For everyone unhappy with this episode, TAKE A BREATHER.

[Angry_Fork]

They can only show so much in 1 hour. I guarentee you the 9th season premier or 2nd/3rd episode will pretty much answer everything. They'll show what happened with Clark and Doomsday and the explosion in flashback form, they'll show what happened to Lois obviously.

It's like you want the answers to every little thing but there's still atleast another season left, let them milk it out. As for Jimmy it's obvious his little brother is going to take the reigns now as the Clark-Jimmy. Then again I never really liked Jimmy's character on Smallville so I guess that's why his death doesn't really bother me too much.

Anyway I loved this episode, just seeing Jimmy's face when he found out Clark was Superman and everything. The main letdown obviously was Lois not being able to find out who Clark was imo but it'll happen next season.

And Clark semi-flying FTW.

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[faz]

I didn't like Jimmy either but that was a pretty lame way to handle that situation. And honestly, how much can they show in flashback? The explosion was a split second after CK threw DD down the hole.

I'm rarely one of the haters, and usually I'm the first one to tell everyone to let it play out, but I think this was just a weak effort. Remember that the idea of cliff-hangers in the finale are supposed to keep you hanging on for the following season - a job that this episode failed to accomplish (for me at least).

[Angry_Fork]

I know what you mean, i'm still really excited for the next season though. I want to know what happened to Lois, and if Clark really considers himself "dead" and if he's going to turn into Superman or fly, and so on.

[Lexsghost]

This is a forum to talk about the show its gonna have peoples opinions whether it be positive or negative.

[The Striving Artist®]

I guess TPTB took the hint that their version of Jimmy wasn't clicking with the audiences and found a unique way to off him while at the same time re-introducing him.

[Clark_smallville4ever]

They can only show so much in 1 hour. I guarentee you the 9th season premier or 2nd/3rd episode will pretty much answer everything. They'll show what happened with Clark and Doomsday and the explosion in flashback form, they'll show what happened to Lois obviously.

It's like you want the answers to every little thing but there's still atleast another season left, let them milk it out. As for Jimmy it's obvious his little brother is going to take the reigns now as the Clark-Jimmy. Then again I never really liked Jimmy's character on Smallville so I guess that's why his death doesn't really bother me too much.

Anyway I loved this episode, just seeing Jimmy's face when he found out Clark was Superman and everything. The main letdown obviously was Lois not being able to find out who Clark was imo but it'll happen next season.

And Clark semi-flying FTW.

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i 100% absolutely agree with you,

i said on another post that if this was the SERIES finale then yes i understand why everyone is upset because well never get some answers but we have anothe full season to get answers

:cool::cool::cool:

[Alicia Chipy]

I hate being tantalized with "fake Clois" spoilers and promises of epic battles that last 10 secs.I will be pissed for a few more days.

[Autumn]

No one can be as peeved as the Chlavis fans. Superman is forever dead to me. Anytime anyone ever mentions Smallville to me again, I will have to take a breather. HATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

[fa8362]

It sucked...horribly.

[darkphoenix21]

I was pretty certain that the epic battle that was going to happen was going to equate between 5-10mins of the episode, but not even 5mins. But I have to admit I did love when DD punched Clark; that slow motion shot was brutally fun to watch.

I'm assuming that Lois will be back either in the season premiere or within the first few episodes without any memory of being sent to the future.

And you had to figure something was coming with the whole Chloe & Jimmy scene; it was set up to be expected. I know I was expecting it. Overall I enjoyed the episode for the most part. I think cause I braced myself to the fact that the last few season finales were let downs, so I wasn't expecting much from this season's finale.

[amandaa125]

I hate being tantalized with "fake Clois" spoilers and promises of epic battles that last 10 secs.I will be pissed for a few more days.

agreed. the spoilers got me so pumped up that i was ultimately disappointed. i probably would have liked the episode more if i wasnt waiting the whole time for a great clois scene and an epic battle, both of which never happened.

[Kschreck]

They can only show so much in 1 hour. I guarentee you the 9th season premier or 2nd/3rd episode will pretty much answer everything. They'll show what happened with Clark and Doomsday and the explosion in flashback form, they'll show what happened to Lois obviously.

It's like you want the answers to every little thing but there's still atleast another season left, let them milk it out. As for Jimmy it's obvious his little brother is going to take the reigns now as the Clark-Jimmy. Then again I never really liked Jimmy's character on Smallville so I guess that's why his death doesn't really bother me too much.

Anyway I loved this episode, just seeing Jimmy's face when he found out Clark was Superman and everything. The main letdown obviously was Lois not being able to find out who Clark was imo but it'll happen next season.

And Clark semi-flying FTW.

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I was in your position after the awesome season seven when I first joined here, all excited for season eight. Then the budget cuts, actor losts and horrible writing and of course "time" happened and today we end up with a train wreck of a season. No they are not going to show flashbacks of what happened with Clark and Doomsday next episode because they can't afford to show off the Geothermal plant more then the small parts they showed in Doomsday.

I will continue to watch as I do but at this point I am only watching just to see the story play out to the end and Clark become Superman. I now realize why so many people wanted this show to end a long time ago and it's because the quality has been decreasing so fast that it's just plain upsetting.

[CreamPuffer]

They can only show so much in 1 hour. I guarentee you the 9th season premier or 2nd/3rd episode will pretty much answer everything. They'll show what happened with Clark and Doomsday and the explosion in flashback form, they'll show what happened to Lois obviously.

It's like you want the answers to every little thing but there's still atleast another season left, let them milk it out. As for Jimmy it's obvious his little brother is going to take the reigns now as the Clark-Jimmy. Then again I never really liked Jimmy's character on Smallville so I guess that's why his death doesn't really bother me too much.

Anyway I loved this episode, just seeing Jimmy's face when he found out Clark was Superman and everything. The main letdown obviously was Lois not being able to find out who Clark was imo but it'll happen next season.

And Clark semi-flying FTW.

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I don't need a breather. I need those chimpanzee on crack writers to announce that the final was just a practical joke and the real season final will air next Thursday. If they were going to rush things, maybe they should have paced themselves properly. They could have started the whole thing in the prior episode and then they would have had a good storyline going, instead of cramming all this stuff into 40 minutes. It's not even about cramming all that junk, it's about the actual storyline. Half the stuff made no sense at all. It was really really awful writing but hey if you look on the bright side. These writers are great candidates to write the next screenplay for Twilight.

[Bizarrolover]

I didn't hate the episode, in fact I liked it until they made Chloe the martyr/hero. I was just expceting Chloe to apologize to Jimmy for trusting Davis over him. I was expecting her to apologize to Clark for not letting him send Davis to the Phantom Zone and then taking responsibility for the deaths she caused. But that never happened. She ended the episode as a hero, sacrificing everything for a greater good, just like Lana in Requiem. What a crap. She didn't sacrifice anything, she made the worst choices ever.

[Shahryar]

I was pretty certain that the epic battle that was going to happen was going to equate between 5-10mins of the episode, but not even 5mins. .....

Yep, they should have just shortened the other stuff. This episode was supposed to be about the fight

[nyctnafan100]

i'm in the minority i enjoyed the episode. i think people need to realize smallville is not going to answer all your questions and they left us thinking. one where is lois, two what happened with tess is zod back, three whats going on with clark. this reminds of season 3 when clark left chloe and pete behind because he was tired of being a thorn or a problem for everyone. my only complaints are not so much the doomsday clark fight to me i can deal with it. i wasnt expecting a big drag out similar to how we didnt get it with clark vs lex but if im a lil miffed its that spoiler trailer shows the legion guy telling clark hell die the next day. from there they cut to the scene of a funeral. i would have liked them to show being at clarks funeral, expand on the letter he wanted lois to publish and give a brief idea what happens to clarks friends and metropolis when he dies. i also want to thank aaron ashmore for his contribution to the show. to me he was what jimmy olsen was wholesome for the most part. maybe not the most interesting character but i think he did fine. the writers turning him heel being a druggie was a nice switch as well but i had a feeling going in he would die just had that feeling. great scene with him and allison. finally im glad allison, justin and cassidy are still alive. looking forward to season 9. you can hate if u want but 9 seasons is a great accomplishment.

[4Clana]

Extreme hate for this episode! Jimmy was my favorite :(

[krpto]

I didn't like Jimmy either but that was a pretty lame way to handle that situation. And honestly, how much can they show in flashback? The explosion was a split second after CK threw DD down the hole.

I'm rarely one of the haters, and usually I'm the first one to tell everyone to let it play out, but I think this was just a weak effort. Remember that the idea of cliff-hangers in the finale are supposed to keep you hanging on for the following season - a job that this episode failed to accomplish (for me at least).

Exactly why I gave this episode a 3 out of ten it wasn't the worst episode ever but it was deffinately the worst finale of the show ever and the worst episode that didn't feature lana this season. I mean what they planning to do next bring back lucy lane then kill her and say that wasn't the real lucy it was just one of lois's other sisters who went by lucy and we will meet a 3rd lane sister who is the real lucy lane? And clark saying his humanity makes him weak and prevents him fromb saving people made him look stupid and look like he was reprogrammed by jor-el but just not willing to admit this time that it isn't clark. I hope next season that they flesh out little jimmy olsen character to show how he will grow to be superman's pal and that some time early in the season they reveal that the clark that was talking to chloe at the end of doomsday wasn't the real clark because the clark who will be superman would and should never tyalk like that even if I think ollie was right about destroying the creature to protect humanity I don't think clark who will be superman eventually and always looks for the brighter side of live and looks for another way to save everyone should be talking about how his feelings for humantiy keep him from being a hero.

[Doomsday44]

They lead the whole season up to the Clark and Doomsday epic fight....and then it over in 10 seconds. LAME!!! O yeah and how "All Clois fans will forgive the Lana Arc after this episode..." Yeah no, still mad about that too. There was nothing romantic between Lois and Clark...AT ALL. What a Let down episode.

[Mythosgirl]

I hate being tantalized with "fake Clois" spoilers and promises of epic battles that last 10 secs.I will be pissed for a few more days.

I have just begun to seethe.....

[dotsie23]

They can only show so much in 1 hour. I guarentee you the 9th season premier or 2nd/3rd episode will pretty much answer everything. They'll show what happened with Clark and Doomsday and the explosion in flashback form, they'll show what happened to Lois obviously.

It's like you want the answers to every little thing but there's still atleast another season left, let them milk it out. As for Jimmy it's obvious his little brother is going to take the reigns now as the Clark-Jimmy. Then again I never really liked Jimmy's character on Smallville so I guess that's why his death doesn't really bother me too much.

Anyway I loved this episode, just seeing Jimmy's face when he found out Clark was Superman and everything. The main letdown obviously was Lois not being able to find out who Clark was imo but it'll happen next season.

And Clark semi-flying FTW.

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How the heck is Jimmy's little 10-year old brother suppose to fill in for the gaping hole as the Clark n Jimmy friendship?


I don't need a breather. I need those chimpanzee on crack writers to announce that the final was just a practical joke and the real season final will air next Thursday. If they were going to rush things, maybe they should have paced themselves properly. They could have started the whole thing in the prior episode and then they would have had a good storyline going, instead of cramming all this stuff into 40 minutes. It's not even about cramming all that junk, it's about the actual storyline. Half the stuff made no sense at all. It was really really awful writing but hey if you look on the bright side. These writers are great candidates to write the next screenplay for Twilight.



:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Lilah]

This Bliss scene was the best part of the episode and it was all the way at the beginning.... and I don't know what you mean that fans didn't like this Jimmy... cause I haven't seen too many fans against him.... I am going to miss him like crazy... It actually feels like the 2008 Superbowl when the Patriots lost for me... I'm not mad, I'm just very sad.... :0(

[bigvillir001]

i'm in the minority i enjoyed the episode. i think people need to realize smallville is not going to answer all your questions and they left us thinking. one where is lois, two what happened with tess is zod back, three whats going on with clark. this reminds of season 3 when clark left chloe and pete behind because he was tired of being a thorn or a problem for everyone. my only complaints are not so much the doomsday clark fight to me i can deal with it. i wasnt expecting a big drag out similar to how we didnt get it with clark vs lex but if im a lil miffed its that spoiler trailer shows the legion guy telling clark hell die the next day. from there they cut to the scene of a funeral. i would have liked them to show being at clarks funeral, expand on the letter he wanted lois to publish and give a brief idea what happens to clarks friends and metropolis when he dies. i also want to thank aaron ashmore for his contribution to the show. to me he was what jimmy olsen was wholesome for the most part. maybe not the most interesting character but i think he did fine. the writers turning him heel being a druggie was a nice switch as well but i had a feeling going in he would die just had that feeling. great scene with him and allison. finally im glad allison, justin and cassidy are still alive. looking forward to season 9. you can hate if u want but 9 seasons is a great accomplishment.
i agree doomsday look like it was moving to like it was pressed on time and they did leave alot unawswered qustions PS1 did write great season but they looked like rush doomsdayi ti think w/ the whole digital mess and march maddness they felt rushed
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[Lilah]

I don't need a breather. I need those chimpanzee on crack writers to announce that the final was just a practical joke and the real season final will air next Thursday. If they were going to rush things, maybe they should have paced themselves properly. They could have started the whole thing in the prior episode and then they would have had a good storyline going, instead of cramming all this stuff into 40 minutes. It's not even about cramming all that junk, it's about the actual storyline. Half the stuff made no sense at all. It was really really awful writing but hey if you look on the bright side. These writers are great candidates to write the next screenplay for Twilight.

I'm right there with ya! They should have mixed Chloe and Davis should have left in Eternal (if they wanted that storyline so badly) and just had Injustice in Eternal's place so the season finale could have been a 2 parter.... Why must they cram everything in one 40 minute slot... you know my best friend was watching with me and I made the off handed comment that I wonder how they'll do this, considering everything that was in the promo in 40 minutes... and she said maybe everything that was in the promo is the episode... I laughed it off cause that would suck... and damn it she was right!

They tried to cram too much into one season... they could have and probably should have extneded this Doomsday storyline into s9 as oposed to tying up everything in such a short amount of time.... :mad:

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i'm in the minority i enjoyed the episode. i think people need to realize smallville is not going to answer all your questions and they left us thinking. one where is lois, two what happened with tess is zod back, three whats going on with clark. this reminds of season 3 when clark left chloe and pete behind because he was tired of being a thorn or a problem for everyone. my only complaints are not so much the doomsday clark fight to me i can deal with it. i wasnt expecting a big drag out similar to how we didnt get it with clark vs lex but if im a lil miffed its that spoiler trailer shows the legion guy telling clark hell die the next day. from there they cut to the scene of a funeral. i would have liked them to show being at clarks funeral, expand on the letter he wanted lois to publish and give a brief idea what happens to clarks friends and metropolis when he dies. i also want to thank aaron ashmore for his contribution to the show. to me he was what jimmy olsen was wholesome for the most part. maybe not the most interesting character but i think he did fine. the writers turning him heel being a druggie was a nice switch as well but i had a feeling going in he would die just had that feeling. great scene with him and allison. finally im glad allison, justin and cassidy are still alive. looking forward to season 9. you can hate if u want but 9 seasons is a great accomplishment.
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I can answer those for you actually....

1. Lois is probably in 3009 with the Legion looking at her like "WTH? You're not Doomsday...." And she's extremely confused right now...

2. Zod is back. He will be the villain next season. Let's hope they do it right this time. Next...

3. Clark is obviously not himself. Hopefully he did die and that's really the ERADICATOR because to be honest that's about the only thing that would save the series right now....

The point is the finale was rushed and it was just blech.

[Mindylynne]

I agree. I think this set up next season nicely. Clearly the writers have a plan for a change for next year. Whether it is a time fast forward or not, Clark's view on things and his priorities have changed. Chloe has a lot to get over and a new apartment to decorate. (Bye, bye Talon, I hope). Whenever Lois comes back....well, that is certainly going to have it one set of problems for Clark. She has to learn something. The JLA has to regroup. Oh yeah, don't forget about Zod. I think next season should be quite exciting.

[thejazonshow]

I'm right there with ya! They should have mixed Chloe and Davis should have left in Eternal (if they wanted that storyline so badly) and just had Injustice in Eternal's place so the season finale could have been a 2 parter.... Why must they cram everything in one 40 minute slot... you know my best friend was watching with me and I made the off handed comment that I wonder how they'll do this, considering everything that was in the promo in 40 minutes... and she said maybe everything that was in the promo is the episode... I laughed it off cause that would suck... and damn it she was right!

They tried to cram too much into one season... they could have and probably should have extneded this Doomsday storyline into s9 as oposed to tying up everything in such a short amount of time.... :mad:

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I can answer those for you actually....

1. Lois is probably in 3009 with the Legion looking at her like "WTH? You're not Doomsday...." And she's extremely confused right now...

2. Zod is back. He will be the villain next season. Let's hope they do it right this time. Next...

3. Clark is obviously not himself. Hopefully he did die and that's really the ERADICATOR because to be honest that's about the only thing that would save the series right now....

The point is the finale was rushed and it was just blech.

Eradicator would be a great idea i think. and your right, only way to really save his character considering the step back he took by once again giving up his humanity. I mean, wasn't he the "Kryptonian Man" or whatever in season 4? did he not learn his lesson theN? Martha had to save his butt then. They honestly should have just made doomsday a two parter like it was mentioned. it felt like injustice was almost a throw away episode, with all it doing was establishing jimmy working for Oliver and black kryptonite which ended up not making a difference here cuz davis dies anyway.

[kentdog]

i will be pissed off of about a week because of this.

[thejazonshow]

i will be pissed off of about a week because of this.
agreed

[superman_reboot]

With the Jimmy thing, I'm actually starting to think if we misinterpreted the hint of "Someone new and old"...what if this actually meant Jimmy?....they brought in the new kid that is actually the mythos Jimmy Olsen?

[Lilah]

^Yeah Alex, that still doesn't make me feel better....

The only way I'm going to feel good about Smallville is if it goes 10 years in the future and AA is back playing Jimmy Olsen even if it is the young brother he's playing this time.... But that won't happen so it's unlikely I'll ever tune in to watch Smallville the same way again... its a sad sad day in my world...

[superman_reboot]

I agree Lily. AA did a great job and captured us all as Jimmy Olsen. It would be too awkward now for anyone to step into those shoes...I'm guessing what will happen is we'll see the real Jimmy in the series finale only...it will be a younger Jimmy obviously, but only in the finale to line up with the mythos...it would be great if he got the job at the planet because of Clark...Clark would get him the job because of his older brother (AA) and how close they were...

[Honey45]

This isn't about wanting answers AT ALL. This is about the cheap, lazy cop-out that is Jimmy's death and the transformation of Chloe into a righteous little brat.

I don't need to wait until next season to have that explained to me. There's nothing to answer, there's nothing to explain. Whoever made up the finale storyline is lazy and really dropped the ball.

[Dominicus]

This isn't about wanting answers AT ALL. This is about the cheap, lazy cop-out that is Jimmy's death and the transformation of Chloe into a righteous little brat.

I don't need to wait until next season to have that explained to me. There's nothing to answer, there's nothing to explain. Whoever made up the finale storyline is lazy and really dropped the ball.Exactly, nicely said! ^^

[amberdawn]

Sorry, I will not take a breather at all. I've been betrayed. I don't care if it's just an effing tv show. Superman has been very dear to me ever since I was little, so yeah, I do take it seriously.

[LJ-90]

This isn't about wanting answers AT ALL. This is about the cheap, lazy cop-out that is Jimmy's death and the transformation of Chloe into a righteous little brat.

I don't need to wait until next season to have that explained to me. There's nothing to answer, there's nothing to explain. Whoever made up the finale storyline is lazy and really dropped the ball.

True. This isn't about the "cliffhangers" at all, it's about the [mod edit] they did with AA's characther.

[Dominicus]

Sorry, I will not take a breather at all. I've been betrayed. I don't care if it's just an effing tv show. Superman has been very dear to me ever since I was little, so yeah, I do take it seriously. Same here, now I'm starting to understand how Davis felt when he was betrayed by Chloe. Everything I knew was a lie they made that clear with what they did to Jimmy. no character is safe, except Chloe because that was their own creation, they may keep it, or torture it some more. Where's the integrity of this show?

[borednow]

[Mod Edit]

[Shahryar]

...They honestly should have just made doomsday a two parter like it was mentioned. it felt like injustice was almost a throw away episode, with all it doing was establishing jimmy working for Oliver and black kryptonite which ended up not making a difference here cuz davis dies anyway.

Yeah, it would have been nice if there was something interesting - maybe the black kryptonite not working as expected on Doomsday (like the way the green one did) and in splitting them, now we had two doomsdays. I don't know, anything interesting would have been good.

I would have just been happy with a longer fight.

[Odysseus]

I agree. I think this set up next season nicely. Clearly the writers have a plan for a change for next year. Whether it is a time fast forward or not, Clark's view on things and his priorities have changed. Chloe has a lot to get over and a new apartment to decorate. (Bye, bye Talon, I hope). Whenever Lois comes back....well, that is certainly going to have it one set of problems for Clark. She has to learn something. The JLA has to regroup. Oh yeah, don't forget about Zod. I think next season should be quite exciting.

Agreed. I enjoyed the episode.

I dunno, it feels like bashing the episode/writers/producers and whining about "OMG HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?!!!" seems to be the fashionable thing right now :lol: But I disagree, I enjoyed the episode. It wasn't as exciting a finale as "Vessel," but it was a solid episode.

Of course the writers are gonna leave some questions open for the summer. That's what every show does in season finales.

And yeah, I liked (Henry) Jimmy's character, but it what they did was a pretty good surprise, which I didn't see coming. The goal was to surprise the viewers (Or at least the ones who don't read spoilers). I don't read spoilers and the twist caught me by total surprise...and I enjoyed it.

[amberdawn]

The goal was to surprise the viewers

All they did was piss off viewers or confuse them (seriously, I had to explain to my dad what happened when the episode was over because he didn't know what Jimmy's full name was).

[ox007]

Funny how many posts on this thread are titled:

[Mod Edit], so let's exchange our thoughts:

My [Mod Edit] vs your [Mod Edit] adding [Mod Edit] and another [Mod Edit] !

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

But I did like the episode as I stated on another threads, despite some setbacks it was enjoyable for me :)

[Eckyboy]

The trouble is if previous seasons are anything to go by then a lot of the questions raised in this episode wil lprobably just be swept under the carpet in the new season and they will go groundhog day again and start all over.

"Never underestimate the power of the sausage" Aristotle.

[rebecavaldez]

I know a way they can make us happy....bring season nine back NOW!!!!

[Odysseus]

All they did was piss off viewers or confuse them (seriously, I had to explain to my dad what happened when the episode was over because he didn't know what Jimmy's full name was).

In your opinion. I guess it upset you, but it certainly didn't upset me.

There's no right answer here, this is all a matter of opinion.