The Pronoun Game

[xrayvision]

Is the same actor who played Lex in the Reunion flashbacks playing Alexander next week?

[skully]

Can they be lifted with 1 hand? Or fit in a closed fit?

Can they be used as weapons or would that be a bizarre way to use them?

Are they functional or decorative? Colorful?

Are they alive or non-living? Or were they once alive?

Do any mains or guests own them?

Are they expensive? Are they alien?

Are they made of metal, wood, plastic, rubber, glass, paper, stone/mineral, ceramic, cardboard, clay/mud, gem, porcelain, fabric, liquid, or some non-mentioned type of organic material/substance?Singularly they can be lifted in one hand but more than one would be difficult. They would not fit in a closed fist.

They are unlikely to be used as weapons. It would be bizarre to use them as such.

They can be functional but not decorative.

They are not colorful.

They are a living thing.

One version is owned by a main.

They are not expensive or alien.

They are not any of those substance but are organic.


Are the mentioners mains or guests? If mains, are they current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?
If guests, are they SEG or RG? >2, <5? M/F? ever main? alive? incarcerated? comatose? human? powers? Clark's age?
They are mentioned (in no particular order) by:
A former main, MS, M, was a guest, dead, non-bearded, human, a bit older than Clark.
A current main, MS, M, was a guest, alive, non-bearded, human, a bit older than Clark.
A current main, F, was a guest, alive, non-bearded, human, no powers, a little older than Clark.
A SEG, F, never main, dead, human, no powers, older than Clark.
A SEG, M, never main, alive, not incarcerated, awake, human, no powers, older than Clark.
A RG, >2<5, M, never main, alive, comatose, human, no powers, older than Clark.
A RG, >2<5, F, never main, dead, human, no powers, older than Clark.

[MrsK]

Is the same actor who played Lex in the Reunion flashbacks playing Alexander next week?Yes. Lucas Grabeel.

[xrayvision]

I hope Wayne Dalglish who played young Lex in Memoria also plays Alexander once. Though he's younger than Lucas. It would have been great had Wayne played him next week & Lucas played the final stage Alexander before MR (if MR returns, which will put a huge smile on my face since I sorely miss his presence on the show).

[MrsK]

So they are mentioned (in no particular order) by:
Lex.
Oliver.
Lois.
A SEG, F, never main, dead, human, no powers, older than Clark.
A SEG, M, never main, alive, not incarcerated, awake, human, no powers, older than Clark.
Dr. Garner?
Claire Foster? Amanda Waller? Lillian Luthor?

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I hope Wayne Dalglish who played young Lex in Memoria also plays Alexander once. Though he's younger than Lucas. It would have been great had Wayne played him next week & Lucas played the final stage Alexander before MR (if MR returns, which will put a huge smile on my face since I sorely miss his presence on the show).
I agree. Lucas is supposed to appear again, I believe, so in theory they could have done that.

[xrayvision]

Are they animals or plants?

[skully]

So they are mentioned (in no particular order) by:
Lex.
Oliver.
Lois.
A SEG, F, never main, dead, human, no powers, older than Clark.
A SEG, M, never main, alive, not incarcerated, awake, human, no powers, older than Clark.
Dr. Garner?
Claire Foster? Amanda Waller? Lillian Luthor?
Yes, Dr. Garner and Lillian Luthor.


Are they animals or plants?Animals.

Shouldn't take long now. :)

[xrayvision]

Are they dogs/puppies?

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By the way, IMDB has something very interesting about Michael Rosenbaum in episode 20 this season in his profile.

[skully]

Not dogs or puppies.

[MrsK]

By the way, IMDB has something very interesting about Michael Rosenbaum in episode 20 this season in his profile.
I saw that. We both know how reliable that is, but we'll see..

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Is the main who owns one version current, MS? M/F? ever a guest? alive? human? bearded? Clark's age?

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Are they mice?

[skully]

They are indeed mice. :)

And Craig has debunked the IMDB entry.

[MrsK]

I figured it wasn't true. Too bad, though. :(

Another later - probably not until after the Super Bowl, which starts in about 20 minutes.

[MrsK]

Actually, I'll put one up tomorrow. Off to bed for now. :)

[xrayvision]

Hopefully nothing too devious. :D

[MrsK]

Haven't thought of anything good yet, so probably not. :) Off to a job interview; I promise I'll post a new one tonight.

[xrayvision]

Good luck MrsK!! Given your detective skills, I'm guessing you're applying to police commissioner of Denver. :)

[MrsK]

Hehe. :lol: I am actually a lawyer. Not licensed in CO, though, so the interview was for a paralegal position.

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We are all good.
One of us did something bad.
One of us spent time in jail.

Who are we?

[xrayvision]

Are any of us mains?

Is the one who did something bad Jed McNally?

Was the one who went to jail seen in jail, or was it just mentioned?

Are we farmers?

[MrsK]

None of us are mains.
No, the one who did something bad is not Jed McNally - I wouldn't consider him good.
We are not farmers.
The one who went to jail was not actually seen in jail.

[xrayvision]

Did the one who went to jail go there a long time before the episode they were seen or recently?

Do all of you share a common activity? Profession? Meteor power? Species/race?

Did Clark find out about the something bad that one of you did? Was that something bad seen in an episode, or is it part of the character's history?

Is the one who got sent to jail the same one who did something bad? If not, did the person who got sent to jail deserve to go to jail or were they framed?

[MrsK]

The one who went to jail was there long before the ep.
No, no common activity or profession, nor meteor power. We are all human.
Yes Clark found out about the something bad. It was seen in the ep.
The person who did something bad is not the one who went to jail.
The one who went to jail did not deserve to go.

[xrayvision]

Is the person who went to jail Dex?

Is the common thing among these characters their name (first or last)?

[MrsK]

No, not Dex.
Yes.

[skully]

Good luck MrsK!! Given your detective skills, I'm guessing you're applying to police commissioner of Denver. :)
Hehehe, forum Gold!!! :D

And good luck from me as well. :)

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Is it the Cole boys, Eddie, Edgar and Lincoln?

Skip that - Lincoln wasn't good (or do you count him as good but then did something bad when he cracked?). Still, I remember xray having me going for days on a question in the early days about the three Coles. :)

Do we all have the same surnames? Christian names?

[MrsK]

No, not the Coles.
They have the same Christian name.

[skully]

Are we all males?

Are any of us RGs, >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, Clark’s age?

[MrsK]

No, we are not all males.

All of us are female SEGs.
2 are definitely alive; the other's status is uncertain.
None incarcerated.
2 much older than Clark; one Clark's age.
2 have no powers; one is a meteor freak.

[skully]

Was one of the older ones in jail? Or the younger version?

Did one of the older ones do the bad thing, or the younger one?

Was the bad thing done in Smallville? Metropolis?

Was the bad thing done before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

[xrayvision]

Is it Jenkins (Earl Jenkins, Pamela Jenkins, and Dr. Jenkins that Chloe mentioned in a season 1 or 2 episode--maybe Nocturne)?

[skully]

They have the same Christian or first names, xray. :)

Hmm, Mrs.Taylor aka Marianne Lewis ended up in jail in Truth but I'm not aware of any other Mariannes in the series. Similarly with Leslie Willis aka Livewire in Injustice.

[xrayvision]

Oh, I didn't see that.

Are they Kyles?

-Kyle Tippet (jailed wrongfully)
-Kyle from Visitor (did something bad)
-Kyle from Red

[skully]

No, we are not all males.

All of us are female SEGs.
2 are definitely alive; the other's status is uncertain.
None incarcerated.
2 much older than Clark; one Clark's age.
2 have no powers; one is a meteor freak.Hehehe, and they are all females, xray. :D

Outstanding questions:

Was one of the older ones in jail? Or the younger version?

Did one of the older ones do the bad thing, or the younger one?

Was the bad thing done in Smallville? Metropolis?

Was the bad thing done before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

New question:

Is the jail mentioned a prision in the conventional sense , or like the Phantom Zone?

Are they all humans?

[xrayvision]

Abigail?

-Abigail Ross
-Abigail Fine
-Abigail Hunkel
-Gabby Abby/Abigail

[skully]

Abigail Hunkel, nice. We saw her ever so briefly in Absolute Justice. :)

[MrsK]

xray has it - Abigails (I hadn't thought of Gabby Abby :)). Well done.

[xrayvision]

One of them was killed.
One of them was attacked.
One of them was arrested.

Who are they?

[MrsK]

Do all of them share a common activity? Profession? Meteor power? Species/race? Name?

Did the one who was arrested deserve to be? Do we see the arrest or actually see him/her in jail?
Was the one who was killed killed by a meteor freak? By the episode's main villain? Intentionally or by accident?
Was the one who was attacked attacked physically or verbally?
Are any of them seen in the same episode.

[xrayvision]

Profession.

Yes, definitely deserved. We don't see the arrest but we do see the person being apprehended. I don't think we see them in jail.

The one who was killed was not killed by a meteor freak. Intentionally by the episode's main villain.

The one who was attacked was physically attacked.

No, they're all seen in seperate episodes.

[MrsK]

Does their profession require them to wear a uniform?
Are they all the same gender? Male or female?
Do they all work in the same city? Metropolis? Smallville? Somewhere else?
Are they all SEG's?
Do they have names that we know?

[xrayvision]

No, uniforms are not required in their profession.

All males.

All work in Smallville.

2 of them are SEGs. 1 of them was never seen.

2 of them are named. I don't believe the other was named.

[skully]

Maybe School Principals? Kwan was murdered by Justin Gaines in Crush, Reynolds was attacked by Chrissy Parker in Redux. Not sure about an arrested Principal. Principal Gibbons was insulted by red-K Clark in Red. :)

Perhaps Teachers?

[xrayvision]

Nope, neither of those.

[MrsK]

Recap for the new page:

One of them was killed.
One of them was attacked.
One of them was arrested.
They are all male.
All work in Smallville.
They share a common profession - not principals or teachers.
Uniforms are not required in their profession.
2 of them are SEGs. 1 of them was never seen.
2 of them are named. I don't believe the other was named.

Who are they?

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Do they all work at the same place?
Would they know each other?
Is the one who was not seen the same one that is not named? Is it the one who was killed?

[xrayvision]

It's possible that 2 of the 3 work in the same place. But we don't know since we didn't see one of them.

I doubt it.

The one who is not seen is named & is the one who was killed.

[MrsK]

Do they work at the SMC? The mansion? On a farm?

[xrayvision]

None of those places.

[skully]

Did they work in Main Street?

[xrayvision]

One of them may have, but it's not clear if the place he worked at was actually on Main Street & if it was it wasn't anywhere near the Talon.

[skully]

Are they shopkeepers of some sort? Was the one that was attacked the old guy that Hercules attacked at the beginning of Krypto?

[xrayvision]

Maybe if you use the term shop very loosely. Otherwise no.

[skully]

Do they sell products?

[xrayvision]

They can but not usually.

[skully]

Do they sell anything? Services e.g. lawyers, plumbers?

[xrayvision]

Services but neither of those.

[skully]

Is the one that dies killed before or after Roger Nixon's death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia's? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy's?

[xrayvision]

The one who dies was killed after Roger Nixon's death & before Morgan Edge's.

[skully]

Did they provide legal (i.e. legitimate) services or illegal ones?

Is the one that is killed, murdered? By a freak? By LuthorCorp connections? Accidentally dies? Does he die in Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors? Day or night?

[xrayvision]

Legal services.

Yes murdered but not by a freak or Luthorcorp connections. He was murdered in Smallville. I don't remember if it was mentioned where, but I'm pretty sure indoors. The time of day isn't known since the murder was offscreen.

[skully]

So we don't see the killed one but he is named. So is he mentioned by a main? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age? Or mentioned by an RG, >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, Clark’s age?

Is he mentioned by two names (christian and surname) or only christian name or only surname? Is he called "Mr. ____"

[xrayvision]

Mentioned by a main. Current, MS, F, never a guest, alive, human, Clark's age.

He's mentioned by surname (Mr. ______).

[skully]

So Chloe refers to the death of Mr. ______.

Does she say his body was found? He was found murdered? He was killed?

Does she say this at the Torch? The Farm? SV High? The Talon?

[xrayvision]

I think she says he was found murdered. I don't remember her exact words. But it was something like that.

At the Torch.

[skully]

Does she mention it to Clark? Lana? Pete?

[xrayvision]

Clark & I think Pete too.

[skully]

Are they Motor Mechanics?

Chloe mentioned to Clark that Leonard Wallace "was gunned down two weeks ago" at the Torch in Extinction. He was killed by Van McNulty using Chloe's suspected freaks list as a guide.

Hmm, several other mechanics have also died. Jeremy Creek killed Frank the ex-Jock in Pilot and Evan accidentally killed Tanner Sutherland in Ageless.

[xrayvision]

Yes, they're mechanics.

I was referring to Mr. Wallace (I forgot his first name was given), the ex-jock that Jeremy put in a coma (I don't think he killed him based on Chloe's dialogue), and Masterson, who was also a mechanic given the tow truck Nathan, his accomplice drove and the garage where Pete was kept in Whisper.

[skully]

Yeah, you're right about Frank, the mechanic in Pilot. It isn't sure that he was killed but I don't think Chloe said he was in a coma (she did mention shortly after the 3rd ex-jock is electrocuted that Jeremy was in a coma for 12 years). I just assumed because Jeremy shot a few thousand volts through him he was fried. But Wiki seems to think all 3 jocks were only put in comas.

Actually, Clark said "And now he's back in Smallville, putting former jocks into comas. Why?"

Okey dokes. Another soon. :)

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One was assaulted
One was kidnapped
One was changed.

What are they?

[xrayvision]

Hmm, so these are all items (since you said what) or perhaps animals? By kidnapped, do you mean stolen?

Were the assailant, kidnapper or changer mains or guests?

Can they be lifted by 1 hand? Fit in a closed fist? Bigger than a mug? Than a chair?

Were the assailant & kidnapper of the first 2 clues the main villains of those episodes?

Did the one that was changed turn a different color? Change in size or shape? Did its chemical properties change?

[skully]

Hmm, so these are all items (since you said what) or perhaps animals? By kidnapped, do you mean stolen?

Were the assailant, kidnapper or changer mains or guests?

Can they be lifted by 1 hand? Fit in a closed fist? Bigger than a mug? Than a chair?

Were the assailant & kidnapper of the first 2 clues the main villains of those episodes?

Did the one that was changed turn a different color? Change in size or shape? Did its chemical properties change?My bad. They are all who's.

One was assaulted
One was kidnapped
One was changed.

Who are they?

[xrayvision]

Are any of them mains? Or all guests?

Are the assailant, kidnapper or changer of them in the 3 clues mains or guests?

Are the assailant & kidnapper of the first 2 clues the main villains of those episodes?

[skully]

Two are mains and one is a guest.

The assailant is a main, the kidnapper is a guest, the changer is neither a main, nor a guest.

The assailant is not the main villain of the epi but the kidnapper is.

[xrayvision]

Two are mains and one is a guest.

Are the mains MS/SS? Current/former? M/F? Alive/dead? Ever a guest? Bearded? Alien? How old wrt Clark?

Is the guest RG/SEG? If RG >2 <5? M/F? Alive/dead? Good/misled/evil? Powered? Freak/metahuman/alien? Comatose? Incarcerated? Ever a main? Bearded? How old wrt Clark?

Also, can you specify which one was attacked/changed/kidnapped?


The assailant is a main, the kidnapper is a guest, the changer is neither a main, nor a guest.

Is the assailant main MS/SS? Current/former? M/F? Alive/dead? Ever a guest? Bearded? Alien? How old wrt Clark?

Is the kidnapper guest RG/SEG? If RG >2 <5? M/F? Alive/dead? Good/misled/evil? Powered? Freak/metahuman/alien? Comatose? Incarcerated? Ever a main? Bearded? How old wrt Clark?

Is the changer someone who was mentioned in the show but never seen?

[skully]

The mains are current, MS, F, alive, was a guest, non-bearded, human, slightly older than Clark, and current, MS, M, alive, never guest, non-bearded, alien, Clark's age.

The guest is SEG, M, alive, misled, powered temporarily, freak, not comatose, not incarcerated, never main, non-bearded, Clark's age.

The assailant main is SS, former, M, dead, was a guest, non-bearded, human, a bit older than Clark.

The kidnapper is SEG, M, dead, evil, non-powered, human, never main, non-bearded, quite a bit older than Clark.

The changer is not a person.

[MrsK]

Recapping:

One was assaulted by a main (Whitney?)
One was kidnapped by a guest who was the main villain of the ep (SEG, M, dead, evil, non-powered, human, never main, non-bearded, quite a bit older than Clark.)
One was changed by something.
Two are mains (Lois and Clark) and one is a SEG, M, alive, misled, powered temporarily, freak, not comatose, not incarcerated, never main, non-bearded, Clark's age.

What are they?

Is the one who was assaulted Kyle Tippett?
Do they share a name, an occupation, or something else?

[skully]

Kyle Tippett is not the one who was assaulted.

They sort of share a name. Not an occupation.

[MrsK]

Is Whitney the main that did the assaulting?

[skully]

Yes.

[MrsK]

Is the guest the one that is changed?
Is Clark the one that was assaulted?

[skully]

Yes, the guest is one who is changed, and Clark is the one assaulted.

[xrayvision]

The mains are current, MS, F, alive, was a guest, non-bearded, human, slightly older than Clark, and current, MS, M, alive, never guest, non-bearded, alien, Clark's age.

The guest is SEG, M, alive, misled, powered temporarily, freak, not comatose, not incarcerated, never main, non-bearded, Clark's age.

So Clark & Lois were 2 of them while a guest I haven't figured out yet was a 3rd (is it Jordan Cross?). Can you specify between Clark, Lois & the guest, which one was attacked/changed/kidnapped?


The assailant main is SS, former, M, dead, was a guest, non-bearded, human, a bit older than Clark.

Hmm, is the assailant main Jason Teague?


The changer is not a person.

Is the changer a force or a computer program, like the cave technology, which changed Dr. Walden?

[skully]

MrsK has established that Clark was assaulted, and the guest was changed.

She has also established that Whitney did the assaulting. So it's not Jason (who was never a guest).

The change was not caused by a force, a computer program or cave technology.

[xrayvision]

Oh, I didn't look at her post & noticed there was a question of mine you missed. So that means Lois was the one kidnapped.

I thought Jason was a guest in Veritas where he appeared as a child in Lex's flashback.

Was the change caused by a mutation? Natural disaster? An animal? Disease/virus? Disfigurement?

[skully]

A mutation (of sorts) and natural disaster.

For purposes of separating Whitney and Jason we normally count him as a SS main who was never a guest.

[xrayvision]

Hmm, I forgot that this is the Pronoun Game so there's a connection between Clark, Lois & this guest.

So are they victims? Or something a lot more specific?

[skully]

Yes, they are all victims, but a specific type.

[xrayvision]

Does the changed one acquire meteor powers? Is the temporary status of his powers that he had powers after his change? Did he lose the powers after getting them?

[skully]

Yes, the guest acquires meteor powers. The guest lost the powers before the end of the epi.

[xrayvision]

Recap:

-One of them (Clark) was assaulted by Whitney.
-One of them (Lois) was kidnapped.
-One of them (SEG, M, alive, misled, powered temporarily, freak, not comatose, not incarcerated, never main, non-bearded, Clark's age) was changed.
-Whitney is not the main villain of the episode where Clark is attacked but the kidnapper is the main villain of the episode in which Lois gets kidnapped.
-The kidnapper is SEG, M, dead, evil, non-powered, human, never main, non-bearded, quite a bit older than Clark.
-The change happened as a result of a mutation (of sorts) and natural disaster.
-The changed guest acquires a meteor power & loses it before the end of the episode.

Who are they?

New Questions:

Is the changed guest Jeremy Creek?

Is Mikey from Tomb the kidnapper?

[skully]

Yes, the changed guest is Jeremy Creek.

Mikey is not the kidnapper.

[xrayvision]

Is the evil Lex clone the kidnapper?

Are they people who were hung?

[skully]

Yes, evil Lex clone is the kidnapper. Yes, all were "hung" but what were they called? :)

[xrayvision]

Scarecrows?

[skully]

Yes!!! They were all Scarecrows. Well done, xray, you're up. :D

[xrayvision]

One of them was used as a weapon.
One of them was handled by a main.
One of them was handled by another main.

What are they?

[skully]

Are the mains current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? A closed fist?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn?

Are they colorful?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

[xrayvision]

One of the mains is current, MS, M, never a guest, alive, not bearded, alien, Clark's age.
The other main is former, MS, M, was a guest, dead, not bearded, human, a bit older than Clark.

They can be held and lifted in one hand if compacted enough, but that may be hard to do. They definitely won't fit in a closed fist.

They are made of a rather soft material.

They are not alien, edible, organic (I'm pretty sure they're not organic since these days they wouldn't be), or electrical/electronic.

They can be worn, but that would be a very odd thing to do.

Some of them are colorful.

They are functional.

They could be seen in a residence or a medical facility. A different form of them could be seen in an office or place of business, but in these days they would probably be replaced with something else. A different form of them can be seen in certain places of recreation or entertainment.

We see all of the ones referred to in the clues in Smallville. 2 of them at common series locations, 1 of them at a single episode location. All indoors. 1 during the day & the other 2 at night.

We see them 1 after Roger Nixon’s death & before Morgan Edge's and the other 2 after Morgan Edge's death & before Alicia’s.

I should also mention that besides the ones mentioned in the clues, we do see other versions of the same type of "them" in the series.

[skully]

So Clark and Lex both handle versions of them.

Are they made of fabric/cloth, paper, cardboard, soft plastic, gel, foam/sponge, styrofoam, rubber? I presume they are not liquid or gas?

Are the common series locations the farm? The mansion? SV High? The Talon? SMC?

[xrayvision]

Yes, Clark & Lex.

They're made of soft plastic (I'm pretty sure they all are).

One of the CSLs is the farm & the other is the Talon.

[skully]

Hmm, maybe shower curtains?

Clark handled one at the farm in Gone when Lois barged in on him after the helicopter incident, Lana was nearly choked with one by Tim Westcott at the Talon apartment in Pariah. Lex pulled a curtain back in the Paul Hayden's motel bathroom in Precipice and found Meacham's body.

[xrayvision]

Damn, that was fast. Yes, you got it & nailed the 3 clues perfectly. You're up.

[skully]

Hehehe. OK, another soon. :)

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These are mentioned 4 times in the series
They are a very common item
When seen they are usually important to the plot.

What are they?

[MrsK]

Are they mentioned by mains (current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?) or guests (SEG/RG? >2, <5? m/f? ever main? human? alive? incarcerated? comatose? powers? Clark's age?)

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? In a closed fist?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Are they designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Can they be used as a weapon?

Are they man-made?

Are they bigger than a table?

Are they functional or decorative?

[xrayvision]

Are they tangible?

Do any mains own them?

Are they seen at a common series location in Smallville or Metropolis (or both)? During the day or night?

Are they made of metal, plastic, wood, glass, rubber, porcelain, stone/mineral, clay, ceramic, paper, cardboard, fabric (cotton, cloth, canvas, etc), gem, liquid, gel, or some type of organic material?

Are they expensive?

Can they provide access to a room or electronic file?

Are they owned by any villains or stolen by them?

[skully]

Are they mentioned by mains (current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?) or guests (SEG/RG? >2, <5? m/f? ever main? human? alive? incarcerated? comatose? powers? Clark's age?)

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? In a closed fist?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Are they designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Can they be used as a weapon?

Are they man-made?

Are they bigger than a table?

Are they functional or decorative?They are mentioned by a current, MS, M, never guest, alive, non-bearded, alien Clark's age main, by a former, MS, M, was a guest, dead, non-bearded, human, much older than Clark main, and by a RG, >2<5, F, never main, alive, not incarcerated, not comatose, no powers, older than Clark.

They can be lifted in one hand but not a closed fist.

They are made of hard material.

They are not alien, edible or organic. They are electrical/electronic.

They cannot be worn and are not designed to be.

They are generally not very colorful.

Well, they could be used as a weapon but it would be unusual, and they aren't used in such a way.

They are man-made.

They are smaller than a table.

They are functional.


Are they tangible?

Do any mains own them?

Are they seen at a common series location in Smallville or Metropolis (or both)? During the day or night?

Are they made of metal, plastic, wood, glass, rubber, porcelain, stone/mineral, clay, ceramic, paper, cardboard, fabric (cotton, cloth, canvas, etc), gem, liquid, gel, or some type of organic material?

Are they expensive?

Can they provide access to a room or electronic file?

Are they owned by any villains or stolen by them?They are tangible.

Mains do own them.

They are seen at common locations in Smallville and Metropolis, indoors during the day.

They are generally made of metal and plastic.

They are not particularly expensive.

They are not used for accessing a room or a file.

They could be owned by villains. They aren't really something a villain would want to steal.

[xrayvision]

Are they cell phones or MP3 players?

[skully]

Not cell phones or MP3 players.

[xrayvision]

GPS devices? Walkmans? Laptops? Computers? PDAs? Radios?

[skully]

None of them.

[xrayvision]

Are the TVs?

Are they bigger than a mug?

Are they standalone devices or a part of another bigger device?

[skully]

Not TVs.

A little bigger than a mug.

They can be stand alone but are normally connected to another device (not necessarily bigger).

[xrayvision]

An answering machine or fax machine?

[skully]

Answering machines, they are. Well done, you're up. :)

[xrayvision]

They are not very common.
Someone made it possible for 2 others to have them.
At least 4 characters who had them all died.

What are they?

[skully]

Is the someone a main? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age? Or an RG - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, Clark’s age?

Are any of the dead characters mains or RGs? Same Qs as above

Can they be held and lifted in one hand?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

[xrayvision]

Yes the someone is a main. Current, MS, M, never guest, alive, non-bearded, alien, Clark's age.

2 of the dead characters mains. One is former, MS, M, was a guest, non-bearded, human, a bit older than Clark. The other is former, MS, M, was a guest, non-bearded, human, much older than Clark.

They can't be held nor lifted in one hand.

The majority of their composition is made of hard material.

They are not alien, edible, or organic. One version of them is electrical/electronic.

They can't be worn nor were they designed to be.

They are not colorful.

They're functional.

They could be seen in a residence, an office/place of business, a place of recreation or entertainment, or a medical facility.

We see them in Smallville & Metropolis. At common series locations. Indoors. I think the various versions of them were seen during the day & night.

[skully]

So Clark made it possible for 2 others to have them.

Lex and Jonathan had them.

Did Clark make it possible for Lex and Jonathan to have them?

Are the other two dead people SEGs? M/F, powers, alive, incarcerated, comatose, Clark’s age?

Are they simply too big to lift or are they fixed to the ground?

Are they bigger than a table? A car? A house?

Are they some sort of machine?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

[xrayvision]

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

One of the other 2 dead people is a RG >2 <5, M, no powers, never incarcerated, never comatose, much older than Clark. The other is a SEG, M, no powers, was incarcerated, never comatose, much older than Clark.

Too big to lift.

Smaller than a table.

You could call them a machine.

We see versions of them before RN's death, between RN's & ME's deaths, between ME's & AB's deaths, and between JK's & LL's deaths.

[skully]

Did the items have anything to do with the death of the 4 people?

[xrayvision]

No.

[skully]

Are they made metal, wood, glass, porcelain, ceramic, plastic, fiberglass, stone/mineral, gem or crystal?

[xrayvision]

Metal with plastic parts.

[skully]

So it's smaller than a table but too big to lift.

Is it like a safe? A chest or trunk?

Is it for storage or something else?

[xrayvision]

Yes.

It's not any of those or like them.

Not for storage.

[skully]

Do we see them at the farm? In the farmhouse? The barn? The loft? At the mansion? In the study? At SV High? At the Torch? At the Talon? At SMC? At LCHQ? At the DP? At MGH?

[xrayvision]

SMC and LCHQ.

[skully]

Are they wheelchairs?

[xrayvision]

Yes, you got it. I saw last night that Pete Dinsmore, who also died was in one of them & he's also dead.

[skully]

When I saw LCHQ I immediately thought of WheeLex in Labyrinth. :D

Another soonish.

[skully]

OK.

These are a common item
They are always found in multiples
Mains have handled them.

What are they?

[xrayvision]

Are the mains MS/SS? Current/former? M/F? Alive/dead? Ever a guest? Bearded? Alien? How old wrt Clark?

Are they made of metal, wood, plastic, stone/mineral, gem, rubber, glass, paper, cardboard, ceramic, clay/mud, fabric, porcelain, fiberglass, liquid, some other organic material?

Are they expensive? Colorful? Functional or decorative? Alien? Electric/electronic?

Are they weapons? Can they be used as weapons?

Can they be lifted in 1 hand? Fit in a closed fist? Or are they bigger than a mug? Bigger than a chair? Bigger than a table?

Can they be purchased at a store or are they made at home or found in nature?

Would they be found in a residence or workplace? Are they seen at any common series locations in Smallville or Metropolis?

[skully]

The mains are:

Former, MS, M, dead, was a guest, bearded, human, much older than Clark

Former, MS, F, alive, was a guest, non-bearded, human, Clark's age.

Former, MS, M, dead, was a guest, non-bearded, human, a bit older than Clark.

They are generally made of wood.

Individually they aren't that expensive. They are not colorful. They are functional. They are not alien or electrical/electronic.

They are not weapons and can't be used as such.

In their normal form they cannot be lifted with one hand nor held in a closed fist but individually they could be.

Individually they are smaller than a mug. In their normal multiple form, they occupy about the area of a chair, maybe slightly more.

They would be purchased at a store.

They would normally be found in a residence, amongst other places. It would have to be a specific workplace for them to be found there.

They are seen at a common series location in Smallville, and in some single episode locations in Smallville and Metropolis.

[xrayvision]

Hmm, so they were handled by Lana, Lionel & Lex.

Were any of them seen at the Luthor mansion? Is that where Lana, Lex & Lionel handled them? Or the Kent Farm? Was Lana living at the mansion when she handled them?

Are they used for transportation? Storage? Furniture?

When in their normal multiple form, how many of individual forms would make up a multiple form? More than 5? More than 10?

Are they normally found indoors or outdoors?

[MrsK]

How about piano keys?

[skully]

Hehehe, very nice, MrsK. They are indeed piano keys. :)

[MrsK]

Whoa! That was unexpected! :D All right... another soon.

[skully]

It's funny how some you think won't last long take days, and some you think "this is devious" go straight away. I thought piano keys would take a little longer. :)

[xrayvision]

Piano keys are made of wood? I thought they were made of something else. That smooth polished surface fooled me.

[MrsK]

I've learned to go with the random hunches - you never know when they'll be right!

Okay.

At least one of us was shot.
At least two of us died because of our own actions.
At least one of us survived.

Who are we?

[skully]

Piano keys are made of wood? I thought they were made of something else. That smooth polished surface fooled me.Spruce or basswood - painted in enamel or other high quality paint. They used (prior to the 50s) to made of ivory and later sugar pine. So says Wiki. :)


I've learned to go with the random hunches - you never know when they'll be right!

Okay.

At least one of us was shot.
At least two of us died because of our own actions.
At least one of us survived.

Who are we?
Are any mains? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

Or RGs - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, comatose, Clark’s age?

[MrsK]

Not mains.

One SEG, male, powers, dead, Clark's age
One SEG, male, no powers, dead, older than Clark
One 2-ep RG, female, powers, dead, Clark's age.
One 2-ep RG, male, powers, alive, not incarcerated, not comatose, Clark's age.

[skully]

Do they share an occupation? A race? A pastime? The fact that they were all attacked? By someone in particular?

[xrayvision]

Spruce or basswood - painted in enamel or other high quality paint. They used (prior to the 50s) to made of ivory and later sugar pine. So says Wiki. :)


I knew they were made of ivory (I believe the ivory yellowed over time) before & that the use of ivory was discontinued but didn't know what they replaced ivory with.

That was a good one though. I wouldn't have gotten it so it's a good thing MrsK did.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Recap:

-At least one of us was shot.
-At least two of us died because of our own actions.
-At least one of us survived.
-None of us are mains.
-One of us is a SEG, male, powers, dead, Clark's age
-One of us is a SEG, male, no powers, dead, older than Clark
-One of us is a 2-ep RG, female, powers, dead, Clark's age.
-One of us is a 2-ep RG, male, powers, alive, not incarcerated, not comatose, Clark's age.

Who are we?

Outstanding Questions:

Do they share an occupation? A race? A pastime? The fact that they were all attacked? By someone in particular?

New Questions:

Is one of you Tina Greer?
Did the one who survive withstand a shooting? Stabbing? Being hit by a car? A natural disaster?
Does the thing you share in common involve Clark?

[MrsK]

They do not share an occupation, nor the fact that they were all attacked.
They are all human - all caucasian, actually, but that isn't the thing that connects them in this case. Not that they were all attacked. They do share a pastime.

One is Tina.
The one who survived did not withstand a shooting, stabbing, being hit by a car, or a natural disaster.
What we have in common does not involve Clark.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Are they Lana stalkers?

[MrsK]

Yes! Well done, Reign. :)

[skully]

Ooh, nice. :)

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Very cool!

-"They" appeared in at least two episodes
-In the two episodes "they" appeared in, they were used for very different purposes
-A guest offers a main assistance with "it" (it = singular version of "them")

[MrsK]

When we see "them" are they always more than one?
Is the guest recurring or single-ep? >2, <5? M/F? ever a main? alive? powers? incarcerated? comatose? human? Clark's age?
Is the main current? MS? M/F? Ever a guest? alive? human? bearded? Clark's age?

[xrayvision]

Is the main MS/SS? Current/former? M/F? Alive/dead? Ever a guest? Bearded? Alien? How old w.r.t. Clark?

Are they made of metal, wood, plastic, stone/mineral, gem, clay/mud, porcelain, ceramic, rubber, glass, paper, cardboard, liquid, some other organic material?

Are they weapons or could they be used as weapons?

Are they expensive?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

When we see them, there are others there like them.

Guest who offers to help is a single episode guest (male, never a main, dead, human, about Clark's age)
Main is not current, female, HAS been a guest, alive, human, not bearded obviously, Clark's age

[MrsK]

Is the guest a Lana stalker?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Is the main MS/SS? Current/former? M/F? Alive/dead? Ever a guest? Bearded? Alien? How old w.r.t. Clark?

Are they made of metal, wood, plastic, stone/mineral, gem, clay/mud, porcelain, ceramic, rubber, glass, paper, cardboard, liquid, some other organic material?

Are they weapons or could they be used as weapons?

Are they expensive?

made of hard material (plastic and resin maybe?)

They're not weapons, but COULD be used that way

[xrayvision]

Was the guest good, misled, or evil?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Is the guest a Lana stalker?

Not a stalker. But there is an obvious attraction. Stalker is probably too strong of a word in this case. Certainly not a Tina Greer type.

----- Added 40 Seconds later -----


Was the guest good, misled, or evil?

Guest was "neutral". Maybe a bit misled.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Are they expensive?

Not really Probably less than 50 bucks? I'm sure (like everything) there are more expensive versions available.

[MrsK]

Does Lana accept the guest's offer of help?

[xrayvision]

Is the guest Brady from Trespass?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Is the guest Brady from Trespass?

nope


Does Lana accept the guest's offer of help?

Yes

[xrayvision]

Is the offer of help made at the Talon or mansion? Or the Kent Farm? Some other common series location in Smallville or Metropolis?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Is the offer of help made at the Talon or mansion? Or the Kent Farm? Some other common series location in Smallville or Metropolis?

none of those. Best description would be "uncommon" Smallville location. Seen once or twice. We see one of these type of places in two different episodes. Just not sure if it's the exact same location or two different of the same type.

[xrayvision]

Are any of them seen in Virgil Swann's place in New York?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Are any of them seen in Virgil Swann's place in New York?

Nope

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Hmm, dry spell here. Maybe a hint? "They" are quite heavy.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Hmmm, this thread appears to be dying on the vine. The answer was "bowling balls". Daniel Kim helped Lana use one. And Clark used it as a weapon in Stray. Two very different purposes. Someone else can post a new one.

[skully]

Sorry Reign, I was leaving this one for xray as he seemed to be closing in. I would've come in and had a bit of an effort to try to solve it. I won't leave you hanging next time. :)

[ReignoftheSupermen]

No problem Skully. Feel free to jump in anytime!

[MrsK]

Since no one solved that one, why don't you post another, Reign? :)

[ReignoftheSupermen]

-Several mains and guests had/have "these".

-Some gave "them" up to others while some had them taken away secretly. Some still have them

-"These" are a constant source of friction between characters on the show.

[skully]

Are they tangible?

Are they living things?

Are the mains that have/had them current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

-"They" are not tangible

-"They" are not living things

-The mains/guests that have them are probably too many to single out. It's probably fair to say that almost everyone on the show has their own version of "them".

[skully]

Are "they" emotions or some sort? Feelings? Love?

Or is it something like "secrets"?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

They are INDEED something like "secrets". In fact, they ARE secrets. Well done Skully!

[skully]

Bwahahaha, yay for the wild guess!!! :D

Another soonish.

[MrsK]

Well done, skully!

[skully]

"They" are mentioned 6 times in the series
"They" are a pretty common item
"They" come in all shapes and sizes

What are "they"?

[Chlo_Chlo2010]

Are they living?

[MrsK]

Are they seen as well as mentioned?

[skully]

Are they living?No.


Are they seen as well as mentioned?Some are seen, some are not.

[MrsK]

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Are they designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Can they be used as a weapon?

Are they man-made?

Are they bigger than a table?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would the they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

[skully]

Most of "them" are made of hard material.

"They" are not alien, edible, or electrical/electronic. One version has organic components.

"They" generally cannot be worn, nor are designed to be.

"They" are not really colorful.

"They" generally cannot be used as a weapon, although one specific version contributed to a weapon.

"They" are man-made.

"They" are generally smaller than a table.

"They" are generally functional.

Depending on which version, "they" could be seen in all of these places. Perhaps not so much in a medical facility.

[skully]

Bueller?

[Chlo_Chlo2010]

Bueller?
Bahahaha! Sorry but that was good.

Um......Were they mentioned early in the series or just randomly throughout?

[skully]

:D

They are mentioned 6 times from S5 through to S8.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Would their function be closer to:
-Recreation
-Work-related (professional)
-School related
-for self defense?

[skully]

Hmm, not really close to any of them.

[Chlo_Chlo2010]

Are they really useful? Or only on occasion?

[skully]

Yes, I would describe them as useful. One particular version was quite pivotal.

[smallville84]

Recap
"They" are mentioned 6 times in the series
"They" are a pretty common item
"They" come in all shapes and sizes
Most of "them" are made of hard material.
"They" are not alien, edible, or electrical/electronic. One version has organic components.
"They" generally cannot be worn, nor are designed to be.
"They" are not really colorful.
"They" generally cannot be used as a weapon, although one specific version contributed to a weapon.
"They" are man-made.
"They" are generally smaller than a table.
"They" are generally functional.
They are mentioned 6 times from S5 through to S8.
They are useful.


Can They be purchased? Expensive?
Are any of them important to the plot of any episode?
Are any seen in possession of any mains? Guests?

[MrsK]

Are any of the mentioners non-mains?

[skully]

Recap
"They" are mentioned 6 times in the series
"They" are a pretty common item
"They" come in all shapes and sizes
Most of "them" are made of hard material.
"They" are not alien, edible, or electrical/electronic. One version has organic components.
"They" generally cannot be worn, nor are designed to be.
"They" are not really colorful.
"They" generally cannot be used as a weapon, although one specific version contributed to a weapon.
"They" are man-made.
"They" are generally smaller than a table.
"They" are generally functional.
They are mentioned 6 times from S5 through to S8.
They are useful.


Can They be purchased? Expensive?
Are any of them important to the plot of any episode?
Are any seen in possession of any mains? Guests?Yes, they can be purchased. They can be expensive.

Yes, there are at least 4 of them that are important to the plot of an episode.

Yes, some are seen in possession of mains, and some are seen in the possession of guests.


Are any of the mentioners non-mains?Yes, two of the mentioners are non-mains.

[smallville84]

Would they be carried around a lot?

The two guests who mention them are they RGs - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, comatose, human, Clark’s age?

[skully]

They could be. At least 2 of the specific items on the show were carried around a lot.

The guests that mention them are:

- RG, 2 eps, F, never main, powers, alive, not incarcerated, not comatose, human, a little older than Clark.

- SEG, M, never main, no powers, alive, not incarcerated, not comatose, human, a lot older than Clark.

[smallville84]

Is one of the guests Zatanna.

[skully]

Yes.

[smallville84]

Would "they" be heirlooms.

[skully]

"They" would indeed be heirlooms. Well done, sv84, you're up. :)

[smallville84]

"They" are very common.
One of "them" helped Clark find something.
"They" helped Lex out of a situation.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

GPS devices?

[smallville84]

Nope

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Is their function to help find the location of something (like a map)?

[smallville84]

No it's nothing like a map. Clark already knew the location.

[MrsK]

Are they inanimate objects?

[smallville84]

yes

[Chlo_Chlo2010]

Are they electronic?
Would they be considered expensive (if sold)?
Are they man made?
Are they bigger or smaller than a breadbox?

[smallville84]

They are not electronic.
They are not expensive.
They are man made.
They are smaller than a breadbox.

[skully]

Can they be held and lifted in one hand?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible or organic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

[MrsK]

I wonder if we should go on to a new question here since SV84 seems to be MIA lately. What do you think?

[smallville84]

I'm back.


Can they be held and lifted in one hand?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible or organic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

Some can be held lifted in one hand.
They are not made of hard material.
They are not alien, edible, or organic.
They are usually not colorful. Some have little or no color. Others have one color usually dark.
Can't be worn or designed to be.
They can be functional.
They could be seen at any of those places, more likely a medical facility.
We don't see all of them. One of them is seen in Smallville at a recurring location, indoors during the day. After Alicia's before Jonathan's.

[skully]

Recap:

"They" are very common.
One of "them" helped Clark find something.
"They" helped Lex out of a situation.
“They” are not GPS devices
It’s nothing like a map. Clark already knew the location.
“They” are inanimate objects
“They” are not electronic.
“They” are not expensive.
“They” are man made.
“They” are smaller than a breadbox.
Some can be held lifted in one hand.
“They” are not made of hard material.
“They” are not alien, edible, or organic.
“They” are usually not colorful. Some have little or no color. Others have one color usually dark.
“They” can't be worn or designed to be.
“They” can be functional.
“They” could be seen at any of those places, more likely a medical facility.
We don't see all of them. One of them is seen in Smallville at a recurring location, indoors during the day, after Alicia's death and before Jonathan's.


Are they made of rubber, soft plastic, fabric/cloth, paper, gel-like material, sponge, or cardboard? Do they have a liquid or gas component.

Is the recurring Smallville location SMC, the farm, the Talon, the Mansion, SV High?

[smallville84]

Not made of any of those things.

None of those places.

[MrsK]

Welcome back, smallville84! :)

Do they have any moving parts?
Is the something they helped Clark find important to the plot? Are they a clue? Did they remind him of something?
When we see the one you referred to, are any mains in the scene? Current? MS? M/F? Ever guests? alive? bearded? human? Clark's age?
Is the recurring location SV High? The caves? Somewhere less common?

[smallville84]

Thanks

They do not have moving parts.

Yes the something is important to the plot. They wasn't a clue in Clark's case, but many of them can be clues. They didn't remind Clark of anything.

Two mains. Current, MS, M, never a guest, alive, not bearded, not human, Clark's age.
and Current, MS, F, never a guest, alive, not bearded, human, Clark's age.

Not Smallville high or the caves. less common.

[skully]

So Clark and Chloe were present.

Are they seen at the LuthorCorp plant?

I'm thinking fingerprints (the one Chloe used to open the vault in Level 3 in Mortal) but they are organic and we did them fairly recently. :)

[smallville84]

They are fingerprints, didn't know they were already done. Yeah I guess they are organic.

[skully]

Hehehe, no probs, sv84. Check out this link to MrsK's original fingerprints Q - post 1454 (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130891&highlight=fingerprints&page=73). She had us going for a while. :D

Another soonish. :)

----- Added 13 Minutes later -----

OK...

One was killed
One was iconic
One was bribed

Who are "they"?

[MrsK]

Do they share a name? A profession? A physical characteristic?
Are they male or female?

[skully]

They share a profession. They are all male.

[MrsK]

Do they all work in the same place or for the same person?
Do they wear a uniform to work?
Are they seen in multiple seasons? Consecutive seasons?

[skully]

Each worked in a similar place but not necessarily exactly the same.

Yes, they usually wear a uniform.

They are seen in multiple season. 2 are in consecutive seasons.

[MrsK]

Does the uniform clearly identify the profession?
Is it a profession that requires a college education? Post-graduate education?
Is it an occupation that is primarily practiced by males?
Are they Clark's age? Older or younger?

[skully]

The uniform fairly clearly identifies the profession.

College education.

Males would be more common but female versions are not uncommon.

The 3 "theys" referred to are all a fair bit older than Clark.

[MrsK]

Are any of them seen, or are they only referred to?
Are any of them referred to by name?

[skully]

They are all seen.

One is referred to by name.

[skully]

Bueller?

[smallville84]

The three "theys" are they single episode guests?

[skully]

Yes.

[MrsK]

Recap:

One was killed.
One was iconic.
One was bribed.
They share a profession.
They are all male.
They are all a fair bit older than Clark.
They are all single-episode guests.
Each worked in a similar place but not necessarily exactly the same.
They usually wear a uniform that clearly identifies the profession.
The profession requires a college education.
Males would be more common but female versions are not uncommon.
They are seen in multiple seasons. 2 are in consecutive seasons.
They are all seen.
One is referred to by name.

Who are "they"?

Is the iconic one the one referred to by name?
Do they work in any of the following fields: law, law enforcement, government, medicine, military, education, science?
Was the one who was bribed bribed by a main? (current? ms? M/f? ever a guest? human? bearded? Clark's age?)
Do we see the death of the one who was killed, or just hear about it?
Was the killer the main villain of the ep? Someone with powers?
Who refers to the one by name? A main (current? ms? M/f? ever a guest? human? bearded? Clark's age?)? Or a guest (RG? >2, <5? M/F? Ever a main? Alive? Powers? Incarcerated? Comatose? Clark's age?)?

[skully]

No, the iconic one is not referred to by name.

None of those fields.

Yes, a main bribed one. The main is current, MS, F, never guest, human, non-bearded, a bit older than Clark. [shouldn't take long now. :)]

We see the death of the killed one. You could say the killer was the main villain of the ep. The killer did not have powers.

A main (same as above) refers to one by name.

[MrsK]

So Tess bribed one and referred to one by name. Okay. Gotta go fix dinner. Back in a bit.

[MrsK]

Tess bribed an airline pilot in Turbulence... Is that what "they" are?

[skully]

They are indeed Pilots. Well done, MrsK. You're up. :)

[MrsK]

Okay. :) Another later today.

[MrsK]

they are seen in multiple episodes
they are usually seen one at a time
they are also mentioned as a metaphor for something else

what are they?

[skully]

Are they living things?

Can they be held and lifted in one hand?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

[MrsK]

They are not living things.
They an be held and lifted with one hand.
They are not made of hard material.
They are not alien, edible, organic, or electronic/electric.
They are designed to be worn.
They can be colorful.
They are more decorative than functional.
They could be seen in any of those places if the wearer was there.
We see them in both Smallville and in Metropolis - at multiple locations, common and uncommon, day and night, indoors and outdoors.
Off the top of my head... one is seen after one is seen after Morgan Edge's death and before Alicia's; one is seen after Alicia's death and before Jonathan's. One is seen after Jonathan's and before Lionel's. Two are seen after Lionel's death and before Jimmy's. Another is seen after Jimmy's death and before Lex clone's, and at least one other is seen after Old Lex Clone's death.

[skully]

Are they worn by any mains? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

Or RGs - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, comatose, human, Clark’s age?

[xrayvision]

Are they earrings of some type?

[MrsK]

They are worn by:

Current main, MS, M, never a guest, alive, alien, Clark's age
Current main, MS, M, was a guest, alive, human, not bearded, a little older than Clark
Current main , MS, F, was a guest, alive, human, a little older than Clark
Former main, SS, F, was a guest, alive, alien, younger than Clark
Former main, MS, M, was a guest, dead, human, not bearded, a little older than Clark
Single ep guest, M, never a main, human, powers, dead, older than Clark
Single ep guest, M, never a main, human, no powers, alive, older than Clark

Not earrings

[skully]

So they are worn by Clark, Oliver, Lois, Kara, Lex, and a couple of SEGs.

Are they generally worn above the shoulders? Between the shoulders and the waist? Below the waist?

Does a main mention them as a metaphor? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

[MrsK]

Generally between shoulder and waist
A SEG mentions them as a metaphor - male, human, no powers, never a main, alive, probably a little older than Clark.

[skully]

Are they any form of jewelry?

Are they worn on the arms or hands? On the chest? On the shoulders? Around the waist?

Is it a shirt of some sort?

[MrsK]

Not jewelry.
Not a shirt.
I'd say it's worn on the shoulders.

[skully]

Maybe capes?

Clark wore one as Carlos in Thirst, Oliver wore one as the Blur in Identity, Lois wore one as Stiletto in Stiletto, Kara wore one in Supergirl, Lex wore one as Alexander the Great in Wither, actors playing Warrior Angel and Devilicus wore one in Action, Steven Swift wore one as his version of Warrior Angel, and a bunch of geeks had them at Met-Com-Con in Warrior.

[MrsK]

And don't forget Dr. Fate. Yes, "they" are capes. :)

[skully]

OK, another soonish. :)

[skully]

One was poisonous
One was referred to in slang terms
One was part of an attempt to trick a main.

What are "they"?

[MrsK]

Was someone poisoned by the poisonous one?
Are they living creatures of some kind?
Are they plants?

[skully]

Yes, someone was affected by the poisoned one.

They are not living creatures of any kind.

They are not plants.

[MrsK]

Are they something you would eat/drink?

Are they (or can they be used as) weapons of some sort?

Is the person who was poisoned a main? (current, MS, M/F, ever a guest, alive, human, bearded, Clark's age?) Or a guest (RG/SEG, >2, <5, ever a main, m/f, alive, human, powers, incarcerated, comatose, Clark's age?)

What about the person who referred to one in slang terms, the main who was supposed to be tricked, and the person doing the tricking? Same questions as above.

[skully]

They are not something you would eat or drink.

They are not a weapon, although the poisoned version could be used due to its poisonous nature. :)

The main in all three cases is the same main - current, MS, M, never guest, alive, alien, non-bearded, Clark's age.

Shouldn't take long now. :)

[MrsK]

So Clark is the main who was poisoned, he is the one who referred to one of "them" in slang terms, and he is the one who was supposed to be tricked?

What about the people doing the tricking and the poisoning?

I am having a total mental block at the moment - will have to think about it a bit. :)