Ugh...for anybody who enjoyed it..

[bennyjr123]

I mean it wasn't a good finale, but it wasn't a bad episode. Like, the things about smallville fans that can sometimes be a little bit agitating is how over-dramatic they/we get and how unforgiven we/they are. I'm hearing people say stuff like, season 8 sucked, when two episodes ago they said season 8 rocked! And then also, "i've wasted 8 years of my life!" uhmm....so all 174 episodes suddenly suck, because of one episode? You can't define a season by one episoded. and you sure as hell can't define the series by one season either! Season 8 had it's ups and downs, and unfortunately it went down towards the end, but if you've watched as long as i have you know the writers will come up with something next year that will redeem this ONE episode. I just think people need to remember that just because show doesn't give you every single detail you want to see, doesn't make it bad. Bare with the writers who work so hard on this show.

anyone who agrees, please post your thoughts here.

[BackToTheLies]

Well, I was reading the debate in another thread about the use of cliffhangers, when I don't think that is really the issue.

If you took this episode without context then it really leaves more questions about "why?" rather than "what next?"

To me, that is very disappointing both without context and within the context of a season which, in my opinion, started off so strongly that it almost seemed like watching all previous seven seasons was just a warm up to the real show starting this year.

But in the end, the consistency of everything development-wise was not very good.

I still enjoyed watching this season very much though.

[Cyn]

I enjoyed the finale. The only thing I didn't like was that Jimmy died instead of Chloe. As for season 8, I loved the first 11 episodes and didn't much care for what followed. Now, I am excited for what season 9 brings.

[simplemath]

well something is for sure this season finale was way better than last year

[devilneedsaride]

I actually enjoyed watching it. This episode was enjoyable. It was full of plot holes and "...wait, WHAT?" moments, but overall, I had fun. That's more than I can say for the past couple of episodes, so bravo.

[Dominicus]

I wish people will stop making thread that complain about other members, that is a pointless, redundant cycle, just post your thoughts on existing thread that irks you. You have to allow for some objectivity, and consideration, in case you are unaware people do have the right to express their dissatisfaction of the turn of events, just because you don't agree with their assessment doesn't give you the right to denigrate their opinion, and tell them to stop with condescension. The complaints are legitimate, and one, or several episodes in fact this season can reflect the series as a whole.

If it's bumming you out, making you lose your optimism of the show, ignore or express what you felt was good. But don't go making threads to critique members and tell them how they should feel. And by the by, people have been complaining in droves during/after the Lana arc, and for good reasons. Just let them vent, and hopefully they'll see the silver-lining eventully.

I personally have mixed feelings, there's good and bad, but I will give the writers the benefit to see where they are going with all this hoopla! ^^

[Supsfan]

The Main Problem with this episode is they build up people hopes to high and it was a major letdown. Both deaths also came accross as pointless.

[Dominicus]

The Main Problem with this episode is they build up people hopes to high and it was a major letdown. Both deaths also came accross as pointless.Nonsensical in a word. Especially when producer etc lie about particulars just to psyche up a fan base into watching.

[Mahir]

It was a good Episode if you didn't much care for Davis and Jimmy dieing, Was better than last years final yes, i felt that one was poor.

I wish Chloe had died and not Jimmy, she deserves it, i cant stand her, she's a bigger wuss than Clark.

I kinda saw the Davis thing coming though, how can you release a human from a monster when the monster has always been there regardless of the human inside, that's called corruption from within.

It was the human that killed Jimmy yes but Davis was still as evil as he was with DD inside, he showed this by killing someone.

I hope Clark learned a lesson, indeed not everyone does deserve to be saved, to save lives. The greatest evil has to be extinguished.

[EmmaLouise]

Can anyone say "Anticlimax"? I was thoroughly disappointed by the episode as a finale. The whole season had been so promising. It had been different to anything we had seen before and the anticipation that had been building throughout the series was great!

Just the way in which everything just seemed to happen in this episode was horrible. Clark's battle with Doomsday was over way to quickly, Lois just disappeared (arguably one of the most thought provoking moments), "Jimmy" and Davis died too quickly, Jimmy's brother wasn't named (it just would have been a little better if he had in my opinion)...and what is with Zod coming back right at the end looking a lot like Davis.?!

Anyway, too much to put in, it just left me feeling a little deflated...

Roll on next season!

[Davis Bloome]

The episode was very bad, I wouldn't call it terrible... Well maybe terrible for a season finale lol. Did it ruin season 8 for me? No, but I feel that the story arc of especially Davis has been ruined a little when I will look back on it. I'm not a major Jimmy fan, but I can see how this point in the episode where it seems he wasn't the real Jimmy all along. Will the Jimmy fans look back at the last 5 seasons and think, "Oh he's not the real Jimmy, who cares...", or will they just try to overlook this part of the story and still consider him to be the real Jimmy... Either way these fans were also stabbed in the back by this episode.

[Tompouce]

I like it and to me, it is a very good finale, different but good. Except the Jimmy's death explanation which is I can understand it as an insult for many of us. For the rest, I am happy with this epi.
The only thing which annoys me A LOT it is Chloe's reactions at the end like "Look, Clark, I am staying here, Jimmy is watching me from Heaven, he found the perfect place for me, I am the watchtower. And it is true, Davis was a psychopath". Seriously ? That is all ? There is no place in her brain for guilt, questions, ...? And her "Clark, I did what you asked me" after she separated Davis from DD. Is it really what Clark wanted ? If I remember in the FOS, WHO said to him he was making a big mistake sending the "psychopath" in the Phantom Zone ? I am "on my ass" as we say here to see how she can easily forget her own choices and say to HER BEST FRIEND "it was YOUR choice". During that scene in the FOS, I was thinking "she is not the true friend we thought she was anymore". And to me, the way she said AGAIN something which makes Clark feeling MORE guilty than ever confirms that.
But to me, it was a good epi, one of my favorite finale especially for this awesome scene at the end, Clark/Tom was amazingly fantastic, this deep dark behavior, waow, I really want to know what is coming next...

[Pantalaimon]

You know, he doesn't have to be the real Jimmy to be a valuable character. That's just silly. This hasn't really changed anything about him right? Just our perspective.

[Tompouce]

I agree with you Pantalaimon, I see it like this too but I can understand people who feel insulted.

[Melekith]

If you took this episode without context then it really leaves more questions about "why?" rather than "what next?"

To me, that is very disappointing both without context and within the context of a season which, in my opinion, started off so strongly that it almost seemed like watching all previous seven seasons was just a warm up to the real show starting this year.

But in the end, the consistency of everything development-wise was not very good.I could not agree more. This season started off with all cylinders firing rapidly...and I still hold "Bride" as the single greatest episode of Smallville (to date).

To the OP...I think the rediculously high amount of hype for this finale is what led to such a gigantic letdown for alot of viewers. I wouldn't have rated it as bad as I did if I didn't already expect things to happen. HOWEVER...the actualy execution of what I already knew was very poor.

[Cogito17]

I think people can definately be overdramatic. For me, this episode was disappointing, but not bad; I just had high hopes for it which it didn't meet. Nonetheless it wasn't "bad", just not as good as I had hoped for.

As far as Jimmy, it's a no-win situation. People were unhappy that the show didn't line up with the mythos, then they do something to try line it up with the mythos, and they are unhappy.

[smallvillereporter27]

I like it and to me, it is a very good finale, different but good. Except the Jimmy's death explanation which is I can understand it as an insult for many of us. For the rest, I am happy with this epi.
The only thing which annoys me A LOT it is Chloe's reactions at the end like "Look, Clark, I am staying here, Jimmy is watching me from Heaven, he found the perfect place for me, I am the watchtower. And it is true, Davis was a psychopath". Seriously ? That is all ? There is no place in her brain for guilt, questions, ...? And her "Clark, I did what you asked me" after she separated Davis from DD. Is it really what Clark wanted ? If I remember in the FOS, WHO said to him he was making a big mistake sending the "psychopath" in the Phantom Zone ? I am "on my ass" as we say here to see how she can easily forget her own choices and say to HER BEST FRIEND "it was YOUR choice". During that scene in the FOS, I was thinking "she is not the true friend we thought she was anymore". And to me, the way she said AGAIN something which makes Clark feeling MORE guilty than ever confirms that.
But to me, it was a good epi, one of my favorite finale especially for this awesome scene at the end, Clark/Tom was amazingly fantastic, this deep dark behavior, waow, I really want to know what is coming next...

This is pretty much exactly how I felt about this episode. I thought it was good, and I gave it an 8, but my two biggest problems with it were Jimmy's death explanation and Chloe's reaction to everything at the end. She didn't even admit that helping Davis was wrong. As a Chloe fan, that really ticked me off. I hope so badly that she says something in the season premiere after she's gotten over Jimmy's death. But, she's all alone and it's partially her fault. I guess that's the writers idea of punishment...

The more I think about Jimmy's death, the more lame it gets. I laughed when I first saw it because I couldn't believe the producers would do something like that. I wouldn't mind so much if it HAD BEEN PLANNED FROM THE BEGINNING but it wasn't.

Still, this episode did not hold as much disappointment as the Bones season finale did. That made me very angry....:mad:

[devilneedsaride]

Still, this episode did not hold as much disappointment as the Bones season finale did. That made me very angry....:mad:

I hear that. I think I was much more disappointed by the Bones season finale because I was actually expecting it to be really good. I completely expected the Smallville finale to be a jumbled, senseless mess going in, so when it made half a lick of sense I was pleasantly surprised.

[Liquid-Prince]

There is not one episode of Smallville that I can think of that "sucked." I love everuy episode... Well... Except for Vampire Lana... XD

[BlacKryptonitian]

It was a good Episode if you didn't much care for Davis and Jimmy dieing, Was better than last years final yes, i felt that one was poor.

I wish Chloe had died and not Jimmy, she deserves it, i cant stand her, she's a bigger wuss than Clark.

I kinda saw the Davis thing coming though, how can you release a human from a monster when the monster has always been there regardless of the human inside, that's called corruption from within.

It was the human that killed Jimmy yes but Davis was still as evil as he was with DD inside, he showed this by killing someone.

I hope Clark learned a lesson, indeed not everyone does deserve to be saved, to save lives. The greatest evil has to be extinguished.

Your logic fails me... Where's the evidence that the human-side of Davis was "evil" at the core?

Was it the fact that he overcame his abusive and horrific upbringing... First being thrown out by Lionel and left homeless and bewildered in his preteen years only to be cycled threw the foster care system like the rest of those poor kids.

Or better yet was it the fact that he overcame all that by eventually becoming a paramedic and ending up helping countless of people in his later years?

No, I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the producers and writters... What they gave us last Thursday was pure unadulterated CRAP and the needless destruction of another worthwhile charcter...end of story!

[Kevin24]

I wish people will stop making thread that complain about other members, that is a pointless, redundant cycle, just post your thoughts on existing thread that irks you. You have to allow for some objectivity, and consideration, in case you are unaware people do have the right to express their dissatisfaction of the turn of events, just because you don't agree with their assessment doesn't give you the right to denigrate their opinion, and tell them to stop with condescension. The complaints are legitimate, and one, or several episodes in fact this season can reflect the series as a whole.

If it's bumming you out, making you lose your optimism of the show, ignore or express what you felt was good. But don't go making threads to critique members and tell them how they should feel. And by the by, people have been complaining in droves during/after the Lana arc, and for good reasons. Just let them vent, and hopefully they'll see the silver-lining eventully.

I personally have mixed feelings, there's good and bad, but I will give the writers the benefit to see where they are going with all this hoopla! ^^

It goes both ways.

[Dominicus]

It goes both ways.No, it doesn't. I'm not creating threads to discuss topics about other members.:rolleyes: I knew someone wouldn't distinguish the blatant difference, or for that matter it was advice.

[Kevin24]

No it doesn't, I'm not creating threads to discuss topics about other members.:rolleyes: I knew someone wouldn't distinguish the obvious difference, or for that matter it was advice.

Uh huh, it still goes both ways.

[Dominicus]

Uh huh, it still goes both ways.Uh, huh. No it doesn't that's your opinion that hardly has any sense. This topic was created to bash other members for having complaints, it's against the rules,and bares no signicance whatsoever on Smallville itself.

[Kevin24]

Uh, huh. No it doesn't that's your opinion that hardly has any sense. This topic was created to bash other members for having complaints, it's against the rules,and bares no signicance whatsoever on Smallville itself.

True it is against the rules. I think there is another thread that has a more disrespectful title. What I am saying is that there is a lot of basing going on both ways. It will die down soon enough and we will see more reasonable debates.

[Dominicus]

True it is against the rules. I think there is another thread that has a more disrespectful title. What I am saying is that there is a lot of basing going on both ways. It will die down soon enough and we will see more reasonable debates.That's true, I think I've seen that thread you're speaking of as well.:lol: I guess there's no point in me playing mediator, just leave it to the mods.

[The Red Aaron]

Yes one episode can ruin an entire season and even a series, depending on what happens in the episode. I will go as far as to say this. If the Smallville Series Final (last episode ever) is a piece of crap, people are going to hate the entire series because of how it ended.

[bennyjr123]

Uh, huh. No it doesn't that's your opinion that hardly has any sense. This topic was created to bash other members for having complaints, it's against the rules,and bares no signicance whatsoever on Smallville itself.

Few months late, but your taking what I'm saying the wrong way.

First of all, all the members are allowed to bash the show all they want, but I'm not allowed to express my opinion by showing how I disagree? Uh...I'm gonna go with no on that one.

As for why this topic was made. it was made for anyone who liked the episode/season as a whole and wanted to defend it. This wasn't meant to offend anyone. Just defend the show. I obviously didn't break any rules since, I haven't gotten anything from an Admin, and this topic has not been deleted. Like Kevin24 says, it goes both ways. You can say it doesn't but thats your opinion, and no matter what you say, you're wrong for saying we can't have ours.

And I'm going to stay strong on saying that you can't base a series or season on one episode. To me, Even if the series finale is terrible, you can call the show anti-climactic, but not a bad show. Just how I see it.

[Conner Kent]

I've been with the show since the first episode, and now its a relationship. Its a long one so by now we love eachother but there are moments where I just wanna break up. I dont because I know that the next episode has hope. To get back on topic, I liked the season finale, but I can agree that Jimmy dying sucked. I didn't care about Davis at all so I didn't mind him dying. I thought the plot with Davis was a little drug out. And the little boy, Jimmy's brother, good touch. I'm gonna be part of that group that says the writers getting the Jimmy Olsen character back in line with the comics was a good thing. And for all of you who say Chloe should die... shame on you. Allison and Tom are the only ones who've been here since the beginning and I find Chloe less annoying than Clark when he feels "Its all my fault." If he could, Clark would take credit for the Big Bang ruining a perfectly good nothingness. I hope the writers fix that problem with him in this season. Take credit for things you are directly responsible with, but things like the meteor showers? Clark needs to grow up. And I'm going to end this diatribe by saying... LET HIM FLY!!!!

[funky_town021]

There is not one episode of Smallville that I can think of that "sucked." I love everuy episode... Well... Except for Vampire Lana... XD

im on the same boat as you except i liked the vampire lana ep, it was entertaining. the one episode that for the first time ever didnt have my eyes glued to the screen was Sleeper, but when i got the dvd and rewatched it completely, it turned out to be an ok episode, i would defintely watch it again

[kari916]

I didn't think the season 8 finale was all that bad sure certain story arcs could have been better explained but to me it was fine.

[Tabularasa]

Few months late, but your taking what I'm saying the wrong way.

First of all, all the members are allowed to bash the show all they want, but I'm not allowed to express my opinion by showing how I disagree? Uh...I'm gonna go with no on that one.

As for why this topic was made. it was made for anyone who liked the episode/season as a whole and wanted to defend it. This wasn't meant to offend anyone. Just defend the show. I obviously didn't break any rules since, I haven't gotten anything from an Admin, and this topic has not been deleted. Like Kevin24 says, it goes both ways. You can say it doesn't but thats your opinion, and no matter what you say, you're wrong for saying we can't have ours.

And I'm going to stay strong on saying that you can't base a series or season on one episode. To me, Even if the series finale is terrible, you can call the show anti-climactic, but not a bad show. Just how I see it.

One episode can ruin an entire series. For example, if Smallville ends with an adult Clark Kent at a psychic's house looking into a crystal ball and saying that everything we saw for the last 9-10 years was what could've happened but in the end didn't, or if Clark doesn't become Superman, his distant long lost cousin Klark Kent does, that would ruin the entire series. Just like having Jimmy not be the real Jimmy pretty much ruined his entire existance on the show.

[DarkKal]

I don't think that Doomsday was that bad of an episode, it was pretty good for a rush job considering all the factors. But there was definitely a lot of stuff PS could have done differently, like not bring in Rokk for a 2 minute appearance thus wasting money that could have been used on better effects or sets. Also I really think that they should have actually shown the JLA fighting Doomsday instead of just showing them all knocked out, such a waste!

[bennyjr123]

One episode can ruin an entire series. For example, if Smallville ends with an adult Clark Kent at a psychic's house looking into a crystal ball and saying that everything we saw for the last 9-10 years was what could've happened but in the end didn't, or if Clark doesn't become Superman, his distant long lost cousin Klark Kent does, that would ruin the entire series. Just like having Jimmy not be the real Jimmy pretty much ruined his entire existance on the show.

Hm. I'll just say, for me it wouldn't ruin the entire series. Because when I say ruin, I mean never watch any of the show ever again, because it's terrible. In Other words, you can't say seasons 1-8 were terrible, because doomsday was bad. Because there obviously were good episodes unless you wouldnt have watched this far right? So the whole show isn't bad, it just went downhill.

[crumbula1]

I loved season eight. Everything. I loved the characters, even Chloe seemed less annoying to me. And I loved how Jimmy died, it made me actually think the guy was decent. I don't know, finally killing Davis, buying Chloe that awesome house, and he's had so much crap happen to him... I feel bad for the guy.