Who's responsible for Jimmy's death???????

[Alexander III]

Well of coz Davis killed him but...

......... Chloe is the one to BLAME!! :mad: (as u can tell they were too busy making out without noticing there's a super "jealous" dude laying on the ground next to them ....watching :lol::rotfl:, but Chloe, it was you who made Davis killed Jimmy!!)

And Clark, will u stop blaming urself for Jimmy's death, its Chloe's fault, not yours Clark!

[amandaa125]

I love chloe but whenever i try to say any of this is someone elses fault i always end up thinking, "oh wait a minute all of this could have been prevented if chloe would have just let clark throw davis into the PZ"

[LorelaiG]

Chloe definetly

But wht surprise everybody ended kissing her butt and she is the martyr....LANA 2.0

[rebecavaldez]

Davis!
Haha, why are you bring Shelby into this!
lol

[samanthalyn720]

Yeah, b/c Chloe knew Davis would go nuts and kill Jimmy... please!

I would say the guy who rammed a pipe in Jimmy is the one responsible.

[VisionGirl]

chloe. chloe. and chloe.

[zorasuperman]

wat did shelby ever do to you?????
huh??
LOL

[Ella]

chloe. chloe. and chloe.

Producers. Producers. Producers.


Thanks for the retcon, guys. :rolleyes:

[Alexander III]

Davis!
Haha, why are you bring Shelby into this!
lol

Shelby's being left out for awhile so I might as well bring him into the topic,

shelby: *bark* *bark* remember me?

[Lauren_17]

Davis is responsible. I think Chloe thought Davis would be ok once Doomsday left him.

[davidbrenton]

Human flaws in emotional intelligence...the very thing Clark Kent has been lacking for the whole series. This FINALLY puts an end to it...he becomes emotionally intelligent by separating himself from humans, and constantly doing exactly what he said...putting them on a pedastool (Cough...Lana....Cough).

[Ella]

wat did shelby ever do to you?????
huh??
LOL

Apparently he killed Jimmy. Or is it she now? :confused::lol:

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Chloe, he was sacrificed for her.

Tell me again why this worthless waste of screentime is still around?



But wht surprise everybody ended kissing her butt and she is the martyr....LANA 2.0

Of course, I'm not surprised by this, she rarely ever gets called on her crap anymore. She used too at one time, but now she basically walks on water :gag:

[Theshadow129x]

it was a culmination of everyones decisions not just one person

[thehenry89]

chloe and davis are equally responsible for Jimmy's death.

[LoveHurts38]

Right now Chloe.

[Viking415]

As far as who is RESPONSIBLE, it's clearly Davis. Responsibility belongs to the individual who did the action, which happens to be Davis. Chloe is responsible for Davis being alive/not in the Phantom Zone/whatever, but she is not responsible for Jimmy being dead.

[NinaDavis]

Chloe

[Dyanara]

Yeah, b/c Chloe knew Davis would go nuts and kill Jimmy... please!

I would say the guy who rammed a pipe in Jimmy is the one responsible.

Now now Samantha you are forgetting Chloe is a psychic and knows everything about everybody and every event.
Davis is to blame no one else. Not Clark, not Chloe, I am proud of their actions(leading up to Clarks poopoo of humanity) For me the point of the end of this season and Davis v Doomsday is that you can never deal in absolutes or it will lead you down a path you dont want to go. You could never assume with Davis nor should you decide something as definite as murder when all you have is assumptions.

[Faby]

Everyone is responsible except Lois! She still oblivious to mostly everything, lost in time traveling....I still can't process the episode well, but anyways......

[Clark_smallville4ever]

Defiantly Davis's fault, last time i checked i saw Davis stabbing jimmy in the back with a metal pole

[ThunderMonkey]

The guy that killed him is to blame.

Chloe and Clark were trying to save what they thought was a "person" in Davis. Turns out he's just as screwed up as the monster he tried to deny. And without the Beast in him, he has no one to blame but his own twisted soul.

[xrayvision]

Davis & Chloe. Davis because he killed him and Chloe because she prevented Clark from sending him to the Phantom Zone in Beast. I knew Davis was an evil scumbag and should have been banished.

[Bizarrolover]

Chloe. Davis and Doomsday are one entity, the proof is that when they were separated, Davis was a monster just like Doomy. The Phantom Zone was the right place to send him but she prevented it. All the deaths that happened after that incident are her responsibility.

[warriorrenegade]

Clark of course, weren't you watching? The sun rising and setting is his fault...(my best Capt. Kirk)...CLAAARRRRKKKKK!!!!

[Theshadow129x]

Davis & Chloe. Davis because he killed him and Chloe because she prevented Clark from sending him to the Phantom Zone in Beast. I knew Davis was an evil scumbag and should have been banished.

lmao my thoughts exactly when he first showed up on the show

[BadToad]

Lots of blame to go around, I'd say.

But ultimately, Davis.

Still, this show is sending off some messed up mixed messages, and casting just about everyone in shadows.

[chlo-el]

It's Chloe's, Davis' Jimmy's and Zod's fault.

Chloe: Because she made Davis beleive she was in love him. And then made out with Jimmy in front of Davis. And told him what ever she was doing for Davis had nothing to do w/ her feelings for him.

Jimmy: Because he made out w/ Chloe infront of Davis.

Davis: Because he snapped and killed Jimmy.

Zod: For creating Davis from his murderous DNA.

The person who wasn't at fault was Clark. Clark it's not your fault in beleiving in people. Never stop beleiving in people Clark!!!!!!!

[ManOfSteel87]

Actually, if you go to the spoilers section there is an Ausiello Exclusive about the death and apparently DC didn't want JO to come into SV, especially being around the same age as Clark/Lois. So it was basically a DC decision to at some point reveal that Jimmy wasn't the real Jimmy. So, DC is to blame for Jimmy's death.

I blame DC and PS3!

[chlo-el]

Lots of blame to go around, I'd say.

But ultimately, Davis.

Still, this show is sending off some messed up mixed messages, and casting just about everyone in shadows.

Soooooo true.

[Forney2414]

Well of coz Davis killed him but...

......... Chloe is the one to BLAME!! :mad: (as u can tell they were too busy making out without noticing there's a super "jealous" dude laying on the ground next to them ....watching :lol::rotfl:, but Chloe, it was you who made Davis killed Jimmy!!)

And Clark, will u stop blaming urself for Jimmy's death, its Chloe's fault, not yours Clark!

If you really want to play it like that then you could say Oliver is to blame because he had him hack into Tess' computer. Or you could say Tess is to blame because she is "Evil."

Davis was a bad character from the start but i understand they weren't going to have a real Doomsday running around all season. But the person who somehow stabbed a person through the body with a pipe? Does anyone but me think that running a person through like that seemed a bit like a feat of strength? Not a spear but a pipe... anyhow... He did it blame the Crazy dude. He is going to be back as Zod so it won't matter.

[rehana/chole]

i go with davis chole i think belive once the beast n man were seperated he would be graetfull an leave her along like she said she just wanted too save him i guess he never realy love her either cause he was abt 2 killer her. in the end jimmy did prove he loved her no matter wat he basicaly died for her, clark left her wen she may need him the most or so they clam, i am looking forward too her been watchtower ( maybe thery will hook her up with ollli or bruce )my bad ... but i alway tought bruce wanye stared up justic leage an bulid the watch tower guess sv goning diffrent or maybe we get 2 see bruce wanye nex season..

[Darth Pipes]

I didn't like the fact that Davis turned out to be a murderer. It threw away all the character's development this season.

That being said, Chloe is definitely to blame. She helped to keep that monster alive.

[thehenry89]

It's Chloe's, Davis' Jimmy's and Zod's fault.

Chloe: Because she made Davis beleive she was in love him. And then made out with Jimmy in front of Davis. And told him what ever she was doing for Davis had nothing to do w/ her feelings for him.

Jimmy: Because he made out w/ Chloe infront of Davis.

Davis: Because he snapped and killed Jimmy.

Zod: For creating Davis from his murderous DNA.

The person who wasn't at fault was Clark. Clark it's not your fault in beleiving in people. Never stop beleiving in people Clark!!!!!!!

I disagree with it being Jimmy's fault, doesn't matter what he was doing it didn't give davis the right to take his life.

[Smalvil1]

Why was davis even at the watchtower? Why did Chloe lead him on? Why? Now Henry's dead. its chloes fault. Leading on a psychopathic serial killer. To quote davis "How did you think it was going to end?"

[Deana]

I didn't like the fact that Davis turned out to be a murderer. Did you miss Davis killing people to keep Doomsday at bay? Murdering and manipulating had become very natural to him.

[chlo-el]

I disagree with it being Jimmy's fault, doesn't matter what he was doing it didn't give davis the right to take his life.

No I didn't say it gave him the right but it led to Davis snapping and going crazy and killing Jimmy.

[Alicia Chipy]

Davis,but aided and abetted by Chloe's desire to redeem him at ANY cost.

[Kschreck]

How about these options:


-Writers
-Producers
-CW
-DC
-Dawn Ostroff
-Budget

[Pink Hurricane]

DAVIS is the one responsible for DAVIS killing Jimmy. Not Chloe. Not Clark. DAVIS.

[jpfort1957]

Now Chloe and Clark must live with the guilt!!!!!!!!!

[Sports72Xtrm]

Beauty and Clark saved the beast and now prince charming is dead:( Great Fairy tale ending.

[supervillenatural]

no davis made him self kill jimmy no one else is to blame.

[AgentChaos]

Davis is to blame for Jimmy's death, not Chloe, Clark, or anyone else.

[halvor311]

It was OBVIOUSLY SHELBY!!!!! COME ON!!!! lol excellent choice. But really, Davis is the one responsible. Blaming Chloe is like blaming the victim for being there or something. Chloe did what she could to keep Doomsday at bay. But when someone dies, it's the murderer's fault. I'm very disappointed in Davis though. Very shocking turn of events.

[BOUROUX]

Davis, not Chloe at all.
Lois is responsible but it's not her fault because she took the ring, and Clark was not able to send Doomsday in the futur.

[Ginx]

chloe and davis are equally responsible for Jimmy's death.

I agree. It's not one person's fault imo, it's on multiple people's heads. And not just Chloe/Davis either but a little bit of the blame falls on Clark as well.

[darkphoenix21]

Davis is the only one that put a pipe through Jimmy. He's to blame!!!

[SnowBird]

Chloe made many mistakes on her way to save Davis and it backfired. Others made mistakes as well but I believe Chloe was mainly responsible. You know Clark will take the blame but ultimately Chloe having good intentions that failed should still take most of the blame which she admitted.

[vikingjedi]

Davis is responsible. He killed him, not Chloe.

[Naomi]

How is Chloe more responsible than Davis, these results make no sense

[Krypto~Luan]

Davis, he was the one obssessed. HE had the pipe, he coulda have spoken like a Human being he was now made. But rather, it semed he learned nothing about NOT hurting chloe emotionally. Ten tried to hurt her. He went coo coo for coco puffs

But everyone knows about the Shelby, CHloe, Davis love triangle right?:p

[borednow]

100% Davis, he made the choice...

[Krypto~Luan]

100% Davis, he made the choice...

Yup. He was scarier human wasnt he?:eek:

[Bizarrolover]

I guess that when you try to split a genetically engeneered monster with black kryptonite you basically obtain two types of monsters, one better looking than the other one. And when you make this good looking genetically engeneered monster believe than you have feelings for him, you are creating false hopes on him. And when you confess to your ex husband, not ten feet away from the genetically engeneered monster, that you never loved the genetically engeneered monster and that you were indeed playing with said monster's feelings there are many chances that the monster will hear you and take revenge. It's a recipe for disaster and Chloe carefully chose and mixed all the ingredients. The result is 'Chop Jimmy'.

[SGuthrie27]

All the people on that list (save Shelby) are in some way responsible for Jimmy's fate, but I have to go with Davis on that poll, as he's the only one up there who actually IMPALED JIMMY AND MURDERED HIM! Let's blame Zod and Faora while we're at it, since they genetically engineered him in the first place.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Jawth]

Well, first and foremost it's Davis' fault for impaling him with a pipe. That said, if Chloe would have just let Clark toss him into the PZ, none of this would have happened.

[Krypto~Luan]

Well, first and foremost it's Davis' fault for impaling him with a pipe. That said, if Chloe would have just let Clark toss him into the PZ, none of this would have happened.

But its not like she saw it coming is it? I mean, we can blame lionel for abandoning Davis like that. we can blame Jor -el for John's death beacuse Jor el sent clark to the kents. I
dont think its fair to blame her for what she couldnt see. Or better yet. Balme clark. He's the one who undid time again, meaning someone had to die in the place of the other person from Infamous was it?there were many hands in play this season.

[Cogito17]

It's mostly Davis' fault. A little bit of Chloe's fault, because she had to know he wasn't exactly stable and she prevented Clark from getting him in the PZ (would have been the best result).

I don't think they should have had Clark take all the blame in the end however.

[jpfort1957]

Atleast Green Arrow did his BEST to stop the beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Krypto~Luan]

Atleast Green Arrow did his BEST to stop the beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they all didnt listen to reason... When a beast literally cant be killed, and you know it cant die the same way twice...you dont KILL IT SOME MORE. I wanted to yell at all of them lol.

I blame Doomsdays creators lol. Lets take it that far back :p

[rarebreed]

Shelby is just behind Clark on this... :lol:

[smallvillereporter27]

I think it's the guy who impaled him :lol:

But in all honesty, it was the the lack of communication between Ollie, Clark, and Chloe. All three of them acted like retards and didn't help each other! Now this has happened...

[Kryptochloe]

Tptb

[AndiGirl]

Yeah, b/c Chloe knew Davis would go nuts and kill Jimmy... please!

I would say the guy who rammed a pipe in Jimmy is the one responsible.

Ditto

[Lilah]

Yeah, b/c Chloe knew Davis would go nuts and kill Jimmy... please!

I would say the guy who rammed a pipe in Jimmy is the one responsible.

If she'd just let Clark do what he planned to in the first place the psycho with the pipe wouldn't have been able to do it.... So CHLOE is to blame for EVERYTHING.

[alienkinfolk]

I think they all didnt listen to reason... When a beast literally cant be killed, and you know it cant die the same way twice...you dont KILL IT SOME MORE. I wanted to yell at all of them lol.

I blame Doomsdays creators lol. Lets take it that far back :p

:lol:exactly.
Jimmy killed Jimmy, for turning his back on the man that took his wife. U just don't do that.

[Clois4eva89]

it's all Davis' faul he's the one who rammed the pipe through Jimmy. No one could've predicted that Davis would kill anyone without Doomsday.

[Kryptochloe]

TPTB and DC comics..

[Krypto~Luan]

:lol:exactly.
Jimmy killed Jimmy, for turning his back on the man that took his wife. U just don't do that.

Davis seemed to be laying down and listening alot, he did it twice. I thought he was unconsious the first time.

[DigitalKing]

Shelby, and here's why.

When Clark went back home to feed Shelby in that one episode (Identity?), he demonstrated his human compassion for the dog. This was at a time when he was attempting to sort out what was going on with lois, which had softened his heart and made him more receptive to kindness. And thus later, when he had to deal with Davis, the compassion that had built up in him from that point onward created a pattern which he used to deal with situations. As a result, it is Shelby's being a source of compassion that resulted in Jimmy's death.

That vile, sneering dog...

If she'd just let Clark do what he planned to in the first place the psycho with the pipe wouldn't have been able to do it.... So CHLOE is to blame for EVERYTHING.
A post like this seems like a joke post, but then again...

So just to clear up confusion, I was joking when I was ascribing Jimmy's death to Shelby. It is obviously the fault of the diabolus ex machina, whose name happens to be Davis in this medium.

[Krypto~Luan]

Shelby, and here's why.

When Clark went back home to feed Shelby in that one episode (Identity?), he demonstrated his human compassion for the dog. This was at a time when he was attempting to sort out what was going on with lois, which had softened his heart and made him more receptive to kindness. and thus later, when he had to deal with Davis, the compassion that had built up in him from that point onward created a pattern which he used to deal with situations. As a result, it is Shelby's being a source of compassion that resulted in Jimmy's death.

That vile, sneering dog...

Oh the horror! For shame! Grab your torches and pitch forks!

[melissan02]

Chloe. No attempt to convince me otherwise should be made.

[topping82]

None of the above.

Here are the true culprits:

ZOD, FAORA and BRAINIAC. WHY? Because they are the ones who programmed Davis to be a killer and to have no free will.

SO really, it is their fault. They are the true villains. And Jimmy, Chloe and Davis are all the victims. And all because of Zod, Faora and Brainiac's greed.

[Violet-Shadow]

Producers. Producers. Producers.


Thanks for the retcon, guys. :rolleyes:

ITA. They are are the only one's to be blamed for this.

[Meteror Freak]

I find it ubelieveable that Chloe, or anyone else for that matter, can be blamed for Jimmy's death. Davis was the one who put the pipe through Jimmy's back.

[Krypto~Luan]

Atleast i dont hae to listen to jimmy talk any more. Aaron ashmore, i dont think he can act. But it was a sad death. Almost morbid.

[LuthorKent90]

Davis was the one who killed him, he's responsible.

But Chloe takes some of the fault, because she didn't let Clark banish Davis to the phantom zone when he had the chance. :(

[The Dark Knight74]

Davis.

[chlavisbug]

chloe.
where has her intelligence gone?

[acciobrain101]

The writers.

[Clana4Life]

The writers.

Ditto.

[Spirit Detective]

Writers? Aaron Ashmore?

[xrayvision]

AA was great. I'm really going to miss him. There were episodes this season where his character was the only one I liked. I was so happy when I saw him seeing Clark use his powers and then infuriated after what they did to him.

[Kryptochloe]

Producers. It looks like AA didn't want to leave the show, but DC and TPTB prepare his ending...

[Kschreck]

I blame the budget on Jimmy's death.

[Kika]

Chloe.
Every thing that happen in smallville good, bad or regular is because of chloe.

NAH, I'm just kidding.

I don't know who has the fault, but I'm so glad, Jimmy is dead.

[Kryptochloe]

There's an interview to Aaron and there he explain the reasons...

[Exedore]

I blame the budget on Jimmy's death.

That and sheer stupidity on TPTB's part. Not necessarily in that order.

[xrayvision]

I blame lack of priorities for Jimmy's death. Between his death and this Watchtower set, it's obvious their priorities are all messed up & they want to turn this show from a show about Clark's journey to becoming Superman into one mainly about the JLA.

Having Jimmy in the show would be much smarter & cheaper than wasting all that money on a set they shouldn't be having anyway since this show should now focus on the core Superman characters like Jimmy, Clark & Lois, not the JLA.

[amalie]

Davis is to blame but I think several people have some responsibility for it

[Kschreck]

I blame lack of priorities for Jimmy's death. Between his death and this Watchtower set, it's obvious their priorities are all messed up & they want to turn this show from a show about Clark's journey to becoming Superman into one mainly about the JLA.

Having Jimmy in the show would be much smarter & cheaper than wasting all that money on a set they shouldn't be having anyway since this show should now focus on the core Superman characters like Jimmy, Clark & Lois, not the JLA.


They probably reached their limit in what they can do with Clark Kent and instead of simply ending the show, they are going to keep milking it since people are still watching it. So they decided to turn it into a totally different show. The Justice League sucks this year to. I think Lois has had more combat action this season then the entire Justice League has this year. :lol:

[xrayvision]

The only positive thing about season 7 was that it had only 1 appearance by them (Siren). I wish they would forget about the JLA on this show. There are so many things wrong with it now, but I think that is still one of the big ones. Chloe also has no more role on this show. Lois needed to become the female lead. Jimmy should have stayed but look what they did to him. Intergang should have been the villians next year, but now it seems like we're back to Zod.

The budget is ridiculous. How they could have considered bringing Doomsday as the villian if they knew the budget would be so low is beyond me. They could have gotten 2 good seasons out of Intergang. Season 8 should have been their rise and season 9 should have been the season where Clark does serious damage to the ranks of Intergang and end the show like that.

[shamville]

Blame rokk not chloe.

[borednow]

Look lets stop laying blame back before we hit the invention of the lead pipe... It was Davis' choice to stab him with the pipe.

[Mai4et0]

Davis of course! Why would Chloe be responsible ?

[kilroy107]

Davis was to blame...Chloe just forgot he was there...not liking Clark's decision to abandon his humanity with the quote "Clark Kent is dead"...does this mean we will see Kal-El? Zod is back...yay!

[Hippolyta]

I would say both Chloe and Davis. Davis, obviously, as being the one who rammed the pipe through him, but Chloe for a) thinking that running away with a monster was a sensible thing to do and b) for telling Jimmy while Davis was in the room that she only went with him for Clark. That was pretty stupid. When she was saying it I was going "NO! Davis can hear you!"

[Jawth]

Davis of course! Why would Chloe be responsible ?

When Chloe died, Rokk and the Legion knew who Jimmy was.

Chloe lives, and Jimmy dies. If she would have let Clark send Davis to the PZ where he belonged, Jimmy would still be alive and well.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Blame rokk not chloe.

Either this is sarcasm or you're a very confused individual.

[alexjones50]

davis is the responsible and no one else! no one could have predicted he'd turn evil like that, i didn't see it somig, chloe is blameless!

[Jor'el_Ted]

I say Davis cause he let his jealously get the better of him.

[SacredK]

Looking at the votes here, I'd say the greater tragedy is this.

[skugers]

Only Chloe. Her hands are soaked in blood, and not only Jimmy's...

[duskwillow]

Chloe.
If she didn't manipulate Clark out of sending the serial killer into the Phantom Zone everyone would have lived.
If she didn't manipulate Davis until he snapped after finding out the truth Jimmy would have been fine.
Davis is a guilty party. But we already knew he's unstable and capable of murder. It was Chloe who still protected him.
And it was Chloe who set all parts in motion, and is responsible for what went down in the finale.

[Dominicus]

davis is the responsible and no one else! no one could have predicted he'd turn evil like that, i didn't see it somig, chloe is blameless!I could, they clearly established this in Infamous when Davis smothered Linda, not to mention the intentional stalking murders at midnight to calm Dooms, which meant it was a mental stimulant and part of his genetic make-up. The hospital, drug inducing Jimmy, it was clear all along what type of aggressor Davis was.

They also showed how he reacted to being abandoned as a child, that rage that was embedded in him. He put everything into the idea, rather notion that Chloe loved him, and she did help to lead him onto that conclusion, running away with him, kissing and hugging him one moment, telling him sweet-nothings, doing everything to save him. He saw home with her. Then, light switched, Chloe not only dumps the guy but says she was only with Davis to protect Clark, right in front him then gets back with Jimmy in front of him, she was witn Davis at the time, makes her a cheater. Davis instantly reverted to that miserable, hopeless, lonely child abandoned/rejected by the Luthor's once more.

However, I still don't understand why he directed his initial rage on Jimmy, I can only assume it was to make Chloe suffer by killing him first, then her. Davis no doubt did the killing, but Chloe pulled that trigger, these affairs of the heart, passion.

[wafflles87]

Davis and Chloe share the blame on this one.

[amalie]

May I just add that PS1 are to blame. There was no reason to kill Jimmy, none at all yet they did it anyway.

[stenochick]

Davis is responsible for Jimmy's death. I have worked with foster kids and a lot of them end up in the criminal justice system. Although he is worth saving, Davis has major emotional issues and when he realized that Chloe did not love him, he killed Jimmy. It was an impulsive act of violence, a crime of passion.

[Jack-El49]

Now now Samantha you are forgetting Chloe is a psychic and knows everything about everybody and every event.
Davis is to blame no one else. Not Clark, not Chloe, I am proud of their actions(leading up to Clarks poopoo of humanity) For me the point of the end of this season and Davis v Doomsday is that you can never deal in absolutes or it will lead you down a path you dont want to go. You could never assume with Davis nor should you decide something as definite as murder when all you have is assumptions.

LOL. Well, Chloe is supposedly the smartest person in the series - far smarter than Clark because he has to go to her to get answers all the time and she openly feels obliged to tell him what he should do.

Davis is to blame and you are right - there are no absolutes. If you believe there are absolutes, you will experience an epic failure, which both Clark and Chloe experienced in this episode.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Davis... obviously...

[DiabeticDude202]

I can't believe you guys are blaming Chloe ... lol. She did what she thought would save Clark - how was she supposed to know that Davis would kill Jimmy. Chloe wasn't the run who ran a pole through his chest...I BLAME DAVIS grrrrrrrrr

[Super Maverick]

Clark refused to "take out" Davis.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Let's do the right thing and blame Clark, I'm sure he would want it that way. He can't wait for boulders to fall on the villain all the time. He wanted to save the human side of Davis but we find that even the human part of him was evil.

[nic25]

Davis and Chole,maybe a little Clark(maybe)

[Smallville Vamp]

Chloe.
If she didn't manipulate Clark out of sending the serial killer into the Phantom Zone everyone would have lived.
If she didn't manipulate Davis until he snapped after finding out the truth Jimmy would have been fine.
Davis is a guilty party. But we already knew he's unstable and capable of murder. It was Chloe who still protected him.
And it was Chloe who set all parts in motion, and is responsible for what went down in the finale.

Excellent points, ITA!!!

[costas22]

The writers. It's all about the DRAMA!

[Iluvgreen]

So Chloe is suposed to know that Davis is actually bad, without the whole Doomsday thing. She thought he was going to be good. They didn't see it coming. Who could've seen that! It was Davis's fault! I hate him, and I'm glad he died. I hate him worse than LANA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mrs. Superman]

I REALLY blame Jimmy's death on PS' lack of writing skills. But if we have to choose a character from the show then Davis. He murdered Jimmy.

I wish Chloe wasn't tied up in all this. I can see how her actions led to the end result, which was Jimmy's death, but it is sad to see her implicated in this mess. I guess she figured Davis was harmless once the beast was removed. I dont blame her for thinking that, though I did wish her and Jimmy didnt profress their love right next to him.

[Queenrocks77]

As much as I love her. I have to point my finger at Chloe! :(

[Minamostaza]

Oh come on! Are we really gonna do this? I mean, right, blame him or her for Jimmy's death, that's unfair, I feel sorry for Jimmy/Aaron but Iwill tell you one thing if you wanna blame someone: The mythos! Or should I say destiny? He was not the real Jimmy Olsen so then they had to get rid of him anyway, I totally didn't like this twist, but it's Smallville after all.

[disciples of zod]

Davis. Plain and simple. We all saw it. And wtc? Shelby as an option...

~H

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

Davis...duh!!!!!

[marcella]

Davis.

Strange, I'm really simpaphetic to Chloe now

[SVrnFAN]

How about these options:


-Writers
-Producers
-CW
-DC
-Dawn Ostroff
-Budget


My favorite!!

Thank you :)

I voted for the murdering Davis! What was with that?! Although, Davis killing Jimmy did open up storylines for Clark and Chloe next year. Trusting that Davis was an innocent in the whole Doomsday storyline affected Clark and Chloe's perspective. This will make some interesting storylines next year.

[Selina]

The writers!

[rep4clark]

Chloe and davis did a tag team in killin jimmy

[smallville_is_awesome]

yeah, b/c chloe knew davis would go nuts and kill jimmy... Please!

I would say the guy who rammed a pipe in jimmy is the one responsible.

ita! ;)

[ClarksGal]

Chloe and Clark both were trying to salvage a life for the human part of Davis. I don't think what they did was wrong...using the Black K was a good idea. I thought it would work, and was surprised that Davis turned out to be a murderer anyway. That was tragic, but still quite an interesting twist. He was just too far gone, too used to murdering, and too angry about losing Chloe. I thought this was very well done, and very interesting.

Davis is the one at fault, and Davis alone.

[Lavenderlily12]

Davis because he was the one who actually physically killed Jimmy.
Chloe because she pushed Davis into killing Jimmy (unintentionally of course).
And the Writers because they are the ones who are writing up all of this nonsense.

RIP Jimmy :(

[DJ Doena]

Ingame: I blame Davis and no one else. Other people like Chloe may have paved the road, but it's always the killer who has to take it and no one else.

It's like with rape victims who often blame themselves for jogging through that park in that minute. It's not their fault, it's the rapist's fault and no one else's.

From a TV show perspective: It's the budget and very poor writing.

[Davis Bloome]

Davis is responsible... Clark and Chloe might have had some influence on it, but in the end it was Davis who stabbed the pipe through his body. There's no excuse for it, except bad writing...

[skylar]

I think it's both Chloe and Davis's fault. Chloe didn't love Jimmy the way she
said she did. If she care she would have tried to make her marriage work.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Davis, that bastard...

[Canary]

Why Shelby, Why? what has she I, I Mean He has ever done?

[smallvillereporter27]

I think it's both Chloe and Davis's fault. Chloe didn't love Jimmy the way she
said she did. If she care she would have tried to make her marriage work.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jimmy walked out on her. She wanted to try and make her marriage work. I agree that she didn't treat Jimmy the best in Turbulence (and he had every right to leave), but she at least tried. She apologized and he apologized...let's move on :rolleyes:

I still advocate that Jimmy's death was the result of poor planning on Chloe, Clark, and Ollie's part. Oh, and the fact that they 180'd Davis into becoming a psychopath :lol:

[Davis Bloome]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jimmy walked out on her. She wanted to try and make her marriage work. I agree that she didn't treat Jimmy the best in Turbulence (and he had every right to leave), but she at least tried. She apologized and he apologized...let's move on :rolleyes:

I still advocate that Jimmy's death was the result of poor planning on Chloe, Clark, and Ollie's part. Oh, and the fact that they 180'd Davis into becoming a psychopath :lol:
That's the first response I've seen from a Jimmy fan I actually agree with lol.

[ColdPlay3r]

easy

the writers!!!!

[samanthalyn720]

With the logic that a majority of people are using here by blaming Chloe based on the decision to help save Davis, then they should also blame Clark. If he was a real man and truly believed Chloe was wrong in her plight to save Davis, he would've stepped up and taken care of Davis like Oliver wanted him to.

When all is said and done I still believe Clark and Chloe did the right thing, despite what Davis turned out to be. It's like they say, hindsight is 20/20.

[All about Clark]

Davis because he was the one who actually physically killed Jimmy.
Chloe because she pushed Davis into killing Jimmy (unintentionally of course).
And the Writers because they are the ones who are writing up all of this nonsense.

RIP Jimmy :(

1) Davis, 2) Chloe . . . .
And in third place: Clark. He told Jimmy to get Chloe and Davis to safety. I know Clark feels responsible even though he didn't do the killing. That it's Clark's guilt that has him running off.

[Boycott SF:Movie]

It's "Jimmy's" fault for not being born his brother.

[actaeon]

Chloe's a fine judge of character. She didn't see this coming? Didn't think Davis' possessive, jealous streak spelled danger? Combined with his uncontrollable rage, his dubious sanity, his track record of murder and mayhem?

When he kept calling her repeatedly on her wedding day, she didn't see anything stalkerish or psychotic about it?

Chloe has blood on her hands. Again. It's Jimmy's blood this time.

[Tartfox]

Chloe's method of thinking confuses me. She tells Clark he would regret sending him into the Phantom Zone, yet she clearly ignores the bigger picture: that if Davis isn't contained, more lives will be lost.

Chloe tells Jimmy she left with Davis only to protect Clark, but previous episodes clearly indicate her attraction to him. Because Jimmy separated from Chloe she needed to fill a void, and she found that in Davis. He was someone that needed her and she wanted to feel needed. That most likely fueled her decision to stop Clark from sending Davis to the Phantom Zone, cause she knew if that happened she wouldn't have anyone else.

Chloe fails to acknowledge that even though Davis was keeping Doomsday at bay by killing others, he is still committing a crime and as such will have to answer for it once things are resolved with his 'darker side'. Thinking that Davis can still be saved was a foolish notion, as he would eventually have to turn himself in to authorities, which only places him from one confinement (sharing a body with Doomsday) to another (prison).

Constantly being on the run from the law was not the smartest move either, as they would undoubtedly find themselves in situations where their lives, and others, would be at risk on a regular basis.

Finally, her decision to tell Jimmy she left with Davis to protect Clark (while Davis was still in their presence) is unbelievable. Did she not expect or anticipate the possibility that Davis may overhear her, thus causing him to lash out? We already know he is capable of murder, did she not consider the possibility that she or Jimmy may be his next target due to feeling betrayed?

Throughout this season Chloe has made many selfish and careless choices. She was either so hurt by her breakup with Jimmy to even notice, or Brainiac's absence has depleted her brain cells.

Chloe's actions are not only a direct cause of Jimmy's death, but a direct cause for many others losing their lives. Why Clark isn't more stern with her at this point is beyond me.

[xrayvision]

I could just imagine a scene in Smallville similar to that South Park episode where Stan & Cartman destroy the dam/levee in Beaverton and the the end everyone blames themself for breaking the dam.


Souders: I killed Jimmy.

Peterson: I killed Jimmy.

Davis: No, I killed Jimmy.

Clark: I killed Jimmy.

Slavkin: I killed Jimmy.

DC Comics: We killed Jimmy.

Swimmer: I killed Jimmy.

Davis: Seriously, I killed Jimmy.

Chloe: I killed Jimmy.

Lois: I killed Jimmy.

Tess: I killed Jimmy.

Davis: Shut the hell up you turds, I really killed Jimmy.

Oliver: I killed Jimmy.

Impulse: I killed Jimmy.

Black Canary: I killed Jimmy.

Doomsday: Aieeeeee klld Jmmy.

[mangotango]

Davis. He's the one who did the impaling.

[Exedore]

xray, just add Shelby to that scene it'd be epic :D

[Tompouce]

Chloe

[xO Mrs.Welling Ox]

I totally agree. Although Chloe probably should have let Clark put Davis into the PZ, I really don't see her as directly responsible for Jimmy's death.

[Billy Jor-El]

I voted Davis because I cannot bring myself to cast a vote for Chloe, though I understand that her actions had dire consequences, including professing to Jimmy while Davis was lying there presumed unconscious that she did everything for Clark. Davis turned out to be the dark side of humanity, one who was beyond saving no matter what (and before the Black K he tells her that her presence isn't working anymore, he's a dark killer in either form).

However, with a truly emotional finale, to add Shelby to the poll was a wonderful diversion :lol:

[WhoRU?]

I voted Davis because he is the one to impale Jimmy and I don't think Chloe would have seen that.

Afterall Davis was going to kill her as well, if it wasn't for Jimmy saving her.

You might as well suggest that she was attempted suicide if you make her responsible for Jimmy's death, because Davis was after her as well.

[Dominicus]

I voted Davis because he is the one to impale Jimmy and I don't think Chloe would have seen that.

Afterall Davis was going to kill her as well, if it wasn't for Jimmy saving her.

You might as well suggest that she was attempted suicide if you make her responsible for Jimmy's death, because Davis was after her as well.

You know that just made me think of something, since Chloe used the Black K on Dooms that split the two, the connection split. Perhaps this is why Dooms left the rest unharmed after the split. Chloe's connection was to most presumably Dooms, not really Davis it seems, so he was always the murderer. It's the Dooms transformation that probably stop him from killing her before, and not Davis necessarily. Just something to think about

Regardless, you have to look at the events leading up to the death, provocation was there, Chloe knows Davis intimately at this point, and perhaps history of being abandoned, and she did kill Davis, only for him to be resurrected. She lead him on emotionally and he was already a wreck, to have someone say they'll run away with you at the beginning of the finale mind you, but then to find she cared nothing for you at all and was doing this for someone else, that's rejection, it's provocation.

Chloe knew Davis killed on his own before, not as Dooms, but to calm the craving, this suggest a mental stimulant and it was Davis's need to kill, the was apparent to anyone with a brain, even if you are/were a fan of his. To see Davis for what he was, kill with a conscience regret, who justfied the kills because of his beastly side in appearence. But it was he, who was the beast as well, they were the same.

It's clear why Davis attacked Jimmy when he spoke his resentment, this is a crime of passion, the heat of the moment at the time she was Davis's girl, and Jimbo was out the picture, this is equivalent to cheating. There was anger and sadness in the scene filled with tears. This is why Chloe shares in the responsibility, she created the love triangle, instead of stopping Davis's advances, she willfully embraced it. I'm looking at this with an objective perspective because I have no feelings for any of them in this regard.

Chloe could've helped Davis by being his friend not his lover as well, he became emotionally attached, especially when she interfered saving him from the phantom Zone over Clark, and chose him over Jimmy. In his eye she was his saving grace. Everything Davis knew was a lie, his world was over, now that rage from being abandoned by the Luthors set in. Davis did in fact do the killing, however, Chloe unwittingly pulled the trigger leading to the event. It is what it is, Davis didn't just attacked because he felt like it.

[devilneedsaride]

As far as who is RESPONSIBLE, it's clearly Davis. Responsibility belongs to the individual who did the action, which happens to be Davis. Chloe is responsible for Davis being alive/not in the Phantom Zone/whatever, but she is not responsible for Jimmy being dead.

Exactly what I was going to say. ITA.

[lm1212]

In a sense, I say all of the above except Shelby.

[samanthalyn720]

You know that just made me think of something, since Chloe used the Black K on Dooms that split the two, the connection split. Perhaps this is why Dooms left the rest unharmed after the split. Chloe's connection was to most presumably Dooms, not really Davis it seems, so he was always the murderer. It's the Dooms transformation that probably stop him from killing her before, and not Davis necessarily. Just something to think about

Regardless, you have to look at the events leading up to the death, provocation was there, Chloe knows Davis intimately at this point, and perhaps history of being abandoned, and she did kill Davis, only for him to be resurrected. She lead him on emotionally and he was already a wreck, to have someone say they'll run away with you at the beginning of the finale mind you, but then to find she cared nothing for you at all and was doing this for someone else, that's rejection, it's provocation.

Chloe knew Davis killed on his own before, not as Dooms, but to calm the craving, this suggest a mental stimulant and it was Davis's need to kill, the was apparent to anyone with a brain, even if you are/were a fan of his. To see Davis for what he was, kill with a conscience regret, who justfied the kills because of his beastly side in appearence. But it was he, who was the beast as well, they were the same.

It's clear why Davis attacked Jimmy when he spoke his resentment, this is a crime of passion, the heat of the moment at the time she was Davis's girl, and Jimbo was out the picture, this is equivalent to cheating. There was anger and sadness in the scene filled with tears. This is why Chloe shares in the responsibility, she created the love triangle, instead of stopping Davis's advances, she willfully embraced it. I'm looking at this with an objective perspective because I have no feelings for any of them in this regard.

Chloe could've helped Davis by being his friend not his lover as well, he became emotionally attached, especially when she interfered saving him from the phantom Zone over Clark, and chose him over Jimmy. In his eye she was his saving grace. Everything Davis knew was a lie, his world was over, now that rage from being abandoned by the Luthors set in. Davis did in fact do the killing, however, Chloe unwittingly pulled the trigger leading to the event. It is what it is, Davis didn't just attacked because he felt like it.


You know, you're kind of right. While I still don't blame her for Jimmy's death, she led Davis on. I'm glad to hear a more sympathetic view of Davis's situation than most people have. I hate what he did, but with the stuff Davis went through this season, it's hard not to have a complete mental breakdown.

[Dominicus]

In a sense, I say all of the above except Shelby.:rotfl:Except Shelby!:cool: I don't know perhaps he/she shares in the responsibility by being a transgender dog, talk about a twist that made everyone crazy.

[Liquid-Prince]

It's Clark because he is the one that told Jimmy to go to Chloe and Davis.

[Selina]

Davis, he killed him.

However I do think Chloe set up the chain of events to that happening, despite her good intentions.

[Billy Jor-El]

It's Clark because he is the one that told Jimmy to go to Chloe and Davis.

Which I think was the point when Jimmy questioned going to Davis, Clark told him to trust him, causing "always....CK." Without telling him details, what did Clark expect Jimmy to do when he confronted his ex/estranged wife and a guy whom she had run away from that was more than a little bipolar? I'm assuming Clark had no idea that Davis was still ultimately the Beast as well, and expected Jimmy to find a relieved, redeemed human grateful for his salvation. Putting humanity on a pedestal? Indeed....

[wafflles87]

Davis, he killed him.

However I do think Chloe set up the chain of events to that happening, despite her good intentions.

And that's why I hope that next season Chloe stays the F out of Clark's kryptonian business.

Ollie in Bloodline: "Listen... when it comes to Clark's... that... I, uh... I steer clear".

[Spirit Detective]

Al and Miles

[RedKRules]

Yep I agree with you Spirit .... Al/Miles !

[borednow]

for not being involved in this episode?

[Bizarrolover]

And that's why I hope that next season Chloe stays the F out of Clark's kryptonian business.

Ollie in Bloodline: "Listen... when it comes to Clark's... that... I, uh... I steer clear".

I agree. And I hope Clark learns his lesson and keeps her away from his kryptonian stuff, because apparently, she can't help herself.

[baltazor]

It is the same thing over and over again. Whenever someone gets involved with with things that were never meant for them (Lex,Lionel,Jonathan,Tess,Chloe) there were nasty consequences... Clark should leave everyone out of his kryptonian business. And Chloe should have known better. She was out of place. And she took a huge risk because if her plan backfired (which it did) she wouldn't be able to rectify her mistake. Clark would.

[friendsita]

Yeah, b/c Chloe knew Davis would go nuts and kill Jimmy... please!

I would say the guy who rammed a pipe in Jimmy is the one responsible.

ITA

[mytvtalk]

the lazy ass writers thats who

[EternalTwilight]

I'll have to go with our sorry excuse for writers.

[WhoRU?]

. . .

However I do think Chloe set up the chain of events to that happening, despite her good intentions.

But what do you expect to do if you were in her place? Let Davis/DD go all ape and kill Clark or Jimmy, when she was calming him down unknownly with Brainac connection and not her meteor healing powers. Like Cosmic Boy said, if they didn't break that connection Chloe had with Davis/DD by pulling Brainac too early, this would have not happen.

So really if you suggest that it was Chloe fault setting up the event then you might as well suggest that it was the fault of the Legion of Superheroes from the 31st century was the ones who set the ball rolling by coming back and messing up the timeline. They should just saved Clark and leave it as that and worry about Brainac after they check out the future before deciding the next step. But then, how are they are to know from their earth history, they didn't know about Chloe at all.

Really it was a series of unfortunate events that came together.

[borednow]

Then you should blame whoever invented time travel and ...

... the lead pipe was invented in ancient Rome some time around ...

... Archaic Homo sapiens evolved between 400,000 and 250,000 years ago...

Davis, okay. He could have chosen not to stab Jimmy, he didn't. Period. End of freaking story!

[actaeon]

I hate what he did, but with the stuff Davis went through this season, it's hard not to have a complete mental breakdown.
Except Davis seemed to be broken right from the beginning. I don't see it as any kind of last-minute thing, something that happened as a consequence of feeling abandoned by Chloe. He was unstable and dangerous right from the beginning. In the hospital, he was killing as Davis. He assaulted and drugged Jimmy, discrediting him and wrecking his marriage-- as Davis. He was covering his murderous tracks-- again as Davis. And Choe was helping him.

Seems obvious to me that Davis was evil, just plain evil. The surprising thing is that Chloe took his side.

She used to be smarter than this. She used to have a sense of right & wrong.

This is why I blame Chloe; Davis was obviously the one who did the actual killing, but that's what killers do. He was just following his nature. He was doing what Brainiac created him to do. Nothing surprising there.

It was Chloe who surprised me. Davis was clearly obsessed with her, a scary, sick possessiveness. She should've known that put Jimmy at risk. Davis was a liar from the beginning, and yet she believed his assurances that he wouldn't transform if she stuck by him-- even though he had transformed right in front of her. She was gambling with other people's lives on very shaky evidence and worse logic.

She was responsible for keeping Davis out of the PZ, where he belonged. She allowed a monster to roam free, and the monster killed again and again until it finally killed Jimmy.

[Selina]

But what do you expect to do if you were in her place? Let Davis/DD go all ape and kill Clark or Jimmy, when she was calming him down unknownly with Brainac connection and not her meteor healing powers. Like Cosmic Boy said, if they didn't break that connection Chloe had with Davis/DD by pulling Brainac too early, this would have not happen.

If I were in her place, I would have allowed Clark to send Doomsay to the PZ, not put this pathetic guilt trip of him never being able to forgive himself. That annoyed me no end. Clark Kent is a man and can make his own decisions. What he did, or at least was trying to do, was to protect the world - which can't be said for Chloe. When it came down to it, it was Clark she was protecting. She must have known her plan wouldn't hold out for ever. What would she do, take him to loo with him? Have herself chained to his hip for the rest of her life? What about when she dies? He's immortal remember. She'd be unleasing a monster.


So really if you suggest that it was Chloe fault setting up the event then you might as well suggest that it was the fault of the Legion of Superheroes from the 31st century was the ones who set the ball rolling by coming back and messing up the timeline. They should just saved Clark and leave it as that and worry about Brainac after they check out the future before deciding the next step. But then, how are they are to know from their earth history, they didn't know about Chloe at all.

Really it was a series of unfortunate events that came together.

0f course it goes without saying that there were many factors involved but I do think it was Chloe's poor judgement that played the most prominant part in the lead up to the deaths and without her choices, the outcome would have been a whole lot different. She could have let Clark send him to the PZ, she could have not ran away with Davis. What she should have done was work together with Clark to find a way to stop Doomsday and remove him from humanity at once, not calm him. That just not enough in the grand scheme of things. Maybe you're right, maybe the LoS set the ball rolling. However at least they, like Clark, like Oliver, were looking at way to remove the creature from the world so he wouldn't pose a threat. He wouldn't kill anymore. Chloe knew the profecy, she knew he was the worlds destroyer, yet she still allowed him to roam around on earth because she thought it was for the best.

Like I said, her intentions may have been good but it was very foolish so yes, in one respect she does bare some blame in what happened. I can't get away from that. Though ultimately not the sole blame as she did not kill anyone.

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

It's Shelby's fault! JK, JK! Sorry, I had to do something humorous to get my mind off of the intense rage I have been feeling since Thursday night...

But in my opinion, Davis and Chloe are both to blame. Davis is the one who stabbed him in the gut with a pipe and Chloe's the one who refused to let Clark send Davis/Doomsday to the Phantom Zone (I can't blame her for that, though).

[umm]

Except Davis seemed to be broken right from the beginning. I don't see it as any kind of last-minute thing, something that happened as a consequence of feeling abandoned by Chloe. He was unstable and dangerous right from the beginning. In the hospital, he was killing as Davis. He assaulted and drugged Jimmy, discrediting him and wrecking his marriage-- as Davis. He was covering his murderous tracks-- again as Davis. And Choe was helping him.
Seems obvious to me that Davis was evil, just plain evil. The surprising thing is that Chloe.
She used to be smarter than this. She used to have a sense of right & wrong.
This is why I blame Chloe; Davis was obviously the one who did the actual killing, but that's what killers do. He was just following his nature. He was doing what Brainiac created him to do. Nothing surprising there.
It was Chloe who surprised me. Davis was clearly obsessed with her, a scary, sick possessiveness. She should've known that put Jimmy at risk. Davis was a liar from the beginning, and yet she believed his assurances that he wouldn't transform if she stuck by him-- even though he had transformed right in front of her. She was gambling with other people's lives on very shaky evidence and worse logic.
She was responsible for keeping Davis out of the PZ, where he belonged. She allowed a monster to roam free, and the monster killed again and again until it finally killed Jimmy.

Listen, she may have overestimated her ability in keeping Davies from becoming the Beast, and she certainly should have confided in Clark and JL from the get go, so in that regard she is gulity of hubris, but there no way she could have known, that Davis was an actual sicko killer even as a mere human!
That is something we all discovered in the last scene! I mean fine fault her for her actual mistake, but don't fault her for something she had no way of knowing! And that has nothing to do with intellect and smart, but rather an abily of foresight, which she doesn't posses!

[melissan02]

Listen, she may have overestimated her ability in keeping Davies from becoming the Beast, and she certainly should have confided in Clark and JL from the get go, so in that regard she is gulity of hubris, but there no way she could have known, that Davis was an actual sicko killer even as a mere human!
That is something we all discovered in the last scene! I mean fine fault her for her actual mistake, but don't fault her for something she had no way of knowing! And that has nothing to do with intellect and smart, but rather an abily of foresight, which she doesn't posses!

Apparently Ollie possesses the ability of foresight, because he warned Chloe and Clark about Davis! Davis, not Doomsday! However his warning wasn't heeded and Chloe continued to believe there was good in Davis.:rolleyes: Clark went right along w/ her and believed this to, when he should have sent him to the PZ in the first place!
For this, Chloe is to blame. She didn't heed Ollie's warning, and now her husband, who adored her, is dead.:(

[topping82]

The only people responsible for Jimmy's death are the writers and perhaps DC. Other than that I see Davis, Chloe and Clark as innocent. Merely victims of character assassination put on them by horrible writing.

[Spirit Detective]

It's not who, but what

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[johnr90]

wowwwwwww...you're all cool. lets blame chloe for someone she loves dying? that's a little ridiculous. honestly. you can play the what-if game and say "well if chloe had just died earlier, or let Clark put him in the Phantom Zone, etc etc, jimmy would still be alive." but the only thing she was guilty of was trusting humanity possibly too much. she beleived davis was a good person. and excuse me if we make mistakes sometimes. the fact is DAVIS was the one who killed jimmy. hands down. duh. you people need to get over your chloe-hate. it doesn't even make sense.

[Reporter]

Davis.

If Chloe is responsible, then so is Clark and Ollie. Chloe and Clark both wanted for Davis to be saved, and Clark told Jimmy to keep both Chloe and Davis safe. And Ollie hired Jimmy and got him more involved than he would have been otherwise.

[justme_007]

The writers are the responsible. and the writers are the producers.

[LJ-90]

Every single person who thought this was a great idea (or hell, even agreed with it) it's responsible.

Not the characters fault, the writters, producer, director, chief of the CW...every one of them is responsible.

[Billy Jor-El]

Then blame Lionel for abandoning the other traveller......

[Night_Hawk90]

wowwwwwww...you're all cool. lets blame chloe for someone she loves dying? that's a little ridiculous. honestly. you can play the what-if game and say "well if chloe had just died earlier, or let Clark put him in the Phantom Zone, etc etc, jimmy would still be alive." but the only thing she was guilty of was trusting humanity possibly too much. she beleived davis was a good person. and excuse me if we make mistakes sometimes. the fact is DAVIS was the one who killed jimmy. hands down. duh. you people need to get over your chloe-hate. it doesn't even make sense.

and i guess this makes you cool for going on your little rant on how chloe's mistake was not her fault yea okay. Is it really hard to admit that chloe was at fault? the excuses people come up with for her flabberghast me she made a huge mistake and now clark has to suffer for it.

[Reporter]

I can't believe Chloe is leading this poll. :rotfl:

[DGirlLois4Clark]

I blame Chloe. I really hate that character now! She needs to die already..she's eating up too much screentime IMO.

[chlavisbug]

well she hasnt really been in peoples good books ever since the finale

[Reporter]

well she hasnt really been in peoples good books ever since the finale

And I don't get it.

She tried to save what she believed to be an innocent person. (Davis) It's what Clark essentially wanted as well. Is it terrible that he turned out to be not so innocent? Of course. But I fail to see how that makes Chloe the number one person responsible for Jimmy's death. Or why trying to save a life in general makes her a bad person. :rolleyes:

[BadToad]

If Chloe is responsible, then so is Clark and Ollie.

In a way, yes, both do share some of the responsibility along with Chloe. But thus far, only Clark seems willing to face up to his part in this tragedy. We haven't heard from Oliver (but I don't expect anything anymore from him), and Chloe seems oblivious to the part she played, thereby furthering her Lanafication. Maybe she's still processing, and we'll hear something from her next season, but I was completely disappointed that she wasn't feeling responsible in some way. Even if you believe it wasn't Chloe's fault, wouldn't any human being in her position, knowing that Davis killed Jimmy over her, feel some sense of responsibility?

As it was, it was only the alien character, Clark, who seemed to have the most human response, and feel the burden of guilt over Jimmy's death.

Sure, Davis was ultimately responsible. No question. But the events that led up to Jimmy's death had others fingerprints all over it.

And really, no needs to get over their disappointment, anger, or flat-out dislike, of Chloe. As a Clark fan, who has endured years of him being called names, thats just the way it goes. Everyone has to make their peace with the fact that not everyone loves the character we love. IMO


It's what Clark essentially wanted as well.

Its what Clark wanted as well after getting a lecture from Chloe. Is it his responsibility that he listened to her, and let her opinion sway him? Yes, 100%. Which we saw Clark accept responsibility for. But the fact remains, IMO, that Chloe's empassioned belief in saving Davis (for ambigious reasons) swayed Clark from trusting his own instincts, and the situation just grew worse and worse, compounded by Oliver, and the end result is a dead Jimmy and a Davis that was beyond saving.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Chloe is the one to blame. She got too involved in Davis even whilst she was engaged to Jimmy. She didnt stand by her husband and got too involved in krytonian probs.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

Gosh, I really hate Chloe for ruining Jimmy's life. What a mistake he made falling for her.

[Reporter]

Even if you believe it wasn't Chloe's fault, wouldn't any human being in her position, knowing that Davis killed Jimmy over her, feel some sense of responsibility?

I think yes, and she probably feels (indirectly) responsible, but I don't think she should take a large chunk of the blame.


Its what Clark wanted as well after getting a lecture from Chloe.

Didn't Clark want to save Davis before Chloe made an kind of argument for it? She pulled the lever on Davis because he asked her to, and because it'd mean that Clark was safe. But Clark wasn't keen on the idea at all.

[BadToad]

I think yes, and she probably feels (indirectly) responsible, but I don't think she should take a large chunk of the blame.

Well, I hope to see some of her feeling responsible next season, because I sure as heck didn't see any of it in this finale. And she had every opportunity in that last scene with Clark.


Didn't Clark want to save Davis before Chloe made an kind of argument for it? She pulled the lever on Davis because he asked her to, and because it'd mean that Clark was safe. But Clark wasn't keen on the idea at all.

Right. But instead of letting Clark handle the situation, and follow his instincts, Chloe acted and took the decision away from him. Then again, when he came to a conclusion that the Phantom Zone was the answer, Chloe acted and swayed him away from that decision. And lastly, when Clark came up with another solution, Chloe decides to use it when Clark isn't even there to try and control the beast, and so Doomsday is let loose and kills who knows how many people? And when Clark asks what happened, he gets some weirdly snippy answer from Chloe "Exactly what you wanted to happen". Only, it wasn't at all, since Clark wanted to be present to control the situation.

So, yeah, I think Chloe's inteference, and second guessing, and lack of trust in Clark's judgement and ability to handle the situation was a huge part of why everything turned out so badly.

[Khyla]

Well, I hope to see some of her feeling responsible next season, because I sure as heck didn't see any of it in this finale.

What about her response to Clark when he said, "It wasn't a Kryptonian that killed Jimmy. It was a human."

She came back with what sounded to me like acceptance of self-accusation. "I was standing right here, Clark. I know full well who killed Jimmy."

[BadToad]

She came back with what sounded to me like acceptance of self-accusation. "I was standing right here, Clark. I know full well who killed Jimmy."

And I'll just disagree, because that didn't sound like a self-accusation to me at all. At best, it was ambigious. At worst, its her saying it was all Davis' fault without looking at the events that led up to that moment.

Chloe had her chance to step in, and take responsibility, when Clark said he was the reason Jimmy was dead. Instead she did and said nothing to refute that. That was her opening, IMO

[Kal-ed]

Thanks BadToad its always nice to have a non shipper voice of reason, since Im a Cloiser/Loiser, aparently, Im incapable of being objective and can not post my perspective on the issue without hearing stuff like "had it been Lois you wouldnt be saying this..." or "your biased opinion..." so Im glad someone that has never been a shiper thinks exactly the way I do.

Chloe is the new Lana.

[SnowBird]

And I'll just disagree, because that didn't sound like a self-accusation to me at all. At best, it was ambigious. At worst, its her saying it was all Davis' fault without looking at the events that led up to that moment.

Chloe had her chance to step in, and take responsibility, when Clark said he was the reason Jimmy was dead. Instead she did and said nothing to refute that. That was her opening, IMO

It didn't sound like Chloe was taking any responsibility to me either. I agree with everything you said previously.

[SupermanRox]

I think that statement is ambiguous too. I voted for Davis because he is the one who actually murdered Jimmy but I do see the role that Chloe playing in Davis even being alive.

[bluewolv1970]

well you know this typifies the idea of no personal responsibility for our actions blame others davis is given by chloe and clark a chance at a better life and his first act as a "free" man is to jam a pole through henry and yet davis does not even lead the poll unbelievable

[Davis Bloome]

I agree that Chloe had the chance to take at least some responsibility. To me it was something no one could have foreseen. I know many thought Davis was a psycho from the start or when he started killing people, but to me he just snapped right at the moment when he heard Chloe was only with him to protect Clark. So of course the main person who is responsible is Davis. Chloe is partially responsible but I don't blame her as much as others, cause I think lots of what happened couldn't be foreseen. And Chloe got also sucked in a lot of events and felt forced, though she did still have a choice in some events that happened, but made the wrong one.
Clark, is he responsible in any way? Yes and no. There are some things he could have done. I'm not going to sum it all up. But as one example if Clark really thought the PZ was the solution he should have thrown Davis still in when he was about to get weak by Chloe's presence, instead he just stood by and did nothing. He shouldn't have listened to Chloe considering what the result is, but again lots of things happened which nobody could have foreseen...

[Serynarpc]

'Well of coz Davis killed him but...

......... Chloe is the one to BLAME!! (as u can tell they were too busy making out without noticing there's a super "jealous" dude laying on the ground next to them ....watching , but Chloe, it was you who made Davis killed Jimmy!!)

And Clark, will u stop blaming urself for Jimmy's death, its Chloe's fault, not yours Clark! '

No.

I don't subscribe into the 'oh its X's fault because she didn't foresee this' or 'it's X's fault because he didn't foresee this'.

Its impossible to lay another person's actions at someone else's feet without having a tangible connection- ie Chloe threatened to kill X if Davis didn't do it, or something. Obviously Chloe wasn't blackmailing or extorting Davis into doing anything against his will. It was Davis' actions that killed Jimmy.

If you follow this logic, you can blame Clark for all of the Brainiac killings because he didn't foresee Brainiac's return/didn't stop him or blame him for Lex's murders because he knew Lex was evil and didn't 'stop him'.

One person can only control their own actions. You can try to influence and prevent all you want (like Chloe and Clark did) but in the end, it's all on that person.

[Kal-ed]

I agree that Chloe had the chance to take at least some responsibility. To me it was something no one could have foreseen. I know many thought Davis was a psycho from the start or when he started killing people, but to me he just snapped right at the moment when he heard Chloe was only with him to protect Clark. So of course the main person who is responsible is Davis. Chloe is partially responsible but I don't blame her as much as others, cause I think lots of what happened couldn't be foreseen. And Chloe got also sucked in a lot of events and felt forced, though she did still have a choice in some events that happened, but made the wrong one.
Clark, is he responsible in any way? Yes and no. There are some things he could have done. I'm not going to sum it all up. But as one example if Clark really thought the PZ was the solution he should have thrown Davis still in when he was about to get weak by Chloe's presence, instead he just stood by and did nothing. He shouldn't have listened to Chloe considering what the result is, but again lots of things happened which nobody could have foreseen...

I think some viewers, as did Chloe, chose not to see the reality, Davis was hiding dismembered bodies for gawds sakes, Davis, not Doomsday, Davis. Since Abyss his obsession with Chloe was becoming more and more evident, even during his confrontation against Clark in the FOS, Davis was a derranged maniac and DD had nothing to do with it, again, I think just cause his eyes got red it was DD and not Davis but let me ask this: who´s the one getting anoyed and angry enough to get to a point of DD leaking out?? If you answered Davis Bloom you are right. Also his decision to start killing bad guys to controll his urges came rather easy, much more easier than it would come to a good person. Now Im not saying it was clear as water things would end as they did but IMO both Chloe and some surprised vieweres could have at least contemplated the posibility Davis was not a saint.

[Davis Bloome]

I think some viewers, as did Chloe, chose not to see the reality, Davis was hiding dismembered bodies for gawds sakes, Davis, not Doomsday, Davis. Since Abyss his obsession with Chloe was becoming more and more evident, even during his confrontation against Clark in the FOS, Davis was a derranged maniac and DD had nothing to do with it, again, I think just cause his eyes got red it was DD and not Davis but let me ask this: who´s the one getting anoyed and angry enough to get to a point of DD leaking out?? If you answered Davis Bloom you are right. Also his decision to start killing bad guys to controll his urges came rather easy, much more easier than it would come to a good person. Now Im not saying it was clear as water things would end as they did but IMO both Chloe and some surprised vieweres could have at least contemplating the posibility Davis was not a saint. I understand what you're saying, though there's one thing I don't... 'Who's the one getting annoyed and angry enough to get to a point of DD leaking out??' Well not Davis. You see Davis getting angry, screaming because DD wants to come out and because he's trying to fight against the transformation, but Davis always tries to calm himself to prevent DD coming out. And the choice of criminals was for him the lesser of two evils... Kill one criminal or let DD kill who knows how many innocents.

[Kal-ed]

If you follow this logic, you can blame Clark for all of the Brainiac killings because he didn't foresee Brainiac's return/didn't stop him or blame him for Lex's murders because he knew Lex was evil and didn't 'stop him'.


So not the same thing, Clark wasnt harbouring Brainiac, Clark wasnt ridiculously overconfident about his capabilities to control/handle Brainiac, Clark wasnt stoping other people from trying to stop Brainiac, Clark is Kryptonian and has Superpowers (a huge, huge upside if things end up getting ugly). Clark didnt help brainiac get rid of the people he killed.




One person can only control their own actions. You can try to influence and prevent all you want (like Chloe and Clark did) but in the end, it's all on that person.

Chloe had to choices, well she had many, but two main ones, let Clark handle the superpowered kryptonian monster or try and do it herself. She chose the later with all its adjecent consecuences, Chloe is not by any means the villan of the story, nor is she the sole responsible for what happened but she certainly had her part and she´s not owning up to any of it, as if "I did it for Clark" were magic words that made all her actions disapear or that the ends justify the means; she killed Sebastian for Clark, to protect Clark´s secret, that´s still murder even if "its for Clark".

[TOMophilus]

'Well of coz Davis killed him but...

......... Chloe is the one to BLAME!! (as u can tell they were too busy making out without noticing there's a super "jealous" dude laying on the ground next to them ....watching , but Chloe, it was you who made Davis killed Jimmy!!)

And Clark, will u stop blaming urself for Jimmy's death, its Chloe's fault, not yours Clark! '

No.

I don't subscribe into the 'oh its X's fault because she didn't foresee this' or 'it's X's fault because he didn't foresee this'.

Its impossible to lay another person's actions at someone else's feet without having a tangible connection- ie Chloe threatened to kill X if Davis didn't do it, or something. Obviously Chloe wasn't blackmailing or extorting Davis into doing anything against his will. It was Davis' actions that killed Jimmy.

If you follow this logic, you can blame Clark for all of the Brainiac killings because he didn't foresee Brainiac's return/didn't stop him or blame him for Lex's murders because he knew Lex was evil and didn't 'stop him'.

One person can only control their own actions. You can try to influence and prevent all you want (like Chloe and Clark did) but in the end, it's all on that person.
That´s the cheap way out for all those who don´t want to take responsibility. If you hand someone a loaded gun, you are responsible too if that person kills someone. It´s as simple as that. You may not be the killer, but you are the co-killer, and you deserve to go to jail too.

And in Doomsday everyone was responsible: the traitors Ollie, Dinah and Bart, and of course Chloe because she did have a romantic attachment to Davis and hence tried to protect him. The excuse that she wanted to protect Clark is as lame as it can be.

[Deana]

Davis would be in the Phantom Zone if ____ would not have manipulated Clark into making him believe that a Kryptonian killer did not belong in a Kryptonian prison.

Davis would not have been there to stab Jimmy if ____ had not stopped Clark from trapping Davis in the Phantom Zone.

Clark would not have been so dumb as to send Jimmy off with Davis if had not be swayed by ____'s way of thinking because Davis would be in the Phantom Zone and no where near Jimmy.

Davis would not have been there to be betrayed by ____'s word to Jimmy because he would be trapped in the Phantom Zone.

Now lets fill in the blank from the characters we have left:
Chloe
Shelby

[abbaspice1]

davis would be in the phantom zone if ____ would not have manipulated clark into making him believe that a kryptonian killer did not belong in a kryptonian prison.

Davis would not have been there to stab jimmy if ____ had not stopped clark from trapping davis in the phantom zone.

Clark would not have been so dumb as to send jimmy off with davis if had not be swayed by ____'s way of thinking because davis would be in the phantom zone and no where near jimmy.

Davis would not have been there to be betrayed by ____'s word to jimmy because he would be trapped in the phantom zone.

Now lets fill in the blank from the characters we have left:
chloe
shelby

:d bravo :d

[Kal-ed]

I understand what you're saying, though there's one thing I don't... 'Who's the one getting annoyed and angry enough to get to a point of DD leaking out??' Well not Davis. You see Davis getting angry, screaming because DD wants to come out and because he's trying to fight against the transformation, but Davis always tries to calm himself to prevent DD coming out. And the choice of criminals was for him the lesser of two evils... Kill one criminal or let DD kill who knows how many innocents.

Dont we all try to controll our anger? at least I dont usually let it surface freely and even though I try to controll it, its still me the one getting mad for X or Y. Of course I dont have a monster in me but anger is anger, now Im not talking about the urges he got while doing everyday chores and had to go kill a criminal to apeace himself, Im talking about those instances were Davis Bloom was getting mad, he particularly seemed very very sesnsible to the Chloe subject, his obsession was IMO aparent since Abyss, going through Infamous, Turbulence, Eternal, Beast to Injustice it became pretty obvious his feelings for Chloe were not healthy and it seemed like an obsession might ensue, and I still dont see how people didnt see it, maybe in retrospect now, some could get my point, but although I of course didnt expect things to end like they did, I certainly did not trust and/or excused Davis given his previous behaviour.

And again, I understand he chose the lesser of two evils but like I said the worse of two evils came quite easy for him.

[EarlTheEradicator]

I love chloe but whenever i try to say any of this is someone elses fault i always end up thinking, "oh wait a minute all of this could have been prevented if chloe would have just let clark throw davis into the PZ"

dang you settled my argument before i even had a chance to say anything good job

[Davis Bloome]

Davis never got angry out of himself, he was always a very calm and stable person until the finale, which was a complete character turnaround. When Jimmy had him cuffed up, did he get angry at Jimmy? No he was concerned for Jimmy's life as he feared the beast would kill him. He surely looked angry but he wasn't, he was afraid. Always when Jimmy tried to expose him he stayed calm and rational and he has actually reason to get angry. A guy who is not stable would have gotten angry, but Davis didn't. When he had Jimmy and Oliver hooked up in the cellar, the only time he got angry was when Jimmy kept provoking him. And Jimmy has the right to get angry, but don't expect he'll act all soft in return. There was always some influence from DD when you actually saw him getting angry, cause the Beast only came out because it had a will of its own and had a thirst for blood and if Davis satisfied the Beast it didn't come out.

[WhoRU?]

Davis was so used to killing because he had the beast that any humanity that was left was damaged and traumatised that he was not able to think or act clearly. Sometimes the moral line has been crossed so many times that there is no rational ability to stop what he had done already. In essence, after a while, there was no point of return or redemption so as the saying goes "It is best to put the dog out of it's misery". The only time that Davis was the most calm and stable was at the end, after he was tackled and speared. He knew that this time he was not coming back to a miserable life again.

I think that he represents many criminals that has the same mentality coming from an abused background but in his case he was doomed before he was even born because of what Zod created him to be. It was better that he was not born at all, however Clark and Chloe refused to believe that he was beyond redemption because of their own high morals stand that everyone has a redeeming feature. What they failed realise is that there are some people who has no good side to redeem.

[Pantalaimon]

Davis never got angry out of himself, he was always a very calm and stable person until the finale, which was a complete character turnaround.
^Not true. There have been moments when he was angry. With Clark in the fortress for one. And he was clearly getting more and more desperate.

Anyway, Davis is responsible. We can't blame the beast part of him anymore, although I can understand why Davis would be 'unstable' after everything that's happened to him.

If you're going to blame Chloe you have to blame Clark as well.

But I still think they did the right thing in not sending Davis to the PS, tragic though the result of that decision may be. But this story was never going to have a happy ending.

[Davis Bloome]

Davis was so used to killing because he had the beast that any humanity that was left was damaged and traumatised that he was not able to think or act clearly. Sometimes the moral line has been crossed so many times that there is no rational ability to stop what he had done already. In essence, after a while, there was no point of return or redemption so as the saying goes "It is best to put the dog out of it's misery". The only time that Davis was the most calm and stable was at the end, after he was tackled and speared. He knew that this time he was not coming back to a miserable life again.I think that he represents many criminals that has the same mentality coming from an abused background but in his case he was doomed before he was even born because of what Zod created him to be. It was better that he was not born at all, however Clark and Chloe refused to believe that he was beyond redemption because of their own high morals stand that everyone has a redeeming feature. What they failed realise is that there are some people who has no good side to redeem.
Well you are entitled to your opinion of course, but as I said, Davis had his morals and conscience and kept it until the end before the finale. So you understand that I disagree. I think Davis had to die, but at least in a way that at least some redemption was possible cause the motive to kill Jimmy was entirely different from the motive to kill those criminals. one was selfish, while the other ones were actually pretty selfless, though at times not completely, cause I know that choosing your victims even if it's for a good cause can never be entirely selfless. But still the motive was entirely different, cause even the actor didn't agree with the script. He too probably thought they suddenly changed the character as he said himself that Davis was always meant to be played as a good person. Even Aaron Ashmore supported this, so I stand with them, not with the writers.

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^Not true. There have been moments when he was angry. With Clark in the fortress for one. Again Davis was under influence of DD even before he got into the fortress. And we all know that DD automatically makes Davis angry around Clark just because he was sent there to destroy him.

[darkraya]

Davis!!!

[BadToad]

For the record, the person I choose in this poll was Davis, because he is ultimately the murderer.

But I just can't look at this situation, and not see Chloe's hand in this. IMO, she cannot be absolved, and she should not be. Of course she couldn't have foreseen what would happen, but she made so many bad decisions that I just think the disasterous end result should reflect on her. Not that its "all her fault", Not that "she killed Jimmy". But Dang, she most certainly was one of the great big factors in what happened. And because I found her choices to be so ridiculously moronic, its not like I can even explain them away by saying that she thought she was doing the right thing. Because dumping body parts in a dumpster will never be the right thing. And hiding an alien serial killer (at least some of the time) in your basement will never be the right thing. Leading that unstable being to believe that you "would do anything for him", and that you're willing to disappear with him, and then macking out on your ex in the same room as him will never be the right thing.

Davis killed Jimmy. No arguement. But I still believe Jimmy's blood is on a lot of hands, and yes, that includes Clark. Because if he had stuck to his own guns, and not let Chloe sway his judgement, all this might not have happened. And when Clark feels bad about it, and blames himself, he wins my sympathy there, because he's questioning his decisions, and he's feeling what any human being would feel...could I have prevented this?. And I don't understand why Chloe doesn't seem to be doing the same thing. I don't understand why Jimmy died professing love to Chloe, and freaking apologizing to her when Chloe couldn't be bothered to do either of those things for him. I think Chloe should feel really danged freaking bad, and yes, responsible, because thats the very real, human thing to do. And in that last scene, I saw a Chloe that seemed very much about...Chloe. "I lost everyone! Jimmy bought this place for me! Clark why didn't you come to me!" Who substitued Lana dialogue for Chloe's dialogue?

So, to sum up, Who is to Blame? Davis, first and foremost. But there's lots of blame to go around, and I'd like to see the major players own up to that. Clark has. Chloe, Oliver, Tess...Batter Up!

JMO

[Violet-Shadow]

^^ Wow, that's an excellent post BadToad. IA 100%

[Kal-ed]

Davis never got angry out of himself, he was always a very calm and stable person until the finale, which was a complete character turnaround. When Jimmy had him cuffed up, did he get angry at Jimmy? No he was concerned for Jimmy's life as he feared the beast would kill him. He surely looked angry but he wasn't, he was afraid. Always when Jimmy tried to expose him he stayed calm and rational and he has actually reason to get angry. A guy who is not stable would have gotten angry, but Davis didn't. When he had Jimmy and Oliver hooked up in the cellar, the only time he got angry was when Jimmy kept provoking him. And Jimmy has the right to get angry, but don't expect he'll act all soft in return. There was always some influence from DD when you actually saw him getting angry, cause the Beast only came out because it had a will of its own and had a thirst for blood and if Davis satisfied the Beast it didn't come out.

He didnt look very calm when he was talking to Ollie and Jimmy during beast, trying to control himself yes but getting angry non the less, again as I said (and I really dont like repeating myself) when it came to Chloe, Davis got angry very easily, his obsession for her was evident, its right there, rewatch the episodes if needed be and you´ll find that his Chloe obsession was noticeable as far back as Abyss, gettng worse and worse after Infamous.

[EarlTheEradicator]

Personally I think davis is to blame why because davis did kill him so why wouldnt he be to blame. Everyones saying its chloes fault thats like putting someone on trial for murder when everyone saw davis do it. It was a bad situation and jimmy got screwed in the end

[Pantalaimon]

Again Davis was under influence of DD even before he got into the fortress. And we all know that DD automatically makes Davis angry around Clark just because he was sent there to destroy him.
He's been around Clark plenty of times and managed to stay in control. And he still seemed pretty sane in the fortress; angry but not 'I'm not in control' angry.

And beyond that, we've seen a very desperate Davis when Chloe wasn't around in Beast, so for Chloe to say she didn't love him must have been shattering.

To be clear, I think Davis did a remarkable job of keeping the beast in check for as long as he did, even if it forced him to resort to murdering criminals. That's why I think he deserved to be given a second chance. You are right about him being a very controlled person, but that self-control was clearly breaking in the end. When Chloe was telling Jimmy she still loved him with Davis laying there, I was waiting for Davis' outburst. I didn't quite expect him to kill Jimmy, but it did make sense.

The beast part being split from Davis didn't restore him to his former self. What was left could only have been a very damaged human being and Chloe was still his only support. When that support fell away... Tragedy.

[Kal-ed]

For the record, the person I choose in this poll was Davis, because he is ultimately the murderer.

But I just can't look at this situation, and not see Chloe's hand in this. IMO, she cannot be absolved, and she should not be. Of course she couldn't have foreseen what would happen, but she made so many bad decisions that I just think the disasterous end result should reflect on her. Not that its "all her fault", Not that "she killed Jimmy". But Dang, she most certainly was one of the great big factors in what happened. And because I found her choices to be so ridiculously moronic, its not like I can even explain them away by saying that she thought she was doing the right thing. Because dumping body parts in a dumpster will never be the right thing. And hiding an alien serial killer (at least some of the time) in your basement will never be the right thing. Leading that unstable being to believe that you "would do anything for him", and that you're willing to disappear with him, and then macking out on your ex in the same room as him will never be the right thing.

Davis killed Jimmy. No arguement. But I still believe Jimmy's blood is on a lot of hands, and yes, that includes Clark. Because if he had stuck to his own guns, and not let Chloe sway his judgement, all this might not have happened. And when Clark feels bad about it, and blames himself, he wins my sympathy there, because he's questioning his decisions, and he's feeling what any human being would feel...could I have prevented this?. And I don't understand why Chloe doesn't seem to be doing the same thing. I don't understand why Jimmy died professing love to Chloe, and freaking apologizing to her when Chloe couldn't be bothered to do either of those things for him. I think Chloe should feel really danged freaking bad, and yes, responsible, because thats the very real, human thing to do. And in that last scene, I saw a Chloe that seemed very much about...Chloe. "I lost everyone! Jimmy bought this place for me! Clark why didn't you come to me!" Who substitued Lana dialogue for Chloe's dialogue?

So, to sum up, Who is to Blame? Davis, first and foremost. But there's lots of blame to go around, and I'd like to see the major players own up to that. Clark has. Chloe, Oliver, Tess...Batter Up!

JMO

As usual: WORD

I really hated that she never even hinted her hand in all of this but now that you mention it, yeah, she did start making a lot of things about her... but yeah, she seemed like she was at peace with herself about the events.

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Personally I think davis is to blame why because davis did kill him so why wouldnt he be to blame. Everyones saying its chloes fault thats like putting someone on trial for murder when everyone saw davis do it. It was a bad situation and jimmy got screwed in the end

There´s a diference between the person(s) responsible for a murder and the perpetrator, no one is asking who we think perpetrated Jimmy´s murder, the question is who´s responsible my answer is Chloe, Tess, Olliver and Clark (in that order are IMO the amounts of responsability).

Davis perpetrated the crime, but he ended up being a phsicopath and IMO he was not lightswitched into one.

If I give an 6 year old a loaded gun and he ends up shooting one of his friends or his little sister, he´s still the perpetrator, I didnt pull the triger but Im responsible cause of my poor judgement, you cant expect a 6 year old to know not to point the gun and pull the trigger as much as I cant expect a phsycopath to behave nicely, if I give him free reign of his actions.

[Davis Bloome]

He's been around Clark plenty of times and managed to stay in control. And he still seemed pretty sane in the fortress; angry but not 'I'm not in control' angry.

And beyond that, we've seen a very desperate Davis when Chloe wasn't around in Beast, so for Chloe to say she didn't love him must have been shattering.

To be clear, I think Davis did a remarkable job of keeping the beast in check for as long as he did, even if it forced him to resort to murdering criminals. That's why I think he deserved to be given a second chance. You are right about him being a very controlled person, but that self-control was clearly breaking in the end. When Chloe was telling Jimmy she still loved him with Davis laying there, I was waiting for Davis' outburst. I didn't quite expect him to kill Jimmy, but it did make sense.

The beast part being split from Davis didn't restore him to his former self. What was left could only have been a very damaged human being and Chloe was still his only support. When that support fell away... Tragedy.
I agree for most part, I don't think there's much point in discussing this further. Anyway I would just like to add, that Clark in case of anger is an exception to Davis. Tess said herself there was a reason they didn't get along. And I think for sure Davis gets faster angry around him than around any other person. So in the FOS, he already was under the influence of the beast, so it's no wonder that he was slightly angry.

[SpiritedDiva]

Davis would be in the Phantom Zone if ____ would not have manipulated Clark into making him believe that a Kryptonian killer did not belong in a Kryptonian prison.

Davis would not have been there to stab Jimmy if ____ had not stopped Clark from trapping Davis in the Phantom Zone.

Clark would not have been so dumb as to send Jimmy off with Davis if had not be swayed by ____'s way of thinking because Davis would be in the Phantom Zone and no where near Jimmy.

Davis would not have been there to be betrayed by ____'s word to Jimmy because he would be trapped in the Phantom Zone.

Now lets fill in the blank from the characters we have left:
Chloe
Shelby

First of all, Chloe didn't manipulate anyone. She gave her feelings on the matter. Even if she did, Clark allowed himself to be swayed. If you take a good look at Chloe and then a good look at Clark, do you honestly think Chloe could stop him. We are talking about an alien who could restrain her with one finger, it's not like she had kryptonite. Clark's a big boy, if anything he should have stood up for his stand on the matter.

I for one blame the murderer. Both Clark and Chloe had too much faith in Davis. Did they kill Jimmy? No. Could they have prevented it?- Most likely, though who knows if Davis would have stayed in the Phantom Zone to begin with.

To say that Chloe was at peace in the end is ridiculous. She was quite defensive with Clark when he mentioned who killed Jimmy. I think she felt partially responsible.

Anyway, everyone is equally guilty and equally innocent. Jimmy died under horrible circumstances and if everyone had just worked together instead of approaching the matter on their own-(Clark, Chloe, Oliver)things would have ended up a lot better.
Well, Jimmy would be alive. :)

[BadToad]

Clark's a big boy, if anything he should have stood up for his stand on the matter.

Yes, he should've, and I think this is part of whats caused Clark to reject his humanity at the end. He ultimately let his trust and friendship with Chloe sway him, and change his mind, and the end results were pretty tragic. I doubt very much Clark blames her at all. But I most definitely can see why he'd be feeling the need to put space between himself and Chloe.


I think she felt partially responsible.

I guess we'll need to wait until S9 to know for sure. Unfortunately, her sense of guilt or responsibility for what happened was ill defined.


Jimmy died under horrible circumstances and if everyone had just worked together instead of approaching the matter on their own-(Clark, Chloe, Oliver)things would have ended up a lot better.

I don't think Clark should be lumped in there. He would've worked openly and honestly with Chloe if given the chance...which he wasn't. As for Oliver, unfortunately Oliver is sort of unreliable and untrustworthy these days. Still, Clark was pretty upfront with what he was planning once he got the black-K. Bottom line, I don't think Clark is at all to blame for the "not working together" part. The people Clark expected to work together with sort of stabbed him in the back, hid things from him, and lied to him. JMO

[SpiritedDiva]

Yes, he should've, and I think this is part of whats caused Clark to reject his humanity at the end. He ultimately let his trust and friendship with Chloe sway him, and change his mind, and the end results were pretty tragic. I doubt very much Clark blames her at all. But I most definitely can see why he'd be feeling the need to put space between himself and Chloe.



I guess we'll need to wait until S9 to know for sure. Unfortunately, her sense of guilt or responsibility for what happened was ill defined.



I don't think Clark should be lumped in there. He would've worked openly and honestly with Chloe if given the chance...which he wasn't. As for Oliver, unfortunately Oliver is sort of unreliable and untrustworthy these days. Still, Clark was pretty upfront with what he was planning once he got the black-K. Bottom line, I don't think Clark is at all to blame for the "not working together" part. The people Clark expected to work together with sort of stabbed him in the back, hid things from him, and lied to him. JMO

I see. Well, I still think Clark is just as much to blame as the rest of them. Yes, he tried to throw him into the fos, which seemed a reasonable place. Though, earlier on Chloe was aware of Clark's attitude about killing Davis, he wasn't going to do it. Chloe was afraid that if he tried to extend his hand in friendship, Clark would have no chance of survival. Doomsday would kill him.

If he listened to Oliver about kiling Doomsday instead of using the Black k method, a person could argue that Jimmy would still be alive. Not saying I necessarily agreed with Oliver, just an example.

A person could go around and around about whose fault it is. You and I will probably never agree. Who had a part in it or how it could have been prevented is not the point.
It was a terrible tragedy. No one was aware that Davis by himself was a killer, but he was, and he killed an innocent person. If we are going to place blame let's put it on Brainiac, Zod, or even Doomsday himself.

Mistakes were made, but the murder was entirely on Davis' hand. Though, I never saw the Davis side psychotic, but that's for another thread.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree.

[WhoRU?]

As I see it, Davis lost reality and couldn't see that the Beast was gone and couldn't understand that he was still had all those damage emotions despite the split. The beast has no thinking, it was simply fleshy killing machine with no thought. Davis however has to bear the conscious guilt of all the terrible things that the Beast and himself has both been though. The killing and the rage was still left within Davis but after the split he just didn't have the abilities of the beast to live beyond mortality. The beast had the rage without thinking and Davis had the rage with thinking. Both was doomed.

[johnr90]

and i guess this makes you cool for going on your little rant on how chloe's mistake was not her fault yea okay. Is it really hard to admit that chloe was at fault? the excuses people come up with for her flabberghast me she made a huge mistake and now clark has to suffer for it.
are you seriously trying to say that it wasn't davis' fault? she may have made a small mistake, but we do every day. davis had the choice whether to kill or not. he did. you can't blame her for a freak accident that was indirectly caused by her. because the fact is, if anything else had gone slightly differently. I.E. they had just killed Davis/Doomsday instead of splitting him, or had kept both of his sides there where the fight happened, it would have happened differently. It has nothing to do with character favoritism. It's just cold hard facts. You can look the other way and blame someone else or you can just figure it out. It's not the end of the world.

[Angelina2809]

yes, chloe was the one who stopped clark from sending davis into the phantom zone. but (like clark) chloe also want to see the good things in everybody! she thought she could help davis. maybe because she had feelings for him?!?
IT WAS NOT CLARK'S FAULT!!!! NEVER!!!!
it is really complicated which fault it was! this whole situation was confiused!!!
davis had this BAD side inside of himself - he thought chloe would alsways be able to stop him to change in doomsday - but in the end it wasn't so. i am sure chloe is blaming herself too for jimmy's death! - like clark. clark is always blaming himself for things which goes bad. so, first at all chloe thought she had done the right thig as she choosed to believe in davis and in her power to stop him to be doomsday. second, davis is doomsday!!! that is a fact! but it was not his choice to be doomsay. we all saw how it maked him ill and angry to be someone who hurt and kill other people! he was afraid of himslef and also to go into the phantom zone - we all knwo what is happening there!!!
especially clark!!!!
but who would go into the phantom zone??? davis oder doomsday??? i mean would davis always be doomsday in the phantom zone??? or would it be like on earth - sometimes doomsday and sometimes davis??? do we know that?
maybe that was in chloe's and also in clark's thoughts too. who knows!!!
well, davis was doomsday but it was not his choice to be doomsday! he just wanted to have a good and happy life! but his destiny was something different!!!
the point and fact is that doomsday killed jimmy!!! here are many people who had chosse the wrong way for a moment so it is really not easy to say who killed jimmy!!!

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i hope my english is good enough!!! i am from germany and i watch the season 8 of smallville on youtube.

[Pantalaimon]

but who would go into the phantom zone??? davis oder doomsday??? i mean would davis always be doomsday in the phantom zone??? or would it be like on earth - sometimes doomsday and sometimes davis??? do we know that?
maybe that was in chloe's and also in clark's thoughts too. who knows!!!
well, davis was doomsday but it was not his choice to be doomsday! he just wanted to have a good and happy life! but his destiny was something different!!!
That is indeed one of the big questions. I think Chloe thought that the phantom zone would turn Davis into the beast, essentially killing Davis. This must have been why she objected and thought Clark would never be able to live with that decision. But of course we can't be sure. There are others who think Davis would have lost his powers in the phantom zone and therefore wouldn't change. I seriously doubt that, but it's a possibility.

What we should all keep in mind, though, is that this story was supposed to be a tragedy in the Shakespearean sense, which means that no matter what people do, fate ensures that the story ends tragically. I see a whole lot of difficult decisions made by various people with the best intentions go very wrong. It all started with Clark's decision to save Chloe. You can't really blame him for that. Most people would say it was the right thing to do, but if he hadn't things would have been different according to Rokk.

Because of that decision Clark Kent is now dead (metaphorically speaking) as Rokk foretold. And - this only just occured to me - that is the very reason Superman never emerged in the future Rokk describes. Kal-el never becomes Superman because Clark Kent died in Doomsday. In this line of thought Superman can only happen together with Clark Kent. So we already know where season 9 will go.

[Joe Kahn]

For the record, the person I choose in this poll was Davis, because he is ultimately the murderer.

But I just can't look at this situation, and not see Chloe's hand in this. IMO, she cannot be absolved, and she should not be. Of course she couldn't have foreseen what would happen, but she made so many bad decisions that I just think the disasterous end result should reflect on her. Not that its "all her fault", Not that "she killed Jimmy". But Dang, she most certainly was one of the great big factors in what happened. And because I found her choices to be so ridiculously moronic, its not like I can even explain them away by saying that she thought she was doing the right thing. Because dumping body parts in a dumpster will never be the right thing. And hiding an alien serial killer (at least some of the time) in your basement will never be the right thing. Leading that unstable being to believe that you "would do anything for him", and that you're willing to disappear with him, and then macking out on your ex in the same room as him will never be the right thing.

Davis killed Jimmy. No arguement. But I still believe Jimmy's blood is on a lot of hands, and yes, that includes Clark. Because if he had stuck to his own guns, and not let Chloe sway his judgement, all this might not have happened. And when Clark feels bad about it, and blames himself, he wins my sympathy there, because he's questioning his decisions, and he's feeling what any human being would feel...could I have prevented this?. And I don't understand why Chloe doesn't seem to be doing the same thing. I don't understand why Jimmy died professing love to Chloe, and freaking apologizing to her when Chloe couldn't be bothered to do either of those things for him. I think Chloe should feel really danged freaking bad, and yes, responsible, because thats the very real, human thing to do. And in that last scene, I saw a Chloe that seemed very much about...Chloe. "I lost everyone! Jimmy bought this place for me! Clark why didn't you come to me!" Who substitued Lana dialogue for Chloe's dialogue?

So, to sum up, Who is to Blame? Davis, first and foremost. But there's lots of blame to go around, and I'd like to see the major players own up to that. Clark has. Chloe, Oliver, Tess...Batter Up!

JMO

Great post.

Another way to look at this question is legally. I think Chloe is guilty at least of aiding and abetting murder. She knowingly hid a serial murderer. She helped him escape the law. She covered up one of his killings.

Lawyers could give us better insights than I about this. But my sense is that prosecutors would have a field day with her. btw, I believe aiding and abetting is a federal crime.

Morally, I felt Bad Toad described things real well. Chloe made an incredible number of bad decisions about Davis. When Clark was about to send Davis to the PZ, and Chloe prevented him from doing so, I almost gagged.

I cannot see Chloe as any kind of hero in this story. She apparently told Davis she loved him. For adults that usually means sex: the Doomsbaby spec does not seem unreasonable to me. If she hadn't taken any number of bizarre steps, Jimmy would likely be alive.

[Davis Bloome]

Personally I think that Davis would still change in the PZ into DD. However his strength comes from the yellow sun, so he wouldn't be as strong, cause his strength might be from Kryptonian origin and is affected by the Yellow sun, I don't think the transformation is, that's purely genetic I think.

[SGuthrie27]

Yeah, I bet you're probably right, Davis Bloome. Honestly, to play off what other people said, I think that you could peg multiple characters on this show as being guilty of major crimes that could be punishable by serious jail time at the very least, not just Chloe, and we know she did the bulk of what she did in this season to protect Clark. And I don't think she really does love Davis. Like she said in this episode, she briefly thought she did, but I think it was more of a Kryptonian fascination (she's always had a thing for "tall, dark, and alien" guys) and her perennial desire to "save" people that kept her near with him, along with the aforementioned Chlarky reasons. And I STILL can't believe that Chloe has MORE votes as being responsible for Jimmy's death than the person who actually RAMMED A METAL PIPE THROUGH HIS ABDOMEN!!! >:(

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[superman_reboot]

I voted for Shelby...I think off-screen this whole season Shelby has been barking at Davis telling him to take out Jimmy...mans best friend, but not Jimmy's I'm sorry to say :D

[LJ-90]

I voted for Shelby...I think off-screen this whole season Shelby has been barking at Davis telling him to take out Jimmy...mans best friend, but not Jimmy's I'm sorry to say :D

Oh, you see Shelby is behind all of this, just waiting for the second he can become the Iconic Jimmy Olsen...

He is waiting...

[superman_reboot]

Shelby will be back in season 9 with a bow tie and the minolta camera around his neck...you wait...you think the producers have changed the mythos, just wait and see....its James Bartholomew Shelby Olsen

[johnr90]

hahahahah I love it how the talk of Shelby always lightens the mood on the message boards. I MISS YOU SHELBY. Best she-male super dog ever.

[amberdawn]

James Bartholomew Shelby Olsen

:lol:

[SGuthrie27]

LOL... that'd be a totally new spin on the mythos. ;)

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[redheadluvgoddess]

Seriously? I mean, really? People think Chloe is more to blame than the man who actually put the pipe through Jimmy's torso? I can't even pretend to understand this logic, but okay, people have the right to think what they will.

IMO, everyone made mistakes this season. Every. Single. Character. Ultimately, though, Davis is the one who went off the deep end and killed Jimmy.

[wafflles87]

Ok, here's how ah see things. There are two MAIN guilty parties. Davis and Chloe.

Davis is first to be blamed, of course. He had a choice, to make the most out of life now that he was finally rid of the monster inside, or to continue down the path he started upon, without the possibility of using the monster as an excuse. He chose the latter, this we know. Now, it could be seen as a crime of passion. He was obsessed with Chloe, and when she ditched town with him, told him she'd do anything for him and all that jazz (which, btw, she can claim was all for Clark for ever and all eternity, I still won't buy what she's selling) he thought he had a chance at happiness with her. Then, he heard her say she did it all for Clark (LIES!!!) and saw her kissing Jimmy, so he lost it. Point is, I don't know if he did it because his monster side corrupted him, or because he was simply the kind of guy who solves his problems with a little murder here and there. In the end, he committed the murder. HE is the one who stuck the pipe through Jimmy, and no one held a gun to his head to do it, nor did he do it to control the monster (not saying that was ok, but still...)

As for Chloe? Well... she's not directly to blame, in saying that she neither committed the murder, nor did she encourage it (actively, like "Davis, KILL JIMMY!"). BUT, she is not without fault in all of this. First off, SHE is the one who drove Jimmy away. Sure, Jimmy overreacted a bit (just a bit), but he had every right to be angry. When your new wife believes some Joe Strange who she met a few months back over you, who she knows for years and agreed to marry... I'd think there's something wrong there as well. Then, of course, comes the harbouring of the serial killer (yes, he didn't have a choice, but killing is not cool, period). And don't even thing about going all "Chloe is so righteous" on me, cause I ain't buying them cookies. THE Best option would've been to go to Clark ASAP, tell him about the situation and work something out together. But, ok... let's say she was scared for Clark (I don't buy that, but for a second let's assume I do). She then lies to Clark's face over and over to protect Davis. Ok, moving past this as well, comes THE moment that made me say "Chloe's at fault. Big time." Clark finds Davis (despite her lies) and comes up with a great plan for all involved, except maybe Davis (you'll excuse me if that doesn't concern me much). Then, what does she do? Ignoring EVERY SINGLE WARNING she got, AND Every single sign that her plan has more holes than swiss cheese by ONCE AGAIN siding with Davis, AGAINST Clark. And, how does she do that? She goes to the Fortress, where apparently everyone can just walk in and out, and USES CLARK'S INSECURITIES AGAINST HIM!! I'm sorry but... WHO THE F*** are you to tell Clark how he'll be feeling, and how to deal with an entirely Kryptonian matter?? This resulted in Clark once again doubting himself (like he needed more ammo for that gun) and NOT doing the logical thing. Two episodes later, she separates Davis from Doomsday (without Clark around to at least attempt to stop Doomsday), claming she did what Clark wanted... yeah, WHAT?? Somehow, I doubt Clark wanted you to unleash the beast with no one around to stop it.

If this came off as hateful towards Chloe... sorry. I get riled up when even thinking about that... nevermind. BUT, everything I said is true, and y'all can't deny that.

[Davis Bloome]

I can agree with most what you said, I personally see the murder as OOC, but I do take what happened into account and it does seem like a crime of passion and it's not unlikely that after all the murder he felt forced to do, killing another who was innocent on contrary to the others, became more easy. I think he did it probably without much thought or planning. It seemed like a reflex to what Chloe was saying and with her kissing Jimmy.

[O'Neill]

All of them are responsible. They couldnt work as a team. Way too many emotions got in the way, and instead of becoming heroes, they became wimps.

Chloe crossed over to the dark side, even though she says she did it to save Clark...(which is a big load).

Davis is a monster..... period! No hope, no saving. He's a pile of goop that oozed out of a rock. Theres no human side there.

Shelby just hasnt been around.

Clark wimped out at the last minute and let Chloe just walk on in and stop him from throwing DD into the phantom zone. He just stood there like he didnt know what to do. He should have thrown both of them in there and been done with it.

Each of them share in the responsibility.

[justme_007]

why is not an option : PRODUCERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joe Kahn]

Shelby will be back in season 9 with a bow tie and the minolta camera around his neck...you wait...you think the producers have changed the mythos, just wait and see....its James Bartholomew Shelby Olsen

Shelby's hair is kinda red-colored. He's trustworthy. Man's best friend...Clark's best friend.

You guys are on to something!

[borednow]

why is not an option : PRODUCERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because that is obviously true, we are looking for the in story answer, *cough*Davis*cough* not the meta obvious answer, the person in charge of the story telling, of course they are at fault for just about everything, but that really isn't an interesting conversation now is it?

[supercatmom]

Chloe - If she had let Clark send Davis to the pz in beast then he couldn't have killed Jimmy.
She stopped Clark from sending Davis to the pz b/c she had feelings for Davis and could not stand the thought of him spending eternity there.
Telling Clark and Jimmey that she did it all to save Clark was BS.
First Chloe took Davis's word over Jimmy's in Turbulance and she saved Davis from the pz in Beast. Also she dreamed of kissing Davis in Beast.
These are not the actions of a person who loves only Jimmy and is protecting Clark.

[F..l]

chloe and davis
both are responsible ...

[abbaspice1]

For the record, the person I choose in this poll was Davis, because he is ultimately the murderer.

But I just can't look at this situation, and not see Chloe's hand in this. IMO, she cannot be absolved, and she should not be. Of course she couldn't have foreseen what would happen, but she made so many bad decisions that I just think the disasterous end result should reflect on her. Not that its "all her fault", Not that "she killed Jimmy". But Dang, she most certainly was one of the great big factors in what happened. And because I found her choices to be so ridiculously moronic, its not like I can even explain them away by saying that she thought she was doing the right thing. Because dumping body parts in a dumpster will never be the right thing. And hiding an alien serial killer (at least some of the time) in your basement will never be the right thing. Leading that unstable being to believe that you "would do anything for him", and that you're willing to disappear with him, and then macking out on your ex in the same room as him will never be the right thing.

Davis killed Jimmy. No arguement. But I still believe Jimmy's blood is on a lot of hands, and yes, that includes Clark. Because if he had stuck to his own guns, and not let Chloe sway his judgement, all this might not have happened. And when Clark feels bad about it, and blames himself, he wins my sympathy there, because he's questioning his decisions, and he's feeling what any human being would feel...could I have prevented this?. And I don't understand why Chloe doesn't seem to be doing the same thing. I don't understand why Jimmy died professing love to Chloe, and freaking apologizing to her when Chloe couldn't be bothered to do either of those things for him. I think Chloe should feel really danged freaking bad, and yes, responsible, because thats the very real, human thing to do. And in that last scene, I saw a Chloe that seemed very much about...Chloe. "I lost everyone! Jimmy bought this place for me! Clark why didn't you come to me!" Who substitued Lana dialogue for Chloe's dialogue?

So, to sum up, Who is to Blame? Davis, first and foremost. But there's lots of blame to go around, and I'd like to see the major players own up to that. Clark has. Chloe, Oliver, Tess...Batter Up!

JMO

I totally agree with you post, especially the bolded part (emphasize mine). Clark has owned up to his part...no one else has. Amazing how that worked, huh?




As usual: WORD

I really hated that she never even hinted her hand in all of this but now that you mention it, yeah, she did start making a lot of things about her... but yeah, she seemed like she was at peace with herself about the events.

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There´s a diference between the person(s) responsible for a murder and the perpetrator, no one is asking who we think perpetrated Jimmy´s murder, the question is who´s responsible my answer is Chloe, Tess, Olliver and Clark (in that order are IMO the amounts of responsability).

Davis perpetrated the crime, but he ended up being a phsicopath and IMO he was not lightswitched into one.

If I give an 6 year old a loaded gun and he ends up shooting one of his friends or his little sister, he´s still the perpetrator, I didnt pull the triger but Im responsible cause of my poor judgement, you cant expect a 6 year old to know not to point the gun and pull the trigger as much as I cant expect a phsycopath to behave nicely, if I give him free reign of his actions.

Perfect! Again, I agree, especially with the bold (again, I did it!)

See, if Chloe, Oliver, Canary and Impulse had some even half of the guilt that Clark did, if they had confess to THEIR part of Jimmy's (and others) deaths, then I wouldn't have such a problem with them.

But no, they want Clark to carry their guilt, lay it at his feet!

Clark needs to find some better friends. Where is Batman, Wonder Woman, etc. when you need them.

Notice, the members of the Justice League who were absent (Cyborg and Aquaman) are members of the Justice League who would had probably sided with Clark against Oliver (if they stayed true to their mythos counterparts), since they are seen as higher tier members of the the JL.

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why is not an option : PRODUCERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because, for good or for bad, the producers are always responsible.

I never understood why folks like to blame producers when something goes wrong, yet when things go right, they want to give credit to the CHARACTER.

Huh? I'm like this, if my fav character does something wrong, I will say so. If my fav character does something right, I will say so.

And right now, after this (S)TANK of an episode, my fav characters are sweet smelling to me.

[ox007]

IMO Davis and Chloe are both to blame, Davis was the one who actually pulled this off, but it was Chloe's blindness (or stupidity) that led tho this event, I don't know whether she's been smoking something with Davis or whatever - he was killing people all over the places they went, Davis even admitted it, but Chloe refused to see this, Clark's idea with the PZ was da best but she stopped him, and it led to the latter events. I don't know what she planned on doing - spend the rest of her life babysitting Davis? Even though she wasn't able to calm the beast anymore!

She chose Davis over Jimmy, not even apologising to Jimmy when it got obvious he was right all along and suddenly in this episode she chose Jimmy - lying to Davis all along, harboring him for no reason as it would appear? Letting him kill innocent people while escaping with him - where? Gimmie a break..

[alejandrita439]

chloe :o

[Vergon6]

Chloe and Davis are both responsible in their own way.

[christian_kryptonian]

It's technically Davis' fault but I blame Chloe for not just crying on the guy and healing him. For some reason she decided he wasn't worth it. STUPID

[Kneel before Zod]

It's technically Davis' fault but I blame Chloe for not just crying on the guy and healing him. For some reason she decided he wasn't worth it. STUPID
She seems to have lost that ability. Do you remember in Odyssey, she tried to heal Clark, but nothing happened? Anyway, it's Davis' fault, but Chloe and Oliver are both partly to blame.

[Sweetie]

Davis & Chloe are equally responsable.First Davis,he's the one who killed him out of rage & pure jalousie.
The problem that I had with Chloe is she knew she had living time bomb in her hands but,she wanted to play the hero all by herself.Of course,she could not predict Jimmy's death but,to reveal things infront of the guy in question was not the perfect timing.

[superman_reboot]

I actually think it's Clarks fault Jimmy dies. Afterall, lets not forget, it was Clarks idea to use black k on DD to split Davis from the beast. If that wasn't done, who knows if Jimmy would've died to begin with.