View Full Version : Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of "Injustice?"
KSiteTV
05-06-2009, 02:26 PM
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LoisLaneJournalist
05-07-2009, 07:07 PM
I really like the episode!!!
Im a lot confused though!!
Clark was so SupermanDly
skylar
05-07-2009, 07:08 PM
I wasn't bored watching tonight good episode give it a 8
Jack-El49
05-07-2009, 07:08 PM
Another solid episode but a little too busy and a little convoluted to give it a higher score for me.
thehenry89
05-07-2009, 07:09 PM
not good gave it a 3
8/10 for me. It had it's highs and lows. Ollie and the ending saved the episode for me. I was expecting more from the others but oh well....
melissan02
05-07-2009, 07:09 PM
A little boring for my taste. Perhaps because I'm so darned confused now?:confused:
Someone please explain all this to me.
I'll give it a rating once I figure out what the heck is goin' on!:lol:
Hakoon
05-07-2009, 07:09 PM
5 - It was ok...didn't rock my world or anything. I don't want them to bring Zod back...the orb thing is getting silly IMO. Tess Mercer is toast next week I think. She is too involved to live. Not enough injustice league...and killing them off just seemed silly to me.
Oh well, I hope next week is better.
Night_Hawk90
05-07-2009, 07:10 PM
episode felt so out of place, the injustice league was pretty lame, i dunno didnt really like the episode. 6/10
nic25
05-07-2009, 07:10 PM
It was ok but that last scene confused the heck out of me.
I was bored out of my mind watching this episode. That's only happened to me twice before this season. And to think I actually thought this episode might be better than the finale. Yeah right. Wrong. It was just basically such a waste of an hour...
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A little boring for my taste. Perhaps because I'm so darned confused now?:confused:
Someone please explain all this to me.
I'll give it a rating once I figure out what the heck is goin' on!:lol:
Eh, I got the gist of what was going on and I was still bored out of my mind.
MetroGirl06
05-07-2009, 07:12 PM
10/10 This episode ROCKED! The best in weeks! I'm so phased I can't even begin to describe why this episode was so great. Everyone got a chance to shine. TW did an excellent job directing and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Def one of my favorites of the season!
redkryptoniteisthebest
05-07-2009, 07:13 PM
8/10
Some scenes were okay, but everything else was really good.
asha14
05-07-2009, 07:13 PM
Confusing as all get out. Needed more set up than Kara mentioning Kander in Bloodline. Is Kander a pink orb instead of a city now? Oh I gave it a 7
Glove
05-07-2009, 07:13 PM
I gave it a 7. It was slightly above average. I expected more of
a fight between the Injustice League and Doomsday, instead they
jumped ahead of the fight and showed executed members instead.
There wasn't even a decent fight between Clark/Green Arrow and
the Injustice League. I feel robbed. This was nothing more than
a Meteor Freak of the Week Squared Episode. Tess was the best
part of the show. She's coming off more and more like Lex Luthor.
The ending of the episode was interesting. :\
kszonew
05-07-2009, 07:13 PM
I can honestly say I liked it. The majority of Season 8 has been a hit or miss with me. Good concepts, like Clark maturing (somewhat) and getting off the farm. But the stories often felt low budget and not so exciting. Plus I dislike the fact they film in a wonderful looking city like Vancouver, and for awhile were basing Metropolis around the block with the pharmacy.
But the last few episodes (minus Stiletto) have picked things up and I look forward to the season finale. The only negatives I can say about Injustice is there was a lot going on in a short time, perhaps it would have made a better two-parter. And some of the dialogue, as others said was awful. I like Septien and Meyer but they were off on this one.
I'm going to wait to express my opinon on Tess's actions until next week. I was kind of hoping they wouldn't turn her plain evil, but rather keep her in the middle as an ally/opposing force like Oliver has been. But who knows what's going on with her. Other than that the show is kind of getting back on track for me. I stress KIND OF, much emphasis. Maybe they need to go with a 13 episodes order - keep things tighter together.
Flawed but the main story is interesting. 7.5/10
Mackdaddy
05-07-2009, 07:14 PM
I gave it a 4. Episode was not good at all.
smallvillereporter27
05-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Meh, liked it though I hated the dialouge. Glad Tom just directed it and didn't write it!
I liked Clark in this episode. He has finally manned up to all of his descisions. Poor Ollie though. I can see where he is coming from, but I have to agree with Clark. It sucks that they may be at odds now.
Also Justin was hillarious in this episode!
clois-destiny-forever
05-07-2009, 07:16 PM
I gave it a 4. The dialogue was bad and distracting. Oliver was all over the place character-wise. Tess and her little meteor freaks were just spewing cheesy lines all over the place.
Tatiana
05-07-2009, 07:18 PM
I didn't love it but I did like it a lot, the writing of the injustice league was weird, but I am very happy with the way they showed Clark, being very proactive and investigating on his own, coming up with other way to save Davis and destroy DD, I also thought Ollie was pretty funny and cool, I liked how he supports Clark even though they disagree. Tess is evil too, she is very manipulative as Lionel was but always hiding something and the ending was super confusing and surprising. I gave it a 9 for all that, I also think Tom did a great job directing this episode :) I am glad we got to see more of him too in contrast of last week's episode
I gave it a 4. The dialogue was bad and distracting. Oliver was all over the place character-wise. Tess and her little meteor freaks were just spewing cheesy lines all over the place.
Plastique's rooster lines were cringe worthy!
spideyfan
05-07-2009, 07:20 PM
6/10...i was not interested too much during this...it seemed kinda week for a second to last epi...
i dont know..i hope next week is good...
'Tonio09
05-07-2009, 07:20 PM
I was a little disappointed in the Injustice League, I was hoping Livewire and Neutron would do more, a lot more. But I still liked the episode.
reobeem
05-07-2009, 07:21 PM
This was one of those really good/ really bad at the same time episodes. I wasn't too thrilled with the lineup for the Injustice Gang. I think the guy who played Parasite was in Freddy vs Jason. It was nice to see Bete again but I felt sorry for her being tricked like that. Moving on to Chloe she really is messed up, even more so than Lana. Her actions may have cost Clark the only chance to stop Doomsday and save Davis (something I mentioned early on). Oliver is getting on my nerves I mean he tries to do the right thing but right now he's on the same path as Lex was. His boneheaded moes may have cost Clark as well. What was the deal with him hitting on Tess every chance he got, did he mean it or was it a trick. I'm glad was smart enough to think of Black Kryptonite as a way to save Davis because it show someone on this show is thinking. As for Tess she is just messed up, first she destroys the crystal that can send Doomsday away. I get the comment about how he could escape but it's the only option besides sending him to the end of time. Ok and what was the deal with those voices in the orb. I'm pretty sure they mentioned Kandor but as far as I know Kara won't be back anytime soon so why bring it up. The preview for the finale looked great, kudos for the Zod symbol appearing and I'm also glad to see Cosmic Boy again.
curiosity
05-07-2009, 07:22 PM
10/10 This episode ROCKED! The best in weeks! I'm so phased I can't even begin to describe why this episode was so great. Everyone got a chance to shine. TW did an excellent job directing and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Def one of my favorites of the season!
I agree! I really liked Clark in this episode. Although I think there should have been more of him. I definitely was not bored at all. Oliver was funny. I was glad to see him helping Clark. Clark was in charge.
I didn't like that a meteor freak could take Clark's powers, but everything else was good. I liked Tess.
Although, I missed Lois.
ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
05-07-2009, 07:22 PM
My lowest rated episode of this year... 4...heck...out of the entire series for me.
I am just stunned..I'm still trying to grasp everything. Tom directed this? Uh huh.
There were not any big fight sequences at all...Livewire killed? What happened to the blonde guy? The plot was BEYOND confusing...I still do not understand ANYTHING that happened....Chloe was fake...? huh? How did Livewire die? Who was the blonde guy? So many questions......I am like crying.
moviefan2k4
05-07-2009, 07:26 PM
I gave this episode an 8/10, because everything was going perfectly until Oliver decided to proposition Tess, in the buff no less! Combined with Tess' "keep it in your pants" remark, that's yet another black mark on the series' moral record, in my opinion. Enough with the sexual garbage, and more with the heroics!
I'd say a 6 or 7,it wasn't as good as I anticipated it would be.There were some interesting parts,though mostly with Tess.I did love Clark's proactive method to finding Chloe and doing the right thing no matter what.I feel like Oliver's lines are just being recycled.We all know how he feels about doomsday and how to take him down.I know he is only trying to help,but I hate the constant lectures he gives to Clark.Some of the charaters weren't in as long as I thought they would be.I really liked Tom's direction though.He did a nice job with the huge blast of colors and the super Smallville closeups they always have.The main storyline really excites me for the finale,that one will definitely rock.
Fallen One
05-07-2009, 07:27 PM
I'm going to to need to see this one again. My first reaction is that I didn't love or hate it. I thought it was kinda .. meh.
skylar
05-07-2009, 07:31 PM
For an episode that Lois wasn't in i didn't think it was that bad.
melissan02
05-07-2009, 07:31 PM
*yawns*
...As I still peruse the boards hoping someone will be able to shed some light on what the heck was going on in this episode!:\
t3000
05-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Probably the second to last smallville episode i watch. We'll see if doomsday can fix anything but this is getting pathetic. Characters acting completely out of character. Pull it out of your ass changes to story lines (tune in next week when we discover that martian manhunters crystal released all the villians that it ever captured when it was destroyed back in legion, why didn't we know about it earlier, because it takes the writers that long to dig that far up their ass). So is Clark going to fly next week. Naw, we have a whole 'nother season for them to mess things up even more. Maybe we can have some more time travel episodes to magically fix things after they screw things up. Oh wait that's what the season finale will be, 41.5 minutes of this can't happen, and 30 seconds of just kidding, time travel, back to the starting line, again...
WELLINGWIFE#2
05-07-2009, 07:37 PM
I was confused a little throughout because there was a lot of info thrown at us IMHO, but what made this epi for me had to be the fact that Tom dirrected it. It was the same characters but the whole epi had a different feel to it. Almost darker and more intense. The camera angles made the scenes more dramatic. THe way the actors delivered their lines really captured my attention for the most part. I mean things like the very last scene confused me a bit but I think the lighting, and camera shots really made up for any shortcomings this epi had. THe wardrobe and music really helped set the dark almost doom like mood and help set us up for the finale. I especially liked the scenes between Ollie and Clark. So intense and kinda of reminded me of the scenes with CK and Lex. (before Lex went all bad). The scenes showed how both Ollie and CK stand for Justice but one (meaning CK) will not give in to Killing a man no matter what. The struggle between the 2 was really interesting to me because they are both after the good of mankind , yet they both are going in different extremes to achieve it. I felt like CK was being pressured from all dirrections to give in to his moral standards and do what everyone else wants him to do. At times, It was kinda frustrating to watch him keeo trying to justify his stand but if he were to give in then he would not be on his way to become the Superman we know he is destined to. Great Job Directing, TOM!
pen2paper
05-07-2009, 07:38 PM
7ish It kept me interested, and I liked that Clark is taking a stand on this DD situation. He's been so back and forth lately. Good for him. Oliver was well i know it's not important but he was just hott ... but taking a dark turn. Chloe wasn't chloe thank god, if she went back on the whole Davis thing it would just annoy me more. The injustice league, kind of pointless? Tess was using them to find Davis, but was she lying about not having them killed. I mean for someone so concerned with saving the planet why would she murder people. After finding out about Lex having put a chip in her or w.e. she went good right? ahh
Tess, seriously she confuses me, is she evil, is she doing this because the orb (ye that NEEDS explanation) is telling her too? Is she really just craving a superman/doomsday throwdown like the rest of us? Or is she actually doing this to save the world?
luvinChlark
05-07-2009, 07:41 PM
Okay episode, great lead in for the season finale. Allison rocked her scenes. Really, Ollie was scaring me alittle/kinda weird, I don't really care about the Tess/oliver ship. But 10 for Tom. ;)
warriorrenegade
05-07-2009, 07:46 PM
I don't know what to think about the episode, but these last couple of episodes seemed to really be moving at a fast pace. Not alot of introspective character moments(and no close ups don't count). Just things that needed to have time spent on them didn't get the time. Maybe that's SV way of building tension, but it's lost on me. It's leaving me with alot of ...Huh? What? That's not how it goes and Why's Ollie screaming at Clark? It's Not fun to watch and I don't know what to rate it.
amberdawn
05-07-2009, 07:46 PM
I gave it a 7.
Best thing about it was Tom's directing. I think he always does good.
tibbit78
05-07-2009, 07:46 PM
I didn't like this episode very much: it was a boring episode, but I wish that all of the 7 casts were in it. I miss Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and Davis Bloome/Doomsday not being in it.
Although my tv was kind-of static and a little fuzzy, I couldn't see the picture too clearly. It was all right, but not the best episode. I was disappointed in this episode. I can't wait until next week (when the finale episode airs).
AndiGirl
05-07-2009, 07:46 PM
I LOVED it! Clark was amazing! :D
Clois86
05-07-2009, 07:50 PM
I gave it a 7. It was slightly above average. I expected more of
a fight between the Injustice League and Doomsday, instead they
jumped ahead of the fight and showed executed members instead.
There wasn't even a decent fight between Clark/Green Arrow and
the Injustice League. I feel robbed. This was nothing more than
a Meteor Freak of the Week Squared Episode. Tess was the best
part of the show. She's coming off more and more like Lex Luthor.
The ending of the episode was interesting. :\
Yeah I was hoping for a fight scene b/w IL and DD but that never happened. The Clark/OQ scenes were great. And Tess just seems to gain huge amounts of info in a very short time, possibly hinting that she is one of the characters that die in the finale.
ClubXerxes
05-07-2009, 07:51 PM
Do you know what KISS stands for? Keep it simple stupid...and they are not keeping it simple.
They're getting too cute with the story. They are really milking this destiny and morality stuff for all it is worth. They are so busy showing us all of the different angles, the story suffers. It is being crushed under it's own weight. The writers seem to have a hard time developing a natural flow.
For example, the sense of foreboding created by the scenes of death after a Doomsday attack are great...they compel the viewer to watch, and the sense of anticipation and dread grows with each passing moment. Then they take away from that momentum by drawing us into some heavy handed diatribe about moral choices.
The other thing I dislike is the phenomenon of "shoehorning" characters who lack prior development into a critical story. What is the background of Dr. Emil Hamilton? Why is he suddenly a crucial ally? What happened to that part of the story - am I supposed to just accept him and move on? I don't like that much...
They at least did one thing right - while everyone around Clark is losing their sense of duty, and life becomes a free for all, he stands alone willing to bear the burden upon himself. I'm becoming happier with Clark's progression with each passing episode...sure there are some reversions into bad habits (and I wish he would rid himself of that troubled and conflicted look he always gets), but he is moving in the right direction.
As for the ending, I'm dumbfounded...I mean WTHell was that?
I'm too confused to rate it just yet...
BkWurm1
05-07-2009, 07:53 PM
I gave it a 7. Not a fantastic episode, but decent and there was set up for next week. I wasn't confused since I was expecting FauxChlo going in. Loved AM's small acting choices that made it clear Chloe wasn't herself.
Oliver is kind of a dick...but it works for him.
Moving on to Chloe, she really is messed up, even more so than Lana. Her actions may have cost Clark the only chance to stop Doomsday and save DavisActions that Clark firmly supports. I was so pleased that Clark just said it plainly. Chloe was right. And now Clark also doesn't trust Oliver.
mr lane
05-07-2009, 07:54 PM
I was very disappointed
the producers said this season would be the train to lining up with the mythos
so the mythos is killing Livewire after 5 minutes
having parasite strip clark of his powers when in the comics/animated series he didn't strip him of his powers just shared his powers temporarily he would continuously have to zap superman to have his powers but superman was never stripped of them
so now humans can just strip crystals from the console and destroy them to? i thought kryptonian technology was beyond humans but i guess not!
the orb was said it could only be used to control the traveler but now it contains a possible talking zod?
and tess thinks she is saving the world and preparing clark by destroying the phantom zone crystal so clark is forced to face doomsday?
uh didnt the show already do this story line by having brainiac manipulate lex into thinking he was actually saving the world?
I dont want to judge anything until i see the finale but this season seems like a combo of season 5 and 7. they're trying to redeem those seasons since they were among the weakest ones, IMO
i love the idea of bringing in a kandor story line but like this?
im sorry but this episode was anything but great im sorry TW had to direct it
the only thing that saved it was TW's acting
super_j_man
05-07-2009, 07:58 PM
5/10 - and that's being generous :rolleyes:
This episode had its good moments but it also had a lot of not-so-good moments. And to top it all off the ending deserves a :confused: and a :eek:. The beginning was good and the end scenes with Clark talking to Oliver and Tess were good, but a lot of the other scenes were pretty much weak IMO. I felt that this episode had the potential to do a LOT better. Here's why:
First off, Clark losing his powers to someone else?? Like we've never seen that before. Come on PS3! Come up with something new!
Why did they have to kill Livewire so quickly?? She is an actually mythos villain and they killed her just like that! Her character could of had a lot more potential if they kept her around. I didn't really see the point in introducing the Injustice League if TPTB were going to kill half of them that quickly.
Okay, Clark should know Chloe well enough by now to know that she wasn't really Chloe! I mean how dumb are they going to make Clark out to be? But despite Clark not having enough sense to know that Chloe was really Eva, I was glad to see Clark stand up for himself a little later on in the epi. Ollie has gotten a little too overboard with his whole "killing" stance IMO and I'm glad Clark finally stood up and said his piece to him. Good job Clark. I'm getting tired of Ollie's character. I never thought the real Green Arrow would be anything like this. Mainly, I just really don't like the way he's been written this season. Not even Batman kills his villains. Ollie's morals have just slipped just short of being a real hero. And even though I do get that he wants to kill Doomsday, what's wrong with the PZ idea??? The only time anyone has escaped was when Clark was trapped in there, and only he had the power to open the gate. As long as Clark doesn't get trapped in there again there's no worry! I hope the rest of the JL decides to not follow Ollie and instead help Clark out.
So where's Lois, Davis, the real Chloe, and Jimmy in this epi?? I guess they didn't want anything to do with the crap in this episode.
Did I mention that the girl that plays Bette (Plastique) is a bad actress IMO. Am I the only one that thinks that?
What is up with Tess?? That plot twist at the end was definitely random. Hmmm....kinda interested to see what all that is about. As of right now it looks like (spoiler) they are bringing in a new villain, the Eradicator. That's all cool and everything, but I'm starting to dislike all the story arcs about villains from Krypton. Superman had villains on earth too!!
Well enough ranting. :D Like I said already, I did like how Clark stood up to Ollie. And the special effects were really good too. And as much as I dislike Ollie now, the scenes with him and Tess were pretty humorous. Well that's about it. More cons than pros for this one. Hey maybe if the writers knew what they were doing this would have been at least 8/10.
Smalvil1
05-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Did anyone else feel woerd watching this episode? like it wasnt smallville? I think the tone of this episode was way out of line with, not only the season, but the series as a whole. It felt really... just wierd. I liked the episode i think, but i'm completely devastated they killed Livewire. Can they even do that? rediculus.
The end is really what made the episode. Everything makes sense to me now, even parts of season 7 that didnt make sense. Jor-el didnt make the orb, it was zod (or zor-el). And kandor. Wow. Im excited for doomsday.
jayyjayy
05-07-2009, 08:00 PM
Geez, an episode this off the track makes me long for the days of Lana and her witch. It's pretty clear the writers are just pulling stuff out of the comics and throwing it out there for the sake of appealing to the comic book fanbase. But it is soooooo poorly done lol. The randomness is frighteningly bad. And who's responsible for all these horrible hero speech sermons.
Clark: If there's any good in this bacon and cheese sandwich Oliver, i'll find it.
Oliver: Put your ego aside Clark, just do what needs to be done.
Clark: I won't eat this sandwich. If i do that, then I'm no better than the sandwich.
Oliver: Look Clark, sometimes we have to make hard choices. And those choices can't be taken lightly because others will get hurt.
Clark: I may have all this power but it doesn't give me the right to decide who lives and dies.
Oliver: Eat the pig and cheese Clark! Im on your side. Im not the enemy.
Clark: Then who are you?
Oliver: Im the pig's father.
Clark: What?
Oliver: I mean, Im ...Candor?
Oh for %@#$@ sake.
mr lane
05-07-2009, 08:01 PM
Did anyone else feel woerd watching this episode? like it wasnt smallville? I think the tone of this episode was way out of line with, not only the season, but the series as a whole. It felt really... just wierd. I liked the episode i think, but i'm completely devastated they killed Livewire. Can they even do that? rediculus.
i totally agree i did feel weird watching this ep
i was excited for this ep because it would stage the finale
but i felt like i was watching an episode in the middle of the season
mty09
05-07-2009, 08:04 PM
I give it a 8 good episode
Smalvil1
05-07-2009, 08:04 PM
i totally agree i did feel weird watching this ep
i was excited for this ep because it would stage the finale
but i felt like i was watching an episode in the middle of the season
At least its not just me. haha. I agree, it didnt really set up the finale wel except the last scene, and even then it was so vauge for most people.
Saber
05-07-2009, 08:06 PM
I gave it a 4, it was all over the place and beyond. Clark is just beyond dense to still keep all the Kryptonian goodies in the barn under that crappy little-bitty carpet, which might as well have said, “Look here for Clark’s secret stash”.
The performance level for all the actors was below average & wooden, just not good at all.
mr lane
05-07-2009, 08:08 PM
At least its not just me. haha. I agree, it didnt really set up the finale wel except the last scene, and even then it was so vauge for most people.
are you familiar with the mythos? cause that would explain why it might be weird for us
im finding others who dont know the mythos liked the episode very much
Promise
05-07-2009, 08:08 PM
All I can say is that I'm Speechless!!! Best episode all season. I would take these type of episodes over anything. If Season 9 is going to be like this, WOW!!! Loving Dr. Emil H. I guess I wasn't too speechless. WOW WOW WOW!!
Marfeic2011
05-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Confusing as all get out. Needed more set up than Kara mentioning Kander in Bloodline. Is Kander a pink orb instead of a city now? Oh I gave it a 7
ok - i missed like the first 15 or 20 minutes so i felt lost - what happened at the end w/ Tess & what is Kander? Did they do any lead in at the beginning to explain that whole orb/kander thing? PLEASE someone fill me in...
p.s. i love how clark reacted when he thought Chloe was dying -
No Chlark, No Spark!!!
warriorrenegade
05-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Geez, an episode this off the track makes me long for the days of Lana and her witch. It's pretty clear the writers are just pulling stuff out of the comics and throwing it out there for the sake of appealing to the comic book fanbase. But it is soooooo poorly done lol. The randomness is frighteningly bad. And who's responsible for all these horrible hero speech sermons.
Clark: If there's any good in this bacon and cheese sandwich Oliver, i'll find it.
Oliver: Put your ego aside Clark, just do what needs to be done.
Clark: I won't eat this sandwich. If i do that, then I'm no better than the sandwich.
Oliver: Look Clark, sometimes we have to make hard choices. And those choices can't be taken lightly because others will get hurt.
Clark: I may have all this power but it doesn't give me the right to decide who lives and dies.
Oliver: Eat the pig and cheese Clark! Im on your side. Im not the enemy.
Clark: Then who are you?
Oliver: Im the pig's father.
Clark: What?
Oliver: I mean, Im ...Candor?
Oh for %@#$@ sake.
Okay that's just funny as hell. :lol:
theartist27
05-07-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm not going to be generous. I give it a 1. One of my least favorite episodes of this season. :\
AgentChaos
05-07-2009, 08:14 PM
8/10. It's episodes like this that make suffering through the crap that was Stiletto worth the pain.
Marfeic2011
05-07-2009, 08:15 PM
i totally agree i did feel weird watching this ep
i was excited for this ep because it would stage the finale
but i felt like i was watching an episode in the middle of the season
i agree - and what was with the "man-whore" Oliver - I mean i know he had good reasons for covering up what what he was really doing - but that didn't justify some of what he said and did - hello sexual harassment - now i'm not complaining about a naked smooth talking Oliver - but it was so out of character and over the top ("lets pop the cork" etc) that it DID feel like i was watching a totally different show on HBO or something....:rolleyes:
oh & I am soooooooooooooooo sick of Clark putting his morality about human lives - you think he would have learned his lesson by now - maybe doomsday will beat some sense into him...
Smalvil1
05-07-2009, 08:15 PM
are you familiar with the mythos? cause that would explain why it might be weird for us
im finding others who dont know the mythos liked the episode very much
Yes i am actually. But i learned back in season 4 when they intoduced Lois Lane that Smallville and the superman mythos will never line up. I treat Smallville as its own universe.
But i still cannot beleive they killed Limewire. It's total, and literal, character assasination. That i just can't beleive. Kill bette but not Livewire.
This episode was too wierd. Like in a creepy way
bizzaroboy9
05-07-2009, 08:17 PM
I gave this a 6 b/c I wasn't comfortable with it. There were pros but more cons... I hope Doomsday is good.
I'm going to to need to see this one again. My first reaction is that I didn't love or hate it. I thought it was kinda .. meh.
And to me that's the worst type of feedback you can give an episode. Because at least when you hate something you have some emotion coming out. But this episode? It was just so flat and boring and an episode that 1) I'm more than likely never watching again and 2) that I'll forget in a few hours...forever.
Who wrote this snoozefest, anyway?
kari916
05-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Not a bad episode but not the best.
Promise
05-07-2009, 08:21 PM
10/10 This episode ROCKED! The best in weeks! I'm so phased I can't even begin to describe why this episode was so great. Everyone got a chance to shine. TW did an excellent job directing and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Def one of my favorites of the season!
EXACTLY.. Agree!!
And If I can help the confused people thus far from what I been reading on other posts, see what you got was an episode that focused on Smallville aka Clark Kent, Mythos, some future villians(notice they weren't the main story)past seasons tie-in's, etc. No campy stuff, no Clana vs Clois, no Clark Kent being the second story, you got what Smallville is suppose to be, action, suspense, basically a story about the young hero and his trials. TW gave us exactly what we needed. Direct more please.
When you get episodes like Stiletto and episodes like today so close to each other, I can understand the confusion.
mr lane
05-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Yes i am actually. But i learned back in season 4 when they intoduced Lois Lane that Smallville and the superman mythos will never line up. I treat Smallville as its own universe and in that universe, the magic orb makes sense if my theory is correct.
I believe that the orb was created by Zod or Zor-el and sent to earth as a means to do something (presumably we will find out in the finale), thats why they can comunicate through it and its why it destroyed the fortress. I do wish that orb had never existed in the first place, but i try and make sense from what im given.
But i still cannot beleive they killed Limewire. It's total, and literal, character assasination. That i just can't beleive. Kill bette but not Livewire.
I totally agree, the actress who plays bette is a horrible actress they should have totally killed her instead, we didnt even see Livewire use her powers!
I have to agree again that i knew smallville would be different when they introduced lois in season 4 and didnt have clark go off for his training or becomes superman after high school
I thought season 7 said the orb was created by jor-el? i think he even said so this season
my theory is that the orb can be used as an ulterior motive and zod has been communicating with Tess through it feeding her this save the world crap that brainiac fed lex
monel49
05-07-2009, 08:22 PM
Great episode! Give it a solid 10. But before I say why--I'm speechless, almost, with the strange comments about the complications in the ep. Are we so passive that everything has to be totally explained and given to us so that we don't even have to think. This was a deep episode with a lot of character development for Clark and there are mysteries here, but so what--isn't that what we want? How can people complain? It's almost as if they want the old Batman series back with bam, whoof, pow, etc, but no story, and no relevance. Come on guys, don't miss the forest for the trees. This was powerful stuff tonight.
Why was it so good? I'm fascinated by the way Clark's personality is developing and his moral code is being defined. In a world of violence, terrorism, etc. his struggle with killing and justice and how to fight evil is relevant and should touch each of us personally. That's what makes sci-fi great. Can't wait for next week!
I can't believe half of the second to last episode was devoted to Oliver trying to get Tess in bed or convince Clark to kill people. Not one of my favorites. I'm going to have think it over before giving it a score but it's not looking pretty.
I so wish TW had been able to direct Hex instead. What a waste.
Marfeic2011
05-07-2009, 08:24 PM
Have you noticed that they stick the actors who want to direct (Allison and now Tom) with the crappiest scripts or the most badly written episodes - I know Allison directed Power - the WORST episode ever in my opinion - and now Tom got stuck directing this - and what can they do? They write the scripts in such a way that the directors can only do so much... I feel bad for Tom that he had to direct this episode because I felt the writing was so over the top, uncreative, predictable, and even contrary to the typical tone and feel of the show... or.... it could be that Tom's just not as great as a director as he is an actor - now don't take this the wrong way cause I love the guy & I love him playing Clark - but the more I think about it the more this show just felt off to me - more than normal - and it could just have easily been the directing as it was the script :(
STFanatic
05-07-2009, 08:24 PM
For most of the episode I thought I had missed an episode before it :confused:
I had to restart the DVR to see if I had blinked and missed something, but it didn't get any clearer for me.
It just felt "off" somehow.
Perhaps another viewing of it will help.
Smalvil1
05-07-2009, 08:25 PM
I totally agree, the actress who plays bette is a horrible actress they should have totally killed her instead, we didnt even see Livewire use her powers!
I have to agree again that i knew smallville would be different when they introduced lois in season 4 and didnt have clark go off for his training or becomes superman after high school
I thought season 7 said the orb was created by jor-el? i think he even said so this season
my theory is that the orb can be used as an ulterior motive and zod has been communicating with Tess through it feeding her this save the world crap that brainiac fed lex
Well they "said" it was created by him, but i think it was Zod (or Zor-el) pretending to be him. Only time will tell. Yours could be very true as well. I wouldnt mind it.
I really wanted to beleive what the plastique actress was saying, but every line sounded so fake i wanted to cry. She was horrific. Im gonna miss livewire. Such wasted potential.:(
Smallville Vamp
05-07-2009, 08:26 PM
I gave it a 8. Oliver really made this episode for me, but the writers should be shot with poop, then run out of town for STINKING! WTF is wrong with them lately? Let's hope season 9 has a new staff set up or the show will be in serious trouble since the group in there at the moment have lost their God given minds!!!
Promise
05-07-2009, 08:27 PM
Great episode! Give it a solid 10. But before I say why--I'm speechless, almost, with the strange comments about the complications in the ep. Are we so passive that everything has to be totally explained and given to us so that we don't even have to think. This was a deep episode with a lot of character development for Clark and there are mysteries here, but so what--isn't that what we want? How can people complain? It's almost as if they want the old Batman series back with bam, whoof, pow, etc, but no story, and no relevance. Come on guys, don't miss the forest for the trees. This was powerful stuff tonight.
Why was it so good? I'm fascinated by the way Clark's personality is developing and his moral code is being defined. In a world of violence, terrorism, etc. his struggle with killing and justice and how to fight evil is relevant and should touch each of us personally. That's what makes sci-fi great. Can't wait for next week!
Whewwww, I thought I was by myself, I'm like this is going to be a record for posters being confused, but then again, its still early for comments, but anyways, love your post, and were you poking fun at me about the "I'm speechless??"lol
AndiGirl
05-07-2009, 08:28 PM
At least its not just me. haha. I agree, it didnt really set up the finale wel except the last scene, and even then it was so vauge for most people.
I think there's a lot thats going to hapeen between Clark/Ollie in the finale. And that may be what they were striving to set up. :\
ClarkyBoy14
05-07-2009, 08:29 PM
I really liked it. I wish they hadn't killed so many of the IJLers and parts were confusing, but I emjoyed the episode for the most part, and the twists were great.
I'm pumped for the finale!! :D
mr lane
05-07-2009, 08:31 PM
Well they "said" it was created by him, but i think it was Zod (or Zor-el) pretending to be him. Only time will tell. Yours could be very true as well. I wouldnt mind it.
I really wanted to beleive what the plastique actress was saying, but every line sounded so fake i wanted to cry. She was horrific. Im gonna miss livewire. Such wasted potential.:(
agreed!
all i heard from plastique was whining
keddy22
05-07-2009, 08:34 PM
Yes i am actually. But i learned back in season 4 when they intoduced Lois Lane that Smallville and the superman mythos will never line up. I treat Smallville as its own universe.
But i still cannot beleive they killed Limewire. It's total, and literal, character assasination. That i just can't beleive. Kill bette but not Livewire.
This episode was too wierd. Like in a creepy way
I'm thinking that LiveWire could be brought back, but in the form of another person - simply because Parasite can give away any power that he takes. So all he has to do is give it away to some other chick and poof! Livewire, the character, is back.
ManOfSteel87
05-07-2009, 08:34 PM
Solid 7
I thought the Injustice League was pretty weak and lack-luster to say the least. However, the ending was a total suprise that I never saw coming. It was awesome and now I'm even more pumped for next week (if that was possibly to start with b/c I was already excited enough for the entire board lol)
Night_Hawk90
05-07-2009, 08:35 PM
way too many sexual innuendo's in this episode it was really nauseating, i laughed but come on
Smallville6
05-07-2009, 08:36 PM
I loved this episode for a Lois-less episode! A HUGE step up from last weeks horrible episode and Clark and Ollie were both great playing off eachother. Plus I absolutley love Tess!
Smalvil1
05-07-2009, 08:37 PM
I'm thinking that LiveWire could be brought back, but in the form of another person - simply because Parasite can give away any power that he takes. So all he has to do is give it away to some other chick and poof! Livewire, the character, is back.
But they already killed Leslie Willis, the only Livewire. No matter who else they get it wont be the same. If Chloe had never said her real name i would have had some hope but, she ruined it.
STFanatic
05-07-2009, 08:38 PM
I have never liked Green Arrow very much.
And to be honest I never wanted him to be a regular cast member because I knew he would take screen time away from the lead character. I think the lead was supposed to be Clark.
AgentChaos
05-07-2009, 08:39 PM
Who wrote this snoozefest, anyway?
This episode was written by Al Septien and Turi Meyer, who have also written Vengeance, Fade, Labyrinth, Combat, Cure, Apocalypse, Instinct, Bride, and Turbulence.
keddy22
05-07-2009, 08:40 PM
Clark: If there's any good in this bacon and cheese sandwich Oliver, i'll find it.
Oliver: Put your ego aside Clark, just do what needs to be done.
Clark: I won't eat this sandwich. If i do that, then I'm no better than the sandwich.
Oliver: Look Clark, sometimes we have to make hard choices. And those choices can't be taken lightly because others will get hurt.
Clark: I may have all this power but it doesn't give me the right to decide who lives and dies.
Oliver: Eat the pig and cheese Clark! Im on your side. Im not the enemy.
Clark: Then who are you?
Oliver: Im the pig's father.
Clark: What?
Oliver: I mean, Im ...Candor?
Oh for %@#$@ sake.
very funny! :)
:rotfl:
Queenrocks77
05-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I was so fricken bored!!! 1
superspider02
05-07-2009, 08:57 PM
Well tom's 4th directing spot was pretty good. I thought he did another stellar job directing. He had some great camera angles and the pacing was pretty good in the scenes. I think if tom doesnt want to act more after smallville's run maybe he should get into directing tv/film.
As for the episode i thought it was a pretty good episode, and nice lead in for the season finale next week. The injustice league members of plastique, parasite, livewire, and neutron was pretty cool. It was a bit disapointing neutron got no speaking role and was killed offscreen, i wonder if their was a scene shot but cut for some reason. Same goes with livewire a bit disapointing that she was killed off also. I was hoping she would have survived to get a solo episode next season. Though the development between parasite and plastique were pretty good.
Also the plan with the shapeshifter was interesting i remember hearing folks mention their was going to be a shapeshifter in the episode as chloe and i didnt really expect that to be happening. sucks she got killed too. But now tess knows pretty much all the details on kal-el she needs to know. But i dont think it will end well for her.
I did like emil hamilton working with clark and getting another good episode expanding his character. I do hope we get a bunch of episodes with him next season. His chemistry with tom was pretty good and they worked well together. Nice to see more team work going on there.
The storyline was pretty good with tess trying to get the injustice gang to go after doomsday to get clark to take him out. But she got over her head and as we saw parasite with clark's power and plastique took her out almost if clark and ollie didnt step in. It was nice twist having clark trick ollie to doing what he wanted him to do, and how ollie got tess's print. I loved how he got out of the situation of tess walking in on him. That was a pretty funny scene.
I liked in the end clark did find out ollie was the one who did the deed and "killed" lex. Boy that scene was pretty intense and clark and ollie's relationship has been on the rocks pretty much since they first met. I wonder how things will turn out with next week's episode.
The scene with tess and clark in his barn was interesting and there goes clark's plan of sending doosmday to the phantom zone. I wonder how things will go down now. As for the final scene with tess in the library with the orb speaking to her i am like wtf is going on there. All i caught is something about her being choosen to be kandor's warrior or something. I cant wait to see what goes down in the finale with that thing. Cant wait to see finale next week. Should be a good episode.
Sports72Xtrm
05-07-2009, 08:59 PM
I liked it I gave it an 8. I guess I was wrong. There was a better way than the Phantom Zone. I just didn't think of black kryptonite.
keddy22
05-07-2009, 08:59 PM
I feel that by titling this episode "Injustice" it automatically created a hurdle for the show. My expectations alone from the moment I read about there being an episode with this title (months ago) would make it next to impossible to meet (especially with budget constraints). It was obvious that the writers didn't want to make that kind of episode as well. They wanted to show a "beginner injustice league"... therefor it has to pale in comparison to the real thing. SV is all about rough beginnings (and slow journeys).
So instead we will deal with the Injustice League in season 9, maybe by then there will be more money to really show these guys off?
Yeah, I too, felt that they were really nailing it home, again, with Clark and Oliver. I guess it makes sense if it is indeed something that they're trying to set up in the next episode.
I kinda wish that the "feeling" and/or "pacing" that came with this episode was swapped with the previous one. At the end of Beast I felt I was ready for the Doomsday episode.
i give the episode a 7.5
ginnyfan
05-07-2009, 09:05 PM
I gave the episode a 10/10 for keeping me on the edge of my seat, Chloe not really being Chloe, The Injustice League and the way it mirrored the Justice League, Oliver/Clark confrontations, Clark's Black K plan and that Kandor confusion from the Orb.
It's really just more stalling for the finale, which should take off points. I didn't understand much of what Tess said in her last scene with Clark. A lot of the dialog was clunky. I think my fave character - besides Clark - in this episode would be Eva Greer. She did a great job deceiving Clark in the beginning as a tearful Chloe. She figured out about Tess killing her friend. I felt sorry for her and wondered if she were related to Tina.
Oliver was sort of a bond girl in this one. Seducing the bad guy and then going for the loot. It was kind of funny and kind of stomach turning at the same time.
Parasite was a nice surprise. Can Parasite really give people's powers back? I wonder where Oliver put Plastique and Parasite.
So Chloe being around Doomsday keeps him from transforming unless he's attacked, or angry, or she's in danger or...
hmm.
I think that Jor-el is right about Clark's connection to humans making him weak. But I like it. Chloe being in danger completely derailed Clark. Then Tess using the meteor infected kids to find Davis derailed him. Then Tess stole the crystal. Stall, stall, stall.
I like that Clark is trying to save Davis' human side no matter what. It's similar to the way he wanted to save Chloe and get rid of Brainiac. Just wish it were all better written. Ah well.
I probably should have given it an 8 but... *shrug*
Khyla
05-07-2009, 09:08 PM
I MISSED CHLOE! Other than that I enjoyed the episode.
As soon as Chloe started talking I knew it wasn't her. She didn't act like Chloe. I really missed her in this episode; even though we had AM there, we didn't have Chloe :(
I LOVE Ollie! He's so adorable! I knew he wasn't just trying to get into Tess' pants, but it was so cute the way he went about pretending so he could get her fingerprint, It must have been really hard work for him :lol, but in the scene in her bedroom, he must've been sh!ttin' himself, and he still came off cool, and Tess was so flattered that she never thought he might really be after something other than her. (gullible! :lol; ), We got a glimpse that she really does care for him when he was put down by those MF's and she goes "Oliver!?", you could hear the concern in her voice. I kinda felt sorry for Oliver, too because he really worked his tail off to help Clark out but didn't get a lot of gratitude.
I was a little disappointed that there were so few members in the"Injustice" team. I thought they would have shown us a larger group. :\
My TV decided to go black just at the part where Clark goes to get the crystal, near the end, It still had sound but we were talking over it wondering what the hell happened with the TV, so I missed most of it. :\
Smallville Vamp
05-07-2009, 09:13 PM
I love Oliver. If it wasn't for GA taking charge and thinking on the move tonight there would be one DEAD Clark Kent right about now, Parasite was so going to waste him!
Starscream
05-07-2009, 09:13 PM
The only things I really enjoyed in this episode was the partnership between Clark and Emil Hamilton(really hope this carries over into the next season),and of course Tess!!!:p
KryptoKnight
05-07-2009, 09:15 PM
For the most part, this was a good episode. I was pretty satisfied with it because of Tess and the tension she is causing. But I hope they can find some better kid actors than what they had with parasite and firestarter, whatever she is called. Her whiny voice plugs up my ears...oh wait, maybe THAT's another of her superpowers
keddy22
05-07-2009, 09:19 PM
I love Oliver. If it wasn't for GA taking charge and thinking on the move tonight there would be one DEAD Clark Kent right about now, Parasite was so going to waste him!
Yes, you got that right.
:)
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The only things I really enjoyed in this episode was the partnership between Clark and Emil Hamilton(really hope this carries over into the next season),and of course Tess!!!:p
I'm finding myself leaning that way as well with regards to Emil Hamilton. I think it would be good to have him in season 9.
rosalba
05-07-2009, 09:21 PM
I give it a 10 just because it was focused on my favorite character Clark kent and his morals code and Yeah! an episode without the anoying character of Chloe.
Mackdaddy
05-07-2009, 09:26 PM
I give it a 10 just because it was focused on my favorite character Clark kent and his morals code and Yeah! an episode without the anoying character of Chloe.
not the only annoying character missing from this episode
Sue Denim
05-07-2009, 09:29 PM
10/10 although that doesn't mean that I found the episode perfect. I was surprised by the end, and thought it came from no where. I had no idea that Tess was working for the disembodied voice of twenty-sided die. I suspect that Tess might be able to claim foul later on. I don't think the voice is Jor-El. Jor-El is into possessing people, unless there's something I don't know.
If there are GSP chips inside the Black Creek patients, does Chloe have one? I think she might have had one but it became part of Brainiac and removed in Legion. It doesn't make any sense to me that she wasn't fitted with one, when she was a very high profile resident of the facility cracking codes and such. The GPS device is a security measure and Chloe did appear to be a valuable asset to Luthorcorp.
I do not get death anvil from this, however, Eva as Chloe dying in Clark's was very moving. Both actors played it beautifully, even though Chlark was fighting at first, the sudden switch in Clark's voice to concern and then horror said so much.
Same thing with the hands. The dialog in that scene was a little yucky, with Eva as Chloe manipulting Clark's feelings, trying to get Clark to become angry enough to kill Davis. They were in a wedding shot, and when her hands went to Clark's and they were held, I dunno. It was more intimate than some kisses I've seen with them. They were totally fixed on each other. It was a very nice directional choice to add texture to some tricky dialog. The framing was nicely done too.
Clark looked huged in the scene at first because they put the camera on the floor and pointing it up at TW. It reminded me of Citizen Kane actually. And then it switches to Chloe were she's small and broken. And Clark comes down to her level. It was just a wonderful way to shoot it in my opinion. I really hope that was something TW decided to do as the director. He got a better telling of the scene I do believe.
Regarding Eva as Chloe, I knew already because I follow spoilers that there was a strong chance that this wasn't Chloe as the episode started. The beauty of this is that Clark didn't know, and that anything that looked like Chlark was because Clark was towing the shipping line. When they sat across from each other in front of the fire (a Chlark place), my heart went thud not because of what Chloe did, but because of how Clark reacted.
What a nice episode before the finale next week, I hope we'll get some explaination about Tess and the disembodied voice.
halvor311
05-07-2009, 09:39 PM
10. I loved it. It was so good. Tess was great and the Chloe shapeshifting caught me completely by surprise. I couldn't understand a word of what that orb thing said to her though. My theory is that it's Brainiac. But someone needs to tell me what the heck it said. And Oliver Queen flat out telling Clark that he murdered Lex was one of those WTF??? moments. I loved it. 10 definitely.
Lilah
05-07-2009, 09:40 PM
I gave it a 10 just for that final scene. It made me stand up straight. Woo hoo I can't wait for next week!
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I MISSED CHLOE! Other than that I enjoyed the episode.
As soon as Chloe started talking I knew it wasn't her. She didn't act like Chloe. I really missed her in this episode; even though we had AM there, we didn't have Chloe :(
I LOVE Ollie! He's so adorable! I knew he wasn't just trying to get into Tess' pants, but it was so cute the way he went about pretending so he could get her fingerprint, It must have been really hard work for him :lol, but in the scene in her bedroom, he must've been sh!ttin' himself, and he still came off cool, and Tess was so flattered that she never thought he might really be after something other than her. (gullible! :lol; ), We got a glimpse that she really does care for him when he was put down by those MF's and she goes "Oliver!?", you could hear the concern in her voice. I kinda felt sorry for Oliver, too because he really worked his tail off to help Clark out but didn't get a lot of gratitude.
I was a little disappointed that there were so few members in the"Injustice" team. I thought they would have shown us a larger group. :\
My TV decided to go black just at the part where Clark goes to get the crystal, near the end, It still had sound but we were talking over it wondering what the hell happened with the TV, so I missed most of it. :\
I prefered the shape shifter Chloe to the real thing. It should Clark how easily he can be manipulated... yeah he should work on that considering what's coming.:rotfl:
I wonder if they'll ever let us know what Chloe was up to while Davis killed that guy. And why she and Davis haven't made it any farther from Metropolis than Grandville. The convo in the Teaser made it sound like it'd been days since they left.
susangail
05-07-2009, 09:49 PM
They had me right up until the mystic weirdo scene at the end. I gave it an 8.
Copyguy
05-07-2009, 09:50 PM
It was ok but that last scene confused the heck out of me.
I put my ear right to the speaker to hear the Jor-El--like Voice speaking. "Did you destroy the crystal?" Tess did.
"So, you will be the savior of Kandor." was the final line. I swear.
I looked Kandor up on google. I actually searched Gandor And Superman and was asked if I meant Kandor. Then I found the various histories of the capital city of Krypton according to many different timelines in comics, etc... Is Kandor was shrunken and put in a bottle by Brainiac? Is Kara's mind entertained by this copy put into her ship as she traveled to Earth? A shrunken city, once the capital of Krypton is a common thread to everything I read. I wonder how that will play into the next two seasons.
Eight of Nine.
Supsfan
05-07-2009, 09:52 PM
I gave it a solid 8. Much better when the show focuses on Clark then the stuff we got last week
Karafan1
05-07-2009, 09:53 PM
I loved "Injustice"! The ending was very surprising! I give it a 9 1/2..
Copyguy
05-07-2009, 09:54 PM
I wonder if they'll ever let us know what Chloe was up to while Davis killed that guy. And why she and Davis haven't made it any farther from Metropolis than Grandville. The convo in the Teaser made it sound like it'd been days since they left.
I believe that an unjustice freak covered Every scene of Chloe in this episode. The real Chloe may have gotten further. I suspect that in the finale, we will see Chloe continuing what she must have been doing during this time.
When Chloe prevented Clark from sending a beast to the Zone I thought that was out of character. I'm not convinced that she would do that as herself. Is Brainiac controling Chloe? Making Davis give in to let the beast out by selling Clark as such an antihero?
I think that Chloe as a villian, specifically the new incarnation of BrainIAC is the best way to keep her in the show. Far better than continuing with her as she is now.
The real Chloe may have gotten further.Not if she's still with Dooms and Dooms killed the Injustice guy (Neutron?) in Grandville.
When Chloe prevented Clark from sending a beast to the Zone I thought that was out of character. I'm not convinced that she would do that as herself.You think maybe she wasn't Chloe in Beast either?
Violet-Shadow
05-07-2009, 10:03 PM
5...just okay. It wasn't great but I didn't hate it. Mediocre, IMO. I think my favorite character was Plastique. Uh, nothing more to write about this episode.
Copyguy
05-07-2009, 10:04 PM
10/10 although that doesn't mean that I found the episode perfect. I was surprised by the end, and thought it came from no where. I had no idea that Tess was working for the disembodied voice of twenty-sided die. I suspect that Tess might be able to claim foul later on. I don't think the voice is Jor-El. Jor-El is into possessing people, unless there's something I don't know.
If there are GSP chips inside the Black Creek patients, does Chloe have one? I think she might have had one but it became part of Brainiac and removed in Legion. It doesn't make any sense to me that she wasn't fitted with one, when she was a very high profile resident of the facility cracking codes and such. The GPS device is a security measure and Chloe did appear to be a valuable asset to Luthorcorp.
I do not get death anvil from this, however, Eva as Chloe dying in Clark's was very moving. Both actors played it beautifully, even though Chlark was fighting at first, the sudden switch in Clark's voice to concern and then horror said so much.
Same thing with the hands. The dialog in that scene was a little yucky, with Eva as Chloe manipulting Clark's feelings, trying to get Clark to become angry enough to kill Davis. They were in a wedding shot, and when her hands went to Clark's and they were held, I dunno. It was more intimate than some kisses I've seen with them. They were totally fixed on each other. It was a very nice directional choice to add texture to some tricky dialog. The framing was nicely done too.
Clark looked huged in the scene at first because they put the camera on the floor and pointing it up at TW. It reminded me of Citizen Kane actually. And then it switches to Chloe were she's small and broken. And Clark comes down to her level. It was just a wonderful way to shoot it in my opinion. I really hope that was something TW decided to do as the director. He got a better telling of the scene I do believe.
Regarding Eva as Chloe, I knew already because I follow spoilers that there was a strong chance that this wasn't Chloe as the episode started. The beauty of this is that Clark didn't know, and that anything that looked like Chlark was because Clark was towing the shipping line. When they sat across from each other in front of the fire (a Chlark place), my heart went thud not because of what Chloe did, but because of how Clark reacted.
What a nice episode before the finale next week, I hope we'll get some explaination about Tess and the disembodied voice.
I'll agree that it was a great episode despite its problems. Tess appears to be more concerned with the orb than other things. Maybe that is why she didn't address Oliver's entering her home with suspicion. He left in a sheet while concealing his costume and the stolen artifact?
And the idea of an injustice team was poorly paced in this season. The resolution of that story arc is dissappointing at best. Oliver's containing them (a girl who blows things up) is a hole that better get more attention. Good team VS evil team has yet to happen on the show.
I don't know how humans can now destroy crystals, why Clark keeps so many away from the fortress, and what they can do to Doomsday. I hope that he has to do something else because using them will feel too much like a copout.
This new doctor has too many talents. He can track sattellite signals, investigate crime sceenes, and he is originally a doctor for when aliens get hurt. If he isn't cast for upcoming shows his presence was too much. I liked the sporty car part though.
Why mention John Jones if he won't be in the show? Is he in the finale? Or was impulse the returning star who will become a regular? That is the new thought that will keep me up at night. I don't care who dies, I just want to know who returns.
Eight
Kryptochloe
05-07-2009, 10:24 PM
Four. Honestly I didn't like the episode very much. The IL was absolutely expendable on this episode on my POV.
Bre723
05-07-2009, 10:28 PM
I really liked this episode.
I gave it a 9, it was a really great episode.
I loved the Clark and Oliver scenes, I've heard some people say that they didn't care for the dialog, but I actually had no problems with it.
I thought everything was pretty well delivered.
Lilah
05-07-2009, 10:53 PM
I put my ear right to the speaker to hear the Jor-El--like Voice speaking. "Did you destroy the crystal?" Tess did.
"So, you will be the savior of Kandor." was the final line. I swear.
I looked Kandor up on google. I actually searched Gandor And Superman and was asked if I meant Kandor. Then I found the various histories of the capital city of Krypton according to many different timelines in comics, etc... Is Kandor was shrunken and put in a bottle by Brainiac? Is Kara's mind entertained by this copy put into her ship as she traveled to Earth? A shrunken city, once the capital of Krypton is a common thread to everything I read. I wonder how that will play into the next two seasons.
Eight of Nine.
I don't think it was Jor-El though.... they would have credited Terrence Stamp wouldn't they? I'm leaning toward Zod but isn't he in the PZ?
jpfort1957
05-07-2009, 11:04 PM
I thought it was great.........now I want "DOOMSDAY"
SVFancross
05-07-2009, 11:06 PM
Actions that Clark firmly supports. I was so pleased that Clark just said it plainly. Chloe was right. And now Clark also doesn't trust Oliver.GREAT POINT!
I loved the theme of this episode: Clark is standing firm on his morals. Even better, he and Chloe are as close as ever and on the same side.
"Injustice" is the attitude that Clark should kill Davis. I think the meta is pretty clear and I'm thrilled they are exploring that. I think this episode has a great deal of development for Clark. Not only was he driving the action, he never waivered.
I also thought Dr. Hamilton saying that love drives us to secrets was a meta support for Chloe's decisions regarding Davis.
After weeks of listening to the bashing talk about Chloe, it's nice to see the show support her so well.
Other great bits:
- Chloe's voice activates Clark's hearing--- again, and I think this is a new mileage record.
- Compassionate Clark. I loved how he took care of Chloe when he thought she was really emotionally beat up. I got the impression he wasn't letting her out of his sight. What a sweetheart. After all the distance this year, even though it wasn't really Chloe, Clark's bond to Chloe was evident from Clark's side this episode. Nice to see that again.
- We get to hear what Clark is really thinking. So many times his statements are interpretable, this episode I felt like I was really hearing what he was thinking. A treat.
- A Clark heavy episode --- or at least it certainly seemed so.
Didn't like:
- How far they've pushed Ollie to the wrong side. I get that having Tess advocating Davis' death is meaningless because she's the villain. To have a good guy advocate for this made Clark's position so much more unique. This Clark is my Superman. He doesn't kill and he doesn't give up on people.
- They are clearly ramping up the pace for the finale. I wish they didn't make so many leaps. The disco ball thing was important and I feel it's rushed.
Well look at that:
- Apparently SV can't have an episode without someone in the role of amazing tech geek, exposition lead. Since Chloe wasn't there they used Dr. Hamilton. So much for it being driven by Chloe's characterization. It's a SV crutch and she usually pulls the duty. This week Dr. Hamilton got the task.
- Hey! J'onn Jones reference!
Overall, I liked the episode because it 1) focused on Clark's morals, 2) reaffirmed the bond between Chlark, and 3) affirmed Chloe's decisions (by Clark himself! yay). I like JH and self-depreciating comedy but wish it hadn't been so crude. I knocked a few points off for that.
smallville_is_awesome
05-07-2009, 11:13 PM
To me the episode was as good as it can get with out Lois :D
lana 9
05-07-2009, 11:52 PM
i give it a 5 i like it but not the best
zetnom49
05-07-2009, 11:53 PM
Thought it was a pretty good epi, and i find it hilarious that Superman carries a PSP around thats coooo... And my iPhone doesnt do what oliver's does, guess if i had a billion dollars i could buy that app
ps real excited to see Impluse for the finale!!
The Dark Knight74
05-07-2009, 11:56 PM
I gave it a 9.
Lilah
05-07-2009, 11:57 PM
The fact that Emil did what was dubbed as "Chloe's job" just shows us that she's expandable... We don't need her next season.
mfarhaniqbal33
05-07-2009, 11:59 PM
I was confused in this episode too. But i liked it a lot. This was a perfect setup for the finale i mean why the heck people think this did not set up a finale. Ollie and Clark's distrust this is a setup. A injustice league member murdered by Davis even though he is with Chloe that is a setup. Clark decided to take care of Doomsday which will ultimately mean a battle. WHAT THE more DO U ALL WANT?
Krypto_marcus
05-08-2009, 12:16 AM
10/10 This episode ROCKED! The best in weeks! I'm so phased I can't even begin to describe why this episode was so great. Everyone got a chance to shine. TW did an excellent job directing and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Def one of my favorites of the season!
I totally agree! It was a perfect setup for the finale.
SVFancross
05-08-2009, 12:56 AM
We don't need her next season.
She's pretty central to the show this year. I think she's needed.
Jlvsclrk
05-08-2009, 12:57 AM
I really liked this episode. My major quibble was the length of the Tess-Ollie scenes - I just found him so utterly creepy in the way he kept persisting. Yuck! Yes, I know he had to get her fingerprint in the first scene, but we didn't need that long (and boring) a scene to set that up.
But I loved Clark in this episode and the way we got to hear him articulate his moral stance so clearly. So sad that Tess has taken away the last possible option to prevent his battle with Doomsday - one which has the potential to take both their lives. And I think that's exactly what the voice in the orb wants. It looks like we're seeing the setup for the S9 master villain.
amalie
05-08-2009, 01:00 AM
I think this episode fell a little flat because it slowed the momentum we had going after Beast which was accelerated when we got the Doomsday trailer. Injustice just felt like a hurdle before we get to the good stuff but I did enjoy it.
OkiyaShuichi
05-08-2009, 01:58 AM
Awesome!!
Selina
05-08-2009, 03:40 AM
I gave it a six.
Overall it just seemd very flat.
MJDSuperman
05-08-2009, 04:25 AM
i now consider smallville a opening act for supernatural this episode sucked
tmchale1970
05-08-2009, 04:26 AM
i gave it a 7 but a little bitty confusing.bring on the finale.
Sarrkazztic
05-08-2009, 05:27 AM
I gave it a 10...I loved how intense it was and the use of different colors and lighting...thought Tom did an excellent job of directing....I am with the others tho...the Kandor thing at the end kind of confused me....I hope that gets cleared up soon.
CallMeClark
05-08-2009, 05:48 AM
I gave it a 10...I loved how intense it was and the use of different colors and lighting...thought Tom did an excellent job of directing....I am with the others tho...the Kandor thing at the end kind of confused me....I hope that gets cleared up soon.
I really really liked it. I gave it a 10. And I was thinking the same thing about the lighting!This year there seems to be a much more serious and dark tone to the series, both in colors and storylines. It isn't the happy show it once was. And I like that. It almost feels like a graphic novel at some points. This episode was especially like that.
BeldarofRemulak
05-08-2009, 06:00 AM
7/10 I liked the episode, but it seems that the characters are going nuts....all of them.
stenochick
05-08-2009, 06:18 AM
That was awesome!!!!
I noticed some comments about poor dialogue but I have definitely heard a lot worse and quite recently, so I have no qualms about the writing.
The directing was great. Everything was great. I seem to enjoy the episodes when there are more than four characters present, some location shots or new sets are thrown in the mix, and the annoying score is kept to a minimum.
Clark was so amazing. I never really thought about how hard it is to stand up for the higher good in the kinds of situations in which Clark finds himself. He really is a Christ figure, misunderstood and totally contrarian. It appears that Olliver will be the Judas that betrays Clark, not Chloe as we were originally led to believe.
"Doomsday" is going to rock!!!! I predict it will be among the best Smallville finales ever!!!
P.S. What was that weird "Savior of Kandor" stuff that the orb was saying to Tess? I didn't know whether I should bust out laughing or be totally intrigued.
costas22
05-08-2009, 06:31 AM
Fantastic episode with a shocking ending. 9 from me.
stenochick
05-08-2009, 06:33 AM
GREAT POINT!
I loved the theme of this episode: Clark is standing firm on his morals. Even better, he and Chloe are as close as ever and on the same side.
"Injustice" is the attitude that Clark should kill Davis. I think the meta is pretty clear and I'm thrilled they are exploring that. I think this episode has a great deal of development for Clark. Not only was he driving the action, he never waivered.
I also thought Dr. Hamilton saying that love drives us to secrets was a meta support for Chloe's decisions regarding Davis.
After weeks of listening to the bashing talk about Chloe, it's nice to see the show support her so well.
Other great bits:
- Chloe's voice activates Clark's hearing--- again, and I think this is a new mileage record.
- Compassionate Clark. I loved how he took care of Chloe when he thought she was really emotionally beat up. I got the impression he wasn't letting her out of his sight. What a sweetheart. After all the distance this year, even though it wasn't really Chloe, Clark's bond to Chloe was evident from Clark's side this episode. Nice to see that again.
- We get to hear what Clark is really thinking. So many times his statements are interpretable, this episode I felt like I was really hearing what he was thinking. A treat.
- A Clark heavy episode --- or at least it certainly seemed so.
Didn't like:
- How far they've pushed Ollie to the wrong side. I get that having Tess advocating Davis' death is meaningless because she's the villain. To have a good guy advocate for this made Clark's position so much more unique. This Clark is my Superman. He doesn't kill and he doesn't give up on people.
- They are clearly ramping up the pace for the finale. I wish they didn't make so many leaps. The disco ball thing was important and I feel it's rushed.
Well look at that:
- Apparently SV can't have an episode without someone in the role of amazing tech geek, exposition lead. Since Chloe wasn't there they used Dr. Hamilton. So much for it being driven by Chloe's characterization. It's a SV crutch and she usually pulls the duty. This week Dr. Hamilton got the task.
- Hey! J'onn Jones reference!
Overall, I liked the episode because it 1) focused on Clark's morals, 2) reaffirmed the bond between Chlark, and 3) affirmed Chloe's decisions (by Clark himself! yay). I like JH and self-depreciating comedy but wish it hadn't been so crude. I knocked a few points off for that.
Great review! ITA!!
superhippie2000
05-08-2009, 06:37 AM
i enjoyed it :D i just wish we got to see doomsday or something.
BackToTheLies
05-08-2009, 06:57 AM
worst episode this season, for me.
hazel
05-08-2009, 07:28 AM
I just saw the ep so my thoughts are a bit of a jumble.
I love the conversation between Clarke and Oliver. Finally. at long last, Clarke answers someone that demands of him to kill ("because it's the only way", "because u have to do everything to stop the bad guys" "because i did it and so shall u" or whatever) and not only that he answer he gave the right answer! It's about time!
he had a good plan IMO.
He stood up to Olli, he stood up to Tess, he confronted who he thought was Chloe.
He listen to the right pepole like Emil, he didn't jump before he looked.
he was great.
on the other hand, the ep was a little predictable, more than a little.
Eva-as-Chloe give a good explanation to Chloe behaviour in at least this half of the season. Actully she was more Chloe than Chloe was since the begining of the season. that felt weird, so i half expected for her to morph. i didn't trust her, i didn't wanted Clarke to trust with is plan, and i was right.
oh, and i gave it a 8
saltyweeks
05-08-2009, 07:48 AM
Great episode! Give it a solid 10. But before I say why--I'm speechless, almost, with the strange comments about the complications in the ep. Are we so passive that everything has to be totally explained and given to us so that we don't even have to think. This was a deep episode with a lot of character development for Clark and there are mysteries here, but so what--isn't that what we want? How can people complain? It's almost as if they want the old Batman series back with bam, whoof, pow, etc, but no story, and no relevance. Come on guys, don't miss the forest for the trees. This was powerful stuff tonight.
Why was it so good? I'm fascinated by the way Clark's personality is developing and his moral code is being defined. In a world of violence, terrorism, etc. his struggle with killing and justice and how to fight evil is relevant and should touch each of us personally. That's what makes sci-fi great. Can't wait for next week!
:) yep.
badraven
05-08-2009, 07:51 AM
What a fantastic episode! 10 outta 10 (really a 9.8 out of 10 but that isn't an option.)
In many ways this episode was a giant chess match between Tess and Clark, which was a great continuation of what happened in 'Turbulence.' Playing 'White'- Clark and playing 'Black'- Tess. Unfortuantly for Clark it seems that Tess got the first move and that Clark at the beginning of the episode thought he was only playing against "Davis."
Tess' "gambit"- to manipulate Clark to fight Doomsday and just as important it seems, for Clark to try and kill Doomsday. Opening move: the constant stories in the DP about "Davis." IMO Tess was trying to ratchet up the pressure on Clark and force him to "act" ei- kill "Davis." Second move: get someone on the inside to futher move Clark in the direction she wanted. Enter- "Chole." A perfect move on Tess' part. Clark gets his best friend back and now she is singing Tess' tune: "Davis" is an existential threat and must be killed. Also notice how "Chole" paints a horrible picture for Clark about her time with "Davis." Just another reason for Clark to seek a "final" way to end the problem. Third move: she uses her "pawns"- the "Injustice Gang" to move both Clark and "Davis" toward the end she seeks. And just like real pawns Tess sacrifices them without thought or mercy to achieve her objective. All in all a very complicated plan and one that the episode brought together beautifully IMO. And last but not least the coup de grâce at the end of the episode- more on that later.
Clark's strategy- save Chole, save the World, save "Davis" and stop Doomsday. To that end he refined his plan from 'Beast.' Now he intends to use Black Kryptonite to split off "Davis" from Doomsday. Then with "Davis" saved Clark can use the crystal to exile Doomsday for, hopefully, all-time to the Phantom Zone. Obviously Chole's words in 'Beast' had a great effect on Clark and had modified his plan accordingly. Of course hand in hand with this effect would be to get Chole away from "Davis" and save her from herself. As in 'Beast,' Clark is shown putting pieces together, making a plan and then working that plan. Fantastic stuff. Again- unfortuantly for Clark he didn't realize just who he was playing against in this episode and Tess stopped his plan.
I'm very surprised by a lot of the negative reaction on this threat about this episode; to each his or her own but for me this was the second best episode of the season (just behind 'Legion') and one of the best of the series. You had a great, if complicated plot. You had Clark being proactive. You had Tess being crazy-nuts. And you everything else pretty much kicked. I read somewhere else that this episode was a lot like a middle "chapter" in a trilogy ('Beast' 'Injustice' 'Doomsday') and I agree a lot with that assessment. Just like a middle "chapter" we end kind of on a low note and it mainly sets up the final. I know a lot of people have been upset about how the "Injustice Gang" was used but they were nothing more than Tess' pawns and were used as cannon fodder. Again- everyone is right for themselves but I thought 'Injustice' hit it out of the park.
Very quickly. I thought TW did a great job directing. It was a very different look and feel from a normal episode of SV and IMO it worked perfectly. All the regulars brought their 'A' game especially TW, CF and AM. TW was awesome but AM was even better. She played "Chole" just different enough. Also I loved Clark standing up to all the people that wanted to him to KILL. Clark/Superman is better than that and this episode did a great job of showing that. Now for the coup de grâce with Tess...that was a true- WTFRACK!? moment. Bring it on. Will be rewatching this one for sure, can't wait for the finale.
Joelito
05-08-2009, 08:20 AM
Man! Filler episode until it explodes by itself ¬¬
6 points to the episode..
Chloe>All
05-08-2009, 08:23 AM
9. Solid episode that sets up the finale well.
SupesComicFan
05-08-2009, 08:55 AM
First of all, there WAS NO Chlark, because Chloe was NOT in this episode. So, to speak of "Chlark" would be wrong. More like Cleva. Chloe and Clark were NOT on the same side in this episdoe, Chloe is still with Doomsday.
I will have to watch again to decide on my rating.
cma_454
05-08-2009, 09:13 AM
If I had to rate this right now, it would be a 3 (or lower). At this time, all I can say is it was better than Power and Requiem. But, that's not saying much.
I'm going to wait until after Doomsday. Maybe that will allow me to see this episode in a better light.
Sue Denim
05-08-2009, 09:55 AM
What a fantastic episode! 10 outta 10 (really a 9.8 out of 10 but that isn't an option.)
That's about where I stand on this one. It wasn't perfect. It was extremely good, and very few episodes get the an immediate rewatch, but this one did. This episode is probably in my top ten of the series.
Enter- "Chole." A perfect move on Tess' part.
I'm not sure how Tess knew Chloe left town with Davis/Doomsday. Only Clark & Oliver know that. First hunch is that Chloe does have a GPS device like the others in Injustice League, however, if Chloe did know, Tess would know exactly were Davis/Doomsday was too--thus nullifying the need to hunt Davis/Doomsday down.
I'm pretty sure now, if Chloe ever had one, it's gone. Most likely removed in "Legion" when Brainiac was magnetically pulled out of Chloe.
Now he intends to use Black Kryptonite to split off "Davis" from Doomsday. Was I the only one that groaned at the mention of Black K? And isn't it a little weird that Chloe* needed to be told about Black K? I know that it was necessary for the exposition of the story and that Chloe also didn't know about RedK at one time, but I was hoping for something other than a Black K solution for the finale.
Obviously Chole's words in 'Beast' had a great effect on Clark and had modified his plan accordingly.
The FoS scene in "Beast" is a little messed up imo. Still I was very happy that Clark understood Chloe's point-of-view, and accepted her disagreements with his plan and modify it into something better. He flat out said Chloe had been right!
Also I loved Clark standing up to all the people that wanted to him to KILL. Clark/Superman is better than that and this episode did a great job of showing that. Now for the coup de grâce with Tess...that was a true- WTFRACK!? moment. Bring it on. Will be rewatching this one for sure, can't wait for the finale.
What I liked is how even though Tess and Oliver has told Clark that Chloe is in cohoots with the Cornfield Killer, he can't believe it. He refers to Chloe as a hostage in the situation with the most to lose. Now, whether or not Chloe is in love with Davis is one thing, but the fact that Clark keeps coming back to the idea that she's a victim here in some way. This is the question that showrunners want us to consider, if I recall correctly. Is Chloe doing this because she loves Davis or Clark?
This was a great episode, I especially liked the nice call back to the Fever Letter too. Clark couldn't believe he didn't see through [Eva's] her disguise until "Chloe" died.
Doomsday is going to be fantastic!
SnowBird
05-08-2009, 10:06 AM
This was a great episode with action and intrigue......Tom Welling did a wonderful job directing. I really liked the camera angles and the acting by all was excellent......We even got a cliffhanger before the cliffhanger of the finale. I'm really wondering about the orb and what it has to do with Tess and the future.....Even though the Injustice league was short lived, I have a feeling it isn't the last we have seen of them in Smallville.....I liked the fact that Clark was strong in his convictions even though everyone else was against him. I always enjoy a Clark heavy episode and it was good to see him in many of the scenes.....I hope Dr. Hamilton will be in more episodes as he makes a nice addition to the cast.....Clark and Oliver scenes are intense as their friendship keeps growing farther apart....This episode leaves us with questions but it wasn't intended to stand on it's own since it was a lead into "Doomsday" next week and season 9. I'm really looking forward to both....."Injustice" receives a 10 from a satisfied viewer.
Blanca
05-08-2009, 10:21 AM
this was among the silliest episodes ever. Clark is (and evidently will be in the season finale) a complete idiot as is the rule in this show.
SandyV
05-08-2009, 10:26 AM
I was not that impressed with this episode except for:
Clark rocked in this episode. He was strong and thought for himself. Even when everyone had given up on Davis/Doomsday, he was still making the distintion between them. He had taken the time to come up with a plan to save Davis and eliminate the the threat of Doomsday all by himself.
Clark was leading others to help him. He asked Ollie to get the Black K and gave Ollie a logical sounding explanation. Ollie was implementing Clark's plan, not the other way around.
For me, both these points are monumental. He is becoming the Superman I have been waiting to see.
I had not read any spoilers, but "Chloe" seemed a bit off. I attributed it, like Clark, to emerging from her "doom"ed relationship. All the dialogue she said could have been for the real Chloe. So I put it to the back of my mind until the scene at Isis. When she started to glow, I thought she was healing herself actually. I think that the reason I thought it was Chloe was that Clark thought it was Chloe and reacted accordingly.
I rewatched it after it was over. (I love my DVR!) It was a different episode knowing that was not Chloe. Some of the scenes that had me wondering what Chloe had been up to OffScreenVille were better explained. I could have believed that Bette and Chloe were still in contact, but as Eva, it made much more sense.
All about Clark
05-08-2009, 10:28 AM
I'm giving it a 9, however 9.5 might be closer. I have to deduct for the crystal being able to be destroyed by a human, that does against cannon. The eppy flowed really well and the tension between Clark and Oliver and Clark and Tess are reaching new heights.
Clark was amazing in this episode. He stood his ground and followed his plan (which was a really good one, by the way) without letting anyone's arguments stall him or sidetrack him. For once, he was the one taking the lead and coordinating the efforts of the people involved in order to solve the problem. I was a bit shocked that he lied to Oliver like that, but I guess I can understand his doubts about where Oliver really stands right now. I wonder about that myself, actually, and I'd hate to see the two of them fighting each other, but that's what's going to happen, apparently. Nevertheless, it was a very powerful scene. The one near the ending too, when Clark confronts Oliver about Lex's ring. The acting was great, I really felt for both of the characters. I also liked Clark's interaction with Doctor Hamilton. He provided some useful information and backup, but it was still Clark calling the shots and deciding the best course of action. It didn’t feel like he was the brain and Clark the muscle, they were both figuring things out, and the doctor seemed to actually acknowledge and respect Clark’s skills and competence in what is actually his own field of expertise, something that I can’t say I’ve seen recently, especially when it was Chloe playing the role of the scientific sidekick. The bit about Clark finding the car made me laugh. Maybe because it reminded me of James bond movies, I don’t know, but I found it really funny. Also, for a show where people, even the not-superpowered ones, are constantly popping up in some place mere seconds after they were shown in a totally different, supposedly far away setting, it was a nice touch of credibility. And now Tess’s nonsense from Eternal starts to actually make sense, in a way. Speaking of which, Clark’s line about ambushing him in the barn and calling him an alien Jesus was priceless. But it seems like Tess was just talking rubbish so she could manipulate Clark and Davis both into doing what the thing in the orb wants them to do. If that’s how things will turn out, it’s a very good twist.
Tess’s team wasn’t much of a threat, but I’m not really disappointed. For now, they’re just a bunch of scared kids, but in the future, who knows? I can give them the benefit of the doubt.
So, yeah, I really liked this episode. The only thing that I didn’t quite understand was Oliver in Tess’s bed. It seemed like a ridiculous thing to do. I mean, why couldn’t he just leave? It would have been much quicker and easier. Meh.
FlashInSV
05-08-2009, 12:22 PM
This episode began TOO well. “After you ambushed me in my barn” My, my, my, the boy is bold! :D
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Tess: “...maybe it’s because you’re actually afraid to find <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/ /><st1:City alt=</st1:City>Davis</ST1:p...” Uh, did she just call him chicken? Just wondering. :confused:<O:p</O:p
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Mysteriously, at the exact moment where there was nothing else to be said in this scene, <ST1:pClark</ST1:p’s superhearing kicks in. :rolleyes: Is that Chloe? Oh my god, that’s CHLOE!!
GO! GO! GO!
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Dark forest with tall, slim trees and misty, wet ground. Where are we, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><ST1:pGermany</ST1:p</st1:country-region>?! I swear I’ve seen this forest in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><ST1:pGermany</ST1:p</st1:country-region>. Sidenote: Once again, I tell anyone willing to listen; Allison Mack would be mindblowing in a thriller! Somebody, please, send her a decent script! <O:p</O:p
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What is she running from? DD? Why? What happened? So many questions, so little time. LOOK OUT! :eek: Truck coming towards her, headlights blinding her (and us, in the process). Yes, Chloe, THIS would be an excellent time to MOVE!! He got her. They hug. Oh, the bliss of reunion!<O:p</O:p
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Oh! OH! *claps hands in excitement* It’s Plastique! And Whatshisface in the background! And ... some ... other guy I don’t know and I’m not sure I wanna find out. “He’s found her. Now it’s time to make our move” YES! Yes, please, go ahead!<O:p</O:p
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The opening credits roll as I sit up in my seat. Oh, I am getting a good vibe from this episode!<O:p</O:p
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The farm. He’s making her tea and he’s dressed impeccably! “We really should get you to the hospital, Chloe” Hmm, let’s see. On the one hand, I go to the hospital where I have a bunch of strangers scanning me and on the OTHER hand, I get to spend a night alone at a farm with YOU (aka the god) making me tea and taking care of me, all the time staring at me with those puppy dog eyes. Yeah, it’s a REALLY tough decision to make! <O:p</O:p
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The sound of the cup scared her out of her wits! SHE IS MAGNIFICENT! Excellent way of keeping in character.<O:p</O:p
Whoa, hold on. “This motel just outside Metropolis” Wow, you went REALLY far in your effort to hide. No wonder he could never find you! :rolleyes:<O:p</O:p
I’m sorry; this whole monologue doesn’t make sense. Chloe KNEW what she getting herself into. “He wouldn’t let me leave” – That was kinda the point of you staying together. Forever - which, in your terms, must not mean very long, I gather, since A) You stuck with <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDavis</ST1:p</st1:City> for 7 television days. B) You vowed to Jimmy you’d love him forever – and we all know how that ended. So, yeah, forever is a foreign concept for Chloe Sullivan.<O:p</O:p
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“No one’s safe. Not till you destroy that beast” – Does ANYBODY sense a recurrence in the theme?! No? Nobody? They keep coming at him from different directions! And now I am expecting Oliver to walk through the door and yell at the top of his lungs “She’s right! Kill him!” And then Lois can send him an email “I know I’m not supposed to have a clue about anything that’s been happening this entire season, but kill Davis Bloome!” Hell, let’s bring Lana back to ask him to kill the beast! (Note to self: I DID NOT just say that! Did I? I may have to ask my psychiatrist to write me a new prescription if I did. Damn! All that Lana-therapy just went shooting down the drain);) <O:p</O:p
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Oh, well, it turns out, I’m not gonna have to know who that guy was, cause, he’s conveniently dead. So, from that ‘team spirit’ speech, I gather Tess is something equivalent to a dark Professor X for these guys? Neutron! There you go, that guy was Neutron. Good riddance, I say!<O:p</O:p
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“<st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDavis</ST1:p</st1:City> might not be as invincible as we thought. There is something that might work” *crosses fingers* Please don’t say talking. Please don’t say talking. <O:p</O:p
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He... he said something worse. Lex Luthor? Helen. Is. Not. Following. :confused:<O:p</O:p
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OOOHHH! Black Kryptonite. This could possibly be the best idea <ST1:pClark</ST1:p has had in the past 8 years. Not to mention, it’s my sexy word for the night. It just rolls off his tongue, in a magical way. <O:p</O:p
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“I knew I could count on you”<O:p</O:p
“That’s never gonna change”<O:p</O:p
Aawwww... buddy time. And to quote Dean Winchester, “Are we gonna have to hug now?” :lol:<O:p</O:p
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“We need to kill <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDavis </ST1:p</st1:City>Bloome” AAAAAAA!!!!!<O:p</O:p
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HA! He manipulated Oliver! “Sometimes Justice is not about making the easy decision” and just like that, Goodbye Clark <ST1:p<st1:country-region w:st="on">Kent</st1:country-region></ST1:p, HELLO, SUPERMAN!:D<O:p</O:p
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Tess BLEW Livewire UP? She BLEW her UP?!! The immature child in me is jumping up and down, shouting “AWESOME!” at the moment!! She was controlling them like they’re supermarket products! They have BARCODES on their necks!!!!!
You can't just BLOW Livewire UP! She's Livewire, for crying out loud! She has a history, a future! She has a kick-ass power!<O:p</O:p
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“Just outside” Chloe? *raises eyebrow skeptically* It’s never just outside, you know...<O:p</O:p
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“Affairs of the heart” Am I the only who cringed at those words?<O:p</O:p
I don’t like where this is going. No, sir, I don’t like this one bit.:(<O:p</O:p
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You know, Chloe, for someone who just stepped outside, you seem to know exactly where you’re going... Wait a minute. Did she just say “Bet?!”<O:p
Yep. She said “Bet” alright. “US” ???!!! “Us!!” She called them US? Tess has...done...things...for Chloe???? Black Creek? *Sigh* This is getting out of hand.<O:p
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Oliver brought Tess a 1964 wine. NICE! Did I hear anyone say “I’m trying to get into your pants and steal Black Kryptonite from you when you’re not looking?!”<O:p</O:p
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“There’s little that doesn’t turn you on” POW! And I just LOVE Justin Hartley’s face after that comment.<O:p</O:p
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“I remember when the only sheets that separated us were silk” Approaching the line of corny, but still sticking to the sexy, coming-on-strong side of the line. *Excuse me, waitress, can I get a fan in here?! I appreciate it*
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“I still wanna save the planet...It’s just some of the people that I could do without” ROFL!!!! I officially ADORE Tess Mercer. *raises hands in defeat* <O:p</O:p
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LOL, ROFL, LMAO and every other acronym you can think of! “Keep the cork in your pants” OH MY GOD! I love that woman. I love Justin Hartley. I love the writers, I love the world.<O:p</O:p
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He got a fingerprint off the bottle?! I gotta get myself one of those gadgets! And it’s green! *sigh, drool* DREAMY!<O:p</O:p
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I like this <ST1:pClark</ST1:p. Very, very much. He’s confronting everyone with style, no-bull talk and straight-to-the-point attitude. He’s taking matters into his own hands for a change and I like it. Thumbs up, <ST1:pClark</ST1:p! Keep going!<O:p</O:p
“Tell me what’s happening” SHE’S HAVING A FREAKING STROKE, THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING!! Ooh, the bleeding eye is a nice touch! Aaahhh...she’s NOT Chloe? Chloe is still with DD? WTF?! Where’s Chloe?!!<O:p</O:p
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NOOOOO!!! The Parasite took his powers away! He took his...he just up and went... Argh, this is messed up!<O:p</O:p
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oliver stole the Black-K and undressed himself in lightning speed to throw Tess off. This is brilliant!!! Did you catch Tess’ face when he stood up? “Where the hell are your pants?!” I love their interaction. “There was tension, but it wasn’t sexual” HAHAHA.<O:p</O:p
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WHAT IN THE 52 UNIVERSES!! They just blasted themselves in her bedroom! And they keep talking about revenge! Um, HELLO! There’s a naked dude lying on the floor! Anyone?! If it were me, I’d go “Holy chocolate starfish...WTF?!” Uuh, if Parasite punched Tess with <ST1:pClark</ST1:p’s strength, shouldn't Tess be, I dunno, orbiting the moon, right about now?!<O:p</O:p
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WHOA!! A black Lamborghini? This is SO Batman. (Again, the immature child in me yells “COOL!” and I choose to ignore it)<O:p</O:p
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Okay, despite my bias in favour of Cassidy Freeman, I have to admit, that electroshock COULD and SHOULD have been played out better. Was that really the best shot they had in that scene? Tom Welling is the master of facial expressions of pain. She should take a leaf out of his book. And when Plastique says “You’re the one who betrayed us!” exactly WHERE is she looking? Isn’t she supposed to hover above Tess’ ear and maliciously hiss that line? <O:p</O:p
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WOW! Oliver has a Kryptonite ring? It’s like he’s Smallville’s Batman or something... Or something. Oh, and I liked that he saved Tess... that slow motion thing was a good choice at that moment.<O:p</O:p
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AWESOME confrontation between Clark and Oliver. No more comment.
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Another Tess-Clark scene, we seem to be getting these a lot lately. I wonder what Lois would think if she were here... She destroyed the crystal?! Lady, this is personal ALIEN property! I don’t believe she destroyed it! She must have taken it. She truly believes? Has she joined a cult? *snicker* <O:p</O:p
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What’s with the orb? What’s happen--?<O:p</O:p
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K-KANDOR?! As in... Kandor, Kandor? THE Kandor? *sits back, in awe* Kandor. Wow. *speechlessly opens and shuts mouth for an entire minute* Kandor. :eek:<O:p</O:p
Wow. I did NOT see THAT coming. <O:p</O:p
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Comment on direction. I am not just saying this, because it’s Tom Welling, but the guy is getting better with every episode! I thought it was a splendid work, minus the part where Tess was held captive by the Injustice Leaguers, where a few things could have been done better. (See above reference)<O:p</O:p
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TW was perfect, considering he had to direct this episode, on top of holding the major role. A real Superman with impeccable style and attire and lovely, lovely powerful acting. AM was dead on the money –considering that she wasn’t really Chloe per say, but a shapeshifter impersonating her. CF was wonderful - magnificent if I may say so - except for that electrocution scene, where she was just off. She just didn’t get it right, but no matter, she made up for it in tons. JH was hot. Seriously, he was hot. Charming, disarming and whatever else you wanna call him along those lines. I liked the Injustice leaguers performance; they were extremely good and very much into the role. Especially the girl who played Livewire, when she lashed out on Tess, she nailed it. It was upsetting that they changed the mythos of Livewire and Parasite completely, but this is Smallville, afterall.
I actually enjoyed this episode. I give it a 9.<O:p</O:p
Mars Investigations
05-08-2009, 12:31 PM
Loved it. Yet another awesome episode...the finale is going to be fantastic.
brihvp03
05-08-2009, 12:54 PM
I thought this was a great show. I was stoked that they maybe brining zod back in some way or form. I think tht kara might be making a surprise appearance in doomsday. I figured that clark will my using black K to beat doomsday. As for the deaths.... dont hold it on me but i have this weird feeling the impulse is doing to take a plunge. I can see him trying to be cocky runnign around doomsday and bamed dd grabs him by the throat and snap!. The other deat not to sure thinkn it will be tess or chloe
mimi1123
05-08-2009, 01:02 PM
This was a great episode with action and intrigue......Tom Welling did a wonderful job directing. I really liked the camera angles and the acting by all was excellent......We even got a cliffhanger before the cliffhanger of the finale. I'm really wondering about the orb and what it has to do with Tess and the future.....Even though the Injustice league was short lived, I have a feeling it isn't the last we have seen of them in Smallville.....I liked the fact that Clark was strong in his convictions even though everyone else was against him. I always enjoy a Clark heavy episode and it was good to see him in many of the scenes.....I hope Dr. Hamilton will be in more episodes as he makes a nice addition to the cast.....Clark and Oliver scenes are intense as their friendship keeps growing farther apart....This episode leaves us with questions but it wasn't intended to stand on it's own since it was a lead into "Doomsday" next week and season 9. I'm really looking forward to both....."Injustice" receives a 10 from a satisfied viewer.
I totally agree. Suspenseful, surprising, well-written, well-acted, and perfectly directed. I thought it was an 8.5, so I rounded up to 9.
SupaBoy
05-08-2009, 01:12 PM
I gave this episode a 7. Tom was great in directing and acting, but the story imo was just ok. I think it will take a second watch for me to fully appreciate it.
vyperman7
05-08-2009, 01:53 PM
I have to say that I hated this episode.
- The "Chloe-Double" angle was EXTREMELY predictable. I called it about 10 minutes in.
- Clark has just become really annoying and holier then thou. One thing I wish they would do is find a happy medium between making Clark seem more Superman like and making him a likeable, down-to-earth type of guy that makes Clark Kent such a great character. Clark may be more destiny oriented now, but he just isn't very likeable anymore. He always feels like he is up on a soap-box. The only time that Clark is really likeable anymore is in his scenes with Lois. Unfortunately, ED is in even less episodes this season.
- My biggest pet peeve had to be Parasite stealing Clark's powers. Parasite's ability specifically hones in on meteor powers. Clark is alien being from another planet, whose biological makeup is affected by Earth's yellow sun. Parasite doesn't have the ability to steal someone's physiology or their origins. This also applies to Parasite having a weakness to Kryptonite as well. Kryptonite is ONLY lethal to those who are from Krypton. This also bugged me in Asylum as well with Eric.
- I almost laughed out loud at the ending with Tess. Absolutely ridiculous. After the episode ended, I actually asked myself "What the hell has happened to this show?"
When this season started out, they had a very clear objective. Have Clark start accepting his destiny more, develop Clois at the DP, and effectively develop Doomsday in the background. The writing on the Chloe/Davis/Doomsday has been sub-par to say the least, Erica has been in even less episodes this season then she usually is, and while Clark may appear to be more destiny oriented, he is still an unlikeable, judgemental, dummy.
Definitely one of my least favorite episodes this season.
lm1212
05-08-2009, 02:09 PM
This episode was a bit weak compared to others, but, I'll give it a 6.
Fake Chloe being totally predictable -1
Tess' self righteousness and her craptastic team -1
Ollie and Clark's trust issues -1
Clark losing his powers, AGAIN. -1
Everything else was fine. Well, I can't think of anything else to complain about. Clark looked good in this episode, too. I enjoyed watching him. I want the new big three, with Lois and Jimbo. NOW! :)
costas22
05-08-2009, 02:34 PM
It will be interesting to see Cedric's review on this. An episode with Allison Mack but with no Chloe.
SupermanRox
05-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Loved this episode. I CANNOT believe that Tess blew up Livewire.
Tess: “...maybe it’s because you’re actually afraid to find <st1:city 0="" alt=" border="></st1:city>Davis:p...” Uh, did she just call him chicken? Just wonderingIn a word, YES.
The Parasite took his powers away! He took his...he just up and went... wayyyy messed up I agree.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oliver stole the Black-K and undressed himself in lightning speed to throw Tess off. This is brilliant!!! Did you catch Tess’ face when he stood up? “Where the hell are your pants?!” I love their interaction. “There was tension, but it wasn’t sexual” HAHAHA.<o>:p</o>:p
my fav part...so hot
superjude
05-08-2009, 03:18 PM
I am going to have to read the boards and re-watch the episode in order to figure out how I really felt about it. I had major family distractions and missed half the dialogue and was completely confused most of the time. Hopefully, I'll get to watch the episode again by Monday, but I am really wanting to figure it out by tomorrow. But, I can say that Tom was HOT and just plain AWESOME the whole time!!! And , I am starting to think that , that is really not OLiver!!He was completely Bizarre!
Oh YEah! and Tess is Toast!
rajman
05-08-2009, 03:23 PM
It was a 7/10 episode but only because i expected more, though there were some good parts, it was a good setup for the finale, which better be worth watching
e-µ-i
05-08-2009, 04:05 PM
This was an amazingly interesting episode for me, and I give it 9/10. I never give 10, so that's very high in my scale.
The action moments, Kandor, Doomsday twist, no crystal > CK must fight...Simply awesome. It would be great to have some Kryptonians from Kandor also, maybe in S9.
Overall, very nice change. I can't wait for the finale !
chloisfan
05-08-2009, 04:07 PM
I liked the story line, however I still found it a tad boring because there was no Lois nor Davis. I think you need either one or the other character to keep the show exciting.
justme_007
05-08-2009, 04:07 PM
An episode with Allison Mack but no chloe... i missed my favorite character.
Clark was heavy packed in this episode
HeroesUnlimited
05-08-2009, 05:03 PM
I'm not going to assign it a number, but I will say that I'm starting to get the distinct impression they're just killing time until the finale. We ALL know where this is going and frankly, we're just waiting for "it" to happen. Now that said, I am SUPER PUMPED for next week. There is going to be so much "meat" in next week's episode, I'll probably have to become a vegetarian this summer, lol. I thought the "Injustice League" idea was a good one, but poorly executed. I didn't care for the selection of members. I would have preferred to have seen a better membership. Like...
-The Angel of Vengeance (her methods are too extreme for the actual Justice League, but I'm sure Tess would have loved to have her);
-Mikhail Mixylptlk (his powers are back now, right?)
-Jed McNally (the dirt guy)
-Eric Summers (instead of Parasite or maybe AS parasite - the characters are too similar. No need for two. And a scene with Eric Summers and Jimmy Olsen together would have been PRICELESS);
I think the only one I would have kept would be Plastique because of her history with Tess. The other members just seemed manufactured for the purposes of this episode.
Some other random thoughts:
-It took me almost the ENTIRE episode to realize Chloe wasn't actually in it, lol. I must be over tired from my job I guess. Even after I KNEW she was being impersonated, I STILL didn't realize she was being impersonated for the entire episode. I thought maybe she "took over" for Chloe in the warehouse scene when Clark was there with Dr. Hamilton.
-I liked the ending. More to the point, I just love the orb as a prop. It's so cool. I'm not entirely sure what direction they're going with it (although I'd like to see them use it against Doomsday, if possible). Kandor? Is Kara connected to all of this? Did she find Kandor? Is Kandor maybe trapped in the Phantom Zone (and that's why they don't want Doomsday sent there?) It is supposed to be a city in a bottle (according to mythos). Should be interesting to see how they explain that.
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Oh and another "beef" I had with the episode. The members (of the Injustice League) were WAAAAAY too easy to kill off.
disciples of zod
05-08-2009, 05:06 PM
COME ON, Tom Welling!!! You can do so much better than that!
The redundant "kill Davis" plot just got really old really fast. At first I was annoyed at Chloe, but...it wasn't really her, so now I'm not mad anymore. The Ollie/Tess stuff was cute! But other than that...BLEH!!!
Bad. Not good at all. I'm giving it a 5.
~H
1000 POSTS!!! w00t!
HeroesUnlimited
05-08-2009, 05:08 PM
I think the guy who played Parasite was in Freddy vs Jason.
It was. It took me awhile to place him. I actually though he had been on Smallville in another role, until I remembered Freddy vs. Jason.
disciples of zod
05-08-2009, 05:09 PM
It was ok but that last scene confused the heck out of me.
me too!! I was like, WHAT, for the following five minutes after the ep was over!
~H
HeroesUnlimited
05-08-2009, 05:10 PM
but what made this epi for me had to be the fact that Tom dirrected it.Great Job Directing, TOM!
Would you have liked it as much if you didn't know he directed it? I pay almost no attention to that stuff. I rate an episode on its own merits, not on who directed (or wrote it).
alejandrita439
05-08-2009, 05:11 PM
i think this episode was awesome :D
gave it a 10 :)
HeroesUnlimited
05-08-2009, 05:14 PM
I don't really care about the Tess/oliver ship.
I'm not a "ship" person or a "Teliver" fan (lol), but I thought their interactions may have been THE BEST part of that episode. Oliver's pursuit of Tess was CLASSIC STUFF. Now, I KNOW he was just doing it as a means to an end, but some of the lines and the situations were hysterical, ESPECIALLY when he slips past security as Green Arrow and ends up completely naked in her bed. I laughed out loud at that I never do that. :lol:
bigblueplanet
05-08-2009, 05:16 PM
If I had to rate this right now, it would be a 3 (or lower). At this time, all I can say is it was better than Power and Requiem. But, that's not saying much.
I'm going to wait until after Doomsday. Maybe that will allow me to see this episode in a better light.
This is exactly how I feel right now. I really don’t know how to rate this episode. (It never happened to me before.) I felt like something was not right and I still don’t know what is.
I’ll have to re-watch it again. But I’m not crazy about the talking orb and Kandor mention because I thought the direction they seem like they wanna go from now on is WAY out of their league. If they really want to do this, then, these show runners better get a guiding hand from the comic writers. JMO
I might change my mind after I watch the season finale. I hope so. I'll see.
HeroesUnlimited
05-08-2009, 05:17 PM
having parasite strip clark of his powers when in the comics/animated series he didn't strip him of his powers just shared his powers temporarily he would continuously have to zap superman to have his powers but superman was never stripped of them
so now humans can just strip crystals from the console and destroy them to? i thought kryptonian technology was beyond humans but i guess not!
Excellent points. I was thinking the same thing. They do seem to be taking certain liberties with material that has already been established.
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Geez, an episode this off the track makes me long for the days of Lana and her witch. It's pretty clear the writers are just pulling stuff out of the comics and throwing it out there for the sake of appealing to the comic book fanbase. But it is soooooo poorly done lol. The randomness is frighteningly bad. And who's responsible for all these horrible hero speech sermons.
Clark: If there's any good in this bacon and cheese sandwich Oliver, i'll find it.
Oliver: Put your ego aside Clark, just do what needs to be done.
Clark: I won't eat this sandwich. If i do that, then I'm no better than the sandwich.
Oliver: Look Clark, sometimes we have to make hard choices. And those choices can't be taken lightly because others will get hurt.
Clark: I may have all this power but it doesn't give me the right to decide who lives and dies.
Oliver: Eat the pig and cheese Clark! Im on your side. Im not the enemy.
Clark: Then who are you?
Oliver: Im the pig's father.
Clark: What?
Oliver: I mean, Im ...Candor?
Oh for %@#$@ sake.
Good stuff Jay:D
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I can't believe half of the second to last episode was devoted to Oliver trying to get Tess in bed
You do realize that was just a means to an end, right?
marcella
05-08-2009, 05:23 PM
7/10
I liked some moments and TW directing, but the dialogue sucked sometimes and I didn't like Plastique at all
HeroesUnlimited
05-08-2009, 05:26 PM
I wonder if they'll ever let us know what Chloe was up to while Davis killed that guy. And why she and Davis haven't made it any farther from Metropolis than Grandville. The convo in the Teaser made it sound like it'd been days since they left.
JWM - I LOVE the avatar. The Question is a very cool character that doesn't get talked about nearly enough. BTW, have you read "DC Universe: Helltown" (a novel). It's ALL about the Question. I love that book. You should pick it up if you haven't already.
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I put my ear right to the speaker to hear the Jor-El--like Voice speaking. "Did you destroy the crystal?" Tess did.
"So, you will be the savior of Kandor." was the final line. I swear.
I looked Kandor up on google. I actually searched Gandor And Superman and was asked if I meant Kandor. Then I found the various histories of the capital city of Krypton according to many different timelines in comics, etc... Is Kandor was shrunken and put in a bottle by Brainiac? Is Kara's mind entertained by this copy put into her ship as she traveled to Earth? A shrunken city, once the capital of Krypton is a common thread to everything I read. I wonder how that will play into the next two seasons.
Eight of Nine.
That didn't sound like Jor-el. I don't think it was.
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Not if she's still with Dooms and Dooms killed the Injustice guy (Neutron?) in Grandville.
You think maybe she wasn't Chloe in Beast either?
VERY intersting. I hadn't thought of that.
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I have to say that I hated this episode.
- The "Chloe-Double" angle was EXTREMELY predictable. I called it about 10 minutes in.
- Clark has just become really annoying and holier then thou. One thing I wish they would do is find a happy medium between making Clark seem more Superman like and making him a likeable, down-to-earth type of guy that makes Clark Kent such a great character. Clark may be more destiny oriented now, but he just isn't very likeable anymore. He always feels like he is up on a soap-box. The only time that Clark is really likeable anymore is in his scenes with Lois. Unfortunately, ED is in even less episodes this season.
- My biggest pet peeve had to be Parasite stealing Clark's powers. Parasite's ability specifically hones in on meteor powers. Clark is alien being from another planet, whose biological makeup is affected by Earth's yellow sun. Parasite doesn't have the ability to steal someone's physiology or their origins. This also applies to Parasite having a weakness to Kryptonite as well. Kryptonite is ONLY lethal to those who are from Krypton. This also bugged me in Asylum as well with Eric.
- I almost laughed out loud at the ending with Tess. Absolutely ridiculous. After the episode ended, I actually asked myself "What the hell has happened to this show?"
When this season started out, they had a very clear objective. Have Clark start accepting his destiny more, develop Clois at the DP, and effectively develop Doomsday in the background. The writing on the Chloe/Davis/Doomsday has been sub-par to say the least, Erica has been in even less episodes this season then she usually is, and while Clark may appear to be more destiny oriented, he is still an unlikeable, judgemental, dummy.
Definitely one of my least favorite episodes this season.
How do you REALLY feel? lol
NoSupeForYou
05-08-2009, 06:11 PM
I gave it a 4. It was just there and I don't feel anything about it. It's usually a bad sign when you have nothing to say, right?
THEcrownsMINE
05-08-2009, 06:12 PM
8. This episode was pretty good but just a little "forced", I guess. The Injustice League kinda needed some acting lessons, but they didn't bug me too much. The main thing bugging me about this episode is that it didn't spark too much interest for the finale. Lol and I didn't understand the ending with Tess, that also bugged me! :)
meteorfreak219
05-08-2009, 07:02 PM
it was good i could never think anything bad about this show. chloe breaks my heart. <3
BWOracle
05-08-2009, 07:28 PM
I gave the episode a 7...sort of middle of the road.
Love the Lambo Gallardo...pretty close to the speed of a bullet.
2 problems I had were, first, that of all the Injustice League members, Bette was the most outstanding. That should tell you how weak the Injustice League came across.
The second was when Tess and the Orb had their little conversation, it was very hard to understand just because the dialog was so muffled. Hey, sound guys take the cotton out of your ears...or is that ours. Even with the volume cranked up, it was barely legible.
And for those who thought Oliver was a little too sexually aggressive with Tess...the only reason he did that was as a cover for what he was doing to Clark.
The first was to get her thumb print to get into her vault.
The second was to cover for the Green Arrow breaking into her safe. He may have thought that these constant attacks by GA on Tess would clue Tess into the fact that he was Green Arrow.
Copyguy
05-08-2009, 07:55 PM
Not if she's still with Dooms and Dooms killed the Injustice guy (Neutron?) in Grandville.
You think maybe she wasn't Chloe in Beast either?
I thought she was Brainiac in that episode, trying to get things going between them. We still have an infected fortress (hoping they won't forget). And if ROKK from the future talks about Chloe not being in the future (see spoilers posted 5-8) then Season 9 will be Clark trying to seperate them, and not just kill her/it. Brainiac might put Doom away for a bit to play with Clark some more. Does this belong in speculation? Am I crazy?
Copyguy
tibbit78
05-08-2009, 08:54 PM
I gave the episode a 7...sort of middle of the road.
Love the Lambo Gallardo...pretty close to the speed of a bullet.
2 problems I had were, first, that of all the Injustice League members, Bette was the most outstanding. That should tell you how weak the Injustice League came across.
The second was when Tess and the Orb had their little conversation, it was very hard to understand just because the dialog was so muffled. Hey, sound guys take the cotton out of your ears...or is that ours. Even with the volume cranked up, it was barely legible.
And for those who thought Oliver was a little too sexually aggressive with Tess...the only reason he did that was as a cover for what he was doing to Clark.
The first was to get her thumb print to get into her vault.
The second was to cover for the Green Arrow breaking into her safe. He may have thought that these constant attacks by GA on Tess would clue Tess into the fact that he was Green Arrow.
Whenever I watch Smallville, I watch it with closed-captions, because some of the actors mumble their words. I find it is easier for me to watch Smallville using closed-captions, so I can read the script/words, and then I understand the show a whole lot better.
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I liked the Clark & Oliver Queen parts. What Clark said to Oliver Queen I liked is this:
Clark (to Oliver Queen): My responisbility is to do what's right. Like it or not, we stand for something. We set an example for others to follow. And if we don't, we're no better than the people we fight.
And I liked the Tess Mercer & Clark Kent scenes. I especially liked the lines that Clark & Tess said. These are my favorites:
Clark (to Tess Mercer): You're so delusional, you put together a small army to make some fictional prophecy come true.
Tess Mercer (to Clark): Clark, the mark of a true hero is someone who's willing to sacrifice his own personal morality to help keep the world safe.
Clark: No one has the right to choose who lives and who dies. I was beginning to think you were different from Lex. I was wrong.
Tess: I understand that if everyone was more like you, the world would be a better place.
(This was the best part of Injustice. These lines & quotes). Otherwise, it was kind-of boring to watch, if it weren't for these lines.
Promise
05-08-2009, 10:31 PM
After the episode ended, I actually asked myself "What the hell has happened to this show?"
Now you know how I felt when I saw Stilletto. I didn't say hell though.
jim mayniam
05-08-2009, 11:24 PM
i gave it a ten but probably shouldn't have. i just watched it again so i guess i'm trying to preempt buyer's remorse :P
i'm very happy with the show trying to stretch the limits of its demographic. clark lied twice; both outstanding plays on CK's part. oliver queen is spot on (and right), tess deftly fulfilled her "lex with a heart of gold" angle (and was right) and the "injustice gang" was passable (besides plastiques monotonous delivery).
one of the great things about this episode is i didn't miss any of the characters that didn't appear. i can usually harp on that.
it was a superb set up for, what is sure to be, an outstanding finale.
i'm a big fan of episodic television and of the superman mythos; compromises are my friend. i haven't had this much fun with clark kent since rereading all-star.
i have high hopes for season 9
ETA: oliver's scenes with tess were also handled quite well. it appears that fox crane can still bring the soap.
jayj101
05-08-2009, 11:37 PM
I did not mind the episode but Parasite was a Janitor in the Comic Books (Parasite didn't know that Superman was Clark Kent until he took his powers.) and Livewire was introduced to the a Superman Cartoon some time ago and then was written in the Comic Books. Smallville is getting on my nerves. They want to keep the mythos as close as possible then do it. The ending was odd to me too, the orb that suppedly holds the city of Kandor.talking to Tess!...Now that confused me too. I know it's the same orb that Lex used in Artic to control Clark but really it saved his butt. We all know the Lord Zod, General Zod, Russian Zod, and many other names is somehow coming back to season nine. Is he going to take over someones body again or that Sam guy going to to grow a gotee and play Zod? I have no idea, but interesting. "Kneel Before Zod." Great we will be hearing that in a few months. Ha ha! Hopefully it's a tease or something.
skully
05-09-2009, 12:34 AM
I like it.
Nice build up to the Finale.
Some good freak v Clark and Ollie stuff. And heaps of reinforcement of the famous Superman ethic, even in the face of demands by Ollie, Tess and "Chloe" to kill Doomsday.
Kudos to all those who called "Chloe" as a fake, even based on the trailer. Great performance from AM.
Fine epi by Justin Hartley as he swung from dark and almost a bit evil to flirty and hilarious and back again e.g. Parasite's abilities. Intense epi from Cassidy Freeman as she also swung wildly from apparently evil to good and back to evil.
TW must have had a tough job with plenty of screen time and directing responsibilities, but he pulled it off.
Plenty of almost comic book, short, sharp, almost corny dialogue which many seemed to hate but I didn't mind. Good efforts from guests Plastique and Parasite as well.
And I never let myself get to bent out of shape regarding mythos characters being portrayed differently to the comics. This is the Smallville version of the early days of Superman. It obviously spoils things for many fans though. [shrugs]
And the expanding orb with the "savior of Kandor" line at the end was downright intriguing.
A solid 8.5.
GENERALzod777
05-09-2009, 02:22 AM
My guess is the voice is Zod. Mostly because the Zod symbol was in the Doomsday trailer. Plus if the crystal is destroyed then Clark can't send him back to the PZ.
La Donna
05-09-2009, 02:23 AM
If I find an episode to be really great (Committed, Prey, Identity, Bloodline, Hex), I can't wait to write a review. If I find an episode horrible (Power, Requiem, parts of Eternal), I can't wait to write a review. With Injustice, I don't have a burning desire to really review this one. It wasn't bad, and there were some great parts. But, it wasn't excellent, and there were some parts that really lacked. However, I will forge ahead and give it my all:)
I was going to put a long post warning at the top again, but I've discovered that I'm a bit infamous because of my long posts, so I'm assuming that my name being at the top of this post is warning enough for those who want to skip the long ones;).
There are a few things I'd like to mention before the episode review:
Chloe's arc is very controversial and is creating a situation where many are turning against her character. I agree with others that have said that Lana being gone has created a hole in how the writer's operate. It always made me sad for the character of Lana to be used and abused in such a way by the writers. She was good, she was bad, she was innocent, she was guilty, she loved Clark, she loved Lex, she knew nothing about aliens, she knew everything about aliens, etc. etc. etc. She was steady the first few seasons, and then they decided that Chloe would be the character to get all the exposition, and Lana would be the character to fill any void in the drama, no matter how her character appeared to the audience.
When she left, they needed to fill that void. They had two choices: Bring the writing up to a new level where character's did not have to act in an OOC manner and didn't need to become plot devices, or they could find another character to fill that role. Unfortunately Chloe got the role (and all I can do is hope to God that Lois isn't in that position next season). So, this season creates an arc that uses Chloe more than she's ever been used before (which is good for AM and folks who wanted to see more of her), but it's been alienating to a portion of the audience who enjoyed Chloe's character in the past but have been turned off by behavior they see as OOC.
Some fairly large examples of her OOC behavior would be telling Clark he can no longer be the RBB in Turbulence (even though I feel she was doing it out of fear for Clark, it was still out of the blue), killing Sebastian (which could be Brainiac's influence, but it was never clear), losing the computer in Stiletto (a person with Chloe's experience would never have been so careless even under such stress), threatening the Dr. in Beast (which was the most Lana-esque thing I have ever seen Chloe do), and a few other events this season. This very thing used to happen to Lana. There were times that you could tune into Smallville and have no idea which Lana you were going to get. What ends up happening with these arcs is usually an "out of sight, out of mind" mentality that the show is plagued by. The arc screws with a character, and then when it's no longer needed, they forget it ever happened.
I would bet anyone that if Chloe survives (which I think she will) and is a regular next season (which I also think she will), she is going to be considered within the show as a good guy, a hero, a trusted friend, and she'll be filling the role as Watchtower. While this may seem crazy to some, that is the consistent pattern of this show. Clark seems to be one of the few people who is forced to face lasting consequences because of his own actions or other people's actions. Lana never did, Chloe won't. It's not that I think Chloe won't deserve to be Clark's best friend and Watchtower, because I actually think she does and that what she's done has been for the greater good, but why on Earth would they show her kill Sebastian and give signs that she may have put Davis's safety above everyone else's if they wanted the entire audience to see Chloe as a hero next season? These are just bad choices by the writers who don't seem to keep the big picture in mind.
The only consequences Chloe will end up facing are those that happened to her this season (feeling lonely and alienated in season 8, being endlessly stressed out from mid-season till the end of season 8, the break-up of her marriage, and of course whatever happens to her in the finale). After the Requiem scene with Ollie and Chloe, I thought their relationship had to have changed. Ollie knew that Chloe killed Sebastian, and Chloe knew that Ollie killed Lex. Ollie basically threatened Chloe with that. Then, come Hex, Ollie is at her birthday party trying to make her feel better and at the end of the episode he's giving her a permanent role as the Watchtower. This is how Smallville works. This is how I think it will work again come the end of the season.
Just as Lana coming off to a lot of us as power hungry was meant to be a victim's quest for self-reliance, and Lois's Stiletto arc was meant to be an adventure of a young iconic Lois Lane learning a lesson despite some in the audience feeling that it was over the line ethically, and Chloe's entire Davis arc for the end of the season ends up being meant as her desperate means to protect Clark and save Davis from becoming Doomsday despite the danger to herself even though a chunk of the audience may deem her actions as selfish, idiotic, or obsessive.
I'm mentioning this based on what happened over the past week after Beast aired. While I think Chloe's arc has added depth to her journey, they have also used it as a plot device. There is no denying that Chloe has lost some fans. I really blame the writers for their lack of creativity. They have a hard time maintaining a line between tension and empty drama. My hope is that if next season has Chloe, this arc will be a thing of the past and Chloe won't be a victim of the writers. Although, that solution is really only the best of two evils: Either we get plot holes and a lack of continuity, or we get a character who continues to suffer from mixed writing.
I absolutely think Chloe is trying to save Clark and save the world. But, I also think that the things she's doing aren't necessarily the only options she had available and I wish that with some of the choices she would have chosen differently. But, with the showrunner's quote that Chloe is doing the right thing and what Clark has said in Injustice, I think that what Chloe did is considered the right thing and a sacrifice to save the world.
The big problem here is that on this show doing what's right doesn't always turn out that way, and sometimes creates really negative consequences. It's happened to Clark and will be the basis of his season nine arc if the showrunners are to be believed. They've said it's Clark's fault that Doomsday is unleashed, and the bad things that happen in the finale will be Clark's fault, leading to him having to deal with these consequences of his choices throughout season 9. It's a horrible thing to do to Clark. I said it a few days ago on a different thread, but I'll say it again, Clark is damned if you do and damned if you don't.
We know now that the Legion believes that Clark doing the right thing by finding another way to get rid of Brainiac in the Legion episode in order to save a life ended up changing the timeline, resulting in the deaths of several people and even Clark himself. The message then is that this Supermanly trait, that of finding another way to solve problems in order to save lives, is in fact the wrong way. When the Legion left at the end of the Legion episode, they were going to carry Clark's message with them to the future, that they should always try to find another way. But apparently doing the right thing didn't pay off well for the future and there is no Superman.
And now, it's the same with Chloe. They say that she is doing the right thing, but then we also hear that every choice Chloe made has resulted in Clark's death and a huge change to the timeline. So, Chloe did the right thing and made things worse, and Clark did the right thing and made things worse.
The only way they can salvage this is if they prove next season that doing the right thing is truly the best option, and that by doing the right thing once they have this information that things changed, they can set things right again. Otherwise the essence of Superman is truly lost, and the message will be that doing the right thing is sometimes not what's best for the world.
I wanted to put this out there before the review because it's where I was at prior to Injustice, and so I wanted you guys to know that before I reviewed the episode. It just so happens that I have the same opinion now as I did before Injustice.
Also, this show needs to explain why Martha is gone from these huge events in Clark's life, and where Jimmy and Lois are while this is going on. It's too huge a situation to not explain why Lois isn't involved when her cousin is being hunted by the police because she's with a serial killer, and what Jimmy's doing when he vowed at the end of the last episode to find Davis. It's a big gaping hole that needs to be addressed, and hopefully will be taken care of next season during episodes that cast members are gone.
On to the show.....
Tess's Office of Diabolical Planning:
When the first scene started, it took me a minute to really get into the dialogue. I was too busy looking at Tom. He looked different this time, and I couldn't pinpoint why. Finally, I realized how lean Tom looked. I don't know if it was the clothes or Tom, but he looked very fit and lean in that suit.
It is funny that some of the dialogue this season seems to have come directly from the message boards online. Who's to say whether they intentionally wanted to address questions or thoughts that the fans had expressed on the message boards, or the writers simply realize the questions that they themselves created in prior episodes and wanted to address them. When Clark said "Alien Jesus", I couldn't stop laughing. I was thinking back to all of the discussion after Eternal aired. That is exactly what Tess did, assuming Clark is the hero and making him out to be an Alien version of Jesus. I hated the reference then, but at least the show mocked the idea just a bit that there is a direct correlation between Jesus and Clark.
In this scene, Tess came off as quite Lex-like. She openly said that she has no problem killing people or allowing the killing of others to happen if it's for the greater good. That's Lex's viewpoint, and now it is Tess's viewpoint. Clark wanted the manhunt stopped, and I like his argument. He basically said that if Tess is right and Davis really is a beast and that only Clark will be able to defeat him, then setting up the police to confront him is a reckless idea that will cost lives. His other point was that Tess has accepted that Chloe has chosen to be with Davis and that her death is of no consequence, while Clark said he would never agree with that. I really enjoyed Clark in this scene. It reminded me of some of his Lex scenes from earlier in the series. He came off as intelligent, and someone who wasn't fooled into silence. When Clark said that people will die because of what she's set into motion, Tess began a slow smile. To me, that's the final note on the role Tess will play in the finale. She's now officially on Clark's list of those who can't be a part of the solution, as far as Clark's concerned.
After Tess turns around, we get Clark's super-hearing kicked into gear by Chloe's voice. I had mixed feelings about this. I was sure that the Chloe in Injustice was either a fake Chloe or a Chloe under the influence of someone else. When Clark heard her voice, from miles and miles away, I first felt that it was awesome. I love Clark using his powers, so that rocked. I also love his friendship/family type relationship with Chloe, so I loved that it was again brought up that her voice could trigger his hearing. But, on the other hand, it also annoyed me after a minute or two, because there seems to be little consistency in how his hearing is triggered. Does Chloe have to be saying Clark's name when she's in danger, or is it simply her voice crying out for help? What about his mother's voice? Or Lana's voice? Or his father's voice? Or Pete's voice? Or now Lois's voice? I think they need to give us a reason that Chloe's voice has triggered Clark's super-hearing.
Spooky Woods:
I enjoyed the running through the woods and Clark's rescue of Chloe. But, if the whole thing was an act by the league to get Clark to rescue this "Chloe", then why were they certain that Chloe calling out for Clark, in the middle of the woods, would trigger his super-hearing? And, why did the fake Chloe stop in front of a truck, and look too scared to move? Was it real that the fake Chloe didn't mean to cross in front of a truck, and so she was truly too frightened to move, or was that part of the set-up? That's an awful lot to count on in Tess's masterplan.
The IL members then say that "He's found her, now it's time to make our move". If the plan was to make Clark fooled into thinking Chloe returned, and sending fake Chloe to force Clark into killing Davis and spying on Clark, then why did the other league members say that Tess wouldn't even tell them who the traveler is? If that was the case, then what did they think they were doing with Clark in the first place? I wonder if the writers notice these things or not.
The Warm and Loving Kent Living Room:
AM did an excellent job playing a fake Chloe. She looked scared, jumpy, and was biting her nails. It was clear that it wasn't Chloe, but not too over the top to distract from what was happening. They've really given AM and ED moments to shine this season. ED absolutely nailed the phantom and Chloe when she portrayed both this season, and AM has absolutely nailed Brainiac and now a fake Chloe. They really are amazing actresses.
Chloe said that Clark must destroy the Beast, and just one scene before this we have Tess saying that Davis isn't a man and that he is really just a Beast. It's too bad Clark didn't notice this word choice, because it could have saved him some time.
Dark and Scary Place:
I didn't mind this scene, besides a few obvious plot holes. I enjoyed that some of the meteor infected IL members were under the belief that Tess was on the good side and that they would be doing all of this to save the world. It reminded me of when Alias (my favorite show until the last two seasons) had Sydney and the others working for Sloan, and they believed they were working for the government fighting against the bad guys.
However, once the one member tried to leave, and she was immediately de-powered, I don't see how Bette would have taken that so easily. Before that moment, she did seem like someone who totally bought into Tess's lie, and if they were doing that for good, then why was Bette so accepting of her friend's power being taken from her, and parasite being so flippin' happy about doing it?
Luthorcorp, The Office to all Those With Mixed Objectives:
I enjoy Ollie at times, and I nearly always enjoy Clark. Sometimes, they really bring out the best in each other. This scene was well acted, but odd. Olliver said that Davis is a huge danger since beauty isn't there to calm the beast. If he really thought that, then why at the end of Beast was he so sure of Chloe being the villain, as he proclaimed to Chloe and then to Clark? He's acknowledging that Chloe's effect was indeed preventing Davis from transforming, which I'm assuming he learned from the basement scene in the talon in Beast. But after that basement scene, he classified Chloe as the bad guy. This statement seems to go against that, if he's acknowledging that Chloe was indeed keeping the Beast at bay. While I love acknowledgement that Chloe is not the villain, why would Ollie say that? It doesn't make sense.
We certainly see the motto that Ollie is living by right now in this scene. He feels that getting your hands dirty is sometimes the only option around. This isn't Clark's motto, thank God. I'm hoping that Olliver gets redeemed from that thought system before he either dies, leaves, or next season rolls around. I love hero Ollie, and I don't want dark Ollie. I was worried for a few minutes when Clark said he had to kill Davis, but luckily that wasn't what he was doing here.
Barn of Mysteries:
Why oh why oh why is Clark's hiding places the worst hiding places in the universe? Anyone? Any ideas? He has super powers, so he'd be able to hide things in ways that ensure that normal people can't find them, and even power enhanced people couldn't find them. But no, he goes to the floorboard safe or the toolbox secret chamber. He's had things taken from him before because he hid it in the barn, and yet, he continues to do so. Why? Is it really that hard to come up with a better hiding place?
I realize Chloe knows about most of Clark's supernatural possessions, but it seemed out of place a bit that when Clark revealed the crystal, Chloe knew exactly what it was and what it could be used for, and even anticipated Clark's intentions. The split idea is another good idea from Clark. I liked his PZ idea because I thought it was the only way last episode (as we had no reason to expect that he would find more black K). But, now he has black K and he has a way to save Davis, and get rid of Doomsday by sending the monster to the PZ.
This is a very Supermanly plan. If only this was a show that valued and rewarded positive behavior and creative plans that spare others lives, then Clark would have proven once again why he is going to be Superman. Unfortunately, we know that on this show, moral choices don't always have good consequences and that Clark is at fault for finding the best solution (since we know that the showrunners have already informed us that it's Clark's fault Doomsday is unleashed and he'll be dealing with the consequences of his mistakes from Doomsday throughout season 9).
Last episode, Chloe said that Clark taught her not to give up on people and to find another way besides killing. When Clark told fake Chloe that she taught him to find the last bit of good in someone and try to save them, I think he was just referring to what Chloe did in Beast. In this episode, Clark thinks that Chloe was correct in what she did by not letting Clark send Davis to the PZ, and so I think he's only talking about that episode. He's not saying that Chloe is always touting the mantra that you never give up on people. We already learned in Beast that Clark is the one who instilled that value in his friends. I heard some people say that having Clark mention to fake Chloe that she taught him that goes against what happened in Beast, but I actually think it happened because of that. Clark is only referring to Chloe's actions to stop Clark sending Davis to the PZ and telling him to find another way.
Return to the Dark and Scary Place:
Bone in the wall? Dang! Doomy is scary when he's mad. Fake Chloe looks very affected by the deaths, and interested in the discovery that they may have an implant. The Doctor also fills Clark in on Chloe's requests from last week.
When the Doctor tells Clark that Chloe called before desperate to cure Davis, I think Clark should have started to get annoyed that Chloe kept him in the dark about everything. While I think that Chloe was doing it to keep Clark far away from any danger, if I was Clark, I would be seriously annoyed that I was kept completely in the dark and not used as a resource for helping the situation. Clark's not Olliver, he wouldn't have just killed Davis on sight. And Chloe could have somehow gotten a message to Clark telling him to prepare for a battle should Doomsday emerge or see if he could have begun to search for a cure.
It reminds me of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoniex. Dumbledore keeps Harry in the dark throughout the book because he is afraid that Harry may be hurt and doesn't want to give this devastating news to Harry. But by doing that, it created a series of negative events. Harry went to the ministry because he was tricked, someone died because of that, people were hurt. Dumbledore thought he was doing what was best and protecting Harry, but it turned out to be a decision that lead to negative consequences. We learned that Chloe is right (by what Clark said about her trying to save Davis and preventing him from going to the PZ and from the show runner). But now we also know that Clark's decision to save Chloe resulted in a string of negative events because of choices that Chloe made. So, it's all Clark's fault for doing what he thought was right, and it's all Chloe's fault for doing what she thought was right.
As a viewer, I'm very frustrated with this dynamic becoming the standard for this show.
Fake Chloe sets a meeting with the other two IL, and tries to talk sense into them. All I could think is that those two are either very deficient mentally, or they are suffering from faults in their personality that are preventing them from seeing the truth. Parasite has a serious power issue. He seems to be just fine with violence and has a thirst for gaining more power. What Chloe's saying just doesn't matter that much to him either way, as he'd rather be working for a bad guy who lied to him about the implant and still get to keep his powers and use them against people than take the high road and potentially lose out on being able to use his powers as he is now. Bette is suffering from the naive assumption that a person who swoops in to save her must have her best interests at heart, and she just doesn't want to consider that what Chloe is saying is true.
Tess's Office (Where the Only Work that Gets Done is Mostly Evil Plotting):
This scene was so odd in this show. It reminded me of the scenes between those two in Committed. I was very surprised at the dialogue, and while I don't think it was inappropriate in general, it seemed odd shoved in to this episode. The silk sheet reference being between them was funny but went too far in a way. "Pop the cork" and "Keep it in your pants" was very risque for this show. I was a little shocked that the dialogue made it into an 8PM show that does have some younger viewers. I certainly like to be titillated, but the placement of the dialogue took away from it a bit. I was very relieved that he was doing all of that for fingerprints. Although, I'm assuming that if Tess had agreed to the "meeting", Olliver would have stayed and enjoyed himself.
Isis, Chloe's Homeland:
I liked Clark's line to fake Chloe that he has reasons not to trust Olliver, and now he fears that he'll have reasons not to trust Chloe. While I think his faith in Chloe is correct and she deserves it, he's had enough things happen that it's no wonder he would start to question whether he's right or not in trusting her. I would have liked to hear more about the IL at this point, but all I could think is how did fake Chloe know how to go to Isis, find the secret room, and log into and use the computers.
When fake Chloe died, I thought AM and TW pulled that off beautifully. Fake Chloe looked scared and hurt, Clark looked fearful that something was happening to his friend and he couldn't stop it. His voice when he thinks Chloe just died in his arms was perfect. I really like the scene. I am glad that he quickly learned that it wasn't the real Chloe and that he needed to get out of there and go warn Tess.
Clark also learns in this scene that Tess sent them after Davis and Chloe. Not just Davis, but Chloe too. I'm assuming that Tess must somehow be aware of the fact that if Chloe is around Davis, the beast won't emerge, and so her plan is to not only find Davis but remove Chloe from the equation.
When Clark is trying to talk sense into Bette, I wanted to slap the girl. She came off as insolent and ridiculous. That may be too harsh, but it's what I was thinking. Then we have the surprise power suck, that is oh so popular on Smallville. Besides the logistics of whether this would even work (with Parasite able to steal meteor powers but Clark's DNA making it completely different), why wasn't Clark aware that someone else was with them in that alley? Surely he could hear the guy approaching? I guess they are going with "he was so concerned with Bette that he wasn't paying attention".
Parasite just looked scary and out of control. I was really frightened for a number of people after that, like Clark getting pounded, Oliver getting hurt, Tess getting smacked into Metropolis.
Bedroom of Doom:
We learn that Bette and Parasite de-activated their implants, and Tess wants them found. Ollie, dolled up in Green Arrow gear, goes to steal the black K. Has the odd safe always been near or in that room? I didn't think so but I couldn't remember for sure. Anyways, Ollie hears Tess's voice and his mind kicks into overdrive, giving him a plan. He strips to his non-existent skivies and hops in the sheets. Now we know what it is he wears under that Green Arrow leather: A big fat nothing! While I like it in some respects, naughty as I am, it would be so insanely uncomfortable and it would really do a number on his soft spots. But, I guess that doesn't matter, it was just a treat to see Ollie naked again. I'm starting to think there really is a clause in his contract forcing him to show his chest a certain amount of times per season.
It's too bad Tess hadn't been on this show prior to this season, because they are really hinting at a very big past for Tess and Ollie, but we've seen so little of it. Whenever they talk we hear a reference to something that happened in their past, but it's of course not important enough for the show to actually present it. While I hate that so many other characters often get character development episodes when Clark sometimes doesn't even get character development in episode after episode, it just seems if they decided to give Ollie and Tess this huge past, they would have explained it a bit more. Since I'm sure Tess is a goner next week, it's just too bad that we got a few throw away lines about events from their past that were obviously important to both people, and yet we'll never really see it.
In come the bad guys. Ollie gets his naked butt shoved into the wall. We get another hint at the importance that Ollie and Tess have in each others lives when Tess leans over to check on Ollie and cries his name. It was very touching.
Dark Sidewalk (The Only Sidewalk in Metropolis):
Clark is determined to save the day, and won't be distracted or turned away just because he doesn't have powers. I love it. And, that car was awesome. When it panned up to Clark's face, it only did so (at least on my screen) up to the top of his forehead, and his hair was all brushed back. He looked like red-K Clark to me for a minute, and I really liked it. Either way, we now know that the Dr. is the new plot device and can do everything from save aliens lives, cracking computer codes, investigating, and even presenting expensive cars to heroes in need by having them in the perfect spot in a dark alley.
Villain Mansion:
Those two kids are crazy and dense. I do like that they want to form their own league, but if Tess trained this team together, wouldn't they already have the information on the other meteor powered individuals from Black Creek? Maybe not, or maybe Tess only trained a few members and didn't key them into the others who were at Black Creek. But, either way, they were going to torture the code out of Tess.
I can already see something that this new league is going to need: A big old plot device character who can do amazing things with a computer and can guide them. They won't succeed, but who knows, maybe they would have if they had a magic helper. And that's not a blow at Chloe, because this episode proved that the writers will always use a character as a plot device. Even if Chloe dies this season or is gone like in Injustice, the writers are going to find a person with seemingly magical abilities who can come up with the answers to almost everything and can provide help in a number of impossible ways.
Bette didn't really sound tough enough, even when she said that she's not Bette anymore, she's plastique. She just looked like a little girl who was out of control and had joined up with an older, troubled guy.
So, Clark is brave and decides to come rescue Tess even though he has no powers. He ends up choked. Luckily, Ollie had time to put his clothes back on and rescue him. Again, a question presents itself as to whether or not kryptonite would work on Parasite since he doesn't have alien DNA, but the show tells us it would work and Parasite goes down in pain. Then Olliver temporarily LOSES HIS FREAKING MIND. He was bashing that guy to death. And he even paused for half a second to grab a pool ball. It's a good thing Clark yelled at him to stop, or that's another death Olliver would have on his conscience. I don't know if we're supposed to feel that Olliver just hates bad guys so much he went crazy, or was so mad that the guy was hurting Tess and threatening to kill her.
Either way, it reminds me of the two times this show has given us a Clark who was so devastated at having Lana taken from him that he was apparently willing to kill Lex. And you know what, those storylines sucked. With Clark, they weren't allowed to show him killing someone, so both times he was stopped by others. I hated that Clark was shown to be in that place at all. It's too bad there wasn't a restriction on the Green Arrow being shown to kill someone. Or maybe there is, and when we find out Lex wasn't in the truck down the road and it was only a clone or something, then we'll learn that he didn't officially kill someone. I'm glad Ollie didn't kill the guy, but I wish he would have stopped it himself instead of needing someone else to interrupt his beating and tell him to stop.
I feel an ounce of sadness for parasite as he is bloodied and beaten on the pool table, and crying out in pain because of the ring. Clark explains that if he gives the powers back, it won't hurt anymore. The guy hands them over. It's too bad we couldn't see a follow-up with Parasite in this episode. I'd be curious to know how he felt after what happened.
Luthercorp Office (Ollie's New Homestead Since His Airplane Blew Up):
Ollie puts the black K in his desk (because everyone has no idea what a hiding place is) and Clark walks in. We learn the Bette and Parasite are in a facility that is unescapable. Hm, I wonder how that's possible or explained. But, it's nice to know they are somewhere safe and getting some help. It probably won't take, and is a bit ridiculous that all of this has been set up in offscreenville by the JL, but I'm still glad they mentioned it.
Clark is determined to focus on finding Chloe and Davis. He also wants to know where Olliver got that ring from. Yes, where did you get that ring from Olliver? And why did you have it on in that scene? Curious, very curious.
Ollie confesses that he killed Clark. I'm pretty surprised, because I figured that Clark would find out about that from someone else. I thought the Doctor would tell him since he learned it from Chloe. But, Olliver confesses. Clark wants to know why Ollie was wearing it, and I do too.
We get another speech where Ollie reveals his thinking. He thinks he did the right thing, since Lex was such a threat to the world, and Clark. But, he does have guilt that "weighs him down". I'm glad that he's got guilt, but I sure hope his attitude about the right thing to do changes pretty soon.
Clark says "I'll take it from here", and I almost cried I was so happy. I don't know quite why I was so happy, but I really was. Clark doesn't want to put anyones life at risk, and he feels worried for the other heroes who are offering to join him in the fight. But, he also won't let those who are willing to take a life so easily stand beside him. There's my guy. Ollie happens to think that Clark is putting his ego in the way, and that his stand against killing is merely Clark's way of keeping his hands clean. I love the speech Clark gives Ollie about doing what is right, and retaining your morals in the process.
It was perfect when Ollie said "I'm not your enemy Clark", because the show is certainly setting them apart from each other right now. Ollie wants Clark to know that he may differ on what to do in the situation, but he's still fighting on the same side as Clark. But, Clark doesn't let it drop that easy, and he responds with the apt question "Then who are you?". I loved it. That's the question Ollie is going to have to face.
Barn of hidden objects:
The black K is hidden in the secret toolbox, and the crystal is gone. In walks Tess. She wants Clark to trust her so bad, but she is seriously unable to give up all her cards. She knows a lot of information, but she wants to keep it close to the vest because she doesn't want to give up her power or her place in these epic events. I'm glad Clark stood up to her. I don't know if she really destroyed the crystal (which would make zero sense in the typical Superman story since it's Alien Technology) or if she's taken it and is lying about having it destroyed because she doesn't want Clark to think the crystal can be an option. I hope we find out for sure if it's gone or not.
Tess gives her argument of why she thinks Clark needs to kill Davis. She thinks a hero sometimes must sacrifice their own morality in order to protect the world. She does sound like Lex, and I'm glad Clark called her on that. It was sad seeing how hurt that made Tess, though. I think she really does want Clark to trust her and let her be a part of his journey, and it was a slap in the face for Clark to discard her. But, Clark did the right thing. She's trying to insert herself into this dangerous situation that she has no business in, and Clark feels that her actions have not only crossed the line ethically but may force him into a situation where he has no way out but to commit murder.
She says something along the lines of killing Davis Bloom being necessary as an entire civilizations survival depends on it. Now, at the time, I assumed she meant the human species on Earth. But, given the last scene, I think she must have been referring to Kandor. How this will work out is anyone's guess.
Back to the Room Where Villainous Humans Are Tricked Into Believing They Are Saving The World By Evil Aliens:
The orb is whispering and glowing. And it had been left sitting right on the desk where any old security guard or visiting guest could see it or hear it while she tried once again to win Clark's trust. So, she enters the office and the orb glows brighter. Tess says "I did what you asked", and we hear the orb declare what sounds like "You can be the savior of Kandor", or "You will be the savior of Kandor", or "You may be the savior of kandor" or "You are the savior of Kandor". It's hard to tell with the sound of this scene, but it's one of those sentences and it presents the same mystery. How the freak did Kandor come into this? Why do the alien technology devices work one way during a certain arc, and then show back up with new qualities during another arc? Hopefully we find out what the hell they meant and where they are headed with this. My guess is it will play in the ninth season, but they're going to get the Zod/Kandor storyline started in next week's finale. But, there is so much already going on, it seems like another big story line thrown in to an already busy episode. Hopefully, this is going to be used in an intelligent manner and sets up a wonderful 9th season. That's the dream, anyways.
Conclusion You Thought I Would Never Arrive At:
This episode made one thing clear to me: Tess is way too informed to survive. While they may have given her a place in season 9 by connecting her to this Orb plot, I just don't think she will survive for next season. She practically knows more about Clark's secret than he does. It also makes Lex and Lionel look intellectually lower than Tess. She was able to piece everything together, and apparently all the pieces were there the whole time (Lionel's journal, many of the artifacts, etc.). I don't really like that Tess came on the scene and figured everything out in one season when it took Lionel and Lex several to reach some of the same conclusions. Now, Clark only recently started with the Red and Blue Blur heroics, so that's something Lex and Lionel never had. But, the newspapers did report on mysterious saves around the area throughout the series. They just didn't know if it was one person, several people, or just supernatural events that were caused by no specific person. Lex and Lionel both used those occurrences and Clark's connection to them to form their suspicions about Clark, however.
I just really think that Tess has way too much information to survive. And, I think her solving the puzzle came on so soon that it makes it seem as though Lex and Lionel just weren't as clever as Tess. But, Tess has been an interesting addition to the season. I'm just disappointed that they've created her place as being so involved with this secret knowledge business instead of forging a new path for her.
Right after I saw the episode, I gave it a five. But, after thinking it over, I'm bumping it up to a six or seven. The direction was beautiful, and the acting was great. We got some great lines in this episode, even though we got some odd dialogue too. After Beast, I was so excited for Injustice. Then we got the secret trailer for Doomsday, and I just wanted Injustice over with already so I could see Doomsday. I was hoping that Injustice would be an epic episode though, and I was glad we were FINALLY getting to see the Injustice League. The IL didn't rock my world, and I didn't find them pivotal to the season. They set the pieces in line for the episode plot, but I didn't feel they were needed. It seems like they could have used other people or situations to get the same points across to set up the finale, and that's a problem for me. I want episodes and characters who are needed for the plot, and who uniquely fit with what's happening on the show.
Overall, I wasn't blown out of the water. Maybe my huge expectations and excitement for Doomsday influenced my opinion of this episode. I don't think so, though. I really think this episode was solid, but not really memorable.
Next week looks to be maybe the most memorable episode of the series.
SupaBoy
05-09-2009, 04:08 AM
man ur reviews are humungous. lol
La Donna
05-09-2009, 04:19 AM
man ur reviews are humungous. lol
:lol:I know. Sorry!
When I was in college I had a speech class, and we had to give 3-5 minute speeches. Everyone hated it and barely got over 3 minutes. Mine went to 10. I was docked for it. You'd think I would have learned something, right?
actaeon
05-09-2009, 04:51 AM
Meh. I'm getting tired of Clark and Oliver arguing the same point over and over; Clark's like all "never kill, ever!" and Ollie's like, "dude's gotta do what a dude's gotta do!". I get it already, they're going nowhere new with this debate, just spinning their wheels now. Get on with the story already!
The beginning of the episode was interesting, with Chloe's change of heart. I was getting ready to jump all over her for it; she stood by Ollie while he was massacring other people, but as soon as he's a threat to her (duh!) she wants him dead?! --but then, of course, it turns out she's not Chloe, it's an impostor. Kind of a cheat, I say. Same with Clark's sudden 180 on what to do with Dooms, in Ollie's office; that interesting turnaround turned out to be a lie.
Which brings me to another problem. Clark is supposed to be so moral, so high-minded-- and yet there he is lying to Ollie. He's okay with lying to his friend and colleague, because he needs Ollie to steal the black kryptonite for him. What??!
I think Tess was the high point of the episode. It was fun watching her fend off Ollie's lounge-lizard seduction attempts. It's also fun trying to figure out what her game is. And she was about the only character who was talking sense when she told Clark at the end of the episode that the reason he must eliminate Doomsday is to save civilization!
cma_454
05-09-2009, 05:45 AM
...And now, it's the same with Chloe. They say that she is doing the right thing, but then we also hear that every choice Chloe made has resulted in Clark's death and a huge change to the timeline. So, Chloe did the right thing and made things worse, and Clark did the right thing and made things worse.
The only way they can salvage this is if they prove next season that doing the right thing is truly the best option, and that by doing the right thing once they have this information that things changed, they can set things right again. Otherwise the essence of Superman is truly lost, and the message will be that doing the right thing is sometimes not what's best for the world...
The thing is, La Donna, that's all too often how the real world works. Doing the 'right' thing doesn't always lead to the best outcome.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
La Donna
05-09-2009, 07:24 AM
The thing is, La Donna, that's all too often how the real world works. Doing the 'right' thing doesn't always lead to the best outcome.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Oh, I know, believe me I know! But, one of the reasons I enjoy the Superman story is because of his mantra to "always do the right thing". Sometimes, the right thing is very hard to do, and yet he does it. And in the stories, when he does the right thing, it doesn't result in horrible consequences. When he does the right thing, sometimes negative things happen, but usually the right thing is also the best thing as well.
While in the real world, and some very good stories, we can have deeply grey issues over what the right thing truly is, in Superman, there is one right thing, and Superman's doing it. And the end of the stories are not that several people have to die in order for him to become Superman, or the most moral choices he makes and inspires others to make have deadly consequences for other people's lives.
I don't want to have a Clark Kent who is not only emotionally punished every time he does what's right but also is responsible for punishing others because he did the right thing. I'm really tired of that happening on this show, and I don't want it. I don't want Clark to be the one responsible for the deaths of so many because he saved his friend's life. I don't want Clark to have to face his darkest hour next season because he did what was morally right and all hell broke loose because of it.
I guess my point is that I watch because I want to be entertained, and sometimes uplifted. This type of story in a Clark Kent tale is endlessly heart-breaking and cruel to Clark Kent.
And now, they are also doing it to Chloe. Guilt seems to be the flavor of the day in the writer's room, or should I say, season 9.
NoSupeForYou
05-09-2009, 09:02 AM
I enjoyed the review La Donna, though I didn't like the episode.
Another thing about that Ollie and Tess scene where he does everything to get her fingerprints. It didn't make any sense. He wants her fingerprint in his little computer so he can fool her vault. Yet after he scans it from the bottle onto the computer it goes over it and tells him that it is indeed the fingerprint of Tess Mercer???? To do that, wouldn't he already have to have it on file? So why was he trying to steal it from her in the first place???
tibbit78
05-09-2009, 09:36 AM
LaDonna, great review. I enjoyed reading it.
Joe90
05-09-2009, 09:43 AM
'Loved it'- Confused,NO not me,come -on its Smallville(had to watch it twice thou).
We are finally coming closer, 'slowly' to CK destiny.
Can't Wait For the Final-Doomsday.
And Specially with Clois back...Grrrrrrrrr....
dotsie23
05-09-2009, 10:21 AM
On to the show.....
Tess's Office of Diabolical Planning:
When the first scene started, it took me a minute to really get into the dialogue. I was too busy looking at Tom. He looked different this time, and I couldn't pinpoint why. Finally, I realized how lean Tom looked. I don't know if it was the clothes or Tom, but he looked very fit and lean in that suit.
I know what you mean La Donna about being distracted by Clark, I know I am everytime he appears on the screen, but this time I was noticing how lean and trim he looked and how his features looked more defined than usual. Anyway, I didn't really like or dislike this episode it had it's moments: Ollie and Tess, Tess and Clark, Ollie pulling a WWF move on Parasite (who I found to be the more interesting of the surviving two IL). I could go on and on, no offense La Donna I Love your reviews :D I just don't understand when did Lex have time to get that kryptonite ring made?
batfinx
05-09-2009, 02:20 PM
If I had to rate this right now, it would be a 3 (or lower). At this time, all I can say is it was better than Power and Requiem. But, that's not saying much.
I'm going to wait until after Doomsday. Maybe that will allow me to see this episode in a better light.
Yeah, I gave it a 3. I wanted to be fair so I watched it twice and it wasn't horribly bad like say Ageless or Power, but it was just not interesting. The only person on Tess' team we really saw before was Plastique and she was whiny enough the first time around. And Tess knows too much to continue living so if she gets snuffed I won't be surprised, but I'll be happy she's gone. Oliver isn't fun or heroic anymore so I don't even look forward to his scenes, but I used to and that's too bad. Clark does the right thing and sticks to his convictions, but somehow he's wrong according to everyone else. I can't think of any scenes that had standout direction, so I can't really pretend Tom's directing elevated this clunker. I'm sure he did the best with it he could, but in the long run a turd is a turd.
Kid Collins
05-09-2009, 04:21 PM
This ep was okay. They should've shown more Doomsday since it was cliffhanger from last week, but I guess their saving that for the finale. The weakest link was definitely the Injustice League. They were boring and not dangerous or intimidating enough to be interesting.
TW did a decent job directing with the script he was given. What I thought needed toning down was Clark's sermon to Oliver about being a good example and that included not killing. This would've had more impact for me if Clark was always against killing. But how I could I forget that in Requiem he was ready to rip Lex a new hole until Lana stopped him? It would definitely help if all characters have an opinion or viewpoint and it's not changed week to week just to suit a certain plot or scene. :lol:
I knew it was fake Chloe even if I didn't read spoilers. I know Chloe better than Clark does. :lol:
Strongest acting came from Cassidy Freeman. Tess is bat sh*t crazy but her hypnotic eyes definitely have my attention. :D
Ooh, and do we have a returning visitor by the name of Zod? Brings back memories of Vessel and Zod. I can hardly wait!:rolleyes:
Most entertaining was Oliver and his scenes with Tess. Too bad it looks like Tess is taking a dirt nap in the next ep. Couldn't Jimmy be killed instead? Please? ;)
HeroesUnlimited
05-09-2009, 05:29 PM
I like it.
Nice build up to the Finale.
Some good freak v Clark and Ollie stuff. And heaps of reinforcement of the famous Superman ethic, even in the face of demands by Ollie, Tess and "Chloe" to kill Doomsday.
Kudos to all those who called "Chloe" as a fake, even based on the trailer. Great performance from AM.
Fine epi by Justin Hartley as he swung from dark and almost a bit evil to flirty and hilarious and back again e.g. Parasite's abilities. Intense epi from Cassidy Freeman as she also swung wildly from apparently evil to good and back to evil.
TW must have had a tough job with plenty of screen time and directing responsibilities, but he pulled it off.
Plenty of almost comic book, short, sharp, almost corny dialogue which many seemed to hate but I didn't mind. Good efforts from guests Plastique and Parasite as well.
And I never let myself get to bent out of shape regarding mythos characters being portrayed differently to the comics. This is the Smallville version of the early days of Superman. It obviously spoils things for many fans though. [shrugs]
And the expanding orb with the "savior of Kandor" line at the end was downright intriguing.
A solid 8.5.
I thought Justin Hartley really saved this episode. Without his performance, it would have been very dull IMO. With regard to the mythos, I'm one of those people you mentioned. However, I don't mind when the put a new spin on an old idea. What they did with Mikhail Mxypytlik, for example, was pretty clever. Had they brought him to the show as he appears in the comic books, it might have come off as too cheesy. I didn't mind that they used the Parasite, but I thought he was far too similar to Eric Summers. For that reason, I think they should have just went ahead and made Eric Summers the Parasite. Heck, even if the original actor wasn't available, they could have always had his twin brother (Jimmy Olsen) play duel roles. :)
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:lol:I know. Sorry!
When I was in college I had a speech class, and we had to give 3-5 minute speeches. Everyone hated it and barely got over 3 minutes. Mine went to 10. I was docked for it. You'd think I would have learned something, right?
I DREADED that class in college. I think everybody does. BTW, If the comment about long posts was directed at me, I don't mind if you write really long posts! By all means, post away! I just suggested that some people (myself included) would be less likely to read them if they were super long. I prefer a more succinct analysis of an episode. But to each their own. We may differ on that point, but I consider all of you a part of my "extended family" based on our mutual love for Smallville. :D
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Loved It/Hated It thread is getting slow today, and today is Saturday. Where is everybody?
Well I can't speak for everyone, but I was outside all day doing yard work. My first grass-cutting of the year. I was DREADING it. I let it go far too long and the grass was past my knee. Tall, wet grass with a delicate (stalling) lawnmower. Needless to say, I cursed a lot this afternoon. And now my whole body aches (man I envy Clark, lol). And the worst part is, I'm STILL not done. I got so tired I had to quit for today. There still a portion of my backyard that hasn't been done yet. I think I saw Jeff Probst from Survivor back there. He was holding tribal council :)
La Donna
05-09-2009, 05:59 PM
HeroesUnlimited wrote:
I DREADED that class in college. I think everybody does. BTW, If the comment about long posts was directed at me, I don't mind if you write really long posts! By all means, post away! I just suggested that some people (myself included) would be less likely to read them if they were super long. I prefer a more succinct analysis of an episode. But to each their own. We may differ on that point, but I consider all of you a part of my "extended family" based on our mutual love for Smallville.
No, it wasn't at you:). There are a lot of people who would rather skip the really long posts so that they could get through the thread and people's general opinions a bit faster. I've done it on other threads if I only have a bit of time but I want to see what the general opinions are.
My family doesn't really like to ask me questions very often because they are looking for a quick answer and I don't seem capable of limiting my response. I always feel like they need the entire run-down and any information that pertains to the main answer. It annoys them to no end! I've gotten better, but not too much.
I also consider everyone on the forum an extended family. I just can't turn on them, because their family! I can argue, and do often. But, that's how I treat my real family too! I have nine brothers and sisters, and I'm number 5 of the ten of us. I'm mediator and devil's advocate. I'm okay with criticism:)
And Thanks NoSupeForYou! I had the same thought about obtaining the fingerprint.
Thanks Tibbit! I appreciate that a lot.
Thanks dotsie23! I'm really glad that I wasn't the only one to notice how Tom looked in that scene. It was a nice visual:)
tibbit78
05-09-2009, 06:02 PM
I thought Justin Hartley really saved this episode. Without his performance, it would have been very dull IMO. With regard to the mythos, I'm one of those people you mentioned. However, I don't mind when the put a new spin on an old idea. What they did with Mikhail Mxypytlik, for example, was pretty clever. Had they brought him to the show as he appears in the comic books, it might have come off as too cheesy. I didn't mind that they used the Parasite, but I thought he was far too similar to Eric Summers. For that reason, I think they should have just went ahead and made Eric Summers the Parasite. Heck, even if the original actor wasn't available, they could have always had his twin brother (Jimmy Olsen) play duel roles. :)
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I DREADED that class in college. I think everybody does. BTW, If the comment about long posts was directed at me, I don't mind if you write really long posts! By all means, post away! I just suggested that some people (myself included) would be less likely to read them if they were super long. I prefer a more succinct analysis of an episode. But to each their own. We may differ on that point, but I consider all of you a part of my "extended family" based on our mutual love for Smallville. :D
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Well I can't speak for everyone, but I was outside all day doing yard work. My first grass-cutting of the year. I was DREADING it. I let it go far too long and the grass was past my knee. Tall, wet grass with a delicate (stalling) lawnmower. Needless to say, I cursed a lot this afternoon. And now my whole body aches (man I envy Clark, lol). And the worst part is, I'm STILL not done. I got so tired I had to quit for today. There still a portion of my backyard that hasn't been done yet. I think I saw Jeff Probst from Survivor back there. He was holding tribal council :)
:lol: Thanks for the humor, HeroesUnlimited. I still have a little grass to cut (only up by the patio. I'll cut it tomorrow, or Monday, if it doesn't rain.
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LaDonna, you have 10 brothers and sisters. Wow!! I wish I had 10 brothers & sisters, I only have 3 brothers. I wish I had 2/3 sisters. That would be awesome!!
K!D CHAO$
05-09-2009, 08:17 PM
I thought it was cool but i think were all waiting for the ultimate coming up anyway
Joe90
05-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Cor i think i need to improve in my typing skills looking at some of this Posts....:eek:
If only i knew, how a goddam computer works:o
bobby1984
05-09-2009, 09:10 PM
thought it was good, yea it lack some places but was good, and wasnt confusing to me, the ending was great i had to rewind my dvr, i cant wait to find out who it was or waht will happen, already adding to the doomsday vs superman and his destiny story that we r all waiting for and that is gonna be great
supercatmom
05-09-2009, 10:56 PM
I gave it a 4. almost felt like a filler episode.
Nothing new was learned.
Chloe is still MIA hanging with Davis.
Tess is still obsessed with getting Clark and Doomsday to fight till the death.
Ollie still keeps harping on killing Davis to Clark. And by the way, since Ollie buried Davis when Chloe killed him, shouldn't he have realized that killing him isn't the answer since he comes back to life?
By the way, where the heck is Lois?
And the long awaited Injustice League episode seemed in the words of Clark "Not much of a fight"
And Clark's idea to use black kryptonite to separated the beast from Davis and send it to the Phanton Zone might be a good idea but no one is listening to him. There screaming at him to fight Davis to the death. Since they are both from Krypton, why are Tess and Ollie so sure Clark would win?
claudiobraz
05-09-2009, 11:25 PM
Clark only has to be achieved without killing anyone because of the writers, want to see?
When was a being of metal in Chloe (Brainiac) who shows in the episode?
A hero with magnetic powers capable of taking off the villain of Chloe.
As Doomsday is part human and other Kryptonian what appears in this episode?
A stone able to separate the two.
This decision is not moral, it is lucky!
You only find out what you really can do in a situation "really" with no exit, the rest is froth.
Fallen One
05-10-2009, 06:25 AM
GREEN ARROW LOSES MIND, SHOOTS UP LEATHER CLOTHES FACTORY
by the Associated Press
Metropolis, Kansas-- In a bizarre turn of events, Smallville Justice League member Green Arrow became the suspect in an ongoing investigation after allegedly shooting up the Metropolis Leather Clothes Factory. Police received a call from a pestedrian outside the store after she was sprayed with mosquito repellent by the Smallville star. Owner Robb Wilson, 35, spoke of the shooting.
"I was rearranging the vests on aisle three when a very large man with sunblockers approached and asked me if our leather was domestic or foreign," recalled a terrified Wilson. "I joked and said 'That depends. Do you want chaps or sequins?' Thats when he took out his arrow and... oh God..."
Daily Planet reporter Clark Kent, 22, was the only other witness on scene at the time of the incident, however when he saw reporters approaching he quickly drank a bottle of rubbing alcohol. Paramedics responded on scene immediately and rushed him to Metropolis General.
Authories on scene have no other leads at this time but was seen laughing and pointing at the outfits sold in the store. "You wasn't suppose to see that," said Detective John Jones of the Metropolis Police Department when approached about footage. "We're positive that we'll apprehend the suspect in a timely fashion. Please be advised that he is considered armed and dangerous. Should you spot the suspect, do not engage. Just holla somebody saveeee me. Ha ha, I'm kidding. No really I'm kidding."
While the Police believes this to be an isolated incident, the leather store recently came under scrutiny after a report surfaced about Mayor Thomas' recent purchases. "I - did not - buy - leather pants from that woman, Ms. Garcia." said a defiant Mayor Thomas two days before breaking down and confessing to popping Skittles the day of the purchase.
The Green Arrow's reign of terror began last Tuesday at a T-Mobile store in San Antonio, Texas. Cellular customer Ronald Jenkins recalls the whole story in horror.
"I had just signed up for T-Mobile cell phone service," Jenkins quivered. "Just as I was about to sign the contract, this weird music blared over the intercom. Suddenly this weird dude with sunglasses ran up to me. I'll never forget his face. He had this upturned lip, like Elvis, ya know? Anyway, he told me that he was taking my cell phone because he needed to finish business with some guy named Lex. Before I could answer, he shot me in the buttocks and ran out with my phone. It was so horrible. He tucked his shirt into his plastic utility belt. I'm still having nightmares."
Jenkins's story is nothing new to police in Metropolis, who have been on the look out for Green Arrow since this initial attack.
"We can't do anything to him for taking the phone. Legally, that's his. We want to question him about wearing leather in the summer," explained Police Chief Scott Nash. "This isn't the only complaint against the Green Arrow. He has pulled this [explective] before. In the last week, he has ambushed various cosumers. In the process, he has taken three leased cars, stolen two cell phones, reserved nine motel rooms, ordered eleven cable boxes, made himself the groom in six weddings, and the bride in four others. This guy's insane."
The police took a sketch report on scene but the drawing turned out to be former WB frog Michigan J with sunglasses.
Copyright 2009 by the Associated Press
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Boy does Oliver have some issues! Or maybe I do. Maybe my intro should have been about my date last night, that would have REALLY given you guys some laughs. Alas, last Thursday was penultimate episode of the season. So lets get too it. Scroll down!
Previously ON!
Staff fighting led to no apologies. Bette sounded like Marge Simpson. Tess touches heroes. Oliver blew up the wrong person. Tess found a ball that whispers. And Insanity.
We open on the moon that time forgot. At the Daily Planet Tess is leaving her office while telling someone on the phone to slow down and wait for the "team". Unbeknownst to her, Clark is standing by the elevator smirking like he did something evil to the air vents. She wants to know why he likes sneaking up on Bosses. And he has a reply that I never ever, ever thought I would ever ever hear in my life.. ever.
"I guess I assumed after you ambushed me in my barn and accused me of being an alien Jesus that we had dropped any formalities." - Clark Kent, 7:01 PM.
Tess smiles and tells him he's charming then invites him in her office for chinese food! Crazy, just crazy.
Clark isn't in the mood for soy sauce and shows her the latest headline about Davis' manhunt. He thinks its irresponsible journalism and needlessly spreading panic. Reckless is a word he uses, which she counters that he's the one being reckless by not doing everything in his power to stop Doomsday. That seems to sting but he keeps some semblance of a poker face and points out that if Davis is the beast she thinks he is that the manhunt is dangerous and that innocent policemen will be killed. Tess grins that if thats the only way for Clark to know where to find Doomsday, so be it. Just wow.
Clark doesn't think this is a game and worries about the lives that will be endangered, such as Chloe's. Tess looks up and calls Chloe the accomplice to Davis' crimes. Oh Tess, stop, I'm blushing. Clark however calls Chloe a hostage of Davis and says she's in the most danger. Excuse me while I roll my eyes so hard that I see my brain. Tess thinks the reason he's refusing her help is because he's afraid of finding Davis and facing his destiny, but that promises to make it happen regardless.
Instead of shooting fire at her, Clark thinks that over but his thoughts are interrupted by Chloe's voice calling for his help. He speeds out of the office as we cut to the forest where "Chloe" is running for her life. Get her wolves! Get her! Good boys! Wait! Noooooo! She runs into the street and Clark saves her before a truck runs her over. Bad wolves!
Clark calms her and she hugs him in relief. Reveal some rejects from X3 who are watching everything. Bette is leading them. Oh dear Lord.
Opening credits. Hey! Who is the guy with camera?!
Kent Farm. Clark pours the not Chloe "Noe" a cup of tea while she stares at a fireplace on the couch. He suggests she see a doctor and she doesn't answer. He tells her its OK if she doesn't want to talk about it, and she still says nothing. She's like.. mute.
Folks, I think we got a keeper!
Clark places the mug on the table near her and she jumps a little. He turns to walk away but she starts sobbing about Davis keeping her hostage, and that he forced her to stay in a hotel, and how she didn't understand why Michael Jackson took that chimp to the Grammys. A sad story later, Clark has bought this crap and tells her she's OK now. She says no and grabs his hands. Clark looks down at the way she grabbed him and looks as if he's thinking about running away. She continues that Davis is still out there and that any good that was in him is now gone - that no one's safe until Clark kills him.
Auto shop. Oh come on. The only member of the Injustice League over 18 is laid out, dead. This League isn't Gossip Girls, Dawn. Bette watches Livewire cry over the body of Neutron while Parasite acts like a jerk about it. Tess arrives and after reminding them that they are a team, she demands an explanation. Bette quickly puts the blame on Neutron and Livewire. Wow, go team. Tess yells at Livewire about engaging before the Traveler arrived. Livewire yells back at her about this Traveler mumbo jumbo, Parasite yells at her about yelling, and Bette yells at Livewire just to yell. This is the worst team ever. Well, besides the 2008 Detroit Lions.
Livewire wants out of the group, and Bette tries to be her voice of reason. That last sentence wasn't a joke either. Tess tries to convince her of all the good that will be accomplished if she stays on the team but nuh uh. That dog won't hunt, toots. Livewire wants out and thats that. Tess nods to Parajerk who walks over and steal Livewire's powers with yet another smartass remark. Now its up those two to find Doomsday. A powerless Livewire meekly asks what Tess plans to do with her as the scene ends.
LuthorCorp. Clark and Oliver are going over some images in their search for Davis. Clark is asked how "Chloe" is doing, but before he blames himself for her hair being blonde Oliver cuts him off. Thinking, Clark proposes a way to stop Davis but he'll need Oliver's help for it. Oliver jumps at the chance to get rid of Davis 'once and for all' and is all ears. Clark tells him they'll need Lex's help and Oliver grabs a shovel.. or did he?
Actually when Lex is mentioned, Oliver gets nervous and reminds Clark that he's dead but Clark was talking about stealing some Black Kryptonite that Lex left Tess. Oliver's the man with the pants, so that sounds like a plan. Clark thanks him for being a good friend and Oliver tells him that will never change. Clark looks thoughtful and stares out into the skyline as Oliver reassures him that getting rid of Davis for good is the best solution. Clark nods, its time to kill Davis Bloom.
Commercial Break. Skittles - Taste the Rainbow. OK. Really, what you trying to say here, Skittles? Huh? Huh?
Kent Farm. At the barn Clark opens a hidden latch on the floor that stores a box of crystals. Footsteps are heard and Noe walks in with a curious look. She asks him whats he going on and Clark tells her his plan: he's going to save Davis. Noe's face drops faster than Ben Affleck's career. She asks when was he planning on telling her and he says not until after he did it... that he didn't want to tell her or Oliver his plan of separating Davis with the black-K and sending Dooms to the Phantom Zone with the crystal because he's starting to feel like in order to do the right thing he has to keep secrets from them. The swinging ball of blonde hair is back as she tries to get him to change his stance and kill Davis.
He reminds her that she asked him to save Davis last week and she says she was wrong, but he thinks she was right and that there is a side of Davis that should be saved. She asks what he'll do if the plan fails but he doesn't think it will.
"Sometimes justice is not about making the easy decision. Sometimes its about finding that last little bit of good inside someone and saving them from themselves." - Clark Kent, 7:21PM.
Clark gets a call from Dr. Hamilton. Doomsday snuck out of the hotel again.
Emil...Emil... Tell me. Tell me.
Tell ya what, Clark?
Tell me you love my hair more than Oliver's.
Geez almighty. I'm not having this weird conversation with you again.
WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME?!
Auto shop. Hamilton picks a bone chip out of a caved wall as he tells Clark and Noe that Jonnz gave him the heads up on what went down. Doomsday struck again and two people are dead. Noe uses the opportunity to remind Clark that innocent people were killed but Hamilton doesn't think so. He says the victims were meteor infected and evidence suggests they were hunting Dooms. Clark suspects Tess' headlines are encouraging freaks to hunt Dooms but Noe interrupts that the freaks were doing what they thought was right. Ignoring that, Hamilton keeps his eye on Clark and adds that there is something else going on because the two victims died by different means.
Neutron's body has claw marks, but Livewire's doesn't. Using a infrared light, Hamilton shows Clark a barcode imprinted under their skin. Then he gives him an explosive GPS chip that was denoted inside Livewire's head. Clark concludes that someone other than Doomsday denoted the chip and Noe starts to freak out at the thought and backs away. Clark and Hamilton ask her if something is wrong and she lies that she needs fresh air and walks out quickly.
After she leaves, Hamilton admits to not trusting her and thinks something's up. He brings up how she wanted to cure Davis last week but this week wants him dead. Clark raises a eyebrow at learning that she tried to cure Davis behind his back and Hamilton isn't surprised she hid it from him given her attraction to Davis. Can I say how much I love Hamilton?
Noe walks to her car and calls Bette. They have to meet at the treehouse pronto.
Abandoned building. Noe questions if Bette and Parasite know whats going on. Parasite, walking like he has a bowl of 'Cream Of Wheat' stuck up his ass, smarts off about only taking Livewire's powers and nothing more. Bette denies anything as well. Noe didn't think it was them but she thinks Tess killed Liverwire. Now walking like Ace Ventura, Parasite walks away and says this is a waste of his time but Noe stops him by reminding them all that they too may have a chip in their heads. The both of them take up for Tess pretty hardcore and dismiss Noe's concerns. That will come back to bite them in the butt.
Commercial Break. Starburst - Isn't Life Juicy? If by "juicy," you mean "full of bills and not enough sleep," then yes. Life is really juicy.
Daily Planet. Tess is listening to Noe's phone call when Oliver walks in grinning with a bottle of wine. He hands her the bottle and grabs a couple of glasses while she pretends she's too busy to have a drink. Oliver takes a seat and informs her that its OK to drink on the job. Exactly, so you tell her Oliver! Tess picks up on his ulterior motives and he compliments her on being so perceptive, telling her it turns him on.
"If I remember correctly, when it comes to the opposite sex - there isn't anything that doesn't turn you on." - Tess to Oliver, 7:29 PM.
What about chicks with horse tranquilizers, Oliver? I really hate that. Oh, and those freaks who are terrified of air conditioning. Anyway, Oliver nods his head in agreement to being a horn dog and flirts it up a little. She tells him she's busy (probably with her Clark Ouija board), and asks him to leave. One last time he asks her to uncork his bottle.
"Keep your cork, in your pants" - Tess Mercer, seconds later, 7:30 PM.
"Your lost" he replies then leaves. When he gets into the elevator he gets serious, takes out a fingerprint scanner, and holds it up to the bottle of wine Tess held and gets her print. So thats why he was there? Oh you sneaky Arrow.
Isis. Noe is gathering a bunch of photos when Clark blurs in, frightening her. He approaches her cautiously and asks why she took off without warning and why hasn't she answered her cell phone. She gives a simple "sorry Clark" and he looks at her suspiciously. He tells her he has reasons not to trust Oliver and now her. That she contradicted herself by wanting him to kill Davis earlier and that he wants to know what she is hiding.
Noe admits that she is hiding something and that she's been lying since she got back. That she knows the people who were killed and that they are part of a team assembled by Tess. As Clark examines the photos of the league members he notices that Tess' assistant, Eva Greer, is a shape shifter and team member as well. Wait wait wait, the tall one with the great pair of legs?? She's a MF? And you have her as Chloe for whole time? What the hell, show!?
Noe is about to explain who she is but blinks and grabs her head in pain. Clark grabs her but she falls, gasping for air. Its too late and she dies in his arms. As Clark calls out to her a bright light surrounds her body and she morphs back to her original form of Eva Greer. Thank you show, thanks a lot.
Hamilton arrives on scene and Clark acknowledges that the real Chloe is still with Doomsday and curses himself for not being able to see through Eva's disguise. Hamilton calms him down as he scans Eva's neck to see that she has a barcode too. Clark cools that Eva didn't deserved what happened to her and that Tess is responsible. Hamilton warns that if Tess has a team looking for Doomsday that the real Chloe could be caught in the cross fire. I'm sorry.. and the bad news is????
Anyway, Clark is about to walk off to confront Tess and is warned that Tess could simply pull the plug and kill all the other members if he does so. Clark thinks and comes up with a plan to jam Tess' GPS signal inside the other freaks. He thinks that if can find and talk to the other members that he could eventually find Chloe for him. Clark, those other members don't care about Chloe.
Abandoned building. Bette is on the phone and she's scared because Ava isn't answering her phone. And you know what happens when she gets emotional - her voice gets higher and scratchier. Clark shows up and scares her even more until he realizes who he is. He says he's there to help but she reminds him that the last time he "helped" she ended up in Belle Reeve. He tells her that Tess is betraying them and that she killed Livewire and Ava. Bette and Ava seemed to be close friends because she didn't take the news of her dying well at all. When Clark shows her the proof and tells her that Hamilton could remove the chip inside her head, she refuses his help and calls Tess a beeotch that must die.
Clark tries to talk her out of that but it doesn't do any good. He tells her that the right thing to do is to turn Tess over to the cops but she rolls her eyes and tells him that he can afford to do the right thing because he's untouchable, but she wants real justice and will make sure she gets it. Clark threatens to stop her and she smirks that he won't be able to. Just as she says that, a hand grabs Clark's shoulder and Parasite stands behind him glowing. A red and blue light goes out of Clark and flies into a him, knocking him to backwards. He gets up breathing heavy and growling that he thought Clark was only fast, but he's much more. Bette stops him from killing Clark and they speed off toward the Luthor Mansion.
Commercial Break. If a woman tries to use 'Just For Men' Hair Dye, will she die?
Hey Oliver. Can you hand me a tissue from the table?
Sure. Let me get my bow and arrow.
It's right next to you. Like two feet away.
I know. Let me get my bow and arrow.
Can't you just reach over and get it?!
No way. Why do that? I take my bow and arrow everywhere. You should hear my old lady when we go to church.
Luthor Mansion. A security guard relays on his com that the east floor is secured, only its not. We see the Green Arrow hanging from the ceiling like Spiderman. How did he get up and how is he not falling? The greenster jumps down and takes out the idiot guard from behind with a pencil-shaped taser. He makes his way to Tess' bedroom and over to a mirror with a secret door behind it. Using the fingerprint of Tess that he got earlier, he opens the door to the secret room and finds an assortment of valuable things: crystals, jewerly, Lana's skull. Looking further he finds the black kryptonite he was looking for but hears voices outside the room. Tess has arrived and she tells her guard to keep trying to unjam the signal from the GSP devices inside her two team members.
She goes in and all is quiet and normal. Walking over to the mirror, she starts to undue her top but she sees Oliver's reflection. The guy has stripped and lays naked in her bed. Only Oliver would do that. He grins for her not to stop taking her clothes off on his account. She snarks that he doesn't know the meaning of word boundaries and he smiles that just because she said no earlier doesn't mean he couldn't try again. She tells him to leave and he's like "well, if you insist.." and gets up butt naked. She turns her head.
"Where the hell are your pants?" - Tess to Oliver Queen, enough said, 7:43 PM.
Don't you just love it when you're asked that question? Ahh memories, memories. Oliver confesses that he hid his pants like he he's done before. She tells him to stop living in the past and he thinks she should stop denying their tension. She admits the tension part, but denies it is sexual. He flirts it up with her some more and asks to start over. Before she answers, the door explodes all around them, knocking Oliver out and knocking her to the ground. As Tess screams over Oliver's unconscious body, Bette and Parajerk storm in to tell her the game is up and that their chips have been disabled. Tess tries to activate the explosives anyway but the control doesn't work. For that, she's punched her out.
A powerless Clark is walking down that street in Metropolis as he tells Hamilton on the phone to get in touch with Tess about the danger she's in. Hamilton asks him if he's "there yet" but Clark hasn't found what he was looking for. Walking a little further he finds it.. a Lamborghini thats waiting for him. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Hellooooo product placement.
Luthor Mansion. Tess wakes up, tied to a chair and bleeding. Parajerk shocks her with livewire's electricity just to torture her and gloat about it. Tess tries to explain why she killed the other two members and calls them traitors, but Bette says she's the one who betrayed everyone. Tess asks what they want,and Bette demands access to all the Black Creek inmates so that she can free them and start their own League. ParaIdiot adds that they no longer work for her and once they get other members they'll be unstoppable. Tess refuses to cooperate, even calling them freaks. Bette holds a sword to her shoulder and moves to stab her but Clark has made it there in that car.
Bette punches Tess out and Parajerk speeds over to mock him. Clark tries to reason with them but he's grabbed by the throat and choked against the wall. Bette harps that her name is Plastique now and that if being bad means that people like Tess gets justice, then she'll rather be bad. A taser arrow shoots takes her down and the Green Arrow zips down to the rescue. He sees Clark getting strangled to death and pulls out a greenK ring that causes Parapunk to shriek to the ground in pain.
Clark watches on as Oliver picks up this guy up like a beer keg, slam him on the pool table, and then proceeds to beat him like the LAPD. Bam! That one was for not being purple, and that one was for walking like you're getting electrocuted, and thats just for being an annoying street punk, and ..wow, OK Oliver you can stop now. And he does stop.. to pick up a 8 ball to smash this guy in the face with. Luckily Clark yells for him to stop.
Parasite complains about the pain from the greenK and Clark tells him the pain will stop if he returns his powers back to him, and he does. The red and blue light flies back into Clark's body. Then in slow motion Clark turns to see Ollie walking out the room with Tess in his arms. They share a evil look between them until the scene fades out. Great scene, especially that look at the end. That was killer.
Commercial Break. Snickers claims that "Offensive Behavior" is another side effect of Hunger. Miley Cyrus' movie career immediately issued a press release claiming that its been really hungry for the past 7 years.
LuthorCorp. Oliver places the black-K in a box as Clark walks in with a serious look on his face. You just knew a confrontation was coming but it didn't take away from the moment at all. Oliver doesn't turn to look at him but he does say that Plastique and Parasite were taken to a special place where there is no escape and where Tess can't get to them... that nothing will get in their way of finding Doomsday now. Clark gets right to it and asks where the greenK ring is. Oliver tells him its in a safe place, and that Clark should be thankful that he had it because it saved his life. Clark walks forward, really quiet. He stops and tells Oliver that he knows a greenK ring could kill him, so why would he make something like that? Oliver tells him he didn't make the ring, he took it.. after he took Lex' life.
Damn. Why did you confess that, Oliver? Clark stares in surprise. Oliver looks down regretful and tells him that Lex may have been his friend but eventually he would have killed him and that the greenK ring is proof of that. Clark is getting angrier by the second and accuses him of having the ring so he could have something to use in case Clark didn't agree with the next murder he planned. Oliver's heard enough. He jumps up with the black-K in hand and shoots an arrow of his own.
"Oh this is great, really really great. You didn't have the guts to take out that murdering bastard. I come in and I mop up your mess and what do you do? You get all self righteous on me!?" Oliver, not taking prisoners, 7:54PM.
He yells that heroes do what they have to do. And that deep down Clark knows it was the right choice because he's going to kill Davis when he finds him, and that he only hopes that the guilt of taking a life doesn't weigh him down like him. Clark thanks him for the black-K but tells him he'll take it from there and walks off. Oliver tells him that although they don't see eye-to-eye on everything that they still are on the same side. Clark turns and says that they aren't. Oliver realizes Clark lied about needing the black-k to kill Davis and Clark admits that he's going to use it to split Davis and Doomsday, then send Doomsday to the PZ alone. Oliver looks annoyed and throws in his face that he keeps secrets too. Clark answers that it was the only way to get to get Oliver to steal the black-K for him.
"How many lives are you willing to sacrifice when your plan fails this time, Clark?" - biting dialogue from Oliver, 7:55PM.
Clark looks thoughtful as if he didn't know how to answer that. Oliver tells him to put his ego aside and think of his responsibility to the planet as a whole. Clark steps forward and says that his responsibility is to do whats right. That they are suppose to set an example for everyone and if they don't then they are no better than the villains they fight. The both of them stare at each other for a few seconds. Oliver shakes his head and says he's not Clark's enemy, Clark answers back, "then who are you?" Ouch! Great scene, great scene, did I say great scene!? Oliver and Clark were awesome here.
Kent Farm. In the barn Clark hides the black-K inside a tool box, then walks over to where he was hiding the crystals only to find them missing. A voice asks 'are you looking for the crystals', and its Tess who stands at the top of stairs. He asks if Eva told her the location and she openly gloats about the stuff she learned by listening to Eva's talks with him. She lies about having anything to do with the exploding GPS devices and blames it on Lex. Clark of course doesn't believe her and demands where to know where his crystal is. She turns and tells him she had it destroyed so that he'll have no choice but to kill Doomsday. That sending him to prison isn't enough, and that she won't risk Doomsday escaping from it.
Clark tells her this isn't her decision to make, and lies that she's doing all of this for him. Clark shakes his head in disbelief and tells her that she's so delusional that she put together a small army just to make some fictional prophecy come true. She blabs that the mark of a true hero is someone who is willing to sacrifice morality to keep the world safe. Clark grinds his teeth and states no one has the right to choose who lives or dies, that she's just like Lex. She tells him the difference between her and Lex is that she still believes in him, and that she's made sure he can't avoid his fate now.
"Lex did teach me one thing. The word fate is used by people who lost sight of who they are." - Clark Kent, 7:59PM.
He asks why is she so determined to kill Davis Bloom and she gives a creepy smile then answers that an entire civilization depends on it. Makes.. no sense.. whatsoever.
Now at the Luthor Mansion, Tess walks toward the door of the study and a female voice is heard saying "please stop" followed by a male voice asking for Kal El. Tess opens the door and the orb is glowing and rises into the air as a voice speaks from it. It asks Tess if Kal El is ready to fulfill the prophecy and she answers that she did what was asked and that the crystals are now destroyed. The light from the orb fills the room as the voice calls Tess the savior of Kandor. One question: What!?!?!?!?!
All in All: What a head trip the ending of this episode was. Just plain crazy. But it was a good episode, although I was bored in parts of it.
Clark was good in this episode but again thats to be expected in any episode written by Al Septien & Turi Meyer. The thing I loved most about him this episode is that he stood his ground against Oliver and Tess who both want Davis/Doomsday killed. Overall it was a very good episode for his character and seeing him with Hamilton and Oliver instead of just always going to Chloe for help was a very nice welcome.
The Injustice League was a big let down. Two members were killed immediately before we got the chance to see their powers, and then Tess kills the only other member that I didn't mind. They were said to be hunting Doomsday but we never got a scene of them doing that. At least I got to see Parasite's powers, but thats the only good thing I could say about them. I'd rather the show not bring them all back if this was their idea of a formidable group. And please no more Bette.
Dr. Hamilton must be kept around. He doesn't pull conclusions out of his butt and he relies on his science. Most of all, he's not easily fooled and came through for Clark and the league when they needed his services. He doesn't need to be a everyday character, but I would like to see more of him next season. He's a good ally for Clark.
Oliver was on fire this episode. He flirts it up with Tess even when he's secretly scheming behind her back, he kicked Parasite's butt, and he got the black-K and came up with the great idea of losing his pants for Tess. OK OK, I know I've mentioned pants a lot in this review, but come on! The show was doing it too. Back to Oliver. Although I still think it was silly for him to confess murdering Lex to Clark, it seemed like something he had been wanting to get off his chest for a while. So if it helps his conscious, go for it. I forsee ramifications for that though.
How's that plan of fleeing with Davis looking now, Chloe? Somehow Doomsday got out and he killed a person. Thats on her shoulders. Again, that plan is insanity and was never going to work.
Tess.. I give up on her. She killed 3 members of her team just because they disagreed with her. She stole kryptonian crystals just to force Clark and Davis into a fight with only death as the way for it to end. Clark is now screwed and his plan failed before it could start. Luckily she didn't find out about the black-K or else she would have taken that too. Tess is a lunatic that deserves whatever happens to her in the last episode. She is going to get Clark and many other people killed. And for what? Because a voice from a crystal is proclaiming her to be a savior of Kandor? How does she know that the crystal isn't lying to her? This "prophecy" she's been talking about since Eternal is nonsense and this voice has been manipulating her for who knows how long. This could have been going on since Odyssey. And here I was thinking that she was cult follower of Clark. Instead she's a wacko who does the bidding of a voice from the orb.
I wanted to take a moment and talk about the Clark and Ollie friendship, specifically the implications of their argument. First let me say that I think Clark is right to do everything he can to avoid doing something immoral, and that he was right that heroes are suppose to set an example. I got no problem with any of this. But here's where I do have a problem: Out of Chloe, Tess, and Oliver.. Oliver is the least guilty party and deserves the most slack. Chloe and Tess have purposely sabotaged his efforts at getting rid of Davis for months. Oliver has done nothing of the sort. Oliver wants Davis dead, but would have no problem with him being sent to the PZ either. Whatever plan Clark had for stopping Davis.. as long as Davis was actually stopped, Oliver won't mind.
Oliver didn't mess with his crystals.. Chloe and Tess did. Oliver didn't go to the FOS and prevent him from doing his job.. Chloe did. Oliver doesn't want him to die in battle with Doomsday.. Tess does. Oliver actually admitted his wrong doing.. Chloe and Tess have not! I can go on but you get my point. So why is it he's so pissed at Oliver but Chloe is this innocent hostage to him? Why doesn't he say the things he said to Oliver to her? Who is harming Clark more here? Fine, Oliver killed Lex.. but Tess has killed hundreds and Chloe is an accomplice to many more and has actually killed once although Clark doesn't know about it.
My point - Tess and Chloe have done FAR worse and that they are the ones who deserve the tongue lashing the most. I want Clark to be the same to everyone, to have the same morals for everyone, and to not excuse behavior from some. Chloe spat in his face and he treats her like she's an angel. Tess spat in his face and gloated about it and he still works for her and didn't lay a finger on her in the barn. Next week he has some decisions to make, and I hope that he lays the blame on ALL the guilty parties involved.
So.. solid episode. Didn't loved it, but it was a step up from Beast. Then again, so is cat litter. We're back on track in time for the finale. I'm giving it a 7 out of 10.
Next week: Ohhh baby!! Its the season finale of my reviews. I'm going to party like its 1999, fill my tub with green jello, and do the running man on the hood of my neighbor's car. The time HAS COME, my fellow fans. And I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
FlashInSV
05-10-2009, 06:52 AM
GREEN ARROW LOSES MIND, SHOOTS UP LEATHER CLOTHES FACTORY
by the Associated Press
Metropolis, Kansas-- In a bizarre turn of events, Smallville Justice League member Green Arrow became the suspect in an ongoing investigation after allegedly shooting up the Metropolis Leather Clothes Factory. Police received a call from a pestedrian outside the store after she was sprayed with mosquito repellent by the Smallville star. Owner Robb Wilson, 35, recalls the incident.
"I was rearranging the vests on aisle three when a very large man with sunblockers approached and asked me if our leather was domestic or foreign," recalled a terrified Wilson. "I joked and said 'That depends. Do you want chaps or sequins?' Thats when he took out his arrow and... oh God."
Daily Planet reporter Clark Kent, 22, was the only other witness on scene at the time of the incident. However when he saw reporters approaching he quickly drank a bottle of rubbing alcohol. Paramedics responded on scene immediately and rushed him to Metropolis General.
Authories on scene reportedly have no other leads at this time but was seen laughing and pointing at the outfits sold in the store. "You wasn't suppose to see that," said Detective John Jones of the Metropolis Police Department when approached about footage. "We're positive that we'll apprehend the suspect in a timely fashion. Please be advised that he is considered armed and dangerous. Should you spot the suspect, do not engage. Just holla somebody saveeee me. Ha ha, I'm kidding. No really I'm kidding."
While the Police believes this to be an isolated incident, the leather store recently came under scrutiny after a report surfaced about Mayor Thomas' recent purchases. "I - did not - buy - leather pants from that woman, Ms. Garcia." said a defiant Mayor Thomas two days before breaking down and confessing to popping Skittles the day of the purchase.
The Green Arrow's reign of terror began last Tuesday at a T-Mobile store in San Antonio, Texas. Cellular customer Ronald Jenkins recalls the whole story in horror.
"I had just signed up for T-Mobile cell phone service," Jenkins quivered. "Just as I was about to sign the contract, this weird music blared over the intercom. Suddenly this weird dude with sunglasses ran up to me. I'll never forget his face. He had this upturned lip, like Elvis, ya know? Anyway, he told me that he was taking my cell phone because he needed to finish business with some guy named Lex. Before I could answer, he shot me in the buttocks and ran out with my phone. It was so horrible. He tucked his shirt into his plastic utility belt. I'm still having nightmares."
Jenkins's story is nothing new to police in Metropolis, who have been on the look out for Green Arrow since this initial attack.
"We can't do anything to him for taking the phone. Legally, that's his. We want to question him about wearing leather in the summer," explained Police Chief Scott Nash. "This isn't the only complaint against the Green Arrow. He has pulled this [explective] before. In the last week, he has ambushed various cosumers. In the process, he has taken three leased cars, stolen two cell phones, reserved nine motel rooms, ordered eleven cable boxes, made himself the groom in six weddings, and the bride in four others. This guy's insane."
The police took a sketch report on scene but the drawing turned out to be former WB frog Michigan J with sunglasses.
Copyright 2009 by the Associated Press
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Okay. This. Is. Out. Of. This. World. :rotfl: (I have no idea why I'm talking like a terminator robot)
We open on the moon that time forgot. At the Daily Planet Tess is leaving her office while telling someone on the phone to slow down and wait for the "team". Unbeknownst to her, Clark is standing by the elevator smirking like he did something evil to the air vents.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Auto shop. Oh come on. The only member of the Injustice League over 18 is laid out, dead. This League isn't Gossip Girls, Dawn.
You are killing me! I wish my reviews were a third as good as yours.
Clark gets a call from Dr. Hamilton. Doomsday snuck out of the hotel again.
Emil...Emil... Tell me. Tell me.
Tell ya what, Clark?
Tell me you love my hair more than Oliver's.
Geez almighty. I'm not having this weird conversation with you again.
WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME?!
How, just HOW do you come up with this stuff??!!
Commercial Break. Starburst - Isn't Life Juicy? If by "juicy," you mean "full of bills and not enough sleep," then yes. Life is really juicy.
True. So true.
"Where the hell are your pants?" - Tess to Oliver Queen, enough said, 7:43 PM.
Don't you just love it when you're asked that question? Ahh memories, memories.
:rotfl: My second favourite line in this episode.
Next week: Ohhh baby!! Its the season finale of my reviews. I'm going to party like its 1999, fill my tub with green jello, and do the running man on the hood of my neighbor's car. The time HAS COME, my fellow fans. And I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
I have a feeling I'll enjoy your review WAY more than I'll enjoy the actual episode.;) :D
NoSupeForYou
05-10-2009, 07:12 AM
Great review Cedric. I think Parasite must have absorbed the ability to suck as a team from the Lions (Unfortunately, I'm a long-time fan of theirs), because the Injustice League sucked.
Sorry to say, but you'll never see Clark call Chloe out for her bad decisions because she is the new Lana. All she does now is just and holy, and above any criticism from the other characters.
Bizarrolover
05-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Great review, Cedric! Though I don't think this episode deserved a 7. I thought it was a very bad filler and it was a complete waste to bring the IL if they were going to kill two members right from the start and having them not acting like the Injustice league at all. They used them as a plot device to bring a fake Chloe when they could have been introduced her without missusing the IL. In fact, it would have been more interesting if they came up with some Tina Greer cells tranfusion to metamorphose Ava, just like they used Moira's spinal fluid to inject Chloe and Oliver in Odyssey. But no, they had these kids arguing all the time about Tess being good or bad and fighting against each other like adolescents when we could have seen a really evil badass team going after Clark.
LoveHurts38
05-10-2009, 10:49 AM
As always waiting for your review ....Thanks Cedric.
Jaderoyale
05-10-2009, 11:19 AM
Cedric great review as usual. I can only think what you're going to do next week :lol:
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Its SUNDAY. Yes, i am late with this review. In fact, i only watched Injustice about 3 hours ago. -slaps self-. The joys of finally finishing uni mean a nice little ball and alcohol and... -shudders-
I've really only just recovered, at least i think i have. My eyes are killing me. But alas, i must soldier on with the review. Its what i'm here for.
Right. Injustice. Tom Wellings 4th directed episode. -gawps-. 4TH EPISODE! Man, hes been directing an episode a season since season 5. Remember season 5? Me niether, i blocked it from my memory when i could see Lexana surfacing -more shuddering-
Now this episode, as i gather it, has Chloe returning after running away with our lovely murderer Davis, Tess Injustice League, including Plastique, who i wanted to throttle in the episode of the same name. There is no Lois -tuts- or Jimmy. Is there Jimmy? I dunno. I know Olivers there. I'm still on the fence about you buddy, you've gone the wrong way this season -shakes head in dismay-
Usually i would wonder what kind of drink i need before an episode when i feel weird about it (even though Tom is directing i feel skeptical), but i literally can never look at alcohol again. So coffee it is. Why am i feeling really weird about this episode? I enjoyed Beast, so i should be fine...
Come on Tom. Do me proud.
Previously on Smallville...
Tess and Oliver fought like ninjas with wooden sticks and Oliver proceeded to scratch Tess' "itch". Bette murdered her friend Tommy and Tess jumped at the chance to "recruit" her. Oliver killed 'Lex'. Tess was sent the orb, by who, we don't know. Then Chloe confused us all for an entire episode and left Smallville with a murderer.
We begin with the Daily Planet. Tess on the phone, ah, i can't remember when i last saw her in this place. Turbulence? I don't know. She turns round and theres Clark. LOOK AT THAT JACKET. Oh my. -fans self- Open door policy... alien jesus. Ahaha, gosh Clark. Sarcasm, i love it. Tess finds this hilarious, i must admit i do too. Not as much as Clarks serious face though. Chin up Clark, its not our fault Lois isn't in this episode.
Apparently Tess has been making Davis Bloome front page news everyday. Clark is not impressed and Tess has gone on with the preaching. STOP HIM. Yes Clark knows that. If i remember correctly, he went to and was stopped -sigh-.
Tess Mercer; We both know that Davis Bloome isn't a man. He's a beast
What really baffles me is that EVERY character knows Davis is Doomsday. Except for Lois. SORT IT OUT. Tess is freaking me out. Shes going all Clark stalker again. Clark like usual is trying to throw her off the case. Tess isn't even looking at Clark while she's talking now and its freaking me out a little bit.
Tess Mercer; The pure and virtuous Clark Kent can't face what he'll have to do
Well no. Can you blame him? Its called murder. He's not Oliver. Or you. Has Tess killed anyone? Did she kill that man in Toxic? She did didn't she? Tess walks off and Clark has a bit of superhearing, where he can hear.... Chloe. Oh great. And he actually superspeeds off behind Tess and she knows that he's done it. I think its fair to say that Clark really knows that Tess knows his secret, she seemed pretty happy that he just supersped off. Lets not forget she was just on the phone to someone. Member of the Injustice League i wager.
Chloe running in what i can only describe as the MOST HILARIOUS way i have ever seen a character run on Smallville in 8 years. She falls over and we see that shes all grubby. Shame. She stops in front of a truck ready to get run over and Clark superspeeds and carries her off the road while shes kicking. I would NOT be kicking if Tom Welling was carrying me, i can tell you that much. Clark tells her its going to be okay, its not but whatever. Besides, that isn't Chloe. I just know it isn't. I understand that Chloe would be all weird and everything after being with Davis, but whatever. I'm pretty sharp on the mark and that is NOT Chloe. I'm going to call her FakeChloe all episode unless i'm prooved wrong.
And we're shown a girl with green light. I can't remember who she is. And theres Bette. Whoa. 18 episodes have really made a difference to her haven't they?
Opening credits. I've got another cup of coffee. I'm starting to get the shakes from my entire ball event. Its catching up with me after two days. Not impressed. I wonder if Justin will be fully clothed this episode... yes Oliver has angered me of lately, but i am female.I enjoy shirtless Oliver.
LIVEWIRE! Sorry. Remembered who the girl was then. Sorry. Haha. I never believed that alcohol made you loose braincells, i was obviously wrong not to believe.
Kent farm. A shot of Clarks crotch and i have forgotten exactly whats going on. Did you choose that shot on purpose Tom?
FakeChloes sitting on the settee and Clark says he understands if she doesn't want to talk about it. So do we, yet off she goes.
FakeChloe Sullivan; He never left me alone
ARE YOU SUPRISED? Honestly. You are like his security blanket. Clark says shes safe now and she says no, grabbing his hands, which makes me shudder a little bit. I don't know why. DIRECTED BY TOM WELLING!! Sorry, that made me really excited. I'm going to make an icon with that. Onto the whole noones safe until Clark destroys him. Yes we've known that all season. Must Clark be reminded by every character every episode until next week?
WHOA. Whos dead?! In pops Tess, dishing out the anger. She trained them as a team. Well, i guess we know where Tess has been when shes not in an episode. Training her League. Livewire and Neutron found the monster and by the time Bette and Parasite showed up things had gotten... messy. We can see that. Livewire wants out and i can't say i blame her. You see someone get killed by Doomsday its bound to be rough, we've seen the leftovers. Tess tells her she can't walk away from saving lives and Livewire says watch me. She looks at Parasite, who i must say, is rather dodgy looking isn't he? And he steals her powers. WHAT.
Livewire; So what are you gonna do with me now?
Oh i can only guess. And if its what i think it is, i am NOT going to be happy.
Lutheencorp. I can't call it Luthorcorp, i'm sorry. Its merged now. Clark looking at photos. Oliver in a suit. Look how well dressed they are. A mention of Cyborg, Impulse (YAY!) and Canary. Shame Cyborg won't be in the finale, but i'll settle for a mention. Oliver asks how Chloe is and i prey that Clark doesn't start a guilt trip. He does. I get angry.
Clark Kent; Davis may not be as invincible as we thought. But i can't do it alone
I'm intruiged. Whats led Clark to think Davis isn't that invinvible? Olivers in, Clark says good, because they need the help of Lex Luthor. Oliver looks like hes going to wet himself. I bet in his head he's screaming "I KILLED HIM CLAAAARRRRK!". Gosh i want Clark to find out that fact.
Clark mentions that everything Lex has was left to Tess and... Black Kryptonite. Well. WELL THEN.-rubs hands slightly- The fact that Clark has thought of this; ON HIS OWN, has made me happy. Clark needs Oliver to steal it.
Oliver Queen; Well its been a while, but i could probably find my way into the ice queens vault
Right. The sexual undertones in that sentence were RIDICULOUS. -wets self laughing-
Nice moment between Clark and Oliver when Clark says he knew he could count on him. Oliver says its never going to change. Until next week i guess -eye twitches-
Clark; We have to kill Davis Bloome
I'm dizzy from the 180degree U-Turn.
Kent farm. Oh look, Clarks little secret storage trap door. Is that the PZ crystal or blue kryptonite? -gets confused-. CLARIFY THINGS PS3. Clark has said hes going to save Davis and now i i'm more sure this isn't Chloe, because she looks horrified. Clark states that he didn't know if Oliver would help him if he told him the truth. Which is the fact that Clark is going to use Black Kryptonite to seperate Davis from Doomsday and send Doomsday to the PZ. -claps-
While Clark talks Chloe... sorry, FAKECHLOE simply stares into space, because lets face it; she isn't Chloe, she has no idea that actual Chloe is the one that made Clark think of seeing the good in Davis before he sent him to the PZ with Doomsday still attached to him. Clark gets a text from DR EMIL -hehehehe- saying that Doomsday has struck again. Boo hoo.
Into that abandoned builidng that the Injustice League were in. Mention of Jon Jonzz. I miss him. Man and a woman both dead. Well, Livewires dead as well then? Can't say i'm too thrilled about this.
Clark; Now we have supercharged bounty hunters on the case
Man, they have given Clark some lines this season haven't they? Livewire has been marked apparently, not killed the same way Neutron was. FakeChloe notes that someone was monitoring Livewire and starts to back away, lets guess. Whoever she really is, because thats not Chloe, shes working for Tess and shes being monitored as well. Emil notes that something else is going on with Chloe and that she came to him desperate to heal Davis. Clark did not know this. There there Clark. FAKECHLOE gets into her car and phones Ben... did she say Ben?
Another abandoned building, because thats where everyone meets these days. FakeChloe is obviously having a breakdown and says that Tess put the chip in Livewires head. Parasite and Plastique hail everything Tess has done and refuse to believe that she's done anything wrong to them as well. Boo hoo, how wrong you really are. They walk off vowing to finish the job leaving FakeChloe standing behind watching after them in saddness. ALL ALONE.
Daily Planet; Tess listening to FakeChloe on the phone. They are tagged. In pops Oliver with champagne. Oh Oliver, how transparent are you? Little bit of fruity banter between Tess and Oliver. I must admit the two have chemistry. I really like Tess' hair like that. More banter going on, where its all carbon footprint and all that. So thats what Lutheencorp are doing? Attempting to save the planet from global warming.
Oliver; Well i remember when the only sheets that separeted us were made of silk
-shakes head in disbelief-
Tess counters Olivers comment and basically kicks him where it really hurts. She could do without him. Girl power and all that. Oliver does NOT take the hint and is sidling up to Tess. STAND YOUR GROUND TESS. DO NOT GIVE IN. Even if he does take his shirt off. I can see her giving in i really can.
Oliver; I was thinking we could just take the afternoon off and... pop the cork
OH SWEET LORD. What is with Oliver and his sexual innuendos in this episode? Tess tells him to keep his cork in his pants. Oliver says its her loss and walks out. Hes in the lift where he scans the bottle to reveal a fingerprint of Tess'. Oh Oliver, you sneaky thing you. Though, i don't believe all that banter was fake.
Back at Olivers office, i assume and FakeChloe is riffling through all the sheets Oliver and Clark have on Doomsday. Sound of wind and in pops Clark. He tells FakeChloe he already has reason not to trust Oliver -sighs with relief-, but now he feels he can't trust her. When could you this season Clark? Be honest now. She lied about her Brainiac condition and about harbouring Davis. What more do you need? FakeChloe says shes been lying to him ever since she got back. SUPRISE SUPRISE. She says that she used the Isis mainframe to get info on the people Tess had gathered and Tess' assisstant... Ava Greer. Hang on. Is she releated to Tina? OH! Thats who FakeChloe is isn't it? Just like that FakeChloe has some sort of seizure as the thing in her brain has obviously been set off. Clark thinks actual Chloe is dead, then theres light and its Ava. I KNEW IT!!! So wheres Chloe then!?
In pops Emil and Clark is angry that he didn't see through Ava's disguise. Just like Lana didn't see through his with Bizarro. I'll be sticking up for CLARK in this argument.
- Ava/Chloe was very much like the actual Chloe. She knew EVERYTHING about Clark; she said really what he thought he should hear from Chloe, that Doomsday should be destroyed. I can honestly understand in this case why Clark didn't tell the difference. He was catching on when she left him at the building. Ava was a shapeshifter, it was her job to fool him. Posing as his best friend who's run away with a murderer is catching Clark when he NEEDS to see Chloe.
In the case of Lana and Bizarro, all Lana wanted was love and trust and because Bizarro gave that to her, she didn't even question it; leas of all why "Clarks" worries of having sex with his powers had gone -
And my argument is correct as Emil states she was a shapeshifter, catching him at his most vunerable by posing as his best friend. Clark puts two and two together and says that its Tess who did this to her. Well done Clark. Emil crouches on the floor and says that the real Chloe could get caught in the crossfire if they're looking for Doomsday. Emil makes a good point, if Clark confronts Tess she could hit the wire and kill the rest of her "team". I like Emil. And so i should. Clark becomes a bit of a fool and says if he finds Tess' people he can find Chloe. To be honest Clark, you should be finding Davis, not Chloe. Then again wherever Chloe is, Davis will be. Emil nods and Clark has a bit of a nostril flare.
Downtown, night time. Plastique on the phone to Ava, who unknown to her right now, is dead. She puts the phone down and in pops Clark. She nearly blows him up. Clark tells Plastique... okay, Bette, that Tess isn't the person she thinks she is. According to Bette, Clark is lying. So he whips out his tracking device. What, no flash of the abs this episode? Bette starts to go a little angsty and wants to kill Tess. She used a swear word -gasp-.
Bette; You don't have the power to stop us
And in pops Parasite. -swears-
Well we knew that was going to happen didn't we? Still doesn't stop me from being slightly angry. Must Clark always loose his powers?
Luthor mansion. Bodyguard says all is secure and we see Green Arrow like, clinging to the ceiling for dear life. He drops to the floor and knocks out the bodyguard. Whys he gone into Tess' bedroom? Is he going to a Davis and hold locks of her hair from her hairbrush? Instead he finds the bolt, well concealed behind a cabinet. The door opens and i feel reminiscent. Its just like when Lex used to open his vault and reveal all his trinkets to the world. He spots the blakc krytponite and picks it up and a door opens and closes. Tess goes into her room after having her words with her bodyguards and begins to underdress herself in front of the mirror on her cabinet and we see, Oliver. In her bed. Topless. THANK YOU PS3.
But ahahahahaha. Oliver. You are just hilarious. He just stole black kryptonite and jumped into her bed. Tess tells Oliver to leave and he says okay, getting out of the bed and standing in front of her. Tess' eyes go down and i am wetting myself laughing.
Tess; Where the hell are your pants?
Does it matter?! Oliver is reminiscing once more and stepping towards Tess. I know yes, that Justin probably has boxers on but i can't help but find this absolutely hilarious. Oliver wants to start over and Tess says its too late. Just as her window explodes. Olivers passed out on the floor naked, again, i am laughing. According to Parasite, thanks to Livewires powers he terminated the chips in Bette and his brains. And now i remember why i didn't like Bette. Its her voice. It grates me. Parasite punches Tess unconcious, at least thats what i assume he's done.
Back at Isis, Emil is on the phone to Clark. Clark is powerless and needs to get to Smallville. Emil asks him if hes "there" yet. I have no idea where, there is. Clark follows Emils instructions and leads him to a lambourghini -laughs-
Oh dear. Like Kit from Knight Rider the car turns on itself. Oh this is so great. Get in Clark, MAKE LIKE KAL AND GET IN!
Back at the mansion and Tess is tied to a chair. Where Parasite decides to shock her, asking her if shes in pain. No duh. Bette wants all the information on the inmates from Black Creek as they're going to "reach out to them". I tell you, if Parasite reached out to me i'd run a mile. He's creepy. Bette holdsa samuari sword to Tess and Clark pops in. Yes Parasite, it is gutsy with no power. Thats Clark for you. Bette annoys me with her voice once more and i'm glad that Oliver appears in his Green Arrow gear and shoots her in the shoulder with an arrow. He lands on the floor and... OH. THE RING IS ON IS FINGER. Clark just looks on as Green Arrow has some sort of superpower surge and lifts Parasite into the air like hes as light as a feather and drops him on the pool table.
Green Arrow then goes a little insane and begins punching Parasites lights out. He grabs a snooker ball, for what?! And Clark tells him to stop, ever the voice of reason. Parasite tells Clark to kill him and Clark says he can stop the pain, just give him his powers back. So he does. Clark turns round to see Oliver carrying Tess out of the room. And if LOOKS COULD KILL. Oliver would have dropped to the ground.
Back to Lutheencorp. Oliver puts the Black K into a box and Clark walks in. Now, i can see this going somewhere good. Oliver says the "teens" are locked away where Tess can't get to them and talk goes to the ring.
Clark; You know that ring would kill me, why would you make something like that?
ITS NOT HIS CLARK. Tell him Oliver. AND HE HAS. Oh heavens.
Oliver; I took the ring. After i took Lex Luthors life
-waves arms madly-
The way he said that. Oh. Oh heavens. Clark looks horrified and Oliver has the decency to look ashamed for a second. But only a second! He's off on his Lex would have killed you tangent again. Oh, just look at Clarks face. Its so unreadable. He tells Oliver he can take it from here.
Oliver; We're still on the same side.
Clark; No we're not
It gets juicy. Oliver realises that Clark isn't going to use the Black K to kill Davis. Of course, Oliver doesn't agree with this and says that Clark lied to him. But Clarks right, he told Oliver what he WANTED to hear for he Black K. He had no idea what the Black K actually does, so i'm pretty happy with Clark right now. And finally, Clark gives Oliver a good talking to.
Oliver; I'm not your enemy Clark.
Clark; Then who are you?
Oliver can't even answer that and Clark walks off. Oliver just watches him go, because lets face it. He's lost a friend. Best scene, of the episode by far.
Kent farm. BLACK SHIRT!!! I only just noticed Clarks in a black shirt. -sigh-
Opens up the little trap door to open the PZ crystal, which has gone. And there appears Tess. Its fair to say, that yes, Tess knows Clarks secret now. Great. Just Lois who doesn't now eh? Tess tries to talk herself out of the murders, saying that it was all under Lex's watch at Black Creek. If thats so, then does Chloe have one? Clark asks where the crystal is and Tess says she had it destroyed so Clark has no choice but to kill the beast. Oh Tess, HE CAN'T KILL DOOMSDAY. Though i hate to say this, one thing Tess has said is right.
Tess; You can't tell me that noone has escaped from this Phantom Zone
Clark falters for a second. Before telling Tess it isn't her battle. He calls her delusional and i laugh heartily. Clark lays the smackdown on Tess.
Clark; I was beginning to think you were different from Lex. I was wrong
Tess looks upset by this for a second before saying that the difference was that Lex turned his back on Clark. but she still believes. Yes, the world would be a better place. Again Clark lays the smackdown and says shes lost sight of who she really is and asks her why she wants to see Davis Bloome die. Tess says its simple, that an entire civilisation depends on it. She walks off leaving Clark with his thoughts.
Luthor mansion. So many visits here for one episode. Feels like the old days. Tess walks round the corner and i can hear whispering. Because there is glowing coming from the main room. This cannot be good. Like an idiot Tess goes in, i would have ran the hell out of there. The orb is glowing. THIS. CANNOT. BE. GOOD. The orb asks, yes thats right, it asks, if Kal-El is ready to fullfill the prophecy, she says she did as the orb asked, the crystal has been destroyed. The light from the orb gets bigger, surrounds Tess and calls her the saviour of Kandor. I can only stare in utter horror.
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All in all. Hmmmm.
Clark was fabulous, then again, this was writen by Al Septien & Turi Meyer. They always make Clark good in the episodes they write and its what we need. My favourite scene of his, was his scene with Oliver towwards the end, because he STOOD HIS GROUND. He gave Oliver a good talking to for once and i am so happy. Its been 2 seasons coming since hes known Oliver and finally he did it. I could not be happier. Not to mention that magnificent black coat.
The Injustice League... hmmmm, i was let down by them. I cannot stand Bette for one, so i wish that instead of killing Ava or Livewire, Tess killed her. Parasites powers were cool, for what we saw of them, but that was it. There should have been alot more shown of them hunting Doomsday, considering thats what they were meant to be doing and we didn't even see it.
Oliver. Ahahahaha. I'm sorry, he was DESPERATE for some this episode and i gotta laugh at him for it. He was all over Tess and it was hilarious. Plus PS3 granted my wish and finally gave me some topless Justin. -exhalts-
I like that he actually told Clark he killed Lex, i think it was weighing on him for a while and that maybe he hoped Clark would understand. How wrong he really was there. But still, at least he got it out in the open for once.
Tess, meh. She killed some of her team, shes still preaching Clark as jesus or whatever. I think shes a gonna. Shame because i do like Cassidy. She stole Clarks PZ crystal and has technically brought the whole Doomsday fiasco even worse. This is ALL on Tess and Chloe now. Chloe has basically got Davis USED TO HER so much that if she leaves for a second Doomsday comes out, so thats ruined everything for Clark. And now Tess has stolen the means for the GOOD PLAN Clark actually had. Bringing all the destruction down onto the city. Not Clarks fault like she was trying to say, HERS.
-sighs-
It seems now, that really, that Doomsdays party is going to be really, Chloe and Tess' fault. Let us remember; Chloe made Davis invunerable to Kryptonite, its her fault he can't die. And now Tess, well shes gone insane and has listened to a voice from the orb. Heavens knows, but the only sane female on this show now seems to be Lois. DO NOT. DESTROY HER FOR US PS3. I mean it.
Tom did good in his directing. The episode was alot darker than what hes directed previously and he has prooved that he can withstand the pressures of directing a penultimate episode, i honestly felt like i was watching something directed by James Marhshall, thats how good it was, the directing, not the episode. It was no Apocalypse, but it was good.
8/10.
I was bored in some parts, but meh. Same score as Beast i think. Oh well.
Next wee; DOOMSDAY.
My Bart finally returns -points to avitar and bounces-
Someones gonna die. Fear. Yet such, such excitment. Make it good PS3. Make it good.
ClLaLeChFAN01
05-10-2009, 11:26 AM
[QUOTE=Fallen One;4823953]I wanted to take a moment and talk about the Clark and Ollie friendship, specifically the implications of their argument. First let me say that I think Clark is right to do everything he can to avoid doing something immoral, and that he was right that heroes are suppose to set an example. I got no problem with any of this. But here's where I do have a problem: Out of Chloe, Tess, and Oliver.. Oliver is the least guilty party and deserves the most slack. Chloe and Tess have purposely sabotaged his efforts at getting rid of Davis for months. Oliver has done nothing of the sort. Oliver wants Davis dead, but would have no problem with him being sent to the PZ either. Whatever plan Clark had for stopping Davis.. as long as Davis was actually stopped, Oliver won't mind.
Oliver didn't mess with his crystals.:rotfl: Chloe and Tess did. Oliver didn't go to the FOS and prevent him from doing his job.. Chloe did. Oliver doesn't want him to die in battle with Doomsday.. Tess does. Oliver actually admitted his wrong doing.. Chloe and Tess have not! Tess has killed hundreds and Chloe is an accomplice to many more and has actually killed once although Clark doesn't know about it.
My point - Tess and Chloe have done FAR worse and that they are the ones who deserve the tongue lashing the most. I want Clark to be the same to everyone, to have the same morals for everyone, and to not excuse behavior from some. Chloe spat in his face and he treats her like she's an angel. Tess spat in his face and gloated about it and he still works for her and didn't lay a finger on her in the barn. Next week he has some decisions to make, and I hope that he lays the blame on ALL the guilty parties involved.
Fallen One...Great review, I enjoyed reading it! I agree with you on these 3 paragraphs that you wrote, especially the part highlighted in Blue. Oliver just wants Doomsday out of the way no matter what and he trust Clark that he is the only one that can get the job done! Or at least he did, we will see nest week on the season finale of Smallville!
At the end I didnt realize the man and woman was talking from the orb and I still can becasue my Tv is OLD and it sucks! Thank you for pointing that out!
I just hope they will never bring back Bette because she tries way too hard to be the bad guy! She should stick to blowing up things instead, she is pretty good at that!
I also hope they keep Clark on the track of standing up for himself...it is a great change after years of silence!!!
Good Job Tom on the directing! I had no problems with it!
Question?!?!?!? umm....I know that Clark burned out a GPS thing out of the real Chloe, but that was last seaon right? So the Real Chloe should have a bar code and a GPS thing in her because she spend some time at black creek...correct? So if I am right and they recieved it when they were in Black Creek....then they should be able to find Chloe and Doomsday if they put at the pieces together!
Aalliya
05-10-2009, 12:02 PM
Didn't love it.. gave it a five... usually I'm glued to the TV - this episode had me in and out of the room doing other stuff...
FlashInSV
05-10-2009, 12:31 PM
Remember season 5? Me niether, i blocked it from my memory when i could see Lexana surfacing -more shuddering-
I hear ya.
Kent farm. A shot of Clarks crotch and i have forgotten exactly whats going on. Did you choose that shot on purpose Tom?
:rotfl: :rotfl: Someone should probably make a gif of that.
Ava Greer. Hang on. Is she releated to Tina?
It would make sense!
Tess goes into her room after having her words with her bodyguards and begins to underdress herself in front of the mirror on her cabinet and we see, Oliver. In her bed. Topless. THANK YOU PS3.
I second that! THANK YOU PS3!
Next week; DOOMSDAY.
My Bart finally returns -points to avitar and bounces-
WHOA! Hold it right there. What do you mean YOUR Bart???!! He's MINE! :lol: And I'm not sharing!
Tompouce
05-10-2009, 12:51 PM
[quote=Fallen One;4823953]
Auto shop. Hamilton picks a bone chip out of a caved wall as he tells Clark and Noe
Clark was good in this episode but again thats to be expected in any episode written by Al Septien & Turi Meyer. solid episode.. We're back on track in time for the finale.
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Thanks, Cédric. It helps me to make the summary of my thoughts:DClark was excellent (as always but he is more and more perfect:p)This episode was very good and give us the opportunity to be ready for the finale. I gave it a 9. I was totally focused on it wondering what would be coming next. And no one said a French word BUT there was advertising for French wines so I am happy and further more it was done by Tom Welling himself:pI add it to my little "French clues you can find in SV":D
LoveHurts38
05-10-2009, 01:06 PM
Jade good review.
Jaderoyale
05-10-2009, 02:22 PM
WHOA! Hold it right there. What do you mean YOUR Bart???!! He's MINE! :lol: And I'm not sharing!
I could perhaps make a custody sheet where we can somehow share him. I'm not giving him up without a fight :lol:
costas22
05-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Great review as usual Cedric. I have a different opinion about what will happen in the finale, but one way or another, i will be looking forward to your review. About the Oliver thing. I am not going to go into a debate about who has committed the most crimes, but Clark has high expectations from him. Higher than Chloe and Tess. And don't forget Cedric, that this is the guy who has constantly been in Clark's ear lecturing him about what it takes to be a hero since Season 6. So i would say that Clark needed to straighten him out because along the way he broke his own rules. Personally, i don't mind seeing that. But i was surprised like you that he didn't tear Tess' head off for what she did.
Tompouce
05-10-2009, 02:48 PM
I agree with Costas, Oliver is constantly preaching to Clark what would be good or bad,...For once, Clark was the one to tell Oliver what he deserves to hear. I was not happy because Oliver seemed to be hurt that Clark can treat him like an enemy but sometimes, it is good to hear that you go too far. Clark becomes more and more mature, he takes decisions and he tells people what he thinks. This man is my guy lol
Clark gets a call from Dr. Hamilton. Doomsday snuck out of the hotel again.
Emil...Emil... Tell me. Tell me.
Tell ya what, Clark?
Tell me you love my hair more than Oliver's.
Geez almighty. I'm not having this weird conversation with you again.
WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME?!
:rotfl:
Oh Cedric, without fail your reviews always, always crack me up!
Next week: Ohhh baby!! Its the season finale of my reviews. I'm going to party like its 1999, fill my tub with green jello, and do the running man on the hood of my neighbor's car. The time HAS COME, my fellow fans. And I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
Well whatever could you be referring to? I mean you've been so reserved on your predictions that it's so hard to tell what would make you green-jello-tub happy. :lol: :p
But yeah, only 4 more days until the finale! :eek::\
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:rotfl: :rotfl: Someone should probably make a gif of that.
Oh man, really? I must have missed that shot. Gif it, someone! Quick! :lol::p
newbaggy
05-10-2009, 03:24 PM
O.K., on the upside, Tom Welling as director did take the trouble to have the all-too-familiar regular sets shot differently, thus freshening-up the look of the show. And we can't really call this a filler, because we did get three developments that set things up for the finale: Clark is going to use black kryptonite to try and separate Davis from Doomsday, he now knows that Ollie killled Lex, and Tess is taking orders from the puple-orb-thingy. However, the rest of the episode was so boring that I could have quite happily waited a week and got this information from the "previously on Smallville" for Doomsday.
Essentially, Injustice was like a mediocre action movie - with the action taken out. Which was a bit of a problem: after all, an action movie audience might tolerate cardboard characters and a lame plot on the understanding that they would get the requesite thrills, spills and very big explosions. With Injustice, we got a bucketload of drab melodrama, empty and mechanical, with nothing interesting or entertaining to relieve the monotony. I have no idea why Tess' "Injustice" team was brought back in this episode: it was if the producers suddenly remembered that they had set up this idea, so they had better use it. However, since all that happened was that three of them got killed (two offscreen), two went rogue (presumably to return at some stage next season) and none of them was given a personality beyond a lot of shouting and scowling, what was the point? I have similar feelings regarding introducing Dr Emil Hamilton - a character who has been given absolutely no personality whatsoever. He comes on, delivers a load of expositional dialogue and goes away again. Well, "Q" did that in the Bond movies, but because the character was quirky, had real charm, and there was a sense of a genuine relationship with Bond, those scenes were likeable and fun. It wouldn't have taken much to make Hamilton interesting, but at the moment, he is a complete waste of screentime.
However, pretty much everything was a waste of screentime, basically because it was pretty clear by Eternal that the Chloe/Davis/Doomsday storyline could barely sustain two further episodes, let alone four-and-a-bit out of the last five. So, Eternal, Beast and Injustice have suffered from being 80% pure padding (Stilletto went back to the Clark/Lois/RBB storyline to do something useful in story terms whilst slowing down the Doomsday arc). At least next week, we actually reach the climax of the story, rather than keep stalling to meet the required number of episodes.
Violet-Shadow
05-10-2009, 04:00 PM
Dr. Hamilton must be kept around. He doesn't pull conclusions out of his butt and he relies on his science. Most of all, he's not easily fooled and came through for Clark and the league when they needed his services. He doesn't need to be a everyday character, but I would like to see more of him next season. He's a good ally for Clark.
As always, I loved your review, but two areas really stood out to me. First, the above quote. I think Dr. Hamilton has been a wonderful addition to the show. (So he's only really starred in three episodes but that's enough to see his awesomeness!) IA that he sould stick around for next season, as a recurring guest star. It was wonderful to see him and Clark working together.
I wanted to take a moment and talk about the Clark and Ollie friendship, specifically the implications of their argument. First let me say that I think Clark is right to do everything he can to avoid doing something immoral, and that he was right that heroes are suppose to set an example. I got no problem with any of this. But here's where I do have a problem: Out of Chloe, Tess, and Oliver.. Oliver is the least guilty party and deserves the most slack. Chloe and Tess have purposely sabotaged his efforts at getting rid of Davis for months. Oliver has done nothing of the sort. Oliver wants Davis dead, but would have no problem with him being sent to the PZ either. Whatever plan Clark had for stopping Davis.. as long as Davis was actually stopped, Oliver won't mind.
Oliver didn't mess with his crystals.. Chloe and Tess did. Oliver didn't go to the FOS and prevent him from doing his job.. Chloe did. Oliver doesn't want him to die in battle with Doomsday.. Tess does. Oliver actually admitted his wrong doing.. Chloe and Tess have not! I can go on but you get my point. So why is it he's so pissed at Oliver but Chloe is this innocent hostage to him? Why doesn't he say the things he said to Oliver to her? Who is harming Clark more here? Fine, Oliver killed Lex.. but Tess has killed hundreds and Chloe is an accomplice to many more and has actually killed once although Clark doesn't know about it.
My point - Tess and Chloe have done FAR worse and that they are the ones who deserve the tongue lashing the most. I want Clark to be the same to everyone, to have the same morals for everyone, and to not excuse behavior from some. Chloe spat in his face and he treats her like she's an angel. Tess spat in his face and gloated about it and he still works for her and didn't lay a finger on her in the barn. Next week he has some decisions to make, and I hope that he lays the blame on ALL the guilty parties involved.
This long quote was the second area that stood out to me. IA that Clark let's some people get away with things while lecturing others. *coughLanaChloecough* I don't want Clark to explode at Chloe for her actions or anything I just want him to see those actions without his Chloe-can-only-do-good glasses on. It would be nice to see him actually admit that Chloe has done wrong and call her out on it.
Next week: Ohhh baby!! Its the season finale of my reviews. I'm going to party like its 1999, fill my tub with green jello, and do the running man on the hood of my neighbor's car. The time HAS COME, my fellow fans. And I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
:lol: I have a feeling I know why you're so excited about next week. ;)
actaeon
05-10-2009, 06:41 PM
Fallen One:
I think Clark is right to do everything he can to avoid doing something immoral, and that he was right that heroes are suppose to set an example.I'm still waiting to see any kind of proof, or even the logic behind, the idea that it's Clark who is doing the moral thing, the upstanding thing, or the heroic or admirable thing. Clark has one preconceived moral position, Ollie has another. These opposed moral positions could be debated-- they could be, but aren't going to be on this show. Instead these two guys repeat the same line over and over, like a stuck record. As far as I can see, they're both only proving how stubborn they are, that they don't listen to anyone, and that they will neither of them ever strain their brains by employing reason.
Killing is always wrong? Really? It's better to let thousands die, to avoid killing one madman?
As for setting an example, what kind of example was Clark setting when he was willing to kill Lex? So why is Dooms any different? Where is the logic, where is the consistency, in the shifting sands of Clark's concept of ethics?
Seems to me that Clark is acting on impulse yet again, on a whim. He won't kill Dooms because... well... he just won't, that's all. Maybe it's because Chloe's against it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have a personal grudge against Dooms. In any case, his decision seems to have nothing to do with logic or any consistent moral principle.
So upon Clark's fickle whim hangs quite possibly the fate of civilization. And laughably, Clark has the nerve to chide Ollie about playing God. Look in a mirror, Clark.
As for heroes not killing: Achilles killed Hector, Odysseus killed the suitors, and David killed Goliath.
newbaggy:
Essentially, Infamous was like a mediocre action movie - with the action taken out.Perfect! I love it! The whole episode in a nutshell.
lm1212
05-10-2009, 07:56 PM
O.K., on the upside, Tom Welling as director did take the trouble to have the all-too-familiar regular sets shot differently, thus freshening-up the look of the show. And we can't really call this a filler, because we did get three developments that set things up for the finale: Clark is going to use black kryptonite to try and separate Davis from Doomsday, he now knows that Ollie killled Lex, and Tess is taking orders from the puple-orb-thingy. However, the rest of the episode was so boring that I could have quite happily waited a week and got this information from the "previously on Smallville" for Doomsday.
Essentially, Infamous was like a mediocre action movie - with the action taken out. Which was a bit of a problem: after all, an action movie audience might tolerate cardboard characters and a lame plot on the understanding that they would get the requesite thrills, spills and very big explosions. With Infamous, we got a bucketload of drab melodrama, empty and mechanical, with nothing interesting or entertaining to relieve the monotony. I have no idea why Tess' "Injustice" team was brought back in this episode: it was if the producers suddenly remembered that they had set up this idea, so they had better use it. However, since all that happened was that three of them got killed (two offscreen), two went rogue (presumably to return at some stage next season) and none of them was given a personality beyond a lot of shouting and scowling, what was the point? I have similar feelings regarding introducing Dr Emil Hamilton - a character who has been given absolutely no personality whatsoever. He comes on, delivers a load of expositional dialogue and goes away again. Well, "Q" did that in the Bond movies, but because the character was quirky, had real charm, and there was a sense of a genuine relationship with Bond, those scenes were likeable and fun. It wouldn't have taken much to make Hamilton interesting, but at the moment, he is a complete waste of screentime.
However, pretty much everything was a waste of screentime, basically because it was pretty clear by Eternal that the Chloe/Davis/Doomsday storyline could barely sustain two further episodes, let alone four-and-a-bit out of the last five. So, Eternal, Beast and Injustice have suffered from being 80% pure padding (Stilletto went back to the Clark/Lois/RBB storyline to do something useful in story terms whilst slowing down the Doomsday arc). At least next week, we actually reach the climax of the story, rather than keep stalling to meet the required number of episodes.
This episode was called Injustice :)
Bizarrolover
05-11-2009, 05:48 AM
Killing is always wrong? Really? It's better to let thousands die, to avoid killing one madman?
As for setting an example, what kind of example was Clark setting when he was willing to kill Lex? So why is Dooms any different? Where is the logic, where is the consistency, in the shifting sands of Clark's concept of ethics?
Killing doomsday is not just wrong, it's pointless. he'll come back to life a few hours later. For once, Clark was doing the right thing when he tried to send him to the Phantom zone, but someone stopped him and then someone else destroyed the crystal that could do that. So now the only possible way of getting rid of Doomsday was ruined by two humans that should have minded their own business. Doomsday is Clark's problem, not Chloe's or Tess's .
Cedric is right. Ollie wants Doomy dead because he doesn't know the monster can't be really killed. Ollie would be OK if Doomy is tied up to a rocket and ejected out of the planet or sent to the PZ. Ollie would be OK if Doomy is sent anywhere else but Earth.
Clark was never close of killing Lex. He thoutht about it out of rage (Requiem) but I'm sure he would have stopped the moment he had Lex in front of him. Clark doesn't kill and I applaud him for that.
I don't justify killing one to save many for one simple reason: I will never be able to pull that trigger and take someone's life, so I'll never ask anyone else to do it.
cma_454
05-11-2009, 06:03 AM
I don't justify killing one to save many for one simple reason: I will never be able to pull that trigger and take someone's life, so I'll never ask anyone else to do it.
Understandable.
Still, there's no way I'd consider someone a hero (let alone a superhero) who'd let thousands die just to spare his or her own conscience. YMMV
newbaggy
05-11-2009, 06:16 AM
This episode was called Injustice :)
Oops, sorry! I've corrected my original post.
Bizarrolover
05-11-2009, 07:44 AM
Understandable.
Still, there's no way I'd consider someone a hero (let alone a superhero) who'd let thousands die just to spare his or her own conscience. YMMV
I understand your point of view, but until now, there weren't thousands in danger in Smallville. Clark didn't 'let' anyone die trying to preserve Davis' or Lex's life. When he found Davis, he did the right thing, and that is trying to send him to the PZ, a place created to contain monsters like Davis/Doomsday. Lex is/was dangerous, but saying that he should be killed to prevent the death of thousands (if we take into consideration his vision in Hourglass) is just speculation. We can't be sure it's going to happen and neither are Ollie nor Clark so I understand if Clark doesn't want to kill him 'just in case'.
I think it's very easy to judge when we know the ending. But the characters don't. And I completely agree with not killing based in an asumption, because sometimes assumptions can be wrong.
cma_454
05-11-2009, 08:19 AM
I understand your point of view, but until now, there weren't thousands in danger in Smallville. Clark didn't 'let' anyone die trying to preserve Davis' or Lex's life. When he found Davis, he did the right thing, and that is trying to send him to the PZ, a place created to contain monsters like Davis/Doomsday. Lex is/was dangerous, but saying that he should be killed to prevent the death of thousands (if we take into consideration his vision in Hourglass) is just speculation. We can't be sure it's going to happen and neither are Ollie nor Clark so I understand if Clark doesn't want to kill him 'just in case'.
I think it's very easy to judge when we know the ending. But the characters don't. And I completely agree with not killing based in an asumption, because sometimes assumptions can be wrong.
Actually, I was also thinking of Clark's refusal to use the Kryptonian knife on Lex (despite Jor-El's warnings), allowing the death and destruction caused by Zod. True, Clark eventually saved Lex, but look at the cost to innocent victims.
The case can be made that Clark didn't know what Zod would do (even though Jor-El told him). The case could also be made that Clark doesn't know what Doomsday will do (again despite warnings).
Then again, the case could also be made that Clark should have known.
Despite the fact that Smallville’s Clark sometimes seems to be a BDA, Superman is supposed to be super intelligent. I believe (hope) that the Smallville version is, as well. It’s just that, like many otherwise intelligent humans, his intellect is overcome by his emotions. If you’re ruled by your emotions, your intelligence is often irrelevant.
I credit Clark with good intentions, and for his compassion. However, I find no nobility in extending compassion to people he’s close to, when it causes harm to others.
Ultimately, Clark’s refusal to kill Lex (when he was the vessel of Zod) lead to widespread death and destruction. And not just when he was possessed by Zod, but look at all the people Lex had murdered afterwards.
I think his actions with Doomsday are even worse. Refusal to kill Doomsday is no big deal (since he can’t be killed anyways). But, allowing Chloe to stop him from sending Doomsday to the Phantom Zone is (IMHO) the biggest mistake Clark has made on Smallville. Placing thousands at risk, allowing a mass murdering monster to remain at large, just so he wouldn’t feel bad (or to avoid angering Chloe)? I not only consider that not the action of a hero, but consider it the action of a coward.
Compassion is good, but not if showing compassion to the few causes harm to the many.
This Clark will never (in my mind) be Superman until he learns to temper his emotions with his intelligence. Avoiding killing (if at all possible), is good. But, if he can’t even send Doomsday to the Phantom Zone because of his emotions…
Bizarrolover
05-11-2009, 08:47 AM
I think his actions with Doomsday are even worse. Refusal to kill Doomsday is no big deal (since he can’t be killed anyways). But, allowing Chloe to stop him from sending Doomsday to the Phantom Zone is (IMHO) the biggest mistake Clark has made on Smallville. Placing thousands at risk, allowing a mass murdering monster to remain at large, just so he wouldn’t feel bad (or to avoid angering Chloe)? I not only consider that not the action of a hero, but consider it the action of a coward.
Compassion is good, but not if showing compassion to the few causes harm to the many.
This Clark will never (in my mind) be Superman until he learns to temper his emotions with his intelligence. Avoiding killing (if at all possible), is good. But, if he can’t even send Doomsday to the Phantom Zone because of his emotions…
I agree with you. Clark should have thrown Davis into the portal regardless what Chloe said. And for this mistake I blame both, Chloe for doing it (and throwing the guilt thing on him) and Clark for letting her do it. He has superspeed, for Rao's sake, he could have stopped her before she removed the crystal. But, apparently she has the same power over Clark than she has over Davis because she paralyzed him. That's why I thought the mind wipe as the right thing to do, because Chloe is completely out of control. The alien's best friend thing really went up to her head and she thinks she has the same right over Clark's kryptonian stuff than him. I don't mind them being BFFs, but Chloe has reached the point when she makes decisions that aren't hers to make.
bigteep
05-11-2009, 02:26 PM
Lois fell off the face of the earth again into some kind of abyss. I can't give a 10 to any episode without her in it.
mr lane
05-11-2009, 02:41 PM
Lois fell off the face of the earth again into some kind of abyss. I can't give a 10 to any episode without her in it.
:lol:
high five
ColdPlay3r
05-11-2009, 05:27 PM
meh
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tibbit78
05-11-2009, 06:27 PM
Killing doomsday is not just wrong, it's pointless. he'll come back to life a few hours later. For once, Clark was doing the right thing when he tried to send him to the Phantom zone, but someone stopped him and then someone else destroyed the crystal that could do that. So now the only possible way of getting rid of Doomsday was ruined by two humans that should have minded their own business. Doomsday is Clark's problem, not Chloe's or Tess's .
Cedric is right. Ollie wants Doomy dead because he doesn't know the monster can't be really killed. Ollie would be OK if Doomy is tied up to a rocket and ejected out of the planet or sent to the PZ. Ollie would be OK if Doomy is sent anywhere else but Earth.
Clark was never close of killing Lex. He thoutht about it out of rage (Requiem) but I'm sure he would have stopped the moment he had Lex in front of him. Clark doesn't kill and I applaud him for that.
I don't justify killing one to save many for one simple reason: I will never be able to pull that trigger and take someone's life, so I'll never ask anyone else to do it.
I loved your post Belen. I agree with everything you said. By the way, is Helen the English word for Belen? I'm just curious, because Belen & Helen sound the same to me.
La Donna
05-11-2009, 06:45 PM
The situation with Chloe reminds me of the situation with Lana. Clark says Chloe is doing the right thing, Chloe says she's doing the right thing, and the showrunners are saying she's doing the right thing. Yet, a large portion of the audience disagree. It reminds me of the Power and Requiem arc, and some of Lana's other story arcs. Clark saw Lana as innocent and a victim, Lana saw Lana as innocent and a victim, and the showrunners saw Lana innocent and the victim.
Now, I think Chloe is doing the right thing, and I don't think Lana was innocent and a victim (unless we're speaking of being a victim of bad writing, which she most definitely was). So, it may be weird that I'm pointing out this comparison between the two characters. But, I fully blame the writers for creating a plot and not using effective story telling to develop it. In their attempts to create drama, plot twists, and exciting reveals, they forget how the audience would view a character in light of how the audience already viewed them.
Meaning, if people already felt Lana was willing to do whatever it took to get what she wanted, than even though the writers saw her differently, they should have kept in mind the way a large portion of the audience saw her when devloping her arc to obtain the suit. The large portion of the audience that viewed her as self-serving saw the power arc as merely her attempt to gain more power, instead of her attempt to stop being a victim and do good in the world (which appears to be the writers true intent with the arc).
They should have accounted for what the audience seems to think of the characters. Some people won't agree with that and think the story needs to develop only with the writers intent in mind, but if you aren't aware of how your story is being received then you can't anticipate how the rest of the story is going to be received. They still have no idea why some people hated Lana. They refused to look at their writing and development and see if they could figure out why anyone would come to such a negative conclusion. I'm not saying they should have bowed to their audiences whims, but a story needs to make sense to the audience in order to succeed, and if a majority of the audience views the story opposite of your intent, then something is wrong.
Even though I personally think it's clear that what Chloe is doing is heroic, self-sacrificing, and meant to protect Clark (even though I see her as niave and too stressed out to really think her plan through), a large portion of the audience, including some of Chloe's fans, do not see her in such a light. They wanted the audience to wonder who she was really trying to save (up until the end of Beast when they revealed it), and in trying to create wonder, they gave enough ammunition to both sides to really prevent a clear cut explanation of why she's doing it. Why have her dream of kissing Davis if she really is only doing it for Clark? I think it was meant to keep the wonder in the audience at that point, but if they were going to end up telling us it's not for Davis, then how can we fully believe that when she's having dreams of kissing him? For those who think she's doing it for Davis, then why show her pulling the lever to kill Davis in Eternal when Clark was in danger? I think it was meant to make us wonder if she was doing it for Clark after all, but then why have her cry and and put her hand up on the glass?
Their attempts to create audience wonder ended up weakening their final case for what side Chloe was on.
NoSupeForYou
05-11-2009, 07:01 PM
The situation with Chloe reminds me of the situation with Lana. Clark says Chloe is doing the right thing, Chloe says she's doing the right thing, and the showrunners are saying she's doing the right thing. Yet, a large portion of the audience disagree. It reminds me of the Power and Requiem arc, and some of Lana's other story arcs. Clark saw Lana as innocent and a victim, Lana saw Lana as innocent and a victim, and the showrunners saw Lana innocent and the victim.
Now, I think Chloe is doing the right thing, and I don't think Lana was innocent and a victim (unless we're speaking of being a victim of bad writing, which she most definitely was). So, it may be weird that I'm pointing out this comparison between the two characters. But, I fully blame the writers for creating a plot and not using effective story telling to develop it. In their attempts to create drama, plot twists, and exciting reveals, they forget how the audience would view a character in light of how the audience already viewed them.
Meaning, if people already felt Lana was willing to do whatever it took to get what she wanted, than even thought the writers saw her differently, they should have kept in mind the way a large portion of the audience saw her when devloping her arc to obtain the suit. The large portion of the audience that viewed her as self-serving saw the power arc as merely her attempt to gain more power, instead of her attempt to stop being a victim and do good in the world (which appears to be the writers true intent with the arc).
They should have accounted for what the audience seems to think of the characters. Some people won't agree with that and think the story needs to develop only with the writers intent in mind, but if you aren't aware of how your story is being received then you can't anticipate how the rest of the story is going to be received. They still have no idea why some people hated Lana. They refused to look at their writing and development and see if they could figure out why anyone would come to such a negative conclusion. I'm not saying they should have bowed to their audiences whims, but a story needs to make sense to the audience in order to succeed, and if a majority of the audience views the story opposite of your intent, then something is wrong.
Even though I personally think it's clear that what Chloe is doing is heroic, self-sacrificing, and meant to protect Clark (even though I see her as niave and too stressed out to really think her plan through), a large portion of the audience, including some of Chloe's fans, do not see her in such a light. They wanted the audience to wonder who she was really trying to save (up until the end of Beast when they revealed it), and in trying to create wonder, they gave enough ammunition to both sides to really prevent a clear cut explanation of why she's doing it. Why have her dream of kissing Davis if she really is only doing it for Clark? I think it was meant to keep the wonder in the audience at that point, but if they were going to end up telling us it's not for Davis, then how can we fully believe that when she's having dreams of kissing him? For those who think she's doing it for Davis, then why show her pulling the lever to kill Davis in Eternal when Clark was in danger? I think it was meant to make us wonder if she was doing it for Clark after all, but then why have her cry and and put her hand up on the glass?
Their attempts to create audience wonder ended up weakening their final case for what side Chloe was on.
Well put. It's the George Lucas glasses that the writers wear.
Bizarrolover
05-11-2009, 07:10 PM
I loved your post Belen. I agree with everything you said. By the way, is Helen the English word for Belen? I'm just curious, because Belen & Helen sound the same to me.
Hi JoAnne!
Actually my name is accentuated in the last syllable, Belén (i was lazy when I creted my profile, I think I'm going to edit it) and it's Spanish for Bethlehem (the city). You are right, it sounds very much like Helen.
tibbit78
05-11-2009, 07:25 PM
Hi JoAnne!
Actually my name is accentuated in the last syllable, Belén (i was lazy when I creted my profile, I think I'm going to edit it) and it's Spanish for Bethlehem (the city). You are right, it sounds very much like Helen.
It's a nice name, Belen. I was a little disappointed in the episode, Injustice. I just wish that the writers, producers of Smallville would write better episodes for Smallville, like form Superboy into Superman for the 9th season. I hope the next episode won't be too disappointing at all.
I was disappointed in Injustice; I didn't like the script, and there wasn't Jimmy Olsen or Lois Lane in it. There was no Davis Bloome or Doomsday in it, either. I would have liked Injustice if all of the 7 casts were on it.
Night_Hawk90
05-11-2009, 08:56 PM
The thing that really annoys me about this show is the people who are self-appointed protectors and guardianship of Kal-el. First I had to deal with Lionel as the oracle doing what's best for clark by dying for him, than i had to deal with lana lang doning the promethesus suit and then poisons herself because its best for clark and his destiny. Than we have good ole chloe who takes it upon herself to protect clark from doomsday, oliver killing lex for clark and now Tess is taking it upon herself as telling clark as to what he shall do. When will people on this show give clark the benefit of the doubt. I just had to get this off my chest as it really annoys me how others take it upon themselves to make decisions in the name of protecting Clark.
tibbit78
05-11-2009, 09:07 PM
I feel the same way, Nighthawk. When will they write better scripts for Tom Welling, and turn Superboy into Superman? I hope they'll write better scripts in the 9th season for the future Superman.
WickedSusi
05-12-2009, 06:32 AM
I thought it was a good episode. Really loved the scene at the end with Tess and the orb and hearing about Kandor.
Wicked Lois
05-12-2009, 07:52 AM
This episode was really great. I loved everything about it. Specially Ollie!!! =]
Tess rocked also, and at the end I was glad that Chloe was a replicant. I'd be really pissed if she had just changed her mind about Doomie. Sneaky sneaky woman...
supercatmom
05-12-2009, 12:26 PM
Killing doomsday is not just wrong, it's pointless. he'll come back to life a few hours later. For once, Clark was doing the right thing when he tried to send him to the Phantom zone, but someone stopped him and then someone else destroyed the crystal that could do that. So now the only possible way of getting rid of Doomsday was ruined by two humans that should have minded their own business. Doomsday is Clark's problem, not Chloe's or Tess's .
Cedric is right. Ollie wants Doomy dead because he doesn't know the monster can't be really killed. Ollie would be OK if Doomy is tied up to a rocket and ejected out of the planet or sent to the PZ. Ollie would be OK if Doomy is sent anywhere else but Earth.
Clark was never close of killing Lex. He thoutht about it out of rage (Requiem) but I'm sure he would have stopped the moment he had Lex in front of him. Clark doesn't kill and I applaud him for that.
I don't justify killing one to save many for one simple reason: I will never be able to pull that trigger and take someone's life, so I'll never ask anyone else to do it.
I disagree that Ollie doesn't know that Davis can't be killed. He buried Davis after Chloe killed him with kryptonite and he came back to life. Therefore Ollie should know that killing Davis is not the answer.
Instead he continues to lecture Clark on what he should do when he should be listening to Clark's plan to get rid of Davis.
I am tired of Ollie repeated lecturing of Clark. They only one who has the right to lecture Clark is Martha Kent.
But since Clark is now an adult and she and Jonanthan gave him a moral upbringing, she now lets him make his own decisions.
Yeh I agree, why on earth does Ollie think davis can be killed by the JL? and why in this ep is he now asking how chloe is, he couldn't care less in beast, he wanted to haul her off to jail!
xrayvision
05-12-2009, 04:12 PM
I wanted to take a moment and talk about the Clark and Ollie friendship, specifically the implications of their argument. First let me say that I think Clark is right to do everything he can to avoid doing something immoral, and that he was right that heroes are suppose to set an example. I got no problem with any of this. But here's where I do have a problem: Out of Chloe, Tess, and Oliver.. Oliver is the least guilty party and deserves the most slack. Chloe and Tess have purposely sabotaged his efforts at getting rid of Davis for months. Oliver has done nothing of the sort. Oliver wants Davis dead, but would have no problem with him being sent to the PZ either. Whatever plan Clark had for stopping Davis.. as long as Davis was actually stopped, Oliver won't mind.
Oliver didn't mess with his crystals.. Chloe and Tess did. Oliver didn't go to the FOS and prevent him from doing his job.. Chloe did. Oliver doesn't want him to die in battle with Doomsday.. Tess does. Oliver actually admitted his wrong doing.. Chloe and Tess have not! I can go on but you get my point. So why is it he's so pissed at Oliver but Chloe is this innocent hostage to him? Why doesn't he say the things he said to Oliver to her? Who is harming Clark more here? Fine, Oliver killed Lex.. but Tess has killed hundreds and Chloe is an accomplice to many more and has actually killed once although Clark doesn't know about it.
My point - Tess and Chloe have done FAR worse and that they are the ones who deserve the tongue lashing the most. I want Clark to be the same to everyone, to have the same morals for everyone, and to not excuse behavior from some. Chloe spat in his face and he treats her like she's an angel. Tess spat in his face and gloated about it and he still works for her and didn't lay a finger on her in the barn. Next week he has some decisions to make, and I hope that he lays the blame on ALL the guilty parties involved.
So.. solid episode. Didn't loved it, but it was a step up from Beast. Then again, so is cat litter. We're back on track in time for the finale. I'm giving it a 7 out of 10.
Next week: Ohhh baby!! Its the season finale of my reviews. I'm going to party like its 1999, fill my tub with green jello, and do the running man on the hood of my neighbor's car. The time HAS COME, my fellow fans. And I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
Even though I can't stand Oliver, I have to agree. I think Clark should be on Oliver's case, but also on Chloe's & Tess' case. I think he should eat the 3 of them up & spit them out. Oliver is at least helping him, even though he had to be fooled into doing it. But Chloe & Tess both screwed him and ruined his plan.
Still, it kills me when Oliver, Tess, or Chloe trash talk Clark. That scene with Oliver saying he was mopping up Clark's mess and later asked how many people will die when his plan fails had me fuming. They had Clark just sit there silent like an idiot. Is it so much to have Clark get in his face and tell him that he's been killed 2 times so far and keeps coming back and that the world will never be safe until Doomsday is banished to someplace where he can never escape? The same thing with Tess. Clark should be addressing these 2 from now on as "s--ts for brains". Tess wants him to kill Davis so he can achieve his destiny. The idiot blew up Davis herself in Eternal and even admitted that he can't be killed. Oliver took care of burying Davis and found out that he crawled & clawed out of his grave. What do these idiots expect to happen once Clark kills him in battle? Do they not think he will come back to life again? And the next time he does, he will be even stronger.
And I think Chloe deserves an extra special tirade because she's gotten a pass since season 3---the last appearance of the smart Clark who was his own man and didn't take all the abuse from her & Lana.
NoSupeForYou
05-12-2009, 04:19 PM
Third try's the charm, right? That's what made Injustice so bad. All these characters that should know better seem to be ignoring the most obvious thing; Davis will not stay dead. Clark is the only one who sees it and he's being ripped to shreads by the others for it.
xrayvision
05-12-2009, 04:31 PM
^^Though the others know it but for some reason have a selective memory. They had Tess blow him up and Ollie bury him with both seeing that he can't be killed and both choose to ignore this. It really makes them look like whopping morons.
superjude
05-13-2009, 07:09 AM
I have finally gotten to see it without distraction and I have to agree with Cedric and his review. It deserves a 7. By the way, Great review, Cedric.
My favorite line was from Clark, looking quite handsome, when he said to Tess
" I guess I assumed after you ambushed me in my barn and accused me of being an Alien Jesus that we had dropped any formalities." - I loved the way that line was delivered.
I knew that was not Chloe the whole time so that outcome did not surprise me. I thought the Injustice League involvement was a bit lame. I mean, who and what was Neutron except an extra and then dead guy. And killing Livewire? hmmm - Already? Wow, that went quick!
Ollie- was pretty entertaining! But, what was up with his superpower lifting skill there with Parasite after he activated that Green K Lex ring? hmm... what's up with that?
Tom Welling was wonderful as usual! Don't let it go to his head because I am biased, but I have to say he is really exceptional with his directing as well as his acting. He has that rare ability to make me believe that his character is a real person. I thought that the scene with Clark and Bette circling each other was good because I actually felt kind of dizzy when it was happening. I felt myself circling with them. And I must say, that I enjoyed Dr. Hamilton and Clark working together. I liked when Clark was searching for something with directions from Emil and it turned out to be the car! It made me think of Batman again for some reason. But, thinking of BAtman along with my favorite Superhero is always a good thing!
cloisthelegendbegins
05-13-2009, 07:24 PM
USUAL LONG POST WARNING... Skip at Will ;)
Yeah I know. I'm late this week. My life isn't my own right now. But I'm determined to see the season out so here I am...
What started out as the kind of season I could have considered one of Smallville's best, has become very flat for me in the last quarter. Call it stalling, call it a typical pattern for the tail end of a season writing-wise, call it yet another episode devoted to moving the pieces around in a set up for the finale - I think all of that is true. But for me, a story that had the potential to be edge-of-the-seat stuff has been dragging it's feet for entirely too long now. The same sense of there being something missing has stayed with me, but I think I have a better idea of what it is now. Quite simply, I'm losing interest. Any momentum built up prior to the overly long hiatus between Bride and Legion was tough enough, the Power/Requiem arc literally tore my heart out of the show and now the only thing that remotely interests me in the Doomsday storyline is the outcome. I think seeing the trailer for Doomsday online prior to Injustice was a mistake. It's like knowing what's in the brightly wrapped present a week before you get to unwrap it. So before the opening credits of Injustice had rolled, I was ready to skip forwards to the finale. I don't think that helped my opinion of this episode any. As it was, it filled an hour, nothing more, nothing less for me. When the appearance of the Injustice League should really have had me as excited as the appearance of the Justice League did back in season six, or the Legion earlier in season eight.
The recap starts with Tess/Oliver, gives us Bette doing her thing in episode two's Plastique where Tess 'invited' her to join a sort of a 'team', shows 'Lex' being blown up and Oliver's confession, Tess with the Orb and Chloe running away with Davis. I now know this episode is going to deal with a lot of loose ends left dangling from this season, while theoretically moving us forwards with the Doomsday plot prior to the finale. The fact Plastique hinted at the Injustice League two episodes in and Injustice is showing us the result of that two episodes from the end feels a bit like bookends to me. Can't help but feel a bigger deal could have been made of this storyline. Instead it really has fallen by the wayside somewhere along the way.
The super-size moon shines over Metropolis and we're at the Daily Planet where Tess is telling someone on the phone to wait for back-up when she turns and discovers Clark. Clark's super-hearing really has been letting him down this season. People seem to sneak up on him a lot, and on this occasion he doesn't even react to the fact Tess has just mentioned a risk of casualties and a 'team'. You'd think that might make him suspicious, but no, he's more concerned by the fact Tess has been running serial killer on the loose stories on the front page when Chloe is now on the run with that serial killer. When did that become public knowledge? Was telling the person printing the stories that little snippet of information a good move? I'm gonna guess if it wasn't public knowledge before it could well be front page news fairly damn soon. While Tess refuses to back down, Clark's sporadic super-hearing kicks in and suddenly he can hear Chloe calling for him.
She's running through misty woods from an unseen pursuer. She's calling for Clark. She runs onto a road in front of a speeding truck. Clark super-speeds in to save her. Hiding among the trees we see four figures in black, one playing with a nice ball of green electricity and one of them Bette from Plastique. Nice sequence with some original angles in Smallville terms. I do love seeing the show through Tom Welling's eyes. His vision as a director is the only glimpse of his POV we get these days...
Opening Credits and we're at the Kent farm where Clark is pouring a mug of something that doesn't require stirring for a silent, obviously traumatized Chloe. Chloe fills him in a little on her road trip with Davis but there's something not quite right about the way the tale is told. I quite liked this actually. I thought it was clever, because they gave us just enough to think something was wrong, but at the same time enough to wonder if it was the truth. That's good writing right there. And it makes the role AM is playing very subtle. She really did a good job with this. What should have given it away for Clark was how she ended the conversation by saying no-one was safe until he destroyed the beast. (BTW the over-use of the word 'beast' is starting to grate on me almost as much as the over-use of the characters names.) But let's not have Clark question it or point out a week ago that Chloe was determined he would feel guilty if he sent Davis to the Phantom Zone WITHOUT killing him. Instead let's move on...
And we're in an abandoned garagewhere one of Tess' team is all bloody and dead and stuff and the remaining members are assigning blame when Tess comes in through a large hole in the wall and assigns blame to all of them. She's not happy they didn't work as a team.
Bette: Livewire and Neutron found the monster. By the time we showed up things had gotten messy. She said Neutron blasted him with some kind of radioactive blast.
Tess: Your mission was to find him and then wait until I sent the Traveller.
Livewire: Is that all you can think about. Neutron's dead!
Parasite: Hey! Back off.
Bette: Tess was trying to keep us safe. It was you and Neutron who didn't wait for back-up.
Livewire: That thing caught us tailing him and he attacked. We didn't have a chance. I am not gonna be the opening act to this Traveller when you won't even clue us in on who it is.
Annie Question: So Davis is still in Metropolis then? I'm seeing a hole in the wall, dead bloody Neutron on the ground and I'm hearing Livewire saying they were tailing the monster. So is he?
Livewire wants out, despite Bette defending Tess and Tess saying they're saving lives. So with a silent order, Tess gets Parasite to take Livewire's powers. Bette and Parasite then head off the hunt down the monster while Livewire asks Tess if she's going to put her back in jail. I'm guessing from the look on Tess' face the answer to that is no.
Annie Question: Can we kill off named DC characters like this before 'Superman' even meets them? And I thought Parasite shared powers rather than stealing them, but maybe I'm wrong about that...
Off we go to Luthorcorp where Clark is looking at stuff while Oliver says Cyborg, Impulse and Canary have been looking for Davis, but nothing so far. He asks how Chloe is and Clark says something happened and he can't believe he put her through something like 'this' again. First Brainiac and now Davis. Huh??? Okay Brainiac I can swallow – just – because he let Chloe volunteer to face Kara with the Kryptonite at the end of season seven only for Chloe to discover it was Brainiac. So technically he could accept some of the blame for that, even though Chloe ignored the problem for entirely too long and made matters worse in season eight. But Doomsday is his fault HOW exactly??? It's HIS fault someone else attached his genetic matter to Clark's ship? It's HIS fault he was found by the Kent's while Lionel found Davis? It's HIS fault Chloe was attracted to Davis and vice-versa? It's HIS fault Davis can't fight his own DNA? It's HIS fault Chloe killed Davis and made him stronger in the process even though Clark tried to stop her? It's HIS fault Chloe hid Davis in the basement and cleared up body parts? It's HIS fault Chloe stopped him sending Davis to the Phantom Zone? It's HIS fault Chloe became a fugitive with Davis? Apart from the fact I'm sick to death of Clark being responsible for everything and anything, I'm also pretty pissed off with the fact that no-one else so much as takes a proportionate amount of the blame according to their actions. I hated it with Lana and I hate it with Chloe. Taking a large portion of the blame on his shoulders may be very Superman-ly, but here's the thing: I always liked that Superman could see the mistakes other's had made and could talk to them about it so they understood it was okay to make mistakes, but they had to learn from them and become better people in the future as a result. There's so little of that in this show that I'm starting to wonder if the writer's have any idea of who Superman really is and what he can do - even WITHOUT super-powers. Where is the learning curve? How can a character embark on the path of redemption if they have no idea they did anything wrong?
At this point Clark says he may have another solution for the Davis problem, but he can't do it alone. He needs help. Oliver says whatever it is, he's in. Clark says good, because they need the help of Lex Luthor. Oliver seems a little taken aback with this (seeing as he killed Lex and all) but Clark explains that Tess Mercer was left all of Lex' collection of artefacts, including meteor rocks, crystals et all. They're all in a safe and Clark needs black Kryptonite because it might work on Davis. He needs Oliver to steal it. Oliver realizes he has to do it because if there's green meteor rock in there it could kill Clark. Oliver agrees, Clark says thank you and he knew he could rely on him, Oliver says that's never going to change. Oliver says he knows what it takes to be one of the good guys, but that sometimes it's necessary to get their hands dirty. It's the only option. And Clark says they need to kill Davis Bloom. Nice scene, nice interaction between Clark and Oliver, nice sub-text because the viewer knows Oliver has killed Lex and that's what he's referring to while Clark thinks it's all about Davis, and nice angle shooting them through the window at the end. I love Superhero conversations like this. I love it when Clark works with members of the Justice League – particularly Oliver. I still hate that Oliver killed 'Lex' and I'm finding it hard to believe Clark is considering killing Davis – but when it comes to the latter I know Black Kryptonite doesn't kill.
Back at the farm and Clark is in the barn removing that loose piece of floorboard that provides the ultra-safe hiding place for random crystals. In this case the crystal that opens the portal to the Phantom Zone. In walks Chloe (without Clark's super-hearing detecting her once again) to ask what he's doing with the crystal. After a conversation about secrets and lies – as is the Smallville way – he tells her his plan. He says his parents once used Black Kryptonite to split off his Kryptonian side. Which ISN'T TRUE. In the season four première Crusade, his MOTHER used the Black Kryptonite given to her by Bridgette Crosby to SUBDUE his Kryptonian side. He DID NOT become two separate people. But regardless of this:
Clark: I'm gonna separate Davis from the beast and use this crystal to send Doomsday to the Phantom Zone.
And we all know how much I LOVE IT when the show sticks to it's own damn continuity. Chloe argues that this time the rules have to be bent. Clark says when she stopped him from sending Davis to the Phantom Zone in the fortress, she did it because she knew he was worth saving. Chloe says she was wrong. Huh? Clark says no, she was right. There's still a side of Davis that is human. Chloe asks what if the plan fails. Clark says it won't. I could argue that with Smallville's own continuity, but honestly? I'm getting sick and tired of doing that. Apparently this storyline doesn't have to make sense here. We're just supposed to swallow it like mindless idiots.
Clark: Sometimes justice – it's not about making the easy decision. Sometimes it's about finding that last bit of good in people and saving them from themselves. You taught me that.
Really?! Isn't that what YOU teach people? Is there ANY PART of the man who becomes Superman that is down to Clark Kent instead of other people??? This would have been SUCH a great line if 'you taught me that' had been changed to 'you reminded me of that'. It would have made sense in the continuity, it would have allowed Clark to remain strong, shown he's learned from the things that are happening around him, stayed true to who he is AND shown understanding for Chloe's actions in the fortress. His phone then rings with a message from Dr. Emil – NOT Dr. Hamilton and who the hell calls a Doctor by his job title and first name I ask you?! - to say Doomsday has struck again.
So off we go to where Dr. HAMILTON is examining the bodies of Neutron AND Livewire. I knew that Tess look didn't bode well for Livewire. Apparently John Jones gave him the heads up and is stalling authorities, but Hamilton says they have to move fast. The bones were embedded six inches into concrete so Clark surmises Doomsday did make an appearance. (I'll remember that next week) The Doctor says a man and a woman are dead, Chloe says they have to stop him before he kills more innocent people, the Doc says maybe they weren't so innocent. He says from the evidence they've gathered it looks like they were hunting him. Clark guesses correctly that Tess has super-charged bounty hunters on the case – though where he came to that conclusion from is anyone's guess. Chloe says maybe they died for what they believed was right. The Doc says the two victims died from very different causes and goes on to explain that while the man was killed by Doomsday, the woman was marked and had a temporal lobe implant that was also a small explosive. (nice call back to the technology in Tess' head that allowed Lex to watch her every move) The Doc says it killed her and it was blown into her ear cavity where he found it. From that Clark figures out someone was controlling her. Chloe surmises that someone was also monitoring her. It's all a bit much for Chloe, so she goes outside for some fresh air, promising to holler if Doomsday reappears. The Doc says to Clark that she's been through a lot but he thinks there's something else going on with her. Her feelings for Davis Bloom may be stronger than she's telling Clark. Then he reveals that Chloe came to see him about Davis, looking for a way to cure him. Clark seems surprised she didn't tell him that. Yes, because she's been so forthcoming about everything Davis related of late, hasn't she Clark? The Doc says that when it comes to affairs of the heart, everyone uses secrets and lies to protect the ones they love. In SMALLVILLE they may Doc, in real life some of us value honesty. I like the addition of Emil Hamilton to the cast. I like that he can provide exposition without it sounding like a lecture. And I like that he doesn't talk down to Clark – it's a two way conversation. Though it would be nice to know just how much he does or doesn't know about Clark and Kryptonians in general. I hope he's around more next season. Especially considering the part he plays in Superman's life in the mythos.
Outside and Chloe is putting in a call to Bette from her car. She's working with the Injustice League? Suddenly all the earlier hints are starting to make sense. Even if I'm still wondering how she knows all the things she knows about Clark and Chloe's relationship with Davis, how she has the keys to Chloe's car etc., etc. if she's not Chloe. She goes to meet with Bette and Parasite and they have a discussion about the implant the Doc found in Livewire's head. Chloe says after all the tests that were done on them at Black Creek, how do they know they don't all have them? But Parasite and Bette defend Tess and say they have to finish the job. Again this is clever because it throws doubt into the equation. Chloe was at Black Creek, so that matches up to this Chloe. But at the same time we know Chloe hasn't been working with Tess or shown any sign of working with her – when would she have had time this season with everything that's been going on?
Back at the Daily Planet and Tess is listening in on the phone conversation between Chloe and Bette when Oliver appears with a bottle of wine and a brave attempt at distracting Tess with charm. There's some back and forth about the Geo-Thermal plant mentioned in Beast, some double-entendres about saving the planet and popping corks, but eventually a rebuffed Oliver leaves with the Tess fingerprint he needed on the wine bottle he'd brought with him. Nice move Ollie. I do love the sexual tension between those two, and the history that goes with it.
Annie Question: How did his electronic thingie identify the fingerprint as Tess Mercer's if he didn't already have a record of her fingerprint? And if he already had a record of her fingerprint why did he need another one? Plus, how did he know that was the fingerprint he needed? How did he know it wasn't a thumbprint or a optical scan he needed?
Chloe is at Isis going through papers when Clark arrives to ask why she took off without telling him, and why she didn't answer her cellphone when he called. Didn't she know he'd been searching everywhere for her? About time Clark started asking her some questions. Heaven knows I could do with some answers. Not least of which being:
Clark: First you want me to save Davis, now you're asking me to kill him. So I need to know what's going on.
If I had his email address I could send him a long list of questions to go with this one. As a result of this conversation Chloe is able to tell him she hacked into Tess' mainframe and she's able to show him all the members of Tess' team, including her personal assistant Eva Greer – who I assume is a relation of Tina Greer, the shape shifter from season one's X-Ray. But just as Chloe begins telling Clark that Tess betrayed Eva, along with the other members of the team, she gets the headache from hell, drops dead and turns into Eva. Well that explains a lot. It does however leave me with my previous questions about her knowledge of Clark, crystals, Kryptonian stuff that wasn't in the Lionel Luthor Veritas encyclopaedia and now I can add:
Annie Question: How did she get into Isis? How did she know where the computers were? How does she have Chloe's hacking skills? Unless I'm very much mistaken Tina Greer's skills only extended to looking like the person she wanted to be. It didn't include all their memories, skills and personal belongings...
When Doctor Hamilton arrives, Clark has realized it means Chloe is still out there with Doomsday. He can't believe he was fooled by Eva. But the Doc says Eva was a shape-shifter, it was her job to fool him (nothing about the memories, skills et all I notice so my questions remain). It's revealed that Eva has been tagged with the same bar code as the others. I quite like this. It's very Dark Angel. Nice touch. Clark says whatever Eva did, she didn't deserve what happened to her. And he knows who did it now. Eva told him. She and the others were all working for Tess. Because he missed the part about a team way back at the beginning with Tess and needed someone to tell him, right? That's how it goes in the vast majority of Smallville scripts. The Doc says if Tess has a team looking for Doomsday then Chloe could get caught in the crossfire. Clark says he's not going to stand there and find out; Tess Mercer needs to be stopped, now. The Doc – who is wearing the kind of outfit that suggests he was out at a fancy dinner somewhere – says in his experience with rats, you never corner one. He shows Clark another of the temporal implants and says if Tess is cornered she could hit a remote and kill the rest of her team. Clark then remembers that the Doc had told him they could also be used for tracking the team and asks could he tap into it. I LOVE smart Clark and no-one had to tell him to do this. The Doc says he should be able to piggy-back on the signal and Clark smiles when he realizes if he can track the team that is tracking Doomsday, they might lead him to Chloe. Loved this interaction between Clark and the Doc again. Again the Doc provided the exposition needed to move the plot forwards, again Clark was smart throughout the conversation and again I'll say I hope to see more of Dr. Hamilton in the future. Only thing is – if he becomes the character who provides exposition and technical assistance, isn't he taking part of Chloe's role? The fact he provides that exposition without it being a lecture is a major plus for me. But it seems that more and more of Chloe's role is being taken by other characters and I can't help but wonder what that would mean for Chloe in the future...
Somewhere in Metropolis Bette is on the phone to Eva, saying they've been tracking the beast but can't find it and now she can't get hold of Eva she's starting to lose it. In super-speeds Clark to say he's there to help. Bette doesn't believe him, because the last time he tried to help she got a one way ticket to Belle Rive. He tells her he knows Tess got her out, but he says Tess isn't the friend Bette thinks she is – Livewire and Eva are dead because of Tess. Bette still doesn't believe him. He then shows her something that looks like a PSP to prove he was able to track her because she has the same temporal implant the others did. Bette isn't happy, she says Tess said they were going to be heroes. Clark says she still can be but first she needs to take him to the others so they can all go to the Doc to have the kill switches removed from their heads. Then they can all go find Chloe and Doomsday. But nope. Bette isn't going anywhere until Tess is dead. Before Clark can stop her, Parasite appears and steals his powers – getting a little more than he bargained for and leaving Clark defenceless. That happens a lot to Clark. Nice special effect with the transfer of powers though. And one of Bette's better scenes in my opinion.
At the Luthor Mansion, or Mercer Mansion, or whatever it's called these days, Green Arrow is doing his usual job of B&E and using the fingerprint he got from the wine bottle to open the safe. I love how the characters in Smallville do this kinda thing and only take the one item. It's like a Kryptonian Christmas in those safes most of the time. And who knows what stuff Clark might be able to use in the future, right? I tell ya, there's no forward thinking from the characters on this show. Before he can take off with the Black K, Tess returns with one of her dark suited henchmen, telling him Plastique and Parasite have fallen off the grid and to let her know the minute they make contact. Due to the fact this particular safe was in Tess' bedroom, Ollie apparently sees the best way to hide from her is in plain sight. Naked. In her bed. Have to admit I laughed out loud at this the first time I saw it. Only Ollie could pull a stunt like that. And considering his history with Tess it kinda works, even if it does make him seem a little desperate. There's some more of the sexual back and forth we had in the earlier scene at the Daily Planet, but despite questioning how he got in there undetected, Tess seems to accept it's typical Ollie behaviour and even the sight of uninterrupted Ollie naked-ness isn't enough to stop her from sending him on his way. Personally I'd have admired the view for a little longer. I'm only human ;) But before we can discover how Ollie manages to get out of there without showing Tess his green leather, Parasite and Bette arrive to dole out their version of justice on their former mentor. Ollie naturally gets knocked out. Tess naturally tries to hit the kill switch. It doesn't work. That's what happens when Parasite has Livewire's ability to short circuit things apparently...
Back in Metropolis, Clark is on the phone with his new best friend Dr. Hamilton. Hamilton has been trying to ring the Luthor mansion – though why Tess should listen to a complete stranger or why he would compromise his position is beyond me. Clark says she has to be warned. And thanks to the lack of Superpowers he can't just zip on over there the way he normally does. Hamilton however, has a solution in the form of a rather nice sports car which may not be faster than a speeding bullet, but should get Clark to Smallville pretty quick. I really am starting to love Hamilton. Though that car BETTER be quick, because unless Smallville is five minutes away, Tess is already in trouble. Seems to me the timing versus location of scenes in this show never seems to matter much to the writers.
Tess wakes up tied to a chair at the Luthor/Mercer mansion. Standing above her is Parasite – who has actually managed to be pretty villainous without much dialogue this episode – and he's electrocuting her. Thanks again Livewire. Tess tries to make out that Livewire and Eva were the one's who did the betraying, but Bette and Parasite ain't buying it. The way they see it, they placed their trust in Tess and she betrayed them. I really can't help but feel this is storyline was a wasted opportunity. We've seen Tess at her most manipulative and persuasive. We've seen her convincing as someone who is trying to do good. We've also seen her as cunning and conniving and ruthless and all those other things that make a great villain. But there was never an opportunity to see those things in action with this team of pseudo-superheroes. And that seems a shame to me. Instead the storyline was teased in episode two and dropped until episode twenty-one where it's merely used as a plot device to move the main characters into place for the finale. Again. The one hope I have is where this scene leads us, and that's into the formation of a new team, made up of former Black Creek inmates, this time outside of Tess' control. The fact they might end up naming themselves the Injustice League based on the injustice they suffered at the hands of Tess was a nice touch I thought.
Clark has made the trip from Metropolis in what must be the fastest sports car on the planet, and arrives to try and stop Bette and Parasite from doing something I suspect they wouldn't regret. Bette conveniently knocks out Tess so she doesn't see anything important, while Parasite super-speeds to Clark's side to tell him he's gutsy for busting in without any fire-power. Clark tries to appeal to the good in Bette, which doesn't go so well for him since Bette says she's now Plastique and if being the good guy means being used by people like Tess she'd rather be a bad guy. Parasite has Clark in a strangle hold when an arrow hits Plastique and knocks her out. Seems Ollie woke up and remembered where he left his Green Arrow outfit. He zips down, turns, sees Parasite strangling Clark, and whips out the Kryptonite ring he stole from Lex. I was wondering when that would appear again. He then flies into a rage, presumably because Tess was hurt, and starts beating on Parasite – lifting a ball from the pool table to do some major damage before Clark stops him. The Kryptonite ring has of course weakened Parasite, which allows Clark to demand his powers back (with that nice special effect again) and Clark then turns to see Green Arrow carrying away Tess in slow motion to emphasize the drama of the moment.
At Luthorcorp Oliver is placing the black Kryptonite in a little box when Clark arrives to talk about what happened. Ollie informs him the 'misguided teens' have been locked up in a rehabilitation center where they won't be able to escape and Tess won't be able to get her hands on them. He says they can go back to looking for Chloe and Davis. Clark wants to know where the Kryptonite ring is. Ollie says it's in a safe place and Clark is lucky he had it, because it saved his life. Clark says Ollie knows it could kill him. He wants to know why Ollie would make something like that. Ollie replies that he didn't make it. He took it, after he took Lex Luthor's life. Clark realizes that it was Ollie who blew up Lex. He's not happy. Ollie argues that like it or not, and regardless of the fact Lex and Clark were once friends, one day Lex would have killed Clark. He sees the ring as proof of that. Clark demands to know why Ollie kept it, was it so he wouldn't disagree with the next murder Ollie committed? Ollie then takes the stance that just because Clark won't do what needs to be done doesn't mean that others won't. He says that when Clark does what he should have done in the first place he just hopes the guilt doesn't weigh him down the same way. But Clark says when they kill it makes them no different from the people they fight. It's then that Ollie figures out Clark isn't going to use the black Kryptonite to kill Davis. Clark explains his plan – which I'm sorry, is STILL flawed according to show canon – Ollie asks how many lives does it take before he'll do what has to be done. He says he's not Clark's enemy. Clark asks what is he then? This was another GREAT Ollie and Clark scene. Each of them taking a side in the debate and defending their positions. You can tell that it has cost Ollie to do what he has done, but at the same time he felt it was what HAD to be done. Whereas Clark is determined never to go that far, that there always has to be another way. And let's face facts here – if there isn't? Heaven knows he'll shoulder the blame for it. This was, in my opinion, one of the best scenes this 'to kill or not to kill' debate has had towards the end of season eight. It sets Clark and Ollie at odds in their methods rather than their goals and it's much clearer than Chloe's motivation at this point. I really, REALLY enjoyed this scene and I think both TW and JH played wonderfully off each other. I could almost smell the testosterone in the air.
Back at the barn Clark is hiding the black Kryptonite in one of his usual lame places. He goes to check on the crystal only to discover it's gone. And since his super-hearing is still hit and miss, we discover Tess has been upstairs and is there to have another of her not-so-cryptic conversations with him about facing his destiny. Eva being undercover filled in some Kryptonian blanks for her. She tries telling Clark that the Black Creek project was Lex's doing and not hers and that if the chips malfunctioned then she couldn't be held responsible. Yeah, right Tess. Clark's not buying it either, but he reckons she'll have had her people cover her tracks. He wants to know where his crystal is, she says she had it destroyed so he would have to kill the beast. Sending him to a prison isn't enough she says, how many people like Plastique has Clark sent to prison only to have them slip through the system she asks. Tess obviously still has some Kryptonian education to catch up on, cos the Phantom Zone isn't exactly a normal prison. But then since there have been escapees I'm not gonna throw stones at her reasoning. Clark says it isn't her battle. She jumps on his words and says he's admitting it's his. Clark says she's so delusional she put together a small army to try and make some false prophesy come true. Tess says the mark of a true hero is someone who will sacrifice their own morality to save the world. There's a certain irony in the fact that by that definition Oliver is the hero she has been looking for all along. Clark says no-one has the right to choose who lives and who dies. He was starting to believe Tess was different from Lex, but now he realizes he was wrong. Tess, looking momentarily hurt by that, says the difference is Lex turned his back on Clark, whereas she still believes. She understands if there were more people like him the world would be a better place. But it's out of his hands now. He can't avoid his fate. Clark says Lex did teach him one thing; the word fate is used by people who have lost sight of who they are. He wants to know why Tess is so determined to see Davis Bloom die. Tess says that's simple. An entire civilizations survival depends on it.
After a long dramatic pause before her exit from the barn we head back to the Luthor/Mercer mansion where Tess heads straight for the orb. Whispered voices are calling her to it where it's glowing purple and lighting up the room.
Orb Voice: Is Kal-El ready to fulfil the prophecy?
Tess: I did as you asked. The crystal has been destroyed.
Orb Voice: Then you have become the saviour of Kandor.
I THINK that's what the last line was, but it wasn't entirely clear with the background music and the noise of the orb as it grew and seemed to take over the room. Naturally I'm left going... HUH?!
Can't tell you how much I want to have loved this episode. There were some great scenes between Clark and Oliver, Clark and Doctor Hamilton and Clark and Tess – it was a Clark-centric episode driven by Clark from beginning to end and those are few and far between. I thought Clark was pro-active and strong throughout and I loved that. A great many of the scenes were solid and dramatic and pushed us towards the finale. But I was disappointed in the Injustice League, in the way they were used, in the fact we lost three of them and that the storyline seemed to have been tossed on the altar of the Doomsday storyline. My hope would be we'll see more of them in the future, but I have my doubts. And I had questions in the plot of this episode that I know I'll more than likely never get answers to while at the same time I have a sense of there being so much to deal with in the finale that I just don't see how it can be done in a satisfying manner inside one episode. If some of it drips through into the season nine première it MIGHT work, but I've become seriously disillusioned by the tail end of this season. The Doomsday storyline seems to have dragged on forever now and some of it was just plain messy and lazy – particularly in Eternal. I'm ready for the fight. I'm not happy with potential deaths. I'm not sure my favourite Superman story isn't going to end up flat in Smallville, with some of the most memorable parts of the mythology sacrificed for the sake of plot convenience in season nine. I'm fearful. So although Injustice had some great moments, the script on the whole wasn't the worst Smallville has had to offer in the past (even though it was drama after drama after drama with no break) and some of the directorial choices were fresh touches, I just didn't love it. I wanted to, but I didn't. I think my attention is waning. If I start picking and choosing episodes next year then it's a slippery slope from there for me. They haven't lost me yet, but I feel I'm being pushed in that direction. Injustice just felt flat to me. What I would class as a 'meh' episode. And for that reason I give it a seven out of ten.
Next is Doomsday. I just hope it doesn't have deal-breakers in it for me. The rooftop of the Daily Planet scene at the end of Power almost lost me. Another iconic image given the Smallville treatment may just plant me on that slippery slope from picking and choosing episodes to not caring any more if I miss pretty much every episode. And after eight seasons, I can tell you, that's gonna hurt...
amalie
05-14-2009, 10:05 AM
Fantastic as always Annie, I'd been waiting for your review but didn't want to sound impatient two weeks running by asking questions.
superjude
05-14-2009, 10:53 AM
Great review, Annie. Here's to hoping that the season finale is worth the problems in the last half of the season.
xHerox
05-14-2009, 05:49 PM
In my opinion, this episode was totally worth the '9' that I gave it, but I do see why some people would not think too highly of this episode. Personally I liked it for a lot of the references to past continuity -- especially in reusing a character that I thought would only be a "Freak of the Week" -- and the dialogue, which seemed sharper in this episode for some reason (especially during the scenes involving Oliver and Tess, who had a lot of chemistry in this episode in my opinion). I also thought that the end was a great set-up for the season finale, because obviously it references the mythos but it does so in a way that definitely has me curious to see where they are going to take the storyline. All in all, I thought that this was a very entertaining episode that added a lot to this season as a whole, and I am definitely looking forward to the season finale more than ever now!
Xanderman
05-15-2009, 11:19 AM
Ugh..... Awful, awful episode. So unbelievably lame....as was most of this season. First half of the season was ok (though still quite flawed), but the second half was an unmitigated disaster. I haven't seen the finale yet but I'm not expecting much. I can't believe how many characters I can't stand on this show now thanks to the atrocious writing, and in some cases acting. I didn't think anything could be worse than Season 7. I was wrong.
One of the worst eps in one of the worst (if not the worst) seasons of SV. I can't believe it's getting another season, while great shows like Reaper and Terminator (and Dollhouse) are apparently skirting dangerously near the chopping block. Ugh. Hell even the axed Knight Rider was better than this nonsense.
Anyway, I give the ep my first ever, and richly deserved, 0 out of 10.
funky_town021
09-04-2009, 07:01 PM
just watched it again, i give it a solid 9. the only thing i didnt like was that livewire kicked the bucket, but i have a feeling they could still bring her back, like a different girl as livewire, livewire 2.0 or something. other than that, fantastic episode, Tom did another superb job of directing, look forward to the future eps he's gonna direct for the new season.....oh, and Tess was SO sexy in this episode
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