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haydenclaireheroes

04-30-2009, 08:52 PM

Have a "key" to the Fortress? How the hell did that happen and when did I miss it? I can't stand her two-face attitude anymore.

she is the only human who has ever been in the fortress so i guess clark trusted her with it.

consti2tion

04-30-2009, 08:58 PM

That's Clark's problem he trusts too many people.

AndiGirl

04-30-2009, 08:59 PM

That's Clark's problem he trusts too many people.

Yep, I'm sure he told her where he hid it. :\
What i want to know is....how she got it, got out to the caves....and all before Clark could finish off Davis. :rolleyes:

Supsfan

04-30-2009, 09:01 PM

Yep, I'm sure he told her where he hid it. :\

In Traveler she knew were it was, so I am guessing same spot.

What i want to know is....

...is why Clark hasn't gone back to the FOS since Legion to try fix the place.

consti2tion

04-30-2009, 09:06 PM

Good old naive Clark, after pretty much all of his "best friends" have betrayed him you would think he would learn his lesson.

Bizarrolover

04-30-2009, 09:33 PM

Clark should hide his kryptonian stuff in a safer place.

I don't understand how Chloe was able to remove the crystal from the console so easily. I thought Clark was the only one that could operate the fortress, so either Chloe is still infected by Brainiac or now that the fortress is dark anyone can rearrange the crystals at their own will and do whatever they want with the place.

Ginx

04-30-2009, 09:34 PM

Clark should hide his kryptonian stuff in a safer place.

I know. After all that's happened you'd think he wouldn't still be hiding things in plain sight or in his barn lol.....

jpfort1957

04-30-2009, 09:55 PM

Clark should have used superspeed to snatch the key before they phased out. Did she take the crystal too?

consti2tion

04-30-2009, 09:58 PM

I think she threw the crystal on the ground.

jpfort1957

04-30-2009, 10:23 PM

Actually, Clark would be dead if Chloe couldn't go to the Fortress in Solitude.

Wrong........Davis isn't as strong as Clark. Davis couldn't brake free of Clark for the 3000 mile trip. Doomsday may be stroger than Clark, but Davis isn't.

The Great Ymmij

04-30-2009, 10:28 PM

Why isn't Chloe getting cold and icy when she's there??

Aries83

04-30-2009, 10:33 PM

That really angered me, first off who is she to take something that doesn't belong to her?

They key doesn't belong to her, sure, but seeing as how she knows Clark's secret, he probably told her where he keeps it so it's up for debate as to whether or not she "stole" it.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

Why isn't Chloe getting cold and icy when she's there??

Remember at the beginning of Season 5 when she saw Clark in a vortex of white and blue light after he started his "training?" That emitted a very strong, cold wind. When she got closer, it nearly froze her to death.

This time, there was no such vortex.

chlo-el

04-30-2009, 10:37 PM

That really angered me, first off who is she to take something that doesn't belong to her? and what is with all these humans going to the fortress? this was just ridiculous

Well, if she hadn't Clark would be in the Phantom Zone.

alejandrita439

04-30-2009, 10:42 PM

i just wondering how she could take off the black crystal? :confused:
i remember in ¨Blue¨ that Kara was trying to take off the crystal that Zor-El put, but he said ¨Only Kal-El can remove it¨

hookem91

04-30-2009, 10:45 PM

Chloe being able to go to the fortress has saved clark quite a bit of times and yet again this time. she stopped him from sealing davis's fate as doomsday

Aries83

04-30-2009, 10:46 PM

i remember in ¨Blue¨ that Kara was trying to take off the crystal that Zor-El put, but he said ¨Only Kal-El can remove it¨

I think it was because either his mom or dad "encrypted" the crystal somehow that gave only him control over it since it was HIS mother's DNA that was inside.

Still, it's a good point to bring up. Then again, hasn't Brainiac touched crystals inside the FOS?

irongatealpha

04-30-2009, 10:47 PM

That really angered me, first off who is she to take something that doesn't belong to her?

Chloe could very well ask Clark himself that very question if she choose to. Abyss ring any bells?

Aries83

04-30-2009, 10:49 PM

:D:rotfl:

Raine

05-01-2009, 01:14 AM

Wrong........Davis isn't as strong as Clark. Davis couldn't brake free of Clark for the 3000 mile trip. Doomsday may be stroger than Clark, but Davis isn't.

Yeah, but I was talking about the episode Solitude from Season 5 when Clark was almost killed by Brainiac. Because the thread's creator said that he was angry because Chloe used the octagonal key to get to the Fortress.

And I think if she couldn't use that, Clark would be dead by now. I just want people to remember that.

I probably didn't explain myself very well.

SV'S_immortal_hero

05-01-2009, 01:20 AM

Chloe could very well ask Clark himself that very question if she choose to. Abyss ring any bells?

could but cant she does have all her memory back afterall, so she cant pull him up about taking memories she has again ;)

hatie123

05-01-2009, 08:49 AM

Yep, I'm sure he told her where he hid it. :\
What i want to know is....how she got it, got out to the caves....and all before Clark could finish off Davis. :rolleyes:

Chloe knows that Clark hides the key in a book in barn. She saw him use it last season when he went back in time to Krypton. As for how fast Chloe moved, well I think more time went by then we noticed. When Clark visits the Fortress he is always suprised when people say he was gone a long time because he feels like he just left.

Billy Jor-El

05-01-2009, 09:02 AM

How long did it take for Clark to take Davis to the FoS? Chloe would have had to go from at least the Talon out to the Kwatchie caves after grabbing the K-key, then transporting to the FoS. Wouldn't Clark have already had Davis there for some time and done (or at least tried) to get him into the PZ long before Chloe could have arrived? It seemed awfully convenient that she showed up just as Clark opened the Zodhole to the Zone....

yaseen101

05-01-2009, 09:07 AM

Marathoning all the way to the Antarctic takes time even for someone like Clark, at max it would have taken him 10-15 minutes to get there. That's enough time for Chloe to get to the Fortress.

Billy Jor-El

05-01-2009, 09:12 AM

Marathoning all the way to the Antarctic takes time even for someone like Clark, at max it would have taken him 10-15 minutes to get there. That's enough time for Chloe to get to the Fortress.

But where was the key? right at hand, or would it have taken her 15 minutes or more to retrieve it, then get to the caves?

Fly by guy

05-01-2009, 09:49 AM

Man it was amazing to see Chloe get that key and appear in the Fortress so quickly. I need her on the long trips so when it's time for the emergency stops she gets the restroom key in the ta da, nick of time. What a hero she is?

mimi1123

05-01-2009, 10:17 AM

yep, i'm sure he told her where he hid it. :\
what i want to know is....how she got it, got out to the caves....and all before clark could finish off davis. :rolleyes:

exactly!!

Kcirtap41B

05-01-2009, 10:24 AM

Marathoning all the way to the Antarctic takes time even for someone like Clark, at max it would have taken him 10-15 minutes to get there. That's enough time for Chloe to get to the Fortress.

That's all well and good, but you're telling me Davis didn't completely transform in those 15 minutes? That's a lot of time to be at the mercy of Clark and not transform.
That whole situation was a bit sketchy in my opinion.

KryptoKnight85

05-01-2009, 11:00 AM

How was it that Chloe was able to pull the Phantom Zone Crystal out of the Fortress console? I was under the impression that only Kal-El can do such things in regards of the Fortress Crystals. Zor-El said it himself when he had control of the FOS in "Blue"

Kevin24

05-01-2009, 11:02 AM

I think when Brainiac transformed the fortress that rule went out the window. I believe that is why Chloe could take out the crystal so easily.

KryptoKnight85

05-01-2009, 11:04 AM

Hmmm never thought of that one. Thanx dude lol

costas22

05-01-2009, 11:05 AM

Maybe Zor El was talking about that particular crystal. Or maybe Chloe holding the octagonal key, had the power to do that. Remember that the camera zoomed to the key. Or it just zoomed to emphasize that Chloe got there thanks to that.

friendsita

05-01-2009, 11:30 AM

1st. Is not like evryone goes to the FOS
2nd. I think Chloe earned the right (say what u want) she has entered there at least twice to save clark (solitude & traveler)

Krypton935

05-01-2009, 11:57 AM

I'm backing Chloe all the way. Just saying....

wafflles87

05-01-2009, 12:01 PM

I agree with the OP. I was like "OY! What the frell are you doing here woman?"

Poyntz

05-01-2009, 12:10 PM

1. Its interesting comment about how chloe could remove the crystal good point. but maybe the key has something to do with that? "shrug"
2. Good point about the time. Maybe chloe has a super speed power we never knew about LOL. But then agian she is use to traveling so much from Metropolis to smallville all the time!!
3. Chloe has used that key 3 times now. All 3 times saving chark... First when Brainiac was letting Zod Excape... Second when she begged Jor-el to give Kara back her memories to save him from Lional and his thugs.... and now to save clark. If she didn't show up when she did Davis was about to take clark into the PZ with him. In the PZ clark has no powers which means doomy could just kill him. Also Chloe KNOWS Doomsday is there to Kill Clark she wants to keep them as far apart as she can.

The thing that stumped me also was. Why did clark just sit there looking dumb. He knows where the portal takes them he could of went after chloe right away. Instead he let them get a head start? LOL

Buddy91

05-01-2009, 08:46 PM

so yea um I just realized this today but Clark is the only one able to affect the fortress . yet chloe pulled out the crystal i think that is major continuity error

dokken-fan

05-01-2009, 08:52 PM

She had her vitamins:lol::lol:

Maybe clark is the only one who can open the portal. But anyone can close it.

Bizarrolover

05-01-2009, 10:35 PM

so yea um I just realized this today but Clark is the only one able to affect the fortress . yet chloe pulled out the crystal i think that is major continuity error

My theory is that Chloe is still under brainiac's influence, and as the fortress is still black, it responds to her.

magic

05-01-2009, 11:43 PM

well last time the fortress was dark Raya could affect it so I'm guessing anyone can
either that or brainiac manipulated it somehow because last time he couldn't infect the fortress without Clark

MjLaDy08

05-02-2009, 10:53 PM

How do you think Chloe and Davis disappeared after confrontation with Clark?

Thy both disappeared with Chloe dropped the Clark's key? How do you think she do that?

anyone?... any ideas?:D

Kschreck

05-02-2009, 10:54 PM

Magic?

Atomic girl

05-02-2009, 11:11 PM

It looked like Chloe dropped the key into the crystal control pad and then they left as the camera panned over the wall....

ms.c.

05-03-2009, 06:08 PM

If Chloe hadn't gone to the FOS in "Solitude" and "Traveler" than Clark would be dead. I'm guessing Clark hasn't forgotten that.

And if Chloe hadn't used Kryptonian technology in "Bloodline" Kara and Clark would still be in the PZ.

Clark shared with Chloe where the key is because he trusts her judgment. Nothing happened at the FOS except Chloe got to tell Clark why she didn't want him to put Davis into the PZ again. Clark is much more powerful than Chloe, if he didn't agree with her, then he could have tried to do it anyway. Chloe didn't force Clark to do anything. She reasoned with him that he was making a rash decision that he'd regret and Clark must have agreed because he let her leave with Davis.

mcwelling197

09-06-2009, 03:55 PM

I think when Brainiac transformed the fortress that rule went out the window. I believe that is why Chloe could take out the crystal so easily.

O.K. that might be. (I'm not fully convined about that but I'll go along with for now)
What I want to know about the crystals now, is how could Tess desroy the crystal (Injustice) when according to Kara in season7 when her spaceship was taken and exploded the equivalent to nuclear blast wouldn't scratch the crystal? Can anybody explain please.:confused:

rowan sjet

09-06-2009, 04:38 PM

Different crystals have different strengths, Tess was lying out of her ass, or it's a massive gaping plothole.

Take your pick! :)

supercatmom

09-08-2009, 10:14 AM

To me, this is the cruz to the argument as to who is responsible for Jimmy's death. If Chloe had let Clark send Davis to the PZ that nite, Jimmy would still be alive.
But Chloe could not bear the thought of Davis being locked up in the PZ.
She has in no way, shape or form doing that to protect Clark as she later told Jimmy.
When Chloe stopped Clark from sending Davis to the PZ, Clark then got the idea to use Black K to separate Davis from the Beast, so he could then destroy the Beast. And Chloe could still have Davis. He did all that to appease Chloe and keep her happy.
And later when Davis kills Jimmy, Clark blames himself.
For you Chloe fans, don't get mad at me, I didn't write the episode.

Of course, Clark is stronger than Chloe, he could have overpowered her and still sent Davis to the PZ.
But Chloe is his BFF, so he values her opinion and he could see that sending Davis to the PZ was really upsetting Chloe. So he let her stop him. Was he again listening to his human side?

rowan sjet

09-08-2009, 10:20 AM

supercatmom

09-08-2009, 10:33 AM

Clark wanting to save Davis was never about "appeasing Chloe". :rolleyes:

You've vastly misunderstood the show or just not being paying attention if you think that, no matter what you think of Chloe's motivations.
Did you not hear what Chloe said to Clark in he FOS. She said that sending Davis there was condeming him to a live in a terrible place. That Clark killing him was better than that.
So Clark relented and Chloe keep Davis on Earth. With the chance that Davis as Doomsday would someday kill Clark.
In other words. she didn't want a mass murderer sent to the PZ because that was cruel and unusual punishment.

jpfort1957

09-08-2009, 09:22 PM

One wierd thing that happened at FOS..............Davis told Clark that he had been locked up or trapped there before................Why didn't Clark ask him what he was talking about???

'doomsday'

09-09-2009, 08:04 AM

One wierd thing that happened at FOS..............Davis told Clark that he had been locked up or trapped there before................Why didn't Clark ask him what he was talking about???

That is exacly what i was thinking. But i guess thats the writes for you. when they thhink of an idea they mus be like, 'ow this is great', 'but there are like 7 plot holes in that idea', 'we don't care'.

rowan sjet

09-09-2009, 09:27 AM

It's like Infamous, he just wants to get things done and doesn't bother listening to some odd thing someone's yabbering on about.

Dwayne93

11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

Yep, I'm sure he told her where he hid it. :\
What i want to know is....how she got it, got out to the caves....and all before Clark could finish off Davis. :rolleyes:
I thought the only person that could affect the forrtress was clark how did chole take
the crystal