Has anyone even appreciated that Chloe is ALIVE?

[davidbrenton]

You know, I thought the only reason people would find to come down hard on this episode is that Chloe died. She in fact, has survived.

Has anyone noticed? Is anyone grateful?

[Jigga]

And the show is worst for it. She guilt trips the Man...seriously...

[ManOfSteel87]

Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

[thehenry89]

I don't really care either way.

[Tatiana]

I am happy she is alive, I don't think she was portrayed as a complete saint, Jimmy said she was a hero but well in a way he was right, she did sacrifice a lot and put herself in danger to save Clark, she made mistakes yes but she is human, we all do...I think they made it clear her actions had made things harder for Clark with what Rokk said, but of course Clark would have still saved her. I felt sorry for her in the end, she is all alone now

[amandaa125]

eh as of now i just wished they would have killed her off. i love chloe to death but this past season just makes me really not care for her character that much anymore. as far as her actions involving davis and clark, if chloe somehow died to do something honorable it would have redeemed her character in my opinion.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I am very happy she is alive.

[Storm45]

From what I heard the episode looked ridiculous. But I'm glad that the person dying was not Chloe.

[Smalvil1]

I would have perfered Henry lived and Chloe take is place. At east Henry doesnt question the kryptonian in kryptonian bussiness and get people killed.

Chloe not dying was one of my dissapointing moments

[samanthalyn720]

You know, I thought the only reason people would find to come down hard on this episode is that Chloe died. She in fact, has survived.

Has anyone noticed? Is anyone grateful?


Yes :D!! But I'm too upset about Davis to rejoice...

[BOUROUX]

I am happy she is alive, I don't think she was portrayed as a complete saint, Jimmy said she was a hero but well in a way he was right, she did sacrifice a lot and put herself in danger to save Clark, she made mistakes yes but she is human, we all do...I think they made it clear her actions had made things harder for Clark with what Rokk said, but of course Clark would have still saved her. I felt sorry for her in the end, she is all alone now

I am very happy she is alive.

[jpfort1957]

Chloe was not my #1 concern with the season 8 FINALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Infact she was way down the list!!!!!!!!!!

[ZODisGOD]

no, I wanted Chloe to die.

[darkphoenix21]

So glad she's alive. She's had her actions were up & down this season but it was always in some shape or form for Clark.

[Alicia Chipy]

I like AM but I don't want the show to turn into Chloeville.

[AgentChaos]

You know, I thought the only reason people would find to come down hard on this episode is that Chloe died. She in fact, has survived.

Has anyone noticed? Is anyone grateful?

Oh, I'm incredibly grateful Chloe is alive and not in mortal peril for the first time in years.

[doodie8808]

:mad:Hell No!!!!!!!!!!! She should have died!!!!!!!!! It is two seasons overdue. Please let her kill her self next season, please die Chloe! You are worthless! Oh I miss Jimmy:( and hate her with passion!:mad:

[Ella]

I can't be appreciative for Chloe when Jimmy is dead. Sorry. Plus I never thought Chloe would die. My bet was on Tess, which I'm happy made it. I love Cassidy. But yeah, boo on the whole Jimmy thing. :(

[kszonew]

Chloe's survival is one of the few things I liked about the finale. I just think there's a lot more things that people are concerned about that overlook the fact they were worried she wouldn't make it now that she actually did.

[Rachel B]

I'm glad that she's alive. She's one of the main reasons I watch. Or should I say watched, that was a HORRIBLE finale.

[Kryppy]

The important thing is good stories... If Chloe lives but we get the worst Season Finale in 8 years, what's to be happy about?

[weemanwise]

eh as of now i just wished they would have killed her off. i love chloe to death but this past season just makes me really not care for her character that much anymore. as far as her actions involving davis and clark, if chloe somehow died to do something honorable it would have redeemed her character in my opinion.

I feel the same way.

[malchloefan]

I am delighted that Chloe is still alive and still Watchtower. I think fake-Jimmy was wrong when he said she was as much of a hero as Clark though, she is more heroic!

[magikone]

Poor Chloe...kidnapped, her old powers gone, not being able to save Clark at the start of the season, (even though he was saved by Man Hunter in the end, the quilt Chloe suffered would have killed a lesser person), trying to help those at 'Iris', and having it thrown in her face, realizing her mind was no longer her own, nearly being taken over by an alien intelligence, being saved at the cost of losing her memories, her dream wedding being crashed, her new husband hurt, getting kidnapped again, Then...Chloe was 'possessed', fighting her best friend, nearly killed by the good guys...etc, etc, and in the end, after all she's lost, all that she gave up, she's alone.

Don't get me wrong, I love all the people of Smallville, but I think Chloe deserves a little more respect...just a bit.

[vikingjedi]

Chloe survived and Jimmy is gone. It was a good episode :)

[SVFancross]

I'm thrilled she's alive. I was respecting the "no gloating rule" because I felt so many were pinning their hopes on her death to be squeeful at her living seemed wrong. But I'm thrilled.

I think her holding her stomach at the end shows she experienced the equivalent of a gut shot when her whole point of running off with Davis was to preserve (in her mind, whether or not you agree with her) Clark's "Do No Kill" stance. Clark basically said he has to give up on his humanity and walked out on her.

So, thrilled she's alive but I also feel she got run over pretty hard by the events of the episode. To some extent, the episode left with Smallville consisting of one hero character -- Chloe. That's it. Sure, we've got Tess coming back as a villain but who is there to stop her and Zod? The JL has "dissappeared", Clark vanished, Lois is in another time, Jimmy & Davis are dead. Rather than being marginalized, it seems to me S10 will be her trying to resurrect Watchtower and gather good guys. I do love that for her "Watchtower" is "Jimmy". She will always take strength in that. Also, since it's technically her property, and it's a brand new set --- I think she's around for a big chunk of next year.

If it wasn't for Zod, I'd think we were going to get a time-jump of 5 years with Clark in training, Lois popping in like nothing has happened, and Jimmy not quite old enough to intern.

[Bizarrolover]

I never thought she was goint to die and I somehow imagined this scenario, everyone dying and she feeling responsible for the deaths, especially Clark's, but my biggest disappointment with this episode is that Chloe ended the hero and that she didn't take responsibility for the mess she created. She didn't apologize to Jimmy for trusting Davis over him (before she knew he was Doomy) and she didn't apologize to Clark for betraying him, from breaking into his fortress and closing the portal. She never said 'this is all my fault'. She stood in the 'watchtower' Jimmy presented to her (seriously, how did he manage to buy that place, I thought Jimmy was broke) and now she'll be the heroic woman that will bring back together the justice league and convince Clark that he's the superhero everyone needs. Next season she'll teach him how to fly.

[Minela]

I hope she goes away next season. :(

[SGuthrie27]

Of course I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy that Chloe is still alive! Regardless of this being a show about the origin of Superman and his growing, early years, discovering himself, his powers, and his mission, Chloe is still one of the main reasons that I keep watching. I love her character and always will. She strived the entire season to do what's right, even though she made plenty of mistakes along the way. It was gut-wrenching, the way that Chloe and Jimmy finally recognized each other for who they were and came to terms with why their relationship turned out the way it did and started to make a fresh start, and then BOOM. Argh. So YES, I'm THRILLED she's still among the land of the living.

That being said, am I totally TICKED that Jimmy is DEAD? Absolutely!!!!!!!! :(

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[davidbrenton]

Amanda,

I feel the same way. Chloe was "played out" in a lot of ways this season, and I don't appreciate her as I should. I''m a little disappointed she didn't croke.

[Rival X The Great]

they should have killed her off. She doesn't belong on the show anymore.

[AgentChaos]

Poor Chloe...kidnapped, her old powers gone, not being able to save Clark at the start of the season, (even though he was saved by Man Hunter in the end, the quilt Chloe suffered would have killed a lesser person), trying to help those at 'Iris', and having it thrown in her face, realizing her mind was no longer her own, nearly being taken over by an alien intelligence, being saved at the cost of losing her memories, her dream wedding being crashed, her new husband hurt, getting kidnapped again, Then...Chloe was 'possessed', fighting her best friend, nearly killed by the good guys...etc, etc, and in the end, after all she's lost, all that she gave up, she's alone.

Don't get me wrong, I love all the people of Smallville, but I think Chloe deserves a little more respect...just a bit.

She has definitely had the worst year of any character in the history of this show, and what does she end up with after all her sacrifices? Jimmy is dead, Davis is dead, Lois is missing, and Clark walked away from her.

What a charmed life.

[jpfort1957]

I like AM but I don't want the show to turn into Chloeville.

It couldn't have sucked any more than Lanaville!!!!!!!!!

[Kryptochloe]

Im glad... But I can't be happy right now...
Really, worst episode ever for all characters.... What is wrong with TPTB, really.

How they made it to mess with everyone???

[susangail]

I'm kinda disappointed. I figured she'd be the sacrifice, rather than Jimmy.

I like Chloe, but I hope Clark doesn't settle back with her alla high school. Way too much of the same. They both need to move on.

[Faby]

I am happy she survived! I just don't want the show to turn all Chloe centric next season, which they tend to do...remember Lana? This show is about Clark Kent.

[Ella]

I am happy she survived! I just don't want the show to turn all Chloe centric next season, which they tend to do...remember Lana? This show is about Clark Kent.
Was the episode Chloe centered? No. So why would next season be? Maybe the premiere will have more Chloe since she's the only one alive, not metaphorically dead or missing but it won't be "Chloeville".

People need to relax about that. With ED in 17 eps or more, no way can that happen.

I'm still sad about Jimmy being dead. :(:(:(

[Krypto~Luan]

im happy she lived, when davis went after her, i was worried she was next. I would have prob cried, but continued watching the show.

[Fugoukakusha]

For someone who is not tied to the mythos (which the writers said that's what they're going for) she awfully has a lot of screentime lol

[malchloefan]

I am happy that she was vindicated, it was clear (as I think it has been from the start) that she didn't have feelings for Davis.

[Krypto~Luan]

I think chloe will eventually die. Sadly yes, but she must still be there to help clark.

[Rival X The Great]

i say get rid of Chloe and bring Pete back. He was Clark's best friend before Chloe and he's in the comics. No they don't want bring him back.

[STFanatic]

[Mod Note]

If this thread turns into a bashing thread it will be closed.

[KryptoKnight]

I'm happy. Just disappointed the way she is being treated story-wise

[Rival X The Great]

[Mod Note]

If this thread turns into a bashing thread it will be closed.

my bad sorry.

[Krypto~Luan]

i say get rid of Chloe and bring Pete back. He was Clark's best friend before Chloe and he's in the comics. No they don't want bring him back.

They did bring him back in a 45 minuet commercial.:p

[Rival X The Great]

i know I was really looking forward to that episode when he was comming back. I still like hero for that fact.

[AndiGirl]

I'm happy she's alive....but I'm also incredibly confused and dumbfounded by the episode. So maybe I'll be more cheerful tomorrow? :\

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

The show copped out on killing her cause that was CLEARLY where it was leading. To quote someone elsewhere. "We had more anvils than a Bugs Bunny cartoon"


Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

Co-signing this

[dru-zod2501]

I WAS, until she had to ruin it with odes to Jimmy or Henry or whoever he was. Henry was right marrying her was he biggest mistake of his life she was every bit as poisonous to him as Lana was to Clark right up to the end

[Mrs. Superman]

I thought Id be happier but with the Jimmy dead, I find nothing in this episode can make me happy.

[targis]

Why didn't she just heal Jimmy at the end?

[Forney2414]

I'm glad Chloe is alive and will be Watchtower. That is a cool spin on the character and a good way to keep her important to the series. Everyone character on Smallville better listen to her in the future because she has gone threw as much as any hero needs to before she is taken serious. And maybe now she will stop trying to protect the person that is suppose to become a hero.

to the why she didn't heal him: she doesn't have powers anymore. When Brainiac infected her the writers stripped he of her healing power.

[DigitalKing]

The important thing is good stories... If Chloe lives but we get the worst Season Finale in 8 years, what's to be happy about?Exactly. I'm a huge Chloe fan, a Chloiser, the works, and I absolutely hated this finale. I'm a little glad that Chloe didn't die, but then again I never thought she would, given the hints we got and the fact that it wouldn't make narrative sense to kill her. If she had died, however, I'd never have been curious enough to hit the channel some Thursday night in the future (because I'm certainly not watching this stuff live anymore, or even TiVo-ing it) to see how her story would end.

I'm on the verge of declaring this episode worse than Requiem, Ageless, Sleeper, and all the others I disliked, because this one had much more leading into it as a finale. Chloe's survival doesn't change the fact that every single title character came out looking worse than how they did when they went in except Henry.

[Ella]

I am happy that she was vindicated, it was clear (as I think it has been from the start) that she didn't have feelings for Davis.
Although not clear to Davis and I guess not that clear to a lot of viewers since they did give us a scene with Chloe kissing Davis...so I'm not sure if saying there were no feelings is accurate. But yeah, regardless of her feelings, she was doing this for what she thought were the right reasons.

[smallvillereporter27]

Meh, I thought I'd be happier. But really, wasn't to fond of how she was portrayed in this episode. AM needs to move on to something better...lets hope AA does!

Honestly this episode blew up in the producers faces. They need to FIX IT! :p

[Usaghy_7]

I am happy she is alive - I didn't want her to die. I know a few of us are frustrated with how she was written this year, but overall I am overjoyed that my favorite charater is still there.

[xrayvision]

I'm very disappointed because not only did they kill off Jimmy over her, but they took up so much time from the episode with that and the fight we all were waiting to see was a whopping dud. And the biggest reason for my disappointment is because her character being around next season means the JLA will be on the show and will take over the focus rather than the show being about Superman & Superman-centric characters like Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Perry, etc. This to me is the worst possible direction the show could take & once it does, it will forever lose its identity. They should have ended the show & made a spin-off if that was their plan.

[Lilah]

Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

Yup. She needs to DIE and they need to bring back Jimmy! I'm really hoping s9 premiere's with Clark waking up saying "woah.... what a nightmare!"

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I WAS, until she had to ruin it with odes to Jimmy or Henry or whoever he was. Henry was right marrying her was he biggest mistake of his life she was every bit as poisonous to him as Lana was to Clark right up to the end

I agree. She's poison to everything she touches... she's just going to screw up the JLA we all know and love I just know it....

[xrayvision]

Yup. She needs to DIE and they need to bring back Jimmy! I'm really hoping s9 premiere's with Clark waking up saying "woah.... what a nightmare!"

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I agree. She's poison to everything she touches... she's just going to screw up the JLA we all know and love I just know it....

I hated the JLA since Justice. And I know my predictions that the show will be taken over by it will be true. So good luck to Clark/Superman fans, Clois fans, Jimmy fans, or fans who just wanted to see a Superman-centric show because now the season will be polluted by the likes of every hero but Superman/RBB.

[malft]

I thought I'd be happier, but the way they left Chloe gut shot is a downer, man.

[LoveHurts38]

I could care less.

[thehenry89]

I could care less.

Agreed

In the intrest of not sounding overly cruel I really don't care that chloe's alive.

[bigvillir001]

i love chloe as watchtower but the factshe cause all this in some way to jimmy clark ollie lois and the others is crazy if she jus let clark put dd pz things could have work out better tess would found out to trlease dd form pz by following the ord info dd and clark have fought clark dies beating him comes back just like the comic they only followed part of the story of clark dd

[morphs]

YES! I was so worried they were going to kill her off.

[mildmannered...]

I also am glad Chloe is still alive. I think it will be interesting to see how her situation gets redeemed. Yep, I'm an optimist!

[chlavisbug]

i thought id be happy, but what she did to davis was horrible ( & thats an under statement)
2 b honest i think it would have been better if her and davis died in dignity and ended the chlavis arc on a high.
i am angry!
& it was lame how jimmy wasnt jimmy- that was a complete waste BUT it does make sense now how jimmy is meant 2 b younger than them ect

[Runestone]

Chloe is my favourite character. I'll probably always stand by that. However, some of the things they've done to her character this season have been absolutely horrible. They're on the verge of writing her as the new Lana, and I'm getting really sick of it.

(Keep in mind I've watched less than half the season out of a loss of interest in the plot and characters.)

I can't believe she would be so fickle. She thinks she's in love with Davis, and then BOOM! All of a sudden she's back to Jimmy and no one says anything about how wrong that is? Hmm, sounds like Lana all over again. They're turning her into everyone's favourite plot device.

I'm glad she's still alive. I don't think it's too late to redeem her character as long as they make her recognise how low some of the things she's done have been. Bring back Chloe from the earlier seasons!

[acciobrain101]

Didn't care I am more busy hating this sucky episode...

[BackToTheLies]

I'm disappointed she survived because it should be Lois and Clark full time next year but it probably won't be now.

She and Lois are too far down the line development wise to co-exist on screen anymore and both have purpose to the show. You even saw it directly in this episode. Clark promising one cousin he'll find the other, and then the former disappears once he's found the latter.

[Marfeic2011]

my biggest fear was that Chloe would die - so yes I am VERY VERY VERY glad they didn't kill her & for this reason & this reason alone I will be watching the season premier in the fall - but we'll see after that...

[CloisFan17]

Um Yes!!! I adore her & love Allison I would hate to see SV without her :)

[dotsie23]

I don't hate Chloe at all (Clark is my fave)! I really didn't care either way I was upset at Jimmy dying...fake or real! and to me that was pretty lame too.:(

[Karafan1]

I thought for sure they were gonna kill her off in the finale until I read a few spoilers last month but she lives for 1 more year!!

[amalie]

I wanted Chloe to live before this but now I wish she'd died. They hero worshiped her in this episode, despite her obvious mistakes, and we ended up with saint Chloe. To top it off they then sacrificed Jimmy for her. I'm not going to be rooting for Chloe anymore.

[davidbrenton]

I wanted Chloe to live before this but not I wish she'd died. They hero worshiped her in this episode, despite her obvious mistakes, and we ended up with saint Chloe. To top it off they then sacrificed Jimmy for her. I'm not going to be rooting for Chloe anymore.

I agree...it took the whole season, but I really dislike her now. It's not really because of Jimmy, but more because I just....don't like her.


---Quite honestly, I was amping up for Chloe's death, and then I realized how sad it would be. But, then, it didn't happen and I thought the perfect opportunity to salvage the memory and experience I had of her was vaporized. Now, she'll be over-utilized and very much tarnished/ruined and unenjoyable for me to watch/root for.

[pbush77]

1. Chloe implied Davis was dead when Clark first found them all lazing around.
2. Having another scene - where Jimmy said Davis was going to be fine - was unnecessary to Davis's fate and thus came out of nowhere.
3. Tom looked fatter at the end of this episode.

Conclusion? I think they changed the ending to result in Jimmy's death, which wasn't originally planned to happen (in this episode, at least). :eek: I suspect the plan was to kill Chloe, but when they decided against it the show had to get rid of another cast member due to budgetary concerns.

[michaelkent]

I am thrilled that My favorite character from Smallville is still alive, although it appears season 9 will be her final year. Besides her survival, I loved the final episode for the following reasons:

1. Jimmy the Geek is dead. I found him to be one of the biggest downers of the Smallville series, because the writers attempted to make a scrawny, nerdish loudmouth a heroic figure. I could only stand the geek in small doses and even those were too much. This whiner constantly complained about Chloe's closeness to Clark (i.e.: moaning when she accompanied Clark into the woods in an earlier episode and acting as if she had to have his childish permission before she could go somewhere with a friend. Pouting and whinning like a teenager when he read the letter that Chloe had written to Clark back in high school about her feelings for him and demanding to know why she didn't write those words about him). Then after they were married and he recovered from the coma (which Chloe did not cause), he falls apart when he sees Chloe giving Davis a hug and screams that marrying her was the biggest mistake of his life. Even when she encouraged him to come home so they talk about what has happened, the crybaby teenager stormed off in a temper tantrum. When she attempted to e-mail Jimmy the Geek, he responded with expletives and told her not to contact him any longer. It was Jimmy who brought the marriage to an end, not Chloe.

As an added note, my wife and I have been married for 29 years and I am convinced no woman should ever have to go through the childish, moronic fits of a whining guy who claims that he loves her. I pray that any young lady who is going with a 'boy' that has Jimmy the Geek's personality should seriously consider whether this is a guy you want to marry. It is likely that this child will be possessive and consistently whine that he is not receiving enough attention. In other words he will want his wife to be his mother.

Jimmy, you were not Chloe's dream guy (that was Clark), but she chose you and loved you. It's a shame you didn't realize how fortunate you were to have her until the very end. Now you're gone and I welcome your absence. Chloe deserves someone far better than you.

2. Lois the [mod edit] Lane has gone to the future. It would be wonderful if she never returned but I realize that isn't what will happen. She will be back but I find her absence a welcome relief.

3. Chloe will be the Watchtower for the fledgling Justice League next season (at least this seems to be likely) until her departure (at the end of season 9?).

I was expecting the finale to be a very sad event to watch, however I found it to be quite satisfying.

[borednow]

Jimmy Olsen died! Who cares about the girl who got him killed! Gahhh!

[Krypto~Luan]

Im glad he's dead. I was never a fan of jimmy. i only feel bad for chloe,

[ginnyfan]

I thought I'd be happier.

[cloisornothing]

Actually, Chloe's death would have making sense to Clark's decision. After all she did for Clark in season 8, death was the only exit for her. She would have a heroic death.

[moviefan2k4]

I was very relieved that Chloe survived, but at the same time I felt very sad that Jimmy died. I take a (very small) measure of comfort in the fact he died a hero, saving her from Davis (not Doomsday), even at the expense of his own life.

Allison is easily my favorite actress on the series, and her character has become just as pivotal as Clark himself. Unlike some (who shall remain nameless), I don't believe that's such a terrible thing. She's a great ally to Clark, and she's proven it more times than I'd like to count. I just hope they don't kill her off when the show wraps up, because at this point I think she deserves better than that.

[magikone]

Yeah! What you said!

[TheAmazingApe]

I would be happy. Chloe has been my character investment for a long time and a reason to stay with what has become an increasingly crappy show.

But it's not worth it anymore. She's not worth staying for a show that has no plan. Retcon, lightswitch, reset, repeat. This is what happens when a show stays on past its time. And I've stuck with shows like that. I stayed with X-files through seasons 8 and 9 because I cared about Scully and (the absent) Mulder. The mythology was convuluted and retconned and impossible, but I loved those characters and never regretted staying for them.

But this show has lost all its shine. It's low-budget, incoherent, and inconsistent and, much as I love Chloe, I can't take it anymore.

I'm retiring to Ficville.

I nearly wish she had gone because I'm afraid of being tempted back next season.

[NinaDavis]

I'm disappointed she survived.

I really wish to seea world without Chloe, with Clark (for a change) thinking by himself. The show focus (screentime) in him.

I cant help it, she is soo boring to me.

[moe_bosco]

So happy she didn't die :)

[Jack-El49]

Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

Chloe = NewLana! The sad part abiout her surviving is that she will pay no price for the events that could have been avoided. Jimmy's death is now on her hands, too. Everyone else pays, Chloe just goes on like the Energizer Bunny.

She should be in jail for the remainder of the series for her actions in this season but of course, she'll be sitting behind the Watchtower console next season.


I would have perfered Henry lived and Chloe take is place. At east Henry doesnt question the kryptonian in kryptonian bussiness and get people killed.

Chloe not dying was one of my dissapointing moments

I truly could have cared less whether she lived or died going in to the episode just because she really has been a pointless character for several seasons now, but by the end of the episode, I wanted Clark to come in at the end and tell her never to communicate with him again; that saving her back in Legion led to the death or disappearance of people that do matter to him.


I like AM but I don't want the show to turn into Chloeville.

I like AM too but this show has been Chloeville since Lois appeared and was so popular that they kept her as a regular and had nothing useful for Chloe to do since then. :rolleyes:

[SacredK]

Yes.

[duskwillow]

She is the one responsible for all that went down in finale, and for everyone who got hurt or killed since Beast.
If she hasn't manipulated Clark into not sending her sociopath pet serial killer in the Phantom Zone everyone would have been safe and alive. All that blood - on her hands. Just because she's dreaming of jumping Davis and enjoys gazing at the stars with him.
Then she plays the victim, wants both Jimmy and Clark to jump at every word she says and whines when she doesn't get her way?

She should be in jail for accessory to murder, not getting away scot free, and getting rewarded with the new condo.
I'm disgusted with the message they are sending.

So, yes, I would have preferred if she died while trying to redeem herself for all the blood that's on her hands.

[skugers]

I'm disappointed she survived. For the reasons Jack already pointed out, and Cris above. I'm actually mad Jimmy died instead of her...
How will everyone even look at her in S9 after all she did??? But wait, it's SV so everything is forgot and forgiven in half an episode or less... See Lana...

[amalie]

I'm disappointed she survived. For the reasons Jack already pointed out, and Cris above. I'm actually mad Jimmy died instead of her...
How will everyone even look at her in S9 after all she did??? But wait, it's SV so everything is forgot and forgiven in half an episode or less... See Lana...


Exactly. I hate that the producers are going to make everyone forgive her. How can they be so completely wrong on this one? How can they not see her mistakes when the rest of us can? I really don't understand why they need to do this with the prominent female characters. It's as if they can commit any crime they want and not only will all be forgiven, they'll be named heroes for it :mad:

[Marissa]

I am very very happy she's still alive.

[Joanna]

I like AM but I don't want the show to turn into Chloeville.

That's exactly my thought. I have serious concerns about her role in the next season, I hope she won't play such a big part and that she will get considerably less screentime. Nothing against her, I just don't like when the focus of the show is taken away from Clark, and this happened in a few episodes this season and, in my opinion, was unnecessary

[SVFancross]

How can they not see her mistakes when the rest of us can?

But I don't agree with you.

Except for "killing" Davis with Green-K (which I also think was something she felt she had choice to do to protect Clark), I understand and accept all her actions as trying to do the right thing and protect Clark from abandoning his own beliefs for the sake of expediency. I see her as a hero and I think that's what the producers wanted us to see. So, I'm happy with her being alive and sad that she's alone with only the memory of Jimmy's complete and total "understanding" to keep her going.

Bottom line: Although many on this site may see your point of view, that doesn't mean everyone who watches has your viewpoint on Chloe and her actions.

[DorothyFan1]

Poor Chloe...kidnapped, her old powers gone, not being able to save Clark at the start of the season, (even though he was saved by Man Hunter in the end, the quilt Chloe suffered would have killed a lesser person), trying to help those at 'Iris', and having it thrown in her face, realizing her mind was no longer her own, nearly being taken over by an alien intelligence, being saved at the cost of losing her memories, her dream wedding being crashed, her new husband hurt, getting kidnapped again, Then...Chloe was 'possessed', fighting her best friend, nearly killed by the good guys...etc, etc, and in the end, after all she's lost, all that she gave up, she's alone.

Don't get me wrong, I love all the people of Smallville, but I think Chloe deserves a little more respect...just a bit.

You pretty much summed up what they've done to Chloe these years. She's been bashed on by the writers for quite a while and yes...now she's alone. I was shocked but surprised what Jimmy said to her though. I think those words about her was from the heart and I believe those were the thoughts of the producers when he said that.

So I appreciate the writers throwing those little words in there. I would have appreciated seeing Chloe's face at that moment. It would have made a nice little present. ;)

In any case, Chloe is definitely a hero and I for one am grateful she survived last night's episode. Will I get the Season 8 DVD set? I think I will now. I am disappointed Chloe is not on the cover of that DVD set...but I know the real treasure is what's inside...Chloe Sullivan shining through.

The best present though would be learning DC Comics is introducing Chloe Sullivan to the Superman mythology. If Jimmy Olsen really is dead...I hope the one who replaces him is Chloe.

[amalie]

But I don't agree with you.

Except for "killing" Davis with Green-K (which I also think was something she felt she had choice to do to protect Clark), I understand and accept all her actions as trying to do the right thing and protect Clark from abandoning his own beliefs for the sake of expediency. I see her as a hero and I think that's what the producers wanted us to see. So, I'm happy with her being alive and sad that she's alone with only the memory of Jimmy's complete and total "understanding" to keep her going.

Bottom line: Although many on this site may see your point of view, that doesn't mean everyone who watches has your viewpoint on Chloe and her actions.


I agree that not everyone agrees with me, I should have made that clear in my post.

However I think you're missing a few more mistakes she's made. What about lying to Clark about hiding Davis? That one's my biggest issue. Not trusting Clark in the FoS? Running away and taking control of everything alone? Something she has no right to do. Jepordizing everyone's lives to save one man, Clark?

However I look at this, whatever her motivation, Chloe has some responsibility to accept. Unfortunately I don't see her doing that and everyone else is ignoring it too. Why aren't the police knocking on her door for aiding a fugitive? Last time I looked that was still a crime and Chloe's involvement with Davis is no secret. The producers are conveniently overlooking this and that annoys me.

[RaniaLovesClois]

Ι don't care.

[Selina]

To be honest, I'm so annoyed that Jimmy's been given the boot and the way in which the mythology lives on, that I'm failing to care who has survived. I really don't give a too-hoots right now.

[wafflles87]

I really really REALLY don't care about Chloe being alive or dead or on the moon or in another dimension.

Right now, she's the least of my problems, the biggest being the crappyness that was this finale.

[Kneel before Zod]

I never had any doubt that she would live. However, I fail to see the relevance of Chloe's character at this point. I'm more concerned with the fate of Lois. I'm really hoping they didn't just use the Legion Ring to write Lois out of the story for most of Season 9.

[SVFancross]

However I look at this, whatever her motivation, Chloe has some responsibility to accept. Unfortunately I don't see her doing that and everyone else is ignoring it too. Why aren't the police knocking on her door for aiding a fugitive? Last time I looked that was still a crime and Chloe's involvement with Davis is no secret. The producers are conveniently overlooking this and that annoys me.IA. Personally I thought when she said "I know who is responsible for Jimmy's death, I was here" that she's actually blaming herself. I can see why you don't see it that way. Perhaps they'll be more clear on this in S9 -- I'll be disappointed if they don't.

As for the police -- SV fanwanked that so many times I see no difference in this "brush with the law" then the last 82 times it has happened. Clark and Lois saw her as a hostage, no reason to think the police didn't see it that way as well.

ETA:

What about lying to Clark about hiding Davis? That one's my biggest issue. As Clark said in Injustice, it seems like lying to protect the ones you love (in this case Chloe was protecting Clark) was the theme of the season. Clark nodded his head at the end of Beast when Chloe apologized for lying and said she did it because she knew he would stop her from sacrificing herself. Clark understands what she did and why IMO.


Not trusting Clark in the FoS?She knew he' regret his own actions and said that was her motive-- I believe her. She has a PhD in Clark-guilt. He said it both in Injustice & Doomsday. He really wanted to try and save Davis and the PZ was the "easy way out". Clark agreed with Chloe's actions. That's enough for me.


Running away and taking control of everything alone? Something she has no right to do.Common theme on Smallville. Certainly Clark has done it a gazillion times. After all she's been thru with Clark, why doesn't she have a right to try and fix something? I don't see her as a minion so I think she had a right to try and solve the problem and do what she thinks was the best solution. Davis WAS being controlled (or at least she thought so) by her presence. She had every reason to believe she could save Clark and Davis both.


Jepordizing everyone's lives to save one man, Clark?Clark jeopardized everyone's life to save Chloe in Legion and Davis in the last few episodes. How many times in the comics/movies did Clark put eveyone's life in jeopardy to save Lois or Jimmy? What was that whole spin the earth backwards manuever? I think it's a pretty standard "fare" in Superman and other shows to go to extremes to save someone's life.


Honestly, I sense a double-standard here. Insert your favorite character's name in the role of Chloe and see if you would feel the same. We've seen all the good guys take risks and try to save the situation on their own many many times. If you like the character it's "courageous", if not "they have no right"?

[DorothyFan1]

I agree that not everyone agrees with me, I should have made that clear in my post.

However I think you're missing a few more mistakes she's made. What about lying to Clark about hiding Davis? That one's my biggest issue. Not trusting Clark in the FoS? Running away and taking control of everything alone? Something she has no right to do. Jepordizing everyone's lives to save one man, Clark?

However I look at this, whatever her motivation, Chloe has some responsibility to accept. Unfortunately I don't see her doing that and everyone else is ignoring it too. Why aren't the police knocking on her door for aiding a fugitive? Last time I looked that was still a crime and Chloe's involvement with Davis is no secret. The producers are conveniently overlooking this and that annoys me.

If negotiations for Allison Mack fails for a Season 10 contract assuming there is a Season 10...then they're setting up plenty of ways of having her exit the series without being killed off. Believe me I don't think the producers are relishing the prospect of losing Allison Mack. She's a very big draw for Smallville. There will be no way Smallville can possibly survive without her presence.

So Season 9 better be very Chloe friendly for instance and I believe one thing Chlark fans deserve is a Chlark romance next season. If that's her last...it's what the character Chloe deserves...Clark as her lover.

[amalie]

IA. Personally I thought when she said "I know who is responsible for Jimmy's death, I was here" that she's actually blaming herself. I can see why you don't see it that way. Perhaps they'll be more clear on this in S9 -- I'll be disappointed if they don't.

As for the police -- SV fanwanked that so many times I see no difference in this "brush with the law" then the last 82 times it has happened. Clark and Lois saw her as a hostage, no reason to think the police didn't see it that way as well.

I persoanlly don't see that line as her accepting responsibility but I can see how you might interpret it that way. To me, she's talking about Davis. I find it hard to forgive peoples mistakes when they're unwilling to admit them themselves, so far Chloe hasn't.

Clark and Lois may have seen her as a hostage but I didn't. All of the things she did were her choice and imo she showed an incredible lack of judgement when making thoes choices.

[Selina]

If negotiations for Allison Mack fails for a Season 10 contract assuming there is a Season 10...then they're setting up plenty of ways of having her exit the series without being killed off. Believe me I don't think the producers are relishing the prospect of losing Allison Mack. She's a very big draw for Smallville. There will be no way Smallville can possibly survive without her presence.


I like Chloe but I cant agree with this. Sure she's popular with an ardent fanbase but she doesn't make the show and it will still go without her.

I never thought it would be the same without Lex (in a way it isn't from a personal standpoint). The show does miss his prssence but it has gone on without him and I believe the same applies to Chloe. After all the show is still going steady without, Lex, Lionel, Johnathon, Matha and Lana (that's discounting Pete and Kara). Those who only watch the show for Chloe will turn of. Just like how those who only watched for Lex turned of. However the core fanbase will still persist, which are a combination of SV fans on a whole and the mytho fans.

[Luthorism]

Don't really care. But it's a fact that she's one of the reasons that Jimmy died..

[LoveHurts38]

The best present though would be learning DC Comics is introducing Chloe Sullivan to the Superman mythology. If Jimmy Olsen really is dead...I hope the one who replaces him is Chloe.

Chloe will never replace Jimmy in the comics;) DC was not happy with SVJimmy due to age he needed to be younger than Lois and Clark to line up with the mythos for S9.

[computermaster]

i'm happychloe survived this episode but i still want her to die. Her death needs to be unique and awesome.

[Jigga]

Chloe will never replace Jimmy in the comics;) DC was not happy with SVJimmy due to age he needed to be younger than Lois and Clark to line up with the mythos for S9.

I'm not sure where this started or why, but it's definitely the lamest excuse ever. If they were worried about the age difference, they should have been worried about the entire show since it's continually trashes everything in the mythos.

[amalie]

Chloe will never replace Jimmy in the comics;) DC was not happy with SVJimmy due to age he needed to be younger than Lois and Clark to line up with the mythos for S9.


Do you really think that's why they did it? I reckon that's a massive excuse personally. Aaron's interview said that DC was initially unhappy but I don't think there was any form of ultimatum. This was all the producers choice and it had nothing to do with Jimmy's age imo.

I do agree with you though, there's no way Chloe will be replacing Jimmy in the comics :lol:

[DigitalKing]

I love how everyone is saying Clark has his screentime taken away by Chloe, when Clark is far and away the person with the most screentime. It seems as if people are just mad that Chloe gets any screentime at all, so any time she's on the screen is too much to them.

[amalie]

I'm not sure where this started or why, but it's definitely the lamest excuse ever. If they were worried about the age difference, they should have been worried about the entire show since it's continually trashes everything in the mythos.


It cam from AA's interview but he doesn't specifically say that's the reason. He was asked by the producers about 6 months ago what he'd think of Jimmy being sacrificed for Chloe but he didn't think it would happen as Jimmy's a mythos character. He then mentions that DC initially had a problem with Jimmy being the same age as Lois and Clark but it can't have bothered them that much if thy let it stick for 3 years, especially when you consider some of the other major deviations from the mythos.

[eas]

Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

Yep.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Well I just knew she wouldn't die... So I have no feelings about it whatsoever... It was just logical that they wouldn't kill off the character who is central to almost every plot, and has been since season 1...

But at the moment, I actually don't like any of the characters whatsoever...

Why am I still watching this show?

[DiabeticDude202]

Chloe is the best character on the show. She is the only reason I am watching the show. If she died in season 8 there would be no season nine for me and it would turn into a Lois & Clark series, instead of the ORIGIN of Superman series.

Chloe is what makes Smallville what it is.

[amalie]

Chloe is the best character on the show. She is the only reason I am watching the show. If she died in season 8 there would be no season nine for me and it would turn into a Lois & Clark series, instead of the ORIGIN of Superman series.

Chloe is what makes Smallville what it is.


Right now, Chloe's ruining Smallville for me :(

[nic25]

I really dont care either way.Clark Kent and Lois Lane are the most impotant to me.Im more hating what they did to jimmy.I believe that had this been the last season she would have been dead,and Jimmy would have remained being the really Jimmy.

[Kryptochloe]

I really understand not everybody have to think or feel the same way. But really, why blame Chloe even for the polution on the planet??
Yeah, she made lot of mistakes, lots of her actions lead her to what happen os season finale, but so was the desicions of Clark, Oliver, Tess, Davis, Jimmy, etc.
I mean, what, she is now also guilty of Lois dissapearing????? (I wouldn't be that much surprised if somebody suggest this:rolleyes:).

Really people, stop blaming characters (which is what they are) and blame the real responsibles for this show: THE PRODUCERS. Im pretty sure if Chloe never existed on Smallville, the season finale would have been exactly as awful as it was. Except some other character would have assumed the story arc of Chloe.
There were plenty of other horrible things developed on this episode that make me be sure of this, not only Chloe's arc. Let's put the blame where it really belongs.

Im wondering: If Chloe had died people would think was the best season ending just for that reason????:rolleyes:

PS: Im sorry if anyone dislike my post, I needed to let it out of my chess.
The thing is used to love all of the characters on this show, but the hatress on this forum reached a level to high for me... and that has made me start to dislike some "favorites" just because of some of their fans... crazy, huh?:(

[Jigga]

I really understand not everybody have to think or feel the same way. But really, why blame Chloe even for the polution on the planet??
Yeah, she made lot of mistakes, lots of her actions lead her to what happen os season finale, but so was the desicions of Clark, Oliver, Tess, Davis, Jimmy, etc.
I mean, what, she is now also guilty of Lois dissapearing????? (I wouldn't be that much surprised if somebody suggest this:rolleyes:).

Really people, stop blaming characters (which is what they are) and blame the real responsibles for this show: THE PRODUCERS. Im pretty sure if Chloe never existed on Smallville, the season finale would have been exactly as awful as it was. Except some other character would have assumed the story arc of Chloe.
There were plenty of other horrible things developed on this episode that make me be sure of this, not only Chloe's arc. Let's put the blame where it really belongs.

Im wondering: If Chloe had died people would think was the best season ending just for that reason????:rolleyes:

Possibly as it would signal one of those rare times when the writers actually stuck to character motivations and consequences rather than just needing the character to be an idiot to drive the plot forward.

[chica02]

With the direction they're taking her character (she's the new Lana) and the fact that pretty much every bad thing that happened in this finale was mostly her fault, I wanted them to kill her off. I used to be a big Chloe fan but they've ruined her character for me.

[gardenia]

No, I am not glad she is alive.

[wafflles87]

No, I am not glad she is alive.

Ditto.

IMO, Chloe and Jimmy's roles should've been reversed at the end.

Chloe should've died. Jimmy should've lived.

[amalie]

Ditto.

IMO, Chloe and Jimmy's roles should've been reversed at the end.

Chloe should've died. Jimmy should've lived.
Exactly what I think should have happened.

[skugers]

Yeah, Jimmy was sacrificed for Chloe to live. Crap.

[Jack-El49]

Ditto.

IMO, Chloe and Jimmy's roles should've been reversed at the end.

Chloe should've died. Jimmy should've lived.

The only good thing about Chloe surviving is that next season, her contract does indeed expire and so will Chloe; maybe Zod will tie her to a stake and roast her like a Thanksgiving turkey.

However, what is more likely is that Zod will see her, fall in love with her (sorta like Lana love), and they'll live happily ever after in some alternate universe; far, far away from the Superman universe to which she does not belong.

[wafflles87]

Yeah, Jimmy was sacrificed for Chloe to live. Crap.

It's what I think too.

I don't think we'll ever get confirmation, but lemme tell ya, it doesn't make me love Chloe right now.

[costas22]

Normally i would have liked Chloe coming back but what's the point really? The only use they can think of for her, is have her do things that will rile up fans. If someone had to be killed off, Chloe or Tess should have died before Jimmy. I don't believe that they are capable of finding her a decent story that could keep people off her back.

[mangotango]

I'm happy she's alive. But then I was pretty sure she would be anyway.

[Jack-El49]

Alive? I thought she'd be dead by now but the fact that she isn't doesn't bother me nearly as much as her being portrayed as some selfless heroine. That makes me want to vomit.

She can be alive as long as she's the character that just leaves next season. She doesn't need to hang around. Clark isn't interested and I don't think Ollie is pleased with her. She should hand the keys to Ollie in Episode 1 of Season 9 and walk away (in disguise of course for aiding and abetting; and being an accessory after the fact to murder).

[ginnyfan]

Normally i would have liked Chloe coming back but what's the point really? The only use they can think of for her, is have her do things that will rile up fans. If someone had to be killed off, Chloe or Tess should have died before Jimmy. I don't believe that they are capable of finding her a decent story that could keep people off her back.

She seems really excited about Watchtower. Maybe with the new set, something interesting will develop on that end. Then again, I'm not that excited about watching Chloe sit at a desk and give a bunch of guys exposition.

It'll be interesting to see what Chloe does for 3 months, estranged from the JLA and with Clark gone. I'm a little curious. *sigh*

I didn't want her to die but... I'm not really feeling happy either.

[SVrnFAN]

I am very happy that Chloe lived; although, I did not think she was going to die. :D Chloe will be back next year and be just as IMPORTANT as ever!

I am very sorry for all the Jimmy and Davis fans - Jimmy died a hero but Davis - WTF :mad:

[skugers]

I don't want her to be the "leader" of the JLA. Period. A S9 centered on Chloe and "her" JLA, as the Watchtower, would only enhance my feeling that TPTB are willing to sacrifice anything just to keep her on this show. No way in hell.

[JuniorV]

Soooo glad Chloe is still alive and that Jimmy is dead. Jimmy had some of the worst story lines in the history of the show. (Superspy Jimmy? Come on!) I found Jimmy annoying. And poor Aaron, but as soon as he started loosing his hair a few seasons ago I couldn't stop looking at him and going "Jimmy's not supposed to be balding!". I think they HAD to get rid of him before it got any worse :) They were already cutting off the top of his head in a lot of his shots.

Chloe is a great part of the show's history. Would be a tragedy if she was gone... much like the "death" of Lex.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

I might have cared at one time, but not now. Heck I can tolerate Lana, Chloe to me is the worst character ever. Bring back Pete. Chloe is NOT someone Clark needs as a BFF, he'd get more loyalty from a rattle snake



The best present though would be learning DC Comics is introducing Chloe Sullivan to the Superman mythology. If Jimmy Olsen really is dead...I hope the one who replaces him is Chloe.

No offense but that would be one of the DUMBEST things they could ever do. The backlash would be epic. Most don't care about or even know who Chloe is unless they watch Smallville. Comic fans mostly don't give two craps and wouldn't want an ICON like Jimmy to be replaced by a character that the writers clearly don't know what to do with and a character that has to be propped by everyone on the show

An epic character like Jimmy being replaced by someone who's NOT part of the mythos, and ONLY exists on Smallville? Backlash of epic proportions :eek:

[smithy698]

I'm glad Chloe survived, but I'm also glad that Ollie and Tess made it through the finale. If we do get SW back as Zod then I'll be over the moon - all my favorite characters and actors back for another season.

[Iluvgreen]

I'm surprised that she lived!!!!! AND I'm extrememly happy. But I'm sad for Jimmy.

[redRound]

I have mixed feelings about her, Alison is a great actress, but the character Chloe should have died ages ago.

[SnowBird]

I'm glad Chloe is still with us at least for another season.

[amandaa125]

After how chloes been portrayed this season, i wish she would have died. Jimmy should have lived. There should have not been a retcon. They seriously just made things more confusing.

[HeartChakraBabe]

I never thought she'd be the one to die, but yeah, of course I'm happy she survived. If you can call what they've done to her character this season surviving. :rolleyes: :mad:

[sarahsmom]

I am glad she survived. I am confused though and sorry if this is the wrong thread but doesn't she still have her healing power?? Not healing Jimmie was dumb.

[FlashInSV]

YEAH! And she's finally gonna go all Barbara Gordon and create a Watchtower!

[Clana Kent]

I can't tell how glad I am she survived! It really got me pumped for next year :) Hopefully she'll be leading the Justice League in her new Penthouse (a.k.a. Watchtower, Justice League Headquarters)!

Go Chloe, we love you!!! :D

[marcella]

I wanted her to die, but I'm not upset she didn't. I'm liking her now

[interstellar]

No. Chloe warps the show around her in a way that Lana NEVER did. I can't think of a character which I think is worse in any medium.

[dru-zod2501]

1. Chloe implied Davis was dead when Clark first found them all lazing around.
2. Having another scene - where Jimmy said Davis was going to be fine - was unnecessary to Davis's fate and thus came out of nowhere.
3. Tom looked fatter at the end of this episode.

Conclusion? I think they changed the ending to result in Jimmy's death, which wasn't originally planned to happen (in this episode, at least). :eek: I suspect the plan was to kill Chloe, but when they decided against it the show had to get rid of another cast member due to budgetary concerns.
huh:confused:
how does #3 connect to #1 & #2??

[Vindellavon]

Well then, she made it out alive and perfectly destroyed. Season nine Chloe should be all centered around JLA, she needs tore deem herself, and she needs to find Bruce Wayne. Fast.

[quiet_fractures]

Yes. But this means I have to continue to watch Smallville.

[luvinChlark]

Yes. But this means I have to continue to watch Smallville.

Exactly. If she would have died I'd be FREEE 4eva!! :( Now I have to watch, except maybe I won't anyway. SV is just going downhill IMO. (much like Seventh Heaven did) That was the worst finale.

[kookykrumbs]

I'm disappointed that Chloe survived because I think her character has already run its course. What's there left for her to do that has anything to do with the mythos? She's just taking up precious screentime that I'd rather see on Lois/Oliver/Tess or even more of Clark. The problem is that Clark is so close to becoming Superman at this point and Chloe was never part of the whole mythos and what's pissed me off for so long is that the show Smallville has given her character such importance that was never necessary.

[Newguy43]

Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

Well put,exactly what i was thinking. i realize shes a fan favorite but come on lets get Lois rolling and Chloe out

[THEcrownsMINE]

Yeah I wouldn't really have cared too much....how can I appreciate Chloe's safety when Jimmy died? (hahaha I never pictured myself saying that ever) :)

[smallvillereporter27]

I can't really appreciate Chloe being alive after her portrayal in this episode. I've been a Chloe fan since season 1 and this was NOT in character for Chloe. She shares some of the blame, yet takes no responsibility. If they don't redeem her character next season, I will be very upset.

However, everyone watches Smallville for their own reasons. What I still can't believe is that almost all of the fan bases got shafted last night. This amazes me...

[Night_Hawk90]

no im not happy chloe survived just like i wasnt happy with her being alive in Gone( i wonder how much better this show could have been without her), i seriously dont what else this character has left to offer

[Boycott SF:Movie]

I'm glad but she'll just die next season. :P

[Jill]

I'm very glad she is alive.

[paolinki25]

Chloe survived at the expense of everyone else and of the entire show. She is the new Lana.

It really pains me to say this, because I like Chloe, but I'm beginning to have this "Is she still needed on the show?" feeling. The same feeling I started getting with Lana after season 4-5. :\

[Boycott SF:Movie]

Chloe's existence may explain why everything is screwed up.

[Honey45]

I'm extremely disappointed that she survived because the show is unnecessarily revolving around her and it's annoying as hell. She is NOT the hero that she is made out to be and deserves a reality check for her actions.

Everything terrible that happened is a direct result of Chloe's actions. Yet she is still made out to be the victim.

[drvr8]

She's gotten pretty irritating towards the end of this season. I was ready to see her killed off and wish she had gotten axed from Infamous timeline story...

[justme_007]

I am glad she is alive but this finale was just horrible

[SGuthrie27]

Not me. I have to say, again, that I'm very happy and relieved that Chloe is still alive, and I think she does still serve a vital purpose to the overall Smallville story, if not the Superman mythos at large. She's been Clark's truest, closest confidante, and has done so much to protect and defend him over the course of the last five seasons. I do agree on one point, that she does need to accept some responsibility for her actions. I think that she does feel very responsible -- you could tell from how emotional she was at Jimmy's funeral, and the little speech she gave him about his always saying and doing the right thing, that she cared about him deeply and regretted her decisions, though it would've been nice for her to say she was sorry out loud. Still, I love her character, and will continue to defend her. She did make some major mistakes this season, but it was all with the best of intentions, and I'm sure it'll lead her to become an even stronger and more resolved character throughout the course of Season 9.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[PepsiMax]

Though I'd be happier. What's worse is that she was like one of my favourite characters and after season 8 I honestly could not care less what happens to her.

[Kryptochloe]

Not me. I have to say, again, that I'm very happy and relieved that Chloe is still alive, and I think she does still serve a vital purpose to the overall Smallville story, if not the Superman mythos at large. She's been Clark's truest, closest confidante, and has done so much to protect and defend him over the course of the last five seasons. I do agree on one point, that she does need to accept some responsibility for her actions. I think that she does feel very responsible -- you could tell from how emotional she was at Jimmy's funeral, and the little speech she gave him about his always saying and doing the right thing, that she cared about him deeply and regretted her decisions, though it would've been nice for her to say she was sorry out loud. Still, I love her character, and will continue to defend her. She did make some major mistakes this season, but it was all with the best of intentions, and I'm sure it'll lead her to become an even stronger and more resolved character throughout the course of Season 9.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

So, it is yes then (yes you appreciate she's alive);) :)

PS: When it comes your review? (I need laughs to overcome the episode...)

[SVrnFAN]

IA. Personally I thought when she said "I know who is responsible for Jimmy's death, I was here" that she's actually blaming herself. I can see why you don't see it that way. Perhaps they'll be more clear on this in S9 -- I'll be disappointed if they don't.

As for the police -- SV fanwanked that so many times I see no difference in this "brush with the law" then the last 82 times it has happened. Clark and Lois saw her as a hostage, no reason to think the police didn't see it that way as well.

ETA:
As Clark said in Injustice, it seems like lying to protect the ones you love (in this case Chloe was protecting Clark) was the theme of the season. Clark nodded his head at the end of Beast when Chloe apologized for lying and said she did it because she knew he would stop her from sacrificing herself. Clark understands what she did and why IMO.

She knew he' regret his own actions and said that was her motive-- I believe her. She has a PhD in Clark-guilt. He said it both in Injustice & Doomsday. He really wanted to try and save Davis and the PZ was the "easy way out". Clark agreed with Chloe's actions. That's enough for me.

Common theme on Smallville. Certainly Clark has done it a gazillion times. After all she's been thru with Clark, why doesn't she have a right to try and fix something? I don't see her as a minion so I think she had a right to try and solve the problem and do what she thinks was the best solution. Davis WAS being controlled (or at least she thought so) by her presence. She had every reason to believe she could save Clark and Davis both.

Clark jeopardized everyone's life to save Chloe in Legion and Davis in the last few episodes. How many times in the comics/movies did Clark put eveyone's life in jeopardy to save Lois or Jimmy? What was that whole spin the earth backwards manuever? I think it's a pretty standard "fare" in Superman and other shows to go to extremes to save someone's life.


Honestly, I sense a double-standard here. Insert your favorite character's name in the role of Chloe and see if you would feel the same. We've seen all the good guys take risks and try to save the situation on their own many many times. If you like the character it's "courageous", if not "they have no right"?

Great Post! ITA! Can not say anymore because you said it all! :D

[superkgirl]

I have mixed feelings about it, a couple seasons ago, maybe even last season I would have said yes, no doubt about it! But honestly I hate what they've done with her character this year.....especially last night with the whole hero talk stuff it honestly made me sick to my stomach, I think Chloe is becoming to much of a focus in this show, I thought this show was supposed to be about Clark and yet it seems like Chloe is always giving him advice on stuff, for instance a double identity, though Clark promptly shot down the idea, as always, because he doesn't hardly ever take anyones advice, (atleast when it matters) but still it just bugged me that they had Chloe introduce the idea, and I won't even start in on Chlimmy or Chlavis.....

[lm1212]

i didn't want her to die, but, better her than Jimmy or Davis. hell....better her than anyone.

[pizzahead2490]

i cant even express how i fell about chole with out getting banned. so to sum up... she should of died.

[Mahir]

I would have been happier if DD had ripped her arms and legs of then played kickball with her torso.

[Tartfox]

I feel bad for Jimmy most of all. I am not even sure why the writers had him and Chloe get together. The chemistry on camera was never there and I never felt as if she loved him as much as he loved her.

Jimmy always felt like the rebound guy- She could'n't get Clark so Jimmy comes along, and when she eventually feels comfy in that relationship Davis steps and she's attracted to him.

She has always put the needs of the men she's most attracted to before Jimmy's. Even when her and Jimmy are having alone time, if Clark needed to talk to her she'd drop everything with Jimmy to go see Clark. As Jimmy warned everyone that Davis was bad news, instead of being a supportive wife or at least more cautious/suspicious as she was back when she was a journalist, she refused to believe him.

She choose to run away with Davis and stop Clark from putting him into the Phantom Zone, and I'm sure part of the reason was because of her attraction to Davis. It is only when Jimmy hints that their relationship deserves a second chance does she quickly say she left with Davis to protect Clark, because she saw this as a means of redemption.

The Chloe character has been bothering me for quite some time. She should've died, but instead Jimmy's life is taken because of her actions.

[Reporter]

I'm very glad that Chloe survived.

[abbaspice1]

I never thought she was goint to die and I somehow imagined this scenario, everyone dying and she feeling responsible for the deaths, especially Clark's, but my biggest disappointment with this episode is that Chloe ended the hero and that she didn't take responsibility for the mess she created. She didn't apologize to Jimmy for trusting Davis over him (before she knew he was Doomy) and she didn't apologize to Clark for betraying him, from breaking into his fortress and closing the portal. She never said 'this is all my fault'. She stood in the 'watchtower' Jimmy presented to her (seriously, how did he manage to buy that place, I thought Jimmy was broke) and now she'll be the heroic woman that will bring back together the justice league and convince Clark that he's the superhero everyone needs. Next season she'll teach him how to fly.


You are RIGHT ON! And now, I wish that Chloe was DEAD!!!!

We are suppose to feel sorry for the woman who is responsible for all this crap? Not trusting Jimmy, not trusting Clark, thinking she is the savior for some monster (who was MADE to DESTROY EVERYTHING), using the Black k without Clark being around (like 3 JLA members and herself could stop the unstoppable)...I could go on and on and on.

I wish a house would fall from the sky and kill the witch. I hate Chloe. I don't think she can be redeemed from this mess.

She made her bed, she needs to lie in it.

[Tompouce]

I would be less angry than abbaspice1 as I don't like seeing characters dying but I have to say this "not guilty at all" Chloe at the end annoys me a lot. I hope we will see her with regrets, questions AND A CONSCIOUSNESS next season. I really don't understand how she can act like this at the end "I am glad Jimmy found the right place for me, I will be the watchtower. Let's built another story all together, Clark, what do you think ?" REALLY ???

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For the moment, I just need to stay a little far away for Chloe. If the next season, we don't see her a lot in the first epi, it would be great. I need to rest with her character aside lol

[abbaspice1]

I would be less angry than abbaspice1 as I don't like seeing characters dying but I have to say this "not guilty at all" Chloe at the end annoys me a lot. I hope we will see her with regrets, questions AND A CONSCIOUSNESS next season. I really don't understand how she can act like this at the end "I am glad Jimmy found the right place for me, I will be the watchtower. Let's built another story all together, Clark, what do you think ?" REALLY ???

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For the moment, I just need to stay a little far away for Chloe. If the next season, we don't see her a lot in the first epi, it would be great. I need to rest with her character aside lol

Tha is another thing that bugs me, her husband/ex-husband/man that she loves is dead, and she has some(IMO a lot) responsibility for it. He died there, in a home that he was fixing for her, and all she can think of is using it as a headquarters for her new job (which she may not have)? She moved on from her grief and on to her life pretty quickly there.

I was so liking Chloe until the second half of this season. As long as she isn't in the first 5 episodes of season 9, maybe, just maybe she can appear on my TV scream withou me barfing. Maybe.

[Tompouce]

I see we agree, Abbaspice1, we need some space between Chloe and us, just to rest and breathe

[Smallville Vamp]

I'm disappointed she survived; even more disappointed she survived and didn't leave town for what ever reason, so now what? I'm going to be STUCK having to watch her character all throughout season 9 act as some sort of underqualified hero figure to the actual heroes. Think about all the painful eyerolls I'm going to have to experience everytime she offers up some of HER advice... OH JOY, If I actually make it past the first 3 episodes I'll be doing good!

[rebecavaldez]

I thought for sure that when they released the spoilers of two deaths that she would be one of them. I'm so glad she's not. She completes SMALLVILLE.

[Kryptochloe]

I would be less angry than abbaspice1 as I don't like seeing characters dying but I have to say this "not guilty at all" Chloe at the end annoys me a lot. I hope we will see her with regrets, questions AND A CONSCIOUSNESS next season. I really don't understand how she can act like this at the end "I am glad Jimmy found the right place for me, I will be the watchtower. Let's built another story all together, Clark, what do you think ?" REALLY ???

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For the moment, I just need to stay a little far away for Chloe. If the next season, we don't see her a lot in the first epi, it would be great. I need to rest with her character aside lol


Sorry, but I didn't see her smiling at the end.. I didn't see her planning Bahama's vacation to overcome what happened. She was sad and she feels bad about it. Why she didn't say anything about her guilts? I think we should ask the producers... they seemed to use all the screentime they had for this epi on stupid things and no on the good ones that should happen.

Im not saying I don't agree with you, I think it would be nice to watch her making an evaluation of all what happen and assuming her part of responsability.

And highly likeable that if we would had watched that on the last scene, some people would be anyway critizicing her for "stealing screentime":rolleyes:... Like I have said before, Chloe can't win. She always will be wrong at the eyes of some viewers (not saying this is you necessarily, but there's a lot of people who fits in this profile..):\.

[Chloe Bloome]

I don't really care either way. Would've been brave to have let her die but then again *ponders about Jimmy* they certainly went for a braver (and stupider) death for sure......

[Kid Collins]

I was right!! :D

Even though I wasn't happy with Chloe's storyline this season, I'm very glad that she's back for another season!

And I hope that she stays far away from obsessive, alien psychopaths, next season! More happy storylines for Chloe please!

[umm]

I am very happy she is alive.

Me too! I don't what it is with all these poeple, they are so angry and surprised when in fact, even Kelly Saunders hinted in a interview to Chloe's survival, by saying that she went through alot in this current season and that her troubles won't be over in seasno 9! I mean, can you get more obvious! And for the first and last time Chloe isn't the new Lana! Yes she has made mistakes, but at least she did it with good intentions! I mean in stead of acting so angry one should rather give the writers a chance to put the character back on the right track! For god's sake, the character of Chloe had one lousy season, Lana had eight of them, so how can anyone compare these two!

[Spirit Detective]

I don't appreciate it. She killed Jimmy and Davis.

[AgentChaos]

I don't appreciate it. She killed Jimmy and Davis.

No, she didn't. They killed each other.

[Spirit Detective]

Not according to buddytv

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/smallville/smallvilles-chloe-sullivan-man-28717.aspx

[closertohome]

I'm glad Chloe survived. I like her, don't necessarily like some of the things she did this season, but I still like her.

[Chlollie]

Not according to buddytv

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/smallville/smallvilles-chloe-sullivan-man-28717.aspx

That's one persons option. The person that wrote it. I am glad Chloe is alive.

[RedKRules]

I am glad she lived, although I didn´t like her on this particular episode, she was so OOC ... dang actually everyone was OOC except for Lois and Tess ......

[Serynarpc]

Chloe is alive. Chloe is alive. Chloe is alive.
She may be miserable, friendless and alone, but she is alive. While I had *many* problems with her shtick in this episode, I am simply thrilled that she is alive. Perhaps she handled the 'WTF, Jimmy can't die, he's CANON' by giving his camera to his little brother. Perhaps his little brother shall take on Jimmy's name and blaze the path of glory...

However, I will admit I cried like a little girl when Jimmy reconciled with Chloe, when he was wounded and when he saved Chloe. You fought the good fight right to the end, Jimmy. Even bad ass vigilantes weep for you.

[darkraya]

im really glad that shes alive, but my god, i hope that she gets better storylines next season!

[LilyP]

They better stop writing her like Lana in S9!

[friendsita]

Absolutely yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was the best part of Thrusday.

[Pitbull On A Pantleg]

It's hard to appreciate something that's been shoved down my throat for a whole season. Chloe was shoehorned into practically every episode this season, with her Brainiac infection (several episodes featuring), memory loss (whole episode devoted), Brainiac reinfection (whole episode devoted), had an episode devoted to her "epiphany", using up one of Erica's episodes in the process, and then an entire arc where she hid and harbored the monster that attacked her and Jimmy's wedding, killing people and putting her husband in the hospital. She also went so far as to take the monster's side against her husband, her best friend, and the entire Justice League, resulting in more deaths. And the absolute kicker? Jimmy, in his dying moments, saved her life, and she couldn't even bother to squeeze out a tear.

No, I have no appreciation for Chloe being alive. Not when facing the very real possibility of having her again shoved front and center over characters that really matter.

[Violet-Shadow]

Hm...well, I was promised that the finale would align with the mythos so Chloe being alive, still, after EIGHT years, was very disappointing. I don't dislike Chloe as a character, for the most part, but she is not part of the mythos and I'm becoming more and more confused as to how they are going to explain her existence (or future lack of it). It will be some sort of retcon, I'm sure. :rolleyes: I guess I should just accept that this story is NOTHING like the Superman story I've known since I was young. Also, it's hard to appreciate that Chloe's alive when tptb are making this show all about her. She is the superhero of the show. Not Clark. And for a show that claims to be about a young Superman, that's just plain wrong.

[Tatiana]

Well that article is right in certain things, I am glad she is alive though, I disagree Clark told her it was his connection to HER that was making him weak. That's not what he said at all and I am intrigued to see what they will do with him next season, as for her...yes she needs to let Clark go

[Serynarpc]

darkraya, I'm with you on that on. I liked the Davis and Brainiac storyline, but I feel the Brainiac was topped too close to her 'meteor power'. I mean, we're still not sure if she got her powers back. Perhaps the writers could just follow through with one story line- like going into who was behind the wheel for the Chloaic killing, say if she has her power back and follow through with her mourning Jimmy. Perhaps cover the 'Watchtower' angle.

I don't understand you're problem with the fact that Chloe's alive, Violet-Shadow. The writers certainly haven't done a very good job of sticking to the mythos. They 'killed Lex', ruined Lana by giving her a super powered Krypton suit and to tell you the truth, if they'd killed Chloe they would have shot one of the good things SV has going for it.

[Violet-Shadow]

I don't understand you're problem with the fact that Chloe's alive, Violet-Shadow. The writers certainly haven't done a very good job of sticking to the mythos. They 'killed Lex', ruined Lana by giving her a super powered Krypton suit and to tell you the truth, if they'd killed Chloe they would have shot one of the good things SV has going for it.

I'm not the only one who isn't happy about Chloe surviving the finale. I don't think Chloe is one of the only good things SV has going for it all. I'd say that Clark is, but they continually give Chloe the main plots, pushing Clark to the sidelines. I'm sorry that you don't understand my problem but I do. You don't have to.

[samanthalyn720]

I'm not the only one who isn't happy about Chloe surviving the finale. I don't think Chloe is one of the only good things SV has going for it all. I'd say that Clark is, but they continually give Chloe the main plots, pushing Clark to the sidelines. I'm sorry that you don't understand my problem but I do. You don't have to.

I think it's pretty obvious that Chloe has a large following considering she's been on since day 1, so I don't see why Chloe shouldn't be a major part of storylines. And I can't think of a single show on TV that has one character playing a starring role in every storyline, that would be completely dull and not fair to the viewers who watch for other characters as well.

[Serynarpc]

I'm not the only one who isn't happy about Chloe surviving the finale. I don't think Chloe is one of the only good things SV has going for it all. I'd say that Clark is, but they continually give Chloe the main plots, pushing Clark to the sidelines. I'm sorry that you don't understand my problem but I do. You don't have to.

You're right, I don't have to understand it but I'd like to hear you out. I admit, I found Lana annoying because of how much attention she always received. Every other episode, she had a new stalker or a new crisis.

I truly hope that Chloe isn't turned into that. I personally feel that Chloe has had her due for being in the show for 7 seasons. Lois recently came on and had several episodes dedicated for her, even Tess Mercer and Oliver had a few. I don't think its unreasonable to flesh out those involved with Clark to see why the people make the decisions that they do.

[ginevrakent]

I truly hope that Chloe isn't turned into that. I personally feel that Chloe has had her due for being in the show for 7 seasons. Lois recently came on and had several episodes dedicated for her, even Tess Mercer and Oliver had a few. I don't think its unreasonable to flesh out those involved with Clark to see why the people make the decisions that they do.

I agree that supporting characters deserve to have some time devoted to developing their characters. My problem is that Lois has been on the show for 5 years now and the only episodes that have truly been about her was Lucy and maybe Stiletto. You might also say that Recruit, Sneeze, Prototype, and Siren were somewhat Lois-centric. I think Lois is long past due for some serious attention to her character development.

[Violet-Shadow]

You're right, I don't have to understand it but I'd like to hear you out. I admit, I found Lana annoying because of how much attention she always received. Every other episode, she had a new stalker or a new crisis.

I truly hope that Chloe isn't turned into that. I personally feel that Chloe has had her due for being in the show for 7 seasons. Lois recently came on and had several episodes dedicated for her, even Tess Mercer and Oliver had a few. I don't think its unreasonable to flesh out those involved with Clark to see why the people make the decisions that they do.

I'm sorry about that response, I was being defensive, wrongly so. I was mostly disappointed because I really believed that the mythos would be aligning. To see Chloe survive a "mythos align" doesn't make any sense to me.

Chloe can have episodes dedicated to her but she has, increasingly so, become THE main character, supplanting Clark, IMO. She didn't just have a few centric episodes but she had a centric season, where Clark was pushed to the side, again IMO. The finale painted her as the hero of the show.

[Serynarpc]

'I agree that supporting characters deserve to have some time devoted to developing their characters. My problem is that Lois has been on the show for 5 years now and the only episodes that have truly been about her was Lucy and maybe Stiletto. You might also say that Recruit, Sneeze, Prototype, and Siren were somewhat Lois-centric. I think Lois is long past due for some serious attention to her character development.'

Yes, I think it would be good to get off Chloe for a bit. For all of the Chloe centric episodes, they certainly hadvne't done ehr much good. What sort of episodes would you be interested in for Lois?


'I'm sorry about that response, I was being defensive, wrongly so. I was mostly disappointed because I really believed that the mythos would be aligning. To see Chloe survive a "mythos align" doesn't make any sense to me.

Chloe can have episodes dedicated to her but she has, increasingly so, become THE main character, supplanting Clark, IMO. She didn't just have a few centric episodes but she had a centric season, where Clark was pushed to the side, again IMO. The finale painted her as the hero of the show.'

Don't worry about it, I'm still rewatching the Chloe -Clark scene and I'm simply confused. I always thought that it was highlighting Clark's letter- that ordinary people could become heroes- people like Oliver, Chloe, Lois, Jimmy.

[ginevrakent]

Yes, I think it would be good to get off Chloe for a bit. For all of the Chloe centric episodes, they certainly hadvne't done ehr much good. What sort of episodes would you be interested in for Lois?

I really need to go to bed, but I would love to see Lois have a season long arc devoted to her development as a journalist. For example, next year Lois could take down Intergang or be the only reporter to uncover the fact that Lex Luthor is still alive. I would also like more attention paid to Lois's family. In particular, it would be great to see Chlo-Lo revived for real and to see a flashback episode showing us the weeks surrounding the death of Lois's mother. To see Lois have an honest conversation with her father, The General, about where they've been and how proud his is of his little Lo would be wonderful. I suppose it would be a little bit like how Progeny was for Chloe. That's it for now. Hope that helped:)

[prodigykane]

nope

[Reporter]

Sorry, but I didn't see her smiling at the end.. I didn't see her planning Bahama's vacation to overcome what happened. She was sad and she feels bad about it.

Exactly. And I think her planning it to be Watchtower was in memory of Jimmy. She didn't want to walk away from it like Clark suggested. She wanted it to be a place that could do some real good, something Jimmy would approve of, IMO.

Besides, the person responsible for Jimmy's death is Davis.

[Kneel before Zod]

Die, Chloe, DIE!!!
I'm through with Chloe. Her character has run it's course, and I think it's time to move on. Chloe needs to go. Maybe it will make all those annoying "Chlois" theorists give up.

[mistigirl]

I was mostly disappointed because I really believed that the mythos would be aligning. To see Chloe survive a "mythos align" doesn't make any sense to me.

Chloe can have episodes dedicated to her but she has, increasingly so, become THE main character, supplanting Clark, IMO. She didn't just have a few centric episodes but she had a centric season, where Clark was pushed to the side, again IMO. The finale painted her as the hero of the show.

[...]

Also, it's hard to appreciate that Chloe's alive when tptb are making this show all about her. She is the superhero of the show. Not Clark. And for a show that claims to be about a young Superman, that's just plain wrong.


It's hard to appreciate something that's been shoved down my throat for a whole season. Chloe was shoehorned into practically every episode this season, with her Brainiac infection (several episodes featuring), memory loss (whole episode devoted), Brainiac reinfection (whole episode devoted), had an episode devoted to her "epiphany", using up one of Erica's episodes in the process, and then an entire arc where she hid and harbored the monster that attacked her and Jimmy's wedding, killing people and putting her husband in the hospital. She also went so far as to take the monster's side against her husband, her best friend, and the entire Justice League, resulting in more deaths. And the absolute kicker? Jimmy, in his dying moments, saved her life, and she couldn't even bother to squeeze out a tear.

No, I have no appreciation for Chloe being alive. Not when facing the very real possibility of having her again shoved front and center over characters that really matter.

Great posts guys! My thoughts exactly.



I think it's pretty obvious that Chloe has a large following considering she's been on since day 1, so I don't see why Chloe shouldn't be a major part of storylines. And I can't think of a single show on TV that has one character playing a starring role in every storyline, that would be completely dull and not fair to the viewers who watch for other characters as well.

Then why do they do that on Smallville... to the protagonist (main character), no less (i.e. Clark)?

Though I appreciate people needing variety in their shows this is at its core a story about Superman in the making. Whatever goes around should only serve one thing and one thing only, Clark's story. This is the reason why (the majority of) people tune in. This is also why Clark is always there even for a 5 mns stint (pre-TWdirecting episodes) - though I guess some might argue is to keep the pretense. I dare you to try and do an Abyss-like episode without Clark in it and see if anyone's interested (esp. if advertised as such properly).
In short, every single A-story should revolve around Clark. Especially if involving supporting characters.

The producers pretend they know it and throw around words like 'mythos alignment' and such, but if they did truly know what that means they would have started removing the biggest mythos "sticking sore thumb" out on the lot (so to speak), to follow their logic.

Short of that the very least they could do is make characters accountable for their wrong deeds. Lois was told off for faking an article and ended up with a mea culpa, admitting she played with fire and had Clark suffer the consequences.
Clark will take responsibility for everything, if you'd let him - and they do!

If the new set is any indication they'll surely use it to have her play Watchtower. No one will probably have Chloe feel guilty for what she's done (much like Lana never did) and she'll just go back to playing faithful, er, dutiful sidekick.
And sorry, but 'living with themselves' as a punishment is not what I have in mind, especially if they don't admit to doing anything wrong (which rarely happens when you think you're right and no one corrects you) and the only pain they feel is the 5 mns they're left alone to wallow in self-pity.
I say Chloe was built up to die in the season finale only getting the reprieve because of the renewal. I believe they should have gone ahead with the death because her survival gives the whole second half of the season the worse taste of being punk'd and missing out on Clark's story for *this*. On top of lied to, blatantly... repeatedly, by shameless liars who will shortly come up with new empty promises come Comic Con.

In short her being alive is what disappointed me the most in the finale. I don't mind (too much) the dirty twist with Jimmy, the lack of Lois time (expected with s9), DD fight (expected with budget)... The strict minimum I expected which fit and made sense in terms of justifying the minimal focus on Clark on the second half - and most obviously was not delivered - was the demise of Chloe.


Her being alive at the end spoiled my enjoyment of anything in the finale and didn't redeem the second half season in my eyes.

[petitemimi]

Of course Chloe is alive. I never doubted for a second that she would survived. Since S8, she has leading lady status and therefore, she's the new Lana so I expect that next season will see her as a victim, a martyr who sacrifices herself for Clark, and she will have a new talent/power and function (watchtower) on the show; and at least 2 guys will be in love with her, with a triangle on top of that. And let's not forget some cryptic clues will be thrown in there to keep Chlark fans going.

[wolverine316]

I am disappointed she survived because there is no longer a use for her. This season was about her which made it the worse season ever. So the writers are screwed. People will complain if she returns to being Clark's sidekick but then people like myself will complain if the story is about her and not Clark. Because lets face it Clark was a secondary character to her this season. If they had the balls to kill her off like they should have they wouldn't have to deal with it next season.

[wafflles87]

I think the main problem, this year more than ever was that Chloe was practically shoved down our throats.

Me: So, I want to see an episode about Clark.
Producers: Ok. It starts with Chloe being a hero, and she calls Clark for assistance.
Me: Uhm... I think you misunderstood. An episode about CLARK!
Producers: OH! Oh, Ok. Clark has this problem with a serial killer..
Me: Ah, better.
Producers: And since he can't figure it out even with all his superpowers, he goes to Chloe for help. Chloe pulls a miracle out of her a... computer and gives Clark the answer.
Me: ~sigh~ Ok. Forget that. So, what'you gonna do about Doomsday?
Producers: Make him fall for Chloe, of course.
Me: What about Clark?
Producers: Oh, Clark will eventually fall for Chloe as well ~idiotic grin~
Me: No, no, I meant... what? ~shakes head~ Anyway, I meant what about Doomsday in relation to Clark.
Producers: Oh. Right. That... well, I guess if you really want, we can have them meet a few times.
Me: You do know they're supposed to be mortal enemies. Literally. They're supposed to kill eachother!
Producers: Who, Clark and Chloe? But...
Me: NO!! Clark and Doomsday you fraking idiots! ~bangs head on table~

[melissan02]

Exactly. And I think her planning it to be Watchtower was in memory of Jimmy. She didn't want to walk away from it like Clark suggested. She wanted it to be a place that could do some real good, something Jimmy would approve of, IMO.

Besides, the person responsible for Jimmy's death is Davis.

What? So now she wants to be a teamplayer?:rolleyes:


Appreciate Chloe is alive?.....Nope--won't.

[wafflles87]

What? So now she wants to be a teamplayer?:rolleyes:

That chick is more unstable than a glass of lemonade on a cat's head.

[melissan02]

That chick is more unstable than a glass of lemonade on a cat's head.

:rotfl:

[Bizarrolover]

I think the main problem, this year more than ever was that Chloe was practically shoved down our throats.

Me: So, I want to see an episode about Clark.
Producers: Ok. It starts with Chloe being a hero, and she calls Clark for assistance.
Me: Uhm... I think you misunderstood. An episode about CLARK!
Producers: OH! Oh, Ok. Clark has this problem with a serial killer..
Me: Ah, better.
Producers: And since he can't figure it out even with all his superpowers, he goes to Chloe for help. Chloe pulls a miracle out of her a... computer and gives Clark the answer.
Me: ~sigh~ Ok. Forget that. So, what'you gonna do about Doomsday?
Producers: Make him fall for Chloe, of course.
Me: What about Clark?
Producers: Oh, Clark will eventually fall for Chloe as well ~idiotic grin~
Me: No, no, I meant... what? ~shakes head~ Anyway, I meant what about Doomsday in relation to Clark.
Producers: Oh. Right. That... well, I guess if you really want, we can have them meet a few times.
Me: You do know they're supposed to be mortal enemies. Literally. They're supposed to kill eachother!
Producers: Who, Clark and Chloe? But...
Me: NO!! Clark and Doomsday you fraking idiots! ~bangs head on table~

:lol: You know, I actually see that conversation taking place.

[Night_Hawk90]

she should have died in doomsday, just like she should have died in Covenant, im just sick of her character

[Serynarpc]

What's with all the Chloe hate? She's not unstable- she's conflicted and made bad choices. Every one on the show has.

Lois- the saint Lois- slept with her editor and made herself into a story.
Lana married her love's enemy to protect him (and slept with him, cause we had that horrible baby story line), killed her clone, faked her death and then came back just in time to steal the power suit. Now I'm wondering why Lana wasn't here to kill DD- or right, KK's out, but still...
Oliver- 'Killed Lex'. I'm sorry, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that the largest influence and enemy for Clark was killed with a bomb from one of the white hats. It just... doesn't compute.

Things are always messy, there's always something the writers do to say 'hey, this isn't making our fans scream enough! Lets make Jimmy an addict and Chloe a mental patient!'

I'm not condoning Chloe's actions- she's made a lot of bad calls, I've said that all along. All of this could have been avoided with some quality explaination to her BFF.

But you can't throw her under the bus because she doesn't make sense- she'd get stuck on Oliver, Lois, Lana and even at times Clark who get a dose of writer madness.

[umm]

First of all, for better or worse, like it or not, Chloe has been a core character in Smallville from day one, and thinking she would die, was just being in denial!!!
Secondly, she is nothing like Lana, so stop comparing her to her, cos she is her own person/character!
Thirdly, it's high time, we had two guys kill eachother over Chloe, meaning she deserves that kind of adoration just as much as Lana and Lois do, and has up to this season never experienced it!
Fourthly, what is stopping you all guys from regarding Chloe's actions objectivly, good and bad, is your hopes for Lois becoming the leading lady of Smallville, which will, rightly so, never happen until Chloe is present in Smallville, because Lois and Clark belong ON A ANOTHER SHOW; CALLED 'LOIS AND CLARK' ADVENTURES WE ALL WATHED IN THE 90TIES! And that is a good couple years in the future, so hold on to your seats!
And while you all never pleased people wait for Chloe to kick the bucket, as if she had killed your favorite puppy, you might actually give a girl a chance to reedem herself, or rather give the writers a chance to prove to you, that there is a place for Chloe in the Superman universe even if it may not have started so originally!
I mean for god sake, can you guys honestly imagine Smallville without Chloe after soo many years of being a part of it! Now that is a trully horrible way to go, and no one deserves that, no matter how falty the character may be! I mean even Lana was saved from that faith, whose crimes are certainly much worse than Chloe's, who objectivly speaking out of 8 seasons has only had one, I repeat one, bad season!
Ok. now I am done with my madwoman rant!!!

[TOMophilus]

Doomsday should have dismembered Chloe, Ollie, Dina and Bart. These traitors deserved it all. But no, Doomsday just knocks them out gently... Ridiculous... :\

[Selina]

First of all, for better or worse, like it or not, Chloe has been a core character in Smallville from day one, and thinking she would die, was just being in denial!!!

The core character is Clark and Clark only. The show is about him after all, not Chloe.


Secondly, she is nothing like Lana, so stop comparing her to her, cos she is her own person/character!

I agree with this. Although she has made so poor choices this season, I dont find her anything like Lana, who's character became deplorable during the later seasons imo. Chloe is still a likable character. However if people want to compare the characters, they are within thier right.


Thirdly, it's high time, we had two guys kill eachother over Chloe, meaning she deserves that kind of adoration just as much as Lana and Lois do, and has up to this season never experienced it!

This I don't get. It's not about adoration. Sure Chloe has had the short straw concerning men but that doesn't mean we need to see two guys die over her. I also think in order for Chloe to be adored, two men need to kill each other, is a awful statement to make. I wouldn't want see these actions over any female over the show. Not Chloe, not Lana, not Lois, not Tess. It comes across soap operish.


Fourthly, what is stopping you all guys from regarding Chloe's actions objectivly, good and bad, is your hopes for Lois becoming the leading lady of Smallville, whcih will rightly so never happen until Chloe is present in Smallville, because Lois and Clark belong ON A ANOTHER SHOW; CALLED LOIS AND CLARK ADVENTURES WE ALL WATHED IN THE 90TIES! And that is a good couple years in the future, so hold on to your seast!

It's not about Lois becoming leading lady. I don't even know why she's being bought up in all this. Lois is my favourate character, yet I have an appreciation for Chloe. My criticisms for Chloe's actions this season have absolutly no bearing on Lois not being leading lady. To be quite frank, I dont give a too hoots about who the leading lady is. AM can have it. Given the way the writers seem to tear down the leading lady, I'm actually pleased that ED is in the episode count that she it. It goes without saying that I would love to see ED in 22 episodes but I can live with it that she isn't for the reasons I've said.

[NinaDavis]

And while you all never pleased people wait for Chloe to kick the bucket, as if she had killed your favorite puppy, you might actually give a gril a chance to reedem herself, or rather give the writers a chance to prove to you that there is a place for Chloe in the Superman universe even if it may not have started so originally!

That's my problem, I don't care about Chloe! I care about Clark! I want Clark story progressing NOT Chloe! Clark, you know, the character who hasn't learn anything in 8 f*cking years!!

I want him making his own decisions, helping people and even writing articles for the Daily Planet.

/end rant

[umm]

This I don't get. It's not about adoration. Sure Chloe has had the short straw concerning men but that doesn't mean we need to see two guys die over her. I also think in order for Chloe to be adored, two men need to kill each other, is a awful statement to make. I wouldn't want see these actions over any female over the show. Not Chloe, not Lana, not Lois, not Tess. It comes across soap operish.

The fact that the two guys or at least Jimmy endet up dead is regreatable of course, but I was really using that occurance as a metaphor, for the fact that Chloe finaly was able to see what it feels to have two guys ib their own way fight for her, and her alone! And for once she feelt as Lana, Lois and Tess feel every day, which is regreatable, cos Chloe should have been made to feel that way from day one! Now, I am by no means suggesting that we revert back to the midle ages where two nights jousted for the hand of a lady, but you get the drift! Finaly this season has been about Chloe in that regard, finaly it was her with and active lovelife, where as for the past seven seasons we apparantly were meant to think that she is a dusty porcelain doll on a even more dusty shelf somewhere in the attic!

[LilyP]

she is nothing like Lana, so stop comparing her to her, cos she is her own person/character! Doing bad stuff while claiming to do it ALL for Clark is straight out of the Lana playbook. (Lana: I had to marry Lex. All for Clark! Then I had to leave Lex to die and torture Lionel: ALL for Clark! Chloe: I had to run away with the hottie villain: all for Clark! And through my hubris, innocent people died. All for Clark!) And having people apologize to Chloe for the mistakes she has made is pure Lana as well.

The Lois fans should be happy that Chloe survived because otherwise, Lois would get the martyred!leading lady role next year. Lois: I had to sleep with Zod. All for the RedBlueBlur! etc.

[ginevrakent]

What's with all the Chloe hate? She's not unstable- she's conflicted and made bad choices. Every one on the show has.

Lois- the saint Lois- slept with her editor and made herself into a story.
Lana married her love's enemy to protect him (and slept with him, cause we had that horrible baby story line), killed her clone, faked her death and then came back just in time to steal the power suit. Now I'm wondering why Lana wasn't here to kill DD- or right, KK's out, but still...
Oliver- 'Killed Lex'. I'm sorry, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that the largest influence and enemy for Clark was killed with a bomb from one of the white hats. It just... doesn't compute.

First of all, I don't think a single Lois fan would claim that Lois is a saint who does no wrong. Second, Lois makes mistakes (you've mentioned two of her worst) and she doesn't have the most pleasant personality, but can you honestly compare poor professional etiquette and an unpublished fake story to murder, theft, and bad choices that led to deaths of innocent people? Finally, as far as I can tell, Lois is one of the few characters on this show who acknowledges her flaws and mistakes.

[Kryptochloe]

First of all, I don't think a single Lois fan would claim that Lois is a saint who does no wrong. Second, Lois makes mistakes (you've mentioned two of her worst) and she doesn't have the most pleasant personality, but can you honestly compare poor professional etiquette and an unpublished fake story to murder, theft, and bad choices that led to deaths of innocent people? Finally, as far as I can tell, Lois is one of the few characters on this show who acknowledges her flaws and mistakes.


Well, I think you don't do this, but I have watched many people comparing the two girls, just to show Lois as an angel and Chloe as a demon. So, I think is fair that Chloe fans don't feel ok about that.

[Serynarpc]

'First of all, I don't think a single Lois fan would claim that Lois is a saint who does no wrong. Second, Lois makes mistakes (you've mentioned two of her worst) and she doesn't have the most pleasant personality, but can you honestly compare poor professional etiquette and an unpublished fake story to murder, theft, and bad choices that led to deaths of innocent people? Finally, as far as I can tell, Lois is one of the few characters on this show who acknowledges her flaws and mistakes.'

I'm glad to hear you say that Lois isn't a saint. Most of the posts I seem to read are painting her with that brush. I like Lois a great deal, but no one on this show is without faults.

I find it highly unfair to place the deaths that Davis caused at Chloe's feet. After all, she did stop the monster from emerging, clearly saving Davis life' and perhaps unknowns the night in the alley.

I do agree that running off with him and harboring him was a fools move. She should have just went to Clark and explained everything. If anything, this has shown that deceit and lying to your friends leads to horrible consequences.

'What do you think was going to happen' in 'Beast' clearly indicates that Chloe feels guilt. She knows what she is doing (harboring Davis, disposing of bodies for him, lying to JL and Clark) is wrong. Its unexcuseable. I won't argue that, I agree that it was wrong.

However, Chloe isn't responsible for Davis' actions- only Davis is. Clark could have immediately attempted to kill Davis/DD but he didn't- he felt the same hesitation and mercy that Chloe felt and tried to find another way to end DD. It's humane to not want to kill someone.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Doing bad stuff while claiming to do it ALL for Clark is straight out of the Lana playbook. (Lana: I had to marry Lex. All for Clark! Then I had to leave Lex to die and torture Lionel: ALL for Clark! Chloe: I had to run away with the hottie villain: all for Clark! And through my hubris, innocent people died. All for Clark!) And having people apologize to Chloe for the mistakes she has made is pure Lana as well.

The Lois fans should be happy that Chloe survived because otherwise, Lois would get the martyred!leading lady role next year. Lois: I had to sleep with Zod. All for the RedBlueBlur! etc.

:rotfl:

[ginevrakent]

Well, I think you don't do this, but I have watched many people comparing the two girls, just to show Lois as an angel and Chloe as a demon. So, I think is fair that Chloe fans don't feel ok about that.

One of the reasons I do not engage in comparisons is because I think it is unnecessary and only inflames existing animosities, yet it is hard to swallow this notion that the contrasts between the two characters are highlighted merely to bash Chloe when there are five Chlois threads of 50,000 posts with about 25,000 of those posts almost exclusively bash Lois in order to "prove" that she is not the real Lois Lane.


I'm glad to hear you say that Lois isn't a saint. Most of the posts I seem to read are painting her with that brush. I like Lois a great deal, but no one on this show is without faults.

I would like to see evidence of that because from what I recall Lois fans not only acknowledged Lois's mistakes in Stiletto, for example, but praised her for admitting them and doing something to fix it. I also don't think you will find a single Lois fan who enjoyed the Grois relationship let alone defend it.


I find it highly unfair to place the deaths that Davis caused at Chloe's feet. After all, she did stop the monster from emerging, clearly saving Davis life' and perhaps unknowns the night in the alley.

I am glad that Chloe was able to prevent Davis from murdering some people. Still, I think it is important to acknowledge that Chloe's magic touch did not stop Neutron or AJ from getting killed. Her decision to run off with Davis in the hopes that her false love for him would keep him under control indefinitely instead of deferring to Clark's decision to send Davis to the Phantom Zone also led to the impratical solution of Black Kryptonite. The truth is that Chloe may have stopped the monster emerging a few times to prevent some deaths, but ultimately her foolish choices led to even more death and destruction. Does this make her evil and beyond redemption? No. It just means that she is far from a hero; and it would be nice if she could at least verbalize what she has learned from this experience. Both Lois and Clark have demonstrated an ability to be introspective, I would simply like to know how Chloe views her actions in light of their consequences.

[Mythosgirl]

Wow Libby, you just saved from posting....I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[Dominicus]

Doing bad stuff while claiming to do it ALL for Clark is straight out of the Lana playbook. (Lana: I had to marry Lex. All for Clark! Then I had to leave Lex to die and torture Lionel: ALL for Clark! Chloe: I had to run away with the hottie villain: all for Clark! And through my hubris, innocent people died. All for Clark!) And having people apologize to Chloe for the mistakes she has made is pure Lana as well.

The Lois fans should be happy that Chloe survived because otherwise, Lois would get the martyred!leading lady role next year. Lois: I had to sleep with Zod. All for the RedBlueBlur! etc.Oh wow this is sooo true!

[isagill chlark fan]

i am so glad chloe is alive i love her

[Joanna]

What's with all the Chloe hate? She's not unstable- she's conflicted and made bad choices. Every one on the show has.

It's not about her bad choices but about the fact that she hasn't acknowledged that she made mistakes let alone admit it or show remorse.

[tibbit78]

Right now, I don't care about Chloe being alive because they killed off Jimmy Olsen. If they have kept Aaron Ashmore on the show, then I would have been happy about her being alive.

I'm too depressed about Aaron Ashmore/Jimmy Olsen to care about Chloe/Allison Mack.

[princessdiana]

I don't mind Chloe, but Superman does not need a Robin. Superman does not need a side-kick. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that Jimmy can't be 10 years older, but Superman can have a sidekick, someone else who guides him besides Ma and Pa Kent and Jor-el

[justme_007]

I love Chloe. =)

[hero`s passion]

I love Chloe. =)

who doesn`t?:))))))) I`m glad that she stays for season 9 it will make some ratings for sure, but I hope they won`t make her storyline so dramatic as this season...I want more light in SV:))))

[wafflles87]

Doing bad stuff while claiming to do it ALL for Clark is straight out of the Lana playbook. (Lana: I had to marry Lex. All for Clark! Then I had to leave Lex to die and torture Lionel: ALL for Clark! Chloe: I had to run away with the hottie villain: all for Clark! And through my hubris, innocent people died. All for Clark!) And having people apologize to Chloe for the mistakes she has made is pure Lana as well.

The Lois fans should be happy that Chloe survived because otherwise, Lois would get the martyred!leading lady role next year. Lois: I had to sleep with Zod. All for the RedBlueBlur! etc.

Sadly, this is correct. Apparently leading lady status brings with it unnecessary drama and the slow decrease of one's capacity for any rational thought.

[Welling_is_pretty]

I, for one, am thrilled that Chloe is still alive. I love Allison and her character.

So yeah, at the end I had a "hey, Chloe lives!" moment.

[haydenclaireheroes]

some people take greatfullness for advantage. People do not recongnize when things go right and what happened good but concentrate on the things that went bad.

[Kryptochloe]

One of the reasons I do not engage in comparisons is because I think it is unnecessary and only inflames existing animosities, yet it is hard to swallow this notion that the contrasts between the two characters are highlighted merely to bash Chloe when there are five Chlois threads of 50,000 posts with about 25,000 of those posts almost exclusively bash Lois in order to "prove" that she is not the real Lois Lane.


That's why I don't like the bashing of Lois character neither. I don't even like Lana's bashing. I think we can express our POV's or disagree with others without throw "She deserves to die", "she an stupid" lines.

I don't understand why you think is hard to swallow. I was refering to some Lois fans or Chloe haters who do that just to "prove" their point about Chloe being "the worst human being". I know it happens the same with Lois. But I actually think that the poor one who has win this awful price "the most bashed character" is Lana...

At the end what Im trying to say is this would be a much more nice place if people just could avoid that kind of posts.

With that said... I still love my Chloe as always.

[ginevrakent]

I don't understand why you think is hard to swallow. I was refering to some Lois fans or Chloe haters who do that just to "prove" their point about Chloe being "the worst human being". I know it happens the same with Lois. But I actually think that the poor one who has win this awful price "the most bashed character" is Lana...

I agree that Lana is very often the go to girl for criticism. I don't like it when any character is unjustly criticized, but I do think it is important to try to be objective when assessing the good/bad aspects of a character. What I particularly took issue with is this idea that Lois fans bash Chloe simply to make Lois look good in comparison. It is possible to not like a character without an ulterior motive. It is frustrating that any person who questions Chloe's actions is automatically labelled a hater who is likely driven to such hate due to their blind allegiance to a ship or character.

So, I guess what I am trying to say is that I empathize with the frustration and sadness you feel when Chloe is bashed because I have felt the same way when I see Lois being called stupid, slutty, b*****, lazy, worthless, insensitive, and a poor imitation whose only purpose is to serve as her cousin's future pen name.


At the end what Im trying to say is this would be a much more nice place if people just could avoid that kind of posts.

Agreed:)

[All about Clark]

I always liked Chloe but not lately, however, I don't think that means she should die.

My perspective is that the story would have served better if Davis killed Chloe instead of Jimmy because she betrayed him. Jimmy did not. It just didn't fit and it is clear TPTB made this a last minute change. It should have been Davis kills Chloe, and Jimmy kills Davis. I think more fans were outraged by the loss of Jimmy because Jimmy expected to be around whereas Chloe's death was already fortold by Rokk, so there wouldn't be any surprise there.

So even thought I like Chloe, she needed to be the one to die.

I also think TPTB had a problem with killing Chloe this soon. Her sidekick status is still needed if only a little, and Clark clearly doesn't trust Oliver enough now to go to him for conversations about what is needed. I think TPTB wrote themselves into a box and the outcome clearly shows the mess they made IMO.

[AgentChaos]

I agree that Lana is very often the go to girl for criticism. I don't like it when any character is unjustly criticized, but I do think it is important to try to be objective when assessing the good/bad aspects of a character. What I particularly took issue with is this idea that Lois fans bash Chloe simply to make Lois look good in comparison. It is possible to not like a character without an ulterior motive. It is frustrating that any person who questions Chloe's actions is automatically labelled a hater who is likely driven to such hate due to their blind allegiance to a ship or character.

So, I guess what I am trying to say is that I empathize with the frustration and sadness you feel when Chloe is bashed because I have felt the same way when I see Lois being called stupid, slutty, b*****, lazy, worthless, insensitive, and a poor imitation whose only purpose is to serve as her cousin's future pen name.



Agreed:)

I don't have an issue with fair criticism of a character's actions. If we all agreed on every issue, there wouldn't be much to discuss, would there? What I have a problem with is the "Die, (insert character name)" posts. That IMO crosses the line into bashing territory.

[ginevrakent]

I don't have an issue with fair criticism of a character's actions. If we all agreed on every issue, there wouldn't be much to discuss, would there? What I have a problem with is the "Die, (insert character name)" posts. That IMO crosses the line into bashing territory.

I agree, which is why I loathe the Chlois theory. It's all about Lois dying and Chloe becoming her whether just in name or stealing her entire identity. That is why that theory is so offensive. I don't mean to bring it up here, because it has its own place and it's controversial/off-topic, but I just wanted to express how hurt Lois fans like myself feel whenever it comes up. The same could be said of the Action Meta theory that is constantly being brought up as a sign that Lois will die any time some kind of line about firing a gun is uttered or Lois happens to wear blue.

I dislike posts that advocate for the death of any character. We may feel that way privately, but in consideration of others' feelings, expressing those desires could either be kept to oneself or at least shared in as considerate a manner as possible; since ultimately it is everyone's right to hate a character and wish them ill.

[Fish1941]

I'm disappointed that she has survived. Chloe has never been a part of the SUPERMAN mythos. And now that the show is moving beyond Clark's teenage years, it's time to get rid of her. She is the last remant of his childhood in Smallville. She needs to be scragged or simply send her on her way.

[Animation]

I wish Chloe had died. She was a total traitor in the second half of the season, especially to "Jimmy." Her death would be the only thing that could have soothed the Jimmy retcon crap for me. Dont get me wrong, Chloe was my second fave character on the show since the beginning (after Clark) but season 8 turned that around entirely.

[Kryptochloe]

What I particularly took issue with is this idea that Lois fans bash Chloe simply to make Lois look good in comparison. It is possible to not like a character without an ulterior motive. It is frustrating that any person who questions Chloe's actions is automatically labelled a hater who is likely driven to such hate due to their blind allegiance to a ship or character.


Absolutely agree.
What you said in your post is not what I said in mine. It looks like you didn't understand me. Of course there are that kind of people (who just dislike Chloe, or who don't agree with her actions), I know that, Im not that biased. So no, I don't just "automatically label like a hater to any person who question Chloe's actions". But Chloe haters DO exist (just like Lois haters, Lana haters, etc) and you know that. I know Im sure of that.

Sorry to rest of the people, cause this is not the issue of this thread. I won't say nothing more.

[ginevrakent]

Absolutely agree.
What you said in your post is not what I said in mine. It looks like you didn't understand me. Of course there are that kind of people (who just dislike Chloe, or who don't agree with her actions), I know that, Im not that biased. So no, I don't just "automatically label like a hater to any person who question Chloe's actions". But Chloe haters DO exist (just like Lois haters, Lana haters, etc) and you know that. I know Im sure of that.

Sorry to rest of the people, cause this is not the issue of this thread. I won't say nothing more.

Kryptochloe, I understood your point perfectly. I hope you did not think I was implying that you bash Lois. I was trying to explain that sometimes criticizing a character, like Chloe, has nothing to do with one's feelings about other characters because you previously claimed that Lois fans demonize Chloe in order to make Lois seem angelic in comparison. I also wanted to make it clear that Lois fans appreciate Lois's flaws, but do feel that her mistakes do not have the catastrophic consequences that others' mistakes have wrought (Davis, Oliver, Chloe). I am simply disagreeing with your perception that Lois fans bash Chloe or speculated about her death for no other reason than they are Lois fans. I understand that you acknowledge that most Lois fans do not fall in this category, but I still wanted to comment on the general perception that prejudice is a motive for character analysis.

I agree with you that haters of all kinds exist. I do not think you are one of them, which I truly appreciate. I wish there were more people out there like you. It has been great discussing this with you, and I suppose we can now shift the focus back to the original topic of this thread:)

[umm]

I don't mind Chloe, but Superman does not need a Robin. Superman does not need a side-kick. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that Jimmy can't be 10 years older, but Superman can have a sidekick, someone else who guides him besides Ma and Pa Kent and Jor-el


Why not? I mea Chloe certainly hasn't had the best season this season, but the one good thing about this whole storyarc is that the writers gave her her own storyarc and have actually managed to separate Chloe and Clark a bit and thus have enabled him to be more independant! Now if they continue that in season 9, the right way, I honestly can't see why Chloe shouldn't have her own place under the sun in the Superman universe! So what if she isn't an original character, things are meant to change not remain the same!

[KneelBefore_____]

Did I miss something? Did Chloe lose her ability to heal others? The end of the episode would have been the perfect time to use it. And _ _ _ _ _ knew about her ability and probably wondered at the last moment of life why she wasn't using it.

[AgentChaos]

Did I miss something? Did Chloe lose her ability to heal others? The end of the episode would have been the perfect time to use it. And _ _ _ _ _ knew about her ability and probably wondered at the last moment of life why she wasn't using it.

According to TPTB, her healing power is gone. When Brainiac attacked her in Arctic, she used up all her power fending off his attack. Which is crap IMO. I was always under the impression that meteor powers couldn't be used up.

[boogiebear]

Chloe is the Watchtower and the Watchtower is Chloe. Even if she is gone from the show, she will still be the Watchtower now.
If you would like her off the show, that would not be hard. She would have to be totally invested to be the Watchtower information broker. Killing her off, would not make any sense. who would then be the Watchtower????
They got rid of Pete, which did not involve killing him.