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Ray Man
06-29-2009, 04:16 PM
I am wondering if there are any people out there that think that Lois should've been brought into the show sooner or later. Me? I am glad that she showed up in Season 4 (it gave her and Clark some time to know each other), but I think that it might've been better if she showed up in the Finale for Season 4 and meets everyone after they graduate, and she and Clark go into Journalism class at College or came in in Season 5 and meets everyone there.

What do you guys think though?

6-Super-Man -5
06-29-2009, 04:18 PM
Your idea sounded pretty good, I wish that happened.

Night_Hawk90
06-29-2009, 04:19 PM
i think she should have arrived in season 7, season 4 was way too early too introduce her seeing as her character was pretty useless (except for commencement) in season 4

Chlollie
06-29-2009, 04:22 PM
i think she should have arrived in season 7, season 4 was way too early too introduce her seeing as her character was pretty useless (except for commencement) in season 4

I agree. I think Season 4 was way to early more like Season 8 would have been better.

Ray Man
06-29-2009, 04:22 PM
We couldn't be expected that they'd fall for each other like that when they work at the Daily Planet though. If they would've pushed back her introduction, we might've seen Clois at Met U. ^-^

Selina
06-30-2009, 11:46 AM
I think she came in at the right time. Seasons 1-3 were fantastic but I honestly could not imagine seasons 4-7 without her.

Lois Lane has bought that much needed energy into a show that's supposed to be about hope. Just take a look at some of the angsy and depressing storylines we've had over the last few years? Her character has given the show the much needed balance. In no way has she been useless though. The chemistry between herself and Clark has been electric and while she hasn't been at the centre of big storylines in the same way Chloe and Lana have, her journey has been great to watch. We've seen her evolve over the years to the woman we see today at the DP.

Smallville6
06-30-2009, 11:55 AM
I dont understand why people always use the excuse that Lois came in too early. Does that mean Lex came too early too, even though he was there in the begginning? And most of those same people are always talking about how SV is an interpretation and does things differently. Lois did have a reason to come in- to build a relationship with Clark (remember? The main character of the story?) so she wasn't useless. IMO her coming in too early is often used as another excuse for people not to like her because they have nothing else to not like her for.

wingster55
06-30-2009, 12:16 PM
Definetly too early. Well it was fine for her to show up looking for Chloe but the situations they used to keep her there were contrived and ridiculous.

lana 9
06-30-2009, 12:28 PM
i think lois should come on smallville in season 5

Night_Hawk90
06-30-2009, 03:22 PM
I dont understand why people always use the excuse that Lois came in too early. Does that mean Lex came too early too, even though he was there in the begginning? And most of those same people are always talking about how SV is an interpretation and does things differently. Lois did have a reason to come in- to build a relationship with Clark (remember? The main character of the story?) so she wasn't useless. IMO her coming in too early is often used as another excuse for people not to like her because they have nothing else to not like her for.

i said she was useless in season 4 honestly what did she do so amazing in that season? nothing, it was in season 5 that she had more of a story so she was useless in season 4. I always associate lois coming to smallville as to when it lost its direction im not saying shes bad (though im not fond of her),im just saying when she arrived the whole show took a major nosedive (putting it on the writers/producers/showrunners_

dru-zod2501
06-30-2009, 03:33 PM
If it was up to me, I would only have used her for a handful of episodes in the entire series. Save the meat of their lives together for the post-SV time. As long as they knew who each other was that's all that was necessary. And don't tie her to Chloe either

9-SOSIHTWB
06-30-2009, 03:35 PM
Season 4 was the right time, I'm glad they never left it any later!
It wouldn't have worked if they had her in season 1-3!!

Ray Man
07-05-2009, 06:27 PM
^ Deffinetly!!!

Exedore
07-05-2009, 06:47 PM
i think she should have arrived in season 7, season 4 was way too early too introduce her seeing as her character was pretty useless (except for commencement) in season 4

I agree. Season 4 was way too early for her entry. Other then perhaps a cameo in S4 (1 episode), I think Lois should have arrived around S7 (preferably second half). Lana should have ended in S4 and they should have shown the full college years instead of just doing it for half a season. :\ They could have even explored some mermaid love in the college years with some Luma or Lyla or Lasil thrown in. Perhaps even some Chlark on the side. Keep things fresh you know. :lol:

I think the first meeting between Lois and Clark should have been at Met U in a journalism class. Perhaps at a special lecture delivered by Pulitzer prize winning journalist Perry White. ;) Maybe they could have even worked on a report for their class/university paper together (neither of them actually wanting to be partners in the beginning). That would have been a better way to start off their story. :)

llk6165
07-05-2009, 08:50 PM
I would prefer to have seen her come on the scene after Clark grew up. The end of this season would have been perfect. IMO.

A Flawed Fashion
08-06-2009, 07:59 PM
I didn't mind that she came in so early, but it would have worked for her have to left after that episode with the scene on the football field where Chloe watches Clark and Lois flirt to an Avril Lavigne song. It was perfect innocent chemistry that would showcase their future relationship.

Then, I would have had her return in season six having shown some character growth. At the same time Lana could be written out as the romantic lead for Clark (for good) and Clark and Lois could flirt some more while he realized Lana wasn't right for him. Ultimately, it could lead into the the first half of season 8, which I loved.

Of course, Lois has always been my favorite character, so I don't mind them having her in the show so early and staying around.

6157
09-02-2009, 04:07 AM
I am wondering if there are any people out there that think that Lois should've been brought into the show sooner or later. Me? I am glad that she showed up in Season 4 (it gave her and Clark some time to know each other), but I think that it might've been better if she showed up in the Finale for Season 4 and meets everyone after they graduate, and she and Clark go into Journalism class at College or came in in Season 5 and meets everyone there.

What do you guys think though?

I could see this working nicely.

However, I really have no complaints with her being brought in as Chloe's cousin to investigate Chloe's "murder." It wasn't forced or had to be written in, it seemed like a natural order of events.

shelby62
09-03-2009, 08:06 PM
I don't think season 4 was too soon. I just wished that she had been more involved in seasons 6 and 7.

MjLaDy08
09-20-2009, 09:36 PM
I think so...

But I change my mind after they show the 1st episode... I'm glad that they did... SV became better upon Lois showing up...

Aalliya
10-20-2009, 04:58 PM
no way... she completely brought a ray of happiness to the show :) her scenes with Clark are electric and some of the funniest I've ever scene.. I dig banter .. .besides - if Lex is there... then it's totally ok for Lois to be there .. imo

SVrockschar89
10-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Nah I defo don't think it was too early to introduce Lois at the beginning of season 4, she brought great energy and vitality to the show when she did come, it was great to see her. And I LOVE SV's take on that Clark and Lois meet before he becomes Superman, its never been done this way before and their journey has been sooo unique and intriguing from the word go that I'm sooo glad they did their own take on it and it worked out pretty DARN BRILLIANT IMO. SV's Lois and having her meet Clark at high school age is just sooo interesting, that SV's CLOIS is my favourite incarnation of it ever :D:D:cool:.

SupermanRox
11-06-2009, 10:33 AM
No, Lois' entrance to SV was not too soon....Lana's exit just wasn't soon enough IMO.

Nanda Lane
11-06-2009, 10:46 AM
No, Lois' entrance to SV was not too soon....Lana's exit just wasn't soon enough IMO.

This. Lana should have stay in Paris. Think about all the storylines that we would live without: the witch arc, Clexana, the kryptonite suit...

Young Superman
12-04-2009, 12:21 AM
I am wondering if there are any people out there that think that Lois should've been brought into the show sooner or later. Me? I am glad that she showed up in Season 4 (it gave her and Clark some time to know each other), but I think that it might've been better if she showed up in the Finale for Season 4 and meets everyone after they graduate, and she and Clark go into Journalism class at College or came in in Season 5 and meets everyone there.

What do you guys think though?
Your idea is better then what the show actually did.

funky_town021
12-04-2009, 12:30 AM
i voted no because i thought the timing was right. the only thing i could say is that i wish Lois and Clark started a fling in Season 4, i would've liked to see that. i dont know, like maybe love at first sight or something

Tinyeppy
12-05-2009, 11:37 PM
I personally think it was the right time, but they should have started the fling in S4 and love in S5.

SV worst mistake was having Clana way to long & having Lois linger watching it.

supercatmom
12-08-2009, 12:40 PM
In the context of SV YES.

I've have posted about this before.

It took 3 seasons for Al/Miles to get Lois on SV and with all the restrictions put on the charactor of Lois at the time, i.e. no hint of romanance between her and Clark, they did not know what to do with her.

So they made her a non-virgin, hard drinking, ex-smoker and a muffin peddling college drop out.

nuff said

As a life long Lois Lane Fan, this was had to take.

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rebecavaldez
01-08-2010, 08:33 PM
I think the timing was great, but maybe she should have stayed in high school with Clark, Chloe, and Lana...

jayesse8
03-23-2010, 03:09 PM
In the context of SV YES.

I've have posted about this before.

It took 3 seasons for Al/Miles to get Lois on SV and with all the restrictions put on the charactor of Lois at the time, i.e. no hint of romanance between her and Clark, they did not know what to do with her.

So they made her a non-virgin, hard drinking, ex-smoker and a muffin peddling college drop out.

nuff said

As a life long Lois Lane Fan, this was hard to take.

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I agree, it seems, with several folks here ... Season 4 was too soon to forcibly insert Lois into their lives. But, I realize TPTB wanted to bridge the gap from Smallville into Superman canon - and they probably had no guarantees of how long the show would continue at that time. I just watched seasons 1-8 last summer, and it was really interesting and amazing to witness the whole arc of the show and character growth. I think senior year in high school in Smallville was too soon. They could have and should have cleanly played out the Clana and Chlark teen angst (perhaps instead of revisiting both in later seasons / episodes) and done the bridging in Season 5. But, like I said, who knew then how long the show would go on for us as it has ... :)

utguardian
06-09-2010, 11:55 PM
No, Lois' entrance to SV was not too soon....Lana's exit just wasn't soon enough IMO.
Exactly my feelings on the matter.

Exedore
06-09-2010, 11:59 PM
Definitely.

Tinyeppy
06-10-2010, 08:00 PM
I think it was too soon if CK was still so damn obsessed with Lana who was suppose to be over after S4 since it's was HS graduation & mythos has Lana dumping CK's wedding proposal & confessing the truth to her. She was clear she didn't want to be with him b/c she was looking for some else then having a life in SV.

CK heartbroken goes to college & hooks up with Lori.

I just didn't like Lois seeing CK's Clana obsession for 4 years.

I agree Lana should have left at the end of this season.

About Lois's character written she is written to be more experienced then CK & it's some what the same in comic. Lois has had more relationships then CK b/c she more mature, curious, independent & raised to be a boy tuff & ruff willing to try anything 1st. Lois is no sweet innocent angel as Lana should have remained. This is part of Lois Lane. Sexual appeal & she knows how to use it to get what she wants.

Cage
06-10-2010, 08:30 PM
She was only supposed to be on the show for 4 eppies - the fans wanted her soo badly that she was written -

Looking at her character today - she morphed incredibly - a hat tip to the writers and ED - The fans saw CK closer to Supes with Lois around - in retrospect they could have done it differently - but hey! they played the cards they were dealth

Season 9 was awesome -hopefully, if it is to be wrapped up in 10 - they continue the transition as awesome as season 9.

Supsfan
06-10-2010, 10:17 PM
The fans saw CK closer to Supes with Lois around

While I guess you could argue he was more Superman like with Lois around, I think it was just a case most Lois episodes were devoid of any angsty storylines where we see Clark hating his life, depressing about stuff or blaming himself for everything.

In general I love alot of Lois & Clark focused episodes in S4 just because they had that more light hearted feel to them that I thinks works much better in the context of a Superman based storyline. I loved every episode that ended with a Lois and Clark scene in S4 because every one of them(Crusade, Facade, Devoted, Krypto and Lucy) always ended on a happy note which is not the norm for the show

smallville forever
06-11-2010, 03:16 AM
i think its grate that we got lois in season 4 it realy lets us see them bound and sparks off the connection they will have for each other in latter life.

Bingo
06-14-2010, 06:59 PM
So,it`s not ok for a character named "Lana Lang" to stay in Smallville,and that she supposed to be "just" a high schooll sweetheart,nothing more than that,because the comics say so
BUT
it`s totally fine for Lois Lane,to not only came way before her time,but also dated clark when he`s not even Superman,yet?

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious,but i`m not really a fan of Double Standard :(

momo6995
05-28-2011, 09:53 AM
I always thought that the perfect scenario was to bring her in for 1 episode of season 4 and have Clark sort of see her a little bit but then save her for Clark actually meeting her at the DP a little later. I can't argue that they brought her in though in S4 because she was always my favorite character.

Superboogie
05-29-2011, 03:33 PM
So,it`s not ok for a character named "Lana Lang" to stay in Smallville,and that she supposed to be "just" a high schooll sweetheart,nothing more than that,because the comics say so
BUT
it`s totally fine for Lois Lane,to not only came way before her time,but also dated clark when he`s not even Superman,yet?

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious,but i`m not really a fan of Double Standard :(
So what about make it a compromise: 5 seasons of Lana and 5 seasons of Lois (if only that would have happened)?

But seriously, the double standard is assuming Lois is not ok to appear before Clark is Superman while still having Jonathan dead, Lex in Smallville from the beginning as Clark's friend, Lana being anything more than a highschool crush, having Chloe as some Clark's advisor, Doomsday, Zod, the list can go forever.

harryandginnyfanatic
06-02-2011, 02:07 AM
Perfect timing.

Who better to partner with Clark to find Chloe than Lois?

actaeon
06-05-2011, 07:56 AM
I only wish she had been introduced sooner...

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
06-05-2011, 08:16 AM
The fans saw CK closer to Supes with Lois around

I liked her influence to Clark...but it got out of hand in S10 and she became the star of the show. Mostly due to her high episode count and that Clark wasn't written well.

luckycloisfan
06-05-2011, 09:02 AM
I liked her influence to Clark...but it got out of hand in S10 and she became the star of the show. Mostly due to her high episode count and that Clark wasn't written well.

I think that was the REAL problem. Well, through out the entire series! Chloe and Lana were in every episode in past seasons AND they were the stars of the show! Lana seasons 5, 6, 7... Chloe was the star in Season 8.


I don't think that Lois was introduced into the series TOO SOON, but that Lana/Chloe were KEPT on the series for FAR too long! They should have both left after Season 4. Or at least been in college and OUT of Clark's daily life. That was the real problem. It was not Lois' fault that Clark was written to be so co-dependent on Lana and then Chloe that he couldn't think for himself or act in a rational manner.

Lana and Chloe were written to be WAY too important at the EXPENSE of Clark. Whereas Lois, otoh, always supported him, didn't run him down regularly, or lie to him, get with other guys while he was pining for her, control his super-hero life or generally tell him what to do and not to do!

Although, I might have had a LOT of issues with this series and thought that Season 10 was TERRIBLY mismanaged... Lois arriving in Season 4 or ED having 22 episodes in S10 was in no way the CAUSE of this series many failures! The PTB did that MANY TIMES, when she wasn't even around like in Season 8 :rolleyes:


Lois' friendship, banter, competitiveness, caring, concern, and absolute devotion for CLARK... where the things that absolutely made this series WORTH WATCHING, imho :) Glad she came around!

indy1jones2
06-05-2011, 11:08 AM
The sooner the better. Bye Lana.

Jelly
06-05-2011, 11:32 AM
As much as I love Erica Durance and her portrayal of Lois..I think it was too early. Or they should showed her only in 4 episodes as they originally planed and let her finish university and became a journalist so she could start working at DP. Lois grew into interesting character in season 8. She was indispensable since than

jsm
06-05-2011, 11:37 AM
I've always thought Lois was introduced too early. She really didn't do anything important during seasons 4-7 in terms of story arcs: In season 5, she was Jonathan's campaign manager for a few episodes; In season 6, she was Oliver's love interest; In season 7, she was Grant's love interest. I would have introduced her in Season 8, when Clark started working at the Daily Planet. They could have been investigating together during that season and have the same type of friendship they had in season 4. One of the sub-plots of Season 9 could still have been Lois' infatuation with the Blur. Then maybe at the end of season 9 or halfway through season 10 show the first signs of attraction between Clark and Lois. But Clark wouldn't reveal his secret to her until the series finale, when he gives her the first interview.

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
06-05-2011, 12:04 PM
Chloe was the star in Season 8.

Although, I might have had a LOT of issues with this series and thought that Season 10 was TERRIBLY mismanaged... Lois arriving in Season 4 or ED having 22 episodes in S10 was in no way the CAUSE of this series many failures! The PTB did that MANY TIMES, when she wasn't even around like in Season 8 :rolleyes:

I disagree with S8 but in any case I think it had the strongest writing when it came to Clark's character. Sure there were hiccups along the season but overall it was a season done right minus the finale.

Lois having 22 episodes in S10 is a huge problem because she didn't have any rhyme or reason for appearing in a great many episodes. She just bogged some of the episodes and made Clark look bad. "Patriot" being a good example. The writing plus ED's acting made her a scene stealer imo. It's unforgivable in a show about Clark. We didn't even get to see bada$$ Lois or intrepid reporter Lois to make up for it. JMO.

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I've always thought Lois was introduced too early. She really didn't do anything important during seasons 4-7 in terms of story arcs: In season 5, she was Jonathan's campaign manager for a few episodes; In season 6, she was Oliver's love interest; In season 7, she was Grant's love interest.

I think Lois' character was handled right in S4-6 and again in 8 and 9. 7 was awful and 10 was just overindulging and focusing on the Lois & Clark: The Lois Lane Chronicles.

joan Tyler
06-05-2011, 12:41 PM
I got to admit I would never started watching without Lois.I do wonder what they would have done with the other girls,if she wasn't there. It never was going to be about what
the guys want.. It was from the beginning about relationships. I Liked season 8 until
Lana came back.. It was a soap opera sorry guys...but I still enjoyed what ever Lois I could get.

KMRR16
06-07-2011, 09:07 AM
I only wish she had been introduced sooner...

This i agree with.

Ankhara
08-06-2011, 08:21 PM
Nope. It was the right time. :D I got used to read comics with Alternative Universes and Elseworlds depicting this kind of scenario so, no. I remember one comic with Clark and Lois meeting when they were babies, a story when Lois meets Clark during a summer camp -or something like that-, other when Clark meets Lois (I think it was high school or college) while trying to get a 'job' in the Daily Planet (it was some kind of contest for internship, and Clark managed to get the job. Lois was pissed off!). :rotfl:

Erica was supposed to appear for like 4 episodes, people really liked her, so she became a regular even if her name wasn't on the credits of S4. Although she began as a supporting character, she was one of Clark's pillars -able to stopping him from moping, making him laugh when the situation was sad or depressing and making him believe that he could be happy, and everything would be alright if he trusted his gut and had faith in himself-. She never cared about knowing Clark's secret, and she gave some awesome advice to Chloe and even Lana. :D

A Flawed Fashion
08-21-2011, 08:05 PM
As much as I love Lois, I'm glad she wasn't introduced before season 4. That would have been too early.

I'm also glad she wasn't introduced later. Sometimes now I'm a bit separated from how much I used to love Clois, but her character made this show so much fun for me. I love her and I loved season 4 Clois, so I'm glad she wasn't introduced later.

Supermania
08-24-2011, 06:36 PM
As much as I love Lois, I'm glad she wasn't introduced before season 4. That would have been too early.

I'm also glad she wasn't introduced later. Sometimes now I'm a bit separated from how much I used to love Clois, but her character made this show so much fun for me. I love her and I loved season 4 Clois, so I'm glad she wasn't introduced later.

I agree, I think that without Lois to liven and humour things up, Season Four would have turned out pretty dull. It helped lighten the tone of the season that the producers were aiming for.

custard cream
10-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Firstly, I'd just like to point out that the producers didn't KNOW they'd last 10 seasons and so it's easy for us to look back now and say things like "this character was introduced too soon" or "they should've done this differently" but it wouldn't have been easy back when it was only on its fourth season.

However, now that we can look back here's what I think should've happened in regards to Lois Lane and Clark Kent.

I loved loved loved their first meeting and I wouldn't change the time or place at all. What I would change is how long Lois stayed after that. In my opinion, having Lois only there for the first 2 episodes would've been a much better way to go about introducing Lois Lane. It would've made their first meeting that much more important to the show and given a bigger impact to her return in a much later season. How? Well if Lois had only been in those 2 episodes then they would stick out as being the only 2 episodes in Smallville with LOIS LANE. If Lois turned up again in a later season we'd all think back to those 2 episodes and the same excitement we'd had then would've come rushing back. I think just having the knowledge of Lois Lane's existence in the Smallville world, would've been much more effective than dropping countless not so subtle hints foreshadowing her and Clark's future relationship. In other words, less is more.

Now, before I carry on (yes there's more) I'm going to refer back to what I said at the beginning about the producers not knowing how long the show would last. Had they known, then perhaps they wouldn't have brought Lois back until season 8/9 when Clana was finally over and done with. I say this because having Lois present during the Clark and Lana rollercoaster ride was a mistake if they wanted to one day start Clois. By having Lois there yet not having Clark see her in a romantic way until Lana was gone, made Lois look like second best. I don't think the producers meant for this to happen but there you have it. It is just an illusion though, I suppose the real reason Clark never saw Lois until Lana left was because he was still just a boy (emotionally and mentally at least). However, it was still an unlucky accident that could've been avoided if they had either ended Clana sooner or... sent Lois away until Clark was ready for her.

However, a down side to that would've been not getting to see Lollie because even though I'm a Clois fan, I did enjoy the Oliver and Lois relationship and I think it's probably the only smallville relationship that ended well (or at least as well as a relationship can end). So, had things gone my way (which they didn't until season 9, not that I'm bitter), Lana and Clark would've ended in season 5, Lois would've turned up again in season 6, Oliver and Lois would've had their fun while Clark got over Lana, and then in season 8 Lois and Clark could've made the same start they made in the actual series.