I just realized something....

[nafeasonto]

If Hiro corrected Ando to get together with his current girlfriend, that means Ando may of not been on adventure with Hiro, and may not have a power now. Hmmm....

[Syn]

I think the universe has a sort of "course correcting" going on with minor details... Like it'll try and make events happen as closely to the original as possible.

[shanemak]

If Hiro corrected Ando to get together with his current girlfriend, that means Ando may of not been on adventure with Hiro, and may not have a power now. Hmmm....

Yea the writers corrected themselves once again. I mean, it was established in the season 3 premiere that if you mess with any aspect of time it will cause a ripple effect. Next, they might even bring that douchebag Arthur back.

[RedPhoenix23]

I hate Arthur. He killed my heroes husband Kensei, lol. Didn't even make sense since he jacked Peter's powers away like 10 minutes later - thus gaining the heal ability that way anyways. If Arthur just wanted to be healed STAT - all he had to do was jack some of Adam's blood - we saw how it healed Nathan and Claires blood brought Noah back from the dead after all. I'm sure he would be willing given the alternative! :eek:

[haydenclaireheroes]

I do not think he has his powers but we will just have to wait and see.

[shanemak]

I hate Arthur. He killed my heroes husband Kensei, lol. Didn't even make sense since he jacked Peter's powers away like 10 minutes later - thus gaining the heal ability that way anyways. If Arthur just wanted to be healed STAT - all he had to do was jack some of Adam's blood - we saw how it healed Nathan and Claires blood brought Noah back from the dead after all. I'm sure he would be willing given the alternative! :eek:

I think the writers' have a bit of buyer's remorse- for bringing back Arthur in the first place. The ratings seriously fell, and alot were dissapointed in the way he stole Peter's powers. I'm not so certain that Adam was killed, someone on here came up with a theory that Maury *might* have made an illusion, in turn made Arthur see Adam turn to dust, when in reality Adam survived, albiet powerless, but still alive, and high tailed it outtathere.

[RedPhoenix23]

I think the writers' have a bit of buyer's remorse- for bringing back Arthur in the first place. The ratings seriously fell, and alot were dissapointed in the way he stole Peter's powers. I'm not so certain that Adam was killed, someone on here came up with a theory that Maury *might* have made an illusion, in turn made Arthur see Adam turn to dust, when in reality Adam survived, albiet powerless, but still alive, and high tailed it outtathere.

*bows*

Thank you, thank you. I made that theory back in the old ep thread for that episode. Didn't bring up the fact that Adam was powerless though so maybe that was a revamped version u heard. :D

Adam was a breath of fresh air when he came back in season three and when he left, it just felt like he sucked the life out of the show with him. Awww. It also made me begin to flat hate guest stars because what's the point? Not when the pattern is TPTB would off them so harshly after putting sooooo much effort and screentime in building them up to just go... oh.. nevermind... bullcrap!

[CompanyMan]

I think the writers' have a bit of buyer's remorse- for bringing back Arthur in the first place. The ratings seriously fell, and alot were dissapointed in the way he stole Peter's powers. I'm not so certain that Adam was killed, someone on here came up with a theory that Maury *might* have made an illusion, in turn made Arthur see Adam turn to dust, when in reality Adam survived, albiet powerless, but still alive, and high tailed it outtathere.

Don't forget that we, as viewers, also saw Adam turn to dust.

The camera angle was from behind the foot of the bed. If it was supposed to be an illusion for Aurthur's sake, the camera angle would (or should) have been from Aurthur's viewpoint. And don't forget, the guy was 400 years old. Without his ability he probably would have age-progressed rapidly anyway.

[shanemak]

Don't forget that we, as viewers, also saw Adam turn to dust.

Well when Nathan and Daphne seen Linderman, it wasn't until later that the viewers saw that they were illusions created by Maury. Who's to say that in a future episode, the writers' will show that it was an illusion created by Maury?


The camera angle was from behind the foot of the bed. If it was supposed to be an illusion for Aurthur's sake, the camera angle would (or should) have been from Aurthur's viewpoint. And don't forget, the guy was 400 years old. Without his ability he probably would have age-progressed rapidly anyway.

I don't know. I would think if he lost his ability, he would then age like a normal person. I mean Angela said that once the cells regenerate so much, the body stops aging. So since Adam was 42 when he figured out he couldn't age, when he lost the rapid cell generation ability, he *should* still be 42 and age from there.

The camera angle means alot, I admit, but the writers' change storylines as they see fit. If they could use Adam for a future story, they will re-write his plot.

[RedPhoenix23]

Don't forget that we, as viewers, also saw Adam turn to dust.

The camera angle was from behind the foot of the bed. If it was supposed to be an illusion for Aurthur's sake, the camera angle would (or should) have been from Aurthur's viewpoint. And don't forget, the guy was 400 years old. Without his ability he probably would have age-progressed rapidly anyway.

Not really. This show has gotten so bad with it's story telling. They don't plan anything out anymore and just seem to wing it. So if they wanted to bring Adam back, they would, it's that simple and my theory would be the best explaination as to how. Even if the camera angles were screwy... which I don't think they were, lol. So there! :p

[Joe Key]

To be fair, "Fugitives" started to get back, a bit, to a more thought out storyline. They still make plenty of mistakes (hated the Sylar as Nathan bit, but thats just me...), but theyre cutting back on the bad parts, like Future characters showing up.

I did like Adam, even though he wasnt around very long, and looking back id like to see him again. But id be more upset if the writers just came up with some unbelievable way for him to not be dead...

I wonder too if Ando lost his powers now, hmm.

[CompanyMan]

I think a better and easier way to do it would be to use Claire's blood. It would be a lot less controversial, and easy enough to do. The guy may be ashes, but the DNA is still there.

[RedPhoenix23]

If they ain't using Claire's blood on Nathan, then I doubt they'd use it on Adam/Kensei.

[CompanyMan]

Well, I don't know. I don't read spoilers, so I don't know what will happen with Nathan's body in future episodes. I only know that a certain baseball player once said, "It ain't over 'til it's over."

[RedPhoenix23]

I haven't been keeping up on the spoilers so I don't know either but they HAD their chance to heal Nathan right at the end of season three. It'd be too much of a cop-out to do it now. Makes all this Sylar/Nathan crap USELESS. Well... yeah.. I still think it is though regardless of how/if they bring Nathan back fully, lol.

[CompanyMan]

I'm anticipating that they will do something. It seems pretty obvious that sooner or later Sylar will have to wake up from Matt's whammy and realize who he is. And Peter, if no one else, will realize that Nathan just ain't who he used to be. I can't see them getting rid of Nathan. Or maybe I just don't want Nathan to leave the show. So the only obvious choice I can see is bringing Nathan back to life.

[RedPhoenix23]

Which is why it's stupid to suffer this storyline in the first place, lol. Noah of all peeps knows the advantages of Claires blood. Hell, the didn't even NEED to use Claires blood, Sylar was right there in front of them and had her ability afterall. They should have at least TRIED before going straight to the ridiculesness of making Sylar think he's Nathan for reals.

[CompanyMan]

I agree 100%. It was WAY out of character for them not to use Claire's blood. So she suffers a bit of shock to find out her bio dad is dead. She lived through Noah's death and revival, she would be able to get over Nathan's death quickly once he is revived. I don't know what they were thinking...

[RedPhoenix23]

Exactly. And if worse came to worst then Peter could have just kept the shapeshifter ability and talked to the pres about being wrong about hunting peeps down - so that even doubles the fact that making Sylar be Nathan is silly.

[kp1984]

I would have love to see how Adam interact with Claire or even sylar.

[RedPhoenix23]

I know! They totally missed the boat on that one.

[shanemak]

I would have love to see how Adam interact with Claire or even sylar.

Hell yea. I would love to see how Claire reacts when she *knows* someone with her ability is immortal and actually HAS lived 400 years. Now she knows that she can't die, but to actually get iron clad proof positive.

I am kinda shocked though that pa Patrelli didn't jack Sylar of his abilities. He had plenty of chances.

[kp1984]

Hell yea. I would love to see how Claire reacts when she *knows* someone with her ability is immortal and actually HAS lived 400 years. Now she knows that she can't die, but to actually get iron clad proof positive.

I am kinda shocked though that pa Patrelli didn't jack Sylar of his abilities. He had plenty of chances.

I'm sure if the Hatian would'nt have been thier he would have did something to Sylar mind making him think the lie detector was ture when it said he was his father. He might be good right now if he still thought he was a patrelli.

[RedPhoenix23]

Pa Petrelli probably didn't want "The Hunger" that Sylar had.... another dumb concept, lol. I liked it better when Sylar killed peeps just cuz he flat out wanted to and convinced himself it was alright because he was some kind of predator and this was survival of the fittest and all that jazz that he sang in season one.

But with Peter's ability, he likely had Sylar's ability that way - just not full on without it being "activiated" or something like future goody two shoes Sylar taught Peter to do.

[CompanyMan]

Pa Petrelli probably didn't want "The Hunger" that Sylar had....

While I agree with you, I also think because he didn't have the hunger, he didn't feel the need to have every ability that was out there. It seems that only once did Arthur take an ability out of need, and that was when he took Adam's. All other abilities he took from people who were not on his side. I personally think he did not so much take the abilities because he could use them, but to neutralize his opponent (or potential opponent). The usefulness of having the abilities were just a side benefit.