Pete ross was a white guy in the comics

[Anu]

Why is that any different? Pete Ross was black in smallville. But Jimmy in Smallville is too old to play the role. I just see that as an excuse.

[Timester]

Pete is not even on the show anymore.

[Exedore]

Probably because SV's "Pete Ross" is not the iconic "Peter Joseph Ross". Notice the difference in names. The real Pete is someone else who will become part of SV history after Lois resets the timeline.

[Darkside]

Pete like someone said he is gone. So it doesn't matter anymore.

[xrayvision]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

[LJ-90]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

I second that.

[Dominicus]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.Haha! Brilliant!:D

[wafflles87]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

I totally agree.

Wanna line up with the mythos? Why stop at Jimmy? Just erase ALL the characters and replace them with their mythos counterparts.

Or better yet, erase the whole show, erase it's interesting twist on classic stories and instead replace it with a Superman show where Bizzaro is an imperfect clone, Lois meets Clark AT the DP after Clark is Supes, Chloe doesn't exist, Doomsday doesn't have a human side, Lex doesn't know Clark's secret, Bart Allen and Cyborg are not close to Clark's age. I'm waiting for all of this and more to happen next season. Y'know, since apparently we're "aligning with the mythos" :rolleyes:

[Spirit Detective]

They'll somehow find a way to make Pete white.
Kryptonite bleached his skin or something.

[Mrs. Superman]

With the way PS explains things (and the fact Pete hasn't been on the show in a while) they'd probably just introduce a new actor as Pete who looks like his comic book counterpart and expect us to accept this as the same Pete we saw in the first couple of seasons.

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Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.
:lol: Yes, I'll be waiting for these changes as well!

[dotsie23]

They'll somehow find a way to make Pete white.
Kryptonite bleached his skin or something.

Or chewing all that Stride gum contributed to it.;)

[LJ-90]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.


Hey, they'll probably teel us that his real name was Pete José Ross. At that his cousin his the iconic Pete. :rolleyes:

[xrayvision]

They'll somehow find a way to make Pete white.
Kryptonite bleached his skin or something.

Turning Pete into Smallville's Michael Jackson isn't something that would surprise me anymore. :\

[itashy]

pete was black in was interpertation and he was second in command to lex luthor as president and pete was married to lana and had a daughter...theres usually different races that switch between comic artists and stories...take nick fury for example...

[last man of krypton]

pete was black in was interpertation and he was second in command to lex luthor as president and pete was married to lana and had a daughter...theres usually different races that switch between comic artists and stories...take nick fury for example...

The changes between the white Nick Fury and the black one is a result of a different universe of Marvel comics, ie the 616 universe which the majority are familiar with and the Ultimate universe where new twists are put on classic stories (such as Venom being created by Peter Parker's dad). In that sense, Smallville is (or should be) similar; stories and characters that we've known for 70 years now have a modern spin. It doesn't affect the regular DC Universe, but allows some creativity instead of being bound by the "mythos".

[Kid Collins]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

Awesome! :lol:

[amberdawn]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

:rotfl: I just love you!

[zorasuperman]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.



LOL You're forgetting Shelby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't Shelby supposed to be a "he" in the comics!!!!
So expect a sex change as well soon to be retconned!!!! I expect that to be changed as well :D

[amberdawn]

Shelby was originally a male on the show, then a female. We've had two retcons this season. :lol:

[Honey45]

I think Pete Ross from the show IS the iconic Pete Ross.

I think the whole "Jimmy was too old on Smallville" thing is just an excuse made up by the people who make the show. Of course they're not going to say "We couldn't think of anything better so we decided to kill Jimmy at the last minute, even though it was lazy and didn't make much sense." They have to say "Jimmy was too old! We had no choice! We HAD to kill him!" so the audience isn't as pissed off.

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Shelby was originally a male on the show, then a female. We've had two retcons this season. :lol:

Wait.. Are they referring to Shelby as a girl now on Smallville?

[amberdawn]

Wait.. Are they referring to Shelby as a girl now on Smallville?

Yeah, Lois referred to Shelby as a girl in "Stiletto".

[dotsie23]

Turning Pete into Smallville's Michael Jackson isn't something that would surprise me anymore. :\

:lol::lol::lol:

[justme_007]

Probably because SV's "Pete Ross" is not the iconic "Peter Joseph Ross". Notice the difference in names. The real Pete is someone else who will become part of SV history after Lois resets the timeline.

Everything is possible :\

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Yeah, Lois referred to Shelby as a girl in "Stiletto".

So shelby is not the iconic shelby anymore :lol:

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Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

:lol: brilliant!

ALL has to be retconned jejejje except Chloe because i just love her character :D and neither clana ;)

[Supermania]

Why is that any different? Pete Ross was black in smallville. But Jimmy in Smallville is too old to play the role. I just see that as an excuse.

It doesn't matter what the character looks like. I think the reason they made Pete black was to be inclusive to black people, because it could be considered racist otherwise. I would totally agree with this. Maybe they ditched that politeness somewhere along the road, but whether or not Lana is black-haired or Pete is black, the heart and the soul of the characters is still there and, perhaps more importantly, it is their interpretation of the Superman saga. Guess what? There have been many interpretations of Superman's story. Ahem, the original Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster stories, John Byrne's Man of Steel, Mark Waid's Birthright and the soon-to-be-released Secret Origin by Geoff Johns. They are all different in their own way. So, why people continuously complain about how the story and characters differs from the comics is beyond me.

[ChErRy]

At this point, after what they did with Jimmy, I'm waiting for the series finale to have Superman storming into the Daily Planet, punching the Clark Kent we've known for 8 years in the face, and casually sitting down at his desk to reveal he's the mytho Clark.

For all we know nothing we've seen is real.

[berniepooh]

Peter Ross was the childhood Best Friend of Clark Kent. Who cares whom is cast to play the character so long as he is talented and does a great job. Sam Jones III created a great Pete Ross character.
See past the skin color folks. Sam Jones III is a wonderful talent and I've enjoyed everything I've seen him do.

[Violet-Shadow]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

:lol: Thank you so much for posting this!

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At this point, after what they did with Jimmy, I'm waiting for the series finale to have Superman storming into the Daily Planet, punching the Clark Kent we've known for 8 years in the face, and casually sitting down at his desk to reveal he's the mytho Clark.

For all we know nothing we've seen is real.

:rotfl: Oh, wouldn't that be hilarious? I can see it now...

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Peter Ross was the childhood Best Friend of Clark Kent. Who cares whom is cast to play the character so long as he is talented and does a great job. Sam Jones III created a great Pete Ross character.
See past the skin color folks. Sam Jones III is a wonderful talent and I've enjoyed everything I've seen him do.

People are just making a point here: if Jimmy's age was a problem, even though he had all the Jimmy Olsen iconic traits, then Pete's skin color should also be a problem. Lana's hair color. Lois living with the Kents while she and Clark were both teenagers. The Kents being too young. The list goes on and on.

[Boycott SF:Movie]

Peter Ross was the childhood Best Friend of Clark Kent. Who cares whom is cast to play the character so long as he is talented and does a great job. Sam Jones III created a great Pete Ross character.
See past the skin color folks. Sam Jones III is a wonderful talent and I've enjoyed everything I've seen him do.

Well Kingpin was white and they made him black. Isn't Green Lantern black now too. Nick Fury was changed to black. There's the Black Superman Steel. We'll probably see a black Spiderman too.

It's like white producers are like "Them kids love those negros so let's cast him black."

White people need their heroes too.

If your white stay white.

I'm not racist, I love all people.

[berniepooh]

Whatever!!! When people are cast we should simply ask "Yeah, but can they act?

[Boycott SF:Movie]

Any actor can act good. I would rather have a "ok" actor that looks more like the characters. Anna Paquin? That 70's Show guy? WTF?!

[berniepooh]

Any actor can act good??? Can't agree with you on that. I feel exactly the opposite.

[moviefan2k4]

OK, so the purpose of this thread was for nothing more than a ton of not-so-subtle whining about Jimmy's death scene, and ridiculing the writers for it. I understand now...but its all rather immature, if you ask me.

[Violet-Shadow]

OK, so the purpose of this thread was for nothing more than a ton of not-so-subtle whining about Jimmy's death scene, and ridiculing the writers for it. I understand now...but its all rather immature, if you ask me.

People are allowed to be upset about what happened to Jimmy. And this thread brings up valid points. I haven't seen anyone "whining" or "ridiculing" but rather discussing in an angry tone and criticizing the writers/producers for what happened. I have seen people who feel genuinely misled about Jimmy Olsen. If this forum isn't to discuss all these things, then what is it for?

There are many threads about why the claim to be aligning with mythos doesn't make sense though. I think people are missing all the other ones that have already brought up these points.

[LJ-90]

People are allowed to be upset about what happened to Jimmy. And this thread brings up valid points. I haven't seen anyone "whining" or "ridiculing" but rather discussing in an angry tone and criticizing the writers/producers for what happened. I have seen people who feel genuinely misled about Jimmy Olsen. If this forum isn't to discuss all these things, then what is it for?

There are many threads about why the claim to be aligning with mythos doesn't make sense though. I think people are missing all the other ones that have already brought up these points.

What she said.

[Boycott SF:Movie]

What she said.

What they said.

Damn! My post count sky rocketed just making fun of this episode!

[amberdawn]

OK, so the purpose of this thread was for nothing more than a ton of not-so-subtle whining about Jimmy's death scene, and ridiculing the writers for it. I understand now...but its all rather immature, if you ask me.

:rolleyes:

[nic25]

Well Kingpin was white and they made him black. Isn't Green Lantern black now too. Nick Fury was changed to black. There's the Black Superman Steel. We'll probably see a black Spiderman too.

It's like white producers are like "Them kids love those negros so let's cast him black."

White people need their heroes too.

If your white stay white.

I'm not racist, I love all people.

:eek:


Any actor can act good. I would rather have a "ok" actor that looks more like the characters. Anna Paquin? That 70's Show guy? WTF?!

:eek:

[HalJordan4184]

It doesn't matter what the character looks like. I think the reason they made Pete black was to be inclusive to black people, because it could be considered racist otherwise. I would totally agree with this. Maybe they ditched that politeness somewhere along the road, but whether or not Lana is black-haired or Pete is black, the heart and the soul of the characters is still there and, perhaps more importantly, it is their interpretation of the Superman saga. Guess what? There have been many interpretations of Superman's story. Ahem, the original Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster stories, John Byrne's Man of Steel, Mark Waid's Birthright and the soon-to-be-released Secret Origin by Geoff Johns. They are all different in their own way. So, why people continuously complain about how the story and characters differs from the comics is beyond me.


I have one issue with all of this.

The heart and soul of the characters, simply isn't there in Smallville. If you take the characters as they are in Smallville, and tried to put them in the comic universe, they become immediately unrecognizable in ANY age, as being those characters. You can take Byrne's Man of Steel, and put him in the Silver Age, and he still ACTS, and THINKS, and FUNCTIONS like the Silver Age Superman, in most regards. Sure, Byrne's Superman identify's more with human culture, then the silver age Superman. That was the twist taht made the story different. However, both characters, are immediately recognizable as Superman.

Smallville's characters just aren't. Smallville's Clark Kent acts nothing like Clark Kent in any other medium ever did, or would. Smallville's Lana is nothing like any other version of Lana Lang. Pete Ross, is not Pete Ross. That's the problem. Not that it's a fresh spin, or new take. It's just a completely different story entirely, trying to capitalize on the name brand power of Superman.

[amberdawn]

Again, good post, Jerry.

[Billy Jor-El]

Well, ya know, the whole story should be thrown out if we go this way. Although I haven't read the most recent comics out there, the ones I remember do not have Clark developing his powers as he grows up; even baby Kal-El can lift a car off of Dad. So we've invalidated the whole series, Eh? Some liberties with the story line are to be accepted, but obviously the total re-write is riling more people than enchanting them.....

[Mr.Magic]

Well, ya know, the whole story should be thrown out if we go this way.

I've been peddling that for years, but no one listens. Just end Smallville aka Superman: The Soap Opera Years already and give us a real Superman show.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

You know what? I agree with everyone here...

They did replace Pete Ross...with Chloe

[dijonaise]

Pete is a character who in the comics was part of Clark Kent's life before he became Superman and is still part of Clark's life after he becomes Superman.

So by not having him in Clark's life now is straying from the mythos. I'm now waiting for the death scene where Pete Theboss Ross is killed off & replaced by Pete Joseph Ross.

Lois isn't the real Lois. The real Lois doesn't meet Clark until he arrives at the Daily Planet after already becoming an established reporter. Not only did this Lois know Clark since his last year in highschool but he's also not an established reporter when she met him.

And Lana, oh my, she couldn't be further from the real Lana if she wanted to be. The real Lana has red hair and wasn't the love fixation of Clark's like SV's Lana was. She was more of a highschool crush. She certainly didn't end up with superpowers, marrying Lex, or doing any of the other ridiculous things she did. I think we will find out that either Martha Kent or Lillian Luthor is the real Lana.

Jonathan & Martha aren't/weren't the real Jonathan & Martha either. In the comics, they were at least 20 years older when they found Clark than they were on this show. Time to bring a new set of Kents.

I seriously expect all these changes to be made. If Jimmy's age is such an issue then these things plus everything that happened between Clark & Lex, Clark not wearing glasses, and all the villians he fought before becoming Superman have to all be retconned since these are much bigger issues.

PERFECT!

yeah - let's kill off the pete we all now know, make his little brother the "real" pete - but he's still black - so let's make some kind of kryptonite explosion happen that switches his soul with some random white bystander. now THAT will make it all line up:rolleyes:

it's a buncha CRAP that they're really that concerned witht he mythos.

hey writers, at this point, we don't care whether or not it all lines up with the traditional mythos - why don't u try just focusing on GOOD WRITING first - it will overshadow any skewing off course of the mythos!

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OK, so the purpose of this thread was for nothing more than a ton of not-so-subtle whining about Jimmy's death scene, and ridiculing the writers for it. I understand now...but its all rather immature, if you ask me.


immature? we're grown people talking casually about a flying man from krypton who shoots fire from his eyes and (eventually) does it wearing underwear on the outside of his spandex pants.

in light of this, NOTHING is immature.

and, i digress, in light of the bad writing we've seen thus far, (season 4 (witches, magic stones, lana possessed, etc.), anyone?), complaining about one of the good things (jimmy) being taken away from us can't be called immature.

[Red Kal-El Biatch]

PERFECT!

yeah - let's kill off the pete we all now know, make his little brother the "real" pete - but he's still black - so let's make some kind of kryptonite explosion happen that switches his soul with some random white bystander. now THAT will make it all line up:rolleyes:

it's a buncha CRAP that they're really that concerned witht he mythos.

hey writers, at this point, we don't care whether or not it all lines up with the traditional mythos - why don't u try just focusing on GOOD WRITING first - it will overshadow any skewing off course of the mythos!.

This guys right on the money. This show is not called 'Superman.' It is called smallville. If the writers went with all the mythos they would of ran out of things to write about a long long time ago. The one thing i do agree with is the whole lana situation, to get her out of the show they gave her fricken super powers, instead they should of put an intelligent plot to her leaving, even temporary super powers then the powers get taken away would of made alot more sense.
SUPERMAN ON RED K FTMFW

[Komsomolets]

Reading this thread its quite clear that Smallville overall seems to depart quite significantly from the traditional Superman mythos in loads of ways (a lot more than I had realised before). So in that sense why not have a black Pete? I mean if you're going to create an alternate Superman mythos/'reality' why not change a lot to make it more palatable for TV audiences - they seem to have done a good job of that.

There is a separate discussion to be had somewhere else about whether it matters to have two or more slightly contradictory Superman mythoses/realities. For instance it raises the spectre that in Smallville, Lex may really be dead (no pun intended) and never return to bedevil Superman.

Nevertheless, I must say that when I found out that the 'real' Pete was 'supposed' to be white, the Smallville Pete's casting suddenly smacked of tokenism to me (maybe its just me:rolleyes:) - as if the casting decision was made to either cater for a demographic or appear inclusive or avoid potential criticism since in the first few seasons particularly Smallville did not appear racially diverse. Then again I'm not sure it should be, can someone tell me what real smalltown Kansas is like in that sense?

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one of the good things (jimmy) being taken away from us can't be called immature.

The Jimmy we were given was pathetic, I'm glad he's gone and that Davis went with him in one fell swoop. Good riddance.

[Red Kal-El Biatch]

Yeah this post is getting a bit out there, black pete white pete yellow pete green pete, it doesnt really matter, as long as he was good in that part *which i think he was* its all good.

RED K!!!!!!!!!!!:p