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skully
01-11-2012, 05:01 PM
We are seen once.
We are seen in a single-ep location.
We weren't supposed to see something.
We are human children.
We are seen before JK's death
In Metropolis, indoors, day. Not near a common location


Who are we?



Thinking...

Any mains in the scene?

MrsK
01-12-2012, 07:00 PM
Clark and Chloe

fantom zoner
01-13-2012, 01:03 AM
Are you the kids who saw Clark and Chloe almost kiss in the elevator when they were trying to figure out where the earing was?

skully
01-13-2012, 02:25 AM
Ah, very nice, fz. That'd be the little twins. Their mother also played the part of Hiram's wife in Relic, and Lara in Memoria. :)

Long time, no see. Welcome back. :D

MrsK
01-13-2012, 07:00 PM
Are you the kids who saw Clark and Chloe almost kiss in the elevator when they were trying to figure out where the earing was?

Yes! :D

skully
01-14-2012, 04:14 PM
Nice work, fz. :)

fantom zoner
01-15-2012, 01:01 AM
Ah, very nice, fz. That'd be the little twins. Their mother also played the part of Hiram's wife in Relic, and Lara in Memoria. :)

Long time, no see. Welcome back. :D
Thanks Skully :D

Here's my new one:

They are seen quite regularly on the show
In this incident, they "went" away.
Their going away wasn't accidental
What are they?

skully
01-15-2012, 02:58 AM
Are they human?

Are they living?

fantom zoner
01-15-2012, 03:30 AM
Not human and not living

skully
01-15-2012, 12:12 PM
Are they something owned by a main? A RG?

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? A closed fist?

Are they alien, organic, electrical/electronic?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they clorful?

Can they be worn?

Are they functional or decorative?

Do we see them in the same place each time?

Do we see them at a common series location? In Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors?

Do we see them before or after JK's death?

Were they stolen (to go away)?

MrsK
01-15-2012, 02:16 PM
Is the instance when they "went" away before or after:
Roger Nixon's death?
Kyla's death?
Morgan Edge's death?
Alicia Baker's death?
Jonathan's death?
Titan's death?
Lionel's death?
Jimmy's death?
Old Lex Clone's death?

fantom zoner
01-16-2012, 04:12 AM
Are they something owned by a main? A RG?

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? A closed fist?

Are they alien, organic, electrical/electronic?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they clorful?

Can they be worn?

Are they functional or decorative?

Do we see them in the same place each time?

Do we see them at a common series location? In Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors?

Do we see them before or after JK's death?

Were they stolen (to go away)?
They are not owned by either a main or a RG.
They can not be lifted in one hand, not held in a closed fist.
They are not: Alien, organic, electrical/electronic.
They are not made of hard material, They can not be worn, and are not colorful.

Some hard questions to answer. They are not really functional or decorative.
We see them in the same place every time, but at different places.
We see them both in Smallville and Metropolis, both day and night, outdoors.


Is the instance when they "went" away before or after:
Roger Nixon's death?
Kyla's death?
Morgan Edge's death?
Alicia Baker's death?
Jonathan's death?
Titan's death?
Lionel's death?
Jimmy's death?
Old Lex Clone's death?
After Jonathan's and before Titan's

skully
01-16-2012, 11:34 AM
Are they a vehicle of some sort? Something in a vehicle?

Are they heavy? Are they fixed to the ground, or fixed to something else?

Do we see them at common series locations?

MrsK
01-16-2012, 04:52 PM
When they "went" away, did they melt? dissolve? float off? leave of their own accord?

fantom zoner
01-17-2012, 11:22 PM
Are they a vehicle of some sort? Something in a vehicle?

Are they heavy? Are they fixed to the ground, or fixed to something else?

Do we see them at common series locations?

Not a vehicle and not in a vehicle.

They are not fixed to anything.


When they "went" away, did they melt? dissolve? float off? leave of their own accord?

Float off would be the best description :)

skully
01-18-2012, 12:17 AM
Maybe the clouds Clark blew away with his newly discovered superbreath at the end of Sneeze?

fantom zoner
01-18-2012, 12:07 PM
That's it Skully. Nice job :) I thought it would take you a little longer this time....I was wrong :lol:

skully
01-18-2012, 03:20 PM
Cheers, fz. Another soonish. :)

skully
01-18-2012, 06:36 PM
They are mentioned once in the series.
They are used in reference to something.
They are not a particularly commonly used term.

What are they?

MrsK
01-18-2012, 08:12 PM
Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG/SEG?

skully
01-18-2012, 08:33 PM
They are mentioned by a RG to Lana.

MrsK
01-19-2012, 09:46 PM
Is the RG M/F? >2, <5? ever a main? human? alive? powers? incarcerated? comatose? Clark's age?

skully
01-19-2012, 11:25 PM
The RG is M, 2 episodes, was a main, not human, alive, no powers, incarcerated, not comatose, a fair bit older than Clark.

MrsK
01-20-2012, 11:12 PM
Zod? If so, he'd have had to mention them to Lana when he had taken over Lex's body...

skully
01-20-2012, 11:27 PM
Indeed. :)

MrsK
01-21-2012, 12:02 PM
Okay, then...

Are they tangible?
Living?
Electric/electronic?
Are they ever seen?

skully
01-21-2012, 04:11 PM
Tangible, living, not electrical/electronic, and seen.

MrsK
01-21-2012, 05:47 PM
Maybe foot soldiers?

skully
01-21-2012, 05:50 PM
Maybe indeed, MrsK. Well done, you're up. :)

MrsK
01-21-2012, 06:21 PM
All right. Another in a bit. :)

MrsK
01-21-2012, 08:06 PM
They are 2 separate things
They are not usually found together
They are mentioned once, in combination

What are they?

skully
01-21-2012, 08:45 PM
I'll try Reign's approach. Maybe halibut and fudge as mentioned by Lois in the opening teaser of Crimson as a description of the Clois relationship at the time?

MrsK
01-22-2012, 06:37 PM
Indeed!

skully
01-22-2012, 08:15 PM
:eek: Another stab in the dark hits the mark. Reign and I are on fire!!!! Another soonish. :D

skully
01-22-2012, 09:03 PM
They are mentioned twice in the series, and singularly 3 times.
Some were experts in these things.
Some didn't like these things.

What are they?

MrsK
01-23-2012, 08:54 PM
Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG.SEG?
Does either group of "some" include mains?
Are they ever seen?

skully
01-23-2012, 10:21 PM
They are mentioned by Lex to Clark, and Clark to a RG.

Singularly they are mentioned by Lex to Clark, by Clark to Martha, and by a RG to Clark.

Experts include Lex and Lionel

Non-likers are Clark and a RG.

They are not really seen.

MrsK
01-24-2012, 06:16 PM
Is the RG thatClark mentions them to the same RG that doesn't like them?
Fir each RG (if they are different): Male or female? >2, <5? Ever a main? Human? Powers? Alive? Incarcerated? Comatose? Clark's age?

skully
01-25-2012, 12:39 AM
Yep, same RG.

The RG is F, >5, was a main, human, no powers, alive, not incarcerated or comatose, a little older than Clark.

MrsK
01-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Okay, so They are mentioned by Lex to Clark, and Clark to S4 Lois

Singularly they are mentioned by Lex to Clark, by Clark to Martha, and by S4 Lois to Clark.

Experts include Lex and Lionel

Non-likers are Clark and Lois.


Does Clark (or someone else) SAY he doesn't like them, or do we SEE that he doesn't? What about Lois?
Are they tangible?

skully
01-26-2012, 02:15 AM
No, Clark doesn't say he doesn't like them, but it's from his delivery that he doesn't. Yes, Lois says she doesn't like them.

Tangibility is a little unclear. They cannot be touched but can be experienced.

MrsK
01-27-2012, 06:54 AM
So more tangible than, say, an emotion or an uncomfortable silence?

skully
01-27-2012, 02:14 PM
It's as tangible as uncomfortable silences. That's it, MrsK. Nice work. :D

MrsK
01-27-2012, 06:45 PM
Nice one, skully! :D Another in a bit.

MrsK
01-29-2012, 01:16 PM
Some of us are mains; some are guests
We are seen in multiple (but not all) seasons, from S1 to S10
We have one thing in common

Who are we?

skully
01-29-2012, 02:34 PM
So "we" are obviously people? Are you something like siblings? Is it something to do with relationships between people?

MrsK
01-29-2012, 03:07 PM
Yes, we are people.
Not siblings. Nothing to do with relationships between people.

skully
01-29-2012, 08:07 PM
Birthday boys or girls?

MrsK
01-31-2012, 07:46 PM
No, not birthday boys/girls

skully
01-31-2012, 08:19 PM
Who are the mains that are these?

MrsK
01-31-2012, 09:57 PM
Jonathan, Lana, Lois, Lex, Lionel

skully
02-01-2012, 01:27 PM
Anything to do with their health?

MrsK
02-02-2012, 09:00 PM
Nope

skully
02-02-2012, 09:07 PM
Hmm, what to ask?

Was Lois one of these at the same time Lana was? What about Lex and Lionel?

Was Lois at the DP when she was one of these.

Could Clark ever be one of these?

MrsK
02-02-2012, 09:25 PM
No. None at the same time.
Lois was at the DP when she was one of these.
No, Clark couldn't be one.

skully
02-02-2012, 09:37 PM
Is it work-related?

MrsK
02-02-2012, 09:51 PM
No.

skully
02-02-2012, 10:03 PM
Recap...

Some of us are mains; some are guests
We are seen in multiple (but not all) seasons, from S1 to S10
We have one thing in common
We are people
We are not siblings or anything to do with relationships
We are not birthday party boys or girls
Jonathan, Lana, Lois, Lex, Lionel are these but none of them were these at the same time
It is nothing to do with health or work
Lois was at the DP when one
Clark could not be one

Who are we?


Can Clark not be one because he is not human?

Are they maybe a superpowered human?

MrsK
02-03-2012, 11:39 AM
Superpowered humans is close enough - I was looking for humans that received kryptonian (or at least kryptonian-like) powers. :)

skully
02-03-2012, 06:30 PM
Nice one, MrsK. Another soonish. :)

skully
02-04-2012, 05:48 PM
These are mentioned 3 times in the series.
They are a common item in real life
They also have another meaning in the series.

What are they?

MrsK
02-06-2012, 09:06 PM
Are the mentioners mains/RGs/SEGs? How about the mentionees?
Are they tangible?
Are they seen as well as mentioned?

skully
02-06-2012, 09:34 PM
The mentioner is Oliver. The mentionees are Tess and a SEG.

They are tangible.

Yes, they are seen the first time they are mentioned.

MrsK
02-07-2012, 10:46 AM
are all the mentions in the same episode?
Is the SEG M/F? ever a main? human? alive? powers? incarcerated? Clark's age?

skully
02-07-2012, 12:14 PM
Yes, all in the same ep.

SEG is M, never main, human, most probably dead, no powers, quite a lot older than Clark.

MrsK
02-10-2012, 05:48 PM
Are they leeches?

skully
02-10-2012, 08:30 PM
Indeed they are. :)

MrsK
02-11-2012, 11:29 AM
All right. Another soon.

MrsK
02-14-2012, 04:58 PM
First time we saw them they were not stolen
Second time we saw them they were stolen
Third time we saw they were hidden

What are they?

smallville84
02-14-2012, 05:45 PM
Did they belong to a main? RG?
Did any mains steal them? RGs?
Were they hidden by any mains? RGs?

MrsK
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
They belonged to a main
Stolen by SEGs
Hidden by Pete

skully
02-16-2012, 03:30 PM
Recap...

First time we saw them they were not stolen
Second time we saw them they were stolen by SEGs
Third time we saw they were hidden by Pete
They belonged to a main.

What are they?


Which main do they belong to?

Are they tangible?

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? A closed fist?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Are they functional or decorative?

Did Pete hide them before or after RN's, ME's, AB's death?

Did Pete hide them at or near a common SV location? In Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors? Day or night?

MrsK
02-19-2012, 02:23 PM
Lionel
They are tangible
Individually, they could be lifted with one hand, but wouldn't fit in a closed fist
They are made of hard material
They are alien, not edible, not electric/electronic, not organic
Can't be worn
Functional
Pete hid them after RN's death and before ME's
Not a common location, in the Smallville area, outdoors, day

skully
02-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Maybe the refined meteor rock bars that Eric Marsh and the boys steal from the Luthorcorp truck early in Witness? Pete buried them later in the episode. We first saw them in Lionel's LCHQ vault in Insurgence.

MrsK
02-20-2012, 10:14 PM
That's them! :)

skully
02-20-2012, 11:33 PM
Cool, another soonish. :)

skully
02-22-2012, 01:11 AM
They are mentioned once
They are a specific version of a very common item
Something is done to them that for devious ends.

What are they?

MrsK
02-24-2012, 08:36 PM
Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG/SEG?
Do we see whatever is being done to them for devious ends?
Is the person that does whatever it is a main/RG/SEG?
Do they belong to a main?

skully
02-25-2012, 03:40 AM
Mentioned by Tess to Clark.

No, we don't see what is done to them.

The person responsible is Tess.

They do not belong to a main.

MrsK
02-25-2012, 02:15 PM
Are they destroyed? Altered?
Are they made of hard material?
Can they be lifted with one hand? Enclosed in a fist?
Are they edible? Alien? Electric/electronic?
Are they functional or decorative?

skully
02-25-2012, 07:39 PM
Altered or added to.

They are mostly made of soft material.

They could be lifted in one hand but not a closed fist.

They are not edible, alien or electrical/electronic.

They are functional.

MrsK
02-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Are they made of fabric?
Are they colorful?
Can they be worn? Intended to be?
Is the specific version seen more than once? Seen at or near a common location? In Smallville? Metropolis?

skully
02-26-2012, 07:58 PM
Made of fabric.

Not particularly colorful.

They can be worn and intended to be.

The specific version is seen more than once.

It is seen at 2 common series locations in Smallville and a recurring location in Metropolis.

MrsK
02-27-2012, 06:35 PM
Are they worn by a main, RG, or named SEG (or more than one)? On screen?
Would they be worn above the shoulders?
Above the waist?
Around the waist?
On arms/hands?

skully
02-28-2012, 01:04 AM
They are worn by a named RG on screen.

They are worn on all those areas except the hands.

MrsK
02-28-2012, 08:06 PM
So it is some sort full body covering - with a hood or headpiece?
Is it a wetsuit? Something equally form-fitting?
Is the RG M/F? >2, <5? Human? Powers? Alive? Incarcerated/institutionalized/comatose? Clark's age?

skully
02-29-2012, 12:10 AM
Full body covering (no hood). I counted the top to be on or over the shoulders.

Not a wet suit or similarly form fitting.

The RG is M, 2 eps (this is arguable, in fact on reflection is probably wrong (actually SEG). The actor appeared in 2 eps as different versions of the same character), alien, no powers, dead, much older than Clark.

MrsK
02-29-2012, 11:16 AM
That should narrow it down a lot, but I am drawing a blank at the moment. :) Will have to give this some thought later.

skully
03-03-2012, 03:37 PM
So what are these specific versions of a very common item, MrsK? :)

MrsK
03-03-2012, 09:14 PM
Is the RG Zor-El?

skully
03-05-2012, 12:39 AM
No.

MrsK
03-09-2012, 08:54 PM
Male, alien, dead, much older than Clark... Kryptonian? Kandorian? Zoner?

skully
03-10-2012, 01:50 AM
Hmm, Kandorian is probably the correct answer. Definitely Kryptonian.

MrsK
03-10-2012, 05:37 PM
Recap:

They are mentioned once by Tess to Clark.
They are a specific version of a very common item
Something is done to them that for devious ends. They are altered or added to.
We don't see what is done to them.
The person responsible is Tess.
They do not belong to a main.
They are mostly made of soft material.
They could be lifted in one hand but not a closed fist.
They are not edible, alien or electrical/electronic.
They are functional.
Made of fabric.
Not particularly colorful.
They can be worn and are intended to be.
The specific version is seen more than once.
It is seen at 2 common series locations in Smallville and a recurring location in Metropolis.
They are worn by a named RG on screen.
They are a full body covering (no hood).
Not a wet suit or similarly form fitting.
The RG is M, 2 eps (this is arguable, in fact on reflection is probably wrong (actually SEG). The actor appeared in 2 eps as different versions of the same character), alien, no powers, dead, Kryptonian (probably kandorian), much older than Clark. Not Zor-El.

What are they?

When Tess mentions them to Clark, does she mention whatever she did to them?
Is the mention in the same episode that we see the person wearing them?
When mentioned, would they be described in the plural (eg. "earrings" or "pants") or the singular (eg "coat" or "shirt")?

----- Added 17 Minutes later -----

Maybe "Jor-El's clothes" that Tess added a tracking device to? (Kandor)?

skully
03-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Jor-El's clothes it is, MrsK. Nice persistence. :D

The guest was actually the single episode Jor-El clone in Kandor. Julian Sands also appeared as the real Jor-El in holographic image in Abandoned when Clark went to the Fortress to help Lois, who'd gone there to attempt to reconcile Jor-El's and Clark's differences. :)

MrsK
03-10-2012, 06:20 PM
Okay.

They are mentioned three times
They are seen once.
When seen, reactions were mixed.

What are they?

skully
03-11-2012, 02:51 PM
Are they tangible?

Can they be lifted and held in a single closed fist?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien. edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Do they exist in real life?

Would they normally be seen in a residence, an office, a medical facility, a shop, a place of entertainment, a medical facility?

Are they seen at or near a common series location? In Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors? Day?

Are there any mains in the scene when we see them?

Are they mentioned by mains? RGs? To mains? RGs? At common SV locations?

Do we see them before or after JK's death?

MrsK
03-11-2012, 04:27 PM
They are tangible
In one form they can be held with one hand. Not a closed fist, though.
In one form they are at least partially made of hard material.
They are not alien, edible, or electric/electronic. I don't think any part of them is organic.
Cannot be worn
They do exist in real life.
They would not normally be seen in any of those places
They are seen near a common location in Smallville, outdoors, night.
Clark, Lana, Lex, Chloe and Pete are in the scene.
They are mentioned by Chloe, Lana, and a SEG. To Clark twice and Oliver once. Both mentions to Cl;ark were at common locations; the mention to Oliver was at a recurring/sort of common location.
We see them before JK's death

skully
03-11-2012, 07:37 PM
Are they seen outside the farmhouse (maybe in Jitters)?

Are they maybe fireworks, as seen at Clark's party in Jitters, and referred to by Lana to Clark at that party, by Chloe to Clark at the Torch (as a suggestion for the light Clark saw) early in Solitude, and by the tech guy on the QI Jet to Ollie in Bride after Clark and Ollie got fiesty and the guy wifi-DLed the data of the router Clark had.

MrsK
03-11-2012, 08:19 PM
They are fireworks. Nicely done. :)

skully
03-11-2012, 08:54 PM
OK, another soonish. :)

skully
03-11-2012, 10:50 PM
They are a specific version of a common everyday item
They are mentioned once in the series
They are mentioned in relation to another common everyday item.

What are they?

MrsK
03-12-2012, 07:43 PM
Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG/SEG?
Are they mentioned at a common location? In Smallville? Metropolis? Before or after JK's death?
Do we ever see them?
Are they tangible?
Are they always plural?
Can they be held in one hand? In a closed fist?
Are they made of a hard material?

skully
03-12-2012, 10:29 PM
They are mentioned by Lois to Clark.

At a common Metropolis location, after JK's death.

Yes, we see them.

They are tangible.

They don't have to be plural, but in this case are.

Yes, they can be held in a closed fist.

They are not hard material.

MrsK
03-13-2012, 05:38 PM
Seen in the same scene as the mention?
Are they alien? edible? Electric/electronic?
Seen at the DP?
Is Lois holding them?

skully
03-13-2012, 07:16 PM
Yes, same scene as mention.

They are not alien, edible, electrical/electronic.

Seen at the DP.

Lois is not holding them.

MrsK
03-13-2012, 07:52 PM
Is Clark holding them?
Are they on a desk?
Seen in the bullpen?
Does Clark work at the DP at the time of the mention?

skully
03-13-2012, 08:41 PM
Clark is not holding them.

They are not on a desk.

I think it is in a room adjoining the bullpen.

Clark works at the DP at the time of the mention.

MrsK
03-13-2012, 09:41 PM
before or after Jimmy's death? OLC's?

skully
03-14-2012, 02:45 AM
After Jimmy's and before OLC's death.

MrsK
03-14-2012, 10:36 PM
Before or after Lois met Dr. Fate?

skully
03-14-2012, 10:43 PM
After Lois meets Dr. Fate.

MrsK
03-14-2012, 10:58 PM
Are they made of paper? fabric? rubber? soft plastic? gel-like material? sponge? cardboard? organic material?

skully
03-15-2012, 12:28 AM
They are made of lots of things - just about every one of those could be part of them.

MrsK
03-16-2012, 05:06 PM
Is one of them made of all those things, or is each one made of only one or two components?
Are they seen in Legends, Warrior, or Charade?

skully
03-16-2012, 05:47 PM
Each of them is made of multiple components and materials.

They are not seen in any of those episodes.

MrsK
03-16-2012, 08:42 PM
I have absolutely no idea! Will have to think about it after the rewatch.

skully
03-19-2012, 01:32 PM
How's that thinking going, MrsK? :)

MrsK
03-19-2012, 10:14 PM
No progress whatsoever! :o

Is the location a supply room? File room? Phone booth? Elevator?

skully
03-19-2012, 10:25 PM
File room would be a reasonable description. :)

skully
03-21-2012, 01:35 AM
As a hint, MrsK, you probably need to revisit an answer to one of your questions. You are probably eliminating something that may help.

It's to do with the death question. :)

skully
03-24-2012, 07:18 PM
*cough*

MrsK
03-25-2012, 12:39 PM
Recap:

They are a specific version of a common everyday item
They are mentioned once in the series
They are mentioned in relation to another common everyday item.
They are mentioned by Lois to Clark.
At a common Metropolis location, after JK's death.
Yes, we see them.
They are tangible.
They don't have to be plural, but in this case are.
Yes, they can be held in a closed fist.
They are not hard material.
They are not alien, edible, electrical/electronic.
They are seen at the DP in the same scene in which they are mentioned.
Lois is not holding them.
Clark is not holding them.
They are not on a desk.
I think it is in a room adjoining the bullpen - maybe a file room.
Clark works at the DP at the time of the mention.
They are seen after Jimmy's and before OLC's death.
They are seen after Lois meets Dr. Fate.
Each of them is made of multiple components and materials (could be any of: paper, fabric, rubber, soft plastic, gel-like material, sponge, cardboard, or organic material).
They are not seen in Warrior, Legends, or Charade.

What are they?

From your last clue, I'm guessing they are seen in Lazarus. Will go check that scene...

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----

Dust bunnies?

skully
03-25-2012, 03:58 PM
Hehehe, nice work, MrsK. They are indeed dust bunnies. :D

MrsK
03-25-2012, 10:10 PM
A recap always helps! :)

Another tomorrow.

MrsK
03-26-2012, 06:22 PM
They are a specific version of a very common item
They are seen many times
They are mentioned three times

What are they?

skully
03-26-2012, 07:06 PM
Are they tangible?

Can they be held and lifted in one hand? A closed fist?

Are they made of hard material?

Are they alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can they be worn? Designed to be?

Are they colorful?

Are they functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them mainly in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Titan's, Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG/SEG.

Are they mentioned at a common series location in Smallville? Metropolis?

MrsK
03-26-2012, 07:48 PM
They are tangible
Can be held and lifted in one hand, but not a closed fist
Not made of hard material
Not alien, edible, electric. Probably made of an organic material
Can be worn and designed to be
Not especially colorful
Functional
Could be seen any of those places
We see them in many locations in Smallville and Metropolis, indoors and out, day and night, common locations and uncommon locations
These specific ones are all seen after ME's death through the end of the series
Mentioned by Lois to Clark and Lois to Kara
Mentioned at a common location in Smallville, a common location in Metropolis, and a single ep location not in Smallville or Metropolis

skully
03-26-2012, 08:44 PM
Would a male or female usually wear them?

Worn above the neck? Above the shoulders? Above the waist? Below the knees?

Hmm, Lois and Kara don't have that many conversations from memory? Have to have a think.


How about jeans, as mentioned by Lois to Kara (Kara borrowed Lois's more than once) in Fracture and Lois to Clark in Echo, i.e. some replaceemnt jeans for the cut-offs she made for their monster truck date that didn't happen. :)

MrsK
03-27-2012, 09:34 PM
Yes - Lois's jeans. :)

skully
03-27-2012, 09:59 PM
Cool, another soonish. :)

skully
03-28-2012, 06:12 PM
They are a specific version of a common everyday item.
They are mentioned once in the series.
They are mentioned a little sarcastically.

What are they?

MrsK
03-28-2012, 09:00 PM
Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG/SEG?
Does the mention occur before or after JK's death? At or near a common location? In Smallville? Metropolis?

skully
03-29-2012, 01:54 AM
Mentioned by a RG to Clark.

The mention occurs after JK's death, at a recurring Metropolis location.

MrsK
03-29-2012, 12:11 PM
Is the RG M/F? >2, <5? Ever a main? Human? Powers? Alive? Incarcerated/Hospitalized or comatose? Clark's age?

skully
03-29-2012, 01:28 PM
M, >5, was a main, human, now powers, alive, not incarcerated, comatose or hospitalized, a bit older than Clark.

MrsK
03-29-2012, 05:10 PM
Oliver?

So it is mentioned in S6...

Are they tangible?
Can they be lifted with one hand? Enclosed in a fist?
Are they made of a hard material?
Are they alien? edible? electric/electronic? Organic?
Is the mention at a common location? In Smallville? Metropolis?

skully
03-29-2012, 06:05 PM
Yes, Oliver is the RG.

They are tangible.

Can be lifted in one hand, and not quite a closed fist.

Made of soft material.

Not alien, edible, electrical/electronic, but probably made of organic material.

Mentioned at a recurring location in Metropolis.

MrsK
03-30-2012, 11:25 AM
Is the recurring location Oliver's apartment?


Are they Clark's "tighty-whities" - mentioned in Justice when Clark goes to Oliver's apartment and demands to know where Bart is?

skully
03-30-2012, 07:42 PM
That's them, MrsK. Well done. :)

MrsK
03-31-2012, 12:13 PM
Okay. Another soonish. :)

skully
04-04-2012, 02:57 PM
*cough*

MrsK
04-04-2012, 06:20 PM
Yikes! Forgot about this one!

They are a specific version of something very common.
The specific version is mentioned once.
In a more general sense, they are mentioned several other times.

What are they?

skully
04-05-2012, 04:13 AM
Tangible?

Holdable/liftable in one hand? A closed fist?

Always plural?

Made of hard material?

Wearable? Designed to be?

Colorful?

Functional/decoractive?

Alien, edible, electrical/electronic, organic?

Are they seen?

Are the specific ones mentioned by a main/RG/SEG, to a main/RG/SEG? In Smallville? Metopolis? Indoors? Day? Common location?

Mentioned before or after JK's death?

MrsK
04-05-2012, 10:46 PM
Tangible
Would fit in a closed fist
Not necessarily plural, though usually referred to as more than one
Hard material
Not designed to be worn; I wouldn't consider them wearable
The specific version is not colorful
functional
not alien or electric. Not intended to be eaten, though I guess they could be. Organic
Yes, they are seen
Specific ones are mentioned by Oliver to Clark in Metropolis, indoors, day, common location, after JK's death

skully
04-05-2012, 11:09 PM
Made of metal, hard plastic, wood, cardboard, crystal/gemstone, rock, bone, ice, glass, ceramic? (yes, I know they aren't all organic :))

Mentioned at DP, LCHQ, Watchtower?

Mentioned before or after Titan's, Lionel's, Jimmy's OLC's death?

MrsK
04-06-2012, 09:14 AM
None of the above
mentioned at LCHQ
After Lionel's death; before Jimmy's

skully
04-06-2012, 05:16 PM
Maybe Oliver's fingernails as mentioned to Clark at LCHQ in Beast after Clark told Ollie that Davis was no longer in the grave Ollie buried him in. Ollie said "I buried that body myself. I still have the dirt under my fingernails to prove it."

MrsK
04-07-2012, 11:23 AM
That's them! Well done. :)

skully
04-07-2012, 07:59 PM
Nice one, MrsK. Another soonish. :)

skully
04-08-2012, 11:36 PM
They are mentioned once in the series
They are intangible
They are a metaphor.

What are they?

MrsK
04-09-2012, 06:41 PM
Are they mentioned by a main/RG/SEG? To a main/RG/SEG?
Are they mentioned at a common location?
Are they mentioned before or after Lex is possessed by Zod?

skully
04-10-2012, 02:19 AM
They are mentioned by Lana to Chloe.

They are mentioned at a recurring location.

They are mentioned after Lex is possessed by Zod.

MrsK
04-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Is the recurring location in Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors? Day?
Before or after Lex and Lana's wedding? Their divorce?

skully
04-10-2012, 08:02 PM
Metropolis, indoors, night.

After the wedding and divorce.

MrsK
04-10-2012, 10:06 PM
So sometime in S7?
Is the common location the Isis Foundation? the DP?
Are they usually plural when they are referred to?

skully
04-11-2012, 12:50 AM
Yes, S7 and at Isis.

In the way they are mentioned, they are always plural.

MrsK
04-11-2012, 08:25 PM
Maybe at the end of Wrath?

skully
04-11-2012, 10:15 PM
No.

MrsK
04-12-2012, 06:57 AM
Hm. Not a lot of Chloe/Lana scenes at Isis, especially at night... Was anyone else there (main/RG/SEG)?

skully
04-13-2012, 03:15 AM
We see 2 SEGs and a RG (although this may be arguable). :)

MrsK
04-13-2012, 05:04 PM
Arguable that we see the RG, or that the person we see is a RG?
Is the supposed RG M/F? Ever a main? >2, <5? Alive? Human? Powers? Incarcerated? Hospitalized/comatose? Clark's age? good/bad?
Are the SEGs M/F? Alive? Human? Powers? Incarcerated? Hospitalized/comatose? Clark's age? good/bad?

Is it the scene when Chloe first discovers the Isis Foundation in Cure?

skully
04-14-2012, 09:47 PM
Arguable that the person is a RG. This person has been seen more than once in the series but it is unclear if any roles were the same person.

The supposed RG is F, never main, the actress appeared >2<5, alive, human, no powers, free and healthy, probably a little older than Clark, good.

I think you are thinking of the right scene, MrsK, but it wasn't in Cure. Chloe and Lana didn't interact in Cure nor did Chloe go to Isis in that ep.

MrsK
04-15-2012, 01:17 PM
Ah - you are tight, of course. It was in Lara. I guess I need to watch S7 again to refresh my memory!

So the RG is the receptionist?

Are "they" right angles?

skully
04-15-2012, 05:18 PM
Yes, the scene is in Lara and the RG is the receptionist.

Not right angles.

MrsK
04-15-2012, 06:15 PM
I didn't think that was right, but I watched the scene and didn't come up with anything else. Back to watch again! :)

skully
04-17-2012, 03:35 PM
No luck, MrsK? :)

MrsK
04-17-2012, 07:03 PM
How about grassroots?

skully
04-17-2012, 07:19 PM
They are Grassroots, MrsK. :)

MrsK
04-17-2012, 07:27 PM
All right. Another soonish! :)

MrsK
04-18-2012, 09:42 PM
They are located in numerous locations
They are seen only occasionally
They are useful, but they also pose a risk

What are they?

skully
04-19-2012, 12:10 AM
Tangible?

Held and lifted in one hand? A closed fist?

Made of hard material?

Alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Wearable? Designed to be?

Colorful?

Functional or decorative?

Would they be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see them in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see them before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

Any mains in the scenes that we see them?

MrsK
04-19-2012, 06:59 AM
Tangible.
Would not fit in a fist, but could be held with one hand
Made of hard material
Not alien, edible, or organic. They are electric/electronic.
functional
They could be seen in any of those places
They are located at various locations in both Smallville and Metropolis throughout the series. In most cases we see the evidence that they are there rather than the actual items. Will have to track down scenes where they are seen.

skully
04-19-2012, 02:28 PM
Made of metal, plastic, glass, crystal, ceramic?

Is the risk they pose due to radiation, or possible electric shock?

MrsK
04-19-2012, 05:58 PM
Probably both metal and plastic components, with some glass as well.
No, those are not related to the risk they pose.

skully
04-19-2012, 08:24 PM
Do they pose a health risk, or some other form of risk?

Maybe a radio?

MrsK
04-20-2012, 06:44 PM
Some other form of risk

Not radios

skully
04-20-2012, 07:33 PM
A risk to security, Clark's secret, financial, political, property damage?

Are they plugged in to a powerpoint?

Are they normally/always seen indoors?

MrsK
04-20-2012, 07:35 PM
They are a risk to Clark's secret.
I think they would be plugged in.
They can be seen indoors or out. On the show, probably more common indoors.

skully
04-20-2012, 07:50 PM
Are they seen in Smallville AND Metropolis?

Are they a risk to Clark's secret because they won't work on him, can't pierce his skin, or affect him in some way?

MrsK
04-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Yes, Smallville and Metropolis

No, not a risk for those reasons

skully
04-21-2012, 04:18 PM
Hmm, what to ask?

Are they an appliance of some sort? A piece of medical equipment? Miltary equipment? Police equipment? FBI/CIA/DDS equipment? Superhero equipment? Office equipment? Lab equipment?

MrsK
04-21-2012, 04:51 PM
Not an appliance. Not medical equipment. Not superhero equipment. They might be found in an office or a lab, but I would say they are office or lab equipment. Police or FBI/CIA/DDS might make use of them.

skully
04-21-2012, 04:55 PM
Maybe CCTV cameras or associated video equipment? They could be used to capture Clark in freeze frame or while doing his Blur duties?

MrsK
04-21-2012, 05:08 PM
Yes, security cameras.

You're up! :)

skully
04-22-2012, 03:24 AM
Cool, another soonish. :)

skully
04-22-2012, 07:13 PM
They are mentioned 3 times in the series.
I don't believe we ever see them.
They are of significance in one episode.

What are they?

MrsK
04-23-2012, 05:23 PM
mentioned by mains/RGs/SEGs? To mains/RGs/SEGs?
Are any or all of the mentions in the same ep in which they have significance?

skully
04-23-2012, 05:50 PM
Mentioned by Jonathan to Martha twice, and by Clark to Martha.

The other 2 mentions are not in the same ep as the one this pronoun has some significance.

MrsK
04-23-2012, 06:21 PM
Would they be seen at the farm if we had seen them?
Are they made of a hard material?
Are they alien? edible? electric/electronic?
Would they fit in a closed fist? Can they be lifted with one hand?
Are they functional or decorative?

skully
04-23-2012, 07:19 PM
Yes, they would be seen at the farm if seen.

They are made of hard and soft material.

They are not alien, not generally edible, not electical/elctronic.

They would not fit in a closed fist, nor can they be lifted with one hand.

They are functional.

MrsK
04-23-2012, 11:08 PM
Are they alive? (plant or animal?)
Are they some sort of farm equipment?
Are they mechanical?

skully
04-24-2012, 01:30 AM
Parts are them are alive - plants would be closest.

Not farm equipment.

Nothing mechanical.

skully
04-24-2012, 10:57 PM
Bounce.

MrsK
04-25-2012, 08:27 PM
Would they be seen in the house/barn/loft? Outdoors?
Do all the mentions take place at the farm?

skully
04-26-2012, 02:24 AM
They would not be seen in the farmhouse, barn or loft.

They would be seen outdoors.

All mentions take place at the farm.

MrsK
04-26-2012, 06:29 PM
Parts of them are alive, and plants would be the closest description... No clue!

When Clark mentions them to Martha, is it before or after Roger Nixon's death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia's? Jonathan's? Titan's?
Is this the mention that is in the ep when "they" are important?
Are Clark and Martha in the house when he mentions them? Barn? Loft?

skully
04-26-2012, 09:04 PM
Clark mentions them to Martha after Titan's death. This is not the ep that "they" have a significant role in.

Clark and Martha are in the house when he mentions "them".

MrsK
04-27-2012, 04:07 PM
Clark to Martha between Combat and Phantom... Are "they" the back 40?

skully
04-27-2012, 06:35 PM
They are indeed the Back 40, MrsK. Well done, you're up. :)

MrsK
04-27-2012, 07:47 PM
Nice one, skully! :D

All right. Another soonish.

MrsK
05-04-2012, 08:31 PM
Sorry for the delay - and thanks for the reminder that I needed to post a new question!


Two are dead
Two attempted murder; one succeeded
One wanted something from Lex

What are they?

skully
05-07-2012, 02:30 PM
So they are humans?

Are they Luthor relatives? Friends? Employees? Clients? Enemies?

Some specific meteor freaks?

MrsK
05-07-2012, 03:05 PM
They are human There is s Luthor connection - I guess relatives would be accurate Not meteor freaks

Arbar
05-07-2012, 03:12 PM
Did they appear in more than one epsiode each?(Newbie here - hope it's okay that I'm asking a question :) )

skully
05-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Of course it's OK, Arbar. Welcome aboard. :D

Are they relatives on Lionel's side of the family, or Lillian's, or both?

MrsK
05-07-2012, 06:32 PM
Did they appear in more than one epsiode each?(Newbie here - hope it's okay that I'm asking a question :) )Welcome to the game, Arbar!

One appeared in multiple episodes
two appeared in separate single episodes

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----


Of course it's OK, Arbar. Welcome aboard. :D

Are they relatives on Lionel's side of the family, or Lillian's, or both?
One would be on Lillian's side, I guess.

skully
05-07-2012, 07:28 PM
Are they Lex clones?

MrsK
05-07-2012, 08:59 PM
Nope.

skully
05-08-2012, 02:11 AM
Darn, thought it fitted nicely.

So there are 3 of these?

What about different aged versions of Lex? Alexander (Fracture, Descent), Lex in Memoria and Lex in Reunion.

MrsK
05-11-2012, 06:51 PM
No, they aren't any kind of versions of Lex.

skully
05-13-2012, 04:33 AM
Are they different aged versions of Julian?

MrsK
05-13-2012, 01:58 PM
Nope. Perhaps narrowing down gender would help...

skully
05-13-2012, 04:13 PM
Heh, are they female?

MrsK
05-13-2012, 04:32 PM
Yes, they are female.

skully
05-13-2012, 04:58 PM
Are they wives, girlfriends, aunts, sisters, grandmothers, cousins?

MrsK
05-13-2012, 06:26 PM
Of whom? One is a wife, 2 could be considered girlfriends, but that's not completely accurate.

skully
05-13-2012, 06:52 PM
Of Luthors.

Maybe the mothers of Lionel's children? Lillian (Lex and Julian), Rachael Dunleavy (Lucas), and Pamela Jenkins (Lutessa)?

MrsK
05-13-2012, 08:24 PM
Yes! :D

skully
05-13-2012, 08:37 PM
Nice one, MrsK. :) OK, try this...

They are mentioned twice.
They are not specifically seen.
They are crucial to the plot of several episodes.

What are they?

MrsK
05-13-2012, 08:47 PM
Mentioned by main/RG/SEG? To main/RG/SEGs?
Are the episodes all in the same season?

skully
05-13-2012, 09:09 PM
Mentioned by a RG to others (2 SEGs and Clark), and by a RG to a SEG.

Yes, the episodes with the mentions are in the same season.

MrsK
05-14-2012, 07:09 PM
Are the mentioners M/F? >2, <5? Ever mains? Human? Powers? Alive? Incarcerated? Comatose? Clark's age?
Are the SEGs with Clark named? M/F? Human? Alive? Powers? Clark's age?
Are the episodes consecutive?

skully
05-14-2012, 11:57 PM
Mentioner 1 is M, 2 eps, never main, alien, powers, alive, not incarcerated or comatose, a bit older than Clark. The SEGs with Clark are named, one M, one F, alien, alive, powers, maybe around Clark's age. :)

Mentioner 2 is M, >2<5, never main, human, no powers, alive, not comatose or incarcerated, older than Clark.

The episodes are not consecutive.

MrsK
05-15-2012, 02:12 PM
Is Mentioner 2 Winslow Schott? (although I thought he was incarcerated when we saw him last, so maybe not). I think Sam Lane also fits the description, but he wasn't in S8...


I'm thinking Mentioner 1 is Rokk Krinn - in Legion.

skully
05-15-2012, 05:39 PM
Mentioner 2 is not Winslow Schott, nor Sam Lane.

Mentioner 1 is Rokk Krinn in Legion. :)

MrsK
05-17-2012, 08:21 PM
Maybe Dr. Grohl?

skully
05-18-2012, 02:03 AM
Maybe. So they are...? :)

MrsK
05-18-2012, 08:44 PM
Nanites?

skully
05-19-2012, 05:33 PM
Indeed. :)

MrsK
05-21-2012, 12:21 AM
All right - from memory (will double check tomorrow)

They are fairly common, but I think only seen once on Smallville.
They are not relevant to the plot of the episode in which they are seen.
They are seen in a single ep location.

What are they?

skully
05-21-2012, 03:50 AM
Tangible?

Holdable and liftable in one hand? A closed fist?

Made of hard material?

Alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Wearable? Designed to be?

Colorful?

Functional or decorative?

Seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see it before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

Any mains in the scene that they are seen?

MrsK
05-21-2012, 11:04 AM
tangible.
could be held with one hand but not in a fist
made of hard material
not alien, edible, or electric/electronic. May or may not be made of organic components - I don't think so, though
not wearable
decorative
not particularly colorful
not seen in any of those places
night - not inside a building, but not really outdoors, either.
After ME;s death and before Alicia's
Jason and Clark are in the scene

skully
05-21-2012, 03:55 PM
Made of metal, hard plastic or synthetic, wood, crystal/gemstone, glass, ceramic, ice, wood, bone, brick, rock/stone or hard human material?

MrsK
05-21-2012, 05:12 PM
hard plastic, I think, and some metal

skully
05-21-2012, 07:21 PM
Are they seen in Smallville? Metropolis? Anywhere near a common series location?

MrsK
05-21-2012, 07:50 PM
In Smallville near a common location