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smallvillefreak24
05-02-2009, 04:58 PM
Ok throughout the entire episode oliver was telling clark to kill doomsday, and clark was debating what to do with doomsday, why do they think it will be so easy? How can he kill him? He's kind of immortal... They act like its back in S5 with lex being zod. Yes clark couldve killed him, but doomsday? nooooo

smallvillefreak24
05-02-2009, 05:01 PM
This quote from chloe kind of struck me. First of all I think it is ridiculous how clark is handling this. Yes. killing is wrong. BUT i understood when it was lex, and chloiac. NOW clark would rather put him in the pz (life in hell) than kill him?

Bizarrolover
05-02-2009, 05:09 PM
Doomsday can't be killed. Even if Clark kills him now, he'll come back to life much stronger. I think the PZ is a good solution. Both Chloe and Oliver are pushing Clark to a sure death when they ask him to fight Doomsday. The comment is pretty ironic, given what happened in stiletto, when Chloe started crying because she had blood in her hands.

costas22
05-02-2009, 05:17 PM
Clark doesn't want blood on his hands and there is nothing wrong with that as Chloe accused. Doomsday is an intergalactic criminal so his place is in the Zone. There are many criminals in the Phantom Zone, some more poweful than others, so i don't think that Clark should have worried about what Doomsday did once he was there. Curtis Knox is living somewhere isolated for all Eternity but Chloe didn'y mind that.

bigblueplanet
05-02-2009, 05:23 PM
This quote from chloe kind of struck me. First of all I think it is ridiculous how clark is handling this. Yes. killing is wrong. BUT i understood when it was lex, and chloiac. NOW clark would rather put him in the pz (life in hell) than kill him?

Lex can be hold in the prison on earth, and Clark also found the solution regarding Chloiac with a help by LoSH. Doomsday is different, though. There're no prisons on earth which can hold him and therefore PZ comes very handy for extremely dangerous criminals like him whom human can't handle, imo.

Remember? Doomsday can't be killed. (Yes, it only makes him stronger.) So, what's other options for Clark, btw? Space Rocket? :\

zHeN_zHeN
05-02-2009, 05:33 PM
If only they could get MM and Kara's help, then maybe they could fly DD out of the atmosphere and throw him into a black hole to ETERNAL oblivion. Yeah, if only...

costas22
05-02-2009, 05:36 PM
They have to find a way for MM to get his powers back. I hope they haven't forgotten about him.

Maria1023
05-02-2009, 05:46 PM
Thank You!!! I was thinking the same thing. They keep saying that Clark should have killed Doomsday when he had the chance, when did he have a chance of doing that?
Doomsday cannot be killed....

BULLITT
05-02-2009, 05:51 PM
She talks about Oliver not "Having a clear mind"?
Boy, the writers have really made her into a punk hypocrite.
Kill her off now.

Davis Bloome
05-02-2009, 06:10 PM
As I said on other threads, freezing Davis in is a more civilized solution and Clark can keep his code of ethics cause he wouldn't actually be killing him.

morrigan01
05-02-2009, 06:47 PM
Because no one is paying attention to the fact that Doomsday can't be killed. That's his whole damn stick actually.

Containing him is the only logical, workable option.

L Nasty388
05-02-2009, 07:35 PM
lol im gonna laugh when imperiex comes out of nowhere and instantly vaporizes doomsday like he does in the comics XD, but ya im sure when they SAY kill they actually mean damning him to the phantom zone cuz after his crappy performance at the wedding, clark is no match for doomsday unless he does that thing in the comics and taps into his emergency reserve which makes him like 10 times stronger which is what really "killed" him cuz he depleted all of this energy, even what he needed to live on but all he had to do was recharge basically although jonathan kent did save his soul in the afterlife but yea the only way doomsday can actually die is by imperiex or to have someone else with a giant energy beam powerful enough to vaporize every cell in his body, think of cell and majin buu from dragonball z if anyone else here has ever watched that lol

old guy
05-02-2009, 07:44 PM
At this point in time, I don't think people (Ollie, Chloe, etc) really understand the scope of Doomsday. They know that the Green K didn't work, but right now Clark is by far the most powerful individual they have ever met. They're making the assumption that someone as powerful as Clark can kill anyone, and they will continue to believe that until it is proven otherwise.

Remember that on Smallville, the character of Doomsday is still evolving; its not like Oliver has had the time to read all the comics like we have....:cool:

green_arrow_girl358
05-02-2009, 07:44 PM
they probably think they can kill him simply cause the do not know they can't. once they figure that out, he'll be on the phantom zone express

susangail
05-02-2009, 10:14 PM
At this point in time, I don't think people (Ollie, Chloe, etc) really understand the scope of Doomsday. They know that the Green K didn't work, but right now Clark is by far the most powerful individual they have ever met. They're making the assumption that someone as powerful as Clark can kill anyone, and they will continue to believe that until it is proven otherwise.

Remember that on Smallville, the character of Doomsday is still evolving; its not like Oliver has had the time to read all the comics like we have....:cool:

There you go. Oliver and Clark know that Davis has come back from the dead, but they don't know yet that he can't be killed the same way twice. Only Dr. Hamilton and Chloe can appreciate that, given Emil's DNA studies.

jpfort1957
05-02-2009, 10:16 PM
IF you could kill him.........it would be only once. BETTER to send him to PZ HELL forever.

Bizarrolover
05-02-2009, 10:54 PM
There you go. Oliver and Clark know that Davis has come back from the dead, but they don't know yet that he can't be killed the same way twice. Only Dr. Hamilton and Chloe can appreciate that, given Emil's DNA studies.

Clark knows that, Jor-el told him that Doomsday dies and evolves from what killed him and that it's virtually unstoppable. By pushing Clark to fight Doomsday, Oliver is writing Clark's death sentence. And honestly, I don't believe Chloe and Dr. Hamilton know more about Doomsday than Clark. No one can learn so much about an alien creature with only a couple of weeks of studying samples of a subject he hasnt even seen. I understand if Chloe knows about him because of the brainiac infection, but Hamilton? I don't think he saw Clark more than twice and now he's an expert on all things kryptonian? Come on.

hero`s passion
05-03-2009, 02:47 AM
Why do they act like killing Doomsday will be so easy?

I wonder the same thing too)))) it was too funny to watch their discussions about kill him or let him live (especially Ollie)- like "kill him Clark"...and what about Doomy who can easily kill Clark?

chlavisbug
05-03-2009, 06:51 AM
hmmm i'm not sure- if only intelligence was one of clarks superpowers.

and another thing...at the end of the epi- why was davis buying candy from a shop
i mean what serial killers go around, with no disguise, buying heart shaped candy???
looks like all kryptonians aint so smart eh?

rconner
05-03-2009, 12:26 PM
Doomsday can't be killed. Even if Clark kills him now, he'll come back to life much stronger. I think the PZ is a good solution. Both Chloe and Oliver are pushing Clark to a sure death when they ask him to fight Doomsday. The comment is pretty ironic, given what happened in stiletto, when Chloe started crying because she had blood in her hands.

or couldn't Clark pick up Davis/Doomsday and hurl him into space??

smallvillereporter27
05-03-2009, 01:07 PM
Honestly, all of these plans seem fairly stupid to me (but I don't see any other ways)

Clark's: Probably the "best way" but still flawed. He's sending someone who, if they had the choice, would chose to be good into a living hell. I can see where Clark wouldn't necessairly see that, but Chloe would, sicne she's closer to Davis. Also, Clark runs the risk of being killed by Doomsday/being trapped with him in the process. Like Chloe said, the world needs Clark, even if him being gone saves them from Doomsday.

Oliver's: It's a very rushed plan and stupid. It goes against Clark's morals and its now almost impossible to kill Doomsday. Oliver believes that Clark can kill Doomsday eventually and Tess believes its necessary...but none of them know that Doomsday will only come back to life.

Chloe's: I can see why this plan gets a lot of heat. It's not guaranteed to work (well, neither is Clark's) and she's making Clark suffer (because he won't stop looking for her). However, I can see why she thinks its good. She's stated multiple times that she would give her life up for his and she wants to respect Clark's morals (don't kill). However, her arguement about Clark feeling guilt lost me, as Clark would feel just as guilty if he her.

Your support for Chloe's or Clark's plan really hinges on how you feel about Davis. That's why I think this storyline is interesting.

Billy Jor-El
05-03-2009, 04:20 PM
Introduce him to Lana? :lol:

He's been "killed" once, perhaps they don't fully realize the scope of his powers/immortality, etc. yet.

I'm wondering what Blue K would do to him?

If truly what kills him makes him stronger (I don't want no freaking spoilers), then the PZ seems like the only viable alternative.

And yes, I vote for MM to come back strong, too!

Jawth
05-03-2009, 07:28 PM
I wonder the same thing too)))) it was too funny to watch their discussions about kill him or let him live (especially Ollie)- like "kill him Clark"...and what about Doomy who can easily kill Clark?

Clark could easily kill Davis whilst in human form. He could zip up behind him, punch his head off, and throw it into the sun before he could ever transform. Now, while actually Doomsday, it will take everything Clark has to defeat him, but heres the catch-in every single appearance, in every single media translation SUPERMAN ALWAYS WINS.

Still, the Phantom Zone was the perfect remedy for the problem with the least bloodshed. He didn't seem to feel sorry for the Zoners in S6. Doomy belongs in the Zone, and Clark was shown to be the clear better in their skirmish in the Fortress. He was about to end it before Chloe came along. Any death from Davis is now Chloe's fault. I'm starting to hope she DOES die at the end of the season.

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Honestly, all of these plans seem fairly stupid to me (but I don't see any other ways)

Clark's: Probably the "best way" but still flawed. He's sending someone who, if they had the choice, would chose to be good into a living hell. I can see where Clark wouldn't necessairly see that, but Chloe would, sicne she's closer to Davis. Also, Clark runs the risk of being killed by Doomsday/being trapped with him in the process. Like Chloe said, the world needs Clark, even if him being gone saves them from Doomsday.

Oliver's: It's a very rushed plan and stupid. It goes against Clark's morals and its now almost impossible to kill Doomsday. Oliver believes that Clark can kill Doomsday eventually and Tess believes its necessary...but none of them know that Doomsday will only come back to life.

Chloe's: I can see why this plan gets a lot of heat. It's not guaranteed to work (well, neither is Clark's) and she's making Clark suffer (because he won't stop looking for her). However, I can see why she thinks its good. She's stated multiple times that she would give her life up for his and she wants to respect Clark's morals (don't kill). However, her arguement about Clark feeling guilt lost me, as Clark would feel just as guilty if he her.

Your support for Chloe's or Clark's plan really hinges on how you feel about Davis. That's why I think this storyline is interesting.


Davis killed at least fifty people, many of them fully aware of his actions. The Phantom Zone was DESIGNED for people like him.

Clark could easily kill Doomsday while he was in Davis form. Read my last post.

Chloe's on crack. It's like the showrunners want us to hate her, and to be honest, it's starting to work.

SGuthrie27
05-03-2009, 07:36 PM
Yeah, Ollie seems to be a bit in denial if he really expects that Clark could just execute Davis, even if he wanted to (which he doesn't and never will). I'd like to see Oliver try and take on Doomsday himself. That battle wouldn't last a full minute, I'd imagine. And on top of that, Clark and his Justice League companions don't even KNOW how many times Davis has been mortally injured (at least not the Faora-stabbing thing). As for just tossing him into space, Martian Manhunter could probably do it if he had his powers, or maybe Clark could if he used enough super-strength and caught Doomy unawares, but really, our heroic friends are fooling themselves if they think they're in for a quick fight with an easy fix. I really feel for the people going up against Davis in the next two episodes... Eep!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

ClLaLeChFAN01
05-03-2009, 08:04 PM
Do Chloe and Oliver think that Davis can be killed but it will be tough? Chloe got her answer in this episode by Dr Hamliton, and two epsidoes ago when he didnt die permantly by kryptonite. Clark had a great idea with the PZ. Im thinking that Chloes feelings are getting in the way.