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LexLuthorMetropolis
11-11-2005, 09:31 PM
I love her with black hair!

angelfire east
11-11-2005, 10:18 PM
I think I'd go with that song from the season 3 DVD, you know when you turn it out waiting for the meue(sp) to come up. I love that song.

I made 4 different verison of one of my favorite scenes of season 7, it made me laugh so hard, it was so funny. I just love it:D The banners aren't great but it's the best I can do right now. I'm better with SV art.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/spikehatesAngel1.gif
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/spikehatesAngelyellow.gif
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/spikehatesangelwithangel.gif
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/spikehatesangelwithangelyellow.gif

I love that picture of SMG, she looks great with her hair that color:D

BuZzArD 8012
11-12-2005, 11:32 AM
Love the Spuffy banners Becki! Great job :D.

Summers
11-12-2005, 03:10 PM
Great Spuffy banners :D.

Oh, that song is awesome Becki which I loved they put in the menu of S3. That song from "Bad Girls" is excellent :D.

angelfire east
11-12-2005, 04:28 PM
ThanksD

Do you know what that song is called? Thanks for the name I couldn't remember if it was "Bad Girls" or "Dirty Girls". Now I remember Dirty Girls was in season 7.:D

Summers
11-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Yup, let me get my trusty Watcher's Guide Vol.2 out.

It says its "Chinese Burn" by Curve.

"Empty Places" did have Nerf Herder the last band to play at The Bronze. The band that did the BtVS theme music :).

aqua
11-12-2005, 05:15 PM
Actually, that was in "Empty Places," not "Dirty Girls."

Summers
11-12-2005, 05:24 PM
My bad. You are correct, but at least they were right next to each other in episode order lol.

aqua
11-12-2005, 05:58 PM
Close enough. lol

Speaking of "Empty Places," have I mentioned how horribly written and contrived the fight at the end was?

Summers
11-12-2005, 08:13 PM
I was watching Saving Private Ryan today, one of the greatest films on WW2, and I saw Nathan Fillion also known to us as Caleb and on Firefly Capt. Mal Reynolds. He was so young in the movie, but man he delivered one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

He was mistaken for the actual Private Ryan, and he just crying in fear that his little brothers are killed. Saying over and over again "I need to go home" :(. Nathan is incredible.

angelfire east
11-12-2005, 09:25 PM
Really:eek: That was him! My brother has the DVD, too bad now I want to watch it and see him. Caleb is still one of my favorite bad guys, he scares me so much but I can't take my eyes away from teh screen.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-12-2005, 09:29 PM
Nathan was also a Preist in DRACULA 2000. It wasn't anything stand out, but he influences the main character and her actions early on.

angelfire east
11-12-2005, 09:31 PM
And thanks for the info Mel:)

aqua
11-12-2005, 09:53 PM
I liked Caleb in "Dirty Girls," but that was really it. I loved how Nathan acted though, so different from Firefly.

Summers
11-12-2005, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
Really:eek: That was him! My brother has the DVD, too bad now I want to watch it and see him. Caleb is still one of my favorite bad guys, he scares me so much but I can't take my eyes away from teh screen.

Yea, at first my sister Suzie and I were like :eek: "That's Caleb!!!", then my other sister says "It's Capt. Mal". We are just so in love with Nathan. Talk about yummy goodness, and great actor. You can tell it was him with the way he talks, and moves his jaw. Plus can't forget how his face looks. He is just younger, and little smaller. He had a small scene, but man he carried terrifically.

Caleb is one of my favorite mini-bads :D.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Nathan was also a Preist in DRACULA 2000. It wasn't anything stand out, but he influences the main character and her actions early on.

note to self: watch for Nathan lol

yellowqueen22
11-13-2005, 12:45 AM
All we need to say is Nathan is incredibly yummy, incredibly tasty, incredibly talented, and incredibly lucky with some awesome Whedon roles.

aqua
11-14-2005, 04:53 AM
Anyone else see David Boreanaz on Punk'd? Heh, it was funny.

atrufan14
11-14-2005, 11:54 AM
I want to find it somewhere on the net - seeing a I like in England, I doubt that they'll be showing it anytime soon. I'm also looking for a clip of Eliza Dushku on punk'd. Did anyone see that? (it was a while ago).

BuZzArD 8012
11-14-2005, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by aqua
Anyone else see David Boreanaz on Punk'd? Heh, it was funny.

I did, it was hilarious. David was about to hit the guy :lol:.

btw, love your text Mel :D.


Originally posted by atrufan14
I want to find it somewhere on the net - seeing a I like in England, I doubt that they'll be showing it anytime soon. I'm also looking for a clip of Eliza Dushku on punk'd. Did anyone see that? (it was a while ago).

Here you go Atrufan :).

http://www.slayerverse.org/tanet/net_buffy_us/?navi=news.php&id=27551

Summers
11-14-2005, 03:39 PM
I missed the Punk'd with David, but there should be a clip online soon.

Eliza was funny, but Seth Green's Punk'd was very funny :lol:.

Tnanks, John :D.

Here's the clip of David's Punk'd:
http://www.slayerverse.org/tanet/net_buffy_us/?navi=news.php&id=27551

BuZzArD 8012
11-15-2005, 11:47 AM
Hehe, posted that Mel ;).

Summers
11-15-2005, 12:54 PM
I thought it was Eliza's Punk'd :lol:. My bad lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-15-2005, 12:56 PM
Who from Buffy and Angel has been Punk'D anyway? Not a fan of the show, but just curious.

Summers
11-15-2005, 01:07 PM
Eliza, Seth, and now David.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-15-2005, 01:10 PM
Ashton must have a lot of free time on his hands lol.

cayayofm
11-15-2005, 03:29 PM
Today was released the Chosen Collection so here is a review from Entertaiment Weekly:

http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=12497

Here are some highlights:

''There are some things you can’t state often enough, Buffy the Vampire Slayer is one of the seminal TV shows of the last 50 years. In the top 10. Not open for debate.''

''Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a titanic achievement, one worth holding on to so you can show your children.''

However I agree with the editorial review about the bonus material, I think that one of the things that most Buffy fans wanted to see, including myself, where deleted scenes, that probably we never will get to see.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-15-2005, 03:32 PM
Entertainment Weekly gave it a B in issue #850, November 18, 2005, page 111.

angelfire east
11-16-2005, 12:55 PM
One banner, two different verison: this time I'm happier with them in my last buffy banners
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelspikebanner.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelandspikebanner.gif

BuZzArD 8012
11-16-2005, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I thought it was Eliza's Punk'd :lol:. My bad lol.

Hehe, its ok Mel :D.


Originally posted by angelfire east
One banner, two different verison: this time I'm happier with them in my last buffy banners
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelspikebanner.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelandspikebanner.gif

Love these banners Becki! Great job on them :).

Summers
11-16-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
Today was released the Chosen Collection so here is a review from Entertaiment Weekly:

http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=12497

Here are some highlights:

''There are some things you can’t state often enough, Buffy the Vampire Slayer is one of the seminal TV shows of the last 50 years. In the top 10. Not open for debate.''

''Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a titanic achievement, one worth holding on to so you can show your children.''

However I agree with the editorial review about the bonus material, I think that one of the things that most Buffy fans wanted to see, including myself, where deleted scenes, that probably we never will get to see.

I love EW. They were such a strong supporter of the show in all aspects from the beginning :D.

We know they were deleted scenes especially from "Chosen". Joss said he doesn't want to put them on the boxset :(. Even though Angel dvd had a deleted scene in S3, and in Firefly :(.

cayayofm
11-16-2005, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I love EW. They were such a strong supporter of the show in all aspects from the beginning :D.

We know they were deleted scenes especially from "Chosen". Joss said he doesn't want to put them on the boxset :(. Even though Angel dvd had a deleted scene in S3, and in Firefly :(.

Yeah, that is one of the things that I most wanted to see; not only from Chosen, I know that there should be alot of great deleted scenes from Hush, Once more with feeling, all the season finales among others. Overall almost all the episodes end with 2 or 3 deleated scenes. I know that much of them should be fun to watch.

Summers
11-16-2005, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
One banner, two different verison: this time I'm happier with them in my last buffy banners
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelspikebanner.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelandspikebanner.gif

I love them Becki :).


Originally posted by cayayofm
Yeah, that is one of the things that I most wanted to see; not only from Chosen, I know that there should be alot of great deleted scenes from Hush, Once more with feeling, all the season finales among others. Overall almost all the episodes end with 2 or 3 deleated scenes. I know that much of them should be fun to watch.

Actually, majority of the episodes really didn't have deleted scenes. Joss and writers was able to put majority of the script inside the episode because they were real big on organization. The known deleted scenes in BtVS are from:
-"Smashed" extended version of the end
-"Dead Things" extended version
-"Lies My Parents Told Me" with a Giles/Buffy scene
-"Empty Places" alternate confrontation at the end. It was shown a little bit in the trailer though.
-"Chosen"

Those are the known deleted scenes. There really wasn't a lot. OMWF is extremely edited only in the syndicated version. Nothing was cut in the originally airing. Joss did an interview on deleted scenes.

Dallies are more scene now though.

angelfire east
11-16-2005, 03:52 PM
Why doesn't he want to put the deleted scene on the DVD?

Summers
11-16-2005, 03:57 PM
Because what you saw on episode was what they were going for. There is really no need to have them which is why they didn't have much as compared to SV which as a lot lol. There was just no need for it he basically said.

aqua
11-16-2005, 04:30 PM
There might not have been a need plotline value, but still would be enjoyable to watch. :\

Oh, anyone see that Dead Things.. well, not deleted scene, but uncensored version? That was- different.

Summers
11-16-2005, 04:44 PM
There really wasn't a lot though because they were far more organized. You know when a tv shows has too many deleted scenes they spent too much money. Networks really don't like that type of carelessness with their money.

The one that would be worth seeing is the alternate confrontation in "Empty Places" which I forgot to mention which was actually shown a itty bitty bit in the trailer. Never used, and major editing in that scene.

I saw it. Nothing much really nor was "Smashed". "Dead Things"(another I forgot to add). and "Smashed" really didn't show much as compared what is shown now four years later. It's just extended is all, and really IMO kinda of a waste to download.

I love the dallies more than deleted scenes at times especially with BtVS.

angelfire east
11-16-2005, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Because what you saw on episode was what they were going for. There is really no need to have them which is why they didn't have much as compared to SV which as a lot lol. There was just no need for it he basically said.

I can understand that:)

I still haven't seen half the exrats on the 4 seasons I have.

I watched the season 5 Angel gag reel, OMG DB is so funny:D I'll talk more about that in the Angel thread, my man I never soped laughing.

cayayofm
11-16-2005, 06:20 PM
Well, another thing that I would had loved was more gag reels, now, there should be alot of funny moments. I would had loved to see Sarah screwing an scenes since all you hear is how great she was, hey, joss said that she did not failed a word on the first take of the speech in Chosen. Overall error and bloopers are the order of the day in sets, we only ha in the last 3 seasons and they were extremly short.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-16-2005, 06:22 PM
Unaired Pilot would be a great addition in my mind.

yellowqueen22
11-16-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
One banner, two different verison: this time I'm happier with them in my last buffy banners
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelspikebanner.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/24thefast/angelandspikebanner.gif

Those are amazing... I LOVE them!!!

Summers
11-16-2005, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
Well, another thing that I would had loved was more gag reels, now, there should be alot of funny moments. I would had loved to see Sarah screwing an scenes since all you hear is how great she was, hey, joss said that she did not failed a word on the first take of the speech in Chosen. Overall error and bloopers are the order of the day in sets, we only ha in the last 3 seasons and they were extremly short.

Now that I would love to have. Give us the outtakes. Every show has them :D.

aqua
11-16-2005, 08:22 PM
I love Angel outtakes so much better than Buffy ones. I always get a kick out of watching them, especially the one in season three where Julie Benz is having contractions and starts cracking up. Gets me everytime.

Buffy outtakes kinda sorta really suck, IMO.

Summers
11-16-2005, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Unaired Pilot would be a great addition in my mind.

Oooo..good idea Derek. I love that one :D.


Originally posted by aqua
I love Angel outtakes so much better than Buffy ones. I always get a kick out of watching them, especially the one in season three where Julie Benz is having contractions and starts cracking up. Gets me everytime.

Buffy outtakes kinda sorta really suck, IMO.

Angel has the best outtakes. What we saw on the dvds I love BtVS S5 outtakes on S3 :lol:.

I love the outtakes they didn't use which was from "I Only Have Eyes For You" with Sarah and David.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-17-2005, 10:47 AM
If we do get a Box Set like this one for Angel. I'd really like to see the Unaired Pilot for the show as well.

Summers
11-17-2005, 11:13 AM
The Angel one is in the works as well, and cover art is out I think. it doesn't have an unaired pilot either.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-17-2005, 02:16 PM
Then the producers are still coping out on Extra Features.

We also need to see the Auditions.

Summers
11-17-2005, 02:40 PM
We only have Vincent and Amy's auditions :(.

I would love to see the BtVS Trio auditions.

BuZzArD 8012
11-17-2005, 03:10 PM
I was glad they put Vincents audition on there :D.

Summers
11-17-2005, 03:41 PM
Well, it went with S3 with Conner. But the other cast would've been nice to see.

angelfire east
11-17-2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Summers
We only have Vincent and Amy's auditions :(.

I would love to see the BtVS Trio auditions.

Yes at least there's those two:)

So would I!:D

BuZzArD 8012
11-17-2005, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Well, it went with S3 with Conner. But the other cast would've been nice to see.

That's true, I was just suprised that they had Vincent in part of the extras. He really isn't in alot of other things. So I was suprise to see him on there.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-17-2005, 05:21 PM
Here's an even bigger one: Joss commentary on every episode.

Summers
11-17-2005, 10:51 PM
Vincent was on a great deal of special features more than Michelle was on BtVS. S5 she was mostly one since she was so pivotal in that season.

BuZzArD 8012
11-18-2005, 11:30 AM
I believe he was in the gag reels and the audition. That was it, right?

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-18-2005, 02:08 PM
I know we had the audition tape with him as just a troubled youth, but don't remember the gag reels.

Summers
11-18-2005, 03:20 PM
I remember more Alexis in the S3 gag reels more than anyone.

aqua
11-18-2005, 03:21 PM
Sorry to break up the discussion, but has anyone seen a vid for "Amanda, the Vampire Slayer?" :rotfl: The credits are the funniest thing ever. :lol:

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-18-2005, 03:28 PM
I had it a while back.

I prefer my Faith the Vampire Slayer openings.

Summers
11-18-2005, 04:12 PM
I liked the Faith one :D.

yellowqueen22
11-18-2005, 04:23 PM
Buffy AVIs as per Mel's request...

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/yellowqueen22/Avatar-ChosenScythe.gif
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/yellowqueen22/Avatar-SpikeFireFool.gif

Summers
11-18-2005, 04:28 PM
*bows to Jennifer*

thank you so much Jennifer. I love them :).

angelfire east
11-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Love those avatars!!!! There great!

"Amanda, the Vampire Slayer?" who is she, I can't remember the name. I haven't see Amanda or Faiths, but they sounds interesting.

yellowqueen22
11-18-2005, 08:52 PM
Thanks!!!

I've never heard of it either... Amanda who???

aqua
11-18-2005, 09:10 PM
Well, I imagine Faith's was like serious, as if there was actually going to be a spin-off.

Do you remember Amanda? The dorky girl in help and the dorky potential that went to Buffy for guidance in "Potential?" That's her. :D Hehe. The notion of having a spin-off with her was just hilarious, and the credits had her and Kennedy, Vi, Andrew, and Dawn, the dorkiest Scoobies ever. Plus the last cast member is "The First as the wacky neighbor nextdoor." :lol: I couldn't stop laughing.

yellowqueen22
11-18-2005, 09:27 PM
Where did you find that???? That sound hillarious... it's not real is it??

aqua
11-18-2005, 09:32 PM
I'll PM you where to find it.

And, no, it's not real. :p

Summers
11-18-2005, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
Love those avatars!!!! There great!

"Amanda, the Vampire Slayer?" who is she, I can't remember the name. I haven't see Amanda or Faiths, but they sounds interesting.

She was in "Help" because she beat up her bully, and then appeared in "Potential" found out she was one. Then went on from there. She kicked nearly everyone's ass at Dungeons and Dragons, only one to say they were getting punished for kicking Buffy out, and died in "Chosen". She had long, straight brown hair.

angelfire east
11-18-2005, 09:50 PM
I remember her:D She beat up her bully, I loved Buffy's reactions to that:lol: I loved her in "Potential":D

Summers
11-18-2005, 10:24 PM
That scene when she is talking about the bully was funny.

I liked this one from "Potential" too:
AMANDA
Do people ever think you're weird?

BUFFY
Um, (flutters eyelashes, shrugs) I guess. Sure, in a charming, endearing, loveable... Yeah.


Everyone's weird in their own way :lol:

yellowqueen22
11-18-2005, 11:02 PM
Buffy's line there is such a me thing to say!

BuZzArD 8012
11-19-2005, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by yellowqueen22
Buffy AVIs as per Mel's request...

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/yellowqueen22/Avatar-ChosenScythe.gif
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/yellowqueen22/Avatar-SpikeFireFool.gif

Great avatars YQ :D. You beat me to it hehe.

cayayofm
11-19-2005, 09:42 AM
Yeah great Chosen avatar.

Talking about credits, do you all remember the Superstar Jonathan opening credits, they were very funny, well I remember when Storyteller aired that I read a great review and it said that the only thing that the episode was missing was an alternate opening credits from Andrew's point of view, now, that would had been cool , so bad they did not thinked about that or simply didn't had the time or money.

yellowqueen22
11-19-2005, 11:27 AM
I loved the alternate credits for Jonathan... they were amazing. While the idea of alternate credits for Storyteller is interesting... I'm actually happy they didn't do it. Mainly because even though he was the focus telling the story... he still focused his story on Buffy... therefor the credits wouldn't make sense. Whereas Jonathan actually changed the story to focus on him. What would have been cool is if they changed the credits to still be focused on the way Andrew filmed & saw the cast, and with him narrating or something. Ok... just read you response and maybe that's what you were getting at with "from Andrew's point of view"... I'm officially still half asleep.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-19-2005, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Summers
That scene when she is talking about the bully was funny.

I liked this one from "Potential" too:
AMANDA
Do people ever think you're weird?

BUFFY
Um, (flutters eyelashes, shrugs) I guess. Sure, in a charming, endearing, loveable... Yeah.


Everyone's weird in their own way :lol:

Love that quote :)

yellowqueen22
11-19-2005, 09:58 PM
I love it too!!!! It's such a me thing to say. I love my Buffy!!!

angelfire east
11-19-2005, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by yellowqueen22
I loved the alternate credits for Jonathan... they were amazing. While the idea of alternate credits for Storyteller is interesting... I'm actually happy they didn't do it. Mainly because even though he was the focus telling the story... he still focused his story on Buffy... therefor the credits wouldn't make sense. Whereas Jonathan actually changed the story to focus on him. What would have been cool is if they changed the credits to still be focused on the way Andrew filmed & saw the cast, and with him narrating or something. Ok... just read you response and maybe that's what you were getting at with "from Andrew's point of view"... I'm officially still half asleep.

I loved Jonathan's too:D The first time I saw it I just started watching Buffy and missed the intro so I was like WTF?! when I saw it:lol: (I was watching the show out of order again:lol:)

I love that quote too:D

I'm watching a moive called "Smiply Irresisble: with SMG. does anyone know when it was made?

cayayofm
11-20-2005, 05:49 AM
Simply Irresistible was released in 1999.

Summers
11-20-2005, 06:15 PM
I adore that quote. It's so relateable :lol:.

She did right after filming Cruel Intentions.

The "Superstar" credits were ingenius(sp?). I loved it, and people were "huh did we miss something". I loved how BtVS messed with the credits and end credits sometimes.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-20-2005, 07:02 PM
That episode caught me off guard but I still have a soft spot for it. Jonathon's grown on me in the long run.

Summers
11-20-2005, 07:33 PM
Xander: That is so cool

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-20-2005, 08:05 PM
Jonathon inventing the internet and starring in the Matrix!!!! lol

Summers
11-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Riley: Wait, the Matrix wasn't real either :lol:

Mysticlies
11-20-2005, 08:39 PM
thanks to aqua I just saw the (Amada the Vampire slayer) so funny:D. the "wacky next door neighbour" made me laugh:lol:

angelfire east
11-20-2005, 09:14 PM
Thanks cayayofm:)


Originally posted by Summers
I loved how BtVS messed with the credits and end credits sometimes.

They missed with the end creadits too? Which episodes? I totally missed whatever they did.

Summers
11-20-2005, 09:43 PM
oh, not really end credits but the "Grr..Arggh" demon at the end was always a festive demon :D. He was changed quite a few times. The only end credit was altered was the music for the Musical.

vyperman7
11-21-2005, 01:22 AM
Superstar is an awesome episode. One of the few episodes from season four that I truly enjoyed.


Originally posted by Summers
The "Superstar" credits were ingenius(sp?). I loved it, and people were "huh did we miss something". I loved how BtVS messed with the credits and end credits sometimes.

Mel,

That was one of my favorite parts of the episode. It was so freakin cool how they messed with the credits to include all these so called Johnathan moments.

Johnathan was da man... :D

By the way,

What did you think of Solitude? I looked for your review, and did not see one.

yellowqueen22
11-21-2005, 06:40 AM
I loved that they changed the end credits to having the moster sing his little opera heart out!!!! I love that Team Whedon wasn't afraid to mess with convention like that.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-21-2005, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by angelfire east
Thanks cayayofm:)



They missed with the end creadits too? Which episodes? I totally missed whatever they did.

Here's the ones that I can recall off the top of my head:

1) "Once More with a Feeling" as we've already discussed here.

2) "Chosen" - don't recall the variation.

3) "Amends" - I think he had a Santa cap on.

Okay, now I'm drawing a blank. Cue Mel.

Summers
11-21-2005, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by vyperman7

Mel,

That was one of my favorite parts of the episode. It was so freakin cool how they messed with the credits to include all these so called Johnathan moments.

Johnathan was da man... :D

By the way,

What did you think of Solitude? I looked for your review, and did not see one.

What I loved about the Jonathan credits is that the very end was a shout out to Angel's credits :lol:.

Frankly, I loved the episode (which makes over in the season four episodes I loved). It's just I was apprehensive to even post a review because well not many people liked the episode, and sometimes people can be kinda....well not polite :(. I was a cowardly lion basically which is very OOC for me.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Here's the ones that I can recall off the top of my head:

1) "Once More with a Feeling" as we've already discussed here.

2) "Chosen" - don't recall the variation.

3) "Amends" - I think he had a Santa cap on.

Okay, now I'm drawing a blank. Cue Mel.

Wow, I'm cued :lol:.

"Chosen" had the little demon turn his head and "argh" us. That was my avater was from two weeks ago.

"OMWF" Jennifer said. He sang "Grr..Argh" opera style :D.

'Amends" The Santa Cap

"Graduation Pt.2" He has Graduation Cap on his head

"Becoming Pt.2" He said "Aw..I Need A Hug"

"Storyteller" He sang "We Are Gods" :lol:

Fans (including me) would just wait until the end credits to see of the little demon did anything else new :rotfl:.

angelfire east
11-21-2005, 03:42 PM
Thanks for the info I'll check those out:D

cayayofm
11-22-2005, 08:05 PM
Talking about Superstar, I actaully did not enjoyed that much the episode, I think that the premise was interesting but I really did not liked the episode. A few weeks ago I felt the urge to watch Superstar, I don't know, wanted to see it again and did not enjoyed that much, but oh well, whatever.

Summers, that is weird about Solitude because all I have heard are great things about the episode, there is always negatives reviews but overall they were all very positive.

I saw the Chosen collection today, had it on my hands and is beautiful, I want it know!...

Did anyone read about that the release of Serenity on DVD can be pushed away because the copies might not be ready for next month?

Summers
11-22-2005, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm

Summers, that is weird about Solitude because all I have heard are great things about the episode, there is always negatives reviews but overall they were all very positive.

I saw the Chosen collection today, had it on my hands and is beautiful, I want it know!...

Did anyone read about that the release of Serenity on DVD can be pushed away because the copies might not be ready for next month?

Not on this board. The days it followed it was revered as "boring" :\. Many people didn't like it at all. It was more mixed which, in fact, surprised.

I saw it a store too. Over two hundred bucks :eek:.

I heard about the rumor. If it is pushed back, then I don't mind waiting because I want there to be more copies for everyone :).

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-22-2005, 08:27 PM
SERENITY being pushed back? Haven't heard anything about that, but I'm all for more copies. :)

Summers
11-22-2005, 08:31 PM
I'm going into my Economic mode for a second :lol:. Bare with me lol.

Being pushed back sure we might wait longer, however, look at this way:

We know the dvd sales incorporate into revenue/profit of the film---> which can be the breaking point of doing a sequel which we already know Joss had a plan B of making it into a trilogy----> being pushed back-----> makes more copies-----> more people buy-----> and perhaps a sequel :D

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-22-2005, 08:32 PM
Sequel. Sequel. Sequel.

cayayofm
11-22-2005, 08:38 PM
Well the first day I read great responses right now I can't find any..lol. I thought it was good, still think Splinter was better. I just felt like the Martha thing was rehearsed from season 2 and there was not actual threath since we know that they are waiting to the 100 episode to make their move, other than that was a great episode.

yeah, I saw it today and it was exactly $199.99, that considering that the individual box sets collection is over $300 is not a bad price.

I don't know the movie being pushed back is about company that is making the DVD have now to acomodate the movie to a shelude where there is not space for it.

Summers
11-22-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
Well the first day I read great responses right now i canpt find any..lol. I thought it was good, still think Splinter was better. I just felt like the Martha thing was rehearsed from season 2 and there was not actual threah since we know theay are waithing to the 100 episode to make theit move, other than that was a great episode.

yeah, I saw it today and it was exactly $199.99, that considering that the individual box sets collection is over $300 is not a bad price.

I don't know the movie being pushed back is about company that is making the DVD have now to acomodate the movie to a shelude where there is not space for it.

It's goes in waves lol. I know it got less responses in that forum compared to the "Splinter" forum. I know why the various reviews, but then we call wager why :lol:.

A lot of things were reherased from S2. I felt Jonathan's loft scene was very rehearse. Needless to say I kinda knew what he was going to say before he said it :lol:.

For a newbie yea very good, but hey the individuals are so pretty and they will just as rare. Kinda like VHS tapes of Star Wars :lol:.

It could be a mixture of both. I just know if there are more copies, then more happy consumers because more people buy dvds now than the movies these days.

cayayofm
11-22-2005, 08:53 PM
I feel that way about Smallville all the time, last year I felt like the football story was already taken care of. Now, this thing about Martha. The Clana, agian , I felt like we already went there and why it did not worked out, however all they ever did was get mooney eyes, since they were in a relationship for exactly one episode.

I love my individual boxes but if I had a lot of money i wolud not hesitate to buy the chosen collection.

Summers
11-22-2005, 08:54 PM
Ugh....brain freeze. Derek, had a name for this a while back. Oh, I wish I could remember it :lol:.

cayayofm
11-22-2005, 08:58 PM
I hope that they can keep the release date becasue Im just waiting for the movie to buy some CD's and DVD's from Amazon, Im just waiting for Serenity.


Originally posted by Summers
Ugh....brain freeze. Derek, had a name for this a while back. Oh, I wish I could remember it :lol:.
A name for what ?:confused:

Summers
11-22-2005, 09:11 PM
A name when SV just basically recycles storylines and writing devices over and over again.

cayayofm
11-22-2005, 09:15 PM
oh.. I think I read it, yeah ....im thinking.....jeje.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-22-2005, 09:21 PM
I can't honestly remember it and I came up with it.

Summers
11-22-2005, 09:39 PM
:rotfl:

ugh, it was over the summer too lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-23-2005, 08:44 AM
So long ago.

Summers
11-23-2005, 12:28 PM
In a galaxy far, far away.

k, now I'm channeling the Nerd Trio :lol:

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-23-2005, 12:34 PM
LMAO!

Summers
11-23-2005, 12:49 PM
omg, check this out. You can buy the Slayer Scythe if you have over 300 bucks though :lol: :(.
http://store.yahoo.com/timespacetoys/buprrescswst.html

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-23-2005, 12:57 PM
That looks GREAT!!!!

Summers
11-23-2005, 01:17 PM
It does. It's one of my favorite weapons :D.

For anyone check out this website here:
http://store.yahoo.com/timespacetoys/bufvamslay.html

It's has so much action figures, play sets, and 12" figures from the Buffyverse. It's wicked :D.

slave2moonlight
11-26-2005, 03:04 AM
Yay! I got the Darla action figure the other day at Suncoast on clearance! It's the exclusive one where she's in the bluish plaid skirt. Not the best likeness, but pretty cool none the less. I finally have a BTVS figure other than the two Buffy ones I have.

Summers
11-26-2005, 03:10 PM
Oh, BtVS S1 Darla nice choice ;).

I should be getting "Chosen" Buffy and "Lessons" Dawn in the mail next month. I'm very slowly building my collection.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 04:15 PM
I'm eagerly awaiting a Glory action figure.

Summers
11-26-2005, 04:16 PM
Have you guys seen the Angel doll from "Enemies" in BtVS S3? That looks amazing, and it a whopping $200 dollars :(.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 04:23 PM
Jaw drops. 200 bucks!

Summers
11-26-2005, 04:37 PM
Yup. They showed it at Comic-Con this summer along with the figures I had pre-ordered:
http://store.yahoo.com/timespacetoys/vaan12acfico.html

The next one I know I'm getting after the money stuff quites down after xmas and all is Angel from "Becoming Pt.2"
http://store.yahoo.com/timespacetoys/bufbecan12ac.html

cayayofm
11-26-2005, 05:03 PM
Those action figures are ridicuosly overprice.

Summers
11-26-2005, 05:15 PM
Not to be too technical, but I am :lol:. Those are 12" dolls not action figures which are 6". The 6" are actually quite low. I bought two 6" with only 30 bucks. Those 12" dolls that are $80 are actually quite right in the doll market price. They are collectible dolls with high price of demand. When the demand is high the prices are always high for it. Simple supply and demand model.

Not saying they aren't ridicuosly overpriced, but pointing the doll market and supply/demand. My 12" dolls for Star Wars were similar in price at times depending on the demand. Just how the market works.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 05:29 PM
I agree. Just the way the market is on those particular items. Helps that you can rarely find them in any stores as well.

cayayofm
11-26-2005, 05:32 PM
I understand that, but the Enemies Angel is too much money. Not to dish those who like collecting this things, but I don't like to buy this kind of products since they have no use. Hey, if people like to collect this things that is great, but I stick with DVD, magazines, books. Im just a practical person.;)

Summers
11-26-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I agree. Just the way the market is on those particular items. Helps that you can rarely find them in any stores as well.

Basically yea. I have Jedi Luke from Return of the Jedi, and you cannot find that in stores. It's rarity now, and I bought that doll........hmmm way back in 1999 I believe. It's a collectible, and rare.

Having them collectibles is another reason. The BtVS/AtS 12" dolls are very specific on the episode which is makes them collectibles even further. Not to mention it is from a show, and Barbie/Ken aren't dressed up as them. It's specially made. Hence a very high price from that variable.

It's an odd thing, and very expensive hobby.


Originally posted by cayayofm
I understand that, but the Enemies Angel is too much money. Not to dish those who like collecting this things, but I don't like to buy this knd of products since they have no use. Hey, if people like to collect this things that is great, but I stick with DVD, magazines, books.

It's also a Comic-Con exclusive which why it is so high as well. The Comic-Con exclusives are always that high. Dark Willow was last year's 200 bucks. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is not too much money. You would not see me buying it at all. The highest I go is the 80 bucks dolls.

Ironically, a couple people I know are labeling DVDs in the bracket of no use since there are so many of them and we really don't use them all the time. They just sit there making up more of a library.

We just live in the age where we can have expensive hobbies. Way back in the early to mid-1900s hobbies were non-existant unless you were the small elite class. Interesting how times changed lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 05:39 PM
I don't open any of the action figures I buy. Novels, magazines, and comics are another story.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Summers

Ironically, a couple people I know are labeling DVDs in the bracket of no use since there are so many of them and we really don't use them all the time. They just sit there making up more of a library.

I dis-agree with that strongly, I watch my DVDs over and over again, I'm always going through my entire collection, nothing gets missed.

Summers
11-26-2005, 05:44 PM
I have to open them because they won't fit on my shelves :(. I do keep them in excellent condition, and keep the boxes in case of moving or something.

Yea, novels/magazines/comics are something else lol.


Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
I dis-agree with that strongly, I watch my DVDs over and over again, I'm always going through my entire collection, nothing gets missed.

Every single movie and episode? Every single disc? How big is your collection? The bigger the collection harder it is.

I have a lot of dvds, and I honestly have to say I don't use or watch all of them. Some are there merely as collection to my library. People will just buy just to buy, and not watch. I seen it many times during the past five years. There was also an article about it a few years back noticing the trend.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Every single movie and episode? Every single disc?

I have a lot of dvds, and I honestly have to say I don't use or watch all of them. Some are there merely as collection to my library. People will just buy just to buy, and not watch. I seen it many times during the past five years. There was also an article about it a few years back.

Yep, I have quite a number of DVDs too and I do watch them all. I only buy movies & TV shows I will watch over and over.

cayayofm
11-26-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Summers



Ironically, a couple people I know are labeling DVDs in the bracket of no use since there are so many of them and we really don't use them all the time. They just sit there making up more of a library.



I don't particuary agree since the first reasons to buy DVD's is to watch them. I watch my Buffy's DVD regularly, probably once a week, so I give my DVD's a lot of use. This is why I particularly don't buy alot of movies, because it can go to that place but like I tell Im just a little practical.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 05:46 PM
I have all but one season and can't find the time to watch the seasons all the way through sometimes. So I'll choose random seasons and watch that way.

Summers
11-26-2005, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Yep, I have quite a number of DVDs too and I do watch them all. I only buy movies & TV shows I will watch over and over.

Like I said how much you would wager your collection is?

Not all people are like that. Some will buy just to buy as part of their collection. That's how it is in U.S. My friends' dvd libraries are huge, but they rarely watch the dvds except I would say ten in all.


Originally posted by cayayofm
I don't particuary agree since the first reasons to buy DVD's is to watch them. I watch my Buffy's DVD regularly, probably once a week, so I give my DVD's a lot of use. This is why I particularly don't buy alot of movies, because it can go to that place but like I tell Im just a little practical.

If you have a smaller collection, then the dvds will get far bigger watching usage. I was the same in the beginning until my collection widen quite a bit.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Like I said how much you would wager your collection is?

Not all people are like that. Some will buy just to buy as part of their collection. That's how it is in U.S. My friends' dvd libraries are huge, but they rarely watch the dvds except I would say ten in all.

Oh sorry missed that, this is roughly my collection :

Movies :
Austin Powers 1-3
Blue Streak
Blues Brothers 1 & 2000
Bounre Identity & Supremicy
Carry On Camping & Matron
Charlies Angels 1 & 2
Chopper
Darkman
Dirty Harry
Doctor who x2 (The 60's movies)
Dodgeball
Eraser
Eurotrip
Equlibrium
The Fast & The Furious
Galaxy Quest
Gone In 60 Seconds
Harry Potter 1 & 2
I-Spy
King Arthur
Little Nicky
Loser
The Lost Boys
The Matrix
Mortal Kombat 1 & Annihilation
Mystery Men
Never Say Never Again
The Nutty Professor 2
Pirates Of The Carribean
Police Academy
Predator
The Punisher
Resident Evil
Rush Hour 1 & 2
The Rutles
Scary Movie 1-3
School Of Rock
Shadow Skill
Shanghai Noon & Knights
Shrek
Spaceballs
Speed
Spiderman 2
Star Trek: Nemesis
Star Wars 1 & 3
Akira
X-Men 1.5
White Men Can't Jump

Tv Shows :
Smallville season's 1,2 & 4
Firefly the compelte series
The Office series 1 & 2 & the christmas specials
Pheonix Nights Series 1 & 2
Viva La Bam Sereis 1
Red Dwarf series 1-6
A bunch of Dr Who (old series) dvd's
That 70's show seasons 1 & 2
Young Ones series 1
Bottom series 1
Filthy, Rich & Catflap
The shield season 2
The thin blue line series 1 & 2
Only Fools & Horses series 1-6

And I'm always borrowing something of my brothers (He has a bigger collecion) and thats not counting my VHs stuff or the stuff I have on my computer.

cayayofm
11-26-2005, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Like I said how much you would wager your collection is?

Not all people are like that. Some will buy just to buy as part of their collection. That's how it is in U.S. My friends' dvd libraries are huge, but they rarely watch the dvds except I would say ten in all.



If you have a smaller collection, then the dvds will get far bigger watching usage. I was the same in the beginning until my collection widen quite a bit.

That depends some people like movies and like to collect them, wich is okay, and other just are compulsive buyers who get a fixation with an obect, in this case buy DVD's.

Summers
11-26-2005, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I have all but one season and can't find the time to watch the seasons all the way through sometimes. So I'll choose random seasons and watch that way.

I find for me the watching of seasons far easier than movies because one episode is just 40 minutes roughly.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 05:53 PM
Can pop in just about any movie and enjoy it. I've sat through Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 6 times already.

Summers
11-26-2005, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Oh sorry missed that, this is roughly my collection :

Movies :
Austin Powers 1-3
Blue Streak
Blues Brothers 1 & 2000
Bounre Identity & Supremicy
Carry On Camping & Matron
Charlies Angels 1 & 2
Chopper
Darkman
Dirty Harry
Doctor who x2 (The 60's movies)
Dodgeball
Eraser
Eurotrip
Equlibrium
The Fast & The Furious
Galaxy Quest
Gone In 60 Seconds
Harry Potter 1 & 2
I-Spy
King Arthur
Little Nicky
Loser
The Lost Boys
The Matrix
Mortal Kombat 1 & Annihilation
Mystery Men
Never Say Never Again
The Nutty Professor 2
Pirates Of The Carribean
Police Academy
Predator
The Punisher
Resident Evil
Rush Hour 1 & 2
The Rutles
Scary Movie 1-3
School Of Rock
Shadow Skill
Shanghai Noon & Knights
Shrek
Spaceballs
Speed
Spiderman 2
Star Trek: Nemesis
Star Wars 1 & 3
Akira
X-Men 1.5
White Men Can't Jump

Tv Shows :
Smallville season's 1,2 & 4
Firefly the compelte series
The Office series 1 & 2 & the christmas specials
Pheonix Nights Series 1 & 2
Viva La Bam Sereis 1
Red Dwarf series 1-6
A bunch of Dr Who (old series) dvd's
That 70's show seasons 1 & 2
Young Ones series 1
Bottom series 1
Filthy, Rich & Catflap
The shield season 2
The thin blue line series 1 & 2
Only Fools & Horses series 1-6

And I'm always borrowing something of my brothers (He has a bigger collecion) and thats not counting my VHs stuff or the stuff I have on my computer.

You have a bigger collection than I. That is for sure :lol:. When comparing the dolls and dvds seriously for me they are more collection purposes than not. I do only buy the things I love, but the dvds that are movies do just sit there unless I am in the mood for a particulary movie.


Originally posted by cayayofm
That depends some people like movies and like to collect them, wich is okay, and other just are compulsive buyers who get a fixation with an obect, in this case buy DVD's.

That's exactly what I'm pointing at. Think about I'm in California, and leave near the L.A. area. This type of buying is typical occurance, and the bigger collection basically shows status to a certain extent. Compulsive buyers have been part of the culture since post-WW2.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Oh sorry missed that, this is roughly my collection :

Movies :
Austin Powers 1-3
Blue Streak
Blues Brothers 1 & 2000
Bounre Identity & Supremicy
Carry On Camping & Matron
Charlies Angels 1 & 2
Chopper
Darkman
Dirty Harry
Doctor who x2 (The 60's movies)
Dodgeball
Eraser
Eurotrip
Equlibrium
The Fast & The Furious
Galaxy Quest
Gone In 60 Seconds
Harry Potter 1 & 2
I-Spy
King Arthur
Little Nicky
Loser
The Lost Boys
The Matrix
Mortal Kombat 1 & Annihilation
Mystery Men
Never Say Never Again
The Nutty Professor 2
Pirates Of The Carribean
Police Academy
Predator
The Punisher
Resident Evil
Rush Hour 1 & 2
The Rutles
Scary Movie 1-3
School Of Rock
Shadow Skill
Shanghai Noon & Knights
Shrek
Spaceballs
Speed
Spiderman 2
Star Trek: Nemesis
Star Wars 1 & 3
Akira
X-Men 1.5
White Men Can't Jump

Tv Shows :
Smallville season's 1,2 & 4
Firefly the compelte series
The Office series 1 & 2 & the christmas specials
Pheonix Nights Series 1 & 2
Viva La Bam Sereis 1
Red Dwarf series 1-6
A bunch of Dr Who (old series) dvd's
That 70's show seasons 1 & 2
Young Ones series 1
Bottom series 1
Filthy, Rich & Catflap
The shield season 2
The thin blue line series 1 & 2
Only Fools & Horses series 1-6

And I'm always borrowing something of my brothers (He has a bigger collecion) and thats not counting my VHs stuff or the stuff I have on my computer.

I can't even to begin to describe my collection. I have two rooms full and that's mixed with DVDs and videos plus movie tie-ins.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Summers
You have a bigger collection than I. That is for sure :lol:. When comparing the dolls and dvds seriously for me they are more collection purposes than not. I do only buy the things I love, but the dvds that are movies do just sit there unless I am in the mood for a particulary movie.

That lists a little out of date, a few things are missing from it like Red dwarf season 7 & hitchikkers guide to the galaxy.

I spent about ayear and a half jsut buying DVDs so thats probably why I have more :lol:. Yeah thats what my brothers collection is like that and I don't really get it, I mean you spend all that moneey on a DVD or VHS and then only watch it a few times? I don't think your getting your monies worth if you do that.

Summers
11-26-2005, 06:03 PM
Off the top of my head. My dvd collection is:

TV:
BtVS S1-S7
Angel S1-S5
Firefly
Lois and Clark S1
Superman: The Animated Series Vol. 1
Batman: The Animated Series Vol. 1 and 2
Smallville S1-S4
X-Men Evolution (2 sets)
Tales of Avonlea
Tales of Avonlea S1

Movies
Batman Begins
Superman: The Movie
Whole entire Star Wars saga (6 films)
Adventures in Babysitting
Final Destination
Legally Blonde
Titan A.E.
Final Destination
Cruel Intentions
She's All That
Boys and Girls
I Know What You Did Last Summer
Moulin Rouge
The Rocketeer
The 10th Kingdom
The Grudge
Harvard Man
Simply Irrestible
Head Over Heals
Scream Trilogy
Bend It Like Beckham


That's all I can think of off the top of my head without looking at my library.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I can't even to begin to describe my collection. I have two rooms full and that's mixed with DVDs and videos plus movie tie-ins.

Crap! Thats alot! I'm running out of space having about 3 shleves worth full with DVDs stacked on DVDs lol.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 06:04 PM
Depends on the mood I'm in. I'll pull out certain movies and watch them for weeks on end. My movies get constant play.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Off the top of my head. My dvd collection is:

TV:
BtVS S1-S7
Angel S1-S5
Firefly
Lois and Clark S1
Superman: The Animated Series Vol. 1
Batman: The Animated Series Vol. 1 and 2
Smallville S1-S4
X-Men Evolution (2 sets)
Tales of Avonlea
Tales of Avonlea S1

Movies
Batman Begins
Superman: The Movie
Whole entire Star Wars saga (6 films)
Adventures in Babysitting
Final Destination
Legally Blonde
Titan A.E.
Final Destination
Cruel Intentions
She's All That
Boys and Girls
I Know What You Did Last Summer
Moulin Rouge
The Rocketeer
The 10th Kingdom
The Grudge
Harvard Man
Simply Irrestible
Head Over Heals
Scream Trilogy
Bend It Like Beckham


That's all I can think of off the top of my head without looking at my library.

I'd sya you have more TV shows 'cause of the Buffy & Angel, I wish I could afford them but £30-60 a box set is too much imho, like Stargate or X-FIles.

Summers
11-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER

I spent about ayear and a half jsut buying DVDs so thats probably why I have more :lol:. Yeah thats what my brothers collection is like that and I don't really get it, I mean you spend all that moneey on a DVD or VHS and then only watch it a few times? I don't think your getting your monies worth if you do that.

The same thing happens with music. Only 20 bucks is nothing, and some dvds will go as low as 5 or 9 dollars. It's no big. It's just part of our culture now since the standard of living is high, and leizure/hobbies are more extreme.


Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
I'd sya you have more TV shows 'cause of the Buffy & Angel, I wish I could afford them but £30-60 a box set is too much imho, like Stargate or X-FIles.

So I guess we are equal to each other. I have more tv show seasons, and you have more movies.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Summers
The same thing happens with music. Only 20 bucks is nothing, and some dvds will go as low as 5 or 9 dollars. It's no big. It's just part of our culture now since the standard of living is high, and leizure/hobbies are more extreme.

I don't buy CDs so I wouldn't know, but whenever I'm on the computer I always have my mp3 playlist playing. Yeah, I bought a few of mine for about $8 roughly which was no big but I still watch them as much as the ones I paid more for.


Originally posted by Summers
So I guess we are equal to each other. I have more tv show seasons, and you have more movies.

Yep, & I'd probably rate Tv show season higher than movie seeing as they cost more.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 06:09 PM
CDs are a must in my mind especially when it comes down to writing. Need background music to get motivated sometimes. That and helps me keep the tone of the stories.

Summers
11-26-2005, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
I don't buy CDs so I wouldn't know, but whenever I'm on the computer I always have my mp3 playlist playing. Yeah, I bought a few of mine for about $8 roughly which was no big but I still watch them as much as the ones I paid more for.

Yep, & I'd probably rate Tv show season higher than movie seeing as they cost more.

I have an mp3 player too, but I don't buy that many cds as I use it unless I know I'm going to listen them all the way through. I'm actually far more careful on my music selections compared to my dvd collection. Just with tv seasons dvds I know I'll watch them more, so really don't buy a whole lot of movies which is why your movie is list is far bigger than mine.

Oh, I forgot to add:
Spiderman
Daredevil
X1 and X2
Dawn of the Dead

See, I don't use my dvds 24/7 because I seriously don't have time to use them all the time. Time is a big issue as well for me. Which is why some of them go more to collection until I have time to watch them. I do make time to watch at least two buffy episodes a week, and at least one movie. My friends and some of loved ones really don't bother on their dvd collection. They buy and watch it once, and that's it.

TV Shows I only buy if I saw the show already, and I loved it. I love Star Trek:TNG, but there is no way on this Earth I would buy a season of since it costs over 80 bucks :eek:.


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I can't even to begin to describe my collection. I have two rooms full and that's mixed with DVDs and videos plus movie tie-ins.

Two rooms? Bloody hell :eek:.

I just have two shelves.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 07:03 PM
Six shelves and most of my actual computer desk. My laptop is always in bed with me though.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I have an mp3 player too, but I don't buy that many cds as I use it unless I know I'm going to listen them all the way through. I'm actually far more careful on my music selections compared to my dvd collection. Just with tv seasons dvds I know I'll watch them more, so really don't buy a whole lot of movies which is why your movie is list is far bigger than mine.

Oh, I forgot to add:
Spiderman
Daredevil
X1 and X2
Dawn of the Dead

See, I don't use my dvds 24/7 because I seriously don't have time to use them all the time. Time is a big issue as well for me. Which is why some of them go more to collection until I have time to watch them. I do make time to watch at least two buffy episodes a week, and at least one movie. My friends and some of loved ones really don't bother on their dvd collection. They buy and watch it once, and that's it.

TV Shows I only buy if I saw the show already, and I loved it. I love Star Trek:TNG, but there is no way on this Earth I would buy a season of since it costs over 80 bucks :eek:.

Yeah, I'm different with music too, I have over 2500 songs on my playlist but I only listen to about 500 of them regulary. Yeah it is.

I hated spiderman, jsut thought I'd say that lol.

Yeah, well I have alot of free time so I could watch a few movies a day, I don't, I'm on the internet to do that (lol) but I could. Silly friends & Loved ones lol, jking, thats what my brothers like, he says he'll re-watch them once he's watched everything but he's always buying more and more or borrowing off of me :rolleyes:

I can see what you mean there, I might get some of the buffy box sets at/after christmas but I doubt it. I loved ST:TNG too and the box set prices are ridduclus, plus my brother has them recorded on VHS from when they were first on :lol:

Summers
11-26-2005, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Yeah, I'm different with music too, I have over 2500 songs on my playlist but I only listen to about 500 of them regulary. Yeah it is.

I hated spiderman, jsut thought I'd say that lol.

I can see what you mean there, I might get some of the buffy box sets at/after christmas but I doubt it. I loved ST:TNG too and the box set prices are ridduclus, plus my brother has them recorded on VHS from when they were first on :lol:

I have a cheap mp3. It only holds 60 songs which is just fine for me lol.

:lol: I loved it. I just skip the MJ parts.

It's just too expensive. We were very fortunate for the BtVS to hold some much for a less price :). X-Files is quite expensive as well.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I have a cheap mp3. It only holds 60 songs which is just fine for me lol.

:lol: I loved it. I just skip the MJ parts.

It's just too expensive. We were very fortunate for the BtVS to hold some much for a less price :). X-Files is quite expensive as well.

Mine are all on my computer, sorry if I didn't make that clear, I have about 10 gig worth fo music, I think I went a little mp3 crazty lol

I liked those parts jsut can't stand who plays Peter.

Yeah, X-Files is, again my brother has them but I'd still love them on DVD and call the my own.

I was thinking, do oyu know anywhere that has clips of buffy or angel episodes? I could try making avis out of thm if you do...

Summers
11-26-2005, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Mine are all on my computer, sorry if I didn't make that clear, I have about 10 gig worth fo music, I think I went a little mp3 crazty lol

I liked those parts jsut can't stand who plays Peter.

I was thinking, do oyu know anywhere that has clips of buffy or angel episodes? I could try making avis out of thm if you do...

Oh, d'oh. Now I get it :lol:.

Tobey? Really. I wish they made him more smarter in SP1, and had more Spidey humor.

I just know music videos that have the clips. Is that what you mean?

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Oh, d'oh. Now I get it :lol:.

Tobey? Really. I wish they made him more smarter in SP1, and had more Spidey humor.

I just know music videos that have the clips. Is that what you mean?

Okay lol.

Realy yeah the &^&%head really annoys me.

Anything with Bufy/Angel clips would do, if you know a site.

Summers
11-26-2005, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Okay lol.

Realy yeah the &^&%head really annoys me.

Anything with Bufy/Angel clips would do, if you know a site.

I'm just dense :lol:.

I can see it lol.

Cool :D. Here is a place:
http://www.buffyvids.com/
This is the index. You can find a season, characters, couples, and episode music videos. There is really a lot.

Can't wait to see the avis :D.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I'm just dense :lol:.

I can see it lol.

Cool :D. Here is a place:
http://www.buffyvids.com/
This is the index. You can find a season, characters, couples, and episode music videos. There is really a lot.

Can't wait to see the avis :D.

No your not :lol:

Yep

Thank you. I will lok through it now.

Shouldn't take to long to make them :D

Summers
11-26-2005, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
No your not :lol:

Yep

Thank you. I will lok through it now.

Shouldn't take to long to make them :D

No, seriously I am. At times my friends and love ones associate me with Dorie from Finding Nemo :lol:.

Don't rush and all. Take all the time you need :). Just happy to help some.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Summers
No, seriously I am. At times my friends and love ones associate me with Dorie from Finding Nemo :lol:.

Don't rush and all. Take all the time you need :). Just happy to help some.

I haven't seen finding nemo :lol: & I don't think you are.

I found a bunch of vids jsut gotta wait for a DVD rip to be done before I can watch them lol

Summers
11-26-2005, 08:54 PM
Technology is so fast these days :eek:.

Well, I got some news on Buffyverse expanded universe :D. Articles found on www.slayerverse.org
Whedon Comics!

Creator reveals upcoming comics

By Matthew Price
The Oklahoman

WORD BALLOONS

Fans of Joss Whedon, creator of "Buffy the Vampire
Slayer," will soon see more comic-book work from the
writer/director.

While Whedon is still working on the upcoming "Wonder
Woman" film, he recently mentioned projects with
Marvel and Dark Horse Comics.

In a post at fan site whedonesque.com, Whedon leaked
word of upcoming "Buffy" comics from Dark Horse.

"And now on to the rumors and allegations section.
Many of you want to know what the future holds.
Anxiety, hurricanes and Male Pattern Baldness. But
maybe also some art-stuff, which is really what you
guys are into," Whedon wrote.

"As I understand it, (the new Dark Horse comic) will
take place after the end of 'Buffy' and 'Angel' and be
canon in the Buffy world," Whedon wrote. "And I
understand it that way 'cause I'M WRITING IT. I'm
kicking off the book with a four-issue arc that finds
Buffy -- you guessed it -- living in Italy with The
Immortal."

Whedon also indicated more comics based on the
"Serenity" film were in the works.

"Brett (Matthews) and I are talking about another
three-part comic, and it's gonna be a hoot. Takes
place during the show and has some sweet character
deaths -- I mean moments!"

Marvel associate editor Nick Lowe talked about
Whedon's return to "Astonishing X-Men" at the recent
Wizard World: Texas show. "Astonishing X-Men" No. 13
is scheduled for a February release.

Artist John Cassaday remains the artist on the book.
Lowe indicated the Hellfire Club could return in the
new year of "Astonishing X-Men."

Furthermore, "Astonishing X-Men" vol. 2, collecting
issues 6-12 of the title, recently shipped from
Marvel.

Whedon also posted that rumors of a "Spike" movie
might turn into something more.

"The infamous Spike movie. Still haven't finalized
anything, but I feel that very soon I'll be able to go
to James (Marsters, who played Spike on 'Buffy the
Vampire Slayer') and say something a lot more
interesting than 'Wouldn't it be cool if ...'

"'Course, I just hope he's free some time this
decade."

I read in another snippnet interview the Buffy comics are going to start out as four issue set. Being Dark Horse you can expect a graphic novel version. It's more of a reminder I suppose.

2 new books: A Slayer's Diary & Blackout

Go Ask Malice : A Slayer's Diary (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) (Paperback)
by Robert Joseph Levy

Price: $9.99

Paperback: 256 pages
Publisher: Simon Spotlight Entertainment (June 27, 2006)
Language: English
ISBN: 1416915877


Blackout (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) (Paperback)
by Keith R.A. DeCandido

Paperback: 256 pages
Publisher: Simon Spotlight Entertainment (August 29, 2006)
Language: English
ISBN: 1416919171

According the Buffy magazine expect the new novels all in 2006. The only new BtVS books are non-fictional, academic novels right now.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 08:58 PM
Yes it is! Jsut wish the DVD rip would take less than 4 hours *Sigh*

I like the sound of those buffyverse comics & More serenity ones?! YAY!

Never read any of the novel even though my brother has some lol

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-26-2005, 08:59 PM
Can't wait!

Summers
11-26-2005, 09:25 PM
The Firefly comics aren't out in graphic novel yet :(. The continuation of Serenity I am lovin' :D.

Like I said in the Star Wars thread I love expanded universes :D.

Except all of them are out in 2006 :(.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 10:48 PM
There worth that wait Summers, I loved them.

That sucks, nothing whedonverse left this year then, I think.

Summers
11-26-2005, 10:58 PM
Nope. Nothing new only academic books, or novels people have not yet collected.

Which reminds me I need to get the Dark Willow trilogy.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 11:00 PM
Damn...

Theres a Dark willow trillogy? But wasnt she only dark for like 2 episodes?

Summers
11-26-2005, 11:07 PM
Hmm...third episodes "Villians", "Two To Go", and "Grave".

This trilogy is not really in novels timeline per sa. It's trilogy that is an "alternate" ending to S6. The expanded universe writers just really wanted to have fun, and explore the Dark Willow persona some more. It's an alternate version. Another alternate is "Seven Crows" which I hoped some parts of it was part of the original novel story.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-26-2005, 11:10 PM
Oh okay, that sounds interesting, just wish I didn't have so much to read might now or I might look for it lol.

I come bearing gifts lol.

(There pretty big files, so I'll leave the as links with the [ img ] [/ img ] tags)

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6494/buffyangel1100x1003gi.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/605/buffyangel2100x1008ca.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6391/buffyangel3100x1003xd.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/946/buffyangel4100x1002jp.gif

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5877/buffyangel5100x1007st.gif

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1483/buffyangel6100x1004es.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7000/buffyangel7100x1009ya.gif

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1395/buffyangel8100x1005ir.gif

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9528/buffyangel9100x1009ir.gif

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/804/buffyangel10100x1008as.gif

And thats just the tip of the iceberg ;)

Summers
11-27-2005, 02:36 PM
Ooooo...must be from the Bangel ship videos.

Those are excellent Alex. I love the gif that has Buffy/Angel kiss where the camera spins around them in "I Will Remember You", 'The Prom", and "Amends".

Thank you so much :D.

tip of the iceberg :eek:

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-27-2005, 04:13 PM
Awesome! "Amends" avi is my favorite!

Summers
11-27-2005, 04:23 PM
I really like the "Amends" and "I Will Remember You" ones. They would make awesome avis for another boards.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-27-2005, 05:56 PM
Thank you! Of course I don't know which ones your talking about :lol:

Yeah Summers they would but there probably too big for other boards :\

BuZzArD 8012
11-27-2005, 05:59 PM
Whoa! Thanks for the gifs Alex :D. I could try resizing some for all of you guys. If Alex doesn't mind.

Summers
11-27-2005, 06:14 PM
Wow, the files would be that big Alex :eek:.

John, you can resize those gifs even if they are that big?

TMLS' BROTHER
11-27-2005, 06:20 PM
I already have them 60x60 and under 20kb

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel10-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel9-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel8-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel7-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel5-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel6-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel4-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel3-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/buffyAngel2-60x60.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/BuffyAngel1-60x60.gif

BuZzArD 8012
11-27-2005, 06:28 PM
Oh ok. Thanks! Great job on them :).


Originally posted by Summers
Wow, the files would be that big Alex :eek:.

John, you can resize those gifs even if they are that big?

Yup, but Alex already did :).

TMLS' BROTHER
11-27-2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by BuZzArD 8012
Yup, but Alex already did :).

If you need a big gif of smallville or firefly for a avi BuZz I should be able to get it you, if you ever need one. All you have to do is ask :)

Summers
11-27-2005, 08:14 PM
Thanks Alex for making them avater size :D.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-27-2005, 08:15 PM
Welcome :).

I have more coming today/tomorrow.

Summers
11-27-2005, 08:18 PM
Really? Cool :). I wish there is some way to repay all of you( and rest of the avater makers) for making all these avaters.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-27-2005, 08:19 PM
Yep. I think people do re-pay us by using them :)

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-27-2005, 08:21 PM
Constantly hence my request avi that I'm using now.

Summers
11-27-2005, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Yep. I think people do re-pay us by using them :)

Oh lol. I just wanted to show how much we all appreciate all of the work you guys do :D.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-27-2005, 10:07 PM
I know & Thanks for that :D

New Buffy avis in my thread (Diff to the ones in here) and I was making more before my computer started acting like a *****

Summers
11-28-2005, 08:06 AM
Ooooo..I love them. You don't see many of the First as Joyce :).

BuZzArD 8012
11-28-2005, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
If you need a big gif of smallville or firefly for a avi BuZz I should be able to get it you, if you ever need one. All you have to do is ask :)

Thanks Alex :D. Appreciate it, I might need a few hehe.

cayayofm
11-28-2005, 03:48 PM
Alex I went to your site, you have some very nice Avatars.

BuZzArD 8012
11-28-2005, 03:50 PM
He shore does :D.

Summers
11-28-2005, 04:35 PM
Cayayofm, I love your new avi :).

I agree Alex has great avaters. As does John :). Both of you are very talented.

I found some new gifs/avaters courtesy of Photobucket search engine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thSpike1.gif

This one is neat
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thforfundeletesoonapril.gif

Another "Chosen" with Buffy's "Get out of my face". Just a different variation
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thChosen.gif

Now we don't get to see a lot fighting Buffy ones, so when I saw this I was very excited. This is from "Showtime" where Buffy and the Ubervamp duke it out for the second time, but the outcome this time is Buffy winning :D. However, this one may have to be brightened so I hope you guys can make it out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Avonela/thbuffy12.gif

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-28-2005, 04:58 PM
All great avis!

Summers
11-28-2005, 05:12 PM
Yea, I thought they were pretty cool.

cayayofm
11-28-2005, 05:21 PM
Thanks Summers, I love it too.....jejeje.

Those one that you have there are very cool, I like the Showtime one best.

Summers
11-28-2005, 05:25 PM
Me too lol. I love the "Showtime" one. You don't see many of those once "Chosen" aired :lol:.

cayayofm
11-28-2005, 05:31 PM
Actually the Showtime figth is one of my favorites in the show. I general I love the season 7 fights. The show in general had a more cinematic feeling and a better production. Visual effects, make up, stunts... all seemed to improve.

The Showtime fight and the Caleb vs Buffy in End of Days are among my top 10 fights in the show.

Summers
11-28-2005, 05:36 PM
Oh, I meant as a gif. You don't see many of the "Showtime" gifs anymore lol.

I love the "Showtime" fight. It was incredible, and very moveable throughout the whole "thunderdome" :). In the series itself the fights increasing got better, and when S5 hit the new stunt coordinater just made it better because street fighting and gymnastics was included in it.

Many seven fights are in my top ten as well :).

cayayofm
11-28-2005, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Oh, I meant as a gif. You don't see many of the "Showtime" gifs anymore lol.

I love the "Showtime" fight. It was incredible, and very moveable throughout the whole "thunderdome" :). In the series itself the fights increasing got better, and when S5 hit the new stunt coordinater just made it better because street fighting and gymnastics was included in it.

Many seven fights are in my top ten as well :).

I understood what you meant, it was my bad, the way I said it.

I thought than in general season 7 had a bigger production value than all the previous one. The make up that last year was incredible, don't know why they were not nominated again, the weapons, the sets. I was reading a while ago something about that there was alot of symbolisim too in season 7 , with the weapons, the way the bringer killed their victims, the seal of Danzalthar, Caleb, it was interesting.

I guess is natural that with the years the show gets better production wise, but that is not always the case. I thought that season 5 while improved the fights and stuns, I did not liked some of the sets, I thought the Glory Hotel was poorly done, and I found some visuals effects from season 4 more impresive.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-28-2005, 07:58 PM
I loved the final showdown with Glory and the construction site it was held at. It was like a big action movie fight and of course, we had the hammer return from earlier in the season.

Summers
11-28-2005, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm

I guess is natural that with the years the show gets better production wise, but that is not always the case. I thought that season 5 while improved the fights and stuns, I did not liked some of the sets, I thought the Glory Hotel was poorly done, and I found some visuals effects from season 4 more impresive.

UPN gave BtVS more money. Far much more money than WB ever did :rolleyes:. But I have to disagree to me every year the sets were awesome. I love S5 new fighting style of Buffy with her gymnastics, and emphasis on mental meditation. BtVS's visual effects never downsized in their S5 unlike Angel or SV's budget. SV and Angel are the only ones that were downsized in budget in their CGI not BtVS. BtVS's visual effects increasing got better and better over time. The portal in "The Gift" was without doubt amazely beautiful as was the dragon coming out of it while the destruction of Sunnydale.

The sets each year to me was amazing:
S1
-The Library
-Master's Lair
-Angel's apartment

S2:
-The Factory
-Angel's Mansion
-The expansion of the school
-the Summers' house

S3
-hello Sunnydale Main Street that included a theatre, shops, and the Empresso Pump :D
-the Hell set in "Anne"

S4
-the dorm room set far more expansive
-The Initive Set
-Riley's frat house
-US Sunnydale

S5
-awesome set of The Magic Box complete with a danger room :D
-expansion of the hospital set
-Xander's apartment
-Dawn's room decoration
-The Tower set
-the upgraded Bronze :D

S6
-Spike's crypt expansion

S7
-The new Sunnydale High :D
-the set of Hellmouth and the basement
-Caleb's vineyard
-the sewers where the Potentials were

Plus can't beat the location sets of the graveyards

All the seasons to me had a great inclusion to the series, and it just better and better.

S5 has one of my favorite fighting fights in "The Gift". So many things are happening at once from Willow to Spike to Xander. Plus how hard it was to have Clare and Sarah on those tower rafters was not easy. They had to do many things that focused on their upper body strength, and the fight was neat. We had the hammer, and them both struggling to get to the top first. It was incredible.

I also love the fight in "Into The Woods" where Buffy slayed all those vampires with one wooden stick :).

I just see the whole production process of BtVS increasely get better, better in sets, make-up, stunts, and etc. Joss labeled BtVS has his cast and crew's graduate school. That is what exactly what it was. They improved every year. I still am amazed how each year they increased on how the dusting of vampires appeared. First it was poof to actual facial expressions and ribs before a vampire was completely dusted. It's amazing process to read, and learn more about.

TMLS' BROTHER
11-29-2005, 02:16 AM
A few Buffy avis I found via the photobucket search, (Thanks summer for telling me about it :D)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/spuffy_sayow.jpg (haha)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/spuffy_oblivious.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/spuffy_duststare.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/Giles-Wizard-POSTED.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/btvs-spuffy04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/btvs048.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/btvs032.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/b-bunnies.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/xvintageflower/Avatars/0907487.jpg

All credit goes to the make of these :)

These 60x60 and some others

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy13.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy12.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy11.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy10.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy9.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy8.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy7.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy6.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy5.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy4.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy3.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy2.gif http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/DoctorWho517/Buffy1.gif

I don't like how some of those came out, but it's probably because some are still image avis with writing that you can't see when they are shrunk to k-sites reg/s :\

Summers
11-29-2005, 08:00 AM
Ah, man the school computer I am at is giving me restricted access :(. Ugh, I hate when that happens. I guess I'm going to have to wait until after work.

Thank you so much Alex :).

I see a lot of Spuffy in the URL :D.

atrufan14
11-29-2005, 10:52 AM
Love the icons ALex - these people sure are talented!

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-29-2005, 11:04 AM
All of them are so great!

Summers
11-29-2005, 11:24 AM
I can't see them. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: I think I just channeled by kindegarden class lol.

BuZzArD 8012
11-29-2005, 11:52 AM
Whoa! Awesome avys Alex :D.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Summers
UPN gave BtVS more money. Far much more money than WB ever did :rolleyes:. But I have to disagree to me every year the sets were awesome. I love S5 new fighting style of Buffy with her gymnastics, and emphasis on mental meditation. BtVS's visual effects never downsized in their S5 unlike Angel or SV's budget. SV and Angel are the only ones that were downsized in budget in their CGI not BtVS. BtVS's visual effects increasing got better and better over time. The portal in "The Gift" was without doubt amazely beautiful as was the dragon coming out of it while the destruction of Sunnydale.


S5 has one of my favorite fighting fights in "The Gift". So many things are happening at once from Willow to Spike to Xander. Plus how hard it was to have Clare and Sarah on those tower rafters was not easy. They had to do many things that focused on their upper body strength, and the fight was neat. We had the hammer, and them both struggling to get to the top first. It was incredible.


Don't get me wrong, I actualy think that the show improved a lot of things in season 5. There are some sets that I love like The Magic Box, wich somehow looks diffrerent in season 6, probably more dark but I prefer it in season 5. The Gift had outstanding visuals, is just here and there that I felt like they did better in previous years like the snake in Shadow, horrible effect, this was their third CGI snake on the show, they should had known by now how bad they look. I thought that the efffects in Thought Love were poor too, the mirrow, breaking, the knives, the little snake all looked very CGI. About the sets it's just the Glory Hotel room that bothers me, that is the only set on the show that just takes me out from what is happening on the screen, I thought it looked bad, plain, fake, just like a TV set.

Summers
11-29-2005, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
Don't get me wrong, I actualy think that the show improved a lot of things in season 5. There are some sets that I love like The Magic Box, wich somehow looks diffrerent in season 6, probably more dark but I prefer it in season 5. The Gift had outstanding visuals, is just here and there that I felt like they did better in previous years like the snake in Shadow, horrible effect, this was their third CGI snake on the show, they should had known by now how bad they look. I thought that the efffects in Thought Love were poor too, the mirrow, breaking, the knives, the little snake all looked very CGI. About the sets it's just the Glory Hotel room that bothers me, that is the only set on the show that just takes me out from what is happening on the screen, I thought it looked bad, plain, fake, just like a TV set.

The difference in the Magic Box was the lightening. In all of the sets the lighting was a darker tone to convey the mood of the season in S6.

The Mayor Snake was awesome CGI effect. The problem with "Shadow" snake is that it switched from CGI to actual fake looking snake. It wasn't the CGI. It was the actual fake snake of itself when Buffy was punching it. There first snake in "Band Candy" was their first CGI creature. You know how much a cost of dusting a vampire was....it was $5,000 dollars per dusting. They had small money as it was in throughout it's time on the WB.

I loved "Tough Love" CGI. They had very little money to work with, and an upcoming "The Gift" episode full with:
-destruction of Sunnydale
-dragon
-and a portal
All things that stayed on the episode for more than five minutes. That was major bucks in that episode. You have to wager in less money from the WB, and money had to be saved for the finale. Given that the CGI was excellent. My loved ones, and people online loved the CGI and effects in "Tough Love".

Futhermore, the CGI is now very old now. BtVS was one of the very few shows to use CGI on a regular basis. It was a learning experience, and it showed many other shows in what ways they can use it. It's groundbreaking.

It's sets. Unless it's a movie set your going to have makeshift sets on tv lol. It looked like a hotel room. A vast hotel room with a nice looking tub. It looked fine to me.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-29-2005, 01:34 PM
I'm with you, Mel. Every set on the show has been very realistic as opposed to many of the shows on TV (sitcoms are the worse example of it).

Summers
11-29-2005, 01:37 PM
I agree. TV sitcoms have the worst sets of all tv. BtVS was one of the few shows at the time concerned about making really nice sets, and you can tell they spent time and money on them.

Caleb's vineyard is still one of the most expensive sets the show had.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 02:19 PM
I love Caleb's vineyard.

I understand all you posted above about the CGI and overall the show did very good with visual effects. However you are one of the few peope that I have heard said that the Mayor snake in season 3 looked great, it does not bothers me, but the most I have read about it is that it was bad.

I don't know about the Glory Hotel room, it just bothers me.

Actually I admire the show for all it production values and expecially the sets. Buffy was a show that took chances and featured new sets every year, on the other hand Smallville have the same sets since season 1. They only introduced this year the class room, Lana and Chloe's dorm room and Chloe's work place, and only because they had to get rid of High School, I mean Lex place is a mansion yet Lex spents all his time in that room. I will love to see more of the mansion and so on.

slave2moonlight
11-29-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Oh, BtVS S1 Darla nice choice ;).

I should be getting "Chosen" Buffy and "Lessons" Dawn in the mail next month. I'm very slowly building my collection.

Wow, I don't get to check up on Kryptonsite but maybe once a week, so I always fall way behind. Anyways, yeah, my collection is building up really slowly too. At some point, I got trained so well in buying toys only on clearance that I only very rarely pay full price anymore. Of course, when I can manage a larger income, I'm sure that will change, ha. But, if I find something reasonably priced at regular price, or if I want it enough, I'll go ahead and get it if I can afford to.

I'm dying to get some Dawn figures! And, someday I need to go on Ebay and pick up some of the other characters I've missed. I'd like a Willow from season one, and all the basic characters really. Suncoast at our mall has Fred from Angel right now, and I badly want that one!

Someone said something about being more into buying DVDs and stuff like that because it's more practical. My "spare" cash (not that I really have such a thing) tends to be split between toys and DVDs 50/50. Maybe slightly more towards DVDs lately. Still, I think if one really analyzes it, DVDs, books (fiction ones at least), toys, etc... are all the same. They're art/entertainment. Toys are sorta like buying a painting, or a poster or copy of one anyway. They're mass produced, often affordable works of art, sculptures to be more specific. They're often just decoration, purely for aesthetics, but that's actually a legitimate purpose for collecting them. Personally, I'm a Disney fanatic mainly, Star Wars and Indiana Jones close behind, but I'm into so many different movies and cartoons that I have a really diverse collection. My other most recent toy purchases were the 9 inch Starfire from the Teen Titans animated series and a figure of Marshall Willenholly from "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back."


Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
I'm eagerly awaiting a Glory action figure.

Ah, I wouldn't mind one of those myself. ;) Aside from the action figures though, what I really want to get is the Angel puppet from the show's final season!

Summers
11-29-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
I love Caleb's vineyard.

I understand all you posted above about the CGI and overall the show did very good with visual effects. However you are one of the few peope that I have heard said that the Mayor snake in season 3 looked great, it does not bothers me, but the most I have read about it is that it was bad.

Actually I admire the show for all it production values and expecially the sets. Buffy was a show that took chances and featured new sets every year, on the other hand Smallville have the same sets since season 1. They only introduced this year the class room, Lana and Chloe's dorm room and Chloe's work place, and only because they had to get rid of High School, I mean Lex place is a mansion yet Lex spents all his time in that room. I will love to see more of the mansion and so on.

The most I read at the time, and in many boards now the Mayor Snake is one of the most loved CGI shots. It was well received. The one from "Shadow" was the not well received. Put it in context I saw The Mayor Snake when it first aired in 1999. The transformation was great, and looked fantastic going through the Sunnydale High. It was incredible in 1999, and groundbreaking CGI for tv shows. That's why I love it. But I am not one of the few. It really was/is well received.

When talking about fanbases you have to remember the bias of each message board. I always went to the most objective ones, but I also went to the popular ones as well. Each message board carries some type of bias/leaning on many things.

S5 the extra set of the FoS. Smallville mostly concentrated on the hospital set of the show, and for some odd reason AlMiles love expanding it more and more :confused:. SV has the bigger budget of any show on the WB because of DC comics connection, but I never enjoyed the fact they have a lot money but they expanded only on the hospital. You would think they would want to expand more of Lex's mansion, or include Chloe's house or something. They really weren't as versatile with their sets. There is no development, or progression on those sets. It just makes the show look more stagnate.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Summers
The most I read at the time, and in many boards now the Mayor Snake is one of the most loved CGI shots. It was well received. The one from "Shadow" was the not well received. Put it in context I saw The Mayor Snake when it first aired in 1999. The transformation was great, and looked fantastic going through the Sunnydale High. It was incredible in 1999, and groundbreaking CGI for tv shows. That's why I love it. But I am not one of the few. It really was/is well received.

When talking about fanbases you have to remember the bias of each message board. I always went to the most objective ones, but I also went to the popular ones as well. Each message board carries some type of bias/leaning on many things.

S5 the extra set of the FoS. Smallville mostly concentrated on the hospital set of the show, and for some odd reason AlMiles love expanding it more and more :confused:. SV has the bigger budget of any show on the WB because of DC comics connection, but I never enjoyed the fact they have a lot money but they expanded only on the hospital. You would think they would want to expand more of Lex's mansion, or include Chloe's house or something. They really weren't as versatile with their sets. There is no development, or progression on those sets. It just makes the show look more stagnate.

Well that could be, I actually watched Graduation Day on the original airdate at the WB, I thought it looked great and the effects still looks great for me, but I have read some not as positive.

I forgot about the Fortress, they actually are expanding this year, but still Im afraid they will stay with that sets until the end. Smallville problems are not budget ones, but is that they not even try. I had seen alot of scenes where I think why that scene was there? in that set?

aqua
11-29-2005, 03:39 PM
I agree completely with Mel. (shock, eh? :lol: )

I don't know, cayayofm, if you watched Buffy when it originally aired but the snake was so amazing because I had never seen that sort of CGI on any show. It was amazing. Even now, while, sure, you may say it's obviously CGI, I don't notice. I love it and think it's a great effect.

The snake in "Shadow" wasn't good only because of the fake prop snake. CGI was fine to me.

I loved Glory's hotel room. IMO, it was supposed to look really big, vast, and tacky, which it was to me. It was enormous with obnoxious colors.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by aqua
I agree completely with Mel. (shock, eh? :lol: )

I don't know, cayayofm, if you watched Buffy when it originally aired but the snake was so amazing because I had never seen that sort of CGI on any show. It was amazing. Even now, while, sure, you may say it's obviously CGI, I don't notice. I love it and think it's a great effect.

The snake in "Shadow" wasn't good only because of the fake prop snake. CGI was fine to me.

I loved Glory's hotel room. IMO, it was supposed to look really big, vast, and tacky, which it was to me. It was enormous with obnoxious colors.

The CGI in Shadow is bad too, when Buffy is in top of the snake and they show us the whole picture you can easily see that the snake and Sarah are CGI.

Maybe that is why I don't like about Glory's room.:\

Summers
11-29-2005, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
Well that could be, I actually watched Graduation Day on the original airdate at the WB, I thought it looked great and the effects still looks great for me, but I have read some not as positive.

I forgot about the Fortress, they actually are expanding this year, but still Im afraid they will stay with that sets until the end. Smallville problems are not budget ones, but is that they not even try. I had seen alot of scenes where I think why that scene was there? in that set?

If you are reading things now I wouldn't be surprised (depending on the board) there not so well received. If they are newbies to the universe, then I wouldn't be surprised if they are comparing 1999 CGI to 2005 CGI which is just lame. Over time technology becomes better and better over time. Big difference, but for it's time it was excellent. There will be a time when SV CGI (before the budget of S5) will look outdated :eek:.

Hmm..I think it is a combo of trying, or simply feel why do they need to expand. I just know AlMiles loves that hospital set.


Originally posted by aqua
I agree completely with Mel. (shock, eh? :lol: )

I don't know, cayayofm, if you watched Buffy when it originally aired but the snake was so amazing because I had never seen that sort of CGI on any show. It was amazing. Even now, while, sure, you may say it's obviously CGI, I don't notice. I love it and think it's a great effect.

The snake in "Shadow" wasn't good only because of the fake prop snake. CGI was fine to me.

I loved Glory's hotel room. IMO, it was supposed to look really big, vast, and tacky, which it was to me. It was enormous with obnoxious colors.

Whoa...no way :eek: :lol:

Nor have I. I never seen a transformation like that one tv. Plus I noticed that year BtVS CGI staff was getting better at their transformation when Angel would vamp out, or Oz morphing into the werewolf in "Beauty and the Beasts". That Oz morph is still one of my favorites "times up rules change".

I understand why they used the fake snake at the end, but gee it was lame looking lol.

Yea, Glory was constantly referenced as being somewhat tacky :lol:. It just so fit Glory's character to a tee. That's why I was fine with it. If Glory was in a sewer, then I would be worried :lol:.

Summers
11-29-2005, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
The CGI in Shadow is bad too, when Buffy is in top of the snake and they show us the whole picture you can easily see that the snake and Sarah are CGI.

Maybe that is why I don't like about Glory's room.:\

Uh, actually that is actually Sarah. BtVS wouldn't have enough money to make a CGI person unless it is for finale purposes only. What she is on is the fake snake CGI over since they need a distance camera shot. That isn't really the pure CGI snake. The pure CGI snake was before Buffy got to it.

That could be why :\.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Summers
If you are reading things now I wouldn't be surprised (depending on the board) there not so well received. If they are newbies to the universe, then I wouldn't be surprised if they are comparing 1999 CGI to 2005 CGI which is just lame. Over time technology becomes better and better over time. Big difference, but for it's time it was excellent. There will be a time when SV CGI (before the budget of S5) will look outdated :eek:.

Hmm..I think it is a combo of trying, or simply feel why do they need to expand. I just know AlMiles loves that hospital set.

Nor have I. I never seen a transformation like that one tv. Plus I noticed that year BtVS CGI staff was getting better at their transformation when Angel would vamp out, or Oz morphing into the werewolf in "Beauty and the Beasts". That Oz morph is still one of my favorites "times up rules change".



No the discussions are not from now but from 3 or 4 years ago. I think that the show got better every year in every aspect of production. I just have those tiny complains, but overall the show got better and pretty quickly, I mean look at season 1 to season 2 and you will see how much they improved (of course they had a bigger budget, but still).

What I won't forgive is Fox for not cleaning up the picture quality of season 2 for DVD. That is a great season not just for Buffy, but grounbreaking pieces of TV. It just gets me how a movie from 1939 ( the wizard of oz) have a better picture quality than a show in 1997, I mean no matter how cleaned up they get a movie the diference in years is a lot.


Originally posted by Summers
Uh, actually that is actually Sarah. BtVS wouldn't have enough money to make a CGI person unless it is for finale purposes only. What she is on is the fake snake CGI over since they need a distance camera shot. That isn't really the pure CGI snake. The pure CGI snake was before Buffy got to it.

That could be why :\.

There are certain scenes from the away shots in wich Buffy is on top, there are moments where Buffy is completly CGI, very quickly.

Summers
11-29-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
No the discussions are not from now but from 3 or 4 years ago. I think that the show got better every year in every aspect of production. I just have those tiny complains, but overall the show got better and pretty quickly, I mean look at season 1 to season 2 and you will see how much they improved (of course they had a bigger budget, but still).

What I won't forgive is Fox for not cleaning up the picture quality of season 2 for DVD. That is a great season not just for Buffy, but grounbreaking pieces of TV. It just gets me how a movie from 1939 ( the wizard of oz) have a better picture quality than a show in 1997, I mean no matter how cleaned up they get a movie the diference in years is a lot.

Than that is still a big difference in years. It's been three years since BtVS went off the air. That is 1999 to 2002. Still a big difference in years in CGI technologically thanks to Lucasfilms, LoTR company CGI, and Matrix CGI. That's a huge difference in years. That's the time when the CGI department boomed. Still, very lame even for 3/4 years ago :lol:. That's comparing S3 CGI to S7 CGI which itself not fair comparisons. S7 they were all well into transformations, and CGI take plus a bigger CGI budget due to UPN. Sorry, but whoever said those statements I'm assuming they didn't look at the big picture perspective of it all. Or just plain have high expectations.

S2 They did have a bigger budget than S1. S1 is the lowest budget of all the series. Joss didn't call it a graduate school for all his employees for nothing :lol:.

S1 & S2 used a different film compared to S3-S7. They used a cheaper film quality to lessen the burden on the other departments in budget. Plus it's a tv show. It's not going to be remastered at all especially at the time of the first release. BtVS (like always) was one of the first tv shows that were released in dvd format, and one of the reasons tv shows on dvd trend got started :D.


Originally posted by cayayofm

There are certain scenes from the away shots in wich Buffy is on top, there are moments where Buffy is completly CGI, very quickly.

Sorry, but I read interviews by the CGI team and they said that wasn't a CGI Sarah. I'm going off them, and what they said. The first CGI person was The Mayor in S3.

If it is a CGI Sarah, then I still don't know what the big deal is. The CGI to me was great with the snake in "Shadow". It looked fine to me. I don't have any nitpicks about it as compared to the very noticeable bad CGI on Clark's heat vision.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Summers


S1 & S2 used a different film compared to S3-S7. They used a cheaper film quality to lessen the burden on the other departments in budget. Plus it's a tv show. It's not going to be remastered at all especially at the time of the first release. BtVS (like always) was one of the first tv shows that were released in dvd format, and one of the reasons tv shows on dvd trend got started :D.



I understand the camera thing about the first 2 seasons and the rest of the show, still somehow season 2 heve a lesser picture quality in my eye than season 1. I can dream about a future in wich Fox re release Buffy season 2 remasterized...lol.:)

Summers
11-29-2005, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by cayayofm
I understand the camera thing about the first 2 seasons and the rest of the show, still somehow season 2 heve a lesser picture quality in my eye than season 1. I can dream about a future in wich Fox re release Buffy season 2 remasterized...lol.:)

I don't know why since S1 & S2 used the same film :confused:. Maybe it's all your perception :lol:.

That's a long wait from now lol.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I don't know why since S1 & S2 used the same film :confused:. Maybe it's all your perception :lol:.

That's a long wait from now lol.

I know, Im weird that way, it just that im very picky about the things that I love. However somehow, I see season 1 brighter than season 2, I find the color of season 2 off. Other shows like Sex and the city had the 16mm film stock in the first 2 seasons and look better than Buffy.

aqua
11-29-2005, 04:50 PM
I LOVED season one and two's film quality.. I loved the graininess and it loved much more raw and dramatic. In season three, I was disappointed when I saw they had upgraded. Call me crazy! :lol:

Summers
11-29-2005, 04:56 PM
Maybe your thinking of the lighting of the sets :confused:. Joss did comment for dark seasons he wanted the lighting to be darker especially on the darker content episodes.

Sex and the City is scene more in the daylight though, and will carry a different tone in lighting since it is a comedy show. A comedy shows are rarely seen in darker tones.


Originally posted by aqua
I LOVED season one and two's film quality.. I loved the graininess and it loved much more raw and dramatic. In season three, I was disappointed when I saw they had upgraded. Call me crazy! :lol:

Your not crazy ;). Many people loved that film in the first two seasons compared to the upgrades.

For me the film quality I have no inkling about lol. I just noticed and observed. I love both of the film qualities :\.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 05:02 PM
No is not the lighting, I found the image lacking color, like im watching a show from the 80's. However the last couple of episodes look a little better.

How can someone not like a better quality?...lol

Summers
11-29-2005, 05:27 PM
I don't know. There is no difference in film quality in S1 or S2. They are completely the same. Maybe it really is your perception. I saw no variation at all with the first two seasons.

Better quality doesn't mean the less quality is crap. It's just a technological improvements. Some just like the past time is all.

cayayofm
11-29-2005, 05:45 PM
I don't mean like is crap, is just unusual that some will preffer an image that does not look as clear and vibrant as the new one.

Summers
11-29-2005, 08:32 PM
I don't think it is unusual. Some people liked that quality, and to me it was clear. I seriously didn't see anything wrong with the first two seasons film. The newer film just seemed more in detail, and contrast with color better is all. Older film gets also a sense of quality of the feature.

Whatever floats your boat :lol:.

aqua
11-30-2005, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by cayayofm
I don't mean like is crap, is just unusual that some will preffer an image that does not look as clear and vibrant as the new one.

I could see clear and I didn't want it vibrant. I liked it so dark. Fit the tone of the show, especially season two.

cayayofm
11-30-2005, 06:01 AM
I can uderstand that, that is why Basin Robbin have 31 flavors....bad analogy...lol

My brother like to do some blends and graphics he made Buffy's ones and I told him that they were good. Each one have the same theme of the DVD box set.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/cayayofm/buffy1wall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/cayayofm/buffy2wall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/cayayofm/buffy3wall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/cayayofm/buffy4wall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/cayayofm/buffy5wall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/cayayofm/buffy6wall.jpg

Summers
11-30-2005, 10:31 AM
Man, I hate restricted access at my work :(. I can't see the pics right now.

BuZzArD 8012
11-30-2005, 11:49 AM
Those are awesome Cayayofm! Your brother did a great job on them.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-30-2005, 01:12 PM
The images those wallpapers blur into my mind are of a naughty slayer with a certain other slayer lol.

Summers
11-30-2005, 03:24 PM
Derek's thinking Fluffy :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-30-2005, 04:37 PM
"How do you like my Darkness now?" completely conjures images of Faith in my mind.

Summers
11-30-2005, 04:54 PM
I just think of the First Slayer :lol:.

LexLuthorMetropolis
11-30-2005, 05:34 PM
Just must be my dirty mind lol.

angelfire east
12-01-2005, 01:09 PM
Just shamelessly pimping my new avatar:D Made by the wonderful John http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/smallvilefan2005/hug.gif

Summers
12-01-2005, 04:30 PM
Aww.....the core Scoobies :D.

Great avi Becki, and great job on making it John.

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86 STEAMBATH -- BILL BIXBY & VALERIE PERRINE IN THE NUDE, SLIPPED BY
CENSORS (5/4/73)

85 2003 VMAS THREE-WAY KISS: MADONNA, BRITNEY, & CHRISTINA.
(8/28/03)

84 THE DATING GAME PAUL LYNDE IS BACHELOR #1. CONTESTANT: "I'VE JUST
GIVEN YOU BACHELOR #2. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH HIM?" LYNDE:
"GO DANCING!" (6/1/68)

83 THE SURREAL LIFE TELEVANGELIST TAMMY FAYE MEETS PORN STAR RON
JEREMY. (1/11/04)

82 MATCH GAME PANEL REVOLTS: STOPS THE SHOW WHEN THEY DON'T AGREE
WITH JUDGES. LEGENDARY "SCHOOL RIOT." (7/8/77)

81 DUKES OF HAZZARD COUSINS "COY" AND "VANCE" REPLACE ORIGINAL "BO"
AND "LUKE" AFTER CONTRACT DISPUTE. (9/24/82)

80 AMERICAN IDOL WILLIAM HUNG'S "SHE BANGS" (1/27/04)

79 20/20 STOSSEL SLAPPED BY WWF CHAMP 'DR. D'. WRESTLER BANNED,
STOSSEL COLLECTS. (2/21/85)

78 SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE LORNE MICHAELS OFFERS $3000 TO BEATLES FOR
REUNION. (4/24/76)

77 FAMILY FEUD FRED BAEDEKER BOMBS OUT ON THE BIG BOARD WITH INSANE
ANSWERS. (8/9/76)

76 1977 SCIENCE FICTION FILM AWARDS HOST WILLIAM SHATNER SINGS
"ROCKET MAN." (1/21/78)

75 1994 VMAS MICHAEL JACKSON AND BRIDE LISA MARIE PRESLEY "KISS."
(9/8/94)

74 '01 INAUGURAL BUSH DANCES WITH RICKY MARTIN. (01/18/01)

73 MARRIED ... WITH CHILDREN BUNDY'S ADOPT NEPHEW, WHO PROMPTLY
DISAPPEARS. MONTHS LATER, PICTURE APPEARS ON MILK CARTON. (4/24/94)

72 HARDBALL BLUE DOG DEMOCRAT ZELL MILLER CONFRONTS CHRIS MATTHEWS
DURING THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION IN NEW YORK CITY.
(9/1/04)

71 MARY HARTMAN, MARY HARTMAN DROWNING BY CHICKEN SOUP. (3/4/76)

70 NEWLYWEDS: NICK & JESSICA JESSICA SIMPSON'S "CHICKEN BY THE SEA"
MOMENT. IS IT CHICKEN OR FISH? (8/19/03)

69 '00 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION, LOS ANGELES AL KISSES TIPPER.
(8/17/2000)

68 THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW ROB OPENS CLOSET DOOR; WALNUTS AND LAURA
SPILL OUT. (2/6/63)

67 THE MIKE DOUGLAS SHOW -- JOHN LENNON & YOKO ONO CO-HOST. MUSICAL
GUEST CHUCK BERRY PLAYS "JOHNNY B. GOODE," ACCOMPANIED BY WAILING
ONO. (2/16/72)

66 FELICITY THE HAIRCUT. (10/3/99) - USING ONLY STILLS AND NEWS
FOOTAGE

65 GET CHRISTIE LOVE! IN THE ORIGINAL MOVIE OF THE WEEK,
CHRISTIE POSES AS HOOKER, CALLED "N*****." "NO, N***** LOVER."
(1/22/74)

64 THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW PHYLLIS'S BROTHER IS GAY. (1/13/73)

63 2005 MASTERS TOURNAMENT TIGER WOODS' TRULY AMAZING SHOT.
(4/10/05)

62 EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND MARIE'S VAGINA SCULPTURE. (10/22/01)

61 DYNASTY THE MOLDAVIA MASSACRE. (5/15/85)

60 THE LARRY SANDERS SHOW AFTER AN OVERLY-FRIENDLY ENCOUNTER, LARRY
QUESTIONS DAVID DUCHOVNY'S SEXUALITY IN THE EPISODE "EVERYBODY
LOVES LARRY." (11/13/96)

59 THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL THE LEGENDARY CBS GALACTIC
SPECTACULAR. (11/17/78) PHOTOS ONLY

58 FRIENDS AT ROSS'S WEDDING IN LONDON, MONICA AND CHANDLER IN BED.
(5/7/98)

57 HERE'S LUCY JACKIE GLEASON'S SURPRISE CAMEO AS RALPH KRAMDEN IN
EPISODE #2, "LUCY VISITS JACK BENNY." (9/30/68)

56 SOPRANOS "LONG TERM PARKING": ADRIANNA GETS WHACKED. (5/23/04)

55 JIMMY SWAGGART TELECAST SWAGGART TEARFULLY CONFESSES TO ADULTERY
BEFORE A NATIONAL AUDIENCE. "I HAVE SINNED AGAINST YOU AND I BEG
YOUR FORGIVENESS!" (2/21/88)

54 WHAT'S MY LINE A BLINDFOLDED FRANK SINATRA IS ONE OF THE
PANELISTS WHEN MIA FARROW, HIS NEW BRIDE, IS INTRODUCED AS MYSTERY
GUEST. (11/27/66)

53 COP ROCK STEPHEN BOCHCO'S MUSICAL SALUTE. (9/26/90)

52 TEXAS AT CLEVELAND JOSE CANSECO'S INFAMOUS "HEAD-BALL" HOMER.
(5/26/93)

51 DINAH! ANDY KAUFMAN AS "TONY CLIFTON" SAYS BULL****. (9/19/79)

50 PASSWORD JACK BENNY GIVES CLUE "ME" TO PASSWORD "MISER" (5/29/62)

49 I MARRIED DORA FINAL EPISODE ACKNOWLEDGES SHOW'S DEMISE: "IT'S
BEEN CANCELLED." "WHAT, THE FLIGHT?" "NO, THE SERIES." (12/18/87)

48 DIANA ROSS - CONCERT IN CENTRAL PARK STORM RAGES, FANS RAMPAGE,
LIVE. (7/21/83)

47 MORTON DOWNEY JR. SHOW AL SHARPTON/ROY INNIS FIST FIGHT AT THE
APOLLO. (8/30/88)

46 '68 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION, CHICAGO RIOTS; MAYOR RICHARD
DALEY MOUTHS OBSCENITIES. (8/29/68)

45 LATE NIGHT WITH DAVID LETTERMAN SONNY AND CHER: "I'VE GOT YOU
BABE." (11/13/87)

44 BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER MUSICAL EPISODE "ONCE MORE WITH FEELING"
HAS TOWNSFOLK REVEALING THEIR INNERMOST THOUGHTS-IN SONG. (11/6/01)

43 MTV TOWN HALL MEETING - 17 YEAR-OLD LAETITIA THOMPSON FAMOUSLY ASKS
PRESIDENT CLINTON, "BOXERS OR BRIEFS?" (4/19/94)

42 '92 VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE PEROT RUNNING MATE ADMIRAL JAMES
STOCKDALE ASKS, "WHO AM I? WHY AM I HERE?" (10/13/92)

41 SURVIVOR RICHARD HATCH SLITHERS HIS WAY TO THE MILLION - IN THE
NUDE. (7/5/2000)

40 THE JERRY LEWIS TELETHON TELETHON SHOCKER! AFTER TWENTY-YEAR
FEUD, JERRY LEWIS AND DEAN MARTIN REUNITED BY FRANK SINATRA.
(9/6/76)

39 TWIN PEAKS FIRST APPEARANCE OF THE DANCING DWARF. (4/19/90)

38 GIMME A BREAK! JOEY LAWRENCE APPEARS IN BLACKFACE AT NELL'S
CHURCH BENEFIT. (12/8/84)

37 THE STEVE ALLEN SHOW - ELVIS SINGS TO HOUND DOG (7/1/56)

36 THE WEST WING LEO NOMINATED FOR V.P. (MONTHS AFTER MASSIVE HEART-
ATTACK). (4/6/05)

35 VMAS DIANA ROSS GRAB'S LIL' KIM'S BOOB. (9/9/99)

34 '72 OSCARS SACHEEN LITTLEFEATHER ACCEPTS FOR MARLON BRANDO.
(3/27/73) - PHOTOS

33 MELROSE PLACE KIMBERLY PULLS OFF WIG. (4/27/94)

32 24 IN FIRST SEASON FINALE, JACK'S WIFE KILLED AS CLOCK RUNS DOWN.
(5/21/02)

31 WKRP IN CINCINNATI LIVE TURKEYS DROPPED FROM COPTER. (10/30/78)

30 THE TONIGHT SHOW STARRING JOHNNY CARSON ED AMES AND THE TOMAHAWK
CHOP. (4/29/65)

29 '84 SUMMER OLYMPICS, LOS ANGELES MARY DECKER/ZOLA BUDD BUMP IN
3000 METER RUN. DECKER DECKED, BUDD BLAMED. (8/10/84)

28 STAR TREK "THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER" - JOAN COLLINS.
(4/6/67)

27 THIRTYSOMETHING GAY COUPLE IN BED. (11/7/89)

26 '68 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION, CHICAGO RIOTS; WILLIAM F.
BUCKLEY BATTLES GORE VIDAL. (8/28/68)

25 LAW & ORDER WHEN ASSISTANT DA SERENA SOUTHERLYN IS FIRED BY HER
BOSS, SHE SHOCKS BOTH HIM AND THE AUDIENCE WITH HER REVELATION, IN
THE FORM OF A QUESTION: "IS IT BECAUSE I'M A LESBIAN?" (1/12/05)

24 THE LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN DREW BARRYMORE'S TOPLESS
BIRTHDAY SALUTE. (4/12/95)

23 SURVIVOR MICHAEL SKUPIN BURNED, MEDIVAC'D. (3/1/01)

22 '88 VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BENTSEN TO QUAYLE:
" ... AND SENATOR, YOU'RE NO JACK KENNEDY." (10/5/88)

21 CBS EVENING NEWS WITH WALTER CRONKITE - WALTER CRONKITE PRONOUNCES
THE VIETNAM WAR A STALEMATE. (2/27/68)

20 SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE BARBARA STREISAND CRASHES COFFEE TALK.
(2/22/92)

19 THE PRICE IS RIGHT YOLANDA BOWERSLEY COMES ON DOWN, FALLS OUT OF
TOP. (9/14/77)

18 SIX FEET UNDER NATE DIES (7/31/05)

17 OAKLAND AT PITTSBURGH "IMMACULATE RECEPTION" CONSIDERED GREATEST
PLAY IN NFL HISTORY. (12/23/72)

16 CAL/STANFORD BIG GAME WILD ENDING, BAND ON FIELD. (11/20/82)

This is all from yahoo. Here is the top 15:

15 M*A*S*H RADAR ANNOUNCES COL. BLAKE'S DEATH. (3/18/75)

14 THE DICK CAVETT SHOW GEORGIA GOVERNOR LESTER MADDOX WALKS OFF.
(12/18/70)

13 1996 SUMMER OLYMPICS MUHAMMAD ALI MAKES A SURPRISE APPEARANCE WITH
THE OLYMPIC TORCH. (7/19/96)

12 ER HELICOPTER BLADE RIPS OFF ROMANO'S ARM; SEASON LATER,
HELICOPTER FALLS FROM ROOF, FINISHING HIM OFF. (9/26/02, 11/20/03)

11 NIGHTLINE AL CAMPANIS CLAIMS BLACKS "LACK THE NECESSITIES" FOR
BASEBALL MANAGEMENT. (4/6/87)

10 ST. ELSEWHERE FINALE: ENTIRE SERIES IMAGINED BY AUTISTIC CHILD.
(5/25/88)

9 '94 WINTER OLYMPICS, LILLEHAMMER TONYA HARDING/NANCY KERRIGAN
SCANDAL CULMINATES WITH TONYA PLEADING TEARFULLY TO JUDGES ABOUT A
BROKEN SHOELACE. (2/25/94)

8 SEINFELD GEORGE'S FIANCEE LICKS CHEAP ENVELOPES, DIES. (5/16/96)

7 CAMPAIGN '04 DEAN SCREAM. (1/19/04)

6 THE "HEIDI-BOWL" NBC PREEMPTS FINAL 1:05 OF JETS-RAIDERS GAME
WITH MOVIE "HEIDI". TWO TOUCHDOWNS WENT UNSEEN BY IRATE FANS.
(11/17/68)

5 THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS COMEDY HOUR THE WHO GOES UP IN FLAMES FOR
"MY GENERATION" WHEN KEITH MOON OVERLOADS EXPLOSIVES IN HIS DRUMS.
THREE INJURED. (9/17/67)

4 SUPER BOWL '04 JANET JACKSON'S "WARDROBE MALFUNCTION" (2/1/04)

3 DALLAS BOBBY EWING ALIVE, SEASON NINE A DREAM. (5/16/86)

2 WBA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TYSON V. HOLYFIELD. MAN BITES EAR
STORY. (6/28/97)

1 NEWHART SERIES FINALE (5/21/90)

From Yahoo

I'm a little perturbed. Newhart was number one last year, and the finale really wasn't that great. It basically made the whole series not real. Plus personally, I would have Kimberly from Melrose Place blew up the apartment complex rather than pulling off the wig.

cayayofm
12-01-2005, 07:36 PM
Well, I don't know about Newhart, I was too young in 1990, but it's great that OMWF is on the list. Buffy the Vampire Slayer in general was one of the most unexpected TV moments. Nobody thought that the show based on a movie flop with a silly premise was going to be one of the best show to gross TV.

Summers
12-01-2005, 08:19 PM
Well, OMWF was unexpected because a tv show musical was never successful. It was a laughable notion, and quite campy. Joss took it to serious tone to it, and made it flow with the show's characters. Hence, unexpected milestone :D.

LexLuthorMetropolis
12-02-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
Just shamelessly pimping my new avatar:D Made by the wonderful John http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/smallvilefan2005/hug.gif

Like the new avi!

angelfire east
12-02-2005, 03:56 PM
Thanks Mel and Derrk:D

I really wish I've seen that episode, still I'm hoping to buy the season5 or 6 buffy DVD with x-mas and b-day money.

LexLuthorMetropolis
12-02-2005, 04:08 PM
Both great seasons. Then again every one of them is in their own right.

angelfire east
12-02-2005, 05:44 PM
yes they are, there the seasons I Space skipped most of the episodes in too:mad: And the there only too I'm missing so I'm dying to see them.

LexLuthorMetropolis
12-02-2005, 06:05 PM
That stinks missing two episodes. I hate networks for doing stuff like that. Just seems rather odd.

cayayofm
12-02-2005, 07:37 PM
I tried to see the avatar twice but the link goes to a animation of two happy faces hugging. is that it?

angelfire east
12-02-2005, 07:59 PM
oh no, it's the avatar I'm using, the animation of two happy faces hugging is for John to say thanks:)

BuZzArD 8012
12-03-2005, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by angelfire east
Just shamelessly pimping my new avatar:D Made by the wonderful John http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/smallvilefan2005/hug.gif

Hehe, nice avy ;).

Thanks Mel :D.


Originally posted by angelfire east
oh no, it's the avatar I'm using, the animation of two happy faces hugging is for John to say thanks:)

Aww, thanks Becki :D.

cayayofm
12-03-2005, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by angelfire east
oh no, it's the avatar I'm using, the animation of two happy faces hugging is for John to say thanks:)

ohhhh, I see.

TMLS' BROTHER
12-04-2005, 04:14 AM
I don't know if anyone's posted this, but it's a pic of a new moive Alyson's in:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8381/datemovie16wh4pu.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=datemovie16wh4pu.jpg)

Sh'es doing a spoof of Kill Bill in the pic.

BuZzArD 8012
12-04-2005, 07:41 AM
I've seen that at slayerverse. Really funny though, I want to see it when it comes out.

LexLuthorMetropolis
12-05-2005, 09:57 AM
For those of you who were wondering what happened to OZ THE SERIES, I've got a stand alone story in mind for OZ that should be up within the next month or so.

BuZzArD 8012
12-05-2005, 11:48 AM
Thanks for the update! Looking forward to it.

Summers
12-05-2005, 01:59 PM
As always me too. Are Riley and Mel still in it?

LexLuthorMetropolis
12-05-2005, 02:26 PM
It's a solo story that connects the series.

Summers
12-05-2005, 03:15 PM
Okay. Just wanted to get the feeling of the premise lol.

Analysing Buffy the series!
There is a new book, which analyses the whole series, season by season and how it could become such a long-running show.
http://www.slayerverse.org/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=28131

I would want to read this book :)

TV Guides Frosty favourites - Amends

TV guide has compiled a list of holiday favourites on TV. Buffy episode 'Amends' made the list!

"When you've had about all you can take of shopping, there is nothing like sitting down in front of the TV and watching some of your favorite holiday TV specials and episodes. So we recommend that you either rent or check listings for these favorites, perfect for curling up on the couch with your family and a cup of cocoa.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Season 3, "Amends")

Not your typical holiday fare, but this touching episode highlights the tormented relationship of Buffy and Angel while bringing in the haunting ghostly themes from stories like A Christmas Carol. As the holidays approach and Buffy and her pals plan their celebrations, Angel is being plagued by nightmares and visions of Jenny Calendar (or a possessed version of her), whom he killed the previous year. Convinced that he will never be able to escape his demon side and that he'll always be a danger to those he cares about, the vampire with a soul heads to a mountain to commit suicide (of sorts) by sunlight. Buffy vainly tries to convince him that he is worthy of staying alive, but he refuses to budge as daybreak nears. But miraculously, it begins to snow for the first time ever in Sunnydale, providing a sun-free Christmas and extending Angel's existence on earth.

Source: TV Guide
http://www.slayerverse.org/tanet/net_buffy_us/index.php?navi=news.php&id=28135

Awww...one of my all time favorite episodes. Which is a xmas tradition to watch every year in Dec. :D

Thanks to Derek ;)

Sarah Michelle Gellar - "The Grudge 2" Movie - She Returns for The Grudge 2

From Comingsoon.net - By Webmaster - 2005-12-5

The Grudge and The Grudge 2 screenwriter Stephen Susco tells Dread Central that Sarah Michelle Gellar will reprise her role of Karen Davis in the sequel.

Talking from Japan, Susco revealed that "SMG is back. Without giving anything away, we’ve all been pretty focused on making a sequel that has a strong raison d’etre - a second chapter to an evolving story, instead of a sequel that’s made just because the first one performed well."

The follow-up starts filming on January 20th with Takashi Shimizu back in the director’s chair. Columbia Pictures will release the Ghost House Pictures project on October 20, 2006. Stay tuned to GhostHousePictures.com for more on the sequel.
http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=12793

k, so she just finished Southland Tales and Revolver is still in post-production. Including The Grudge 2 Sarah has four movies still in pre-production process right now. Damn, she is busy :lol:.