So Ollie was right!

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Honestly, I didn't think that what Ollie said about BlackK would have reprecusions like this!

He knew it was a terrible idea to use BlackK to kill Davis. I will not spoil anything, but Ollie's statement was 100% true.

Even with the monster gone, darkness lives inside him.

[Dyanara]

No Oliver was not right...it is still not his decision to play judge jury and executioner. Clark*Oliver killing Davis last week would have been wrong. Jimmy killing Davis was right, it was in self defense...not for something Davis did in his past or was going to do.
Second of all I am beyond pissed at Clark for thinking humans are evil because of what Davis did. Maybe it is because of my "God gave us free will" training from a young age, but that is what humanity is about imo. There is good and bad in everyone and we can not judge it all in generalizations like Oliver did or Clark is doing.

[Lexsghost]

Clark needs to start the bloodbath.

[O'Neill]

I think this proves that Oliver was right.... which is what some of us have been saying since Davis appeared as DD.

Clark turning on Oliver saying "You're not one of us" was very hypocritical. After all, Chloe killed that one guy in the hospital, yet Clark didnt get an attitude over that.

And its funny that people say that Oliver has no right to say who lives and who dies, yet certainly DD feels like he can decide and no one wants to stop him because of legalities of "judging".

If Clark and Oliver would swallow their pride and work together, more problems would be solved.

[amandaa125]

Yeah i kind of felt bad about thinking clark was right over ollie this whole time. It turns out Oliver was right about davis though.

[jpfort1957]

The buried bodys in the field were Davis kills..........not Doomsday!!!!!!!!!

[Dyanara]

Um lastime I checked Clark wasnt aware of what happened to Sebastian. And how exactly are you going to equate Doomsday to Oliver? I also believe everyone and their mother on this show was trying to find away to stop and get rid of Doomsday even Clark...that is hardly letting him kill without judgement. Oliver thinking he is god and that he has a right to play judgejuryexecutioner is going to get him into a whole lot of trouble. I truly believe he is turning into Lex.

[Odysseus]

Yup, Ollie was right. Davis himself was a psycho. I guess in retrospect the fact that he felt justified quietly killing all those people in the second half of the season and saying that they "deserved it" was a hint that the murderous tendencies weren't just Doomsday's influence.

[topping82]

The writers are trying to say Oliver was right. But they are the ones who are wrong. Apparently on SV there is no such thing as redemption. I'm just disgusted. Clark should have been right. Total lightswitch. Davis was always good.

[Faby]

YUP, Olli was right!

[Dyanara]

I dont necessarily beleive Davis was always good. I have never once said that he did not deserved to be punished for what he did, my problem with Oliver is his methods. There is a human justice system to deal with human crimes and Oliver wanted to ignore that system and just play God like with what he did with Lex.
Well Im not getting into this debate again, I had it last week and I still stand by what I said, Oliver is not god and his abilities and money does not give him the right to play God by killing Davis, Lex or parasite.

[Forney2414]

Oliver was not right. Clark stopped doomsday his plan would have worked if Oliver didn't get in his way. He didn't die because lois was off time traveling and not in the phone booth where clark was going to meet her. Superman doesn't just kill people/things. He only killed Doomsday in the comics because he was dying in the fight already and HAD to stop him. This Doomsday had a human side. Clark saved that side of Doomsday. Jimmy just happened to get the sort end of the stick because Oliver shot Clark with that arrow.

[Cogito17]

One thing I found curious about the ending scene was that Clark said something to the effect of "Oliver was right all along". Throughout the latter half of the season, they portrayed Oliver as turning "darker" (ie. killing Lex), and being in conflict with Clark as to how they should punish/kill criminals. The sense that I got was that Oliver was being portrayed as almost villainous and that in the end, Clark's way would be proved more moral. However, with what Clark said and the Justice League seemingly siding with Oliver, they seemed to go in the opposite direction. What did you think about this?

[Ella]

Clark is jaded but that doesn't mean that Oliver was right. Killing is never the right choice for Superman. What Clark tried to do in separating Davis and Doomsday was the right thing. But what Clark couldn't have predicted was that Davis was a cold blooded killer even without Doomsday in his system.

[smallvillerocks45]

Clark is jaded but that doesn't mean that Oliver was right. Killing is never the right choice for Superman. What Clark tried to do in separating Davis and Doomsday was the right thing. But what Clark couldn't have predicted was that Davis was a cold blooded killer even without Doomsday in his system.

I agree, and moreover, even when the JL tranquilized Clark, it's not like they could have stopped Davis anyway. Davis was transforming right in front of them and threw Dinah and Bart off of him like they were pieces of paper. Sure, Chloe separated the Beast from Beast Jr. (Davis), but either way, they were helpless to actually do anything significant. Davis was going to overpower them either way.

Oliver can't even begin to tell Clark - 'I told you so,' because his team lost control of Davis even when Clark wasn't there.

[Cogito17]

I agree with you, I don't think Oliver was right. I'm just surprised that they didn't write the story so that in the end Clark is the one saying to Oliver, "I told you so", not the other way around as it seemed to be in this episode. It was the opposite outcome of what I thought they would go with. I thought it would end with Oliver realizing that Clark was right, not Clark mistakenly siding with Oliver.

[vikingjedi]

I think its about humanity turning against Clark, including the JL. They all turned on him and even after he saved Davis, the human side killed Jimmy. IMO Clark might be even questioning Chloe after everything that has happened.

Clark is questioning who he is and what he stands for now, or at least his spirit is.

[alienkinfolk]

goes back to what prof. Fine told him in the barn...humans, can't be trusted.

[melissan02]

Heck yes Oliver's vindicated!!!!!!
He tried to warn about Davis' true nature, but the two C's refused to believe it!:mad:
Oliver deals in real world because he has to! His vulnerability spurs him to!
Now look what his unheeded warning has cost...Jimmy's life!:(

[LoD]

Clark is realizing he may need to temper his innate idealism with objectivity but, like all new converts, he's taking things a bit too far. Oliver was as responsible as any of them for what happened. If he followed his own purported code of ethics (kill for the greater good, etc), he would have shot Chloe when she tried to interfere. And, frankly, had he and Chloe not gotten in the way, repeatedly, Clark would have had the Doomsday problem well in hand. Clark needs not to be swayed so easily by his friends (because I think Chloe and Ollie acted like a pair of emotional bullies, tbh) but not take it to the extreme of social isolation, if that makes any sense.

Oliver tried to beat Doomsday his way and look what happened. I don't think the episode in any way vindicated Oliver's methods.

[jpfort1957]

Lex had nothing to do with GA's Doomsday death discision. It was for the good of the whole planet that Doomsday dies instead of everybody else. Doomsday was a lab created monster.........NOT HUMAN. Hats off to Green Arrow!!!!!!!!!

[latingirl]

I have the answer to why DD did not Kill Davis, JL guys??... if you see ALIEN the movie the Creature could FEEL the BABY QUEEN BEAST in the Ripley' Belly!!! this is the answer and Chloe like Mother Hen protected of them :o

[Kschreck]

Honestly, I didn't think that what Ollie said about BlackK would have reprecusions like this!

He knew it was a terrible idea to use BlackK to kill Davis. I will not spoil anything, but Ollie's statement was 100% true.

Even with the monster gone, darkness lives inside him.


Now we get Season 9: Emo Clark. Since Clark denounced his "Clark Kent" lifestyle, this means that CLOIS will likely also be put aside oh and maybe he will quit the Daily Planet to. These writers love regression!

[razta]

well?:rotfl: nearly every episode i think GA has been in.

[RaniaLovesClois]

So many times!!!!!!! Clark is such a BDA.

[Super Maverick]

turns out Davis was a creepy killer all along

[Hopefulsuicide]

Ollie wasn't right...

It's not like Oliver actually knew this was going to happen! Clark could have just as easily been proven right, and that's kind of the point.

We don't know the future, and we don't get to decide whether or not someone is worth the risk of saving.

Think about when Clark saves a plane full of people. There is a very good chance someone on that plane might end up killing someone. Maybe they beat their wife. Maybe they abuse children...

Superman doesn't pick and choose who to save on the plane, he saves everyone, and the death of innocents could be a result.

So Clark couldn't decide to not save Davis, just because he might go on to hurt someone. He had to try.

The reason Jimmy died was sheer stupidity on both his and Chloe's behalf. Why on earth did she think it would be OK to declare her love for Jimmy and kiss him in front of a man who has just been separated for a demonic alien beast?

I actually feel sorry for Davis, he had his chance at a normal life, but because he was crushed so shortly after such a horrific ordeal, he missed it.

[ClarkSupportsOrganic]

I think some of you are missing the point. Yes, Ollie was right about Davis. But like Dynara was saying, he doesn't have the right to decide who lives and dies. It's Superman's credo not to kill and Oliver is wrong to become a vigilante, esp. considering his own sordid past. I agree that Oliver is using a 'Lex-like' brand of justice.

Clark and Chloe should have come out right in the end: the fact that he didn't caused his dramatic emotional 'deadness.' So that's something he will have to work to regain next season. I think he will and his way will be shown to be 'correct.'

[O'Neill]

David had issues... even without DD inside him, which brings up another question....

How in the world are they playing it off now that Davis is human? Or at least has a human side??

First we see Davis as a pile of slime oozing out of a meteor, and now suddenly he's human.

Anyway, I still think Oliver was right. Sure, his attitude isnt the best, but you have to admit is funny how he is the one that usually comes to Clarks rescue, and he's the one Clark is always going to for help. Clark should be a little more thankful..... I thought superman looked for hope in people.

This show has so many flaws its ridiculous.

[skye4376]

as i'm thinking, clark's plan would have worked all along. think about it, if oliver would have let clark seperate doomsday and davis like clark wanted to do, then clark would have fought doomsday, put him underground and still would have saved davis. of course they didn't go by this plan, and yet clark ultimately still had to go by his own plan. what was the jla thinking, they couldn't contain davis from the beast at all, clark was right.