Ava/Fake Chloe

[KryptonChuck]

Chloe was not Chloe, she was Ava the assistant of Tess Mercer!! Ava is a meteor freak and shapeshifter. Ava was "part" of the Injustice League and was killed along with Livewire and Neutron

[hamburgers]

I had a feeling the whole time

[green_arrow_girl358]

that was ava greer, sister i'm guessing of tina greer from S1.

the question is, where is chloe now?!? we never touched base with her

[amandaa125]

I actually didnt see that coming! i thought it was a pretty good twist

[prodigykane]

It seemed very strange. I was scared there for a bit.

[Clana4Life]

I remember that Lana took a lot of flack from some fans for not recognizing that Bizarro was pretending to be Clark. Now we have a similar situation with Clark not realizing that this girl was not Chloe. Just like some said that Lana should know Clark better than anyone, and she should have known that Clark wasn't himself. Shouldn't Clark know Chloe better than anyone? Shouldn't he have known that she was not herself? Bizarro had me fooled during the first part of the episode when he first came back and talked to Lana in the barn. It wasn't until the end that I knew it was Bizarro, but I knew that it wasn't Chloe from pretty much the get go. I thought it was very obvious. I personally will cut Clark some slack just like I did for Lana. I don't blame them. Bizarro and Ava were very good at playing the parts of Clark and Chloe. I'm just wondering if those who thought Lana was at fault feel that Clark is at fault now, too?

[Diego*Chloe]

I remember that Lana took a lot of flack from some fans for not recognizing that Bizarro was pretending to be Clark. Now we have a similar situation with Clark not realizing that this girl was not Chloe. Just like some said that Lana should know Clark better than anyone, and she should have known that Clark wasn't himself. Shouldn't Clark know Chloe better than anyone? Shouldn't he have known that she was not herself? Bizarro had me fooled during the first part of the episode when he first came back and talked to Lana in the barn. It wasn't until the end that I knew it was Bizarro, but I knew that it wasn't Chloe from pretty much the get go. I thought it was very obvious. I personally will cut Clark some slack just like I did for Lana. I don't blame them. Bizarro and Ava were very good at playing the parts of Clark and Chloe. I'm just wondering if those who thought Lana was at fault feel that Clark is at fault now, too?

I do.

[AndiGirl]

Well....he didnt figure out Lois wasnt Lois in "Hex" either. :p
I think he was just very worked up. That was the point. Tess knew if she sent someone to Clark who looked like Chloe.....making implications of rape (thats what it sounded like she was hinting at on the couch), he wouldnt be thinking as clearly. He would just act on his anger.

So I think he was on an adrenaline high, and wasnt thinking that clearly in the beginning. He was just relieved to have Chloe back.

But he definitely caught on by the middle of the episode....

[Tatiana]

hey even we were confused lol or at least I was...but at least he did feel she was hiding something, so he wasn't completely blind to the fact something was off

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i think that's different in how lana acted because she was happier with the way bizarro Clark was acting cuz he was more romantic

[JEWCY]

Who was that person? Seemed like she was the 5th member of the Injustice League. They said it was one of Tess' former assistants or something like that? Anyone have a clue who that was?

['Tonio09]

Yeah she was the lady who recruited the shadow theif in Prey.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i think she was a new person.

[Aries83]

Her last name was also "Greer," right? Maybe she was related to Tina Greer, the shapeshifter from the first couple of seasons that was obsessed with Lana.

[dru-zod2501]

memories of Gemini are flooding my brain. AM was just as good with Bizarro-Chlo as Tom was for Bizarro-Clark

[Vergon6]

Her last name was also "Greer," right? Maybe she was related to Tina Greer, the shapeshifter from the first couple of seasons that was obsessed with Lana.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Ava has been in several episodes this season, but we just learned her last name.

[green_arrow_girl358]

pretty sure it was a relative of tina greer

[Vergon6]

I always thought it was Ava, but it's actually Eva. She was in "Instinct", "Committed", and "Prey" before this.

http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Eva

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Given that Eva was revealed to have powers, I am reminded of the original description of Tess, which suggested that Tess would have superhuman abilities. Maybe they decided to split the character the conceived Tess as originally up into Tess and Eva.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i had a feeling it was not her.

[Poyntz]

That Eva Grear part confuses me.

Tina didn't have siblings she just lived alone with her mother. She wanted to be Lana's Sister. Also she had her ablity because of a bone condition she had as a child then the meteor shower... This all left me very confused

[dru-zod2501]

Tess' assistant she used to eye hump at the start of the season? Tess is brutal

[SGuthrie27]

Ohhhhh, was she the one who talked to the shadow killer in "Prey?" That confused me, too. Why make her last name Greer if it wasn't a shout-out to Tina from "Visage" and "X-Ray?" Indeed, Poyntz, you made a lot of good points.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[xrayvision]

I guess BadToad will be putting 0 minutes for Chloe in this episode.

[Sunny8]

My take on the situation is that the reason why Lana was ridiculed so much was because she lived with Bizarro for a month and had sex with him. Clark never lived with Chloe and never had sex with her neither has he had sex with Lois. I think that was the main factor as to why Lana was not given a break. She should have known that the man she was having sex with was not the man she was supposedly in love with.

[mr lane]

My take on the situation is that the reason why Lana was ridiculed so much was because she lived with Bizarro for a month and had sex with him. Clark never lived with Chloe and never had sex with her neither has he had sex with Lois. I think that was the main factor as to why Lana was not given a break. She should have known that the man she was having sex with was not the man she was supposedly in love with.

Agreed

but i was disappointed that clark wouldn't xray Chloe to make sure she was ok physically after a run in with Doomsday which would allow him to find the GPS chip and raise a question of "hey why is there chip in your brain?!"

[BadToad]

I think its a bit much to compare Clark spending, maybe, 2 days with a lookalike Chloe to Lana's living and having sex with Bizarro for a month. Isn't that a bit apples and oranges?

As it was, faux Chloe didn't really act any different from real Chloe in the short time she was hanging around Clark. And when Clark confronted her on sending mixed messages, the jig was up.

[yomama]

Would Clark x-ray a friend without their permission?

[RedKRules]

I agree with BadToad....

I don´t think it can be fairly compared.

[mr lane]

Would Clark x-ray a friend without their permission?

you would think it would be ok if its for their well being

[O'Neill]

There are way too many technicalities with this show. For one, I was wondering why Clark didnt x-ray the fake Chloe when she started spazzin' out in the Isis room?

So clark doesnt x-ray without permission? Even if the persons life is on the line? its not like he was going to look under her skirt.

[chlo-el]

I think it was very telling. It just shows that Clark can be oblivious and he only sees what he wants to see. Similar to how Lana couldn't tell it was Clark because Bizarro told her everything she wanted to hear. And Clark was glad that Chloe was ok and it looked like she was a hostage and she didn't go with Davis willingly and had feelings for Davis. He just didn't want to admit it to himself.

[AndiGirl]

Agreed

but i was disappointed that clark wouldn't xray Chloe to make sure she was ok physically after a run in with Doomsday which would allow him to find the GPS chip and raise a question of "hey why is there chip in your brain?!"

I honestly thought that too...
but the way Chloe (or whoever the heck she was) was talking.....she was almost making it sound like Chloe had been raped. :\ Not sure if I was the only one who got that vibe.

But if thats the case...I can see why he didnt. He couldnt even touch her to begin with, she was so jumpy.

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its not like he was going to look under her skirt.

ITA, if someone's life's on the line...I dont think he's going to wait for her to sign a conscent form.

[liana]

My take on the situation is that the reason why Lana was ridiculed so much was because she lived with Bizarro for a month and had sex with him. Clark never lived with Chloe and never had sex with her neither has he had sex with Lois. I think that was the main factor as to why Lana was not given a break. She should have known that the man she was having sex with was not the man she was supposedly in love with.

Well, he did notice that Lois wasn't acting like herself in Hex. He mentioned it, more than once, actually, but he assumed that she was still Lois. But in those two situations (Chloe and Lois) he was with them only for a few hours. Lana lived with Bizarro for a whole month without noticing he wasn't Clark. But I think Lana did notice that he was different, but she felt so happier that she refused to see what was right in front of her. :( I can understand why. People do tend to become blind when they are happy, and they do refuse to see what is right under their noses.

[Poyntz]

I remember that Lana took a lot of flack from some fans for not recognizing that Bizarro was pretending to be Clark. Now we have a similar situation with Clark not realizing that this girl was not Chloe. Just like some said that Lana should know Clark better than anyone, and she should have known that Clark wasn't himself. Shouldn't Clark know Chloe better than anyone? Shouldn't he have known that she was not herself? Bizarro had me fooled during the first part of the episode when he first came back and talked to Lana in the barn. It wasn't until the end that I knew it was Bizarro, but I knew that it wasn't Chloe from pretty much the get go. I thought it was very obvious. I personally will cut Clark some slack just like I did for Lana. I don't blame them. Bizarro and Ava were very good at playing the parts of Clark and Chloe. I'm just wondering if those who thought Lana was at fault feel that Clark is at fault now, too?

See thats where i differ.... I knew from the begining of the episode that Clark wasnt Clark back then. I even turned to my friend and said.. "he's not acting like clark would".
On top of that, Clark was suppose to be Lana's love. Not to mention it wasnt a matter of a day we are talking about.. it was weeks.

As for Clark not knowing it was Chloe.. I think that giving the experience he thinks she went through and how scared she was he thinks its stress that is making her act differently plus as mentioned his own anger clouding his judgement. There were times later in the episode where he looked like he was confused by something about her but couldnt put his finger on it.

Good point about the xray though!!! I beleive he's xrayed before to make sure things were ok.. Didn't he xray his father and commented about the leg broken when the tractor fell on him.

[Cogito17]

I think they can be compared.

The bottomline is that they both remained dupe for as long as it was necessary for them to be duped. As in, Lana was duped as long as it was convenient for the plot, as Clark was duped as long as it was convenient for the plot. I don't think it says anything about the characters, its just convenient for the plot regardless of how long/short amount of time it took to figure it out. You just have to suspend belief that somehow both Chloe and Clark's impersonators (Eva Green/Bizarro) were somehow able to convincingly portray their subject/have all their knowledge.

[dru-zod2501]

From my perspective, it's arguable that Clark knows Chloe more intimately than anyone else on the show, in every other way besides physically. Clark should've been alerted as soon as Chloe advocated killing, that's a core tenet of his identity. It only took a slightly off-center response about a krypto-trinket to set off alarms and flags for Chloe.

Granted, Chloe's responses have varied in the past with regards to that issue, but she's never been this overtly pro-death penalty, especially when Clark clearly remembered Chloe stopping him from exiling Davis last week because that was "worse than death." The comparison is not unwarranted to me

[kp1984]

Even I thought it was her but something did seem off about her. She was a shapeshifter just like Tina. Wonder if she had superstrenght like her.

[Raina]

From my perspective, it's arguable that Clark knows Chloe more intimately than anyone else on the show, in every other way besides physically. Clark should've been alerted as soon as Chloe advocated killing, that's a core tenet of his identity. It only took a slightly off-center response about a krypto-trinket to set off alarms and flags for Chloe.

Granted, Chloe's responses have varied in the past with regards to that issue, but she's never been this overtly pro-death penalty, especially when Clark clearly remembered Chloe stopping him from exiling Davis last week because that was "worse than death." The comparison is not unwarranted to me

Well I cut Clark a lot of slack here because "Chloe" had just come out of a very traumatic experience so it stands to reason that any odd behaviour could be attributed to that. Also, her behaviour in general lately hasn't been very predictable...she just ran off with a pyscho killer.

[NinaDavis]

But she "kill" Davis in Eternal...

[superspider02]

well maybe this shapeshifter has been following chloe for awhile to known certain things to be convincing for clark.

[Bizarrolover]

Lana lived, slept and cuddled with Bizarro for an entire month and never noticed he was not Clark. She didn't realize that he kept her indoors for a month, that he didn't step under the sunlight for a month and that he was acting NOT like Clark for a month. Bizarro talked about leaving Smallville (something Clark will never do) about flying, and 'forgot' about things Clark will never forget. Clark was with Chloe replicant for a couple of hours and noticed there was something wrong about her and he was with 'chlois' for about 20 minutes until Chloe confessed who she really was. I don't think Bizarro's situation can be compared to this one.

[ginnyfan]

I really enjoyed Eva Greer. Its cool that she's a character we've seen before this season.

[bennyjr123]

It was weird though, because Clark acted like he knew her.

[xrayvision]

I don't think Ava Greer is related to Tina. We've had several characters with the same last names. I do think it is pretty coincidental that another shapeshifter has the same last name. But Tina clearly didn't have any sisters, unless Ava is her cousin.

[jpfort1957]

Now we're back to just 1 shapeshifter.

[Supsfan]

pretty sure it was a relative of tina greer

They should have pbrought that up. Tina Greer is my fav meteor freak, wish they would have somehow brought her back for the Lana arc

[xrayvision]

Who? Brainiac? I'm sure he put a copy of himself in Dax-Ur's brain.

[Supsfan]

I have to say fake Chloe much more entertaining then real Chloe

[Supsfan]

I think there is a huge difference living with a guy under normal circumastances for a month and being around somebody for a couple days during a tense situation. Clark at least mentioned something wasn't right in Chloe's case, Lana on the other hand acted like there was no difference when Chloe pointed it out to her.

[Clana4Life]

Lana did notice that Bizarro Clark was acting differently as another poster mentioned. She just didn't realize what caused those differences. I don't know that Biz kept her in doors for a month. She went to work (Isis). He went outside. He just avoided high noon or direct sunlight, I'm sure. :) But he was outside when he tried to trick her the one last time before he died. I don't think time, sex or stress is the factor here. Clark and Chloe have a very intimate relationship, regardless of whether its romantic. All of the characters are pretty much always under some sort of stress. Lana was prior to Biz Clark's return. Chloe is now. Jimmy is, even Oliver. Tonight Faux-Chloe said some very uncharacteristic things in this episode - namely killing Davis/Doomsday. She was die hard about that. I've never heard her advocate killing anyone. That whole bit about the kyrpton-trinket wasn't lost on me either. Clark noticed she was acting differently, he just didn't realize she was an impostor. It's easy to notice when a friend, lover, spouse is acting differently. It's much harder to garner that they are another being entirely just from that. That's why I thought Lana was criticized very harshly. She wasn't privy to all-things-Kryptonia. Lana had no prior knowledge of a phantom zone or phantom who could take on DNA. Clark knew nothing of Ava the Shapeshifter. This is why I cut them both a great deal of slack. But if Ava had been able to deceive Clark for another three weeks, which I think she could have (she did right up until she turned back into herself), what would you say then?

[Supsfan]

Lana had no prior knowledge of a phantom zone or phantom who could take on DNA. Clark knew nothing of Ava the Shapeshifter. This is why I cut them both a great deal of slack. But if Ava had been able to deceive Clark for another three weeks, which I think she could have (she did right up until she turned back into herself), what would you say then?

We have to assume that when Clark told her the secret he probably told her evereything from Day 1. it would make for boring tv to watch him explain everything that went on in his life.

Fact remeans that we never seen Lana happier then the month she was with Bizarro. Given that, even when faced with a tough choice, Lana unlike Chloe made the right choice. I'll give her that

[neoblackdragon]

Bizzaro had all of Clarks memories up to the past finale. That was when Lana left. I dont think it would be a stretch for someone with all of Clarks memories to convince lana that he was Clark. I would assume Bizzaro would have sex with Lana like Clark would have.

[melissan02]

I found it annoying that Clark didn't question Chloe's sudden "you have to kill Davis" mantra, when just a week ago she scolded him for wanting to send poor, pitiful, dimpled Davis to the PZ!
He didn't even bat an eye at this contradiction!:mad: Argh! Whatever!:rolleyes:

[Supsfan]

I found it annoying that Clark didn't question Chloe's sudden "you have to kill Davis" mantra, when just a week ago she scolded him for wanting to send poor, pitiful, dimpled Davis to the PZ!
He didn't even bat an eye at this contradiction!:mad: Argh! Whatever!:rolleyes:

I don't blame Clark. Chloe changes her attitude from week to week, he is used to it now

[EternalTwilight]

I found it annoying that Clark didn't question Chloe's sudden "you have to kill Davis" mantra, when just a week ago she scolded him for wanting to send poor, pitiful, dimpled Davis to the PZ!
He didn't even bat an eye at this contradiction!:mad: Argh! Whatever!:rolleyes:

Yeah, I found that a little strange. It was a dead giveaway, IMO, that it wasn't her. I knew it pretty early on and wanted Clark to be able to put the pieces together himself. :\

[Clana4Life]

We have to assume that when Clark told her the secret he probably told her evereything from Day 1. it would make for boring tv to watch him explain everything that went on in his life.

Fact remeans that we never seen Lana happier then the month she was with Bizarro. Given that, even when faced with a tough choice, Lana unlike Chloe made the right choice. I'll give her that

I don't know that we should assume that. I'm not sure that he did. I say that because when he tried to convince her that she had been living with someone else, he had to explain to her about Bizarro, what he truly was and what he could do. I won't type it verbatim, but the gist was "He's a phantom. He took my DNA and looks just like me." I don't think he was re-explaining this. It was the first time. Lana's respond was, "He looked just like you." There was a lot she did not know still. They had one talk in S6 about his being from Krypton and being an alien. That's as much as he said. Then she "blew up in the car." She came back a few episodes into S7, with only the knowledge she had from S6. She even mentioned still having so much to learn when she met Kara and Martian Manhunter. So with Clark, it seems like he didn't tell her much about phantoms at least.
Brainiac fooled Clark twice - both as Jonathan and as Lionel. I've yet to see anyone on Smallville figure out that faux-person was not the real person when they were doing an impersonation. The most we have gotten during whatever time period was, "such and such is acting differently." Hey, I probably wouldn't realize it was an impersonator either. Maybe Clark should after having been tricked three or four times now. :) But I still cut him some slack. I was just trying to see if every character was being judged on the same scale.

[SGuthrie27]

I think the two situations do have a lot of differences, so it's not TOTALLY fair to compare them directly, but there are a few similarities. It would seem that Clark would've picked up on "Chloe's" odd behavior a little sooner than he did. I mean c'mon, even Dr. Hamilton had it pegged that something was "off" with "Chloe," and even then, Clark hadn't figured out that she was a shape-shifter until AFTER Eva had already died and changed back into her original form. But I can cut Clark some slack. "Chloe" had some Kryptonian knowledge, she spoke in a similar, snarky style when she was with Clark, even if it lacked a little bit of the real Chloe's sharp wit, and I think Clark truly wanted to believe that Chloe had made the decision to come back because it's what he had most wanted her to do at the end of "Beast." He felt like he was now able to protect her again.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Clana4Life]

I think the two situations do have a lot of differences, so it's not TOTALLY fair to compare them directly, but there are a few similarities. It would seem that Clark would've picked up on "Chloe's" odd behavior a little sooner than he did. I mean c'mon, even Dr. Hamilton had it pegged that something was "off" with "Chloe," and even then, Clark hadn't figured out that she was a shape-shifter until AFTER Eva had already died and changed back into her original form. But I can cut Clark some slack. "Chloe" had some Kryptonian knowledge, she spoke in a similar, snarky style when she was with Clark, even if it lacked a little bit of the real Chloe's sharp wit, and I think Clark truly wanted to believe that Chloe had made the decision to come back because it's what he had most wanted her to do at the end of "Beast." He felt like he was now able to protect her again.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Much like Lana wanted to believe that Clark was putting their relationship first and not the world. This "wanting to believe" is what's blinding the people on Smallville, huh? :\

[Billy Jor-El]

I was suspicious it wasn't Chloe pretty much from the get-go, and once it seemed Chloe was lying, working with Tess, out to kill Davis, I said it couldn't be Chloe. So why couldn't Clark also be that suspicious? As said Clark was worked up and just relieved that Chloe was safe as far as he could tell, he is seeing what he wants to see, indeed; and there is a moral question about x-raying freely without permission. For the thought that he wasn't looking up her skirt or anything, it's never been established that his x-ray vision can show just what's under the fabric, the skin tissue, etc, if I'm not mistaken. It's always the skeletal frame, and would have shown a chip, though had he looked her over as such. Clark's morality at times gets in the way; but we've had instances of "...are you x-raying me?" in the past, and whether Chloe or anyone, it's awkward to admit he's taking certain liberties.

Kind of rambling here, but hopefully my immediate thoughts come across.....I'm glad it wasn't Chloe because for the very first time I didn't like her; the lies, the underhanded work with Tess, well, I didn't like her because it wasn't Chloe; we'll see how the real thing reacts, hopefully in the season finale....

[Supsfan]

Much like Lana wanted to believe that Clark was putting their relationship first and not the world. This "wanting to believe" is what's blinding people across the board, huh? :\

Can we at least agree that Bizarro was Lana's greatest month of her life according to her own words :P

[Marfeic2011]

Well....he didnt figure out Lois wasnt Lois in "Hex" either. :p
I think he was just very worked up. That was the point. Tess knew if she sent someone to Clark who looked like Chloe.....making implications of rape (thats what it sounded like she was hinting at on the couch), he wouldnt be thinking as clearly. He would just act on his anger.

So I think he was on an adrenaline high, and wasnt thinking that clearly in the beginning. He was just relieved to have Chloe back.

But he definitely caught on by the middle of the episode....

Clark is hot, strong, brave, selfless, determined, and loyal - but smart? I think this just goes to show his character is not very perceptive or the brightest bulb in the box...

[Clana4Life]

Can we at least agree that Bizarro was Lana's greatest month of her life according to her own words :P

I just re-read my post and changed "board" to "people on Smallville" because it might sound like I'm talking about the people on the boards on here, when I meant "across the board" to mean across the board on the show Smallville, i.e., Clark, Oliver, Lana, Chloe, etc. They are all blinded by what they want to see. Hope there was no confusion on that.

You know, I was never sure if Lana really meant that bit about being "happier than she's ever been" or if she was just saying that so that she could trick and kill Bizarro. They never really addressed that. I think the greatest month of her life was the period when she came back in Power and Requiem (right up until she had to absorb all of the kryptonite.) She was powerful and working side by side with Clark - her happiest moment ever.

Do you think the people on Smallville are blinded by what they want to see?

[keddy22]

Well, he did notice that Lois wasn't acting like herself in Hex. He mentioned it, more than once, actually, but he assumed that she was still Lois. But in those two situations (Chloe and Lois) he was with them only for a few hours. Lana lived with Bizarro for a whole month without noticing he wasn't Clark. But I think Lana did notice that he was different, but she felt so happier that she refused to see what was right in front of her. :( I can understand why. People do tend to become blind when they are happy, and they do refuse to see what is right under their noses.

This is pretty much my take on it as well.

[Supsfan]

You know, I was never sure if Lana really meant that bit about being "happier than she's ever been" or if she was just saying that so that she could trick and kill Bizarro.

Actually Bizarro mentioned that Lana said it, and she mentioned it to Bizarro before she knew he was Bizarro. Through Bizarro we also find out that Lana says she finally feels like they are ment to be together. Lana's words without knowing what is going on.

Lana then made a comment that somebody could fanwank either way(that she really ment it or tried to trick Bizarro) and I will side with you she said it to trick Bizzy

[Clana4Life]

Actually Bizarro mentioned that Lana said it, and she mentioned it to Bizarro before she knew he was Bizarro. Through Bizarro we also find out that Lana says she finally feels like they are ment to be together. Lana's words without knowing what is going on.

Lana then made a comment that somebody could fanwank either way(that she really ment it or tried to trick Bizarro) and I will side with you she said it to trick Bizzy

Ha, ha, we found something to agree on. :) I cut Clark some slack on not knowing that Ava0-Chloe was an impostor, but he has been fooled by shapeshifters/impersonators more than anyone else on the show, i.e., Brainiac (twice -as Jonathan and the Lionel), Chloe-Lois (Hex) and Ava (Injustice). Am I missing any other instances?

[Supsfan]

Ha, ha, we found something to agree on. :) I cut Clark some slack on not knowing that Ava0-Chloe was an impostor, but he has been fooled by shapeshifters/impersonators more than anyone else on the show, i.e., Brainiac (twice -as Jonathan and the Lionel), Chloe-Lois (Hex) and Ava (Injustice). Am I missing any other instances?

You don't get what I am saying, Lana did seem to feel more comfortable with Bizarro then she ever did with Clark, although when forced to make a desicion I will give her credit(unlike CHloe) for doing the right thing.

[Clana4Life]

You don't get what I am saying, Lana did seem to feel more comfortable with Bizarro then she ever did with Clark, although when forced to make a desicion I will give her credit(unlike CHloe) for doing the right thing.

I know I'm getting a little off topic here, but I do think Chloe is doing the right thing by helping Davis. I'm glad she has been because now we have the opportunity to separate Davis (who I think is a really good guy) from Doomsday (pure evil) with the black kryptonite. I think Lana did the right thing by killing Bizarro, but I think Chloe is doing the right thing, too.

[Ella]

I think its a bit much to compare Clark spending, maybe, 2 days with a lookalike Chloe to Lana's living and having sex with Bizarro for a month. Isn't that a bit apples and oranges?
Exactly. That's a wold of difference.

And about this episode specifically, even I couldn't tell it wasn't Chloe until well...pretty much near the death scene. lol All I knew is that she was acting strange and that's it, but she's been doing that pretty much all season. :lol:

[Supsfan]

I think Lana did the right thing by killing Bizarro, but I think Chloe is doing the right thing, too.

What did Bizarro ever do wrong? Personally I think grabbing somebody's ass is much less of a crime then killing people

[Ella]

Lana lived, slept and cuddled with Bizarro for an entire month and never noticed he was not Clark. She didn't realize that he kept her indoors for a month, that he didn't step under the sunlight for a month and that he was acting NOT like Clark for a month. Bizarro talked about leaving Smallville (something Clark will never do) about flying, and 'forgot' about things Clark will never forget. Clark was with Chloe replicant for a couple of hours and noticed there was something wrong about her and he was with 'chlois' for about 20 minutes until Chloe confessed who she really was. I don't think Bizarro's situation can be compared to this one.
Ouch. When you put it that way it does make Lana's situation so horrible. But why are we talking about bizanna, anyway? In terms of puke factor, that whole relationship (if you will) takes the cake. It was just wrong on so many levels.... :\

[dru-zod2501]

What did Bizarro ever do wrong? Personally I think grabbing somebody's ass is much less of a crime then killing people
and bizarro did both

[Supsfan]

and bizarro did both

When did Bizarro kill people? It's seems like once he got in Clark's skin he was a fiune upstanding person who just had shifty hands. He is a pussycat compared to Davis

[Clana4Life]

What did Bizarro ever do wrong? Personally I think grabbing somebody's ass is much less of a crime then killing people

Err, killed that old man he possessed. Grabbed Martian Manhunters organs and pulled them out. Killed another random man who stopped to see if he was okay (when he was on the power lines). He then smiled after doing that. Tried to kill Clark. And I know I'm leaving out other people he killed. So he, much like Doomsday, kills people. I separate Davis from Doomsday, though, and I don't want to see Davis go down with or pay for what Doomsday does.

[Supsfan]

I don't want to see Davis go down with or pay for what Doomsday does.

But you don't mind seeing alot of people die in his place then? Davis wouldn't have died either if he went to the PZ.

[dru-zod2501]

When did Bizarro kill people? It's seems like once he got in Clark's skin he was a fiune upstanding person who just had shifty hands. He is a pussycat compared to Davis
Episode 7.1

Clark knocks Bizzy into some power lines, he gets impaled on a piece of metal.
Stranger drives up to investigate, Bizzy procedes to BBQ said stranger w/ heat vision

[Supsfan]

Episode 7.1

Clark knocks Bizzy into some power lines, he gets impaled on a piece of metal.
Stranger drives up to investigate, Bizzy procedes to BBQ said stranger w/ heat vision

Point well taken, both Davis and Bizzy deserve to be put in a place far away from humans. Once again congrats to Lana for doing the right thing(that will be one of the few times you see me congradulating her)

[smallvillerocks45]

I honestly thought that too...
but the way Chloe (or whoever the heck she was) was talking.....she was almost making it sound like Chloe had been raped. :\ Not sure if I was the only one who got that vibe.

But if thats the case...I can see why he didnt. He couldnt even touch her to begin with, she was so jumpy.


I got that vibe too. Seriously, I thought she was going to say that Davis somehow violated her. It wa such an uncomfortable moment. I was glad she didn't say it.


As for Clark's lack of insight, for lack of a better term, considering the traumatic time Chloe "supposedly" had, I think it was normal for Clark to overlook unusual behavior from her. That being said, she was really weird - she didn't act anything like Chloe. I think Clark knew it, but once again, how do you ask someone who has been through such terror if they really are who they say they are? I'll cut Clark a break, and in hindsight, I'd cut Lana one too. Clark was just angry that his girlfriend was sleeping with someone else -- who happened to be a murderer -- but at the end of the episode he did apologize for his behavior; Clark cut Lana some slack too.

[borednow]

I recognized it way before she ran off! :lol:

[smallvillerocks45]

I recognized it way before she ran off! :lol:


LoL, It was kind of obvious... but then again, I had read some rumors that it wasn't really her anyhow, so I was expecting the twist. Clark, however, did not have the information I had to his avail.

[jpfort1957]

Who? Brainiac? I'm sure he put a copy of himself in Dax-Ur's brain.

Brainiac is the one I'm talking about. If there is one molecule left on earth......he's still here. I read in the SV companion that Brainiac had killed Dax-ur off screen. I had often wondered if Clark would ever contact him for help (like DD) but unfortunately that won't happen.

[Clana4Life]

I got that vibe too. Seriously, I thought she was going to say that Davis somehow violated her. It wa such an uncomfortable moment. I was glad she didn't say it.


As for Clark's lack of insight, for lack of a better term, considering the traumatic time Chloe "supposedly" had, I think it was normal for Clark to overlook unusual behavior from her. That being said, she was really weird - she didn't act anything like Chloe. I think Clark knew it, but once again, how do you ask someone who has been through such terror if they really are who they say they are? I'll cut Clark a break, and in hindsight, I'd cut Lana one too. Clark was just angry that his girlfriend was sleeping with someone else -- who happened to be a murderer -- but at the end of the episode he did apologize for his behavior; Clark cut Lana some slack too.

Nice post Viola. I didn't think she acted anything like Chloe either. She was so adamant about Clark killing Davis even when he said he could separate Davis from Doomsday. I guess Clark could have x-rayed her if he really thought it was someone else. He thought it was Chloe, though. Biz fooled me for the majority of his episode (when he supposedly came back from the PZ), but I knew Chloe wasn't Chloe within the first 5 minutes. Perhaps Biz was a better actor, since he had all of Clark's memories, DNA and powers. I don't know how much knowledge of Chloe, Ava had or how Ava even came to know the things she knew. That was never addressed. She even knew how to work the Isis switchboard. Now that I think about it, she wasn't a phantom with Chloe's DNA, she knew TOO much. But I digress. Chloe could come back and give Clark the same spill about "knowing her better than anyone" and that he should have known it wasn't her. It would be interesting indeed to hear him say, "but she looked and talked just like you." I'm sure if this should ever happen again - with someone pretending to be someone else, Clark will know. Fifth time's a charm, right? :o

[Orbital2]

that was ava greer, sister i'm guessing of tina greer from S1.

the question is, where is chloe now?!? we never touched base with her

The assumption is that Chloe is still with Doomsday, the Chloe we saw last week was the real Chloe. The whole arc with Chloe escaping doomsday was the story made up to make Clark believe that ava was the real chloe

[Aries83]

It was weird though, because Clark acted like he knew her.

Yeah, I was thrown off by that. I read the Smallville wiki and I remember her now, but there was mention of some type of "betrayal" she committed on behalf of Clark in this episode. What did she do?

[Vergon6]

They should have pbrought that up. Tina Greer is my fav meteor freak, wish they would have somehow brought her back for the Lana arc
Tina Greer was impaled by a pitchfork in "Visage" and is quite dead. Maybe the people who wrote the episode originally wanted to include Tina Greer, but then they realized she was dead. So they were like 'hey, you know Tess' assistant, Eva. That's just have her last name as Greer and make her a shape-shifter too' lol

[Supsfan]

Tina Greer was impaled by a pitchfork in "Visage" and is quite dead. Maybe the people who wrote the episode originally wanted to include Tina Greer, but then they realized she was dead. So they were like 'hey, you know Tess' assistant, Eva. That's just have her last name as Greer and make her a shape-shifter too' lol

Well on this show they could make the returning Tina Greer be some lab experiment. I much as I usually hate Lana stalker episodes, Tina Greer is the exception

[Aries83]

The scene where she morphs into Chloe, who then smells Lana's hair while in her bedroom is hilarious.

[imaginaryhero]

Tina Greer, Eva Greer...I guess I should be a shape-shifter too, I'm a Greer. ;)

[holehead13]

If Eva was an assistant of Tess's, it would make sense that Clark might recognise her from the Daily Planet

[Superman of Krypton]

It was such a weak deus ex machina

[Poyntz]

Anyone notice how when Chleva died she fell backwards and when the Dr. was examining her she was facing the other way? Did they move her?? LOL or just forget where she was when she fell

[AgentChaos]

Anyone notice how when Chleva died she fell backwards and when the Dr. was examining her she was facing the other way? Did they move her?? LOL or just forget where she was when she fell

They probably shot the second scene first, and changed how she landed in the first scene.

[bennyjr123]

I must say though, Eva was a fantastic Chloe. lol. Like the play by play with doomsday was believable, and then with all the metaphors. Like, up until the scene with livewire, there was pretty much no way we could tell.

[marcella]

You can't compare Lana, who spent a month with Bizarro, with Clark, that spent just a few hours with fake Chloe.

[RedKRules]

You can't compare Lana, who spent a month with Bizarro, with Clark, that spent just a few hours with fake Chloe.

ITA! It can´t be compared.

[Vindellavon]

Chloe has consistency, it was a definite that wasn't Chloe. Come to think of it, Chloe wasn't even in the episode.

[rick.itch]

yeah dont compare lana with clark... poor clark he always gets the bad things on him :( soon he might be the male version of miss lang

[rebecavaldez]

I knew something was up with her.

[Kid Collins]

I remember that Lana took a lot of flack from some fans for not recognizing that Bizarro was pretending to be Clark. Now we have a similar situation with Clark not realizing that this girl was not Chloe. Just like some said that Lana should know Clark better than anyone, and she should have known that Clark wasn't himself. Shouldn't Clark know Chloe better than anyone? Shouldn't he have known that she was not herself? Bizarro had me fooled during the first part of the episode when he first came back and talked to Lana in the barn. It wasn't until the end that I knew it was Bizarro, but I knew that it wasn't Chloe from pretty much the get go. I thought it was very obvious. I personally will cut Clark some slack just like I did for Lana. I don't blame them. Bizarro and Ava were very good at playing the parts of Clark and Chloe. I'm just wondering if those who thought Lana was at fault feel that Clark is at fault now, too?

ITA. The writers don't respect the close relationships and friendships these characters have with each other. If they want certain storyline, with characters getting fooled, they'll write it anyway.

Even if I didn't read spoilers, fake Chloe was pretty obvious to me. Last week Chloe saved Davis and now she wants Clark to kill him? And there wasn't any remorse?

[SVfan87]

it's understandable that Clark didn't see through the disguise. FakeChloe came back visibly shaken and implying that Davis was getting too close for comfort. After something like that you'd expect the person to be acting differently. They're traumatized, they're not gonna be their normal self. If Davis did turn on Chloe is it that hard to believe that she could change her mind and want him gone for good?

[ms.c.]

They left a HUGE plot hole by not saying where real Chloe is.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I think Clark was kinda on to the fake Chloe in the Isis scene. He started to question her...but then she died and her secret was revealed. I really liked the whole fake Chloe thing.....it threw me for a loop, just when I figured out what Chloe was up to BAM! the show showed me that I was wrong! I love it when a show can surprise me like that!

Good job writers!

[kp1984]

The thing with Bizzaro he had all of Clark memeroies. I mean if Lana said do you remember when Withney use to be mean to you. Bizzaro would be like yeah I remember that punk putting a green k neckless on me. Your ex jason was also an ass. Bizzaro would be thinking to himself wish I copied Clark body in high school. When ever Lana talk about the past Bizzaro would always remember. He probably even told her that he was on red k when he was kissing chole in season 2.