Ratings for 'Doomsday' [Archive] - KSiteTV Television & Movie Forums

Ginx

05-12-2009, 05:53 PM

MOD NOTE: This thread is for discussing the ratings of the episode only. Any other topic discussion please discuss in the appropriate threads.

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suzieQ

05-15-2009, 10:39 AM

...and the season-finale of the CW’s veteran Smallville (2.2/ 4). Had the CW been in better shape, this may have been the series-finale for Smallville.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/200104911/m/781103112

SVFancross

05-15-2009, 10:41 AM

also from pifeedback

and the season-finale of the CW’s veteran Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.15 million; A18-49: #5, 1.4/ 4). Had the CW been in better shape, this may have been the series-finale for Smallville.

emphasis mine. That's hard to argue IMO.

marcella

05-15-2009, 10:43 AM

I guess it deserved the ratings it got

Kevin24

05-15-2009, 10:44 AM

Damn, only 3.15 million. It went down from last weeks episode.

BTW, since I really liked the episode it didn't get the rating it deserved in my book.

costas22

05-15-2009, 10:46 AM

Love or hate Doomsday(for me it's the latter), these ratings are horrible news. It can't be the Jimmy thing because no one knew it. Was the competition this tough? I heard about basketball and hokey games. Not to mention the Bones finale.

myankskent

05-15-2009, 10:55 AM

I hope that 3.15 million is what next season's premier gets because then season 10 will be in serious trouble. I actually think that it's a negative that so few people watched the finale because if people don't know what they missed, they might come back anyway next season.

josue_can

05-15-2009, 10:56 AM

Those numbers are not accurate.

And the finale was AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!!!

Mrs. Superman

05-15-2009, 10:57 AM

I also wanted to add that even though this second half of the season usually gets weaker ratings, there was an obvious drop off in quality from the first half to the second this season. They looked like they were going somewhere this season, and its a shame it ended the way it did last night. They need to bring back the fun from the first half, but with Jimmy retconned and gloomy Clark/Kal-el, that's gonna be a lot harder to do.

Aries83

05-15-2009, 11:00 AM

You know, if Neilsen as a whole was smart, they'd give EVERYBODY in the U.S. a free box just to get more accurate ratings data because even though 3.15 seems rather low, it's unfair that it all comes down to numbers that aren't even a true representation of who's watching the show.

I can't wait to see if the final rating goes up.

Edit: What they need to do is move these BS basketball games so that they air after May so that TV shows actually have a chance.

fan of the man

05-15-2009, 11:03 AM

I hope that 3.15 million is what next season's premier gets because then season 10 will be in serious trouble. I actually think that it's a negative that so few people watched the finale because if people don't know what they missed, they might come back anyway next season.

Does the shows Bones have a board? You might find a show over there youl like. I hope season 10 takes place personally.

mty09

05-15-2009, 01:36 PM

Damn, only 3.15 million. It went down from last weeks episode.

BTW, since I really liked the episode it didn't get the rating it deserved in my book.

This proves that this season should've been the last. I'm not bashing the show, I just don't want it to be canceled next year if the ratings stay low. Next year they should just end it, if CW doesn't want to cough up the doe, than Smallville should end next year. I liked the finale, but it proves to you more money = a longer DD fight. I think the fight is what made thousands of people change the channel.

Supsfan

05-15-2009, 03:36 PM

I wish I could feel bad about this. But I don't. I just hope that it convinces Souders/Peterson to think really darn hard as they approach S9, and to try and remember just what it is the show is supposed to be about. Maybe they might want to consider the fact that going darker and darker is just not where the viewers want to the show to go. And oh, yeah, its about Clark. Would be nice if they could try and remember that.

I have to agree, the darker the show gets the worse the show is in my opinion. I hope the show looks at everything that was successful in the first half and writes the whole season next season like that.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/123103112/p/6

Smallville
- 3.128 million viewers
- 2.0/3 HH
- 1.4/4 A18-49
- 1.4/5 A18-34

costas22

05-15-2009, 03:41 PM

3.13 is the final rating? Nice. Peterson and Souders need to listen to the message of the fans here. I always talk about the competition but Smallville gave up without a fight here. I agree with Supsfan about the darker tone. How many day shots did we have in Doomsday? The JL scene at the beginning and the funeral. They have to lighten up the show a bit.

smallville_is_awesome

05-15-2009, 04:43 PM

Wow only 3.15 that sucks!

6-Super-Man -5

05-15-2009, 04:46 PM

I know, for a finale, man, thats horrible.

THEcrownsMINE

05-15-2009, 04:48 PM

lol this ep deserves such a low rating

Night_Hawk90

05-15-2009, 04:50 PM

so did this episode get the lowest ratings ever for smallville? if thats so wow

OkiyaShuichi

05-15-2009, 04:50 PM

lower than lana arc??

mr lane

05-15-2009, 04:53 PM

does ne one have the ratings for previous finale's?

davidbrenton

05-15-2009, 05:04 PM

Wow. That's horrible.

The show was a lot worse the second half of the season. It's too bad.

OkiyaShuichi

05-15-2009, 05:06 PM

cloisthelegendbegins

05-15-2009, 05:11 PM

AppreheNsiVe

05-15-2009, 05:21 PM

It deserved that rating for the reason that , that was not the finale we anticipated , not even a bit...This was the big battle !? ...

costas22

05-15-2009, 05:22 PM

So, looks like the Doomsday storyline didn't engage the audience in a crescendo towards the finale the way it should have. Shocker.

Eternal did well. The show lost about 700.000 viewers during it's last break. I don't know if we should blame the sporting events or just the fact that this arc went downhill after Chloe shut the door in Eternal. The answer usually isn't a simple one. I said this just above, but exactly how many day shots did we have in Doomsday? 3 i believe and one of them was indoors. And this isn't just about the Doomy arc because Stiletto was like this as well. For God sakes it's spring! Lighten it up a bit!

darkone

05-15-2009, 05:45 PM

No surprise there. If not for the CW the show would be dead already. I'd feel embarassed if I were still be associated with the show. The Clark and Lois crap isn't helping either.

marcella

05-15-2009, 05:59 PM

I don't like low ratings normally, but after what they've done in this episode, it was fair

cloisthelegendbegins

05-15-2009, 06:07 PM

Eternal did well. The show lost about 700.000 viewers during it's last break. I don't know if we should blame the sporting events or just the fact that this arc went downhill after Chloe shut the door in Eternal. The answer usually isn't a simple one. I said this just above, but exactly how many day shots did we have in Doomsday? 3 i believe and one of them was indoors. And this isn't just about the Doomy arc because Stiletto was like this as well. For God sakes it's spring! Lighten it up a bit!

I agree, the breaks really didn't help. But for me the main problem is the storytelling. Last season the Veritas storyline ripped off portions of the Da Vinci Code treasure hunt/secret society/etc. because that kind of thing was popular. This year they went the route of The Dark Knight thinking it might pull in viewers. Trouble is, Superman was never as dark as Batman and never should be IMO.

But at the end of the day they dropped viewers in the breaks, lost more when they came back with storylines that didn't grab the audience and hold them and then stalled, stalled and stalled some more on the way to the finale when they were up against stronger programming. I REALLY HOPE next season is planned from beginning to end with a coherant storyline that can build to a crescendo instead of chopping and changing direction, dropping storylines that brought the audience in and then throwing in storylines that deify characters at Clark Kent's expense.

Just want to add (not directed at you Costas) I'm not even going to respond to posts that accuse certain characters of being the ones to blame for ratings. First up, I'm not interested in adolescent bickering, and secondly it doesn't matter a damn who the character is if they're written WELL, with storylines that GRAB THE AUDIENCE and RESPECT the source material.

ZODisGOD

05-15-2009, 06:18 PM

I'm very happy with that rating.

costas22

05-15-2009, 06:20 PM

I'm not even going to respond to posts that accuse certain characters of being the ones to blame for ratings. First up, I'm not interested in adolescent bickering, and secondly it doesn't matter a damn who the character is if they're written WELL, with storylines that GRAB THE AUDIENCE and RESPECT the source material.

;)

ITA. I have been on board with this ever since the Power arc. Truth be told, the writing has been the cause of all of this. I do believe that Bones' move to Thursdays along with the sporting events in March, April and May caused this drop since Legion(only one episode got above 4mil in the second half of the season). However, was a neutral viewer ever really tempted to choose Smallville over these programs? Only when they weren't on the air. Peterson and Souders have a lot of soul searching to do this summer.

Autumn

05-15-2009, 06:29 PM

Karma!!! :rotfl:

RedKRules

05-15-2009, 06:32 PM

Karma!!! :rotfl:

That´s what happens when a show fail on their fans ....

Lexsghost

05-15-2009, 06:35 PM

Yeah I saw it was lower than last week and I realized it was cuz it just wasnt an epic ending.

Bizarrolover

05-15-2009, 06:37 PM

Thank God many people didn't tune to see this crap. Chloe the hero, Clark blamed for everything again, the justice league betraying each other, Jimmy dying.

This is not the show I fell in love with, this is a show about anti heroes.

CallMeClark

05-15-2009, 06:58 PM

Not good news. Eek.

I have to say, I enjoyed the darker tone of the season, but the finale was just bad.

Jack-El49

05-15-2009, 07:39 PM

Superman's story is supposed to be uplifting. Perilous, yes; depressing and angsty, no. Once again, the first half of the season? Uplifting and positive. The second half, dark and depressing. The friggin' world is dark and depressing; we don't need to tune in to SV and see the superhero who is supposed to be optimistic and uplifting getting his heart ripped out and carries the blame for all that goes wrong because he's written to be a ball-less chump who hasn't realized there are no absolutes in life.

joesmallville

05-15-2009, 07:40 PM

The ratings have been falling for everything the last few weeks

Just Last Night:

"CSI" season finale got the lowest rating in the history of the show

"The Office" finale was it's lowest rated episode in two years.

Grey's Anatomy while doing well, was still down 18% from last year's finale

And conversely

The Lakers/Rockets game got the highest rating for a basketball game ever on ESPN. Probably doing a ton of damage to Smallville in the L.A. market.

LegendaryU2K

05-15-2009, 08:36 PM

What are the final ratings?

RepairmanBob

05-15-2009, 08:48 PM

Damn. Just... damn.

I know Smallvlle had some stiff competition (I was watching basketball live), but still. That is just... damn.

warriorrenegade

05-15-2009, 08:55 PM

Not a surprise.

BlacKryptonitian

05-15-2009, 09:00 PM

That´s what happens when a show fail on their fans ....

It gets canceled which I'm afraid is were SV is headed next season. Sad! :mad:

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The last four episode got the worst rating in Smallville history...

Somehow I'm not surprised that Stiletto got the worse ratings...that was really the worst episode of the season. Hell, even I'll admit that. HORRIBLE episode to say the least!

lm1212

05-15-2009, 09:03 PM

Wow. I'm not surprised though. And what is this about a 10th season? Yeah right...

SparkleforSmallville

05-15-2009, 10:23 PM

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil. & (No Live+7 available, ever!)

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil. & Live+7= 4.22 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil. & Live+7= 4.09 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil. & Live+7= 4.49 mil.

#18 Eternal ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.55 mil.

#19 Stiletto ~ *3.10 mil.

#20 Beast ~ *3.23 mil.

#21 Injustice ~ 3.39 mil.

#22 Doomsday ~ 3.13 mil.

Still waiting on the Live+7 for Stiletto.

BTW, KryptonSite broke it's previous record last night! At 9:15pm EST, there were 2,771 K-Siters on the boards! We are a force to be reckoned with! ;)

Dyanara

05-15-2009, 10:25 PM

I am rather surprised that it rated so poorly because people didnt know it was going to suck so bad. Injustice*Beast were much better episodes than this one.
I want the writers, producers, and everyone to get on board with one page and not have the show be cancelled with a crappy ending because everyone was expecting another season. Oh good gracious it will just be our luck that they take the poor ratings to not be caused by crappy writing but because Lana wasn't there.:eek:

SparkleforSmallville

05-15-2009, 10:36 PM

Maybe Nielsen ratings are on their way out! Fox's "Dollhouse" got a 13 episode renewal with horrible ratings and demos.

acciobrain101

05-15-2009, 10:42 PM

This is just sad...

Tabularasa

05-15-2009, 10:53 PM

Maybe Nielsen ratings are on their way out! Fox's "Dollhouse" got a 13 episode renewal with horrible ratings and demos.

I'd bet it's becase Joss Whedon is attached, plus the night it was airing on. I personally never watched, but that could be why Fox renewed it. In fact, Fox has been kind of generous as of late. It's allowing The Simpsons to continue despite falling ratings this season and it allowed Prison Break to come back for 6 episodes and end the series despite the low ratings.

tyson08

05-16-2009, 12:14 AM

Looking at the ratings, they really lost many viewers during the break between "Eternal" and "Stiletto". These breaks are really hurting the flow of the show!

Aries83

05-16-2009, 12:24 AM

Looking at the ratings, they really lost many viewers during the break between "Eternal" and "Stiletto". These breaks are really hurting the flow of the show!

I guarantee that if you and I were employed at The CW that this wouldn't be happening. Don't these damn idiots realize that when a show leaves the airwaves for that long a time, people aren't going to come back, even if it is the season finale?

I wish The CW would get it through their heads because it's definitely a factor because the first half of the season was uninterrupted. Then, the second half was split up and guess what? the ratings went down...:mad:

Kschreck

05-16-2009, 12:25 AM

I was extremely disappointed with Doomsday and not just because of the budget problems but the mediocre writing. At this point, I don't really care what ratings Smallville gets anymore.

badraven

05-16-2009, 12:54 AM

Well- the ratings were disappointing but it isn't all that unexpected or bad. Let's really dig into this.

First I've made the case before- IMO ratings are a means for fans, not an end. So as much as we would like ratings to be sky high they were good enough to get what (at least I) was wanted i.e.- more episodes of SV. Season nine is confirmed.

Second lets look at the numbers. Per my math ratings average (based on final ratings, not fast nationals or Live+7) for the season was: 3.88 million. That is down from last season's average of 4.16. However when we look at the ratings average by episode 11 of this season it stood at 4.17, by 18 it was down to 4.03 and again it ended it 3.88 with episode 22. So from the mid-point of season eight SV dropped from 4.17 to 3.88 million viewers. That's it. That's 0.29 million viewers.

Third ratings were down for a lot of shows this season. For example: Grey's Anatomy's finale was the lowest rated season finale every, down 18% from last leason. CSI posted its lowest original show rating ever, in a season finale and The Office had the lowest original rating in 2 years, and that for a season finale. Does that mean all of them got worse? Ratings were down for nearly everyone.

Fouth SV is still the top rated drama on the entire network, I'm not sure but I believe SV this week was the top rated show. The top rated show.

Fifth SV has finished it's eighth season, eighth, and is headed into it's ninth. This isn't the time when shows start drawing in large numbers of new viewers. Let's face it SV is an old show and like almost all old shows it is working off an ever shrinking auidence. That's just how television works.

And lastly I just want to say again that ratings don't mean quality. If that were so American Idol is the best show on TV today and I don't believe that. Let's not make something out of nothing.

Aries83

05-16-2009, 01:05 AM

Fouth SV is still the top rated drama on the entire network, I'm not sure but I believe SV this week was the top rated show. The top rated show.

And, as much as I don't want to say it: the only thing Smallville really has on its side is The CW's rebellious streak as far as marketing and audience targets.

Dawn Ostroff has stated many times that she doesn't want The CW to be another CBS or NBC; she wants it to branch off and away from that. So, as much as we hate her, her reasoning is probably what's keeping the network (and Smallville) on the air.

Now, if she values the show (even if it has proven to be their top scripted show), is another story entirely, but again: the fact that The CW wants to be a different brand is only helping Smallville stay put.

RaniaLovesClois

05-16-2009, 01:18 AM

I should feel sad about those ratings, but I don't.

maddib

05-16-2009, 02:50 AM

My 2 reasons for the poor ratings :

1 - that directors cut that was released at the start of the week. As mentioned on the K-site homepage, there was a lot of hype and publicity that went into this week (bout time the CW got their fingers out) and I think most, if not everyone was a bit hacked off at the length of the fight (especially given the 21 episode arc and what it should have been leading up to in the finale). That could have turned people away from watching this week, I mean how can you have an episode that had 3.39 million viewers for a good episode one week then lose 260,000 viewers during the space of a week.

2 - the CW itself, it is a well known fact, that this season the budget has been drastically cut - could be a number of reasons :
the likes of AMs salary for signing on during last summer, TW was already contracted as far as I can see so would imagine he was on the same pay as last year.
The global credit crisis, everyones been hit at the moment big time, I dont think the CW have a bottomless pit of cash.

The CW obviously gave tptb a certain amount of money to get the episode out, I just think the length of the fight was all they could come up with given what money they had. Maybe that explains the rather overplayed Jimmy and Chloe scene prior to Jimmy/Davis' death and also the unsuited to the story Lois/Tess catfight - cheap and easy scenes which wouldnt really have cost much of the budget.

My worry now is that the show may be going into the cancellation zone if it's not careful. And how can you finish off 8 years of a show with those endings.

And, as much as I don't want to say it: the only thing Smallville really has on its side is The CW's rebellious streak as far as marketing and audience targets.

Dawn Ostroff has stated many times that she doesn't want The CW to be another CBS or NBC; she wants it to branch off and away from that. So, as much as we hate her, her reasoning is probably what's keeping the network (and Smallville) on the air.

Now, if she values the show (even if it has proven to be their top scripted show), is another story entirely, but again: the fact that The CW wants to be a different brand is only helping Smallville stay put.

Easy, in the latest Smallville mag, there is a piece about how its been renewed for season 9, and also carries a quote from Ostroff saying that she wants to build the CW into a channel for the fairer sex. So to answer your question, that woman regards Smallville as a show for women only. And yes, she should wake up every morning thankful that a show such as this one exists. As far as I can see from over here in England, it is probably one of the only two shows keeping her in a job. If she wants to keep her job, she will have to fight tooth and nail to find a better budget for next year and to also learn what the definition of proper publicity is.

skully

05-16-2009, 04:23 AM

3.13!!! That's very disappointing. Maybe us hard core fans won't be able to keep the Great Show going into S10. :(

joesmallville

05-16-2009, 05:08 AM

badraven,

The average number of viewers for Smallville this season was 3.88 not 3.36

SparkleforSmallville

05-16-2009, 08:48 AM

badraven,

The average number of viewers for Smallville this season was 3.88 not 3.36

I agree, 3.88. From my Chart, I added up the Final ratings and divided by 22.

Mickey_Bickey

05-16-2009, 08:49 AM

Ratings are just going lower and lower. Disappointing much like the episode itself.

Tompouce

05-16-2009, 04:15 PM

It is really weird as we see that after Beast which was really bad people watch and after Injustice which was really really better, people were elsewhere...I really think sometimes it has to do with other events on other channels

Kid Collins

05-16-2009, 05:08 PM

There was a lot of competition for SV last Thursday. But I'm still surprised by the low rating. I expected it to increase to at least 3.4-3.5 since it's the Season Finale.

But after seeing this ep today, it deserved the rating it received. This ep sucked!

BlacKryptonitian

05-16-2009, 06:46 PM

There was a lot of competition for SV last Thursday. But I'm still surprised by the low rating. I expected it to increase to at least 3.4-3.5 since it's the Season Finale.

But after seeing this ep today, it deserved the rating it received. This ep sucked!
I'm sorry, but I don't really buy the excuse concerning competition for SV last Thursday simply because those other shows don't really appeal to your average SV viewer and thus didn't really siphoned them off.

No, the reason SV's finale got such dismal ratings--the second lowest for the season after Stiletto according to Nielson was because the episode SUCKED!

It was badly written, the Computer-Generated Imagery was horrible even comical at some points, the dialog was predictable and repetitive, the acting lazy and uninspiring especially from Tom. All-in-all it was way too OOC and boring, not to mention a major let down after all the hype.

I mean, for starters the supposed Clark/Doomsday epic fight got less air-time than the totally unnecessary Tess/Lois soap opera like cat fight and even when it did, it seemed more comical than epic.

I have to tell you Barney the imaginary purple singing dinosaur seemed scarier than Doomsday.
Finally I rated the episode a 2 and trust me, I was being kind.

petitemimi

05-16-2009, 07:28 PM

So now that S8 is over, it's officially the season with the lowest ratings of all seasons.
In the first half of the season, the average rating per episode was 4,18 and in the second half, it was 3,61; the average for the whole season was 3,9. Those numbers are those posted in here on K-site.

amberdawn

05-16-2009, 07:40 PM

I'm glad it tanked. Gives me some sort of pleasure.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

05-16-2009, 08:35 PM

You reap what you sew Smallville, hopefully this is a wake up call to PS.

I really don't see Season 10 happening.

This is what happens when you continually kick fans in the teeth

I'm glad it tanked. Gives me some sort of pleasure.

Same here

The episode was hyped out the wazoo and definitely didn't live up to that hype.

LegendaryU2K

05-16-2009, 10:43 PM

Where is the final ratings?

badraven

05-17-2009, 03:30 AM

Thanks guys- math never was my strong suit. :)

Autumn

05-17-2009, 07:19 AM

I am rather surprised that it rated so poorly because people didnt know it was going to suck so bad. Injustice*Beast were much better episodes than this one.
I want the writers, producers, and everyone to get on board with one page and not have the show be cancelled with a crappy ending because everyone was expecting another season. Oh good gracious it will just be our luck that they take the poor ratings to not be caused by crappy writing but because Lana wasn't there.:eek:

It could have been all the heavy promotion. Souders and Peterson made the episode sound atrocious IMO. I feared what was coming because of their interviews and I was right. Some, on the west coast probably looked up what happened, was horrified, and then just didn't tune in. Can't blame them. I hope the writers realize the huge backlash from Failsday!

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It is really weird as we see that after Beast which was really bad people watch and after Injustice which was really really better, people were elsewhere...I really think sometimes it has to do with other events on other channels

A lot of people liked Beast.

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I'm glad it tanked. Gives me some sort of pleasure.

Me too. :lol:

bigge3021

05-17-2009, 08:48 AM

Bones moving to Thursday has really affected Smallville and their ratings. I mean a season finale is lower than last week's episode is alarming.

rogerufo

05-17-2009, 09:50 AM

People are overlooking some strong competition that Smallville had. I live in the Los Angeles area, which is a hugh tv market. The Lakers which are very popular out here,were playing Houston during the same time as Smallville. If I didn't have dvr, I don't know what I would have done. Luckily, I watched Smallville and recorded the Laker game, as the Lakers crashed and burned, and I was able to fast forward through the carnage - worse than Clark vs Doomsday.

geminis

05-17-2009, 10:26 AM

Ouch, season 8 went out with a whimper.

I have a healthy love for my DVR as well. But unfortunately Doomsday is getting deleted from it; if the episode were better I'd have a harder time letting go.

Please God, next season rights the wrongs of the second half of season 8.

rogerufo

05-17-2009, 11:08 AM

I thought I would check out the ratings for the LA/Houston playoff game for last Thursday. It turns out that it was the highest rated basketball game in ESPN history - 5.4 (7.35 mil ) nationally. In Houston it received a 16.0 rating, and in LA it was rated at 13.0. I feel that this certainly had to have had a significant effect on Smallville's ratings. Here is a link - http://www.fangsbites.com/2009/05/game-6-of-lakers-rockets-sets-ratings.html

LegendaryU2K

05-17-2009, 12:20 PM

Can someone tell me the final ratings overall ?
(i find myself keep asking the same question lol)

SparkleforSmallville

05-17-2009, 01:05 PM

Can someone tell me the final ratings overall ?
(i find myself keep asking the same question lol)

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil. & (No Live+7 available, ever!)

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil. & Live+7= 4.22 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil. & Live+7= 4.09 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil. & Live+7= 4.49 mil.

#18 Eternal ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.55 mil.

#19 Stiletto ~ *3.10 mil.

#20 Beast ~ *3.23 mil.

#21 Injustice ~ *3.39 mil.

#22 Doomsday ~ *3.13 mil.

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Just saw, on iTunes, "Doomsday" is #6. :)

Tompouce

05-17-2009, 01:14 PM

It could have been all the heavy promotion. Souders and Peterson made the episode sound atrocious IMO. I feared what was coming because of their interviews and I was right. Some, on the west coast probably looked up what happened, was horrified, and then just didn't tune in. Can't blame them. I hope the writers realize the huge backlash from Failsday!

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A lot of people liked Beast.

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Me too. :lol:
You are right but what I wanted to say is many were angry after Bulletproof to see Lana was back and look at the ratings for Power. And one the epi we were expecting the most (Stiletto) had some "bad" ratings. Sometimes it is so weird:confused:

PatRicNasty

05-17-2009, 02:53 PM

In reference to ratings, I am really not surprised. Look at some of the shows that other networks have cancelled... Black Donnellys, Kidnapped, Threshold, Invasion, Surface, Pushing Daisies and, the worst cancellation of all... Traveller! All these shows were given rave reviews from the press but just cos the network would not give them the right promotion, they failed.
Now, look at the shows all the networks do get behind... J@GOFF REALITY SHOWS!!! I wonder what it would take to get the networks to realise that not all of us want to watch sub-human filth backstab each other for their 15 minutes of fame. Realise that there are people like us out there who like programs that make you sit up and keep you rivitted to the screen each week. Stop cancelling our shows!!!

bizzaroboy9

05-17-2009, 06:24 PM

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil. & (No Live+7 available, ever!)

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil. & Live+7= 4.22 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil. & Live+7= 4.09 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil. & Live+7= 4.49 mil.

#18 Eternal ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.55 mil.

#19 Stiletto ~ *3.10 mil.

#20 Beast ~ *3.23 mil.

#21 Injustice ~ *3.39 mil.

#22 Doomsday ~ *3.13 mil.

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Just saw, on iTunes, "Doomsday" is #6. :)

Hey, we should be getting the live + 7 numbers for stiletto soon?

Lilah

05-17-2009, 07:40 PM

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The last four episode got the worst rating in Smallville history...

You would think the writers would get the memo.... STOP RUSHING things...

curiosity

05-17-2009, 07:48 PM

A rating of 3.13? The ratings were better the first half of the season when Lois was in almost all the episodes and the other half of the new show runners were there. Maybe they should put those 2 things back.

I still love Smallville. I didn't think it was a bad episode, just that there wasn't enough build up with Lois since she's never there anymore. I'll still be watching, and hoping for more Lois and Clark. I'm sure the ratings will go back up next season.

SparkleforSmallville

05-17-2009, 08:05 PM

Hey, we should be getting the live + 7 numbers for stiletto soon?
Yeah, I keep checking, but nothing yet. Another Nielsen delay!

Just hope we get them eventually. :/

JDS2930

05-17-2009, 10:13 PM

WOW...That is a LOW rating, especially for a finale. And as has remained the case all season: Kara's episode, "Bloodline," was the highest-rated!!! :) I am hoping beyond hope that this fact combined with Kandor (the place Kara left to go and find) being part of the plot now means we will surely see at least another appearance or two of Kara. :)

Liquid-Prince

05-17-2009, 11:39 PM

Those numbers are not accurate.

And the finale was AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!!!

I agree =)

LegendaryU2K

05-18-2009, 01:53 AM

I don't believe anyone can have the correct numbers, however would be cool to hit 4 million for next season.

myankskent

05-18-2009, 10:27 AM

Bones moving to Thursday has really affected Smallville and their ratings. I mean a season finale is lower than last week's episode is alarming.

Yup, and Fox just anounced that Bones will be on Thursdays next season at 8pm, so that might be the first step to shatter the hopes for a season 10 of Smallville.

SupermanRox

05-18-2009, 12:53 PM

Yep, Bones is a great show and may indeed put a dent in SV's ratings.

superpal1

05-18-2009, 08:53 PM

I dont think they are accurate at all. I just watched it on my DVR. I was on vacation last week. What are the numbers if you include DVR watching. If some people are watching Bones live, then many are probably watching Smallville later on DVR.

WhoRU?

05-19-2009, 07:50 AM

In reference to ratings, I am really not surprised. Look at some of the shows that other networks have cancelled... Black Donnellys, Kidnapped, Threshold, Invasion, Surface, Pushing Daisies and, the worst cancellation of all... Traveller! All these shows were given rave reviews from the press but just cos the network would not give them the right promotion, they failed.
Now, look at the shows all the networks do get behind... J@GOFF REALITY SHOWS!!! I wonder what it would take to get the networks to realise that not all of us want to watch sub-human filth backstab each other for their 15 minutes of fame. Realise that there are people like us out there who like programs that make you sit up and keep you rivitted to the screen each week. Stop cancelling our shows!!!

Yeah, I understand about those reality shows, however such shows are cost effective because they don't have to pay for actors and extras or have a group of writers/screenwriters. When the writers were on strike, the networks continued with the reality shows. It's not as though they need to pay the people being filmed in real life until the actual winner at the end.

I do think that there is a strong undercurrent of viewers that are reality show viewers only and the TV networks have beaten that horse to death now. Anyway, the basketball game has the main competition on the finale, this time round. I also feel that Bones is the strongest competition now against SW. Which is why SW should keep touch with detective mystery stuff now and again. Maybe an episode with Plastic man or Elongated Man might be a fun to watch or back with MM.

Smallvillefan025

05-19-2009, 10:34 AM

Maybe they should have aired it on a different date. Wern't there other season finales of other shows on at that same time?

Also I've always wondered how they get their ratings. Can they tell if people are taping the show cause they couldn't watch it that night? What about TiVo? 2 of my friends had to work that night so they tapped it.

9-SOSIHTWB

05-19-2009, 10:39 AM

I don't believe anyone can have the correct numbers, however would be cool to hit 4 million for next season.

I really hope the numbers rise for next season, because if they don't then I can't see season 10 happening!!!

Autumn

05-19-2009, 01:35 PM

You are right but what I wanted to say is many were angry after Bulletproof to see Lana was back and look at the ratings for Power. And one the epi we were expecting the most (Stiletto) had some "bad" ratings. Sometimes it is so weird:confused:

I wasn't expecting anything from Stilletto personally (the previews made me shudder in horror but to each their own), but I think Power did well because Bones wasn't on that week, and some old fans (Clana and Allison Mack fans) decided to check it out- casual viewers that used to be loyal. And to be honest, while there are other factors that effected the ratings, the season finale with all the heavy promotion of deaths and Doomsday, should not have done this bad, even worse than the previous week. It's not like there was a break. Anyway, I'm thrilled with the bad ratings. Deserved it. I hope this ends any discussion of Smallville for season 10 soon. In fact, I personally hope the ratings go down the tube next season. I for one won't be supporting such drivel.

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Yup, and Fox just anounced that Bones will be on Thursdays next season at 8pm, so that might be the first step to shatter the hopes for a season 10 of Smallville.

Makes me love Bones more than I do already!!! :D

darkone

05-19-2009, 03:05 PM

And FOX putted Fringe behind Bones. That might also affect Supernatural. Luckily producers of that show actually have class and know when it's time to wrap up. :)

jaybyrd28

05-22-2009, 03:58 PM

You are right but what I wanted to say is many were angry after Bulletproof to see Lana was back and look at the ratings for Power. And one the epi we were expecting the most (Stiletto) had some "bad" ratings. Sometimes it is so weird

Believe me I know how easy it to read a board and that board has a consensus about something and automatically assume that it equals the rest of the worlds opinion. If you read the Transformers message boards shortly before the movie was released you had every fan boy and their brother saying that Michael Bay had better enjoy empty seats because no one was going to like seeing Optimus Prime with flames and lips. Some went so far as to claim that people in the audience would literally walk out of the theater the first time they saw Prime.

Did that happen? Of course it didn’t. My point is that why is it so “weird” to think that a character like Lana might be more popular with the audience at large than another character (I’ll assume you’re talking about Lois given you referenced “Stiletto”) just because one happens to be liked at K-Site and the other happens to be reviled?

It doesn’t surprise me at all. She’s an original character that the 8 million people who tuned into this show 8 years ago are familiar with and want to see what happens to her whether they love, hate, or are neutral about. Original characters are almost always going to be more popular than ones added to a cast later. Even hate is a form of popularity.

A rating of 3.13? The ratings were better the first half of the season when Lois was in almost all the episodes and the other half of the new show runners were there. Maybe they should put those 2 things back.

I still love Smallville. I didn't think it was a bad episode, just that there wasn't enough build up with Lois since she's never there anymore. I'll still be watching, and hoping for more Lois and Clark. I'm sure the ratings will go back up next season.

This shows biggest problems isn’t more or less of any character. Their problem with their characters is that the characterizations are starting to suck because they have to figure out a way to keep Clark out of the suit for another year. Who wants to watch their favorite character (whoever that might be) act out of character just because a plot needs to be stretched? This show has become one giant stall because they can’t put Clark in the suit until the last episode (if ever) so every season they set up a little progression but invariably by the end of the season they have to take it all back.

This is show about how Clark becomes Superman but at this point it’s almost become a perverted reverse game of figuring out ways to keep that from happening because there is another season to fill.

I dont think they are accurate at all. I just watched it on my DVR. I was on vacation last week. What are the numbers if you include DVR watching. If some people are watching Bones live, then many are probably watching Smallville later on DVR.

Which the execs aren’t going to care about. If you DVR it you’re going to fast forward the advertising.

F..l

06-06-2009, 05:05 AM

Yeah, I keep checking, but nothing yet. Another Nielsen delay!

Just hope we get them eventually. :/

still no live+7 ratings ??

griffj17

06-06-2009, 07:59 AM

I know, for a finale, man, thats horrible.

That finale was horrible.

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I think they killed the show with the whole super lana thing. And then lois as a vigilante in high heels. They are reaching really far to get new material.

SparkleforSmallville

06-06-2009, 10:30 AM

still no live+7 ratings ??

No, we left off at Stiletto. Here's the latest update:

Posted on 02 June 2009 by Bill Gorman
"It’s been almost a month since we’ve seen DVR viewing data that lets us do our calculations and publish our regular tables. We hope the flow of data resumes soon, but cannot predict when it will." :(

F..l

06-06-2009, 10:32 AM

ok, thank you for answer :)

XURON LORD OF ALMARAC

06-06-2009, 01:48 PM

is does sucks wowo 3.15 that s a let down i was expecting a little more.

Clana Kent

06-26-2009, 01:18 PM

Still no Live+7? :\ :(

Clana Kent

08-23-2009, 02:12 PM

Still no Live+7? :\ :(
Does anybody know why there are no Live+7 ratings yet? Or has the person posting these ratings not been online in the last 4 months? :p

SparkleforSmallville

08-23-2009, 04:15 PM

Does anybody know why there are no Live+7 ratings yet? Or has the person posting these ratings not been online in the last 4 months? :p

No, we left off at Stiletto. Here's the latest update:
Posted on 02 June 2009 by Bill Gorman
"It’s been almost a month since we’ve seen DVR viewing data that lets us do our calculations and publish our regular tables. We hope the flow of data resumes soon, but cannot predict when it will." :(

^^^The status hasn't really changed at the Site I get the ratings from. No retro ratings at all.
Since SV is in repeats, we will have to wait until S9 to get Live+7. Sadly, we may never know the Live+7 for Stiletto and the rest.:/

Clana Kent

08-29-2009, 02:10 PM

^^^The status hasn't really changed at the Site I get the ratings from. No retro ratings at all.
Since SV is in repeats, we will have to wait until S9 to get Live+7. Sadly, we may never know the Live+7 for Stiletto and the rest.:/
Ohh, that's too bad! :( Thanks for taking your time to answer though ;)

bizzaroboy9

10-11-2009, 05:03 PM

still no live+7 numbers??

losdrivaren

10-29-2009, 06:52 AM

It was really strange that Dommsday was much bigger in epizode 10 than he was in the "acuall" Doomsday epizode(the last epizode in season 8)
In epizode 10 a 100 of 10 possible ratings:rotfl:
And in the last epizode 2 ore 3 of 10 possible ratings:eek:
But a hope he come back and CK kicks his ass back to the stoneage(ore to big bang:D

losdrivaren

11-03-2009, 06:07 AM

yes!
But superman movies always the best!
The most known superhero in dc comics/hulk in marvel comics!

says you!