Loved It? Hated It? What Did You Think Of "Doomsday?"

[KSiteTV]

This thread will open after the episode has aired.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

IMO it's now become one of the WORST Season Finale's ever for this show.

Majorly boring to boot

[O'Neill]

A big thumbs down from me on this one. Some very odd, weird, and strange stuff going on.

[od25star]

It sucked bad!!!

[KaleldaNole]

i disagree.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Season 10 happening, very doubtful

[thehenry89]

IMO it's now become one of the WORST Season Finale's ever for this show.

Majorly boring to boot

I agree. There was some good stuff at the begining but then they go and kill Jimmy and make clark give up like some whinny emo. When jimmy's blood is really on chloe's hands.

['Tonio09]

This finale was not good. At all. Waay to rushed.

[lm1212]

ITA. I had high hopes....

[Lauren_17]

The only thing that sucked about this episode was the commercials. I enjoyed it. Bart was back (yay!) and although Henry died (sad) and Clark Kent metephorically died (also sad) and Lois missing (sad) it brought a S9 arc that I think will be cool. With the watchtower office, I have a feeling that there will be more Justice League eps (I hope so, they need to bring Bart back again). I can't wait.

[STFanatic]

The thread is open, make your vote.

But remember, please keep it civil in here ;)

[lm1212]

0??? Okay, i'll vote when my heat simmers down. but right now? 0.

[Karafan1]

I really, really wanna give this episode a 10 but I was disappointed in the Clark/Doomsday fight or lack there of, so I'll give it a 9..

[Melekith]

I give this episode an 7. It had some GREAT scenes, such as the Lois/RBB phone scene, and then the Clark/Jimmy scene where Jimmy discoveres the truth.

And then it had a couple scenes that felt WAY out of context, such as the opening scene with that Legion guy. It felt really awkward that the episiode started with that and then never really went anywhere with it. Also, the Tess/Lois fight was EXTREMELY out of place. I have no idea why it was even scripted.

I really liked the tear that Oliver gave at Jimmy's funeral, and overall I think his character was very well-written for this episode (and the season for that matter).

As for Clark...I'm more confused than anything. So...Doomsday is dead? He is buried? He was "taken care of"? Clark accepting his kryptonian heritage is a plus, but what the hell does "Clark Kent is dead" mean? And no...I don't think that was Clark's ghost, as he and Chloe openly discussed Lois being missing.

Speaking of Chloe...these writers have GOT to figure out something to do with her. I'm sorry...but this whole parade of "doing what I can to protect Clark" is getting really stupid. He doesn't need to be babied anymore. Let her be watchtower...period.

And then there is Zod. Again? So we'll have a rehash of season 6 then?

[VisionGirl]

I do enjoy that when Chloe goes missing, Lois is frantic. When LOIS is missing Chloe... waits for Clark to maybe bring it up?

[PKII]

IMO it's now become one of the WORST Season Finale's ever for this show.

Majorly boring to boot

I almost turned the TV off it was soooo bad. This season was the worst season ever. I actually wish they would cancel Smallville. :\:(

[marcella]

1

Completely disappointed

[ims001]

0??? Okay, i'll vote when my heat simmers down. but right now? 0.

Yeah, we really need a poll with negative numbers. One just isn't low enough.:mad:

[LorelaiG]

Hate it!!

[Kal El 12]

Awful wish i could rate it a 0 the actors all did a good job.. but the script was brutal

[curare]

Okay, the deaths that occurred get two thumbs up from me...other than that, I think the finale could have, or should have, been at the very least 90 minutes. Too much was going on and I think some stuff was skimmed over...it left me feeling....ummm...not fully satisfied...yep, thats it...

[Lurchdaddy87]

Im giving it a 7, but I know a butt-load of people will give it a one bsed on the fact that the DD/Clark battle was to short and that they killed off Jimmy(Henry). I think this was a decent finale. It wasnt the best but the show is growing up we cant mass chaos as an ending, the more mature show now has emotional cliffhangers did you see the look in Clark's eyes when he said he couldnt find Lois. Chloe losing Jimmy, Oliver even cried. The show has grown and the cliffhangers the writers left us with are interesting enough to keep me on as a fan. The only thing I didnt in the whole episode was the short battle between DD/Clark, but like I posted before if the battle would have been longer Clark would have died. Now we know how Doomsday got in the ground.

[Aile]

1

I was really dissapointed. It didn't live up to my expectations, which is depressing. I didn't like the way the whole Chloe and Davis thing was resolved, and I really didn't like the last scene of her and Clark. Really, they are turning her into a tragic character!

[spideyfan]

it was...i had high hopes since this series always delivers on the finales...bad bad bad...

[PKII]

Did anyone actually like this episode? I wish I could rate it -10 but 1 had to do. :(

[disciples of zod]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

I'm sooooooooo sad. Number 1: i could have SWORN that Jimmy signed on for season 9. in fact, i'm pretty sure he did. but...what. the. CRAP? like REALLY?

2. Clark. what is his deal? he's a ghost? seriously? the last 5 minutes completely lost me.

3. who would like to explain naked guy wailing "Zod" in the end? was it zod? i'm so confused!! :confused:

overall, i liked it, but unlike all the other season finales, i was not sitting on the edge of my seat.

as an episode: really good. as a finale: could have been SOOO much better!

8/10

~K

[jwm]

I didn't hate it but the "Really? They call THAT a season finale?" just fits so well I had to give it a 1. This is a testimony to why you don't kill of secondary characters in the finale. Good grief if Jimmy was the one to die why couldn't they have just done it in 21 and given us a real finale?

[Cyclonekat]

1.

seriously.

Lois was in it for about 5 minutes and they freaking killed Jimmy Olsen.
Anger.
Lots of Anger.

[griffolyon12]

10. I enjoyed the episode. Sure the budget cuts did limit certain things such as the big fight, but all-in-all it was a satisfying episode. I really don't get why so many people hated it. Guess different things satisfy different people.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

8/10

If the Doomsday fight was longer (and better), I would have given it a 9/10.

[Saber]

I felt kinda short changed; the fight between Lois and Tess was epic compared to Clark & Doomsday.
It was a BIG MEH!…so I gave it a flat 7.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

I do enjoy that when Chloe goes missing, Lois is frantic. When LOIS is missing Chloe... waits for Clark to maybe bring it up?

I noticed that too, it's a running theme on this show. Chloe acts like she only loves Lois when it's convenient for her. I wonder if she'd even grieve if something happened to Lois. She sure doesn't act like Lois is her cousin

[Supsfan]

1

I was really dissapointed. It didn't live up to my expectations, which is depressing. I didn't like the way the whole Chloe and Davis thing was resolved, and I really didn't like the last scene of her and Clark. Really, they are turning her into a tragic character!

The Lanafication is complete :P

I give it a 6. I expect more out of Season enders myself, I might have been more fogiving if it was a regular season episode and gave it s slightly higher score. It had it's good moments but it could be better. The Chloe/Jimmy/Davis scene knocks off one point

The whole Jimmy death was pointless(almost saying it was a mistake bringing him on the show)

[hyped1]

I wish I could rate it ONE! Is there a .5 option? WORST FINALE EVAR! Not one single redeeming quality and yes, I have been an avid watcher since season one and have enjoyed ALL other finales to some degree but this was just complete and utter waste of time, effort in making it, you name it! No reason to any of it other to emo clark up a again and put us back in season 2 territory! Just bring back Lana while you're at it guys, we never move forward on this show! We got none of the promises fullfiled! No fight, death was pointless, heroe inclusion was pointless, all of it was just horrible. Please correct me if I am wrong and show me the light as it's going to be at least 4 months before we see another new Smallville episode and I need something to hold onto!

[Melekith]

I'm knocking my original rating down to a 5. I think 5 is fair.

[DAISHI]

This is an episode that needed to be stretched out over two or three episodes, too much for one episode, and the Doomsday fight was lame... bad ending to what I thought was a good season.

[MetroGirl06]

6/10. Really could've been better. At the end of it all I just kind of stared at the screen going: "HUH?!"

Good twist though for killing Jimmy/Henry. Didn't see it coming. I give them props for surprising me.

[Kal-Elllllll]

just because people died doesnt make it a bad episode. the writers never came out and said this is THE jimmy olsen from the comics. i wouldnt be surprised if they had his death planned from the beginning. lois with the ring disappearing intrigued me and will definitely make me tune in next season. if anything this was one of the best smallville season finales even with the short doomsday fight. in the comic doomsday is awakened from underground......errr they just buried him underground. i see the writers are trying to retcon some of the stuff they have done and i believe they will line up with the mythos when smallville is finished permanently.
i really liked this episode. if your favorite character died or disappeared.....get over it damn.

[DAISHI]

I'm really down for them making Ollie the new Lex, though.

[brettlee93]

1

Completely disappointed

Definitely a 1. Killing Jimmy was the stupidest thing they could do they totally screwed up the mythology and what happened to doomsday doesnt make any sense whatsoever. That end part with clark, he would never do that in any "superman" incarnation and it also made no sense at all. Who the heck was that at the end???? This is definitely the worst smallville season finale ever and quite possibly the worst in the history of tv. If I wasn't a huge fan and would watch no matter what as long as tom is on I would maybe stop watching.

[tyson08]

Incredible. I loved it.

I loved how they handled Jimmy's/"Henry's" death and the real Jimmy Olsen is actually his younger brother. In the comics Jimmy is much younger than Clark and Lois, this was great! I'm excited to see what actually happened to Lois and where she is. Chloe will use the house as the 'Watchtower'. Where the hell is Oliver, Dinah and Bart? Clark Kent is dead?! Zod is back but what is going to happen to Tess?!

My only complaints are that the Doomsday/Clark fight should have been longer but they are saving that for when he is actually Superman. This episode NEEDED to be longer because it felt rushed and there was SOOOO much more that needed to be shown that happened in 'offscreenville'.

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

I gave it a 10...OVERALL I thought it was one of the best finales that I have seen..there was a lot of emotion and a lot more darkness than ever before. Even CK was this completely different person than we have had in the past. I really think they should have made this into a 2 hour finale. That way it would not have felt so rushed and all the info they were throwing us could have been easier digested. I did get a little confused towards the end, but Im assuming the unanswered questions are what we will be getting answers to in Season 9. I agree that they seemed to be leaning towards using Jimmy's little brother as the DP Jimmy that we all know about. Makes sence since CK told him, the Now dead Jimmy, his secret. That and the fact they made a point to tell us that his first name was Harold and Jimmy ws his middle name. I would have liked to see a little more Clois interaction, not necessarily romantically but just more dialogue between them. The fight scene between Tess and Lois was amazing. This epi was a bit more grusome that we are used to but afterall this epi Is called "Doomsday". I can't wait to see what Season 9 has in stored for us. Sure there was some confusion at the end fo rme but I think the overall acting, scenery, special effects, darker feel, and writting made it a 10 for me.

[BeldarofRemulak]

3 Didn't like it. No one made sense. No idea what was going on through half of it...very choppy.

[Ella]

I'm torn. I loved a lot of it on a metaphorical level. Thought the Chimmy was amazing and beautiful but I didn't like Davis becoming all psychotic like that. It was strange though not unexpected obviously as he was a serial killer. If Jimmy is really dead then this episode loses major points. I won't vote until I know for sure!

[TayLaneBloom]

i'm really disappointed.

i used to think that "Arctic" was the worst SF in Smallville, but after watching "Doomsday" i changed my mind!
this really sucks..

and i really hope that that stupid ending with Clark and Chloe will have a better explanation. For me, that wasn't Clark, was the Eradicator. and i really hope it was!

I kinda liked the explanation for Jimmy's death, with his younger brother getting the camera. that was nice, but i wish Jimmy wasn't the one dead in the end.

and i can't wait to see where Lois went!
it's kinda cool, imagine her coming back, god know from where, and the real Clark coming back too..

oh.. well... i didn't liked this episode. doesn't look like a season finale at all.

let's hope for a better 9th season!

[moviefan2k4]

There wasn't an option in the poll for decimal points, so I just gave "Doomsday" a 9. But in truth, I think it's closer to 9.995. I rarely if ever) give any film or TV show a 10, because to me that means there's no room left for improvement. This was an extremely remarkable episode, and it'll definitely be a challenge to top it. :D

[John EL]

8/10 It was a good stand alone episode but since it was a finale I was expecting a little more of a fight with doomsday. I guess they had to make room for the Lois fight and ran over budget.

[Carolina87]

I've been waiting so long for this finale just like everyone else but it just didn't cut it.
I gave it a 1. why?

1. Clark vs Doomsday...was that really it? :rolleyes:
2. Non D-day Davis killed Jimmy? that just didn't seem right :(
3. Lois Lane disappears and Clark's all like "Chloe I can't find Lois..." :mad: oh hell no!!
4. WTF is up with the naked man outside of Tess room?? ZOD?? :cool:

yeah i give it a well deserve UNO :o

[RedKRules]

Rate: 0 = T.e.r.r.i.b.l.e m.a.j.o.r. L.e.t.d.o.w.n

[curiosity]

3 Didn't like it. No one made sense. No idea what was going on through half of it...very choppy.

What do you expect when they swipe half the show runners who made Smallvlle great the first half of the season?

That said, it was a pretty good episode. I wish we could have known why and when the Justice League disappeared.

I'm hoping for lots of Lois and Clark next season. I'm really liking them, but the problem is...there isn't much of them. One of the best moments was when Jimmy stepped on Lois' hand because she was already in Tess' office snooping, classic.

But then they killed Jimmy. Are they trying to say Jimmy's little brother is going to be Jimmy? How will that work, how would they have the same name? Maybe he will take over next season as Jimmy?

[Hakoon]

I gave it a 2.

The Good:

I liked the grass in the background...it was nice and green in that one scene.

The Bad:

Honestly, they should have used the Director's cut of the Clark/DD "fight"...at least it would have been worth watching again. We were told by more than one source that this fight was going to be "HUGE"...there wasn't even a fight!! A fight implies that Clark would retaliate...he pulled a football rush on him and thats it. Pathetic.

The "quintessential" Clois scene to make us forgive Erica's lack of episodes...I'm still waiting for that Matt from EW (Or whatever magazine). Don't tease us with something that isn't in the episode.

Why did they bother having Bart/Dinah there? Bart was underutilized big time...we didn't even get to see them do anything but stand around and say a couple things.

Clark blaming himself again for all that goes wrong in the world. Seriously man...If I catch a cold next winter, I'm suing Clark Kent....that jerk is responsible for blurring by me and therefore giving me a blast of cold air so its his fault. Gimme a break PS1, 2, 3 etc...gimme a flipping break!!

I didn't really care a lot for the Jimmy Olsen torch being passed to the younger brother mainly cause I really liked AA in this show.

Tess and the orb with Zod? I mean seriously...zod? Intergang would have been much better IMO of course.

Lois dissapearing...I know thats their cliffhanger but that is just bad writing IMO.


I came back to this show for Season 8 for 2 things. Lana being gone and DD coming in. I was dissapointed by both this season since "it" came back and the DD thing was a much hyped piece of crap. If they don't blow me away in the premiere, I will be gone for good. I know I'm just 1 viewer but there are many with the same opinion I bet.

[disciples of zod]

10. I loved it! Although the end was a bit confusing...it was still good. The beginning was a little hard to follow, but then BLAM! Awesomeness.

~H

[susangail]

Wow. I gave it a 10.

Loved the Jimmy resolution. The Davis irony. Clark's declaration.

The only part I didn't like was that pesky last scene. Oh, please. Sigh.

[Smallville6]

If there was an optoin below 1, I would have picked that.

[akaLane]

1. I'm sorry, but that "twist" with Jimmy? Completely ridiculous and utterly disrespectful.

[warriorrenegade]

WOW! How uneventful this episode turned out to be.

Clark continues to blame himself for everthing that happens to everyone...ever. He now blames "HUMANITY" for all of his problems:lol:and here I thought it was his Destiny. Or was it Jor-El. I forget.:confused:

And did you guys see that EPIC fight...er..no, wait...What fight? Such a waste.:rolleyes:

Also is Clark Kent dead? :lol: Seems fitting really, seeing how this show has already killed Superman. What a joke.:mad:

That's it short review...4 out of 10.

[colibri]

If I could give this a negative rating I would.

Wow, that was the epic fight between Clark and Doomsday? Tess and Lois' fight was better, a lot better. I'm amazed because it started of well, with a lot of tension but then it just got so idiotic and boring actually.. And Chloe really is the new Lana. She has committed all sorts of felonies and betrayed the JLA and she's not in jail but in the Watchtower!? Ollie is a complete idiot for that and totally reversed his stance. Clark was a whiner once again. It's all his fault when it was really all Chloe's fault but she's a saint now, apparently. Then they retcon Jimmy so they can kill him. Yeah, this was bad.

And I thought Power and Requiem were bad.

You know they are doing a complete reset like nothing in the past 8 years happened. Lois is going to come back and not know Clark at all and he's going to be the bumbling idiot version of Clark. So much for originality.

[Chiriru]

Not showing Clark's fight and Clark's death? LAMEST thing ever. Then to not have the guts to kill one of the vets (AM or ED) but to kill the semi-vet and then not even own up that they killed Jimmy Olsen? Adding even more lame.

If one is going to off a character, really off a character. Stand by it. Use a time travel ring to reset it, if need be. But be honest in the offing of the character. Don't kill one and then change it after the fact as a "ha ha, but not really."

But man. It's called Doomsday and it was about moving Jimmy to a place where he had enough of an uptic to die rather than Clark, I don't know, fighting DOOMSDAY.

Lame.

[spideyfan]

1.
I have never gave any episode below a 6. This was bad. For a finale it was unacceptable. The fight was disgusting, the plot movement was lame. the sacrifices were rushed...just poorly executed overall...i hope they say this never happened (hopefully something to do with the flight ring and lois) and hopefully the opener fixes everything else i may not watch the rest of the series...disappointed...

[balzak]

I agree the ghost thing was pretty weird. It makes me wish that millar and gough would come back. More than anything I wish Rosenbaum would return. Sniff. There really wasn't a doomsday fight. The fight with clark versus the keywatchi back in season 3 was much better. Clark got hit by a tree!

[Lori Lemaris]

This is a complete disappointment. It wasn't the finale that people are expected.

Lois? Geeze, she was barely in the finale, perhaps 2 minutes maximum.

The doomsday vs. clark was like, WTF? Don't they have enough budget for it.

[mty09]

I give it a solid 6 because the special effects was awesome and Clark was Supermanish. The good: The CGI, Clark finally stepped up to Oliver, Jimmy was cool again, Zod is back! And the rbb/lois scene. The bad: WTF? Clark is a ghost now???? THEY KILLED JIMMY! The fight between CK and DD, I understand the budget but C'mon it was overhyped! Where was Lois? This episode was rushed. But overall, it wasn't the best but a entertaining finale and it was way better the the "Lex vs Clark showdown" in S7.

[lm1212]

I gave it a 2.

The Good:

I liked the grass in the background...it was nice and green in that one scene.

The Bad:

Honestly, they should have used the Director's cut of the Clark/DD "fight"...at least it would have been worth watching again. We were told by more than one source that this fight was going to be "HUGE"...there wasn't even a fight!! A fight implies that Clark would retaliate...he pulled a football rush on him and thats it. Pathetic.

The "quintessential" Clois scene to make us forgive Erica's lack of episodes...I'm still waiting for that Matt from EW (Or whatever magazine). Don't tease us with something that isn't in the episode.

Why did they bother having Bart/Dinah there? Bart was underutilized big time...we didn't even get to see them do anything but stand around and say a couple things.

Clark blaming himself again for all that goes wrong in the world. Seriously man...If I catch a cold next winter, I'm suing Clark Kent....that jerk is responsible for blurring by me and therefore giving me a blast of cold air so its his fault. Gimme a break PS1, 2, 3 etc...gimme a flipping break!!

I didn't really care a lot for the Jimmy Olsen torch being passed to the younger brother mainly cause I really liked AA in this show.

Tess and the orb with Zod? I mean seriously...zod? Intergang would have been much better IMO of course.

Lois dissapearing...I know thats their cliffhanger but that is just bad writing IMO.


I came back to this show for Season 8 for 2 things. Lana being gone and DD coming in. I was dissapointed by both this season since "it" came back and the DD thing was a much hyped piece of crap. If they don't blow me away in the premiere, I will be gone for good. I know I'm just 1 viewer but there are many with the same opinion I bet.



:lol: yes, the grass absolutely stole the show.

[Johniam22]

Can someone say anticlimatic??!!! I don't think you'll have to worry about us being civil to other posters,but the writers on the other hand...I'm sorry that was absolutely HORRIBLE.

[Malicieux Toutou]

The worst season finale that Smallville has had. They just tried to cram too much in, and consequently the episode lacked focus and pacing. Jimmy dies, and then suddenly we skip ahead a few days to his funeral and brush aside all of the other important stuff that was going on. What exactly happened to Doomsday again? Then suddenly right after the funeral Chloe tells Clark that Dinah, Bart, and Oliver have disappeared and it was up to her and Clark to bring them home. When did they disappear Chloe? You just saw them at the funeral.

And please stop with the phone conversations between RBB and Lois? These are quintessential Lois/Clark moments? Gimme a break. If you can't give us the real thing, then don't bother.

[Heilige]

There wasn't an option in the poll for decimal points, so I just gave "Doomsday" a 9. But in truth, I think it's closer to 9.995. I rarely if ever) give any film or TV show a 10, because to me that means there's no room left for improvement. This was an extremely remarkable episode, and it'll definitely be a challenge to top it. :D



Could you please elaborate on why you thought the episode was so good?

[antx]

I'd say a 9.This finale was amazing!The dialogue was incredible with all the characters.The only thing that disappointed me was the fight.It should have been much longer and epic.The Lois/Tess fight though was just wow.They fought so well,it looked really good.Everything played out so well.The Jimmy twist was so creative.I am really pissed that we no longer get Aaron on the show,but I loved the way they handled his death.And the whole Clark not believing in humanity and "there is no Clark Kent".I knew that would happen.I always read that in fanfics where he believes his human emotion holds him back,so he is just Superman.I can't wait to see how Clark will be in season 9.

[luvinChlark]

WOW! How uneventful this episode turned out to be.

Clark continues to blame himself for everthing that happens to everyone...ever. He now blames "HUMANITY" for all of his problems:lol:and here I thought it was his Destiny. Or was it Jor-El. I forget.:confused:

And did you guys see that EPIC fight...er..no, wait...What fight? Such a waste.:rolleyes:

Also is Clark Kent dead? :lol: Seems fitting really, seeing how this show has already killed Superman. What a joke.:mad:

That's it short review...4 out of 10.

ITA! All the hype with a gigantic letdown! So lame.
So many OOC/plotholes.
1 for me.

[ClarkSupportsOrganic]

Hmmm, my thoughts:

I agree with the season finale being a bit anti-climactic. It was weird for the burying/defeat of Doomsday to occur off-screen with the explosion. I don't think it was as grand as a lot of the finales.

Having said that, the emotional impact was pretty good. The whole philosophical idea of vigilante justice came to a head and this time Clark felt he was mistaken, rather than his side winning out. It sure took a lot for Clark to finally side with Jor-El. The whole 'leaving friends behead' thing was corny because you know Clark's going to interact with Chloe and the gang soon. It'll be interesting how they show Clark come back though.

And Chloe and Jimmy.... he certainly went out a hero. The whole "Jimmy" brother was a neat twist and, as some have pointed out, does clear up the age differences. It's a little of a stretch with all the bow tie references and the talk of Jimmy's 'deadbeat' family though. The Davis twist was kind of scary actually- to see how he was still a monster- certainly a bit gory. I'm not sure I bought Chimmy 100%. I mean, Jimmy was right that she never trusted him to tell him the truth and even treated him childishly at times. So, Chloe's confessions of love seeeemed a bit of a stretch. Still, the loft idea was rather sweet.

Kind of a so-so finale.... but eager to see the direction Smallville takes in the next season.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I hate it. First they kill Lex now they kill Jimmy? Now Clark says he's dead? I hate this show honestly.

Oh wait yeah they set up his little borther to return when Clark becomes Superman. I'll bet he calls himself Jimmy right? Whta crappola. I might not watch next year.

[Colt___45]

I miss the good old days where we had finales like Clark running into a tornado, Chloe getting blown up, etc. This finale was horrible, reused special effects, complete lack of Lois time, multiple retcons, and the list goes on.

[halvor311]

Omg I can't believe it. I feel cheated. An EPIC battle means MORE than just a grabbing and a few punches. An EPIC battle is Clark vs. Bizarro, EPIC means that it's LONG and TENSE. This was no epic battle. It was barely a battle. Very creative with Jimmy though. Sucks Davis had to go psycho, it would've been better if he'd died by the hand of Doomsday. And I don't know what's up with Clark either. It doesn't make much sense. Overall, I gave this a 4. For any other episode, it would get a 7 or 8, but the amount of hype that went into this and the expectations that it built were not even close to met except for that scene with Doomsday and Clark. I don't think a Season 10 will happen unless they hire the T:SCC writers to do it b/c Smallville seriously needs to get stepped up. I really like the idea of Lois being sent to the future. Maybe she's the one that makes Clark rediscover man kind. I also loved Jimmy finding out Clark's secret the way he did, and I really don't like that it was him that died and his brother is the one that becomes the Jimmy Olsen we know and love. I'm going to watch Season 9, but part of me thinks this episode needs to get redone. And Season 9 had better be amazing. This finale was an awful ending to an amazing season.

[Theshadow129x]

it was actually one of the best finale's and there have been alot of bad ones on Smallville's behalf. this was actually one with alot of drama. They did a great job.

[superhippie2000]

i really enjoyed it but i do agree that we didnt really get anything major like earlier seasons where all the characters were doomed. would of been a better cliffhanger to end with jimmy getting attacked then attacking dvis and clark being blown up in the warehouse and then having "zod" appear. would of made us wonder more about what happened to everyone.

[hamburgers]

rated it an 8. At first I thought It was kinda lame. What with the fight scene and all, but after letting it sink in and understanding that jimmys liittle brother is the real jimmy olsen and that the fight scene will prob be explained in the next season I thought it actually a pretty good ending for season 8. Paving the way for the real superman in season 9 and loise and clark..

[samanthalyn720]

I'm pretty upset at how Davis's story ended. The whole season they had me feeling sorry for him and wanting him to be seperated from DD. Finally when that happens, they reunite the most boring couple on earth, turn Davis into a complete psycho, kill Jimmy, then kill Davis. Wow... a complete and utter letdown. Even if there is a way to bring Davis back on next year with the whole Zod storyline, there is no way to redeem him after that. So sad.

Not to mention the fight scene was what, a grand total of 2 minutes??

[brandon99116]

This finale was horrible, they spent the whole season building up clark vs doomsday and we got a 20 sec fight scene? if thats what you even wanna call it. None of the cliff hangers made sense, louis time traveled? tess has nothing to do with zod coming back? and clark disappearing? this was bad. real bad.

[Lilah]

The Tess/Lois fight was better than the Clark/Doomsday fight.... and was that flight?? I can't wrap my head around this episode... I'm still mourning Jimmy....

[Tatiana]

wow I am amazed by so many people hating this finale....I am afraid to say anything now lol

[Minela]

I was only disappointed with the lack of Lois and the lack of an underground fight between Doomsday and Clark.

[rebecavaldez]

I give it an 8. It was intresting....BUT
kill Jimmy? Don't do that!
where's Lois? Seriously!
davis turn into a jerk? That is so not cool.
clark goes emo? I don't want him being my superman!

[Seeya'round Smallville]

1 because there's no option for negative infinity. Way to spit on everything Aaron Ashmore has done for you for 3 years. Lois disappears at 7:30? And doesn't get another scene before the episode ends? Seriously? On what planet did you, Brian & Kelly, you galactic MORONS, think that ANYONE other than Chloe worshipers would like this piece of crap?!

Clark fans? Pissed.
Lois fans? Pissed.
Jimmy fans? SUPER PISSED.
Oliver fans? Pissed.
Tess fans? Pissed.
Hell, even Davis fans, cause well, he's dead too? Pissed.

Just rename the damn show Chloeville and be done with it. Erica was forced to miss one of the 13 episodes you paid her for so you could fit in Beast and Injustice to lead up to THIS? Chloe gets off scott-free and is lauded by the idiots around her as a "hero" when she's the one responsible for Jimmy and her psycho serial killer being dead? What the hell? God. Just fire yourselves. Give the show to Tom and fire yourselves.

Erica Durance, Tom Welling, Justin Hartley, Cassidy Freeman, writer Bryan Q. Miller, writer Caroline Dries (yes really). You can thank these six people for being the only reason I watch your piece of crap show. I hope you realize the majority of your audience HATED Lanaville and they HATE Chloeville. Stop shoving it down our throats. Remember the first ten episodes of this season? Give us that. Give us the 3 episodes (15, 17, 19) after Thanksgiving that were actually worth a damn. And stop with your retcon GARBAGE.

It'll be a long summer. FIX IT. You somehow think you're gonna get a Season 10? Not by pissing off Superman fans. GET BENT.

[LoveHurts38]

1 I'll just stay mute for right now.

[quiet_fractures]

I agree. It was horrible. Predictable. Just not good.

[Tatiana]

I'm pretty upset at how Davis's story ended. The whole season they had me feeling sorry for him and wanting him to be seperated from DD. Finally when that happens, they reunite the most boring couple on earth, turn Davis into a complete psycho, kill Jimmy, then kill Davis. Wow... a complete and utter letdown. Even if there is a way to bring Davis back on next year with the whole Zod storyline, there is no way to redeem him after that. So sad.

Not to mention the fight scene was what, a grand total of 2 minutes??


I stopped feeling sorry for Davis in Eternal, I knew he was being too manipulative and evil with Chloe, obsessed psycho, I did want to see more of the fighting and I am confused in why or how Clark doesn't really know how he survived....creepy

[tyson08]

Disagree, it was one of the better finales.

[Mrs. Superman]

I really wish there was a ZERO option. What a horrible finale.

And the JO "twist"? Well of course the audience isn't gonna see that one coming since he's been referred to as JBO many times before, and now all of a sudden he's HENRY??? WTF. Since WHEN? And why wasn't he called Henry at his wedding? WHAT A LOAD OF S---! Worst finale ever and I'm not certain I want to stick around next season....this might be worse (in fact I think it is) than the P/R arc. Straight GARBAGE.

[STFanatic]

I will need to crank up the DVR before I decide, for the first watching it seemed like a mid season filler :\
Surely I missed something in there.

[LoveHurts38]

I hated the finale...I did not see Clark fight even defend himself...it's like if I'm dead I'm dead.

[VicNew]

I was so disappointed with this finale! I assumed the Doomsday fight wouldve been nothing short of spectacular and IT WASN'T! I feel so cheated! I feel like when you kickin it wit a hot ass chick and everything is vibin', you thinkin it's on cause you know it's about to be then BAM!!!! NOTHING!!!!! What the hell?
Zod's return seems promising but I don't know....I'm losing faith! Something has to give cause right now Smallville is not in my Top 5 shows. It use to be #1.
I'll keep watching cause I'm a fan but I just don't know....

[samanthalyn720]

I stopped feeling sorry for Davis in Eternal, I knew he was being too manipulative and evil with Chloe, obsessed psycho, I did want to see more of the fighting and I am confused in why or how Clark doesn't really know how he survived....creepy


I actually liked Davis in "Eternal". He could've told Chloe that she keeps DD away instead of asking her to help him die. He was noble in that episode. And then in "Beast" he goes all fatal attraction and refuses to go to the PZ b/c he can't leave Chloe. The writers just completely changed his character after "Beast" to me.

[terri7015]

1. WHERE'S MY CLOIS SCENE THAT SUPPOSED TO MAKE ME FORGIVE LANA... ew FOR Coming back?
2. Jimmy's Dead?!? *cries* His brother? WHAT! UH NO that's NOT working for me. :(
3. Clark barely even cared that Lois was gone?... jerk
4. Clark disappears???? What?
UGGGHHHHHHH THEY HAD A GOOD IDEA (I guess) IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH TO FIT INTO AN EPISODE.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I have to say I was pretty disappointed with this episode. What was the point of building up this Clark and Doomsday fight the entire season, and then make it this tiny little scene? I understand they have a small budget, but come on... They've been teasing this fight the entire season, and we get nothing. :(

The Jimmy twist was interesting, but I think that they've changed his name to make this retcon work, and I'm going to miss AA. Also, Davis didn't make any sense. His life was just made normal again, and so he starts screaming about nothing being able to save him? Okay...

I think there must have been some cut scenes or something, because Chloe's line about Ollie, Bart and Dinah disappearing made no sense. I was also confused by the orb business. I hope this is explained next season.

The episode wasn't all bad, though. I liked Dinah, Bart and Rokk returning. The Lois/Tess fight was cool, and I like Lois's cliff-hanger. I LOVE the Zod twist. I was pleased with Clark for most of the episode.

7/10.

[Chlarky]

No, I agree wit the OP's comment. This WAS the worst and lamest Finale we've ever had. The JLA Was misused, Lois was barely in the episode,

and to top it off I hate how they are revisiting ZOD once again. Can't they do something else?

Where's my intergang and Darkseid? How about Metallo at least.

----- Added 35 Seconds later -----


I was so disappointed with this finale! I assumed the Doomsday fight wouldve been nothing short of spectacular and IT WASN'T! I feel so cheated! I feel like when you kickin it wit a hot ass chick and everything is vibin', you thinkin it's on cause you know it's about to be then BAM!!!! NOTHING!!!!! What the hell?
Zod's return seems promising but I don't know....I'm losing faith! Something has to give cause right now Smallville is not in my Top 5 shows. It use to be #1.
I'll keep watching cause I'm a fan but I just don't know....

The fight was absolutely LAUGHABLE!!

[Larel]

All I want to know is why the hell did Clark not seem to care that Lois was missing, hello she didn't take a flight to Fiji, she's been freaking sapped somewhere that I am guessing is not a whole lot of fun.:\

I guess Clark would rather play dead than look for her, so much for his feelings then. :rolleyes:

[O'Neill]

Yep. It wasnt anything to get excited over... although the cat fight between sexypants and the redheaded queen was.... meow!!

[brettlee93]

I will need to crank up the DVR before I decide, for the first watching it seemed like a mid season filler :\
Surely I missed something in there.

I usually rewatch the awesome stuff but i deleted it off my dvr right away since it was a steaming pile of garbage. The new producers should be fired.

[ZODisGOD]

This is most definitely one of worst finales. Clark and Doomsday didn't fight at all. Chloe didn't die. Too much drama and lacking action. cliffhangers not exciting.

[Lost Son of Krypton]

This episode blowed.

[tibbit78]

I was deeply disappointed in this finale. They killed off Iconic Jimmy Olsen!! I didn't like this episode at all. How could they do that: Kill off Iconic Jimmy Olsen?

The only thing that I did like was Clark telling Jimmy his secret, saying, "You were right about me all the time, Jimmy. You were right about me and you were right about Davis Bloome. You were the only person who could figure it out and put it all together. Jimmy, I am the Red Blue Blur." That was an Iconic quote. And then Clark super-speeded in front of Jimmy Olsen, and Jimmy was very awed about it. He was not suspicious about Clark at all; he just looked up in awe. This was my favorite scene.

I gave this a 1 just for killing off Iconic Jimmy Olsen.

[ywm]

it sucked.

[bennyjr123]

1 because there's no option for negative infinity. Way to spit on everything Aaron Ashmore has done for you for 3 years. Lois disappears at 7:30? And doesn't get another scene before the episode ends? Seriously? On what planet did you, Brian & Kelly, you galactic MORONS, think that ANYONE other than Chloe worshipers would like this piece of crap?!

Clark fans? Pissed.
Lois fans? Pissed.
Jimmy fans? SUPER PISSED.
Oliver fans? Pissed.
Tess fans? Pissed.
Hell, even Davis fans, cause well, he's dead too? Pissed.

Just rename the damn show Chloeville and be done with it. Erica was forced to miss one of the 13 episodes you paid her for so you could fit in Beast and Injustice to lead up to THIS? Chloe gets off scott-free and is lauded by the idiots around her as a "hero" when she's the one responsible for Jimmy and her psycho serial killer being dead? What the hell? God. Just fire yourselves. Give the show to Tom and fire yourselves.

Erica Durance, Tom Welling, Justin Hartley, Cassidy Freeman, writer Bryan Q. Miller, writer Caroline Dries (yes really). You can thank these six people for being the only reason I watch your piece of crap show. I hope you realize the majority of your audience HATED Lanaville and they HATE Chloeville. Stop shoving it down our throats. Remember the first ten episodes of this season? Give us that. Give us the 3 episodes (15, 17, 19) after Thanksgiving that were actually worth a damn. And stop with your retcon GARBAGE.

It'll be a long summer. FIX IT. You somehow think you're gonna get a Season 10? Not by pissing off Superman fans. GET BENT.

they didnt really praise chloe that much here. both the men she loved died.....i think this is more of a love lois hate chloe kinda thing. Just the vibe you're giving off and that's not fair.

[ZODisGOD]

I didn't vote because the 0 option wasn't available.

[Larel]

I've been waiting so long for this finale just like everyone else but it just didn't cut it.
I gave it a 1. why?

1. Clark vs Doomsday...was that really it? :rolleyes:
2. Non D-day Davis killed Jimmy? that just didn't seem right :(
3. Lois Lane disappears and Clark's all like "Chloe I can't find Lois..." :mad: oh hell no!!
4. WTF is up with the naked man outside of Tess room?? ZOD?? :cool:

yeah i give it a well deserve UNO :o




Exactly WTF was that? Oh BTW Chloe Lois is missing.:\ She didn't go shoe shopping Clark.

I have expected him to say next.......
"good luck finding her, I am dead now so count me out.":rolleyes:

[Tatiana]

I think I am going to wait to give my full review after people stop being so mad...it is a bit disturbing

[samanthalyn720]

they didnt really praise chloe that much here. both the men she loved died.....i think this is more of a love lois hate chloe kinda thing. Just the vibe you're giving off and that's not fair.


I agree... her two love interests were killed right in front of her, her cousin is no where to be found, and Clark walks out of her life. How is that getting of scot-free??

[Darth Pipes]

I voted 3/10 and that might be too generous. The conclusion of the Doomsday storyline was a massive disappointment. The DD storyline and Sam Witwer's performance was the strength of this season but the anti-climatic end killed it. The "big showdown" was ten seconds long...God forbid, they actually spend a little money on a decent fight. They've had better ones on Smallville, including the kick-ass one between Clark and Titan a few years back. Just as bad, Davis died an unworthy death. Way to piss on an excellent character. The death of Jimmy...oh wait, I'm sorry...Not Jimmy wasn't much better and the retcon with his little brother was ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that Jimmy said his father was an alcoholic he didn't speak too and never mentioned a little brother. And he mentioned this earlier in the season!

Awful, awful, ending!

[Kryppy]

I cannot believe how stupid that was...

What even happened with Clark and Doomsday? Is Doomsday dead? Or is he stuck underground? And what about Clark? Is Clark dead? Why did he dissolve at the end? Is he a ghost?

The bigger question is: What am I even waiting for? Will there be more of a Clark vs. Doomsday fight? Or is it over? I literally don’t even know what the cliffhanger is…. And if that was the entire Clark vs. Doomsday battle, it was pretty lame & short - for something we’ve been waiting a whole season for.

And pulling Jimmy's little brother out of nowhere? C’mon! Chloe is MARRIED to Jimmy but never met his brother (or even saw a picture of him)??? Where were Jimmy's parents and brother at the wedding?? If the writers are going to pull this kind of twist, they should at least have some minor hint leading up to it.

Why do I even still watch this show? Occasionally they still have great episodes (like Legion), but overall I could write better stories than these people making the money.

[CreamPuffer]

This was the worst final I have ever seen in my life. Anyone who thinks this was great is on crack. I can't believe how disgustingly abysmal this was, especially after watching 2 hours of one of the best television ever, the night before(LOST). This was way too rushed, the Doomsday smackdown was lame, Davis becoming a psycho was lame, Chloe realizing she really actually loves Jimmy was lame, Jimmy dying was lame, Davis dying was lame, the whole thing was lame.

All season we are promised Doomsday and we get like 2 minutes of it. Davis is finally saved and all of sudden he's a psychopath. Way to butcher a great character. If they were going to off him then they should have done it with dignity. The guy fell in love with Chloe and really cared for her, it's hard to believe he would want to hurt her after everything. Not too mention, the guy tried killing himself to stop the beast from killing innocent people and 15 minutes before turning psycho was willing to be killed by Oliver and Co. Why the hell would he all of sudden kill Jimmy and turn on Chloe after he is finally saved? Either save him or kill him.
Jimmy is another thing, the guy finally gets better and is of some use, finally. What do they do? They kill him. Are you serious?
I have so many thoughts writing through my head as far as why this was so horrible. But I'm so pissed that I can't even convey it. What a let down.

[brihvp03]

Well here i go...... To me i thought the show was good. i gave it a 9.
i was pissed about the doomsday fight. More like playing football with a carr and clark tackling him.
Jimmy did not die his older brother died named henry??? Ok i can live with that. Jimmy was younger in the books and adding in his little brother declaring him the true jimmy olsen was fine.
Lois find the ring...... gone.... where did she go??? Maybe the ring was programed to go 1,000 yrs in the future to learn who the rbb is. Maybe this is where she learns to call the rrb superman. we will see.
Zod is back... that is cool. well im assuming davis will be zod.
where is everyone getting clarks a ghost from??????? I did not think that at all. I just assumed he superspeeded off. They have done that b4 just no blur.
I do agree taht this should of been a 2hr show. used a half hour of clark dd fight then the other last half explaing more.
I like this episode. it was not the best. but i liked it.

[LuckyLois]

It didn't feel like a finally to me. There were some parts that I really liked, like the Clois scene and the scene where Jimmy sees Clark as the RBB. The acting was really good especially Tom and AA. I really thought we would see Lois interact with a Clark from the future and that would be the "forgiven moment" we were waiting for.

I don't know what is up with Clark disappearing? Maybe some avid mythos fan can
explain. The JL was anti-climatic too. They really didn't even show their powers. It makes me wish that SV was on a better network, like Fox, where they would have the budget for more special effects.

Please Warner Brothers, give SV a decent budget, because the way all the Superhero movies are doing, (GREAT), it is in your best interest to keep SV a great show. It keeps us wanting more! After all, The Dark Knight made a killing, this show has been on for 8 years and can make more in residuals soon, just stop being so cheap!

[RedKRules]

I didn't vote because the 0 option wasn't available.

I took the liberty to vote 0 for them anyway ...

[brettlee93]

Cmon people the writers ripped off without a trace. When the person goes missing they "disappear".

[Darth Pipes]

I was really disappointed with how this storyline concluded. The Doomsday storyline and Sam Witwer's performance were easily the best things about Season 8. Witwer did a great job of creating a sympathic character who could not control the beast within him. This should have led to a great finale worthy of the character.

Instead, the "epic showdown" between Clark and Doomsday turned out to be a complete bust. Could they have made any effort on that fight? There have been better fights on Smallville over the years, the one between Clark and Titan, portrayed by Kane of the WWE, is a great example. Instead, we get a lame, two-minute confrontation that ends as soon as it gets going. Not much for what Tess said would be a defining moment for Clark. In usual form for this show, everything gets wrapped up within the space of a single episode.

To add insult to injury, we see Davis (who has been a likeable character) murders Jimmy and then get killed in a totally lame way. What a complete waste of a such a good character and TPTB laid an absolute stinker with how this storyline resolved itself. Massive disappointment.

[BadToad]

That was seriously awful! Just awful.

Every single part of this episode was epic fail. Nothing about the episode was cohesive. Nothing even made sense.

Chloe is a saint? Yeah, got it show, thanks.

Clark is blaming himself...needlessly. I had no clue where he was coming from.

Why were Dinah and Bart even in this episode?

So, Oliver isn't a murderer anymore, and can be trusted? And Dinah and Bart prefer his methods over Clarks? And he shoots Clark with kryptonite arrows? Well, long live the JLA. I know I feel more secure knowing these idiots are protecting us.

Lois/Tess fight? Lame.

Lois is in the episode for about 3 minutes, then disappears.

Jimmy is not really Jimmy. Meet his never-before-mentioned younger brother. Is his name Jimmy too? Lame.

So, Davis was really a murdering psycho. Yeah, I thought so.

Why didn't this finale focus on Clark?

And the most epic fail of all...THAT was the Clark/Doomsday fight? Really? Clark gets punched a few times, then flies/jumps Doomsday to some non-descript explosion. This was the big bad that nothing in the world could stop from killing Clark?

And after all this, Clark decides he shouldn't be human anymore? Huh?

Awful on every single level. Terrible. A 1, and thats only because I liked Lois' white jacket and Clark's coat at the end.

[Alicia Chipy]

So where's the epic battle between Clark and Doomsday we were promised ? I swear the catfightt between Lois and Tess was more violent (and totally unnecessary).
What about the sweet Clois moments that were going to send me into sqees of exstasy.Gosh, I must have blinked and missed them ! And the piece de resistance... they kill Jimmy who isn't the "real" Jimmy.
And finally, four months to stew over a finale that left a bad taste in my mouth.

[VicNew]

If they do a Season 9, I pray they get it right! And CreamPuffer, I'm wit you! LOST was tha bomb last nite!!!!

[colibri]

I think I am going to wait to give my full review after people stop being so mad...it is a bit disturbing

People are angry for a reason. The episode was disturbing. This was seriously bad. It feels like you just wasted your time and now they will retcon the entire series and god knows what they can do if they wrote this junk.

[susangail]

I was SO not looking forward to Season 9 until this episode. Now, I can't wait!!!!

[Mrs. Superman]

I cannot believe how stupid that was...

What even happened with Clark and Doomsday? Is Doomsday dead? Or is he stuck underground? And what about Clark? Is Clark dead? Why did he dissolve at the end? Is he a ghost?

The bigger question is: What am I even waiting for? Will there be more of a Clark vs. Doomsday fight? Or is it over? I literally don’t even know what the cliffhanger is…. And if that was the entire Clark vs. Doomsday battle, it was pretty lame & short - for something we’ve been waiting a whole season for.

And pulling Jimmy's little brother out of nowhere? C’mon! Chloe is MARRIED to Jimmy but never met his brother (or even saw a picture of him)??? Where were Jimmy's parents and brother at the wedding?? If the writers are going to pull this kind of twist, they should at least have some minor hint leading up to it.

Why do I even still watch this show? Occasionally they still have great episodes (like Legion), but overall I could write better stories than these people making the money.
So much word!

One more thing, as an audience member I want to see the storylines played out onscreen. Not through retcons of the past. :rolleyes:

[gilliang]

This episode is made of so much fail, it's hard to know where to begin.

I'll say this though, the absolute worst thing about the episode? Clearing Chloe of all her wrongdoings and turning her into some sort of a saint. She doesn't deserve it. Not even for a second. It's a horrible, horrible message they're sending out. It disgusts and sickens me to the core.

[Mrs. Superman]

People are angry for a reason. The episode was disturbing. This was seriously bad. It feels like you just wasted your time and now they will retcon the entire series and god knows what they can do if they wrote this junk.
Exactly!!! We see something play out onscreen only to be told a few episodes later (or a few seasons later in some cases) that what we CLEARLY saw and heard has been changed into something it was not. JBO was refferred to as such...never once was he called Henry when given his whole name. I dont think I'm gonna get over this one.

[Theshadow129x]

it was one of the best because it pushed the actual story forward unlike some finales like Arctic and phantom.

[Tigergal05]

Not sure if you guys have seen this..
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/smallville-excl.html

[outsyder]

Two words people:

Lazy Writing...

[Tatiana]

People are angry for a reason. The episode was disturbing. This was seriously bad. It feels like you just wasted your time and now they will retcon the entire series and god knows what they can do if they wrote this junk.


I respect your opinion, I don't think the whole episode was disturbing, the whole Jimmy thing was confusing and sad, but I still like the character they had in Smallville even if he wasn't the Jimmy from the mythos. The were a lot of things I did like though, I don't feel I've wasted my time, I am sorry you do. I guess it is hard to make everyone happy.

[monel49]

Great episode. It deserves a clear 10. I know it won't make everyone who hated it happy, but there were reasons for why things happened the way they did.

First, we shouldn't have expected the fight between Clark and DD to be epic. They 'advertised' it that way, but the writers had nothing to do with the advertising. It can't be an epic battle yet--that's for the future when the two characters actually kill each other.

Second, Doomsday is buried underground now--why? Because that's where they find him and actually unearth him years in the future--yeah, just before the real epic battle.

Third, I didn't see it coming, but Jimmy's death makes a lot of sense. The real Jimmy Olsen is years younger, no reason why little brother can't also have Jimmy as a middle name.

Fourth, Clark's angst is more than just a "Gee what a failure I am, it's all my fault" kind of thinking. He's really trying to find out who he is and his optimistic take on humanity just took a big tumble with Davis, the human Davis, being the real serial killer. The beast was not the alien monster--it was Davis himself.

I agree they packed more into this ep then they should have, but the recent episodes have demanded a lot from the audience--some thinking and identifying with the characters. All shows, not just Smallville, seem to be using the cut and jump method of storytelling where they let viewers fill in the unfilmed blanks. It's a different way of telling a tale, but a legitimate one.

For those who are really angry--what would you have liked to happen? Rewrite the ep and tell us how it should have been better, but be realistic and keep it within the framework of this season.

For me, it was a wonderful season and a great finale. Can't wait for Season 9. Way to go Smallville!

[Ella]

That was seriously awful! Just awful.

Every single part of this episode was epic fail. Nothing about the episode was cohesive. Nothing even made sense.

Chloe is a saint? Yeah, got it show, thanks.

Clark is blaming himself...needlessly. I had no clue where he was coming from.

Why were Dinah and Bart even in this episode?

So, Oliver isn't a murderer anymore, and can be trusted? And Dinah and Bart prefer his methods over Clarks? And he shoots Clark with kryptonite arrows? Well, long live the JLA. I know I feel more secure knowing these idiots are protecting us.

Lois is in the episode for about 3 minutes, then disappears.

Jimmy is not really Jimmy. Meet his never-before-mentioned younger brother. Is his name Jimmy too? Lame.

So, Davis was really a murdering psycho. Yeah, I thought so.

Why didn't this finale focus on Clark?

And the most epic fail of all...THAT was the Clark/Doomsday fight? Really? Clark gets punched a few times, then flies/jumps Doomsday to some non-descript explosion. This was the big bad that nothing in the world could stop from killing Clark?

And after all this, Clark decides he shouldn't be human anymore? Huh?

Awful on every single level. Terrible. A 1, and thats only because I liked Lois' white jacket and Clark's coat at the end.

Pretty much. Yeah.

[SVilleGal03]

The worst season finale that Smallville has had. They just tried to cram too much in, and consequently the episode lacked focus and pacing. Jimmy dies, and then suddenly we skip ahead a few days to his funeral and brush aside all of the other important stuff that was going on. What exactly happened to Doomsday again? Then suddenly right after the funeral Chloe tells Clark that Dinah, Bart, and Oliver have disappeared and it was up to her and Clark to bring them home. When did they disappear Chloe? You just saw them at the funeral.

And please stop with the phone conversations between RBB and Lois? These are quintessential Lois/Clark moments? Gimme a break. If you can't give us the real thing, then don't bother.

Exactly the reason this needed to be at LEAST a 90-minute or 2-hour episode. We haven't had one since Season 4's "Commencement," and it still had an exciting (but most importantly, a coherent) storyline. "Doomsday" tried to put a lot into 42 minutes, but for the most part did not succeed.

[LuckyLois]

The first half of the season was sooooo good. The second half seems as if it was done by totally different people. I really don't understand.

[CreamPuffer]

If they do a Season 9, I pray they get it right! And CreamPuffer, I'm wit you! LOST was tha bomb last nite!!!!

That's right. It was the bomb, a hydrogen bomb that either killed them all or saved them all. :eek: How insane was that? The writers on that show are insanely talented, unlike SV. Man, I hope they bring in some writers with actual talent. I can't believe the actors go along with garbage like that. I would have said something like, "are you completely off your rocker? this is the dumbest thing ever....change it now or I refuse to participate"
:rotfl:

[chlo-el]

Yep! It was the worst season finale ever!

[SVilleGal03]

That was seriously awful! Just awful.

Every single part of this episode was epic fail. Nothing about the episode was cohesive. Nothing even made sense.

Chloe is a saint? Yeah, got it show, thanks.

Clark is blaming himself...needlessly. I had no clue where he was coming from.

Why were Dinah and Bart even in this episode?

So, Oliver isn't a murderer anymore, and can be trusted? And Dinah and Bart prefer his methods over Clarks? And he shoots Clark with kryptonite arrows? Well, long live the JLA. I know I feel more secure knowing these idiots are protecting us.

Lois/Tess fight? Lame.

Lois is in the episode for about 3 minutes, then disappears.

Jimmy is not really Jimmy. Meet his never-before-mentioned younger brother. Is his name Jimmy too? Lame.

So, Davis was really a murdering psycho. Yeah, I thought so.

Why didn't this finale focus on Clark?

And the most epic fail of all...THAT was the Clark/Doomsday fight? Really? Clark gets punched a few times, then flies/jumps Doomsday to some non-descript explosion. This was the big bad that nothing in the world could stop from killing Clark?

And after all this, Clark decides he shouldn't be human anymore? Huh?

Awful on every single level. Terrible. A 1, and thats only because I liked Lois' white jacket and Clark's coat at the end.

Wow. That actually sums it up for me as well. I, personally, would be a little more generous and give it maybe a...3.5.

Although I did like the little twist with the younger Olsen at the end. He reminded me of a young Marc McClure with the suit, bowtie, and freckles.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I think, now that I have thought about Doomsday more and more, I have come to enjoy it way more than the first time tonight.

[colibri]

I respect your opinion, I don't think the whole episode was disturbing, the whole Jimmy thing was confusing and sad, but I still like the character they had in Smallville even if he wasn't the Jimmy from the mythos. The were a lot of things I did like though, I don't feel I've wasted my time, I am sorry you do. I guess it is hard to make everyone happy.

This isn't just about Jimmy. He's only a small portion of my problem with this episode. The episode itself was badly written. The fight was lame beyond belief. The episode was slow and anti-climactic. They have made the chances of a complete retcon a very big possibility. They completely did an about face with Davis, they make him seem like everything is out of his control but then his human side ends up being as vile as Doomsday. Clark completely turns his back on everything his parents taught him. Chloe is a felon with all the things she did against the law but now she's a saint. This is nuts. I'm not angry at you but trying to explain why people are upset and that it goes beyond far beyond Jimmy.

BTW, I realize there's a reason for some of these things but it was written poorly.

[SnowBird]

I absolutely loved this episode. Tom Welling did an amazing job portraying Clark. He knew what he had to do and was willing to give his life to save humanity from Doomsday. Clark had taken the world on his shoulders and then all the responsibility for Jimmy's death. First Jonathan, and then Lionel, and now Jimmy has died helping Clark. His humanity side is suffering and I'm afraid he is running from his pain and Kal-El will take over.

The RBB and Lois scene was very touching and you could see on Clark's face that he loved Lois and was hurting knowing he could be leaving her for good the next day by dying. Now, there is a question of, did Clark die and is he buried in the ground with Doomsday? Was that Clark's ghost at the end of the episode, or maybe as Kal-El, he will be searching for Lois since she disappeared after she touched the Legion ring.

The Clark and Doomsday battle was short but I can understand that the epic final battle is between Superman and Doomsday. I liked that Clark was the one who buried Doomsday in the ground.

Jimmy Olsen's death was indeed sad and I will miss him a lot. It was good that they could explain that his little brother is really the future Jimmy Olsen we know as Clark's friend after he becomes Superman.

We saw the Zod sign with a man in the center so we know he will be a force to reckon with next season. What relationship will Tess have with Zod.? Clark will be on a dark path. Lois is lost. The Justice League has gone their own way for now. Chloe has lost Jimmy, Lois and Clark and so I feel for her pain and wonder what is in store for her. This cliffhanger more than met my expectations and I give it a 10.

[jwein84]

it was actually one of the best finale's and there have been alot of bad ones on Smallville's behalf. this was actually one with alot of drama. They did a great job.

[Mod Edit] The entire season was leading up to a Clark-Doomsday throwdown and the fight lasts all of a minute! Not to mention, Doomsday was crushing Clark until Clark decides to super jump him miles away into an underground facility where we don't even see what happens.

Lois is stuck in time for no apparent reason by a time travel ring that was brought to Clark for some unexplained reason that had no relevance to the show. Jimmy Olson isn't really Jimmy Olson, instead its his younger brother who is also named Jimmy Olson who was first introduced at his funeral! Besides that, the older Jimmy dies the same day he finds out who Clark really is. Tess is obsessed over some orb that has no significance whatsoever except to allow for Zod to come to Earth but there is no explanation for why? What the hell was the orb and why did the fight b/w Clark and Doomsday allow for it to release Zod!? It makes absolutely no sense!

This episode was a complete failure and the writers and producers should be ashamed of themselves. I am furious that I watched the entire season just to see one of the worst episodes (yes episodes, not even season finales) that I have ever seen of any show in my entire life. Epic epic fail!

[Kal26]

I thought this was the weakest finale to the weakest season. I miss Gough and Millar, and hope ps3 turn things around in season nine, if they haven't gotten the show canceled already. I'm really to shocked, and angry to state my mind right now. All I can say is, damn, that was weak.

[Marfeic2011]

0 - if i could - what hero would abandon his best friend in the moment she needed him most - superman? Bullcrap - this clark kent is not nor could he ever be superman - i don't know what it is he cares about - but if he can't stand beside chloe now - if after a decade of friendship he can't be there for her now - then WTH does any of the rest of it matter? What was the point of developing this epic friendship only to flush it down the toilette along with the little respect I had left for Clark...

for the first time in a long time I am so upset that as a result I almost don't care at all... and THAT is not a good sign....

[NinaDavis]

WTF!!
That bullsh*t was THE EPIC Doomday fight?

I vote 1 but this EPIC FAIL deserves -10

[Jigga]

I see the tide is changing, I usually see a bunch of 10s on here and think WTH. I gave it a 3 only because it was everything I expected from this finale, character assassinations left and right.

[suzieQ]

So what did I learn from all of this? Don't believe a word from Cassidy F.!

Honestly, to totally disregard Aaron Ashmore playing the "Iconic" Jimmy Olsen all this time and then in this finale say ........sike! That is so sad........I feel bad for him....does that mean he can never go to Comic Con as JO?

To buildup the "epic showdown" between Clark and Doomy and to show it all in a clip a week or so before the finale........what a complete and utter letdown!

Tess and Lois fight..........um.....rolling over a desk......wow.....the camera guys must have enjoyed it. Lana's fight with Tess had a least some skill and choreography!

Why were Impulse and BC there?

Clark really appreciated Rokk traveling a thousand years in time just to have Clark put the ring in his DP desk! Ranks right up there with the tool box!

Where was Doomy's funeral?

Clark.....there are no words......at least Lana can not be blamed for holding him back ......he is holding himself back from being a Hero. At least Lana supported him...reminded him of his faith in himself........Lana told him to be a Hero on his own schedule. Clark gave up........it was a bad way to leave this finale.


Smallville you FAIL.........if you can wipe away Jimmy Olsen, no telling what you will do next for the sake of the precious "mythos" which now is nothing but a Grimms fairytale.

Good Luck next year......you will need it.

I give this episode a "0"!

[SVFancross]

The toll:
Jimmy - Dead. Expected that. But there's a twist, he's the mytho's Jimmy's older brother and his first name is really Henry
Davis - Dead. Exoect that.
Tess - Lives on to be a disciple of Zod. I totally missed that one, I thought Lois was going to kill her.
Ollie - Lived. Expected that.
Bart/Dinah - Lived! I expected at least one to die - I'm glad I missed that one too.
Lois - cliffhanger in a a different "timeline". Expected that.
Chloe - Lived. Totally emotionally destroyed by the death of Jimmy, Davis being a psychopath, and Clark leaving. A variant on what I expected but not far off.
Clark - You know, I THINK he's alive, but why did they make it so "fuzzy" on how he got out of the plant. Was that cut for budget? I think the dissappearing was the "metaphorical death" of Clark--- I don't think he's a ghost.

Loved:
- Jimmy the HERO! I LOVED that he got to know, that he was proved right, that he saw his entire relationship with Chloe in a whole new light. That he was just as big of a believer in Clark Kent as his ex-wife and thus he totally understood her sacrifice.
-Chimmy. There. I said it. If THAT was the Chimmy of the last three years, I would have loved the relationship. Not the insecure Jimmy/torn Chloe relationship we got. I absolutely LOVED his wedding gift. I'm thrilled with the reconcilliation. For the first time I could see these two together for life. I can't believe that they made me love Chimmy. Of course in typical Smallville fashion, there was 15 seconds of happiness and then the pole thru the torso of the hero. Figures.

Dissappointing

- Tess's story. She really was a sideshow but got a setup for next year. I foresee Zod/Tess shenanigans and SW chewing up scenery in the mansion with an arrogant swagger. Note to producers: Zod dislikes wearing shirts -- don't forget that one. It's important.

- Lois' story. I'm glad they showed Chlo-Lo again. I hate that they turn that on an off like a faucet. One episode Chloe is dying for Lois and Lois is dragging her near corpse through the water, the next we barely see them interact for weeks at a time. Chlo-Lo is goodness. I think they've killed off the RBB-story with the Clark Kent is dead thing but I don't know. We may be looking at an actual time-jump for the entire show and Lois conveniently shows up when Clark comes back after training and the Watchtower is reconvened and fully functioning. IDK. I do know that having Jimmy not be Jimmy says she's not fixing the timeline.

So they go with the whole "sweet guy" on the car who turns psychopath when he finds out Chloe doesn't love him. Meh.
sided with Ollie! I missed that too. Kindof lame that none of the humans died.

Davis' story - One minute he's telling a sweet story about how they are really going to be able to live in hiding, they have him say that the Justice League SHOULD throw him in the pit and then after Chloe "saves" him he turns psychopath because she doesn't really love him. Meh.

Didn't like:
- Clark took all the blame. Perhaps Chloe's comment that she knows who is responsible for Jimmy's death was really suppose to imply that the person responsible was her. But they left it too subtle if that is where they are going. I'm a big Chloe fan and I think they skipped an important line there. She was right to say "you can't lose your humanity" but I think she should have taken some of the guilt on (perhaps Clark would have said --- it's my fault that you were invovled in the first place --- which would be WRONG but in character).
- Clark leaving everyone behind. Exactly where are you going dude? Training? Okay then. But you need your humanity. He was giving the JOR-EL speech almost word for word. Some may be thrilled that he said Ollie was right but I don't see it that way. If Ollie is right meand Clark gives up his humanity then this is the wrong answer -- still. I don't accept that Clark's humanity is a weakness.

Final note: so those who said a mythos person wouldn't be killed were right because he wasn't really part of the mythos but they still got the "shock" value of killing Jimmy. I think it's getting off on a technicality and a bit lame.

[gilliang]

Saint Chloe ruined this damn episode. Ruined it.

Why do people never suffer consequences? She's Lana 2.0.

UGH.

[Tatiana]

This isn't just about Jimmy. He's only a small portion of my problem with this episode. The episode itself was badly written. The fight was lame beyond belief. The episode was slow and anti-climactic. They have made the chances of a complete retcon a very big possibility. They completely did an about face with Davis, they make him seem like everything is out of his control but then his human side ends up being as vile as Doomsday. Clark completely turns his back on everything his parents taught him. Chloe is a felon with all the things she did against the law but now she's a saint. This is nuts. I'm not angry at you but trying to explain why people are upset and that it goes beyond far beyond Jimmy.

BTW, I realize there's a reason for some of these things but it was written poorly.


Oh believe me I understand people are mad at more things than just Jimmy dying. I actually agree with Aaron that it was sad but he was heroic in the end, so his character got well redeemed. I just got a little overwhelmed seeing all the anger and that's why I couldn't really put my thoughts together...I didn't expect to see all the anger, that's all but hey we all take it differently. I have to say I am still shocked by the episode, confused by a lot of things, so I gotta watch it again. I didn't hate it though as it seems most people did, this is definitely going to be a long summer

[suzieQ]

I will say there is one thing and one thing only that I liked about this episode.........

the Clark and Jimmy scene when the secret was revealed! Yep...that's it!

Then the show killed it.............

[dreammaster]

I really enjoyed tonight finale can't wait for next season give it 9 out of 10

[Karafan1]

Not sure if you guys have seen this..
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/smallville-excl.html

So much for my "Clark using the Legion ring to change a few things" therory:\

[sts1285]

Thought it was the lamest finale in Smallville's history. Clark didn't even throw a punch at Doomsday. I liked the setup for Doomsday in the future, but they could have at least had a better fight scene. An okay cliffhanger, but still didn't explain anything.

[gbrewer83]

Worst Smallville finale ever. I waited so long for this episode and was just flabbergasted at how awful it was. I mean there are basically now number variation to rate how bad this episode was.

1. Clark/DD fight=Lame.
2. Not enough Lois and what's with her disappearance.
3. Why exactly was this called Doomsday, as there was no doom, earth shattering danger, or the fact that Doomsday wasn't even that important to the storyline.
4. Rushed episode, and at times made no sense.
5. Jimmy/Herny.....Seriously.
6. Say hello to the new Lex (Oliver) and the new Lana (Chloe).
7. What's up with Clark, dead, ghost, or the Eradicator.
8. How did Zod's corporal body end up in the orb and how did his essence escape from the S crystal.
9. Davis really.
10. That's what they call a season finale.
:mad:

[fa8362]

I'm having a hard time imagining how it could have been worse.

[WildGoatTamer]

I thought it was good. However they should have split the fianale into 2 episodes. We barely got any Rokk or JLA because of time constraints. I don't care that much about the Doomsday fight after all Doomsday kills Superman not RBB. I thought the finale had some wonderful acting.

I felt that Clark reached a logical conclusion after seeing that Davis was a monster that being human could also be a weakness. My only problem was that it was the raging beast inside of Davis that made him crazy because Davis seemed to. So there was a bit of WTF? going on in that scene. I thought Chloe was great you could totally tell she was feeling horrible about Jimmy and Davis and she just wanted someone to lean on something her and Clark could have used. I loved the fact that she tried to pull through it all by creating the Watch Tower. I can't wait to see how she and Clark team up next season. :D

The thing I hated about this episode was that I felt that the JLA were useless. Ollie could have easily done what they did by himself and Rokk was there for like one scene! I don't want to just see characters I want to see them do something!

Over all it was cramped but the scenes that counted were beyond amazing.

[hyped1]

I may get "edited" for this comment but how can anyone really say it's a 10? Seriously? Is it just to offset the fact so many people are giving it 1's (twice as many as of last count) or do you really believe this is on par or better than finales like commencement, or the like where a) you felt impact of what happened (and not just shocked or let down) or b) you were excited about the direction or possibilities to come.

Season finales are supposed to leave you wanting more, excited, concerned for our heroes, or at least anticipating what's to come next, this episode had let downs and concern but it was more about how the heck the finale ended up so jumbled and weak!

No disrespect to anyone, but if you look at the poll right now, the fact that it jumps from perfect to failure with a few numbers in the middle proves people are truly disappointed. those whom voted 10 are voting with their hopes and love for the show, not on what they just saw, unless they have never ever seen an actual episode or finale of the show done right.

[smallville2013]

will smeone explain to me how everyone thinks clark is a ghost

[sts1285]

will smeone explain to me how everyone thinks clark is a ghost
I guess because of the dramatic fade at the end of the episode.

[patrese]

I agree that the finale should have been split into two episodes. But the producers need to understand that they cannot through the smallville mythos out the window to allow for the DC mythos. They have to continue the wonderful character that is lois without trying to turn her into something different and the relationship she has had with Clark during their time together over the seasons. Because what it really boils down to is this is the greatest LOVE story of all time and everything else is secondary. Everything else is background. If they concentrate on that, everything will fall into place.

[Rachel B]

Epic. Fail.
I don't think that the Finale delivered what was a season's worth of emotions. It was anti-climatic and dull. What a waste. I expected so much more, maybe that's my fault. Good luck with next season, I'm living in fandom for the duration.

[Faby]

I voted ONE just because I couldn't go below. I honestly give it a negative infinity.....define this episode in one word: SUCKS!

[cca_25]

9 , the Doomsday/Clark fight should have been longer but the episode was well compressed for the limited time it had.

[ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva]

0.

I am done with the show. This was worse than Arctic.

YEAH, a minute fight is SOOOO EPIC...............................NOT.

I am so done with the show.

I was so mad that I threw all of my DVDS into the garbage can....

This finale was so bad...I can't express the hurt, anger....sadness...this was bad.

[Mod Edit]

[Tatiana]

I actually was left wondering what's gonna happen to my heroes as you put it, so I guess that's why I gave it a 9, not a complete 10 because I wanted to see more of the fight between Clark and DD, but I did like Clark's attitude, even if I don't agree with him in the end, I think it will lead to interesting plots...some intense and different acting from Tom, I loved seeing JLA again especially Bart. I loved Jimmy and I am sad he is gone, but he was heroic, I liked the RBB and Lois scene, not exactly what I expected but it was a set up for season 9 and I am wondering what happened to her, to Tess too...she was cool and creepy at thesame time. Oliver made me sad, and Chloe made me sad...I am curious to see what will happen to all of them so I guess hey that's why I gave it a 9

[SupermanRox]

I liked the episode because I love SV but I have to agree that it was very anticlimatic. It wasn't nearly as exciting as I'd thought it would be. I'm disappointed.

[gilliang]

Where's the 0 option or the - options? Seriously, I need to give this episode a -500, it doesn't deserve a 1, I felt wrong giving it that much even.

[Chromey]

I LOVE Smallville season finales.. but this time it was just meh! WTH were they thinking? THey hype up a huge fight with Doomsday and Clark that lasted all but 6 punches and 1-2 minutes.

Clark turns his back on humainty like in the kingdom Come story arc..

JIMMY DIED!! I agree he was too old to be Jimmy since Jimmy is SUPPOSED to be much younger than Clark and Lois so after showing his little brother maybe I can let that one go.

Where is LOIS!!! Show us a clip or something geesh!

ZOD is back and more naked then ever! Now I have reason to fear when his says "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD" (No way dude put some pants on!)

Whats the deal with Kandor anyway why choose now to invade earth and not WHEN doomsday is at full strength to pummel Clark?? There is a serious plot whole in here.. and where is KARA she was looking for Kandor!

And the JLA talked a whole lot but said nothing all show I am so pist right nao!

[jpfort1957]

Clark will return..............but so will Doomsday, to fight another day.

[Kschreck]

I agree with you. Both the budget and the writing have sunk to a new low. Oh and the Doomsday fight was like 30 seconds long. 1-2 minutes would have been EPIC in the Smallville of today.

[cail32]

it was a good episode, but no way near a finale quality, they promised a big throw down between clark and DD, that was DD punching him a couple times and then clark taking him to the plant. oh wow, lois and clark in the beginning was nice and jimmy being somewhat of a hero was nice, and the JL was a letdown too, i wanted to see impulse and canary use their powers a little more, this episode just came up short with prety much everything

[brihvp03]

0.

I am done with the show. This was worse than Arctic.

YEAH, a minute fight is SOOOO EPIC...............................NOT.

I am so done with the show.

I was so mad that I threw all of my DVDS into the garbage can....

This finale was so bad...I can't express the hurt, anger....sadness...this was bad.

[mod edit]

No you did not throw ur dvds away liar!!!!

[ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva]

No you did not throw ur dvds away liar!!!!
I actually did. I am beyond infuriated how pathetic the episode turned out.

[Ella]

Ewwww on the title....what an image for my poor mind!

[Mar-El]

I recall people rationalizing all season long how the budget woes and using that same street in Metropolis time and time again were the result of all the money they were saving up for the finale fight.

Oh well, I don't see it getting any better from here budget-wise so we might as well brace ourselves.

[Kschreck]

I recall people rationalizing all season long how the budget woes and using that same street in Metropolis time and time again were the result of all the money they were saving up for the finale fight.

Oh well, I don't see it getting any better from here budget-wise so we might as well brace ourselves.


Which is why they should have focused on ending the show by the end of season 8. The past seasons were so much better. Remember the good old days almost makes season 8 and so fourth not even watchable. They killed Smallville! :(

[Jigga]

I recall people rationalizing all season long how the budget woes and using that same street in Metropolis time and time again were the result of all the money they were saving up for the finale fight.

Oh well, I don't see it getting any better from here budget-wise so we might as well brace ourselves.

We are already on the ride.

[Shahryar]

agreed. Even if Doomsday comes back, The season finale should have had a much better fight. This is what the season was building towards. This is what the episode was called! Totally disappointed. Right when it was going to start I was like, "oh man.. here we go.." Over way too fast

[NoSupeForYou]

First off, I think Clark hit the black k on the way down, but since he already destroyed Kal way back when he simply split his human self from what was left of his Kryptonian self.

Second, if I could I would rate this piece or horrible trash lower than the 1 I gave it.
I've been saying it for weeks; Chloe is the new Lana. She got Jimmy killed and sent Clark on the mother of all guilt trips and is declared a hero for it? Will she be out seeking a power suit next season?

The whole not-the-Jimmy retcon was just stupid.

JLA was useless and I can't figure out for the life of me why Doomsday would leave them and Davis alive to go and frighten some little girl.

Sending off Lois was lame and lazy. You would think that at some point the characters would learn that if you have something dangerous or important you don't hide it in your desk. If you have a ring programmed to send someone into the future you don't put it into your top desk drawer. Hey, Clark! Remember what happened when Chloe put the key into her desk?

The fight wasn't even a fight and Doomsday was found in a spaceship underground, not simply put a few hundred feet under it.

It seems like everything from the past has been retconned this season, including Shelby's sex, and the orb is no exception. Just how did Zod get stored away in that thing? Tess is an idiot. She went from being used by Lex to being used by Zod.

I'm really mad that this is the crap that I have to sit and think about over the summer. I have no hope for a good season 9 as it stands.

[karmick]

Bring Lex Back!

& Smart storytelling!

Becasue it,s about smart stories, not just putting pretty people on the screen to look at for 42 minutes, yeah?

GG, I miss seasons 2-6. Like Crazy!!!

[Mar-El]

Which is why they should have focused on ending the show by the end of season 8. The past seasons were so much better. Remember the good old days almost makes season 8 and so fourth not even watchable. They killed Smallville! :(

I completely agree. I love Smallville and I want to see a season 9, but given the choice between a great, iconic ending in season 8 or more seasons of mediocrity, I would have Smallville end on a high note.

[brettlee93]

I actually did. I am beyond infuriated how pathetic the episode turned out.

[MOD EDIT] I am a huge fan and have never given an episode a 1 like i did 2nite but i would never throw away my dvds becasue of one bad episode.

[topping82]

I gave it a one, and that was generous. Worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Just horrid. Not that I wasn't expecting it. With Smallville, you expect the worst and feel happy when it goes a little bit above that. Unfortunately, I imagined the worst, and then they did worse than that.

I just don't understand these writers, and I've been defending them. First they try and make Clana epic. That should have been the first clue. And then CHIMMY? WHAT???????? They shouldn't have killed Jimmy and they shouldn't have killed Davis. Watching SV makes me sick to my stomach.

Tom Welling couldn't have spoken truer words: "Clark Kent is Dead."

Yeah well, so is Smallville and so is Superman. They actually make the point that Clark was wrong, and that "some" people are not worth saving. HUH??????

I agree with Chloe, all the heroes have disappeared. They have become villains and the writers show how these heroes' twisted view points are correct. Well, I don't think so.

Why should one feel hopeless after watching a tv show about Superman? Clark should have been right and he should have found a way to save Davis, even if that meant Davis would still have to die.

They don't even have anyone be "sad" about Davis. Just despicable. And now Chloe will forever be metaphorically with Jimmy? I'm going to cry. And they are tears of rage.

I don't see why they couldn't have kept Jimmy around working off Lois and Clark, and then introduced his younger brother or something.

And Davis should have been redeemed. It was leading up to it all season, and through half the episode.

The episode was poorly written to be honest. And everyone was completely out of character. And I thought Joss Whedon was the king of character assassination. BUT NO. Souders and Peterson take the cake.

They didn't even give Davis a dignified death. He just "died" in a lightswitch move.

I'm just so angry, I don't think next season I will be back. Maybe I'll watch the Zod scenes on youtube. Bones it is. Man, I wish I had taped that instead.

First Tony on 24, Chameron marriage, Moonlight cancellation, Eli Stone and Pushing Daisies cancellation, and now the death of Davis, Chlavis and Beauty and the Beast. I really am starting to look at the tv show Angel lovingly.

Honestly, since when did you have "Beauty" say to the Beast at the end that she "thought" she loved him? I'm actually laughing now.

Apparently on Smallville there is no such thing as redemption. You don't have free will. You are what you are. And as Ben says on Lost, destiny is a b***h.

I say next season, I hope Zod kills everybody.

[Timester]

I LOVE Smallville season finales.. but this time it was just meh! WTH were they thinking? THey hype up a huge fight with Doomsday and Clark that lasted all but 6 punches and 1-2 minutes.

Clark turns his back on humainty like in the kingdom Come story arc..

JIMMY DIED!! I agree he was too old to be Jimmy since Jimmy is SUPPOSED to be much younger than Clark and Lois so after showing his little brother maybe I can let that one go.

Where is LOIS!!! Show us a clip or something geesh!

ZOD is back and more naked then ever! Now I have reason to fear when his says "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD" (No way dude put some pants on!)

Whats the deal with Kandor anyway why choose now to invade earth and not WHEN doomsday is at full strength to pummel Clark?? There is a serious plot whole in here.. and where is KARA she was looking for Kandor!

And the JLA talked a whole lot but said nothing all show I am so pist right nao!

Question, why do you want the cliffhangers resolved in the finale?

Are people forgetting what cliffhangers are?

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Which is why they should have focused on ending the show by the end of season 8. The past seasons were so much better. Remember the good old days almost makes season 8 and so fourth not even watchable. They killed Smallville! :(

Now people are getting why I'm against season 10...

[gbsrnumber5]

I would just like to say that the title of this thread is a perfect description for the ep.

Great in parts (snickers) but it still was a bit of a turd. Where was the throw down???

[Chromey]

Question, why do you want the cliffhangers resolved in the finale?

Are people forgetting what cliffhangers are?

No I want cliffhangers that keep me wanting to see more.. this episode was soo all over the place that I have no need to see the season opener.. example..

Remeber when we first saw Bizarro? I was soo stoked to see the season preimer, same for the Phantom Zone scene when it first happend, same for Season 3's season finale when Lionel went to Jail and we all though Chloe died.. it kept me interested.

This finale was lamer then all the previous ones.. it did not keep my interest to be 100% antisipation for the season premier. The story line was all over the place the fight was not iconic, Clark lives, Chloe Lived, Lois was not explained.. NOW MAYBE if they ended the show with say..... Darksied holding Lois captive.. then fade to black THEN MAYBE my opinion would be different but nope we got a naked man calling himself ZOD I got enough of a Blue Naked man in Watchmen to last me the rest of my life thank you. lol I don't need one in smallville too. AND he looked CGI'd so they can afford CGI for the ORB and for ZOD but not for an EPIC fight??

The producers PROMISED me (and all of us) an EPIC showdown! WTH was it?? I feel cheated!

[weemanwise]

I give it a 1

Completely terrible end to what in my opinion was the worst season. They should have killed off Chloe (She used to be a wonderful character but now she just annoys me.) instead of Jimmy, Clark still can't fly (What is up with that? He should have been flying back in Season 4 or 5), the Clark/Doomsday battle was weak, and the only decent parts of the episode involved Jimmy breaking into Tess's office and him finding out Clark was the RedBlue Blur.

[superspider02]

Wow well this was a very interesting and shocking finale. I totally didnt see certain things happening that happened. Overall i thought the episode was pretty good. It was alot better then last year's finale.

The opening scene with clark and rokk was just as good as when i saw the webclip for it. The flying scene added at the start was pretty good.

It was great to have bart, dinah back and working with clark. I so enjoy him being alot more proactive and leader like. Its so refreshing. But his disagreements with ollie lead to their continuing conflicts.

It was nice to see clark was helping out lois again with her feelings on chloe's wareabouts. It was cool to see the phone thing again between clark and lois.

It was cool seeing jimmy and lois working together again. I miss seeing that. Then the scene of the jl turning on clark for his protection was nice. I didnt expect clark to come right out to jimmy after he took the krypto arrow out of him. But it was cool to see happen.

As for the orb storyline i wished more was done about it cause we didnt get much explaination on it. Then who or what made it explode through the safe and where did it go.
The fight with lois and tess was pretty sweet. That was a good showdown between the to. It wasnt to shocking to see lois disapear with the legion ring and but man wow. I wonder what is going to happen with lois now. Would when she is returned to the present could they bring her back at the moment she left so things could play out differently for everyone..... Hopefully we get an explaination on that.

The spilting of davis and the beast doomsday was cool. Glad none of the jl was killed. As we all thought the director's cut was pretty much the whole dd fight. But since they only incased him into the earth's core they can easily have him show up again next season. If the rumors of them wanting to use dd again a bit next year.

The "watchtower" set looked great i do hope it becomes the official jl hq next season and all that. From what we saw it was pretty cool looking. But then the whole davis pissed off, chloe and jimmy getting back together was a great sequence of scenes. But man totally didnt expect them to go and off jimmy. Wow i am surpirsed DC allowed them to do that to a mythos character. But it was sweet they had jimmy die a hero and he killed human davis.

The furenal scene was bittersweet and very sad. It was nice that bart, dinah, ollie, and even clarked showed up there. Only thing i thought was a bit out was the whole jimmy has a little brother deal. Didnt he say he didnt know where/who his mom was and that his dad was a drunk jerk in chicago or something..... But i do wonder if jimmy's brother will become the future real jimmy now?????

The end scene with clark and chloe in "watchtower" was another great scene. Very sad to see clark lose faith in humanity and wants to leave his clark self for good. I cant wait to see where the show goes now next year.

The final scene with Tess in the mansion very interesting and the rebirth of Zod looked sweet. Hopefully in the premiere they explain more how everything happened with that. cant wait for season 9 in the fall.

[melissan02]

Sorry, but all turd sandwich...no sprinkles for me.:(:mad:

[clanaluva4Life]

BIG FAILURE.. so many big names in the ep and nothing outstanding! the legion guy, justice league, doomsday. all in one ep and that was the outcome???? i give it a 2 . 1 for killing jimmy and 1 for that jerk zod at the end

[Timester]

Clark lives, Chloe Lived

First mistake. You can't hold them responsible for not showing what you were expecting.


Lois was not explained..

Second mistake. Lois was not explained because it was the cliffhanger.


we got a naked man calling himself ZOD

And isn't that shocking enough for you? Zod being around?

[Kryptochloe]

1. Awful. Really?? This is the season finale???

Im wondering honestly who's happy know? Mythos fans? Clois fans? Chlark fans? Jimmy fans? Chlavis fans?


Good Job TPTB... Almost all your fans dissapointed...

[JDS2930]

it was a good episode, but no way near a finale quality, they promised a big throw down between clark and DD, that was DD punching him a couple times and then clark taking him to the plant. oh wow, lois and clark in the beginning was nice and jimmy being somewhat of a hero was nice, and the JL was a letdown too, i wanted to see impulse and canary use their powers a little more, this episode just came up short with prety much everything

I agree. This was a good episode, but by no means fantastic. The Clark/DD fight and the appearances by the JL and Legion were overhyped for the amount of time we actually saw them. The Jimmy plot twist was definitely surprising and a good twist, I'll admit. At the same time, I do feel it was a cheap retcon specifically for the finale as we all know Aaron was brought on as playing the comic book Jimmy when he was introduced three years ago.

And who was the old but new familiar face? Zod? I really thought it was going to be Kara. I'm disappointed they didn't bring her back for the finale since her episode was the season's highest rated. However, I do think they have to bring her back next season now for the following two reasons:

1. The whole Kandor plot point. Now that Kandor's been brought into the plot, how can Kara not come back since the whole point of her leaving Smallville at the end of "Bloodline" was to find Kandor? I will be very disappointed if Kara is not brought back (even for just a few episodes) as part of the Kandor plotline.

2. It's been pretty much stated on the boards here and on ew.com in Aussiello's interview with Aaron that "our" Jimmy's death and the revelation that his little brother is in fact the "real" Jimmy (James Bartolomew Olsen) so that the show would line up with the Superman mythos with the real Jimmy being about ten years younger than Lois and Clark. Why is this a reason to bring Kara back? Well if they are going to make what up until now seemed like a conflicting age difference between the comic book Jimmy and the "Smallville" Jimmy, then doesn't the same age problem need to be rectifed for Kara? She somehow has to still be a teenager when Clark becomes Superman.

[Kschreck]

I completely agree. I love Smallville and I want to see a season 9, but given the choice between a great, iconic ending in season 8 or more seasons of mediocrity, I would have Smallville end on a high note.


Exactly!



Now people are getting why I'm against season 10...


I'll admit, it's hard to let go of a show that was doing amazing things. I am picky when it comes to tv but Smallville was perfect with the big budget, better producers, etc. I loved everything about it. I didn't want Smallville to vanish and I still don't but the budget problems, losing the actors, etc has completely destroyed the show. It's like an empty shell of it's former self. Every little detail that went into making past episodes awesome are gone. The good characters, the amazing music, the big action sequences, the sense of exploration all around the world, etc. It's just all gone. Now Clark can't even walk around his front yard anymore because it doesn't even exist anymore. :(

[Doomsday44]

Never been let down more with an episode.

[thehenry89]

Horribe, bland writting contried plot devices and pointless retconning hated it worst season finale ever and one of the worst episodes of smallville ever.

[melissan02]

Now people are getting why I'm against season 10...Noooooo! Just say NO to season 10! Give me a Melrose Place remake anyday!:mad:

[pen2paper]

This episode alone almost turns me off smallville. That being said I'll probably watch next season. *sighs*

[melissan02]

Never been let down more with an episode.

Word!

[Hounshell]

This is what happens when a show's budget gets cut.
The original writers are moved to different projects, new writers and effects people replace them.

Even the actors are shuffled off - you don't see some main characters for huge stretches of time.

Damn, in a previous show they didn't even know that Shelby is a "he" dog.
So that proves the new writers did not take time to learn about and follow the story.


It is sad to see them destroy good (wannabe great) shows with budget cuts like this.

I saw them do it to "Charmed"
now they've done it to "Smallville"


sad that the studio execs don't/cant learn from these mistakes.

[h-rob]

Wow, that was.........awful

Zod? Clark at the end? Lois had all of like 3 min. screen time and now she's in limbo. Jimmy was the best part of the episode and they killed him off. Chloe is still here but is left with a blood stain and no one. Doomsday just went away. WTF? and why did tess have to wonder around the house for 3 min, just to find the light. Im not gonna lie, that stunk. They have some MAJOR redeeming to do in Sept.

oh so I give it a 1 if you couldnt tell.

[gbsrnumber5]

This episode alone almost turns me off smallville. That being said I'll probably watch next season. *sighs*

Me too. Apparently I enjoy being disappointed...

[dotsie23]

Okay what was this? The ending was huh? no fight just a short shoving match between Clark and the plastic gray costumed monster. Who was that suppose to have been at the end...was that Clark? and killing off Jimmy!?! a big mistake. The JL members are a lot more powerful than that! Where was Canary's sonic screech? Bart's superspeed? Green Arrow is an expert with the bow and arrow very weak. I was all prepared for an exciting show and all I got was a let down...Boo!

[LoD]

Well, guess I'm in the minority then. I really liked the episode. Maybe my expectations were appropriately low but I wasn't bothered by the rushed pacing or split-second fight sequence. (Just from the description I think you could tell they were trying to do too much with too little money.) I liked the characters, though, and didn't mind the Jimmy retcon, although I loved AA in the role and wouldn't mind seeing him reprise it elsewhere. I always thought Davis was a villain so no surprises there either.

Thematically, I liked where they left off. I thought TW brought the darkness minus the angst and that it will be interesting to see Clark finally reverse positions on the human v. alien issue (even if he is destined to find equilibrium there). And I thought it was possibly significant that losing Lois coincided with Clark's decision to reject human emotion. And I wonder what it means that Clark doesn't remember how he got out of the pit. It was rushed, but definitely no worse than last year's finale, imo. All in all, I'm left excited for season 9.

[Kryptochloe]

...And they wanna make season 10??????? Really, for what?????

[lm1212]

I'm still trying to figure out if we were all Punk'd. Ashton??? Where are you???

[MeLois]

I'm really really confused. I do like that Clark FINALLY accepts who he is. That we did find out that Chloe has always been in love with Jimmy. Jimmy was a total hero and Davis was indeed not as innocent as we thought he was.

But I DID NOT like that Lois had pretty much no air time. WTF happened to the whole "Lois/Clark fans will forgive us" stuff? It sucked! That was horrible. It was like Lois didn't even have a point in the episode other than to get the Legion Ring.

Since I'm pretty confused, I'm going with a 6 on this one. Definitely not the best episode ever, nor anywhere near the best season finale. But I didn't think it totally sucked all.

[Bre723]

Okay, was it that bad?
I gave it a 9.
No, it wasn't perfect, but it was good, I think it would have been different if this was a regular episode and not a finale it would have gotten a 10 from most people.
I don't think we are ever going to see another finale like "Commencement".
It was NOT worse than "Power" at least,haha.
I am sad to see Jimmy die though, especially just when him and Chloe had that moment.
And the "death" of Clark, I'm interested to see were that goes in season 9, I'm saying it's going to last for about.................one episode,haha.
I am disappointed in the lack of Lois/Clois though.

[damara531]

Yeah, wow! This episode made my brain hurt...and not in a good "How did they do that?" sort of way either! I can understand how the storyline is advancing the Superman plot...I mean obviously Clark had to accept his Kryptonian heritage somehow. But WTF?! I feel like I'm in an episode of South Park, "THEY KILLED JIMMY!" Why? And where the hell is Lois? And WHY the hell is Clark giving up on her so soon so that he can disappear behind a rock somewhere? AND, what the hell is up with his sudden transparency? 'Cause I'm pretty sure THAT was never one of his superpowers! And could the faceoff between Clark and Doomsday been anymore anticlimatic? Yeah. My. Brain. Hurts.

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[smallvillereporter27]

:lol: Oh my god. This episode was just...wow. I don't even know what to make of it. Honestly, my first reaction was: Jeez, everyone on K-site is going to be pissed!

I'm sorry but all I can do is laugh! TPTB actually wrote an episode that pissed off almost everyone! I don't know whether to applaud them or grab a pitchfork and hunt them down.

Well, in all honesty the actual episode was not bad. I can see why some are upset, but the overall quality of this episode wasn't bad. The DD/Clark fight could've been better, but we can sum that up to budget problems. I actually only had a few problems with it, and it was more characters reacting weird. Davis? All of the sudden, he's a crazy person? One of his reasons to convince Chloe to stay with him was so that he wouldn't kill Clark. I can see why he'd be angry, but I feel he overreacted somewhat. Then again, they did this to show Clark that humanity can suck sometimes so :\. Secondly, Clark tells Chloe he feels responsible and Chloe doesn't try to take any of the blame? For once I actually wasn't too pleased with Chloe. However, for all of you Chloe-haters out there look at it this way: she's all alone now.

And Clark...well I feel that TPTB just threw away a year's worth of progress. But, this is Smallville, what were you expecting :p

Oh, and they killed Jimmy Olsen (sort of). Thanks TPTB! :lol:

Here's to season 9!

[djexplosive]

Well.. I'm not going to get into details. This show has officially ended it's season in my eyes. I will not be watching season 9.

I consider myself a huge superman and mytho fan, but this episode.. this episode was brilliantly the worst finale, the worst episode the shows history.


For one, why build up doomsday if that's the fight we were gonna see? a 3 second spear into a electrical facility with no resolve? You could've done a better job setting up a possible "doomsdays not dead, see ya in season 9" scenario.

God.

[Cogito17]

My biggest problem with this episode (among several), was that there was no real sense of a climax. Knowing Smallville's budget/their history with fights on the show, my expectations were not too high to begin with, but I was still disappointed. The main problem is that what I would consider the "true climax" of the season (where Clark defeats Doomsday), took place in Offscreensville. Then, we are given some vague description by Clark at the end about getting Doomsday in the hole, and just being able to escape. They should have SHOWN us that, not TOLD us about it.

One other thing that bothered me was that Clark spent the last few episodes telling Oliver he was wrong to kill/want to kill Doomsday, only to turn around and say that Oliver was right all along in this episode.

It wasn't all bad, the death of Jimmy was sad, and also lined up well with the mythos (too bad I finally started to like Jimmy this season, I'll miss AA). They have some interesting things set up for the next season, but in turns of wrapping up what was going on in this season, I was slightly disappointed.

[NoSupeForYou]

They didn't kill Jimmy, they erased him.

[Violet-Shadow]

I gave it a five, which is being lenient. I was SO disappointed. Right now, I'm emotional but I tried to be rationale with my score. The first half of the episode had plenty of high points. The Bliss, ie Clark talking to Lois as The Blur, scene was great. The Jimmy and Lois interaction was also quite spectacular (I think my favorite moment). And of course the wonderful Jimmy finding out the truth about Clark. The Chimmy scene would've made me happy but I knew that Davis would interrupt it.

But the huge disappointments: 1) the Clark/DD fight. That's it??? 2) Where's the scene that was supposed to make Clois fans forgive all? As a fan of Bliss, I loved that scene but it doesn't count for Clois and I'm sure a lot of Clois fans were majorly diappointed 3) THE BIG ONE - Jimmy is not Jimmy? Total retcon! He has been Jimmy Olsen! Like so many other Jimmy's I have loved! I don't think this was planned from his introduction on the show. I'm SO SO SO mad right now. If Jimmy does not come back, I think I'm DONE with SV. No amount of Clois or Bliss will intice me to return. I'll just stick to the real versions of Superman.

[melissan02]

By far the best scene...though bittersweet now:(,
was the Clark/Jimmy scene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Made of all kinds of awesome!
He was THE Jimmy Olsen...and long shall he live in mythos!!!!!!!!!

Oh and BTW, where was Lois in this episode? I thought she was supposed to be in this one?:rolleyes::mad::(

[Kryptochloe]

How is it they weren't be able to make right at list one storyline?

[Crouching Lurker]

The episode was okay, but I ended up giving it a 1 because I expect a lot more out of a season finale. It literally felt like a bunch of scenes pieced together; there was no particular flow. You could tell the show runners were in a room with a legal pad checking off loose ends they needed to tie up. As others have said it also felt very anti-climatic. I knew as soon as "Jimmy" found out about Clark he was a dead man, lol. I was just counting down the minutes till it finally happened.

So after all the hubbub blah blah about finding a way to save Davis, turns out he was still a monster. Imagine that...

The Clark/Dooms fight did nothing for me, I actually have to go back and look to see what happened. I forgot what happens after Clark made the super leap (flight?). I didn't even pay attention to how it ended. I liked Clark over all, I understood about him being a bit angsty in the beginning. I'm sure I would be too if I knew I was going to die in less than 24 hours. He was acting very strange at the end, maybe it was the weight of the world on his shoulders, I don't know. I hope he's not being controlled or something. I don't know how much Lois's disappearance had to do with it. Can't wait to find out next season what's going on.

As regards Clois; I never believed the BS about all will be forgiven, or whatever, so I wasn't expecting much especially with Erica's limited screen time. The RBB/Lois was very nice, we had that scene in Stiletto; but I enjoyed it just as much in this episode. Clark's been watching her in secret and I'm glad he told her he's been keeping an eye on her and reassuring her that he was looking for Chloe. Nice scene. Can't wait to find out what happened to Lois. They'll be able to get an episode or two out of that at the beginning of Season 9. Smallville: The search for Lois. :D

Overall they're trying to jury rig events to line up with the mythos, that's fine I just wish they'd have a well thought out plan ahead of time and stop retconning stuff to get it done. I didn't fall asleep, but it was a pretty blah episode.

[trh1976]

Before I give my rating for this episode, I must first give my reasons for it. From the very beginning, this show has had the liberty of creating the early universe for superman. It has had the liberty of exploring his youth, his coming of age, the spotlight on a god amongst men. The writers have done such a wonderful job of giving us little instances where we see the greatness of superman in development. The superman lore has been cut and pasted to suit the needs of the show, but thats what makes it work. We the audience have endured countless loves and losses, misery, justice, triumph, and total alien chaos that Clark has endured. Through it all, I have hoped that the show would take the next step.
Iconically, if I were to ask what superman is known for, many if not all would say, "Hey, the guy with all the powers WHO CAN FLY!!!! My God, why oh why can he not fly?:confused: I dont care about much, I enjoy the show for its many trivial escapades but......this guy needs to fly. Period.
The episode got a 5 from me because of the Justice League, the 6 minutes of Lois, and Doomsday killing everything. But like most smallville episodes this season, we had to deal with Chloe, Tess, and Clark pouting about how (spoiler) he is responsible for someones death. [Mod Edit] :mad::rolleyes::mad::rolleyes: Here we go again with the emo issues. I suppose the writers will milk that for about 4 episodes.
If this show cannot get it together and start making sense, I am done. Im frustrated and annoyed and want this guy to be superman. Not the red blue blur(which has got to be the dumbest name ever) but SUPERMAN. Do it, just do it. Give in. You know you want to. Screw the rights over the suit, flying, or the name. Their probably going to make another crappy movie any way with Brandon (I look like an idiot) Routh. Take a risk and do it.

[Aries83]

C'mon, just enjoy the ride.

I'm not happy with some of the plot points either, but I'm going to watch until the Series Finale.

I agree with you about the lack of a battle between Doomsday and Clark, but maybe the Season 9 premiere will pick up where it left off.

I personally didn't like the send off for Jimmy, no matter how heroic it was. Frankly, it was worse than Lana's arc.

The main thing I had a problem with was the fact that the "deaths" were so played up that I felt no excitement or no surprise when Davis and Jimmy took their last breaths. Most of all, I'm more upset about the ending. Zod was too obvious an enemy to bring into the picture, so I was just sitting here like "Oh, it's Zod...that's it?"

I mean, I realize they're going into Season 9, but surprise us. If anything, last week's reveal of Tess being the savior of Kandor should've been written into this episode instead.

I don't know. I enjoyed it, but it didn't blow me away. After all these years, I've just learned to enjoy (to the best of my ability) what they give us.

I just hope they blow us away next year...

[Kal26]

I don't think it was the worst episode, I reserve that for super lana, but it was definitely the worst finale of the series imo.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Ok... did I miss something here are we all watching the same show? Yeah it wasn't the greatest Finale of Smallville, but please it was definitely better than Artic. Almost everything is better than Artic! I'm not going to rate it yet going to give it a couple of more watches.

I thought it was a good season finale. I know many of you believe that Clark has once again regressed back to his whining self, but I'm looking at the glass half full, maybe something good will come out of his reevaluating his life.

Jimmy dieing...Arron Ashmore is a good actor and stepped up to the plate through out his tenure, but alas all good things must come to an end. I thought he had a pretty good send off. So the real Jimmy Olsen is going to be his younger brother in the future. Mythos fans are going to love this.

Now Davis dieing seems odd to me...so no more Sam Witwer? I like Davis I think Sam Witwer is a great addition to the cast he better come back!!!

Epic fight, not really, but Fx was pretty cool. I didn't expect any epic fight anyways after seeing Artic and how they ended things with Lex in the Last scene... I just don't trust them..oh well

I really wanted more Clois interaction, not in a romantic way but just some emotional feed back from the characters.

Chloe...wow I don't even know what to think her life is just Tragic Soap Opera...Can it get any worse? Hmmm Yeah I'm sure it can. I feel so bad for her...:\ Her still in love with Jimmy maybe a little bit of a stretch.

Clark? How the hell did he escape from the blast big question mark? Oh And I was wondering if he actually flied with Doomsday or was it just a giant leap? And how did he disappear into thin air when he left the room after making his I am no longer Clark Kent Speech?

Lois was great as usual I still wanted more of her though, I just don't understand why they don't build her character more... I'm really going to miss the Lois Jimmy duo...It was fun while it lasted *sigh*:\
I loved the Oliver/Clark dynamic going on in the beginning of the episode and also towars the end at the funeral. The Chemisty was very good they showed their emotions more in action than words and it says a lot.

Tess was pretty good also with her cat fight with Lois,even though I'm sure it wasn't needed. I guess some viewers get a kick out of girl fights :lol:

It wasn't Smallvilles greatest finale IMO, but it wasn't the worst either. I have to watch it again before I rate to check out the small nuances so I can get a better feel about it.

But I think its pretty solid expect for a few plot holes here and there...SV is known for this :rolleyes: So I liked it I guess.;)

[Jawth]

I'm not estatic over it, but you really need to go watch Power, Requiem, Thirst, Injustice, and Velocity again if you think this was the worst of the series.

Ultimately, it was decent enough I'll be sticking around next year.

[KryptoKnight]

I actually liked it because I got the feeling the writers are showing signs of taking the series to the next level when they had Clark saying he was dead. No tlike we haven't been disappointed before, but we shall see.

[dawho2]

I've been on this forum a long time. Don't say much. I feel compelled to. Horrible, choppy, forced, and misused :(

1/10

[Uruk-Hai]

disappointing...confussing....

[Glove]

Doomsday was a step up from Arctic, but I don't see how they
could have gotten much worse than that. All and all, I gave it
an 8 which means season 8 will go down as above average.
Season 6 is still the best. :\

The episode was busy, but not bad busy. They did a splendid
job with making it all fit. Only real complaint, I didn't see the
point in having the Justice League in the episode besides eye
candy...they didn't do anything with them. No Justice League
vs. Doomsday fight worth mentioning, not even 30 seconds.:mad:
Maybe, they'll have some deleted scenes in the DVD release
that will make up for that discrepency.:rolleyes: The Clark vs.
Doomsday fight was a bit skimpy for my taste. Spend an
entire season building up to this for less than a five minute
fight scene. I feel sorry for the fans this really made angry.

Watchtower set will be cool when it is completed. No stock
image of it to show, yet. They'll have to get some first. The
deaths were done in an acceptable fashion. They chose the
best way to write characters out and remain somewhat
surprising. The ending was interesting with Tess and the
purple orb. We now know who the new season 9 villian is?

This episode stands slightly behind the shows best Justice,
Phantom, and Reckoning in my personal opinion. It fell
short only because the action fell short. Better luck in
season 9.:p

[clarkcasas]

I loved it, one of the best season finales ever!

I love it cos it keeps me wanting more, looking forward to season 9 and getting all the answeres we need!

It was COnfusing, but i think thats what a season finale is for, to get answers on the next season.

Great Job writers and awesome job to the actors they did an amazing Job, good season guys, heres to season 9!!!!

[LEJ]

Ya know, I love Smallville, I really do. It is the highlight of my TV week, heck sometimes (sadly enough) it is the highlight of my week, but sometimes Smallville has the tendency to totally hype something up, and then lame out when it comes to doing it.

They spent all season talking about this big showdown between Doomsday and Clark, and a Legionnaire from the future even comes and says Clark is killed by Doomsday, and then when it actually comes down to it, they fight for like two seconds, and then Doomsday gets blown up like there is nothing to it- and we don't even get to see anything! Maybe it was a budget thing, I dunno, and it would be fine if this was the first time it had happened, but this anti-climax ending seems to occur a lot in Smallville (aka the season 7 finale where Clark and Lex talk for only two minutes after Lex figures out Clark's secret, which we had been waiting for for 7 years!). So, I feel bad writing this, but I just feel like the whole thing was anti-climatic.

I do like how Clark is taking further steps to become superman, and although I was sad to see Jimmy go, I'm really happy he and Chloe made up, and I think it is cool that they set his younger brother up to be Jimmy olsen II. But overall, I feel like the episode was kinda "eh."

[crazy4clois]

I think I let myself get too excited about this finale. I thought it was a neat twist, making the "real" Jimmy be SV Jimmy's little bro even though it wasn't really necessary. It makes me sad, cuz it's like all of Jimmy's screen time was just erased. It wasn't real in a sense, you know? God, they better not have Lois lose her memory cuz that would be another slap in the face. I have a feeling she'll come back, not know Clark, he'll know her, and he'll be wearing glasses. Bingo, back to mythos! Please don't take away the SV Clois!

[Ilovebeinglost]

Anyone else notice that this was the first time they announced it was the season finale? I guess if they haven't done that we never would have known and would be looking for it next week. :lol:

[nyctnafan100]

i gave it a 9. the show has grown up as someone said before. my favs were also the clark and lois phone scene got me emotional, jimmys reaction to clark secret was tremendous and jimmy dying was sad to watch. i liked aaron's character. it seems some people want everything. i wasnt expecting a huge doomsday and clark fight so no problem there. im glad chloe and justin are safe and will be there next year. also thank god tess returns. 9 out of 10 for me the teasing of the cemetery scene in the preview made me think clarks funeral more so the way that went kinda turned off me and got me upset. i think people need to take a look at their smallville history. clark saying clark kent is dead to me signifies he won't guided by his emotions any longer however he will still use the clark persona i feel. anyway happy with the eppy looking forward to season 9.

[Habits]

I gave it a 5. It's kinda sad but I had no emotional involvement to any of the characters in tonights episode. They've retconned everyone so many times and had them switching from being the good guy to bad guy more often than they do in the WWE that I am seriously losing any connection with anyone.

The only person who hasn't changed is Lois and she was hardly in the episode. The fight was a huge letdown in as much as the spoilers mentioned it was supposed to be epic, I guess if you add fail it would more sum up that fight but I can appreciate how they are trying to tie it into the mythos as in the comics Doomsday punched his way out of some kind of underground structure. It gives time for Clark to become Superman before the real battle royale between those two.

As for Jimmy(Henry) dying that doesn't bother me much, the foreshadowing was there with his quitting the DP, getting hooked on drugs, alienating everyone in his life and whatnot. My own father uses his middle name because he doesn't like his given name so that isn't hard for me to believe so that is one minor retcon I can live with.

Overall it was an ok episode, spoilers overhyped it big time and I can understand why so many are disappointed but that's the risk people take by looking for spoilers all the time.

[SmallvilleStud]

10!!! This episode was fantastic! For those of you who are saying they hated for the lack of CK/DD fight, so what it didnt need to be a epic battle. And Clarks not dead, when he said "Clark Kent is dead" he simply ment he is leaving that part of him behind. And with that last part, the ZOD!!! that was a great scene. For those of you who didn't like it, you need to read between the lines! I will say it again 10!!! For those of you who did like this one, GOOD FOR YOU, you were able to comprehend what was going on.

[SVFancross]

Jimmy finding out was the best part of the episode IMO. It felt very satisfying. If you accept the mulligan that he's really Henry James not James Bartholomew, then Jimmy got a great great exit.

I'll miss AA -- I'm hoping he gets picked up by some other show. He really did get to show off acting chops this year in several episodes.


ETA: I presume the heartbreaking decision was to turn his back on his own humanity and walk away from Chloe when she had lost everyone else. It was clear he was hurting when he hugged her but he is overwhelmed by guilt. Clark needs to become confident in his own choices and accept that he can't fix everything IMO. Better to be true to your own moral code and accept the consequences than to give up on your own beliefs. Jonathon and Martha told him his humanity is important. He's going to have to let his guilt go and accept his human failings IMO. He's NOT infallible, he shouldn't expect to be.

[bigknga]

i have defended smallville for years, have tried to give it a chance....and i even went on to say that allllll these rediculous changes in the mythos were "refreshing" all the while i was pissed and was hoping that the writers could save the show and pull it out of the trash....then i saw doomsday...the season finale....and saw jimmy olsen die.....and chloe survive.....along with tess.......lois dissappear.....and NO FIGHT!!! I was set up....they promised so much for this and THAT is how they end it?!! I know the importance of a cliffhanger.....but really.....how can there even be one when they failed to put suspense in there? I ended up not even caring to find out what happens next season, i could care less about where lois went....where clark is....where zod came from......etc etc etc. i hate this show now. i cant even stomach another episode.:mad:

[Mythosgirl]

Okay, I gave my very first ever 1. I really did. There were so many things that disappointed me that I barely got through it. I have been extremely disappointed on how the justice league has worked together and I was hoping they would play a bigger part in the episode. The Chloe (who I happen to like) soap opera just would not end and I found myself not caring a thing about characters who I normally love. Could Chole have flip flopped more about Davis. I did not by the Jimmy/Chloe reunion at all.

Killing Jimmy Olsen...great. Speeechless on this one. My favorite scenes this evening were of him and Lois and him and Clark.

Lois. Well we all know that she isn't even worth Clark Kent looking for. Not even a hint that he was worried about her. Oh thanks for our much hyped Clois moment.

Clark vanishing to become....just a mad alien? What?

The upside is I saved $2.99 as I won't be downloading this puppy,

[jsith99]

Budget woes are one thing but could someone tell TPTB that just because Clark/Superman has respect for all life dose not keep him from throwing a punch to take out a power player If I wanted to see a scripted wrestling moves I would watch Smackdown

[smilingalways2]

I was speechless. What a major loophole??? What a way to "fix" a "problem" they knowingly caused when they decided to cast someone Clark's age. So instead, they decide to tell us Jimmy isn't really THE Jimmy Olsen...twist...yes....good? Not IMO.

What's next, Lois isn't really the Lois Lane??? Ay, ay, ay. They wanted to align with mythos and they begin with correcting Jimmy's age difference???? I will really miss Aaron Ashmore and I will miss him as Jimmy Olsen.

Ironically, the only good parts I can think of in this episode, have to do with Jimmy. I loved the scene between Jimmy and Lois in Tess' office. I loved his scene with Clark when he revealed he's the RBB and he practically called him Superman. Lastly, I loved his scene with Chloe when he showed her his wedding gift to her and then saved her from Davis. Everything else is just a blur ...except when TPTB kill Jimmy permanently with this "loophole".

I did also like when Clark mentioned looking for Lois, he looked concerned and hurt that he couldn't find her and then he emotionally shut down with Chloe (and apparantly all humanity).

After this, I'm afraid to see what TPTB will do in Season 9....Not a season finale to remember for me anyway.

[B!zzaro91]

man i was so mad...they build all season like there's gonna be a fight but BAM!!! lamest fight i've ever seen!

Doomsday will must return!

[Steve-El]

I'm not at all disappointed, it was just the fight between Clark and Doomsday and he's pummeled by Doomsday and not even able to throw in a single punch on him. Only to have him get a hold on him, superl eaps into the air and throws Doomsday bony butt down into the Geothermal Plant's shaft. Clark somehow survives just before Dinah ignites the detonators that buries Doomsday in the shaft.

The only good fight was Lois and Tess.
What's wrong with Greenpeace? LOL

The returning League members, Dinah (Black Canary) and Bart (Impulse), seemed a little more darker in character. So was Oliver (Green Arrow) since he's killed Lex Luthor which he admitted to Clark in the previous episode "Injustice"

OMG! Davis is separated from the beast, only to have go psycho and stab and kill Jimmy with a metal pipe and having Jimmy retaliate and pushes Davis into a crate of pipes where is also impaled and dies. RIP Jimmy and Davis.

And who's has the kryptonian Orb of Kandor released as a figure is brought out in the open as Tess watches on? Is Zod himself back? And has Kandor been saved? Is Tess the savior? When and where is Lois? She went poof and disappeared when she found the Legion ring. We'll have to wait and see when Season Nine premieres in September.

This was a terrific eighth season and I give a lot of kudos to the cast for their portrayals in tonight's episode. Two characters are gone -- Jimmy and Davis. Possibly two new for Season 9.

[4Clana]

ITA, worst finale of the series by far!

[mrsgsmr]

Felt robbed. Seems like some sceens were very well done and some sloppy. Like they added/deleted/modified sceens when they found out there will be a season 9, that this was not going to be the shows final episode. I will have to watch it again, maybe I'll be able to pick up some plot for next year. The only thing I really wished for in this episode, was the final sceen with Clark and Cloe, when he went to the door, I was wishing he would have took off slowly into the sky, not disapeared...what gives with that!

[Promise]

Not sure if you guys have seen this..
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/smallville-excl.html

Thanks.

I gave the episode a 4.

I liked:
Older Jimmy learning about Clark.

I actually like Lois time traveling and to be honest, that is/was the true Cliff hanger, so yes Clois/Lois fans, Lois's scene is my Cliffhanger, I'm interested to know what happened. Thought maybe we would get a hint towards the end, but not.

I liked that the orb was found.

seeing the real Jimmy.

Clark

Learning how Doomsday was put underground. So glad it wasn't the epic fight, because he is not Superman yet, so thank you writers.

Didn't like:

Doomsday. This season was suppose to be all about Clark and Doomsday and that was not the case at all in this finale, but glad its over.

Chloe: Although they closed the whole Chloe/Jimmy/Davis arc, too much time was spent on them, I watch Smallville for Clark, not Chloe.

Not enough Clark

Zod. Ok yeah its cool he is coming, but there no shock factor. none at all.


My Season 9 hopes are this:

Clark and glasses
More Clark focus
FOS returns
Perry, but after Christmas sweeps
Less Clois adventures.

Probably others, but that's all I can think of. Too bumb out about the disappointment of Dumbsday. I was hoping for an emotional connect with this episode. None whatso ever. This will not be a long 4 months for me.

[dimefan90]

i loved it. it sets up superman and corrects a lot of things i was unhappy with.

[Rhaspodel]

This was a 4.5 in my opinion. PS literally just destroyed how a SV finale supposed to look and have sense of amazment and shocking surprises. They written some past season finales before, but this one was ABSOULTELY their worst episode ever written.

I'm STILL surprised how this was a finale. If they push it to 23 episodes, I could understand more, but come on how they use Lois this season, Jimmy, Lex, and Lana was just crazy. Clark's and Chloe's direction were the only ones that was the most positive of the season especially the Clois relationship.

If this is how they do a season by themselves, watchout because I expect season 9 will really turn a tide!

[Promise]

10!!! This episode was fantastic! For those of you who are saying they hated for the lack of CK/DD fight, so what it didnt need to be a epic battle. And Clarks not dead, when he said "Clark Kent is dead" he simply ment he is leaving that part of him behind. And with that last part, the ZOD!!! that was a great scene. For those of you who didn't like it, you need to read between the lines! I will say it again 10!!! For those of you who did like this one, GOOD FOR YOU, you were able to comprehend what was going on.

I completely understood what was going on, but I still apreciate good writing and this was not good writing.

[itashy]

im with everyone else...sure it wont win any awards but come on its a tv show...1 there not running a movie budget,two if more people would stop complaining about bad episodes and recruiting others to watch the epic episodes and bring up the the ratings,,,because come on 4 million people?? is that around the world? but anyway i would much rather it end this way then last years season finale of "im sorry but it has to end this way" imo that was the worst season ender

[candor]

Awful wish i could rate it a 0 the actors all did a good job.. but the script was brutal
right on! its like they wrote this episode for children! it was horrible!

[Rosa76]

So much for my "Clark using the Legion ring to change a few things" therory:\

thats what I thought Clark would do also:\

[candor]

i loved it. it sets up superman and corrects a lot of things i was unhappy with.
im sorry but what did it correct!? cause i missed that if it happend.

[LuthorKent90]

I hated it. Worst season finale of the series IMO.

Less than two minute scene between Clark and Doomsday? And it SUCKED.
I get they have a tight budget. But if you're going to name the season finale "Doomsday" you gotta have more Doomsday! Not just the human persona, Davis.

And don't even get me started on Jimmy is not really Jimmy Olsen! (and having the nerve to say that his little brother is the real Jimmy Olsen:mad:)
Why the heck would they bring him in in the first place? :(
I'm going to miss the Jimmy/Lois scenes.

Bart and Canary were practically useless!

[-Nora-]

Just one thing:

Where [Mod Edit] is Lois.

Epic FAIL.

[Mai4et0]

this really made me laugh

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