Man at the end of the episode was?

[Liquid-Prince]

So was that Zod returning in Doomsday's body? So are we going to have an epic DoomZod battle in the premiere?

[adromidon]

Ok i did not see this posted else where but what do you guys think the guy at the end of the episode was and more to the point what was he saying over and over i could not understand it clearly but it sounded as if he said Zod

I suppose it is possible it may have been the orb ressurecting Lex as well but not sure

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I was very disappointed in the battle.

Maybe the premiere will be the actual fight.

[faz]

Didn't look like Doomsday's body to me, it just looked like a body.

[DaTraggernaut]

I'm lost!! what will be next for SMALLVILLE?

[eggie]

Looked like he had hair, so I'm going to go with Zod inhabiting Davis' human body.

[kyl-el]

looked kind of like davis' body to me

[Supsfan]

It's Zod and I believe Sam Witer will be playing him

[DaTraggernaut]

Are you serious?

[jessestuber]

spoilers




it was davis. you can tell because they showed the hole where jimmy stabbed him.

[DaTraggernaut]

How did ZOD come back?

[eggie]

I totally think Zod is inhabiting Davis' dead body.

[adromidon]

did you catch what they were actually saying ?

[sts1285]

Yeah it looked like it was Witwer. But how are they gonna explain Zod coming from the orb when he's supposed to be in the Zone?

[roccanater]

Looked like he had hair, so I'm going to go with Zod inhabiting Davis' human body.

Yup.

[dru-zod2501]

I didn't see the hole, but I'm sure that was Zod played be SW

[TECHWON]

it's zod and i believe sam witer will be playing him


yup it was the man they call zod

[Liquid-Prince]

Yeah, me too.

[itashy]

it makes sense why 1 the orb said doomsday must die 2 zod has fooled people before into believing that he will save the world...but i think zod wont be happy because he probably didnt think clark would use black k and zod most likely wanted doomsday not davis...if he wanted a human,he wouldve just gotten any normal human

[Niad]

its davis = zod im guessing

[DaTraggernaut]

welcome back zod

----- Added 41 Seconds later -----

do yall know this for fact?

[Liquid-Prince]

Now I'm hoping they are planning to have a big DoomZod battle to make up for this Doomsday one. Hopefully.

[haydenclaireheroes]

the DUDE was davis and what is next for smallville is a mystery because it can go anywere.

----- Added 31 Seconds later -----

or ZOD

[patrese]

i think we are going for an futuristic /alternate reality which happens in the comics

[Supsfan]

Are you serious?

If you taped the episode, you'll notice the name Zod being chanted over and over, there is also a huge Z burning int he field

[patrese]

If you taped the episode, you'll notice the name Zod being chanted over and over, there is also a huge Z burning int he field

Yep but not Zod as we know him but a more perfect version of ZOD/Doomsday

[Tinyeppy]

The guy was obviously Zod & to me it also looked like Sam Witer playing him b/c I've seen this very nice body before :D

[patrese]

I really think smallville is going in an entirely new direction which I think is a good thing

[Lexsghost]

Im not sure if Im down with this new direction the show is going.

[rebecavaldez]

Wow, that would be a twist.

[Baron Karza]

You are all fools. It was obviously Booster Gold come from the future to save the day!

...and make lots of money in investments and endorsements...

[kyl-el]

How the heck did Zod return though? Thats what I want to know.

[slifer151]

Zod yes, WItwer no. That would just be too far gone after an epic fail finale like that. Hope the writers see how much they failed and take that into account when sorting out the season 9 premiere

[DAISHI]

You are all fools. It was obviously Booster Gold come from the future to save the day!

...and make lots of money in investments and endorsements...

Hands down one of my favorite characters of all time!

[SuperSheltie]

I dunno, that looked a lot like TW...there was that same "backside" shot of Tom in the hospital when he dropped his blanket/cape....???

We see Clark not acting like Clark at all with Chloe....I'm sorry, I do not think it was Clark....

The "twist" could be Zod inhabiting Clark.....

This episode confused the heck out of me.....I'm going to have to watch it again a bunch of times.....

The other interesting thing was Chloe giving Jimmy's brother the camera....last I heard, Jimmy's parents were raging alcoholics....perhaps this is really the "future" Jimmy...?

my head hurts.....

[antx]

Oh man Zod played by Sam Witwer.Didn't Craig call that one.I can't believe they are actually going to do this.What surprises me even more is that Sam isn't leaving the show.I thought that was the only thing I was sure about for the finale.Ah well Sam is an awesome actor,I can't wait to see him portray Zod.

[Dyanara]

Oh gosh why is it always Zod with these people. I know he is apparently a great villain in the comics but come on Smallville!

[Lauren_17]

The hair and body belong to Sam. Clark isn't acting like himself because he feels guilt over what happened. If it wasn't for Clark, Jimmy would be alive.

[Var-Zol]

Zod must have had brainiac trap Kandor in the orb. Zod then created a clone of his body intertwined with DD and designed it to be split by black K on earth.He did this cause he knew Jor-El would capture him and turn him into a phantom and put him in the PZ. Zod somehow knew clark would use black K to save davis. The orb removed Zod from the PZ and merged him with his clone (davis). Zod's plan, in cased his disciples and brainiac failed, was to merge his clone with DD, send it to earth, have DD kill humanity and regrow Kandor on Earth to make it into new krypton. just a theory.

[Forney2414]

Why can't Zod ever inhabit his own body. And how the heck can he keep controlling person after person? Makes no sense. It is like the writers are like hmm how can we get out of this jam. Oh i know lets just say zod did it.

[rebecavaldez]

What did the guy say at the end. Both my sister and I think he said "Lois"
It would make sense in a weird way. Lois was the vessel of "Faora" so maybe he is planning something!

[um4rio]

It looked kinda like clark / davis from the back :confused: and a bit like god too :eek: lol..but it can't be zod because he had short hair..the whole zod possessing clark theory is a possibility I guess by saying that the giant figure was zod in clarks body. Still confusing though, although I guess it wouldn't be a finale if it answered all the questions

[Forney2414]

It was Davis as Zod. Silly and lame, yes. But that is who it was.

[jpfort1957]

I think it is Zod (palayed by Sam), but I'm not sure is Davis body. He wasn't requiring Davis body from Tess, but he did want the PZ crystal destroyed. With noway to send DD to the PZ he was sure Kal-El would be out of his way.

[davidbrenton]

Zod, who is also Sam Witier, who played Doomsday who was made in the form of Zod, his father. Perfect sense was made here.

[Lori Lemaris]

Sam witwer!

[smeyer44]

Why can't Zod ever inhabit his own body. And how the heck can he keep controlling person after person? Makes no sense. It is like the writers are like hmm how can we get out of this jam. Oh i know lets just say zod did it.

Apparently Davis was the spitting image of his father. So in season 9, we'll see Zod in his normal form (essentially)

[superhippie2000]

What did the guy say at the end. Both my sister and I think he said "Lois"
It would make sense in a weird way. Lois was the vessel of "Faora" so maybe he is planning something!
the orb was saying zod.

[um4rio]

but i thought this was sam witwer's only season, soo surely he can't play zod next season? also it's a bit strange to have him play doomsday then zod!

orr if you're into star wars...

starkiller then doomsday then zod!

confusing!!

[Nataku]

but i thought this was sam witwer's only season, soo surely he can't play zod next season? also it's a bit strange to have him play doomsday then zod!

orr if you're into star wars...

starkiller then doomsday then zod!

confusing!!

Not confusing since Davis supposedly looked like his "father". It's like Tom Welling playing a young Jor-El.

I really hope we get a Krypton flashback episode with Sam as a bearded Zod and Tom as a white haired Jor-El!

[jpfort1957]

It's Zod. I think his plans were to contol DD after it killed Clark.

[Darth Pipes]

I'm sure this will lead to a season finale where Clark fights ZodDoom for ten seconds and everything will be resolved before the final commercial break.

[Patient101]

Honestly if it is just Zod in Davis' body I am going to be kind of annoyed.

There is nothing wrong with a bit of fresh blood on the show every once in a while and the whole body snatchers thing gets old too.

I'm just happy that Miss Mack survived once again. I have never been so happy to see a veteran character get a pole shoved through his chest than I was tonight because it meant that our quota for dead vets was filled and our little blond was spared, lol.

I would like to know what this show's deal is with anti-climatic battles though... I was typing an email so only half paying attention for a bit and some where in those five minutes doomsday was defeated. I mean really? This guy kills Superman in the comics after an epic battle that takes like the entire comic and destroys half the city but we get this crap? Anyone remember the not so epic battle with bizarro a couple seasons ago? They spend a season setting these up and then let us down big time...

[Clark_smallville4ever]

the orb basically told and convinced tess that Davis Bloom/Doomsday had to die..

i have been wondering why does zod need him to die.. and came up with maybe since doomsday was kryptonian he was the only person he could come back into

i want to know what everyone else thinks??

[GhostRaider]

spoilers




it was davis. you can tell because they showed the hole where jimmy stabbed him.

That wasn't a hole it was some kind of tattoo. In fact now that I think about it wasn't that the symbol that was on top of the orb?

Here are two shots I pulled from the scene:
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww274/Jace2011/Zod.jpg
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww274/Jace2011/Zod2.jpg

[rebecavaldez]

the orb was saying zod.
Haha, I liked my theory better....
It was bring out some Sam/Erica fans!

[chlo-el]

I think maybe Zod needed Davis to die so then Zod could be reborn in his body.

[doomsday1215]

remember what Faora said to Davis in Bloodline? "you are the spitting image of your father."

[Kschreck]

I don't think that was Sam Witwer playing Zod...

[sts1285]

I think it was Witwer, just don't know how they're going to justify Zod coming from the orb when he's supposed to be in the Phantom Zone.

[Kschreck]

I think it was Witwer, just don't know how they're going to justify Zod coming from the orb when he's supposed to be in the Phantom Zone.


RECONS my friend, their all the rage these days!!!

[jpfort1957]

I'll bet it is Sam Witwer!!!!!!!!!

[Clark_smallville4ever]

I was thinking thinking maybe when Jor-El was developing the orb as a way to save earth from clark if he turned evil that Zor-El messed with the programming where it could be used as a device to free zod from the phantom zone bc at that time i belive he was in there(zod i mean)

idk prob no chacne thats it but hell u never know

[davidbrenton]

It was intended to be Sam...but they left themselves the option of changing that upon fan reaction.

However, it was not Davis' body. Davis was a Kryptonian experiment done by his "parents" Zod and Faora (Why wouldn't they make Davis the spitting image of his father?)

[Forney2414]

Maybe Luthor has something to do with all this. He could still be pulling the strings. Zantanna could have made it so people think Luthor is dead...

[kyl-el]

Maybe Luthor has something to do with all this. He could still be pulling the strings. Zantanna could have made it so people think Luthor is dead...

I'm with you. I refuse to accept that Lex is dead. I mean come on....he's Lex Luthor!

[sts1285]

Of course Lex lives, the writers wouldn't be that stupid...wait.

[Scribe]

Honestly, I don't mind Zod back. Zod should have been back for an entire season last time, not two flipping episodes! If they decide to keep him the way they've done Davis this whole season - I don't mind. We get a formidable villain and SW whose turned out to be a pretty interesting replacement for Lex.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

It wasn't SW, it was TW, I am sure of it.

[dimefan90]

up until the Z symbol i thought it was the eradicator

[Harrison_Bergeron]

I am 99% sure they are just screwing with the Eradicator origin. It is Eradicator.

[Emissary of Justice]

No. That was definitely Zod's symbol. The Eradicator replaces Clark.

[FozzyRock]

Clark opened the Phantom Zone in Beast, Zod could have snuck out then and entered the crystal awaiting Davis' death

[I_am_LEX]

The crystal tess destoyed at the "orb's" command was so that DD/davis wouldn't be sent to the phantom zone. he would either be killed or separated. Zod would have known this. So he somehow programmed the orb to be a gateway out of the phantom zone when a proper body was ready for him... his dead son's camouflage skin. And since it is of kryptonian origin, the vessel is permanent! I also made a thread on the theory that the kawatche cave prophecy was actually about doomsday/davis. That's why the voice from the orb asked him kal-el was ready to fulfill the prophecy and split the bodies so that he could use the camo as his own since it was made in his form!

[st_stickler]

Yeah it looked like it was Witwer. But how are they gonna explain Zod coming from the orb when he's supposed to be in the Zone?

I think the whole orb-to-control-the-traveler thing was an invention of Brainiac when he used Kara to go back to Krypton. Brainiac didn't just go back at the exact time necessary to kill baby Kal'el, he went further. Why? I think he was smart enough to realize that something might have gone wrong and so he put a number of contingency plans into place. Brainiac having gone back in time could have discovered a way to "divert" Zod from the phantom zone to the orb.

i don't know that that is what happened, but it is definitely a possibility.

[Exedore]

Otis.

[drvr8]

You are all fools. It was obviously Booster Gold come from the future to save the day!

...and make lots of money in investments and endorsements...
Can I have your autograph, Green Lantern?

[vikingjedi]

That wasn't a hole it was some kind of tattoo. In fact now that I think about it wasn't that the symbol that was on top of the orb?

Here are two shots I pulled from the scene:
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww274/Jace2011/Zod.jpg
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww274/Jace2011/Zod2.jpg

Sort of looks like Brainiac

[drvr8]

I dunno, that looked a lot like TW...there was that same "backside" shot of Tom in the hospital when he dropped his blanket/cape....???

We see Clark not acting like Clark at all with Chloe....I'm sorry, I do not think it was Clark....

The "twist" could be Zod inhabiting Clark.....

This episode confused the heck out of me.....I'm going to have to watch it again a bunch of times.....

The other interesting thing was Chloe giving Jimmy's brother the camera....last I heard, Jimmy's parents were raging alcoholics....perhaps this is really the "future" Jimmy...?

my head hurts.....

so they didn't invite any of Jimmy's family to the wedding but they made it to the funeral? Silly rabbits!

[SparkleforSmallville]

SW has said, TPTB had an idea to bring him back in S9. I guess he will be Zod.

[Emissary of Justice]

Sort of looks like BrainiacYou have faulty eyes, pal. James Marsters (Brainiac) doesn't have that kind of physique. He's always had a slim build. This guy has muscles. It's Sam (Doomsday).

[lexie2]

The guy is bald so I´d definitely go for Lex as Zod´s vessel once again. It isn´t MR´s body, of course; but it could be a body double. I wish I were wrong because these guys have already messed up with Superman´s mythos to last for more than a lifetime.:mad:

[CloisFan17]

yeah I am pretty sure that Sam will play him next season I am sooo excited

----- Added 55 Seconds later -----

& no he isn't bald take a look at the photo ;) or that clip again & you will see that the person isn't bald he has black hair

[Harrison_Bergeron]

No. That was definitely Zod's symbol. The Eradicator replaces Clark.

My theory is that they are meddling with Eradicator's origin.

My full theory here(SPECULATION): http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127384

[chlarker4eva08]

maybe when brainiac put davis/dd in the frozen thingy in the fortress he opened up something so that Zod can inhabit his body....or maybe not lol

[chlavisbug]

ZOD- pretty sure it was SW. hopefully this character will play out better than what they did to davis by ruining his character in the last minute...AARRGG

but still, love sam witwer

[Emissary of Justice]

The guy is bald so I´d definitely go for Lex as Zod´s vessel once again. It isn´t MR´s body, of course; but it could be a body double. I wish I were wrong because these guys have already messed up with Superman´s mythos to last for more than a lifetime.:mad:Bald?! You saw that and thought he looked bald? You really must be missing Lex.

[Darren5000]

Michael Rosenbaum RETURNS!

It has to be! He returns as Zod, and he invaded Luthor again!
Poor Lex!

[razta]

just watched the last scene in slow mo

it's a dude that came OUT of the ORB, the orb was floating on the lawn then after it expanded the logo on the back of the 'man' was the same one as the ORB.. could be the REAL ZOD, even though the actor must have been a body double for Sam
Witwer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/abdur1234/orb1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/abdur1234/orb2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/abdur1234/orbman.jpg

[spotteddog]

Yeah, I am totally not convinced that the guy was even supposed to be Zod.

[Lok]

I dont htink its Zod either, when I saw the Bald head my first thought was Lex, Lex is back in Season 9...... thats what I think

He was Zods Vessel thats probably why the symbol appeared

[razta]

Eradicator anyone?

[roccanater]

This is a very interesting topic. Lets hope it is revieled early on who this "Zod" is.

[computermaster]

it was lex [Mod edit]

[Super Maverick]

i think it was lex as zod

[Mr C EL]

Eradicator anyone?

I quoted this in another thread:

I personally think it was the Eradicator, coming from the Orb. I have a feeling that the connection with the Orb is directly related to Brainiac & Zod. In the book "Last Days of Krypton", Zod was the head of the Commission for Technology Acceptance. As we already know Brainiac is basically a follower of Zod trying to release him. In the comics, the Eradicator Program was was originally in the shape of an egg like sphere, so he was Technology to preserve the Kryptonian Race. My guess is when Brainiac bottled the city of Kandor he trapped the Eradicator program as well. My guess is that the Eradicator program has returned just like it did in the storyline of the "Death of Superman" story.

[spotteddog]

The Eradicator makes tons of sense to me, much more than Zod. And I don't see SW playing this role. My question - was this character supposed to be the "old/new" character? Because if so and if this guy is not Zod, who would fill that description?

[chloisfan]

Looks like they are going to get Sam Witwer to play Zod. The person in this image looks exactly like him.

[samanthalyn720]

Well Davis is supposed to be the spitting image of Zod, so even if it's not really Davis, it will probably be SW playing him.

[DarkClone]

it'll probably be SW playing the ORB character . . . I think that it could be ZOD in the body now . . . and that the Clark we saw with Chloe is one of the 4 copies that will have to be destroyed . . . remember, he didn't know how he survived, the real Clark might be recovering in the fortress as we speak

[Kar-olo]

>it'll probably be SW playing the ORB character . . . I think that it could be ZOD in the body now . . . and that the Clark we saw with Chloe is one of the 4 copies that will have to be destroyed . . . remember, he didn't know how he survived, the real Clark might be recovering in the fortress as we speak

Good point! That fits perfectly with the "dead of superman" idea, we can have Erradicator from the orbe, another superman with feels himself only kryptonian and hates the human part of Clark Kent... and perhaps some more. Who's the real Clark Kent can be a good starter of the next season as the Who's the real Superman was in comics.

[adromidon]

it was lex you idiots
no reason to call us idiots this is a speculatory thread after all

[Iluvgreen]

That is really werid. Sam will play Zod, though. I bet you anything.

[WalterK]

He was chanting "zod" which is an odd thing if the guy was Zod taking over Davis' body. Why would he chant HIS OWN NAME? On the other hand, if it is some follower of Zod who is now on a mission to free Zod, I can see how he would chant his master's name. Plus, haven't we seen Zod before (yes, we have). Why in heaven's name would the writers want to do the Zod story again, anyway?!

[SparkleforSmallville]

It seemed like the Zod chanting was eminating from the Orb.

With the dark hair and body type, I'm pretty sure it was SW.
CW will most likely post a S9 Cast list, at the Upfronts next week.

[rep4clark]

it's zod and i believe sam witer will be playing him

dont think so because they specifically said that whoever died in the season finale would not be comming back this time so i doubt that davis will be comming back to sv

[Liquid-Prince]

dont think so because they specifically said that whoever died in the season finale would not be comming back this time so i doubt that davis will be comming back to sv

No... The spoiler was two will die, and only one will stay dead.

[adromidon]

dont think so because they specifically said that whoever died in the season finale would not be comming back this time so i doubt that davis will be comming back to sv
there are loop holes they said that the charecter that died would stay dead not that the actor would not play a different charecter. Meaning if it is Zod in Davis's body Davis is dead and will not return thus technicaly it is a completely different charecter and thus they stayed true to their word that all charecters who die in the finaly stay dead

[mr lane]

there are loop holes they said that the charecter that died would stay dead not that the actor would not play a different charecter. Meaning if it is Zod in Davis's body Davis is dead and will not return thus technicaly it is a completely different charecter and thus they stayed true to their word that all charecters who die in the finaly stay dead

this is what ive been thinking ever since the doomsday trailer was leaked and the symbol of zod was shown

[givedaddy5]

I don't think it is Sam W. I think it was just CGI and they will cast an actor before next season.

[ghost369]

I could be wrong but i could have sworn i read somewhere that SW was out next season and they had a replacement actor. Also wasnt zod captured in that crystal that rya gave ck in the pz and then he took it to the old fos b4 it was destroyed so couldnt the orb have captured him b4 the fos came crashing down, just a thought i guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Tompouce]

To me, it was Sam Witner, I am pretty sure

[smallvillefreak24]

So sick of zod

[benjitk1]

hey i just joined and just wanted to add something. It probably won't be right but anywho. I was thinking the zod character could be played by the guy who played Lex (sorry forgot his name)

It sounds weird but hear me out, Lex has been inhabited by Zod before, he was the one who first used the orb and "attacked" Clark with it, so maybe part of him went into the orb (some dna or something) and i think it has been said by him that he would like to come back at sometime for a few episodes, but he wants to keep his hair and if he was playing lex again he'd wear a bald cap. So it is possible and it would sort of link up.

Anyways tell me what you think.

[luthorian]

The only positive aspect of the hideous finale was that they kind of left the door open for Sam Witwer to run for his life :lol: And I'd advice him to leave the sinking ship...
But I'm also pretty sure that was his...ummm... voice :p

[adromidon]

I could be wrong but i could have sworn i read somewhere that SW was out next season and they had a replacement actor. Also wasnt zod captured in that crystal that rya gave ck in the pz and then he took it to the old fos b4 it was destroyed so couldnt the orb have captured him b4 the fos came crashing down, just a thought i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
My theory on that is one of two things

1) when the crystal was destroyed (the one Raya gave him) Zod was sent back to the PZ

or

2) The crystal was a conduit for the PZ meaning all phantoms sucked into it were sent to the zone

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think the actor was Sam Witwer, but the character was Zod, Sam probably is going to have to grow some kind of goatee during the summer for the role.

[dokken-fan]

I have never read the comic books, so I know very little about the whole mythos, But someone mentioned the eradicator, and i checked it out in the internet, and it all conects, chech it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradicator_(comics)

[Luthor5339]

sorry but clark is not the eradicator nor a ghost. the answer is disturbingly obvious that he died a METAPHORICAL death as the writers blatantly already stated. Clark has killed his adoptive side to pave way for his birth right. he has to fully accept his heritage and merge it with who he is to become whole or a superman

[Boycott SF:Movie]

Hmmm. Maybe they are building up to something but.....he's not Superman yet so why does he keep fighting his greatest enemies as a "blur".

[xrayvision]

I doubt that was the Eradicator.

My thoughts are that he did die. Forget about the spoilers and just think about what Rokk said would happen. For all we know, metaphorical death could have been Jimmy since he supposedly was metaphorically Jimmy Olsen and not the real one.

[Luthor5339]

Two PHYSICAL deaths, Jimmy & Davis. One metaphoical, Clark. As an adoptee from two worlds who's looked into it and going through a similar crises. Clark right now & what he states could be an excellent text book example.

[dokken-fan]

I have never read the comic books, so I know very little about the whole mythos, But someone mentioned the eradicator, and i checked it out in the internet, and it all conects, chech it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradicator_(comics)

are you reading the link???!!!! take a minute and check it out. the whole storyline conects exactly with the Eradicator. forget zod, he is traped in the phantom zone.

[Luthor5339]

Was trapped, in the end the real Zod, not a vessel has been released thus ... "Zod is here."

[Superman of Krypton]

ARE You that naive?

Turn your closed captions on in the final scene and read what it says..

"Zod...Zod...Zod...Zod...ZOOOOODDDD!!!"

-_- it's not eradicator.. dont get your hopes up

[xrayvision]

I read the comics themselves and there wasn't a lick of development of the Eradicator prior to or in the episode. In the comics, the Eradicator existed as an egg-shaped device in the Fortress for years before it became a Kryptonian-like being.

So we have yet to see it from going like this:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/9/96/Adventures_of_Superman_460.jpg

to this:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/7/7a/ACTION690.JPG


Believe me, I want the Eradicator on this show more than anyone else. I've been wanting it for 4 seasons. But unless they plan to have him show up out of the blue and explain it in the premiere, I don't think it was him.

I was hoping they would show the battle, show Clark's dead body & then have Tess use black-k to split Kal-El from his Clark side and reveal the orb as the Eradicator and have it possess Kal-El's flight-capable body & revive him.

Here's the theory I wrote about this:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126752

I also wrote something else:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126682

I was hoping the orb would have been revealed to be the Eradicator. But they seem to be going in this stupid Zod direction. The Eradicator would have made much more sense and explained the original purpose of the orb in season 7.

[Weez-El]

As I said in another thread, "you can't have 'A Reign of the SuperMEN' without having a SuperMAN."

Zod, easy, simple.

[silveralex]

Eradicator would have been nice, but in Smallville mythos, they've already used Brainiac as Kryptonian technology that wanted Clark to embrace his Kryptonian heritage and create a New Krypton on Earth. Which is basically Eradicator's whole schtick - so really no point in having him now (unless he'd be very different)

[xrayvision]

Brainiac didn't really want to create Krypton on Earth on this show. He really wanted Zod freed and Zod wanted to destroy Earth after turning it into Krypton. I think the Eradicator would bring elements of Kryptonian life on Earth because it would think Clark wants this. Unlike Zod, I don't think its primary motive would be to destroy Earth and kill humans. I would like the Eradicator's attempts at bringing Krypton on Earth to be used to make Clark stop it/him at every pass so he could get experience in dealing with dangerous events like this but for Clark to learn how to control it/him so it/he becomes an ally and the guardian of the FOS.

Or perhaps they could have the reasoning behind its actions be to strengthen Clark and have him be like the ruthless Jor-El and have him overcome his current issues he has with the darkness in humanity. Saving humanity from the Eradicator's will would re-enforce his purpose in life. I would love to see him appear next season like I have for the last 4 seasons, but I don't think it will happen.

[Bizarro345]

I still hope that this is Eradicator and Clark and Doomsday are still fighting underground. Or better yet...heck with Eradicator...LET IT BE BIZARRO!!! YEAH!

[xrayvision]

Although, one thing that would make sense if that was the Eradicator was how in the comics, he was fuzzy of the recent events that happened in Superman's life and didn't have all the facts. We did see "Clark" fuzzy about how he got out.

I think it may be possible that the person we saw was the Eradicator, who was programmed to be released after Clark died underground, which would have happened offscreen.

Either way, I think Clark is dead and who we saw is either his spirit or the Eradicator.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

I am 90% sure that they are just manipulating Eradicator's origins. They are making Kem-El good, and Zod responsible for Eradicator being bad. This way Clark can still find a way to talk to Kem-El, go through the right of passage, and then use his "El" status to reprogram Eradicator.

The only question is who was Eradicator in the finale? If the body that developed on the mansion's lawn was the Eradicator then what body broke out of the vault? I really don't think the Clark that talked to Chloe was Eradicator, but I have no follow up theory as to who I think broke out of the vault.

[razta]

I am 90% sure that they are just manipulating Eradicator's origins. They are making Kem-El good, and Zod responsible for Eradicator being bad. This way Clark can still find a way to talk to Kem-El, go through the right of passage, and then use his "El" status to reprogram Eradicator.

The only question is who was Eradicator in the finale? If the body that developed on the mansion's lawn was the Eradicator then what body broke out of the vault? I really don't think the Clark that talked to Chloe was Eradicator, but I have no follow up theory as to who I think broke out of the vault.

well Tess' Security said that the Vault exploded from within - meaning the ORB came out by itself.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

The bodyless orb would have little reason to totally demolish the door the way it did. I am saying that it likely had a body at the time, but there is no reason to think that it had a Clark body.

[Liquid-Prince]

It was chanting Zod at the end so I don't know how you guys can be confused about the identity of the man at the end. DoomZod!

[SnowBird]

Zod's symbol on the ground + man standing in the middle = ZOD. Simple math:)

[Exedore]

Homer Simpson. :D

[Harrison_Bergeron]

It was chanting Zod at the end so I don't know how you guys can be confused about the identity of the man at the end. DoomZod!

Why would Zod be chanting his own name?

It aint Zod.

[Liquid-Prince]

Why would Zod be chanting his own name?

It aint Zod.

It was the crystal chanting Zod while a man was standing in the middle of the Zod symbol... Hmm, must be Chloe.

[Exedore]

Why would Zod be chanting his own name?

It aint Zod.

Coz he has an ego the size of Krypton. He is love with himself. :D

[dokken-fan]

you insist to say Zod was the one at the end of the finalle. Everything from the orb and the appearance goes sync with the Eradicator storyline, Look for the eradicator story and you'll find it. (can't tell you exactly where I read the story, last time my Thread was erased because if that!!!)

[dokken-fan]

Oh gosh why is it always Zod with these people. I know he is apparently a great villain in the comics but come on Smallville!

My thoughts exactly, they insist to say Zod was the one at the end of the finalle. Everything from the orb and the appearance goes sync with the Eradicator storyline, Look for the eradicator story and you'll find it. (can't tell you exactly where I read the story, last time my Thread was erased because if that!!!)

[dokken-fan]

I'll say Eradicator, the story of the orb and some other facts tell me so.

[Spirit Detective]

Jimmy's corpse

[Spirit Detective]

then why did the naked man scream zod?

[pibegardel]

Jimmy's corpse
Digging him up can't be any worse than what the writers did to him.

[pibegardel]

then why did the naked man scream zod?
...and the big 'Z' burned on the lawn...

[dokken-fan]

then why did the naked man scream zod?

First, you can not be sure if he said "Zod" he was just mumbling words. Second, asuming he did said Zod, maybe he was calling him, a dear friend or old lover :confused:.

[Davis Bloome]

And the Zod sign?

[LJ-90]

And the Zod sign?

Maybe it was a "I miss you" card?

[Davis Bloome]

Then he should send it, not just stand on it with his bare ass lol

[Davis Bloome]

I think it was a chippendaler...

[jpfort1957]

I'm sure it is Sam Witwer.

[Chloe Bloome]

Actually it IS the Eradicator, but he goes by the name Zod and we'll find out that at the season 9 finale :mad:

[LJ-90]

Then he should send it, not just stand on it with his bare ass lol

Hey maybe his "bare ass" was a present? :confused:
I don't know...he wants him back maybe?

[jpfort1957]

Zod has returned.

[Chloe Bloome]

I think the sign and voices saying Zod kinda gave it away, unless at the opening of the next season he turns around and goes 'Ha! Just kidding'

[dokken-fan]

And the Zod sign?

maybe Zod sent the Radicator to kill supes, dooms really didn't fall through

[Davis Bloome]

Hey maybe his "bare ass" was a present? :confused:
I don't know...he wants him back maybe? Aren't we going to deep into detail here... I don't think Zod has such interests... He had a wife, didn't he... I mean I don't know about the Eradicator's sexual interests, but seriously doesn't that guy know Tess is watching...

[Chloe Bloome]

maybe Zod sent the Radicator to kill supes, dooms really didn't fall through
Don't count on it my friend

[Davis Bloome]

maybe Zod sent the Radicator to kill supes, dooms really didn't fall through Sorry man, but I think you just desperately want it to be the Eradicator, while most points to it that it is Zod...

[pibegardel]

Maybe its Chloe PRETENDING to be Zod PRETENDING to be the Eradicator

[Chloe Bloome]

Sorry man, but I think you just desperately want it to be the Eradicator, while most points to it that it is Zod...
Yeah it would be damn silly to have all that set up and for it not to be Zod. Then again..... *thinks of the mess made in the season finale* Okay, now I'm worried :D

[Chloe Bloome]

Maybe its Chloe PRETENDING to be Zod PRETENDING to be the Eradicator
Ah ha! Of course!

[dokken-fan]

Actually it IS the Eradicator, but he goes by the name Zod and we'll find out that at the season 9 finale :mad:
:rotfl:i'm afraid of the future season finalles, so ???unpredictible???

[pibegardel]

Since this IS Smallville it has to be Zod. Why come up with something original (or a good take on a comic baddie) when you can re-hash a baddie from a previous season. I just hope they never use Darkseid, I'd hate to see what the Smallville version of Darkseid would be.

[samanthalyn720]

It's pretty obvious that it was Zod.
1. Zod was chanted over and over again
2. Zod's symbol was burned into the ground
3. naked guy= SW (I know it's not confirmed, but c'mon, it was him!)

[ManOfSteel87]

I think the sign and voices saying Zod kinda gave it away, unless at the opening of the next season he turns around and goes 'Ha! Just kidding'

Didn't you hear? DC would only let PS/BS bring Zod back into the show as long as they show that it's not the real Zod. This isn't General Zod, but Colonel Zod, General Zod's 2nd cousind twice removed on his mother's side by marriage. It will all be revealed during the premiere.

[Davis Bloome]

Yeah that's also something I agreed with Sam Witwer. He said that the Doomsday costume looked good, but they should have never have exposed it as fully as in 'Doomsday' cause it does look stupid. Kept partially in the shadows it looks more convincing and more scary so that's another part they screwed up...

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Didn't you hear? DC would only let PS/BS bring Zod back into the show as long as they show that it's not the real Zod. This isn't General Zod, but Colonel Zod, General Zod's 2nd cousind twice removed on his mother's side by marriage. It will all be revealed during the premiere.
:rotfl:

[Chloe Bloome]

Didn't you hear? DC would only let PS/BS bring Zod back into the show as long as they show that it's not the real Zod. This isn't General Zod, but Colonel Zod, General Zod's 2nd cousind twice removed on his mother's side by marriage. It will all be revealed during the premiere.
Right, it's official, Smallville has become Dallas. When JR shows up in the new season complete with Stetson, that's it, I'm out :p

[dokken-fan]

Sorry man, but I think you just desperately want it to be the Eradicator, while most points to it that it is Zod...

Like I said before, all that happened with the orb thing, clark wanting to be more allienish, the "whole civilization depends on it" that tess said. read the eradicators description. so many coincidences. Of course assuming that the writters know anything about the whole mythos!!!!

BTW in september I'll come back for next season's first episode thread and post I TOLD YOU SO look for it!!!!:cool:

[Davis Bloome]

:rotfl:i'm afraid of the future season finalles, so ???unpredictible???
I think you mean unpredictably stupid...

[Chloe Bloome]

Yeah and we'll find out that Clark isn't Kal-El, but instead Al-El, the goofy older brother. And that Zod and Jor-El were once bowling buddies and that Zod is actually Clark's father, and that Jor-El is Lois' father. The drama continues.....

[LJ-90]

Right, it's official, Smallville has become Dallas. When JR shows up in the new season complete with Stetson, that's it, I'm out :p
Smallville IS Dallas...

Probably by the end it turns out it was all a dream

[Chloe Bloome]

Smallville IS Dallas...

Probably by the end it turns out it was all a dream

Yep, next season Patrick Duffy (in the shower) as Zod, and JR as JR, a new supervillain never seen before in DC. And he'll fly around in a magic cadilac.

[ManOfSteel87]

Right, it's official, Smallville has become Dallas. When JR shows up in the new season complete with Stetson, that's it, I'm out :p


Smallville IS Dallas...

Probably by the end it turns out it was all a dream

"Who shot JR?" :)

[Chloe Bloome]

"Who shot JR?" :)

Zod, that's why JR shows up in this season for revenge.

[dokken-fan]

I think you mean unpredictably stupid...

there was no need for the name calling, don't be so ignorant and focus on the discussion, people like you make this whole dinamic less important. what a waste of a brain:(

[Chloe Bloome]

He was just being funny about the writing ;)

[Davis Bloome]

hey I wasn't referring to you as stupid... I was referring to the writers of this show...

[dokken-fan]

Is not fun when someone insults you

[Davis Bloome]

So you're one of the writers now?!

[Liquid-Prince]

He was standing in the middle of the Zod symbol...

[Chloe Bloome]

Is not fun when someone insults you
He wasn't insulting you, he was actually backing up what you said, in case you didn't realize :confused:

[pibegardel]

Is not fun when someone insults you
chill bro...

[ManOfSteel87]

Zod, that's why JR shows up in this season for revenge.

Then Lana and Sue Ellen show up, which sends Clark and JR looking for their manhood.

[dokken-fan]

sorry sometimes i am a little defensive, again sorry for the brain thing

[Chloe Bloome]

Yep, then Bobby (who looks exactly like Zod, we find out in a later episode they are long lost twins) has an affair with Lois.

[ManOfSteel87]

Yep, then Bobby (who looks exactly like Zod, we find out in a later episode they are long lost twins) has an affair with Lois.

But what Lois doesn't know is that Bobby also had and affair with Chloe that has resulted in a child which will Chloe names Lois, who will be revealed as the real Lois. The Lois we know finds out about the affair with Chloe and leaves SV to join Jimmy, Lionel, Jonathan, and the rest of the SV castoffs.

[pibegardel]

oh, oh, can Clark get a talking car?

[ManOfSteel87]

oh, oh, can Clark get a talking car?

Yes, Clark becomes the new Knightrider and drives KITT since it appears he will never fly. You see, Clark is actually the love child of Lara-El and David Hasselhoff and takes his place as heir to the Knightrider legacy. As it turns out this was his destiny all along, not Superman.

I'm having WAY too much fun with this :lol:

[pibegardel]

Yes, Clark becomes the new Knightrider and drives KITT since it appears he will never fly. You see, Clark is actually the love child of Lara-El and David Hasselhoff and takes his place as heir to the Knightrider legacy. As it turns out this was his destiny all along, not Superman.

I'm having WAY too much fun with this :lol:
:lol: thanks

[supermanofsteel.com]

My brain hurts - Soo many bad references all mashed together. Do you think the writers and producers are collectively shedding a tear right now? Or are they frantically writing down your suggestions for Season 9.

[ManOfSteel87]

My brain hurts - Soo many bad references all mashed together. Do you think the writers and producers are collectively shedding a tear right now? Or are they frantically writing down your suggestions for Season 9.

They are welcome to take these ideas and run with them all they want too. They are probably shedding a tear b/c they can't believe they didn't come up with any of this on their own.

The real villain next season will be an intergallactic baddie for Clark aka Superman aka Knightrider. We discover a spaceship crashed in SV from the planet Melmac. Out steps Clark's greatest challenge yet. . . ALF. Alf is here to join forces with Shelby to eat all the cats in Metropolis and Clark must stop them.

[Supsfan]

I am not sure why they don't go with a simpler villian like Intergang. You really don't need alot of special effects with them and it gives you a bunch of easy plotlines(ie good guy vs bad guy)

[pibegardel]

Alf is here to join forces with Shelby to eat all the cats in Metropolis and Clark must stop them.
Oh no! Chloe is 1/4 cat on her father's side!!!!

[ManOfSteel87]

Oh no! Chloe is 1/4 cat on her father's side!!!!

But Chloe is safe because she can surpress the cat hunger of ALF so she will stay with him and tell Clark she is doing it to protect him.

I think its safe to say that this thread has been hijacked

[pibegardel]

I think its safe to say that this thread has been hijacked
Yeah, but its a good kind of hijack. :)

[Serynarpc]

As long as Sam's back in any sense of the word, I'll take it. I did get a 'Zod' sense from it, but can't pinpoint why. I can't recall the variations of krypton symbols very well, but that looked close enough to Zod for me.

[johnr90]

hey everyone...hate to burst some bubbles here, but davis' human self is 100% gone off smallville. sam's contract is up and he will NOT be on smallville anymore... look it up. :)

[samanthalyn720]

hey everyone...hate to burst some bubbles here, but davis' human self is 100% gone off smallville. sam's contract is up and he will NOT be on smallville anymore... look it up. :)

Just b/c Davis died doesn't mean SW won't be back next year, new contracts can be signed. Listen to Cassidy Freeman's new interview, the guy asks her why they didn't show Sam's face at the end of the episode and you can tell she wasn't allowed to say anything about it and played it off like she didn't know who it was.

[Deana]

Other: Just a glorified cameo of a great character from the Superman Universe who will be raped of all dignity like Doomsday. This character will probably have a romance with a character he would have no qualms about killing in any Superman Universe except Smallville. His fight with Clark will not be worth the crap he put us through doing the season.

[kryptoniantodd]

I reckon that perhaps Zod used Davis's body to inhabit...and also that Doomsday isnt dead i mean he did go out kinda easy and clark survived..so

[Angelina2809]

well, i asked myself again and again who can be the men in the end of the finale!!!!
doomsday? the body of the dead doomsday? maybe zod is in doomsdays/davis body? or only zod???
zod can be alieve!!! i mean - we talking about smallville!!! everything can happen in smallville!!!

[SGuthrie27]

It's gotta be Zod, but it could be in Davis' body, possibly... LOL, some of the other options WERE pretty funny.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[CloisFan17]

I said Davis but it is also Zod

[WhoRU?]

Well why could it not be Shelby?

[Davis Bloome]

Yeah Zod was hiding in Shelby's body all along to spy on his arch-enemy. But now he knows how to defeat Clark and has taken human form thanks to the orb! I'm genius!

[bigblueplanet]

Who is that guy at the end?


Chloe’s new love interest.

[adromidon]

Chloe I think is not going to have a love interest for a while she has had so much disapointment and I think she may become guarded and reclusive about her feelings now

[F..l]

Chloe’s new love interest.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I think it's davis,because Zod is caught in Clark's talisman :)

[adromidon]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I think it's davis,because Zod is caught in Clark's talisman :)
Clarks crystal was destroyed and 2 what if the crystal was merely a portal to the PZ anyway

[harryandginnyfanatic]

The big Z is kind of a give away.

[F..l]

Clarks crystal was destroyed and 2 what if the crystal was merely a portal to the PZ anyway

when it was destroyed please ? I can't remember :o

[Sarrkazztic]

Tess told clark it was destroyed at the end of Injustice.

[adromidon]

when it was destroyed please ? I can't remember :o
Hmm i am trying to remember the exact episode I think it was when he first went up against bizarro in the season 6 finalie it turned white and was broken

Yeah that is when it broke he tried to imprision the phantom that became bizzaro and instead the crystal broke and the phantom took part of his DNA thus Bizzarro

[I_AM_LEX_LUTHOR]

'The man at the end of the episode was'

Kneel Before Zod!!!!

[S-hero]

I don't think that it was Davis. It was Zod, I guess. But Davis is son of Zod and somebody reckons that it was Davis.

[KKaLL]

it was obviously Obama. He is coming to teach clark a lesson.

----- Added 30 Seconds later -----

He wasn't saying Zod he said God as in Obama is God.

[VAILIMA]

Come on people it was obviously Sam Witwer in the buff

[F..l]

Hmm i am trying to remember the exact episode I think it was when he first went up against bizarro in the season 6 finalie it turned white and was broken

Yeah that is when it broke he tried to imprision the phantom that became bizzaro and instead the crystal broke and the phantom took part of his DNA thus Bizzarro

ou yes I remember ... you're right - it was in Phantom epizode :)
thanx for refreshing my memory ;)

[justme_007]

Well, now we can say that this man was Zod. right?

[black_adder24]

Lol, at the last choice.

Yep, Zoddie has been confirmed. Zoddie...hm..I might keep that.

[x20ArchAngel09x]

It's definitley Zod. I even had to think about how that was possible, which it totally is, for Zod was still trapped in the Phantom Zone, only his "mind" was put into Lex as his vessel, like Lionel as Jor-El's vessel.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

It was Shelby. :p

Wait, no, I forgot it was a girl.

[Selenatripox]

It's been confirmed that it was Zod by now. ;)

[tmchale1970]

it`s mason who will play zod.hurray my premenition powers have returned.it`s a miracle

[funky_town021]

its obvious by now who it is, but i think it wouldve been cool if it was davis but im content with what they have planned

and when i mean davis, i mean Zod reincarnated inside of Davis or something like that

[serdna]

Who is Eradicator?

[Liquid-Prince]

The new teaser trailer is badass. The guy who says kneel before Zod sounds just like Terrence Stamp.