the room, unless he's worried about surveillance cameras.I agree. I hadn't thought about the security cameras, but I don't think that he'd be too worried about that when his life was in danger. I don't think he can see yet.

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That's one well-trained wolf-dog. And Glover doesn't bat an eyelid.A beautiful one, too!

[SGuthrie27]

Lionel hears random scratching at the door, and automatically assumes it's Lex? And why exactly is there a CHORUS of wolf howls? Can Kyla sound like multiple animals at once or something? :rolleyes: And how did she get into the mansion in the first place?

Oh no... poor Clark, about to endure his second major tragedy in the span of three episodes -- first Ryan and now Kyla... She still acted pretty stiff in this scene, but I do have to give Tom Welling props for his reaction to Kyla's confession and her death, which makes it more touching than it probably would be otherwise.

[jpfort1957]

It sounded more like a pack of wolves were in the mansion.

[skully]

Poor ol' Clark had so many people die near or in his arms. No wonder he became a bit dark in later seasons.

[MrsK]

Way to go Martha!

[skully]

And there's the bracelet "for the true one in your life". The TPB really missed a trick with the bracelet - Clark should've given it to Lois at their wedding in the Finale.

[Raistlin]

Lionel hears random scratching at the door, and automatically assumes it's Lex? And why exactly is there a CHORUS of wolf howls? Can Kyla sound like multiple animals at once or something? :rolleyes: And how did she get into the mansion in the first place?

Suspension of disbelief stuff.


Oh no... poor Clark, about to endure his second major tragedy in the span of three episodes -- first Ryan and now Kyla... She still acted pretty stiff in this scene, but I do have to give Tom Welling props for his reaction to Kyla's confession and her death, which makes it more touching than it probably would be otherwise.

Yes, TW sold that scene.

[MrsK]

Very nice scene between Clark and Joseph! Again, I wish they had brought the bracelet back in S10!

[SGuthrie27]

That's really a very beautiful bit of filming there as they pan away from Clark rocking Kyla in his arms, the fog-lit forest surrounding them. It's the one image that was really etched in my mind after watching this episode initially.

I like how Clark is standing in front of the bulldozer, and Martha ended up taking sides with him, showing her employer where her loyalties truly DO lie! Awww... I love Martha/Clark hugs. :)

And here we have Joseph, back in action, and three times the acting talent of his "granddaughter." I'm glad they chose to bring him back in the following season's "Talisman."

DARN IT -- there's the bracelet again! It would've been SO easy for them to have brought it up and used it at some point in Season 10.

"I hope I didn't use such an obvious cliche." :lol: NICE WORK, Lex -- that was a cunning and pretty amazing move. Well done!

[Raistlin]

And there's the bracelet "for the true one in your life". The TPB really missed a trick with the bracelet - Clark should've given it to Lois at their wedding in the Finale.

Bizarro found it and gave it to Lana. :lol:

[jpfort1957]

It seemed like they made a mistake killing off Kyla after just one eppisode!!!!!

[skully]

Pretty good epi, that really set up many storylines to come, including S4's witches and stones arc.

[SGuthrie27]

That is a very nice scene, except of course for the fact that half these cave paintings move around, and the octagonal hole is on a narrow section of wall between two passages, when later it's on the outer wall of the cave.

This is another pretty sweet scene between Clark and Lana, with good acting from both of them. Wow... am I actually liking a Season 2 Clana scene?! What has come over me??? :rotfl:

[skully]

KK was always a good crier.

[Raistlin]

That's really a very beautiful bit of filming there as they pan away from Clark rocking Kyla in his arms, the fog-lit forest surrounding them. It's the one image that was really etched in my mind after watching this episode initially.

That's what I thought. I'm a sucker for good cinematography.


"I hope I didn't use such an obvious cliche." :lol: NICE WORK, Lex -- that was a cunning and pretty amazing move. Well done!

That's our Lex.

Can Clark flip-flop any faster with his women?

[MrsK]

Nice scene between Clark and Lana. They have both lost someone important to them.

[SGuthrie27]

Bizarro found it and gave it to Lana. :lol:

:rotfl: That is HILARIOUS!!!!!! Maybe you're right. :p

[skully]

OK, say the word on Visage. :)

[jpfort1957]

Lex knows where that octogon key goes now.

[MrsK]

That's our Lex.

Can Clark flip-flop any faster with his women?
Really, he only knew Kyla for a few days. Whitney was much more important to Lana, and it was nice that Clark was able to be there for her.

[skully]

On to Visage.

[MrsK]

On to Visage! I love this opening scene. Wet T-shirt Clark!:D

[Karafan1]

Wow... am I actually liking a Season 2 Clana scene?! What has come over me??? :rotfl:

Are you feeling ok?:lol:

[Raistlin]

Oh, my. Lana is checking out the mighty ripped young Mr. Kent.

[skully]

Heh - I liked the way Lana perved at Clark's wet T-shirt. :D

[MrsK]

Heh - I liked the way Lana perved at Clark's wet T-shirt. :DWhat girl wouldn't?!

[Raistlin]

I thought this combat scene was well done.

[MrsK]

LOVE this guy expressing his opinion of Whitney going on and on about Lana!:lol:

[SGuthrie27]

You'd think that Lana would have asked for Jonathan's help rather than Clark's, seeing as he doesn't have much in the way of official plumbing training. :lol: Her reaction to him and his "white tee-shirt" was pretty obvious. By the way, do we ever see this bathroom again after this episode? :p You could cut the romantic tension in this scene with a knife! And Clark certainly DID switch love interests quickly, didn't he?

I had forgotten how they'd worked the kryptonite necklace back to Smallville. At least this episode is good for something other than weirding me out -- I was never a big fan of Tina Greer's character.

This was a pretty cool bit of cinematography, I have to admit -- feels like a completely different show in a lot of ways, doesn't it? I like the way that, even though they killed off Whitney's character, they still gave him a heroic sendoff, giving his all to try to save his fellow Marine. Rest in peace, Whitney Fordman... rest in peace. :(

[MrsK]

Whitney the hero! Well done!

[skully]

For a jock Quarterback, Whitney really was a whiney loser. :D

[SGuthrie27]

Are you feeling ok?:lol:

Well, I did say earlier that I felt like I was coming down with something. :p I guess this is even more proof of that. :lol:

[skully]

Whitney the hero! Well done!
Yep, showed real leadership.

[jpfort1957]

What girl wouldn't?!

Clark was just too slow to figure that out!!!!!

[skully]

Well, I did say earlier that I felt like I was coming down with something. :p I guess this is even more proof of that. :lol:
Hang in there, Jeff. Nothing like a dose of Smallville to pick you up. :)

[SGuthrie27]

For a jock Quarterback, Whitney really was a whiney loser. :D

:rotf: He really was during the bulk of Season 1. But I came to admire him toward the end of the season -- they matured his character right when they wrote him out of the show completely.

[Raistlin]

For a jock Quarterback, Whitney really was a whiney loser. :D

Seriously. :lol:

[skully]

I thought Nellie Blye was Chloe's hero. :)

[MrsK]

Poor Clark! Whitney(Tina) does look good in that uniform!

[Karafan1]

Well, I did say earlier that I felt like I was coming down with something. :p I guess this is even more proof of that. :lol:

Looks like it! I hope you feel better soon!

[skully]

This is well shot scene showing Whitney's return.

[Raistlin]

This shot has such an "Officer and A Gentleman" feel.

[SGuthrie27]

Hang in there, Jeff. Nothing like a dose of Smallville to pick you up. :)

True that, Skully! Thanks!

Clark really was surprisingly proactive in what he said to Lana in this episode.

Whoa... not the person she expected to see coming down the hall, obviously, the crowds on either side parting more dramatically than should be humanly possible. :lol: :p That was a little overly dramatic a "reunion" moment, dontcha think? :rolleyes: And Clark is left alone, only to abandon Lana's pink and purple spiral notebooks unattended in the hallway.

[MrsK]

I thought Nellie Blye was Chloe's hero. :)I guess not in the 2nd grade! She must've replaced Betsy Ross. :)

[skully]

And a great reveal of the harumphing Clark. :)

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Well said, Jono.

[Raistlin]

MrsK....he's flip flopping AGAIN! :D

[MrsK]

"My son and the prettiest girl in school" Is that all anyone ever sees in Lana?!

[jpfort1957]

Clark could feel Lana's necklace.............Tina Greer's bones are almost covered in grren............why can't he sense her????

[skully]

Oh dear, milk and cookies. How wholesome. :)

[jpfort1957]

"my son and the prettiest girl in school" is that all anyone ever sees in lana?! not me!!!!!!

[skully]

Nice cover story, Tina. No memory of stuff. :)

[jpfort1957]

Oh dear, milk and cookies. How wholesome. :) And two girls almost kissed!!

[skully]

Smooth Lex.

[MrsK]

MrsK....he's flip flopping AGAIN! :D
:D
I think Lana is doing her share of flip-flopping here, too! First she's checking Clark out, then she leaves him standing there without a word when the guy she broke up with shows back up...

[Raistlin]

"My son and the prettiest girl in school" Is that all anyone ever sees in Lana?!

That's why the real Lana is such a shock for them.

Helen! Exactly when did she turn on Lex? I thought she really loved him.

[skully]

Lex had Helen pegged very early but let his hormones get in the way.

[SGuthrie27]

I thought Nellie Blye was Chloe's hero. :)

That's true -- guess they decided to change it two seasons later. Or she was only Chloe's CHILDHOOD hero. BTW, was what Chloe said about Alexander Graham Bell true? I never heard that before...


Looks like it! I hope you feel better soon!

Thank you, Jim! :)

This is different re-watching this for probably only the first or second time since my original chance watching it. Knowing that Whitney is actually Tina in this scene makes it that much more disturbing, but I like the way he acts just subtly different.

"It took me five days to figure it out... you're delusional." Wait -- so she just started her relationship with Lex less than a week ago in "Dichotic?" Clark really DID move on from Kyla with SUPER speed! :eek: BTW, I like the way that Helen could always give as well as she got from Lex during their arguments.

[Raistlin]

:D
I think Lana is doing her share of flip-flopping here, too! First she's checking Clark out, then she leaves him standing there without a word when the guy she broke up with shows back up...

Yeah, well, didn't you just say she really cared for Whitney and she did think he was dead....;)

[skully]

I love this Chloe-cut. :)

[SGuthrie27]

*yawn* I really think I do need to head for bed... Sorry to cut things short, guys and gals. Enjoy the rest of tonight's re-watch, and I'll view the rest of it myself sometime tomorrow and share my thoughts about it then. Good night! :)

[MrsK]

"It took me five days to figure it out... you're delusional." Wait -- so she just started her relationship with Lex less than a week ago in "Dichotic?" Clark really DID move on from Kyla with SUPER speed! :eek: BTW, I like the way that Helen could always give as well as she got from Lex during their arguments.I think she said 5 dates...

[skully]

And yet the girls slip in a Clark stab :rolleyes:

[Raistlin]

Tina was really disturbing.

[MrsK]

Yeah, well, didn't you just say she really cared for Whitney and she did think he was dead....;)True... I did say that. Maybe for once Lana is being consistent.

[skully]

*yawn* I really think I do need to head for bed... Sorry to cut things short, guys and gals. Enjoy the rest of tonight's re-watch, and I'll view the rest of it myself sometime tomorrow and share my thoughts about it then. Good night! :)
See ya next week, Jeff.

[MrsK]

*yawn* I really think I do need to head for bed... Sorry to cut things short, guys and gals. Enjoy the rest of tonight's re-watch, and I'll view the rest of it myself sometime tomorrow and share my thoughts about it then. Good night! :)Feel better, Jeff!

[Raistlin]

*yawn* I really think I do need to head for bed... Sorry to cut things short, guys and gals. Enjoy the rest of tonight's re-watch, and I'll view the rest of it myself sometime tomorrow and share my thoughts about it then. Good night! :)

Good night. Feel better.

[skully]

Tina really had a short fuse. :eek:

[MrsK]

And Lana completely ignoring everything she knows about Clark and accusing him of lying about Whitney! Remind me why Clark likes her so much...

[skully]

Ugh, as usual Lana takes other people's side of the story instead of Clark's.

[Raistlin]

Okay, here's one of my rare want to slap Lana moments. She just believes Whitney hook, line and sinker and totally flakes on Clark? There is no consistent character treatment here!

[skully]

The hardest job in the military - telling a family a loved one is dead.

[Karafan1]

I gotta go too, I gotta get up early for a legit 3 hour drive! If only it was the Smallville to Metropolis version of 3 hours!!:lol: Nite everybody!:)

[MrsK]

There is no way this guy could have been Van McNulty's father...

[Raistlin]

And Lana completely ignoring everything she knows about Clark and accusing him of lying about Whitney! Remind me why Clark likes her so much...

Because she still made googly eyes at him after the Kyla affair.

[jpfort1957]

Tina is a mean little witch!!!!

[Raistlin]

I gotta go too, I gotta get up early for a legit 3 hour drive! If only it was the Smallville to Metropolis version of 3 hours!!:lol: Nite everybody!:)

Nighty night!

[skully]

I gotta go too, I gotta get up early for a legit 3 hour drive! If only it was the Smallville to Metropolis version of 3 hours!!:lol: Nite everybody!:)
See ya, Jim.

[Raistlin]

Tina is a mean little witch!!!!

I was thinking blood thirsty and brutal.

[skully]

Because she still made googly eyes at him after the Kyla affair.
:rotfl:

[MrsK]

Night, Jim!

[jpfort1957]

I was thinking blood thirsty and brutal. And a really bad case of P.E. !!!!!!

[MrsK]

Love the look on Lex's face when Clark says "If I knew someone was investigating me, I'd be a little ticked off, too." Busted!:)

[skully]

The Lex Healthcare system strikes again. He's gonna help loony Whitney. :)

[Raistlin]

Love the look on Lex's face when Clark says "If I knew someone was investigating me, I'd be a little ticked off, too." Busted!:)

True story.

[MrsK]

The Lex Healthcare system strikes again. He's gonna help loony Whitney. :):D

[skully]

Not quite sure why Clark thought he needed to x-ray Whitney.

[Raistlin]

The Lex Healthcare system strikes again. He's gonna help loony Whitney. :)

:lol: Yeah, he was always "johnny on the spot" with the offers of medical assistance.

[skully]

"Lex then Lana then locked up" :)

[jpfort1957]

Finally..............Clark knows it's Tina!!!

[MrsK]

Not quite sure why Clark thought he needed to x-ray Whitney.I thougth that was a little odd, too. BUT, good for Clark for figuring it out on his own AGAIN!! Love proactive Clark in the early seasons. :)

[skully]

I like evil Lana (in this case as Tina).

[jpfort1957]

Not quite sure why Clark thought he needed to x-ray Whitney. Whitney couldn't knock Clark that far.

[MrsK]

Lana NEVER wears anything that low-cut in hte early seasons - total give-away that it isn't her!

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I like evil Lana (in this case as Tina).
It must have been fun for Kristin to play. :)

[jpfort1957]

Poor Pete.

[Raistlin]

Nice subtle facial expressions on Kristen's part when she was Tina.

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I repeat...disturbing.

[skully]

It must have been fun for Kristin to play. :)
I think it's one of the reasons I liked S4 so much. KK's portrayal of Isobel was great and must've been a hoot for her. :)

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Yeah, no worries, Whitney. You're crazy but I'll give you my most treasured piece of jewelry. :)

[jpfort1957]

Why does Lana have problems lying to Whitney................so has no problems any other time!!!!

[skully]

Lizzy Caplin really is a good actress.

[MrsK]

Funny how at this point the only kryptonite people can find is Lana's necklace. Before long, it'll be EVERYWHERE!

[Raistlin]

She could be anyone, but you aren't being cautious, Clark!

[skully]

Sure, Helen. Lex, don't believe her. :eek:

[Raistlin]

Lex is so cool, strutting into Talon. I really liked him in the early seasons.

[skully]

Eek, Clark's blood would be boiling by now with such close and prolonged contact with green-K.

[Raistlin]

That makes 2 of you, Helen.

[MrsK]

I'd forgotten this side of Helen. Maybe they didn't lightswitch her character in the end as much as I thought...

[skully]

I liked the smouldering effects after the ship saved Clark, like it had really taken one for the team.

And I love sexy, flirty Chloe in this scene.

[MrsK]

Creepy Tina smelling Lana's lingerie!

[jpfort1957]

The spaceship saves Clark again!!!!

[Raistlin]

Tina's just creepy.

[skully]

Not as good as the Red Talon kiss.

[MrsK]

Tina's just creepy. So true! And Allison MAck does a great job of portraying that creepiness!

[skully]

Excellent Clark v Clark fight. :)

[Raistlin]

Bring it on. LOL

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Not as good as the Red Talon kiss.

Creepy Clark!Tina kiss.

[MrsK]

It's nice to see Clark holding his own in this fight. So often he doesn't when the opponent is as strong as he is.

[skully]

What a great dad Jono was. :)

[MrsK]

Another nice Kent family scene. :)

[skully]

It's nice to see Clark holding his own in this fight. So often he doesn't when the opponent is as strong as he is.
Did someone say Doomsday? :)

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Loved Lex's "wall around his heart" speech. :)

[MrsK]

I like this Lex/Helen scene as well. Lex doesn't open up like this often.

[skully]

Great song.

[Raistlin]

Another nice Kent family scene. :)

Yes, it was.

Lex is trying to fight against his nature. Poor Lex. :(

[MrsK]

Great song.It is. This is a well-done scene, too.

[jpfort1957]

Excellent Clark v Clark fight. :) It was better than the Doomsday and Darkseid fights rolled together!!!

[skully]

I really thought this heart-felt speech by Lana in the Caves was gonna be a turning point in the secret-and-lies debacle, but alas no. :(

[Raistlin]

I love this scene between Clark and Lana. So touching.

[MrsK]

I really thought this heart-felt speech by Lana in the Caves was gonna be a turning point in the secret-and-lies debacle, but alas no. :(Sure would have been nice if it was!

[skully]

Very enjoyable double epi. Great fun re-watching them. :)

See you all next week for a pretty damn good double of Insurgence and Suspect.

[Raistlin]

Wow. Another fun re-watch. Thanks, guys!

[jpfort1957]

Knowing what she will become................Lana's little speach to Clark at the end, makes me want to blow chips!!!!

[MrsK]

It's been fun - two pretty decent episodes. Now I am off to watch the season premiere of Supernatural, which I put off for this rewatch! See everyone next week for Insurgence and Suspect!

[jpfort1957]

See everybody next week!!!

[skully]

Enjoy, MrsK. SPN was pretty good. :)

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See everybody next week!!!
Ditto. :D

[Raistlin]

I missed the SPN premiere. Will have to catch it on the CW site. See you guys next week.

[jpfort1957]

And there's the bracelet "for the true one in your life". The TPB really missed a trick with the bracelet - Clark should've given it to Lois at their wedding in the Finale.


Bizarro found it and gave it to Lana. :lol:

I wonder if they ever had any intention on trying to tie in Bizarro as being Sageeth??? :confused: I'm glad that you remembered that Raistlin!!!!

[Lieslchen]

sorry I've been away for so long, but here are the banners!

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