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Lambshank

03-23-2005, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by angelfire east
I have a question, I've been watching BtVS for a little which now, I watch the older episodes (I started wating when the episode before Oz left), I watch two episodes every weekend and then at lanch time everyday watch newer episodes, (when Buffy is fighting the First, I think it's near the end of the show). Any way I know that's a messed up way to find to watch the show but I end up messing most of the episodes at lunch time due to calving and other cow related jobs.

Any way my question is What's Buffy's deal?

I've been watching the begining of Angel when Buffy came to L.A and had her one day of happiness before they lost it and she forgot about it. So I know she has stong feelings for Angel, but Today on BtVS (epsidoes where she fighting the First) she and Spike where really lovey with each other, he told her that just holding her and watching her sleep was the best night he even had, and she said "same here" and then at the end of the episode Angel shows up and they kiss passionly as poor Spike watchs in the shadows and the First says "what a b***h!" to him. It was like she just forgot about Spike the minute Angel walked into the room.

Does she love Angel more? Or does she just get lose in her passion for Angel but still really loves Spike. I know they both love her and want to be with her. And I was just wondering what Buffy wants? Who she loves more? Wants to be with more, if she could be with one?

Thanks for any answers you can give me. Sorry if what I had to say is comfusing.

We can't really ever understand how Buffy's mind really works, but I always stand by the opinion she loved Angel more than anyone, or you could say Angel was her only 'true' love.

I mean, her relationship with Riley ended but she DID try to salvage it, she was just to late. Spike was just sex to start with, but after a while it did seem that some feelings grew, I liked the final line between them though. 'I love you', 'No you don't, but thanks for saying it'. It sums up that she never really LOVED him, but she did have some sort of feelings.

It seems whenever Angel comes along everything else is put aside, sure she will be in other relationships, and I guess it is possible to love other people, but her final words with Angel sum up her true feelings in a way. She can't be with him right now, not until she has reached a certain stage in her life and she is ready. Same with Angel to, he fell in love with Cordelia, but in the end I don't think either of them can move on completely, I always liked to think they would end up with eachother one day, but now the show is over it's all in our minds to guess if they ever do get back together.

I think based on what both of them have said, in the end it makes sense that they would be with eachother again one day, but who knows. They love eachother eternally, but sadly it seems as if there are always things keeping them from being together. I don't think it matters to much whether they see eachother, sleep with eachother, or are in a relationship, I think it is pretty clear that they love eachother more than any other relationships they have been in.

Summers

03-23-2005, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by angelfire east

I've been watching the begining of Angel when Buffy came to L.A and had her one day of happiness before they lost it and she forgot about it. So I know she has stong feelings for Angel, but Today on BtVS (epsidoes where she fighting the First) she and Spike where really lovey with each other, he told her that just holding her and watching her sleep was the best night he even had, and she said "same here" and then at the end of the episode Angel shows up and they kiss passionly as poor Spike watchs in the shadows and the First says "what a b***h!" to him. It was like she just forgot about Spike the minute Angel walked into the room.

Does she love Angel more? Or does she just get lose in her passion for Angel but still really loves Spike. I know they both love her and want to be with her. And I was just wondering what Buffy wants? Who she loves more? Wants to be with more, if she could be with one?

Thanks for any answers you can give me. Sorry if what I had to say is comfusing.

Well, I the questions you asked actually has never been answered. Its interpretative to the viewer. They never answered this question. I agree with Greenshady you need to watch the entire series. Doing that will allow you to understand her character more, and you can come to your own conclusion.

Basically there is a reason why she was with Spike. In season five her mom died from natural causes, Riley left and Buffy did blame herself for it, and her sister was the all powerful key she swore to protect. In the end Buffy died as a scarfice for her sister. She died for her and the world. The Scoobies couldnt take her gone, so Willow used to dark magic and brought her back. However, it was a catalyst for Buffy's depression. Buffy was brought back to life in her own coffin, and she had to dig herself out of. She saw her grave, and she thought she was brought to hell. Buffy tells Spike later that she wasnt in hell like the Scoobies thought she was, but in heaven. She was comforted, warm, safe, and with her mother :(. The Scoobies took her away from that. Thus beginning her depression and numbness with the world.

Spike was there for Buffy, but Spike found out that his chip no longer works on Buffy. He was basically a soulless vampire that can hurt again. With Buffy's depression and Spike's revelation they began a dark, sexual, destructive relationship. Buffy was bad to Spike. Spike was bad to Buffy. Spike saw the very worse of Buffy whereas Angel never did. However, Spike was there for her when the Scoobies were not because they didnt want to be reminded that they messed up by bringing her back. Spike went to get his soul for her as compared to Angel being cursed with one. In the last season, Buffy was very uneasy with Spike. It took several episodes to feel comfortable with him. The First basically manlipulated everyone to turn away from Buffy, but Spike never did. The Scoobies tried to tell Buffy Spike shouldnt be trusted, but Buffy didnt listen to them. The whole entire last season Buffy and Spike they were building their trust between each other. Their trust is what enabled them to win in the last episode.

With the kiss to Angel. You come with your interpretation. I see as she hasnt seen him in over a year, and there he pops up. Who wouldnt kiss him. Angel represented Buffy at another in her life. Just Spike represents represented another time in Buffy's life. In Chosen we saw her kiss Angel, and cuddle with Spike. Notice how she didnt choose, but that both our in her heart. Angelfire, I would recommend you see all the series so you can see her relationship with Angel and the differences with the relationship Spike. Those questions you ask you make your own conclusion.

I see it that I rather have her with Spike. He seen the worse and best in Buffy whereas Angel never has. And he still loves her.

Snake_Corda

03-23-2005, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Summers
Well, I the questions you asked actually has never been answered. Its interpretative to the viewer. They never answered this question. I agree with Greenshady you need to watch the entire series. Doing that will allow you to understand her character more, and you can come to your own conclusion.

Basically there is a reason why she was with Spike. In season five her mom died from natural causes, Riley left and Buffy did blame herself for it, and her sister was the all powerful key she swore to protect. In the end Buffy died as a scarfice for her sister. She died for her and the world. The Scoobies couldnt take her gone, so Willow used to dark magic and brought her back. However, it was a catalyst for Buffy's depression. Buffy was brought back to life in her own coffin, and she had to dig herself out of. She saw her grave, and she thought she was brought to hell. Buffy tells Spike later that she wasnt in hell like the Scoobies thought she was, but in heaven. She was comforted, warm, safe, and with her mother :(. The Scoobies took her away from that. Thus beginning her depression and numbness with the world.

Spike was there for Buffy, but Spike found out that his chip no longer works on Buffy. He was basically a soulless vampire that can hurt again. With Buffy's depression and Spike's revelation they began a dark, sexual, destructive relationship. Buffy was bad to Spike. Spike was bad to Buffy. Spike saw the very worse of Buffy whereas Angel never did. However, Spike was there for her when the Scoobies were not because they didnt want to be reminded that they messed up by bringing her back. Spike went to get his soul for her as compared to Angel being cursed with one. In the last season, Buffy was very uneasy with Spike. It took several episodes to feel comfortable with him. The First basically manlipulated everyone to turn away from Buffy, but Spike never did. The Scoobies tried to tell Buffy Spike shouldnt be trusted, but Buffy didnt listen to them. The whole entire last season Buffy and Spike they were building their trust between each other. Their trust is what enabled them to win in the last episode.

With the kiss to Angel. You come with your interpretation. I see as she hasnt seen him in over a year, and there he pops up. Who wouldnt kiss him. Angel represented Buffy at another in her life. Just Spike represents represented another time in Buffy's life. In Chosen we saw her kiss Angel, and cuddle with Spike. Notice how she didnt choose, but that both our in her heart. Angelfire, I would recommend you see all the series so you can see her relationship with Angel and the differences with the relationship Spike. Those questions you ask you make your own conclusion.

I see it that I rather have her with Spike. He seen the worse and best in Buffy whereas Angel never has. And he still loves her.

I agree totally Summers. The fact that Spike potentially sacrificed his unlife to win a soul for Buffy was something I believe Angelus would never have done...no matter how long he could have known her. He gave of himself to make himself better for her. Their relationship wouldn't ever be considered Harlequin romance but it contained a love that was worth giving up everything for.

Summers

03-23-2005, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Snake_Corda
I agree totally Summers. The fact that Spike potentially sacrificed his unlife to win a soul for Buffy was something I believe Angelus would never have done...no matter how long he could have known her. He gave of himself to make himself better for her. Their relationship wouldn't ever be considered Harlequin romance but it contained a love that was worth giving up everything for.

Yea, that's how I see. Angelus wasnt like William the Bloody. They were very different on how they view things in as soulless vampires. That's one of the reasons why I love Spike more in that aspect. I do love Angelus as a villian as compared to Spike though. To me Buffy/Angel was like the Romeo and Juliet of the two series, and Spike/Buffy were basically two relationships. The destructive, and at time unspoken relationships people in our society have....this was season 6. In the last season they represented the trust, non-physical relationship that was very mature as compared to Buffy/Angel. They are two completely different relationships. Spike grew with Buffy, and Buffy also grew as a person too. To even acknowledge the fact of her dark side is a great leap. In season 3 she was in denial of it, and now she cant no longer deny it. Its part of her that was the slayer. The slayerness really effects a girl...I mean look at Nikki Wood.

angelfire east

03-23-2005, 09:36 AM

Thanks guys:) I can't wait to watch the whole series, and see for myself. Right now I'm thinking she more into Angel, but I want her to be with Spike more because of a few reasons, one I they they go better together and I think Spike really does love her more then Angel. He went and got a soul for her, the best night of his life was just being with her, not having sex.

I haven't gotten that far in Angel yet:eek: I can't wait to see how that plays out, and how they get together in the first place, because right now, in season 1 I can't see it happening.

Summers

03-23-2005, 10:00 AM

lol what's great there is no right or wrong to your conclusions Angelfire. On this topic Joss and the writers purposely made it that way for the viewers to come to their own conclusions. That's why it was never resolved on Angel Season 5.

Once see BtVS S1-7, and Angel 1-5 you can go all out. You can come to your own conclusions from the facial expressions to the events. One facial expression that many people bring up(including me) was the look Spike has when he first see's Buffy dancing in the Bronze in season 2. Many people think Spuffy began right at that instance without Buffy even knowing it.

Snake_Corda

03-23-2005, 10:47 AM

I'd agree with Spuffy starting then in Season 2 without her knowing it...because Snuffy (Snake/Buffy) started episode 1/season 1 without her knowing it :P.

angelfire east

03-23-2005, 11:46 AM

Spuffy and Snuffy both sound funny, poor Buffy everybody goes your names really Buffy?!? I love how they show people going kind of "what?!" when they hear her name, both when Oz was still around and when Buffy found out what that tool she had was to be used to fight the first. IT's like a joke that never gets old. After 7 season's is the joke old to you guys?

Summers

03-23-2005, 12:30 PM

kidding me....no. I couldnt stop laughing when the Guardian asked her name, and when Buffy tells her its "Buffy"..the Guardian replies 'No really". I still cant get of enough of that joke. There are many continuous jokes they bring up. You'll hear the joke again by Spike in season 4 about how unclassy the name "Buffy" was. Or Willow "arent you naturally buff Buff" lol. I still think its funny because its such an unusual name.

Its funny when they put the Faith/Buffy on the Net it turns to Fuffy :lol:

Originally posted by Snake_Corda
I'd agree with Spuffy starting then in Season 2 without her knowing it...because Snuffy (Snake/Buffy) started episode 1/season 1 without her knowing it :P.

:roftl: aw, mine was Xander and Angel in season :D. Spike had that predatory look going on when he first saw her. Now his facial expression to Buffy in the last season was very soft, gentle, and sweet.....aw I just love him :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-23-2005, 12:30 PM

Updates :D.

David and his puppetfriend lol. Summers lol.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19844

More than 50 minutes Wizard World, Joss Whedon!!!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19860

Eliza Dushku at Fashion Week part two

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19847

Tru Calling returns to FOX

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19880

Cool Money : Caps of James. I have to watch this :D.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19872

Summers

03-23-2005, 12:39 PM

Thanks, Buzz.

I posted the Tru Calling one in the Tru thread. V-Man and Spiked should be very happy on that news :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-23-2005, 12:43 PM

Your welcome :D.

I really like Tru calling, Im glad its coming back :).

Summers

03-23-2005, 12:49 PM

They should be airing the already taped 6 episodes. Its going to be weird seeing a Christmas episode in the middle of spring lol.

Read now the transcript of a very interesting interview that was published earlier in german papers! Read what Sarah told about her movies "The Grudge", "Southland Tales" and acting in general!
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19854

Spiked

03-23-2005, 12:51 PM

WHAT??! Tru Calling is returning! *gasps* I haven't read the article, but I like the title! :D

SPIKE MOVIE NEWS FROM JOSS! Thanks to tvguide.com:

Question: Are we getting any closer to a Spike movie? — Heather

Ausiello: Based on my conversations with both Whedon and WB entertainment president David Janollari last Thursday, it certainly sounds like we are. When I asked Janollari if he had given any further thought to the Spike telepic I pitched him at press tour in January, he said, "I have given it more thought since you brought it up. It's certainly something that I continue to get many fan letters and e-mails about, and it's something that we discuss a lot around here. But no decision has been made." Well, literally 15 minutes after I hung up with Janollari, Whedon called to weigh in on a William the Bloody revival. "I'm really for it, but I have never really spoken to David Janollari," he said. "I occasionally would bring it up with [execs at 20th Century] Fox, and they'd be like, 'Yeah, that would be cool.' And I'm like, 'Who do we need to talk to?' And then nothing has really happened. I've been really busy in post [-production] on Serenity and haven't been able to get the wheels turning, but I definitely intend to investigate it." When I relayed to him that Janollari had just told me that he was open to the idea, Whedon responded, "Well, that's something that I hope to get a chance to pursue." And what about his Wonder Woman commitment? Wouldn't that further delay things? "[Spike] is not necessarily something that I would write and direct myself," he suggested. "I have a lot of brilliant friends who worked with me for many years who might be able to take the helm — somebody who both James [Marsters] and I would trust." Whedon also revealed that the Spike pic would not be a prequel, thereby alleviating the age-related concerns Marsters recently expressed in Ask Ausiello. "For me, Spike is a very contemporary guy," he said. "It's sort of what distinguished him from Angel." So let me get this straight: Not only did I pitch this movie to Janollari, but I secured the participation of its star and creator. If that's not enough to land me a producing credit, then something's wrong with the system.

I think this thing is about to start rolling. I would of liked Joss to write the movie (he'll be involved in Wonder Woman), but like Joss said there are a lot of talented writers in the Buffyverse.

Wow, lot's of great news today!

BuZzArD 8012

03-23-2005, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Summers
They should be airing the already taped 6 episodes. Its going to be weird seeing a Christmas episode in the middle of spring lol.

Read now the transcript of a very interesting interview that was published earlier in german papers! Read what Sarah told about her movies "The Grudge", "Southland Tales" and acting in general!
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=19854

lol, yea. Thx for that summers :D .

I hope they do make a Spike movie Spiked :) .

Summers

03-23-2005, 12:59 PM

Awesome. He has many writers to use from Doug Petrie to Marti Noxon. I trust every one of them as long as Joss approves the storyline of the movie first lol.

I'm going to copy and past that to the Angel thread. Not all Angel fans go back and forth with these shows lol.

thanks, Spiked.

BuZzArD 8012

03-23-2005, 01:01 PM

lol exactly :D.

Summers

03-23-2005, 01:03 PM

K, we know its not a prequel. At least we know it must take place either after Not Fade Away or perhaps some other time we didnt see Spike on the series. Like the summer when he got his soul...hmm

Spiked

03-23-2005, 01:04 PM

Anytime! I hope that Tru Calling does so well in season two that FOX signs for a third season. That would be great! *wishful thinking*

Summers

03-23-2005, 01:16 PM

I thought the same thing. It wouldnt be the first time. I mean look at what happened to the Family Guy.

BuZzArD 8012

03-23-2005, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Spiked
Anytime! I hope that Tru Calling does so well in season two that FOX signs for a third season. That would be great! *wishful thinking*

It might happen Spiked :) .

Snake_Corda

03-23-2005, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Summers

:roftl: aw, mine was Xander and Angel in season :D. Spike had that predatory look going on when he first saw her. Now his facial expression to Buffy in the last season was very soft, gentle, and sweet.....aw I just love him :D.

His face was very sweet and gentle torward Buffy in the last season. Such a bad ass :D.

I can only pray for this Spike film. I can' t wait :D

BuZzArD 8012

03-23-2005, 02:19 PM

Me neither Snake :D.

angelfire east

03-23-2005, 05:44 PM

I only saw the ending for the last episode of Buffy today (stupid cows:mad: ) anyway I didn't see Sunnydale being destoryed coming. I'm sad that girl died, Xander's ex. She was funny. I missed how she died, but The guy said she died to save him:). I wish I could watch the episode again. Was the begining really good? Poor Spike, guess that's how he became a grost, I felt bad for him when she said she loved him, and he said 'No you don't, but thanks for saying it'. Poor guy, I love Spike he's so cool.

greenshady

03-23-2005, 06:25 PM

Are they bringing Tru Calling back? Or are they just airing the 6 episodes that were never put on air? I never started watching it, because it went off air. But, if they're bringing it back, I want to watch it.

Ooops! I missed a whole page on the thread.

I guess they're just reairing Season 2's episodes.

SuperSlayer

03-23-2005, 07:38 PM

Yay! David and the wee little puppet man! So adorable. :D

BuZzArD 8012

03-24-2005, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by greenshady
Are they bringing Tru Calling back? Or are they just airing the 6 episodes that were never put on air? I never started watching it, because it went off air. But, if they're bringing it back, I want to watch it.

Ooops! I missed a whole page on the thread.

I guess they're just reairing Season 2's episodes.

I believe Tru calling is coming back. For the season that viewers did not see yet. But we still don't know if another season will come on after season 2 is done.

Kal's Better Half

03-24-2005, 05:11 AM

Yes they are bringing Tru Calling back for 6 episodes of what was going to be there second season, but after that the show is gone completely.

BuZzArD 8012

03-24-2005, 05:13 AM

I know it lol.

Summers

03-24-2005, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by angelfire east
I only saw the ending for the last episode of Buffy today (stupid cows:mad: ) anyway I didn't see Sunnydale being destoryed coming. I'm sad that girl died, Xander's ex. She was funny. I missed how she died, but The guy said she died to save him:). I wish I could watch the episode again. Was the begining really good? Poor Spike, guess that's how he became a grost, I felt bad for him when she said she loved him, and he said 'No you don't, but thanks for saying it'. Poor guy, I love Spike he's so cool.

Actually in the series finale commentary of Chosen the creator said when Buffy said "I love you" she meant it. And when Spike said "No you dont, but thanks for saying it" was his way of saying "I love you too". That is probably my favorite part of the commentary. But you only saw the ending :(...bummer.

Did you see all the potential slayers become slayers? You know the Chosen speech Buffy says that every girl can be a slayer as long as they choose to be. One of the primary themes of the show.

In the beginning its really cool. Caleb knocks out Angel, and then its just Caleb and Buffy duking it out. His eyes are running black liguid. They do a pretty fight, and in the end Buffy uses the scythe to kill Caleb. Let's just she uses her weapon to hurt Caleb his manly area before actually killing him lol.

Angel and her have a conversation about Spike, and her feelings toward him. She says that he is in her heart, but that she isnt really ready for a committment. She says that I need to concentrate on being comfortable with Buffy first. She uses this cute Cookie Dough analogy lol.

Dawn returns with Xander, and her and Buffy have cute sister thing. Which leads to Dawn staying. Spike confronts Buffy about Angel, but in the end of the conversations she gives him the amulet that is only to be wore by a champion. She gives to him acknowledging that she sees him as a champion :D. Later that night The First finally visits Buffy this season. Trying to make her doubt herself. First it took the form of Caleb, then lastly to Buffy saying the only power you have is when you are alive. "You know the drill into every generation a slayer is she alone will face the forces of darkness". That line is significant for the slayer mythology. The First says "alone" how'll you live and die, and that gives Buffy the idea every potential slayer will turn into a slayer. Hence slayer army vs. ubervamps.

So now you can start from the beginning of series with "Welcome To The Hellmouth" Angelfire :D.

Originally posted by Kal's Better Half
Yes they are bringing Tru Calling back for 6 episodes of what was going to be there second season, but after that the show is gone completely.

I dont know. There is wishful thinking that it might return again. You never know.

angelfire east

03-24-2005, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Summers
Actually in the series finale commentary of Chosen the creator said when Buffy said "I love you" she meant it. And when Spike said "No you dont, but thanks for saying it" was his way of saying "I love you too". That is probably my favorite part of the commentary. But you only saw the ending :(...bummer.

Did you see all the potential slayers become slayers? You know the Chosen speech Buffy says that every girl can be a slayer as long as they choose to be. One of the primary themes of the show.

In the beginning its really cool. Caleb knocks out Angel, and then its just Caleb and Buffy duking it out. His eyes are running black liguid. They do a pretty fight, and in the end Buffy uses the scythe to kill Caleb. Let's just she uses her weapon to hurt Caleb his manly area before actually killing him lol.

Angel and her have a conversation about Spike, and her feelings toward him. She says that he is in her heart, but that she isnt really ready for a committment. She says that I need to concentrate on being comfortable with Buffy first. She uses this cute Cookie Dough analogy lol.

Dawn returns with Xander, and her and Buffy have cute sister thing. Which leads to Dawn staying. Spike confronts Buffy about Angel, but in the end of the conversations she gives him the amulet that is only to be wore by a champion. She gives to him acknowledging that she sees him as a champion :D. Later that night The First finally visits Buffy this season. Trying to make her doubt herself. First it took the form of Caleb, then lastly to Buffy saying the only power you have is when you are alive. "You know the drill into every generation a slayer is she alone will face the forces of darkness". That line is significant for the slayer mythology. The First says "alone" how'll you live and die, and that gives Buffy the idea every potential slayer will turn into a slayer. Hence slayer army vs. ubervamps.

So now you can start from the beginning of series with "Welcome To The Hellmouth" Angelfire :D.

Wow thanks, sounds like I missed a really good episode. I caught bits in between moving cows(when i had to come get stuff from the house) and I saw her give the neckless to Spike, but the show was on mute so I didn't know what it was about. I also saw Caleb with the bleed eyes, but nothing after that. SO a big Thanks, now I understadn waht happened, and that she did love Spike:)I'm sad I missed the ending but I'm happy I can watch it all from the begin now:)

Summers

03-24-2005, 10:14 AM

your welcome :D. Look how young the actors look in the pilot especially David lol.

hey, I dont if you guys saw the new trailer for Smallville but they used the Final Fight music from "Chosen" in it.

Snake_Corda

03-24-2005, 10:37 AM

No I missed it...now I am really mad at myself :mad: .

Summers

03-24-2005, 10:44 AM

I'll email it to you Snake when I get home.

Snake_Corda

03-24-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Summers
I'll email it to you Snake when I get home.

Thanks Summers :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-24-2005, 11:39 AM

Hey summers could also send me one :D?

Spiked

03-24-2005, 12:37 PM

Could you send me the link for the trailer Summers? Thanks! :)

Also, Happy 31st Birthday to Alyson Hannigan!

Summers

03-24-2005, 02:45 PM

sure you guys. You the reason why I cant post it here lol. PM me your emails. Wait, I have Spiked and Snake's already. Buzz PM your email, and I will sent it to you guys all at once.

BuZzArD 8012

03-24-2005, 03:33 PM

Ok :D.

Summers

03-24-2005, 03:51 PM

Alright I sent it to all of you. Hopefully it works.

BuZzArD 8012

03-24-2005, 04:01 PM

Co0l, thx summers :D.

Spiked

03-24-2005, 07:37 PM

Whoa! Awesome trailer! Thanks Summers! :)

angelfire east

03-24-2005, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Summers
your welcome :D. Look how young the actors look in the pilot especially David lol.

hey, I dont if you guys saw the new trailer for Smallville but they used the Final Fight music from "Chosen" in it.

I couldn't get over how young everyone looked, Xander looked most like the same age. David was still hot, but I like him a little older, more mature and sexy:D How old was everybody at the time Buffy started? I really liked Willow, and felt so bad for her, Condy was so mean to her. She's nicer on Angel, but then again on Angel is had fallen from being the coolest of the cool, and thought she was being punshed for being so mean in high school but I didn't think she was that bad. Poor Willow just thougth Buffy was too cool to be arounf her, and Xander looked like he was figging Buffy a bit. I can't wait to watch more tomorrow:)

Summers

03-24-2005, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by angelfire east
I couldn't get over how young everyone looked, Xander looked most like the same age. David was still hot, but I like him a little older, more mature and sexy:D How old was everybody at the time Buffy started? I really liked Willow, and felt so bad for her, Condy was so mean to her. She's nicer on Angel, but then again on Angel is had fallen from being the coolest of the cool, and thought she was being punshed for being so mean in high school but I didn't think she was that bad. Poor Willow just thougth Buffy was too cool to be arounf her, and Xander looked like he was figging Buffy a bit. I can't wait to watch more tomorrow:)

funky huh? lol. Yea, that was how Cordy was in the first season. You'll see her evolve some on BtVS, but Angel she took great leaps like you said. I know poor Willow. She really didnt think Buffy would come back, or hang around with her. You are right Xander does has the hots for her. It was funny after noticing her slams into a railing on his skateboard lol. It was "to be continued" so you should be watching "The Harvest" next then. Gee, over here we are in the third season.

How old was everyone? Let's see Sarah was the youngest of cast. When she filmed this episode she just turned 19. Charisma, Aly, and Nick were already in their mid- to late-20s. David was close to 30 years old. He was the oldest besides Tony(Giles) in the cast.

I dont know I always thought David younger was way hotter, than he is now. Its funny I thought when James(Spike) is older he looked hotter than he was younger.

your welcome Spiked and Buzz. I'm glad it worked :D. Funky hearing Buffy on Smallville huh? lol.

angelfire east

03-24-2005, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Summers
funky huh? lol. Yea, that was how Cordy was in the first season. You'll see her evolve some on BtVS, but Angel she took great leaps like you said. I know poor Willow. She really didnt think Buffy would come back, or hang around with her. You are right Xander does has the hots for her. It was funny after noticing her slams into a railing on his skateboard lol. It was "to be continued" so you should be watching "The Harvest" next then. Gee, over here we are in the third season.

I'm glad Willow found such good friends like Buffy, Giles and others. I know she had Xander but I like her having more firends:) I thought he'd be really hurt when he did that or that Buffy would turn and look. Yeap the Harvest tomorrow unless some one is calving. I can't wait. I found soem Buffy and Angel DVD's in town today, they cost 60 dollors and up. Are there more exarts on them then the Smallville DVDs? Not that I have enough money to buy the DVD's if there is.:(

Originally posted by Summers
How old was everyone? Let's see Sarah was the youngest of cast. When she filmed this episode she just turned 19. Charisma, Aly, and Nick were already in their mid- to late-20s. David was close to 30 years old. He was the oldest besides Tony(Giles) in the cast.

Thanks for the info:) I love Giles he was so funny, the way he just dropped that book on evil in front of Buffy before he said more then two wrods to her.

Originally posted by Summers
I dont know I always thought David younger was way hotter, than he is now. Its funny I thought when James(Spike) is older he looked hotter than he was younger.

Maybe it's because I frist saw David older and am use to it. So how old was he in season 5 of Angel? I think Spike looking hoter when he's older because tehy did the make up better then before.

Hey where's Dawn, I know Buffy's mom dies in a later season and then she came to Sunnydale. IS dawn living with her father in L.A or something?

Summers

03-24-2005, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by angelfire east

Hey where's Dawn, I know Buffy's mom dies in a later season and then she came to Sunnydale. IS dawn living with her father in L.A or something?

Okay, this is where it might get a little confusing. There was no Dawn. Dawn doesnt exist. She is a key. At this time she isnt even human, but rather a portal of energy. In season 3 you will see foreshaowing of Dawn coming, and in season 4 a bigger foreshadowing. Monks made Dawn of out Buffy's blood. They gave everyone fake memories of Dawn, and Dawn has fake memories of them when the Monks turned this portal of energy human. They had to disguse her because the insane hellgod Glory needs the key(Dawn) to open hell dimensions in Sunnydale. It will be Buffy's destiny to protect Dawn, and to scarfice her life for her sister and the world. There is no Dawn until season 5.

That maybe confusing, but if you have more questions many of us will be happy to elaborate more. Because you saw the end, and not the beginning hence many questions about Dawn's origin.

Snake_Corda

03-24-2005, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Summers
Okay, this is where it might get a little confusing. There was no Dawn. Dawn doesnt exist. She is a key. At this time she isnt even human, but rather a portal of energy. In season 3 you will see foreshaowing of Dawn coming, and in season 4 a bigger foreshadowing. Monks made Dawn of out Buffy's blood. They gave everyone fake memories of Dawn, and Dawn has fake memories of them when the Monks turned this portal of energy human. They had to disguse her because the insane hellgod Glory needs the key(Dawn) to open hell dimensions in Sunnydale. It will be Buffy's destiny to protect Dawn, and to scarfice her life for her sister and the world. There is no Dawn until season 5.

That maybe confusing, but if you have more questions many of us will be happy to elaborate more. Because you saw the end, and not the beginning hence many questions about Dawn's origin.

Yeah that threw me at first when she appeared. I was watching all the seasons on FX at first and I didn't know anything other than what I had seen. I thought I had missed a whole bunch of episodes when Dawn showed up. I was so lost for a while :lol: .

Summers

03-24-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Snake_Corda
Yeah that threw me at first when she appeared. I was watching all the seasons on FX at first and I didn't know anything other than what I had seen. I thought I had missed a whole bunch of episodes when Dawn showed up. I was so lost for a while :lol: .

I know huh? lol. Its neat though because that's how they set up Dawn. In the beginning of season five it was like she was always here, and all the characters knew her. I remember back on the boards people were like(including me) WTH is going on here. But they always had a crazy person see her, and know she didnt belong. Once that guy called her "Little Miss Muffet" things started to click all the way back to Graduation Day. It was too cool.

Snake_Corda

03-24-2005, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Summers
I know huh? lol. Its neat though because that's how they set up Dawn. In the beginning of season five it was like she was always here, and all the characters knew her. I remember back on the boards people were like(including me) WTH is going on here. But they always had a crazy person see her, and know she didnt belong. Once that guy called her "Little Miss Muffet" things started to click all the way back to Graduation Day. It was too cool.

Yeah, see this is where I needed someone that I could throw ideas off with at that time. I was just trying to go with the flow of the series and silly me, never stopped to recognize any of that back then :lol: . Like Summers says, it all makes sense later on.

Summers

03-24-2005, 10:34 PM

yea, it was oh yea that makes more sense. With the dreams with Faith, and Tara saying "come back before Dawn" in Restless...that's my favorite forshadowing :D.

Snake_Corda

03-24-2005, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Summers
yea, it was oh yea that makes more sense. With the dreams with Faith, and Tara saying "come back before Dawn" in Restless...that's my favorite forshadowing :D.

It really was great writing by Joss and Co to pull such an inventive idea like that. If only we could have all our shows allows us to be safe and secure by the Mr. Whedon.

Summers

03-25-2005, 09:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUZZ!!! I hope you have a wonderful day :D.

Snake_Corda

03-25-2005, 10:30 AM

Yeah happy Birthday Buzz!! Hope you get all of your Buffy dvds :D.

angelfire east

03-25-2005, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Summers
Okay, this is where it might get a little confusing. There was no Dawn. Dawn doesnt exist. She is a key. At this time she isnt even human, but rather a portal of energy. In season 3 you will see foreshaowing of Dawn coming, and in season 4 a bigger foreshadowing. Monks made Dawn of out Buffy's blood. They gave everyone fake memories of Dawn, and Dawn has fake memories of them when the Monks turned this portal of energy human. They had to disguse her because the insane hellgod Glory needs the key(Dawn) to open hell dimensions in Sunnydale. It will be Buffy's destiny to protect Dawn, and to scarfice her life for her sister and the world. There is no Dawn until season 5.

That maybe confusing, but if you have more questions many of us will be happy to elaborate more. Because you saw the end, and not the beginning hence many questions about Dawn's origin.

wow that's a really create of way to bring in a new character. I can't wait to watch that happen. I got a long time to wait before I do. Does eveybody know she's not really Buffy's sister now but just call still call her Buffy's sister. Who did the monks get Buffy's blood? Or did it not take much blood? Thanks so much for the info:)

Happy Birthday Buzz! Hope yopu have a good one:)

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 11:35 AM

No. No one knows she's not really Buffy's sister. The monks gave everyone fake memories.

Lambshank

03-25-2005, 11:45 AM

I always thought it would be much more effective to turn the Key into a pebble and throw it into the middle of the ocean, then they would never have found it. :D

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 11:50 AM

:lol: That wouldn't have been much of a plot.

Spiked

03-25-2005, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Summers
I know huh? lol. Its neat though because that's how they set up Dawn. In the beginning of season five it was like she was always here, and all the characters knew her. I remember back on the boards people were like(including me) WTH is going on here. But they always had a crazy person see her, and know she didnt belong. Once that guy called her "Little Miss Muffet" things started to click all the way back to Graduation Day. It was too cool.

Man I remember that. It was so cool how the writers intertwined everything. I really wish more shows would do that. Hello, the audience isn't stupid. We can catch things and put two and two together, lol.

Happy Birthday Buzzard! Hope you have a wonderful day! :)

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 12:54 PM

That's because Joss thought these things through years ahead.

Summers

03-25-2005, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Lambshank
I always thought it would be much more effective to turn the Key into a pebble and throw it into the middle of the ocean, then they would never have found it. :D

:rotfl: lol. Didnt Glory say "as far we know it couldve been a gas pump?" lol.

Originally posted by Spiked
Man I remember that. It was so cool how the writers intertwined everything. I really wish more shows would do that. Hello, the audience isn't stupid. We can catch things and put two and two together, lol.

Happy Birthday Buzzard! Hope you have a wonderful day! :)

exactly. They didnt tell us anything of what was going on with Dawn. I didnt look in the spoilers in those days, but the easiest thing to figure out was "Little Miss Muffet counting down from 7-3-0". Once the crazy man said "Curdes and way" from the rhyme you knew Little Miss Muffet was Dawn, and 730 was 730 Days which equal 2 years. But dang that's all I could figure out. It so cool, but little by little they would give information and let you figure out. Oh, it so cool. Plus they other arcs going at the same time :eek:.

Originally posted by VersesBatman
That's because Joss thought these things through years ahead.

yea, see how well organized planning works out :D. He basically had Buffy's arc founded, but everyone he knew where to go but not as solid as Buffy's was.

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 01:08 PM

That's why I totally believe the PTB at Smallville are winging it. You can't create great shows by winging it.

Summers

03-25-2005, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by angelfire east
wow that's a really create of way to bring in a new character. I can't wait to watch that happen. I got a long time to wait before I do. Does eveybody know she's not really Buffy's sister now but just call still call her Buffy's sister. Who did the monks get Buffy's blood? Or did it not take much blood? Thanks so much for the info:)

Happy Birthday Buzz! Hope yopu have a good one:)

Like VB said everybody knew Dawn as Buffy's sister from the fake memories the Monks gave them. They do find out the truth. Giles and Buffy tell them what Dawn is. So in the last season everyone knew Dawn used to be this powerful energy. The Monks were trying to use the energy for good, but the hellgod Glory wanted to use the energy for another reason which would result in Earth's utter destruction.

Who did the monks get Buffy's blood? That was never elaborated. They never told how they got her blood. But we do know that Dawn and Buffy have the same exact blood. Its what they shared. Buffy is more connected to Dawn than Joyce Summers. They never showed us how the Monks got her blood. BtVS detail and continuity is about 90% accurate, but the other 10% is up to the viewer. And the moral questions asked is up to you. There is actually a lot up to you.

Originally posted by VersesBatman
That's why I totally believe the PTB at Smallville are winging it. You can't create great shows by winging it.

I agree. They are winging it on many aspects. The Jor-El arc looks the most solid IMO of all their arcs. That is pretty decent, but the important details that are left missing that annoy me. I understand forgetting at least one or two important details, but so many of them. Its hard to forget. I mean BtVS didnt elaborate on how the Monks got Buffy blood. Or talk about the no sun in L.A., but that's it. Well.....that's all I can really think of that they didnt elaborate on when I thought they should lol.

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 01:29 PM

Oh yeah, you can't be perfect all the time. But Al/Miles are really pushing it.

Summers

03-25-2005, 01:48 PM

That's an understatement. Really they are the worst I ever seen lol.

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 01:50 PM

I would love to be a fly on the wall during their brainstroming sessions. I cannot fathom how you can screw up a show about Superman.

Summers

03-25-2005, 02:05 PM

:lol: I rather be a fly on Whedon and Co. walls to see how they dont mess things up :D.

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 02:08 PM

That's true. That and go back in time and be a fly on Monty Python's wall.

Summers

03-25-2005, 02:19 PM

That would be cool :D.

VersesBatman

03-25-2005, 03:01 PM

I was thinking that one of the reasons why Joss is so good is because he wrote for Pixar.

Summers

03-25-2005, 03:23 PM

He did write some scenes in Toy Story :D. I think Joss is so good for a mixture of things, but primarly he understands human emotion and character development. I mean he understood so were that realistic emotions we are seeing a world of fantasy. I think its mixture of things. Heck, the influence from his mother was a variable.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 04:05 PM

Hey Guys!!!!!, been gone since it was my Bday today :D. So what are you guys talking about?

Summers

03-25-2005, 04:24 PM

Nothing lol. Just the Dawn arc, and how cool it was. So did your open your presents yet? :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 04:26 PM

Yup summers :D.

I got all 6 seasons of Buffy WOO HOO :D. Only missing one now.

It must of cost my mom a fortune but she got them for me. Im so happy right now lol.

Summers

03-25-2005, 04:29 PM

omg, that was an expensive gift but pretty terrific one :D. Alright happy viewing for a long time :). Which one are you missing now?

I'm so glad your gut was right.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 04:30 PM

lol yup :D.

Umm......Im missing season 7 and thats it hehe.

Summers

03-25-2005, 04:37 PM

ah, the last season lol. One of my favorites....well, depending your point of view that is lol. So you have all of Angel as well right?

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 04:43 PM

Yup, you betch ya ;). I just like Angel a tad bit more then Buffy so thats why I got all the seasons of Angel first. Reason is because Angel was more of man show lol.

J/K :D.

btw, THX for saying Happy Birthday to me in the Roll Call thread :D.

Summers

03-25-2005, 04:47 PM

ah, the man show defense :lol:. eh, I love Buffy little bit more :D. I would buy each season of Angel and Buffy on dvd on the first day each came out. For some reason I didnt play favorites on the dvd because I was more worried about saving enough money to buy them lol.

no prob Buzz :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 04:51 PM

lol yup the Defense of man show :D.

Same here about the saving enough money lol.

So any new news???

Summers

03-25-2005, 04:55 PM

No not really. You can post some if you want, but nothing drastic as I can see.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 05:00 PM

Cool!!!

What about the Wonder woman thing?

Summers

03-25-2005, 05:02 PM

yea, its a rumor that Misha Barton is going to be her.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 05:06 PM

NOOOOOOOO!!!, I want Charisma but don't think its happening :(.

Summers

03-25-2005, 05:09 PM

I doubt it because Joss isnt looking to actresses right now. He's concentrating on the story first and getting the actress later. Plus he said he isnt using Buffyverse actresses.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 05:11 PM

That stinks :(. To bad, I had high hopes for charisma in this movie.

Summers

03-25-2005, 05:14 PM

Well, he could change his mind. Remember Sarah nor Amber Benson was originally casted for Buffy and Tara. They had more auditions, and they were best suited for the parts.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 05:16 PM

Thats true. So there is still hope lol.

I just wanted Charisma to do this :D.

But have a question. Do you know when the Angel comics come out?

Summers

03-25-2005, 05:21 PM

No. I keep checking though. I heard dates from early this summer to early winter. I dont know yet. All we seen are the cover arts of the comics thus far.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 05:24 PM

Oh ok :).

The cover art looks awesome though :D.

Summers

03-25-2005, 05:26 PM

Indeed they do. And no news yet on the US Angel soundtrack release date either.

Well, its Friday and I'm off. Have a great b-day Buzz :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-25-2005, 05:27 PM

Thx summers :D.

Seeya around ;).

Spiked

03-25-2005, 06:25 PM

Wow, that's one great birthday gift! I would rather watch Buffy kick butt then Angel any day, lol. :D

SUPERNITE

03-25-2005, 06:40 PM

buffy was the the worst piece of s@?t to ever cross the air waves. not because i hate the premise i just felt that the additional characters carried sarah michelle character.

Spiked

03-25-2005, 06:49 PM

^ *Laughs hysterically* So who wants to handle this one? :lol:

SUPERNITE

03-25-2005, 06:53 PM

oooh the legion

Spiked

03-25-2005, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by SUPERNITE
oooh the legion

lol, something like that.

Ok, no worries. He's been banned! *evil laugh* Ahem.

nexgod

03-26-2005, 03:38 AM

Serves him right.

He doesn't know anything about Buffy.

But obviously that's not the reason he's banned ;)

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Spiked
Wow, that's one great birthday gift! I would rather watch Buffy kick butt then Angel any day, lol. :D

lol, I bet you would Spiked :D .

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 08:19 AM

Some new Fanart!!!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20001

Summers

03-26-2005, 02:34 PM

hey, nexgod returns :D. Well, that was intertesting tangent by the other poster :lol:. Has anyone listened to the commentary of "Lies My Parents Told Me"?

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 02:51 PM

Nope, how is it?

Summers

03-26-2005, 03:08 PM

Its one of the best IMO because they talk about their interpretations of the episodes. What certain lines mean. Like when it first aired William's mom is named Anne, and many people(including me) thought it was a connection to Buffy Anne Summers. Which the writers said it was on purpose. Saying that just like Spike's mom Buffy brings the humanity out in Spike. They purposely had Anne blond to be similar to Buffy. There is a more connection with Spike and Buffy because of the love Spike had for his mother.

There is was one thing I always disagreed with David Fury(the co-writer of the episode) which was that Giles confesses to Buffy that he killed Ben in season 5. Fury says no one wants to know about that anymore, but I do. I always wanted that to be brought out in the open. They had in the script, and filmed and he took it out.

I do agree with Fury that Spike is an analomy in the vampire world. He has more humanity in him. That was kept from his past self which really makes Spike soulless even more different than Angelus. One the reasons why I love Spike. In this commentary they really went into detail. Thus far I really didnt like The Killer In Me commentary..not as fun.

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 03:11 PM

Thats awesome!!!!!!!

What season was that in?

Summers

03-26-2005, 03:22 PM

It happens to be the only season you dont have yet lol. The last season which is season 7. The episode basically helped push the characters along, and the catalyst of separating Buffy from everyone else.

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 03:38 PM

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!. That really stinks :(. I have to get that season hehe :D.

Summers, some new David Pictures for ya :D.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20025&PHPSESSID=8ab5e5e1ebce243ebe50d999615d106d

Summers

03-26-2005, 03:53 PM

oh, yea I remember those pictures because of shirt. which is a nice shirt :D. thanks Buzz.

Trivia: Capturing Lightning in a Bottle

David Greenwalt comments on the episode "Angel" and what he considers as the greatest Buffy Arc ever. "When those two kissed there was suddenly so much myth between them."

It was David's episode Angel that first revealed the character's vampire nature and past. Looking back, he (David Greenwalt) had no idea they would be capturing lightning in a bottle by pairing Buffy and Angel together.
"We knew David Boreanaz was a special talent, but frankly nobody wanted to do that episode" he said candidly. "I said I'd do it tand then, my God almighty, when those two kissed there was suddenly so much myth between them. It made me so happy, when I might have considered it corny years before. It eventually led to the greatest Buffy arc ever, with Angel becoming Angelus."

Source: ANGEL magazine

I love that scene. Freaked me out. I never suspected Angel was a vampire......it was so cool :D.

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 04:38 PM

Your welcome :D.

Thats awesome :D. Yea it was cool lol.

Check this out summers if you haven't :D.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20035&PHPSESSID=cd7e1e538e163ac89ea99ac4574e2f9f

Summers

03-26-2005, 04:43 PM

oh, yummy David photos. I was about to click on a minute ago. Gee, you can really tell David has men's handwriting, and Sarah has girl's handwriting.

Thanks, Buzz.

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 04:45 PM

lol, I know :D.

Your welcome :D.

Summers

03-26-2005, 05:22 PM

I probably wont be able to get on because of Easter, so I want to wish everyone here a Happy Easter :D. And everytime this year comes around I always think of Anya's Bunny phobia lol.

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 05:46 PM

I hope you have a Great Easter summers :D.

Spiked

03-26-2005, 08:08 PM

Have a wonderful Easter Sunday Summers! I'll try to stop by tomorrow and say hey to everyone! :)

BuZzArD 8012

03-26-2005, 08:09 PM

You to Spiked :D. Have a Great Easter :D.

Snake_Corda

03-28-2005, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by Summers
I probably wont be able to get on because of Easter, so I want to wish everyone here a Happy Easter :D. And everytime this year comes around I always think of Anya's Bunny phobia lol.

Nothing like Anya dressing up as that bunny for Halloween :rotfl: .

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 08:45 AM

Tru calling Promos part 2!!!!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20037&PHPSESSID=9738d8c2d41e4ec317c23f6069a24176

Don't know if anyone seen promos one. But if you didn't just tell me or summers or spiked :D.

Spiked

03-28-2005, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by BuZzArD 8012
Tru calling Promos part 2!!!!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20037&PHPSESSID=9738d8c2d41e4ec317c23f6069a24176

Don't know if anyone seen promos one. But if you didn't just tell me or summers or spiked :D.

Got them posted up in the Tru Calling thread. ;)

Summers

03-28-2005, 09:26 AM

Did you put the first part of the promos as well? I believe Slayerverse had two parts of it.

Spiked

03-28-2005, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Summers
Did you put the first part of the promos as well? I believe Slayerverse had two parts of it.

Yeah sure did. :)

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Spiked
Got them posted up in the Tru Calling thread. ;)

Ok :D .

Sorry about that :) .

Hey summers, you talking to me or Spiked?

Spiked

03-28-2005, 09:30 AM

No problem Buzz. :)

Summers

03-28-2005, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by BuZzArD 8012
Ok :D .

Sorry about that :) .

Hey summers, you talking to me or Spiked?

:lol: either one because its like sometimes we all post the same things, but there are so many topics that intertwine with the Buffyverse from Point Pleasent to Wonder Women lol. Dont want to post the same thing twice in the same thread lol.

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 09:36 AM

Oh :lol:.

Yup :D.

angelus666

03-28-2005, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by vyperman7
OH NO!!

I got the character that I hate the most in the Buffy universe and that is Riley Finn!! He is the main reason why season four is my least favorite season of the show.

Talk about irony!!

LOL Riley does suck. I got Wesley who is my second favorite character after Spike.

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 09:42 AM

Yea I didn't like riley either. Im glad Angel woop his behind in the Yoko Factory episode :D.

Summers

03-28-2005, 10:08 AM

What is with men who dont like Riley? I'll never get lol.

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 10:10 AM

lol summers, umm......he doesn't have super powers :D.

Summers

03-28-2005, 10:14 AM

*rolls eyes* neither does Xander nor Wesley. I hope that's not your defense lol. I loved the fight, but you know how I feel. Angel was acting very petty, and beated down a human. He went down a couple notches in my eyes in that episode. Riley knew full well Angel was a vampire. Stronger than him, but he still fought him and never gave up.

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 10:18 AM

lol, well I understand what your saying but I just don't like him lol. But remember what I said, I like him a little just for you summers :D.

Summers

03-28-2005, 10:21 AM

:D He was a great character. Come on he was better than stinky Parker. I want to get that new film First Daugther that co-stars Katie Holmes and Marc Blucas in it. He looks too cute in it.

Marc Blucas & Katie Holmes behind the scenes
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20071

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 10:23 AM

Yea, he was better then Parker so I give him a little props :D. But nice pictures of him.

Snake_Corda

03-28-2005, 10:23 AM

The dislike for Riley probably comes from the fact that he was just human, and there were already normal human males in Buffy's life that were liked more. Like you said, Wesley and Xander...and more importantly Xander was probably seen as the normal guy's vicarious hope of hooking up with the dream girl(I know he hooked up with Cordy...so it's kinda flawed). Then here comes Mr. Special Forces acting like Buffy couldn't defend herself, and with all the secrecy. It just kind of left a bad taste I guess for some people.

BuZzArD 8012

03-28-2005, 10:31 AM

Hehe, good point Snake :D.

Summers

03-28-2005, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Snake_Corda
The dislike for Riley probably comes from the fact that he was just human, and there were already normal human males in Buffy's life that were liked more. Like you said, Wesley and Xander...and more importantly Xander was probably seen as the normal guy's vicarious hope of hooking up with the dream girl(I know he hooked up with Cordy...so it's kinda flawed). Then here comes Mr. Special Forces acting like Buffy couldn't defend herself, and with all the secrecy. It just kind of left a bad taste I guess for some people.

Yea, I can understand that. I hear that mentioned often. He had an inferiority problem with Buffy which was actually noticeable in "The Initative", but that's just how he was raised. I wasnt mad at Riley for that. To me iI blamed both Buffy and Riley about their failed relationship. She didnt let him in, so what is he suppose to think. Talk about no communcation between the two lol.

What I liked about him is that he had his problems, but I'm glad they didnt show him as Mr. Perfect. They showed more flaws in him in season 5 of how he thought, and how lost he was. Now if he was Mr. Perfect I would have a problem with him. Too me Groo on Angel had less flaws than Riley. I loved Riley more than Groo.

Summers

03-28-2005, 09:24 PM

I dont know if its okay for me to post this or not. If its not apporiate by all means the moderators can edit my post. I really wasnt sure if its okay or not :(.
TV's Worst Clips 2001-2004
Parent Council Television (PTC) shows controversial moments in television, including a Buffy clip.
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20088

Its from the episode "Same Time, Same Place" with the Gnarl demon. Honestly, I seen worse that on other shows lol, and actually worse than that on BtVS. I was expecting to see the ending of "Smashed" or "Dead Things", but I guess they are going for violence in this sense. Its no worries because BtVS was cleared of all charges two and half years ago. I dont why they keep mentioning it lol.

btw, the clip contains graphic scenes and shouldnt been seen while youngsters in the room because the graphic clip has other shows in it from Nip/Tuck to The Shield. Those are the most graphic.

Michelle in Teen Vogue
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20092

Has anyone read or listen the Chosen commentary? I loved it. Its one of my favorites.
-I forgot that Marti Noxon helped in writing the Cookie Dough speech. As young woman I totally identified me at this time of my life.
-And how Sarah had to say 4 x's as much her Chosen speech. They edited it half down, but Sarah had to read the whole thing and didnt miss a beat. At the very end the whole cast, extras(potential slayers), and crew cheered for her because she did it so well over and over again. Eliza said she loved that speech.
-Joss mentions that the great "Final Battle" music increased the budget higher because it was so epic and large.
-He mentioned how the little league girl where he thought it might be cheesy, but he found out many people loved it. Especially the girls who were in little league. I loved that little girl with her smile at the end. So cute, and cool and I was that little league girl too when I was little.

I really loved listening to the commentary. I disagreed with what he said about Kennedy. There are very few things I disliked on BtVS, and she was one of them. I will never like her, but the actress who plays her is really sweet and nice. But what he was saying about the primary theme of BtVS in the show, and the little girls is what my mom, sisters, and my friends discussed exactly after we watched the finale. Just like Angel's Not Fade Away Chosen was straightforward on telling the theme of show, and straightfoward. I find that many shows seem to forget what they are all about when they finally make it to their series finale. I loved both Whedonverse finales immensely :D.

Snake_Corda

03-29-2005, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Summers
Yea, I can understand that. I hear that mentioned often. He had an inferiority problem with Buffy which was actually noticeable in "The Initative", but that's just how he was raised. I wasnt mad at Riley for that. To me iI blamed both Buffy and Riley about their failed relationship. She didnt let him in, so what is he suppose to think. Talk about no communcation between the two lol.

What I liked about him is that he had his problems, but I'm glad they didnt show him as Mr. Perfect. They showed more flaws in him in season 5 of how he thought, and how lost he was. Now if he was Mr. Perfect I would have a problem with him. Too me Groo on Angel had less flaws than Riley. I loved Riley more than Groo.

Yeah you are right that both of them deserve blame for their relationship. Riley's inferiority complex to Buffy's abilities was magnified when he realized that she was not "in" love with him. I think it's possible that even given all of their flaws, if Buffy could have looked at him as an equal I think she could have fallen in love with him; and Riley with the knowledge of her being "in" love with him could have conquered his insecurities, and possibly could have ended up being the most safe and stable relationship for Buffy in the long run.

Sorry for the ginormous run-on there...but that's the most objective I think I've ever been on Riley and I figured I'd better role with because it wasn't gonna last long :lol: .

Summers

03-29-2005, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Snake_Corda
Yeah you are right that both of them deserve blame for their relationship. Riley's inferiority complex to Buffy's abilities was magnified when he realized that she was not "in" love with him. I think it's possible that even given all of their flaws, if Buffy could have looked at him as an equal I think she could have fallen in love with him; and Riley with the knowledge of her being "in" love with him could have conquered his insecurities, and possibly could have ended up being the most safe and stable relationship for Buffy in the long run.
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One of Buffy's problems is that she really didnt consider anybody her equal. Her slayerness made her feel isolated, and superior. She speaks of this in "Conversations With Dead People", and she further says that because she feels this way she is really beneath her friends and boyfriends. They are far superior to her. Holden called it "you have an inferioity complex within your superioty complex". The slayer really messed Buffy up. Its like she tried to co-exist with these two identities, and she couldnt. In the end she finally realized that she can be both by letting everybody in, and not in spurts. In the books "Tales of Slayers" they speak of this complex many slayers have.

The complex Buffy has is what to me makes her intriguing, and why I love her character. She so not perfect.

BuZzArD 8012

03-29-2005, 09:02 AM

Updates :D.

Unaired Miss Match episodes in France.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20102&PHPSESSID=772bda5fadfe154406c2a2a1e722fb42

Alyson Hannigan Movie Pic

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20072&PHPSESSID=96cefed4144948ef5f39274773674165

Eliza with older brother at event!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20064

Buffy or Faith

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20087

Whedon Considering Affleck as Wonder Woman lol.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20086

Small Sarah Scan

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20094

Michelle in Teen Vogue

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20092

Scan: Beautiful Sarah

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20090

Snake_Corda

03-29-2005, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Summers
One of Buffy's problems is that she really didnt consider anybody her equal. Her slayerness made her feel isolated, and superior. She speaks of this in "Conversations With Dead People", and she further says that because she feels this way she is really beneath her friends and boyfriends. They are far superior to her. Holden called it "you have an inferioity complex within your superioty complex". The slayer really messed Buffy up. Its like she tried to co-exist with these two identities, and she couldnt. In the end she finally realized that she can be both by letting everybody in, and not in spurts. In the books "Tales of Slayers" they speak of this complex many slayers have.

The complex Buffy has is what to me makes her intriguing, and why I love her character. She so not perfect.

True enough. I can see how that would really mess a person up, and give a person the impression that they can't allow anyone in...especially as a teenager is highly traumatic. It's a basic human need to have love and affection and if you can't feel that you can give or receive such emotion...there is a lot of pity to be felt for Buffy during that time period.

Summers

03-29-2005, 04:17 PM

Alyson Hannigan News
'Buffy' Vet Hannigan Mothers CBS Comedy
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20129

Michelle has signed for a new movie, found a new leading man, and a famous executive producer. Its with WILL ESTES...he's so cute:
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20133

Kitchen Confidential *update* From Seth to Nick
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20135

Snake_Corda

03-30-2005, 06:09 AM

Thanks for the updates Summers :D

Summers

03-30-2005, 12:17 PM

your welcome.

Over at the Sarah board...www.smgboard.com. Are reporting sightings of Sarah in Texas filming her new movie "Revolver". She styling her natural hair color brown. We should be getting behind-the-scene pictures soon. IMO Sarah's face looks great with any hair color. Mine never can well blonde and brunette, but not red lol. So it should neat to see Sarah in brown again.

and WOOHOO!! Just noticed we are now at the 2000 replies in this thread :D.

Spiked

03-30-2005, 12:35 PM

It'll be a treat to see SMG in her natural hair color again. Can't wait for those pics.

Summers

03-30-2005, 12:37 PM

I agree. You know she had to dye it back again like she did in Cruel Intentions.

Snake_Corda

03-30-2005, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Summers
your welcome.

Over at the Sarah board...www.smgboard.com. Are reporting sightings of Sarah in Texas filming her new movie "Revolver". She styling her natural hair color brown. We should be getting behind-the-scene pictures soon. IMO Sarah's face looks great with any hair color. Mine never can well blonde and brunette, but not red lol. So it should neat to see Sarah in brown again.

and WOOHOO!! Just noticed we are now at the 2000 replies in this thread :D.

Well I'll see if I can sneak down there for an upclose peek at what is going on :D.

Woo Hoo!! Did I win anything :p .

Summers

03-30-2005, 01:06 PM

I think she is in Austin I believe or Houston?

Snake_Corda

03-30-2005, 01:14 PM

Yeah it said Austin...bout what...2 1/2-3 hours from here down I35 South...*Dreams about seeing SMG in Texas Longhorn gear* :D

Summers

03-30-2005, 01:34 PM

:lol: depending on her character's wardrobe lol.

In the Angel thread we were talking about the Hugo Awards its been nominated for. Well, here are the awards Buffy has been nominated or won:

AFI Awards, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2002 Nominated AFI TV Award AFI Drama Series of the Year

Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2005 Nominated Saturn Award Best DVD Television Programming
For seasons 2 and 3.

2004 Won Saturn Award Best Supporting Actor in a Television Series
James Marsters
Also for "Angel" (1999/I).
Nominated Saturn Award Best Actress in a Television Series
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Best Network Television Series

2003 Won Cinescape Genre Face of the Future Award Female
Emma Caulfield
Also for Darkness Falls (2003).

Saturn Award Best Supporting Actress in a Television Series
Alyson Hannigan
Nominated Saturn Award Best Actress in a Television Series
Sarah Michelle Gellar

Best DVD TV Programming Release
For seasons 1 & 2.
Best Network Television Series
Best Supporting Actor in a Television Series
James Marsters
Best Supporting Actress in a Television Series
Michelle Trachtenberg

2002 Won Cinescape Genre Face of the Future Award Male
James Marsters

Saturn Award Best Network Television Series
Nominated Saturn Award Best Actress in a Television Series
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Best Supporting Actor in a Television Series
James Marsters
Best Supporting Actress in a Television Series
Alyson Hannigan
Best Supporting Actress in a Television Series
Michelle Trachtenberg

2001 Won Saturn Award Best Network Television Series
Best Supporting Actor on Television
James Marsters
Nominated Saturn Award Best Actress on Television
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Best Supporting Actor on Television
Anthony Head
Best Supporting Actress on Television
Alyson Hannigan
Best Supporting Actress on Television
Michelle Trachtenberg

2000 Nominated Saturn Award Best Genre TV Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Best Genre TV Supporting Actor
Nicholas Brendon
Best Genre TV Supporting Actor
James Marsters
Best Network Television Series

1999 Won Saturn Award Best Genre TV Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nominated Saturn Award Best Genre Network Series
Best Genre TV Actor
Nicholas Brendon

1998 Won Saturn Award Best Genre Network Series

Bram Stoker Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2000 Nominated Bram Stoker Award Screenplay
Joss Whedon
For episode "Hush".

Cinema Audio Society, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
1999 Won C.A.S. Award Outstanding Achievement in Sound Mixing for a Television Series
For episode "Lover's Walk".

Emmy Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2003 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Special Visual Effects for a Series
For episode "Chosen".

2002 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Hairstyling for a Series
For episode "Hell's Bells".
Outstanding Makeup for a Series (Non-Prosthetic)
For episode "Hell's Bells".
Outstanding Makeup for a Series (Prosthetic)
For episode "Hell's Bells".
Outstanding Music Direction
For episode "Once More, With Feeling".

2000 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Cinematography for a Single Camera Series
Michael Gershman
For episode "Hush".
Outstanding Hairstyling for a Series
For episode "Beer Bad".
Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series
Joss Whedon
For episode "Hush".

1999 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Makeup for a Series
For episode "The Zeppo".
Outstanding Sound Editing for a Series
For episode "Lover's Walk".

1998 Won Emmy Outstanding Makeup for a Series
For episode "Surprise/Innocence".
Outstanding Music Composition for a Series (Dramatic Underscore)
Christophe Beck
For episode "Becoming", part I.
Nominated Emmy Outstanding Hairstyling for a Series
For episode "Becoming", parts I & II.

1997 Nominated Emmy Outstanding Makeup for a Series
For episode "Welcome To The Hellmouth".

GLAAD Media Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2002 Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding Drama Series

2001 Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding TV Drama Series

Golden Globes, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2001 Nominated Golden Globe Best Performance by an Actress in a TV-Series - Drama
Sarah Michelle Gellar

Golden Satellite Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2005 Nominated Golden Satellite Award Best DVD Extra
For season 6
For the commentary.
Best DVD Release of TV Shows
For season 6.
Best Overall DVD
For season 6.

2003 Nominated Golden Satellite Award Best Overall DVD
For season two.
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series, Drama
James Marsters
Best Performance by an Actress in a Series, Drama
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Drama
Emma Caulfield
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Drama
Alyson Hannigan
Best Television Series, Drama

2002 Won Special Achievement Award Outstanding Television Ensemble
Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)

2003 Won Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Award Best Special Makeup Effects - Television Series
Nominated Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Award Best Period Hair Styling - Television Series

2002 Nominated Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Award Best Special Makeup Effects - Television (For a Single Episode of a Regular Series - Sitcom, Drama or Daytime)
For episode "Bargaining", part I and II.

2001 Nominated Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Award Best Contemporary Hair Styling - Television (For a Single Episode of a Regular Series - Sitcom, Drama or Daytime)
For episode "Restless".
Best Contemporary Makeup - Television (For a Single Episode of a Regular Series - Sitcom, Drama or Daytime)
For episode "Restless".
Best Period Hair Styling - Television (For a Single Episode of a Regular Series - Sitcom, Drama or Daytime)
For episode "Fool for Love".
Best Special Makeup Effects - Television (For a Single Episode of a Regular Series - Sitcom, Drama or Daytime)
For episode "New Moon Rising".

2000 Won Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Award Best Special Effects Makeup - Television (for a Single Episode of a Regular Series - Sitcom, Drama or Daytime)
For episode "Living Conditions".

Hugo Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2004 Nominated Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation - Short Form
For episode "Chosen".

2003 Won Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation - Short Form
For episode "Conversations With Dead People".

2002 Nominated Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation
For episode "Once More, With Feeling".

International Horror Guild
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2003 Nominated IHG Award Best Television

2001 Nominated IHG Award Best Television

2000 Nominated IHG Award Best Television

1999 Won IHG Award Best Television

Kids' Choice Awards, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2003 Nominated Blimp Award Favorite Female Butt Kicker
Sarah Michelle Gellar

2002 Won Blimp Award Favorite Female Action Hero
Sarah Michelle Gellar

Nominated Blimp Award Favorite Television Show

2001 Nominated Blimp Award Favorite Television Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar

2000 Nominated Blimp Award Favorite Television Friends
Sarah Michelle Gellar
David Boreanaz

1999 Nominated Blimp Award Favorite TV Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Favorite TV Show

Motion Picture Sound Editors, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2002 Won Golden Reel Award Best Sound Editing in Television -
For episode "Once More With Feeling".
Nominated Golden Reel Award Best Sound Editing in Television - Effects and Foley, Episodic
For episode "The Gift".

2001 Nominated Golden Reel Award Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Effects and Foley
For episode "Fool For Love".
Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Music
Fernand Bos (music editor/scoring editor)
For episode "Superstar".

2000 Nominated Golden Reel Award Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Dialogue and ADR
For episode "Beer Bad".
Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Music
Fernand Bos (music editor/scoring editor)
For episode "The Prom".

1999 Nominated Golden Reel Award Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Dialogue and ADR
Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Music

1998 Nominated Golden Reel Award Best Sound Editing - Television Episodic - Music

Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2003 Nominated Nebula Award Best Script
Joss Whedon
For episode "Once More, With Feeling".

2002 Nominated Nebula Award Best Script
Joss Whedon
For episode "The Body".

TV Guide Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2001 Nominated TV Guide Award Supporting Actress of the Year in a Drama Series
Alyson Hannigan

2000 Won TV Guide Award Favorite Sci-Fi / Fantasy Show
Favorite Teen Show
Teen Choice Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2003 Won Teen Choice Award Choice TV Actress - Drama/Action Adventure
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nominated Teen Choice Award Choice TV - Drama/Action Adventure
Choice TV Actor - Drama/Action Adventure
James Marsters
Choice TV Sidekick
Alyson Hannigan

AWARDS PART DEUX

Here's the second part of the awards:
2002 Won Teen Choice Award TV - Choice Actress, Drama
Sarah Michelle Gellar
TV - Choice Sidekick
Alyson Hannigan

2001 Nominated Teen Choice Award TV - Choice Drama

2000 Won Teen Choice Award TV - Choice Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nominated Teen Choice Award TV - Choice Actor
Seth Green
TV - Choice Drama
TV - Choice Sidekick
Alyson Hannigan
TV - Choice Sidekick
James Marsters

1999 Won Teen Choice Award TV - Choice Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nominated Teen Choice Award TV - Choice Drama

Television Critics Association Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2003 Won Heritage Award

2001 Nominated TCA Award Individual Achievement in Drama
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Outstanding Achievement in Drama
Program of the Year

2000 Nominated TCA Award Outstanding Achievement in Drama
Program of the Year
Viewers for Quality Television Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2000 Won Founder's Award
Visual Effects Society Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2004 Won VES Award Outstanding Visual Effects in a Television Series
For season 7, episode #22 "Chosen"

Young Artist Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2001 Won Young Artist Award Best Performance in a TV Drama Series - Supporting Young Actress
Michelle Trachtenberg

1999 Nominated Young Artist Award Best Performance in a TV Drama or Comedy Series - Leading Young Actress
Sarah Michelle Gellar

1998 Nominated Young Artist Award Best Performance in a TV Drama Series - Guest Starring Young Actor
Jeremy Foley
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k, that's it. That's all the awards from AFI to the Kids's Choice Awards. From "Welcome to the Hellomouth" to "Chosen". That's it.

Snake_Corda

03-30-2005, 01:37 PM

*crumbles under the weight of Summer's ginormous post*

Wow...thanks Summers :D . I must save this list for future study.

Summers

03-30-2005, 01:57 PM

Took like ten minutes to copy and paste it from mulitple sites. At least now we can use it as reference for other boards we go to. Because that really gave my fingers a cramp lol.

More news on Sarah's "Revolver" from www.smgboard.com. They are reporting her long and brown. Her hair is long right now, so its her hair or wig. And this:

Actress needing work?
QUOTEFeature film REVOLVER needs extras
Posted: March 25, 2005
The feature film "Revolver" starring Sarah Michelle Gellar & Sam Shepard is looking for male & female extras age 25-35 for a techno nightclub scene shooting over two Wednesday NIGHTS: March 30th & April 6th from approximately 4pm to 4am. The pay is the standard $75/12 hours.

www.themovieinsider.com

angelfire east

03-30-2005, 05:47 PM

I just saw the first few episodes of Buffy. Angle is really wired, like when Buffy asked him why he didn't go save Xander's friend/stop the the master himself and and it the way he said "because of afraid", I was weirded out. then later when she asked him if he was going to say good luck, he just starred, then once he was gone he said good luck. It's the way he says his lines. They leave me feeling weird, but it's good I like it:D

And wow, that's a lot of rewards:eek: but then again Buffy is really great so it makes scents:)

Summers

03-30-2005, 09:25 PM

Cool. What episode did you just watch?

Summers

03-30-2005, 11:00 PM

Enjoy those rare picture of the scoobies!
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20166

These pictures are never seen before. These were taken the same day the pictures used for the episode "After Life". Remember when Buffy is just back from the grave, and she looks at the happy pictures of her and her friends right before they turned into skulls(very creepy btw). Well, these are outtakes that werent used the episode. The Scoobies look so cute, and love Sarah's hair. Amber looks silly hanging over Aly, Nicky, and Emma :lol:. Usually pictures are sometimes photoshoped in, but if they have the means to do it they will use actual pictures.

BtVS usually used actual pictures, every now and then promo pictures for the series, or screencap(but only once as I recall with Xander and Anya). They have used season 1 pictures a lot with just the Scoobie Trio where Xander is laying on Buffy's leg. That one is cute too :).

btw, i love slayerverse's banner. they look too cute lol.

angelfire east

03-30-2005, 11:06 PM

I just watched the one with the sub sicene teacher who was a bug and wanted to have "sex" with Xander and another boy for her eggs. I love how both boys try to tell everyone they not virgins. it was too funny:D

Summers

03-30-2005, 11:10 PM

:lol: "Teacher's Pet" :lol: Xander is just too funny on the topic. Noticed Angel gave Buffy his jacket :D, and she goes "oh, boy" lol.

angelfire east

03-30-2005, 11:27 PM

I know, I can see her crushing on him a bit:D I didn't know Xander had a thing for Buffy, I can see why, but I think it's cute.

Summers

03-30-2005, 11:32 PM

um, did you see "The Witch"? Where Buffy tryouts for cheerleading you see a hint there, but tomorrow's episode "Never Kill A Boy On A First Date" you see more of Xander's crush on Buffy. I love that episode too :D.

I always thought it was cute, and big love triangle. Because you have Willow who has a crush on Xander who has a crush on Buffy who has the hots for Angel who is vampire lol. Remember no one knows he is vampire yet. Season 1 had more relationships in it, but the rest of series really balances out the mythology and relationships very well.

angelfire east

03-30-2005, 11:37 PM

Yeah I saw the "The Witch":D Poor girl what a evil mother, I love where she needed up in the end:D

I also loved how Buffy was telling Xander why she loved him, because he was just like one of the girls :rotfl:

I can't wait to see the next episode. I've started taping them so when I go out to do farming stuff I would mess it.:)

Summers

03-30-2005, 11:42 PM

gee, I wish I could tape episodes lol. Long story, but that's great. You can do your farming stuff, and get Buffyverse episodes later :D.

I loved it when Willow came into the science lab with a baseball bat yelling "WHERE IS SHE!!". I couldnt stop laughing. That episode is when I realized BtVS is a completely different show I never seen before.

Here's a hint on continuity: Just remember where Amy's mother ended up you'll see it referenced very funny in season 2 ;).

angelfire east

03-30-2005, 11:49 PM

Cool! thanks,

Man I can't wait to watch all of BtVS and Angel, but the dvds are over 60 dollors here so I'm going with the tapes, I can wait.

Summers

03-30-2005, 11:55 PM

Isnt things in Canada more expensive compared to the U.S.? Yea, I agree it is expensive. I had to save two months for each of my Angel/BtVS/SV dvds. They are so expensive. I cant record the episodes because of the hookup with the VCR that's why I saved for so long. You are so lucky you can record them.

You still have so many seasons to go through. You only started. Well, you know how it ends :lol:.

angelfire east

03-31-2005, 12:05 AM

Yeah things cost more:( it does help that I live up North, in a small town.:/

I know, it's like reading the ending of a book before you start reading the rest, then going back and trying to read it cover to cover. It's really messed up, but that's just how I am, doing things like this:lol: Same goes with Angel, I know who lives and who dies basicly(sp).

Summers

03-31-2005, 12:07 AM

:lol: eh, at least you wont be confused after you see the rest of series lol. There are so many storylines you havent seen yet, and so you'll see many cool things from a musical episode to no talking at all :D. That's all I'm going to say. I so do not what to ruin it for you :).

angelfire east

03-31-2005, 12:10 AM

anyway night summers, only way tomorrow comes faster is if I'm asleep,(well feels like it) and I want tomorrow to come faster;):D

I saw the no one talking one. Very cool:D

I saw a part of the musical episode a few years back, about one mintue before my brother changed the channel. ican't wait to see that epsiode:D

Summers

03-31-2005, 12:10 AM

I'm off to bed too. Night Angelfire I hope you enjoy your episodes tomorrow :). Smart idea to record them ;).

LanaandPete

03-31-2005, 05:03 AM

Just wondering if they were to make a BTVS movie, what characters would you put in it and what story would you use.

Also is it true that they tried to get Eric Ballfour back to reprise his role as Jesse(who would be the First) to try to mess with Xander. I heard they wanted a Jesse/Xander moment in Conversations with Dead people

Summers

03-31-2005, 10:51 AM

That's true. They planned on having Jesse return if they couldnt make Willow/Tara part worked. They found a way with Cassie, so they used that instead. Plus the time limit hinder them as well.

Mysticlies

03-31-2005, 12:12 PM

Who was Jesse again?

Summers

03-31-2005, 12:24 PM

In the pilot episode 'Welcome to the Hellmouth" he was Xander's buddy. He was turned into a vampire as a way to bait Buffy to come to the Master's lair. Later Xander staked him accidently.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 01:14 PM

REMEMBER NEW TRU CALLING 2 HOUR PREMIER TONIGHT @ 8/7c!

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 01:22 PM

Thx Spiked :).

Spiked

03-31-2005, 02:20 PM

Wow, SMGfan.com closes after 9 years:

http://sarahmichelleprinze.com/

Summers

03-31-2005, 02:33 PM

:rotfl: oh, its not closing every year they do that. Its a celebration of celebrating the last 9 years of the Net. On the smgboard they asked that, and the adminstrator said they arent closing. They are still one board.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Summers
:rotfl: oh, its not closing every year they do that. Its a celebration of celebrating the last 9 years of the Net. On the smgboard they asked that, and the adminstrator said they arent closing. They are still one board.

*crouches in a corner* I didn't know that! Stop laughing!

LOL!

Summers

03-31-2005, 02:46 PM

Its an April Fool's joke. We get newbies to the board, and it happens every year lol. When they first did it they accidently did the wrong wording, and it was too late to fix it. So they left it ever since then it happens :lol:. Its one the most widely known sites and boards to get Buffy/Sarah news.

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 02:50 PM

Little Update :D

Beautiful David Drawing!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20198

Mercedes MCNab Signs for Playboy OMG!!!!

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20194

Eliza & The New Guy Star! I remember this guy playing in the movie called the New Guy with Eliza. But now he looks weird :p.

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20208

Spiked

03-31-2005, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Summers
Its an April Fool's joke. We get newbies to the board, and it happens every year lol. When they first did it they accidently did the wrong wording, and it was too late to fix it. So they left it ever since then it happens :lol:. Its one the most widely known sites and boards to get Buffy/Sarah news.

Ooooh. Well it fooled me. LOL.

Summers

03-31-2005, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Spiked
Ooooh. Well it fooled me. LOL.

:lol: the adminstraters fool still worked lol. Glenn and Hostess will be happy lol.

Thanks, Buzz :D.

Beware on slayerverse tomorrow some news will be April Fool jokes lol.

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 02:56 PM

Your welcome, I can't believe Mercedes is doing it :D.

Summers

03-31-2005, 02:58 PM

I'm not. Mercedes is very open about her body. Charisma did as well. If Aly and Sarah do that, then I will be surprised.

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 02:59 PM

Well with Sarah, I would be VERY suprised lol.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 02:59 PM

I'm so glad I'll be at New Orleans tomorrow and the rest of week because I do fall for the April Fool's jokes. It's pitiful on my part. I guess I don’t clue in or clicks that it’s April Fool’s? I dunno…

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:00 PM

I hate April Fools, because Im the only one my family picks on, on April Fool's day :p.

Summers

03-31-2005, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by BuZzArD 8012
Well with Sarah, I would be VERY suprised lol.

yea, she is very much aganist even in film. That's why you guys saw very little skin of Sarah besides maybe a thigh or her back :lol:.

Originally posted by Spiked
I'm so glad I'll be at New Orleans tomorrow and the rest of week because I do fall for the April Fool's jokes. It's pitiful on my part. I guess I don’t clue in or clicks that it’s April Fool’s? I dunno…

:lol: me too. Your going to New Orleans? great food there. Is it your senior class trip?

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Summers
yea, she is very much aganist even in film. That's why you guys saw very little skin of Sarah besides maybe a thigh or her back :lol:.

:lol: me too. Your going to New Orleans? great food there. Is it your senior class trip?

lol :lol: , yea.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Summers
:lol: me too. Your going to New Orleans? great food there. Is it your senior class trip?

I have a band competition there. We'll perform then tour New Orleans, go to Six Flags, and go to a Masquerade Ball (which I can't wait for!) and other stuff. I've been before and loved it so I can't wait to go again! :)

Summers

03-31-2005, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Spiked
I have a band competition there. We'll perform then tour New Orleans, go to Six Flags, and go to a Masquerade Ball (which I can't wait for!) and other stuff. I've been before and loved it so I can't wait to go again! :)

ooh, I'm green with envy. Have a great time, and enjoy the food. You have to try the pastries :D.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 03:23 PM

Oh yes the pastries! French Quarter here I come! Maybe I could use some of my French!

Alright, well I'm headed to get some dinner! Talk with y'all later! :)

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:31 PM

Seeya Spiked, and it sounds Exciting :D.

Summers

03-31-2005, 03:33 PM

Bye, Spiked have a great time in New Orleans :D.

Lambshank

03-31-2005, 03:34 PM

Hey guys, wanna hear the best news concerning Buffyverse since Charisma posed for playboy?

http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20194

Hell yeah!

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:36 PM

Already posted.

Summers

03-31-2005, 03:37 PM

oh, why cant James pose nude? :(....j/k

Lambshank

03-31-2005, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by BuZzArD 8012
Already posted.

Haha, I was to excited to bother checking :D

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:41 PM

lol, I was actually suprised but now Im not.

Summers

03-31-2005, 03:45 PM

Am I going to have to get the hose for you guys when this comes out?

btw, when it does come out do not post it on this board. This is a pg-13 site okay. We didnt post Charisma's either okay?

Lambshank

03-31-2005, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by Summers
Am I going to have to get the hose for you guys when this comes out?

btw, when it does come out do not post it on this board. This is a pg-13 site okay. We didnt post Charisma's either okay?

Lol, of course I won't post it. Although I bet some images would be suitable for PG-13, we can just discuss the beauty of it all without linking :P

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:48 PM

Summers

03-31-2005, 03:50 PM

I was talking to everyone. Just in case. Last time the boys would comment how pretty she looked, but not in detail okay. I dont want the thread or you guys getting trouble k? :(.

That's why I put a disclaimer up for the worst clip with violence just in case. Nudity is consider different.

BuZzArD 8012

03-31-2005, 03:52 PM

Oh ok, gotcha :).

angelfire east

03-31-2005, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Summers
um, did you see "The Witch"? Where Buffy tryouts for cheerleading you see a hint there, but tomorrow's episode "Never Kill A Boy On A First Date" you see more of Xander's crush on Buffy. I love that episode too :D.

I always thought it was cute, and big love triangle. Because you have Willow who has a crush on Xander who has a crush on Buffy who has the hots for Angel who is vampire lol. Remember no one knows he is vampire yet. Season 1 had more relationships in it, but the rest of series really balances out the mythology and relationships very well.

I just saw "Never Kill A Boy A First Date" today, it was too funny, poor Xander he really likes Buffy. I thought it was so funny when he was trying to stop Buffy and Owen(sp) for going together, telling Buffy to wear not sexy type dresses, telling Owen(sp) that Buffy doesn't like dancing, touching or kissing :lol:

I don't think Angel really liked Buffy dating either, the way he looked at Owen(sp) am I imagening it because I know later they love each other, but could he really be crushing on her a bit?

Summers

03-31-2005, 07:54 PM

You are right Angel doesnt like having Buffy dating because he does have the crush for Buffy. He was giving the jealous look especially when he said "your here.....on a date" with those puppy dog eyes. Just remember that because they will show you why in season 2 ;).

I loved it when Buffy kills the vampire by saying "you killed my date!!!", and Owen says "did you see that he tried to kiss me? what a sissy" :lol:. Owen and Cordy were so funny, and the Clark Kent reference. Oh, one of the most infamous lines from Buffy "If the acoplayse(sp?) comes beep me" lol.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Summers
Oh, one of the most infamous lines from Buffy "If the acoplayse(sp?) comes beep me" lol.

I love that quote! LOL.

Summers

03-31-2005, 07:57 PM

:lol: I honestly thought I said it wrong. I'm trying to remember what's after "Never Kill A Boy On A First Date". Isnt it "Angel"?

Spiked

03-31-2005, 08:02 PM

The next episode is The Pack. After The Pack is Angel. You were close! :)

Summers

03-31-2005, 08:07 PM

ah, man off by one. Oh, The Pack is good. Evil Xander :D. I loved the music in the episode.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 08:13 PM

It is good. Nicholas Brendon did a great job in that episode. The pig scene is so funny. And the look on Xander's face when he realizes he ate a pig. It's great.

Summers

03-31-2005, 08:16 PM

oh, yea. and he denys ever remembering it happend lol. I love how he does his eyes in the episode. And the classic Dodgeball scene....who would thought dodgeball would be that intense.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 08:18 PM

That was creepy. It looked and sounded like it hurt.

Summers

03-31-2005, 08:22 PM

Oh, when that guy got hit with the dodgeball? yea. Oh, that's the episode Aly pants Nicky, and he was all commando that day :eek: :lol:.

Spiked

03-31-2005, 08:26 PM

Oh yeah! Poor guy.

Summers

03-31-2005, 08:28 PM

Totally forgot about that. In front of all those dodgeball extras lol.

savemeclark

03-31-2005, 10:34 PM

I have a question? I don't want to take the time right now to figure it out, so I thought I'd ask instead. Um, what episode was in from Buffy's Season One did Darla die?

Summers

03-31-2005, 10:48 PM

That would be "Angel" :D.

savemeclark

03-31-2005, 11:00 PM

Thanks Summers!

I just watched Darla from S2 of Angel and I had a sudden urge to rewatch her appearance in the beginning of Buffy. But for some reason I was thinking she died in the 2nd episode. Thanks again!

Summers

03-31-2005, 11:03 PM

Anytime. Your right though she did appear in the 2nd episode "The Harvest" Willow poured Holy Water on her, but that's it.

Lambshank

04-01-2005, 03:24 AM

Guys! The pics are released!!!

OMFG SO HOT!

GOOGLE IT NOW AND SEE EM!

angelfire east

04-01-2005, 08:46 AM

That was Darla in the second epsiode? They changed the actress for Angel.

Summers

04-01-2005, 12:05 PM

No, that was the same actress Julie Benz. Darla was in the two-parter pilot. She was the first vampire we ever see in the series :D. Anytime you see Darla on BtVS or Angel its played by the same actress Julie Benz.

BuZzArD 8012

04-01-2005, 01:04 PM

I loved Julie Benz, she was a great actor :D.

Summers

04-01-2005, 03:15 PM

Julie Benz is great. She is so sweet, and her acting is very compelling even in her early work in BtVS season 1.

Chosen Art Special
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20232

great fan art with AtS's "Shells" and BtVS's "This Year's Girl". And Buzz's favorite character Conner.

Originally posted by Spiked
Ooooh. Well it fooled me. LOL.

I had to post this. Spiked thought www.smgboard.com closed, but it was an April Fool's joke. Here's Joan, one of the adminstraters said:

At Buffy Online

Posted by: the hostess (guest)
01.04.05 - 16:45
smgfan is not closing guys its an april fools joke unfortunatley its upset some of the board members and they are some what freaking out but not to destroy the surprise altogether ive decided to tell people here who are also a fan of buffy aswell as Sarah about myelf and glenn's little joke, Happy april fools

See Spiked your not the only one fooled :lol: Happens every year, but they are celebrating 9 yrs. on the net.

Summers

04-01-2005, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Lambshank
Guys! The pics are released!!!

OMFG SO HOT!

GOOGLE IT NOW AND SEE EM!

:lol: that's from another magazine she did lol

April Fool's Day: The Fake News!

We resolve the fake news of April Fool's Day!

First of all Mercedes will not show us her body in Playboy. But who knows, perhaps in the future?

Aly and Alexis are just doing fine and are having a very great relationship.

We hope that you had fun with our April Fool's Day News.

Well this year Smgfan.com landed the best April Fool's joke. But next year we will beat that ;-)

Slayerverse Team

They fooled me on the Mercedes one too :lol:

Seth Green: New Series!
Seth will become the star of a new sitcom!!!
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20245

Its great to see nearly all of the Buffyverse actors/actresses success in film, music, and tv.

Lambshank

04-01-2005, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Summers
:lol: that's from another magazine she did lol

April Fool's Day: The Fake News!

We resolve the fake news of April Fool's Day!

First of all Mercedes will not show us her body in Playboy. But who knows, perhaps in the future?

Aly and Alexis are just doing fine and are having a very great relationship.

We hope that you had fun with our April Fool's Day News.

Well this year Smgfan.com landed the best April Fool's joke. But next year we will beat that ;-)

Slayerverse Team

They fooled me on the Mercedes one too :lol:

Seth Green: New Series!
Seth will become the star of a new sitcom!!!
http://www.slayerverse.net/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=20245

Its great to see nearly all of the Buffyverse actors/actresses success in film, music, and tv.

My April fools joke was about the pics being released, I didn't see any. Slumber sent me a PM asking me where they was, lmao.

That April fools joke sucks though! They did it BEFORE April fools! DAMMIT.

Summers

04-01-2005, 05:01 PM

:lol: I thought you were being serious lol. Just because they did it the day before April Fools is what got me on Mercedes and www.mugglenet.com. If it wasnt early, then I wasnt fooled. Smgfan.com did a good one too lol.

JayChicago23

04-01-2005, 05:06 PM

Hey Summers do you like BTVS movie or the series the best?

Summers

04-01-2005, 05:14 PM

um, for me without the doubt the series far more. u?

JayChicago23

04-01-2005, 05:22 PM

I like the series better because it went alot of places that the movie didn't.

That's the benefit of having a sucessful series like BTVS because it touched on so many things and I asked you because I always see your avatar in almost every thread and also because you are a RESIDENT BUFFY FANATIC. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Summers

04-01-2005, 05:28 PM

Oh :lol:.

I agree you can tell Joss Whedon didnt have creative control over the movie at all. I love the series more it was like you said touched so many things from comedy to very very dark.

You know it took me a year to come up with that custom text message. I couldnt think of anything that fit me lol. I never knew you were a buffy fan :D.

JayChicago23

04-01-2005, 05:34 PM

Oh yeah I like Buffy but this is Smallville and I tend to stick to it but it is cool to branch off and talk about other great shows especially since there are not new episodes on at the moment. lol

Summers

04-01-2005, 05:40 PM

Here's "The Pack" summary Angelfire:

Episode 6 "The Pack" Summary

The students of Sunnydale High school are spending the afternoon at the zoo. Besides the standard zoo animals, this facility has a special new hyena exhibit, marked "Positively No Admittance." This piques the interest of Sunnydale's obnoxious cool crowd, who have already had their fun tormenting Buffy and a shy, bookish student named Lance. After grabbing poor Lance's notebook, they enter the forbidden hyena house, forcing him to follow. Xander, worried about his timid classmate, decides to come to his rescue. As they wait for Xander, Buffy and Willow meet an eccentric zookeeper, who claims the hyenas can understand human speech -- they learn people's names, call out to them, and then eat them. Meanwhile, the crowd in the hyena house starts to get rough with Lance, but suddenly their eyes start flashing yellow -- apparently, they've stepped into a mystical circle on the floor and a transformation has taken place. We see the eyes of one student who never meant to be there, and they're flashing yellow, too. It's Xander.

Back at school, Principal Flutie proudly introduces the students to Herbert, the Sunnydale Razorbacks' new mascot. Not quite as menacing as the team's namesake, Herbert is a actually a little pig. Xander elicits a strange reaction from Herbert when the two exchange a glance. Since returning from the zoo trip, he is more confident, more aggressive, and generally not the same old Xander. His love-sick puppy stares have turned to animal leers -- he has even taken to sniffing Buffy.

Willow brings the news to Buffy and Giles that Herbert is dead-- the pint-sized porker has been eaten by the hyena-possessed students. Buffy tries to confront Xander, but he becomes even more aggressive and pounces on her. They scuffle for a while, but Buffy finally decks him, and locks him into a steel book-return cage. When it is discovered that the pack is responsible for Herbert's demise, Principal Flutie is up in arms. He summons the group to his office to reprimand them, but doesn't get the chance.

The news horrifies everyone -- Principle Flutie has been eaten! The "official" story is that a pack of wild dogs did it, but Buffy, Willow and Giles know the truth. Since Xander was with Buffy when the incident occurred, she is relieved that he was not involved. Giles has figured out that in order to restore order, the spirits of the hyenas must be taken from the students and put back into the animals. While Buffy and Giles go to the zoo, Willow offers to watch over Xander. The zookeeper, well-versed in these matters, offers to help with the "transformation," and says that all the students must return to the mystical circle in the hyena cage. But one member of their pack is missing -- Xander -- and Buffy and Giles realize, to their horror, that they will seek him out, leaving Willow vulnerable to their attack. When they do just that, Xander breaks free from the cage, but Willow hides. They escape the school grounds and Buffy leads them all to the zoo.

While everything seems to be going according to schedule, it turns out that the zookeeper's plan is to absorb all the hyena?s spirits himself. He does, and grabs Willow in order to perform a predatory act which is part of the ritual. Xander, back to his old self, reacts to seeing his friend in jeopardy and dives on the zookeeper, freeing Willow. When the zookeeper goes after Buffy, she hurls him into the hyena cage, where he is promptly devoured.

Episode Summary From: Buffy.com

Originally posted by JayChicago23
Oh yeah I like Buffy but this is Smallville and I tend to stick to it but it is cool to branch off and talk about other great shows especially since there are not new episodes on at the moment. lol

True, but I cant help it. I tried. I seriously tried not to it, but its like part of my vocabluary now. I will at least have one quote or reference at least once. But that's just being me lol.