#2.8 "Furt"

[KSiteTV]

Note that's not a typo; I didn't mean to type "fart" or anything. ;p

Count down to tonight's episode airing, discuss it live when it airs, and then let this be the episode thread too!

Here are some images: http://www.ksitetv.com/4478/glee-furt-images-with-carol-burnett/

[Embraceurside]

YAY! it looks like Sue will be singing today ?
Oh Lord.. i dont know if im looking foward to that ..

Episode Description
"Sues mother comes to town to visit her daughters; relationships continue to develop among the members of glee club."

ideas ?

[Embraceurside]

Watching Glee right now.

So far
Sues mother comes in and just sings i love how in the song they get there anger out.

Why is sue marrying herself?
The football player is expelled :( SIGH then we wont know if he stops being confused yet. Is he gay or straight \
Rachel tells Finn that she really didnt sleep with Jessie and not Satana is acting like she likes Finn is this blackmail ?

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Kurt and Finn are crying sniffle *

[KSiteTV]

I haven't seen the episode yet, but with Carol Burnett being on, I'm thinking it would have been funny if she and Sue sang something from "Annie" that did not involve Miss Hannigan.

(That was 5 year old me's favorite movie)

[Embraceurside]

Finn finally has a big heartfelt turn around !

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I haven't seen the episode yet, but with Carol Burnett being on, I'm thinking it would have been funny if she and Sue sang something from "Annie" that did not involve Miss Hannigan.

(That was 5 year old me's favorite movie)
Sorry if im giving away too much. I like to Live it now. But its a good song i wont tell u though

[lanalang1018]

Great episode! I loved both songs performed by the entire cast during the wedding scenes. Especially the one at the reception! What a perfect for “Furt” :)


I don’t want to spoil anything for West Coast viewers, but I’m really looking forward to seeing how things play out next week for Kurt.

[VilleFan]

This episode has turned out to be one of my favorites in the series! Maybe that's because of Carol Burnett (I have loved the "Carol Burnett Show" since I was a little kid), but idk. This episode was just great. It tugged at all the right heartstings.

Sectionals next week! Wow, has time flown...

The only negative thing I have to say is that the show hasn't built up to sectionals nearly as much as it should have. I had forgotten sectionals were coming up until the promo came up. In season 1, they were on sectionals hype for quite a few epsiodes leading up to the actual event... ah well.

[KSiteTV]

The funniest part was when Sue was coming up with new names for Kurt. "Tickle me doe face" LOL

I think the show is still going a little bit overboard with its Kurt love. There are other characters on the show, but the way they write about and treat him, he's a saint and none of the other kids have any problems at all.

Is it me or is Puck slowly being written out? He barely had anything to do this week.

I loved seeing Carol Burnett, although I think she's finally starting to age :( I was glad Sue actually was kind of a good guy in the end, offering to have Kurt's back.

I have to also say, none of the music this week really worked for me, though I liked the way the wedding stuff played out. So far, I can only think of three musical moments that stood out to me - "Telephone" from the season premiere, the Kurt/Rachel duet "Happy Days Are Here Again," and of course Darren Criss and "Teenage Dream." Kinda weird too that one and a half of those were by guest stars... which is the other thing that I'm finding weird, I'm liking some of the newer characters (like Sam and Coach Bieste) more interesting than some of the old ones.

Oh, and I was SO GLAD to not have Will being a manwhore again this week. Any non-Will episodes are now welcomed to me.

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Forgot something: I thought the "nazi hunter" gag fell flat. I guess it was meant to be crazy, but I thought it was a bit too over the top, even for Glee.

[Embraceurside]

The funniest part was when Sue was coming up with new names for Kurt. "Tickle me doe face" LOL

I think the show is still going a little bit overboard with its Kurt love. There are other characters on the show, but the way they write about and treat him, he's a saint and none of the other kids have any problems at all.

Is it me or is Puck slowly being written out? He barely had anything to do this week.

I loved seeing Carol Burnett, although I think she's finally starting to age :( I was glad Sue actually was kind of a good guy in the end, offering to have Kurt's back.

I have to also say, none of the music this week really worked for me, though I liked the way the wedding stuff played out. So far, I can only think of three musical moments that stood out to me - "Telephone" from the season premiere, the Kurt/Rachel duet "Happy Days Are Here Again," and of course Darren Criss and "Teenage Dream." Kinda weird too that one and a half of those were by guest stars... which is the other thing that I'm finding weird, I'm liking some of the newer characters (like Sam and Coach Bieste) more interesting than some of the old ones.

Oh, and I was SO GLAD to not have Will being a manwhore again this week. Any non-Will episodes are now welcomed to me.

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Forgot something: I thought the "nazi hunter" gag fell flat. I guess it was meant to be crazy, but I thought it was a bit too over the top, even for Glee.

I think that was offensive when Sue didnt ask for his real name she just came up with all these other offensive names and Kurt had to choose the best one "Porcelain"
and there not writing him like a saint there just showing how hes getting picked on and theres a struggle in his life so everyone is deciding to stick up for him.

I likes how Sue did that too and the songs dynamics they sang werent good but at the end of the song it was. i also loved at the end when Sue decided to stick up to her mother and say "Mother your a bully"
and im kind of fancying some new characters too. Sam but i hate how the writers wrote Puck this season he was so good and now they turned him back to bad they even messed up the relationships. IMO
and This is one of the episodes that was MUSICALY intresting to me. but it was kind of just filling in things so we can move along and patching some things up

Sad thing is Kurt is leaving :( I wonder how that will play out

[KSiteTV]

I think that was offensive when Sue didnt ask for his real name she just came up with all these other offensive names and Kurt had to choose the best one "Porcelain"
and there not writing him like a saint there just showing how hes getting picked on and theres a struggle in his life so everyone is deciding to stick up for him.

But EVERY character on the show gets picked on. Not just Kurt. Now, he's the only one who got a death threat yes, but the show has quickly turned from Glee to The Kurt Hummel Show. Even the wedding became all about Kurt.

Damian Holbrook at TV Guide wrote a really good column about it: http://bit.ly/g6xy7K

[CloisShipper]

Well I thought it was a great episode so it's overall a 10.

Likes :

LOVED the Finchel! yay I got my Finchel fix!. Lol at the nod that the show gave to the various shipper names in Finn's speech, ha ha.
Loved that Rachel didn't want to stand by as Kurt got bullied. I loved her that.
Loved Sue in this one. Love how she had Kurt's back in the end and lol at the choices of names she gave him.
I loved the songs. Just the way you are and marry you were fantastic. I loved Finn in this one! :D.
I enjoyed the Sam/Quinn stuff. They are a really sweet couple.
I loved Burt/Carol, they are really sweet.
I liked that Finn and Kurt are now like brothers, that's nice.

Dislikes:

I can't say I like Santana right now. If you ask me, I find her a bit of a bully especially towards Rachel. I wonder if they are doing that on purpose or not. I hope she backs off.
I wish that they had more screen time for other characters besides Kurt. It seems this season they are mostly focusing on Kurt now. I hope they bring up some other characters issues and home lives.

Also I do not have any idea where they are going with Kurt transferring to Dantons other than to develop his storyline with Blaine more but I wonder what will happen to his and Finn's brotherly relationship especially when they end up competing against the other.

[Ginx]

I really enjoyed this episode. I thought the whole wedding was really cute. I do agree that Sue's nicknames were unprofessional and it should have just been left out.

[KSiteTV]

I think Sue has always used unprofessional slurs, and it was to show how she was like her mother in that regard, and how she learned from the events of the episode and was being nicer later.

I mean, last season, she was calling characters names like "Asian" and "Other Asian." She doesn't think before she speaks and is very insensitive... that is Sue's character. So it didn't bother me at all, and the ridiculousness of some of the names like the "doe face" thing made me laugh, especially a lot more than the whole "Nazi hunter mom" thing which seemed ridiculous.

[MannaBanana]

Haha does Becky even have Class anymore? It seems like all she does is be Sues assistant! Either way, I like her! :)

Ummm What the Hell Sam?! Hes acting like a Character from "The Secret Life Of The American Teenager"!!!! If a guy I barely knew said he loved me and then got down on 1 knee with a ring I would be freaked out, NOT charmed! What is he, 6 years old?!

:lol: Sue and her mom! 2 peas in a pod!

Kurts always such a jerk to Rachel, yet shes always standing up for him and helping him out! I dont understand why everybody is so mean to her and hates her so much! All she every does is help out everybody when things are going wrong in their life.

Whats with the Lack of Puck? :( They are barely using him anymore! I could use a little more Puck and a little less Kurt and Sam! I mean he didn't even sing during the wedding! Everybody had lines and he just stood there! Grrrrr

I really enjoyed how they made the Singing a part of the wedding instead of just a random burst into number moment! They are doing a really good job of making the singing part of the plot and not the other way around this season! :)

:rotfl:Sues Track suit Wedding Dress!!!!!!! OMG I love it!:rotfl:

I wonder how they are going to be able to perform at sectionals with only 11 members? Thats against the rules.

[KSiteTV]

I LOVED Sue's track suit wedding dress. It was so very Sue.

[Embraceurside]

But EVERY character on the show gets picked on. Not just Kurt. Now, he's the only one who got a death threat yes, but the show has quickly turned from Glee to The Kurt Hummel Show. Even the wedding became all about Kurt.

Damian Holbrook at TV Guide wrote a really good column about it: http://bit.ly/g6xy7K

Yes, mabey everyone does but that dosent mean there turning Glee into the Kurt show there just focusing on Kurts life right now to fill in the information like without talking about Kurt we wouldnt have known the football player was gay. We wouldnt have known anyone was sticking up for him we wouldnt know some of the new relationships we wouldnt have had the wedding kurts dad and Fins mom wouldnt have had been married Finn wouldnt have opened his eyes and finally realized good.

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I LOVED Sue's track suit wedding dress. It was so very Sue.

:lol: Something we agree on !

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Haha does Becky even have Class anymore? It seems like all she does is be Sues assistant! Either way, I like her! :)

Ummm What the Hell Sam?! Hes acting like a Character from "The Secret Life Of The American Teenager"!!!! If a guy I barely knew said he loved me and then got down on 1 knee with a ring I would be freaked out, NOT charmed! What is he, 6 years old?!

:lol: Sue and her mom! 2 peas in a pod!

Kurts always such a jerk to Rachel, yet shes always standing up for him and helping him out! I dont understand why everybody is so mean to her and hates her so much! All she every does is help out everybody when things are going wrong in their life.

Whats with the Lack of Puck? :( They are barely using him anymore! I could use a little more Puck and a little less Kurt and Sam! I mean he didn't even sing during the wedding! Everybody had lines and he just stood there! Grrrrr

I really enjoyed how they made the Singing a part of the wedding instead of just a random burst into number moment! They are doing a really good job of making the singing part of the plot and not the other way around this season! :)

:rotfl:Sues Track suit Wedding Dress!!!!!!! OMG I love it!:rotfl:

I wonder how they are going to be able to perform at sectionals with only 11 members? Thats against the rules.


Of course Becky dosent have class anymore. Shes the assistant well i think she will have class now that Sue is resigning as principal.
and Sam is just doing that to be popular remember Finn said that he wont be able to become popular . So he ran to marry Quin Anyways, I hate that Quin acaully accepted didnt she learn about stupid decisions last season !!!! DANG IT ! :mad:
and how was Kurt a jerk AT ALL he was nice to Rachel. Everyone is nice to Rachel the only person who isnt it Sattana. and shes always an egotistical person thats why there sometimes they may come across mean .

I agree with you in the Puck situation less others more straightening out Puck I love there singing. and i LOVED Sues wedding /Suit ? :lol:

and i dont know :( thats SO SAD i HATE HATE HATE that Kurt has to apparently just come out of that school and then hes gonna be compeating against them ughhhh i feel another Jessie thing coming on idk...:mad:

[Novak Fan]

I mean, last season, she was calling characters names like "Asian" and "Other Asian." She doesn't think before she speaks and is very insensitive... that is Sue's character. So it didn't bother me at all, and the ridiculousness of some of the names like the "doe face" thing made me laugh, especially a lot more than the whole "Nazi hunter mom" thing which seemed ridiculous.

Totally. Honestly, I also think that when she was calling Kurt "lady" she was trying to be polite since she knows he's gay. In her own Sue kind of way of course :lol: I dont think she was trying to be offensive. Well, not really.

I second everybody thoughts about Kurt and Glee though. It's starting to annoys me as well. I haven't read any spoiler for next week or anything but him being out of WMH, it seems we are gonna get more Kurt struggling as well. Seriously, I like Kurt and I love Chris Colfer but I think Glee needs to back up a bit on him.

Personally I don't care that much about what happens to Finn but I'm glad they are using the Santana/Finn storyline finally. And also that he stood up for Rachel for once.

Oh, and I think Quinn hadn't had so many lines since Bad reputation lol

[MannaBanana]

and how was Kurt a jerk AT ALL he was nice to Rachel. Everyone is nice to Rachel the only person who isnt it Sattana. and shes always an egotistical person thats why there sometimes they may come across mean .


Well he wasnt in this episode, but he is always a jerk to Rachel. And usually if they make up in 1 episode he will just be mean to her in the next episode. I just dont like how they all treat her. Kurt especially. And I understand he is scared and everything, but he is totally screwing the whole Glee club over and they just did so much for him showing they had his back. I think thats kinda selfish. They wernt going to let anything happen to him when Karofsky came back to school. He could have at least waited til after sectionals. I mean its only a week :rolleyes:

[Novak Fan]

and how was Kurt a jerk AT ALL he was nice to Rachel. Everyone is nice to Rachel the only person who isnt it Sattana. and shes always an egotistical person thats why there sometimes they may come across mean .

I totally missed this, but sorry...I agree with Amanda 100% . EVERYONE (including Finn sometimes) is mean to Rachel. I mean, what she did with Kurt on this episode and on Duets , I bet one of my arms that he hadn't done the same for her. Damn, no one could have done the same for her. Personally I think they are too hard on her.

[Genny]

^Agree. I've never really gotten why people are mean to Rachel, she's not that bad. Sure she likes to be the center of attention a lot but that's not a reason to treat her the way a lot of the characters do. A lot of the characters talk down to her and pick on her. Although, I have to say, no one was particularly mean to her in this episode.

[LuthorKent90]

The episode was good but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how the wedding seemed to focus more on Kurt than Mr. Hummel and Finn's mom(who's name I can't even remember :o), or even Finn. Finn was basically made out to look like a horrible person because he didn't want to fight some bully for Kurt. Complete overreaction.
Why was Finn made to become Kurt's bodyguard anyway? They're making it out to seem that Kurt can't defend himself at all and he needs a group of people guarding him at school. Ugh.


Anyway loved Matthew's sexy sway number :D and Marry You. :D
Also nice seeing more of Quinn, and Sam is cute but that scene was so dumb with the promise ring. It came off as so forced and fake!:lol:

Sue; I was shocked at how well she was handling her principal responsibilities!:lol: And boy with a mother like that no wonder Sue is like she is.:lol:
It will be nice having Figgins back. I miss her funny blackmailing scenes with him.

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Is it me or is Puck slowly being written out? He barely had anything to do this week.

Oh, and I was SO GLAD to not have Will being a manwhore again this week. Any non-Will episodes are now welcomed to me.


Yes even though I don't really care for him. You can totally feel the complete lack of Puckness.
Then again he's not the only one being ignored this season-
When oh when is Tina going to have a scene that doesn't involve her new annoying boyfriend or singing with the group??

Man-Whore will.:lol::lol::lol: Saint Kurt and Man-Whore Will the most important things they want to focus on this season.

[MannaBanana]

I totally missed this, but sorry...I agree with Amanda 100% . EVERYONE (including Finn sometimes) is mean to Rachel. I mean, what she did with Kurt on this episode and on Duets , I bet one of my arms that he hadn't done the same for her. Damn, no one could have done the same for her. Personally I think they are too hard on her.


^Agree. I've never really gotten why people are mean to Rachel, she's not that bad. Sure she likes to be the center of attention a lot but that's not a reason to treat her the way a lot of the characters do. A lot of the characters talk down to her and pick on her. Although, I have to say, no one was particularly mean to her in this episode.
Glad im not the only person who feels this way! :)

[Embraceurside]

Well he wasnt in this episode, but he is always a jerk to Rachel. And usually if they make up in 1 episode he will just be mean to her in the next episode. I just dont like how they all treat her. Kurt especially. And I understand he is scared and everything, but he is totally screwing the whole Glee club over and they just did so much for him showing they had his back. I think thats kinda selfish. They wernt going to let anything happen to him when Karofsky came back to school. He could have at least waited til after sectionals. I mean its only a week :rolleyes:

Kurt was in this episode. Furt is "Finn and Kurt" it was probably about Finn and Kurt allot. and give me an example of when he was mean please cause i dont even see him being mean he is so grateful.

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I totally missed this, but sorry...I agree with Amanda 100% . EVERYONE (including Finn sometimes) is mean to Rachel. I mean, what she did with Kurt on this episode and on Duets , I bet one of my arms that he hadn't done the same for her. Damn, no one could have done the same for her. Personally I think they are too hard on her.
Yeah they sometimes are hard on her . but whats your point ? Why are we centralizing on Kurt now ?

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^Agree. I've never really gotten why people are mean to Rachel, she's not that bad. Sure she likes to be the center of attention a lot but that's not a reason to treat her the way a lot of the characters do. A lot of the characters talk down to her and pick on her. Although, I have to say, no one was particularly mean to her in this episode.
Thank you Genny . I think everyone was centering on this one episode witch is what i disagree i mean in OTHER episodes mabey yes.

[Novak Fan]

Yeah they sometimes are hard on her . but whats your point ? Why are we centralizing on Kurt now ?


My point? I don't have a point I guess, just facts. You said that Kurt haven't been mean to Rachel at all, well, he has been. Not on this episode because I think they didn't have any interactions? but he had been before.

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Kurt was in this episode. Furt is "Finn and Kurt" it was probably about Finn and Kurt allot. and give me an example of when he was mean please cause i dont even see him being mean he is so grateful.



She didn't meant that Kurt wasn't on screen on this episode. She was talking about that he wasn't mean meaning harsh to Rachel on this episode. There's a misunderstanding I think

[Embraceurside]

My point? I don't have a point I guess, just facts. You said that Kurt haven't been mean to Rachel at all, well, he has been. Not on this episode because I think they didn't have any interactions? but he had been before.

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She didn't meant that Kurt wasn't on screen on this episode. She was talking about that he wasn't mean meaning harsh to Rachel on this episode. There's a misunderstanding I think
I meant at all in this episode not at all in the seasons. They had some interactions. and oh i thought she was saying He WAS mean to Rachel on this episode. Oh.

[Novak Fan]

Ok, it's cool :)

BTW I forgot to comment, it was weird to not see Blaine at the wedding since Kurt and him are close now. Or so it seemed in The substitute *shrugs*

[Embraceurside]

Ok, it's cool :)

BTW I forgot to comment, it was weird to not see Blaine at the wedding since Kurt and him are close now. Or so it seemed in The substitute *shrugs*

OHHH YEAH ! that WAS diffrent. I guess he didnt want Blane to come into his life fast. cause then mabey he thinks Blane will feel like hes being rushed into a relationship with kurt? Though im so glad there together. well its funny how Kurt is going to Blaine's school. the Zero tolerance School.

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The episode was good but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how the wedding seemed to focus more on Kurt than Mr. Hummel and Finn's mom(who's name I can't even remember :o), or even Finn. Finn was basically made out to look like a horrible person because he didn't want to fight some bully for Kurt. Complete overreaction.
Why was Finn made to become Kurt's bodyguard anyway? They're making it out to seem that Kurt can't defend himself at all and he needs a group of people guarding him at school. Ugh.


Anyway loved Matthew's sexy sway number :D and Marry You. :D
Also nice seeing more of Quinn, and Sam is cute but that scene was so dumb with the promise ring. It came off as so forced and fake!:lol:

Sue; I was shocked at how well she was handling her principal responsibilities!:lol: And boy with a mother like that no wonder Sue is like she is.:lol:
It will be nice having Figgins back. I miss her funny blackmailing scenes with him.

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Yes even though I don't really care for him. You can totally feel the complete lack of Puckness.
Then again he's not the only one being ignored this season-
When oh when is Tina going to have a scene that doesn't involve her new annoying boyfriend or singing with the group??

Man-Whore will.:lol::lol::lol: Saint Kurt and Man-Whore Will the most important things they want to focus on this season.
I agree with you when they made it seem like Finn was a bad guy for not sticking up for Kurt though Finn didnt even know what was going on cause Kurt didnt even tell Finn that was so sad i was very angry.
and exactly i dont like how they made Kurt look like a weak gay guy i just dont like it NO ONE should be scrippted like that IMO.
I agree with you on Sam
and EXCATLY ! i was so SHOCKED im like :eek: shes acaully being kind of nice and mature. except for the name calling .and when i met her mother i was like "OH NOW EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE.":rotfl:

[MannaBanana]

I meant at all in this episode not at all in the seasons. They had some interactions. and oh i thought she was saying He WAS mean to Rachel on this episode. Oh.
Yea I was just saying that although he wasnt mean to her in this episode, he usually is mean to her. Even if its just rolling his eyes while she talks. Even though Rachel sticks up for him a lot, like she did in this episode. That was the point I was trying to make. Hope that clears it up a bit :)

[Embraceurside]

Yea I was just saying that although he wasnt mean to her in this episode, he usually is mean to her. Even if its just rolling his eyes while she talks. Even though Rachel sticks up for him a lot, like she did in this episode. That was the point I was trying to make. Hope that clears it up a bit :)
:D It makes sense :lol: Misunderstanding i agree not in this episode but in other episodes people are mean. Like the last episode before this one Kurt wanted to hurt her for trying to take charge of Glee Club witch i didnt agree with.

[Daddylion]

Hey... late again, but i love this episode! Even if it had a sad ending with Kurt leaving... hope he comes back soon though... also won't they need another person in the club if Kurt leaves?

Anyway Finn was a wuss in the beginning but that speech in the end was great. I had been waiting for some Finn/Kurt brotherly bonding since last year. It was definitely cute, and so was Sam/Quinn in this one. I also thought Artie/Brittany, while still a seemingly random couple, looked cute together at the wedding. And Burt and Carol was so sweet.

Also, Sue marrying herself was oddly unsurprising. I thought her wedding dress and cake was really awesome though hehe. She was really great this episode i think with the whole bullying issue... Sue's been less antagonistic this year but the way she handled the Kurt/Karofsky issue i think was great.

As for Karofsky, like i said before, i'd been wanting some Karofsky stalking Kurt, and they definitely delivered. That whole scene where he silently threatened Kurt was very effective IMO. Very, dark twisted and stalkery. I like the whole storyline, even if i didn't like that Kurt left school at the end :( Actually I kind of wished that the truth that Karofsky kissed Kurt would come out at some point.

Sucks that Puck's kinda left out again though... and i hope for less Santanna/Puck.

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Sectionals next week! Wow, has time flown...

The only negative thing I have to say is that the show hasn't built up to sectionals nearly as much as it should have. I had forgotten sectionals were coming up until the promo came up. In season 1, they were on sectionals hype for quite a few epsiodes leading up to the actual event... ah well.

It's Sectionals already??!! Wow, i didn't even realise it was coming... you're right, they totally haven't built up at all!

[Embraceurside]

Hey... late again, but i love this episode! Even if it had a sad ending with Kurt leaving... hope he comes back soon though... also won't they need another person in the club if Kurt leaves?

Anyway Finn was a wuss in the beginning but that speech in the end was great. I had been waiting for some Finn/Kurt brotherly bonding since last year. It was definitely cute, and so was Sam/Quinn in this one. I also thought Artie/Brittany, while still a seemingly random couple, looked cute together at the wedding. And Burt and Carol was so sweet.

Also, Sue marrying herself was oddly unsurprising. I thought her wedding dress and cake was really awesome though hehe. She was really great this episode i think with the whole bullying issue... Sue's been less antagonistic this year but the way she handled the Kurt/Karofsky issue i think was great.

As for Karofsky, like i said before, i'd been wanting some Karofsky stalking Kurt, and they definitely delivered. That whole scene where he silently threatened Kurt was very effective IMO. Very, dark twisted and stalkery. I like the whole storyline, even if i didn't like that Kurt left school at the end :( Actually I kind of wished that the truth that Karofsky kissed Kurt would come out at some point.

Sucks that Puck's kinda left out again though... and i hope for less Santanna/Puck.

Unfortuantly Kurt has acaully joined the other school we see him singing "Hey Soul Sister" in "Specail Education"
I am so sad though. I dont want Kurt to leave Glee club.

I agree with you in the relationships.
Sue was amazing i was so surprised she acted like an adult :lol: With the whole Kurt thing. i loved her dress. So Sue.

I dont like that Kurt is leaving cause now whats going to happen to the whole Karofsky twist.
and True with Puck

[Daddylion]

I think the show is still going a little bit overboard with its Kurt love. There are other characters on the show, but the way they write about and treat him, he's a saint and none of the other kids have any problems at all.

Is it me or is Puck slowly being written out? He barely had anything to do this week.
...which is the other thing that I'm finding weird, I'm liking some of the newer characters (like Sam and Coach Bieste) more interesting than some of the old ones.

Oh, and I was SO GLAD to not have Will being a manwhore again this week. Any non-Will episodes are now welcomed to me.


You're definitely right there... Kurt is getting more screentime than most characters lately i feel... though i do love him, other characters need some love too... but i still want to see more of him :p hehe... and while they idealise Kurt some times (I don't think i'd call him saint though, actually while they made him nicer than last year he's still flawed, i mean the Grilled Cheesus episode had him be closed off to his friends cause they were talking about god), it's better than him setting Rachel up for humiliation... i'm actually very glad that this year has been showing some nice Rachel/Kurt friendship moments. I love the Happy Days duet, and that Rachel was the one leading the 'Protect Kurt' meeting.

Anyway i think maybe the creators just know how popular Kurt is right now.

I do feel that about Puck :( we definitely need more Puck love. And the new characters are definitely getting more attention, though i think that, being new characters, they kind of need some attention in order to flesh out their characters and get people interested in them... otherwise they'd just be kinda there... that said, older characters need attention too... but this show is so full of characters, with such a large cast, and some many side characters gaining so much popularity with the fans it's really hard to please everyone and give all the characters the spotlight they deserve.

I think right now, they're responding to last year where a lot of fans complained about the lack of Kurt getting solos, and how Rachel and Finn always took the spotlight while the other cool side characters get left in the dust... and of course now that they are people are complaining that there's not enough of the main characters... i think they want to show more of each character, but there's only so much they can do with 1 hour a week.

And lol, i'd take manwh0re Will over jealous, annoying, childish Will any day.

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Unfortuantly Kurt has acaully joined the other school we see him singing "Hey Soul Sister" in "Specail Education"
I am so sad though. I dont want Kurt to leave Glee club.

I agree with you in the relationships.
Sue was amazing i was so surprised she acted like an adult :lol: With the whole Kurt thing. i loved her dress. So Sue.

I dont like that Kurt is leaving cause now whats going to happen to the whole Karofsky twist.
and True with Puck

:( :( :( well i hope Kurt comes back soon. I want him in Glee!! And i agree with you, i want to know what happens after with the whole karofsky plotline too... probably never gonna happen but i keep seeing Karofsky kidnapping Kurt and locking him in a celler somewhere everytime he comes near him now...

[Embraceurside]

You're definitely right there... Kurt is getting more screentime than most characters lately i feel... though i do love him, other characters need some love too... but i still want to see more of him :p hehe... and while they idealise Kurt, it's better than him setting Rachel up for humiliation... i'm actually very glad that this year has been showing some nice Rachel/Kurt friendship moments. I love the Happy Days duet, and that Rachel was the one leading the 'Protect Kurt' meeting.

Anyway i think maybe the creators just know how popular Kurt is right now.

I do feel that about Puck :( we definitely need more Puck love. And the new characters are definitely getting more attention, though i think that, being new characters, they kind of need some attention in order to flesh out their characters and get people interested in them... otherwise they'd just be kinda there... that said, older characters need attention too... but this show is so full of characters, with such a large cast, and some many side characters gaining so much popularity with the fans it's really hard to please everyone and give all the characters the spotlight they deserve.

And lol, i'd take manwh0re Will over jealous, annoying, childish Will any day.

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:( :( :( well i hope Kurt comes back soon. I want him in Glee!! And i agree with you, i want to know what happens after with the whole karofsky plotline too... probably never gonna happen but i keep seeing Karofsky kidnapping Kurt and locking him in a celler somewhere everytime he comes near him now...

:lol::lol: Thats funny. But cruel. I feel like Karofsky should come out but i know thats a very hard thing to do. Especailly looking at Kurt getting picked on.

[Daddylion]

But EVERY character on the show gets picked on. Not just Kurt. Now, he's the only one who got a death threat yes, but the show has quickly turned from Glee to The Kurt Hummel Show. Even the wedding became all about Kurt.


Every character gets picked on, true, but i think Kurt's the only one that's gotten himself a full time stalker with a crush (and not in a funny, Rachel/Will kind of way) who might or might not rape him, if he's messed up enough... Well i don't think that'll actually happen since this is a light show (even with the dark humour) and they probably don't want to change that, but still... My point is that the other characters might just feel that difference in the way Karofsky acts towards Kurt... it's not bullying the way THEY get bullied, and they probably sense it a lot because they were bullied regularly and know the difference between regular being an a$$hole bully, and really disturbed obsessive bullying.

That said they are focusing on Kurt a lot lately, what with his dad and then the Karofsky storyline...

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I think that was offensive when Sue didnt ask for his real name she just came up with all these other offensive names and Kurt had to choose the best one "Porcelain"

:confused: :confused::confused: It's Sue... when is she NOT offensive?... Also, i think porcelain is a cute nickname :p And it's less disturbing than 11 year old milkmaid, which is what Emma said Kurt looked like once.

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Kurts always such a jerk to Rachel, yet shes always standing up for him and helping him out! I dont understand why everybody is so mean to her and hates her so much! All she every does is help out everybody when things are going wrong in their life.

That's quite true, i felt that too in season 1, but Kurt wasn't that nice in season 1 overall i think, he set his parents up so he could live with Finn and kinda crossed the line i feel... he's very manipulative... but this season i think he's been better overalll.

Rachel, i think people aren't so nice to her, due to her personality, her need to be the center of attention all the time and how she's kind of overly honest about other people's faults in singing... Rachel is someone who lacks tack, and doesn't really know when not to say or do something... i agree it's not fair since deep down Rachel is very nice, she tried to stop Mercedes from falling for Kurt in season 1 even though she's never been nice to her, and the way she was with Quinn last year, even if she had her own motives and wanted Finn she was still rather nice to her rival. Rachel has a very sweet side, she just has a way of annoying people and pushing their buttons without meaning to... even if she does have a manipulative side as well, and a mean one, like with Sunshine... i think every character on this show has both a good side and a bad side and a lot of them are manipulative at some point as well...even the supposedly naive Finn.

That said, Kurt did stick up for Rachel once before... when Jesse egged her, Kurt said that "Rachel's one of us, we're the only ones that get to pick on her"... which can be looked at in two sides, the side where he's perfectly ok with picking on Rachel himself, or the part where he sees Rachel as very much a part of the team, and is in his own catty way, very protective of her too... I think Kurt does care about Rachel, it's not a one-side thing where Rachel's the only one helping him out here. They may not always get along, and may fight each other for the spotlight or initially for Finn, but they do care about each other.

[Daddylion]

and Sam is just doing that to be popular remember Finn said that he wont be able to become popular . So he ran to marry Quin Anyways, I hate that Quin acaully accepted didnt she learn about stupid decisions last season !!!! DANG IT ! :mad:
and how was Kurt a jerk AT ALL he was nice to Rachel. Everyone is nice to Rachel the only person who isnt it Sattana. and shes always an egotistical person thats why there sometimes they may come across mean .

Lol, i think you should your horses there... I mean it's promise ring, not an actual marriage. He might say he'd one day marry her, but they're like 17, and it might seem like the biggest thing in the world to them right now but a million things can happen between now and then... they're not actually getting married, this is just a boyfriend, doing something very sweet with his girlfriend.

Kurt was a jerk when he set Rachel up for humiliation with Finn in season 1 which he never really apologized even if Rachel let it go rather easily since they were both gunning for a guy who's already taken... and his comments did really rub me the wrong way in Wheels when he told the entire club not to vote for him in the diva-off simply because he's clearly much more popular with them than Rachel... also at Sectionals he jokingly mentioned tying Rachel up until it was over... while it was meant as a joke, his overall attitude seem to imply that if Rachel wasn't talented, no one would have any reason to tolerate her at all and him along with the other members of Glee club except Finn seems to treat Rachel as an outsider, not really including her as much of a friend due to her overbeating personality, excluding her even when they accept Santanna and Brittany and other people who once bullied them and sometimes still do (this of course is practived by more or less all the members of Glee... Kurt's just more catty about it i think... and Artie in Wheels, everyone was excluding him but he chose to only target Rachel when he fired back)... this of course i think changed later on, and he does towards the end of the season show that he sees Rachel as very much a part of the team and is protective of her too.

But no, Kurt was not always nice to Rachel, and neither were the others... the niceness is a later development.

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Totally. Honestly, I also think that when she was calling Kurt "lady" she was trying to be polite since she knows he's gay. In her own Sue kind of way of course :lol: I dont think she was trying to be offensive. Well, not really.


Lol yeah, i thought the lady and porcelain and doe eye thing was pretty tame, and actually nice compared to all the other things Sue said to everyone else.

And yeah, we're getting a lot of Kurt these days and other characters need the spotlight too... but i don't mind too much cause like i said, i like the Karofsky storyline, even if i don't particularly like Blaine.

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I totally missed this, but sorry...I agree with Amanda 100% . EVERYONE (including Finn sometimes) is mean to Rachel. I mean, what she did with Kurt on this episode and on Duets , I bet one of my arms that he hadn't done the same for her.

Yes, everyone is mean to Rachel at some point... not just Kurt... but Rachel has her own mean side too... and her own nice one, like everyone else.

And on him not doing the same for her, this isn't the same, but as i mentioned before, in Funk, Kurt was gonna go and get into a fight with Vocal Adrenaline on behalf of Rachel with the rest of the boys... considering that as Emma puts it, he 'looks like an 11 year old maid', and while he has taken a lot of bullying before we never actually see how well he punches... well, that counts for something to me... Anyway, when all is said and done, i think Kurt's protective of Rachel in his way too, as Rachel is protective of him.

[Novak Fan]

Lol, i think you should your horses there... I mean it's promise ring, not an actual marriage. He might say he'd one day marry her, but they're like 17, and it might seem like the biggest thing in the world to them right now but a million things can happen between now and then... they're not actually getting married, this is just a boyfriend, doing something very sweet with his girlfriend.



yeah, what he did was kind of cute actually, I think that at this point he knows how vulnerable Quinn is regarding dating and stuff, giving her situation last season. So the fact that he chose to make that promise and commit himself to her was in a way honorable. Though, it bothers me a bit that he did that after the whole being popular speech he had with Finn at the lockers. Don't know, but that made it look a bit less sincere for me. But we will see.

[Daddylion]

The episode was good but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how the wedding seemed to focus more on Kurt than Mr. Hummel and Finn's mom(who's name I can't even remember :o), or even Finn. Finn was basically made out to look like a horrible person because he didn't want to fight some bully for Kurt. Complete overreaction.
Why was Finn made to become Kurt's bodyguard anyway? They're making it out to seem that Kurt can't defend himself at all and he needs a group of people guarding him at school. Ugh.

I thought Finn not sticking up for Kurt was a bit cowardly... it's more the reasons why he wouldn't than the fact that he wouldn't... because he wanted to protect whatever popularity he had left, and not sticking up for someone who you've been living with for like a year, and is basically family... that's just not acceptable for me.

I dunno, maybe it's just me but i believe family needs to protect each other most of all, especially immediate family... even if they're step family...unless the step family treats you horribly or ignores you all the time of course, in which case you have no obligations to them, however if they make an effort and do become family to you, which i feel like Burt had, then yes, they are family too, and you should always try to be there for them and protect them when they need you... And it's not like Kurt and Finn don't get along... Kurt makes Finn uncomfortable, but there's no aminosity between them, before Finn realised Kurt's crush they were more or less fairly decent friends, and even with Kurt going overboard with the crush, i still don't think they have a bad relationship... one which can be enough reason for Finn not to stand up to someone who was hurting (physically or otherwise) Kurt... and as i said, it's the reasons WHY he wouldn't stand up for Kurt that bothers me.

I don't so much think Finn is obligated to fight Karofsky for Kurt, but i do think as family he should have shown himself to be more protective in some way... and Kurt wasn't the only one that the Glee club tries to protect as it's member... when Jesse egged Rachel, Kurt, Artie, Matt, Mike, Puck and Finn were gonna go beat up Jesse together (but of course Will stopped them)... and the Karofsky issue is a lot more immediate than the Jesse issue... i mean, Jesse may have egged Rachel but he wasn't likely to actually attack her.

Also, while i agree that the show is focusing too much on Kurt... not focusing more on Burt and Carol? well that's kind of to be expected i think, i mean, though side characters are getting more airtime this year, Burt and Carol are more like side side characters... and this show isn't that big on showing the parental side of things... we never even seen Rachel's dads outside of photos.



Anyway loved Matthew's sexy sway number :D and Marry You. :D
Also nice seeing more of Quinn, and Sam is cute but that scene was so dumb with the promise ring. It came off as so forced and fake!:lol:

Sue; I was shocked at how well she was handling her principal responsibilities!:lol: And boy with a mother like that no wonder Sue is like she is.:lol:
It will be nice having Figgins back. I miss her funny blackmailing scenes with him.


I agree with you there... i love Sway... Matt is so sexy, and i really do love that song. And i'm also glad to have Figgins back too, he's hilarious.

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I agree with you when they made it seem like Finn was a bad guy for not sticking up for Kurt though Finn didnt even know what was going on cause Kurt didnt even tell Finn that was so sad i was very angry.
and exactly i dont like how they made Kurt look like a weak gay guy i just dont like it NO ONE should be scrippted like that IMO.

Well like i said, Finn not sticking up for Kurt was bad because of his reasons for not doing it i think. Though you're right, Kurt didn't tell everyone everything, and other people have always been more perceptive than Finn.

Are you talking about Kurt moving schools? Cause i think that does look bad for him, but the rest of it i don't think it made him look weak... Karofsky is no longer just a bully like every other bully in school. If it was just another bully, Kurt handles it alright, he might not be able to fight off those big hulking group of guys on his own, but he holds his head high and knows that he's better than them... and he even stood up to Karofsky, told him straight on everything he thought of him, and i thought he was very strong for that, and very brave... only that resulted in... well, we all know what happened after...

But this isn't like that anymore. Kurt can't just hold his head high, act like he's better than Karofsky and shake it all off. Karofsky is not just bullying to bully, this is personal. Karofsky is probably just as likely to punch him as he is to throttle him, or sexually assault him. Kurt's probably all he thinks about now that he's kissed him and he knows his secret... Karofsky is terrified, and repressed, and violent, and he's focused on Kurt... If it was me, I'd find that scary too.

I do think it's very noble of Kurt to not tell anyone about Karofsky... i don't think it's due to fear that he doesn't, or at least not fear alone.

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yeah, what he did was kind of cute actually, I think that at this point he knows how vulnerable Quinn is regarding dating and stuff, giving her situation last season. So the fact that he chose to make that promise and commit himself to her was in a way honorable. Though, it bothers me a bit that he did that after the whole being popular speech he had with Finn at the lockers. Don't know, but that made it look a bit less sincere for me. But we will see.

Yeah, i thought so too :) hahaha, it'd be sweet if it didn't come after the popularity thing.

Maybe it's both, just because he's concerned with popularity doesn't mean he doesn't care how insecure Quinn is with relationships since the baby.

Wow... i have so much to say this episode hahaha.

[LuthorKent90]

I guess I'm the only one who didn't see Karofsky as a complete and utter nutjob who would want to kidnap Kurt and lock him in his basement? :lol:

[Embraceurside]

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:confused: :confused::confused: It's Sue... when is she NOT offensive?... Also, i think porcelain is a cute nickname :p And it's less disturbing than 11 year old milkmaid, which is what Emma said Kurt looked like once.

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:lol: True. Shes not offensive to her Sister i like the sensitive Sue sometimes but not all the time.and :rotfl: True again.

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I guess I'm the only one who didn't see Karofsky as a complete and utter nutjob who would want to kidnap Kurt and lock him in his basement? :lol:
:rotfl: Probably.

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Lol, i think you should your horses there... I mean it's promise ring, not an actual marriage. He might say he'd one day marry her, but they're like 17, and it might seem like the biggest thing in the world to them right now but a million things can happen between now and then... they're not actually getting married, this is just a boyfriend, doing something very sweet with his girlfriend.

Kurt was a jerk when he set Rachel up for humiliation with Finn in season 1 which he never really apologized even if Rachel let it go rather easily since they were both gunning for a guy who's already taken... and his comments did really rub me the wrong way in Wheels when he told the entire club not to vote for him in the diva-off simply because he's clearly much more popular with them than Rachel... also at Sectionals he jokingly mentioned tying Rachel up until it was over... while it was meant as a joke, his overall attitude seem to imply that if Rachel wasn't talented, no one would have any reason to tolerate her at all and him along with the other members of Glee club except Finn seems to treat Rachel as an outsider, not really including her as much of a friend due to her overbeating personality, excluding her even when they accept Santanna and Brittany and other people who once bullied them and sometimes still do (this of course is practived by more or less all the members of Glee... Kurt's just more catty about it i think... and Artie in Wheels, everyone was excluding him but he chose to only target Rachel when he fired back)... this of course i think changed later on, and he does towards the end of the season show that he sees Rachel as very much a part of the team and is protective of her too.

But no, Kurt was not always nice to Rachel, and neither were the others... the niceness is a later development.

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But they werent even together.:lol: He just asked her out of nowhere because Finn was like Your never going to be popular especailly since you dont have Quin [Paraphrasing thats not excatly what he said ]
Yes i agree with you . I have been agreeing with everyone that they havent been nice to rachel but it is a later development i agree. and who knows what will happen every episode they make it seem like the club dosent like her very much. i agree that if she didnt have talent they probabaly would feel like that

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Well like i said, Finn not sticking up for Kurt was bad because of his reasons for not doing it i think. Though you're right, Kurt didn't tell everyone everything, and other people have always been more perceptive than Finn.

Are you talking about Kurt moving schools? Cause i think that does look bad for him, but the rest of it i don't think it made him look weak... Karofsky is no longer just a bully like every other bully in school. If it was just another bully, Kurt handles it alright, he might not be able to fight off those big hulking group of guys on his own, but he holds his head high and knows that he's better than them... and he even stood up to Karofsky, told him straight on everything he thought of him, and i thought he was very strong for that, and very brave... only that resulted in... well, we all know what happened after...

But this isn't like that anymore. Kurt can't just hold his head high, act like he's better than Karofsky and shake it all off. Karofsky is not just bullying to bully, this is personal. Karofsky is probably just as likely to punch him as he is to throttle him, or sexually assault him. Kurt's probably all he thinks about now that he's kissed him and he knows his secret... Karofsky is terrified, and repressed, and violent, and he's focused on Kurt... If it was me, I'd find that scary too.

I do think it's very noble of Kurt to not tell anyone about Karofsky... i don't think it's due to fear that he doesn't, or at least not fear alone.

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and yes Kurt moving schools.:( I guess i was shocked at the beginning when Karosfky was picking on him but soon Kurt couldnt even fight the battle anymore till he Found Blaine and then he stuck up for himself to Karosfky and Karosfky kissed him so the football player was no longer a bully he was ...i have no word for this. I liked how Kurt didnt tell everyone in the office that Karosky was threatening to kill him if he told anyone he was gay. Kurt instead said "he was threatening to kill me if i tolf anyone...he was picking on me"
I was like that takes guts. He could have told everyone but he understood what the football player was going through.
and True. Karasfky would probably stop picking on Kurt if he wasnt so self-counsiouss and confused. Because when your confused your frusterated when your frusterated your angry and hes just taking it out on Kurt since Kurt is gay.

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[CloisShipper]

I totally missed this, but sorry...I agree with Amanda 100% . EVERYONE (including Finn sometimes) is mean to Rachel. I mean, what she did with Kurt on this episode and on Duets , I bet one of my arms that he hadn't done the same for her. Damn, no one could have done the same for her. Personally I think they are too hard on her.

I totally agree. The one thing about the show I don't love is how mean they are to Rachel especially when they go behind her back. I mean, she was so nice to Kurt in duets and then two episodes later, he's complaining about her to Mercedes behind her back. I don't think any of them have really took the time to get to know her besides from Finn, which is why I loved him for sticking up her in this episode. It's about time somebody did.

[Daddylion]

I guess I'm the only one who didn't see Karofsky as a complete and utter nutjob who would want to kidnap Kurt and lock him in his basement? :lol:

Lol, actually the basement thing was probably just my weird fanfic kink for stockholm syndrome acting up mostly. *DL is probably scarier than Karofsky in RL* :lol:

That doesn't mean Kurt or anyone else knows exactly what he's capable of or not. I mean we don't actually know much about his character... just that he's very good at scaring someone on an emotional level, beyond just beating them up... he pulls off I'm-gonna-get-you+creepy-sexual-overtones vibes very well... but then again, I managed to pull off a convincing nervous/mental break down when I was really ok and only acting that way to protect my Smallville DVDs which totally scared my boyfriend (long story), so it really could just be him acting that way cause he's terrified and he's actually not at all creepy in that way... though he's acting that way cause he's terrified either way... just depends if the creepy part is real or not.

Am I making any sense? i think i lost myself there.

[borednow]

I found the whole promise ring thing creepy only because Sam's conversation with Finn made it sound like the reason he wanted to be with Quinn was because she was popular and he would be more popular being with her. :( It's probably not true but that's what it made it sound like and going from that conversation to down on one knee made me really uncomfortable with the whole deal.

I'm very happy Kurt and Fin moved into brother love, that's been needing to happen since theatricality so I don't mind another Kurt episode to deal with that.


We definitely need more Puck though... and less Santanna/Puck. :lol:

[Novak Fan]

I totally agree. The one thing about the show I don't love is how mean they are to Rachel especially when they go behind her back. I mean, she was so nice to Kurt in duets and then two episodes later, he's complaining about her to Mercedes behind her back. I don't think any of them have really took the time to get to know her besides from Finn, which is why I loved him for sticking up her in this episode. It's about time somebody did.

Exactly. And tbh, I still don't buy the whole "defending Rachel's honor" after Jesse egged her. It seemed too hipocrital to me. Also, I keep thinking that if she has had their support or understanding with the whole Sunshine thing, she hadn't acted the way she did. She tried to talk to Mercedes and Kurt but they didn't listen to her.

I still don't like Finchel tbh :lol: but, I think I had come to terms with them. Specially Finn. I think that my problem with him was that they tried to sell him like this reaaally nice, naive guy when clearly he isn't. I mean, he is, but not completely. Example, this last episode. He isn't so honorable after all. But I like that. It shows that the character have some deep and he isn't just black and white. Too nice sometimes is boring lol

I was glad that he defended Rachel and I didn't mind (that much :p)when he said something about her body (again). But seriously...he didn't learn anything about the BabyGate? Finn, lying is bad. Bad. He has to tell Rachel about Santana before she founds out from others :(

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That doesn't mean Kurt or anyone else knows exactly what he's capable of or not. I mean we don't actually know much about his character... just that he's very good at scaring someone on an emotional level, beyond just beating them up... he pulls off I'm-gonna-get-you+creepy-sexual-overtones vibes very well... but then again, I managed to pull off a convincing nervous/mental break down when I was really ok and only acting that way to protect my Smallville DVDs which totally scared my boyfriend (long story), so it really could just be him acting that way cause he's terrified and he's actually not at all creepy in that way... though he's acting that way cause he's terrified either way... just depends if the creepy part is real or not.

Am I making any sense? i think i lost myself there.

lol yeah, you are.

And well, I want to think that he is just scared and he acts the wrong way. I mean, the expression he had after he kissed Kurt was one of desperation and fear. Sometimes you dont' have to come from a messed up family to hide yourself behind bad behaviour. I mean, his dad looked like a nice guy but again, the fear to disappointment can be the worse. Specially with people of Karosfky's age.
I feel like Im now the one not making sense :lol:

[Daddylion]

Exactly. And tbh, I still don't buy the whole "defending Rachel's honor" after Jesse egged her. It seemed too hipocrital to me. Also, I keep thinking that if she has had their support or understanding with the whole Sunshine thing, she hadn't acted the way she did. She tried to talk to Mercedes and Kurt but they didn't listen to her.

I thought the whole defending Rachel thing wasn't out of character... hypocritical maybe but I think it'd be weird if they didn't feel the need to defend Rachel after what happened. They might not notice themselves being mean to her, but that doesn't mean they don't care about her at all and won't notice or care when someone else is mean to her. (A lot of people are like that IMO, they just never realise it, which is the whole point) And i think, even if they exclude her in the friendship part quite a bit, they still see her as essentially one of them. Like you said, it's not black and white, and that goes for how they feel and treat each other too. Basically i think they see her as one of them, just an annoying one they don't want to associate with, but at the same time if anything really bad happened to Rachel, i think they would all be very sad just the same and not just glad the annoying one is gone.

And i think that's why they got pi$$ed off and defended Rachel with Jesse... it's a bit like a love-hate relationship, but as a group dynamic instead of just two people... and also just on the side of the group feeling it, not Rachel.

And on the Sunshine issue, Kurt and Mercedes probably didn't listen because Rachel wasn't being honest, and wasn't covering it up very well, she made it about them when it was transparent that it was about her, only she didn't show how it was about her and them, not about her and her stardom... of course they wouldn't listen there.

And it seemed like the group actually forgave her easily enough since they never talked about Sunshine again... at least for now.



And well, I want to think that he is just scared and he acts the wrong way. I mean, the expression he had after he kissed Kurt was one of desperation and fear. Sometimes you dont' have to come from a messed up family to hide yourself behind bad behaviour. I mean, his dad looked like a nice guy but again, the fear to disappointment can be the worse. Specially with people of Karosfky's age.
I feel like Im now the one not making sense :lol:

Nah, you make sense.

[Welling_is_pretty]

I think the show is still going a little bit overboard with its Kurt love.
My favorite character is Kurt and while I am loving him really get a big storyline this year I have admit even I am ready to overdose. And what was up with his parents and even Finn making the wedding all about Kurt? I sat there going "wait, what?"


Is it me or is Puck slowly being written out?
Mark Salling just recorded a new album by himself (I forget the name) and had to be written out of those few episodes to finish it. My guess is he's busy promoting said album and doing press for it and hence is less available in recent times. And frankly (and I realize this is a minority opinion) I would be very happy if Puck were written out. I find him annoying and don't understand why every girl in the school falls for him. :confused

So Kurt and Finn are now officially bros (and did anyone else think the wedding kinda came out of left field? They've only been dating for how long?). Carol Burnett felt wasted (I am getting seriously sick of the stunt casting, actually. I just watched Season 1 of Glee and it was so nice for the focus not to be on that week's "special guest". Unless it's Jonathan Groff returning as Jesse. But that's not really stunt casting. :D ;) ).

Oh and Burt is officially the best father on TV. Mike O'Malley is fantastic!

[Daddylion]

Carol and Burt seemed to have been dating for a year or so... maybe a bit less than that... I'm not completely sure but i think time goes a bit differently in Glee... like they only showed the peroid before till after Regionals, and then skip to next year, so maybe some time had gone by that we didn't see on the show? Again, i'm not completely sure.

[Iluvgreen]

Finn said "Puckleberry." That's my favorite part. :D

[kristintaps]

Seeing Carol Burnett sing.... I was in heaven! She was fab. The wedding was really touching and so was the reception. Good ep for me.

[CloisShipper]

Exactly. And tbh, I still don't buy the whole "defending Rachel's honor" after Jesse egged her. It seemed too hipocrital to me. Also, I keep thinking that if she has had their support or understanding with the whole Sunshine thing, she hadn't acted the way she did. She tried to talk to Mercedes and Kurt but they didn't listen to her.

I still don't like Finchel tbh :lol: but, I think I had come to terms with them. Specially Finn. I think that my problem with him was that they tried to sell him like this reaaally nice, naive guy when clearly he isn't. I mean, he is, but not completely. Example, this last episode. He isn't so honorable after all. But I like that. It shows that the character have some deep and he isn't just black and white. Too nice sometimes is boring lol



Oh yeah, I didn't like when they were going to defend Rachel and Kurt ruined it even more by saying "we're the only ones who get to humilate Rachel". I agree, if they acted more as friends towards her than I do think the whole Sunshine fiasco may not have happened or gone as badly as it did. They may have been able to talk sense into her if they even tried.

Lol, I can understand why you don't like Finn or Finchel much, I just do for some reason, I think he and Rachel are adorable and they're my favourite characters :). I do agree that Finn can be a real jerk sometimes, especially during season 1 but I think that I like him and I like Rachel so much because they are not being sold as perfect, saint like characters who can do nothing wrong. I like that they have depth too. And I agree, the lying is bad. Very bad. I can see it all blowing up in his face very soon :(.

[KSiteTV]

Oh and Burt is officially the best father on TV. Mike O'Malley is fantastic!

Definitely agree on this. Mike O'Malley does a great job of being supportive while still having some flaws of his own that he admits to. If GLEE were nominated in "Drama" instead of "Comedy" he would have deserved an Emmy for his work.

Burt is one of the few characters on GLEE these days who doesn't ever annoy me. A lot of that is due to the performance of Mr. O'Malley.

[Embraceurside]

Definitely agree on this. Mike O'Malley does a great job of being supportive while still having some flaws of his own that he admits to. If GLEE were nominated in "Drama" instead of "Comedy" he would have deserved an Emmy for his work.

Burt is one of the few characters on GLEE these days who doesn't ever annoy me. A lot of that is due to the performance of Mr. O'Malley.
:eek::eek: Why is it under comedy ??? :( Whats so FUNNY about it ? Im offended now.

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Finn said "Puckleberry." That's my favorite part. :D
:rotfl: OH yeah he was saying all these ships. i was like see they put Kryptonsite into this :lol:

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Seeing Carol Burnett sing.... I was in heaven! She was fab. The wedding was really touching and so was the reception. Good ep for me.
IMO her dynamics were bad at the beginning and i was about to skip through it then it got intresting when she hit that high note i said :eek: I was so wrong about her at the beginning. :lol:

[LuthorKent90]

Mark Salling just recorded a new album by himself (I forget the name) and had to be written out of those few episodes to finish it. My guess is he's busy promoting said album and doing press for it and hence is less available in recent times. And frankly (and I realize this is a minority opinion) I would be very happy if Puck were written out. I find him annoying and don't understand why every girl in the school falls for him. :confused

So Kurt and Finn are now officially bros (and did anyone else think the wedding kinda came out of left field? They've only been dating for how long?). Carol Burnett felt wasted (I am getting seriously sick of the stunt casting, actually. I just watched Season 1 of Glee and it was so nice for the focus not to be on that week's "special guest". Unless it's Jonathan Groff returning as Jesse. But that's not really stunt casting. :D ;) ).

Oh and Burt is officially the best father on TV. Mike O'Malley is fantastic!

Really? It's a small little album. The album cover looked super cheap, fan made.
It's not like he's going out of the country or is or tour or something. :lol:
I'm not feeling Puck so much this time around, so I don't really care if he's missing a few episodes but at least give us a good enough reason for his absence.
And what was with the spoiler of him coming back "in a huge way". :confused:

Stunt casting- same here. It's not like this is the 5th season of the series where they're starting to run out of idea so they bring in guest star after guest star.

[Novak Fan]

Really? It's a small little album. The album cover looked super cheap, fan made.
It's not like he's going out of the country or is or tour or something. :lol:
I'm not feeling Puck so much this time around, so I don't really care if he's missing a few episodes but at least give us a good enough reason for his absence.
And what was with the spoiler of him coming back "in a huge way". :confused:


But he was on juvi (sp?) :p

About the cover I agree :lol: even his fans have said that they should have worked better on that one. I'm curious to hear some of his songs though.

And I don't find Puck annoying really but I also feel that I could do just fine without him on the show.

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So Kurt and Finn are now officially bros (and did anyone else think the wedding kinda came out of left field? They've only been dating for how long?). Carol Burnett felt wasted (I am getting seriously sick of the stunt casting, actually. I just watched Season 1 of Glee and it was so nice for the focus not to be on that week's "special guest". Unless it's Jonathan Groff returning as Jesse. But that's not really stunt casting. :D ;) ).


TBH I don't know anything about Carol Burnett *is ashame* everyone here seems to know her. But yeah, too much guest starts I guess. I liked Gwyneth Paltrow though, just because she looked like she really was having fun. And the Singin' in the rain /Umbrella performance was great.


Oh and Burt is officially the best father on TV. Mike O'Malley is fantastic!

Totally. I just watched Eat, Pray, Love this weekend (for those that doesn't know, the movie directed by Ryan Murphy with Julia Roberts) and Mike was there :D I totally squee like a fangirl when I saw him. Minor character, but still.

[Embraceurside]

Someone in another thread reminded me of the song Finn sang to Rachel and you know i think itss sad. One episode there all in love now...look what happened in 'Specail Education' sigh *

[borednow]

It was bound to happen... they are, to quote the producers, "the core couple". There is no way they are getting a smooth ride.

[Daddylion]

Word...

[borednow]

Sad truth of Television. I'm actually pleasantly surprised they got half a season run out of it...

[Welling_is_pretty]

Burt is one of the few characters on GLEE these days who doesn't ever annoy me. A lot of that is due to the performance of Mr. O'Malley.
I hadn't thought of it that way but you're right.


Really? It's a small little album. The album cover looked super cheap, fan made.
But it's getting a lot of fanfare because he's on Glee. (haven't seen the album cover so I can't comment on that.) I know he did some press and interviews for it, mostly radio, I believe.


TBH I don't know anything about Carol Burnett *is ashame* everyone here seems to know her.
Well, she was from a 'certain generation'. She hasn't been on tv or movies or anything much for the younger set. She's a comedienne best known for her variety shows where she would sing and put on skits. The most famous of which was a parody of "Gone with the Wind" where her character made a dress out of curtains, curtain rods and all.

[Embraceurside]

It was bound to happen... they are, to quote the producers, "the core couple". There is no way they are getting a smooth ride.
True. No core couple ever have it easy.

[borednow]

Yup whether you like the couple or not the show will drive them through the ups and downs as fast as possible to keep it "interesting"

[Embraceurside]

^^
Yep !

[ginnyfan]

Finally saw this ep. Meh.

I was really disappointed in the dynamic between Sue and her mother. I mean it's Carol Burnett. How did they manage to make it so... meh. Huge disappointment. I don't know it if was the writing, the acting or what. I was happy to see Carol Burnett but I feel that she was wasted in the role. :(

The nazi hunting stuff was not at all funny and it was distasteful.

I adore Kurt but... they went way overboard on the Kurt love. I fast forwarded Finn's speech to Kurt at the wedding. Seriously? I mean I would have loved it between Finn and Kurt privately but why did it have to take center stage at the wedding? It was just ... annoying. I guess it's because, as their parents said, they are four people becoming a family but still... rubbed me the wrong way.

I don't get why Finn didn't want to beat up the kid who was picking on Kurt. I didn't understand it from a character POV. In other words it seemed out of character, regressive even. Then I didn't get why all the other characters were so mad at Finn. Then I didn't get ... I just DIDN'T GET IT. Something was off, contrived... something.

Burt and Finn's mom getting married made me SO HAPPY! I loved the glee song for the wedding march and all the dancing down the aisle. That was the highlight of this episode for me.

Because I've seen the Lifetime movie "I Me Wed" Sue marrying herself was not... as novel or funny as it could have been. Also, her wedding suffered b/c of the disappointment I felt about the Sue/mom dynamic.

By the end of the episode I was really warming up to Sam/Quinn. Might start shipping them... I dunno.

Creepy stalker kid just keeps on getting creepier. I was SO happy when he got expelled. Now that he's back, I don't blame Kurt for leaving. But I how will Kurt bare wearing a school uniform? We'll see.

[Daddylion]

I've seen I Me Wed too... and yeah, i agree on the marrying herself stuff.

I think the way Karofsky's being written is a bit... i mean the first kiss it felt like he was genuinely hurt when Kurt rejected him, i thought the actor did a really great job with that scene and the episode overall... but somehow he became creepy stalker guy and maybe it's just an act, i dunno... but i really preffered the karofsky in episode 6 and hope they show more of him than just the creep.

[ginnyfan]

You're right Ry, there was some vulnerability to the creepy kid when he first kissed Kurt. But after that they really upped the creepy factor. Maybe we will see more dimensions of who that kid is as time goes on. I'm so behind though. I haven't even seen the Christmas episode yet. :)

[Embraceurside]

^^ You hacent seen the Christmas one! Your life will change forever. Ha Bbut Furt was pretty amazing/ "Puckelberry" and :) now a new one "Furt" ha i felt like the writers really do listen to ships.

[borednow]

I've seen I Me Wed too... and yeah, i agree on the marrying herself stuff.

I think the way Karofsky's being written is a bit... i mean the first kiss it felt like he was genuinely hurt when Kurt rejected him, i thought the actor did a really great job with that scene and the episode overall... but somehow he became creepy stalker guy and maybe it's just an act, i dunno... but i really preffered the karofsky in episode 6 and hope they show more of him than just the creep.

I agree... the kiss was really sad and vulnerable, then they just slammed strong walls back up. :( I think his dad seems really interesting too...