View Full Version : Where do we go from here? All season 9 talk
tras76
05-14-2009, 08:02 PM
Clark said he did not know how he got out of the hole where he put doomsday. Im thinking next season premiere we will get some answers cause i think Lois did something to change history and Clark had help getting out from who thats the question
Baron Karza
05-14-2009, 08:07 PM
Interesting theory.
Except you can't change history from the FUTURE.
Tebow15
05-14-2009, 08:10 PM
interesting
jesustlife
05-14-2009, 08:13 PM
Interesting theory.
Except you can't change history from the FUTURE.
We still don't know if she went there. I mean come 'on how do those stupid rings work? If you wear it on the left you go to the future, wear it on the right you go back in time? Maybe Lois came back and forth until...you know what, whatever. Never been very good explaining time travel theories...
tras76
05-14-2009, 08:14 PM
Interesting theory.
Except you can't change history from the FUTURE.
she can travel wherever she thinks with the ring so if she goes to the future and finds out something bad happened she can travel backward:p so there LOL
Lexsghost
05-14-2009, 08:16 PM
She has to know about clark now after the time travel........er wait this is smallville she will forget.
Superman of Krypton
05-14-2009, 08:17 PM
If Lois DID save Clark.... WHY IS SHE MISSING FOR DAYS AFTER THAT!???
Forney2414
05-14-2009, 08:19 PM
The better question is how did davis ram that pipe all the way through jimmy if he was human?
Superman of Krypton
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Because the show isnt scientific and doesnt try to be.
We still don't know if she went there. I mean come 'on how do those stupid rings work? If you wear it on the left you go to the future, wear it on the right you go back in time? Maybe Lois came back and forth until...you know what, whatever. Never been very good explaining time travel theories...
If Lois learns how to fly before Clark does, I'm never watching this show again...
Baron Karza
05-14-2009, 08:21 PM
When Cosmic Boy left Clark the ring he said it was set to ONLY go to the 30th century.There's nowhere(when) else Lois could have gone. And if the went there it's entirely likely that she knows Clark's secret now, yes.
Baum-El
05-14-2009, 08:21 PM
The ring was set with only one purpose - SEND WHOMEVER WEARS IT DIRECTLY TO 3009's Metropolis & the LEGION headquarters...
It's not like they handed her the keys to the Tardis here people. She was sent ahead in time - not a few years ahead - 1000 years ahead!
Baron Karza
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
This whole episode was Tardis.
(not a big Who fan, btw. Sorry)
ZODisGOD
05-15-2009, 01:12 AM
I lost interest in this show and nothing about tonight's episode is enough to bring me back in September.
I'm finally free!!! WOOOOOOOOOO! :lol:
davidbrenton
05-15-2009, 01:14 AM
Hell's yeah.
They'd have to replace all the actors with Socks and start calling Clark "Chuck" in order for me to stop.
smallvillerocks45
05-15-2009, 01:15 AM
Of course I'm watching. Good or bad (and I thought this episode was fantastic), I'm sticking with this show. My interest lies with Clark Kent, and his journey to becoming Superman... season 9, I can't wait.
OkiyaShuichi
05-15-2009, 01:15 AM
Although it's the worst season finale... BUT I WILL WATCH UNTIL THE END... After all, I have been watching this show for 8 years!!
Runestone
05-15-2009, 01:16 AM
I've been somewhat liberated from my Smallville addiction, considering I only watched about a third of Season 8... but I'll probably hang around to see how this trainwreck ends.
smallvillerocks45
05-15-2009, 01:16 AM
Hell's yeah.
They'd have to replace all the actors with Socks and start calling Clark "Chuck" in order for me to stop.
No kidding - they'd have to replace Tom Welling to make me stop watching, but since this isn't Dr. Who, I imagine that won't happen... so I'm blissfully stuck watching. I'm nothing if not loyal to this show... I can't help it. I just am.
itashy
05-15-2009, 01:20 AM
yep im coming back for season 9...been watching it for 5 years
devilicus rebel
05-15-2009, 01:21 AM
I will definitely watch to see if some of the BS they tried to cover up in the season finale gets explained.
Clark/Lois-fan
05-15-2009, 01:22 AM
I'll also be back for S9 :D
borednow
05-15-2009, 01:22 AM
... maybe... if I care enough to find out when it starts again... I'd only watch Lois episodes though...
Oh congrades on your freedom ZODisGOD
smallvillereporter27
05-15-2009, 01:22 AM
I always have a hard time explaining to my friends why I watch Smallville...and it just got a lot harder :lol:
But this was the first show I became obsessed with, the first show where I became invested in a fan community. Without it, I would have never became invested in so many other great shows...
I always told myself if Chloe died, I would be done, but even if she had died, I would be back...just as I will be next year.
dotsie23
05-15-2009, 01:22 AM
why not I started on this ride since it premiered in 2001 and I might as well see it come crashing to the end.
amalie
05-15-2009, 01:23 AM
Yes, but not nearly with as much affection for the show as I once had. I have a problem giving up on tv shows, even when they hit rock bottom.
Ellsbury
05-15-2009, 01:26 AM
Of course! They would have to kill both Clark & Lois to get me out!
Karafan1
05-15-2009, 01:27 AM
Yes I will..I'm hooked on this show and can't quit watching it now!!
xrayvision
05-15-2009, 01:28 AM
It will probably be by an episode by episode basis. When the show turns into the JLA show, I think I'll be done because that's when the show is no longer about Superman but instead turned into a conglomerate of other heroes that I really don't give a crap about. This show attracted me because it was about Clark before anyone or anything else. That has been eroded away and I can't take much more erosion of the show's focus.
I will definitely watch the premiere, but after that it will depend. The disrespect they showed the viewers after doing what they did with Jimmy's character was beyond despicable. I will not forgive them for that.
Kschreck
05-15-2009, 01:29 AM
I'll be back, don't know why I bother but a part of me still hopes that these useless producers will some how give us better storylines. I really want Clark Kent to become Superman at the Daily Planet but tonight's episode took a giant leap backwards. I will reluctantly keep watching. Smallville was my favorite television show ever up until this season. It's just hard to give up on it completely I guess! Only because of the fond memories of the past with the bigger budget and real writers. :(
Mrs. Superman
05-15-2009, 01:30 AM
It will probably be by an episode by episode basis. When the show turns into the JLA show, I think I'll be done because that's when the show is no longer about Superman but instead turned into a conglomerate of other heroes that I really don't give a crap about. This show attracted me because it was about Clark before anyone or anything else. That has been eroded away and I can't take much more erosion of the show's focus.
I will definitely watch the premiere, but after that it will depend. The disrespect they showed the viewers after doing what they did with Jimmy's character was beyond despicable. I will not forgive them for that.
ITA!!! And that is why I wont be watching as faithfully as I did this season. No more let downs for me. I'll probably catch the episodes after they air and get a sense of where the story is going, rather than be misled by what the producers want us to believe the story is going.
Mahir
05-15-2009, 01:33 AM
I currently own every box set of smallville, i will be buying series 8, 9 and 10 as well when there out, those producers are up to something!
Dominicus
05-15-2009, 01:35 AM
I'll be back for Lois, and for Clark specific episodes, and we'll go from there i suppose.
amalie
05-15-2009, 01:35 AM
I really am just going to be watching for Lois and Clark now, the rest of the characters can walk the plank for all I care. If it's an episode centred around anyone but one of those two characters then I probably won't bother.
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I'll be back for Lois, and for Clark specific episodes, and we'll go from there i suppose.
Ditto
crazy4clois
05-15-2009, 01:48 AM
I've stuck with it this long, might as well go all the way. Besides, I love Tom too much to not watch his beautiful face each episode. I've got a soft spot in my heart for Smallville, always will.
blink2matrix
05-15-2009, 01:51 AM
I'm a tad bit sad Lois didn't play such a crucial role this episode and just hope they fix this next season by giving her a more substantial role in the main plot.
either way, i will definitely be tuning in. season 8 is one of my favorite seasons for sure.
krpto
05-15-2009, 01:53 AM
haven't decided yet though I'll deffinately record it to watch later I don't know if I will be as obsessed to watch it live I might just record it and fit in episodes whenever until my excitement builds back up.
cloisornothing
05-15-2009, 01:54 AM
It depends if they can fix the mistake they made for Jimmy! But if Sam plays Zod, I'm here, if Clark wants getting closer of his destiny (training for example in the Fortress) I'm in, if the Legion is back I'm here, if Ollie (the true Ollie of season 6) is back I'm here.
It makes a lot of "if", but after "Doomsday" I'm quite pessimistic for season 9, I don't want a season 6 number 2.
ginnyfan
05-15-2009, 01:54 AM
If Clark Kent is there... Unfortunately yes.
Smallville Vamp
05-15-2009, 02:04 AM
I'm checking out the season 9 opener then decide from there...
Supsfan
05-15-2009, 02:06 AM
Personally I am worried about the second half of Season 9 if there is a Season 10, the first half will probably be good.
Luthor5339
05-15-2009, 02:09 AM
Definitely, as a "child of two worlds", it's going to be the most relatable and angst ridden season yet!
NinaDavis
05-15-2009, 02:12 AM
Yes, but I don't know why I torture myself with this cr*p after the Lost season finale.
definitely! I love the show and the actors in it. Tonight's episode is great btw. Can't wait for S9
Rhaspodel
05-15-2009, 02:19 AM
let me get back to you when the season premieres this September.
Mrs. Superman
05-15-2009, 02:21 AM
I really am just going to be watching for Lois and Clark now, the rest of the characters can walk the plank for all I care. If it's an episode centred around anyone but one of those two characters then I probably won't bother.
This is what it comes down to for me as well: Lois and Clark. I love Chloe too, but she is now one huge reminder of the Jimmy Olsen debacle.
amalie
05-15-2009, 02:26 AM
This is what it comes down to for me as well: Lois and Clark. I love Chloe too, but she is now one huge reminder of the Jimmy Olsen debacle.
I've completely given up on Chloe, I really just don't like her anymore :\
Kschreck
05-15-2009, 02:38 AM
I'm checking out the season 9 opener then decide from there...
HA HA a logical move! :p
cchriswake
05-15-2009, 02:42 AM
time jump or nothing.. :\
amberdawn
05-15-2009, 04:12 AM
Hell no.
alexjones50
05-15-2009, 04:21 AM
of course i'll be watching season 9, why wouldn't I?
amalie
05-15-2009, 04:25 AM
I'm so annoyed with the producers. Not only did they manage to completely ruin the season finale, Jimmy's character and the show's credibility, they've also managed to drive quite a few of my online friends away. KSite is going to be missing some characters from now on :(
Selina
05-15-2009, 04:35 AM
I'm so annoyed with the producers. Not only did they manage to completely ruin the season finale, Jimmy's character and the show's credibility, they've also managed to drive quite a few of my online friends away. KSite is going to be missing some characters from now on :(
I know. It's really hacked me of :( I don't blame the people from leaving the show and here. I'm just so annoyed that the shows actions have drove them to do this. Well done!:mad:
Jack-El49
05-15-2009, 05:25 AM
I'll be back for Lois, and for Clark specific episodes, and we'll go from there i suppose.
Agreed. Lois and Clark are the core of this show and should be. Whenever the rest are there, I'll probably record or pull it off iTunes.
I really am just going to be watching for Lois and Clark now, the rest of the characters can walk the plank for all I care. If it's an episode centred around anyone but one of those two characters then I probably won't bother.
Ditto!
I've completely given up on Chloe, I really just don't like her anymore :\
After this episode, I've gone from being really ambivalent about Chloe to hating her. Why? Because most of all the bad crap that happened has her fingerprints on it. Jimmy died because of her. Clark "died" because of her. Lois has disappeared because of her. Presumably others are dead/missing because of her insistence on saving the "good" Davis (who truly did not exist). After all of this, there will be no consequences for Chloe - just like there were never any consequences for Lana's actions - except that Lana did suffer her own life. Chloe will be online at the Watchtower console, telling everyone what to do. Isn't that a fine kettle of fish! :rolleyes:
I wish rather than Clark finding her at the end of the episode, she bumped in to him while he was searching for Lois. When she did, he should have simply said, "Stay away from me Chloe. You and I have nothing left to talk about." Of course, that would have implied that Chloe had actually searched for her cousin which, of course, she did not.
ElVibo
05-15-2009, 05:42 AM
Look the Finale could have been better but I think the only Finale(s) that were really good were S4&6 Finale. Don't judge a season based on it's finale. I mean look at S1 finale. Lana trapped in a car trapped inside a twister. That finale wasn't ground-breaking at all. Season 2 you had Clark leave to Metropolis on a bike with redk. Season 3 you had clark trapped by Jor-El to be reborn. If u look at it, Smallville's finales' arn't ground-breaking at all. Although I must say the Smallville's Season Premiere Episodes tend to do better than it's finales.
As for the next season, of course I'm watching it. Regardless of the finale this season was awesome!
redeem147
05-15-2009, 05:44 AM
I loved the finale, so heck, yes.
Minamostaza
05-15-2009, 05:49 AM
I thought I'll be finally free after the nightmare from alst night's episode but I can't deny I'm curious what happens next. I'll watch it for the same reason I was watching before: Chloe. I wanna see where they take her character for next season that might be the last for her if there is season 10. And what's up with Zod? I wanna see how that plays out, and Tess.
wafflles87
05-15-2009, 05:54 AM
95% no.
bigvillir001
05-15-2009, 05:55 AM
hell yes 9- 10 bring it on clois from hear on out
SGuthrie27
05-15-2009, 05:56 AM
I will most definitely be back. Even though I'm seriously aggravated by some of the plot and character moves that Smallville makes, I'm loyal enough to stick with it until it goes off the air.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
tmchale1970
05-15-2009, 06:15 AM
i`ll be back for season 9,i have watched it from day 1 through thick and thin.season 8 was not smallville finest hour but by september we will all be chomping at the bit to see what happens and for the people who say they wont be back, in a few weeks they will have simmered down and their love for the show will return.
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95% no.
see ya
Sports72Xtrm
05-15-2009, 06:25 AM
I'll watch it. For Lois and Clark.
roccanater
05-15-2009, 06:28 AM
Of course.
stenochick
05-15-2009, 06:29 AM
Heck, yeah!!!
More than likely...no. :(
I may stick around to hear news about the new season, but really at this point, only Lois could bring me back officially. If she's featured heavily, then I'll watch regularly. But if she gets her usual 13 eps then that's not enough for me. I may catch the series on DVD and not waste my entire year investing my hopes into this show only to be let down.
redkryptoniteisthebest
05-15-2009, 06:31 AM
Heck yeah, I will!
27CDruid
05-15-2009, 06:34 AM
I mean look at S1 finale. Lana trapped in a car trapped inside a twister. That finale wasn't ground-breaking at all.
I thought it was awesome actually.
Season 2 you had Clark leave to Metropolis on a bike with redk.
Not as big as expected but it was intriguing.
Season 3 you had clark trapped by Jor-El to be reborn.
It was a nice cliffhanger.
If u look at it, Smallville's finales' arn't ground-breaking at all.
Maybe but they sure are better than that muddled bit of rubbish on last night.
Will i watch next season? Yes. Even though i dumbfounded at the most recent episode.
Rival X The Great
05-15-2009, 06:34 AM
i won't be watching Season 9. Doomsday was my series finale. The only reason I'm staying on K-Site is for my fanfiction. And I won't be coming back to watch Season 9. I'm sticking to my word. I've said from the beginning Season 8 it will be my last.
roccanater
05-15-2009, 06:58 AM
Interesting.
Sports72Xtrm
05-15-2009, 07:03 AM
If Lois DID save Clark.... WHY IS SHE MISSING FOR DAYS AFTER THAT!???
Watch season 9 to find out:confused:
wafflles87
05-15-2009, 07:03 AM
The script must look like a cut and paste document, where paragraphs are missing key things, and the order of events is mixed up.
-Nora-
05-15-2009, 07:05 AM
That's an interesting theory. Clark was supposed to die that night. That's what Rokk said, nothing could stop Doomsday from killing him. So yeah, I also think that Lois changed something.
Supsfan
05-15-2009, 07:08 AM
Indirectly Lois did change history. When Clark came to fight Doomsday, he said where is Lois because she said she would meet him at the phonebooth at midnight. How big a factor she would have had if she was there is speculation
Exedore
05-15-2009, 07:10 AM
Interesting theory.
Except you can't change history from the FUTURE.
No you can't. But you can use the Legion's knowledge of the past to pinpoint the time when things went wrong and then use the ring to go to that point and change history. The Legion could have helped her do this.
Oops there I go again, building my hopes up. :\ Must remember not to do this anymore. :/
Carla89
05-15-2009, 07:13 AM
ah, now that would actualy explain perfectly why clark, despite rokks prediction, doesnt die. the fact that lois wasn't at the phonebooth where incidently at midnight doomsday was destroying the city, must have brought a change to the future.
i dont think that it's something lois does in the future that changes history, its the fact that she isnt present and thus the fight proceeds differently.
now only to understand why clark survives the blast...
Isabel14
05-15-2009, 07:17 AM
I have a question: woudn't cosic boy know that lois will take the ring if he comes from the future??than what is the point? I think the writers didn't think of it, they just put it out from nowhere.
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ah, now that would actualy explain perfectly why clark, despite rokks prediction, doesnt die. the fact that lois wasn't at the phonebooth where incidently at midnight doomsday was destroying the city, must have brought a change to the future.
i dont think that it's something lois does in the future that changes history, its the fact that she isnt present and thus the fight proceeds differently.
now only to understand why clark survives the blast...
Yep, that's a good theory...
Supsfan
05-15-2009, 07:18 AM
ah, now that would actualy explain perfectly why clark, despite rokks prediction, doesnt die. the fact that lois wasn't at the phonebooth where incidently at midnight doomsday was destroying the city, must have brought a change to the future.
i dont think that it's something lois does in the future that changes history, its the fact that she isnt present and thus the fight proceeds differently.
now only to understand why clark survives the blast...
Yeah I am not sure how important that is to the overall storyline, but they did go out of there way to have him mention it.
Red Arrow Kuczynski
05-15-2009, 07:21 AM
Maybe Clark didn't survive the fight. When he was walking away from Chloe, I thought I saw lights through his body. Of course my eyes might need checking, but I thought that's what I saw.
dijonaise
05-15-2009, 07:25 AM
this discussion is too complex. the simple answer is that she's gone to the future, and they will play with that for the first 10 episodes of next season. she will come back having no idea that clark is/was superman. she will hear about how the red/blue blur became superman and superman died, but no connection with clark will be made. she won't change anything. she'll just screw around in the future for a while, then return.
Joren DarkStar
05-15-2009, 07:26 AM
Anyone consider Clark might actually still either be buried with Doomsday or recovering in the Fortress?
And that "CK in Black" may well indeed just simply be the Eradicator?
ElVibo
05-15-2009, 07:30 AM
I thought it was awesome actually.
Not as big as expected but it was intriguing.
It was a nice cliffhanger.
Maybe but they sure are better than that muddled bit of rubbish on last night.
Will i watch next season? Yes. Even though i dumbfounded at the most recent episode.
I'm curious besides the fight what was rubbish?
27CDruid
05-15-2009, 07:41 AM
Well both fights (lois vs tess) were kinda rubbish. Killing off Jimmy was rubbish. The lack of explanation of how both Clark and Doomsday died is rubbish. Bart and the Black Canary were underused. She coulda tried to Canary Warf Doomsday. Rather than giving us a few moments at the start to settle in as is customary they have Rokk tell Clark he is dying then bugger off. Clark makes it really obvious to Lois that he is the RedBlue Blur yet she isn't even suspicious. He could have at least mentioned "I had to wait till the nerdy guy left." Davis killing Jimmy despite him posing no mortal threat(the only reason he has killed in the past). It seemed like a lightswitch personality change.
Injustice was a better episode.
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I could list more given a few seconds.
Kton4
05-15-2009, 07:45 AM
As a fan ever since the beginning. I will be back all season 9. BUT i hope its the last season!
RaniaLovesClois
05-15-2009, 07:48 AM
Although the season finalle was such a big disappointment.... I'll watch, but only for Lois and Clark.
Tompouce
05-15-2009, 07:52 AM
More than ever. I know many (many many lol)of you are disappointed but I am very curious to know what is the idea behind this finale. I mean Clark's "death", Jimmy really dead,...Does it mean we will see a CK more like in the Comics ? Older ? With his training done or what ? I really want to see that. Phoenix from ashes, that is my theory and I want to be there to know if I am right lol
ClarkSupportsOrganic
05-15-2009, 08:07 AM
I dunno if I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed the show this season more than I have since Season 5. So yes, I will be watching.
Baron Karza
05-15-2009, 08:33 AM
You know what? As somebody pointed out to me in another thread, Clark destroyed the Legion ring in a previous episode. Now that I think about it, I remember him saying that time travel was too dangerous an ability to have.
So... where did the ring Lois had come from? Was it indeed a Legion ring? Was it Lex's krypto-ring?
Wait... it couldn't be...? A green ring?
Nah! That would be just too awesome for this crapsheet show.
Isabel14
05-15-2009, 08:43 AM
Yep :) Lois and Clark are too important not to..
gameface25
05-15-2009, 08:44 AM
see you in September ZodIsGod
bennyjr123
05-15-2009, 08:47 AM
lol, after what i've been hearing this thread is such a relief. I'm so glad people aren't giving up on this show. i think we all know how the smallville roller coaster works by now. We go down for a little bit, but we eventually go up again.
Cogito17
05-15-2009, 08:52 AM
The season was good. The finale was decent, I think some people may be mistaking a disappointing episode for an all out bad episode. If this hadn't had the expectations of a finale, it wouldn't be as harshly criticized. With that said, I was disappointed in the finale, but I don't think it was bad.
I'll definately be back for season 9.
GirlsInComics
05-15-2009, 08:53 AM
No. Not going to be bitter about it but I've lost faith in any payoff on the elements I want to see, and I don't want to watch the inevitable ret-conning of when the show was actually good.
I'll take my season 1-5 DVDs, and a few of the ones from 6-8 and happily withdraw. If season 9 is a tour de force then I might come back and watch after it's finished.
DarkClone
05-15-2009, 08:55 AM
I've been watching since the very first episode aired . . . never missed one. I can't not watch what will hopefully be the last season.
crisprock01
05-15-2009, 09:14 AM
Clark turning his back on hummanity, and the resergance of Zod leave a lot of things open for season 9. Does zod and clark become allies (General Zod and Lietennant El), does zod ressurect doomsday, how long will it take clark to get out of this self pity crap, will lois learn clarks secret in the future, and where the hell is Jor El through all this? The finale wasn't what I expected, but I think season 9 has the potential to be one of the best.
BigTownsOveratted
05-15-2009, 09:14 AM
Heck yeah...the episode may have been very vague, but that just makes me want to watch season 9 even more...Hurry up Septemeber!!!!
Isabel14
05-15-2009, 09:14 AM
I think the people are dissapointed with the finale but they would want to come back to see season 9, because too many important factors are being in the game..
Einhauen
05-15-2009, 09:15 AM
I would be watching Season 9 but wouldn't be as obsessed with the show as before. Most likely I wouldn't be scheduling my time on Thursday nights around the show. If I am around then yes I would be watching when the show is on. Yet if I have other and better things to do like meeting a date for dinner or some other activity like a gym class, then Smallville will be put on hold since I can record it and watch it later.
Guidron
05-15-2009, 09:15 AM
Even though I was sorely disappointed with how they played out the finale for season 8, I'll still be watching season 9. I've invested too much in the show to walk away now.
CloisFan17
05-15-2009, 09:17 AM
Um yeah!!!! I am soooo excited for S9 & S10 you all know that I can't give up on my SV no matter what. I love it too much it's like a caffeine addiction hahaha
These Cliffhangers they gave us were awesome all we have to do now is wait :(
warriorrenegade
05-15-2009, 09:27 AM
I'm debating whether or not to watch anymore. With what they did with Jimmy and the seasonal arc of Davis/DD being a flop. What's left for them to mess up? Clarks a whinner, Chloe is untouchable, Lois is clueless, Jimmy isn't JIMMY, Davis/DD was a flop, Lex is dead and the JL is a joke. What?
RaniaLovesClois
05-15-2009, 09:34 AM
I have no idea...:confused: Only one thing is sure... We are going to see a very dark Clark...
quietone
05-15-2009, 09:34 AM
I'm addicted to Tom Welling so of course I'll be back! :)
9-SOSIHTWB
05-15-2009, 09:35 AM
I've been watching it for 8 years, I can't stop now!
It's an addiction, no matter how bad the episodes, I'll still keep watching!!
kkjdt
05-15-2009, 09:35 AM
I haven't decided if I am going to watch it.. I might tune in the first few weeks and hope they don't spend an entire season on Clark in a dark place... which is what i hear they want to do i am just hoping they change there mind... we already had that a few times and he really needs not to go there! Actually what I think I will do is check spoilers and see where they are going... Smallville has been one of my favorite shows but this season was not one of my favorites. Not horrible a few episodes I really like but it is just not like the first few years with bright Clark saving the day that is what drew me into the show. the awsome realtionships especially Clark and Chloe relationship. Also the family unit was great.
wildcherryx-
05-15-2009, 09:36 AM
I know everyone is entitled to their opinions and all, but this season and the finale were GOOD episodes! Think back to eps like 'Bride', 'Committed', 'Stilletto' HOW anyone can say this was the worst season is beyond me =S
The only reason in my opinion that fans are kicking of about the finale is because they were expecting a big fight with doomsday&Clark and the whole clois scenario. =S
If the writers had included all this, fans would STILL find somthing to complain about - things happen for a reason on this show good and bad, so if people are going to slag of the show then why are they here?? =S
.x.
Jack-El49
05-15-2009, 09:39 AM
i`ll be back for season 9,i have watched it from day 1 through thick and thin.season 8 was not smallville finest hour but by september we will all be chomping at the bit to see what happens and for the people who say they wont be back, in a few weeks they will have simmered down and their love for the show will return.
I agree. I will be back because I want to see what consequences Chloe faces for her actions in Season 8 and to watch Lois return and reconnect Clark to his humanity. That will be worth the watch, for certain.
tyson08
05-15-2009, 09:41 AM
Of course, I'm extremely excited for these questions to be answered! I have faith!
Billy Jor-El
05-15-2009, 09:43 AM
People seem to have a lot of (negative) issues with the finale. I happened to like it, though will re-watch for further, uh, study (heck, I had to rewind the final scene to realize "ZOD"), but you betcha I will be there for S9. SV still remains the only show on commercial channels I will watch other than news and late night talk shows. I bounce off the walls for this show, and expect to continue to do so ;)
jobookjunkie
05-15-2009, 09:44 AM
Yup, I'll be there!
zorasuperman
05-15-2009, 09:44 AM
i'll watch it if it features superman and lois def
but if it has more green arrow and JLA then i'll prolli end up doing homework like i shuldv been doing all along LOL
but yea if its too much green arrow or other ppl besides clark or RBB then nah i'll prolli pass
costas22
05-15-2009, 09:44 AM
I will definitely be back. But i am not hopefull with the current duo at the helm.
SnowBird
05-15-2009, 09:48 AM
Yes, I will be watching and I'm sure I will enjoy season 9 like I have the last 8 years of Smallville which is a fantastic TV series.
BadToad
05-15-2009, 09:49 AM
As long as Tom's there, I'll be there.
But I can't say I don't understand why people won't be back. The show more then earned that reaction, IMO.
latingirl
05-15-2009, 09:52 AM
I will definitely be back. But i am not hopefull with the current duo at the helm.
I am like you... I am more intrigue than before about how they are going to develop the show... And personally as a Clois' fans for my own sanity I wont waiting for a Lois&Clark Love fest.... But as a superman fan can be Great watch that finally Clark is embracing to follow his destine.... I hope so does not happen like first episode on season 5 that he stops his 5 min training in FoS to help Chloe and Lana :eek::eek::eek:
Slight Return
05-15-2009, 09:55 AM
I'd like to say I wont be watching, but I already know I'll be back.
mangotango
05-15-2009, 10:13 AM
I honestly don't think so, since PS obviously think I'm an idiot who'll actually accept this garbage.
andyb1989
05-15-2009, 10:21 AM
Yeah a lot is left up in the air, but they love doing that! so we spend 4 months wondering whats going to happen
Mrs. Superman
05-15-2009, 10:29 AM
I honestly don't think so, since PS obviously think I'm an idiot who'll actually accept this garbage.
And that is exactly how I feel.
I wish I didnt love the characters so much because this writing does not deserve my time! The characters are what keep me watching, but of course they chipped away at that with Jimmy's death.
KryptonChick
05-15-2009, 10:41 AM
It pains me to say it, but chances are i wont be watching much next season.
Iluvgreen
05-15-2009, 10:42 AM
The show got freaking sweet just barely! I have the whole next season mapped out!
darkraya
05-15-2009, 10:43 AM
im coming back for season 9. there is nothing that could make me stop watching this show exept, ****** cable or if they replace tom welling for antony angerson!!!and alison makc for tara reid!(they change the title for shitville instead of smallville)
basicly if things get worse , like it they dont respect the superman mythologie , just like they did in the finale, then , i will probably stop watching. but until then (god forbid) im still hooked.
natbug
05-15-2009, 10:45 AM
It will probably be by an episode by episode basis. When the show turns into the JLA show, I think I'll be done because that's when the show is no longer about Superman but instead turned into a conglomerate of other heroes that I really don't give a crap about. This show attracted me because it was about Clark before anyone or anything else. That has been eroded away and I can't take much more erosion of the show's focus.
I will definitely watch the premiere, but after that it will depend. The disrespect they showed the viewers after doing what they did with Jimmy's character was beyond despicable. I will not forgive them for that.
The bolded part is what I agree with. The rest would make me unhappy, but I would still watch since this literally is the only TV show I watch!
I only heard of SV, in passing, as a trailer on a DVD my kids were watching. I thought: Clark Kent, superheros, scifi, fantasy, I love this stuff - check it out. Got the DVDs at the library, I was hooked.
Also, I've been out of touch with TV shows since about 1992, so I have no idea if other shows did/do SFX the way SV does. Therefore, the SFX and the cinematography is what ended up hooking me. There is an artistic, painterly quality to the show that, as an artist, I find quite inspiring.
dreammaster
05-15-2009, 10:50 AM
yes I will be coming back next season the finale rock
Kevin24
05-15-2009, 10:53 AM
Yes I will definitely be back. The finale was awesome and so was the fight however short it was.
As for all the people saying they won't watch next season. See ya later
I don't know if I care anymore after that horrible season finale. Maybe just a couple episodes if I'm bored. Maybe I will start watching Supernatural.
Alicia Chipy
05-15-2009, 11:02 AM
As a rabid Superman fan in all forms of media since 1961,I will watch until the end.
But it irks me when ceatain events are hyped up,and then the writers don't deliver.
I think the actors,TW,ED & AM in particular try their hardest to give us quality shows,and I for one, truly appreciate that!
I will, but only because of Tom and Erica. I'd have said Aaron too, only they killed off his character. I have no good feelings about all of this.
I_am_LEX
05-15-2009, 11:18 AM
I have a question: woudn't cosic boy know that lois will take the ring if he comes from the future??than what is the point? I think the writers didn't think of it, they just put it out from nowhere.
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Yep, that's a good theory...
Time travel and time lines are always confusing. Rokk said himself that each time you go back you run the risk of altering the future. So when he came back to give Clark the ring, it must have altered the future in a way that he didn't know what was going to happen. I think the only reason they can understand it is because they are alien and the time shifts on earth must effect them differently. I don't know really, it's always crazy with time travel, especially going backwards. Forwards isn't really an issue though. I think Lois went to the future, and she'll be brought back by Rokk or one of the other Legion members. She will know about a hero named Superman but won't know it's Clark. She got the name from the future and takes it back with her & then when he shows up, she's already got the name for him. I don't know, I'm just rambling now.
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It's almost like an alternate earth scenario.
KryptonChuck
05-15-2009, 11:27 AM
You know what? As somebody pointed out to me in another thread, Clark destroyed the Legion ring in a previous episode. Now that I think about it, I remember him saying that time travel was too dangerous an ability to have.
So... where did the ring Lois had come from? Was it indeed a Legion ring? Was it Lex's krypto-ring?
Wait... it couldn't be...? A green ring?
Nah! That would be just too awesome for this crapsheet show.
Um ... Cosmic Boy gave Clark a new Legion ring in the being of the episode on the Daily Planet roof.
cesarofflorida
05-15-2009, 11:27 AM
In theory, time travelers if they effect the past and change their "present" when they return to the "present" and things are different, they will be the only ones to notice.
I think that Rokk may have been cryptic with Clark, after all he did say that Clark Kent was no more and that tomorrrow was the day Clark Kent would die. In a way it did come true, remember Clark said that Clark Kent was dead. Maybe Rokk was trying to get Clark to save his human side and not just outright reject it as he did in the ending.
Regardless of anything else, the Legion was founded on the example of Superman and his heroic legacy. So if the Legion are still around, then it stands to point out that Superman was still around. Maybe the Clark Kent death comment from Rokk was about not loosing his humanity.
Anyway thats my 2 cents
FlashInSV
05-15-2009, 12:22 PM
I'll watch S9 to see how on earth will Lois return and if it still captures my attention, I'll keep watching it.
smallville_is_awesome
05-15-2009, 12:23 PM
Hell's yeah.
They'd have to replace all the actors with Socks and start calling Clark "Chuck" in order for me to stop.
Me toooo!!;):D
Liquid-Prince
05-15-2009, 12:28 PM
Obviously. People are overreacting. This was a pretty good episode.
smilingalways2
05-15-2009, 12:34 PM
I'll still watch because of Lois and Clark. Now if they turn around and tell me she's not THE Lois Lane...$&^$&^*...but I doubt they'll go that route again...:eek:
disciples of zod
05-15-2009, 12:45 PM
absolutely! i HAVE to know what happens next!
~H
marcella
05-15-2009, 12:49 PM
Hell yeah, if I kept watching after AoS, why not after this finale?
Lauren_17
05-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Unless I die, I'm watching Smallville until the end.
Selina
05-15-2009, 12:53 PM
I'll watch but it's for Lois and Clark more than anything.
I dont expect much now though. I'm going in to next season expecting the worst just to avoid disapointment.
disciples of zod
05-15-2009, 12:53 PM
we are going to go into a very dark pit of despair as we are plagued with twenty million questions all summer. meh.
~H
rep4clark
05-15-2009, 12:54 PM
i lost interest in this show and nothing about tonight's episode is enough to bring me back in september.
I'm finally free!!! Woooooooooo! :lol:
you will be back, the cravings will start sometime in mid summer, trust me we are like heroin addicts with this stuff and you know how i know you will be back, because you made it this far for a reason that means you are addicted just like the rest of us.
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Me and my brother used to run down the street taking turns to wear the red cape and pretending to be superman, of course i will watch anything thing pertaning to the all time greatest hero of our nation and watch the all time love romance between lois and clark.
Ellsbury
05-15-2009, 12:56 PM
I have no idea...:confused: Only one thing is sure... We are going to see a very dark Clark...
And I just love it! Dark Clark / Kal-El is so much better than this poor farmer always sorry for himself...
ZODisGOD
05-15-2009, 12:57 PM
For the few who doubt I'm actually going through on my word, I'm serious about the part about not watching season 9. There's nothing I want more now than to see Smallville sufferring. Don't worry though, i'll drop by from time to time.
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you will be back, the cravings will start sometime in mid summer, trust me we are like heroin addicts with this stuff and you know how i know you will be back, because you made it this far for a reason that means you are addicted just like the rest of us.
For the upcoming Fall 2009 semester, I purposely registered for a college science course(that I need to graduate) that takes place on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 7-9:30pm, to help me stay away, at least half the season. I don't have DVR and the VCRs are in the attic. I'll buy the DVD only if I hear it's as good as Season 2,3,5.
I don't know if I consider myself a long time fan. I watched the first two seasons, skipped almost all of season 3 and season 4, got back into it at Season 5, skipped half the episodes of Season 6, then watched season 7 and and sadly 8.
interstellar
05-15-2009, 01:08 PM
I'll watch it, but I'm not excited about it anymore.
Liquid-Prince
05-15-2009, 01:08 PM
For the few who doubt I'm actually going through on my word, I'm serious about the part about not watching season 9. There's nothing I want more now than to see Smallville sufferring. Don't worry though, i'll drop by from time to time.
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For the upcoming Fall 2009 semester, I purposely registered for a college science course(that I need to graduate) that takes place on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 7-9:30pm, to help me stay away, at least half the season. I don't have DVR and the VCRs are in the attic. I'll buy the DVD only if I hear it's as good as Season 2,3,5.
I don't know if I consider myself a long time fan. I watched the first two seasons, skipped almost all of season 3 and season 4, got back into it at Season 5, skipped half the episodes of Season 6, then watched season 7 and and sadly 8.
Then you're not a very good fan are you?
The Red Aaron
05-15-2009, 01:10 PM
not sure yet. Erica plays the perfect Lois in my opinion, and if they have some serious Lois mythos going on next season, I will watch.
ZODisGOD
05-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Then you're not a very good fan are you?
well...used to be...not anymore
HowardFilms
05-15-2009, 01:20 PM
Clark turning his back on hummanity, and the resergance of Zod leave a lot of things open for season 9. Does zod and clark become allies (General Zod and Lietennant El), does zod ressurect doomsday, how long will it take clark to get out of this self pity crap, will lois learn clarks secret in the future, and where the hell is Jor El through all this? The finale wasn't what I expected, but I think season 9 has the potential to be one of the best.
Oh the hummanity! :lol:
Iluvgreen
05-15-2009, 01:25 PM
Clark is gonna be Superman next year.
mangotango
05-15-2009, 01:39 PM
And that is exactly how I feel.
I wish I didnt love the characters so much because this writing does not deserve my time! The characters are what keep me watching, but of course they chipped away at that with Jimmy's death.
You know, I was never the biggest Jimmy fan, but recently he was starting to get interesting. It's disappointing that they would just throw away his character like this.
Tompouce
05-15-2009, 02:16 PM
I agree. I will be back because I want to see what consequences Chloe faces for her actions in Season 8 and to watch Lois return and reconnect Clark to his humanity. That will be worth the watch, for certain.
Exactly, especially my Clark/Phoenix hero. Just come back, things can be better, you will see...;)
And as someone said previously (sorry, I forgot the username)people are now totally upset but in few weeks, we will be all (almost) there:)
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I dunno if I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed the show this season more than I have since Season 5. So yes, I will be watching.
It seems we are at least 10 to like the finale:rolleyes::D
Vindellavon
05-15-2009, 02:32 PM
Hell yes. Chloe lives, Lois went poof, Jimmy's six feet under, and Clark Kent is dead. Funny, everything I wanted, I got. :D
Saber
05-15-2009, 02:55 PM
Well ending the show gracefully or on a high note is out because that needed to be done a few seasons ago, so um yeah I would watch season 9. I’ve just lowered my standards for the show and rate it on a curve. Plus the show has disappointed me but not ticked me off to the point of no return. So I’ll be back next season hoping for the best of anything.
(Thx goodness TW is cute other wise I would’ve had a different answer, I love that face.)
jasmin28
05-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Obviously. People are overreacting. This was a pretty good episode.
i liked the episode too and i'm interested to see what happens to Lois, JL etc etc. why stop now when eventually you'll give in to just see what's happened to the characters.
Davis Bloome
05-15-2009, 03:03 PM
As much as how I despised this episode, I still think it was a great season and I can only look hopeful to the 9th! Besides I'm more of a Sam Witwer fan than a Davis fan, so if he comes back to play Zod, I'll surely be there to support it.
Mischael12
05-15-2009, 03:06 PM
I'll have organic chemistry at night during that time...unfortunately it also means I'll be missing part of supernatural :(
LostSonoK1000
05-15-2009, 03:10 PM
You better believe I'll be there for next season. The more I think about it, the more I realize how brilliantly planned out this entire season was. If this season was any indication of what's to come, 9 will be fantastic!
skylar
05-15-2009, 03:23 PM
Smallville will always be one of my favorite shows and I will watch next season
because i have to know how it will end.
jasmin28
05-15-2009, 03:28 PM
Exactly, and despite the lana arc, season 8 was very well written, especially the first half. it will be interesting to see what the writers do next season.
Marissa
05-15-2009, 03:29 PM
I will. Although I totally disagree with Jimmy's death.
kryptonhero25
05-15-2009, 04:00 PM
After that garbage fight between Doomsday and Clark, we don't really know the fate of Doomsday and we all just assume that he's buried a mile underneath the earth so I really hope that Doomsday comes back for at least the S9 premiere or episode 2 because the producers and writers owe it to the us fans who were deceived into thinking we were going to get an actual epic battle. They better do something along these lines and have a decent 5 minute fight but I think I'm being too optimistic and hopeful because we will most likely be let down again.
6-Super-Man -5
05-15-2009, 04:03 PM
I think he'll come back, for a real fight, maybe Season Nine, or Ten, but he will come back.
Boycott SF:Movie
05-15-2009, 04:38 PM
Hmmm. If I know there will be a 10th season I probably won't care about 9.
zanaamen
05-15-2009, 04:55 PM
I love this show I became obsessed with, so even there would be 20 season I will watch it
morphs
05-15-2009, 04:58 PM
I loved this season finale and season all together. I'll definitely be tuning in for next season. This could have been a horrible season and I'd still watch Smallville.
kari916
05-15-2009, 05:02 PM
I started watching at the near end of season 3 and I watch reruns of the start of the series so I am going to watch how it ends.
6-Super-Man -5
05-15-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm still up for Season Nine and Ten!
rajman
05-15-2009, 05:05 PM
One way or another people will watch season 9, they will want to know how it ends, if its the last season
alejandrita439
05-15-2009, 05:06 PM
yes, i will watch it :)
cant wait september :p
Starscream
05-15-2009, 05:44 PM
unfortunately....
Clana4Life
05-15-2009, 06:00 PM
Sure, I'll watch it. Fix the big mess you made with making Davis a crazed monster who would kill Jimmy and bring back the real Chloe. I hereby dub this wishy-washy Chloe as clone-Chloe. If you can fix that, then I'm happy to watch.
ColdPlay3r
05-15-2009, 06:02 PM
yeh, they might have killed a lil something something but, yeh ill still watch it
Bruce Knight
05-15-2009, 07:04 PM
yes, to see what happends to clark hes the only reason i watch it now , becuse ive watched from the begining and im gonna stick through it and see what becomes of clark, the other charcters dont matter to me they can die for all i care
kg1507
05-15-2009, 07:10 PM
YES!!!!
Violet-Shadow
05-15-2009, 07:45 PM
Nope. I will no longer watch.
mizchloe
05-15-2009, 07:49 PM
of course! i love this show even if the finale sucks.
Raina
05-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Yes, I'll be back. I may not have like everything about the finale but I love most of the characters. But a small group of my friends got me into the show and now, I'm the only one left who watches it.
AgentChaos
05-15-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm not the type of viewer to give up on a show after only one season of live watching. Since Chloe survived, I will definitely be back for next season.
Darth Pipes
05-15-2009, 08:20 PM
I'll watch the premeire. When I'm home on a Thursday night, I enjoy watching Smallville. But I can't promise I'll stay for the long-term. After the very disappointing Season 8 finale and the decision to recycle the Zod storyline, my hopes for Season 9 are not very high. I'm tired of Clark's neverending supply of angst.
If they really want to keep Smallville going for another two years, then it's time for Clark to become Superman. Period. But all we'll get is angst, angst, and more angst.
Boycott SF:Movie
05-15-2009, 08:24 PM
I don't think I care about Clark anymore. It doesn't seem like the story is going anywhere.
We all know Clark won't even come close to thinking about becoming "Superguy" til at least two years. So what does it matter what happens to him in Season 9?
Here's my prediction for S9.
Trouble arises, Clark makes excuses, Clark saves the day, Chloe dies.
Here's my prediction for S10.
Trouble arises, Clark makes excuses, Clark saves the day, Lois dies but Lex clones her and that Lois is the "real" Lois. Clark opens up his jacket to possibly reveal "the suit" but
instead he's wearing a "Old Spice: Swagger" t-shirt.
We should all stick it to the writers and not watch the Season Opener on TV but instead watch it online. Or just wait for the re-runs. That'll show em!
itashy
05-15-2009, 08:28 PM
i was thinking and wasnt the casting directors looking for a wrestler to play doomsday in season 9? kinda hard if hes buried underground right? and if zod took over davis's body he wouldnt be doomsday...basically my point is maybe doomsday comes back in season 9,teams up with zod and we finally get the clark vs doomsday fight we wanted...i know its a long shot but even if the casting directors didnt cast the wrestler,it still shows that they are looking for a guy...and seeing how many people got fed up with seeing no fight...you can bet they wont do that again...it sounds like a broken record but i can see a clark vs doomsday for the mid season break...i hope this message restores some faith into people...because just because we think the clark vs doomsday fight is over..it shows the producers may have other ideas...
Boycott SF:Movie
05-15-2009, 08:30 PM
Clark vs. Rey Mysterio as Doomday!
rej@ne
05-15-2009, 08:32 PM
Hell's yeah.
They'd have to replace all the actors with Socks and start calling Clark "Chuck" in order for me to stop.
I´m totally with you in this!!!! I´ve been watching this show since the beginning and there´s noway I´m gonna stop watching it! I´m a huge fan of CK and Lois Lane so YEAHHHHHH I´ll watch season 9!
LJ-90
05-15-2009, 09:52 PM
It will probably be by an episode by episode basis. When the show turns into the JLA show, I think I'll be done because that's when the show is no longer about Superman but instead turned into a conglomerate of other heroes that I really don't give a crap about. This show attracted me because it was about Clark before anyone or anything else. That has been eroded away and I can't take much more erosion of the show's focus.
I will definitely watch the premiere, but after that it will depend. The disrespect they showed the viewers after doing what they did with Jimmy's character was beyond despicable. I will not forgive them for that.
Same here, I'll watch the premiere and probably see the episodes whenever I can...before this season I wasn't a fan, if it was on tv I saw it, I wasn't chasing the show...now I'm back to being free.
I'll probably buy the DVDs...just to see how this all ends.
Btw x-rayvision, they didn't just disrespect the viewers, they also disrespected the actor, so I'll never forgive them for that.:mad:
LuckyLois
05-15-2009, 09:54 PM
wild horses couldn't tear me away!
PepsiMax
05-15-2009, 09:54 PM
I will be watching it but I'm not excited whatsoever. I feel that there is more of an obligation now since I own the previous 7 seasons and have ordered season 8. I have to watch or I'll just stomp the crap out of those DVD's. Plus I really wanna see what happens to Lois...she's the only one worth watching for now!!
Shadowlord367
05-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Being optimistic, I think #9-1 will put the events of the finale in perspective.
SpitCurl
05-15-2009, 10:21 PM
It's just too tired. You had 22 episodes to build up Clark and DD for a decent fight. You blew it. It would just be so anti-climactic to have them fight in S9 when this is the moment everyone was waiting for. What are they going to do to hype it up?
"No, for realz this time, it's, like, EPIC, AND STUFF! No really. Stop laughing! We're super, super cereal you guyz!" Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
Besides, I think by now it's safe to say that Smallville has no idea how to stage an actual fight. Clark would just tackle/throw him once like he always does.
LJ-90
05-15-2009, 10:37 PM
It's just too tired. You had 22 episodes to build up Clark and DD for a decent fight. You blew it. It would just be so anti-climactic to have them fight in S9 when this is the moment everyone was waiting for. What are they going to do to hype it up?
"No, for realz this time, it's, like, EPIC, AND STUFF! No really. Stop laughing! We're super, super cereal you guyz!" Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
Besides, I think by now it's safe to say that Smallville has no idea how to stage an actual fight. Clark would just tackle/throw him once like he always does.
:lol:
Smallville has no idea how to stage a fight, I mean I could stage something better than that...and you know what? Check this video till the end and you'll see a cool low-budget fight that put Smallville (and Dragon Ball Evolution) to shame.
The vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF4MX0N9lnM&feature=related
smallvillereporter27
05-15-2009, 10:47 PM
Being optimistic, I think #9-1 will put the events of the finale in perspective.
I hope so. :\
As one who wasn't completely devastated by this finale, I have to say that if I can make through entire seasons of Lana-drama then certainly I can survive this sub-par season finale. (I know many were deeply offended by this episode, but I actually wasn't offended by the episode itself. I'm offended that TPTB shafted almost the entire fan base :rolleyes:)
I survived eight seasons of this show, so I feel obliged to see it through till the end.
Jedimaster_TTBaby
05-15-2009, 10:50 PM
YES! It SUCKED, but I'll be back because i want to see some clois and flying.
SVfan87
05-15-2009, 10:56 PM
i'll be back. smallville has become my baby. but i think it's almost time for this baby to move out. it's exhausting me being so emotionally tied to the characters and the twists and cliffhangers for 8 yrs now. Going on 9 and maybe 10? And it is starting to feel like they're just dragging it out. I want smallville to have a proper ending. Not for it to end because people got tired or the stories got old.
ManOfSteel87
05-15-2009, 11:00 PM
Matt Morgan, a beast in his own right, was in talks to appear on SV and the idea was that he would be Doomsday although I don't know if that part was confirmed or not. The only this confirmed was that they want(ed?) him to appear on the show. But I agree, SV doesn't know how to stage an epic fight scene. The Lois/Tess fight was the best fight all season, and that's sad when you have Clark and DD going at it. But yes, Matt Morgan is the wrestler who TPTB talked to about being on the show in season 9, and the popular opinion was that he would play DD or maybe even Darkseid, although at this point I have no faith in either of those being on the show right now.
clois-destiny-forever
05-15-2009, 11:14 PM
I haven't lost interest in the show. I'll be back for season 9. After this finale, you have to hope that there's better stuff in the future. There will be more Clois and I'm totally there for that.
jazzylg
05-15-2009, 11:16 PM
They just dropped the ball. 22 minutes of footage in a 1hr "season finale". The 38 minutes of commercials and the extra long chloe/jimmy davis scene was pathetic. :mad:
Maria1023
05-15-2009, 11:19 PM
I'm totally done with this show. Never has a show disappointed me so much and it is NOT because Jimmy died. We have Davis, who in every episode except this one was a kind and understanding person until the season finale where he turned all fatal attraction on everyone. Then we have Chloe, who returned to her Chlo-Bot, everything I do is for Clark personality. Lois is in the future. yeah real interesting development there. Where was the fight between DD/Clark? I must have missed it..10 seconds of crap. Tess/Lois had a better fight. The JLA did not need to be there at all. They were useless.. Then we have the Clark deciding that the human side is evil and not his kryptonian side. Boo Hoo.. Let's revolve season 9 around Clark's guilt and self-loathing. Chloe could live in her little tower that Jimmy,(who BTW tried to steal money from Chloe b/c he has none) had bought her. He must have robbed a bank for that down-payment huh? . NOT INTERESTED..at all in season 9..
ZOD? really? Aren't there any more characters in the DC universe that Smallville can destroy?
I am all for Sam Witwer playing ZOD but I will have to hear about it from you guys..
Sorry to sound so fed up, but I am..
My Thursdays will only be for Supernatural now..Those writers know how to create a season finale..
SpitCurl
05-15-2009, 11:21 PM
:lol:
Smallville has no idea how to stage a fight, I mean I could stage something better than that...and you know what? Check this video till the end and you'll see a cool low-budget fight that put Smallville (and Dragon Ball Evolution) to shame.
The vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF4MX0N9lnM&feature=related
Wow, you're right. How sad is that? I'd say that the choreography on this show plays out like fan-fic, but I don't want to insult the fans that way :cool:
Baron Karza
05-15-2009, 11:31 PM
Um ... Cosmic Boy gave Clark a new Legion ring in the being of the episode on the Daily Planet roof.
Actually, I missed the first maybe 15 minutes of the show. And now I regret not missing the last 30 minutes as well.:(
126TCYGA
05-15-2009, 11:36 PM
that's what chole meant when she said she knew what killed Jimmy... Davis was never human no matter how you try to split him.
itashy
05-15-2009, 11:39 PM
yea matt morgan...but it still shows they have an idea to bring doomsday back,or maybe some fantasy fight in clarks head where they can do anything and have him wake up and be back to normal...because i doubt they ll screw up doomsday being buried to line up mythos...
LJ-90
05-15-2009, 11:40 PM
We still don't know if she went there. I mean come 'on how do those stupid rings work? If you wear it on the left you go to the future, wear it on the right you go back in time? Maybe Lois came back and forth until...you know what, whatever. Never been very good explaining time travel theories...
:lol:
JustWriter
05-15-2009, 11:45 PM
Yes, I'm going to watch season 9. For me, season 8 got me back into Smallville. My interest had dwindled in season 7 so I had to go back and watch those episodes so now I know that the weapon to control Kal-El has been unleashed. HELLO PEOPLE! That's what they said the orb was a season ago, remember? Maybe that's why he said, "Clark Kent is dead," because he no longer has any control and CloneZod was giving him a chance to say goodbye or something.
-jw`chan
xrayvision
05-16-2009, 12:12 AM
I doubt it. If Clark didn't die in the hole like Rokk said he would, I think the person we saw talk to Chloe at the end was the Eradicator. In the comics, the Eradicator had Superman's memories, but they were fuzzy. He had to make excuses to Lois about things he couldn't remember and said he had to remain as Superman and was no longer Clark (just like the person talking to Chloe said at the end of the episode).
Imzadia
05-16-2009, 12:33 AM
YES, Absolutely, I'll be watching! I will Always be a Loyal and faithful to watch it Smallville fan. I liked "Doomsday" much more than I liked "Arctic" and I was there when Season 8 premiered. I loved this season and it's become my Favorite of all seasons so far. Smallville is one of only a handful of TV shows I've become emotionally attached to and addicted wouldn't be too strong a word to use describing how I feel about it. I don't understand everything that TPTB tried to do with this Finale, but IMO, it proved to be a Pivotal experience in Clark's JOURNEY. I know it may be 'just me', but I felt the change, which is a good 'marker' to me as what would qualify as a 'good' Finale.
Hache123
05-16-2009, 01:14 AM
Lex was Zod's vessell!!! maybe they bring him back.... no??? A Superman without a Luthor.....
Of course I'll watch the 9th!!!
Darkside
05-16-2009, 01:22 AM
I have a feeling the premiere will right the wrong doings of this season finale and explain more throughly Clark, Tess and Zod, Lois, Chloe, and Doomsday. Obviously, the Henry James Olsen fans (wasn't one of them) will still be bitter.
I thought it was okay but I wish the fight would have been like Clark vs Bizzaro and Clark vs Titan. Other than that, yes, I will still watch.
Exedore
05-16-2009, 02:13 AM
I have a sinking feeling that they will show Lois being the one who reset the timeline. In one timeline Clark did in fact die that day like Rokk said. Then Lois, with knowledge and perhaps technology from the future, travels to just prior to the death and does something that saves/revives Clark. But Clark himself is knocked out or something and he doesn't exactly realize how he survived. Lois hides herself for some reason (or maybe she is temporarily dead or in coma or lost in time coz something else went wrong). In the end, Clark lost all confidence in himself, decides to cut off all his ties to humanity, ignore his mother and go into seclusion. :rolleyes:
Kschreck
05-16-2009, 02:17 AM
Clark said he did not know how he got out of the hole where he put doomsday. Im thinking next season premiere we will get some answers cause i think Lois did something to change history and Clark had help getting out from who thats the question
He said he didn't know how he got out. I am quite certain Clark is alive.
Exedore
05-16-2009, 02:36 AM
Even more of a sinking feeling: what if they pull a "Nero" with Lois and have her change the history of the show and create a completely new reality? Remember they killed AA's character to align with the mythos. What if they decide to wipe out the Kawatche stuff from history to align with the mythos? Maybe Lois emerged during the time of the first season. And then....oh my!
CoolGuy182
05-16-2009, 02:35 PM
So you've probably noticed that at the end of Doomsday Clark was acting strange. My theory is he took black kryptonite and split himself apart. Thats why he seemed to have no emotions. The other side of him (the human side) is still out there somewhere. What do you think?
Davis Bloome
05-16-2009, 02:43 PM
We already had that Clark split in two. There are already enough unoriginal ideas going on, doing something like this would only make it worse.
Terryfranklin
05-16-2009, 02:49 PM
Here is my theory..... I remember reading the comics when i was younger and i remember the eradacatior taking over clark, how he was cold and emotion less. I wonder if the orb is accually the eradicator. The Doomsday fight was too easy, there has to be more to it. I cant wait for Season 9!
wafflles87
05-16-2009, 02:55 PM
Here is my theory..... I remember reading the comics when i was younger and i remember the eradacatior taking over clark, how he was cold and emotion less. I wonder if the orb is accually the eradicator. The Doomsday fight was too easy, there has to be more to it. I cant wait for Season 9!
That's what I'm hoping for. I hope that wasn't our Clark, the real Clark. I hope the real Clark is still in those collapsed tunnels where he took Doomsday.
However, my hopes have been squashed by this show so much, I have lost all faith they'll do something like that.
Dor el
05-16-2009, 02:59 PM
Plus, whe Martha split Clark apart from Kal el way back when, where did the Kal el part go? He wasn't still within Clark's essence was he? If not, how could Kal el be split off form Clark again?
rogerufo
05-16-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm just curious about what others may think about the future direction smallville should go in. I understand that many of the writers visit the forum to see what people think, so I think that we should let our voices be heard. I know the future is going to be "Lois and Clark", but what will the tone be? Personally, I liked the tone that Smallville began with - a little more fun, and not so dark. I do not want to go back to the old Cain/Hatcher version, which while it had its moments, was mostly played for laughs. Somewhere between old Smalleville and the Chris Reeve version. Seems like we are headed more toward "The Dark Knight" in atmosphere. This works for Batman but I don't think is necessary for Superman. Any thoughts?
wafflles87
05-16-2009, 03:38 PM
I agree that SV is not supposed to be so dark. If they keep it on this path, Bruce's life will seem like a breeze when compared to Clark's.
liana
05-16-2009, 03:55 PM
I have a feeling they don't really "get" Superman, or that they don't really like him. Superman is supposed to be light not dark.
Supsfan
05-16-2009, 03:57 PM
I agree that SV is not supposed to be so dark.
Superman or any Superman story should not be so dark, Smallville on the other hand.....
As for SV itself, I have always wanted a toned down story, where Clark comes accross a happy well adjusted guy who just happens to save the day. It's the main reaon I like Lois, most her episodes where she is featured with Clark have a lighter tone to them. It's the reason I can get more entertainment value out of an "filler" episode like Spirit then some "melodramatic" stuff like Promise that I don't find get the idea what makes a good Clark Kent story.
Chloe Bloome
05-16-2009, 04:01 PM
I think they are trying to match up with todays common psyche. People do tend to like dark and gritty these days so they are trying to put that into Smallville, not make it light and cheesy like the 90s superman take.
Supsfan
05-16-2009, 04:13 PM
I think they are trying to match up with todays common psyche. People do tend to like dark and gritty these days so they are trying to put that into Smallville, not make it light and cheesy like the 90s superman take.
They can still tone the show down though and not make it cheesy. Not everything has to be tragic, which seems to be this show's moto.
wafflles87
05-16-2009, 04:15 PM
They can still tone the show down though and not make it cheesy. Not everything has to be tragic, which seems to be this show's moto.
I don't think their puny brains can comprehend what you just said. To them, dark means "people die. people get hurt. clark blames himself for WW2, the extinction of the Dinosaurs and the cancellation of Farscape"
Spirit Detective
05-16-2009, 04:17 PM
Smallville's future direction belongs in the hands of DC Comics. DC Comics wants their superheroes to go darker (with the success of The Dark Knight), so Clark Kent will go darker.
wafflles87
05-16-2009, 04:22 PM
Smallville's future direction belongs in the hands of DC Comics. DC Comics wants their superheroes to go darker (with the success of The Dark Knight), so Clark Kent will go darker.
But there's going darker, then there's going a lot darker, then there's the Greek tragedies, and THEN comes what SV did.
rogerufo
05-16-2009, 06:45 PM
It seems like previous attempts to get darker with Superman haven't worked in the past. They tried that in one of the Christopher Reeve movies and it bombed. "Superman Returns" tried it and had mediocre box office returns. Smallville has tried it, and the ratings have progressively gone down - although there may be other reasons. Personally, I thought the early Smallville had a good balance and worked well. My objection is that the dark tone is unrelenting.
Timester
05-16-2009, 06:48 PM
Smallville's future direction belongs in the hands of DC Comics. DC Comics wants their superheroes to go darker (with the success of The Dark Knight), so Clark Kent will go darker.
Oh, they really want to make it dark, they are making a major zombie event with many of their superheros. :lol:
ManOfSteel87
05-16-2009, 06:52 PM
Smallville's future direction belongs in the hands of DC Comics. DC Comics wants their superheroes to go darker (with the success of The Dark Knight), so Clark Kent will go darker.
In fact, I read somewhere before that when the new Superman reboot gets going, it will be much darker, and compared to Batman Begins/The Dark Knight in terms of darkness and grittiness. Big mistake in my book, but what do I know?
sweetsam_7
05-16-2009, 07:03 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
That's what I'm hoping for. I hope that wasn't our Clark, the real Clark. I hope the real Clark is still in those collapsed tunnels where he took Doomsday.
However, my hopes have been squashed by this show so much, I have lost all faith they'll do something like that.
darkraya
05-16-2009, 07:08 PM
im hoping that the clark whe saw at the end of the episode wasent the real clark, but my hope is very slim.
if theyre gonna do ****** storylines, im gonna go with the bizarro theory on this one!:rotfl::eek::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
pibegardel
05-16-2009, 07:11 PM
In the previous episode didn't the voice coming from the orb say something about Kandor? Couldn't the orb be the Smallville version of the bottle city?
prodigykane
05-16-2009, 07:20 PM
We already had that Clark split in two. There are already enough unoriginal ideas going on, doing something like this would only make it worse.
We finally agree on something lol
Phantom X
05-16-2009, 08:15 PM
in the comics after doomsday and supermans fight they both die, and seven versions of superman show up, one being a robot, and i also think there was one where lex had created a clone, who was kinda evil, someone birngs clak bsak from the dead, and when he recovers comes and kills the clone.....i missed the ending tho of the show,another thing i dnt get, doomsday wont die, he's just trapped what if he can climb out, i mean he is reli strong,
Mrs. Superman
05-16-2009, 08:54 PM
But there's going darker, then there's going a lot darker, then there's the Greek tragedies, and THEN comes what SV did.
:lol: I dont know whether to laugh or cry, but that is so true. :(
lm1212
05-16-2009, 08:57 PM
I'll definitely watch, I mean, C'mon, I'm pissed, but it isn't that serious. Based on this poll, Smallville lost more than 15% of its fan base? OUCH.
attitudejc
05-16-2009, 09:06 PM
I have a few things about this episode and the ones to come next season.
Granted, this season finale wasn't the best, but, like most people have said, I think it will all be explained in the premiere. I think Lois is going to have alot to do with almost everything that happened (that was important). And with Clark not knowing how he got out of the hole, thats big. Because I think that either 1) clark finds lois in the future and goes back to save himself or 2) something way cooler that I can't think of. Either way, it'll be cool I think.
And about next year? I hope its not focused on Lois and Clark the whole time. They bore me most of the time and there are only so many things you can come up with between two people who aren't even dating. We are not in highschool anymore people.
So really, its my only wish that Lois and Clark don't become the main point of next year....
I wish I had better ideas for next season. But heck, I got four months to think about it...
mty09
05-16-2009, 09:14 PM
I have a few things about this episode and the ones to come next season.
Granted, this season finale wasn't the best, but, like most people have said, I think it will all be explained in the premiere. I think Lois is going to have alot to do with almost everything that happened (that was important). And with Clark not knowing how he got out of the hole, thats big. Because I think that either 1) clark finds lois in the future and goes back to save himself or 2) something way cooler that I can't think of. Either way, it'll be cool I think.
And about next year? I hope its not focused on Lois and Clark the whole time. They bore me most of the time and there are only so many things you can come up with between two people who aren't even dating. We are not in highschool anymore people.
So really, its my only wish that Lois and Clark don't become the main point of next year....
I wish I had better ideas for next season. But heck, I got four months to think about it...
ARE YOU SERIOUS????? They are the two stars of the show, and they are the only people who are keeping the series alive. W/o them bonding next year = cancellation. Looks like you're a Chloe fan, she's the reason this show had the lowest ratings in smallville history! Do the math other than Bloodline (Kara's farewell), Committed (Heavily Clois themed episode) was the 2nd highest rated episode of the whole season! So since you don't want Clois to happen, then Smallville will be over. AND 90% percent of all the complaints I read about this show was the lack of Lois and Clark.
UltrarodimusP
05-16-2009, 09:41 PM
Fortunately I read the spoilers and the wikia article on what happened in this episode before actually watching it. It helped me not to hate the episode as much as I thought I would. The hype was gone and in reality the episode/series/season is not a complete loss. We can still put a band-aid on this. This is one thing TPTB MUST listen to, otherwise its spelling doom for the show. It can get an early cancellation and ruin the whole story of smallville. The truth is the whole thing can be redeemed in season 9. And in reality, they kind of screwed up the finale to the point that we will need a season 10, particularly because they put so many filler episodes that are unnecessary.
Let me bring up a few points here:
The first half of the episode was great. The second half was good, but it started losing me after JO found out that Clark was the RBB. From then on it felt rushed and it took a potentially devestating turn. It also seemed that it used so many crappy story idea's to create some really cool scenes that were not really necessary. In reality, good shows such as 24 use a different approach to season openers and finales. They don't make the episodes only an hour and they dont use Filler episodes. For smallville, I would say that at most 4 filler episodes are needed in the next season while the rest need to concentrate on story arcs. Also, the season premiere needs to be two hours (Together, not split) and the same for the season finalle. This allows for a better explanation and also makes sure that the story is not rushed. In my opinion a season finalle could even be a two parter of two hours each. So episodes 21 and 22 can be the finalle or you can have it be episodes 19,20 be part one of the finalle and episodes 21,22 be the second part. Finalle's cannot be rushed through to the point of where we are asking ourselves "What just happened? Man I am pissed!"
I want to mention the good points/bad points (Some paralleled with the bad) of the episode. Perhaps TPTB can learn from this.
1. Rokk coming to talk to Clark was good. Not great. But good.
Bad thing: How did Rokk communicate with Clark? He should have just surprised Clark at the barn, the way it normally happens.
2. The orb Disappearing- Again it didn't add anything crucial to the story other than to promote the Tess/Lois fight. They could have fought just over the fact that Lois broke in and saw Tess' interogation video. The orb could have broken out at the end of the episode.
3. The letter from Clark to Metropolis... GREAT TOUCH! That was a great letter. It gave some more depth to who Clark is and it really showed us why he should be the hero he eventually becomes. It shows how much he has grown and also how much he takes after his adoptive parents.
4. Lois getting on Clarks case about Chloe-- I didn't like that. Lois should have known Chloe went willingly with Davis. Also, since Clark took a bullet for her, she should be a bit nicer. And knowing how much Clark cares about everyone she should not have assumed that Clark didn't care.
5.- Lois and Clark Phone booth discussion. Classic. That was a great look into the future Superman and Lois relationship. The one thing I want to question is: When did Clark print that letter?
6. The overall bickering of Oliver, Clark and the JLA. It was unnecessary. Essentially they were all going to do the same thing anyway in the end: Kill the beast. Why was it such a big deal for them to Split them? Also, dont they know DD is undestructible? So Davis would be undestructible. I thought they figured this out earlier in the season. Atleast Chloe, Dr. Hamilton or Clark could have told them that. So why all the bickering? And I think in the end Clark and Oliver all of a sudden trusting each other was just to easy. I think the bickering should not have been there, or atleast it should have been based on something else. Perhaps it should have just remained an issue over the fact that Oliver supposedly killed Lex Luthor and thats it.
7. Listening to Black Canary's audio message. What the heck? Eaves dropping, security camera's... Do any of these things exist in Smallville? Clark could have used a headset to listen to it rather than listening to it outloud where Tess could have heard. It could have also been encrypted so that only Clark could here the message, much like a dog could hear a dog whistle. Or she could have called on his cell phone. That would have been secure as well. That is one gripe I have with the series in general. Clark does so much stuff that so many people SHOULD have seen him do either by being caught on security camera's, being hacked into his computer or being seen in public. They need to put an end to that in Smallville. Discretion should be taken.
8. Lois fighting Tess and disappearing. Ok, I'm curious. It seems interesting. I am pretty sure Lois is in the future with the legion. After all they told CK with the original ring "Just put it on and it will do the rest". So I am betting she is in the future being surrounded by a bunch of legionaires who probably think she is Doomsday. Curious. It should be fun to see what happens with that. My fear is that now they are actually going to turn Chloe into Lois, which that ship sailed a long time ago. So please, TPTB, DONT DO THAT!!!! Bring Lois back. We will do something else with Chloe. What I really liked about the scene though was how Lois disappeared. I honestly thought that TPTB where gonna have her fight Tess, fall on the floor and then see a ring and be like "OOOOOH what this?" and put it on. Instead they atleast made her hold it on the tip of her finger, which is what I would have done if I were her in that situation. So kudo's for that little detail.
9. How did the JLA knock out Doomsday? If he is invulnerable to things, wouldn't he be like Clark? I dont think Impulse would have been able to knock him out like that. I wish they would have thought of something else and I wish that they would have shown some more detail to how they captured them. Again, a two hour episode would have fixed this problem nicely. It would have given us more understanding, rather than having us feel like the whole thing is bogus.
10. Even though I knew what was gonna happen from reading the episode recap before watching it, I had goosebumps at how Jimmy found out that CK was the RBB. That was awesome! The look on JO's face was priceless. The interaction was epic in my opinion. It would have been an interesting twist in this version of Superman for Jimmy to know Clark's secret. I dont know why, but I really really liked that part.
11. The CK/Doomsday fight... Well, it was ok, but it wasn't what I would've expected from the episode. First off, there were so many effects you could have pulled off to improve the visuals but without going crazy on the budget. Dimming the lighting a little more, some slight CGI modifications to DD's face and body (Like they did with the car that was thrown at Clark) could have helped too. Again, a two hour episode would have really added to this fight so that it could have been increased time wise. They could have elaborated a little more on what the outcome of the fight was. I dont think Doomsday is dead personally, just trapped. I have a feeling he will be back next season and of course the Clark/Doomsday death fight will be done later on in Superman's career. I hope anyway.
12. The Watchtower scene. I loved it up until Davis killed Jimmy and vice versa. After so much emotion has gone into smallville from the fans POV, this was a total jip to us. We are all lead to believe that Davis would be a good guy seperated from DD. Everything we believed was thrown out the window. Jimmy dieing was just heartwrenching. He was a good character and should have continued till the end and beyond of the series.
13. The funeral was touching. I did not like the little Jimmy thing. Why bring AA in at all? Sorry DC, you screwed up. TPTB, get some more balls and stand up to these guys next time. You really screwed up. This isn't star Wars. You cant retcon something like this in a live action tv show with something that stupid.
14. The whole Zod thing is interesting. I am pretty sure that the guy with the orb is not Zod, but he is trying to summon Zod. From the looks of it it seems that TPTB are leaving who that guy is open. He seemed to have a bald head like Lex, but his body seemed like Davis'. I am anxious to see what this turns out to be. TPTB, READ THE FORUMS and DONT SCREW THIS UP!!!!
What exactly was catastrophic about this episode? A few things, TPTB are destroying Chloe. Bad idea. Don't do this. You will get as much grief on this as with the whole Jimmy thing. Redeem her to the girl we knew her to be and loved. Dont make her into another Lana. The Jimmy reveal, that was utter crap. This was the single worst decision in Smallville history. Probably in all TV history. If not the worst, its up there. Davis being a psycho was also a big OOPS and totally destroyed his character development over the past season. Truthfully though, all this can be remedied. Season nine can provide you with some good opportunities to fix what was done, redeem Chloe, and fix the general Story line. DC, TPTB... You dont need to align everything with the original mytho's. Just consider Smallville an alternate reality. So what can be done to redeem smallville? Here are the musts:
1. Bring Bruce Wayne. You wont confuse anyone. You will still make your money with other franchise stuff. It will only boost Smallville ratings. Bring him in. Dont screw up his character. Keep him close to the BW of the JLA cartoons.
2. Bring in Booster Gold. Recently many fans have been asking for him. Again, keep the concept the same as above.
3. Zod. It seems we are going to have Zod next season. Fine whatever. Keep him for no more than half the season.
4. From the second half of the season, we will need Intergang, Darkseid and Bruno Manheim.
5. Turpin and Maggie need to be in it more.
6. Bring back Parasite.
7. Let Impulse have a second alias of the Flash.
8. WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU MUST CONVINCE MICHAEL ROSENBAUM TO RETURN TO THE SHOW. EVEN IF ITS JUST A FEW EPISODES AND FOR THE SEASON/SERIES FINALLE.
9. Somewhere between episodes 15 and 18, Clark needs to learn to fly. You can't put this off anymore. It must be done. Do it. He doesn't need to fly in every episode, but your dragging this way too much now.
10. Get Kara back and conclude the story in a better way.
11. This may be tough, but get some more Guest stars for the show. I know some cant be done. BUT TRY!!! Try these people: Mark Hamill, Teri Hatcher, Gene Hackman, John Shea, or Brandon Routh, James Marsden, Patrick Stewart, etc... These guys will boost ratings, believe me.
12. Brainiac must come back.
13. Bizarro must come back.
14. Jor El must come back.
15. Perry must come back and be chief of the planet. He can come back in only one episode and do the rest of his stuff off screen. It can be done. Just do it!
16. Martha needs to make a guest appearance for once. Its ridiculous.
17. If we can have Pete Ross return as well, Awesome!
18. A flashback with Jonathan Kent and Lionel Luthor would be great too.
19. Bring in Metallo.
20. Everyone wants the eradicator. Give it to them.
21. Bring back Black Canary, Green Arrow, Impulse, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Booster Gold and Chloe for one episode, an episode which will be just as good as Justice. Perhaps a two hour event for the mid-season cliffhanger which will gaurantee the second half of the season not being cancelled. For this episode, perhaps this should have Booster's premiere. I was thinking a couple of villains could be introduced to this as well as a side story. The two villains I thought would be great were Lobo and Sleez. Minor villains that can easily be incorporated and adapted to Smallville.
22. Doomsday needs to come back.
23. You must redeem Chloe and make sure she does not DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bend the rules just a little bit, come on!
Now what can we do to redeem what had happened in the season finalle???? Well here are your options:
A. Time Travel reverses everything and nothing changes.
B. Jimmy is Dead, but is the REAL JIMMY OLSEN and references are made in season nine that prove it.
C. Lois time travels back, saves Jimmy before he gets killed. Davis survives. He doesn't kill Jimmy, but somehow its discovered that he couldn't be fully seperated from the beast. So he has some DNA that keeps mutating in him and thats what got him angry originally with Jimmy enough to kill him. Incororate the Clark/Eradicator idea that fans are throwing out there.
D. Leave things the way they are. Have Davis be Zod now.
E. Leave things the way the are, except that Jimmy was the REAL Jimmy and Davis becomes Zod.
F. Leave things the way they are now, keep Davis out of Smallville.
G. I have other idea's.
Please vote above and explain why you voted that way.
LJ-90
05-16-2009, 10:02 PM
This sound more like a note for kidnapping.
But, I voted B, E,F.
wHY?
B) At least we know the character we loved wasn't a total cop-out, he was who we thought he was and this way TPTB and DC can clear their mess.
E) Same ^.
F) I don't want SW to play Zod, and I truly believes he doesn0t want to come back after the way they treated his character and storyline. Besides he didn't like the way they treated Aaron so. Besides I want him to do bigger things, and ultimately...it would be lame.
JRakaSupes
05-16-2009, 10:46 PM
I agree somewhat... But there's a few minor quips
Jimmy: I kinda like the whole Jimmy thing. I mean n the Superman "reality" Jimmy was a LOT younger than Clark, which is y he looked up 2 him so much. The whole "CK" light was more like an affectionate nickname... So I'd like 2 keep that
Davis: Kinda iffy lol. I mean, I like the whole separation idea, mainly b/c Ik that's wat Superman would really do. Having Davis feel so betrayed by the 1 he loved was like "WOW" and it led 2 Clark feeling let down which led to him leaving. AKA (following the movies when he felt humanity didnt need him albeit since they were inwardly the same as the foes he was going up against i.e. DD) << smarrrt rite? But yea.. just leaves a question of how DD "died" and Clark survived... didnt really explain that. I mean wow... What happened 2 Rokk's vision of Clark dying? hmm..?
I'm pretty sure Lois is having fun n the future with Future Superman, and is jus seeing her life in the future and being shocked by everything she sees and truly falling in love with Supes. Not really worried about her.
Zod: I'm thinkin SW is playin Zod.. I think some1 hinted 2 this earlier, but yea, he was sed 2 really resemble his father, so TADAHHH, major keepage! lol Only downside... fans may get a little confused..
Chloe: LOVE Chloe... but isn't it time 4 her 2 die?? Jus let the actress direct.. I liked the episodes she did, n was very enthusiastic about the idea of her complication to the storyline finally being over. Dah well...
Entire Season 8: I've been a long time fan.. I feel like every1 else about the flying thing... so not gonna get n2 that... I AM on the other hand going 2 address the MANY commercials that plague the series. Out of an hr of tv time... there's only a GOOD 25 mins of Smallville. (Note GOOD) Take out the intro of sum setup, the song (which I love btw) and the outto which puts the fans' minds @ ease... Im left feeling like I can quote the thoughts of the freakin commercials than the memorable lines sed in the episodes. PLEASE, I beg of you.. Fix that problem... (n the flying :-)) lol
All I can think of @ the moment.. but yea..
Theshadow129x
05-16-2009, 11:29 PM
all i ask is that they move forward with the ideas they brought into fruition in the finale and not try to cop out of it by saying something about black k and crap like that.
wafflles87
05-16-2009, 11:32 PM
So really, its my only wish that Lois and Clark don't become the main point of next year....
It better be if they want to get more than half way through S9 before being canceled.
ZODisGOD
05-16-2009, 11:55 PM
I rewatched the whole episode again and I'm even more angrier than the first two times. I'm officially cutting Smallville out of my life after seeing that garbage they call a season finale(Doomsday). Souders and Peterson can bend over and kiss my ass because I am no longer a fan. I've now broken free of this curse they call Smallville. My only hope for this show is a cancellation and a painful death. My one regret in my life was wasting my time with this sorry excuse for a TV show in the first place. I now see why most of the world say Smallville sucks. I'm sorry it took me this long to realize it.
Farewell
ZODisGOD
SpitCurl
05-17-2009, 12:01 AM
I'll definitely watch, I mean, C'mon, I'm pissed, but it isn't that serious. Based on this poll, Smallville lost more than 15% of its fan base? OUCH.
Well, I've never been a dedicated viewer (not since S1/2 and a bit of 3). I mostly catch up online. DD was the first episode I've watched live in quite some time and needless to say it wasn't what I expected.
If anything I'll simply put less effort into catching an episode. There won't be much of substance to talk about on these boards until late summer, it'll pretty much be speculation, which I can live w/o. Would rather discuss actual ep's, so this won't even be a part of my day. It's not that big a deal, I agree. Just disappointing.
The_Promise
05-17-2009, 01:49 AM
There's only ONE appropriate thing for me to post that sums up my feelings:
"Where Do We Go From Here?" from the Buffy The Vampire Musical
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
(Dawn) Where do we go from here?
(Buffy & Spike) Where do we go from here?
(Giles) The battle's done, and we kind of won,
(& Tara) So we sound our victory che -er.
Where do we go from here?
(Xander & Anya) Why is the path unclear?
When we know home is near?
(All) Understand we'll go hand-in-hand
But we'll walk alone in fear.
(Giles) - Tell me!
(All) Where do we go from here?
When does the end appear?
When do the trumpets cheer?
The curtains close on a kiss, God knows
We can tell the end is ne - ar
Where do we go from here?
Where do we go from here?
Where do we go from here?
Timester
05-17-2009, 02:59 AM
1. Bring Bruce Wayne. You wont confuse anyone. You will still make your money with other franchise stuff. It will only boost Smallville ratings. Bring him in. Dont screw up his character. Keep him close to the BW of the JLA cartoons.
You are not going to get Bruce. Ever. This is one of those things will never happen, no matter how many times people ask. More successful the movies are, less chance for Batman appearing any where else in the WB.
borednow
05-17-2009, 03:21 AM
:lol:
devilneedsaride
05-17-2009, 03:31 AM
She has to know about clark now after the time travel........er wait this is smallville she will forget.
Someone will step on her foot and she'll pass out, and wake up going "The last thing I remember is... uh... who are you?", because the brain damage will have finally set in.
Exedore
05-17-2009, 07:05 AM
You are not going to get Bruce. Ever. This is one of those things will never happen, no matter how many times people ask. More successful the movies are, less chance for Batman appearing any where else in the WB.
Bring a mysterious billionaire from Gotham whose favourite dance style is the Batusi. Let the fans connect the dots. :D
Kneel before Zod
05-17-2009, 07:08 AM
I was disappointed that Jimmy died, but I've accepted it. All of these far-fetched ideas of how to bring Jimmy back are pointless. They're not bringing Jimmy back. They would've of bothered replacing him if he was. Anyway, I'm waiting to see the season 9 premiere before I condemn this episode. If I don't like what I see in September, I'm done.
wafflles87
05-17-2009, 08:47 AM
Short of erasing the whole thing from existence, it can't be redeemed.
Whatever happens from now on will have the huge black spot of Doomsday hanging above it for me.
susangail
05-17-2009, 10:07 AM
I voted D. SW (not Davis) would be Zod.
Sorry, but I don't feel gypped. I'm relieved that Clark didn't fight Doomsday to the death, for reasons I've explained in other threads before the episode aired. The net was: IT WASN'T TIME.
I was sorry to see Jimmy go, although they'd done some weird things with him this season. I'm perfectly fine with his not being the mythos Jimmy; the age thing always bothered me.
I'm sorry that Chloe didn't go -- I always felt that she should sacrifice her life for him in a meaningful way to write her out of the story. I did appreciate that TPTB acknowledged her sacrifice in her reconciliation scene with Jimmy. They wrapped that whole story line up to my satisfaction. However, PS3 has said they're going to intersect with the comic mythos in S9, so I'm wondering now how they're going to write her out. However they do it needs to be worthy of the Chlark relationship, which I've totally enjoyed.
Although I didn't like Lois's harping on Clark at the DP, I really enjoyed the boundary Clark drew after Lois got nosy, as well as the clois phone call. I'm dying to find out what Lois knows when she returns from 3009. Yes, she went to the future, because that's where the Legion programmed the ring to take Doomsday. Hopefully, someone didn't blow her head off ;)
The JLA dynamic was interesting; it's too bad there wasn't more time to explore this. BC and Impulse paid lip service to Clark because he's the all-powerful one. Clark and Oliver pretty much broke their relationship over ego, which says a lot about Oliver that he was not afraid to use Clark's one weakness against him. A professional relationship (not much of a personal one) exists at the end. I'm sorry about this -- I like the guy thing that Oliver and Clark had; they complement each other nicely.
Before the episode aired, I was hoping that Rokk would hang around a bit longer, but he really only needed to be there for the scene he was in. His job was to light a fire under Clark, and he did it.
And Clark... wow, what a journey in the one episode. He's barely recognizable at the end.
* I've already mentioned they way he put Lois in her place at the DP: well done, and FINALLY! His mind is clearly on much more important concerns -- FINALLY.
* I could have done without his you're-not-one-of-us line.
* Loved the RBB-reveal scene with Jimmy. I'm glad that Clark could come clean with Jimmy before he died, and that Jimmy played a pivotal role in Clark's being able to save the world.
* The post-death aftermath was basically okay, but they ran out of screen time to do it justice. First of all, I would have liked to see Clark's reaction to the double-death and his indirect role in it; he promised Jimmy that Davis would be safe to be around, and he wasn't. (In that respect, Davis let down everyone who believed he was basically good inside, including Clark and me. I was shocked. No, the writers didn't do anything wrong.) Instead, we get Clark's not attending Jimmy's funeral and then the final Chlark scene. Does the JLA know that Clark is still alive, or is Chloe the only one? (Mighty cold of him not to tell them, but they're not exactly his best buds at that point.) Despite his down-with-humanity rant at the end, I find it telling that he bothered to visit Chloe at all. So he must need at least one person to anchor him. Why couldn't the one person have been Martha? The ending would have been ten times more powerful if he just showed up in Washington one day to say goodbye.
FWIW, I don't believe that the person we saw at the end is the Eradicator. (Not time yet!) Clark has just saved the world and dodged death, but at the cost of people he cared for. This life-changing trauma has probably changed him forever. He feels betrayed on several fronts -- the JLA and Davis -- and he needs time to process that. He's embraced the reality of his alien nature.
The Superman I've admired for 40 years is not quite there yet. SV Clark needs to find some perspective, but he's much closer at the end of this episode than he's ever been: done with longing to be human, he will play along because Earth is worth protecting. He's been inching away from Humanity all season.
I won't touch the Zod thing -- all they've done is tease.
I'm wondering now what the elapsed time will be between 8-22 and 9-1. I could see it play out a couple of different ways.
TomTom44
05-17-2009, 12:08 PM
As a long time SV fan, season 8 was by far the weakest. The writing was inconsistent, the characters were not as likable and as deep as in season's past. I think they had too many characters come through with too little character development. I want Season 9 to be memorable. I don't want SV to end. But I want it to be good again.
I would like to see to see everyone's "wish list" for Season 9.... maybe someone out there is listening... here are 8 things on my "wish list"...
1) RBB/Superman needs to go to the Fortress this summer. What a great way to spend a hiatus! Get his promised training. Learn his purpose. Learn how to fly. FINALLY.
2) Bring back Jor-El. Kal-El needs direction right now!
3) Keep "Clark Kent" away from the DP/SV world for a while. Let him "stay" with mom in Washington working on his reporting skills... great alibi.... he doesn't have to be seen by anyone in SV. Just an occasional remote by-line in some national paper (If any newspapers actually survive - maybe we need to make the new Clark a top blogger or Tweeter!). Let TW be just RBB/Superman for most of the season. Let him be a national hero - saving everyone; not just SV characters. Having Clark Kent leave for an extended period of time would make sense. Out of sight, out of mind.
4) Later in the season (after some event where he realizes his human side is important, etc...) "Clark" can come back as a DP reporter again in a well-thought-out double-identity mode. By then he would have matured a little, can start wearing glasses, and have a different "look" and personality then the old Clark. His would have been away and changed. People may not equate the two as easily. This new Clark won't have the world on his shoulders anymore - he can leave that to the "other guy". Only then can the Superman/Clark differences look and personalities be believable: let them separate for a while.
3) While Clark is AWAY Lois and Superman/RBB can start falling for each other. Challenge: Superman/RBB needs to stay in the dark/hidden from her. When Clark Kent comes back LATER in the season she will look at Clark differently. Clark will be just a nerdy reporter/farm boy again "Smallville" to her; no hero. Her falling for Clark earlier this season was bad. In Clark's absence she will have fallen for Superman/RBB. This can open up great story lines and kind of bridge the SV story (which is pretty much over anyway) to the beginning of the "Lois and Clark"-type story line.
4) Let Lois name Superman already! Let her have her interview. But she can't see him close and personal until "Clark Kent" is gone for a while.
5) Green Arrow, Chloe (as Watchtower only; this show is NOT about Chloe!), and other Legion members need to support RBB/Superman against villains. RBB/Superman needs to establish himself as the leader. No more questioning. Since everyone knows his real identity, let them leave "Clark" be.
6) Lex needs to come back this season to keep everything in sync with the DC world. Plus we just plain need him! Once he left things just spiraled out of control. Too many different villains. Maybe since Zod is back Lex will be too since he once was Zod's vessel? Just make the transition back to life as believable as possible! Mishaps in the future, Zatanna... there are many good ways of bring Lex back (including offering MR plenty of cash!)
7) Get rid of Tess. We only need one ass-kicking, brunette bombshell in the series - and that honor goes to Lois!
8) I want to see GOOD FIGHTS the season. I am sick of seeing Superman/RBB pummeled every episode. Let him do some hurting! Let's also see if he can "keep" his powers for a few episodes.
Here's to a memorable Season 9 ... great ratings... and maybe a whole new series name (and new network and big budget) for Season 10!
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