RYAN and DICHOTIC Official Re-Watch Thread, September 16th, 2011

[skully]

So who's up?

And do we still need a poll?

I'll be here same time on Friday night, as usual. :)

[jpfort1957]

See everybody Friday night!!!!!

[SGuthrie27]

I'll be present and accounted for! And yes, I'd prefer that we keep a poll up and running. I like to know how many people to expect, and who's watching when. :) (Even though, in retrospect, I guess it is generally the same viewers almost every time.) :lol:

[skully]

Sweet!!! :D

Jeff, I have adopted a "If the Rewatch thread is not up by Thursday morning (Aus time) then Jeff's very busy, so I'll step in for him" approach. If that is a wrong assumption please let me know. :)

And cool, we'll stick with our poll each week.

[SGuthrie27]

Sweet!!! :D

Jeff, I have adopted a "If the Rewatch thread is not up by Thursday morning (Aus time) then Jeff's very busy, so I'll step in for him" approach. If that is a wrong assumption please let me know. :)

And cool, we'll stick with our poll each week.

:rotfl: That is a very correct assumption. :lol: Now that the school year's back in full swing, as a teacher, I have much less time to be online, particularly for any reasons that are not work-related, so I really appreciate your assistance in getting these threads up and running. You ROCK, Skully!!!! :D :cool:

[skully]

Heh, more than happy to help on this brilliant initiative, Jeff. :)

You'll have to work some Smallville metaphors into your lessons to have an excuse to show clips from the Great Show in class. :D

[Raistlin]

This time I'm in. Got sick last Friday and was in bed. :-(

[KneelBeforeSmallville]

Im in guys!

[skully]

Excellent Raistlin and k4j. :D

[skully]

Less than 3 hours. :)

[MrsK]

I'll be there!

[jpfort1957]

28 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!

[skully]

:D

[Raistlin]

Woo hoo! I'm so excited to watch a couple of episodes with fans. :D

[MrsK]

12 minutes to go!

[skully]

10 mins. :)

[Raistlin]

3 minutes

[SGuthrie27]

1 minute!!!!! (I'm here, by the way). :lol:

[jsm]

Here we go!

[skully]

I never liked Dr. Garner. He apparently was gonna be Lex until Rosenbaum knocked 'em out.

[Karafan1]

I'm here to, but just lurking..I don't have the dvd's..

[SGuthrie27]

Dr. Garner is such a dirtbag. He is seriously one of my least favorite characters on Smallville ever, or most hated... Whatever. Either way, he's a total jerk. Why is he holding him against his will like that? It has to be totally illegal. What is he hoping to figure out from this, anyway? He obviously knows the kid has ESP now, and can tell that making him use his powers isn't exactly good for his health.

I do have to admit that I love the way Ryan plays Dr. Garner in this scene, preying on the slightest doubt he has about that orderly so that he can make good his escape attempt.

[skully]

Smart kid. :)

[Raistlin]

I love this kid. He is such a good little actor.

[jpfort1957]

I never liked Dr. Garner. He apparently was gonna be Lex until Rosenbaum knocked 'em out. I'm glad Michael won the role!!

[MrsK]

Really?! I never knew that! They definitely made the right choice. :)

[Karafan1]

Dr. Garner was on V!!!

[MrsK]

Dr. Garner is such a dirtbag. He is seriously one of my least favorite characters on Smallville ever, or most hated... Whatever. Either way, he's a total jerk. Why is he holding him against his will like that? It has to be totally illegal. What is he hoping to figure out from this, anyway? He obviously knows the kid has ESP now, and can tell that making him use his powers isn't exactly good for his health.

I do have to admit that I love the way Ryan plays Dr. Garner in this scene, preying on the slightest doubt he has about that orderly so that he can make good his escape attempt.Agree 100%

[SGuthrie27]

I think Ryan could've probably disguised his escape route a bit better, don't you? Always pull the air vent in after you, and try not to throw it out so loudly when you try to get out. I'm just glad that he was able to reach the Kent farm with enough time to give Clark the low-down on where he was before they showed up with their creepy-huge needle. That is AWFUL. UGH!!! It really drove me so crazy that he didn't immediately get his comeuppance in this episode, 'cause he most certain deserved it.

SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAVE ME from wanting to kick Dr. Garner's butt straight to the remains of Kryptoooooon!!!!

[skully]

Never have the open credits been so appropriate. :D

[Raistlin]

I agree, this doctor is a dirtbag. Did you see that flippin' needle? And what is wrong with Clark's hair???

[skully]

I'm here to, but just lurking..I don't have the dvd's..
Sounds like an ideal Xmas present from the family, Jim. The 10 season pack of Smallville. :D

[jpfort1957]

Everytime somebody gets a shot..............it's always green!!!!

[skully]

Hehe, toy scooter [trip]. :)

[jsm]

Mayor Tate!

[Raistlin]

Pete is built for a short dude.:lol:

[SGuthrie27]

Agreed, Raistlin -- Ryan Kelley is one of my favorite recurring guest stars in his role as Ryan James. And thanks, MrsK!

I did hear that the Garner dude was up for the role of Lex, but I think he doesn't hold a candle to Rosenbaum, which is obviously why he didn't get picked.

Clark is immediately blaming himself, of course, which is unsurprising. Pete's line about the "toy scoooooterrrr" is so goofy, but pretty funny. Thank goodness that Chloe was able to figure out where Summerholt was. You'd think they wouldn't have to trace the call, though -- did they ever just try Googling Summerholt? I'm sure they'd have to have a Web page, even if it was in the early 2000s. :p :lol:

[Karafan1]

Sounds like an ideal Xmas present from the family, Jim. The 10 season pack of Smallville. :D

I just might have to suggest that!:)

[Raistlin]

I love Lex in this episode. He is the man!

[MrsK]

I've always wondered why the Kent's assumed that Summerholt had to be in Edge City, just because that is where the aunt lived.

[skully]

"Super escoteric brain research". Clark says "what?" :)

[jpfort1957]

Pete is built for a short dude.:lol:

That might save his rump while he's in the pen!!!!

[Raistlin]

I've always wondered why the Kent's assumed that Summerholt had to be in Edge City, just because that is where the aunt lived.

They're farmers. :lol:

[SGuthrie27]

Mayor Tate is a majorly creepy guy with pretty gross teeth for a public official -- at least, that's the way he looks in that ad that Lex puts together later. I never liked the guy, and was glad he got what was coming to him in Season 3's "Relic." :cool: I'm glad that Lex didn't accept his attempt at blackmail.

[MrsK]

Mayor Tate is just creepy.

[skully]

Scumbag Mayor Tate.

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Poor Lana and very rude of Nell. :(

[jpfort1957]

I've always wondered why the Kent's assumed that Summerholt had to be in Edge City, just because that is where the aunt lived.

The phone number on the caller ID.

[Raistlin]

Pre-emptive Strike. Lana fan. You've been warned. :D

[skully]

Pre-emptive Strike. Lana fan. You've been warned. :D
All SV fans are welcome, R. And I was never a Lana hater. :)

[MrsK]

Kind of obnoxious of Nell to spring the move on Lana like that.

[SGuthrie27]

Lana on a horse -- in pink! What else is new? :rolleyes: She's a little slow on the uptake when Nell starts talking about going to Metropolis. It was a pretty big bomb to drop on her like that. I honestly can't blame her for reacting the way she did.

I love Martha's indignation at the bureaucratic red tape that Summerholt had put up. I'm even more happy with Clark's choice to go ahead, find Ryan, and rescue him himself, regardless of what his parents said. By the way, the lobby sure expanded in "Memoria" when we saw this episode again, didn't it? :p :lol:

[Raistlin]

"You can't just go into Metropolis and start ripping the doors of the place."

Sure he can. He's Clark!

[MrsK]

Last season wasn't Lana talking about going back to her real life in Metropolis?

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These Summerholt folks are really obnoxious. Smart of Clark to figure out where ryan is.

[Karafan1]

I love Martha's indignation at the bureaucratic red tape that Summerholt had put up. I'm even more happy with Clark's choice to go ahead, find Ryan, and rescue him himself, regardless of what his parents said. By the way, the lobby sure expanded in "Memoria" when we saw this episode again, didn't it? :p :lol:

They needed to look more professional I guess:lol:

[skully]

Nice Aunt - shipped Ryan off to Summerholt for a few bucks. :(

[MrsK]

Nice Aunt - shipped Ryan off to Summerholt for a few bucks. :(
And Ryan trying to make it not sound as bad as it was...

[skully]

"Kidnapping has that effect on people" Heh. :D

[Raistlin]

Has there ever been a person on Smallville that Tom Welling didn't have chemistry with?

[skully]

"Just lucky, I guess" Oh Lex, 10 seasons to work it out!! :eek:

[Raistlin]

Go, Lex. Pull out the big guns. Corporate lawyers.

[MrsK]

Has there ever been a person on Smallville that Tom Welling didn't have chemistry with?He is definitely great with the various kids they brought on.

[skully]

Heh. Garner says arrest Clark, then gives him 12 hours to make the episode work. :D

[SGuthrie27]

YAY! Pick him up, Clark! SAVE HIM! WOOOOO!!!!!!!! I love the way he just shoves that guy straight into the wall. Funny they didn't think twice about that feat of strength later. I love the look of joy on Ryan's face, even though he's groggy from all the meds they had him under.

That is one HUGE cup of gourmet cocoa. I want it!!!! :lol:

I get mad at Ryan's aunt during this conversation. I mean, sure, she must've felt that she were up against a wall, but still... there had to be another way than just giving him over to those jerks. I'm sure they sugarcoated their bit on what they were going to do with him, but still...

I admire Lex for helping Clark out, knowing the illegality of it and the risks he was undertaking. Clark really didn't think things through, but I stand behind his choice 100%. "You're the luckiest guy I ever met." :rotfl: Clark's getting SLIGHTLY better at his excuses.

And here's Ethan, in the role of quasi-bad guy again. :rolleyes: I hate Dr. Garner even more, now. What an absolute, royal jerk. What right do they have to keep Ryan???? GGGGRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[jpfort1957]

Lex was cool at times.................but now he will never remember the good he did.

[MrsK]

Love how glad the Kents are to see Ryan! Nice family moment.

[skully]

Heh, Lex rides in on his white horse and saves the day. Yeah!!! :D

[Raistlin]

Make that a Mercedes convertible. :lol:

[skully]

What a "hero" Garner is. "Your rich friend saved you today, Clark"

[MrsK]

Way to go, Lex!!

[SGuthrie27]

Warm, happy Kent family reunion with Ryan... I really wish they had been able to adopt Ryan, and do more for him. He would have been the coolest little brother for Clark. Even if they had given him a story ARC of multiple episodes, that would have been nice.

Ryan is really nice to give his aunt the benefit of the doubt in that way even though she gave him up like that. Ryan Kelley is a great actor. The look of despair and hopelessness that crossed his face when he knew they arrived... *shiver*

I love the protective stance that both the Kent men take in blocking Ryan from being taken by Dr. Garner. Why doesn't Ethan look into the matter more before just jumping the gun like this? Thank goodness that Shades-Wearing-Lawyer-Lingo-Spouting Lex showed up just in the nick of time with a major restraining order to slap on that jerk, along with that potential counter-suit. Well done, Lex!!!

Bit of foreshadowing that wouldn't play out for another season and a half in that line from Garner, but he'll get his... eventually.

[Raistlin]

Dr. Gardner looks like a vampire.

[skully]

I never liked this song. :(

[jsm]

Pete wasn't in Stray, so this is the first time Pete and Ryan meet.

[skully]

"Pete knows your secret".

[MrsK]

Why doesn't Ethan look into the matter more before just jumping the gun like this? Ethan does that a lot!

[skully]

Pete wasn't in Stray, so this is the first time Pete and Ryan meet.
Offscreenville strikes again. :)

[MrsK]

I never liked this song. :(It did seem an odd one to be featured so prominently.

[Raistlin]

I always wondered why she didn't say "I'll bring you aspirin and water."

[SGuthrie27]

I love that all those people threw the impromptu party for him. But... who are all those other kids?! I mean... it's not like he could've met a ton of people the last time he was in Smallville. They pulled in random band for the event, too. :lol: This is really a rather funny scene, but it's sweet that they went to all that trouble to give Ryan that special party. They must've had to throw together that sign awfully fast.

Ryan's comment about Pete's stress over Clark's secret was another portent of what was to come throughout the next season and a half or so. He was always convenient at filling Clark in on the things that were going on with his friends before he would have a chance to find out, himself.

:rotfl: Clark's reading The Complete Idiot's Guide to Understanding the Brain. Umm... I have no comment for that. :rolleyes: :lol:

[skully]

Clark will be a fine dad. I'd lover to see a Movie with Clark and Lois as parent!!!! :D

[MrsK]

"Pete knows your secret"."Did you know it's all stressed out about it?" Talk about foreshadowing!

[skully]

Heh, Clark is forever offering to let people stay. :)

[MrsK]

Non-angsty Clana. Nice.

[SGuthrie27]

Clark looks totally crestfallen and slightly panicked over Lana's potential big move. Nell and Dean were pretty selfish in how they just up and decided this without involving Lana in the process at all. "It's kind of crowded right now." There are only two bedrooms in the Kent farm in the first place, aren't there? I love that Clark steps up and tells her not to move and shares his feelings more honestly than he typically does. Way to go, Clark! I like the more assertive side he showed in this episode.

[skully]

"Oh Ryan, you are a gift - like Clark" Cool line. :)

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Non-angsty Clana. Nice.
Agreed.

[MrsK]

I love the way Ryan and Martha interact. "You are a gift."

[skully]

Excellent reveal.

[SGuthrie27]

It was sweet of Martha to be willing to give up her job to spend more time with Ryan, thinking he'd be with them long-term. I also like the way that Ryan knew her secret, but it wasn't actually revealed for another eight episodes -- another dose of continuity at work!

"That depends... are your hands clean?" :rotfl: Classic comic book collector humor. :lol: Bonding over Warrior Angel -- very cool scene in which Ryan sees the first signs of what Lex could (and will) become, with his talk of compromises and grey areas. Oh no... not another headache/nosebleed! NO! :(

[MrsK]

Ryan is a little nicer to Lex this time around.

[Raistlin]

Heh, Clark is forever offering to let people stay. :)

He doesn't hold a candle to Martha, though.

[skully]

Aw, sad. :(

[MrsK]

Continuity... That blood was still on the comic book in Action!

[Raistlin]

Clark looks totally crestfallen and slightly panicked over Lana's potential big move. Nell and Dean were pretty selfish in how they just up and decided this without involving Lana in the process at all. "It's kind of crowded right now." There are only two bedrooms in the Kent farm in the first place, aren't there? I love that Clark steps up and tells her not to move and shares his feelings more honestly than he typically does. Way to go, Clark! I like the more assertive side he showed in this episode.

Yeah, too bad it wasn't a real theme in his dealings with Lana.

[Karafan1]

Continuity... That blood was still on the comic book in Action!

I never noticed that!!

[Raistlin]

Ryan can really turn on the water works. Poor little guy.

[skully]

Continuity... That blood was still on the comic book in Action!
Yeah, cool touch. :)

[Raistlin]

I never noticed that!!

Me either. Now I'll have to rewatch Action and look for it!

[skully]

Lana: "Bite me, Nell, I ain't movin' " :)

[MrsK]

Touching scene. :)

[jpfort1957]

Me either. Now I'll have to rewatch Action and look for it! Me too!

[SGuthrie27]

That is SO cool how they transition from the "A Hero Cries" cover to Clark in the hospital. Clark looks so completely helpless while Ryan's unconscious, but I love the brave front he puts up for him in order to make him feel better. They have great, honest conversations with each other. You can tell that Ryan wants to be just like Clark.

BTW, that is a pretty ugly and non-dynamic comic cover... this coming from a guy who has a couple hundred he's collected. :lol: No offense to whoever drew it in the Smallville art department.

Look at those tears -- MAJOR acting chops on that kid. WHY, oh WHY couldn't they have kept him on the show for at least a little while longer?

There is yet another reason to hate Dr. Garner. His actions directly led to Ryan's tumor's growth and debilitating condition. That guy deserved a lot worse a fate than what he got in "Memoria." :mad: Jonathan did a great job of TRYING to console Clark, but I'm glad that he still tried to do everything he could to help him.

Lana was really bold to attempt the "child emancipation" angle. It was really nice and generous of Chloe to step up and offer her a place to stay, especially considering that keeping Lana in town would continue to put a roadblock in place for the Chlark relationship. Chloe really was a good friend to Lana.

[skully]

I never liked this super-speed scene much. I much preferred the red-blue blur of later seasons.

[Raistlin]

Okay, I'm really sorry to be such a hairstyle nerd, but I really don't like what's going on with Clark's hair.

[jpfort1957]

Nell should be happy to unload Lana!

[MrsK]

Some very good advice from Lex here.

[skully]

Look at those tears -- MAJOR acting chops on that kid. WHY, oh WHY couldn't they have kept him on the show for at least a little while longer?.
Indeed.

[Raistlin]

Good advice from Lex on spending time with Ryan while there is still time.

[skully]

Lex was very big-brotherly, wise and helpful in this ep. :)

[Raistlin]

I never liked this super-speed scene much.

Really? I loved it.

[jsm]

Clark was risking exposing his secret to help Ryan!

[MrsK]

I never liked this super-speed scene much. I much preferred the red-blue blur of later seasons.I agree. It looked odd for some reason.

[skully]

Heh, if Clark did this in real life at an airport, he'd be cavity-searched before he could blink!!!! :D

[SGuthrie27]

Lex was a great friend in this episode as well, and he gave Clark some great advice. At least Clark was able to give Ryan a little more time that they could spend together. AWESOME conversation and scene. I love Clark's super-speed in this scene -- very cool stuff!!!!

I never noticed the blood on the comic in "Action!" I'll have to check that out, too.

The Warrior Angel/Devilicus issue's plotline mirrors the Clark/Lex relationship in so many ways, and was a pretty big anvil, but I liked the anvils when they were related to Warrior Angel. To me, it didn't feel contrived or hokey at all. I didn't really like the "rewrite" they gave the Warrior Angel/Devilicus connection/origin in "Warrior." "The road to darkness is a journey... not a light switch." "You should remember that, Lex." Wow.

AWESOME end of Clark's run, even heading out on the tarmac to stop him just in the nick of time! Was that guy who just answered Clark's question on any other episode? He looked kind of familiar...

[jpfort1957]

425 miles to Hub City.......................Clark must be bare footed by the time he gets there.

[skully]

Take that, Mayor Tate. Lex Luthor doesn't roll over to anyone!!! :D

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425 miles to Hub City.......................Clark must be bare footed by the time he gets there.
Hehehe, I never thought of that. Super farm boots!!!! :)

[jsm]

Tate managed to win re-election? He was still Mayor nearly a year later.

[skully]

I agree. It looked odd for some reason.
Yeah Clark was running at normal speed, yet the scenery was blurring by. What the hell? :)

[SGuthrie27]

HOORAY for Dr. Burton showing up when he did and helping in that big way. I love Jonathan's and Martha's reactions, too. It was a really sweet moment. :) Look at that grin! Clark really was willing to do ANYTHING to save Ryan.

EWWWWWW!!!! The yellow teeth! THE TEETH! I love that commercial. :rotfl: Way to go, Lex!!!!! He seriously is a rock star in this episode. :cool: He lost his cool pretty quickly, which goes to show who really had the upper hand in that conversation, especially when Lex pulled out the "Winston Churchill" quote. Nicely done, Mr. Luthor. :)

[jpfort1957]

Tate does look like a bum.

[skully]

Cute scene. "You won't be the girl next door anymore" "Maybe you can give your telescope to Ryan" Touche Lana. :)

[Raistlin]

"If you start a fire, Mayor Tate, you'd better be prepared to deal with the flames." YES!

[MrsK]

Cute scene. "You won't be the girl next door anymore" "Maybe you can give your telescope to Ryan" Touche Lana. :):D

[skully]

Only the final scene of Vengeance cracks me up more than this hospital scene with Ryan and Clark. :(

[SGuthrie27]

Clark and Lana really were pretty sweet together in the entire episode. Ryan really inspired Lana, too, which was cool. The "not going to be the girl next door" comment was pretty cute, and the "telescope" remark in reply was funny.

Oh no... Martha's crying. You KNOW that can't be good... Annette O'Toole's acting with just that one word speaks volumes of her amazing talent.

:( Poor Ryan... Clark really did put up an extremely brave front for him. Oh man... These last few scenes get to me every time. I like that Ryan reveals a lighter side to Lex and wants Clark to help keep the good in him alive. *sniff*

[MrsK]

I love this scene between Clark and Ryan! So sweet. And good for Ryan for calling Clark on not listening to him.

[skully]

But I do like this song. :(

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Great episode. Now onto another good one.

[MrsK]

This is a great song.

[Raistlin]

I hate this song.

[SGuthrie27]

Oh man... THIS scene is the one that hits me the hardest of pretty much every scene in Smallville. I love this entire moment -- the conversation, the thoughtfulness Clark had, the way he's trying to pretend he's strong even though he's breaking for Ryan's fate, the song... It's just... Man... :( "You changed my life! You're going to change a lot of lives. Promise me you'll never give up?" "I promise..." :( :( :( :( :( :( :( *pans away from the balloon*

I don't know if I can watch the next scene that follows...

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Pretty amazing way they ended it, slowly backing away from Clark standing alone in the corridor with the comics as everything moved around him -- stuck knowing there was nothing he could have done, for one of the few times in his life that such a situation occurred.

Okay... gotta pop my new disc in... *sniffles*

[MrsK]

"You changed my life. You're gonna change a lot of people's lives. Promise me you'll never give up." :) Such a bittersweet scene!

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Pretty amazing way they ended it, slowly backing away from Clark standing alone in the corridor with the comics as everything moved around him -- stuck knowing there was nothing he could have done, for one of the few times in his life that such a situation occurred. That was quite well done.

[SGuthrie27]

That was one of my favorite episodes. I never tire of watching it -- both it AND Stray. They're two of the best episodes of the series, IMO, for the way they propel Clark forward, character-wise, and remind him what a hero and inspiration he is to others.

[skully]

OK, Let's go with Dichotic

[Raistlin]

Are we ready?

[MrsK]

That was one of my favorite episodes. I never tire of watching it -- both it AND Stray. They're two of the best episodes of the series, IMO, for the way they propel Clark forward, character-wise, and remind him what a hero and inspiration he is to others.:)

[skully]

Pfft, "I did the work, I came to ever class" and he expects and "A". Spoilt brat.

[jpfort1957]

Jeff.............did you ever teach shop class???

[SGuthrie27]

Okay. I just started "Dichotic." Enter: the metal shop! Is this the same place that Clark and Pete were hanging out in during "Visitor?" He was pretty harsh to his students, wasn't he? I liked Clark's "S," personally. "Good work, most of you." Ouch. Hardcase, much?"

I like how Clark x-rayed the sheet to see their grades in advance. Nice!

[jsm]

Did he think killing his teacher would help him get into college?

[MrsK]

On to Dichotic. Pretty lame attempt at a letter-opener by Ian. I thought Clark's "s" should have gotten a better grade.

[kal-el_Girl]

I'm Here!!!

[Raistlin]

Ian is creepy and weird. Oh, and how could I forget "entitled?"

[MrsK]

Pfft, "I did the work, I came to ever class" and he expects and "A". Spoilt brat.Agreed.


Did he think killing his teacher would help him get into college?Or that it would even wipe out the C that was already in the grade book?

[skully]

On to Dichotic. Pretty lame attempt at a letter-opener by Ian. I thought Clark's "s" should have gotten a better grade.
Damn straight, it was an awesome Supes "S". :)

[MrsK]

I'm Here!!!Yay! Welcome!

[SGuthrie27]

Nope, John, I never taught shop class -- thankfully, I have never had to teach high school. I don't think I could handle working with teenagers five days a week.

Couldn't Ian have asked a little more nicely, or requested some extra tutoring or lessons? And another meteor freak goes psycho.... OUCH! Was that the letter opener he got a C for? :p I wonder how many teachers turned down a job at Smallville High after hearing about the mortality rate... :lol:

[Raistlin]

So he stabs him with his letter opener??

[Karafan1]

Pretty lame attempt at a letter-opener by Ian.

He put forth the effort I usually did in my school years:lol:

[MrsK]

I guess the letter opener was good for something after all...

[skully]

Uh-oh, I love Lex's treatment of the Meter Maid. :)

[SGuthrie27]

I'm Here!!!

SWEET!!!!! :D I'm glad you're here for another re-watch! :)

[Karafan1]

I wonder how many teachers turned down a job at Smallville High after hearing about the mortality rate... :lol:

:rotfl:

[kal-el_Girl]

I love lex, why is he fighting a parking ticket? ooooh I see haha

[Raistlin]

I guess the letter opener was good for something after all...


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[MrsK]

Lex taking a 9-iron to the meter maid's car... Who hasn't wanted to do something like that at some point?!

[skully]

And he was Sosnick in Fanatic and the Director in Action. :)

[kal-el_Girl]

Yay! Welcome!

thank you MrsK

[Raistlin]

Lex, dude! I love your sunglasses.

[MrsK]

Poor Clark - he goes to all the trouble of helping Lana move, then she and Chloe totally blow him off! :(

[skully]

Heh. "When you two are scheduled to take a breath..."

[jpfort1957]

Did the meter maid really need to check out the car tag to know it was Lex???

[kal-el_Girl]

oh no, I had a green sweater EXACTLY like Lana's

[jsm]

Working on the tractor again. Did it finally get fixed before the series ended?

[Raistlin]

Here's something that doesn't happen to Clark everyday. Both his girls blow him off.

[skully]

Poor Clark - he goes to all the trouble of helping Lana move, then she and Chloe totally blow him off! :(
Yeah, I really loath the way they treat him in this episode.

[SGuthrie27]

For a guy with a 4.0 and such a concern for grades (supposedly being a major brainiac), you'd think he'd know better than to use the item he created in shop to murder his teacher with. :rolleyes:

That meter maid was a total pompous jerk. Lex's little speech/golf club combo was hilarious. :lol: Nice...

This is the first time we've actually seen Chloe & her dad's house. It's really pretty! I wish we could have seen it more often.

That was a pretty telling line from Clark, and Lana could obviously infer what he was talking about. SO much teen angst in this episode... Poor Clark, with neither of his two leading ladies to spend time with. :( I am a major defender of Clark in this episode, as I didn't like the way either Chloe or Lana treated him later on.

[skully]

That's just poor jack work, Jono. Safety first. :eek:

[kal-el_Girl]

ouch! that tractor scene is painful to watch...

[MrsK]

Ouch! I guess it's lucky for Jonathan that the girls were too busy to do something with Clark.

[skully]

Cute Chloe at her best in this scene with Ian at the Torch. :)

[Karafan1]

oh no, I had a green sweater EXACTLY like Lana's

Had as in you just got rid of it?:p

[MrsK]

Yeah, I really loath the way they treat him in this episode.Indeed. It only gets worse from here! When are they going to figure out that Clark is usually right about these things?

[Karafan1]

Working on the tractor again. Did it finally get fixed before the series ended?
I doubt it:lol:

[Raistlin]

For a guy with a 4.0 and such a concern for grades (supposedly being a major brainiac), you'd think he'd know better than to use the item he created in shop to murder his teacher with. :rolleyes:

That meter maid was a total pompous jerk. Lex's little speech/golf club combo was hilarious. :lol: Nice...

This is the first time we've actually seen Chloe & her dad's house. It's really pretty! I wish we could have seen it more often.

That was a pretty telling line from Clark, and Lana could obviously infer what he was talking about. SO much teen angst in this episode... Poor Clark, with neither of his two leading ladies to spend time with. :( I am a major defender of Clark in this episode, as I didn't like the way either Chloe or Lana treated him later on.

Yeah, they were kind of *itchy towards him. But hey! They're angsty teenagers. :lol:

[MrsK]

They capture the awkward high school flirting pretty well here.

[skully]

Jeff's fave Recurring Guest, Dr. Helen Bryce!!!! :)

[Raistlin]

Now, I think Jonathan was a real butt to Martha in this scene.

[jpfort1957]

This is the first time we've actually seen Chloe & her dad's house. It's really pretty! I wish we could have seen it more often.



How was it that Clark, Chloe, and Pete all rode the same school bus????

[skully]

Hehe, excellent first scene between Lex and Helen. :)

[MrsK]

I love Helen's reaction to Lex here - and his reaction to her not wanting anything to do with him! I guess that doesn't happen often!

[SGuthrie27]

Oh no!!! Poor Jonathan... I'm glad that Clark was able to get to him to help him pretty quickly. How did Clark hear him all the way from the barn like that? An early sign of super-hearing? And Jonathan sure healed up from that wound really quickly, didn't he?

Ian's a little overly flirtatious with Chloe, but it's clear that he's only trying to use her, hoping that her article on him would give him the extra push to head to college early. Why is Chloe's weirdar on the fritz every time when it comes to guys that she finds attractive? :p

HELEN!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D I LOVE HELEN BRYCE! Her appearance in this episode will help console me from the other aspects of it that I don't like quite as much, and how worse it is in comparison to "Ryan."

:lol: That is awesome that Lex dropped off that business card for his specialist for just a broken leg. This is a great first meeting/conversation (well, actually second, considering what she reveals about an earlier encounter later). You can tell that he's immediately intrigued. And no wonder... she is totally hot. ;)

[kal-el_Girl]

Had as in you just got rid of it?:p


haha, yeah I had it in my closet just now and noticed that lana's copycat sweater and threw away just now...
haha not really, I had it like a while back ago and really don't remember what happen to it ;)

[MrsK]

I like Clark ribbing Lex about the 9-iron incident. We don't get to see the "lighter side of Clark" often enough.

[Raistlin]

I liked Clark ragging on Lex about the 9 iron.

[Karafan1]

haha, yeah I had it in my closet just now and noticed that lana's copycat sweater and threw away just now...
haha not really, I had it like a while back ago and really don't remember what happen to it ;)

:lol: Cool...What will you do if you find it?

[skully]

Aw, darn it, I've been volunteered to give a family member a lift. Gotta fly. :(

Dichotic is one of the most underrated of the series. And I love Clark telling the girls off at the end of the ep. :D

See you all next week.

[SGuthrie27]

This is true, Raistlin. And Skully, I think Helen Bryce is tied with Ryan James as my fave recurring guest, so this episode pairing is kind of the best of both worlds in a lot of ways.

You can tell that Chloe really was enjoying herself, and loved the attention he was getting from Ian. The jerk... Two-timing moron. :mad:

[Raistlin]

Clark's not liking Ian moving in on Lana.

[jpfort1957]

Chloe alway attracted the psycho murder types.

[MrsK]

Bye, skully!


Ugh! Ian splitting in two is something I don't need to see.... Creepy!

[Raistlin]

Aw, darn it, I've been volunteered to give a family member a lift. Gotta fly. :(

Dichotic is one of the most underrated of the series. And I love Clark telling the girls off at the end of the ep. :D

See you all next week.

Bye! It was fun.

[Karafan1]

See ya Skully!!

[kal-el_Girl]

:lol: Cool...What will you do if you find it?

mmhh??? Burn It, :rotfl:

[Raistlin]

Okay, that was just nasty.

[kal-el_Girl]

Bye, skully!


Ugh! Ian splitting in two is something I don't need to see.... Creepy!

and gross too :confused:

[jpfort1957]

Take it easy Steve!!!

[SGuthrie27]

This is a pretty gross scene. Where is he changing, anyway? What is that place in the Talon? :lol: That is one of the goofiest CGI stunts I think they've done on Smallville. And does he just happen to ALWAYS carry around a second set of identical clothing everywhere he goes?

BTW, what ever happened to that car Chloe was driving? We saw it first in "Tempest," I think, but by "Fever," she had the new VW Beetle.

Jonathan never was one to take an injury lying down... or even sitting down. And honestly, how much repair does one tractor need, anyway?

[MrsK]

Clark and Jonathan aren't the only Kents who blame themselves for everything!

[Karafan1]

mmhh??? Burn It, :rotfl:

That's what I thought:lol:

[MrsK]

Ian isn't very subtle about what he really wants from Lana, is he?

[Karafan1]

And honestly, how much repair does one tractor need, anyway?

Depends on how old it is I guess:lol:

[MrsK]

Why does Lana assume Clark doesn't know what he is talking about here? He DOES know the facts, Lana; you don't!

[SGuthrie27]

Awwwwww, bye, Skully! I really like that closing scene (or at least Clark's end of it), too!

"Lana and I are just friends." Come on, Clark. Not only are you completely transparent as far as Lana's concern, but you're talking to your best friend Pete. :rolleyes:

That was pretty fast, Lana. Kissing him after just one study session?? Whoa -- is that the same poetry letter that Byron wrote her that's taped up in her locker? Nice continuity!

Clark DID have the facts, Lana. Maybe if you'd actually listened to him (as you didn't do any of the other times you were followed by a stalker), you wouldn't have ended up getting nearly chucked off a dam. :rolleyes:

[kal-el_Girl]

And honestly, how much repair does one tractor need, anyway?

Well, I think we never found it if Clark EVER fixed that tractor, wait.. this is not the same tractor right? this is the tractor that almost killed Perry White and then Pa' Kent bought the green tractor that was always broken haha not a good investment I guess.

[MrsK]

Love Helen's name tag here. One of my daughters has taken to doing the same thing ever since she saw this ep!

[Raistlin]

LOL Love Helen's name tag: Bored Silly.

[kal-el_Girl]

That's what I thought:lol:

:p

[Raistlin]

MrsK we are on a roll.

[MrsK]

And now it's Chloe's turn to ignore Clark and assume he doesn't know what he is talking about.

[Karafan1]

Love Helen's name tag here. One of my daughters has taken to doing the same thing ever since she saw this ep!

Awesome!:lol:

[MrsK]

MrsK we are on a roll.We do seem to be an the same wavelength tonight!

[Raistlin]

Hoo. Cheap shot, Ian.

[jpfort1957]

How does Clark keep from thumpin' Ian???

[MrsK]

Clark didn't exactly dump Chloe the day after spring formal, Ian. She is the one who pulled the "just friends" card. Nice that Clark sees exactly what Ian is up to and calls him on it!

----- Added 44 Seconds later -----

Even Pete doesn't believe Clark... until the body falls on him! Yikes!!:eek:

[SGuthrie27]

"I drop-kicked an orderly. I have a violent reaction to incompetence." :rotfl: "So what'd you do. Verbally demean your butler?" That's awesome... I love this entire scene. Her "Bored Silly" name tag is a cute touch, too. I can't blame Lex for being immediately enchanted by her.

Chloe should have given Clark more leeway, too, considering her past experience with crazy jerks. And seriously, they were more than a bit "close" -- he could have just told her that he saw Ian kissing Lana in the hallway. Wouldn't that be enough? What is with the girls and their guilt trippy, whiny comments in this episode?

And Clark did NOT break up with Chloe the day after Spring Formal. SHE'S the one who pulled the "let's just be friends" card.

I love the way that Clark kept figuring out what was going on. He was so proactive in this episode! I wish Pete wouldn't balk all the time when Clark wanted to investigate things. He was the same way in "Extinction" when they happened upon Van McNulty's hit list in that hunting cabin.

SO creepy! Falling corpses are never pleasant surprises...

[jsm]

Principal Reynolds refrence!

The dead body falls on Pete when he opened the cabinet. I think I saw that on The Three Stooges once. :p

[MrsK]

I always wondered why Ian was even there to set that fire... Did he follow Clark?

[Raistlin]

So, Clark just walks into Chloe's house?

[MrsK]

It is becoming more and more obvious that Clark is right, and neither Lana nor Chloe give him the time of day! I am so glad he stands up to them.

[Raistlin]

Okay, this is one of the few times when I want to shake Lana. She sure knows how to jump to conclusions.

[SGuthrie27]

And again, Clark comes, knowing exactly what happened, and with actual facts, and what does Chloe do? She completely sweeps it under the rug. :rolleyes:

"I didn't order the side of hostility." :lol: Nice, Clark. And again, Lana completely ignores the facts, too. These scenes are SO lame. Don't bother trying to convince them, Clark. They may as well be sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "La-la-la-la-la!"

[Raistlin]

I wish Helen hadn't been a snake. I liked her.

[Karafan1]

These scenes are SO lame. Don't bother trying to convince them, Clark. They may as well be sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "La-la-la-la-la!"

:rotfl: Clark shoulda said 'I told you so' at the end!!

[MrsK]

I wish Helen hadn't been a snake. I liked her.Me, too. They way they ended her storyline seemed like a major lightswitch.

[SGuthrie27]

The Principal Reynolds line totally went over my head! Thanks for mentioning it!

I wonder why we never saw Helen's father at all... or if he uses any of the same tactics as Dr. Elise Fine from "Facade." :p

"I terrorize meter-maids." "I drop-kick orderlies. It's funny... I was never an angry child." Thus begins a beautiful relationship... at least temporarily. :rolleyes:

Couldn't someone else have figured out that Ian was double-booked on classes before this point? Wouldn't his PARENTS know? Clark was so smart to use that pager ploy to find out the truth for sure. Nicely done, Mr. Kent! Future superhero in action!

[Raistlin]

Pete and Clark shouldn't give up their day jobs. If they'd been tailing anyone other than Ian they would have been SO made.

[MrsK]

Love how proactive Clark is in this episode.

[SGuthrie27]

I loved Helen, Raistlin, and you're right, MrsK, it was a VERY abrupt change and so unlike the way she'd been portrayed for practically the entire second season. "Clark... give it a rest." YOU give it a rest, Chloe -- Little Miss Dated-a-Heat-Sucking-Horn-Dog-and-Chainsaw-Wielding-Telekinetic. :rolleyes: :rotfl:

[Raistlin]

Good one, Chloe! Re: Clark and secrets getting into everybody else's business. :lol:

[kal-el_Girl]

Martha could've found a different job, she didn't need to work for the Luthors

[MrsK]

So now it looks like Lana actually did believe Clark. Why was she so mean to him, then?
Poor Chloe always feels so threatened by Lana; at least that sort of explains her reactions to Clark's "help"

The two of you are almost my equal. Ian really is a piece of work, isn't he?!

[kal-el_Girl]

"He fooled me too Chloe" she sounded very conceded ugh shocking...

[Raistlin]

Yeah, this is when not listening to Clark becomes a problem. And why would anyone believe that hokey "suicide" note?

[MrsK]

I don't really think Ian is trying to kill the girls to get to Clark so much as to protect his secret. Why does Clark think that?

[SGuthrie27]

"The two for one special?" :lol:

Ian is such a total arrogant jerk. "Together, you're almost my equal." I wish Lana already had her OWN drop-kicking powers that she gains in "Precipice." I'd think they'd have been able to been more of a threat to him -- even if there were two of him -- from the time this scene occurs to the drive to the dam. How was/were he/they able to overpower BOTH of them that easily and kept them from escaping all that time? How'd he/they even get them across the parking lot to that car? So many plot holes... They're not even bound!

That suicide note was so obviously fake. I'm not seeing much of the "smart" Ian in the bulk of this episode. Book-smart, maybe... but zero wisdom or common sense.

GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY FAVORITE TINY BLONDE!!!! :mad: Nice catch, Clark! And eat that, Ian!

[MrsK]

And why would anyone believe that hokey "suicide" note?
You'd think someone as smart as Ian would come up with something better than that!

[kal-el_Girl]

yes lana you made a mistake that almost killed you!!!!!!!

[Raistlin]

That Chloe save was before Clark had finesse.

[jsm]

There's an extended scene on the DVD where Ian dies from the fall. It's a good thing they kept him alive so they could bring him back!

[SGuthrie27]

Lana sure did a lot of panting in this scene. :lol: I'm literally laughing out loud here. That fakey fall was pretty ridiculous looking, too. Is this the same dam that we get to see a lot of at the end of season 6 and beginning of season 7???

[Raistlin]

yes lana you made a mistake that almost killed you!!!!!!!

Get off my girl, kal. She was trying to make Clark jealous. LOL

[Karafan1]

GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY FAVORITE TINY BLONDE!!!! :mad:

:lol: Good thing Clark got to Ian before you did Jeff!!

[Raistlin]

Ooo look. Jonathan is not acting like a Neanderthal.

[kal-el_Girl]

Get off my girl, kal. She was trying to make Clark jealous. LOL

:rolleyes: I guess haha

[Raistlin]

Don't beat yourself up, Chloe. Lana has attracted her share of creepy suitors.

[MrsK]

Nice Chloe/Lana scene here.

----- Added 36 Seconds later -----

Love Clark's reaction: "This can't be good." :lol:

[SGuthrie27]

I love Jonathan's honesty with Martha in this moment. They always keep the air clear and open between the two of them and resolve their issues speedily. I absolutely LOVE their relationship, and the way they're completely supportive of each other, even when they don't totally see eye-to-eye on certain things.

"How're you doing?" "Feeling a little freak. Kind of stupid." Kind of? :p "It only went as far as it did because we weren't honest with each other." And because you didn't listen to Clark's REPEATED WARNING'S that the guy was cheating on them both and was even a murderous psycho -- something he actually witnessed firsthand!

The rules of the Sullivan house were pretty hilarious. I do like Chloe's and Lana's friendship, even if it is occasionally a bit dysfunctional.

[Raistlin]

I love this scene! I wish I cared. Hey!

[MrsK]

Clark makes a good point about their dismissing him. Chloe brings up his past of being less than honest and conveniently forgets how often he is RIGHT about all these creepy guys and how many times he has saved both of them. Love Lana's facial expression when he says he just wants to be friends! Way to go Clark... they deserved that!

[SGuthrie27]

True that, Jim!

This conversation....... :rolleyes: YES, Clark CAN blame the two of you. "The truth is that I expected more from both of you." "And we expected more from you." Like what? What more did you expect of him beyond him REPEATEDLY TELLING YOU about Ian, saving BOTH your lives... UGH! Just shut up, both of you!!!! "We made a mistake... but it was both ours to make." Yeah, a mistake that almost got you hurled off the dam and killed. Great choice. You sound almost like you hope you make more similar ones in the future. :p WAY to go, Clark. You tell 'em! I love the way he walks off down the street with that smile on his face afterwards. You SHOULD be smiling, Clark. Nice work!!!!!

[Raistlin]

I had fun. See you later, kids!