View Full Version : How are people not feeling bad for Chloe?
haydenclaireheroes
05-14-2009, 07:14 PM
Chloe.Does't anyone feel bad for her. Her whole story this season was about saving Davis but really saving clark. She did a lot of sacrifices to do this like not be with jimmy and to be very shady. But now we find out jimmy forgives her and they can live happly ever after in the beacon or should I say thw Watchtower. But the person she saved killed that. Also the other person she saved ,Clark, killed her in a way. How you may ask? He left her when she needed him the most. He always says she can tell anything to him because he will always be with her. But now he just pulls this stunt and says he is not clark kent and he is going to put the world before her. She has no one in her life Jimmy is dead. Lois is in the Future. Now clark has left to become ,what ever, Superman with out the tights. Now What? What can she do to save her self from the mess everyone gave her. She tries to save the world by saving everyone else but now they all put her on the edge and push her.
I wasn't too happy with this finale. I'm a Davis/Chloe fan, so I was really ticked to begin with, and then Clark left her and all that. ARGH!!
I'm afraid that they're going to make her into some tragic character now, she's basicly lost the three men that cared for her most!
Don't worry now she's at the watchtower she can spend some lovely time with ollie! he much prettier to look at while your working away.
By the way what happened to Ollie, Bart and Dinah?
LoisLaneJournalist
05-14-2009, 07:26 PM
Oh Come on, Give Chloe a break.......
Poor Girl!!
BtW Where`s Lois?
Baron Karza
05-14-2009, 07:27 PM
I know. I was like "poor Chloe always finds herself dead in the middle of something that looks remarkably like lumpy chocolate pudding" and then when i saw her and Jimmy reconciling I was so happy for her.
Now she's having something that looks remarkably like apple juice sprayed all over her. I wish these writers would stop that..
annad
05-14-2009, 07:28 PM
give her a break!!!
i mean jimmy die davis die..the justice league is gone
and now clark leaves her!!!!!!
after evertything she's been throught...please!!! i can't believe clark have done that!!!!
she has done eveything for him and this is the way he pays her back?????
disciples of zod
05-14-2009, 07:30 PM
I do feel bad for Chloe. Really really bad.
~H
Waiting4Superman
05-14-2009, 07:36 PM
If that is even the *real* Clark.
Clark would never do this to her! And he was acting shady and un-Clark-like in that last scene.
haydenclaireheroes
05-14-2009, 07:52 PM
a person with no heart would not care about chloe and i am telling you i am a person with a heart.
Poyntz
05-14-2009, 07:56 PM
He acted like he blamed her for everything. Maybe its the stuff Rokk said to him. And that she used the Black Kryptonite like he would of wanted her to. And he was wrong. So he blames her and feels guilty too. at least that is how it looked. The last scene just was off. It wasnt the chloe/clark chemistry i have grown to love. breaks my heart really.
ANd i'm not a clois shipper but i'm trying to figure out what the spoiler met that said clois fans would be happy LOL. Maybe just the phone scene i guess.
Baron Karza
05-14-2009, 07:59 PM
Oooh, wait...
Black Kryptonite? How close does it actually have to be to have an effect?
*sniff sniff* Anybody else smell a copout?
alienkinfolk
05-14-2009, 08:00 PM
i liked Chloe this season, they finally gave her someone that loved her believably. Yeah Jimmy's affections never matched up to me. plus Davis had those dreamy evil eyes
Pink Hurricane
05-14-2009, 08:01 PM
I feel so incredibly bad for her. I mean she's been doing all this crap for her best friend... flirting with the line so that no one knows if she's doing right or wrong... only to end up completely alone. Lois, her cousin and best friend is missing. Clark said his goodbyes and left. The JL is gone for now. She got back together with the love of her life only for him to be killed by the person she was trying to save.... and he died in her arms. If that's not tragic/traumatic I don't know what is. It's such a sad story.
piment
05-14-2009, 08:01 PM
IS SHE PREGNANT???? Is that why she grabbed her tummy at the end? She realizes all she has is her fatherless/bestfriendless/auntless baby?
Bizarrolover
05-14-2009, 08:08 PM
I feel so incredibly bad for her. I mean she's been doing all this crap for her best friend... flirting with the line so that no one knows if she's doing right or wrong... only to end up completely alone. Lois, her cousin and best friend is missing. Clark said his goodbyes and left. The JL is gone for now. She got back together with the love of her life only for him to be killed by the person she was trying to save.... and he died in her arms. If that's not tragic/traumatic I don't know what is. It's such a sad story.
Well, she made some very bad choices. How did she think this was going to end? Ollie asked her that same thing in Beast and yet she went to the fortress and prevented Clark from sending Doomy to the PZ. And just because of that I make her responsible for Jimmy's death. If Doomsday stayed on Earth until the finale, it's because of her.
rehana/chole
05-14-2009, 08:08 PM
If that is even the *real* Clark.
Clark would never do this to her! And he was acting shady and un-Clark-like in that last scene.
THAT THE THING WE CANOT BE TOO SURE IF IT IS CLARK OR IT A DREAM OR if chole was imaging the whole thing cause the whole losen lois,jimmy an clark not been there may be she thinks he is dead an come nex season she is watch tower ( if u look at seen clark is not there with her at the funeral or after and she say so her slef i quoto corret me if i am wrong :where were u i need u an clark look away maybe he in some spirtual form next sason a part traing. anyway i glad allison is still on as chole but i now there proable saving killing chole of for sv ending make more sences, loking forward for season 9 cant wait WATCH TOWER is online ( mayb no they cna hook her up with olli or bruce (my bad) come on she deserve a good guy no offence too jimmy fan he was sweet n good except he kind died an chole gona need help.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 08:12 PM
i didnt see your thread but i started a similar one
i dont know Chloe has been spending the whole season pushing clark away to "Save Davis" when she does a 180 and says she doesnt love him and wants to go back to jimmy
then why did she spend the whole season pushing clark away for someone she didnt even love in the long wrong?
then she pulls out the "i need you" crap
where was chloe when clark needed her?
curare
05-14-2009, 08:14 PM
Well, she made some very bad choices. How did she think this was going to end? Ollie asked her that same thing in Beast and yet she went to the fortress and prevented Clark from sending Doomy to the PZ. And just because of that I make her responsible for Jimmy's death. If Doomsday stayed on Earth until the finale, it's because of her.
Perhaps, but Jimmy wouldn't have been around in the first place if Ollie hadn't pulled him into the circle...he'd have been somewhere getting high, feeling no pain;)
amandaa125
05-14-2009, 08:15 PM
You know these past few weeks/months i have felt so angry towards chloe for her actions with clark and davis and for the first time tonights episode made me feel sorry for her. And i actually got what she was going through. But then i remembered that if she would have just let clark throw davis into the PZ none of this would have happened in the first place. BOO chloe!
Bizarrolover
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Perhaps, but Jimmy wouldn't have been around in the first place if Ollie hadn't pulled him into the circle...he'd have been somewhere getting high, feeling no pain;)
Jimmy was pulled into that circle the day he proposed to Chloe and she accepted. He was attacked by Doomsday at his wedding. His addiction started because Davis/doomy sent him to a hospital and then injected him with hallucynogens to cover his crimes and because his wife turned her back on him. The one that shouldn't have been around was Davis, but he remained on this planet because Chloe stopped Clark from sending him to the PZ. The deaths that happened after Chloe closed the portal to the PZ is her responsibility and no one else's.
Lilah
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
The Chimmy reconcilation made me and Chloe reconcile.... I actually felt bad for her at the end of this.... but its like the finale doesn't make any sense to me right now... I'm going to have to watch it again...
latingirl
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
AND worse part is Davis left her a tiny souvenir..... call it BABY:o
WTF? Color me a different shade, but why didn't Chloe die?????? She is no longer needed and is...Gawd, just not needed. Other than the Jimmy dead Chloe alive retardness, I enjoyed the Smallville ending.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 08:32 PM
Jimmy was pulled into that circle the day he proposed to Chloe and she accepted. He was attacked by Doomsday at his wedding. His addiction started because Davis/doomy sent him to a hospital and then injected him with hallucynogens to cover his crimes and because his wife turned her back on him. The one that shouldn't have been around was Davis, but he remained on this planet because Chloe stopped Clark from sending him to the PZ. The deaths that happened after Chloe closed the portal to the PZ is her responsibility and no one else's.
amen
although clark should have put his foot down and told chloe to mind her own before he grinded her into a diamond
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
05-14-2009, 09:06 PM
Everyone has to basically kiss her butt, and she's suddenly a hero.
She really is the new Lana
Clana_4ever2005
05-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Scot-free?!
She lost her husband whom she just reconciled with, in front of her.
Watched Davis die, whom she tried to save.
Lost her best friend.
And her cousin is missing and she thinks she may be dead.
Nope, she had it easy.
malchloefan
05-14-2009, 09:09 PM
She really is the new Lana
Please don't say things you can't take back :)
jpfort1957
05-14-2009, 09:10 PM
Everyone has to basically kiss her butt, and she's suddenly a hero.
She really is the new Lana
I wouldn't wish that on any girl that has ever appeared on Smallville!!!!!!!!!!!!
thehenry89
05-14-2009, 09:10 PM
At this point I have nothing to say about her charachter that would be constructive or flattering so I will refrain from comment.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 09:11 PM
Scot-free?!
She lost her husband whom she just reconciled with, in front of her.
Watched Davis die, whom she tried to save.
Lost her best friend.
And her cousin is missing and she thinks she may be dead.
Nope, she had it easy.
which all could have been avoided if she would have stayed out of clark's business..
Forney2414
05-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Scot-free?!
She lost her husband whom she just reconciled with, in front of her.
Watched Davis die, whom she tried to save.
Lost her best friend.
And her cousin is missing and she thinks she may be dead.
Nope, she had it easy.
This.
colibri
05-14-2009, 09:13 PM
Yeah, she got treated like she was a hero when in reality she caused a lot of the problems to begin with. Just a few episodes Oliver told her the truth and now it's all for Clark. She committed several felonies and isn't in jail but walking around like nothing happened.
Lori Lemaris
05-14-2009, 09:13 PM
Chloe is definitely Lana 2.0, now I don't wish for Lois Lane to be the leading lady...it's more of a curse than honour.
gilliang
05-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Scot-free?!
She lost her husband whom she just reconciled with, in front of her.
Watched Davis die, whom she tried to save.
Lost her best friend.
And her cousin is missing and she thinks she may be dead.
Nope, she had it easy.
It's all of her own damn making. She made the bed, she should have to lie in it.
And like she gives a rat's ass about Lois. She didn't care one bit in that scene with Clark...it was all about her. 'Where were you when I NEEDED you the most?'. Please.
amandaa125
05-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Yeah i feel bad for chloe, but really...everything is a consequence of her actions. Chloe has always been one of my favorite characters. But after everything, i wish they just killed her off.
BadToad
05-14-2009, 09:19 PM
I understand that Chloe had a lot of tragedy in this finale, but I was disappointed that there was absolutely NO questioning of her actions at all. Like, none at all. And frankly, I just wasn't feeling her reunion with Jimmy (not to mention she sort of forgot about him quickly), so I'm also not really feeling her grief over his death. Davis and Clark? Yeah, that came across more realistically.
LorelaiG
05-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Everyone has to basically kiss her butt, and she's suddenly a hero.
She really is the new Lana
Is season 3 all over again
Dyanara
05-14-2009, 09:19 PM
I dont fault Chloe in the least, I appluad her for trying to do good unlike other characters who just want to kill kill kill every1 in sight. Plus why shouldnt Chloe get off scott free? No one has turned Oliver in for murder yet.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 09:20 PM
I dont fault Chloe in the least, I appluad her for trying to do good unlike other characters who just want to kill kill kill every1 in sight. Plus why shouldnt Chloe get off scott free? No one has turned Oliver in for murder yet.
i guess chloe and ollie should turn themselves in together then
Honey45
05-14-2009, 09:22 PM
This is basically why I stopped being a hardcore Smallville fan at the end of season 7. Everything is always about Chloe and how great and perfect she is. Don't get me wrong, she's not that bad. But the show and all the characters are waaaaay too focused on her. It's too much.
Dyanara
05-14-2009, 09:22 PM
But Chloe didnt commit a crime, Oliver did.
And please dont try the haboring a serial killer angle, keeping the cops away from Doomsday was a good thing seeing as how he would have taken them all out.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
05-14-2009, 09:24 PM
I completely agree with this:
I understand that Chloe had a lot of tragedy in this finale, but I was disappointed that there was absolutely NO questioning of her actions at all. Like, none at all. And frankly, I just wasn't feeling her reunion with Jimmy (not to mention she sort of forgot about him quickly), so I'm also not really feeling her grief over his death. Davis and Clark? Yeah, that came across more realistically.
and this:
It's all of her own damn making. She made the bed, she should have to lie in it.
And like she gives a rat's ass about Lois. She didn't care one bit in that scene with Clark...it was all about her. 'Where were you when I NEEDED you the most?'. Please.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 09:26 PM
But Chloe didnt commit a crime, Oliver did.
i think chloe's been harboring a murder
she even helped throw away his mess
if im not mistaken thats a crime
Bizarrolover
05-14-2009, 09:27 PM
Interesting paralell. Jimmy got mad at her because he saw her embracing Davis right in front of him while he was still at the hostpital. Davis gets mad at her because he sees her kissing jimmy right in front of him while he's lying on bed. Seriously, Chloe should be more careful and hug and kiss her lovers in more secluded places.
thehenry89
05-14-2009, 09:33 PM
i think chloe's been harboring a murder
she even helped throw away his mess
if im not mistaken thats a crime
I think you're correct Josh, unless aiding and abedding a wanted fugative, and accesory to murder after the fact are no longer crimes, not to mention desecrating human remains.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 09:36 PM
I think you're correct Josh, unless aiding and abedding a wanted fugative, and accesory to murder after the fact are no longer crimes, not to mention desecrating human remains.
clark threw the big lex cow pie at Oliver
but no one said anything to Chloe about her actions
Smalvil1
05-14-2009, 09:40 PM
But Chloe didnt commit a crime, Oliver did.
And please dont try the haboring a serial killer angle, keeping the cops away from Doomsday was a good thing seeing as how he would have taken them all out.
Well technically harboring a fugitive is a crime. So is murder (sebastian), accessory to murder (AJ), hacking into classified files (sleeper).
Chloe is harldy a saint. Every misfortune she brings upon herself and then is treated like a victim.
Dyanara
05-14-2009, 09:44 PM
I never said Chloe was a saint, what I said was that keeping Davis away from the police wasnt a crime. But if you want her to go to jail for Sebastian then go for it, just as long as Oliver goes with her for the murder of Lex.
Alicia Chipy
05-14-2009, 09:45 PM
Some characters can get away with murder others get the book thrown at them for jaywalking.
Smalvil1
05-14-2009, 09:49 PM
I never said Chloe was a saint, what I said was that keeping Davis away from the police wasnt a crime. But if you want her to go to jail for Sebastian then go for it, just as long as Oliver goes with her for the murder of Lex.
Oliver should go to jail. Throw em both in there. Neither murders were justified.
Sports72Xtrm
05-14-2009, 09:49 PM
Chloe killed Sebastian but everyone looks over it because Oliver did it too. It was to save Clark, and it could have had Braniac influence. Then she goes around with Davis saying it was to protect Clark. Clark can be safe when he could have sent Davis to the Phantom Zone but then she changes her motivation to being all high and mighty. Clark plays along and Chloe protects Davis. Jimmy puts his trust in Chloe and Clark, thinking Davis was not a monster as well like they say, shows her everything he wanted to give to Chloe, and the guy that's she's been protecting all the time for the second half of season 8 kills him. So Jimmy, the guy who wants to give Chloe everything, dies at the hand that takes everything from Chloe. And this is the guy she wanted to protect. And then Chloe says "I did what you wanted Clark, I separated Davis and Doomsday". Ugh. I hate her.:mad:
rarebreed
05-14-2009, 09:51 PM
Interesting paralell. Jimmy got mad at her because he saw her embracing Davis right in front of him while he was still at the hostpital. Davis gets mad at her because he sees her kissing jimmy right in front of him while he's lying on bed. Seriously, Chloe should be more careful and hug and kiss her lovers in more secluded places.
I was thinking the same thing! When it was all going on I was like, "Chances are he's hearing the whole thing... this won't end well."
Some characters can get away with murder others get the book thrown at them for jaywalking.
:rotfl:
... is it bad that I'm laughing at this? :\ It's so sad but true.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 09:51 PM
I never said Chloe was a saint, what I said was that keeping Davis away from the police wasnt a crime. But if you want her to go to jail for Sebastian then go for it, just as long as Oliver goes with her for the murder of Lex.
i know a big argument after eternal was that chloe was in the wrong by not taking davis to the police which i thought was ludicrous because honestly how were the police going to help?
but chloe does not get my sympathy
if she would have just stayed out of clark's business none of this would have happened
i dont excuse Oliver for killing lex but hes been lectured already by Clark
but the show wants us to feel sorry for Chloe?
i dont think so
Davis killed while he was with Chloe (AJ in stiletto and neutron in injustice and no telling who else)
and now Jimmy
she has blood on her hands that could have been avoided
vagrant
05-14-2009, 09:53 PM
I mean I get that she kind of brought some of this on herself, but the blame is really Clarks for how he dealt with everything.
And geez, Chloe just lost the love of her life, her Cousin, and her best friend.
Rival X The Great
05-14-2009, 09:55 PM
i feel nothing for Chloe. It should had been her to die not Jimmy. I'm sorry its just how I feel.
Dyanara
05-14-2009, 09:55 PM
Well I dont feel sympathy for Chloe in this episode, yeah it is sad that Jimmy died but I feel more sorry for him than for her. The only character I really liked in this episode was Jimmy, he was the real hero a hero that neither Clark, Oliver or Chloe could have ever been.
I do not see Clark as looking over Chloe killing Sebastian because i dont think he knows about it. But Oliver does and the only reason I can think that he is keeping it secret is because she knew about Lex. Then again with this writing they very well could make oliver forget about Sebastian.
Bizarrolover
05-14-2009, 09:57 PM
I mean I get that she kind of brought some of this on herself, but the blame is really Clarks for how he dealt with everything.
And geez, Chloe just lost the love of her life, her Cousin, and her best friend.
Clark wanted to send Davis to the Phantom Zone. For once he was doing the right thing and Chloe stopped him.
Michael Scarn
05-14-2009, 09:57 PM
i know a big argument after eternal was that chloe was in the wrong by not taking davis to the police which i thought was ludicrous because honestly how were the police going to help?
but chloe does not get my sympathy
if she would have just stayed out of clark's business none of this would have happened
i dont excuse Oliver for killing lex but hes been lectured already by Clark
but the show wants us to feel sorry for Chloe?
i dont think so
Davis killed while he was with Chloe (AJ in stiletto and neutron in injustice and no telling who else)
and now Jimmy
she has blood on her hands that could have been avoided
Took the words right of my mouth, I also would like to know as to why Clark needed Chloe to use the black kryptonite, davis himself said while he was tied up it was the right thing, clark was going to do this himself. This finale made no sense what so ever but I was shocked at the Jimmy death, I just hope next season Clark keeps his business to himself and Chloe does not get involved.
prodigykane
05-14-2009, 10:09 PM
But Chloe didnt commit a crime, Oliver did.
And please dont try the haboring a serial killer angle, keeping the cops away from Doomsday was a good thing seeing as how he would have taken them all out.
She killed a man also...some blame it all on Brainiac but we know otherwise
thehenry89
05-14-2009, 10:12 PM
Took the words right of my mouth, I also would like to know as to why Clark needed Chloe to use the black kryptonite, davis himself said while he was tied up it was the right thing, clark was going to do this himself. This finale made no sense what so ever but I was shocked at the Jimmy death, I just hope next season Clark keeps his business to himself and Chloe does not get involved.
Dont worry next year zod in davis' body will fall head over heels in love with Chloe the same way he did with lana in season 6...haven't we seen this before :rolleyes:
susangail
05-14-2009, 10:21 PM
Yeah, to be honest, I'm not feeling bad for Chloe. TPTB had her and Jimmy talk about how much she'd sacrificed, but she's also made more than her fair share of bad decisions.
SGuthrie27
05-14-2009, 10:23 PM
I, at least, agree with you, vagrant. I DO feel sorry for Chloe, losing everyone she's ever loved and ever loved her all at once, after having one of the worst years of her life. And everyone on this show has made plenty of bad decisions, not just Chloe. They have an equal right to be felt sorry for by fans, especially when they go through as many tragedies and hardships as Chloe has.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
thehenry89
05-14-2009, 10:24 PM
I would rather davis and chloe died than jimmy to be perfectly honest. I have no sympathy for chloe what so ever.
Jawth
05-14-2009, 10:25 PM
Well, the only one I feel sorry for is Jimmy, considering he's the one that was murdered.
All of this bloodshed never would have happened if Chloe A). hadn't made him immune to Kryptonite, or B) stopped Clark from ending the conflict with no bloodshed.
As much as I hate to say it, Chloe is the new Lana. It's like the whole season the producers have been trying to get me to hate the character, and congradulations! They succeeded.
malchloefan
05-14-2009, 10:27 PM
Clark abandoned her at the moment she needed him, despite the sacrifices she has made for him. Those who argue, she wasn't making a sacrifice because she had feelings for Davis must now recognise that she was always acting in Clark's best interests, the producers have said this previously. Clark, takes Chloe for granted and continues to do so. I can't believe he was so wrapped up in himself he wouldn't console her. It is so unforgivable and I am amazed that he could be so thoughtless. I know he is feeling guilty for the death of the Jimmy-Olsen prototype but honestly I think it is a very poor excuse.
Kryppy
05-14-2009, 10:30 PM
Feel bad for Chloe? I just feel bad for myself that I'm addicted to such a stupid show.
Jawth
05-14-2009, 10:31 PM
Clark abandoned her at the moment she needed him, despite the sacrifices she has made for him. Those who argue, she wasn't making a sacrifice because she had feelings for Davis must now recognise that she was always acting in Clark's best interests, the producers have said this previously. Clark, takes Chloe for granted and continues to do so. I can't believe he was so wrapped up in himself he wouldn't console her. It is so unforgivable and I am amazed that he could be so thoughtless. I know he is feeling guilty for the death of the Jimmy-Olsen prototype but honestly I think it is a very poor excuse.
It was HER choices that led to the climax of the episode, not Clark's. If she would have gotten out of his way and let him do his job, Jimmy would be fine.
borednow
05-14-2009, 10:33 PM
I just feel bad for myself that I'm addicted to such a stupid show.
Me too...
I do feel a little bad for Chloe losing Jimmy... but it's tempered with "If she hadn't ...."s which really hurts, the last Chimmy scene was so beautiful to me. I hate this show...
smallville_is_awesome
05-14-2009, 10:40 PM
Yes I agree! I felt really bad for Chloe!
4Clana
05-14-2009, 10:42 PM
Well I dont feel sympathy for Chloe in this episode, yeah it is sad that Jimmy died but I feel more sorry for him than for her. The only character I really liked in this episode was Jimmy, he was the real hero a hero that neither Clark, Oliver or Chloe could have ever been.
QFT. Jimmy <3
malchloefan
05-14-2009, 10:42 PM
Jawth, sending Doomsday to the phantom zone was not an airtight solution. Tess mentioned earlier (although I question her motives but not her logic) that he could escape.
The option of splitting Davis from Doomsday was the most moral option because it leaves the door open for redemption. I would expect nothing less from Clark. Yes, Davis killed Jimmy but trusting human nature is not a crime, we could all stand to do it more.
Clark chose to agree with Chloe that it was not the best option and began to search for a better way and so we arrived at the black kryptonite solution. Clark consented, he didn't do anything against his will. I think Jimmy's death, tragic though it may be is neither Clark's fault (even thoug he could have sent Doomsday to the future and fought him there) nor is Chloe to blame.
mr lane
05-14-2009, 10:44 PM
Clark abandoned her at the moment she needed him, despite the sacrifices she has made for him. Those who argue, she wasn't making a sacrifice because she had feelings for Davis must now recognise that she was always acting in Clark's best interests, the producers have said this previously. Clark, takes Chloe for granted and continues to do so. I can't believe he was so wrapped up in himself he wouldn't console her. It is so unforgivable and I am amazed that he could be so thoughtless. I know he is feeling guilty for the death of the Jimmy-Olsen prototype but honestly I think it is a very poor excuse.
It was HER choices that led to the climax of the episode, not Clark's. If she would have gotten out of his way and let him do his job, Jimmy would be fine.
Agreed and the last time Clark try to console Chloe she pushed him away and for what? just so she could do a complete 180 and say she doesnt love Davis? so this whole time she was harboring a killer just because?
just because she felt he deserved to be "saved?"
what about sebastian and lex? she was all up for killing them
i thought the chimmy was great but it just made everything she did for davis seem pointless and all the lives lost along the way were for nothing
"clark i need you"
where was chloe when clark needed her? she was listening to doomsday tell her mythology stories under the stars while clark was worrying his ass off if she was ok or not
jpfort1957
05-14-2009, 10:45 PM
3 Guys. She screwed all 3 of them...........to save one.(She said) Now 2 are dead, and the one she claimed to be saving has had his mind compltelely blown.
And you ask "How are people not feeling sorry for Chloe?" They may come around, but it will take awhile.......a long while.
Krypto~Luan
05-14-2009, 10:46 PM
She has NO ONE now. Jimmy is dead, Lois is missing, Oliver left, davis is dead, clark left. She has No one but Shellby....
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
05-14-2009, 10:47 PM
I can't feel bad for someone who continues to get away with stuff and gets branded a hero, and has everyone kissing her butt in the end.
DigitalKing
05-14-2009, 10:48 PM
Jawth, sending Doomsday to the phantom zone was not an airtight solution. Tess mentioned earlier (although I question her motives but not her logic) that he could escape.
The option of splitting Davis from Doomsday was the most moral option because it leaves the door open for redemption. I would expect nothing less from Clark. Yes, Davis killed Jimmy but trusting human nature is not a crime, we could all stand to do it more.
Clark chose to agree with Chloe that it was not the best option and began to search for a better way and so we arrived at the black kryptonite solution. Clark consented, he didn't do anything against his will. I think Jimmy's death, tragic though it may be is neither Clark's fault (even thoug he could have sent Doomsday to the future and fought him there) nor is Chloe to blame.This.
So much this.
I don't care though, the show's not worth watching anymore. Will the kid become Jimmy? Will Clark regain his faith in humanity in time to die at Doomsday's hands? Who cares? Of course that's what will happen, everything from here on out is a foregone conclusion.
nyctnafan100
05-14-2009, 10:48 PM
i have no hate for chloe. i love her character all these people on the show have made bad decisions. people grieve in different ways. clark maybe feeling a ton of fault for the way he handled the situation and maybe thats why he doesnt console chloe. either way ill miss jimmy but i think people need to give it a rest. how many are mad at the producers for killing off jimmy cause of the superman story hes a good part of it or mad cause they like the jimmy character on smallville. either way im happy chloe alive.
jmf1977
05-14-2009, 10:54 PM
I don't feel sorry for Chloe at all. This is not a bash post against her character, but I feel that TPTB ARE turning her into the new Lana. She chose to not trust her husband Jimmy, she basically turned her back on him in favor of Davis; she interferred with Clark and Doomsday - showing up at the FOS and stopping Clark from sending Davis to the PZ was wrong and stupid. And let's not forget that she chose to run away with Davis, the Beast.
I just don't like how they have turned her into a martyr...she is not. She, just like Lana, chose her own path and now she must face the consequences. I don't like the fact that she is the one who sacrificed her entire life and happiness for Clark...how lame. When Lana did that, people mocked her endlessly. I just don't feel sorry for her at all. Jimmy was murdered in front of her by Davis, the human she split from the beast and she basically showed no remorse.
BTW, I also find it humorous that Jimmy's little brother will probably be the replacement Olsen working with Lois and Clark. I already predict that the later portion of the season will be a forward jump, once the Zod storyline is resolved. I can only hope that the show gets new writers and producers!
Lilah
05-14-2009, 11:19 PM
AND worse part is Davis left her a tiny souvenir..... call it BABY:o
If that happens then I'll be done with Smallville forever.... I am not into Rosemary's Baby....
Jawth
05-14-2009, 11:48 PM
Jawth, sending Doomsday to the phantom zone was not an airtight solution. Tess mentioned earlier (although I question her motives but not her logic) that he could escape.
The option of splitting Davis from Doomsday was the most moral option because it leaves the door open for redemption. I would expect nothing less from Clark. Yes, Davis killed Jimmy but trusting human nature is not a crime, we could all stand to do it more.
Clark chose to agree with Chloe that it was not the best option and began to search for a better way and so we arrived at the black kryptonite solution. Clark consented, he didn't do anything against his will. I think Jimmy's death, tragic though it may be is neither Clark's fault (even thoug he could have sent Doomsday to the future and fought him there) nor is Chloe to blame.
Considering someone from the future TOLD Clark it's Chloe's fault, I'm inclined to believe him.
Tess is an idiot. The Phantom Zone is an alternate dimension, and considering there aren't any more members of the House of El in there, there is no chance for escape.
Davis as Davis killed multiple times. Anyone who was shocked he turned out to be a murderer should really have themselves tested.
chlavisbug
05-14-2009, 11:58 PM
i didnt like what she did to davis. period
chlarker4eva08
05-14-2009, 11:59 PM
i feel bad for chloe, BUT im used to her getting the short end of the stick.thats y it doesnt really phase me
AndiGirl
05-14-2009, 11:59 PM
I do feel bad for her, but then a lot of what happend was her own doing.
So I have mixed feelings where Chloe's concerned. :\
Lilah
05-15-2009, 12:03 AM
i feel bad for chloe, BUT im used to her getting the short end of the stick.thats y it doesnt really phase me
If you call getting all the attention this season the short end of the stick, then sure... I guess your right.... :confused:
lm1212
05-15-2009, 12:04 AM
Because Chloe is not real.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:05 AM
Because they're too busy being unreasonable and forgetting this was a season finale not a series finale.
Clana4Life
05-15-2009, 12:09 AM
Can't feel sorry for Chloe. Her definition of saving someone needs to be revamped. Lying to someone is not saving them. Telling him that you'd do anything for them, while also running off with them and talking to himm about building a life together - just to shatter it with some "saving you" instead of loving you - "oh, but for what it's worthy I THOUGHT I loved you." Can't feel sorry for someone who is obviously very confused.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:10 AM
YOu need to lie sometimes for the greater good.
angelofthewaters
05-15-2009, 12:11 AM
Everyone has to basically kiss her butt, and she's suddenly a hero.
She really is the new Lana
I really don't think that Chloe is the new LANA....
LANA is way much ANNOYING than her!
Just telling the truth.... ;)
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:12 AM
She suffered so much. How is she not getting hurt?
Mrs. Superman
05-15-2009, 12:13 AM
The Chimmy reconcilation made me and Chloe reconcile.... I actually felt bad for her at the end of this.... but its like the finale doesn't make any sense to me right now... I'm going to have to watch it again...
You are one brave soul. I dont think I'll be able to stomach that episode ever again. I dont even want to see flashbacks from this episode when they do the "previously on smallville" ... This must be the shock/disbelief stage of grief I'm currently in. :(
AndiGirl
05-15-2009, 12:14 AM
She suffered so much. How is she not getting hurt?
ITA
She basically has nobody at this point. And even though she's partially to blame for her misfortune, it's not fair to say she's getting off "scot-free"
Far from it actually. :\
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:14 AM
Im still kinda glad he's gone. But i have to wait till next season to see if i agree with it.
Oh how long i wanted him dead.
Mrs. Superman
05-15-2009, 12:15 AM
I feel bad for Chloe, but I feel worse for Jimmy. In fact thats all I feel right now, really bad for Jimmy.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:17 AM
ITA
She basically has nobody at this point. And even though she's partially to blame for her misfortune, it's not fair to say she's getting off "scot-free"
Far from it actually. :\
Her lover is dead.
He best friend has lost reason
Her cousin is missing.
people dont realise the symbolism of the last scene. She was alone in the room. THe room was empty.
She's alone. And its not her fault, She's caught in the middle of it.
chlavisbug
05-15-2009, 12:17 AM
i am a huge fan of chloe, i love her-
but this season finale was bad for her, i didn't like her and her changing decisions- i thought she was a strong girls with proper priorities but she is CoNfUsEd!!
amalie
05-15-2009, 12:20 AM
I understand that Chloe had a lot of tragedy in this finale, but I was disappointed that there was absolutely NO questioning of her actions at all. Like, none at all. And frankly, I just wasn't feeling her reunion with Jimmy (not to mention she sort of forgot about him quickly), so I'm also not really feeling her grief over his death. Davis and Clark? Yeah, that came across more realistically.
I agree. They basically decided to have all of the characters hero worship her, not one person questioned her actions :mad: I don't know why I'm surprised after the rest of the tripe they delivered in the finale.
gemini
05-15-2009, 12:20 AM
I can't feel bad for someone who continues to get away with stuff and gets branded a hero, and has everyone kissing her butt in the end.
Your are talking about Lois unethical journalism on stilleto!
davidbrenton
05-15-2009, 12:21 AM
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Clana4Life
05-15-2009, 12:22 AM
YOu need to lie sometimes for the greater good.
I don't think so. Superman doesn't do this. Truth is what helps the great good, not lies.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:23 AM
And when it starts for me i will think, yay jimmys gone! I dont hate him, he just annoyed me.
Kryptochloe
05-15-2009, 12:26 AM
I agree. They basically decided to have all of the characters hero worship her, not one person questioned her actions :mad: I don't know why I'm surprised after the rest of the tripe they delivered in the finale.
Well... actually, Oliver did questioned her....
(Just saying...)
Lilah
05-15-2009, 12:28 AM
You are one brave soul. I dont think I'll be able to stomach that episode ever again. I dont even want to see flashbacks from this episode when they do the "previously on smallville" ... This must be the shock/disbelief stage of grief I'm currently in. :(
Hey I watched Eternal, Turbulence and Beast twice and Injustice three times.. I think I can stomach the finale again. Besides my bestfriend and her boyfriend kept talking. He was quoting "Kneel before Zod" like Terrence Stamp the whole time... If I never hear that again, I'll die happy lol.
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Your are talking about Lois unethical journalism on stilleto!
Lois lied for a story, she admitted it. Moving on. Chloe has been lying to everyone she supposedly cares about ever since Turbulence. And now Jimmy's dead because of her dumb decisions. So if you'll excuse me I must keep practicing on my Chloe Sullivan dart board.
Scribe
05-15-2009, 12:28 AM
Everything that happened could have been avoided if Chloe had
a) Confided in Clark about Davis.
b) Remembered that she was Jimmy's wife not super woman who can tame Davis
c) Chloe proved to Clark why he shouldn't let emotions dictate his actions. Empathy for her and Davis got Jimmy killed.
smallvillereporter27
05-15-2009, 12:29 AM
Ugh. Chloe...if she had just said "I screwed up!" in this episode I would have been fine. But, her life does suck right now and I do honestly believe that she feels guilty...if only she had SAID it!!
But, there's always season 9. I feel that as long as they don't throw Chloe into more of this drama, she'll be fine.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:30 AM
I don't think so. Superman doesn't do this. Truth is what helps the great good, not lies.
I was speaking in realities terms. Sometimes lies are necesary. And superman (clark) lies...alot to lana, lex, chloe, lois, and even jimmy
When he said "im human, im average im normal"
I say superman needs to learn to lie. Lies hurt, but sometimes its necesarry.
amalie
05-15-2009, 12:33 AM
ITA
She basically has nobody at this point. And even though she's partially to blame for her misfortune, it's not fair to say she's getting off "scot-free"
Far from it actually. :\
I think Jimmy ended up paying the bigger price and he did nothing wrong. My personal problem is that there wasn't even one character that called her on her actions, not one in the finale.
Kschreck
05-15-2009, 12:34 AM
I think Jimmy ended up paying the bigger price and he did nothing wrong. My personal problem is that there wasn't even one character that called her on her actions, not one in the finale.
At this point I am blaming both her and Clark for not taking action until the last minute. The Justice League had it right this time around.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 12:35 AM
I think Jimmy ended up paying the bigger price and he did nothing wrong. My personal problem is that there wasn't even one character that called her on her actions, not one in the finale.
Jimmy is dead, he's got nothing to worry about.:rotfl:
Sports72Xtrm
05-15-2009, 12:35 AM
Wasn't Ollie suppose to give her a "This is your fault Chloe" look at the funeral? I hope there will be tension next season.
chloe was left with ****....she lost practically everything
not only did she lose the most important ppl in the world to her. 1 by death, the other by dissapearance, and the third by being a mo and ditching her when she needs him the most..wen everybody has left her he leaves her in the dust i dnt know how she will be able to forgive him for tat..tat would of broke my heart so bad.....but
she wasted so much time, she lost her marriage, her friendship with clark go rocky, and sacrificed herself to just save that piece of crap davis from himself in order to save clark..and for what for NOTHING!..the moment tat idiot had the chance to be normal and human he fudged it all up the second he woke up and became wat he was trying to escape from...all becuz boo hoo chloe didnt freaking fall in luv with him....ALL THAT HASSLE WAS ALL FOR NOTHING...
p.s. srry as u cn c by my rambeling i have sum anger..lol
amalie
05-15-2009, 12:42 AM
Well... actually, Oliver did questioned her....
(Just saying...)
Yet in the finale it was all forgiven, they completely forgot that bit. We had characters calling her the hero.
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Jimmy is dead, he's got nothing to worry about.:rotfl:
He did nothing wrong, he payed for Chloe's mistakes with his life. She got off pretty much scot free in my eyes compared to him.
Lilah
05-15-2009, 12:43 AM
Superman was potrayed as the ultimate all around good guy when he spent his whole life lying to the people closest to him. That is why in the mythos he tells Lois his secret.
So lying is not strange to Superman.
borednow
05-15-2009, 12:49 AM
She has NO ONE now. Jimmy is dead, Lois is missing, Oliver left, davis is dead, clark left. She has No one but Shellby....
Add in a concussion, and a broken leg that wont heal right and she will have gotten close to what she deserves...
VagrantDream
05-15-2009, 12:50 AM
Chloe lost everything. yeah. I love(d) her as a character.
but after that chimmy retcon, reationship-with-davis assassination and her seriously twisted views on saving Davis, she's not my Chloe. at all.
I feel nothing. I wish her joy of whatever she gets on Sv cause I no longer love show!Chloe and won't be watching.
Krypto~Luan
05-15-2009, 01:01 AM
Add in a concussion, and a broken leg that wont heal right and she will have gotten close to what she deserves...
I got what i wanted, a dead jimmy.
michaelkent
05-15-2009, 02:15 AM
Chloe has definitely gone through the ringer this season and has made some mistakes along the way, but is hardly worthy of the nonsensical drivel that some teenagers have posted on this board. Number one, it was Brainiac who controlled Chloe and caused her to kill the guy in the hospital. The only way to come to the conclusion that Chloe did the deed herself is to assume she did because of negative feelings about the character.
Stupid Clark deliberately stole her memory because he thought it was the best solution. He never bothered to consult his friend about his brainless choice and then never admitted his selfish deed to her when Chloe recovered her memory.
Jimmy the Geek was the whiner and jerk who ended the marriage by his endless, childish jealousy over any expression of feelings for another man. Instead of being willing to talk with Chloe and resolve their problems, he screams and swears at her through his emails. I have been married for 29 years and any guy who treats his wife in that mannner is too immature to be married. I pity any woman who marries a little boy like that who demands every moment of his wife's attention and wants his wife to be his mother.
Yes, Chloe made some mistakes in regards to Davis but the following is undeniably true:
1. She did not cause Davis to turn into Doomsday and kill the thug who attacked her in the Talon.
2. She already tried to kill Davis/Doomsday with kryptonite when Davis was about to transform into his monstrous form in the presence of Clark. She wasn't happy about doing it but once again her concern for Clark was her motivation.
3. When Davis resurrected and came to her in the basement of the Talon, he stated that he was now immortal and therefore invincible (Rokk confirmed this to Clark in the season finale). Her desire to protect Clark from a foe that could very well kill him was once again her motivation. Her failing to warn Clark was not the best of judgement, but hardly a betrayal as some nonsensical posts have claimed. She knew that her friend would undoubtedly rush to rescue her from Davis/Doomsday if he learned the truth. This could lead to Clark's death, which Chloe would do anything to avoid. It has zip to do with Chloe not trusting her friend, but everything to do with her desire to keep Clark safe.
4. Chloe understood (better than Ollie or anyone else) that exiling Davis to the Phantom Zone for a lifetime of death and destruction would haunt Clark for years. So once again, she took the risk and responsibilty on herself to protect Clark and the rest of the human race by planning to stay with him until a better solution could be found (if one could ever be found). Hardly, the behavior of someone who is selfish and desiring to betray her friends.
5. After the funeral in the season finale, Chloe's discussion with Clark was hardly a selfish cry for attention when she asked, "Why didn't you come to me?" I find that insinuation and intrepretation to be ridiculous and senseless. Chloe had just lost Jimmy (geeky loser that he was), Lois is gone (hurray!), and other people who were close to her. She didn't understand why her best friend (who was at the funeral) failed to stand with her in this tragic moment. Even Dr. Death, Green Arrowhead, showed up to shed a tear in the company of the other mourners.
6. Clark, her best friend for years, chose to enter into another one of his personal pity parties. I personally find Smallville's Clark Kent to be the biggest whiner and histrionic incarantion of the DC superhero ever. Through out his teenage years, the crybaby would constantly go to his loft to pout and moan. I submit he is doing the same thing now by jabbering ridiculous statements that "Clark Kent is dead/gone". He now believes his human side as the problem after years of fearing his Kryptonian heritage. He sites Davis psychopathic behavior as a sign of the ills of humanity. Okay, fine, but why does he not considered the heroic actions of Jimmy the Dweeb in protecting Chloe with his own life. If anyone is wrapped up in his own self, it is Clark and not Chloe.
7. Lastly, Chloe has not asked anyone to "kiss her butt". That kind of remark is the height of childishness and ignorance (once again probably from a teenager who knows little about life). She has made mistakes and has paid a price for them. Whether it is a high enough price is certainly open to discussion and disagreement. But IMHO she remains the unsung hero of Smallville and I enthusiastically welcome her return for season 9.
ginnyfan
05-15-2009, 02:18 AM
I don't know. If she'd let Clark put Davis in the phantom zone she'd have 2 out of the 3 men she cared about. I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for her right now.
Vindellavon
05-15-2009, 03:05 PM
Chloe isn't the new Lana Lang, she's the new Bruce Wayne. Fallen, broken, left with everything but no one to share it with. All she needs it leather, a whip, and some kick arse shoes. :rolleyes:
But in all seriousness, how the heck did she get off scot-free? The man she was attempting to reconcile with is dead, the man she tried to save is dead, the man she tried to protect is gone, her only family disappeared, her team disappeared, basically, the only person not getting off free, is Chloe. Clark screwed up, he's most likely leaving for FOS for training, the JLA are going their seperate ways to protect and serve on their own, Tess has Zod, and Lois gets a first hand look at time travel. Basically, everyone has somewhere to go, but Chloe. JLA exists no more on SV, so why need a Watchtower when there's no one to watch over. Chloe got screwed over, in the end, I'm actually thinking death would've suited her better than this. Bitter punishment for protecting Clark? Payback for killing Sebastian? A slap across the face for attemtping to save Davis? I don't know, but what I can say is, this isn't Lana Lang 2.0. Lana Lang always had a rebound for everything, hell, she even puffed Lex up. Point is, Chloe has nothing to turn back to this time, because there's nothing left for her to fall back on.
Chloe was not screwed up, she got screwed over.
SnowBird
05-15-2009, 03:11 PM
Smallville hasn't come to an end yet. Chloe might still suffer more consequences from her illegal actions or John Jones might keep her out of jail as he did others. We'll have to see next season.
Jigga
05-15-2009, 03:13 PM
Even though she lost everything, it was her fault. She's the one that wanted to stay with Davis. She's the one that decided to not believe Jimmy when Jimmy was right, and then she decided to leave. Clark has the most brilliant idea I've ever seen him come up with and she shoots it down. I can't believe her uselessness here and her basic guilt trip of Clark at the end. She was wrong on all accounts. Her character as a moral compass is basically shot to utter oblivion here.
There's zero excuses for her to harbor and even clean up after a serial killer.
The only way to fix this is to have Clark show up at the beginning of next season having done some soul searching and realizing that Chloe was the one completely at fault. He didn't lose faith in humans, but trust in a friend. This sets up a redemption arc for Chloe to die at the end of S9 and Clark confiding in Lois over Chloe.
Clois4eva89
05-15-2009, 03:23 PM
I don't know why anyone would have issues with Chloe she's no lana. Lana murdered Jason's mother but was she ever arrested nope. Oliver killed Lex and he's still walking free Chloe ran off with Davis to protect Clark. Chloe's lost fake jimmy,possibly her best friend Clark,and she fears Lois may be dead. Cut Chloe some slack people she's not in the same league as how lana's been written.
mr lane
05-15-2009, 03:33 PM
I don't know why anyone would have issues with Chloe she's no lana. Lana murdered Jason's mother but was she ever arrested nope. Oliver killed Lex and he's still walking free Chloe ran off with Davis to protect Clark. Chloe's lost fake jimmy,possibly her best friend Clark,and she fears Lois may be dead. Cut Chloe some slack people she's not in the same league as how lana's been written.
i think it just bothers me that no one calls her out out on anything
as ive stated before a lot of this could have been avoided if she made better decisions
clark already lectured oliver in the past 3 episodes or whatever but chloe gets a big hero speech from jimmy before he gets impaled by the killer shes been toating around
I for one, am glad she is alive, and remain optimistic, that her character will find its way in season 9! And really it is always easier cast stones out of glass houses than to try to be understanding, so give a girl a break!
Yes she has made mistakes, but considering she lost her ex-husband/newly reconciled lover, Davis whom she really wanted to help out of the best intentions of her heart, her bestfriend, who is practicaly her family, her cousin, who is her family, and is now left alone in the world, and judging from the protecting mothery handgesture, pregnant to boot, I would say she has suffered great consequences, and will probably suffer in the season 9 as well! So what more do you people want?
mr lane
05-15-2009, 03:43 PM
I for one, am glad she is alive, and remain optimistic, that her character will find its way in season 9! And really it is always easier cast stones out of glass houses than to try to be understanding, so give a girl a break!
Yes she has made mistakes, but considering she lost her ex-husband/newly reconciled lover, Davis whom she really wanted to help out of the best intentions of her heart, her bestfriend, who is practicaly her family, her cousin, who is her family, and is now left alone in the world, and judging from the protecting mothery handgesture, pregnant to boot, I would say she has suffered great consequences, and will probably suffer in the season 9 as well! So what more do you people want?
for her to admitt she was wrong instead of
"i've lost so much and ive lost so many"
Clois4eva89
05-15-2009, 03:51 PM
i think it just bothers me that no one calls her out out on anything
as ive stated before a lot of this could have been avoided if she made better decisions
clark already lectured oliver in the past 3 episodes or whatever but chloe gets a big hero speech from jimmy before he gets impaled by the killer shes been toating around
the difference between Chloe and Lana is Lana's only though about herself.Chloe's given up so much for Clark thats why Jimmy named her a hero. She was willing to give up her relationship to Jimmy in order to protect Clark's secret. Chloe ran off with Davis because she believed if she stayed with Davis,he wouldn't transform. So staying away from Clark with Davis would keep Clark alive it was a bad call to make. But she believed it was the right thing to do because she thought it was the beast not Davis doing the killing.
Last time I checked Chloe didn't kill anyone Clark lectured Oliver because he killed Lex.Lana has made so many bad choices the last 8 years while Chloe's made very few.Yet now all of a sudden for this season alone Chloe's getting a bad rep for what's happened.
Vindellavon
05-15-2009, 04:00 PM
There's zero excuses for her to harbor and even clean up after a serial killer.
There are zero excuses for a lot of things. If Chloe Sullivan is Lana Lang 2.0, then Oliver Queen is Lex Luthor 2.0.
for her to admitt she was wrong instead of
"i've lost so much and ive lost so many"
Her admitting it would've fared well.
the difference between Chloe and Lana is Lana's only though about herself.Chloe's given up so much for Clark thats why Jimmy named her a hero. She was willing to give up her relationship to Jimmy in order to protect Clark's secret. Chloe ran off with Davis because she believed if she stayed with Davis,he wouldn't transform. So staying away from Clark with Davis would keep Clark alive it was a bad call to make. But she believed it was the right thing to do because she thought it was the beast not Davis doing the killing.
Last time I checked Chloe didn't kill anyone Clark lectured Oliver because he killed Lex.Lana has made so many bad choices the last 8 years while Chloe's made very few.Yet now all of a sudden for this season alone Chloe's getting a bad rep for what's happened.
Agreed. The only reason she's being dubbed Lana Lang, is because there is no more Lana Lang. She's gone, so who better to pick on, than Chloe.:rolleyes:
mr lane
05-15-2009, 04:03 PM
the difference between Chloe and Lana is Lana's only though about herself.Chloe's given up so much for Clark thats why Jimmy named her a hero. She was willing to give up her relationship to Jimmy in order to protect Clark's secret. Chloe ran off with Davis because she believed if she stayed with Davis,he wouldn't transform. So staying away from Clark with Davis would keep Clark alive it was a bad call to make. But she believed it was the right thing to do because she thought it was the beast not Davis doing the killing.
Last time I checked Chloe didn't kill anyone Clark lectured Oliver because he killed Lex.Lana has made so many bad choices the last 8 years while Chloe's made very few.Yet now all of a sudden for this season alone Chloe's getting a bad rep for what's happened.
if i remember correctly Chloe killed Sebastian and im not buying her Brainiac excuse and neither did Oliver and she didn't deny it when Oliver called her out on it
she was even going to help Oliver kill Lex
but yet Davis is worth saving more than Lex or Sebastian, why? I thought it was because she loved him but obviously she didn't so that just made her running away with Davis pointless
She allowed Davis to stay in her home allowing him to Kill AJ in Stiletto and almost killing Jimmy and Oliver. I knew Davis was a murderer no matter what even if the separation worked he showed that in Beast when he was flaunting how he could kill Jimmy or Oliver if he wanted to.
Then she stuck around and watch him kill neutron in Injustice instead of waking up and saying "hey i think I need clark's help by now"
AND THEN after clark asks her what happened she tells him "EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED CLARK. I SPLIT HIM" in regards to Black K'ing Davis and she says it in a tone as if though it were a bad call on Clark's end when in reality what Clark originally wanted was to send Davis/Dooms to the PZ but only changed his mind after Chloe guilt tripped him.
she goes on to deliver this "everything bad happens to me" speech to jimmy so he can feel sorry for her and forgive her instead of saying "things could have been different if i made better choices."
In eternal after realizing jimmy was right all along about davis all she says is jimmy is right but never acknowledges she was in the wrong
shes trying to play off as if though everything that happened was by fate and not in the least bit because she made bad choices and that doesn't sit well with me
Clois4eva89
05-15-2009, 04:09 PM
you have your views mr lane and I have mine Chloe isn't in the same boat as lana.
mr lane
05-15-2009, 04:10 PM
you have your views mr lane and I have mine Chloe isn't in the same boat as lana.
i dont ever recall saying chloe was in the same boat as lana so we dont seem to be debating the same thing
unless you can quote where ive said chloe is like lana
Sarevokcz
05-15-2009, 04:21 PM
There are zero excuses for a lot of things. If Chloe Sullivan is Lana Lang 2.0, then Oliver Queen is Lex Luthor 2.0.
yea, well, the difference is, Clark called Oliver on it, giving him lectures, in several episodes, Oliver even shown some kind of regrets (in Hex for example)
but Chloe? no, she is saint, she didnt do anything wrong and is called a hero, when ultimately her decision to stop Clark from sending DD to PZ, which was the most important moment in whole second half of the season, led to whole mess in 2 last episodes, including Jimmys death, Clarks giving up on humanity and Lois vanishing, she lost all of them all by herself, but is painted as if they betrayed her, thanks but no thanks.
Vindellavon
05-15-2009, 06:21 PM
yea, well, the difference is, Clark called Oliver on it, giving him lectures, in several episodes, Oliver even shown some kind of regrets (in Hex for example)
but Chloe? no, she is saint, she didnt do anything wrong and is called a hero, when ultimately her decision to stop Clark from sending DD to PZ, which was the most important moment in whole second half of the season, led to whole mess in 2 last episodes, including Jimmys death, Clarks giving up on humanity and Lois vanishing, she lost all of them all by herself, but is painted as if they betrayed her, thanks but no thanks.
First, Clark still has no clue Chloe commited that murder, and second, Jimmy barely knows squat about what happened behind the Brainiac issue, only when it affected his case during 'Abyss.' All Jimmy knew about the Doomsday crap was that Davis was Doomsday, his woman left him for another man, and that he was jobless and hopeless. That's it. The only reason Jimmy acalled her a 'hero' was because he saw the general overview of the situation at hand, which Jimmy himself thought was important, protect Clark. Chloe never resorted to admit her mistakes, that pisses me off, but I'm not blaming on her forever. She's no saint, hell to the &*!& no. She payed for sins, Clark payed for his, and Jimmy got the short end of the stick because that's how it was meant to be. Chloe was called out on her mistakes, not by Clark because he obviously can't seem to keep himself intact, but by Oliver. Clark can't see things other people can see, Olive knew what he was becoming, another Lex, and I think he pointed Chloe out in 'Eternal' because he knew whatever she was doing, she would pay dearly for, and that she was changing into someone else. Count the paybacks for the finale for the ones who comitted sins like normal beings, even if it was bad finale, Clark lost a friend, Oliver lost a friend and an ally, Chloe lost everything she could even hope to fall on. They all payed, no one's a saint here, and nor were they painted as so. As for Lana, she always had something tofall back on, she had her rebounds ready. For Chloe, she has nothing left but her mini brain of a computer. That's now saints get repayed. She did her crimes, and now she's payed her price. I was relived she payed for them now, rather than later. Redemption, here comes Chloe Sullivan.
actaeon
05-15-2009, 06:37 PM
What kills me is she was flirting with Davis. On the hood of that car, gazing up at the stars like a couple of innocent teenage lovers.
A couple of scenes later, and she's kissing Jimmy, and telling him there was nothing between Davis and her.
Was she lying or does she have the memory of a goldfish?
Violet-Shadow
05-15-2009, 06:42 PM
Of course Chloe didn't have any consequences for her actions. She's the hero of the show, right? I mean Smallville is all about Chloe Sullivan's origins, isn't it? Superman who? Chloe is more heroic than that guy in blue and red will ever be.
She's not the new Lana. She's only the best, most heroic person in all of televsion history. :rolleyes:
Of course, Chloe can't be blamed for any of this. No one except the writers can.
I wish I could still like her but I cannot.
melissan02
05-15-2009, 06:47 PM
Apparently she does get off scott-free.:rolleyes: I didn't even sense much (if any) guilt or remorse, or contemplation about how her actions led to the death of her husband who adored her.
Jedimaster_TTBaby
05-15-2009, 06:48 PM
I love Chloe, but i honestly thought that last night's episode should have been her last. I really thought Chloe was going to die...I mean this season was kinda leaning towards it and then "BAM" Jimmy dies? I got really pissed after that, especially since Jimmy knew Clark's secret.
Vindellavon
05-15-2009, 07:25 PM
What kills me is she was flirting with Davis. On the hood of that car, gazing up at the stars like a couple of innocent teenage lovers.
A couple of scenes later, and she's kissing Jimmy, and telling him there was nothing between Davis and her.
Was she lying or does she have the memory of a goldfish?
One thing for sure, she knows how to keep them on the tip of her fingers.
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