The TIME TRAVEL made NO sense!!!!!!!

[Superman of Krypton]

What exactly did Rokk do to change Clark's fate?

All he did was came back, told Clark he was going to die and gave him an option to avoid it (that Clark ignored) and said, no matter what.. Clark would die tomorrow.


Clark STILL proceeded with his Black Kryptonite plan (set up in the earlier episode)...

But somehow Clark survived this time....


What exactly did Rokk do to change Clark from dying... to surviving?

It really didn't add up.

And Rokk is the only element from the future who could have altered the present.......

[disciples of zod]

?

~H

[Superman of Krypton]

what..

[Timester]

What exactly did Rokk do to change Clark's fate?

All he did was came back, told Clark he was going to die and gave him an option to avoid it (that Clark ignored) and said, no matter what.. Clark would die tomorrow.


Clark STILL proceeded with his Black Kryptonite plan (set up in the earlier episode)...

But somehow Clark survived this time....


What exactly did Rokk do to change Clark from dying... to surviving?

It really didn't add up.

And Rokk is the only element from the future who could have altered the present.......

Add Lois to the equation.

[jpfort1957]

Lois will make the time line change!!!!!!!!!!

[Superman of Krypton]

But Lois hasn't done anything yet.


Are you implying she was the one who saved Clark?

I suppose that's the only explanation.


BUT...then why is she missing for days after that??



I'm telling you...the PS3 just screwed up (writing-wise) with the time travel thing.

[Carolina87]

I feel highly confused after this episode @_@ too many questions

[B_M4N]

How would Lois have anything to do with what happend between DD and Clark?

[Lilah]

We'll get every question answered in s9... At least we better....

[crimefightin fan]

I feel highly confused after this episode @_@ too many questions

Of course, that's probably what the producers want us to feel.

[Timester]

But Lois hasn't done anything yet.


Are you implying she was the one who saved Clark?

I suppose that's the only explanation.


BUT...then why is she missing for days after that??



I'm telling you...the PS3 just screwed up (writing-wise) with the time travel thing.

It's called cliffhanger. Why everyone suddenly want the finale cliffhangers answered on the finale? :confused:

[vezz801]

Clark died. His ghost was talking to Chloe, he vanished afterwards. We did not see what happened to him at the plant, nor does he remember as he told chloe. And no one noticed him at the funeral. Clark's still dead, Rokk changed nothing. But.... BUT. Lois could go back and change some of this, If thats truly what the writers are thinking.

[rebecavaldez]

I get what you mean, but I think it'll be on of those things that makes sense later!

[Minela]

How would Lois have anything to do with what happend between DD and Clark?

She was supposed to be in that phone booth, and if she would have been there maybe Clark would have been distracted by her/tried to save her and Doomsday would have gotten him. Because she disappeared with the ring, she wasn't there and therefore he survived.

[ThunderMonkey]

Clark Kent doesn't exist anymore according to Clark. Superman with all of his morality no longer exists. He died metaphorically. Rokk didn't realize it, but it wasn't a physical death that he had to worry about. It was the death of Clark Kents soul his basic humanity.

[you_smell_terrific]

My question is, how did Rokk contact Clark to tell him to meet him at the DP roof? When he flew there and showed up (which first off, wouldn't Rokk have just showed up on the roof of the DP instead of time traveling miles away so he could fly there O_o?) he said something like 'thanks for meeting me'. Implying that they had talked before that somewhere and then gone on to meet later O_o? Why would Rokk even bother contacting Clark before hand when he has a freaking time travel ring that can just zap him next to clark whenever he wants?

Or did I miss something and just sound really dumb right now lol? I just didn't see a point to that opening flying scene. It looked really fake and probably cost money that they could have used for the DD/Clark fight scene, and time that they could have saved so that the episode didn't seem so rushed.

I'm really dissapointed in the quality of the past two season finales. It would be one thing if this was their master plan from the beginning, but we ALL know they just pulled this crap out of their ass at the last minute to try to create some sort of 'shocking twist', when all it did was completely undo everything they had done.

Idk, I just wasn't feeling this episode.

[fa8362]

It's called cliffhanger. Why everyone suddenly want the finale cliffhangers answered on the finale? :confused:

Train wreck or garbage are better descriptors for that sorry excuse for an episode.

[Forney2414]

She was supposed to be in that phone booth, and if she would have been there maybe Clark would have been distracted by her/tried to save her and Doomsday would have gotten him. Because she disappeared with the ring, she wasn't there and therefore he survived.

I'm glad someone is thinking around here.

Please no more with these Clark was a ghost theories. He clearly survived the "fight".

[sts1285]

The only thing I can think of is Lois. he would have tried to save her or something and Doomsday would have bested him.

[latingirl]

Clark died. His ghost was talking to Chloe, he vanished afterwards. We did not see what happened to him at the plant, nor does he remember as he told chloe. And no one noticed him at the funeral. Clark's still dead, Rokk changed nothing. But.... BUT. Lois could go back and change some of this, If thats truly what the writers are thinking.

I think the same thing.. that scene make me remember "six senses" Maybe is like Lois Said in REUNION it was a Astral projection of Clark..... ;)

I think that everything is going to continue its own way.. the time is going to past fast, MAybe Lois was hurt by the Legion when she made pop up in the future, remember they were waiting for DD not for Lois

[UpandAtom]

When Clark said that "Clark Kent is dead" it could be referring to everyone thinking that Clark died during the Doomsday attack and that was where Rokk got his information from.

[Kryppy]

What exactly did Rokk do to change Clark's fate?

All he did was came back, told Clark he was going to die and gave him an option to avoid it (that Clark ignored) and said, no matter what.. Clark would die tomorrow.


Clark STILL proceeded with his Black Kryptonite plan (set up in the earlier episode)...

But somehow Clark survived this time....


What exactly did Rokk do to change Clark from dying... to surviving?

It really didn't add up.

And Rokk is the only element from the future who could have altered the present.......

At least from my point of view it's still very unclear if Doomsday is even dead or alive. Is the fight over? If it is, that was a lame ending for the "big fight."
Are we expecting the fight to continue in the Season 9 Premiere? If it does maybe then Clark will die?

All I know is the episode made no sense and had inexcusable writing for a Season Finale.

[Aries83]

How would Lois have anything to do with what happend between DD and Clark?

Well, here's one way: (maybe others have come to this conclusion already)

What if she showed up in future Metropolis and tracked down Clark at the DP (at the moment he was dying)...which kept him alive?:\

[Fugoukakusha]

Someone already posted his/her theory and I agree because it made sense. Like Rokk said, by going into the past he could have already altered the future. Which he did. He passed the legion ring to Clark, to which Clark put it on his drawer (at work *rollseyes* so careless of him) and of course to which Lois accidentally activating the ring and travelled into the future (or past). Now since Rokk said that Clark died he didn't specially give the whole detail on how he died so we can only speculate. The speculation is, Clark was planning on actually meeting Lois in the Main St. If Lois didn't time travel, she could have been there. She could have come between Clark and Doomsday. Clark would do anything to save Lois. So who knows, he could have gotten distracted because I presumed Lois wouldn't leave Clark alone with Doomsday after knowing his alter-ego. Hence, Clark would have probably died at that time. Now that Lois activated the ring and travelled to god knows where, she wasn't there, therefore the timeline has shifted and thus, unknowingly saved him by not being present (pardon the pun).

[dimefan90]

i got a superman 3 sort of vibe for some reason.

[malchloefan]

I would not be, the least bit suprised, if Lois was responsible for Clark's survival. For one thing he does not know how he made it out alive. There also seems to be no intervening factors in the timeline, other than Lois' dissapearance to explain how he survived the encounter. Why she is still missing however is another matter. If she returned to the present why can't she be founded.

(a) Some memory loss induced by time-travel or a knock to the head - The first I doubt because she could not have fufilled her mission. The second option doesn't seem that plausible either.

(b) She saved Clark somehow while still in the future.

(c) The Legion really liked having her around and decided that Clark didn't deserve to have her anyway so they kept her in the future. I jest naturally :)

[vikingjedi]

Clark died. His ghost was talking to Chloe, he vanished afterwards. We did not see what happened to him at the plant, nor does he remember as he told chloe. And no one noticed him at the funeral. Clark's still dead, Rokk changed nothing. But.... BUT. Lois could go back and change some of this, If thats truly what the writers are thinking.

That sounds right to me.

[SpitCurl]

Someone already posted his/her theory and I agree because it made sense. Like Rokk said, by going into the past he could have already altered the future. Which he did. He passed the legion ring to Clark, to which Clark put it on his drawer (at work *rollseyes* so careless of him) and of course to which Lois accidentally activating the ring...

Rokk sucks at time-travel :lol: He really needs to stop.

Can someone who taped it tell me if there was a specific date/time Clark was supposed to meet Lois? I almost recall her giving a time, which I guess could mean they were supposed to meet that same day, but that seemed strange, too.

Clark knows he has to go and fight this monster, which I assume Lois knows because she read the letter, but then she's all "Meet me at a random phone booth out in the open even though we have phone booth's inside this building where you happen to be right now, at 8:30", and Clark's like, "yeah, I'm fighting this big monster dude who could totally kill and it'll probably be really hard and hurt alot, coo, I'll see you then."

How did he know he'd be finished in time? Perhaps he saw the booth and said "Lois" because it made him realize he didn't know where she was, alive or dead.

Having Rokk come back just to give Clark the ring was pointless. They should've kept the old one. That was a waste of effects-budget and 50 seconds that coulve' gone to the DD fight. How did Clark even communicate w/him from the future, as has been asked? Rokk could've just told him he'd die tomorrow if not for the need to give CK the friggin ring because the writers detroyed the first one like 'tards.

[neoblackdragon]

I dont think it had anything to do with Lois. Simply Clark had a plan that worked(I know right).

Heres my idea

Timeline 1

Clark and the league search for chloe and Davis. Chloe no longer keeps doomsday in check. He beasts out and attacks the city. Clark hand is forced and they fight. Doomsday kills Clark in a fist for fist fight(maybe Clark saves the day). Think the comic book circumstances.

Timeline 2

Clarks gets a warning. Cooks up an idea. That is to bury doomsday. Clark sets it up and gets set up. This time as opposed to having a damn fight :(
Clark puts the plan into action and buries doomsday in the ground. Doomsday probably breathes and dies of suffocation. In a few years, his system is restarted and comes to go kill Superman.


So basically Clark saved himself by actually not fighting doomsday.