View Full Version : Davis isn't a great guy.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 11:20 AM
I know there were some people who sympathized with him and his struggles. Many people mentioned if he could choose not to kill he wouldn't and if he had the option of going off somewhere he would take it.
There were alot of excuses thrown around on why Davis was still a great guy underneath it all and I believe tonight proved that he isn't a great guy at all. He is selfish. Clark gave him the chance to go to the Phantom Zone willingly but he chose not to go because Chloe wouldn't be with him.
He could have redeemed himself somewhat if he accepted his fate and went to his prison but he didn't and that proves that he really just is a monster. He has lost all the quailites that were given to him at the start of the season. He is just a murderous monster and in my opinion he is more dangerous then his beast form (Doomsday). Why? because if he was in his Doomsday form Clark would have taken care of him a long time ago but since he is Davis....Clark and everyone else seconds guesses themselves on what to do.
He can go on killing and using everyones sympathy to protect himself from his punishments and since Clark doesn't want to kill or hurt him in anyway he is defenseless against him.:(
Kcirtap41B
05-01-2009, 11:26 AM
I don't think he (as Davis) is completely evil, but he's definitely selfish and lost his "good" qualities. He's continuing on down the road to his final transformation into Doomsday.
I believe if the Phantom Zone option had been presented earlier than the krypto-cage-of-death, Davis would have willingly gone into the Phantom Zone. But the longer he was around Chloe, the more he believed she was his hope, and the more he became obsessed with her, the more his humanity actually tended to vanish as a whole. Towards Chloe, he's completely himself, but without her Davis Bloome is gone.
hellnback
05-01-2009, 11:30 AM
i don't even know on how i feel about this whole davis thing. but i do know that if both doomsday and clark were to face each other they'd end up killing each other. cuz that's what is fated to be. so i'm guessing that somehow clark is going to get rid of doomsday without killing him and really facing him. sure there'll be a fight or two but clark will end up imprisoning him somehow. otherwise there won't be that famous fight between doomsday and superman in the future. i do feel bad for davis but at the same time it's like......just go man. if you know you're dangerous take off and leave the ones you care about behind. but i guess it's hard to do.
wingster55
05-01-2009, 11:34 AM
He was a great guy..but he's losing all of that clearly.
Chloe Bloome
05-01-2009, 11:35 AM
I think Davis was a genuinely good guy, the problem is that he's not real. He's an illusion that he wants to be real. Kinda messed up, but ultimately 'doomed' in more ways than one lol
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 11:39 AM
I don't think he (as Davis) is completely evil, but he's definitely selfish and lost his "good" qualities. He's continuing on down the road to his final transformation into Doomsday.
I believe if the Phantom Zone option had been presented earlier than the krypto-cage-of-death, Davis would have willingly gone into the Phantom Zone. But the longer he was around Chloe, the more he believed she was his hope, and the more he became obsessed with her, the more his humanity actually tended to vanish as a whole. Towards Chloe, he's completely himself, but without her Davis Bloome is gone.
I never thought of it that way. Davis did try to kill himself to end it all but now he has become way to depended on Chloe and without her he can't function. This makes it seem like Chloe is helping but hurting Davis at the same time. What a complicated situation.
i don't even know on how i feel about this whole davis thing. but i do know that if both doomsday and clark were to face each other they'd end up killing each other. cuz that's what is fated to be. so i'm guessing that somehow clark is going to get rid of doomsday without killing him and really facing him. sure there'll be a fight or two but clark will end up imprisoning him somehow. otherwise there won't be that famous fight between doomsday and superman in the future. i do feel bad for davis but at the same time it's like......just go man. if you know you're dangerous take off and leave the ones you care about behind. but i guess it's hard to do.
Yeah, and Davis like the poster above said is becoming way to dependent on Chloe. He doesn't want to do anything other then be with her now. His priorities changed because before all he wanted to do was stop the killings and now all he wants is a happy life with Chloe...
Atomic girl
05-01-2009, 11:45 AM
I don't think he knew what the Phantom Zone was, and I think he might be trying to make it work because his feelings for Chloe are so intense.
It's possible that he thinks the Phantom Zone won't contain him either, or that he'll just wreak havoc there with no hope of being tamed without Chloe. We have no idea unfortunately what he's really thinking, and we weren't given clues to give us any detail into his thoughts. After not killing Ollie or Jimmy, he may have really believed that with Chloe's influence in his life, that he can change.
I see him as very confused and wanting to do what's right, but not knowing what that is. Clark is kind of in the same spot. Many of the characters are facing troubles that are overwhelming, and it's interesting to see all their differences and similarities in facing them.
I'm not convinced that Davis is bad so much as in such a bad spot that he's making irrational choices, Chloe is there too. I guess we'll have to see how it ends.....and maybe we'll get more insight into what Davis is really thinking in depth.
desertcoyote
05-01-2009, 11:45 AM
I had sympathized with Davis up until Beast. He's tried to off himself in different ways, but he always comes back. So then he has a chance to step away and keep the one person he "loves" safe and what does he do? Threatens to take Clark with him. He won't kill Jimmy because he means so much to Chloe, but he'll take Clark with him to the PZ? Quite frankly I'm tired of him and glad he's going away one way or another very soon.
Minela
05-01-2009, 11:47 AM
He has to become selfish. He has to loose all his good points so that way he can become the real Doomsday in the future. Without any feelings. I think Chloe is contributing towards his fall.
Dresden
05-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Well in this episode he was the only one not willing to sacrifice anything for the greater good. Chloe was willing to sacrifice her freedom by leaving Metropolis with him and Clark was willing to send him to the PZ even though he might get stuck in it, too. Yet Davis? He was pretty self-centered, only thinking of himself and Chloe. I get that he's in love but is Chloe's love really worth jeopardizing the lives of millions of people? He really lost points in this episode with me. A couple of weeks ago, I could respect him. He knew that he needed to die and he tried to do that. But now? He's become incredibly selfish.
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He was a great guy..but he's losing all of that clearly.
Yes. Emphasis on the word WAS. At the beginning of the story his life was tragic because he was an all around good guy and a true hero, but now? He's none of that. He cares more about Chloe than being that good guy, that hero, who would risk his life for the innocent. Now he's more concerned about living a life without Chloe's love. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
BackToTheLies
05-01-2009, 11:51 AM
They don't say your greatest enemy is your own self for nothing, and Davis has willingly and completely corrupted his own good character by fear of his own self.
paolinki25
05-01-2009, 11:53 AM
To me Davis is not a great guy nor do I find excuses for his behavior. Deep down he's still a monster trapped in a good looking body. A Kryptonian monster that needed to be sent to the Phantom Zone.
BackToTheLies
05-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Well in this episode he was the only one not willing to sacrifice anything for the greater good. Chloe was willing to sacrifice her freedom by leaving Metropolis with him and Clark was willing to send him to the PZ even though he might get stuck in it, too. Yet Davis? He was pretty self-centered, only thinking of himself and Chloe. I get that he's in love but is Chloe's love really worth jeopardizing the lives of millions of people? He really lost points in this episode with me. A couple of weeks ago, I could respect him. He knew that he needed to die and he tried to do that. But now? He's become incredibly selfish.
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Yes. Emphasis on the word WAS. At the beginning of the story his life was tragic because he was an all around good guy and a true hero, but now? He's none of that. He cares more about Chloe than being that good guy, that hero, who would risk his life for the innocent. Now he's more concerned about living a life without Chloe's love. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
I would question if he's even in love. Whatever chance that had gave way to infatuation/obsession.
There really is nothing left redeeming about Davis but then I suppose that's the whole point of his tragic arc.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 11:57 AM
Yes, this is exactly why I think he is more dangerous to Clark in this form because Clark won't harm him the way he would Doomsday. I feel Davis will take full advantage of that because he knows Clark wouldn't do anything that could potentially kill him.
Clark is hesitating because he sees Davis but if he was Doomsday he would have thrown him into the zone without second guessing himself and he would have done whatever was necessary to rid him from the world.
As Davis he is using Chloe and Clark's own conscience to protect himself. At least with Doomsday you know what you are dealing with.
costas22
05-01-2009, 12:00 PM
Davis started losing his decency the minute he begun murdering people. Right now, you see him, and you see a murderer even if he hasn't transformed. There were times yesterday when i was wondering if it was him talking or Doomy was starting to take over. He has accepted his other side and to an extent uses it to keep Chloe near him. Oh and i am glad Clark finally realised that they are not brothers.
Davis started losing his decency the minute he begun murdering people. Right now, you see him, and you see a murderer even if he hasn't transformed. There were times yesterday when i was wondering if it was him talking or Doomy was starting to take over. He has accepted his other side and to an extent uses it to keep Chloe near him. Oh and i ma glad Clark finally realised that they are not brothers.
The part I didn't understand was when he was holding Jimmy and Ollie hostage after realizing who they were. He was calm at that point and yet he didn't release them. Then Jimmy started to make him angry and he felt the beast coming and he still didn't release them. That was mind blogging. It was like, he supposedly doesn't want to hurt anyone, and yet his actions say otherwise. :\
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They don't say your greatest enemy is your own self for nothing, and Davis has willingly and completely corrupted his own good character by fear of his own self.
And his infatuation turned obsession for Chloe isn't helping matters.
chrisk2
05-01-2009, 12:11 PM
This episode and in fact this whole storyline this season has been a very uncomfortable and almost inappropriate plotline. The whole "beauty and the beast" deal just doesn't work and comes off forced and weird. The actor playing Davis gives the character a strange/twisted psycho feel rather than a humane one, which the writers shouldn't even be seeking since "Davis" is just a shell covering a mutated freak who isn't even a full blooded kryptonian. When he called Clark his Kryptonian brother it made me cringe. the fact that Clark would even hesitate to destroy Doomsday who Jor-el told him is only a killing machine, is mind boggling anfd an example of poor writing. "Davis" isn't really a life worth saving, it's not even real and as we know his "feelings" are simply thew result of brainiacs programming. The writers insult us true superman fans with these big dumb alien wrenches. The Superman of the comics didn't hesitate when it came to trying to stop Doomsday, just that he found it more difficult than he thought.
There is only one way to end the Clark Davis fight while at the same time opening the door to Doomsday returning: Clark surprises everyone and flies (a la the Doomsday movie) grabs Davis before he harms a child, or Lois (that would be good) and launches himself into space with Davis and hurls him into space.
costas22
05-01-2009, 12:13 PM
The part I didn't understand was when he was holding Jimmy and Ollie hostage after realizing who they were. He was calm at that point and yet he didn't release them. Then Jimmy started to make him angry and he felt the beast coming and he still didn't release them. That was mind blogging. It was like, he supposedly doesn't want to hurt anyone, and yet his actions say otherwise. :\
Even if he did release them, how far would they go before he as Doomsday caught up with them? So he thought about cutting his losses and murder one of the two so that Doomsday wouldn't kill both. That's why he wouldn't release them IMO. As far as when he is calm, for me it's crystal clear that he is milking this whole situation so that he can keep Chloe next to him.
Davis Bloome
05-01-2009, 12:17 PM
To me Davis not neither a hero or a villain. He's just a normal guy who wants a normal life. Love can make you selfish so that selfishness is not what takes his humanity away, it's what makes him human. His love and devotion for Chloe is at the same time admirable yet painful to watch, cause you know it's going to be doomed.
Yes was he totally selfness, he would have thrown himself into the PZ and as another member said before... If he knew earlier he would have done it. You can't blame the guy for trying to have a normal life even if that is an illusion. That is what's tragic. Davis doesn't realize it's an illusion, that he is seeking the impossible. His hope is what keeps him going. He is not a serial killer to me. Because he killed dozens of people does not label him as a serial killer, cause it is practically beyond his will, even if he still is in control, the other illusion is that he has to kill. Either as a monster or as himself. And as himself he has control over how many people he kills and who. And I know it's not his right to choose, but in his position it's difficult to choose anyway.
I think Oliver understands, however does not agree with Chloe's actions. Cause he knows that she's doing it for love and for that I think he can forgive her, but because she is blinded by that love (as is Davis) she is making the wrong choices (again as is Davis).
MozartRequiem
05-01-2009, 12:28 PM
I don't see how someone could feel the actor portraying Davis doesn't give him a humane feel? He's been incredibly humane since the first episode he was on, and has continued to be conflicted about his monstrous actions. In this episode, we start to see a very subtle crossing of the lines between himself and the monster within, almost as though he's getting them confused. But with his extraordinary acting and the fantastic writing, it's been made clear several times that all Davis wants to do is help humanity and wash away his sins. To me, they've done a great job with the tragedy of this character. I didn't think making Doomsday sympathetic was a good idea originally, and now I'm completely into it. I think they've done an exemplary job.
And the reason the Superman of comic book lore killed Doomsday is because they battled each other, right? It was a self-defense thing, and a direct defense for the city. But the Doomsday of "SV" is quite different in that there IS a human being underneath. So Clark's decision becomes much more complex.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 12:50 PM
Davis is in control that is the scary part. He is willingly doing everything that he is doing and there is no one else to blame but himself. He had the way out but instead he chose to endanger everyone on the planet to be near Chloe. He is the scariest thing about the whole season because he thinks he is a good guy but in reality he is a very very evil being that should be gone from this earth.
I would agree with him being a good guy who had no choice up until he decided not to go to the Phantom Zone. He lost all those good guy points right then and there. He lost them all and I no longer see how anyone could still defend him and say he isn't a villain.
Davis Bloome
05-01-2009, 12:59 PM
Yes he's selfish, but it's not like he wanted any of this to happen. He didn't want any of it... He just wanted to be have a normal happy life with chloe. I don't blame him for chasing that dream, no matter how small the chances are to accomplish it. I don't blame him for trying and I also don't blame Chloe for trying either. But Davis is clearly under the illusion that if Chloe stays with him, DD will never show up again.
These are the hopes of a desperate man, not someone who wants to endanger the earth (doesn't mean he didn't though) He is taking a high risk, but like I said he just wants to be happy and so you can blame him for being selfish. For hoping for a normal life. If you have the love of your life at your side, the situation is under control (you think). Would you give it all up and condemn your life to hell for eternity because again you think that there's only a small chance that DD comes back?
BackToTheLies
05-01-2009, 01:07 PM
Davis is in control that is the scary part. He is willingly doing everything that he is doing and there is no one else to blame but himself. He had the way out but instead he chose to endanger everyone on the planet to be near Chloe. He is the scariest thing about the whole season because he thinks he is a good guy but in reality he is a very very evil being that should be gone from this earth.
I would agree with him being a good guy who had no choice up until he decided not to go to the Phantom Zone. He lost all those good guy points right then and there. He lost them all and I no longer see how anyone could still defend him and say he isn't a villain.
The worst type of evil really. Lex Luthor, anyone?
roccanater
05-01-2009, 01:09 PM
I don't think he (as Davis) is completely evil, but he's definitely selfish and lost his "good" qualities. He's continuing on down the road to his final transformation into Doomsday.
I believe if the Phantom Zone option had been presented earlier than the krypto-cage-of-death, Davis would have willingly gone into the Phantom Zone. But the longer he was around Chloe, the more he believed she was his hope, and the more he became obsessed with her, the more his humanity actually tended to vanish as a whole. Towards Chloe, he's completely himself, but without her Davis Bloome is gone.
I agree.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 01:09 PM
For one I don't believe that Davis really loves Chloe. He has some weird obsession with her. I don't blame him for wanting a happy life because I think everyone deserves a chance at that. Also, I don't think Chloe is doing this for Davis but she is doing it for the greater good of the world.
Do I feel bad for him in the sense that he had a bad card dealt to him? Yes, of course but he had done so many things wrong that I believe he could have done differently. He is a very complicated Character because of the situation he is in. I wanted Davis to stay the good guy he was and just be overcome by Doomsday but once he started murdering people willingly and refused to got o the PZ.
It is just hard for me to feel sorry for him.
If I was in his situation would I do the same thing? Of course I want say no but I really don't know what I would do . I may do the same exact things he is doing.
marcella
05-01-2009, 01:10 PM
He's not the same good guy he was in the start of the season
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 01:11 PM
The worst type of evil really. Lex Luthor, anyone?
Lol, I said he is the worst evil of this season. I know Lex made an appearance but the worst he did was force Clark and Lana apart this season.
jpfort1957
05-01-2009, 01:14 PM
People need to stop calling him HUMAN. He is really a geneticaly engineered creature designed with a single purpose, TOTAL DESTRUCTION. He has also been preprogramed to kill Clark. Davis is just a sheep skin that creature wears. Soon he will transform into Doomsday permanently and Davis will nolonger exist.
BackToTheLies
05-01-2009, 01:15 PM
Lol, I said he is the worst evil of this season. I know Lex made an appearance but the worst he did was force Clark and Lana apart this season.
Nah, i was agreeing with your point. It's the same kind of transformation we've seen in Lex's turn to evil, except microcosm'd into one season.
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In fairness to the Davis character, I disagree with just calling him a "camouflage".
IMO, Davis = nurture, Doomsday = nature. Davis and Doomsday are both part of the same DNA package. Unfortunately for the guy he's preprogrammed to be mutated by severe emotions, as stated in the episode.
Davis Bloome
05-01-2009, 01:20 PM
No the worst evil in this season is probably DD, not Davis. Davis is trying everything in his power to prevent that, though to admit he doesn't want to give up the possibility of a happy life for that, which is again selfish, but imo not necessarily evil.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 01:39 PM
When he isn't around Chloe he is definitely evil. He plays nice nice with Chloe around though. He acts like he did earlier in the season.
Even if he seems really nice in reality he does very evil things. He can be a nice guy but he kills people. He says he kills people so the beast doesn't come out and go crazy. That to me sounds like a conscience choice he made to kill people. It may seem like he is doing something great because he isn't letting Doomsday loose but he is still murdering people.
Now that he is around Chloe I don't think he has killed anyone but he is endangering Chloe and having her sacrifice her life to be around him. She has to be around him 24/7 because he says he has to be near her all the time otherwise he will lose control. Sounds to me like he is manipulating Chloe to keep her around.
This guy just isn't right.
Doomsday44
05-01-2009, 01:41 PM
Yeah he was a great guy in the throughout most of the season, but his life has fallen apart. The one good thing he has in his life is Chloe, and if she is taken away from him he knows he will just be a monster who can't help but destroy everything in his path. I still sympathize for him. Only now it's becoming clear that his transformation is nearly complete and he knows it.
BackToTheLies
05-01-2009, 01:42 PM
Agreed. If Chloe had of seen the Jimmy/Oliver/Davis scene and Davis' behaviour/rationalising his killing, she'd probably feel a lot different.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 01:47 PM
I don't know maybe I am seeing things in black and white but it's really in the gray. The way I'm viewing this is that Davis could stop himself or do something else instead of going around murdering people or being around Chloe to stop himself.
If I look at this through Davis's eyes he is trying to be a good person by being around Chloe to stop himself but at the same time he did kill those people on purpose.
He wants to not be evil but he is...and it seems it is inevitable. All the evil he has done since it was revealed that he started murdering as Davis ...he has done on purpose
Mrs. Superman
05-01-2009, 01:50 PM
I felt for Davis all the way up until Beast. When he was contemplating killing Jimmy and almost killed Oliver, I lost any sympathy for him that I once had. It was Davis, not Doomsday who was perfectly fine killing an innocent. And yes he killed many before then, but this time it hit home. Dont mess with my Ollie! :mad: Ever since then I've really wanted Clark to kick his ass.
Not to mention his love for Chloe has turned into a creepy obsession.
Davis Bloome
05-01-2009, 01:51 PM
I'm not sure.... She would probably have told Davis just to run away again, cause let's look at Davis' options. One thing I can say is that he made a selfish choice who to kill. Anyway Jimmy was angering him which brings the beast out so knocking him out was the only way to shut him up, meaning the only way Jimmy couldn't provoke the beast to come out.
Now as I said he chose to kill Oli because Chloe cares about Jimmy. So maybe that means that Davis cares about Chloe's feelings, or others probably think that he didn't want to kill Jimmy cause his 'manipulations' wouldn't be so efficient if he had killed a guy who she has feelings for.
But yeah he had to kill someone cause it was a desperate moment. If he didn't choose, DD would have come out and he would have killed both of them and most likely DD would have taken more lives even afterwards.
So what does seem as the best decisions at that time. Maybe Davis decisions weren't so bad after all...
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 02:26 PM
Davis is more dangerous not in the physical sense but more in the physiological sense. Doomsday wouldn't play head games.
chlo-el
05-01-2009, 02:46 PM
I know there were some people who sympathized with him and his struggles. Many people mentioned if he could choose not to kill he wouldn't and if he had the option of going off somewhere he would take it.
There were alot of excuses thrown around on why Davis was still a great guy underneath it all and I believe tonight proved that he isn't a great guy at all. He is selfish. Clark gave him the chance to go to the Phantom Zone willingly but he chose not to go because Chloe wouldn't be with him.
He could have redeemed himself somewhat if he accepted his fate and went to his prison but he didn't and that proves that he really just is a monster. He has lost all the quailites that were given to him at the start of the season. He is just a murderous monster and in my opinion he is more dangerous then his beast form (Doomsday). Why? because if he was in his Doomsday form Clark would have taken care of him a long time ago but since he is Davis....Clark and everyone else seconds guesses themselves on what to do.
He can go on killing and using everyones sympathy to protect himself from his punishments and since Clark doesn't want to kill or hurt him in anyway he is defenseless against him.:(
He doesn't want to go on killing or be that monster that's why he is fighting so hard to be with Chloe and not to lose her. If he went to the Phantom Zone w/out her he would just turn into Doomsday forever. And he didn't want that. It's not exactly selfless but it's not exactly selfless either IMO.
I think Davis and Doomsday are both figihting for survival. Doomsday is fighting to get out and Davis is fighting to keep Doomsday in and not being erased in Doomsday forever. For Davis survival he had to kill in those moments away from Chloe since she's the only one who can tame him and so he can be the man who always wanted to be when he's with her.
Kevin24
05-01-2009, 03:30 PM
^That is an interesting way to look at the situation. Doomsday is fighting to get out but Davis doesn't let him and they are both fighting for freedom. Davis still killed people to keep doomsday at by though and I can't get over that fact.
It's not like he was killing roaches and ants but he was killing human beings. Davis did this so that his true self wouldn't emerge but at the end of the day killing is killing. I don't know how you could justify it.
Serynarpc
05-01-2009, 03:38 PM
I still think he's a great guy up to this episode. As someone said in the last episode discussion, he was essentially thrown to the streets by Lionel. He chose to help people and become a paramedic. He chose to try and kill himself to save others (and Chloe).
However... there's nothing good about chaining two guys up in the basement. Add in the fact that he callously said that the only way to stave off the beast is to kill one of them- that's premeditated murder. That's not Doom -ing out in an alley and snacking on a murderer. Which by the way- what just happened to Doomsday's observation that punishing criminals made him feel human? Oliver isn't a criminal in the eyes of the world- only Chloe knows that Oliver killed Lex (and that doctor whom she told). How would killing Oliver be giving DD his fix? If they lost that bit of his motive, I'll be upset. It was so crunchy.
He doesn't want to kill Clark. He doesn't want to hurt any one. He wants to be happy, as he told Clark. He's just doomed.
Yes, I did a horrible pun there. I apologize.
desertcoyote
05-01-2009, 03:54 PM
However... there's nothing good about chaining two guys up in the basement. Add in the fact that he callously said that the only way to stave off the beast is to kill one of them- that's premeditated murder. That's not Doom -ing out in an alley and snacking on a murderer. Which by the way- what just happened to Doomsday's observation that punishing criminals made him feel human? Oliver isn't a criminal in the eyes of the world- only Chloe knows that Oliver killed Lex (and that doctor whom she told). How would killing Oliver be giving DD his fix? If they lost that bit of his motive, I'll be upset. It was so crunchy.
Um I believe his targeting of criminals was also premeditated to stave off the beast. He just CHOSE bad people to kill. His choosing the bad guys was to me was just rationalizing. Killing BAD PEOPLE didn't satiate the beast, killing PEOPLE did.
Autumn
05-02-2009, 10:48 AM
Davis IS a great guy, it's just sometimes a beast pushes it's way up. He's fighting to be good.
SuperheroFan87
05-02-2009, 12:06 PM
I don't think Davis is a great guy.........he's the villain. "Davis Bloome" is an illusion created to help a creature who was designed to adapt to any environment it finds itself in (like the Doomsday of the comics). He has zero feelings for Chloe, he's simply using her to keep living a life that isn't real. I don't think he's been shown as the good guy for a while. He willingly tried to kill Oliver and Jimmy, and instead of exiling himself to the PZ he would rather be around Chloe (translation: he's selfishly willing to endanger humanity to live a life that isn't even real because of his bizarre obsession with Chloe).
Kevin24
05-02-2009, 02:27 PM
Would it really be considered killing? I mean Davis isn't real like a few people have mentioned on this thread. Everything he is feeling and going through is artificial. Is Davis no different than Brainiac? Or are they completely the same?
Hopefulsuicide
05-02-2009, 03:04 PM
I know there were some people who sympathized with him and his struggles. Many people mentioned if he could choose not to kill he wouldn't and if he had the option of going off somewhere he would take it.
There were alot of excuses thrown around on why Davis was still a great guy underneath it all and I believe tonight proved that he isn't a great guy at all. He is selfish. Clark gave him the chance to go to the Phantom Zone willingly but he chose not to go because Chloe wouldn't be with him.
He could have redeemed himself somewhat if he accepted his fate and went to his prison but he didn't and that proves that he really just is a monster. He has lost all the quailites that were given to him at the start of the season. He is just a murderous monster and in my opinion he is more dangerous then his beast form (Doomsday). Why? because if he was in his Doomsday form Clark would have taken care of him a long time ago but since he is Davis....Clark and everyone else seconds guesses themselves on what to do.
He can go on killing and using everyones sympathy to protect himself from his punishments and since Clark doesn't want to kill or hurt him in anyway he is defenseless against him.:(
not wanting to spend eternity as a beast wandering in some prison, alone and never seeing the women you love every again, doesnt make you a monster... it just makes you human...
people don't sympathise with him because he's a hero, but because he's human...
Davis Bloome
05-02-2009, 06:15 PM
I TT agree, but yeah he is no hero, but I think that's what you tried to say, or am I wrong? He has a honour and his intentions were often noble more in the past, but less in the present cause he became more desperate to survive and to be happy.
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