View Full Version : Loved It? Hated It? What Did You Think Of "Doomsday?"
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-23-2009, 08:48 PM
Oh dear Cedric...I know you still are recovering from Shock are still might be in Shock. But
I think many of us whether we hated the finale loved it or just don't know what to think about it....*sigh* really miss you I know I do...so I hope you come back and review before you get carpal tunnel or arthritis....:lol: okay not funny. Take your time. Waiting patiently or at least trying...lol ;)
Promise
05-23-2009, 11:09 PM
Cedric was probably sent back/to the past/future like Lois to correct things.
EternalTwilight
05-23-2009, 11:17 PM
He'll be back with a vengeance. :D
Greygor
05-24-2009, 04:20 AM
Ok so I've been a bit lucky, when I watch a show, I don't read any spoiler's or potential spoilers. So I had no expectations for this episode.
The interesting thing about Smallville was that the creator wanted to show Clark's early years but did not want to use the costume, or indeed any costumes.
The Bad thing about Smallville was that the creator wanted to show Clark's early years but did not want to use the costume, or indeed any costumes.
If you want to avoid the costume you eventually paint yourself into a corner because you have to put off that final moment that we all want to see.
So you have Season after Season at the start with Freak of the Week and every Laboratory, Warehouse, Basement, Boudoir and Print Room (The recent funny money gangster episode) filled with Kryptonite just to provide a threat.
In fact Kryptonite in Smallville is almost as bad as the Sonic Screwdriver used to be (and sometimes still is) in Dr. Who. A Deus Ex Machina that the writers pull out to provide a threat or Solution.
Now I had a marathon season of watching Seasons 2 onwards so I could be ready for the Rumoured "Legion" episode. This intense exposure meant that instead of seeing a gradual evolution that Weekly viewers got I believe I noticed the trends, re-occurances of storylines much more than I would have normally.
From That I got
Lana - Arrrghhh! Please no more, on again, of again, on again, off again. Go Away.
Clark - For the Love of God Cheer up, and how many times are you going to be fooled because you trust that deep down everyone can be good. In the comics that is there, but there is also the realisation that you use Common Sense with this.
So now to this series and episode.
I had heard the writers were going to try and align the series more with the comic and breakout from the straitjacket of the original concept.
I had seen that with the introduction of the "JLA" and all in all I'm fine with them. I did notice some of the actors almost fighting against their script to keep their characters portrayal stable. My only Complaint was Black Canary who needs a serious costume change so she doesn't look like a Hooker with a Bladerunner fetish.
This season brought more of that especially with the Legion episode which I thought was cool.
Then Lana came back (as I said I'd just had a recent intense experience watching all this) and that made these episodes all the more painful. Oh and By the Way is Zod less of a threat when you can call up your Kryptonite Irradiated Ex-Girlfriend to give you a helping hand
What of the finale?
Rokk arranges to meet Clark to give him a ring that will transport Doomsday into the future. This came from left field and seemed disjointed.
Lois puts on the ring a disappears into the future. Is this a set up so that she return without memory of CK so she can meet CK for the first time at the Daily Planet, glasses and all?
Davis and Doomsday are seperated. Now we have a buried unkillable killing machine with a grudge against CK. I can go with that, but I'd like some episodes to show what happened.
Davis is killed, fair enough, you can't kill 50 people without it sending you over the edge, punishment has to be there. In your Psychosis the one thing that you thought kept you sane is in love with someone else. You remove that person. So Jimmy being attacked is logical, and his death is part of that realignment to the comic.
Chloe protecting Davis, in two minds about this. The Character seems to have been unevenly written for quite sometime. The Watchtower provides direction and an excuse for more JLA. It puts her in the Sue Dibney/Oracle role. I'm fine with that.
Tess, She just needs to go so that Perry White can come in. Never liked the charcter.
Zod, no threat, remember "Hi Lana, it's Clark. Got a bit of a problem can you spare a couple of minutes"
Clark - A lot of wierdness here, the slow fade, he's at the funeral with the JLA guys, but says he didn't find/know what happened to them? WTH? Determination to do the right thing with his powers might be interesting. I'll reserve judgement
Anyway, I didn't hate the episode, didn't love it. But I will watch next season to see if the writers can paint their way out of the corner that the first 5 or 6 painted them into.
And I'm pretty sure that many of you, including the haters here, may well do the same ;)
tibbit78
05-24-2009, 07:31 AM
CHLOEVILLE! MUST BE STOPPED!
This is Clark's show not Chloe's!
Why she got so much screen time in this finale I will never know..
Clark Kent V Doomsday! more like Clark Kent V Man in a horrific rubber suit!
I dnt wanna vote because I love Smallville and as much as I disliked this episode, I have hope for next season. (but this finale was poor)..
I feel the same way. More Clark, and more Lois Lane. Less Chloe in Season 9. I hope that Allison doesn't have all 22 episodes. If Allison has 22 episodes or more than Lois Lane, I'm going to give up watching Smallville. I may not even watch season 9's Smallville.
And if Season 9 of Smallville doesn't bring on Perry White or Jimmy Olsen, I'm through with Smallville. :(
Jaderoyale
05-24-2009, 07:36 AM
And if Season 9 of Smallville doesn't bring on Perry White or Jimmy Olsen, I'm through with Smallville. :(
Our Jimmy Olsens gone.
I doubt they're going to bring in that 10 year old dopplegander child. Unless, we have a time jump :eek:
tibbit78
05-24-2009, 07:42 AM
Our Jimmy Olsens gone.
I doubt they're going to bring in that 10 year old dopplegander child. Unless, we have a time jump :eek:
Oh, I thought they were going to replace him with a 20 year old kid. I like your avatar, Jade.
Jaderoyale
05-24-2009, 07:44 AM
Oh, I thought they were going to replace him with a 20 year old kid. I like your avatar, Jade.
I'm pushing that idea to the back of my mind until its confirmed.
And thanks :)
NoSupeForYou
05-24-2009, 07:57 AM
When Bizzaro was around he ripped out people's guts and set a guy on fire. When Doomsday showed up in the finale he threw a woman through a window and made faces at a little girl. He mostly just pushed a few people down and threw a car. I'm still not sure what his excuse was for leaving the JL alive.
Doomsday was more intimidating in Bride, looked better, and was much more brutal. Maybe if they hadn't blown the whole budget on the Lana arc they would have had some money to give us a decent fight in the finale.
The funniest part about all this is that with all the deaths and rampaging in this episode there wasn't a single cop to be seen anywhere. No crime scene tape at the Watchtower, no one even asking Chloe how it was that a serial killer ended up at her new place to kill her ex-husband and I didn't see a cop where Doomy was.
Also, the Tess and Lois fight had no logic to it. You don't attack an employee on baseless accusations unless you want to lose a lot of money in court and likely end up in jail for assault. If she really believed that Lois stole her orb why would she go down there alone to deal with it? There was no logic to her actions, it was merely done to set up a cat fight and Lois disappearing. It is the kind of poor writing you see at wrestling matches.
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-24-2009, 08:45 AM
I'm not a spoiler watcher so it didn't hit me as hard a it did others.
I'm not in the hater category but more perplexed about the whole finale and where the characters are going...some to heaven (RIP fake Jimmy Olsen) others to hell, but than again we had the Lana angst :rolleyes: so hell seems fine...forgive me for my cruelty...lol
"Lois puts on the ring and disappears into the future. Is this a set up so that she return without memory of CK so she can meet CK for the first time at the Daily Planet, glasses and all?"
If they decide to set us up with Lois forgetting her past with Clark etc... TPTB will pretty much be hunted down by the majority of Smallville fans. It will definitely reak havoc amongst many of us. They better not even think of going in that direction IMO.
Davis Bloome the man, not the monster in a fit of Jealousy,Betrayal, Pure Human Rage kills Jimmy! Can I be more descriptive, he's a freaking sociopath. So I can make sense out of this.
Chloe...wow just her name swirls up emotions. Going from Watchtower official online to Harboring a serial Killer to save Clark. Talk about Jekyll and Hyde. Just bad writing here. I don't know whether to pity her or empathize with her being stuck in the middle of all the craziness.
Lois I just love her I wish they had more of her. I think Tess took to much screen time away from the Lovely Lois Lane. Frankly I'm getting bored of Tess and her blank expressions for everything that goes on, please grow up. I know how to arch my eyebrow too. :rolleyes: Less Tess would do much better, but we all know thats not going to happen with the whole candor, Zod Arc in season 9.
The whole JLA just seemed useless IMO in the episode...yes there were some emotional scenes between them during Jimmy's funeral and The Clark/Ollie dynamic was okay. But talk about comic relief, Oliver Queen attempting to kill Doomy with an arrow...lol:lol: Oh I still love ya Ollie Boy! ;)
Jimmy was great with all his scenes and I loved the scene with Lois and Jimbo bought back great memories. His last scene with Clark was well done. Arron Ashmore has done a great deal for the show and will be dearly missed whether he is fake Jimmy or real Jimmy in the minds of the fans.
Clark Kent the strong willed future Super...dude has put humanity on a Pedestal. Its the human side that made the wrong choices time after time...Jor -El was right.
Okay lets ponder this for a sec...wrong choice due to human emotions, oh yeah Lana, but thats about it. Everything else that Clark choose to do was because he had immense faith in the kindness of humanity. Now he feels utterly hopeless. He put all his trust in Davis the human, but in the end this human failed and showed the darkness of humanity. And the former Clark Kent has come to a realization that he was wrong about humankind.
Clark Kent is dead, does that mean Super--- is alive? Or will Clark Kent again be resurrected for another merry-go round ? I really don't know where TPTB or taking this. Clark's tone seemed more mature in the last scene plus he seemed to have a keen sense of what he was saying.
I hope something positive comes out of this very puzzling finale. So in the end I don't hate or love it.
geminis
05-24-2009, 09:58 AM
51 pages in and still no Cedric? Sniff, sniff. :(
Doomsday has certainly been a polarizing, mostly disappointing episode. I have to admit it has me worried for season 9. :(
Greygor
05-24-2009, 10:06 AM
The whole JLA just seemed useless IMO in the episode...yes there were some emotional scenes between them during Jimmy's funeral and The Clark/Ollie dynamic was okay. But talk about comic relief, Oliver Queen attempting to kill Doomy with an arrow...lol:lol: Oh I still love ya Ollie Boy! ;)
If only he'd had the Boxing Glove Arrow :)
geminis
05-24-2009, 10:10 AM
Here are some of the reminders why we should watch Smallville next season...
1. B/c she went to Smallville to look for him (Crusade)
2. B/c she had a hard time just looking at his face (Crusade)
3. B/c she has a soft spot for stray dogs and naked guys (Crusade)
4. B/c "give [her] a nerd with glasses anyday" (Crusade)
5. B/c she's not alone anymore (Crusade)
6. B/c he invited her to stay on the farm with him (Crusade)
7. B/c he only remember her and flying (Crusade)
8. B/c she thinks his mom's cool (Crusade)
9. B/c she calls him Smallville
10. B/c he was impressed by her kung fu fighting skills (Gone)
11. B/c he checked out her legs (Gone)
12. B/c they just shower together (Gone)
13. B/c she finishes his thoughts (Gone)
14. B/c they found Chloe together (Gone)
15. B/c "the best ones always start that way"
16. B/c he does check her out (Facade)
17. B/c they saved each other (Facade)
18. B/c she wanted to see him in a wet t-shirt (Facade)
19. B/c she ruffled his hair (Facade)
20. B/c he wanted her opinion on his letterman jacket (Devoted)
21. B/c she checked him out (Devoted)
22. B/c they make a good investigative team (Devoted)
23. B/c she'll visit (Devoted)
24. B/c they planned Chloe's party together (Spell)
25. B/c she can calm him down (when he was about to kill Alicia's killer) (Pariah)
26. B/c she makes him laugh
27. B/c they cover for each other (Recruit)
28. B/c he freaked out when he found out she was missing (Recruit)
29. B/c he saved her life (Recruit)
30. B/c he said that she could stay with him (Recruit)
31. B/c she named Shelby "Clarkie" after him (Krypto)
32. B/c even Lucy noticed the sparks between them (Lucy)
33. B/c he listens to her (Lucy)
34. B/c she opens up to him (Lucy)
35. B/c they tease each other (Lucy)
36. B/c they're secret friends(Lucy)
37. B/c he knows when to give her her space (Lucy)
38. B/c "now it all begins" (Lucy)
39. B/c they're written in the stars (Lucy)
40. B/c they "keep it quiet in public but mack on the downlow" (Spirit)
41. B/c going to the prom together wasn't in the realm of possibilities but they ended up going together anyways (Spirit)
42. B/c he visibly gulped and was impressed when he saw her in her prom dress (Spirit)
43. B/c "a little close to the boob don't ya think?" (Spirit)
44. B/c she tells it to him like it is (Blank)
45. B/c she knows how to deal with memory wiped Clark(Blank)
46. B/c she guesses that she can't call him Smallville anymore (Blank)
47. B/c he cradled her in his arms and tenderly looked at her when she was about to be broken (Forever)
48. B/c she dreams about a guy in a red cape (Commencement)
49. B/c he'll try not to miss her too much (Commencement)
50. B/c she knows that she's always welcome in his home (Commencement)
51. B/c even his parents love her (Commencement)
52. B/c he suggested a career in journalism for her (Commencement)
53. B/c with her luck she'd end up partnered with the most bumbling reporter on the masthead (Commencement)
54. B/c she tied his tie for him (Commencement)
55. B/c he "actually looks handsome for a change" (Commencement)
56. B/c when she sees him going up on the stage she'll be thinking one thing, "Dear God please don't let him trip." (Commencement)
57. B/c she slugs him in the arm
58. B/c he smiles more around her
59. B/c she whistled when he got his diploma (Commencement)
60. B/c they hugged and it was awesome! (Arrival)
61. B/c she went back to help out his parents (Arrival)
62. B/c he thanked her for helping his parents (Arrival)
63. B/c he wanted to be the one to save her (Aqau)
64. B/c if Lois didn't know better she'd say he was jealous (Aqua)
65. B/c "someday she'll meet someone even more special" (Aqua)
66. B/c Clark couldn't tear his eyes away from her when he saw her dance (Exposed)
67. B/c she gave him a lap dance (Exposed)
68. B/c "dontcha wish your girlfriend was hot like [Lois]?" (Exposed)
69. B/c "give me a twenty and meet me out back" (Exposed)
70. B/c he super jumped and brought down a helicopter to save her life (Exposed)
71. B/c she called him "007" (Exposed)
72. B/c "love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction" (Exposed)
73. B/c he was disappointed to see her leave (Exposed)
74. B/c he helped her move out (Exposed)
75. B/c they congratulated Chloe in unison (Exposed)
76. B/c she thanked him for being a good friend (Exposed)
77. B/c she tell everyone about his Elmer Fudd nightlight if he tells anyone about the lapdance (Exposed)
78. B/c "Aye, aye sailor" (Exposed)
79. B/c Lois understands his family (Fanatic)
80. B/c she became his dad's campaign manager (Fanatic)
81. B/c Lois has a thing for heroes (Fanatic)
82. B/c when Clark said he couldn't imagine loving someone else, who should drive up but Lois? (Lockdown)
83. B/c "turn that frown upside down, Skippy" (Lockdown)
84. B/c she'd "be lucky to end up with someone as honorable as Clark Kent someday" (Reckoning)
85. B/c when Clark turned back the clock he almost lost Lois (Reckoning)
86. B/c Clark immediately noticed when Lois wasn't there (Reckoning)
87. B/c she realized right away that something wasn't right with him (Hypnotic)
89. B/c when she found out what was wrong she immediately went to his farm to snap him out of it (Hypnotic)
90. B/c if it's necessary, she'll take him down (Hypnotic)
91. B/c he gave her a love tap (Hypnotic)
92. B/c his mom called Lois when she thought Clark needed help with Maddie (Fragile)
93. B/c he went to see her in the hospital when she was injured (Fragile)
94. B/c he brought her back to her apartment and told her to take it easy after she was hurt (Fragile)
95. B/c he got her a glass of water without her asking him for one (Fragile)
96. B/c Graham assumed Lois was Clark's girlfriend (Fade)
97. B/c when he saw her naked he was stunned and amazed (Fade)
98. B/c long after she closed the door he couldn't stop staring (Fade)
99. B/c they both take marathon showers (Fade)
100. B/c he feels the need to lob a grenade at every guy she dates (Fade)
101. B/c when she found out her was in trouble, she frantically tried to save him (Fade)
102. B/c she wants to meet a decent guy from a decent family (Fade)
103. B/c he's her Jonathon (Fade)
104. B/c "maybe you have to get through all the wrong men to recognize the right one" (Fade)
105. B/c she threw him a birthday party (Oracle)
106. B/c she made her world famous rum cake for him (Oracle)
107. B/c she bought him a journal to let out his feelings (Oracle)
108. B/c she gave him the tough love she knew he needed (Oracle)
109. B/c "Sometimes you have to tuck your feelings away until it's the right time. Like stuffing dollars into a piggy bank for a bike you can't quite afford." (Oracle)
110. B/c she's the Harley he's been saving up for (Oracle)
111. B/c "there are times when I think you don't know me at all...and others when I think you know me better than anyone." (Oracle)
112. B/c "well, that's what I'm here for, Smallville. One save at a time." (Oracle)
113. B/c they have the best deep and meaningful conversations (Oracle)
114. B/c he asked her how she was feeling (Zod)
115. B/c the fortress of solitude is her heaven (Zod)
116. B/c "I'm glad you're back" (Zod)
117. B/c he held her hand (Zod)
118. B/c Lana is his past, Lois is his future! (Crimson)
119. B/c he has abs of steel (Combat)
120. B/c he comfort hers and she comforts him (Siren and Arctic)
121. B/c they care about each others happiness
122. B/c he was there when she needed a shoulder to cry on (Siren)
123. B/c she doesn't want to settle for anyone else! (Siren)
124. Because they will always be there for eachother no matter what happens (Siren and Arctic)
125. B/c they make the best partners ever! (Apocalypse)
126. B/c they literally collide (Apocalypse)
127. B/c she thought he was "clumsy but cute" (Apocalypse)
128. B/c he swept her off her feet (Apocalypse)
129. She tried to sneek a peak (Apocalypse)
130. Because she helped him into the suit and glasses (Apocalypse)
131. B/c he thinks she's a good friend (Apocalypse)
132. B/c nothing says I love you like a punch on the shoulder. (Apocalypse)
133. Because she bought him a drink (or more hopefully) (Apocalypse)
134. B/c they're destined for each other in any reality (Apocalypse)
135. Because she knows he can do better then be just a "farm boy" (Arctic)
136. Because in his darkness, she was his light. (Arctic)
137. B/c she calls him Kent and he calls her Lane (Odyssey)
138. B/c he's going to be a little closer to home (Odyssey)
139. B/c he recognised her voice (Odyssey)
140. B/c team Lane and Kent kick butt like no other (Odyssey)
141. B/c we know that he actually does appreciate her feminine charms (Odyssey)
142. B/c she brings out his sense of humour (Odyssey)
143. B/c if he sticks with her, she'll protect him (Odyssey)
144. B/c he checked on her to see if she was okay (Odyssey)
145. B/c he wanted Chloe to watch over her (Odyssey)
146. B/c they're going to be neighbours (Odyssey)
147. B/c he'll see her bright and early Monday morning (Odyssey)
148. B/c the legendary Lane and Kent partnership is just beginning.
149. B/c they appreciate each others attempts at heroism (Odyssey)
150. B/c she gave him points for punctuality, but "what's with the wardrobe malfunction?" (Plastique)
151. B/c she got him dressed appropriately (Plastique)
152. B/c he got changed in a phone booth (Plastique)
153. B/c she wanted him to make a good impression on his first day at work (Plastique)
154. B/c he wanted her opinion on how he looked (Plastique)
155. B/c she visibly paused and gulped before she told him he looked good (Plastique)
156. B/c their scene paralleled Apocalypse (Plastique)
157. B/c he caught her when she fell (Plastique)
158. B/c their gazes lingered on each other (Plastique)
159. B/c he thinks she is the Goddess of Journalism
160. B/c she asked him if he was okay and what happened when he got back (Plastique)
161. B/c she took him under her wing and taught him the rules of journalism (Plastique)
162. B/c she wanted to know how his meeting with Tess went (Plastique)
163. B/c she thinks he has a charming smile (Plastique)
164. B/c he thinks she sounded like a jealous girlfriend (Plastique)
165. B/c when she can't get the info they need, he can (Plastique)
166. B/c he went to see Bette, since he knows she doesn't do well with kids (Plastique)
167. B/c he told her everything he knew about the story (Plastique)
168. B/c "You want to share a by-line with me?" (Plastique)
169. B/c she got him the obit (Plastique)
170. B/c they investigated the story together (Plastique)
171. B/c he looked slightly impressed by all the cards she had for breaking and entering (Plastique)
172. B/c he covered for her (Plastique)
173. B/c she allows him to think for himself (Plastique)
174. B/c he can recite her rules
175. B/c she got her first front page article while working with him (Plastique)
176. B/c she gave him encouraging advice (Plastique)
177. B/c she’s more proud that they uncovered the truth than she was with getting a front page story (Plastique)
178. B/c "Thanks for helping me break the story, Clark." (Plastique)
179. B/c she thinks he has a long career ahead of him at the Daily Planet (Plastique)
180. B/c now they're officially team Lane and Kent (Plastique)
181. B/c they're attached at the hip (Toxic)
182. B/c they see each other more than Chloe sees Jimmy (Toxic)
183. B/c she underlines his typos (Toxic)
184. B/c he offered her the silent support he knew she needed (Toxic)
185. B/c she stole his coffee (Toxic)
186. B/c he wanted to know where she was last night (Toxic)
187. B/c he knew giving up the story wasn't like her (Toxic)
188. B/c he knew she was burying her emotions in work (Toxic)
189. B/c they can talk to each other about their past realtionships (Toxic)
190. B/c he wanted to give her advice and in the end she gave him some too (Toxic)
191. B/c she needs him (Instinct)
192. B/c he took on some of her work load for her (Instinct)
193. B/c she can dish out the tough love (Instinct)
194. B/c she wants him to "look outside his wheelhouse" (Instinct)
195. B/c he needs to "try another scoop of the 31 flavours" (Instinct)
196. B/c she's the "little less sweet vanilla and a lot more wild cherry" that he needs to try (Instinct)
197. B/c she was flirting with him when she mentioned an activity that two people share with repetitive motion that builds to a climax (Instinct)
198. B/c he made her giggle (Instinct)
199. B/c he held her coffee for her (Instinct)
200. B/c he just learned to dog paddle so she's not going to throw him into the deep end without a floatie (Instinct)
201. B/c he's lucky she came along (Instinct)
202. B/c when she saw Clark with Maxima she couldn't believe what she was seeing (Instinct)
203. B/c she was able to break the hold Maxima had on Clark (Instinct)
204. B/c their eye contact alone in that scene was electrifying (Instinct)
205. B/c she chose to take the stairs (Instinct)
206. B/c he couldn't just let her go (Instinct)
207. B/c he ran after her and tried to explain (Instinct)
208. B/c she rained on his orgy and sent Maxima away (Instinct)
209. B/c she was angry with him for making out with Maxima (Instinct)
210. B/c he wanted her to calm down (Instinct)
211. B/c she "was perfectly calm" (a.k.a she was jealous) (Instinct)
212. B/c despite how much she protests she does care what he does with his love life (Instinct)
213. B/c after their argument he looked stunned (Instinct)
214. B/c she really does care who he "sucks face with" (Instinct)
215. B/c she didn't think that "slutty-anna" was his type (Instinct)
216. B/c Maxima couldn't kill Lois in front of Clark (Instinct)
217. B/c Maxima was threatened by Lois (Instinct)
218. B/c they have a deep connection (Instinct)
219. B/c he would never have been able to pull away from Maxima if he wasn't drawn by his attraction to Lois (Instinct)
220. B/c there's a bond that they don't know about yet (Instinct)
221. B/c he came back to stop Maxima from killing Lois (Instinct)
222. B/c he was concerned about what would have happened to Lois if he hadn't stopped Maxima (Instinct)
223. B/c he knew his destiny was on earth and that Maxima wasn't a part of it (Instinct)
224. B/c he thanked her for showing up when she did and for saving his life (Instinct)
225. B/c she looked nervous when she heard that Maxima said some weird things to Clark (Instinct)
226. B/c he realized that none of the women he's be interested in before were his soulmate (Instinct)
227. B/c she thinks he "can do a little bit better than a man-eating meteor freak" (Instinct)
228. B/c his soulmate has been right in front of him all this time (Instinct)
229. B/c she thinks that "when the right girl walks into his life he'll know" (Instinct)
230. B/c he wanted to know what Maxima said to her (Instinct)
231. B/c she couldn't tell him what Maxima told her (Instinct)
232. B/c he offered her her old room back (Intinct)
233. B/c she winked at him (Instinct)
234. B/c she didn't want to tempt fate (Instinct)
235. B/c For a guy who is invincible, Lois Lane has the power even now to knock him off his feet (Instinct)
236. B/c he came to check on her at the party (Committed)
237. B/c she ordered ‘a Shirley Temple for the lady’ (Committed)
238. B/c He thinks she should pace herself (Committed)
239. B/c "Are you sure your not just jealous your little cousin is beating you to the altar?" (Committed)
240. B/c Clark think she should show support. (Committed)
241. B/c she’s not going to get married until she meets her soulmate (Committed)
242. B/c you can’t always predict who you’re going to end up with (Committed)
243. Because he grabbed her off the chair (Committed)
244. B/c he saved her from completely humiliating herself (Committed)
245. Because when he mentioned meeting someone special he looked at her (Committed)
246. B/c she spent the night at his place (Committed)
247. B/c she woke up in his football jersey (Committed)
248. B/c he took care of her when she was drunk (Committed)
249. B/c she thought that maybe they had sex (Committed)
250. B/c it echoed Crimson (Committed)
251. B/c he was up for the Whitesnake sing-a-long (Committed)
252. B/c he held her hair (Committed)
253. B/c he’s her designated driver (Committed)
254. he drove her back to the Talon (Committed)
255. she wore his plaid shirt (Committed)
256. B/c he came to her rescue (Committed)
257. B/c he’s the sweetest boy she has ever known (Committed)
258. B/c they work together so effortlessly (Committed)
259. B/c he was concerned that she could have been kidnapped too (Committed)
260. B/c she’s one step ahead of him (Committed)
261. He saved her from being hit by a car (Committed)
262. B/c he knew what she was going to say before she said it (Committed)
263. B/c “Clark Kent, will you marry me?” (Committed)
264. B/c they held hands walking into the jewellery store (Committed)
265. B/c ‘A smile now and then won’t kill you’ (Committed)
266. B/c who’s the luckiest girl in the world? Lois is! (Committed)
267. B/c “what about this one, Pumpkin?” (Committed)
268. B/c “anything you want, muffin” (Committed)
269. B/c “don’t get stage fright, Poodle, you’re going to have to do this in front of a packed house sooner than you think” (Committed)
270. B/c “he has performance anxiety” (Committed)
271. B/c he shoved the ring on her finger (Committed)
272. B/c the ring was a perfect fit (Committed)
273. B/c “tell him, Cupcake!” (Committed)
274. B/c “Lois and I are- we’re getting married” (Committed)
275. They left Ollie speechless (Committed)
276. B/c they were friends for so long before one magical night (Committed)
277. B/c they couldn’t deny their feelings any more (Committed)
278. B/c “she has great taste” (Committed)
279. B/c he’s “a very lucky man” (Committed)
280. B/c she called him when she didn’t know what to do (Committed)
281. B/c he was freaking out when she was missing (Committed)
282. B/c he must really care to storm in here like this (Committed)
283. B/c he wanted the madman to let her go (Committed)
284. B/c she begged for his life (Committed)
285. B/c she couldn’t stand to see him get hurt (Committed)
286. B/c he wanted her to just tell the truth (Committed)
287. B/c she couldn’t deny that she loves him (Committed)
288. B/c she looked him in the eyes when she said that she loves him (Committed)
289. B/c he braced himself for the pain, then looked shocked when he realised that she was telling the truth (Committed)
290. B/c “are you all right?” (Committed)
291. B/c he wanted to get her out of there as soon as he could (Committed)
292. B/c they had a hard time looking at each other after her confession (Committed)
293. B/c she was avoiding him (Committed)
294. B/c he forced her to deal with him (Committed)
295. B/c she didn’t trust herself in an elevator alone with him (Committed)
296. B/c he gave her a way out (Committed)
297. B/c he was disappointed when she said she was lying (Committed)
298. B/c they make a great team (Committed)
299. B/c “who knows where we’d be if [he] had answered that question”? (Committed)
300. B/c he wondered where they’d be if he had answered that question too (Committed)
301. B/c it was the single most Clois packed episode ever!!!! (Committed)
302. B/c she complimented him and said he was "no hack"(Identity)
303. B/c she was nervous about Clark going to dinner with her and Jimmy (Identity)
304. B/c his first photographed save was with her (Identity)
305. B/c he doesn't mind being in her shadow (Identity)
306. B/c the UST in that zipper scene was palpable (Identity)
307. B/c she loved every minute of the zipper scene (Identity)
308. B/c he was obviously jealous and she was obviously trying to make him jealous (Identity)
309. B/c he zipped up her dress (Identity)
310. B/c the flashback was even better (Identity)
311. B/c he was staring at her bra (Identity)
312. B/c she makes him stutter (Identity)
313. B/c she makes him nervous (Identity)
314. B/c she put her hand on his chest (Identity)
315. B/c ‘sometimes when a guy likes a girl he asks her out’ hint, hint (Identity)
316. B/c their chemistry is so hot we're surprised it doesn't burn the bullpen down (Identity)
317. B/c she was so flirting with him (Identity)
318. B/c he kept checking out her butt (Identity)
319. B/c he went all Alpha male on her (Identity)
320. B/c he gets so protective of her (Identity)
321. B/c ‘behave your self (Identity)
322. B/c he cleared his throat so as to break up the moment between her and Sebastion (Identity)
323. B/c she didn’t allow them to shake hands. (Identity)
324. B/c she's destined to fall in love with a man who flies and likes to wear tights (Identity)
325. B/c she called Clark when she was in trouble (Identity)
326. B/c he dropped everything to come to her rescue (Identity)
327. B/c she wanted to protect him by not telling him her secret (Identity)
328. B/c he thanked her for looking out for him (Identity)
329. B/c she's a true believer in the red and blue superdude (Identity)
330. B/c it's her new mission in life to get the first worldwide exclusive interview with him (Identity)
331. B/c she wanted to move back in with him (Bloodline)
332. B/c them living and working together would be a carpooler's dream (Bloodline)
333. B/c they have Guitar Hero weekends (Bloodline)
334. B/c he pulled out the crystal and was looking at it right in front of her (Bloodline)
335. B/c he told her to run but she couldn’t leave him (Bloodline)
336. B/c they went to the Phantom Zone together (Bloodline)
337. B/c he ran to her as soon as he saw her (Bloodline)
338. B/c he cupped her cheek in his hand (Bloodline)
339. B/c when she was getting tired he told her, "You're doing great" (Bloodline)
340. B/c he was worried about her when she fell (Bloodline)
341. B/c "All we have to do is keep an eye out for each other ok? We’ll be fine" (Bloodline)
342. B/c he calmed her down (Bloodline)
343. B/c "No one is going to mess with Lois and Clark" (Bloodline)
344. B/c they talked about each other as a unit (Bloodline)
345. B/c he tenderly wiped the blood off of her face (Bloodline)
346. B/c he wanted to send her back no matter what the cost was (Bloodline)
347. B/c he said he'd guard the gate, but Lois was going home (Bloodline)
348. B/c she wanted to stick with him and his right hook (Bloodline)
349. B/c he told her he'd be right behind her and she said he'd better be (Bloodline)
350. B/c when she heard that Clark was in trouble she wanted to go back for him (Bloodline)
351. B/c she wanted to wait for Clark (Bloodline)
352. B/c her first thought after being released from the Phantom Zone was of Clark (Bloodline)
353. B/c he immediately wanted to know if Lois was okay after he got out of the PZ (Bloodline)
354. B/c he can handle Lois (Bloodline)
355. B/c he desperately tried to reach out to Lois while she was possessed (Bloodline)
356. B/c Faora realized that Clark has feelings for Lois (Bloodline)
357. B/c he never said Faora's name once, while she possessed Lois (Bloodline)
358. B/c he wouldn't fight Faora b/c all he could see was Lois (Bloodline)
359. B/c she collapsed on top of him and he hoped she was okay (Bloodline)
360. B/c Clois spend all their time together and everyone knows it (Bloodline)
361. B/c the best part of Lois living on the farm was that Clark could keep on eye on her (Bloodline)
362. B/c he was disappointed that she decided to move out (Bloodline)
363. B/c he's her "knight in shining armor" (Bloodline)
364. B/c he thought that Lois got in trouble b/c she didn't know his secret (Bloodline)
365. B/c Kara thinks that Clark should tell Lois his secret. She said, "Lois is strong. She can handle it. You wouldn't have let her get so close if you didn't think so, too." (Bloodline)
366. B/c Clark agreed with Kara (Bloodline)
367. B/c they recorded a video message for Chloe together (Bride)
368. B/c Clark agreed with Lois before he even knew what she was going to say (Bride)
369. B/c Jimmy wanted to introduce Lois to his friend Clark Kent (Bride)
370. B/c Jimmy thinks Clark annoying Lois is flirtation 101 (Bride)
371. B/c Jimmy’s seen the way they look at each other (Bride)
372. B/c Lois’ hopes rose after talking with Jimmy (Bride)
373. B/c Lois needs to jump Clark’s lilypad and plant one on him (Bride)
374. B/c “Lois and Clark would be great together” (Bride)
375. B/c Clark is her “Mr. Right” (Bride)
376. B/c she lovingly touched his suit and then decked the camera guy for catching it on camera (Bride)
377. B/c he loves to talk about her when she isn’t around (Bride)
378. B/c someday her super stud will come along (Bride)
379. B/c he impressed her with his sweet gesture (Bride)
380. B/c the staircase scene sent us into a series of fangasms (Bride)
381. B/c they couldn’t take their eyes off of each other (Bride)
382. B/c Lois helped him with his cufflinks (Bride)
383. B/c he wasn’t paying attention to her cufflinks lesson, he was drinking in the sight of her instead (Bride)
384. B/c “you just need to stick this part up and then it slides right in” (Bride)
385. B/c she renders him speechless (Bride)
386. B/c when she thought he was talking to her, her face lit up with hope (Bride)
387. B/c he finally realized that he has a shot with her (Bride)
388. B/c she’s completely in love with him (Bride)
389. B/c he was watching her when they were standing by themselves (Bride)
390. B/c he grabbed her hand (Bride)
391. B/c he titled his head and pulled her into a dance (Bride)
392. B/c there was so much UST in that dance scene (Bride)
393. B/c that dance and almost kiss was the most romantic Clois scene we’ve had so far (Bride)
394. B/c when they were bumped into Clark steadied Lois (Bride)
395. B/c he reached down and held her hand (Bride)
396. B/c hellooo? Eye sex much?! (Bride)
397. B/c the way he looks at her makes us swoon (Bride)
398. B/c they can have an entire conversation without saying a word (Bride)
399. B/c when she put her hand on his heart he took a step forward (Bride)
400. B/c they both leaned in for the kiss (Bride)
401. B/c she’s been having feelings for him and she doesn’t know they mean (Bride)
402. B/c her feelings for him just snuck up on her (Bride)
403. B/c there are moments when you can’t deny it (Bride)
404. B/c she thought that someone needed her (Bride)
405. B/c Ollie is sure that he needs her b/c he knows Clark (Bride)
406. B/c Clark asked her how she was holding up at the hospital (Bride)
407. B/c Clark didn’t want her to leave (Bride)
408. B/c he pulled her into a hug when she broke down (Bride)
408. B/c “I promise, we’re going to get Chloe back” (Bride)
409. B/c he’s been looking for inspiration and he’s found it in her heart (Bride)
410. B/c that slow-mo walk away and the look back clearly established Lois and Clark as the couple to root for (Bride)
411. B/c “Don’t take your love away from me” (Bride)
412. B/c he hated watching her walk out of his life and she hated having to leave him (Bride)
413. Because they belong together.. end of freaking story.
I love this list. This is what has me on pins and needles for the fall. That, and the end of the Clark Kent guilt trips. With Clark declaring himself dead, *exasperated sigh* does this mean we could have some Kal?... :p
tibbit78
05-24-2009, 10:52 AM
I'm not a spoiler watcher so it didn't hit me as hard a it did others.
I'm not in the hater category but more perplexed about the whole finale and where the characters are going...some to heaven (RIP fake Jimmy Olsen) others to hell, but than again we had the Lana angst :rolleyes: so hell seems fine...forgive me for my cruelty...lol
"Lois puts on the ring and disappears into the future. Is this a set up so that she return without memory of CK so she can meet CK for the first time at the Daily Planet, glasses and all?"
If they decide to set us up with Lois forgetting her past with Clark etc... TPTB will pretty much be hunted down by the majority of Smallville fans. It will definitely reak havoc amongst many of us. They better not even think of going in that direction IMO.
Davis Bloome the man, not the monster in a fit of Jealousy,Betrayal, Pure Human Rage kills Jimmy! Can I be more descriptive, he's a freaking sociopath. So I can make sense out of this.
Chloe...wow just her name swirls up emotions. Going from Watchtower official online to Harboring a serial Killer to save Clark. Talk about Jekyll and Hyde. Just bad writing here. I don't know whether to pity her or empathize with her being stuck in the middle of all the craziness.
Lois I just love her I wish they had more of her. I think Tess took to much screen time away from the Lovely Lois Lane. Frankly I'm getting bored of Tess and her blank expressions for everything that goes on, please grow up. I know how to arch my eyebrow too. :rolleyes: Less Tess would do much better, but we all know thats not going to happen with the whole candor, Zod Arc in season 9.
The whole JLA just seemed useless IMO in the episode...yes there were some emotional scenes between them during Jimmy's funeral and The Clark/Ollie dynamic was okay. But talk about comic relief, Oliver Queen attempting to kill Doomy with an arrow...lol:lol: Oh I still love ya Ollie Boy! ;)
Jimmy was great with all his scenes and I loved the scene with Lois and Jimbo bought back great memories. His last scene with Clark was well done. Arron Ashmore has done a great deal for the show and will be dearly missed whether he is fake Jimmy or real Jimmy in the minds of the fans.
Clark Kent the strong willed future Super...dude has put humanity on a Pedestal. Its the human side that made the wrong choices time after time...Jor -El was right.
Okay lets ponder this for a sec...wrong choice due to human emotions, oh yeah Lana, but thats about it. Everything else that Clark choose to do was because he had immense faith in the kindness of humanity. Now he feels utterly hopeless. He put all his trust in Davis the human, but in the end this human failed and showed the darkness of humanity. And the former Clark Kent has come to a realization that he was wrong about humankind.
Clark Kent is dead, does that mean Super--- is alive? Or will Clark Kent again be resurrected for another merry-go round ? I really don't know where TPTB or taking this. Clark's tone seemed more mature in the last scene plus he seemed to have a keen sense of what he was saying.
I hope something positive comes out of this very puzzling finale. So in the end I don't hate or love it.
I hope that they'll have less Chloe & more Lois next season. I hope Tess leaves the show so that she can be replaced by Perry White. Wouldn't that be nice?
:D
I_AM_LEX_LUTHOR
05-24-2009, 11:28 AM
I feel the same way. More Clark, and more Lois Lane. Less Chloe in Season 9. I hope that Allison doesn't have all 22 episodes. If Allison has 22 episodes or more than Lois Lane, I'm going to give up watching Smallville. I may not even watch season 9's Smallville.
And if Season 9 of Smallville doesn't bring on Perry White or Jimmy Olsen, I'm through with Smallville. :(
Yeah! I dnt think Chloe should be given 20 plus episodes in S9 but i think she will get as many as she demands:mad:
:(
tibbit78
05-24-2009, 02:45 PM
No Cedric, yet? Has anyone heard from Cedric, yet? I'm still waiting patiently for his Doomsday review!
frankville
05-24-2009, 03:36 PM
As usual I really enjoyed the actors. They are truly talented and they do such an excellent job in displaying real and palpable lives on the screen. I enjoyed the episode except for all the anticipation that I had experienced leading up to the inevitable Doomsday fight. The fight was two punches none of which were thrown by Clark and then a super jump into an explosion. I was left with the sense that the writers were at odds with each other on how to end the season.
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-24-2009, 08:20 PM
If only he'd had the Boxing Glove Arrow :)
Tell me about it...ha :lol: Yeah maybe they should call the show "Two and Half Green Men"
like the sitcom. I think it fits the bill you got Clark the Green kryptonian Alien (not literally) and Ollie in a green leather suit. What a combo! :lol:
----- Added 7 Minutes later -----
No Cedric, yet? Has anyone heard from Cedric, yet? I'm still waiting patiently for his Doomsday review!
I hear something....wait its muffled still some static...and wait an echo of some sort, like a very long gasp... coming from a top the majestic Himalayan mountains. Yes I believe its Cedric in solitude ...poor thing is still in the digestion phase.
Okay...In all seriousness I haven't heard from him...hope he is coming back, still waiting patiently as do you :)
NoSupeForYou
05-24-2009, 08:35 PM
It's probably taking him so long because he has to edit out all the bad words he originally put in.
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-24-2009, 08:40 PM
I hope that they'll have less Chloe & more Lois next season. I hope Tess leaves the show so that she can be replaced by Perry White. Wouldn't that be nice?
:D
Yeah Tess and her reign of Terror is just boring me now. More Tess is just a Mess...I mean Cassidy Freeman is a good actress, but she doesn't have the power of Michael Rosenbaum. Oh how I miss MR...*sigh*
I understand this is her first season, but its a hit or miss when being a evil character and she has had more misses than hits. Sam Witwer was also new to the show but his acting hits the bulls eye even when the script sucks.
I have mixed feelings about her leaving the show, but I do want her out of the DP and I think Perry White should come on no doubt!;)
alejandrita439
05-24-2009, 09:03 PM
aaa i hope Cedric posts his review soon :)
cant wait to read it
geminis
05-25-2009, 11:58 AM
Cedric is still comatose it would appear. That, or he's mourning the losses suffered up to this Memorial Day.
tibbit78
05-25-2009, 12:02 PM
51 pages in and still no Cedric? Sniff, sniff. :(
Doomsday has certainly been a polarizing, mostly disappointing episode. I have to admit it has me worried for season 9. :(
I fear for Season 9, too. :(
Fallen One
05-25-2009, 12:08 PM
Joan Rivers: Hello, hello! I'm Joan Rivers here for E Entertainment Television. My daughter Melissa and I are here at the red carpet for the premiere of Smallville's "Doomsday." The theatre was packed with literally ten people and they were all excited. For once, Melissa and I are the most famous people in attendance at an event. Can you believe it? Lets see if we can grab some of the guests as they depart from the theatre.
Crowd boos as Peterson and Souders make their way over with perpetual smiles on their faces. Someone throws a empty coke bottle at their heads.
Joan: Oh, oh! Looks like we have someone approaching. Oh its the producers themselves! Brian Peterson and Kelly Souders! Welcome guys! Initial thoughts on the finale?
Souders: (excited) Incredible!
Peterson: Masterpiece. We really out-did ourselves this time. (looking at the camera) Oohh I hope a oscar isn't in our future. I mean woah! Ha ha.
Jonn Jonnz wearing a paper bag over his head and a fedora walks quickly through the crowd. He spots a camera and runs.
Peterson: (noticing Jonnz running from the back entrance) Hey John! Over here!
Joan: Why is he running?
Souders: Maybe he didn't see us.
Joan: But he pointed right over here.
Peterson: Maybe the finale tugged at his heart strings too much. There wasn't a dry eye in the building, Joan. I cried on the way here while eating a super pretzel in the limo.
Joan: I wouldn't doubt it for a second. Thanks for stopping by, guys. I see we have the stars of the show joining us now, so I'll ask you to step aside. Melissa, down to you.
(Camera switches to another section of the carpet. Melissa Rivers is with Tess)
Melissa Rivers: Thanks, Mom. I'm joined by LuthorCorp CEO Tess Mercer. Hi Tess, initial reactions to seeing it on the big screen?
Tess smiles, puts a napkin in her mouth, and walks away without warning.
Melissa: Holy crap, mom. We can file this under the "Too Much Information" Files. Over to you.
Joan: Thanks Melissa. Tess is such a kidder! Joining us now is the billionaire playboy Oliver Queen. Ollie that was some finale for you and your League!
Oliver: (darting his eyes) Is this a taped broadcast?
Joan: No silly! We're on live with millions of fans watching! Now what are you thoughts. You must have been thrilled with the material you got to work with!
Oliver: Well Joan, I certainly wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it.
Joan: Hold up, you didn't say it.
Oliver: To be honest Joan, I'd rather talk about my upcoming summer movie. Its titled: "One Night in an Arrow." Its about one man's journey to stop shooting people. It co-stars Dick Cheney and the Vienna Boys choir.
Joan: (sarcastically) Well that was certainly interesting. Folks, we have to step away for a word from our spons--
Oliver: (off camera) Whats wrong with your face?
Joan: WHAT!?
Oliver: Your face. Whats wrong with your face.
Long stare.
Joan: We'll be right back.
{Commercial Break...
Clark: You may have heard of Variety, that pill guaranteed to increase that certain part of a man's wardrobe? Now I know what you're thinking. Does it really work? (chuckles) Well.. it definitely does.
Lois: (grinning) Thats because the key ingredient to Variety has been scientifically proven to increase the size to that certain part of a male's wardrobe. Its not a gimmick, its real science.
Clark: Now fabric I didn't care too much about, but color? Now that grabbed my attention.
Lois: I have to admit, when he first told me about Variety and what it did (getting excited) I thought 'Mmmm this could be funnnn!' Maybe we'll get back some of that old spark we had ya know? And maybe people won't point and laugh at us so much when he stops wearing the red jacket to funerals.
Oliver: I've personally had some of my top scientists research the formula in Variety and found it to be truly remarkable. I mean its in a bottle! Who thinks of that!? Anyways we're so sure it'll work we're going to give you a week's supply absolutely free. All you have to pay is shipping which will go directly to our show's budget.
Clark: Now, what are you waiting for? Pick up the phone and dial the number. You have nothing to lose, but a lot to gain. Wait, what did the last part mean?
/Commercial Break}
Joan Rivers: Welcome back gang. I'm now standing by with Chloe and the man for which the episode is titled -Doomsday himself. How are you guys doing this evening? You looked fabulous!
Chloe: Thanks Joan and Chloe knows. Personally, Chloe felt more of herself could have been used. Five scenes just aint what it used to be. Also the help could have been more useful. Chloe can't carry the show all the time.
Joan: Oh you're such a kidder! Anyway, Doomsday how did ya feel about the big throw-down with Clark?
Doomsday: (stares ahead for three minutes before crying uncontrollably)
Joan: Well, uh.. the producers said there wasn't a dry eye in the house. I guess this is what they meant.. Ooh! Melissa I hear the crowd murmuring. Someone almost as important as Chloe must be heading your way.
Jimmy exits the theatre. He has a blank expression on his face and can't stop shaking his head.
Melissa: There sure is mom! Jimmy! Ladies and Gentlemen here's the man of the hour, Mr. Jimmy Olsen.
Jimmy looks over to Kelly Souders who makes a slow throat cutting gesture
Jimmy: (to Melissa) I think you mean Henry.
Melissa: Ha ha, exactly Jimmy. Now. Our fans desperately want to know how you felt about your death. That was quite a dramatic moment! You saved Chloe who will now go on to defeat poverty with her love. You must be thrilled!
Jimmy: (glancing from Souders to Melissa) I honestly can't tell you how that makes me feel, Melissa.
Souders: (matter of factly) And your innocent family must be thrilled too, Henry.
Jimmy: Yes, yes they are. Everyone is thrilled.
Melissa: Finally! Someone happy with the episode. Well, we'll let you get out of here and celebrate! Congratulations on dying for Chloe and much success in the future! Back over to you mom. I understand you're standing there with the mega stars.
As Jimmy exits, the camera pans to Clark and Lois, almost emotionless.
Joan: Thanks darling! Its my pleasure to be joined by our final guests of the evening - Clark Kent and Lois Lane! I tell you, guys, after seeing how long its taking you two to get together, I don't feel so old! Ah ha ha! I'm kidding! Oh grow up! Can we talk?
Lois: Sure Jim, but who are you going to talk to? Clark is dead and Lois vanished.
Only Peterson starts laughing.
Joan: I'm Joan. And I don't get it. The both of you are standing right in front of me.
Lois: Nevermind. It was a bad finale joke.
Joan: Clark, I must say, you look dressed up tonight. You're well known in most circles for your, uh, interesting taste in fashion. In fact, fashion critic Mr. Blackwell has gone on record and said he would kill you if he had the chance. I'm sure after such a controversial episode that you have many thoughts running through your mind. Our fans want you what are your thoughts on the season finale?
Clark: Absolutely Joan. I have a written a message that I'd like to read now if thats OK. (clearing throat) I do not like green eggs and ham. I do not like them - Sam I am --
Joan: (cutting him off) You have got to be kidding me.
The crowd roars in the background.
Joan: Oh my God. It…it can't be. What the hell?!
Oliver dressed in his Green Arrow gear has climbed a SUV to the roars of the crowd
Melissa: (screaming) Ow! Mom he's shooting at me!
Oliver: (dramatically yelling) You wanted the arrows, baby! You ... needed the arrows, baby!
.
Joan: (panicking) Folks this is Joan Rivers. On behalf of myself and Melissa for E Entertainment signing off. See you all next season!
_______________________________
Sigh. If Smallville got the red carpet treatment for this episode it would be even worse. Well, another year has passed. We've been through a lot together. Clark started working at the Planet with Lois, poor Brianiac got infected by Chloe, Lana heroically got a wig, and then Doomsday became a pet. And now, here it is. The last Smallville episode for 4 months. And what a episode it was. I use to complain that the ATMs at 7-Elevens were bad but after this episode I vow never to say another word about them again. So one more time, lets do this. You down, I said are you down? I'm down, the ratings are down. Lets go. Lets get it on. God help me..
Previously on Smallville!
Three kids from the future came back wearing 21st century pleather, Watchtower is online - and it has a virus, Tess became Clark's enemy, Jimmy married the wrong beast, the second half took a turn for the boring, Oliver blew up pirate Lex, Clark got his life on track, Rokk warned Clark about a 1 minute fight, Tess lost her mind and did it again because it felt good.
Doomsday
We open on the skyline of Metropolis as a blue streak flies through the CGI buildings. How I wish this was a meteor stuffed with nuclear warheads, but it turns out to be Rokk who Clark meets on the roof of the Daily Planet. Cosmic Rokk looks grim as he hopes he isn't too late to prevent the future from being erased. That doesn't compute for Clark since the threat of Brainiac was taken care of but the problem isn't Brainiac, its that Superman has been erased from history because of Chloe's existence and brain-dead actions. Instead of saying "Oh, well.. you get the chainsaw and I'll bring the beer" Clark responds with an annoying declaration that he wouldn't take back saving Chloe.
Rokk gives him another Legion ring and tells him to send Doomsday to the future where the Legion are prepared to battle him, but that offer is turned down by Clark who believes he can save the timeline. Rokk gets annoyed and makes clear that there's nothing on Earth that could prevent his death, but Clark looks at him and specs that maybe his destiny is to do this on his own terms. He asks how long does he have before it happens, and Rokk says that the next day will be Clark's last. If they were on another network, you bet.
Scene grade: B-. My only regret is that my cable box didn't explode right here so that I could come on and say the finale was pretty good. It says a lot that the Legion were willing to give their lives just so Clark wouldn't die, but you have to think that Rokk wanted to slap Clark with frozen Cauliflower as he watched him decide to ignore everything he was told. Will Clark's proactiveness backfire? If you don't know the answer, go stand in the corner.
Opening Credits. The lyrics to these credits and this particular episode should get married, have kids, and get a 401K plan.
Edge City. Chloe and Davis lay on the hood of Davis' car, talking about constellations after eating fast food. Chloe questions a particular observation and Davis explains the Greek tale of Demeter's daughter Persephone who was taken by Hades to the underworld and when given a chance at freedom, chose to stay in hell to be with the kidnapper she loved. I dunno man, that kinda sounds like she's looking for a commitment. Davis turns to Chloe and asks if they really are going to get away with everything and start a life together. She tells him that they will unless the cops catch them first as she and Davis exchange slightly worried looks.
Scene grade: D-. Just what was this? Firstly, Taco Bell isn't even open that late. Secondly, just what kind of psycho sits and talks about a lady deciding to trap herself in hell for eternity? A useless scene really. And shut up, Chloe.
Luthor Mansion. Tess asks if her goons have a trace on tweedle dee and tweedle doom. Roger that Tess, but the guard nervously explains that they have one minor problem - a hole the size of Delta Burke is now in her metal door. Tess is beside herself as the guard explains that the security system went down only for a few seconds and that the explosion happened from inside the safe room. She barks at him about the 'lives at stake' and commands them to find the orb immediately. And this is where I would get killed if I worked for Tess. Just how do you suppose they do that, Tess? Does Radioshack sell orb detectors?
Scene grade: C. OK scene, but short. I guess that orb had to be mentioned at some point, and I do get why Tess would assume someone took the thing. But still, she's is out of her mind if she thinks a grown man is going to go around searching in dog houses for a freakin orb with people watching them and pointing. TMZ would be all over that.
Oh my God! Oh my God! Lois! How many times do I have to tell you?! Don't wash the flannel or the jacket!
But Clark, they smelled.
Damnit! Now I have to break them in again. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm gonna need a marker, a protractor, and three bags of Cheetohs. Go get them now.
Ok.. but why do you need Cheetohs??
Just go get them!!!
Daily Planet. A depressed Clark stares at the Legion ring before placing it into his desk drawer. He goes back to typing out a goodbye letter addressed to the citizens of Metropolis. As he finishes, Lois barks at him for not doing enough to find Chloe. Clark calmly assures her that is and they do the whole "no I love Chloe more" crap that makes me want to run over compact cars. Noticing the look on Clark's face, Lois calms a bit and seems concerned but Clark closes the letter before she reads it. Annoyed, she walks over to get some coffee and gets a phone call from Clark as the Blur.
He tells her he's been searching for Chloe and keeping tabs on Lois. She rambles that she didn't know how to contact him, finally thanking him for his help. Clark asks for a favor and speeds in to give her his letter, asking that she publish it for him. Lois looks around to see if he's anywhere in the basement, then reads the letter. He asks again will she publish it if something happens to him and Lois, having read a portion of it, seems worried about whats going on. Clark tells her that even he can't escape his destiny, that he's not as invulnerable as they thought.
Seeing that this may be the end, she wants to meet him in person to see his face. Clark's reluctant but she insists that he can trust her. She suggests a certain phone both and asks that they meet the next night at midnight. Clark doesn't give a yes or no, he just leaves it open as she says she hopes he'll be there. Then she thanks him again to end the scene.
Scene grade: B-. Above average scene. Usually scenes between my two favorite characters are a guaranteed A for me but I'm conflicted with this scene. I didn't like the way Lois and Clark interacted with each other at a time when they needed each other the most. I liked the RBB/Lois talk but wasn't exactly wowed by it. I'm OK with this being a fascination or a crush, but the difference in her tone made it seem like she feels more connected to the Blur than with Clark. This is the first episode this season written by PS that Lois was in and I see now that it was a good thing because they suck at writing romance.
Still to come: Whats the best way to please you as a fan? Now laugh at that and imagine the complete opposite.
Commercial Break. The upcoming Transformers Movie has me so bugged out that I'm spending my nights running through parking lots and beating cars with a bat. Who knows which ones are ready to spring to life and kill me. I see commercials. I know the risks.
Kent Farm. A still stoic Clark stares out the window as Dinah and a well-fed Bart arrive for a meeting. Bart is asked for certain schematics he was suppose to steal and he produces them so that Clark can lay everything out for them. The target - a LuthorCorp owned geothermal facility. The plan - lead Doomsday to the facility using a trail of Chloe-shaped cookies, then bury him under the Earth and blow the place. Bart seems to like it and Dinah thinks its risky but is on board. When asked if the threat will be taken care of once and for all, Clark gives Bart a box of Black-K and says that the human part of Davis is worth saving and will be split.
A voice interrupts the love fest and asks what if that doesn't work. Its Oliver and he questions if Clark's decision would strip Dooms of his humanity and make him unstoppable. Fair concern I think. Clark tenses up and tells him its the only way but Ollie has another plan. He suggests that they take off their shirts and kill Davis before he dooms out ..or kill Davis before he dooms out and remove their shirt in celebration. Whichever way is most convenient. He tells Clark to stop being naive and admit that there is a darker side of humanity. Clark stares him down and says he's looking at that darker side. Oh snap. Oliver snaps back that not everyone's worth saving and that Davis needs to be stopped. Clark questions if Oliver means murder.
Bart nervously tries to get them to calm down but Dinah wants to know exactly what Clark's last comment meant. Oliver signals to Clark not to answer, but its doesn't work. Without blinking, Clark reveals to them all that Ollie killed Lex. Cold blooded! Oliver lowers his voice in anger and tells him he just made a big mistake. Clark declares that he isn't "one of them" anymore, and Oliver turns to walk away.
Scene grade: C+. It was good to see Bart back and, considering the PZ option is off the table, I liked the plan Clark came up with to get rid of Doomsday. I've already mentioned in previous reviews that I like scenes that amp up the Ollie/Clark tension because I like seeing stubborn heroes find a way to achieve the same goals, but there's a limit to that. What I don't like seeing is them being written to be enemies. The problem with this scene is the same I voiced last week concerning Clark and Oliver. If Clark found out Chloe murdered Sebastian would he expose her in front of all her.. well, 1 or 2 friends? No, I don't think he would have. I also felt it was very presumptuous of him to believe that Dinah and Bart would just forsake Oliver who they are closer to and have followed for years, and start following his lead when he isn't even a JL member.
You know, all you aliens are starting to look alike.
Mr. Peterson thats extremely offensive.
Why? Because you don't think so?
No sir. Because I'm Jimmy Olsen.
Daily Planet. Jimmy sneaks into Tess' office, bluetooth in ear. He's told by Oliver to report anything he finds, but the first thing he finds is Lois under Tess' desk. Before he gets a devilish grin on his face, she ends all notion of romance and punches him in the junk. Is this woman awesome or what? After Jimbo gets the feeling back in his arms, Lois explains that she snuck into Tess' office to find out if she knew where Mary Poppins and Satan were located, but couldn't crack the encryption. Never fear, bowling shirt man is here! A magical flash drive later and Jimmy is in. He unlocks a few files that lead to a satalite image with two red dots. Could be two can openers at the bottom of the ocean for all we know, but Jimmy immediately reasons its the insane duo.
He quickly leaves to tell Oliver while Lois stays behind to do a little internet browsing of the PG-13 variety. She opens a video feed that shows Regan getting smacked in the face with a purse or the wing of giant penguin. He groggily tells Tess that whatever she's up to is no use since Lex tried and failed in getting anything out of the orb. Straight from psychoville, Tess lays it all out for Lois; admitting that the orb is alien, that she hears voices, and that a life inside of it can't come forth until the Traveler kills the beast. Regan tells Tess that what she's unleashing could destroy the world. In possible related news, this episode damn near destroyed this show.
Scene grade: B-. I really liked the Lois/Jimmy portion of this scene and everytime I watch it I get a lump in my throat because thats the last scene they'll have together. They played off each other so well. I should also mention that this marks the first time that Lois has officially had her suspicions verified about aliens existing, but I would only expect that to be acknowledged by actual good writers.
Downstairs, Clark receives audio from Canary saying she found Tweety bird and Sylvester and uploads the image for him. Clark focuses his super-hearing on the audio and hears the beast and Davis cry for naught as the JL run them over with a bus. He speeds off to Edge City. Once there, he finds Davis' car totaled with signs of a struggle. He turns to see a nervous Dinah and Bart who apologize to him in advance. Before he makes sense of it, a green-K dart nails him in the back and he turns to see the Green Arrow. Clark shrieks to the ground in pain as they walk over to him.
"Don't worry Clark, it won't kill you. It'll just get your ego out of the way long enough for us to do what needs to be done." - A Justice Leaguer to Clark Kent, 7:28 PM.
Scene grade: F+. How did Dinah and Ollie get to Edge City before Clark? Why would they incapacitate him with a lame excuse of "protecting" him when he is the only one who can get someone as powerful as Doomsday to the geothermal facility? How do they suppose they'll kill Davis when he's indestructible? When did Oliver get to them and changed their minds? What kind of League is this? Why am I caring so much? Let us proceed.
Still to come: Chloe gets crucified for Jesus' sins.
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Hey Tess. It’s me, another one of your head voices. Listen. You should pay Lois more. She deserves it…
Cut it out, Lois.
Oh. I, uh, thought you were sleeping. My bad.
Didn't you see me eating pizza!?
DON'T JUDGE ME!!
Daily Planet. Lois walks back to her desk, but Tess has been waiting for her. They snark at each other before Tess hints that she knows Lois was snooping around in her office. Lois is pretty fed up with all and tells her that she'll do whatever it takes to find Cousin It and if she wants to fire her then do it. An agitated Tess says this has nothing to do with Chloe. Wow, is it my birthday?? She demands Lois tell her where's the orb and Lois looks at her like the nutjob she is and cracks a joke at her paranoia. For that, she gets her car keys spin-kicked out of her hand.
This is awfully familiar, only I had a PS2 controller in my hand at the time.
Tess takes an aggressive stance and claims she didn't want things to get physical. Lois snaps back that she only wanted to take over the world with alien technology and Tess defends her delusions but enough talk! Lois shoves her out of the way and Tess grabs her arm, dunks a punch and swings them both to the desk where they climb on top each other. I know what you're thinking, and hush! This was one of three things I actually enjoyed about this finale! Now let me proceed.
Lois elbows Tess and spins to her back to push off, but Tess sends a shot to her lower back and puts her in a choke hold that gets reversed. Now on top, Lois finds herself in a headscissor and spins her off the table. NOW we're talkin! They both get to their feet at the same time but Lois nails her with a serious backhand that knocks her out cold. Dayum! That was so badass that took Lois to the ground with her. As Tess lands, she knocks over the Legion ring that Clark left in his desk. Lois picks it up and it slides just barely over the tip of her finger. She thinks for a moment, then disappears to some point in history.
Scene grade: B. Nice catfight, though I wished it were longer and contained oil, white shirts, with soft rock booming in the background. I didn't understand what was the rush. Wanna know something embarassing? First time I saw this I honestly thought that it was cut to give more time to the lengthy epic showdown between Clark and Doomsday. Ahhh ha ha ha. Isn't that crazy? ha ha. {Starts to cry, sobs, sniffles}. I hate life.
Hey, is that your kid?
Yes. Mr. Queen. I brought him to work with me backstage at Smallville so he could meet some of his favorite…
Sell him to me. Nine Million.
What? You want to buy my…
Take it or leave. Two seconds. Clock starts now.
Goodbye, Timmy. Daddy loves you. Have fun with Oliver Queen!
Geothermal facility. Chloe wakes up from being tranq'd and spots Clark's bookbag with a meteor rock inside. The best part about this scene is that when Canary sees Chloe wake up she rolls her eyes and walks away. Way to go, Dinah! Anyway Chloe asks whats going on before accusing them all of wanting to kill her Doomy. Dinah stops her whining and explains why they don't think Clark's plan of using black-K is the best solution, with Ollie and Bart adding that Davis cannot control Doomsday. Chloe insists that she can control him and begs them not to kill him.
Oliver, I'm begging you, just do it. You have a bow and arrow. I mean who kills someone with a bow and arrow these days?! Nobody. The cops would never suspect it.
Davis is awake and listening for a while. He tells the JL to kill him because being with the Chloe isn't working anymore and he's losing control. Take a number my man, I've felt that way since season 5. Predictably her ego can't take that and she runs over to get him to calm down but he refuses and snatches his arm away. Bart and Dinah grab a hold of him but he growls and flings them through the walls. Oliver gets wide-eyed and takes aim to shoot but Chloe obstructs his view as she places the black-K on Davis' chest.
The room rocks as a light splits Davis from Doomsday, leaving Davis on the ground out of breath. He hears a growl behind him and turns to see the monster that was within him staring face right at him, with grape kool aid dripping from his mouth.
Scene grade: D-. The only reason why this isn't a F is because I thought the visual of Dooms splitting was cool. The rest? LAME. Why was the JL in this episode if all they were going to do is get knocked out so quickly? The red shirts on Star Trek get more respect than that. Not one punch thrown. Not one power used. Nothing. This scene was just Chlavis nonsense. And in the end, Davis proved that he was going to beast out regardless of whether she was there or not. So her delusions of importance turned out to be false. And shut up, Chloe.
Edge City. A car pulls up and Jimmy gets out. He finds Clark still on the ground in pain. Clark asks that he remove the dart and he does so, but has a guy moment when he geeks out over the dart glowing. He shows it to Clark but he grunts in pain so Jimmy pulls it away and when he does the wound heals before his eyes. Busted! Kinda like my expression when I saw my Dad washing his car in the rain, Jimmy turns away in shock, unable to speak. Clark gets to feet to his feet and all is well until his healed wound is pointed out to him. There's no escape this time, Clark.
The Superman-ly score that I've missed so much in the second half of this season starts to swell and I get that cheesy grin on my face. Clark starts to lie but Jimmy is having none of that. He points out Clark's disappearance and how he was fine the next day after the taking the bullet. He calls him a Super.. Guy.
Clark smiles and says that he's the RBB. That Jimmy's been right all this time, that he was the only one that put it all together, and that he's sorry he lied to him. A look of relief and validation sweeps over Jimmy's face. Clark asks for his help. He asks that Jimmy take Sebastian and Falkor to a place Jimmy owns and asks him to keep them safe. Jimmy doesn't like the idea of taking Davis there but Clark asks if he trusts him.
"Always, C.K." - Iconic Jimmy Olsen, 7:32 PM.
Aw man, this is really going to eat at Clark's conscious later. Clark gives a Superman nod, then speeds off in front of Jimmy, as he stares and watches in awe. LOVED this scene.
Scene grade A+: My favorite scene of the episode by far. Almost made me tear up the first time I saw it. It was everything that Jimmy Olsen could have been on this show. It brought back fond memories of Identity and why I loved that episode so much. Damn, the smile Jimmy had on his face when he learned everything was just pure joy. Total fanboyish. When everyone else learned his secret they NEVER gave that type of smile to Clark. Jimmy was different, he always was. And we'll never get another scene like this everybody. That was stripped from us on the day this episode aired.
Still to come: There's only one rule in Thunderdome - two men enter, both men die for Chloe.
Commercial Break. Skittles Bubble Gum - Chew the rainbow. Inflate the Rainbow. Taste the Rainbow. I guess even though it's bubble gum, "Blow the Rainbow" wouldn't be appropriate, huh?
Excuse me, where's the steam room?
Oh. Wow. Uh, Mr. Kent, first of all, you shouldn't take your clothes off in the hallway before you're in the steam room. Secondly, this is the post office.
Geothermal Facility. Clark speeds in to find everyone on the ground, knocked out. Oliver the rest of the League stir and get to their feet as Clark checks on Davis and Chloe. When asked what happened to Doomsday, the beast says she split him with the Black-K.
Clark asks Oliver where did he go but he's still pretty shell shocked. I don't recall Oliver ever looking so humbled as he was here in this scene. Once again he's showing remorse while Chloe is not. Needing to find Dooms, Clark stands up and focuses his hearing. Miles away he hears the screams of various people with the Volvo sound of Doomsday's growl. He tells the JL he'll get Doomsday there but he still needs them to detonate the bomb to trap him under the ground. A still solemn Oliver promises to follow Clark's plan.
Scene grade: C. Didn't like the Chloe stuff, but again I liked Oliver and the League's regretful disposition. You see, this is why I pull for them and Oliver - because I know that deep down they are good people who want the same goal as Clark. Oliver's methods vary from Clark, but thats why the both of them need a different perspective every now and then. Everyone could use some humble pie at times.
Warning: Small innocent children and animals (if you can read) should cease reading this review from this point forward.
Why Doomsday Grabs the Little Girl
Grandma, why are those men being so mean to you?
Dammit Kid, I told you already! I'm not your Grandma! I'm Doomsday!
But you look like my grandma.
Your grandma has a horns!!?!
Yes. Yes, she does.
Metropolis. Here we go! The battle of the century. The immovable object versus the irresistible force. Dolly Parton versus a bra. Pants vs shorts. The Main Event, baby.
Clark speeds there to see that street wrecked with a nice bonfire going. He spots a empty phone booth and thinks something happened to Lois who said she would be there earlier. His thoughts are interrupted by a car being flung at his face. He catches it, only to see Doomsday pick up that little girl I mentioned by her collar. The soccer mom runs at him screaming and gets thrown through a window for her trouble. Clark runs over and snatches the little girl from Doomsday's grip and places her down... on garbage bags?? At least he has a nice moment of telling her its going to be OK, but its not.
Doomsday has made it over and he knows all about the Lana arc. He grabs Clark and punches him in the stomach three times, then nails him in the face. Blood flies from Clark as he gets sent through two buildings. Dazed, Clark gets to a knee as Doomsday leaps in front him growling. Clark grinds his teeth and takes a running start, shoulder chargeing him a few feet before leaping away from Metropolis to that geothermal facility. The moment they impact the building, Ollie detonates the bomb and there's a massive explosion of recycled footage. And..
And...
ANDDDDD....
Thats it? That was everything? Thats the whole fight!?! Cut me, Mick. Cut me.
Scene grade: (griting teeth) F-. Spoungebob has better fights than this!! Four punches thrown! Just four! And none by Clark! It does not cost a lot of money to have Tom Welling throw a fake punch and the guy in the costume pretend to get hit while a few carrots are cracked for sound effects. Moving your head from a pretend punch = FREE. I do it all the time when I battle Lana in my nightmares! A bag of carrots = 4 dollars! And if you flirt with the Red Cross lady, you get them for free (Call me, Amy). These producers just don't care about fights (unless it's Lana's) because it takes away from valuable Chloe worship time. This was hyped all season long and what we got was a disgrace. Awful, terrible. Give me Peter Griffin's fight with the Chicken any day over this.
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Hey Brian. This is the secretary for DC comics. I wanted to thank you for your successful show and, while I don't want to seem ungrateful, I was hoping I could discuss something with you. Seems that you…well, um… left Jimmy Olsen…well, in my garbage can. Not sure if this is a joke but he's in the damn garbage can. Call me back. Thanks.
<S>Watchtower.</S> I can do this. One sentence at a time. {deep breath} OK, I'm ready. Dammit, I just heard Chloe breathing. OK, I just need something extra, ahh, here we go. 7 year old morphine and Vick's vapor rub. {turns on "kill em all" by Metallica} Let us proceed.
Jimmy checks Davis' pulse and tells.. her that Davis is OK. Chloe thanks him for bringing them there and asks about the place. Thats just the Talon set, who are we kidding here? He explains that it was a place he bought and planned to make it their home after the wedding. That one of the reasons he chose it was because it overlooks all of Metropolis and could be seen by everyone. That he wanted her to know that he was always there watching over her.
Her majesty beems with joy at someone else feeding her ego and now Jimmy is suddenly the bestest guy evah to her! She attempts to play with his emotions again but he cuts her off and says he knows all about Clark. That he now realizes.. how much... she's.. sacrificed.. for everyone..
This isn't working. I need something stronger, like crack.
She tells him that this whole time the reason she's been with Davis to protect Clark, and only that. Oh shup up, Chloe. So when you tazered him it was to protect Clark? Right? Poppycock!!
Woa-oh there Scotty! You've... got-to control yourself, mister!
I'm givin it all I'dst got cap'n, but I cans't take this bull**** any longer!
Jimmy tells her that his eyes are now opened and he views her as a even bigger hero than Clark. This is his official death, the rest is just a formality. And she doesn't correct that statement because she believes it to be so. She starts another pity party and yada yada until it ends with them kissing. Ugh.
And then it happens. No I didn't kill anyone.. yet. A squish noise is heard and Jimmy looks down to see a pipe through his torso. Reveal Davis holding the pipe, having heard everything that big mouth said. Jimmy stands there unable to speak before flopping to the ground. Davis narrows his eyes at Chloe and steps forward, repeating everything she said. She back peddles and tries to explain her way out of it but he's full of rage. He's about to hit a home run with her head when Jimmy, on his last rush of adrenaline, runs behind him and shoves him into a spike, killing Davis. After doing so, Jimmy collapses in her arms and apologizes, before telling her he loves her and dies.
Scene grade: F!! After everything this guy's been through you do this to him!? The person he was engaged to lied to him the entire engagement, flirted behind his back, and didn't respect him enough to tell him that she was losing her memories. Then he gets gutted by a beast and put in a coma where she doesn't even visit him. He comes back and she tasers him while he's still sick! She has dinner with the guy who ruined his marriage one week after they separated. And after ALL of this.. you make him worship at her feet and be killed by the same guy who already tried to kill him 3 times already this season!?!?! What kind of show is this?!
Still to come: I learn the answer to an important question: Is it possible to smother one's self with a pillow?
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Jimmy's Funeral. A priest recites the 23rd Psalm as Chloe puts a photo of him and her on Jimmy's coffin.
"Henry James Olsen, may you rest in peace" - The worst retcon in the history of Smallville, 7:51 PM
Bart, Dinah, and Ollie are present, with Oliver wearing shades to hide the tears. After the Priest says his last words, a little boy walks away with his father. Jimmy's killer sees him and walks over. She gives him his brother's camera and makes some off handed remark to signal that he's iconic Jimmy Olsen. I shake my head in disbelief. All of them walk away except Oliver who stays behind the longest to watch the coffin. Reveal Clark who is also watching from a distance, not wanting to alert anyone of his presence. Oliver sees him and they exchange sad glances before Oliver walks off.
Scene grade: The letter of the day, kids, is F. This was yet another gutless move by gutless producers. And now they'll hide behind DC and avoid all press for a few months until Comic Con. I know Jimmy has said Bartholomew before and even if he didn't, for three years this guy has been calling himself Jimmy Olsen. He worked with Lois at the DP, he was a reporter, he wears a bow-tie, he's dorky, people called him Jimmy, his I.D. said Jimmy, his wedding invitation said Jimmy, press releases by the CW and WB said Jimmy. The first time we saw him in Zod he introduces himself as James Olsen. So this scene fails, not only for this stupid retcon, but because of the message it sends. I as a fan have wasted my time rooting for this guy who, out of left field, wasn't who he said he was. Is Clark's middle name still Joseph? Is Lois' middle name Joanne? I'm just asking just to be sure, you know, cause they may not be who we think they are. There's never been a more despicable move than this retcon.
The Kent Home - December 1995
Clark, would you like to explain these to me? Your mother found them in your closet.
Dad. I just?
Clark, why do you have big red coats in your closet?! Why?! No son of mine is gonna wear big red coats! How dare you!
Well Pete thinks its cool!
PETE DOESN'T LIVE UNDER THIS ROOF!
I'll show you, dad! I'm gonna wear big red coats on TV one day! You'll see! You'll all see!!
<S>WatchTower</S>. A very serious Clark opens the door and walks in, stopping when he sees the stained blood of Jimmy still on the floor. He stares at the stain and footsteps break his thoughts. But of course, its Chloe. Clark sees her and looks away annoyed that someone saw him there. She hugs him and he isn't enthusiastic about it. When asked how he got out of the tunnel before the geothermal explosion, he isn't really sure but just knows he made it out in time, although not in time enough. His voice saddens as he says he's searched everywhere but, he swallows, and then says that there is no sign of Lois. Chloe sobs and says she saw someone putting a missing person' bulletin up for her and that it gave her hope that she didn't lose everyone she loves.
3, 2, 1...
"You were there today Clark, weren't you? I really needed you. Why didn't you come to me?" - Me me me me me me me me me ME, 7:56 PM.
"Would someone PLEASE spray her with raid?" - myself, seconds later.
Clark tells her he's the reason Jimmy's dead. That Oliver was right and that he put humanity on a pedestal. That it wasn't a Doomsday that killed Jimmy, but a human. The beast says she was standing there and know who killed Jimmy. Clark tells her to sell the place and just walk away, but there's more me me me talk from the blonde until she calls the new place <S>WatchTower</S>. She says the JL disappeared and cut off all contact with her and that she needs him to bring them home.
"Home? I don't have a home." - Clark Kent, alien from another galaxy, 7:57 PM.
Though I have problems with this scene, the way Clark looks and sounds has me feeling sorry for him. He continues that he's tried to forget he's an alien because he thought his kryptonian side was a danger, but now he's convinced his human side is whats really dangerous. It allows him to get attached and make decisions based on emotions and he sees it as his enemy now.
"So because of some psychopath you're going to cut the rest of us out of your life?" - says the woman who hid Davis and pushed everyone away, ran away with Davis, and talked to Davis about starting a new life away from everyone not more than 40 MINUTES AGO, 7:58 PM.
She says something about being a hero but I tuned it out. Clark says that emotions are stopping him from being the hero he could be, and that the world needs a new emotionless hero. Sniffles, Jor-El would so proud of his boy. Chloe asks what does he mean.
"Clark Kent is dead." - John Doe, 7:58 PM.
He says goodbye, turns and walks away, disappearing for added emphasis to end the scene.
Scene grade: D-. No no! Thats not what he should have learned from this! Its not your faith in humanity that is a weakness, Clark. Its that you put your faith in the wrong people, especially that person you was just talking to. If you want to take a stand against relying on human emotions, do it against her and Tess who openly use those emotions against you for evil. As for the <S>Watchtower</S> being a gift to someone like Chloe Sullivan that was stained with Jimmy's blood, I think for the sake of my unborn children I will just finish up this review.
At the Luthor Mansion Tess hears those strange voices again and runs toward it. Downstairs and just outside of the study, she sees a purple light shining through a window. Looking closer its that orb again. A beam of light shoots from the thing and a nude body materializes out of nowhere. It picks up the orb in his hand as the voices chant "Zod, Zod, Zod" like this is a pep rally to end the scene, the episode, and this season.
Scene grade: So.. that orb caused Tess' security system to crash, blasted through the metal door, flew around, hid everywhere to avoid her guards, crawled outside this window by itself, and now a pantless Zod is back? Is that about right? Whats Russian alpahbet for F?
All in All: Let me get this straight. Clark Kent just quit the DP, Lois Lane is missing and figures to get fired as soon as she appears, Jimmy was a lie for the past 3 years, Chloe freed the slaves and was crowned queen of yo-yo land? Did I wake up on Mars?
Clark. I'd say for the majority he was pretty good. He was ready to give his life and while and his plan to get rid of Doomsday worked. So good job by him on that. But they really did it to him this time. Now he carries the guilt of being the one who asked Jimmy to take those fugitives to that building. Add in that he presumes Lois might be dead as well and you get this zombie Clark. The guy's eyes said it all, there wasn't anything there. He did die - he's dead inside. And until he finds Lois he'll stay that way. This metaphoric death could be good if it causes him to make sweeping changes in his life regarding the shady people around him. If it doesn't lead to that then this is just unneccessary angst for nothing.
Lois. Three scenes and gone two minutes before the halfway point. Riddle me this: who.. gets.. a.. cliffhanger.. 18 minutes into a finale!? Answer - Nobody. The whole point of a cliffhanger is that it happens near the end of an episode. This wasn't some guest star, its Lois Lane. PS made sure to get her out of the episode early so that they could devote the last half of the episode to Chlavis/Chloe's rise to sainthood/and the non-fight and ramfications. And they better not have her return with amnesia or any nonsense like that. But who knows? Maybe it'll be a "quintessential" amnesia. Eh?
Davis. He proved just who he always was - an obsessive, selfish murderer. He deserved to be sent to the PZ, not to be allowed to play house with Chloe and live as a free man. As a character he was an interesting concept at first, and then it all failed miserably. Like Jimmy, he became a pawn for Chloe's ego.
Oliver. Underused in this episode. He shows up and Clark acts jerky to him, then he acts jerky to Clark, and then he doesn't even get to do any fight scene with Doomsday. Nothing. He just shows up to the funeral and disapears. What kind of wrap is that to his season arc? He also got no screentime with Tess either and didn't even mention her.
Jimmy. AA, you were a joy to watch, and you are way too good for this show. He's my Jimmy Olsen. Lois doesn't even know he's dead and when she finds out she won't take it well at all. Oh, and the other elephant in the room.. how are we to believe that when this other kid shows up in 4 years, that Clark and Lois will just take him under their wing all willy nilly? Ah, there I go again thinking too much.
Chloe the 1st. You know, back in the good ole days of seasons 1-3 (when the show was still about Clark) Chloe would get 3 minutes at most in an episode. Sometimes one would blink and miss her. I remember those days - I had cake. But those days are gone, and Chloeville will now reign for 22 more episodes. Having only commited the worse most unforgiving of crimes, covered them up, and never owned up to any of them when she was caught.. Chloe managed to escape all sense of logical storytelling. I can safely say that in the 8 years of Smallville not even Lana has done the horrible things Chloe's done and gotten away with them. I can't wait until she burns an ophanage to the ground next season and be given a purple heart for courageous arson.
As for the spec that she is pregnant by her belly rub (which I did notice), well.. and how can I put this delicately.. its revolting. People that hide human remains in the dumpster and not report it to the cops are not mother material. The kid would be better served growing up in a hell dimension.
In Doomsday, PS used their standard formula: Tension for the sake of tension without any logic behind it. OOC dialogue. The type of angst that you only find in North California. Plotholes the size of Lana's wig. And Earth-shattering, all-that-is-right-in-the-world defying retcons.
This was the most disappointing episode in my Smallville experience. If I judged this by emotion alone it would be a 0. But looking over my scene grades there were parts of some scenes that I liked. And for that it gets 4 out of 10. Second worst of the season and worse than Requiem. I can't believe they skimmed out on ED's episodes to afford THIS. What a travesty.
My final rankings for the season. Usually I just round them off to whole numbers but I'll add the decimals this time.
Identity: 10.0
Hex: 9.9
Commited: 9.5
Stiletto: 9.4
Bloodline: 9.3
Turbulence: 9.3
Bulletproof. 9.2
Instinct 9.1
Bride: 8.4
Oddyssy: 8.3
Prey: 8.1
Plastique: 8.0
Infamous: 7.9
Legion: 7.4
Injustice: 6.5
Toxic: 6.1
Abyss: 5.7
Eternal: 5.5
Beast: 4.7
Requiem: 4.5
Doomsday: 3.9
Power: 0.9999 and that was only because I like the opening credits.
Thanks to everyone who put up with my insanity. I don't know where our show is going from here. Its a steep hill to climb. Enjoy the downtime and I'll see ya next season.
stenochick
05-25-2009, 12:09 PM
I think Cedric got his hands on a Legion ring and is deciding if he should go to the future to hang with Lois, or go to the past right before the Doomsday script was finalized and add some rewrites.
lol!!!!
Cedric, we hit send at the same time. Disregard my post!
costas22
05-25-2009, 12:21 PM
Welcome back Cedric!
Tompouce
05-25-2009, 12:24 PM
Hey Cédric ! I would say the same as Costas but you told us "see you next season". What does it mean ? You are not gonna be out of here until september ? Are you ?
stenochick
05-25-2009, 12:25 PM
Cedric, I agree with your review. I liked watching Doomsday, but I have the same criticisms as you. I think Clark was actually Kal-El at the end. Clark and Kal split from each other with the black K. I know that this did not happen onscreen, but TPTB will edit it in in a flashback scene during the premiere, just like they did when Chloe blew up and Lana put her clone in her truck. That is why Clark had such flat affect, he was actually Kal-El.
wafflles87
05-25-2009, 12:27 PM
Ced-Ric!!
Thanks for the awesome review :D
Fallen One
05-25-2009, 12:30 PM
Sorry guys, and thanks. I wrote four reviews for this episode. I wasn't satified with the first three and thought I ranted too much in them, so I kept trying a different approach until I found one I liked. Its taken some time, 11 days to be exact.
And even in this one, I had over 57000 characters, and I just spent the past hour on the site editing it down to the maximum 50000 characters allow. I wish I could have posted the unedited version. But most of the stuff I cut was from my wrap up (all in all) section. So hopefully its still an enjoyable read.
costas22
05-25-2009, 12:33 PM
Cedric, I agree with your review. I liked watching Doomsday, but I have the same criticisms as you. I think Clark was actually Kal-El at the end. Clark and Kal split from each other with the black K. I know that this did not happen onscreen, but TPTB will edit it in in a flashback scene during the premiere, just like they did when Chloe blew up and Lana put her clone in her truck. That is why Clark had such flat affect, he was actually Kal-El.
I have not read Cedric's review yet but you make a good point. You got me thinking. At the Geo facility there was still the Black K right? Who's to say that when Clark and Doomsday crushed there that they didn't land near that rock? And even if that didn't happen, maybe the explosion caused the Black K to explode as well. And maybe that Kryptonite explosion impacted Clark as he was getting out of the hole. So, maybe Kal El escaped and talked with Chloe at Watchtower, while Clark is still down there. It would be a good scenario, but i don't see them using it.
Fallen One
05-25-2009, 12:44 PM
Stenochick, I so wish I had a Legion ring lol. And yep, one of the first things I'd do is go back and burn the original script, and maybe kidnap Peterson and Souders so other writers would be forced to write the episode. Was Clark something else in that last scene or what? It almost made me think that he was the Eradicator as some speculated. He's just a broken man right now and he really, really needs to see Lois alive just so he could know that he didn't fail her at least.
I hate it when the producers put him in these no win situations. I knew he'd take Jimmy's death and Lois' disapearence really hard, but I didn't quite expect this level.
Thanks Costas!
Karine, I took a mini break from the site and from Smallville while I wrote these reviews but I'll get back into the flow of things once we start getting new spoilers in a couple of weeks. No way could I stay away until September. You guys are stuck with me.
Thanks Cam! ;)
Tompouce
05-25-2009, 12:47 PM
Ouf, Cédric. I don't like not seeing people I "know", it is a relief to know you will be there, with us;)
Joe90
05-25-2009, 12:48 PM
Cedric, I agree with your review. I liked watching Doomsday, but I have the same criticisms as you. I think Clark was actually Kal-El at the end. Clark and Kal split from each other with the black K. I know that this did not happen onscreen, but TPTB will edit it in in a flashback scene during the premiere, just like they did when Chloe blew up and Lana put her clone in her truck. That is why Clark had such flat affect, he was actually Kal-El.
Good Point and i like it...But if Clark was actually Kal-El speaking to Chloe...Kal-El wouldnt have been searching for Clois in the first place or given a hoot about Jimmy's Funeral??
I do think it was the real Clark but totally devastated about the Final outcome.
EternalTwilight
05-25-2009, 01:41 PM
Cedric welcome back! This place is just not the same without you. Your review is the best part about the whole episode. Fantastic job, as usual.
cma_454
05-25-2009, 01:48 PM
Cedric,
You're a braver man than I am.
I'd rather have all my teeth drilled, then pulled (without anesthetic) than to have to watch Doomsday again (to write a review).
Thanks for another great review!
Tompouce
05-25-2009, 01:52 PM
Good Point and i like it...But if Clark was actually Kal-El speaking to Chloe...Kal-El wouldnt have been searching for Clois in the first place or given a hoot about Jimmy's Funeral??
I do think it was the real Clark but totally devastated about the Final outcome.
I agree with you, Joe. I am not totally sure of course as Clark had a strange behaviour but I see things like you. Clark has to make his grief about many things and then he will come back stronger, that is how it is for us, so the same for him...;)
tibbit78
05-25-2009, 02:07 PM
Great review, Cedric! That was a fantastic review! It was worth the wait!
Jimmy Olsen was the best part of Doomsday. I'm glad you rated it A+ (the Clark & Jimmy Olsen scene):
I agree with you. My favorite part was when Clark told Jimmy that he was the Red Blue Blur, and then he super-speeded right in front of Jimmy Olsen and Jimmy's awesome lines were, "That is so cool." I also loved the Jimmy & Lois scene!
LoveHurts38
05-25-2009, 02:08 PM
Welcoe back Cedric loved your review.
Jaderoyale
05-25-2009, 02:24 PM
Oh Cedric. That review was well worth the wait. In fact, you may have made my day turn round alot after reading that :)
I just wanted to quote this, because you're top graded episode, was by far the best of the season.
My final rankings for the season. Usually I just round them off to whole numbers but I'll add the decimals this time.
Identity: 10.0
Hex: 9.9
Commited: 9.5
Stiletto: 9.4
Bloodline: 9.3
Turbulence: 9.3
Bulletproof. 9.2
Instinct 9.1
Bride: 8.4
Oddyssy: 8.3
Prey: 8.1
Plastique: 8.0
Infamous: 7.9
Legion: 7.4
Injustice: 6.5
Toxic: 6.1
Abyss: 5.7
Eternal: 5.5
Beast: 4.7
Requiem: 4.5
Doomsday: 3.9
Power: 0.9999 and that was only because I like the opening credits.
Thanks to everyone who put up with my insanity. I don't know where our show is going from here. Its a steep hill to climb. Enjoy the downtime and I'll see ya next season.
ooglebug
05-25-2009, 02:39 PM
cedric - that was absolutely hilarious! i was laughing sooo hard!
AND you made good points :D
xxxx
costas22
05-25-2009, 02:51 PM
Great review Cedric. As i said before, it was just like the last Transformers movie. Revenge of the Fallen. I am amazed at how you were able to write it while clutching your stomach from the pain at the same time! Looking forward to Season 9 and your new reviews.
dotsie23
05-25-2009, 02:52 PM
A few of my faves from Cedric's review: "A well fed Bart" "Oh shut up, Chloe" The Joan and Melissa Rivers Red Carpet Interviews! I was laughing so hard I had tears! :rotfl::rotfl:
Vergon6
05-25-2009, 03:09 PM
Great review, Cedric. You really brought home all that was wrong with this episode. "Arctic" was better than this.
nic25
05-25-2009, 03:21 PM
Sorry guys, and thanks. I wrote four reviews for this episode. I wasn't satified with the first three and thought I ranted too much in them, so I kept trying a different approach until I found one I liked. Its taken some time, 11 days to be exact.
And even in this one, I had over 57000 characters, and I just spent the past hour on the site editing it down to the maximum 50000 characters allow. I wish I could have posted the unedited version. But most of the stuff I cut was from my wrap up (all in all) section. So hopefully its still an enjoyable read.
Great Job Cedric as always! It was worth the wait :)
NoSupeForYou
05-25-2009, 04:29 PM
Great review Cedric and I think your recap of the season in the previously on section is better and more accurate than the one they put in the preview for season 9.
Maybe you can get your hands on some Black K and then you can use it to split the good parts of the finale from the bad? Then you could throw the bad down a deep dark hole never to be seen again, right along with Chloe.
Rizarro
05-25-2009, 07:11 PM
AWESOME Review Cedric!!! :D I was literally choking with laughter as I was reading it! :lol::rotfl: I LOVED the Red Carpet part, as well as the scene's grades and the commercial breaks! :lol::rotfl: It's good to have you back! :D
geminis
05-25-2009, 08:14 PM
Hallelujah! Cedric lives!!!!
I have to admit coughing up a lung at the Star Trek Scotty "I'm giving it all I've got... canna take this bull..." and Lana/Sarah Connor/Kyle Reese bit: "...It absolutely will not stop. Ever..." I think I scared my neighbors for laughing so loud. The cats are definitely slightly traumatized, since there hasn't been a lot of hilarity or happiness on the home front lately. Have to admit to a big time hankering for reading the unedited version, but there's no doubt about the read-it was worthwhile. If only the episode itself were. Sigh.
Doomsday was the most uncliffhanger-y episode. I wish I were on pins and needles, dying to know what is going to happen next, but exactly like Clark and Lois, my fierce need to know just went poof.
Not giving up though. They may have had Clark give up on himself and humanity, but I'm not giving up on him.
Violet-Shadow
05-25-2009, 09:31 PM
I've been waiting for this review for over a week and it was well worth the wait! Thank you Cedric for your review! IA on all points!
The Superman-ly score that I've missed so much in the second half of this season starts to swell and I get that cheesy grin on my face. Clark starts to lie but Jimmy is having none of that. He points out Clark's disappearance and how he was fine the next day after the taking the bullet. He calls him a Super.. Guy.
Clark smiles and says that he's the RBB. That Jimmy's been right all this time, that he was the only one that put it all together, and that he's sorry he lied to him. A look of relief and validation sweeps over Jimmy's face. Clark asks for his help. He asks that Jimmy take Sebastian and Falkor to a place Jimmy owns and asks him to keep them safe. Jimmy doesn't like the idea of taking Davis there but Clark asks if he trusts him.
"Always, C.K." - Iconic Jimmy Olsen, 7:32 PM.
Ah, you're going to make me cry! This was my favorite scene of the episode...iconic in every way. Thinking about what happened later makes me angry...
And...
ANDDDDD....
Thats it? That was everything? Thats the whole fight!?! Cut me, Mick. Cut me.
Yes, that was the whole fight. The entire Director's Cut was the whole fight. After reading the comic that contains the BIG fight, I was SO disappointed at this...lame fight that didn't even last as long as the Tess/Lois fight (at least that's the way it felt). There was a huge build up to the fight then...you blink, and it's over.
Scene grade: F!! After everything this guy's been through you do this to him!? The person he was engaged to lied to him the entire engagement, flirted behind his back, and didn't respect him enough to tell him that she was losing her memories. Then he gets gutted by a beast and put in a coma where she doesn't even visit him. He comes back and she tasers him while he's still sick! She has dinner with the guy who ruined his marriage one week after they separated. And after ALL of this.. you make him worship at her feet and be killed by the same guy who already tried to kill him 3 times already this season!?!?! What kind of show is this?!
Those were EXACTLY my thoughts in this scene. Chloe became the HERO, a greater than Clark apparently, and Jimmy apologized to her. And then he DIED!!!! I was SO angry at this scene.
{scenes showing Lana smiling at a cup of peanuts
:rotfl:
"Henry James Olsen, may you rest in peace"
- The worst retcon in the history of Smallville, 7:51 PM
Bart, Dinah, and Ollie are present, with Oliver wearing shades to hide the tears. After the Priest says his last words, a little boy walks away with his father. Jimmy's killer sees him and walks over. She gives him his brother's camera and makes some off handed remark to signal that he's iconic Jimmy Olsen. I shake my head in disbelief. All of them walk away except Oliver who stays behind the longest to watch the coffin. Reveal Clark who is also watching from a distance, not wanting to alert anyone of his presence. Oliver sees him and they exchange sad glances before Oliver walks off.
Scene grade: The letter of the day, kids, is F. This was yet another gutless move by gutless producers. And now they'll hide behind DC and avoid all press for a few months until Comic Con. I know Jimmy has said Bartholomew before and even if he didn't, for three years this guy has been calling himself Jimmy Olsen. He worked with Lois at the DP, he was a reporter, he wears a bow-tie, he's dorky, people called him Jimmy, his I.D. said Jimmy, his wedding invitation said Jimmy, press releases by the CW and WB said Jimmy. The first time we saw him in Zod he introduces himself as James Olsen. So this scene fails, not only for this stupid retcon, but because of the message it sends. I as a fan have wasted my time rooting for this guy who, out of left field, wasn't who he said he was. Is Clark's middle name still Joseph? Is Lois' middle name Joanne? I'm just asking just to be sure, you know, cause they may not be who we think they are. There's never been a more despicable move than this retcon.
Thank you Cedric! This was a RETCON and Jimmy WAS and IS THE Jimmy Olsen. AA did an amazing job and this scene didn't just break my heart...it ENRAGED me beyond anything this show has ever done in the past. It is because of this scene that I will no longer watch this show.
Lois.
Three scenes and gone two minutes before the halfway point. Riddle me this: who.. gets.. a.. cliffhanger.. 18 minutes into a finale!? Answer - Nobody. The whole point of a cliffhanger is that it happens near the end of an episode. This wasn't some guest star, its Lois Lane. PS made sure to get her out of the episode early so that they could devote the last half of the episode to Chlavis/Chloe's rise to sainthood/and the non-fight and ramfications. And they better not have her return with amnesia or any nonsense like that. But who knows? Maybe it'll be a "quintessential" amnesia. Eh?
That Lois was so underused in this episode amazed me. I really didn't expect the Clois scene that fans were promised but I DID expect more Lois. It seems that all mythos characters were dismissed so Chole could shine. :rolleyes:
Jimmy.
AA, you were a joy to watch, and you are way too good for this show. He's my Jimmy Olsen. Lois doesn't even know he's dead and when she finds out she won't take it well at all. Oh, and the other elephant in the room.. how are we to believe that when this other kid shows up in 4 years, that Clark and Lois will just take him under their wing all willy nilly? Ah, there I go again thinking too much.
AGREED and AGREED!!! AA is AMAZING and Jimmy will always be my Jimmy. My favorite JO to date. Nothing can change that, not even this lazy, lame retcon.
Chloe the 1st.
I can't wait until she burns an ophanage to the ground next season and be given a purple heart for courageous arson.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Again, thanks for the perspective Cedric! :)
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-25-2009, 09:58 PM
And the Oscar for worst season finale in Smallville history goes to...wait a hush among the people sitting in the brilliantly lit room of the Oscar Hall. Oliver Queen jumps out of his seat mumbling that he forgot something. As the announcer opens the envelope and says the Oscar goes to Dooommm....the announcer falls to the ground with a arrow straight in his chest. Oliver Queen is back in his seat with a bottle of gin, just as Souders gives him a quick wink.
Oh Cedric I'm so happy you came out of your cave and were brave enough to write a compelling review even in time of grieving for Jimmy Olsen and the fate of Smallville thats rests in the hands of TPTB :rolleyes:
We all really missed you and thank you so much for your words that make every Smallville episode complete...Yes even Power. I hope you will still be with us. Thanks again for putting things in a different perspective. ;) Take care
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1. B/c she went to Smallville to look for him (Crusade)
2. B/c she had a hard time just looking at his face (Crusade)
3. B/c she has a soft spot for stray dogs and naked guys (Crusade)
4. B/c "give [her] a nerd with glasses anyday" (Crusade)
5. B/c she's not alone anymore (Crusade)
6. B/c he invited her to stay on the farm with him (Crusade)
7. B/c he only remember her and flying (Crusade)
8. B/c she thinks his mom's cool (Crusade)
9. B/c she calls him Smallville
10. B/c he was impressed by her kung fu fighting skills (Gone)
11. B/c he checked out her legs (Gone)
12. B/c they just shower together (Gone)
13. B/c she finishes his thoughts (Gone)
14. B/c they found Chloe together (Gone)
15. B/c "the best ones always start that way"
16. B/c he does check her out (Facade)
17. B/c they saved each other (Facade)
18. B/c she wanted to see him in a wet t-shirt (Facade)
19. B/c she ruffled his hair (Facade)
20. B/c he wanted her opinion on his letterman jacket (Devoted)
21. B/c she checked him out (Devoted)
22. B/c they make a good investigative team (Devoted)
23. B/c she'll visit (Devoted)
24. B/c they planned Chloe's party together (Spell)
25. B/c she can calm him down (when he was about to kill Alicia's killer) (Pariah)
26. B/c she makes him laugh
27. B/c they cover for each other (Recruit)
28. B/c he freaked out when he found out she was missing (Recruit)
29. B/c he saved her life (Recruit)
30. B/c he said that she could stay with him (Recruit)
31. B/c she named Shelby "Clarkie" after him (Krypto)
32. B/c even Lucy noticed the sparks between them (Lucy)
33. B/c he listens to her (Lucy)
34. B/c she opens up to him (Lucy)
35. B/c they tease each other (Lucy)
36. B/c they're secret friends(Lucy)
37. B/c he knows when to give her her space (Lucy)
38. B/c "now it all begins" (Lucy)
39. B/c they're written in the stars (Lucy)
40. B/c they "keep it quiet in public but mack on the downlow" (Spirit)
41. B/c going to the prom together wasn't in the realm of possibilities but they ended up going together anyways (Spirit)
42. B/c he visibly gulped and was impressed when he saw her in her prom dress (Spirit)
43. B/c "a little close to the boob don't ya think?" (Spirit)
44. B/c she tells it to him like it is (Blank)
45. B/c she knows how to deal with memory wiped Clark(Blank)
46. B/c she guesses that she can't call him Smallville anymore (Blank)
47. B/c he cradled her in his arms and tenderly looked at her when she was about to be broken (Forever)
48. B/c she dreams about a guy in a red cape (Commencement)
49. B/c he'll try not to miss her too much (Commencement)
50. B/c she knows that she's always welcome in his home (Commencement)
51. B/c even his parents love her (Commencement)
52. B/c he suggested a career in journalism for her (Commencement)
53. B/c with her luck she'd end up partnered with the most bumbling reporter on the masthead (Commencement)
54. B/c she tied his tie for him (Commencement)
55. B/c he "actually looks handsome for a change" (Commencement)
56. B/c when she sees him going up on the stage she'll be thinking one thing, "Dear God please don't let him trip." (Commencement)
57. B/c she slugs him in the arm
58. B/c he smiles more around her
59. B/c she whistled when he got his diploma (Commencement)
60. B/c they hugged and it was awesome! (Arrival)
61. B/c she went back to help out his parents (Arrival)
62. B/c he thanked her for helping his parents (Arrival)
63. B/c he wanted to be the one to save her (Aqau)
64. B/c if Lois didn't know better she'd say he was jealous (Aqua)
65. B/c "someday she'll meet someone even more special" (Aqua)
66. B/c Clark couldn't tear his eyes away from her when he saw her dance (Exposed)
67. B/c she gave him a lap dance (Exposed)
68. B/c "dontcha wish your girlfriend was hot like [Lois]?" (Exposed)
69. B/c "give me a twenty and meet me out back" (Exposed)
70. B/c he super jumped and brought down a helicopter to save her life (Exposed)
71. B/c she called him "007" (Exposed)
72. B/c "love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction" (Exposed)
73. B/c he was disappointed to see her leave (Exposed)
74. B/c he helped her move out (Exposed)
75. B/c they congratulated Chloe in unison (Exposed)
76. B/c she thanked him for being a good friend (Exposed)
77. B/c she tell everyone about his Elmer Fudd nightlight if he tells anyone about the lapdance (Exposed)
78. B/c "Aye, aye sailor" (Exposed)
79. B/c Lois understands his family (Fanatic)
80. B/c she became his dad's campaign manager (Fanatic)
81. B/c Lois has a thing for heroes (Fanatic)
82. B/c when Clark said he couldn't imagine loving someone else, who should drive up but Lois? (Lockdown)
83. B/c "turn that frown upside down, Skippy" (Lockdown)
84. B/c she'd "be lucky to end up with someone as honorable as Clark Kent someday" (Reckoning)
85. B/c when Clark turned back the clock he almost lost Lois (Reckoning)
86. B/c Clark immediately noticed when Lois wasn't there (Reckoning)
87. B/c she realized right away that something wasn't right with him (Hypnotic)
89. B/c when she found out what was wrong she immediately went to his farm to snap him out of it (Hypnotic)
90. B/c if it's necessary, she'll take him down (Hypnotic)
91. B/c he gave her a love tap (Hypnotic)
92. B/c his mom called Lois when she thought Clark needed help with Maddie (Fragile)
93. B/c he went to see her in the hospital when she was injured (Fragile)
94. B/c he brought her back to her apartment and told her to take it easy after she was hurt (Fragile)
95. B/c he got her a glass of water without her asking him for one (Fragile)
96. B/c Graham assumed Lois was Clark's girlfriend (Fade)
97. B/c when he saw her naked he was stunned and amazed (Fade)
98. B/c long after she closed the door he couldn't stop staring (Fade)
99. B/c they both take marathon showers (Fade)
100. B/c he feels the need to lob a grenade at every guy she dates (Fade)
101. B/c when she found out her was in trouble, she frantically tried to save him (Fade)
102. B/c she wants to meet a decent guy from a decent family (Fade)
103. B/c he's her Jonathon (Fade)
104. B/c "maybe you have to get through all the wrong men to recognize the right one" (Fade)
105. B/c she threw him a birthday party (Oracle)
106. B/c she made her world famous rum cake for him (Oracle)
107. B/c she bought him a journal to let out his feelings (Oracle)
108. B/c she gave him the tough love she knew he needed (Oracle)
109. B/c "Sometimes you have to tuck your feelings away until it's the right time. Like stuffing dollars into a piggy bank for a bike you can't quite afford." (Oracle)
110. B/c she's the Harley he's been saving up for (Oracle)
111. B/c "there are times when I think you don't know me at all...and others when I think you know me better than anyone." (Oracle)
112. B/c "well, that's what I'm here for, Smallville. One save at a time." (Oracle)
113. B/c they have the best deep and meaningful conversations (Oracle)
114. B/c he asked her how she was feeling (Zod)
115. B/c the fortress of solitude is her heaven (Zod)
116. B/c "I'm glad you're back" (Zod)
117. B/c he held her hand (Zod)
118. B/c Lana is his past, Lois is his future! (Crimson)
119. B/c he has abs of steel (Combat)
120. B/c he comfort hers and she comforts him (Siren and Arctic)
121. B/c they care about each others happiness
122. B/c he was there when she needed a shoulder to cry on (Siren)
123. B/c she doesn't want to settle for anyone else! (Siren)
124. Because they will always be there for eachother no matter what happens (Siren and Arctic)
125. B/c they make the best partners ever! (Apocalypse)
126. B/c they literally collide (Apocalypse)
127. B/c she thought he was "clumsy but cute" (Apocalypse)
128. B/c he swept her off her feet (Apocalypse)
129. She tried to sneek a peak (Apocalypse)
130. Because she helped him into the suit and glasses (Apocalypse)
131. B/c he thinks she's a good friend (Apocalypse)
132. B/c nothing says I love you like a punch on the shoulder. (Apocalypse)
133. Because she bought him a drink (or more hopefully) (Apocalypse)
134. B/c they're destined for each other in any reality (Apocalypse)
135. Because she knows he can do better then be just a "farm boy" (Arctic)
136. Because in his darkness, she was his light. (Arctic)
137. B/c she calls him Kent and he calls her Lane (Odyssey)
138. B/c he's going to be a little closer to home (Odyssey)
139. B/c he recognised her voice (Odyssey)
140. B/c team Lane and Kent kick butt like no other (Odyssey)
141. B/c we know that he actually does appreciate her feminine charms (Odyssey)
142. B/c she brings out his sense of humour (Odyssey)
143. B/c if he sticks with her, she'll protect him (Odyssey)
144. B/c he checked on her to see if she was okay (Odyssey)
145. B/c he wanted Chloe to watch over her (Odyssey)
146. B/c they're going to be neighbours (Odyssey)
147. B/c he'll see her bright and early Monday morning (Odyssey)
148. B/c the legendary Lane and Kent partnership is just beginning.
149. B/c they appreciate each others attempts at heroism (Odyssey)
150. B/c she gave him points for punctuality, but "what's with the wardrobe malfunction?" (Plastique)
151. B/c she got him dressed appropriately (Plastique)
152. B/c he got changed in a phone booth (Plastique)
153. B/c she wanted him to make a good impression on his first day at work (Plastique)
154. B/c he wanted her opinion on how he looked (Plastique)
155. B/c she visibly paused and gulped before she told him he looked good (Plastique)
156. B/c their scene paralleled Apocalypse (Plastique)
157. B/c he caught her when she fell (Plastique)
158. B/c their gazes lingered on each other (Plastique)
159. B/c he thinks she is the Goddess of Journalism
160. B/c she asked him if he was okay and what happened when he got back (Plastique)
161. B/c she took him under her wing and taught him the rules of journalism (Plastique)
162. B/c she wanted to know how his meeting with Tess went (Plastique)
163. B/c she thinks he has a charming smile (Plastique)
164. B/c he thinks she sounded like a jealous girlfriend (Plastique)
165. B/c when she can't get the info they need, he can (Plastique)
166. B/c he went to see Bette, since he knows she doesn't do well with kids (Plastique)
167. B/c he told her everything he knew about the story (Plastique)
168. B/c "You want to share a by-line with me?" (Plastique)
169. B/c she got him the obit (Plastique)
170. B/c they investigated the story together (Plastique)
171. B/c he looked slightly impressed by all the cards she had for breaking and entering (Plastique)
172. B/c he covered for her (Plastique)
173. B/c she allows him to think for himself (Plastique)
174. B/c he can recite her rules
175. B/c she got her first front page article while working with him (Plastique)
176. B/c she gave him encouraging advice (Plastique)
177. B/c she’s more proud that they uncovered the truth than she was with getting a front page story (Plastique)
178. B/c "Thanks for helping me break the story, Clark." (Plastique)
179. B/c she thinks he has a long career ahead of him at the Daily Planet (Plastique)
180. B/c now they're officially team Lane and Kent (Plastique)
181. B/c they're attached at the hip (Toxic)
182. B/c they see each other more than Chloe sees Jimmy (Toxic)
183. B/c she underlines his typos (Toxic)
184. B/c he offered her the silent support he knew she needed (Toxic)
185. B/c she stole his coffee (Toxic)
186. B/c he wanted to know where she was last night (Toxic)
187. B/c he knew giving up the story wasn't like her (Toxic)
188. B/c he knew she was burying her emotions in work (Toxic)
189. B/c they can talk to each other about their past realtionships (Toxic)
190. B/c he wanted to give her advice and in the end she gave him some too (Toxic)
191. B/c she needs him (Instinct)
192. B/c he took on some of her work load for her (Instinct)
193. B/c she can dish out the tough love (Instinct)
194. B/c she wants him to "look outside his wheelhouse" (Instinct)
195. B/c he needs to "try another scoop of the 31 flavours" (Instinct)
196. B/c she's the "little less sweet vanilla and a lot more wild cherry" that he needs to try (Instinct)
197. B/c she was flirting with him when she mentioned an activity that two people share with repetitive motion that builds to a climax (Instinct)
198. B/c he made her giggle (Instinct)
199. B/c he held her coffee for her (Instinct)
200. B/c he just learned to dog paddle so she's not going to throw him into the deep end without a floatie (Instinct)
201. B/c he's lucky she came along (Instinct)
202. B/c when she saw Clark with Maxima she couldn't believe what she was seeing (Instinct)
203. B/c she was able to break the hold Maxima had on Clark (Instinct)
204. B/c their eye contact alone in that scene was electrifying (Instinct)
205. B/c she chose to take the stairs (Instinct)
206. B/c he couldn't just let her go (Instinct)
207. B/c he ran after her and tried to explain (Instinct)
208. B/c she rained on his orgy and sent Maxima away (Instinct)
209. B/c she was angry with him for making out with Maxima (Instinct)
210. B/c he wanted her to calm down (Instinct)
211. B/c she "was perfectly calm" (a.k.a she was jealous) (Instinct)
212. B/c despite how much she protests she does care what he does with his love life (Instinct)
213. B/c after their argument he looked stunned (Instinct)
214. B/c she really does care who he "sucks face with" (Instinct)
215. B/c she didn't think that "slutty-anna" was his type (Instinct)
216. B/c Maxima couldn't kill Lois in front of Clark (Instinct)
217. B/c Maxima was threatened by Lois (Instinct)
218. B/c they have a deep connection (Instinct)
219. B/c he would never have been able to pull away from Maxima if he wasn't drawn by his attraction to Lois (Instinct)
220. B/c there's a bond that they don't know about yet (Instinct)
221. B/c he came back to stop Maxima from killing Lois (Instinct)
222. B/c he was concerned about what would have happened to Lois if he hadn't stopped Maxima (Instinct)
223. B/c he knew his destiny was on earth and that Maxima wasn't a part of it (Instinct)
224. B/c he thanked her for showing up when she did and for saving his life (Instinct)
225. B/c she looked nervous when she heard that Maxima said some weird things to Clark (Instinct)
226. B/c he realized that none of the women he's be interested in before were his soulmate (Instinct)
227. B/c she thinks he "can do a little bit better than a man-eating meteor freak" (Instinct)
228. B/c his soulmate has been right in front of him all this time (Instinct)
229. B/c she thinks that "when the right girl walks into his life he'll know" (Instinct)
230. B/c he wanted to know what Maxima said to her (Instinct)
231. B/c she couldn't tell him what Maxima told her (Instinct)
232. B/c he offered her her old room back (Intinct)
233. B/c she winked at him (Instinct)
234. B/c she didn't want to tempt fate (Instinct)
235. B/c For a guy who is invincible, Lois Lane has the power even now to knock him off his feet (Instinct)
236. B/c he came to check on her at the party (Committed)
237. B/c she ordered ‘a Shirley Temple for the lady’ (Committed)
238. B/c He thinks she should pace herself (Committed)
239. B/c "Are you sure your not just jealous your little cousin is beating you to the altar?" (Committed)
240. B/c Clark think she should show support. (Committed)
241. B/c she’s not going to get married until she meets her soulmate (Committed)
242. B/c you can’t always predict who you’re going to end up with (Committed)
243. Because he grabbed her off the chair (Committed)
244. B/c he saved her from completely humiliating herself (Committed)
245. Because when he mentioned meeting someone special he looked at her (Committed)
246. B/c she spent the night at his place (Committed)
247. B/c she woke up in his football jersey (Committed)
248. B/c he took care of her when she was drunk (Committed)
249. B/c she thought that maybe they had sex (Committed)
250. B/c it echoed Crimson (Committed)
251. B/c he was up for the Whitesnake sing-a-long (Committed)
252. B/c he held her hair (Committed)
253. B/c he’s her designated driver (Committed)
254. he drove her back to the Talon (Committed)
255. she wore his plaid shirt (Committed)
256. B/c he came to her rescue (Committed)
257. B/c he’s the sweetest boy she has ever known (Committed)
258. B/c they work together so effortlessly (Committed)
259. B/c he was concerned that she could have been kidnapped too (Committed)
260. B/c she’s one step ahead of him (Committed)
261. He saved her from being hit by a car (Committed)
262. B/c he knew what she was going to say before she said it (Committed)
263. B/c “Clark Kent, will you marry me?” (Committed)
264. B/c they held hands walking into the jewellery store (Committed)
265. B/c ‘A smile now and then won’t kill you’ (Committed)
266. B/c who’s the luckiest girl in the world? Lois is! (Committed)
267. B/c “what about this one, Pumpkin?” (Committed)
268. B/c “anything you want, muffin” (Committed)
269. B/c “don’t get stage fright, Poodle, you’re going to have to do this in front of a packed house sooner than you think” (Committed)
270. B/c “he has performance anxiety” (Committed)
271. B/c he shoved the ring on her finger (Committed)
272. B/c the ring was a perfect fit (Committed)
273. B/c “tell him, Cupcake!” (Committed)
274. B/c “Lois and I are- we’re getting married” (Committed)
275. They left Ollie speechless (Committed)
276. B/c they were friends for so long before one magical night (Committed)
277. B/c they couldn’t deny their feelings any more (Committed)
278. B/c “she has great taste” (Committed)
279. B/c he’s “a very lucky man” (Committed)
280. B/c she called him when she didn’t know what to do (Committed)
281. B/c he was freaking out when she was missing (Committed)
282. B/c he must really care to storm in here like this (Committed)
283. B/c he wanted the madman to let her go (Committed)
284. B/c she begged for his life (Committed)
285. B/c she couldn’t stand to see him get hurt (Committed)
286. B/c he wanted her to just tell the truth (Committed)
287. B/c she couldn’t deny that she loves him (Committed)
288. B/c she looked him in the eyes when she said that she loves him (Committed)
289. B/c he braced himself for the pain, then looked shocked when he realised that she was telling the truth (Committed)
290. B/c “are you all right?” (Committed)
291. B/c he wanted to get her out of there as soon as he could (Committed)
292. B/c they had a hard time looking at each other after her confession (Committed)
293. B/c she was avoiding him (Committed)
294. B/c he forced her to deal with him (Committed)
295. B/c she didn’t trust herself in an elevator alone with him (Committed)
296. B/c he gave her a way out (Committed)
297. B/c he was disappointed when she said she was lying (Committed)
298. B/c they make a great team (Committed)
299. B/c “who knows where we’d be if [he] had answered that question”? (Committed)
300. B/c he wondered where they’d be if he had answered that question too (Committed)
301. B/c it was the single most Clois packed episode ever!!!! (Committed)
302. B/c she complimented him and said he was "no hack"(Identity)
303. B/c she was nervous about Clark going to dinner with her and Jimmy (Identity)
304. B/c his first photographed save was with her (Identity)
305. B/c he doesn't mind being in her shadow (Identity)
306. B/c the UST in that zipper scene was palpable (Identity)
307. B/c she loved every minute of the zipper scene (Identity)
308. B/c he was obviously jealous and she was obviously trying to make him jealous (Identity)
309. B/c he zipped up her dress (Identity)
310. B/c the flashback was even better (Identity)
311. B/c he was staring at her bra (Identity)
312. B/c she makes him stutter (Identity)
313. B/c she makes him nervous (Identity)
314. B/c she put her hand on his chest (Identity)
315. B/c ‘sometimes when a guy likes a girl he asks her out’ hint, hint (Identity)
316. B/c their chemistry is so hot we're surprised it doesn't burn the bullpen down (Identity)
317. B/c she was so flirting with him (Identity)
318. B/c he kept checking out her butt (Identity)
319. B/c he went all Alpha male on her (Identity)
320. B/c he gets so protective of her (Identity)
321. B/c ‘behave your self (Identity)
322. B/c he cleared his throat so as to break up the moment between her and Sebastion (Identity)
323. B/c she didn’t allow them to shake hands. (Identity)
324. B/c she's destined to fall in love with a man who flies and likes to wear tights (Identity)
325. B/c she called Clark when she was in trouble (Identity)
326. B/c he dropped everything to come to her rescue (Identity)
327. B/c she wanted to protect him by not telling him her secret (Identity)
328. B/c he thanked her for looking out for him (Identity)
329. B/c she's a true believer in the red and blue superdude (Identity)
330. B/c it's her new mission in life to get the first worldwide exclusive interview with him (Identity)
331. B/c she wanted to move back in with him (Bloodline)
332. B/c them living and working together would be a carpooler's dream (Bloodline)
333. B/c they have Guitar Hero weekends (Bloodline)
334. B/c he pulled out the crystal and was looking at it right in front of her (Bloodline)
335. B/c he told her to run but she couldn’t leave him (Bloodline)
336. B/c they went to the Phantom Zone together (Bloodline)
337. B/c he ran to her as soon as he saw her (Bloodline)
338. B/c he cupped her cheek in his hand (Bloodline)
339. B/c when she was getting tired he told her, "You're doing great" (Bloodline)
340. B/c he was worried about her when she fell (Bloodline)
341. B/c "All we have to do is keep an eye out for each other ok? We’ll be fine" (Bloodline)
342. B/c he calmed her down (Bloodline)
343. B/c "No one is going to mess with Lois and Clark" (Bloodline)
344. B/c they talked about each other as a unit (Bloodline)
345. B/c he tenderly wiped the blood off of her face (Bloodline)
346. B/c he wanted to send her back no matter what the cost was (Bloodline)
347. B/c he said he'd guard the gate, but Lois was going home (Bloodline)
348. B/c she wanted to stick with him and his right hook (Bloodline)
349. B/c he told her he'd be right behind her and she said he'd better be (Bloodline)
350. B/c when she heard that Clark was in trouble she wanted to go back for him (Bloodline)
351. B/c she wanted to wait for Clark (Bloodline)
352. B/c her first thought after being released from the Phantom Zone was of Clark (Bloodline)
353. B/c he immediately wanted to know if Lois was okay after he got out of the PZ (Bloodline)
354. B/c he can handle Lois (Bloodline)
355. B/c he desperately tried to reach out to Lois while she was possessed (Bloodline)
356. B/c Faora realized that Clark has feelings for Lois (Bloodline)
357. B/c he never said Faora's name once, while she possessed Lois (Bloodline)
358. B/c he wouldn't fight Faora b/c all he could see was Lois (Bloodline)
359. B/c she collapsed on top of him and he hoped she was okay (Bloodline)
360. B/c Clois spend all their time together and everyone knows it (Bloodline)
361. B/c the best part of Lois living on the farm was that Clark could keep on eye on her (Bloodline)
362. B/c he was disappointed that she decided to move out (Bloodline)
363. B/c he's her "knight in shining armor" (Bloodline)
364. B/c he thought that Lois got in trouble b/c she didn't know his secret (Bloodline)
365. B/c Kara thinks that Clark should tell Lois his secret. She said, "Lois is strong. She can handle it. You wouldn't have let her get so close if you didn't think so, too." (Bloodline)
366. B/c Clark agreed with Kara (Bloodline)
367. B/c they recorded a video message for Chloe together (Bride)
368. B/c Clark agreed with Lois before he even knew what she was going to say (Bride)
369. B/c Jimmy wanted to introduce Lois to his friend Clark Kent (Bride)
370. B/c Jimmy thinks Clark annoying Lois is flirtation 101 (Bride)
371. B/c Jimmy’s seen the way they look at each other (Bride)
372. B/c Lois’ hopes rose after talking with Jimmy (Bride)
373. B/c Lois needs to jump Clark’s lilypad and plant one on him (Bride)
374. B/c “Lois and Clark would be great together” (Bride)
375. B/c Clark is her “Mr. Right” (Bride)
376. B/c she lovingly touched his suit and then decked the camera guy for catching it on camera (Bride)
377. B/c he loves to talk about her when she isn’t around (Bride)
378. B/c someday her super stud will come along (Bride)
379. B/c he impressed her with his sweet gesture (Bride)
380. B/c the staircase scene sent us into a series of fangasms (Bride)
381. B/c they couldn’t take their eyes off of each other (Bride)
382. B/c Lois helped him with his cufflinks (Bride)
383. B/c he wasn’t paying attention to her cufflinks lesson, he was drinking in the sight of her instead (Bride)
384. B/c “you just need to stick this part up and then it slides right in” (Bride)
385. B/c she renders him speechless (Bride)
386. B/c when she thought he was talking to her, her face lit up with hope (Bride)
387. B/c he finally realized that he has a shot with her (Bride)
388. B/c she’s completely in love with him (Bride)
389. B/c he was watching her when they were standing by themselves (Bride)
390. B/c he grabbed her hand (Bride)
391. B/c he titled his head and pulled her into a dance (Bride)
392. B/c there was so much UST in that dance scene (Bride)
393. B/c that dance and almost kiss was the most romantic Clois scene we’ve had so far (Bride)
394. B/c when they were bumped into Clark steadied Lois (Bride)
395. B/c he reached down and held her hand (Bride)
396. B/c hellooo? Eye sex much?! (Bride)
397. B/c the way he looks at her makes us swoon (Bride)
398. B/c they can have an entire conversation without saying a word (Bride)
399. B/c when she put her hand on his heart he took a step forward (Bride)
400. B/c they both leaned in for the kiss (Bride)
401. B/c she’s been having feelings for him and she doesn’t know they mean (Bride)
402. B/c her feelings for him just snuck up on her (Bride)
403. B/c there are moments when you can’t deny it (Bride)
404. B/c she thought that someone needed her (Bride)
405. B/c Ollie is sure that he needs her b/c he knows Clark (Bride)
406. B/c Clark asked her how she was holding up at the hospital (Bride)
407. B/c Clark didn’t want her to leave (Bride)
408. B/c he pulled her into a hug when she broke down (Bride)
408. B/c “I promise, we’re going to get Chloe back” (Bride)
409. B/c he’s been looking for inspiration and he’s found it in her heart (Bride)
410. B/c that slow-mo walk away and the look back clearly established Lois and Clark as the couple to root for (Bride)
411. B/c “Don’t take your love away from me” (Bride)
412. B/c he hated watching her walk out of his life and she hated having to leave him (Bride)
413. Because they belong together.. end of freaking story.
skully
05-25-2009, 10:58 PM
Ace review as always, Cedric. I hope you are not so disillusioned that you won't return to give us more reviews next season.
stenochick
05-26-2009, 04:57 AM
Good Point and i like it...But if Clark was actually Kal-El speaking to Chloe...Kal-El wouldnt have been searching for Clois in the first place or given a hoot about Jimmy's Funeral??
I do think it was the real Clark but totally devastated about the Final outcome.
I don't think he was searching for Chloe. I think he wanted to see where it all went down and Chloe happened to be there and saw him and ran to him. When Lex split into Lex and Alexander, both alter egos still had all his memories and relationships.
I guess this has veered into speculation not review of Doomsday. I'll go there and discuss it further.
Fallen One
05-26-2009, 05:06 AM
Cedric welcome back! This place is just not the same without you. Your review is the best part about the whole episode. Fantastic job, as usual.
Thank you Annie. :D Good to be back.
Cedric,
You're a braver man than I am.
I'd rather have all my teeth drilled, then pulled (without anesthetic) than to have to watch Doomsday again (to write a review).
Thanks for another great review!
Thanks cma. That was the second and final time I will ever watch that episode. Does anyone know if electro shock therapy is safe?
Great review, Cedric! That was a fantastic review! It was worth the wait!
Jimmy Olsen was the best part of Doomsday. I'm glad you rated it A+ (the Clark & Jimmy Olsen scene):
I agree with you. My favorite part was when Clark told Jimmy that he was the Red Blue Blur, and then he super-speeded right in front of Jimmy Olsen and Jimmy's awesome lines were, "That is so cool." I also loved the Jimmy & Lois scene!
Thank you very much Joanne. Ah, that Jimmy/Clark scene was really good. Reminded me a lot of Identity. Everytime I think of that scene I feel queasy. This is going to be a long summer as I attempt to regain some passion for this show. Thanks again.
Welcoe back Cedric loved your review.
Always a pleasure hearing from you Lovehurts38, and thanks.
Oh Cedric. That review was well worth the wait. In fact, you may have made my day turn round alot after reading that :)
I just wanted to quote this, because you're top graded episode, was by far the best of the season.
Thats awesome Jade, thank you!:) Ah, that first half was so so good. Only 2 were sort of stinkers, 8 of them were fantastic. I miss those days. I was checking out my previous reviews and I was so happy during the first half. All smiles, all positivity. Then came the Lana arc and it was all downhill from there with only a few great episodes in between.
cedric - that was absolutely hilarious! i was laughing sooo hard!
AND you made good points :D
xxxx
Thanks a lot Olivia! Seeing as this was the finale and that I won't write another one for four months, I wanted to do something special for you all. So I added the scene grades for a more indepth analysis of scenes, the "still to comes" and more satire bits as well. Thats my longest review to date. Glad you liked it.
Great review Cedric. As i said before, it was just like the last Transformers movie. Revenge of the Fallen. I am amazed at how you were able to write it while clutching your stomach from the pain at the same time! Looking forward to Season 9 and your new reviews.
Costas, morphine and vick's vapor rub is a life saver. This was by far the most difficult review to write and the only one where I rewrote more than once just to get it right.
A few of my faves from Cedric's review: "A well fed Bart" "Oh shut up, Chloe" The Joan and Melissa Rivers Red Carpet Interviews! I was laughing so hard I had tears! :rotfl::rotfl:
Ha ha thanks Doris. Yeah, Bart has been eating well hasn't he? lol. He's a little taller and a little thicker. But it was great seeing him again though.
I had some trouble coming up with a good satire intro. I was orginally planning on doing something from historic perspective for everyone, but after I saw the finale that all went out the window. I just came up with the Red Carpet idea yesterday morning actually, but didn't know who I wanted to do the interviews. Then it all came to me - only two celebrities are such camera hounds that they'd actually stomach doing Doomsday interviews - Joan and Melissa. I watch too much TV as you can see.:p
Great review, Cedric. You really brought home all that was wrong with this episode. "Arctic" was better than this.
Thanks David, I'm VERY pleased to see that 309 other people voted this a 1 and sent the message to the PTB. We as fans shouldn't have to settle for such horrible episode just out of loyality for a show. We all love the show and thats why it was painful watching this episode.
As I noted, all the episodes PS wrote this season (Prey, Eternal, Doomsday) had a certain formula. I have no idea what goes through their heads, but all their episodes lack heart and logic that is present when other writers do episodes. Everyone snaps at each other, and the time gaps and retcons are the worst. I hope against hope that they do not write the premiere and finale for next season. ALL the important episodes should go to the best writers, and PS you are not the best writers on the show. Not even close.
So cut the ego PS, and do whats best for the show - let Bryan Miller or Al Septien & Turi Meyer do the premiere and finale. They are the only ones who could even attempt to right this mess you created in Doomsday.
Great Job Cedric as always! It was worth the wait :)
Thank you Nicole!
Great review Cedric and I think your recap of the season in the previously on section is better and more accurate than the one they put in the preview for season 9.
Maybe you can get your hands on some Black K and then you can use it to split the good parts of the finale from the bad? Then you could throw the bad down a deep dark hole never to be seen again, right along with Chloe.
Thanks NoSupeForYou. Sigh.. if only Salma Hayek could mindwipe me with a kiss.
And yeah, I'd love to throw Chloe down a reactor shaft like Darth Vader did Sidious. And then drop a two-tons spike in there after her, then a black mamba snake, and finally lava just to make sure.
AWESOME Review Cedric!!! :D I was literally choking with laughter as I was reading it! :lol::rotfl: I LOVED the Red Carpet part, as well as the scene's grades and the commercial breaks! :lol::rotfl: It's good to have you back! :D
Thanks brother! Its good to be back. Reading you guys' reactions are the best part about doing these reviews. They always make me laugh.:D
Hallelujah! Cedric lives!!!!
I have to admit coughing up a lung at the Star Trek Scotty "I'm giving it all I've got... canna take this bull..." and Lana/Sarah Connor/Kyle Reese bit: "...It absolutely will not stop. Ever..." I think I scared my neighbors for laughing so loud. The cats are definitely slightly traumatized, since there hasn't been a lot of hilarity or happiness on the home front lately. Have to admit to a big time hankering for reading the unedited version, but there's no doubt about the read-it was worthwhile. If only the episode itself were. Sigh.
Doomsday was the most uncliffhanger-y episode. I wish I were on pins and needles, dying to know what is going to happen next, but exactly like Clark and Lois, my fierce need to know just went poof.
Not giving up though. They may have had Clark give up on himself and humanity, but I'm not giving up on him.
Ann darling! Yep I am alive. I haven't given up on humanity either, with the exception of river dancers. I went to the movies a few weeks ago and saw Star Trek so its still fresh in my mind. Same with the Terminator. Lana would make a great T-Pink, wouldn't she? I smell an oscar. And yeah, the cliffhangers sucked in this episode. Geesh, at least Al/Miles knew how to do great premieres and finales.
I've been waiting for this review for over a week and it was well worth the wait! Thank you Cedric for your review! IA on all points!
Ah, you're going to make me cry! This was my favorite scene of the episode...iconic in every way. Thinking about what happened later makes me angry...
Yes, that was the whole fight. The entire Director's Cut was the whole fight. After reading the comic that contains the BIG fight, I was SO disappointed at this...lame fight that didn't even last as long as the Tess/Lois fight (at least that's the way it felt). There was a huge build up to the fight then...you blink, and it's over.
Those were EXACTLY my thoughts in this scene. Chloe became the HERO, a greater than Clark apparently, and Jimmy apologized to her. And then he DIED!!!! I was SO angry at this scene.
:rotfl:
Thank you Cedric! This was a RETCON and Jimmy WAS and IS THE Jimmy Olsen. AA did an amazing job and this scene didn't just break my heart...it ENRAGED me beyond anything this show has ever done in the past. It is because of this scene that I will no longer watch this show.
That Lois was so underused in this episode amazed me. I really didn't expect the Clois scene that fans were promised but I DID expect more Lois. It seems that all mythos characters were dismissed so Chole could shine. :rolleyes:
AGREED and AGREED!!! AA is AMAZING and Jimmy will always be my Jimmy. My favorite JO to date. Nothing can change that, not even this lazy, lame retcon.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Again, thanks for the perspective Cedric! :)
Thanks Julie! Sorry that I kept everyone waiting.
The producers can take their retcon and shove it. AA is Jimmy Olsen no matter what they say. What they did was gutless and I won't forgive them for it. The worse is that he died, the second worst is how he died - praising Chloe's idiotic actions, justfying everything she's done. The producers are on some serious crack if they see her as any kind of hero, much less one as heroic as Clark.
I mean holy freakin crap here, I don't see Lana as a hero at the end of her arc, but at least Lana did save Metropolis from that green-K bomb. Chloe has done the opposite and purposedly endangered lives. I'm truly in Bizarro land if I can sit here and compare Lana's actions to someone else and side with Lana, but these producers leave me no choice with their backwards storytelling and b.s. retcons.
I remember folks joking that the Director's cut for Doomsday was the entire fight, and at the time I was laughing about it. But now that I see that it was I want to burn the CW headquarters. But since I'm not Chloe, I doubt the cops would see me as a hero.
It really is a sad state when they can chase away fans like you. I know there are more who have given up on the show because of this episode. The producers have no one to blame but themselves. Will you still visit the site? :\
Oh Cedric I'm so happy you came out of your cave and were brave enough to write a compelling review even in time of grieving for Jimmy Olsen and the fate of Smallville thats rests in the hands of TPTB :rolleyes:
We all really missed you and thank you so much for your words that make every Smallville episode complete...Yes even Power. I hope you will still be with us. Thanks again for putting things in a different perspective. ;) Take care
Thank you MetropolisGirl. I always appreciate your kind words. :D You aren't getting rid of me just yet, so I'll be back. :p
Ace review as always, Cedric. I hope you are not so disillusioned that you won't return to give us more reviews next season.
Thanks a lot Skully. Next season I'll be back, wearing a helmet.
amalie
05-26-2009, 05:30 AM
Ah Cedric, perfect timing! I just had a quantum mechanics exam and was in dire need of cheering up, your review was perfect for that even if the subject matter is a little dejecting
Yay, Cedric is back!! :D
Hey Tess. It’s me, another one of your head voices. Listen. You should pay Lois more. She deserves it…
Cut it out, Lois.
Oh. I, uh, thought you were sleeping. My bad.
Didn't you see me eating pizza!?
DON'T JUDGE ME!!
Doomsday has made it over and he knows all about the Lana arc. All the review was hilarious, but these just made me laugh for like, ten minutes straight. :rotfl:
"Always, C.K." - Iconic Jimmy Olsen, 7:32 PM.
Scene grade A+: My favorite scene of the episode by far. Almost made me tear up the first time I saw it. It was everything that Jimmy Olsen could have been on this show. It brought back fond memories of Identity and why I loved that episode so much. Damn, the smile Jimmy had on his face when he learned everything was just pure joy. Total fanboyish. When everyone else learned his secret they NEVER gave that type of smile to Clark. Jimmy was different, he always was. And we'll never get another scene like this everybody. That was stripped from us on the day this episode aired.
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After everything this guy's been through you do this to him!? The person he was engaged to lied to him the entire engagement, flirted behind his back, and didn't respect him enough to tell him that she was losing her memories. Then he gets gutted by a beast and put in a coma where she doesn't even visit him. He comes back and she tasers him while he's still sick! She has dinner with the guy who ruined his marriage one week after they separated. And after ALL of this.. you make him worship at her feet and be killed by the same guy who already tried to kill him 3 times already this season!?!?! What kind of show is this?!
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"Henry James Olsen, may you rest in peace" - The worst retcon in the history of Smallville, 7:51 PM
Scene grade: The letter of the day, kids, is F. This was yet another gutless move by gutless producers. And now they'll hide behind DC and avoid all press for a few months until Comic Con. I know Jimmy has said Bartholomew before and even if he didn't, for three years this guy has been calling himself Jimmy Olsen. He worked with Lois at the DP, he was a reporter, he wears a bow-tie, he's dorky, people called him Jimmy, his I.D. said Jimmy, his wedding invitation said Jimmy, press releases by the CW and WB said Jimmy. The first time we saw him in Zod he introduces himself as James Olsen. So this scene fails, not only for this stupid retcon, but because of the message it sends. I as a fan have wasted my time rooting for this guy who, out of left field, wasn't who he said he was. Is Clark's middle name still Joseph? Is Lois' middle name Joanne? I'm just asking just to be sure, you know, cause they may not be who we think they are. There's never been a more despicable move than this retcon.
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Scene grade: D-. No no! Thats not what he should have learned from this! Its not your faith in humanity that is a weakness, Clark. Its that you put your faith in the wrong people, especially that person you was just talking to. If you want to take a stand against relying on human emotions, do it against her and Tess who openly use those emotions against you for evil. As for the <s>Watchtower</s> being a gift to someone like Chloe Sullivan that was stained with Jimmy's blood, I think for the sake of my unborn children I will just finish up this review.
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Clark. I'd say for the majority he was pretty good. He was ready to give his life and while and his plan to get rid of Doomsday worked. So good job by him on that. But they really did it to him this time. Now he carries the guilt of being the one who asked Jimmy to take those fugitives to that building. Add in that he presumes Lois might be dead as well and you get this zombie Clark. The guy's eyes said it all, there wasn't anything there. He did die - he's dead inside. And until he finds Lois he'll stay that way. This metaphoric death could be good if it causes him to make sweeping changes in his life regarding the shady people around him. If it doesn't lead to that then this is just unneccessary angst for nothing.
Lois. Three scenes and gone two minutes before the halfway point. Riddle me this: who.. gets.. a.. cliffhanger.. 18 minutes into a finale!? Answer - Nobody. The whole point of a cliffhanger is that it happens near the end of an episode. This wasn't some guest star, its Lois Lane. PS made sure to get her out of the episode early so that they could devote the last half of the episode to Chlavis/Chloe's rise to sainthood/and the non-fight and ramfications. And they better not have her return with amnesia or any nonsense like that. But who knows? Maybe it'll be a "quintessential" amnesia. Eh?
Jimmy. AA, you were a joy to watch, and you are way too good for this show. He's my Jimmy Olsen. Lois doesn't even know he's dead and when she finds out she won't take it well at all. Oh, and the other elephant in the room.. how are we to believe that when this other kid shows up in 4 years, that Clark and Lois will just take him under their wing all willy nilly? Ah, there I go again thinking too much.
I just had to quote all of this. How I wish the producers would read it. Though, now that I think about it, they would probably laugh for all the wrong reasons.
Fallen One
05-26-2009, 07:55 AM
Thanks Amalie, and hope you aced that exam.. or at least got over a 65!
Thank you thank you Princess Lea. And they would laugh for all the wrong reasons. Terrible, just turrible!
777Flash
05-26-2009, 02:16 PM
Ok
Jimmy can't die. I think it's obvious that Lois comes back via the ring and they redo the episode so Jimmy lives, DD dies, and Jimmy is left out in the dark as to Clark's true identity.
Also, when Clark was split due to Black K, his human dominated side did not lose his powers. Why did Davis? Faux pas on the director's part?
Also, Brainiac infected both Chloe and Lana. What happened to the part of Brainiac that infected Lana?
How can Lex be dead?
Too many questions left by this season.
I've always thought that season beginnings and finales should be 2 hours and this episode just reinforced my thinking.
axisoftime
05-26-2009, 03:35 PM
Cedric-have u ever thought of doing any Superman movie reviews?Or even the animated Superman/Doomsday?
melissan02
05-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Cedric,
I don't how you managed this, as I know it took a lot of guts to re-watch that horrid finale we just experienced, but I just picked out a few things I wanted to comment on...so hope you don't mind.
He tells Clark to stop being naive and admit that there is a darker side of humanity. Clark stares him down and says he's looking at that darker side. Oh snap. Oliver snaps back that not everyone's worth saving and that Davis needs to be stopped. Clark questions if Oliver means murder. Wanted to comment on this part---- as I agree w/ you about enjoying the tension between Ollie and Clark. It helps remind us there are two sides to every coin. Hope we get more hero-friendly tension between these two next season...a working together in different ways to achieve the same goals.
"Don't worry Clark, it won't kill you. It'll just get your ego out of the way long enough for us to do what needs to be done." - A Justice Leaguer to Clark Kent, 7:28 PM. I think this line was spoken to the wrong character! Should have been Chloe!! I don't know...perhaps it's just me, but when I heard "ego", Chloe came to mind!:p
"Always, C.K." - Iconic Jimmy Olsen, 7:32 PM.
Aw man, this is really going to eat at Clark's conscious later. Clark gives a Superman nod, then speeds off in front of Jimmy, as he stares and watches in awe. LOVED this scene.
Scene grade A+: My favorite scene of the episode by far. Almost made me tear up the first time I saw it. It was everything that Jimmy Olsen could have been on this show. It brought back fond memories of Identity and why I loved that episode so much. Damn, the smile Jimmy had on his face when he learned everything was just pure joy. Total fanboyish. When everyone else learned his secret they NEVER gave that type of smile to Clark. Jimmy was different, he always was. And we'll never get another scene like this everybody. That was stripped from us on the day this episode aired. OMG! I've now rated this scene between CK and Jimmy as my all-time favorite scene ever on Smallville! Why? Because of Aaron Ashmore! His reaction just oozed awesomeness! Very ICONIC scene!!! Add in the Superman score-ish music and I knew we were in for something special! And indeed it was!........was.:(
She tells him that this whole time the reason she's been with Davis to protect Clark, and only that. Oh shup up, Chloe. So when you tazered him it was to protect Clark? Right? Poppycock!! WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for pointing this out, as it seems this has been all too conveniently forgotten as of late! Not by me though....not ever!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
Jimmy tells her that his eyes are now opened and he views her as a even bigger hero than Clark. *runs off to hurl just thinking about that scene and these words again*
"Henry James Olsen, may you rest in peace" - The worst retcon in the history of Smallville, 7:51 PM AMEN, brother! AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You were there today Clark, weren't you? I really needed you. Why didn't you come to me?" - Me me me me me me me me me ME, 7:56 PM.
That line right there speaks volumes as to who the focus of this show is about, IMO! And to think....we have another season of this?
"Would someone PLEASE spray her with raid?" - myself, seconds later.:rotfl:
"So because of some psychopath you're going to cut the rest of us out of your life?" - says the woman who hid Davis and pushed everyone away, ran away with Davis, and talked to Davis about starting a new life away from everyone not more than 40 MINUTES AGO, 7:58 PM. Isn't this what Oliver was trying to tell Chloe, but she just knew there was good in Davis?? Now she calls him a psychopath??? Guess she needed confirmation by killing that indeed Davis was psychotic!!! Good grief!!!
I can't wait until she burns an ophanage to the ground next season and be given a purple heart for courageous arson. :lol: Let's just put the suit on her already!
Sorry you had to put yourself through torture again in order to do this review. As I stated on here since this epic failure of a finale aired, I wouldn't have blamed you one bit had you not done a review!
Thanks though---I always enjoy reading them!
NoSupeForYou
05-26-2009, 09:02 PM
If Oliver wanted to kill Davis and didn't want Chloe getting in the way then why did he bring her to the Geothermal Power Plant?
I also love the fact that they completely skipped over how they managed to kidnap Davis in the first place. It's not like his skin can be punctured with a tranquilizer arrow or something. Ollie's plan was as poor thought out and nonsensical as this episode. This was just some of the laziest writing I've ever seen on a tv show; other than Fonzie jumping over a shark in water skis... with his leather jacket on over a pair of bermuda shorts. Of course, that has the excuse of being done at a time when campiness reigned supreme. Smallville has no such excuse.
La Donna
05-26-2009, 10:42 PM
If Oliver wanted to kill Davis and didn't want Chloe getting in the way then why did he bring her to the Geothermal Power Plant?
I also love the fact that they completely skipped over how they managed to kidnap Davis in the first place. It's not like his skin can be punctured with a tranquilizer arrow or something. Ollie's plan was as poor thought out and nonsensical as this episode. This was just some of the laziest writing I've ever seen on a tv show; other than Fonzie jumping over a shark in water skis... with his leather jacket on over a pair of bermuda shorts. Of course, that has the excuse of being done at a time when campiness reigned supreme. Smallville has no such excuse.
Good point. Why did they bring Chloe with them? The only thing I can think of is that Oliver knew at that point that Davis was telling the truth in Beast about Chloe calming him and so bringing Chloe along was for insurance.
A lot about that scene was inconsistent. It made no sense that they would be able to puncture Davis's skin with a tranq dart. Ollie's plan should never have worked and it seemed obvious that it wouldn't work based on what they knew. Yet, they skipped over any realistic and accurate portrayal. And if Tess was tracking them and Jimmy was able to access their location on her computer, than why didn't Tess have people there? And why shoot Chloe with a dart? If you don't want her interfering, leave her. If you want her there but don't want her interfering, then keep her tied up or away from Davis. If you want her there and you want her to be able to calm Davis until they need to "do the impossible deed", then why tranq her at all? They could have just showed up and tranq'd Davis, and then all leave to the plant. If they wanted Chloe, they could have asked her to come or darted her if she said no. She has no powers, so it's not like she could fight back and stop them.
And then, not only are we to believe that they tranq'd Davis and Chloe, and then transported them both the plant, but also tied Davis up and then sort of waited around to kill him. If you managed to knock him out, why not kill him as quick as possible, even before Chloe woke up? And, what the hell was Ollie planning to do with that dart? Everyone knew that Davis had returned to life after being killed. What could the seemingly magic dart do and where did Ollie get it? How did he find out it could work against Davis? If his plan was to murder Davis, why bring Chloe at all when Ollie knew that Chloe was arguing against it? Why did the BC seem to have qualms with burying Davis underground forever until Clark said he was splitting Davis and Doomsday but then go ahead with Ollie's plan to murder Davis?
I could go on and on. The entire Davis/Doomsday situation unraveled starting with Legion. They were building something new and somewhat interesting, and hinted at how this will all come into play later in the season. But, it's like they had a good yet vague idea on where they could take this arc, but they never found a way to resolve it. So, they just flipped it around and left out logical progression, even going so far as to contradict their own arc episode after episode. Man, they failed big time, and it sucks.
SVFancross
05-27-2009, 06:12 AM
A lot about that scene was inconsistent. It made no sense that they would be able to puncture Davis's skin with a tranq dart.
Well the answer to Chloe's presence and this issue of the tranq dart may be one and the same: Chloe "humanized" Davis temporarily (so he can be caught off guard). Now let me caveat -- they were VERY VERY inconsistent on this point. But my suggestion comes from "Beast"; when Clark and Davis are struggling in front of the portal, Davis suddenly starts to lose his strength. There is shock on both faces (Clark and Davis). They turn around and there is Chloe. It certainly looked like her arrival altered his strength. SO, theoretically, the writers may have been given a "rule" that Chloe causes Davis to be human and therefore temporarily vulnerable. As soon as his survival instincts kick in and he beasts-out, then all bets are off. Now, this seems inconsistent with him dying but not dying in Eternal. All I can guess is that again, her effect is temporary and she has to be near by.
Pretty thin excuse, but I don't see why else they had Davis lose strength while fighting Clark in the FoS.
cma_454
05-27-2009, 06:42 AM
But, it's like they had a good yet vague idea on where they could take this arc, but they never found a way to resolve it. So, they just flipped it around and left out logical progression, even going so far as to contradict their own arc episode after episode. Man, they failed big time, and it sucks.
La Donna,
IMHO, that pretty much sums up the second half of this season. A few good episodes, but most of the rest were poorly conceived and/or poorly executed to varying degrees.
The only ‘Cliffhanger’ in Doomsday for me was, how can TPTB fix this mess?
YMMV.
nhl2k
05-27-2009, 06:52 AM
Gave it a 3. I'm sure everyone else has brought these points up, but I'll say them anyway:
1) Why does Smallville think every "boss battle" has to end in 5 minutes? There have been so many season-long villains or finale villains that could have made for great action scenes, only to have them resolved in 5 minutes. Doomsday was once again, NO EXCEPTION. For a season of buildup, this was the biggest letdown I have EVER experienced with this show. To say this for the season finale is very depressing to say the least.
2) Clark is so inconsistent it makes me sick. I swear, they make him change from a BDA to someone who finally accepts what he has to do in the finales, only to reboot to BDA to make another season of drama. I don't know exactly what happened at the end, but even though it seems he's accepting his destiny, I predict he will go back to BDA again. The use black kryptonite vs. don't use black kryptonite killed me. If he keeps changing his mind then they are basically saying he has no clear moral direction on anything.
3) I've loved every season finale of Smallville until last season. The "orb" that was supposed to control Clark instead toppled the FOS (if I even remember this correctly...it was very forgettable) and now this finale? I was never on the edge of my seat once and instead I was wondering the whole episode if this was really the finale.
4) They tried to make Davis seem like a good guy until he started turning into the beast. Then when the black kryptonite splits him, we're supposed to believe that he's now a murderer? Nothing that they showed before he started transforming would have ever hinted at that. They always blamed his murdering on the beast inside. This was clearly contrived to make a "shocking" moment. Instead, it came off as lame. And then he kills Jimmy. Stupid.
Overall, I'm so disappointed I'm not even looking forward to the season premier to find out what happens. It's so sad the direction this show has taken. I'm glad this isn't the only show I watch on TV!
NoSupeForYou
05-27-2009, 02:05 PM
Good point. Why did they bring Chloe with them? The only thing I can think of is that Oliver knew at that point that Davis was telling the truth in Beast about Chloe calming him and so bringing Chloe along was for insurance.
A lot about that scene was inconsistent. It made no sense that they would be able to puncture Davis's skin with a tranq dart. Ollie's plan should never have worked and it seemed obvious that it wouldn't work based on what they knew. Yet, they skipped over any realistic and accurate portrayal. And if Tess was tracking them and Jimmy was able to access their location on her computer, than why didn't Tess have people there? And why shoot Chloe with a dart? If you don't want her interfering, leave her. If you want her there but don't want her interfering, then keep her tied up or away from Davis. If you want her there and you want her to be able to calm Davis until they need to "do the impossible deed", then why tranq her at all? They could have just showed up and tranq'd Davis, and then all leave to the plant. If they wanted Chloe, they could have asked her to come or darted her if she said no. She has no powers, so it's not like she could fight back and stop them.
And then, not only are we to believe that they tranq'd Davis and Chloe, and then transported them both the plant, but also tied Davis up and then sort of waited around to kill him. If you managed to knock him out, why not kill him as quick as possible, even before Chloe woke up? And, what the hell was Ollie planning to do with that dart? Everyone knew that Davis had returned to life after being killed. What could the seemingly magic dart do and where did Ollie get it? How did he find out it could work against Davis? If his plan was to murder Davis, why bring Chloe at all when Ollie knew that Chloe was arguing against it? Why did the BC seem to have qualms with burying Davis underground forever until Clark said he was splitting Davis and Doomsday but then go ahead with Ollie's plan to murder Davis?
I could go on and on. The entire Davis/Doomsday situation unraveled starting with Legion. They were building something new and somewhat interesting, and hinted at how this will all come into play later in the season. But, it's like they had a good yet vague idea on where they could take this arc, but they never found a way to resolve it. So, they just flipped it around and left out logical progression, even going so far as to contradict their own arc episode after episode. Man, they failed big time, and it sucks.
You would think that an unconscious Davis would be easier to kill than a conscious one worried for his safety and Chloe's.
The writers had a beginning and an end, and then completely ignored the middle. This episode was written by the Underpants Gnomes.
dru-zod2501
05-27-2009, 10:12 PM
Definitely the worst finale since Commencement
Claudi-El
05-28-2009, 01:27 AM
Well I kinda liked it. Here's why.
Jimmy's death. I'm a huge Jimmy fan and over this season I've felt for him so much. I think however he got the ending he deserved, a heroes death, in the arms of the girl he loved, protecting her. Yeah it was dissapointing that he wasnt the Jimmy we thought he was, but in retrospect the Jimmy we came to love knew too much, has seen too much and had been hurt too much to be the buoyant, blissfully oblivious, geeky little photographer side-kick in the Superman series. Nice touch using his little brother however. My only will is that he stays dead (call me cruel hearted but I'm sick of miraculous recoveries and memory erases from mere mortals) and that the writers stick to the guns. I'll miss him heaps though.
Davis's end. I've read a lot of people aren't happy with it. I think it was fitting for Davis to be evil however, a darkness can change you. Davis fell in love with Chloe, and the beast turned that into obsession. No matter how good or innocent Davis was, once you've been consumed by darkness you change, and we've seen that a lot in Smallville. Take Lana for example (and I'm no fan of that wingey woman) she was good and all before she got with Lex, and after that she wasn't ever the same. Davis was, and never could be human. Besides, we all know Doomsday's not dead, and it would be a little odd to have his former other human half running around playing paramedic while he kills people.
Clark however annoyed me with his little emotional "face my destiny alone and never return" moment, as he always does. Yeah right Clark whatever, see you tomorrow. Chloe is definitely out of my favourite people list, "did it all for Clark". BS. You just wanted to be a superhero and your emotions just ruined everything and killed Jimmy. It should have been you *pines for Jimmy*
My one wish was that the fight scene was bigger and better. Kind of hard squishing the whole show into 40 mins hence the holes in the plot line. Double episode finales PLEASE.
justme_007
05-28-2009, 07:19 AM
where is the triplet´s review of the episode?
Chloe lost so much in this episode. She is a hero :D
cma_454
05-28-2009, 07:58 AM
where is the triplet´s review of the episode?
Chloe lost so much in this episode. She is a hero :D
Loosing so much might make someone a victim, but I can't see how it would make them a hero.
Joan Rivers: Hello, hello! I'm Joan Rivers here for E Entertainment Television. My daughter Melissa and I are here at the red carpet for the premiere of Smallville's "Doomsday." The theatre was packed with literally ten people and they were all excited. For once, Melissa and I are the most famous people in attendance at an event. Can you believe it? Lets see if we can grab some of the guests as they depart from the theatre.
Crowd boos as Peterson and Souders make their way over with perpetual smiles on their faces. Someone throws a empty coke bottle at their heads.
Joan: Oh, oh! Looks like we have someone approaching. Oh its the producers themselves! Brian Peterson and Kelly Souders! Welcome guys! Initial thoughts on the finale?
Souders: (excited) Incredible!
Peterson: Masterpiece. We really out-did ourselves this time. (looking at the camera) Oohh I hope a oscar isn't in our future. I mean woah! Ha ha.
Jonn Jonnz wearing a paper bag over his head and a fedora walks quickly through the crowd. He spots a camera and runs.
Peterson: (noticing Jonnz running from the back entrance) Hey John! Over here!
Joan: Why is he running?
Souders: Maybe he didn't see us.
Joan: But he pointed right over here.
Peterson: Maybe the finale tugged at his heart strings too much. There wasn't a dry eye in the building, Joan. I cried on the way here while eating a super pretzel in the limo.
Joan: I wouldn't doubt it for a second. Thanks for stopping by, guys. I see we have the stars of the show joining us now, so I'll ask you to step aside. Melissa, down to you.
(Camera switches to another section of the carpet. Melissa Rivers is with Tess)
Melissa Rivers: Thanks, Mom. I'm joined by LuthorCorp CEO Tess Mercer. Hi Tess, initial reactions to seeing it on the big screen?
Tess smiles, puts a napkin in her mouth, and walks away without warning.
Melissa: Holy crap, mom. We can file this under the "Too Much Information" Files. Over to you.
Joan: Thanks Melissa. Tess is such a kidder! Joining us now is the billionaire playboy Oliver Queen. Ollie that was some finale for you and your League!
Oliver: (darting his eyes) Is this a taped broadcast?
Joan: No silly! We're on live with millions of fans watching! Now what are you thoughts. You must have been thrilled with the material you got to work with!
Oliver: Well Joan, I certainly wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it.
Joan: Hold up, you didn't say it.
Oliver: To be honest Joan, I'd rather talk about my upcoming summer movie. Its titled: "One Night in an Arrow." Its about one man's journey to stop shooting people. It co-stars Dick Cheney and the Vienna Boys choir.
Joan: (sarcastically) Well that was certainly interesting. Folks, we have to step away for a word from our spons--
Oliver: (off camera) Whats wrong with your face?
Joan: WHAT!?
Oliver: Your face. Whats wrong with your face.
Long stare.
Joan: We'll be right back.
{Commercial Break...
Clark: You may have heard of Variety, that pill guaranteed to increase that certain part of a man's wardrobe? Now I know what you're thinking. Does it really work? (chuckles) Well.. it definitely does.
Lois: (grinning) Thats because the key ingredient to Variety has been scientifically proven to increase the size to that certain part of a male's wardrobe. Its not a gimmick, its real science.
Clark: Now fabric I didn't care too much about, but color? Now that grabbed my attention.
Lois: I have to admit, when he first told me about Variety and what it did (getting excited) I thought 'Mmmm this could be funnnn!' Maybe we'll get back some of that old spark we had ya know? And maybe people won't point and laugh at us so much when he stops wearing the red jacket to funerals.
Oliver: I've personally had some of my top scientists research the formula in Variety and found it to be truly remarkable. I mean its in a bottle! Who thinks of that!? Anyways we're so sure it'll work we're going to give you a week's supply absolutely free. All you have to pay is shipping which will go directly to our show's budget.
Clark: Now, what are you waiting for? Pick up the phone and dial the number. You have nothing to lose, but a lot to gain. Wait, what did the last part mean?
/Commercial Break}
Joan Rivers: Welcome back gang. I'm now standing by with Chloe and the man for which the episode is titled -Doomsday himself. How are you guys doing this evening? You looked fabulous!
Chloe: Thanks Joan and Chloe knows. Personally, Chloe felt more of herself could have been used. Five scenes just aint what it used to be. Also the help could have been more useful. Chloe can't carry the show all the time.
Joan: Oh you're such a kidder! Anyway, Doomsday how did ya feel about the big throw-down with Clark?
Doomsday: (stares ahead for three minutes before crying uncontrollably)
Joan: Well, uh.. the producers said there wasn't a dry eye in the house. I guess this is what they meant.. Ooh! Melissa I hear the crowd murmuring. Someone almost as important as Chloe must be heading your way.
Jimmy exits the theatre. He has a blank expression on his face and can't stop shaking his head.
Melissa: There sure is mom! Jimmy! Ladies and Gentlemen here's the man of the hour, Mr. Jimmy Olsen.
Jimmy looks over to Kelly Souders who makes a slow throat cutting gesture
Jimmy: (to Melissa) I think you mean Henry.
Melissa: Ha ha, exactly Jimmy. Now. Our fans desperately want to know how you felt about your death. That was quite a dramatic moment! You saved Chloe who will now go on to defeat poverty with her love. You must be thrilled!
Jimmy: (glancing from Souders to Melissa) I honestly can't tell you how that makes me feel, Melissa.
Souders: (matter of factly) And your innocent family must be thrilled too, Henry.
Jimmy: Yes, yes they are. Everyone is thrilled.
Melissa: Finally! Someone happy with the episode. Well, we'll let you get out of here and celebrate! Congratulations on dying for Chloe and much success in the future! Back over to you mom. I understand you're standing there with the mega stars.
As Jimmy exits, the camera pans to Clark and Lois, almost emotionless.
Joan: Thanks darling! Its my pleasure to be joined by our final guests of the evening - Clark Kent and Lois Lane! I tell you, guys, after seeing how long its taking you two to get together, I don't feel so old! Ah ha ha! I'm kidding! Oh grow up! Can we talk?
Lois: Sure Jim, but who are you going to talk to? Clark is dead and Lois vanished.
Only Peterson starts laughing.
Joan: I'm Joan. And I don't get it. The both of you are standing right in front of me.
Lois: Nevermind. It was a bad finale joke.
Joan: Clark, I must say, you look dressed up tonight. You're well known in most circles for your, uh, interesting taste in fashion. In fact, fashion critic Mr. Blackwell has gone on record and said he would kill you if he had the chance. I'm sure after such a controversial episode that you have many thoughts running through your mind. Our fans want you what are your thoughts on the season finale?
Clark: Absolutely Joan. I have a written a message that I'd like to read now if thats OK. (clearing throat) I do not like green eggs and ham. I do not like them - Sam I am --
Joan: (cutting him off) You have got to be kidding me.
The crowd roars in the background.
Joan: Oh my God. It…it can't be. What the hell?!
Oliver dressed in his Green Arrow gear has climbed a SUV to the roars of the crowd
Melissa: (screaming) Ow! Mom he's shooting at me!
Oliver: (dramatically yelling) You wanted the arrows, baby! You ... needed the arrows, baby!
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Joan: (panicking) Folks this is Joan Rivers. On behalf of myself and Melissa for E Entertainment signing off. See you all next season!
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Oh, Cedric! This is gold! :rotfl:
And the rest of your review was more enjoyable than the finale itself. Nuff said. :cool:
triplet
05-28-2009, 08:07 AM
where is the triplet´s review of the episode?
Chloe lost so much in this episode. She is a hero :D
My review's up:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/doomsdayreview.htm
It wasn't the best season finale ever, but I didn't hate it either. It was more or less enjoyable, despite a couple WTF moments.
I gave it a 4.
As for Chloe? Hero? I'm not sure I'd completely agree with that, but Allison delivered a remarkable performance. It was very touching.
tibbit78
05-28-2009, 08:51 AM
My review's up:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/doomsdayreview.htm
It wasn't the best season finale ever, but I didn't hate it either. It was more or less enjoyable, despite a couple WTF moments.
I gave it a 4.
As for Chloe? Hero? I'm not sure I'd completely agree with that, but Allison delivered a remarkable performance. It was very touching.
The finale made me cry, losing Jimmy Olsen!! That was terrible!! It was not my favorite finale at all. It was my least favorite.
triplet
05-28-2009, 11:48 AM
The finale made me cry, losing Jimmy Olsen!! That was terrible!! It was not my favorite finale at all. It was my least favorite.
I'd still give that honor to Arctic, but your mileage may indeed vary.
I don't know, I hadn't expected them killing Jimmy, but I still didn't mind it too much.
as I said in my review, he was Jimmy in name only, he little resembled his comic book counterpart.
mr lane
05-28-2009, 12:09 PM
I'd still give that honor to Arctic, but your mileage may indeed vary.
I don't know, I hadn't expected them killing Jimmy, but I still didn't mind it too much.
as I said in my review, he was Jimmy in name only, he little resembled his comic book counterpart.
but isnt it safe to say that most of the SV characters dont match their comic book counter part?
i think the Jimmy thing was a big cop out, his age wasn't as big of a deal as other things that havent lined up with the mythos
justme_007
05-28-2009, 12:23 PM
Loosing so much might make someone a victim, but I can't see how it would make them a hero.
Well, jimmy knows why ;)
costas22
05-28-2009, 12:33 PM
I'd still give that honor to Arctic, but your mileage may indeed vary.
I don't know, I hadn't expected them killing Jimmy, but I still didn't mind it too much.
as I said in my review, he was Jimmy in name only, he little resembled his comic book counterpart.
Triplet i liked your review as usual. You mentioned above wtf moments. May i ask if you consider Davis' psycho turn one of them? That was one of the things that bothered me a lot because throughout the season, they were intent on emphasizing that Davis was a tragic character who was a victim of his dark side. Why would he react like this the minute he was free from Doomsday? I thought that was an unnecessary move to pile the guilt on Clark.
justme_007
05-28-2009, 12:38 PM
Triplet i liked your review as usual. You mentioned above wtf moments. May i ask if you consider Davis' psycho turn one of them? That was one of the things that bothered me a lot because throughout the season, they were intent on emphasizing that Davis was a tragic character who was a victim of his dark side. Why would he react like this the minute he was free from Doomsday? I thought that was an unnecessary move to pile the guilt on Clark.
I completely agree with you costas in this point
triplet
05-28-2009, 12:43 PM
Triplet i liked your review as usual. You mentioned above wtf moments. May i ask if you consider Davis' psycho turn one of them? That was one of the things that bothered me a lot because throughout the season, they were intent on emphasizing that Davis was a tragic character who was a victim of his dark side. Why would he react like this the minute he was free from Doomsday? I thought that was an unnecessary move to pile the guilt on Clark.
I didn't see that as a WTF moment, not really.
Davis I think had slowly been driven insane by being Doomsday. He wakes up and there's all this blood and all these bodies and he has to hide them.
That must have scarred his psyche.
He thought the one thing good in life was Chloe and to find out she lied to him? She protected him and helped not because she loved him, but because she was protecting Clark?
Man.
I think I woulda snapped too.
I thought Sam did a beautiful job playing that change in Davis in that scene. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear on that, I had a tough week last week and I just wanted to finish it so when I got down the actors I didn't put in much detail there.
I think Clark takes on guilt for almost any reason. I don't think he felt guilt because Davis snapped, it was because he could have stopped him (killed him) when he had a chance and didn't do it.
He should have trapped him in the Phantom Zone when he had the chance. After Tess destroyed that crystal and took away that as an option, he probably should have killed Doomsday to save thousands or even millions of others.
If you had the chance to kill Hitler before he killed millions, if killing him was the only way to stop him, would you? Would Superman?
The thing is, Superman always believes the best in people and even in the comics he hesitates to use deadly force, he's always pulling his punches even when it's clear how tough an opponent really is, and then when things go wrong and innocent people die despite his best intentions, he always feels guilty about it.
People always complain about that, but Clark/Superman is like that in the comics too. Maybe he isn't quite as wrapped up in guilt, but there tends to be a lot more action and less introspection in the comics.
It didn't really bother me. It gives Clark something really hard to deal with at the beginning of next season.
This season he balanced his heroism with his life as a reporter.
Next season it looks like he's going to have to learn to balance his humanity with his alien-ness.
I think the humanity will eventually come back, because that's the thing with Superman: he's more humane than most humans. He has more empathy and compassion than someone with his powers would be if they were human.
For me, that's what's so great about him.
costas22
05-28-2009, 12:48 PM
I didn't see that as a WTF moment, not really.
Davis I think had slowly been driven insane by being Doomsday. He wakes up and there's all this blood and all these bodies and he has to hide them.
That must have scarred his psyche.
He thought the one thing good in life was Chloe and to find out she lied to him? She protected him and helped not because she loved him, but because she was protecting Clark?
Man.
I think I woulda snapped too.
I thought Sam did a beautiful job playing that change in Davis in that scene. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear on that, I had a tough week last week and I just wanted to finish it so when I got down the actors I didn't put in much detail there.
I understand him being heartbroken over it and even snapping. But killing in cold blood? That befuddles me. I also believe that Doomsday was slowly chiping away at his humanity but it still felt a bit forced. I think Sam also had an issue with this particular end to his character and had a talk with Kelly and Brian about it, but they were adamant that this was the way to go. Anyway, you can always go back to compliment Sam in your review for next season's premiere. I enjoyed his acting a lot this year. It's a shame to lose him.
triplet
05-28-2009, 12:59 PM
I understand him being heartbroken over it and even snapping. But killing in cold blood? That befuddles me. I also believe that Doomsday was slowly chiping away at his humanity but it still felt a bit forced. I think Sam also had an issue with this particular end to his character and had a talk with Kelly and Brian about it, but they were adamant that this was the way to go. Anyway, you can always go back to compliment Sam in your review for next season's premiere. I enjoyed his acting a lot this year. It's a shame to lose him.
Well, I liked Sam a lot but I couldn't really see using him next year after what happened.
Once he's no longer Doomsday, what's the point of Davis?
costas22
05-28-2009, 01:07 PM
Yes, his storyline did run out. It's just sad to lose good actors. We have lost many of them in the past 12 months.
InactiveUserID
05-28-2009, 01:23 PM
Well, I liked Sam a lot but I couldn't really see using him next year after what happened.
Once he's no longer Doomsday, what's the point of Davis?
I like Sam better on Reaper. Don't really watch Smallville.
As proof of that, if asked to direct an episode, my top priority would be to bring the General Lee car over from Dukes of Hazzard into Smallville so Clark's dad could jump it over a ditch only this time it wouldn't ever come down because Superman would be underneath making it fly.
NoSupeForYou
05-28-2009, 01:37 PM
Well I kinda liked it. Here's why.
Jimmy's death. I'm a huge Jimmy fan and over this season I've felt for him so much. I think however he got the ending he deserved, a heroes death, in the arms of the girl he loved, protecting her. Yeah it was dissapointing that he wasnt the Jimmy we thought he was, but in retrospect the Jimmy we came to love knew too much, has seen too much and had been hurt too much to be the buoyant, blissfully oblivious, geeky little photographer side-kick in the Superman series. Nice touch using his little brother however. My only will is that he stays dead (call me cruel hearted but I'm sick of miraculous recoveries and memory erases from mere mortals) and that the writers stick to the guns. I'll miss him heaps though.
So New Jimmy wouldn't at all be traumatized by his older brother being impaled by the guy being protected by the woman who his brother supposedly loved and who gave him that camera at the funeral? Yeah, I know it's not clear how much everybody knows about what happened, but he didn't look like a bubbly little kid to me and he would have to be in the deepest denial to grow into the fun, naive Jimmy we all know.
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where is the triplet´s review of the episode?
Chloe lost so much in this episode. She is a hero :D
Sorry, but I fail to see where she is a hero. I see her as complicit in Jimmy's murder by Davis because of her actions over the last few episodes. Aiding and Abetting, yes, hero, no way.
triplet
05-28-2009, 02:17 PM
but isnt it safe to say that most of the SV characters dont match their comic book counter part?
i think the Jimmy thing was a big cop out, his age wasn't as big of a deal as other things that havent lined up with the mythos
Well, like I said in my review, other things have been bigger breaches of canon, why try to fix this one?
Mxzyptlk being a foreign exchange student from some Eurotrash country with his slightly creepy vibe was kinda cool, I actually liked him, but he wasn't anywhere close to the same dimension (pun intended) as the comic book version of the little purple-bowler-wearing imp from the 5th dimension.
I didn't mind them killing Jimmy really, I sorta like that we'll eventually get (in some far off distant future) a purer version of Jimmy, but why the retcon? Why use him at all if that was the caveat?
I don't get it, but in the end I didn't mind him dying. Maybe it was because I sorta saw it coming when they had that great scene between Clark and Jimmy.
*That's* the Jimmy we should have had the whole time. A wide-eyed, earnest, awed-by-Clark kid.
Yes, his storyline did run out. It's just sad to lose good actors. We have lost many of them in the past 12 months.
Yeah, I can't see Davis coming back, so we miss out on getting the benefit of Sam's performances.
He's a Juliard trained actor, so he's up there with some of the best, so it's sad to see him go, but maybe he'll move onto bigger and better things.
I like Sam better on Reaper. Don't really watch Smallville.
As proof of that, if asked to direct an episode, my top priority would be to bring the General Lee car over from Dukes of Hazzard into Smallville so Clark's dad could jump it over a ditch only this time it wouldn't ever come down because Superman would be underneath making it fly.
Huh?
:confused:
If you want to talk any Sam from other TV shows, actually my favorite Sam was Sam Beckett from Quantum Leap.
I wanted him to go home so badly at the end of the series.
However, in terms of the Sam I was just talking about, I meant the actor who played Davis, Sam Witwer.
There has never been a character named 'Sam' on Smallville, so I guess you really don't watch the show....
:rolleyes:
mr lane
05-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Well, like I said in my review, other things have been bigger breaches of canon, why try to fix this one?
Mxzyptlk being a foreign exchange student from some Eurotrash country with his slightly creepy vibe was kinda cool, I actually liked him, but he wasn't anywhere close to the same dimension (pun intended) as the comic book version of the little purple wearing imp from the 5th dimension.
I didn't mind them killing Jimmy really, I sorta like that we'll eventually get (in some far off distant future) a purer version of Jimmy, but why the retcon? Why use him at all if that was the caveat?
I don't get it, but in the end I didn't mind him dying. Maybe it was because I sorta saw it coming when they had that great scene between Clark and Jimmy.
*That's* the Jimmy we should have had the whole. A wide-eyed, earnest, awed-by-Clark kid.
well i had a theory of why they brought jimmy in that i posted in another thread
so the whole death of jimmy thing got me thinking
why did the show even bring jimmy in if they knew they were just going to have to write him off in some point?
well Jimmy first came in during Zod in season 6 right? but why?
so then i thought, what happened in season 5 vessel?
Clark and Chloe kissed which i have to say i was squeeing at that moment
I mean Lana did her thing with Lex it was only natural that Clark should distrust her and maybe try to find a relationship with someone else
which would made it logical for him and Chloe to hook up especially after that kiss
but then they just dismiss the whole thing by bringing in Jimmy?
so my question is did they only bring Jimmy in as a scapegoat for the stop on the Chlark relationship?
now don't read into this post and think i want a Chlark relationship because at this point I dont but I think it could have worked in the earlier seasons when it was too soon for a Clois romance
triplet
05-28-2009, 02:32 PM
well i had a theory of why they brought jimmy in that i posted in another thread
so the whole death of jimmy thing got me thinking
why did the show even bring jimmy in if they knew they were just going to have to write him off in some point?
well Jimmy first came in during Zod in season 6 right? but why?
so then i thought, what happened in season 5 vessel?
Clark and Chloe kissed which i have to say i was squeeing at that moment
I mean Lana did her thing with Lex it was only natural that Clark should distrust her and maybe try to find a relationship with someone else
which would made it logical for him and Chloe to hook up especially after that kiss
but then they just dismiss the whole thing by bringing in Jimmy?
so my question is did they only bring Jimmy in as a scapegoat for the stop on the Chlark relationship?
now don't read into this post and think i want a Chlark relationship because at this point I dont but I think it could have worked in the earlier seasons when it was too soon for a Clois romance
That was my point in the review... if they couldn't use him to the full extent why bring him in at all?
I dunno, but maybe it's just as well (for me anyway). I wasn't happy with what they were doing with him this season.
Maybe the retcon needed to be done so they had to completely break down his character, totally destroy him, in order to redeem him in the end.
He became more like he should have been the whole time this last episode...
I'm confused, but maybe it'll make more sense come next season.
mr lane
05-28-2009, 02:35 PM
That was my point in the review... if they couldn't use him to the full extent why bring him in at all?
I dunno, but maybe it's just as well (for me anyway). I wasn't happy with what they were doing with him this season.
Maybe the retcon needed to be done so they had to completely break down his character, totally destroy him, in order to redeem him in the end.
He became more like he should have been the whole time this last episode...
I'm confused, but maybe it'll make more sense come next season.
yeahh the later half of this season was making me confused at jimmy's action and when they killed him off it made sense but not really lol
i guess it just kind of scares me to think what they might do with other characters now that they pulled the switch on Jimmy :eek:
Noxrider
05-28-2009, 09:27 PM
Read a few of the posts here, so if I happen to repeat anything, I apologize in advance.
Things I hated: pacing -- definitely an attempt to cover too much ground in one episode. Direction for the Jimmy Olsen character, from S6 to now: AA did a great job, but other than looks, this character isn't the JO we know -- they've tried to use him as an "interrupt" to several storylines, and it just hasn't worked. Clark/DD fight: If this is a pre-empt to a future fight with DD, I'm on board. Otherwise, just too weird and cropped to death in this ep.
Things I think worth considering: we've reached a place in this telling of the Superman story where a "letdown" season finale can be explored. IMO, Smallville S8 reminds me of a LOT of the elements in Buffy:TVS S6...sort of giving us a look at how bad life can get for our characters. If you happen to be a fan of B:TVS, take some notes. It's all very mundane, and for fans (like most of us) of this type of drama, it feels like a letdown because a lot seems too...plain. Dull. Minimalistic. That comment being made, this will probably go down as one of the least-enjoyed SF's of the series. However, I have some degree of hope that a major turnabout is in the works for the opening of S9.
Things I liked: Clark speaking about a loss of faith in humanity. I don't think that's a permanent change, but rather something he'll come to terms with. It's in sync with most heroic tales...there's this place where the hero loses focus, drive, and ambition...then some later encounter re-energizes him, and he becomes all the stronger for having gone through that process. Maybe he'll understand Oliver better, and get off his own personal high horse a bit. THAT would be a welcome change. The end of Chloe/Davis and Chloe/Jimmy: Not rooting for anything like a Chlark here, but I think if Chloe is going to be of continued use, she's going to have to fill some other role than "the love partner of". I'm waiting for her to sacrifice herself for the greater good. I'm not solid on every bit of Superman history, but isn't Chloe a new element that has just made us fall in love with her again and again? She's one of my favorite characters in the series, but she's not canon. I don't want her to die, mind you...but that doesn't change the fact that I think she will, regardless.
So, to summarize, I didn't care much for this as either an episode OR a SF. That doesn't mean it's not art in progress. I do feel, though, as though the writers are trying to take us to many different and amazing places, and that they probably are trying to cliffhanger too many things for Season 9 all at once, leading to HORRIBLE pacing this go-round.
When we see the results of Season 9, I'm betting that several naysayers here will at least look at this whole weirdo season with a sense of appreciation. Maybe I'm just naive, but we've seen this before, and often near the end of a series. My verdict: holding out for S9, but for now, calling this one a bland 4/10. If we get some true "ah...that's the THING" moments in S9, maybe this one can be rated more respectably.
Crowbonze
05-29-2009, 10:18 AM
OK, where do we start, the fact that Doomsday looks cheesey, or the death of Jimmy,, for starters, no where in all of Superman lore do you kill off Jimmy, he is a supporting charachter, and he's Supermans Pal,what were the writers thinking, have they totally ignored research?, and the doomsday battle has always been refferred to as Epic, but this was a football rush through an explosion, something they both could have sneezed at and created more damage, wheres the traditional Doomsday slugfest?
The Lois, Mercy , catfight was cute and then over to quick, and where did futureboy go?
The darker red coat at the end, symboilic of what? just like the cape in the Routh movie.
This could have been much better written, the Actors all were at the top of their game, the wrighters need to pay more attention to those who appreciate Superman lore enough to know a hackjob when they see it.
So much for my 2 cents worth.
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I love your Whimsickle approach to this, the rest of us "Nerds" take it to seriously, myself included
freakinsuper
05-31-2009, 05:30 AM
Clark can not kill doomsday i think it will plan A send him to phantom zone or another Dimension or the justice league from the future will have to step inn again.If louis dispeared in to the future or past will have something 2 do with the out come.I do agree that the final cud have been much better and doomsday does not look so good they cud have made him better and with all the special effects they have there not using there full potential and needs to be more imaginative.
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clark can not kill doomsday i think it will plan a send him to phantom zone or another dimension or the justice league from the future will have to step inn again.if louis dispeared in to the future or past will have something 2 do with the out come.i do agree that the final cud have been much better and doomsday does not look so good they cud have made him better and with all the special effects they have there not using there full potential and needs to be more imaginative.
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Dominicus
06-02-2009, 01:28 AM
Sigh. If Smallville got the red carpet treatment for this episode it would be even worse. Well, another year has passed. We've been through a lot together. Clark started working at the Planet with Lois, poor Brianiac got infected by Chloe, Lana heroically got a wig, and then Doomsday became a pet. And now, here it is. The last Smallville episode for 4 months. And what a episode it was. I use to complain that the ATMs at 7-Elevens were bad but after this episode I vow never to say another word about them again. So one more time, lets do this. You down, I said are you down? I'm down, the ratings are down. Lets go. Lets get it on. God help me..
Previously on Smallville!
Three kids from the future came back wearing 21st century pleather, Watchtower is online - and it has a virus, Tess became Clark's enemy, Jimmy married the wrong beast, the second half took a turn for the boring, Oliver blew up pirate Lex, Clark got his life on track, Rokk warned Clark about a 1 minute fight, Tess lost her mind and did it again because it felt good.
Doomsday
We open on the skyline of Metropolis as a blue streak flies through the CGI buildings. How I wish this was a meteor stuffed with nuclear warheads, but it turns out to be Rokk who Clark meets on the roof of the Daily Planet. Cosmic Rokk looks grim as he hopes he isn't too late to prevent the future from being erased. That doesn't compute for Clark since the threat of Brainiac was taken care of but the problem isn't Brainiac, its that Superman has been erased from history because of Chloe's existence and brain-dead actions. Instead of saying "Oh, well.. you get the chainsaw and I'll bring the beer" Clark responds with an annoying declaration that he wouldn't take back saving Chloe.
Rokk gives him another Legion ring and tells him to send Doomsday to the future where the Legion are prepared to battle him, but that offer is turned down by Clark who believes he can save the timeline. Rokk gets annoyed and makes clear that there's nothing on Earth that could prevent his death, but Clark looks at him and specs that maybe his destiny is to do this on his own terms. He asks how long does he have before it happens, and Rokk says that the next day will be Clark's last. If they were on another network, you bet.
Scene grade: B-. My only regret is that my cable box didn't explode right here so that I could come on and say the finale was pretty good. It says a lot that the Legion were willing to give their lives just so Clark wouldn't die, but you have to think that Rokk wanted to slap Clark with frozen Cauliflower as he watched him decide to ignore everything he was told. Will Clark's proactiveness backfire? If you don't know the answer, go stand in the corner.
Opening Credits. The lyrics to these credits and this particular episode should get married, have kids, and get a 401K plan.
Edge City. Chloe and Davis lay on the hood of Davis' car, talking about constellations after eating fast food. Chloe questions a particular observation and Davis explains the Greek tale of Demeter's daughter Persephone who was taken by Hades to the underworld and when given a chance at freedom, chose to stay in hell to be with the kidnapper she loved. I dunno man, that kinda sounds like she's looking for a commitment. Davis turns to Chloe and asks if they really are going to get away with everything and start a life together. She tells him that they will unless the cops catch them first as she and Davis exchange slightly worried looks.
Scene grade: D-. Just what was this? Firstly, Taco Bell isn't even open that late. Secondly, just what kind of psycho sits and talks about a lady deciding to trap herself in hell for eternity? A useless scene really. And shut up, Chloe.
Luthor Mansion. Tess asks if her goons have a trace on tweedle dee and tweedle doom. Roger that Tess, but the guard nervously explains that they have one minor problem - a hole the size of Delta Burke is now in her metal door. Tess is beside herself as the guard explains that the security system went down only for a few seconds and that the explosion happened from inside the safe room. She barks at him about the 'lives at stake' and commands them to find the orb immediately. And this is where I would get killed if I worked for Tess. Just how do you suppose they do that, Tess? Does Radioshack sell orb detectors?
Scene grade: C. OK scene, but short. I guess that orb had to be mentioned at some point, and I do get why Tess would assume someone took the thing. But still, she's is out of her mind if she thinks a grown man is going to go around searching in dog houses for a freakin orb with people watching them and pointing. TMZ would be all over that.
Oh my God! Oh my God! Lois! How many times do I have to tell you?! Don't wash the flannel or the jacket!
But Clark, they smelled.
Damnit! Now I have to break them in again. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm gonna need a marker, a protractor, and three bags of Cheetohs. Go get them now.
Ok.. but why do you need Cheetohs??
Just go get them!!!
Daily Planet. A depressed Clark stares at the Legion ring before placing it into his desk drawer. He goes back to typing out a goodbye letter addressed to the citizens of Metropolis. As he finishes, Lois barks at him for not doing enough to find Chloe. Clark calmly assures her that is and they do the whole "no I love Chloe more" crap that makes me want to run over compact cars. Noticing the look on Clark's face, Lois calms a bit and seems concerned but Clark closes the letter before she reads it. Annoyed, she walks over to get some coffee and gets a phone call from Clark as the Blur.
He tells her he's been searching for Chloe and keeping tabs on Lois. She rambles that she didn't know how to contact him, finally thanking him for his help. Clark asks for a favor and speeds in to give her his letter, asking that she publish it for him. Lois looks around to see if he's anywhere in the basement, then reads the letter. He asks again will she publish it if something happens to him and Lois, having read a portion of it, seems worried about whats going on. Clark tells her that even he can't escape his destiny, that he's not as invulnerable as they thought.
Seeing that this may be the end, she wants to meet him in person to see his face. Clark's reluctant but she insists that he can trust her. She suggests a certain phone both and asks that they meet the next night at midnight. Clark doesn't give a yes or no, he just leaves it open as she says she hopes he'll be there. Then she thanks him again to end the scene.
Scene grade: B-. Above average scene. Usually scenes between my two favorite characters are a guaranteed A for me but I'm conflicted with this scene. I didn't like the way Lois and Clark interacted with each other at a time when they needed each other the most. I liked the RBB/Lois talk but wasn't exactly wowed by it. I'm OK with this being a fascination or a crush, but the difference in her tone made it seem like she feels more connected to the Blur than with Clark. This is the first episode this season written by PS that Lois was in and I see now that it was a good thing because they suck at writing romance.
Still to come: Whats the best way to please you as a fan? Now laugh at that and imagine the complete opposite.
Commercial Break. The upcoming Transformers Movie has me so bugged out that I'm spending my nights running through parking lots and beating cars with a bat. Who knows which ones are ready to spring to life and kill me. I see commercials. I know the risks.
Kent Farm. A still stoic Clark stares out the window as Dinah and a well-fed Bart arrive for a meeting. Bart is asked for certain schematics he was suppose to steal and he produces them so that Clark can lay everything out for them. The target - a LuthorCorp owned geothermal facility. The plan - lead Doomsday to the facility using a trail of Chloe-shaped cookies, then bury him under the Earth and blow the place. Bart seems to like it and Dinah thinks its risky but is on board. When asked if the threat will be taken care of once and for all, Clark gives Bart a box of Black-K and says that the human part of Davis is worth saving and will be split.
A voice interrupts the love fest and asks what if that doesn't work. Its Oliver and he questions if Clark's decision would strip Dooms of his humanity and make him unstoppable. Fair concern I think. Clark tenses up and tells him its the only way but Ollie has another plan. He suggests that they take off their shirts and kill Davis before he dooms out ..or kill Davis before he dooms out and remove their shirt in celebration. Whichever way is most convenient. He tells Clark to stop being naive and admit that there is a darker side of humanity. Clark stares him down and says he's looking at that darker side. Oh snap. Oliver snaps back that not everyone's worth saving and that Davis needs to be stopped. Clark questions if Oliver means murder.
Bart nervously tries to get them to calm down but Dinah wants to know exactly what Clark's last comment meant. Oliver signals to Clark not to answer, but its doesn't work. Without blinking, Clark reveals to them all that Ollie killed Lex. Cold blooded! Oliver lowers his voice in anger and tells him he just made a big mistake. Clark declares that he isn't "one of them" anymore, and Oliver turns to walk away.
Scene grade: C+. It was good to see Bart back and, considering the PZ option is off the table, I liked the plan Clark came up with to get rid of Doomsday. I've already mentioned in previous reviews that I like scenes that amp up the Ollie/Clark tension because I like seeing stubborn heroes find a way to achieve the same goals, but there's a limit to that. What I don't like seeing is them being written to be enemies. The problem with this scene is the same I voiced last week concerning Clark and Oliver. If Clark found out Chloe murdered Sebastian would he expose her in front of all her.. well, 1 or 2 friends? No, I don't think he would have. I also felt it was very presumptuous of him to believe that Dinah and Bart would just forsake Oliver who they are closer to and have followed for years, and start following his lead when he isn't even a JL member.
You know, all you aliens are starting to look alike.
Mr. Peterson thats extremely offensive.
Why? Because you don't think so?
No sir. Because I'm Jimmy Olsen.
Daily Planet. Jimmy sneaks into Tess' office, bluetooth in ear. He's told by Oliver to report anything he finds, but the first thing he finds is Lois under Tess' desk. Before he gets a devilish grin on his face, she ends all notion of romance and punches him in the junk. Is this woman awesome or what? After Jimbo gets the feeling back in his arms, Lois explains that she snuck into Tess' office to find out if she knew where Mary Poppins and Satan were located, but couldn't crack the encryption. Never fear, bowling shirt man is here! A magical flash drive later and Jimmy is in. He unlocks a few files that lead to a satalite image with two red dots. Could be two can openers at the bottom of the ocean for all we know, but Jimmy immediately reasons its the insane duo.
He quickly leaves to tell Oliver while Lois stays behind to do a little internet browsing of the PG-13 variety. She opens a video feed that shows Regan getting smacked in the face with a purse or the wing of giant penguin. He groggily tells Tess that whatever she's up to is no use since Lex tried and failed in getting anything out of the orb. Straight from psychoville, Tess lays it all out for Lois; admitting that the orb is alien, that she hears voices, and that a life inside of it can't come forth until the Traveler kills the beast. Regan tells Tess that what she's unleashing could destroy the world. In possible related news, this episode damn near destroyed this show.
Scene grade: B-. I really liked the Lois/Jimmy portion of this scene and everytime I watch it I get a lump in my throat because thats the last scene they'll have together. They played off each other so well. I should also mention that this marks the first time that Lois has officially had her suspicions verified about aliens existing, but I would only expect that to be acknowledged by actual good writers.
Downstairs, Clark receives audio from Canary saying she found Tweety bird and Sylvester and uploads the image for him. Clark focuses his super-hearing on the audio and hears the beast and Davis cry for naught as the JL run them over with a bus. He speeds off to Edge City. Once there, he finds Davis' car totaled with signs of a struggle. He turns to see a nervous Dinah and Bart who apologize to him in advance. Before he makes sense of it, a green-K dart nails him in the back and he turns to see the Green Arrow. Clark shrieks to the ground in pain as they walk over to him.
"Don't worry Clark, it won't kill you. It'll just get your ego out of the way long enough for us to do what needs to be done." - A Justice Leaguer to Clark Kent, 7:28 PM.
Scene grade: F+. How did Dinah and Ollie get to Edge City before Clark? Why would they incapacitate him with a lame excuse of "protecting" him when he is the only one who can get someone as powerful as Doomsday to the geothermal facility? How do they suppose they'll kill Davis when he's indestructible? When did Oliver get to them and changed their minds? What kind of League is this? Why am I caring so much? Let us proceed.
Still to come: Chloe gets crucified for Jesus' sins.
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Hey Tess. It’s me, another one of your head voices. Listen. You should pay Lois more. She deserves it…
Cut it out, Lois.
Oh. I, uh, thought you were sleeping. My bad.
Didn't you see me eating pizza!?
DON'T JUDGE ME!!
Daily Planet. Lois walks back to her desk, but Tess has been waiting for her. They snark at each other before Tess hints that she knows Lois was snooping around in her office. Lois is pretty fed up with all and tells her that she'll do whatever it takes to find Cousin It and if she wants to fire her then do it. An agitated Tess says this has nothing to do with Chloe. Wow, is it my birthday?? She demands Lois tell her where's the orb and Lois looks at her like the nutjob she is and cracks a joke at her paranoia. For that, she gets her car keys spin-kicked out of her hand.
This is awfully familiar, only I had a PS2 controller in my hand at the time.
Tess takes an aggressive stance and claims she didn't want things to get physical. Lois snaps back that she only wanted to take over the world with alien technology and Tess defends her delusions but enough talk! Lois shoves her out of the way and Tess grabs her arm, dunks a punch and swings them both to the desk where they climb on top each other. I know what you're thinking, and hush! This was one of three things I actually enjoyed about this finale! Now let me proceed.
Lois elbows Tess and spins to her back to push off, but Tess sends a shot to her lower back and puts her in a choke hold that gets reversed. Now on top, Lois finds herself in a headscissor and spins her off the table. NOW we're talkin! They both get to their feet at the same time but Lois nails her with a serious backhand that knocks her out cold. Dayum! That was so badass that took Lois to the ground with her. As Tess lands, she knocks over the Legion ring that Clark left in his desk. Lois picks it up and it slides just barely over the tip of her finger. She thinks for a moment, then disappears to some point in history.
Scene grade: B. Nice catfight, though I wished it were longer and contained oil, white shirts, with soft rock booming in the background. I didn't understand what was the rush. Wanna know something embarassing? First time I saw this I honestly thought that it was cut to give more time to the lengthy epic showdown between Clark and Doomsday. Ahhh ha ha ha. Isn't that crazy? ha ha. {Starts to cry, sobs, sniffles}. I hate life.
Hey, is that your kid?
Yes. Mr. Queen. I brought him to work with me backstage at Smallville so he could meet some of his favorite…
Sell him to me. Nine Million.
What? You want to buy my…
Take it or leave. Two seconds. Clock starts now.
Goodbye, Timmy. Daddy loves you. Have fun with Oliver Queen!
Geothermal facility. Chloe wakes up from being tranq'd and spots Clark's bookbag with a meteor rock inside. The best part about this scene is that when Canary sees Chloe wake up she rolls her eyes and walks away. Way to go, Dinah! Anyway Chloe asks whats going on before accusing them all of wanting to kill her Doomy. Dinah stops her whining and explains why they don't think Clark's plan of using black-K is the best solution, with Ollie and Bart adding that Davis cannot control Doomsday. Chloe insists that she can control him and begs them not to kill him.
Oliver, I'm begging you, just do it. You have a bow and arrow. I mean who kills someone with a bow and arrow these days?! Nobody. The cops would never suspect it.
Davis is awake and listening for a while. He tells the JL to kill him because being with the Chloe isn't working anymore and he's losing control. Take a number my man, I've felt that way since season 5. Predictably her ego can't take that and she runs over to get him to calm down but he refuses and snatches his arm away. Bart and Dinah grab a hold of him but he growls and flings them through the walls. Oliver gets wide-eyed and takes aim to shoot but Chloe obstructs his view as she places the black-K on Davis' chest.
The room rocks as a light splits Davis from Doomsday, leaving Davis on the ground out of breath. He hears a growl behind him and turns to see the monster that was within him staring face right at him, with grape kool aid dripping from his mouth.
Scene grade: D-. The only reason why this isn't a F is because I thought the visual of Dooms splitting was cool. The rest? LAME. Why was the JL in this episode if all they were going to do is get knocked out so quickly? The red shirts on Star Trek get more respect than that. Not one punch thrown. Not one power used. Nothing. This scene was just Chlavis nonsense. And in the end, Davis proved that he was going to beast out regardless of whether she was there or not. So her delusions of importance turned out to be false. And shut up, Chloe.
Edge City. A car pulls up and Jimmy gets out. He finds Clark still on the ground in pain. Clark asks that he remove the dart and he does so, but has a guy moment when he geeks out over the dart glowing. He shows it to Clark but he grunts in pain so Jimmy pulls it away and when he does the wound heals before his eyes. Busted! Kinda like my expression when I saw my Dad washing his car in the rain, Jimmy turns away in shock, unable to speak. Clark gets to feet to his feet and all is well until his healed wound is pointed out to him. There's no escape this time, Clark.
The Superman-ly score that I've missed so much in the second half of this season starts to swell and I get that cheesy grin on my face. Clark starts to lie but Jimmy is having none of that. He points out Clark's disappearance and how he was fine the next day after the taking the bullet. He calls him a Super.. Guy.
Clark smiles and says that he's the RBB. That Jimmy's been right all this time, that he was the only one that put it all together, and that he's sorry he lied to him. A look of relief and validation sweeps over Jimmy's face. Clark asks for his help. He asks that Jimmy take Sebastian and Falkor to a place Jimmy owns and asks him to keep them safe. Jimmy doesn't like the idea of taking Davis there but Clark asks if he trusts him.
"Always, C.K." - Iconic Jimmy Olsen, 7:32 PM.
Aw man, this is really going to eat at Clark's conscious later. Clark gives a Superman nod, then speeds off in front of Jimmy, as he stares and watches in awe. LOVED this scene.
Scene grade A+: My favorite scene of the episode by far. Almost made me tear up the first time I saw it. It was everything that Jimmy Olsen could have been on this show. It brought back fond memories of Identity and why I loved that episode so much. Damn, the smile Jimmy had on his face when he learned everything was just pure joy. Total fanboyish. When everyone else learned his secret they NEVER gave that type of smile to Clark. Jimmy was different, he always was. And we'll never get another scene like this everybody. That was stripped from us on the day this episode aired.
Still to come: There's only one rule in Thunderdome - two men enter, both men die for Chloe.
Commercial Break. Skittles Bubble Gum - Chew the rainbow. Inflate the Rainbow. Taste the Rainbow. I guess even though it's bubble gum, "Blow the Rainbow" wouldn't be appropriate, huh?
Excuse me, where's the steam room?
Oh. Wow. Uh, Mr. Kent, first of all, you shouldn't take your clothes off in the hallway before you're in the steam room. Secondly, this is the post office.
Geothermal Facility. Clark speeds in to find everyone on the ground, knocked out. Oliver the rest of the League stir and get to their feet as Clark checks on Davis and Chloe. When asked what happened to Doomsday, the beast says she split him with the Black-K.
Clark asks Oliver where did he go but he's still pretty shell shocked. I don't recall Oliver ever looking so humbled as he was here in this scene. Once again he's showing remorse while Chloe is not. Needing to find Dooms, Clark stands up and focuses his hearing. Miles away he hears the screams of various people with the Volvo sound of Doomsday's growl. He tells the JL he'll get Doomsday there but he still needs them to detonate the bomb to trap him under the ground. A still solemn Oliver promises to follow Clark's plan.
Scene grade: C. Didn't like the Chloe stuff, but again I liked Oliver and the League's regretful disposition. You see, this is why I pull for them and Oliver - because I know that deep down they are good people who want the same goal as Clark. Oliver's methods vary from Clark, but thats why the both of them need a different perspective every now and then. Everyone could use some humble pie at times.
Warning: Small innocent children and animals (if you can read) should cease reading this review from this point forward.
Why Doomsday Grabs the Little Girl
Grandma, why are those men being so mean to you?
Dammit Kid, I told you already! I'm not your Grandma! I'm Doomsday!
But you look like my grandma.
Your grandma has a horns!!?!
Yes. Yes, she does.
Metropolis. Here we go! The battle of the century. The immovable object versus the irresistible force. Dolly Parton versus a bra. Pants vs shorts. The Main Event, baby.
Clark speeds there to see that street wrecked with a nice bonfire going. He spots a empty phone booth and thinks something happened to Lois who said she would be there earlier. His thoughts are interrupted by a car being flung at his face. He catches it, only to see Doomsday pick up that little girl I mentioned by her collar. The soccer mom runs at him screaming and gets thrown through a window for her trouble. Clark runs over and snatches the little girl from Doomsday's grip and places her down... on garbage bags?? At least he has a nice moment of telling her its going to be OK, but its not.
Doomsday has made it over and he knows all about the Lana arc. He grabs Clark and punches him in the stomach three times, then nails him in the face. Blood flies from Clark as he gets sent through two buildings. Dazed, Clark gets to a knee as Doomsday leaps in front him growling. Clark grinds his teeth and takes a running start, shoulder chargeing him a few feet before leaping away from Metropolis to that geothermal facility. The moment they impact the building, Ollie detonates the bomb and there's a massive explosion of recycled footage. And..
And...
ANDDDDD....
Thats it? That was everything? Thats the whole fight!?! Cut me, Mick. Cut me.
Scene grade: (griting teeth) F-. Spoungebob has better fights than this!! Four punches thrown! Just four! And none by Clark! It does not cost a lot of money to have Tom Welling throw a fake punch and the guy in the costume pretend to get hit while a few carrots are cracked for sound effects. Moving your head from a pretend punch = FREE. I do it all the time when I battle Lana in my nightmares! A bag of carrots = 4 dollars! And if you flirt with the Red Cross lady, you get them for free (Call me, Amy). These producers just don't care about fights (unless it's Lana's) because it takes away from valuable Chloe worship time. This was hyped all season long and what we got was a disgrace. Awful, terrible. Give me Peter Griffin's fight with the Chicken any day over this.
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Hey Brian. This is the secretary for DC comics. I wanted to thank you for your successful show and, while I don't want to seem ungrateful, I was hoping I could discuss something with you. Seems that you…well, um… left Jimmy Olsen…well, in my garbage can. Not sure if this is a joke but he's in the damn garbage can. Call me back. Thanks.
<S>Watchtower.</S> I can do this. One sentence at a time. {deep breath} OK, I'm ready. Dammit, I just heard Chloe breathing. OK, I just need something extra, ahh, here we go. 7 year old morphine and Vick's vapor rub. {turns on "kill em all" by Metallica} Let us proceed.
Jimmy checks Davis' pulse and tells.. her that Davis is OK. Chloe thanks him for bringing them there and asks about the place. Thats just the Talon set, who are we kidding here? He explains that it was a place he bought and planned to make it their home after the wedding. That one of the reasons he chose it was because it overlooks all of Metropolis and could be seen by everyone. That he wanted her to know that he was always there watching over her.
Her majesty beems with joy at someone else feeding her ego and now Jimmy is suddenly the bestest guy evah to her! She attempts to play with his emotions again but he cuts her off and says he knows all about Clark. That he now realizes.. how much... she's.. sacrificed.. for everyone..
This isn't working. I need something stronger, like crack.
She tells him that this whole time the reason she's been with Davis to protect Clark, and only that. Oh shup up, Chloe. So when you tazered him it was to protect Clark? Right? Poppycock!!
Woa-oh there Scotty! You've... got-to control yourself, mister!
I'm givin it all I'dst got cap'n, but I cans't take this bull**** any longer!
Jimmy tells her that his eyes are now opened and he views her as a even bigger hero than Clark. This is his official death, the rest is just a formality. And she doesn't correct that statement because she believes it to be so. She starts another pity party and yada yada until it ends with them kissing. Ugh.
And then it happens. No I didn't kill anyone.. yet. A squish noise is heard and Jimmy looks down to see a pipe through his torso. Reveal Davis holding the pipe, having heard everything that big mouth said. Jimmy stands there unable to speak before flopping to the ground. Davis narrows his eyes at Chloe and steps forward, repeating everything she said. She back peddles and tries to explain her way out of it but he's full of rage. He's about to hit a home run with her head when Jimmy, on his last rush of adrenaline, runs behind him and shoves him into a spike, killing Davis. After doing so, Jimmy collapses in her arms and apologizes, before telling her he loves her and dies.
Scene grade: F!! After everything this guy's been through you do this to him!? The person he was engaged to lied to him the entire engagement, flirted behind his back, and didn't respect him enough to tell him that she was losing her memories. Then he gets gutted by a beast and put in a coma where she doesn't even visit him. He comes back and she tasers him while he's still sick! She has dinner with the guy who ruined his marriage one week after they separated. And after ALL of this.. you make him worship at her feet and be killed by the same guy who already tried to kill him 3 times already this season!?!?! What kind of show is this?!
Still to come: I learn the answer to an important question: Is it possible to smother one's self with a pillow?
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Jimmy's Funeral. A priest recites the 23rd Psalm as Chloe puts a photo of him and her on Jimmy's coffin.
"Henry James Olsen, may you rest in peace" - The worst retcon in the history of Smallville, 7:51 PM
Bart, Dinah, and Ollie are present, with Oliver wearing shades to hide the tears. After the Priest says his last words, a little boy walks away with his father. Jimmy's killer sees him and walks over. She gives him his brother's camera and makes some off handed remark to signal that he's iconic Jimmy Olsen. I shake my head in disbelief. All of them walk away except Oliver who stays behind the longest to watch the coffin. Reveal Clark who is also watching from a distance, not wanting to alert anyone of his presence. Oliver sees him and they exchange sad glances before Oliver walks off.
Scene grade: The letter of the day, kids, is F. This was yet another gutless move by gutless producers. And now they'll hide behind DC and avoid all press for a few months until Comic Con. I know Jimmy has said Bartholomew before and even if he didn't, for three years this guy has been calling himself Jimmy Olsen. He worked with Lois at the DP, he was a reporter, he wears a bow-tie, he's dorky, people called him Jimmy, his I.D. said Jimmy, his wedding invitation said Jimmy, press releases by the CW and WB said Jimmy. The first time we saw him in Zod he introduces himself as James Olsen. So this scene fails, not only for this stupid retcon, but because of the message it sends. I as a fan have wasted my time rooting for this guy who, out of left field, wasn't who he said he was. Is Clark's middle name still Joseph? Is Lois' middle name Joanne? I'm just asking just to be sure, you know, cause they may not be who we think they are. There's never been a more despicable move than this retcon.
The Kent Home - December 1995
Clark, would you like to explain these to me? Your mother found them in your closet.
Dad. I just?
Clark, why do you have big red coats in your closet?! Why?! No son of mine is gonna wear big red coats! How dare you!
Well Pete thinks its cool!
PETE DOESN'T LIVE UNDER THIS ROOF!
I'll show you, dad! I'm gonna wear big red coats on TV one day! You'll see! You'll all see!!
<S>WatchTower</S>. A very serious Clark opens the door and walks in, stopping when he sees the stained blood of Jimmy still on the floor. He stares at the stain and footsteps break his thoughts. But of course, its Chloe. Clark sees her and looks away annoyed that someone saw him there. She hugs him and he isn't enthusiastic about it. When asked how he got out of the tunnel before the geothermal explosion, he isn't really sure but just knows he made it out in time, although not in time enough. His voice saddens as he says he's searched everywhere but, he swallows, and then says that there is no sign of Lois. Chloe sobs and says she saw someone putting a missing person' bulletin up for her and that it gave her hope that she didn't lose everyone she loves.
3, 2, 1...
"You were there today Clark, weren't you? I really needed you. Why didn't you come to me?" - Me me me me me me me me me ME, 7:56 PM.
"Would someone PLEASE spray her with raid?" - myself, seconds later.
Clark tells her he's the reason Jimmy's dead. That Oliver was right and that he put humanity on a pedestal. That it wasn't a Doomsday that killed Jimmy, but a human. The beast says she was standing there and know who killed Jimmy. Clark tells her to sell the place and just walk away, but there's more me me me talk from the blonde until she calls the new place <S>WatchTower</S>. She says the JL disappeared and cut off all contact with her and that she needs him to bring them home.
"Home? I don't have a home." - Clark Kent, alien from another galaxy, 7:57 PM.
Though I have problems with this scene, the way Clark looks and sounds has me feeling sorry for him. He continues that he's tried to forget he's an alien because he thought his kryptonian side was a danger, but now he's convinced his human side is whats really dangerous. It allows him to get attached and make decisions based on emotions and he sees it as his enemy now.
"So because of some psychopath you're going to cut the rest of us out of your life?" - says the woman who hid Davis and pushed everyone away, ran away with Davis, and talked to Davis about starting a new life away from everyone not more than 40 MINUTES AGO, 7:58 PM.
She says something about being a hero but I tuned it out. Clark says that emotions are stopping him from being the hero he could be, and that the world needs a new emotionless hero. Sniffles, Jor-El would so proud of his boy. Chloe asks what does he mean.
"Clark Kent is dead." - John Doe, 7:58 PM.
He says goodbye, turns and walks away, disappearing for added emphasis to end the scene.
Scene grade: D-. No no! Thats not what he should have learned from this! Its not your faith in humanity that is a weakness, Clark. Its that you put your faith in the wrong people, especially that person you was just talking to. If you want to take a stand against relying on human emotions, do it against her and Tess who openly use those emotions against you for evil. As for the <S>Watchtower</S> being a gift to someone like Chloe Sullivan that was stained with Jimmy's blood, I think for the sake of my unborn children I will just finish up this review.
At the Luthor Mansion Tess hears those strange voices again and runs toward it. Downstairs and just outside of the study, she sees a purple light shining through a window. Looking closer its that orb again. A beam of light shoots from the thing and a nude body materializes out of nowhere. It picks up the orb in his hand as the voices chant "Zod, Zod, Zod" like this is a pep rally to end the scene, the episode, and this season.
Scene grade: So.. that orb caused Tess' security system to crash, blasted through the metal door, flew around, hid everywhere to avoid her guards, crawled outside this window by itself, and now a pantless Zod is back? Is that about right? Whats Russian alpahbet for F?
All in All: Let me get this straight. Clark Kent just quit the DP, Lois Lane is missing and figures to get fired as soon as she appears, Jimmy was a lie for the past 3 years, Chloe freed the slaves and was crowned queen of yo-yo land? Did I wake up on Mars?
Clark. I'd say for the majority he was pretty good. He was ready to give his life and while and his plan to get rid of Doomsday worked. So good job by him on that. But they really did it to him this time. Now he carries the guilt of being the one who asked Jimmy to take those fugitives to that building. Add in that he presumes Lois might be dead as well and you get this zombie Clark. The guy's eyes said it all, there wasn't anything there. He did die - he's dead inside. And until he finds Lois he'll stay that way. This metaphoric death could be good if it causes him to make sweeping changes in his life regarding the shady people around him. If it doesn't lead to that then this is just unneccessary angst for nothing.
Lois. Three scenes and gone two minutes before the halfway point. Riddle me this: who.. gets.. a.. cliffhanger.. 18 minutes into a finale!? Answer - Nobody. The whole point of a cliffhanger is that it happens near the end of an episode. This wasn't some guest star, its Lois Lane. PS made sure to get her out of the episode early so that they could devote the last half of the episode to Chlavis/Chloe's rise to sainthood/and the non-fight and ramfications. And they better not have her return with amnesia or any nonsense like that. But who knows? Maybe it'll be a "quintessential" amnesia. Eh?
Davis. He proved just who he always was - an obsessive, selfish murderer. He deserved to be sent to the PZ, not to be allowed to play house with Chloe and live as a free man. As a character he was an interesting concept at first, and then it all failed miserably. Like Jimmy, he became a pawn for Chloe's ego.
Oliver. Underused in this episode. He shows up and Clark acts jerky to him, then he acts jerky to Clark, and then he doesn't even get to do any fight scene with Doomsday. Nothing. He just shows up to the funeral and disapears. What kind of wrap is that to his season arc? He also got no screentime with Tess either and didn't even mention her.
Jimmy. AA, you were a joy to watch, and you are way too good for this show. He's my Jimmy Olsen. Lois doesn't even know he's dead and when she finds out she won't take it well at all. Oh, and the other elephant in the room.. how are we to believe that when this other kid shows up in 4 years, that Clark and Lois will just take him under their wing all willy nilly? Ah, there I go again thinking too much.
Chloe the 1st. You know, back in the good ole days of seasons 1-3 (when the show was still about Clark) Chloe would get 3 minutes at most in an episode. Sometimes one would blink and miss her. I remember those days - I had cake. But those days are gone, and Chloeville will now reign for 22 more episodes. Having only commited the worse most unforgiving of crimes, covered them up, and never owned up to any of them when she was caught.. Chloe managed to escape all sense of logical storytelling. I can safely say that in the 8 years of Smallville not even Lana has done the horrible things Chloe's done and gotten away with them. I can't wait until she burns an ophanage to the ground next season and be given a purple heart for courageous arson.
As for the spec that she is pregnant by her belly rub (which I did notice), well.. and how can I put this delicately.. its revolting. People that hide human remains in the dumpster and not report it to the cops are not mother material. The kid would be better served growing up in a hell dimension.
In Doomsday, PS used their standard formula: Tension for the sake of tension without any logic behind it. OOC dialogue. The type of angst that you only find in North California. Plotholes the size of Lana's wig. And Earth-shattering, all-that-is-right-in-the-world defying retcons.
This was the most disappointing episode in my Smallville experience. If I judged this by emotion alone it would be a 0. But looking over my scene grades there were parts of some scenes that I liked. And for that it gets 4 out of 10. Second worst of the season and worse than Requiem. I can't believe they skimmed out on ED's episodes to afford THIS. What a travesty.
My final rankings for the season. Usually I just round them off to whole numbers but I'll add the decimals this time.
Identity: 10.0
Hex: 9.9
Commited: 9.5
Stiletto: 9.4
Bloodline: 9.3
Turbulence: 9.3
Bulletproof. 9.2
Instinct 9.1
Bride: 8.4
Oddyssy: 8.3
Prey: 8.1
Plastique: 8.0
Infamous: 7.9
Legion: 7.4
Injustice: 6.5
Toxic: 6.1
Abyss: 5.7
Eternal: 5.5
Beast: 4.7
Requiem: 4.5
Doomsday: 3.9
Power: 0.9999 and that was only because I like the opening credits.
Thanks to everyone who put up with my insanity. I don't know where our show is going from here. Its a steep hill to climb. Enjoy the downtime and I'll see ya next season.Brought this back up for reference, one hella of a read, but perfectly worded and captured every sentiment and disgust I had for the finale. I never bothered to review, mainly commented,and speculated, but this excellent review says it all, for many. Bravo! I applaud for efforts and commend you for taking the time to review and put it all down for all to see.:D:D
nhl2k
06-02-2009, 07:00 AM
Brought this back up for reference, one hella of a read, but perfectly worded and captured every sentiment and disgust I had for the finale. I never bothered to review, mainly commented,and speculated, but this excellent review says it all, for many. Bravo! I applaud for efforts and commend you for taking the time to review and put it all down for all to see.:D:D
Definitely a great read! I haven't actually laughed out loud while reading a review in a long time, but this did it. Fallen One, you've hit the nail on the head. The writing for this season started out good and ended up in the trash can with the worst finale I have ever seen. The past few seasons have done something to me that Heroes did in Season 2: It made me not care about the characters. Once a show does that, there's no point in watching, and I'm about there. If they don't start making these characters into people with some integrity and brains, and if they don't stop with this brainless writing that if you even TRY to think, it doesn't make sense, then I don't know if I'll continue to watch. I can't tell you how sad that is considering this used to be my favorite TV show.
And on a side note, I also want to say that as someone who works in technology, this show really must be in another dimension. You can't just run something off a flash drive and break through firewalls. If that was the case, every American would have their identity stolen by now, children would be in control of our missile defense system, and all of our money would be transferred to offshore accounts. Ridiculous. But then again, that's what this show has become.
jackbauerfanatic1963
06-02-2009, 04:04 PM
i love the superman character,i always have and will.i first saw superman on tv not as a cartoon,but on saturdays and sunday morning syndication with george reeves.i have watched smallville from the get - go.i must say that i have thought every season got better and better,till this season.
i thought this season flat out stank up the joint!i like the chloe character,but the whole season was really about her,and lets face it,they did'nt show erica durance hardly any.we all know superman will eventually fall in love with lois,and the writers this season just did'nt put lois in the stories enough.
i love this show,and i'll miss it when it's gone,but i'd rather see it die after next season if the writing and development is gonna be as crappy as season 9 turned out to be.:mad::mad::mad:
Sharingan
06-03-2009, 12:01 AM
The whole thing about director and writers not writing for the fans and viewers but for themselves is bull... Each season of smallville has become more and more justification that the directors and writers of Smallville have no clue and are completely out of touch.
Their vision for this show is garbage. Transitions have been bad. Storyline is nonsensical. Character development makes either no sense or there is none. Everything about the show that is good is removed. I'm finding that the only reason i'm still sticking to watchin this series is cuz I want to see it die.
Tonight's finale was like taking all the crappy episodes ever made, stick it into a blender for five minutes and have some fat dude take a dump on on top of it for icing.
digitalphil
06-03-2009, 07:50 PM
I've pretty much given up on SV
my guess is TPTB will do what they usually do with these
season finale/premieres
ignore all the uproar and excitement they created in the finale
and DESPERATELY rush to make things
status quo in 1 episode
clark gets back to fighting freaks of the week
the only thing that'll bring me back now
is if Batman shows up in Metropolis
i know i'll get flamed or THE USUAL HERE: thread deleted
but i just wanted to voice my dissatisfaction with the SV finale
Promise
06-04-2009, 07:15 AM
Definitely the worst finale since Commencement
What???! Commencement was a classic. The famous throw of the crystal to create the FOS. Wow, you didn't like that? And that was when the Smallville's verison of the Superman theme came alive for when Tom finally's opens the shirt to reveal the S.
Anyways, been watching Smallville from the begining again, and up to Season 3 now. Man I miss the good writing. Clark was the focus, Lex was with women his age(Lexana ruined his character in my honest opinion), and whatever happen to Helen anyways, lol. But Early Smallville rules, but what's sad as I get closer to the next Seasons I start thinking about the episodes to skip. So sad.
Bannikus
06-07-2009, 08:22 PM
I don't really understand how people can say they had to kill Jimmy because in the comics he didn't come in until much later,which would make this Jimmy too old.... What about Lois? What about Jonathan dying years before he did in the comics? Clark having sex with Lana? Pete Ross being black instead of white?(They could've created a new character if they felt they needed a "token"(which is obscene to me). Doomsday being a man possessed with this alien/demon?(stolen concept from Buffy...ala...Glory/Ben storyline)
There are so many discrepencies between the show and the comics,it was made clear years ago,they weren't sticking to the myth of Superman at all. So,saying they HAD to kill Jimmy is a bit ridiculous.
I'm still hoping next season Lois comes back from the future,warns Clark AND Chloe of what's going to happen unless they do something....this way Jimmy and Chloe can get married and be happy....
I realize this won't happen,but I'm a romantic LOL
topping82
06-09-2009, 09:56 PM
After watching the Season finale I can’t help but feel like we lost more than just Jimmy and Davis that night. With their deaths, not only did we see an undeserving and incomprehensible demise to one of the best storylines on Smallville for years, but with it, much of what I thought Smallville stood for and represented, that everyone deserves a chance and is worth trying to save. I have always overlooked any discrepancies because I really enjoy watching the show; again with the finale I can excuse a lot of what has divided the fans, but the way they mishandled Davis' death, its implications and Chloe's total turnaround is glaring, painful even, and possibly a driving force behind why 'Doomsday' felt so wrong to so many people.
Perhaps they thought that in having Davis kill off much loved “Jimmy” we would have found it more acceptable. We could have, I suppose, if everyone hadn’t been so out of character, if Davis’ human descent into Doomsday was more gradual, and only after he was given a real chance in life – but he never was. Sam Witwer’s compelling portrayal of Davis Bloome as a tortured soul seeking redemption was captivating and endearing; he was never a “psycho” (even Sam himself didn’t think he was), he was struggling to save his humanity – which is why the 5 minutes it took to annihilate a Season’s worth of intrigue, effort and potential was so inexplicable. With it they obliterated any semblance of plot cohesion, character cohesion –any cohesion, frankly. It was brutal, devastating; and I just don’t understand it.
I have watched it and re-watched it, hoping to make sense of the finale, to accept it and justify it, but I can’t! I have always loved Smallville. It is the only show I have followed over the seasons and watched from the very beginning. I have invested in it; which is why I am even writing this – I still want it to work. The only glimmer of hope I had in the entire episode came in the form of Lois possibly “rewriting” history through her time travel, preventing Jimmy’s death at the hands of Davis Bloome, and Davis’ own death, and in so doing, giving Davis an opportunity to be ‘human’ even if it is only to be short-lived. In my eyes, so much rests upon it. As it stands, the message we are left with is that some people aren’t worth trying to save and don’t deserve a chance. Whilst we can perhaps understand that of an alien designed as the “ultimate destroyer”, this was said of Davis’ “humanity” - after he had been split from his Kryptonian side!:confused: Personally, as feeble as it may sound, I would even prefer to discover, in the Season 9 premiere, that ‘Doomsday’ was an episode-long nightmare, and that whoever was dreaming it wakes up, and we can have a real ending to Season 8 (which I think has been one of the best in the series) and a chance to salvage much of the damage that has alienated so many fans. At the moment it is a nightmare to so many of them.
Smallville’s greatest strength has always been in the intrigue within the character development and story-telling despite knowing what the future ultimately holds. The paradox of Davis Bloome and the Davis-Chloe-Clark dilemma presented so many possibilities; and as much as I would have liked to see Davis redeemed, I was waiting, with bated breath, to watch his eventual descent into Doomsday unfold; and rather, than trying to escape Doomsday, Davis would actively seek to unearth, become and embrace Doomsday along with his absolute hatred for Clark, and his desire to exact vengeance on humankind at large.
Perhaps this was the original direction with the Davis arc, which was then hurriedly butchered to make way for Zod, rendering the whole episode, and much of the Season, nonsensical in the process. But it doesn’t have to be this way. Even if Zod is returning to Smallville, with another season under way, I can only request that you bring Davis back and round off his storyline with any, more fitting closure and give him, the show, and the fans, a send off worthy of what appears to be the final season of Smallville.
As a fan, I have learnt to overlook some of the inconsistencies, plot holes etc. but, this time I just can’t. I want Smallville to end on a high, but I fear that if they don’t consider rectifying the devastation left in Doomsday's wake, Jimmy and Davis will not be the only recent casualties of the show – they would have died along with a legion of fans and any faith I had left in the show.
Beautifully said, and I agree with every word. I bolded a few of the best parts! I really think that what they did in this episode will have a long lasting effect on many fans, and not positively. I too, hope that they can rectify the mistakes of this episode, particularly in relation to Davis Bloome and Chloe Sullivan.
topping82
06-09-2009, 10:58 PM
Reading through some of these reviews, it has become apparent to me that most people didn't really care for the episode.
I have to say I agree with Fallen One that the episode was bad, but for different reasons. I think what the writers did to Chloe and Davis was the worst part of the episode for me.
In a show about Superman, Clark should have been right about "not killing" while Oliver (Lex killer) should have been wrong.
This is a show about Superman for goodness sake! This episode repulsed me in every way possible.
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The whole thing about director and writers not writing for the fans and viewers but for themselves is bull... Each season of smallville has become more and more justification that the directors and writers of Smallville have no clue and are completely out of touch.
Their vision for this show is garbage. Transitions have been bad. Storyline is nonsensical. Character development makes either no sense or there is none. Everything about the show that is good is removed. I'm finding that the only reason i'm still sticking to watchin this series is cuz I want to see it die.
Tonight's finale was like taking all the crappy episodes ever made, stick it into a blender for five minutes and have some fat dude take a dump on on top of it for icing.
Yep, that pretty much sums up how I felt about this episode.
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I don't really understand how people can say they had to kill Jimmy because in the comics he didn't come in until much later,which would make this Jimmy too old.... What about Lois? What about Jonathan dying years before he did in the comics? Clark having sex with Lana? Pete Ross being black instead of white?(They could've created a new character if they felt they needed a "token"(which is obscene to me). Doomsday being a man possessed with this alien/demon?(stolen concept from Buffy...ala...Glory/Ben storyline)
There are so many discrepencies between the show and the comics,it was made clear years ago,they weren't sticking to the myth of Superman at all. So,saying they HAD to kill Jimmy is a bit ridiculous.
Agreed. I think SV has made it pretty clear that they are different than the comics.
I'm still hoping next season Lois comes back from the future,warns Clark AND Chloe of what's going to happen unless they do something....this way Jimmy and Chloe can get married and be happy....
I realize this won't happen,but I'm a romantic LOL
I'm hoping they fix the finale as well. And since I'm a romantic I hope Jimmy and Chloe don't get married. They're worse than Clana for me. Much worse. But to each their own. I always felt like Chloe was settling and vice versa. They were never "easy" with each other and the actors had no chemistry.
I preferred the beauty and the beast story line between Chloe and Davis, and think Davis should have found the redemption he was seeking all season (whether or not that meant he ended up with Chloe or not). I guess what I'm saying is that the out of the blue Chimmy reunion was part of the reason the episode failed for me.
I hope as well that the writers re-write everything to make sense of this horrible finale.
TheMeanBean
06-11-2009, 12:06 PM
After the awesome that was Season 7, this season really has let me down, Power and Requiem really were low, but Doomsday was worse becuase of the built up dissapointment. They've dragged out this show for too long and I don't feel the writer's passion for the characters or story anymore, it's time for Clark to become Superman.
Supermania
06-11-2009, 12:27 PM
I feel that Season Eight's finale was extremely under-rated. It was a really dramatic and tense action epic that failed to disappoint. Perhaps the Clark/Doomsday fight could have been longer, but apart from that, everything was perfection in season finale form! It was pleasing to let everyone see Bloome as the homicidal maniac he really is and Jimmy finding out Clark was the Red-Blue Blur and making him realise what Chloe had gone through was the best thing that could've happened to his character before dying. The plot twist with the young olsen at the funeral being the real Jimmy was excellent too. The only thing that was bad about this episode was the fight. But Clark's determination to succeed and win against Doomsday was seriously inspiring as was his clear demonstration of leadership skills at the earlier end of the episode. It was just a shame his superhero buddies were two-faced idiots!
Jade4813
06-11-2009, 07:01 PM
I just listened to the SHoE podcast and I think it's the first time I've really disagreed with their assessment of the episode. I do think a number of people were expecting a knockdown drag out fight, but I wasn't really. Okay, I was expecting for Clark to get off maybe ONE punch. Or TWO. But I wasn't expecting the Death of Superman, and I wasn't really even wanting it, even if they could afford to do it. Smallville's not at the place where the RBB has the same meaning for the world and the people of Metropolis that he does in the comics.
That said...it was still BAD. I don't buy that it was planned for the beginning that Jimmy wouldn't be Jimmy. If that was so, why wasn't there even the slightest hint or lead-in that this was true? Yeah, Jimmy didn't want to have anything to do with his family, but there was just nothing at all that said that Jimmy wasn't Jimmy. And if Jimmy really WASN'T to be Jimmy, then why did they make that Jimmy feature with him in it?
I'm disappointed with what they did with Davis, not because I particularly liked Davis but because I know what the actor's said he thought Davis was to be and IMO that would have been nice. It would have been nice if they'd had Chloe wanting to actually save Davis and do what she did to actually accomplish that end because it's what she wanted, and then to have that faith and the risk be justified by having Davis be a nice guy...who might then die or leave, but at least she would have taken a chance for something that ended up having a point.
And, I'm sorry, but the total revisionist history trying to make it seem like Chloe did it ALL for Clark and that she was the hero all along...? Puh-lease. I'd much rather the show acknowledge that characters (other than Clark) make mistakes and then have to atone for them. Yeah, yeah, she did it all for Clark. She's committing adultery for the sake of the world. Be still my beating heart, because I know that brought a tear to MY eye.
DisneyBoy
06-12-2009, 12:40 PM
Where was the Legion right when we really needed it? I'd give quite a bit to be able to go back in time and reverse the writer's decision to push this donkey manure script through to production.
Lex Dance
06-12-2009, 01:35 PM
And, I'm sorry, but the total revisionist history trying to make it seem like Chloe did it ALL for Clark and that she was the hero all along...? Puh-lease. I'd much rather the show acknowledge that characters (other than Clark) make mistakes and then have to atone for them. Yeah, yeah, she did it all for Clark. She's committing adultery for the sake of the world. Be still my beating heart, because I know that brought a tear to MY eye.
Totally agree with you on this point, Jade. I know the Jimmy stuff has caused most of the furore but I think the weakest part of the episode (and the season) has being the writing of Chloe. I don't really know what we are supposed to feel when it comes to her character. I know what I do feel - real disappointment at the deterioration of once strong characterisation. I used to love Chloe, and everything she was involved in for the first 5 seasons was very watchable. I can still remember how overjoyed I was at that scene in the Yukon hospital in Arrival when she told Clark that she knew his secret and could be trusted. I can still remember the anxiety of the threat her thirst for knowledge held in Truth. There are so many great moments involving this mythologically original character, but now I don't seem to really care about her, or even that Clark has abandoned her (and that, I think, is much worse considering where she started from).
Talking of Clark, I think his characterisation was fantastic in this episode. Despite the crisis of faith scene (which I totally buy after the events of the episode), he really was Superman here. And for that reason, I'm not as disappointed by Doomsday as most. I do, however, have serious concerns as to how S9 will pan out......
petitemimi
06-12-2009, 08:36 PM
I just mustered the courage tonight to watch the episode. I think AA was a terrific Jimmy Olsen, and just as he was FINALLY playing the iconic Jimmy role (in Identity for instance), the writers did that ridiculous plot twist for shock value only.
And imo, the lanafication of Chloe is more obvious than ever. She's the victim, she's whining that Clark has let her down, she sacrificed so much and so on and so forth. And of course, 2 guys madly in love with her, died for her and now she's all alone. I feel like I'm re-watching every Lana plot all over again, and it's not better the 2nd time around.
I think those writers who love GA so much, killed the character in that episode. There's a name for people who shoot their "friends" in the back, and that name is not "hero".
I liked how Clark was written in the episode, even though his "friends" blame him throughout the episode because of what he did or didn't do. I understand why he thinks humanity is not worth it at the end. It's not because of Davis, he's just tired of being harrassed by the people around him. :p
But the thing that got on my nerves the most, was the overbearing orchestra. I kept on lowering the sound because it was in every freakin' scene. Just unsufferable. I felt that they wanted to underline how iconic that episode was with that "grandiose" music.
Aficionado
06-13-2009, 08:05 PM
I'm new here and couldn't post before but I have enjoyed reading your reviews in the past. You did a stellar job on this one and unfortunately I have to agree with you for most of it. You nailed it when you said that Clark's reveal was the best scene in an otherwise dismal episode. All of the other reveals came without Clark actually knowing about them. In this one he actually stated who he was and did it in such a supermanly way. The reaction of Jimmy's face was one of pure, unadulterated joy and you're right, that moment will never happen again because they obliterated Jimmy and I still don't know why. Trying to analyze the poor writing, especially of KS and BP, is incredibly tiresome and frustrating. By the way I mostly agree with your rankings as well, although I disliked Eternal the most because of all the retcons which made absolutely no sense at all but hey, it's Smallville,
doesn't have to make sense.
Addressed to Cedric, just wanted to make that clear.
mrs.clark.kent
06-13-2009, 08:28 PM
i didn't like the way they ended this year's season..
it didn't look "DOOMSDAY" to me..
i was expecting a near-death experience fight of Clark to Doomsday or he will literally die.
or anything that will make superman in jeopardy.
and i cant get the point where jimmy died after he found out about clark..
i was expecting him to have a bigger part in the show now that he had confirmed who red-blue-blur was..
and what the hell happened to the part where in "Tomorrow is the day you die"?
Jimmy and Davis were the only ones who died.. it was supposed to be Clark kent right?
and Lois went where?
the episode ender was really confusing and sort of "crappy" to me..
but it was better than the episode "Arctic" of Season 7..
4 out of 10 to me.. :(
Fallen One
06-15-2009, 05:45 AM
Cedric-have u ever thought of doing any Superman movie reviews?Or even the animated Superman/Doomsday?
Oh I think about a lot of things axisoftime, most of which I couldn't say on here. I don't know if I would be able to fit a movie review on here with the max characters limit. Maybe if I eliminated the intro all together.
Sorry you had to put yourself through torture again in order to do this review. As I stated on here since this epic failure of a finale aired, I wouldn't have blamed you one bit had you not done a review!
Thanks though---I always enjoy reading them!
Thanks for all the thoughts Melissa. Jimmy did not deserve this and neither did we. No need to thank me for reviewing, its thanks to all of you who actually read it! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angelic003.gif
Oh, Cedric! This is gold! :rotfl: And the rest of your review was more enjoyable than the finale itself. Nuff said. :cool:
Always great hearing from you Ella :D
Brought this back up for reference, one hella of a read, but perfectly worded and captured every sentiment and disgust I had for the finale. I never bothered to review, mainly commented,and speculated, but this excellent review says it all, for many. Bravo! I applaud for efforts and commend you for taking the time to review and put it all down for all to see.:D:D
Thanks my man. After the barfing, the clawing of my eyes out, the urge to kill, and all the other small stuff passed, killing this episode wasn't so hard. I'm still finding it difficult to forget every detail of this crap, and can only hope that years from now the memory fades. If this was my first season of Smallville I would give this show up after such a disaster. But I've been with it for 8 years, and as a completest I will see it through the end.
Definitely a great read! I haven't actually laughed out loud while reading a review in a long time, but this did it. Fallen One, you've hit the nail on the head. The writing for this season started out good and ended up in the trash can with the worst finale I have ever seen. The past few seasons have done something to me that Heroes did in Season 2: It made me not care about the characters. Once a show does that, there's no point in watching, and I'm about there. If they don't start making these characters into people with some integrity and brains, and if they don't stop with this brainless writing that if you even TRY to think, it doesn't make sense, then I don't know if I'll continue to watch. I can't tell you how sad that is considering this used to be my favorite TV show.
Welcome to K-site Nhl2k, glad ya liked it. I hope you aren't a Red Wings fan, cause this would be the worst year ever as far as entertainment went. Reading the words you said just makes me shake my head at seeing what the producers managed to do, and so many others feel the same as you do. The producers have no one to blame but themselves.
The whole thing about director and writers not writing for the fans and viewers but for themselves is bull... Each season of smallville has become more and more justification that the directors and writers of Smallville have no clue and are completely out of touch.
Their vision for this show is garbage. Transitions have been bad. Storyline is nonsensical. Character development makes either no sense or there is none. Everything about the show that is good is removed. I'm finding that the only reason i'm still sticking to watchin this series is cuz I want to see it die.
Tonight's finale was like taking all the crappy episodes ever made, stick it into a blender for five minutes and have some fat dude take a dump on on top of it for icing.
:rotfl: Thats some good stuff!
I'm new here and couldn't post before but I have enjoyed reading your reviews in the past. You did a stellar job on this one and unfortunately I have to agree with you for most of it. You nailed it when you said that Clark's reveal was the best scene in an otherwise dismal episode. All of the other reveals came without Clark actually knowing about them. In this one he actually stated who he was and did it in such a supermanly way. The reaction of Jimmy's face was one of pure, unadulterated joy and you're right, that moment will never happen again because they obliterated Jimmy and I still don't know why. Trying to analyze the poor writing, especially of KS and BP, is incredibly tiresome and frustrating. By the way I mostly agree with your rankings as well, although I disliked Eternal the most because of all the retcons which made absolutely no sense at all but hey, it's Smallville,
doesn't have to make sense.
Addressed to Cedric, just wanted to make that clear.
Thank you very much Aficionado and glad ya signed up to share your thoughts. Welcome! If all is well that ends well, then this season was the worst ever. Fortunately in TV season the good episodes can be viewed and the bad ones can never be seen again. But the turn they took after Lana arrived.. just wow. KS and BP are the worse writers and should never get another pivital episode again. Thanks again!
nhl2k
06-15-2009, 06:15 AM
Welcome to K-site Nhl2k, glad ya liked it. I hope you aren't a Red Wings fan, cause this would be the worst year ever as far as entertainment went. Reading the words you said just makes me shake my head at seeing what the producers managed to do, and so many others feel the same as you do. The producers have no one to blame but themselves.
You had to bring it up. :\
Yes, I am a Red Wings fan and this playoff year just about put me in the hospital. Anyway, I also like Pittsburgh, so the defeat wasn't as painful as it could have been.
Anyway, don't want to take this off topic, although I could relate my disappointment to the season finale. :rotfl:
cristianacsf
06-17-2009, 01:23 AM
i didn´t like the end of the season,
why jimmy have to die??
i think jimmy and chloe was a beautiful couple
RedKRules
06-18-2009, 11:55 AM
Failsday was just as good as my gag reflex *sacarsm*
sarahsmom
06-18-2009, 01:09 PM
She's committing adultery for the sake of the world.
Jade please explain this. We watched the same show but I don't see where you get this??
LJ-90
06-18-2009, 02:42 PM
Hate the Jimmy retcon.
I was willing to come back next season, and I will be back, but the Jimmy "twist" leave this show tainted for me.
Now, I won't be able to see Smallville like a good show altogether.
Mainly because of how they treat there actors:
John Glover- He learned the news of his character death...from his driver. No wonder he said he won't be back by any means.
Sam Witwer- They sold him a character and gave him other. I understand that Davis was beyond redemption but if they have sold him a good guy- and knew how the fans felt about him- they could have kill him by the hands of Doomsday, or sending him to prison willingly. No wonder he doesn't want to come back either.
Aaron Ashmore- They told him - AND THE FANS- he was the iconic Jimmy Olsen. They lied for 3 years if they knew the twist all along. And if it's a last second thing, well...they need to be fired. ASAP. I don't understand how people can be so ok with this...it's insulting to the fans and to the actor.
IMO the premiere better be awesome or I'm out. I have no faith in this show. In the past I could defend it, I could say "Hey, the last couple of seasons were awesome, and if you take some episodes out, it's a good series" but now I can't, the Jimmy retcon will always be in my mind when I'll think of this show. I just can't accept it.
All of this actors deserved better and I hope all the luck of the world to them, hopefully they'll find a job where they aren't lied to and treated as they deserve.
triplet
06-19-2009, 07:36 AM
She's committing adultery for the sake of the world. Be still my beating heart, because I know that brought a tear to MY eye.
You know, if she and Davis did it, it wouldn't have been adultery.
She and Jimmy were divorced.
cloisthelegendbegins
06-19-2009, 08:33 AM
You know, if she and Davis did it, it wouldn't have been adultery.
She and Jimmy were divorced.
Were they though? In the time frame is that even possible?
triplet
06-19-2009, 09:09 AM
Were they though? In the time frame is that even possible?
Yeah, I forget the episode, but Chloe mentioned something about getting divorced.
I did say in my review of the episode that I thought it was too quick. It's not like waving a wand and *poof* you're divorced, it requires lawyers, court dates, etc.
It was way too quick (and probably expensive) for someone (Jimmy) who's unemployed.
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 09:13 AM
Yeah, I forget the episode, but Chloe mentioned something about getting divorced.
Was it Stiletto?
I remember Clark coming into the Talon and Chloe was cooking a vast amount of food (obviously for her and Davis) and she covered it up by saying she was keeping herself busy after her "divorce".
I could be wrong though.
mr lane
06-19-2009, 09:15 AM
Was it Stiletto?
I remember Clark coming into the Talon and Chloe was cooking a vast amount of food (obviously for her and Davis) and she covered it up by saying she was keeping herself busy after her "divorce".
I could be wrong though.
it was either stiletto or beast
she mentioned divorce papers
i dont think the divorce had finalized yet though
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 09:18 AM
it was either stiletto or beast
she mentioned divorce papers
i dont think the divorce had finalized yet though
I don't think it was Beast though. I dunno why.
She and Clark only had like what... one scene together in that epi before she went off with Davis yeah? The one in Watchtower where she gave him the false lead.
I dunno.
loislanechick
06-19-2009, 09:18 AM
Yes, she did mention her divorce at the end of Stiletto.
mr lane
06-19-2009, 09:19 AM
I don't think it was Beast though. I dunno why.
She and Clark only had like what... one scene together in that epi before she went off with Davis yeah? The one in Watchtower where she gave him the false lead.
I dunno.
maybe eternal
for some reason i dont think it was a Lois ep
eternal was when they found out the truth about Davis right?
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 09:20 AM
maybe eternal
for some reason i dont think it was a Lois ep
eternal was when they found out the truth about Davis right?
Yeah they found out about Davis in Eternal.
I dunno, my head seems to be screaming Stiletto at me right now.
mr lane
06-19-2009, 09:22 AM
Yeah they found out about Davis in Eternal.
I dunno, my head seems to be screaming Stiletto at me right now.
ill go back and watch them
cloisthelegendbegins
06-19-2009, 09:23 AM
Thanks guys. I wondered. I can remember her referring to Jimmy as her 'ex' in Stiletto when she was talking about Facebook, but it's a pretty generic term and at no time could I remember a line about a divorce or it being finalized. Just seems awfully convenient to me. But then considering some of the writing choices on this show when it comes to suspension of belief I shouldn't be surprised.
If anyone knows the specific episode it would be great. But no great worry. :)
loislanechick
06-19-2009, 09:26 AM
It was Stiletto. Clark asked her if she was ok, and she said that after her divorce, brainiac and everything she just needed a little time off..or something like that. But Stiletto fo sure.
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 09:29 AM
It was Stiletto. Clark asked her if she was ok, and she said that after her divorce, brainiac and everything she just needed a little time off..or something like that. But Stiletto fo sure.
Yeah.
Its Stiletto.
triplet
06-19-2009, 09:32 AM
it was either stiletto or beast
she mentioned divorce papers
i dont think the divorce had finalized yet though
I think she used the word 'divorced' but I don't remember the episode. although I'm pretty sure I had mentioned it in a review. However, I couldn't find the reference.
Just so you know, if you're legally separated before a pending divorce, it frees you to do whatever you want with whomever.
So, even if they hadn't been divorced by Beast, but where legally separated, it's not adultery.
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 09:34 AM
I think she used the word 'divorced' but I don't remember the episode. although I'm pretty sure I had mentioned it in a review. However, I couldn't find the reference.
Just so you know, if you're legally separated before a pending divorce, it frees you to do whatever you want with whomever.
So, even if they hadn't been divorced by Beast, but where legally separated, it's not adultery.
Jimmy said to Lois in Stiletto;
"I'm flattered, but i just broke up with Chloe"
mr lane
06-19-2009, 09:41 AM
I think she used the word 'divorced' but I don't remember the episode. although I'm pretty sure I had mentioned it in a review. However, I couldn't find the reference.
Just so you know, if you're legally separated before a pending divorce, it frees you to do whatever you want with whomever.
So, even if they hadn't been divorced by Beast, but where legally separated, it's not adultery.
but it still doesn't make it right...well in IMO especially when she knew what davis was and that jimmy was right and the whole reason they left each other was a big screw up on Chloe's part
Jimmy said to Lois in Stiletto;
"I'm flattered, but i just broke up with Chloe"
but breaking up and still being married arent the same? it takes longer than 3 eps to get divorced but this is SV!
loislanechick
06-19-2009, 09:41 AM
Clark: I know you better thatn that, this is not about computer. What's wrong?
Chloe: Nothing..really I'm fine. It's just that after my divorce and brainiac and now playing watchtower for a bunch of needy superheroes...etc...
Stiletto :)
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 09:43 AM
Clark: I know you better thatn that, this is not about computer. What's wrong?
Chloe: Nothing..really I'm fine. It's just that after my divorce and brainiac and now playing watchtower for a bunch of needy superheroes...etc...
Stiletto :)
There we go.
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----
but breaking up and still being married arent the same? it takes longer than 3 eps to get divorced but this is SV!
Annulment.
loislanechick
06-19-2009, 09:46 AM
Yes, maybe they simply annul their marriage. Btw, I love AM's acting in stiletto.
mr lane
06-19-2009, 09:47 AM
There we go.
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----
Annulment.
then why didnt they mention annulment instead of divorced? it sounds more nice
loislanechick
06-19-2009, 09:49 AM
Well chloe mentioned divorce. I don't know when they menaged to get a divorce but hey, this is smallville..anything is possible.
mr lane
06-19-2009, 09:50 AM
There we go.
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----
Annulment.
Well chloe mentioned divorce. I don't know when they menaged to get a divorce but hey, this is smallville..anything is possible.
they show doesnt count on us actually being semi smart :lol:
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 10:17 AM
then why didnt they mention annulment instead of divorced? it sounds more nice
No idea.
I assumed she meant annulement because as far as i'm aware don't you have to be married for over a year before you get a divorce? I dunno.
triplet
06-19-2009, 11:51 AM
No idea.
I assumed she meant annulement because as far as i'm aware don't you have to be married for over a year before you get a divorce? I dunno.
I'm no lawyer, but the laws on divorce depend on the state. I don't think that there is any minimum time before you can apply for a divorce.
Look at some of the Hollywood weddings, they get divorced after a few days sometimes...
It happens, how it can happen so quickly I don't know, but SV isn't one to follow logic all the time.
They let them to get married apparently only to have Doomsday break up the place after and then take Chloe away, so why not give Chloe and Jimmy a quickie divorce for equally contrived reasons?
Jaderoyale
06-19-2009, 12:11 PM
I'm no lawyer, but the laws on divorce depend on the state. I don't think that there is any minimum time before you can apply for a divorce.
Look at some of the Hollywood weddings, they get divorced after a few days sometimes...
It happens, how it can happen so quickly I don't know, but SV isn't one to follow logic all the time.
Well i'm British. So i guess its different here :)
They let them to get married apparently only to have Doomsday break up the place after and then take Chloe away, so why not give Chloe and Jimmy a quickie divorce for equally contrived reasons?
This is SV after all.
npower1
06-21-2009, 01:18 AM
The use of the word 'divorce' rather than 'separation' or 'annulment' or some other word just demonstrates the writers lack of attention to detail. If you go back to season 4 you will find the words 'descendant' and 'ancestor' misused (without any research I think that the wrong use is made by Mrs. Teague).
Bannikus
06-21-2009, 12:30 PM
Wow...so many posts dedicated to whether,or not, Chloe and Jimmy were divorced/annulled/separated. If only the network & producers cared that much about details.
On the first subject,I'd say they were annulled. In most cases a marriage has to be consumated in order to be legally binding. Chloe and Jimmy didn't get the chance to consumate thanks to "Doomsday". So,they would've had their marriage annulled. Chloe may have said "divorced" simply because it's a word used much more in society,therefore more accepting,conversationally.
On the second subject,the network/producers don't care about those tiny details. They want to make as much money as they can,for as little expense as possible. I'm sure that's why Clark hasn't been flying all over the place. It costs a lot more for the flying effects than it does for the speed-running effects. And this show already has a big budget for the effects they DO use,compared to most shows on TV. This is also why there's so many "reality" programs nowadays...it's much cheaper to produce,therefore more profitable than regular programming. The actors in these "reality" programs are amateurs trying to get their "foot in the door",or has-beens trying to get back in the door,so they're cheaply paid. And,there's no budget for special effects. Smallville will need more money in order to bring fans the quality show they crave(ie:Clark flying every episode). The only way they can do that is to lessen the budget for actors....(ie:let go some actors that have been with the show for a long time...sans Michael Rosenbaum,John Glover,Kristen Kreuk,John Schneider,etc..) Aaron Ashmore(aka Jimmy) may be just the beginning of these current cuts. Allison Mack(aka Chloe) will probably be next,then Justin Hartley(Green Arrow/Oliver Queen). And they'll bring in some "new blood"(ie:cheaper actors) to replace them as new characters. Perhaps bring back Pete Ross,with a different actor.
justme_007
06-23-2009, 03:19 PM
Clark: I know you better thatn that, this is not about computer. What's wrong?
Chloe: Nothing..really I'm fine. It's just that after my divorce and brainiac and now playing watchtower for a bunch of needy superheroes...etc...
Stiletto :)
So does divorce in this sentence have another meaning like annulment? I ask because english is not my first language
loislanechick
06-23-2009, 03:50 PM
So does divorce in this sentence have another meaning like annulment? I ask because english is not my first language
Well, she used the word divorce, but no one is really sure whether they actually got divorced or not. I think they did, somehow, because chloe after all did say a divorce.
stargirl14
06-25-2009, 08:58 PM
I give it a 1! There was a commercial every time something happened! I wonder when lois accidently went into the future, you would think that the legion would immediately send her back, because they shouldhave known about her accidently being sent there. I dont think jimmy should have died, but the part where chloe gave his brother jimmys camera, that was cute, and yes, it was very sappy! Why did she even have the camere there with her at the funeral? That was a little wierd to me. I really dont know why everyone is talking about stiletto! She is a fake wanna-be superhero, who has absoutely no powers,no care for the citizens, unlike clark, and somewhat oliver queen.
cloisthelegendbegins
06-26-2009, 03:02 AM
I really dont know why everyone is talking about stiletto! She is a fake wanna-be superhero, who has absoutely no powers,no care for the citizens, unlike clark, and somewhat oliver queen.
Establishing a time-line for Chloe & Jimmy's supposed divorce/annulment. Opinions on Stiletto would be in the Stiletto episode thread where I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to debate this with. :\
sebari77
06-26-2009, 03:16 AM
I like checking in on this thread once a week just to make sure the forum continues to re-affirm how much this episode sucked.
The poll results continue to form the shape of a capital letter "L".
Well done, SV fans. Well done.
One of my general critiques of this community is that it's usually been far too lenient for SV's evolutionary mistakes after episode 100.
My routine for watching SV episodes is to DV-R it, and check in on the forum and glance at the poll results to see if the forum thinks it's a good episode. Now, in order to do this, I'd have to perform some basic math - the results would always skew far far too positively; so I'd have to adjust to gauge the real depth of reaction.
But this 8th season, you guys finally had enough and spoke some truth. The poll results on the Lana 2-sharter and this finale, you guys went from too easy to grim-truth-tellers. I didn't need to adjust the results for those; those three episodes scored (what seemed to me unprecedented) levels of 1's and 2's.... and I see this one still has "1" as the leading vote-getter by far.
Well done, folks; well done. And although I think it'd be daft for the producers and writers to follow any specific advice on this forum, getting the general pulse is something they should definitely do; learn some hard lessons, and fix. the. problems!
/soapbox
Dean_19
07-03-2009, 11:28 AM
I thought it was a good finale!
Maybe not as good as previous seasons, but still cool. The Doomsday/Clark fight was a little disappointing, but Clark did grab the dude and push him all the way to the tunnel thing though which was kinda cool. But I mean why do they expect a heap of rock to hold Doomsday? He is like the 'ultimate destroyer' so surely he would be able to survive the explosion and punch his way through fairly easily? Superman could so I don't see why Doomsday couldn't.
But some stuff was real cool. I was surprised at the whole Henry Olsen thing but it makes sense and ties up that particular part of Smallville closer to the mythos. I like that.
I also love the way Clark came to the conclusion at the end he has to leave and that how all this time he thought his kryptonian self was a worry, but really it was his human side. I think the writers did well with that side of things. The way he faded when he walked away from Chloe was a bit cliche though, better if he'd just walked out.
All in all though I thought it was pretty cool.
Kikachu
07-12-2009, 05:57 PM
I've seen every single episode of SV and over the past 3-4 years or so, I've had a love/hate relationship with it. I stopped watching the episodes as they've aired on Thursday nights, and instead started DVR-ing all of them just in case I decide I want to keep watching.
After (FINALLY) watching the S8 finale from saved DVR, I am firmly in the "HATE" column. If I want to be continually depressed by watching TV, I'll tune in to whatever crap "reality" series FOX, NBC, or another of the network stations is airing.
How many years are we going to wait for Clark to "accept his destiny" and become the "hero" he's supposed to be. I'll take Oliver McQueen over Clark Kent any time! How many times does CK have to let the villian kill innocent people he cares about before he realizes not every life is worth saving (apparently, more than several years' worth of more of the same - and still no enlightenment). The storylines and finales year after year are always the same - Clark and Chloe trading off guilt-ridden monologues about how everything they do is to protect the other one, blah, blah, blah; Clark fights bad guy du jour while sacrificing any personal happiness, blah, blah, blah; and then next year everyone will have forgotten all about the horrible, illegal, murderous act so-and-so committed the previous season and go back to forming relationships with them (a la Lionel, Lex, Lana, Tess, Oliver...). Come up with something new already! At least with most season finales we at least get a good fight scene out of it!
Disappointing is an understatement! I'm done. The "record series" button is going 'off' on the DVR. :mad:
tibbit78
07-13-2009, 08:00 PM
Welcome, Kikachu.
Clarksucks000
07-15-2009, 08:33 PM
My biggest problem with the season finale: Why were Lois and Tess fighting? Stupidest time-filler ever. Nothing to do with anything.
run away
07-17-2009, 12:17 PM
I was expecting more from it!
Even dough the fight between Lois and Tess had nothing much to do with the story, it was more spectacular than the fight between Clark and Doomsday.
The cliffhanger, Lois taking the ring, I did like.
losdrivaren
07-18-2009, 12:29 PM
She took the ring and maybe eraze tess?
But the epizode was less than I was wating for:(
I was hoping on at least 15 minutes ck vs doomsday... It was like less than 30 seconds, that realy sucked!
But ZOD IS COMING!!!
npower1
07-23-2009, 04:38 AM
First, the background to the following comment; I have just finished re watching every episode of Smallville.
I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on this final season 8 episode. I think these are related to seeing this episode in isolation. If there wasn't a season 9 expected and and no preceding episodes I could understand most of the negative thoughts on this episode. However this season has a different flavour to preceding seasons. Season 1 was very much a season of individual episodes that could, and were designed to be, viewed as one offs. To a large extent this continued in subsequent seasons although the producers moved to include story arcs that spanned several episodes. I see this as moving from aiming for each episode's individual viewer numbers, a requirement to get subsequent funding, to telling a story. That is, a move from the purely commercial to the artistic. (The writers strike caused a glitch in this evolution.)
This change of emphasis requires a change of attitude by the viewer. This is similar to reading a book of short stories and reading a novel. When reading a book of short stories you can put it down at the end of one and then pick it up a week later and start on a new story without having to remember details of the story you last read. If you do the same with a novel it won't make sense - you have to remember the previous parts to make today's reading worthwhile. The most compelling argument to support this view of season 8 is some of the criticism of the acting and 'out of character' events (see Tiplet's reviews). Both these criticisms of episode X are resolved in episode X+1 (or two or three). (Think Chloe being taken over by brainiac.)
Hence, a lot of the negative thoughts about this episode will, hopefully, be resolved in the first episode, or first few episodes, of season 9.
jogo31
07-23-2009, 06:13 AM
10 Points for the Final.
It was different to other finals. But that doesn't matter IMO. There wasn't just one cliffhanger as usual but there were a lot of "personal cliffhangers". What's happend to Clark? What's happend to Lois? What's happend to Doomsday? What's happend to Tess? And what's this Zod-thing?. This all make me waiting for Season 9, to see and hear answers.
nhl2k
07-23-2009, 06:59 AM
First, the background to the following comment; I have just finished re watching every episode of Smallville.
I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on this final season 8 episode. I think these are related to seeing this episode in isolation. If there wasn't a season 9 expected and and no preceding episodes I could understand most of the negative thoughts on this episode. However this season has a different flavour to preceding seasons. Season 1 was very much a season of individual episodes that could, and were designed to be, viewed as one offs. To a large extent this continued in subsequent seasons although the producers moved to include story arcs that spanned several episodes. I see this as moving from aiming for each episode's individual viewer numbers, a requirement to get subsequent funding, to telling a story. That is, a move from the purely commercial to the artistic. (The writers strike caused a glitch in this evolution.)
This change of emphasis requires a change of attitude by the viewer. This is similar to reading a book of short stories and reading a novel. When reading a book of short stories you can put it down at the end of one and then pick it up a week later and start on a new story without having to remember details of the story you last read. If you do the same with a novel it won't make sense - you have to remember the previous parts to make today's reading worthwhile. The most compelling argument to support this view of season 8 is some of the criticism of the acting and 'out of character' events (see Tiplet's reviews). Both these criticisms of episode X are resolved in episode X+1 (or two or three). (Think Chloe being taken over by brainiac.)
Hence, a lot of the negative thoughts about this episode will, hopefully, be resolved in the first episode, or first few episodes, of season 9.
So I have to change MY attitude to enjoy a show? I don't think so. I don't think most people here forget that season one was a compilation of FOTW episodes. And if you think we are the ones who have trouble remembering what happened, maybe you should ask that question of the people writing the show. When triplet gets excited about the few times they reference previous plots, or finds that when they do it's inconsistent, that's not a good thing. And I really don't see any references from you about how this stacks up as a season finale. If you think the general disappointment in the Clark vs Doomsday episode is a result of our attitude, then again, you should blame the show for making the finale to be a big deal (and this is based off of everything we've seen with Doomsday ALL SEASON LONG as well as the promotion of the episode) when instead it was a "Ouch I got hit, let me drive you into the ground and let you guess how I got out but another super-alien didn't" moment.
If we got used to better season finales than this, then I'd say great to everyone involved in the show in prior seasons, as they have raised the quality of the show in subsequent seasons. But to say it's our problem our expectations weren't met for a low-class episode, then I think that's dead wrong.
I realize this thread is mainly about whether YOU liked it or not, but you shouldn't be telling everyone who doesn't agree with you that we should change because we're not watching the show correctly.
losdrivaren
07-24-2009, 06:36 AM
First, the background to the following comment; I have just finished re watching every episode of Smallville.
I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on this final season 8 episode. I think these are related to seeing this episode in isolation. If there wasn't a season 9 expected and and no preceding episodes I could understand most of the negative thoughts on this episode. However this season has a different flavour to preceding seasons. Season 1 was very much a season of individual episodes that could, and were designed to be, viewed as one offs. To a large extent this continued in subsequent seasons although the producers moved to include story arcs that spanned several episodes. I see this as moving from aiming for each episode's individual viewer numbers, a requirement to get subsequent funding, to telling a story. That is, a move from the purely commercial to the artistic. (The writers strike caused a glitch in this evolution.)
This change of emphasis requires a change of attitude by the viewer. This is similar to reading a book of short stories and reading a novel. When reading a book of short stories you can put it down at the end of one and then pick it up a week later and start on a new story without having to remember details of the story you last read. If you do the same with a novel it won't make sense - you have to remember the previous parts to make today's reading worthwhile. The most compelling argument to support this view of season 8 is some of the criticism of the acting and 'out of character' events (see Tiplet's reviews). Both these criticisms of episode X are resolved in episode X+1 (or two or three). (Think Chloe being taken over by brainiac.)
Hence, a lot of the negative thoughts about this episode will, hopefully, be resolved in the first episode, or first few episodes, of season 9.
It was not the season that sucked. They just getting better and better... more speciell effects. But they should have put more focuse on doomsday vs ck not just one ore two punch... And then a far jump. It's looks like they have problems with cash ore they just going to make ck into superman next season=a lot of money so they can make it lokk good when he flys etc.
losdrivaren
07-29-2009, 06:15 AM
So I have to change MY attitude to enjoy a show? I don't think so. I don't think most people here forget that season one was a compilation of FOTW episodes. And if you think we are the ones who have trouble remembering what happened, maybe you should ask that question of the people writing the show. When triplet gets excited about the few times they reference previous plots, or finds that when they do it's inconsistent, that's not a good thing. And I really don't see any references from you about how this stacks up as a season finale. If you think the general disappointment in the Clark vs Doomsday episode is a result of our attitude, then again, you should blame the show for making the finale to be a big deal (and this is based off of everything we've seen with Doomsday ALL SEASON LONG as well as the promotion of the episode) when instead it was a "Ouch I got hit, let me drive you into the ground and let you guess how I got out but another super-alien didn't" moment.
If we got used to better season finales than this, then I'd say great to everyone involved in the show in prior seasons, as they have raised the quality of the show in subsequent seasons. But to say it's our problem our expectations weren't met for a low-class episode, then I think that's dead wrong.
I realize this thread is mainly about whether YOU liked it or not, but you shouldn't be telling everyone who doesn't agree with you that we should change because we're not watching the show correctly.
Give up the self defending attitude... It was if you loved the epizode not about how bad it's become. write in general smallville disskution forum instead.
Leave this fomrum to the pros:D
nhl2k
07-29-2009, 06:46 AM
Give up the self defending attitude... It was if you loved the epizode not about how bad it's become. write in general smallville disskution forum instead.
Leave this fomrum to the pros:D
You obviously didn't comprehend the point of my post at all. Good job, pro :rotfl:
9-SOSIHTWB
07-29-2009, 08:21 AM
The 'Clark Kent is Dead' cliffhanger was quite smart because finally he is accepting his destiny and many fans have been waiting years for that to happen!!!
x20ArchAngel09x
07-30-2009, 01:05 AM
I give it a 6, just because it started out good and had Lois zapped to an unknown date into the future. :) Other than that, is seemed way too rushed at the end. But, finally Clark is beginning to accept his fate and followe the advice of Jor-El, something I bet he regets not listening to ever since Season 3. It just took him some time to experience why. Oh, and I can't forget Zod!:)
losdrivaren
07-30-2009, 08:24 AM
Zod is amsing perfect match for ck:D
I wonder if lex have some part of it all?
Damian Wayne
08-01-2009, 11:45 AM
They completely got the Doomsday character WRONG. The only thing right was the look, when he didn't look human. They also killed off a permanent character from the Superman universe.
Who writes this tripe?
captian awesome
08-07-2009, 12:29 AM
i though it was good i gave it a 9 but i think the fight scene could of been better but i thnk the story was good if you've read the comic the death of superman were superman dies because i think they were trying to re interpet that comic by saying clark was dead lol
losdrivaren
08-09-2009, 01:12 AM
maybe baby:p
But doomis and ck will meet and fight in season 9 for shore.
He can not have died, he's the worlds destroyer!:D
skully
08-09-2009, 02:25 AM
Hehehe. Hex cracked 300 perfect 10s while Doomsday has cracked 300 imperfect 1s. :D
gj430
08-17-2009, 07:46 PM
[QUOTE=Damian Wayne;5182601]They also killed off a permanent character from the Superman universe.QUOTE]
Actually they didn't because the real Jimmy was his brother at the funeral.
I only really had an issue with the Doomsday fight. At very least could have had Clark punch a couple times.
funky_town021
08-21-2009, 03:44 PM
i gave this episode a 10 cause i thought it was fantastic. to me, they did something different, instead of ending the episode with Clark in a climatic way, the chose to end it with the Tess and the device and who know who...
i thought that was great, i like it when they try and do something different and they teased the Clark vs Doomsday fight which i can kind of understand, since they want to save the real battle for Superman. although, it would've been nice to see Clark vs. Davis but whatever.
Everything ended kind of sad, Jimmy dying, Clark losing faith in humanity, Lois missing, etc. It kind of reflects the name of the episode, Doomsday.
It would've been nice if the episode was an extra hr or another half hr, but overall the episode was a great way to end the season and setup the next one.
dotsie23
08-21-2009, 03:49 PM
[QUOTE=Damian Wayne;5182601]They also killed off a permanent character from the Superman universe.QUOTE]
Actually they didn't because the real Jimmy was his brother at the funeral.
I only really had an issue with the Doomsday fight. At very least could have had Clark punch a couple times.
I didn't understand why Clark didn't throw a punch either! It's like he's always holding back and in this case with Doomsday, he should've done more than just "tackle" him. It was also the same in that "battle" between Clark and Zod it seems like the only time I ever saw Clark through a real punch was in that fight with Titan in Combat.
Hopefulsuicide
08-23-2009, 12:03 PM
It's very much nice and reassuring when an episode I hated that much, gets more 1s than 10s... especially when it's over a hundred more :)
At the end of the day, I know that everyone has different opinions and some people will always try and look on the brightside and give it a better score than it really deserves, but to me voting 1 is a statement to the creaters... it says 'seriously, you have to do better than that!'
losdrivaren
08-24-2009, 08:02 AM
Against Titan he really fought for reel:D
That fight is legend...
And against aquaman:D They never let ck become what hes ment to be, Superman:S
Tompouce
08-25-2009, 10:33 AM
I was just there to check the votes so if we look at the numbers above the 5 (I counted from 1 to 4 and 6 to 10), more people were happy with this finale than disappointed. I know the people who hate it, voted 1 and they were 322 but the average is good...
bennyjr123
08-25-2009, 06:06 PM
I have to say, I've been defending this episode a lot, but I did notice something that really bothered me. I finally know why this didn't really make a good finale. In every single Finale, the last person we see is Clark. Tempest clark running into the tornado. Exodus, Clark riding away. Covenant, Clark being reborn. Commencement, throwing the crystal. Vessel, In the phantom Zone. Phantom, though this technically wasn't clark it was tom welling. And even in Arctic, Clark inside the fortress. This season we got Tess mercer and Zod. That's why it felt more like a normal ending then a season finale.
Theshadow129x
08-26-2009, 06:54 PM
the problem with the episode wasnt because they didtn show Clark in the last shot, it was with the pacing of the show and the leaps in logic and characterization. the jimmy we had on the show was the person they called james olsen for years only for them to pull a 180 and say oh yeah it wasnt jimmy at all it was jimmy olsens older brother henry in which they gave no knowledge of him ever being or existing. and also clark saying his human side was dangerous...again. we went through this before yet the show reverts back to the same thing where he has to learn the same thing all over AGAIN.
not to mention the fact that after they freed doomsday, the character would have slaughtered the entire room of characters and made sure no one in there would survive, yet in this finale they completely messed that up and let doomsday walk out of that room without slaughtering the lot of them.
it was a bad episode overall and i would truly hope they fix this soon because i grow tired of going back to the same stuff every year or so.
funky_town021
08-28-2009, 06:01 PM
not to mention the fact that after they freed doomsday, the character would have slaughtered the entire room of characters and made sure no one in there would survive, yet in this finale they completely messed that up and let doomsday walk out of that room without slaughtering the lot of them.
i'll admit the first time i saw that, i was like huh? cause i would've imagined that Doomsday wouldve killed Davis and Chloe as well as injuring everyone else, and that wouldve been interesting if the beast killed his human side, that was one road they could've gone but i think the reason that Doomsday didnt kill anyone was because now that he was free of his human side, he could focus on searching for Clark, and so he swatted everyone in his way instead of killing them, since they were no real threat to him, and he was programed to find and destroy Clark (with the exception of Bride, where he was programmed to take Chloe to the Fortress) but thats how i interpret that scene, he was just plowing through stuff looking for Clark, reminds me of the comics when Doomsday is just destroying stuff from left to right until he runs into Superman
russ72
08-29-2009, 02:09 PM
Well finally got to see season 8 and was very excited at the anticipation of Doomsday/Clark fight. It was sad to say a very,very disappointed episode and have no clue what they were thinking.
Overall season 8 was decent and as always building up anticipation and story line was good. Im just not sure why they didn't make an epic fight between clark/dooms which could of easily been achievable. They could of even worked in Clarks death as well to follow the comic books. this was just a major let down,they could of done a special 3 episode to cover this. They did a good job of building up Davis and his lust for Chloe,but it just fell short :(
Theshadow129x
09-01-2009, 04:38 AM
i'll admit the first time i saw that, i was like huh? cause i would've imagined that Doomsday wouldve killed Davis and Chloe as well as injuring everyone else, and that wouldve been interesting if the beast killed his human side, that was one road they could've gone but i think the reason that Doomsday didnt kill anyone was because now that he was free of his human side, he could focus on searching for Clark, and so he swatted everyone in his way instead of killing them, since they were no real threat to him, and he was programed to find and destroy Clark (with the exception of Bride, where he was programmed to take Chloe to the Fortress) but thats how i interpret that scene, he was just plowing through stuff looking for Clark, reminds me of the comics when Doomsday is just destroying stuff from left to right until he runs into Superman
no....n-no. Doomsday's mission was to completely eviscerate every living thing is in way. That's his purpose. not to just find Clark and kill him. That would leave the character after clark is dead with nothing to do. the character's main function was to kill everyone. thats how it worked throughout the whole season of this show and then the minute he was free from davis he lets them go? it was the most questionable part of the whole episode to be honest. i was more puzzled by that than I was of the fight scene. it was just out of character for a character who has but one characteristic lol.
Mars Investigations
09-01-2009, 11:13 AM
I loved everything except the Clark/Doomsday stuff.
rockyshadow
09-07-2009, 11:31 PM
I liked the Clois/Bliss parts as well as the Clark/Jimmy scene. Jimmy's death scene makes me cry each and every time I see it.
almighty15
09-09-2009, 05:31 PM
I gave it a 5 it was not good at all
Gan-EL: the last son
09-09-2009, 08:24 PM
I give the finale a 7/10 for the short Doomsday fight and "henry Olsen" crap
russ72
09-09-2009, 11:21 PM
You think they will bring Doomsday back? Ya,he got buried but that doesn't mean he's dead at all.
I know they got the whole DD story wrong,but i actually found this alot better than whats given credit. I don't mind them changing stuff from comic/cartoon to adapt it to TV or even them creating their own origin(Davis part at least). I really enjoyed the Davis aspect of Doomsday it gave it a different aspect to the story..
I'm just disappointed that this was one of Supermans biggest fights and they kindof let it go to waste. I would of liked to seen a 2hour season finale with doing the fight right,get some good choreographer to do the battle,kill supes(like in the comic,though he wasn't really dead per say),and let it tie into next season.....
*I did enjoy most of the other stuff in the last episode to make up for this lack of battle..I for some reason enjoyed the talk between Clark-RedBlueBLur/Lois at the Daily Planet as it had good emotions along with a moving soundtrack with it..Plus I just hink Jimmie was probably the best character in last episode or two.
funky_town021
09-18-2009, 06:35 PM
just finished watching it on the cw (i refuse to watch my S8 dvd until i get my new tv) and i have to say this ep was better the 2nd time around. i liked it alot the 1st time, the 2nd time even better. especially the Clark/Chloe scene in the end.
actaeon
09-19-2009, 06:05 AM
I liked it better the second time around too. The episode was rushed, a lot of stuff thrown at the viewer without (I think) them taking the time to develop the ideas. So it just made more sense on the second viewing.
Most importantly, I better understand why Clark feels he must repress his human side. I also picked up on the dual meaning of Chloe's remark about "I know who killed Jimmy, I was standing right here". At first I thought she just meant Davis. Now I think she may have been referring to herself as responsible for Jimmy's death. Interesting...
I still don't get why Bart and Black Canary are missing...
funky_town021
09-19-2009, 12:57 PM
I liked it better the second time around too. The episode was rushed, a lot of stuff thrown at the viewer without (I think) them taking the time to develop the ideas. So it just made more sense on the second viewing.
Most importantly, I better understand why Clark feels he must repress his human side. I also picked up on the dual meaning of Chloe's remark about "I know who killed Jimmy, I was standing right here". At first I thought she just meant Davis. Now I think she may have been referring to herself as responsible for Jimmy's death. Interesting...
I still don't get why Bart and Black Canary are missing...
yeh, i agree that it was kind of rushed. like, they compressed everything into 45 mins when an extra half hr would've helped it, but whatever.
like i was curious when Chloe said that Oliver found a way to kill Davis, and he pulled out an arrow and was aiming for Davis. did he have some sort of special arrow? Or, did he really think that one of his special arrows could actually kill Davis before he transforms into the beast?
The Chloe/Clark scene was more clearer now. i thought she was referring to Davis when she said 'i know who killed jimmy' since Clark said 'it wasnt a kryptonian beast who killed him, it was a human.' and she meant that it was Davis, like not Doomsday but Davis' real self, i guess, if that makes any sense, but i like your theory, that she balmes herself, which would make sense.
Black Canary and Impulse are porbably missing for whatever reason Green Arrow's gone. maybe they blame themselves too for Jimmy's death and betraying Clark. or they're disappointed with Green Arrow's ways since he's willing to kill unlike Clark.
tibbit78
09-19-2009, 02:20 PM
I watched it the second time around, also. I'm really going to miss Aaron Ashmore as Jimmy Olson and Sam Witwer as Davis Bloome/Doomsday. I especially going to miss that wonderful music: The Doomsday music.
SGuthrie27
09-19-2009, 05:08 PM
I do say I liked elements of it more the second time through... I was able to view it much more objectively, I guess. I STILL can't say enough about how awesome the "Jimmy learns the secret" scene was. Fan-TASTIC! "It's like you're some super... guy!" :D LOL! Too cool... Having Bart and Dinah there at all, and seeing the Regan flashback video... I love nods to old characters making return appearances, even if it without using their powers (in the case of the JLAers) or just on video. The Doomsday fight STARTED out cool, but it was SO lame that we didn't get to see any of the tussle in that actual geothermal facility. Why couldn't they have given us just 2-3 minutes of Oliver, Dinah, Bart, and Clark battling Doomsday before Clark got him into that shaft/tunnel thing? The Chlark scene at the end was heartbreaking, but I have to admit, beautifully done, as was the funeral for Jimmy. Jimmy and Chloe's scene together was so tender that I almost felt a momentary pang of Chimmy-love... almost. Or maybe it was just indigestion. Anyway... I wasn't too keen on the "Davis really is a serial killer, beast-inside-him or not" angle, and I know a lot of Chlavisers (I don't count myself among them, though I do see the chemistry) didn't either. It seemed like too much of a lightswitch change for him to do what he did. And don't get me started on the "Jimmy is Henry" retcon. I STILL can't stand that. On the positive side, the Tess/Lois fight was pretty cool, and I like the concept of Lois getting beamed into the future and coming back with fleeting glimpses of what is to come. Chloe getting the Watchtower was pretty awesome as well (despite the oddness of Jimmy being able to magically afford it). Clark also just seemed so super-heroic throughout the entire episode (up until the end). I was on his side until the bitter end in how he was trying to protect a life at all costs. Of course, it ended tragically, but I understand, sympathize with, and for the most part agree with Clark's point of view compared to Oliver's. What happened with Jimmy and Davis taught them all something major about the nature of heroism and villainy... Hopefully all the characters will come back stronger due to the trials they experienced at the end of Season 8.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
DreadShamus
10-02-2009, 06:20 PM
They apparently realized Jimmy was irrelevant before he even became so in the series. The comic wasn't long in following their example.
NadiaBreca
10-18-2009, 01:15 PM
0? :mad::lol:
Clark/Lois-fan
11-08-2009, 02:58 PM
It's still one heck of an awesome season finale. Though they should have ended the season with Clark instead of Zod.
I'll truly miss Aaron- he was awesome. When Clark told him he was the RBB, Aarons facial expression gave me tears in my eyes along with the awesome music that was provided in this scene.
Smallville_Fan_RJK
11-17-2009, 11:59 AM
Before I begin to start my review of "Doomsday" there is one thing I would like to tell or show ALL you Smallville fans - Now I definitely thought the Season finale was a disappointment but it also was enjoyable. But I searched, tallied, counted and did ALL the math on EVERY single "Doomsday" review or critique I could find and here's what I came up with:
94,208 = 6.71 (67,1%)
14,032
Now, for everyone who thinks the Season Finale was a complete bomb, the numbers prove that, although it was a middling Season Finale, it definitely isn't bad. To my belief, a 67.1% equals a B-. But then again, everyone is entitled to their opinion...
REVIEW: Based on what promise Season 8 showed, I was expecting such a phenomenal finale with Clark and Doomsday and the build-up was almost unbearable to me; then it came and honestly, I was disappointed but after a while, I thought about it and at least (to me) it was a little better than Season 7's "Arctic". Sure the fight was short and considerably weak but the episode itself had redeeming quality until they kill Jimmy, which shouldn't have happened but I guess I didn't really mind but his exit was honorable. "Doomsday" kept me anticipating Season 9's premiere and even though it promised greatness and disappointed us, it managed to be enjoyable and kept me entertained even though it should've been better. So overall, "Doomsday" gets a 7 out of 10 from me - Not great, not bad. I just wish people though would be a little more fair with what it is...
Nimkong
03-06-2010, 10:09 AM
This episode is the worst season finale.I only liked the plot.But i dident like the ending and the doomsday fight was short
losdrivaren
03-07-2010, 04:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noedf3JhFYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A60XIrP9kA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUORL-bvwA0
watch and feel true superman/Kal-El/Stålmannen(superman in swedish)/ Clark Kent when he is one his peak:D
Last Son of Vern
06-26-2010, 10:44 PM
I remember watching the episode a bit late on tape after first discovering that the majority of actively vocal fans seemed to think it was the worst. thing. ever. Obviously, that remains the visible consensus in fandom.
But me? Well, I thought that, for the most part, Doomsday was an entertaining story despite some letdowns. Then again, while I am obviously fond of superhero characters, I generally tend to prefer storytelling and character development over action content.
My biggest complaint was the Henry thing. Ashmore's character was plenty young enough in my book to pass; the issue of his exact age was a relatively petty detail and a weak argument for why his identity got retconned. He gave us a definitive Jimmy that should have helped contribute to that character's mythos. But now, with the deed done, I wouldn't mind some sort of reference to James Bartholomew having been inspired by a late brother who loved film noir. Perhaps it could even be implied somehow that the famous CK fedora (later handed down to Ron Troupe) was a gift from Henry.
As for the infamous mini-battle, there was one thing I really needed to see there: Enough of a taste of Clark's early experience with the monster to really drive home the point that this was the one thing in the known universe tough enough to potentially one day beat Clark to death. What we got, most notably a shot of Clark's flapping bloody jaw, was technically something more than nothing, though it certainly could have been lots more after the buildup.
Interestingly, I've noticed some tribute paid to the show and this episode in recent issues of the Green Arrow comic. Turns out Ollie recently killed a bad guy (not his first). The bad guy happened to be called Prometheus. And Ollie had to face a bunch of his JLA peers after crossing the line, including a particular moment of tension with Clark. In the comic, what got Ollie to stop and reassess things was the danger of hitting a new bottom by corrupting Mia. His outfit, face and hair are also getting drawn a bit more like Justin.
fulfillingdestiny
09-06-2010, 10:41 PM
Unfortunately, I agree.
My rating of seven was, surprisingly for me, higher than what others had rated the episode.
I don't really understand why Zod is returning. We saw it already, with the brief arc in the Season 5 finale 'Vessel' through Season 6's premiere, 'Zod.' Perhaps part of the reason the producers are bringing the character back is because many fans complained before that Zod didn't last as long as he should have. Either way, I think the recycling of a character isn't the most engaging idea. As interesting as the arc of BrainIAC taking over Chloe was, it still was recycling another villain that we had already seen in Seasons 5 and 7. I thought bringing his soul or essence back was a bit anti-climactic, knowing that BrainIAC had essentially already been defeated twice, especially at the end of Season 7 when Clark destroys him with the electrical cable.
Also, "Clark Kent is dead?" Exact same line used in Season 3's premiere when Clark runs off and parties as Kal-El! Maybe that's what the writers of the episode were going for, trying to bring full-cirlce the psychology of knowing that Clark's Kryptonian
side is his truer side.
I liked that Clark was portrayed as not wanting to kill Davis, and that the Justice League came back to do the work of ridding themselves, and everyone, from Doomsday. It was great to see Bart Allen. But, they were a bit underused, in my opinion.
I'm not too worried about the abbreviated fight between Doomsday and Clark, for we have seen them fight on other episodes of the series. But Doomsday's end was a bit ambiguous. I'm sure that's actually what the producers were going for.
7/10, maybe 6/10.
shaun0207
11-01-2010, 03:37 PM
I've been rewatching all of the season to see what I may have missed. How the hell did I miss a this horrible ending????? I mean Doomsday was unstoppable. But they stopped him by burying him underground??? You gotta be kidding me. This is yeat another reason I think they should have had Zod for season 8, Doomsday for Season 9 and Darksied for Season 10. There is no way Clark should have beaten Doomsday so easily. He has other villains not even close to Doomsday's power and he locked them away in the Phantom Zone. He killed Titan (WWE's Kane) and walked away from it. But he took more a a beating from Titan. How did they screw Doomsday up so bad? They need to correct this before the show is over. Have Doomsday kill Kara or something. Have him controlled by Darkseid. They have to fix this. This has to be the worst season ending ever.
biggumt
12-08-2010, 01:24 AM
i'm still waiting for the post that blames lana for how horrible this episode was. :lol:
vantheman77
12-27-2010, 09:54 PM
Peterson and Souders are good with season premieres, but not season finales as this episode is an example why. Doomsday sums up about the 8th season in that it was more about Chloe than anyone else. The fight between Clark and Doomsday was weak as they had the budget to spend on the costume, but not on the fights and effects which makes it ridiculous. Even worse that the Jimmy Olsen who died is not the real Jimmy Olsen, but his brother Henry James Olsen. A sad ending to the 8th season.
Simba_Muffy
02-25-2011, 12:47 AM
Failsday.
1
menthys
04-03-2011, 03:29 PM
Hands down, one of the WORST episodes of Smallville, and the WORST season finale of all time! And WHY OH WHY wasn't a "0" rating available??
ebatcl
01-01-2012, 08:09 AM
The Clark-Doomsday fight, Jimmy's death...what a fail. At least, the LoTess fight was worth watching.
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