Chloe: Doing it for Clark or Davis?

[Cogito17]

There is somewhat of a gray area as to Chloe's motivation for staying with Davis/running away with him. Is she helping Davis because she cares about Clark and wants to protect him? Or is she doing it because she cares about Davis and doesn't want to let him go?

[WildGoatTamer]

Clark. Final scene said it all IMO.

[Polomontana]

Clark, she already tried to kill Davis. She doesn't know what this guy is capable of and if he kills Clark the world is destroyed.

[thehenry89]

she's doing this for davis.

[Polomontana]

How can she be doing this for Davis when she killed him already or at least she thought she did?

[Night_Hawk90]

shes doing this for davis

[queenrikki]

Davis. If she were doing this for Clark, she would have agreed to leave him in the Phantom Zone. Because keeping an immortal killing machine near other people instead of quarantining him is such a great idea :rolleyes:.

[Sports72Xtrm]

I think she wants to have her cake and eat it too which for both reasons are selfish.

[theotherJane]

Well if she was doing it for Clark, then she wouldn't have stopped him at the FOS....

[Polomontana]

People forget that Chloe already tried to kill him but it didn't work.

She knows this and she realizes that kryptonite hurts Clark and so can Davis. I mean she drenched him in Kryptonite to save Clark when Clark didn't want to do it.

[jpfort1957]

She wants Davis.

[Tebow15]

davis

[BadToad]

I'd say the show made a pretty good case for it being a combination of both.

[Polomontana]

I still want someone to explain to me that says Davis, why did she try to kill him?

That makes no sense. She's doing it to save Davis yet she drenched the guy in Kryptonite to save Clark.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I'm thinking, she believes and is trying to believe she is doing it for Clark, but she is actually doing it for Davis.

The drenching in the Kryptonite was Davis's idea. ;)

[Mrs. Superman]

It can't be all for Davis. She "killed" Davis with the kryptonite when he was turning into Doomsday. She believed he was going to kill Clark and so she pulled the lever.

I think she has feelings for Davis, along with sympathy, so its a mix of both: Clark and Davis. But overall, the main reason for her actions is that she believes she's protecting Clark. I dont believe she is right in the way she is going about it, but her intentions IMO are noble.

[Ella]

Great point! :)

[chlo-el]

She's doing it for both. She hasn't given up on Davis and she doesn't want Clark to give up on Davis either.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I second that! :)

[wolverine316]

There is no gray area here. She doesn't give a damn about Clark anymore. It is all about Davis. Really sickens me. So instead of sending him to the Phantom Zone she would rather he keep killing and she dump the bags of dead bodies in the dumpster. Die Chloe Die!!!!

[Mrs. Superman]

I still want someone to explain to me that says Davis, why did she try to kill him?

That makes no sense. She's doing it to save Davis yet she drenched the guy in Kryptonite to save Clark.
IA. She already chose Clark over Davis.

[antx]

Clark most definitely.Even if it is in her own weird twisted way,she just wants to help her bestfriend.

[Timester]

I still want someone to explain to me that says Davis, why did she try to kill him?

Why she stopped Clark then if it was for Clark?

[Kalista]

She's doing it for Clark.

[Polomontana]

Why she stopped Clark then if it was for Clark?

She stopped Clark cause he could have been thrown in the PZ. Also can the PZ hold Davis? The people who created him has made him immune to kryptonite so who says the PZ can even hold the guy?

[Polomontana]

Thanks, it's obvious she's doing it for Clark.

She drenched the guy in kryptonite and he lived. She also knows about his DNA.

[Timester]

She stopped Clark cause he could have been thrown in the PZ.

And?


Also can the PZ hold Davis?

Yes.


The people who created him has made him immune to kryptonite so who says the PZ can even hold the guy?

What? The Phantom Zone is a different dimension, not something that you get immuned to.

[LorelaiG]

she is crazy her love for Davis is making her a wacko

And she is trying the justify telling that is for Clark....he ven called her on it

[Polomontana]

And?



Yes.



What? The Phantom Zone is a different dimension, not something that you get immuned to.

And you know this how? Also, how would Chloe know this?

These people had advanced technology so you don't know and neither would Chloe.

[lm1212]

Chloe just needs to realize she can't be the hero. That's what's Clark is for. She needs to get the hell out of the way and let Clark handle the situation.

[Timester]

And you know this how? Also, how would Chloe know this?

These people had advanced technology so you don't know and neither would Chloe.

What? :confused:

You know what is a dimension, right?

[6-Super-Man -5]

Like I said so many times around, Davis was the one that told Chloe to drench him in Kryptonite, and if he didn't ask, she wouldn't have.

[Cogito17]

I don't buy that she stopped Clark this episode to prevent Clark from going to the Phantom Zone. When she showed up, Davis seemed to lose his Doomsday strength, meaning Clark would have been able to easily overpower him and get him in the PZ. Also, if Clark is ever going to confront him, some risk is inevitable.

I think her logic was that she didn't want Clark to feel bad about giving up on Davis. Which, again, I have to disagree with because after Davis killed 50+ people, has proven unable to control his murderous tendencies, and is prophecied as the earth's "ultimate destroyer", I think it is okay for Clark to take action to stop him instead of giving him another chance.

[galatians221]

I wonder what she wants Clark to do? She says she's protecting him but she stops him from sending DD to the Zone. Who is she protecting and what exactly is plan B? I just hate the way that they portray Clark. He's not the Man of Steel instead he has feet of clay.

[Supsfan]

Yeah the krypto goo drenching and this episode make no sense. One episode Davis wants to die for the betterment of the world, this episode he is fighting to stay.

Chloe seemed to have no problem getting rid of Davis last time and now she does. Seems like Chloe and Davis' mood changes for whatever the plot is

[Polomontana]

Like I said so many times around, Davis was the one that told Chloe to drench him in Kryptonite, and if he didn't ask, she wouldn't have.

When did Chloe drench him in kryptonite?

When Clark was threatened. Again, she's killed him for Clark. Her loyalty to Clark overrides any feelings she has for Davis.

This explains the dream she had. She kissed Davis in the dream but that was wiped away by her vision of a dead and bloody Clark.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Clark needs to stand up to her, and not say the same things over and over again.
Like Oliver said, he needs to make decisions, even when they are hard, to be a hero.

Or at least, something similar to that he said.

[joemamma]

What a CROCK.

She's obviously doing it for Davis. I agree with whoever said that she's trying to convince herself she's "protecting" Clark.

"I'm doing this for YOU Clark! I could never let you condemn a serial killing machine to HELL! It would be bad for YOU Clark! I'm doing this for YOU!"

Whatever Chloe, keep telling yourself that.

I think they should both be sent to the PZ, then they could be together forever.

[thehenry89]

That's exactly why I don't buy this whole "she's doing it to protect clark thing". Tonight she had the perfect oppurtunity to save clark and keep davis alive the phantom zone but she stopped clark from taking action. This just proves that her allegiance is with davis and not clark.

[ginnyfan]

I never thought about it this way. What a downer.

[galatians221]

That's exactly why I don't buy this whole "she's doing it to protect clark thing". Tonight she had the perfect oppurtunity to save clark and keep davis alive the phantom zone but she stopped clark from taking action. This just proves that her allegiance is with davis and not clark.

Exactly. I couldn't agree more.

[Polomontana]

She already killed Davis for Clark. She can't be doing this for Davis it makes no sense.

She knows her presence is the only thing that calms him.

[Selina]

These lines annoyed me more than anything.

What do the writers take us for, honestly! It really smacks of laziness.

To say Clark would feel guilty about taking a life is fine but to throw the whole "Clark would feel guilty about sending you to the PZ" is just desperate. Are we supposed to understand that because I sure as hell dont.

Clark should feel proud that he's just saved billions of lives, not guilty. Davis still lives on, just in another existance. It's not something he should forvever lose sleep on and niether is it a good enough reason to let Davis stay on earth.

Honestly, next time we'll have Chloe tell Clark he'll spend his life in guilt for not taking Shelby for a walk on time. :rolleyes:

[6-Super-Man -5]

She is trying to keep Davis away from Clark, so he isn't trapped and suffers in the Phantom Zone, but we all know, that Davis deserves to be, or at least, thats how I feel.

[thehenry89]

Yeah the krypto goo drenching and this episode make no sense. One episode Davis wants to die for the betterment of the world, this episode he is fighting to stay.

Chloe seemed to have no problem getting rid of Davis last time and now she does. Seems like Chloe and Davis' mood changes for whatever the plot is

Exactly everything that happened in Eternal is negated by the fact that she

1. locked herself in the basment with him
2. kept him there and didn't tell anyone
3. threatened dr. hamilton when he wanted to let ollie in on what happened
4. didn't let clark trap davis in the phantom zone.

[LorelaiG]

She killed Davis cause he ASKED for it!! And she did it almost ripping he heart out, if that's not lolove I don't know what it is-.....she doesn't want to feel like she did when he killed him for the firts time


She is with him becasue she loves him and she is using Calrk as an excuse

[Polomontana]

Exactly everything that happened in Eternal is negated by the fact that she

1. locked herself in the basment with him
2. kept him there and didn't tell anyone
3. threatened dr. hamilton when he wanted to let ollie in on what happened
4. didn't let clark trap davis in the phantom zone.

Of course she did those things. She's facing a guy:

1. That can't be hurt by kroptonite
2. Has DNA that gets stronger when you try to destroy it
3. She knows he was created for one reason, to kill Clark

She's not from Krypton and that's alot for a human to handle.

[dorsydoll]

davis. If she were doing this for clark, she would have agreed to leave him in the phantom zone. Because keeping an immortal killing machine near other people instead of quarantining him is such a great idea :rolleyes:.

exactly!!!!

[thehenry89]

Of course she did those things. She's facing a guy:

1. That can't be hurt by kroptonite
2. Has DNA that gets stronger when you try to destroy it
3. She knows he was created for one reason, to kill Clark

She's not from Krypton and that's alot for a human to handle.

so put him in the phantom zone. that solves the entire problem.

[AgentChaos]

90% for Clark, 10% for Davis.

[chlo-el]

I still want someone to explain to me that says Davis, why did she try to kill him?

That makes no sense. She's doing it to save Davis yet she drenched the guy in Kryptonite to save Clark.

She had no idea that she could stop his transformations when she did that. She didn't think there was any hope in stopping Davis/Doomsday from killing Clark.

She doesn ow and that's why she's doing this.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Of course she did those things. She's facing a guy:

1. That can't be hurt by kroptonite
2. Has DNA that gets stronger when you try to destroy it
3. She knows he was created for one reason, to kill Clark

She's not from Krypton and that's alot for a human to handle.

Yeah, ever heard of placing him in the Phantom Zone?

[Ella]

Like I said so many times around, Davis was the one that told Chloe to drench him in Kryptonite, and if he didn't ask, she wouldn't have.
That's not true. Chloe didn't do it even when Davis asked initially. She was on the verge of doing it but only when she saw that Clark was in danger did she finally pull the lever. It was all for Clark in the end. She's only been trying to protect him every step of the way. Even if her actions are stupid or not the best ones, she's doing it because she doesn't want to see Clark suffering or worse...dead.

[Polomontana]

She killed Davis cause he ASKED for it!! And she did it almost ripping he heart out, if that's not lolove I don't know what it is-.....she doesn't want to feel like she did when he killed him for the firts time


She is with him becasue she loves him and she is using Calrk as an excuse

That doesn't make much sense. Clark didn't even want to kill him.

She killed him as soon as he threatened Clark.

This explains her dream. She kissed Davis but that was wiped away when she saw a dead and bloody Clark.

It's obvious she's doing these things for Clark. Any feelings for Davis does not compare to her loyalty to Clark.

[LorelaiG]

Something I don't get....she killed Sebastioan wiythout heisitation when Sebastian knew about Clark, yet here Davis could actually kill him and the world and the only way is sending him to the PZ and she doesn't allow it?

Is for davis

[O'Neill]

Maybe they need to kill Clark. Im beginning to think that Clark will be "dying" for the finale.

Tess said some things that might be a clue as to what will happen. If what she said is really an insight, then Clark will be the one to die. After all, thats the way the comic went.

[Polomontana]

That's not true. Chloe didn't do it even when Davis asked initially. She was on the verge of doing it but only when she saw that Clark was in danger did she finally pull the lever. It was all for Clark in the end. She's only been trying to protect him every step of the way. Even if her actions are stupid or not the best ones, she's doing it because she doesn't want to see Clark suffering or worse...dead.

Exactly, she killed Davis as soon as she saw Clark was in danger.

[6-Super-Man -5]

That's not true. Chloe didn't do it even when Davis asked initially. She was on the verge of doing it but only when she saw that Clark was in danger did she finally pull the lever. It was all for Clark in the end. She's only been trying to protect him every step of the way. Even if her actions are stupid or not the best ones, she's doing it because she doesn't want to see Clark suffering or worse...dead.

Then why not put Davis in the Phantom Zone?
If Chloe wants to see Clark live?

[thehenry89]

That's not true. Chloe didn't do it even when Davis asked initially. She was on the verge of doing it but only when she saw that Clark was in danger did she finally pull the lever. It was all for Clark in the end. She's only been trying to protect him every step of the way. Even if her actions are stupid or not the best ones, she's doing it because she doesn't want to see Clark suffering or worse...dead.

I just don't see that as a feesable argument after tonight. Chloe had the perfect oppurtunity to save clark and to not kill davis, but she choose to stop clark (who actually had his thinking cap on for five minutes) from placing davis in the phantom zone. If her sole motivation was to save clark she would have agreed with him, but she went against him and now whatever happens with doomsday from this point on is partially her fault.

[haydenclaireheroes]

chloe really wants to save clark and i believe that.

[dorsydoll]

There is no gray area here. She doesn't give a damn about Clark anymore. It is all about Davis. Really sickens me. So instead of sending him to the Phantom Zone she would rather he keep killing and she dump the bags of dead bodies in the dumpster. Die Chloe Die!!!!


LMAOOO I LOVE YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH MA BROTHER!!! LMAOOOOOO
its obvious she sick in the head... who hides a monster serial killer in their basement. does she actually think she can hold the beast off forever:rolleyes:... even if they become a couple, couples fight what would she do when she angers him one day huh, taser him like she did Jimmy:confused: or no wait she would go and put her hand on his shoulder :eek:or no no no she would kiss his bony lips...:rolleyes: mchiewwww!!!!!! lmaooooo Chloe has to go end of story:D... say bye bye Chlark fans, say BUH-BYE!!!!!:rotfl:

[thehenry89]

Exactly, she killed Davis as soon as she saw Clark was in danger.

and then stopped clark from putting him in the phantom zone. I hate to put too fine a point on this thing but that action alone negates her "desire to save clark and clark alone". It's clear that she has other motivations.

[colibri]

Yes, she tried to kill Davis at his request which makes what she did in this episode make even less sense. She should have allowed Clark to send Davis to the Phantom Zone.

[Polomontana]

and then stopped clark from putting him in the phantom zone. I hate to put too fine a point on this thing but that action alone negates her "desire to save clark and clark alone". It's clear that she has other motivations.

Nope, Davis is just as strong as Clark and Clark was headed to the Phantom Zone. She explained this to him earlier.

Clark said he knows he can get sent to the Phantom Zone and Chloe thinks the world needs Clark. She also knows her presence keeps him calm.

[thehenry89]

Nope, Davis is just as strong as Clark and Clark was headed to the Phantom Zone. She explained this to him earlier.

Clark said he knows he can get sent to the Phantom Zone and Chloe thinks the world needs Clark. She also knows her presence keeps him calm.

and she also knows that the blood of a member of the house of el (that's clark btw) can get him out of the phantom zone if davis managed to trap him too.

[LorelaiG]

As I said over the LoveHate thread. Chloe HAS to know that Calrk would feel a lot more guilty because her sacrify than for sending Davis to the PZ

That's why I think her sacrify is bs she WANTS this and is using Calrk as an excuse for her behaivior, she knows its wrong but she is lying to herself saying that its for Clark

[haydenclaireheroes]

i feel she is doing this for clark because i think she still is better freinds with clark then davis.

[superspider02]

I say it is a bit of a grey area, she might have some feelings for davis but she is doing it to keep davis far away from clark she he would not kill him.

[Polomontana]

I'm just watching it again. Clark was in trouble. Davis was transforming and he said, if I go then your going with me.

Davis was taking Clark to the Phantom Zone or sending him there.

[Bella882]

I'd say it was about 50/50... up until I saw the last chlark and that said it all.

[thehenry89]

I'm just watching it again. Clark was in trouble. Davis was transforming and he said, if I go then your going with me.

Davis was taking Clark to the Phantom Zone or sending him there.

again: clark can escape from the phantom zone via the s sheild portal from bloodline.

[AndiGirl]

I'd say the show made a pretty good case for it being a combination of both.

Ditto....
and are people so quickly forgetting, Chloe tried to kill Davis once before? :\

It's a mix of the two. She has feelings for Davis, and wants to save Clark.

[chlo-el]

Something I don't get....she killed Sebastioan wiythout heisitation when Sebastian knew about Clark, yet here Davis could actually kill him and the world and the only way is sending him to the PZ and she doesn't allow it?

Is for davis

She thinks there is still hope for Davis. That her presence keeps him from killing people. That was proved by Dr. Hamilton, it's not just something Davis told her.
She beleives that Davis can be a good man as long as she's around. She doesn't want to doom Davis to a living hell. And he wouldn't be Davis anymore in the Phantom Zone w/out her he would just be Doomsday.

[smallvillereporter27]

For the last time: Putting Davis in the phantom zone isn't the "easy solution". First off, Davis isn't going down without a fight now that he knows how to control the beast without killing. Secondly, he COULD escape and cause havock again. He was sent to destroy Clark and once Dooms takes over that's all he'll think about. I don't agree with what Chloe is doing but I do think that there is no easy solution...

[Bella882]

Something I don't get....she killed Sebastioan wiythout heisitation

No Brianiac killed without hesitation. I don't particular acknowledge anything that has come out of Oliver "hypocriticalmurdererhimself" Queen's mouth.

[Polomontana]

again: clark can escape from the phantom zone via the s sheild portal from bloodline.

Well how do you know he will?

How do you know the Phantom Zone can hold Davis? How does Chloe know if the Phantom Zone can hold Davis?

Too many unknown variables.

The safest bet is to keep him with her because she knows her presence calms the beast.

What if Davis thru Clark in their and he couldn't escape because the beings their have him trapped?

Like I said, to many unknown variables. Chloe did the safe thing.

[thehenry89]

Well how do you know he will?

How do you know the Phantom Zone can hold Davis? How does Chloe know if the Phantom Zone can hold Davis?

Too many unknown variables.

The safest bet is to keep him with her because she knows her presence calms the beast.

how do you know the special bond between chloe and davis will last?

how does chloe know if she can trust davis

how does she know he's not going to kill her

too many unknown variables there as well. But at least with the phantom zone he's off the planet earth and away from potential victims.

[Ella]

Then why not put Davis in the Phantom Zone?
If Chloe wants to see Clark live?
I think the question should be, why did Clark stay immobile in that FOS scene? Chloe told us her reasoning behind her actions. She was afraid of Clark getting sent into the FOS and she was afraid of what condemning Davis to the PZ would do to Clark emotionally. And I'm sure that deep down inside it was also in part because of her own feelings for Davis.

But when Davis calmed down, Clark had a perfect chance to grab Davis and send them to the PZ regardless of what Chloe had said or had done up to that moment. Instead, he did nothing and just looked like this really confused person.

As for Chloe wanting to see Clark live. Of course she does. That's why she pulled the level on the liquid kryptonite and that's why she feels she has to stay by Davis' side.

[Polomontana]

how do you know the special bond between chloe and davis will last?

how does chloe know if she can trust davis

how does she know he's not going to kill her

too many unknown variables there as well. But at least with the phantom zone he's off the planet earth and away from potential victims.

You can't be serious?

She's been with the guy now for awhile and the only thing she has observed is her presence calms Davis. Even the Dr. said it.

It's the only safe choice. This is why she's hiding with him.

There's not any unknown variables there. Things can always change but she knows what happens when she's around him.

[galatians221]

These lines annoyed me more than anything.

What do the writers take us for, honestly! It really smacks of laziness.

To say Clark would feel guilty about taking a life is fine but to throw the whole "Clark would feel guilty about sending you to the PZ" is just desperate. Are we supposed to understand that because I sure as hell dont.

Clark should feel proud that he's just saved billions of lives, not guilty. Davis still lives on, just in another existance. It's not something he should forvever lose sleep on and niether is it a good enough reason to let Davis stay on earth.

Honestly, next time we'll have Chloe tell Clark he'll spend his life in guilt for not taking Shelby for a walk on time. :rolleyes:


Agreed. This was a filler episode........nothing more.

[BadToad]

This seems to be a storyline device that SV uses over, and over, and over, and over again. I'm not sure how they think this reflects well on Clark, but I'm not sure they really care. I think they do it because they want other character to looks Selfless! and Heroic! The fact that it severly undermines Clark is probably not a blip on their radar.

[IHeartClois]

neither, she is doing it for herself, not for Clark cuz shes not even listening to him anymore and is giving him crap, and davis cant be helped, so shes doing it for herself cuz she wants Davis...and 'cares' for him..otherwise what was that dream all about

[thehenry89]

You can't be serious?

She's been with the guy now for awhile and the only thing she has observed is her presence calms Davis. Even the Dr. said it.

It's the only safe choice. This is why she's hiding with him.

There's not any unknown variables there. Things can always change but she knows what happens when she's around him.

The phantom zone is the safe choice. You don't let serial killers walk the streets just because they "promise to behave while they're with you" you lock them up. zod, phaora, and clark where all trapped in the phantom zone so while doomy may be immortal he can't rip a hole in the space time continum.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i just hae mixed feelings. i loved chloe since the beginning of the show and i am afraid that the writers are really recking this charecter. Who feels she is the thread to everyone and if she makes the wrong decition all the strings will break?

[Ella]

The problem wasn't Chloe, IMO. There will always be people out there trying to influence/control you. It's up to the individual person to stand up to these people and make the choices according to what they feel is best. In this episode, I saw Oliver taking on more Superman-like characteristics because he was standing up to people and telling them what he thought they were doing right/wrong. Clark on the other hand looked confused and in some scenes even slow. And when he finally did take matters into his own hands, he allowed Chloe to stop him. Because there was a point after Davis calmed down when Clark could have turned around and thrown him into the PZ. He didn't, however. He waited and then allowed Chloe to take action and do what SHE thought was best. Well if Clark disagreed, he should have stopped her. But he didn't. So I feel that Clark needs to become more assertive. Even if I didn't agree with his choices, if at least he made them with conviction and he showed that HE believed in them then I'd have respected him a bit more in this episode.

[galatians221]

This seems to be a storyline device that SV uses over, and over, and over, and over again. I'm not sure how they think this reflects well on Clark, but I'm not sure they really care. I think they do it because they want other character to looks Selfless! and Heroic! The fact that it severly undermines Clark is probably not a blip on their radar.

Agreed. This is why I hope that Welling negotiated some creative control for S9. This stuff is getting overdone and harms the show imho.

[haydenclaireheroes]

I wonder what she wants Clark to do? She says she's protecting him but she stops him from sending DD to the Zone. Who is she protecting and what exactly is plan B? I just hate the way that they portray Clark. He's not the Man of Steel instead he has feet of clay.

i feel she is in the same posetion as clark but in a differnt way because clark does not want him to die and to have blood on his hands but he wants him gone and the word to be safe. Chle wants davis to live a nice life but she does not wasnt clark to die. so they really do want to do the samething but in the right way.

[thehenry89]

she's a true friend but at this point she's putting davis above clark, like tess said someone has to play the judas role and it's chloe.

[avisray1992]

Agreed. This was a filler episode........nothing more.

How was it a filler? The Doomsday/Chloe plot has been going on all season.

[Polomontana]

The phantom zone is the safe choice. You don't let serial killers walk the streets just because they "promise to behave while they're with you" you lock them up. zod, phaora, and clark where all trapped in the phantom zone so while doomy may be immortal he can't rip a hole in the space time continum.

Nope even the Dr. told her that her presence was it. He didn't even want Davis in the lab.

Anything can happen in the Phantom Zone so there's too many unknowns. When she's with Davis the beast is calmed down. This is the safe way to keep Davis from Clark.

[AndiGirl]

How was it a filler? The Doomsday/Chloe plot has been going on all season.

Ditto,
and it's one of the more intersting storylines....IMO.

I dont think she believes Clark CANT handle doomy, she just doesnt want to find out for sure. :\ All she knows is he was sent to earth to kill her best friend, and nothing can kill him.

[consti2tion]

Honestly, next time we'll have Chloe tell Clark he'll spend his life in guilt for not taking Shelby for a walk on time. :rolleyes:

That's hilarious and probably somewhat accurate..

[thehenry89]

Nope even the Dr. told her that her presence was it. He didn't even want Davis in the lab.

Anything can happen in the Phantom Zone so there's too many unknowns. When she's with Davis the beast is calmed down. This is the safe way to keep Davis from Clark.

I don't think you get my point, there's no doubt that she has a calming influence on davis but how long will that last I don't know you don't know and davis def doesn't know he couldn't go more than a few hours without her before he was ready to kill jimmy and ollie so obviously her calming effect is waning.

The phantom zone is the only safe place for doomsday the only person who can escape is a member of the house of el, and davis is not one.

[avisray1992]

Ditto,
and it's one of the more intersting storylines....IMO.

I dont think she believes Clark CANT handle doomy, she just doesnt want to find out for sure. :\ All she knows is he was sent to earth to kill her best friend, and nothing can kill him.

I agree. I think she is being a good friend, keeping Davis away from Clark when it risks her happiness. At least that's what I got from the ending scene.

[AndiGirl]

neither, she is doing it for herself, not for Clark cuz shes not even listening to him anymore and is giving him crap, and davis cant be helped, so shes doing it for herself cuz she wants Davis...and 'cares' for him..otherwise what was that dream all about

But what is she possibly getting out of it?
She gets to leave her life....best friend...and cousin behind. For A lifetime in hiding with Davis....who may or may not turn on her some day and kill her? :\

[Ella]

How was it a filler? The Doomsday/Chloe plot has been going on all season.
The main arc of the season is double identities which was finally reflected in last week's Stiletto's episode and yet people insisted on calling that episode a filler mostly based on the fact that Lois was wearing a sexy outfit. And I'm only bringing it up because even though both episodes deal with the main story arcs of the season certain fans view them as filler episodes. To each his own I guess. I don't think last week's episode was a filler episode and I don't think this episode was a filler episode either.

[galatians221]

i feel she is in the same posetion as clark but in a differnt way because clark does not want him to die and to have blood on his hands but he wants him gone and the word to be safe. Chle wants davis to live a nice life but she does not wasnt clark to die. so they really do want to do the samething but in the right way.

Davis has killed over 50 people and she wants him to live a nice life? That's called aiding and abetting a felon. Chloe should spend the rest of her life in a Federal Prison. Chloe is in no way shape or form in the same position as Clark. Clark wants to protect people and Chloe wants to protect Davis. I'm ready for Chloe to go.

[Polomontana]

I don't think you get my point, there's no doubt that she has a calming influence on davis but how long will that last I don't know you don't know and davis def doesn't know he couldn't go more than a few hours without her before he was ready to kill jimmy and ollie so obviously her calming effect is waning.

The phantom zone is the only safe place for doomsday the only person who can escape is a member of the house of el, and davis is not one.

Of course she knows that it will last. She has been with him for all this time with only 1 fatality.

She has no idea what will happen in the Phantom Zone. She doesn't know if Davis would have thrown Clark into the Phantom Zone.

She doesn't know what will happen their but she can control the situation if she stays around Davis and this saves Clark. What if Davis still has his strength when they enter the PZ?

So too many unknown variables.

[chlo-el]

That's exactly why I don't buy this whole "she's doing it to protect clark thing". Tonight she had the perfect oppurtunity to save clark and keep davis alive the phantom zone but she stopped clark from taking action. This just proves that her allegiance is with davis and not clark.

Well Davis wouldn't really be Davis he would evolve fully into Doomsday Chloe knew that any distance from her would make his transformations pernament.

It shows that she's doing it for both. She cares about Clark and how he has always had this way of beleiving in people. And she beleives that Davis could be a good man as long as she's with him.

[pleasenoclois]

again: clark can escape from the phantom zone via the s sheild portal from bloodline.


Yeah but that place collapsed and probably doesn't work or exist anymore.

[Supsfan]

The producers in a recent interview said they want to keep it ambigious to let the viewers at home decide who she is doing it for. I think an arguement could be made for both, so I will pick mix between both

[thehenry89]

Of course she knows that it will last. She has been with him for all this time with only 1 fatality.

think about how that sentence sounds and then put it into context "well I was watching ted bundy today he got out of the basemtn but don't worry he only brutally stabbed one woman to death...



She has no idea what will happen in the Phantom Zone. She doesn't know if Davis would have thrown Clark into the Phantom Zone.

she doesn't have to know clark knows, and besides clark can escape anytime he wants to like i've already said about a billion times.



She doesn't know what will happen their but she can control the situation if she stays around Davis and this saves Clark. What if Davis still has his strength when they enter the PZ?

So too many unknown variables.

clark still has his strenth there too, it's just all the zoners have their abilities as well and that's why he got his arse handed too him by namek and ar-thur. and to be honest no one knows when chloe's calming ability is going to stop working.

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Yeah but that place collapsed and probably doesn't work or exist anymore.

that place may have collapsed but the rock podium thing is still there and besides lets say clark is stuck in the phantom zone with doomsday at least they're stuck in their together and doomsday can't get out and kill people, aside from the other zoners.

[galatians221]

Well Davis wouldn't really be Davis he would evolve fully into Doomsday Chloe knew that any distance from her would make his transformations pernament.

It shows that she's doing it for both. She cares about Clark and how he has always had this way of beleiving in people. And she beleives that Davis could be a good man as long as she's with him.

Most serial killers have mothers or others who love them and see the good in them. Those people are to be pitied. Chloe has become pathetic. Her boss is Oliver and she ignored his instructions and she's supposed to be Superman's sidekick and instead she wants control. She has to go.

[Polomontana]

Yeah but that place collapsed and probably doesn't work or exist anymore.

Exactly, Chloe is a smart girl and she's calculating her odds.

She knows the safest bet at this point is to keep Davis in her sights. There's too many unknown variables.

If Davis cannot be hurt by kryptonite and Clark can and he has DNA that gets stronger when you try to destroy it, the smart thing to do is keep him in her sights.

She doesn't know what he's capable off if he gets to Clark but she does know that he's calm with her.

[melissan02]

The producers in a recent interview said they want to keep it ambigious to let the viewers at home decide who she is doing it for. I think an arguement could be made for both, so I will pick mix between both

I remember that statement from the interview, and while I agree that tonight's episode left things a little ambiguous, I think she's doing this more for Davis.:\

[Rainchyld]

I'd had my doubts but the final scene convinced me that this is about Clark, not Davis. I think that if she was doing this for Davis then she wouldn't have had that total look of fear on her face at the end. I just don't think she's all that happy about doing what she's doing knowing what Davis is capable of as Doomsday.

[thehenry89]

chloe is book smart but as far as common sense goes, I think jimmy showed more of it than she has.

[consti2tion]

I'm just ready for Jimmy to becomes his sidekick, if he can trust anyone right now it's probably him. He has no idea what Chloe's true agenda is, regardless if she claims it's for Clark's betterment.

[zorasuperman]

i want to say both becuz the show made it look like it was a mix of both. but i think it was for davis a LITTLE TEENSY bit more. maybe in the beginning it was more for clark but i think the odds are tipped in davis' favor now

[thehenry89]

I'm just ready for Jimmy to becomes his sidekick, if he can trust anyone right now it's probably him. He has no idea what Chloe's true agenda is, regardless if she claims it's for Clark's betterment.

At this point the only person clark can trust is shelby.

[Polomontana]

I'd had my doubts but the final scene convinced me that this is about Clark, not Davis. I think that if she was doing this for Davis then she wouldn't have had that total look of fear on her face at the end. I just don't think she's all that happy about doing what she's doing knowing what Davis is capable of as Doomsday.

Exactly, people forget that Chloe is a human between two kryptonians.


She's scared to death around Davis but she has no choice. She already tried to kill him when she thought Clark was in danger. She knows his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it.

Again, she's just a human trying to protect her friend.

[SGuthrie27]

Even as a diehard Chlarker, this episode made me question myself what Chloe's motivations were, but I think the last scene (and the first in some ways) said it all. I think that Chloe realized that she does harbor feelings for Davis, regardless of his past and what he's capable of, but her nightmare revealed that she's MOST worried about what Davis could do to Clark if given the chance, which led her to the desperate series of actions she took in this episode. The way they ended it with her heartfelt, tearful conversation with Clark went the rest of the way to make me think that it's at least ALMOST totally for Clark, if not completely for his sake and safety. You can tell that she still loves him, and is willing to do anything to protect her one, true hero.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[galatians221]

At this point the only person clark can trust is shelby.

Shelby doesn't even know if he/she is a girl/boy. Well, Shelby may know but the writers don't seem to.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Yeah but that place collapsed and probably doesn't work or exist anymore.

rewatch the ep as you will find out the portal kara and clark were in was karas portal infact kara even states her father zor-el built her the portal before they even got to it, clark had his own back in "zod" ;)

[thehenry89]

rewatch the ep as you will find out the portal kara and clark were in was karas portal infact kara even states her father zor-el built her the portal before they even got to it, clark had his own back in "zod" ;)

I'd forgotten about that one :)

[Polomontana]

chloe is book smart but as far as common sense goes, I think jimmy showed more of it than she has.

Chloe is very smart, especially when it comes to calculating odds. She's the resident computer hacker.

She's a human stuck between 2 Kryptonians with unimaginable power. Give her a break. She's doing what she feels is best to save her friend. It's the safe choice.

[jpfort1957]

People forget that Chloe already tried to kill him but it didn't work.

She knows this and she realizes that kryptonite hurts Clark and so can Davis. I mean she drenched him in Kryptonite to save Clark when Clark didn't want to do it.

I guess she has changed her mind!!!!!!!!

[consti2tion]

As long as Jimmy gets a couple hits off the pipe he's alright, what are you talking about? Haha :P

[Smallville Vamp]

I think they should both be sent to the PZ, then they could be together forever.

I hope Clark uses THAT solution to fix this problem. :p


neither, she is doing it for herself, not for Clark cuz shes not even listening to him anymore and is giving him crap, and davis cant be helped, so shes doing it for herself cuz she wants Davis...and 'cares' for him..otherwise what was that dream all about

THANK YOU!

[NinaDavis]

All for Davis.

[Polomontana]

I guess she has changed her mind!!!!!!!!

Nope, she knows it didn't take the first time. She also knows his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it.

Different circumstances.

[thehenry89]

Nope, she knows it didn't take the first time. She also knows his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it.

Different circumstances.

and she was given an alternative that would not be killing him and she ducked out of it.

[luvck]

Of course she knows that it will last. She has been with him for all this time with only 1 fatality.

She has no idea what will happen in the Phantom Zone. She doesn't know if Davis would have thrown Clark into the Phantom Zone.

She doesn't know what will happen their but she can control the situation if she stays around Davis and this saves Clark. What if Davis still has his strength when they enter the PZ?

So too many unknown variables.

One fatality...under her watch? That is one to many if you ask me. Clark made a decision and it was his choice. The monster was after him...not her and for her to step in and undermind his decision was wrong. Plus he was killing people and proving he was monster. I think the phantom zone was the better choice. I am really not sure where she was coming from.

Thinking that she could control something that she had no understanding of was an unknown variable. She can't control him. No one can. The monster will come out and better for it to be away in the PZ than on earth killing many.

I am not buying that she is doing this for Clark. It is ridiculous. Me thinks she wants her cake and eat it too.

[Polomontana]

and she was given an alternative that would not be killing him and she ducked out of it.

Nope, already answered. To many unknown variables. She just talked to the Dr. and he even said the only thing that might work is her presence.

For now at this moment it's the safe choice to keep the beast from killing her friend.

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One fatality...under her watch? That is one to many if you ask me. Clark made a decision and it was his choice. The monster was after him...not her and for her to step in and undermind his decision was wrong. Plus he was killing people and proving he was monster. I think the phantom zone was the better choice. I am really not sure where she was coming from.

Thinking that she could control something that she had no understanding of was an unknown variable. She can't control him. No one can. The monster will come out and better for it to be away in the PZ than on earth killing many.

I am not buying that she is doing this for Clark. It is ridiculous. Me thinks she wants her cake and eat it too.

Do you realize how many people Davis killed when he was without Chloe?

Did you see the bodies buried?

This guy got killed because Davis thought he was trying to hurt Chloe.

It's very simple, Davis killed one person in defense of Chloe when he was on a killing spree without Chloe.

Chloe is doing what's best to protect her friend.

She's not kryptonian and she doesn't know what Davis is capable of if he gets to Clark.

She killed him once and it didn't take.

[jpfort1957]

Clark should have sent Chloe to the PZ too..........So Davis wouldn't be so lonely.

[thehenry89]

Nope, already answered. To many unknown variables. She just talked to the Dr. and he even said the only thing that might work is her presence.

For now at this moment it's the safe choice to keep the beast from killing her friend.

It's not an unknown freakin variable, davis can't esacpe the zone clark can.

and like someone above just said you cannot control davis he's the ultimate destroyer he is doomsday eventually his true nature will over take him and i think that's what's being set up for next week .

trying to tame doomsday is like trying to tame a wild animal siegfried learned the hard way that a tiger is going to act like a tiger no matter how many times you levitate it over a crowd.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Nope, already answered. To many unknown variables. She just talked to the Dr. and he even said the only thing that might work is her presence.

For now at this moment it's the safe choice to keep the beast from killing her friend.

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Do you realize how many people Davis killed when he was without Chloe?

Did you see the bodies buried?

This guy got killed because Davis thought he was trying to hurt Chloe.

It's very simple, Davis killed one person in defense of Chloe when he was on a killing spree without Chloe.

Chloe is doing what's best to protect her friend.

She's not kryptonian and she doesn't know what Davis is capable of if he gets to Clark.

She killed him once and it didn't take.

you may not want to watch the season finale with all this "chloe calms the beast" :lol::rotfl:

[Fish1941]

I wish I could say that it's still about Clark, especially since she tried to kill Davis in the past. But she should realize how dangerous he truly is right now. I hate to say this but Clark had the right idea. Why allow a guy who is near impossible to kill and cannot control his "killer" instincts roam about the Earth? Is she crazy?

[Polomontana]

It's not an unknown freakin variable, davis can't esacpe the zone clark can.

and like someone above just said you cannot control davis he's the ultimate destroyer he is doomsday eventually his true nature will over take him and i think that's what's being set up for next week .

trying to tame doomsday is like trying to tame a wild animal siegfried learned the hard way that a tiger is going to act like a tiger no matter how many times you levitate it over a crowd.

Your saying this from the perspective of reading the comic book. Chloe hasn't read the comic book so she's doing what's best at this point to save her friend's life.

If Davis can kill Clark on earth why can't he kill him in the Phantom Zone?

Again, too many variables.

Chloe hasn't read the comic book about Doomsday.

[rosalba]

of course she is doing this for Davis...come on!she made out with him and enjoyed it.
the truth is, if the writers didn't put that, to make us think that she is doing it for Clark
Chloe would've look so bad, instead she is the poor victim sacrifying herself to protect Clark and the world.
boooooooring....she is the new Lana.

[thehenry89]

Chloe hasn't read the comic book about Doomsday.

Serious question here, but have you read the death of superman arc in the comics the phantom zone isn't even brought up clark ends up beading doomsday to death and then dying himself.

I'm talking about established smallville canon clark escaped the zone twice once in zod via the portal his dad made for him (which is still very much in tact) and once in bloodline which may or may not be destroyed.

I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall, it's like I know 2+2=4 but the whole world has gone nuts and keeps telling me it's 5.

[Clana4Life]

Even as a diehard Chlarker, this episode made me question myself what Chloe's motivations were, but I think the last scene (and the first in some ways) said it all. I think that Chloe realized that she does harbor feelings for Davis, regardless of his past and what he's capable of, but her nightmare revealed that she's MOST worried about what Davis could do to Clark if given the chance, which led her to the desperate series of actions she took in this episode. The way they ended it with her heartfelt, tearful conversation with Clark went the rest of the way to make me think that it's at least ALMOST totally for Clark, if not completely for his sake and safety. You can tell that she still loves him, and is willing to do anything to protect her one, true hero.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--


I think you're right. I do think Chloe is in a bit of denial. It's not ALL for Clark. I believe a great majority of it is. I wonder how long she can live with Davis, whom she seems to have to be handcuffed to now. And how are they going to live together? What would the dynamics of that relationship be? He's in love with her? Does she think they will be able to live as platonic friends forever? Chloe needs to think it all through.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Your saying this from the perspective of reading the comic book. Chloe hasn't read the comic book so she's doing what's best at this point to save her friend's life.

If Davis can kill Clark on earth why can't he kill him in the Phantom Zone?

Again, too many variables.

Chloe hasn't read the comic book about Doomsday.

this isnt heroes were the good guys can read up on their futures :lol:

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I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall.

its not worth the headache :lol:

[alejandrita439]

she is trying to save clark .... and a little davis

[Polomontana]

Serious question here, but have you read the death of superman arc in the comics the phantom zone isn't even brought up clark ends up beading doomsday to death and then dying himself.

I'm talking about established smallville canon clark escaped the zone twice once in zod via the portal his dad made for him (which is still very much in tact) and once in bloodline which may or may not be destroyed.

I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall, it's like I know 2+2=4 but the whole world has gone nuts and keeps telling me it's 5.

You're bumping your head against a wall because Chloe doesn't know what Davis is capable of.

You fail to realize this.

She tried to kill him and kryptonite doesn't hurt him but it hurts Clark.

She knows his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it.

Davis could kill Clark in the Phantom Zone, she doesn't know.

She knows there was bodies everywhere when Davis wasn't with her and he's just killed one in her defense when she's around him.

You are talking about Doomsday is the ultimate destroyer and nothing can stop him but Chloe doesn't know that.

[supercatmom]

Davis. If she were doing this for Clark, she would have agreed to leave him in the Phantom Zone. Because keeping an immortal killing machine near other people instead of quarantining him is such a great idea :rolleyes:.

ITA

Davis has sent Jimmy to the hospital twice and was about to kill Ollie. She knows he is immortal and can't be killed even by Clark yet she doesn't want Clark to end it by sending Davis to the Phanton Zone.

[luvck]

Nope, already answered. To many unknown variables. She just talked to the Dr. and he even said the only thing that might work is her presence.

For now at this moment it's the safe choice to keep the beast from killing her friend.

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Do you realize how many people Davis killed when he was without Chloe?

Did you see the bodies buried?

This guy got killed because Davis thought he was trying to hurt Chloe.

It's very simple, Davis killed one person in defense of Chloe when he was on a killing spree without Chloe.

Chloe is doing what's best to protect her friend.

She's not kryptonian and she doesn't know what Davis is capable of if he gets to Clark.

She killed him once and it didn't take.

Ok...Yes I know how many people he killed and YES I saw the bodies. Obviously that didn't affect Chloe.

It's not that simple. She is jeapordizing many lives by keeping him away from the phantom zone. I know why he didn't go to PZ and it obvious why. It was just written poorly. If there had been a fight and Clark had stood his ground for what he truely believed should have been done...it would have made more sense. But no, she walk out with him like she owned the FOS and is taking the responsibilty of many...we are talking millions of lives.

She is not Kryptonian and neither is Dr. Hamilton. But she has a right to go over Clarks head, who is Kryptonian and make such a grand decision. Not buying it.

Yep, she tried to kill him and the thing about her so called taming the monster will one day not take anymore too. He will become the monster, what then? She is skrewed!!! She wasn't taking everything into consideration and only doing what she thought was right. Which leads me to believe she didn't do this for Clark. Because if she was doing this for him, she would have listened and worked with him. She had him hidden from Clark and lying to him before Dr. Hamilton said that about her being able to tame the doom.

So...god...This episode was a messed up in so many ways.

[Faby]

I'd say the show made a pretty good case for it being a combination of both.


Indeed!!!

[vikingjedi]

She stopped Clark cause he could have been thrown in the PZ. Also can the PZ hold Davis? The people who created him has made him immune to kryptonite so who says the PZ can even hold the guy?

Exactly, its basically impossible for Clark to put Doomsday in the Phantom Zone without Clark going with him. Thats the same as Clark dying. Plus who's to say Doomsday wouldn't kill Clark and then use his hand to leave the Phantom Zone.

[thehenry89]

You're bumping your head against a wall because Chloe doesn't know what Davis is capable of.

You fail to realize this.


You can't be serious she seen him kill she saw his feild of bodies she saw him transform and she saw him smack jimmy around like a rag doll she knows exactly what he's capable of, that's why she doused him with kryptonite in the first freakin place to protect clark from the "ultimate destroyer"

She knows what he is who made him why he's on earth and how powerful he is and yet she continues harbor him and keep clark from imprisoning him. Chloe is not a freakin babe in the woods here she knows what she's getting into, like I said before a tiger is a tiger and eventually blood will out.

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its not worth the headache :lol:

I'm starting to see that now :lol:

[Polomontana]

Ok...Yes I know how many people he killed and YES I saw the bodies. Obviously that didn't affect Chloe.

It's not that simple? Yes it is...send him away from everyone. She is jeapordizing many lives by keeping him away from the phantom zone. I know why he didn't go to PZ and it obvious why. It was just written poorly. If there had been a fight and Clark had stood his ground for what he truely believed should have been done...it would have made more sense. But no, she walk out with him like she owned the FOS and is taking the responsibilty of many...we are talking millions of lives.

She is not Kryptonian and neither is Dr. Hamilton. But she has a right to go over Clarks head, who is Kryptonian and make such a grand decision. Not buying it.

Yep, she tried to kill him and the thing about her so called taming the monster will one day not take anymore too. He will become the monster, what then? She is skrewed!!! She wasn't taking everything into consideration and only doing what she thought was right. Which leads me to believe she didn't do this for Clark. Because if she was doing this for him, she would have listened and worked with him. She had him hidden from Clark and lying to him before Dr. Hamilton said that about her being able to tame the doom.

So...god...This episode was a mess up in so many ways.


Of course she has a right to go over Clarks head.

She did it when she killed Davis. Clark wanted Davis to be saved and he didn't want Chloe to kill him but Chloe made the call.

Again, you are coming from the perspective of the comic book.

You know what Doomsday is capable of and Chloe doesn't. She only knows her presence calms him and that could save Clark and the world.

She doesn't know if Clark was headed into the PZ with Davis and he could kill him in there.

She doesn't know if Davis would have put Clark in the Phantom Zone.

She doesn't know if Davis can escape the Phantom Zone.

She only knows that her presence calms him and he appears to be indestructable and he was sent to kill Clark.

You can't see things from your perspective. You know what Doomsday is capable of because you read the book. Chloe doesn't.

[luvck]

you may not want to watch the season finale with all this "chloe calms the beast" :lol::rotfl:

:lol: That cracked me up!!!

[Polomontana]

You can't be serious she seen him kill she saw his feild of bodies she saw him transform and she saw him smack jimmy around like a rag doll she knows exactly what he's capable of, that's why she doused him with kryptonite in the first freakin place to protect clark from the "ultimate destroyer"

She knows what he is who made him why he's on earth and how powerful he is and yet she continues harbor him and keep clark from imprisoning him. Chloe is not a freakin babe in the woods here she knows what she's getting into, like I said before a tiger is a tiger and eventually blood will out.

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I'm starting to see that now :lol:

Of course she doesn't know everything he's capable of. She just found out about his DNA.

If he's designed to kill Clark and kryptonite doesn't hurt him, she has no clue what he can do if he gets his hands on Clark.

Has she even seen the beast?

[thehenry89]

Of course she has a right to go over Clarks head.

She did it when she killed Davis. Clark wanted Davis to be saved and he didn't want Chloe to kill him but Chloe made the call.

Again, you are coming from the perspective of the comic book.

You know what Doomsday is capable of and Chloe doesn't. She only knows her presence calms him and that could save Clark and the world.

She doesn't know if Clark was headed into the PZ with Davis and he could kill him in there.

She doesn't know if Davis would have put Clark in the Phantom Zone.

She doesn't know if Davis can escape the Phantom Zone.

She only knows that her presence calms him and he appears to be indestructable and he was sent to kill Clark.

You can't see things from your perspective. You know what Doomsday is capable of because you read the book. Chloe doesn't.


Chloe knows exactly what davis is capable of!!! she knows he's doomsday she knows hes the ultimate destroyer

sheesh i really hate to repeat myself but dang

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Of course she doesn't know everything he's capable of. She just found out about his DNA.

If he's designed to kill Clark and kryptonite doesn't hurt him, she has no clue what he can do if he gets his hands on Clark.

Has she even seen the beast?

in the first sentence you claim she doesn't know what he's capable of, but in the next sentence you negate your first point by bringing up scenes from the very episdoe in which she finds out who and what davis really is :lol: I'm really not trying to be rude but you're unraveling you're own argument.

[galatians221]

Clark should have sent Chloe to the PZ too..........So Davis wouldn't be so lonely.

My thoughts exactly.

[SGuthrie27]

Thanks, Clana4Life. Yeah, I think she has been a bit in denial, too, about just how dangerous Davis could be... But she did prove one thing in this episode. She really DOES have DEFINITIVE POWER over Davis' transformation. Notice that, before even seeing her, or realizing that she's there in the Fortress of Solitude, Davis IMMEDIATELY goes week and changes back to "human" form. That seems to definitely prove that Chloe's presence DOES stop him from changing completely into Doomsday (at least for now, but as Dr. Emil Hamilton said, he's adaptive and continually "evolving," so her being there might only work for a certain amount of time). I still say that it's mostly for Clark -- about 90%, as AgentChaos said. Does she still care for Davis? I think on some levels, YES, she does. After all, he's been for her during several very vulnerable occasions, and saved her life a few times. He's still a psycho serial killer (or at least his uncontrollable monstrous side is), but I truly think that Chloe believes she has the best chance of saving Clark by keeping Davis as far away from him, and as close to her, as possible. She's sacrificing, once again, her chance at happiness and being with her friends and the man she REALLY loves (I still say she loves Clark) and potentially putting herself in harm's way to protect them, and the world. Is she going about that plan in the best way? Probably not, but right now, she thinks it's the best option, and wants to keep Clark from having to "get blood on his hands."

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Malicieux Toutou]

I don't even think Chloe knows the answer to this. She's confused. She says she's doing it all for Clark, but we know that's not true. Chloe is first against Clark sending Davis to the phantom zone because she thinks it could backfire and Clark could wind up in the PZ. But that wasn't an issue when she pulled the plug. Now her reason for being against it is because Clark would never forgive himself. Really? Not very convincing Chloe.

[SVFancross]

This show is always ambiguous, tonight I really felt they gave a scene that was unambiguous.

The whole buildup of the episode was to convince the audience that Chloe should be fit with a straight jacket. Even Ollie had Clark convinced Chloe had chosen Daivs

.....And then "boom", the final scene had the real conversation that Chloe and Clark should have had all year. They get each other 100%. And she is absolutely right --- he should not consign Davis to a life of torture so Clark doesn't kill. They have to find a better solution and she thinks she has one. We know she's wrong but it's completely consistent and something Clark would do himself --- he was prepared to go to the Phantom Zone for pity's sake. It's a pretty obvious parallel. I am so glad Clark confronted her on her feelings for Davis and she laid it all out for him. What she is doing is for Clark. What did she have to gain by lying to him? Nothing. She said the words out loud because she couldn't let him feel betrayed and she knew he'd understand what she was doing.** Posters can deny, bash, or come up with "evil Chloe" theories --- that last scene removed all doubt about the show's position on Chloe and Clark's friendship. Tonight's episode was pretty darn clear. And I'm not going to bother with the IMO bit either that I always put on my thoughts --- this was "text", not "subtext". It is extremely rare to actually get that on Smallville and it's about time after a year of hell for the Chlark friendship.

** ETA: More than anything else, the fact that she thought she was leaving forever is why I think she made this confession. And it's not about "love interest" love. It's a different thing -- agape. I think she wouldn't have admitted that this was her motivation if she thought she was going to be back.

[Polomontana]

Chloe knows exactly what davis is capable of!!! she knows he's doomsday she knows hes the ultimate destroyer

sheesh i really hate to repeat myself but dang

Again, you make no sense.

She doesn't know what he's capable of she just found out his DNA was indestructable.

She just knows he's sent hear to kill Clark. She's not kryptonian. She hasn't read the comic books.

Again, you act as if Chloe has a superman comic book collection.

She's not kryptonian so she doesn't know what he's capable of if he gets to Clark.

Why was she testing his DNA if she knows what he's capable of? You're not making sense.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Chloe knows exactly what davis is capable of!!! she knows he's doomsday she knows hes the ultimate destroyer

sheesh i really hate to repeat myself but dang.

count to 100 slowly, woosa *Breath In, Breath Out* :lol:

[Polomontana]

Of course she's trying to figure out what he's capable of and how to stop him. That's why she had his DNA tested.

Again, your acting like Chloe knows the Doomsday story. She hasn't read the comic books so she doesn't know.

[luvck]

Of course she has a right to go over Clarks head.

She did it when she killed Davis. Clark wanted Davis to be saved and he didn't want Chloe to kill him but Chloe made the call.

Again, you are coming from the perspective of the comic book.

You know what Doomsday is capable of and Chloe doesn't. She only knows her presence calms him and that could save Clark and the world.

She doesn't know if Clark was headed into the PZ with Davis and he could kill him in there.

She doesn't know if Davis would have put Clark in the Phantom Zone.

She doesn't know if Davis can escape the Phantom Zone.

She only knows that her presence calms him and he appears to be indestructable and he was sent to kill Clark.

You can't see things from your perspective. You know what Doomsday is capable of because you read the book. Chloe doesn't.

First of all...you assume. I am not a comic book reader. I know about them, but I am not a reader, nor would I claim the knowledge that some do have from reading them.

I can see them from my prespective and I DO!!

Chloe does know what he is capable of, she has seen it and has been told.
The monster crashed her wedding and put her husband in the hospital.

Something is just not right...it's the writing. Clark's mistake was letting her walk out. I stand by that.

[thehenry89]

Again, you make no sense.

She doesn't know what he's capable of she just found out his DNA was indestructable.

She just knows he's sent hear to kill Clark. She's not kryptonian. She hasn't read the comic books.

Again, you act as if Chloe has a superman comic book collection.

She's not kryptonian so she doesn't know what he's capable of if he gets to Clark.

Why was she testing his DNA if she knows what he's capable of? You're not making sense.

:lol: that's all I have to say.

I've never been a person to tilt at windmills and obviously you aren't reading anything I've written. I suggest you rewatch eternal and the part in last weeks episode where she has to dispose of the body of that thug that tried to kill her.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

She doesn't know what he's capable of she just found out his DNA was indestructable.

She just knows he's sent hear to kill Clark.

this ^^^^ answers that \/\/\/


She's not kryptonian so she doesn't know what he's capable of if he gets to Clark.

[Malicieux Toutou]

but I truly think that Chloe believes she has the best chance of saving Clark by keeping Davis as far away from him, and as close to her, as possible. She's sacrificing, once again, her chance at happiness and being with her friends and the man she REALLY loves (I still say she loves Clark) and potentially putting herself in harm's way to protect them, and the world.

Davis was on his way to the PZ where Clark and the rest of the world would be safe from him.

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This show is always ambiguous, tonight I really felt they gave a scene that was unambiguous.

If it was so unambiguous, then I would think that "helping Clark" would have more than 26% of the votes.

[thehenry89]

count to 100 slowly, woosa *Breath In, Breath Out* :lol:

:rotfl: I'm trying I really am.

[Polomontana]

Did you even watch the episode tonight?

She tested his DNA. She doesn't know what he's capable of and she's trying to figure it out so she can stop him.

Did she know his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it?

No, she obviously thought his DNA would show a weakness that the Dr. could exploit.

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I don't know what show you guys are watching. Chloe hasn't read the comic book.

She's knows he's a killer but she doesn't know he can't be stopped. She's not a psychic and she hasn't read the books.

If she knew everything about Davis then she wouldn't have tested his DNA.

[thehenry89]

Did you even watch the episode tonight?

She tested his DNA. She doesn't know what he's capable of and she's trying to figure it out so she can stop him.

Did she know his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it?

No, she obviously thought his DNA would show a weakness that the Dr. could exploit.

obviously I did and I watched eternal and I watched stilletto two instances where she saw the true davis, and she even disposed of the bodies parts of one of his victims rewatch the episode if you don't belive me.

maybe you should rewatch those episodes.

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I don't know what show you guys are watching. Chloe hasn't read the comic book.

She's knows he's a killer but she doesn't know he can't be stopped. She's not a psychic and she hasn't read the books.

If she knew everything about Davis then she wouldn't have tested his DNA.

She knows he's doomsday watch eternal!

[Polomontana]

obviously I did and I watched eternal and I watched stilletto two instances where she saw the true davis, and she even disposed of the bodies parts of one of his victims rewatch the episode if you don't belive me.

maybe you should rewatch those episodes.

So she knows that he can kill people but she doesn't know what he's capable of. She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

Get your head out of the comic book. She's not reading a book on Doomsday.

She's still trying to figure him out in order to save Clark.

She feels if she keeps Davis from Clark she can figure out a way to stop him. She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

[thehenry89]

So she knows that he can kill people but she doesn't know what he's capable of. She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

Get your head out of the comic book. She's not reading a book on Doomsday.

She's still trying to figure him out in order to save Clark.

She feels if she keeps Davis from Clark she can figure out a way to stop him. She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

of for the love of zod, I'm not even talking about anything from the comics watch eternal ok because it explains everything quite nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXO5kU1Tm-U&feature=related


and besides she saw him rip some guy apart in stilletto

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Did you even watch the episode tonight?

She tested his DNA. She doesn't know what he's capable of and she's trying to figure it out so she can stop him.

Did she know his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it?

No, she obviously thought his DNA would show a weakness that the Dr. could exploit.

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I don't know what show you guys are watching. Chloe hasn't read the comic book.

She's knows he's a killer but she doesn't know he can't be stopped. She's not a psychic and she hasn't read the books.

If she knew everything about Davis then she wouldn't have tested his DNA.

of course davis has a weakness its for dumb blondes who dont know any better :lol:

eternal

davis: i dont want to live like this!

clark: davis dont die a martyr

tonight if only

clark: here i have the answer for you *opens PZ*

davis: whats this?

clark: a holiday camp, chloes waiting on you!

*davis jumps in*

:lol:

[Polomontana]

of for the love of zod, I'm not even talking about anything from the comics watch eternal ok because it explains everything quite nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXO5kU1Tm-U&feature=related


and besides she saw him rip some guy apart.

Again, she doesn't know he can't be stopped.

Doomsday means something different to you because you read the comic book.

She tried to kill him.

She got a DNA sample to look for a weakness.

She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

You are looking at it from your perspective. Chloe doesn't know what you know because she hasn't read the Wikipedia page on Doomsday.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Again, she doesn't know he can't be stopped.

Doomsday means something different to you because you read the comic book.

She tried to kill him.

She got a DNA sample to look for a weakness.

She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

You are looking at it from your perspective. Chloe doesn't know what you know because she hasn't read the Wikipedia page on Doomsday.

im sure i read this post before *scratches head* oh yeah you said it a few times already :lol:

[thehenry89]

Again, she doesn't know he can't be stopped.

Doomsday means something different to you because you read the comic book.

She tried to kill him.

She got a DNA sample to look for a weakness.

She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

You are looking at it from your perspective. Chloe doesn't know what you know because she hasn't read the Wikipedia page on Doomsday.

"Jor-el said he was the ultimate destroyer"

clark to chloe episode 18 season 8 "Eternal"

She knows.

Watch the clip or don't depending on weither you're actually debating or you're just arguing a moot point.

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im sure i read this post before *scratches head* oh yeah you said it a few times already :lol:

:lol: to quote paul newman from "cat on a hot tin roof"

"we're talking in circles but we have nothing to say to each other"

[Polomontana]

im sure i read this post before *scratches head* oh yeah you said it a few times already :lol:

Of course I have because it's not sinking in.

You guys keep speaking like Chloe is familiar with the comic book Doomsday.

This makes no sense.

If you watched the episode tonight, she was looking for a weakness. She thinks she can stop him if she keeps him away from Clark.

She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

"Jor-el said he was the ultimate destroyer"

clark to chloe episode 18 season 8 "Eternal"

She knows.

Watch the clip or don't depending on weither you're actually debating or you're just arguing a moot point

:lol: to quote paul newman from "cat on a hot tin roof"

"we're talking in circles but we have nothing to say to each other"

its like a deaf guy talking sign language to a blind guy :lol:

[thehenry89]

its like a deaf guy talking sign language to a blind guy :lol:

:rotfl: yup

[Polomontana]

"Jor-el said he was the ultimate destroyer"

clark to chloe episode 18 season 8 "Eternal"

She knows.

Watch the clip or don't depending on weither you're actually debating or you're just arguing a moot point.

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:lol: to quote paul newman from "cat on a hot tin roof"

"we're talking in circles but we have nothing to say to each other"

He said he was the Ultimate Destroyer, not that he couldn't be stopped.

Again, you're looking at this from your perspective.

The ultimate destroyer doesn't mean he can't be stopped. That's why she tried to find a weakness in his DNA. She doesn't know.

[thehenry89]

Of course I have because it's not sinking in.

You guys keep speaking like Chloe is familiar with the comic book Doomsday.

This makes no sense.

If you watched the episode tonight, she was looking for a weakness. She thinks she can stop him if she keeps him away from Clark.

She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXO5kU1Tm-U&feature=related

I'm begging you before you write another post please please please watch this clip.

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He said he was the Ultimate Destroyer, not that he couldn't be stopped.

Again, you're looking at this from your perspective.

The ultimate destroyer doesn't mean he can't be stopped. That's why she tried to find a weakness in his DNA. She doesn't know.

Doomsday can be stopped I don't know when or how that idea entered the conversation.

and besides if someone tells me that the ultimate destroyer is after me I'm defenitley not gonna be cool with my best friend hiding him in their basment.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Of course I have because it's not sinking in.

You guys keep speaking like Chloe is familiar with the comic book Doomsday.

This makes no sense.

If you watched the episode tonight, she was looking for a weakness. She thinks she can stop him if she keeps him away from Clark.

She doesn't know he can't be stopped.

forget the comics all im focusing on is the season finale where your favourite quote of the evening "chloe calms the beast" will be pointless :lol:

[SVFancross]

If it was so unambiguous, then I would think that "helping Clark" would have more than 26% of the votes.

Really? The strongly formed opinions are pretty resolute in their beliefs and after years of ambiguity they are slow to change. The polls seem consistent with those strongly held beliefs --- and I'll add an IMO on this.

I thought "There's only one Lois Lane" was unambiguous and yet there were still people who didn't see it that way.

[NaYa]

Chloe just needs to realize she can't be the hero. That's what's Clark is for. She needs to get the hell out of the way and let Clark handle the situation.

Well, if only Clark would have the you know what b...ls to become a hero and save the day then Chloe would not have to handle his business. Clark needs to grow some and become the hero we all know he is destined to be. Chloe is more of a hero than Clark has ever been on Smallville. Clark's inability to make decisions always leads other people to take care of his work. He's so self righteous I can't stand it always judging others for their decisions...he's just mad because he's incapable of doing it himself.

[Violet-Shadow]

I think it's her seriously misguided attempt at protecting Clark. But...seriously misguided. Chloe, Chloe, Chloe. *shakes head*

[Polomontana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXO5kU1Tm-U&feature=related

I'm begging you before you write another post please please please watch this clip.

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Doomsday can be stopped

and besides if someone tells me that the ultimate destroyer is after me I'm defenitley not gonna be cool with my best friend hiding him in their basment.

I don't even think you're watching the show.

He's the ultimate destroyer but he doesn't go on killing spree's when he's around Chloe.

She knows he's here to destroy Clark and she's protecting Clark.

Again, what show are you watching?

He calms down when he's around Chloe and that's what she presently knows.

[BkWurm1]

Chloe is first against Clark sending Davis to the phantom zone because she thinks it could backfire and Clark could wind up in the PZ. But that wasn't an issue when she pulled the plug. Now her reason for being against it is because Clark would never forgive himself. Really? Not very convincing Chloe.

I think it is important to remember that if Chloe hadn't shown up when she did Clark WOULD be stuck in the phantom zone. Maybe there was a moment when she showed up when Clark could have tossed Davis in without being sucked in too, but that moment passed real quick. Davis was dead set against going without Chloe and I'm sure Clark was dead set against Chloe going, so Dooms would have come out to play and we would still end up with Clark in the PZ.

Chloe is doing everything to protect Clark.

[thehenry89]

I don't even think you're watching the show.

He's the ultimate destroyer but he doesn't go on killing spree's when he's around Chloe.

She knows he's here to destroy Clark and she's protecting Clark.

Again, what show are you watching?

He calms down when he's around Chloe and that's what she presently knows.

I watch the show the only difference is that I'm watching and listening.

[luvck]

Did you even watch the episode tonight?

Yes


She tested his DNA. She doesn't know what he's capable of and she's trying to figure it out so she can stop him.

She seen him die and then show up at her doorstep. Proof that she should run for help.


Did she know his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it?

Well he died and came back to life. That would be a given.


No, she obviously thought his DNA would show a weakness that the Dr. could exploit.

Why? He didn't die.

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I don't know what show you guys are watching. Chloe hasn't read the comic book.

I am not quite sure we are watching the same show. If she has read the comics, she would be shocked to not find herself in them.


She's knows he's a killer but she doesn't know he can't be stopped. She's not a psychic and she hasn't read the books.

Well, then she's just not smart because once again he zombied her.

Yeah, but Chloe knows for a fact that she can control him.:\


If she knew everything about Davis then she wouldn't have tested his DNA.

She knew enough about him before she tested it. She knew there was a monster inside. She was trying to find a cure. There isn't one and now she is the all knowing one who thinks she can control it.

It's gonna turn bad.


She has enough proof of what he can do.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

I don't even think you're watching the show.

He's the ultimate destroyer but he doesn't go on killing spree's when he's around Chloe.

She knows he's here to destroy Clark and she's protecting Clark.

Again, what show are you watching?

He calms down when he's around Chloe and that's what she presently knows.

he calms down around chloe damn why did he not change back to davis at the barn in "bride" :eek::lol:

i bet that mobster davis took into the basement is tied up down there, the bags chloe dumped was molded leftovers from the fridge :lol:

[thehenry89]

he calms down around chloe damn why did he not change back to davis at the barn in "bride" :eek::lol:

i bet that mobster davis took into the basement is tied up down there, the bags chloe dumped was molded leftovers from the fridge :lol:

Or opened cans of speghetti-o's :lol:

[Polomontana]

Yes



She seen him die and then show up at her doorstep. Proof that she should run for help.



Well he died and came back to life. That would be a given.



Why? He didn't die.

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I am not quite sure we are watching the same show. If she has, she would be shocked to not find herself in them. No, this is a show that refers to them.



Well, then she's just not smart because once again he zombied her.

Yeah, but she can know for a fact that she can control him.:\



She knew enough about him before she tested it. She knew there was a monster inside. She was trying to find a cure. There isn't one and now she is the all knowing one who thinks she can control it.

It's gonna turn bad.


She has enough proof of what he can do.

Why do you think she's hanging around him?

She knows her presence calms him down.

Of course it's going to turn bad but she doesn't know this.

Like I said, you have to get your head out of the comic book.

She doesn't know these things, she just knows he's a killer here to kill Clark and her presence calms him down.

She's not psychic. She tested his DNA because she doesn't know.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Why do you think she's hanging around him?

She knows her presence calms him down.

Of course it's going to turn bad but she doesn't know this.

Like I said, you have to get your head out of the comic book.

She doesn't know these things, she just knows he's a killer here to kill Clark and her presence calms him down.

She's not psychic. She tested his DNA because she doesn't know.

are you using copy and paste because you keep saying the same things over and over again :lol:

[luvck]

WOW!!! Nevermind:eek:

[Polomontana]

he calms down around chloe damn why did he not change back to davis at the barn in "bride" :eek::lol:

i bet that mobster davis took into the basement is tied up down there, the bags chloe dumped was molded leftovers from the fridge :lol:

Again, you don't watch the show.

He was taking Chloe out of the barn and he changed when he got her alone.

I know you try to use humor because your argument is weak but that's fine.

I don't mind doing Smallville trivia. I wish you would watch the show though.

[luvck]

are you using copy and paste because you keep saying the same things over and over again :lol:

Looks that way.

[thehenry89]

are you using copy and paste because you keep saying the same things over and over again :lol:

Like I said I"ve never been one to tilt at windmills

But seriously what does "ultimate destoyer" mean to you?

A. a kind of vacum cleaner
B. a cocktail
c. the name of a kryptonian experiment sent by zod and phaora to destroy the son of jor-el and all man kind
d. a cuddly puppy

[Polomontana]

I have to say some of the same things because you guys are not making sense.

Your talking from your perspective not Chloe's. How does she know these things?

How does she know she can't stop this if she keeps Davis away from Clark?

You're not making sense.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Again, you don't watch the show.

He was taking Chloe out of the barn and he changed when he got her alone.

I know you try to use humor because your argument is weak but that's fine.

I don't mind doing Smallville trivia. I wish you would watch the show though.

my arguement is weak ok im not the 1 saying "chloe calms the beast" in every post

i know from having read the season finale spoilers chloe cant keep the monster calm :cool::lol:

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Like I said I"ve never been one to tilt at windmills

But seriously what does "ultimate destoyer" mean to you?

A. a kind of vacum cleaner
B. a cocktail
c. the name of a kryptonian experiment sent by zod and phaora to destroy the son of jor-el and all man kind
d. a cuddly puppy

i say E: a gremlin, keep the furry guy dry and the monsters dont come out :lol:

[thehenry89]

Again, you don't watch the show.

He was taking Chloe out of the barn and he changed when he got her alone.

I know you try to use humor because your argument is weak but that's fine.

I don't mind doing Smallville trivia. I wish you would watch the show though.

Right.

well throw some smallvile triva at me and see if you can stump this Superman fan.

[SVFancross]

Now her reason for being against it is because Clark would never forgive himself. Really?

Absolutely. This woman knows Clark as well as he knows himself (perhaps better). HOW many times has she pinched him off this year when he went on a guilt trip.

I think this episode showed that Chloe understands that Clark not only can't kill, he can't be unjust. When she said Clark would never forgive himself for condemning Davis to a life of torture she was spot on.

So many people think Clark should kill Doomsday. That is so NOT Superman. Superman also gives multiple chances and he is humane. Clark is not Superman yet and he's trying to find the "third" option. Chloe knows the PZ wasn't the right choice.

And yes, I will acknowledge that in Chloe's mind the priorities would have been:
1) Prevent Clark from going to the PZ and THEN
2) Prevent Clark from undermining his own ethics.

Once Davis was depowered, Clark could have tossed him in. He LET them go because he agreed with her.

[Polomontana]

Like I said I"ve never been one to tilt at windmills

But seriously what does "ultimate destoyer" mean to you?

A. a kind of vacum cleaner
B. a cocktail
c. the name of a kryptonian experiment sent by zod and phaora to destroy the son of jor-el and all man kind
d. a cuddly puppy

The ultimate destroyer doesn't mean that Chloe can't stop him if she keeps him away from Clark. She knows that she calms him down.

I wish you would watch the show and you would know these things.

How can Chloe know she can't keep him from Clark if he calms down around her?

That's what she knows right now.

[luvck]

Again, you don't watch the show.

He was taking Chloe out of the barn and he changed when he got her alone.

I know you try to use humor because your argument is weak but that's fine.

I don't mind doing Smallville trivia. I wish you would watch the show though.


I don't think that people are being weak with there arguements. I understand that you have your views and I have mine. Just as the poster you quoted does.

But to say that you wish we would watch the show is an insult. I did and I don't see what you are trying to debate. You keep going in circles and that is fine. But saying that people should watch the show is quite weak in of itself because it is one of your arguements and along with the fact that Chloe hasn't read the comics:rotfl:

[Malicieux Toutou]

Really? The strongly formed opinions are pretty resolute in their beliefs and after years of ambiguity they are slow to change. The polls seem consistent with those strongly held beliefs --- and I'll add an IMO on this.

I thought "There's only one Lois Lane" was unambiguous and yet there were still people who didn't see it that way.

I think it's slightly more than 26% who accept that Lois is Lois. I think there was a new poll on this after Hex and it was something like 95%.

One of the writers even said that they want Chloe's motivations to be ambiguous.

I think if Chloe HAD to choose between Clark and Davis, she would choose Clark. But I also think that if Davis was ugly, he'd be in the phantom zone right now. She's having sex dreams about him... obviously she can't analyze the situation dispassionately. Chloe's a genius until any good looking guy shows her any attention, and then she's an idiot.

[Indy88]

Chloe must have feelings for Davis to stop Clark from sending him to the Phantom Zone. I was appalled she saved him.

[Kschreck]

I think it's a mix of both but the side that wants to protect Davis is putting the world in danger now and even Clark since Chloe wouldn't let him vanish Davis to the Phantom Zone.

[thehenry89]

The ultimate destroyer doesn't mean that Chloe can't stop him if she keeps him away from Clark. She knows that she calms him down.

I wish you would watch the show and you would know these things.

How can Chloe know she can't keep him from Clark if he calms down around her?

That's what she knows right now.

She knows who he is

she knows who created him

she knows why he's here

and its more than apparant that she can't control him because she left the house for like an hour and he was shaking like a crackhead and trying to remove jimmy's eyes from the sockets she knows all that I.E the viewer (that's me and the 3.4 million other people that watch on a weekly basis) know all that. How you can still promote this flat earth argument is beyond me. Chloe's not stupid but she's not making good descsions either.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

I have to say some of the same things because you guys are not making sense.

Your talking from your perspective not Chloe's. How does she know these things?

How does she know she can't stop this if she keeps Davis away from Clark?

You're not making sense.

aw why doesnt chloe just marry the damn thing then if it makes you happy, she can go on a honeymoon to space as a gift from ollie and not come back :lol:

[thehenry89]

my arguement is weak ok im not the 1 saying "chloe calms the beast" in every post

i know from having read the season finale spoilers chloe cant keep the monster calm :cool::lol:

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i say E: a gremlin, keep the furry guy dry and the monsters dont come out :lol:

Well she does feed him after midnight :lol:

[Polomontana]

I don't think that people are being weak with there arguements. I understand that you have your views and I have mine. Just as the poster you quoted does.

But to say that you wish we would watch the show is an insult. I did and I don't see what you are trying to debate. You keep going in circles and that is fine. But saying that people should watch the show is quite weak in of itself because it is one of your arguements and along with the fact that Chloe hasn't read the comics:rotfl:


I say that because it doesn't make sense to ask about Davis in the barn when he was taking her out of the barn. That was simple.

It doesn't make sense to act like Chloe reads spoilers on this website.

She doesn't know it's going to end bad.

She just knows her presence calms him and if she keeps him away from Clark it could help.

These are obvious things from the show.

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She knows who he is

she knows who created him

she knows why he's here

and its more than apparant that she can't control him because she left the house for like an hour and he was shaking like a crackhead and trying to remove jimmy's eyes from the sockets she knows all that I.E the viewer (that's me and the 3.4 million other people that watch on a weekly basis) know all that. How you can still promote this flat earth argument is beyond me. Chloe's not stupid but she's not making good descsions either.

Did you even hear what the Dr. told her tonight?

Do you know how many people he killed when he was not around Chloe?

What are you talking about?

She feels if she get him away from Clark she can figure something out to stop or slow things down.

I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

I say that because it doesn't make sense to ask about Davis in the barn when he was taking her out of the barn. That was simple.

if this \/\/\/ was true, that ^^^^^ wouldnt have happened he would have changed back


She just knows her presence calms him and if she keeps him away from Clark it could help.
.

[Mary Sullivan]

She totally is doing it for Clark. The episode was clear, imo.

[thehenry89]

Did you even hear what the Dr. told her tonight?

Do you know how many people he killed when he was not around Chloe?

What are you talking about?

She feels if she get him away from Clark she can figure something out to stop or slow things down.

I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about.

She knows he's a murderer

she knows he's the ultimate destroyer

she knows zod and phaora built him

she knows he is uncontrolable her dream said as much and the fact that ollie and jimmy almost got killed because she left for like an hour god forbid she has to go to the bathroom or she gets sick and has to go to a hosptial.

I've said it before a tiger is going to act like a tiger, just because you put a cute leash on it doesn't make it any less ferocious.

[scifigirl]

I personally think that she is rationalizing her actions to herself by telling herself that she is doing it for Clark. I think her real motives are quite a bit fuzzier.

[Supes_24]

Chloe shouldn't be messing around with that type of power. She should know that.

How anyone can try an rationalize that keeping a thing like that on Earth is better then sending them to the most sophisticated Prison ever created in the universe is beyond me


It just seems like the best option to satisfy all parties....but apparently Chloe thinks her wisdom and years of "sidekicking" it up with Clark grant her the right to make this decision and overrule everybody else


And WTF Clark...be the hero your supposed to be and start making your own decisions, quit letting people step on your judgment

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

I've said it before a tiger is going to act like a tiger, just because you put a cute leash on it doesn't make it any less ferocious.

better yet you dont stick your hand in a fish tank with piranhas and expect to get your hand back :lol:

[Polomontana]

She knows he's a murderer

she knows he's the ultimate destroyer

she knows zod and phaora built him

she knows he is uncontrolable her dream said as much and the fact that ollie and jimmy almost got killed because she left for like an hour god forbid she has to go to the bathroom or she gets sick and has to go to a hosptial.

I've said it before a tiger is going to act like a tiger, just because you put a cute leash on it doesn't make it any less ferocious.

So what? What does she know now?

She knows when she's around him he calms down.

She heard that from the Dr. tonight.

She knows how many people he killed when he wasn't with her.

She doesn't know she can't keep him away from Clark and try to stop or slow him down. He slows down around her and she hasn't read the spoilers.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Chloe shouldn't be messing around with that type of power. She should know that.

How anyone can try an rationalize that keeping a thing like that on Earth is better then sending them to the most sophisticated Prison ever created in the universe is beyond me


It just seems like the best option to satisfy all parties....but apparently Chloe thinks her wisdom and years of "sidekicking" it up with Clark grant her the right to make this decision and overrule everybody else


And WTF Clark...be the hero your supposed to be and start making your own decisions

im just expecting davis to turn into doomsday and take chloe up a skyscraper like kingkong

:lol:

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So what? What does she know now?

She knows when she's around him he calms down.

She heard that from the Dr. tonight.

She knows how many people he killed when he wasn't with her.

She doesn't know she can't keep him away from Clark and try to stop or slow him down. He slows down around her and she hasn't read the spoilers.

somebody give me a whiteflag i want to surrender :lol::rotfl:

[topping82]

It's clear to me that Chloe is doing it for both. Her dream tells us exactly how she's thinking.

In her dream, Chloe reveals her feelings for Davis, and she does what she really wants to do in real life. In other words, make out with Davis. They clearly have a lot of passion for each other.

BUT Chloe doesn't "make out" with Davis in her waking life, because of the last part of her dream. She fears what Davis is capable of, especially in relation to Clark.

Oliver read Chloe's signals pretty clearly in this episode. If she was "only" doing it for Clark, she would have let Clark send him to the PZ. But no, Chloe also wants to help Davis. She's just afraid she won't be able to.

Chloe doesn't even get angry at Davis for hurting Jimmy and Oliver. She blames herself.

The episode is meant to be Casablanca-ish. We're not supposed to know "exactly" where she stands. But to me, the dream was a MAJOR clue.

We were seeing the inner struggle of Chloe Sullivan. On the one hand she does love Davis and wants to be with him. But on the other, she still does love Clark and would do anything for him. Plus, she's afraid of letting herself "go" with Davis in the physical sense, because she knows what he's been programmed to do.

Well anyway, Chloe is helping both. Of that I'm convinced. But the writers certainly want to make us question. But the dream gave me all the answers, because I felt it was a true reflection of her own desires and fears.

[thehenry89]

So what? What does she know now?

She knows when she's around him he calms down.

She heard that from the Dr. tonight.

She knows how many people he killed when he wasn't with her.

She doesn't know she can't keep him away from Clark and try to stop or slow him down. He slows down around her and she hasn't read the spoilers.

And she also knows that the effect isn't as powerful as it was before I.E davis is growing a tolerance for her "calming effect".

She knows that he's a murderer and that he's here to kill clark, she knows he's immortal, she knows he can't be killed she knows her power is waning and yet when she was given a sane solution I.E the phantom zone with which to dispose of davis, what does she do? She shuts it down because she can't stand the thought of poor serial murdering doomsday being all alone and freightend.

I want to bring up another point as well, chloe arrived after davis threatened to put clark in the PZ so the argument that she was trying to keep clark out of there is null and void.

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somebody give me a whiteflag i want to surrender :lol::rotfl:

or an asprin:\

[Polomontana]

Chloe shouldn't be messing around with that type of power. She should know that.

How anyone can try an rationalize that keeping a thing like that on Earth is better then sending them to the most sophisticated Prison ever created in the universe is beyond me


It just seems like the best option to satisfy all parties....but apparently Chloe thinks her wisdom and years of "sidekicking" it up with Clark grant her the right to make this decision and overrule everybody else


And WTF Clark...be the hero your supposed to be and start making your own decisions, quit letting people step on your judgment


Chloe has no choice but to mess with that kind of power.

She's in the middle of a kryptonian storm and she has to get involved. He slows down around her.

How many people did he kill when she wasn't around vs. when she was around.

She knows about Clark, she has dealt with Braniac and she's a human. Davis chose her.

Half of the time Clark is coming to her for advice, she has no choice.

[DavidM2]

To me, it's clear she is doing it for Clark. I thought the final scene explained it...Mopey Clark would regret sending Davis to a foreign prison for eternity, and Chloe saved him the drama. I'll admit, I'm sure some of her conviction is caused by her not wanting to give up on Davis, but that is what Clark himself would normally do.

[SVFancross]

I think it's slightly more than 26% who accept that Lois is Lois. I think there was a new poll on this after Hex and it was something like 95%.Based on thread titles, other polls, and avi's of posters here --- that doesn't surprise me at all.

Reviewing the final moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJif1utnbWc

Chloe steels herself with a deep breath as she walks before getting back into the car w/ Davis. How does that say anything but "faking it" is beyond me. Her forced smile when accepting the (kindof pitiful) chocolate heart was pretty obvious too. If Chloe was convinced this was a good thing she'd give a more genuine smile and squeeze Davis' hand or something similar and she certainly wouldn't be taking that breath before getting in the car.

ETA:

Oliver read Chloe's signals pretty clearly in this episode. If she was "only" doing it for Clark, she would have let Clark send him to the PZ.

Ollie doesn't "get" Clark. He's still advocating killing Davis. Superman doesn't kill and Ollie can be a great guy but he is no Superman --- it's Clark's heart that makes him who he is. Chloe gets it but knows she could never convince Ollie of it.

[borednow]

She's doing it for herself. Because she wants to be able to save the savior and be super special and she because she is in love with being miserable... that's the only conclusion I can come up with.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

or an asprin:\

good idea i think i'll need to OD on them :lol:

[Polomontana]

And she also knows that the effect isn't as powerful as it was before I.E davis is growing a tolerance for her "calming effect".

She knows that he's a murderer and that he's here to kill clark, she knows he's immortal, she knows he can't be killed she knows her power is waning and yet when she was given a sane solution I.E the phantom zone with which to dispose of davis, what does she do? She shuts it down because she can't stand the thought of poor serial murdering doomsday being all alone and freightend.

I want to bring up another point as well, chloe arrived after davis threatened to put clark in the PZ so the argument that she was trying to keep clark out of there is null and void.

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or an asprin:\

Wrong again,

Clark and Chloe talked about him being thrown in the PZ before the scene at the fortress. Clark knew that Davis could throw him in the PZ.

If you have it on DVR maybe you can watch the scene again.

[thehenry89]

Wrong again,

Clark and Chloe talked about him being thrown in the PZ before the scene at the fortress. Clark knew that Davis could throw him in the PZ.

If you have it on DVR maybe you can watch the scene again.

I'm curious did either of them bring up the possibility of clark being locked in the zone?

[luvck]

So what? What does she know now?

She knows when she's around him he calms down.

She heard that from the Dr. tonight.

She knows how many people he killed when he wasn't with her.

She doesn't know she can't keep him away from Clark and try to stop or slow him down. He slows down around her and she hasn't read the spoilers.



So What? She KNOWS what he can do.

She is not for certain that she can KEEP him calm. It is an unknown. She can in the moment, but it could change, because as we know from Bloodline he only gets stronger. She doesn't know that, but she should understand that nothing is a guarantee. If she can't tame him, he will go after Clark and many others on top of the ones he already killed. The zone looks like the better option.

I am done with this. Say what you will, but Clark's character took the hit in this episode, sadly. I want Clark written well, he was going good there for awhile and then it went south:\

OH...We know she hasn't read the spoilers. Seriously?!?

[Polomontana]

Another thing, Chloe just found out tonight why her presence calms Davis.

The Dr. told her that love or obsession might calm him and she said that's which is why my presence stops him from morphing.

She feels if she hides him away his love for her will stop him.

I hope you didn't miss the scene with the Dr.

The Dr. even told her it's all on you.

Again, you have to look at this from Chloe's perspective not yours.

[topping82]

Based on thread titles, other polls, and avi's of posters here --- that doesn't surprise me at all.

Reviewing the final moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJif1utnbWc

Chloe steels herself with a deep breath as she walks before getting back into the car w/ Davis. How does that say anything but "faking it" is beyond me. Her forced smile when accepting the (kindof pitiful) chocolate heart was pretty obvious too. If Chloe was convinced this was a good thing she'd give a more genuine smile and squeeze Davis' hand or something similar and she certainly wouldn't be taking that breath before getting in the car.

I don't think Chloe wants to leave her friends and Smallville, which is why she definitely puts on the forced smile. But she also doesn't want to hurt Davis and she does have feelings for him.

Even Clark saying that she "couldn't" actually have feelings for Davis sounded hollow, like he was lying to himself. Oliver gave him such clear looks of, "how dense are you going to be?"

That and it's clear Clark does have feelings for Chloe that even Oliver could see.

I really think Chloe is trying to save both Clark and Davis. I think her dream showed us her inner desires and fears. She wants Davis on one hand, but she also fears what he is capable of on the other. Clark's "death" could also be symbolic of her finally letting him go in her waking life to embrace her own life of "passion" and "awareness."

[lana 9]

i think it is both

[thehenry89]

Another thing, Chloe just found out tonight why her presence calms Davis.

The Dr. told her that love or obsession might calm him and she said that's which is why my presence stops him from morphing.

She feels if she hides him away his love for her will stop him.

I hope you didn't miss the scene with the Dr.

The Dr. even told her it's all on you.

Again, you have to look at this from Chloe's perspective not yours.

he told her itmight help, and then he said it would be wise to inform oliver about this development and chloe threatend to sick doomsday on him

[SVFancross]

That and it's clear Clark does have feelings for Chloe that even Oliver could see.

Ollie's double take surprised me I must admit. They aren't "going there" or Chloe is dead (or taken to the future) as it's Clois-or-bust as far as I can tell for this show. I don't know why they would have that "double take" in there except maybe to have Ollie have some doubts about Clark's reasoning when it comes to Chloe. IDK.

[Polomontana]

I'm curious did either of them bring up the possibility of clark being locked in the zone?

Yep, Chloe told Clark that if he opens the portal it can suck him in and he's too important to the world. Clark said it's for the good of the world and Chloe said we can't risk losing you is not good for the world.

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he told her itmight help, and then he said it would be wise to inform oliver about this development and chloe threatend to sick doomsday on him

Yep, and what do you expect?

She's just been told that his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it and that her presence might be the only thing that can help.

This is what she knows right know. Her presence = a calmer Davis.

[thehenry89]

Yep, Chloe told Clark that if he opens the portal it can suck him in and he's too important to the world. Clark said it's for the good of the world and Chloe said we can't risk losing you is not good for the world.

And what did clark do? he opened the portal anyway...so he figured

A). I would rather die than let this killer go free or

B). I can trap davis and escape through the portal my dad put in he PZ for just such an emergency, the portal that I told chloe about when I came back in Zod, and bloodline.


It's not like he caught the greyhound home. He obviously thought it was worth the risk, and chloe didn't want to loose davis so she said no.

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Yep, and what do you expect?

She's just been told that his DNA gets stronger when you try to destroy it and that her presence might be the only thing that can help.

This is what she knows right know. Her presence = a calmer Davis.

her presence might equal a calmer davis, now that's a bigger variable than anything. she's gambling with the lives of billions of people on earth and all over the universe on something that MIGHT work, but god forbid poor davis be locked up in prison where all the other serial killers go. :rolleyes:

[Polomontana]

And what did clark do? he opened the portal anyway...so he figured

A). I would rather die than let this killer go free or

B). I can trap davis and escape through the portal my dad put in he PZ for just such an emergency, the portal that I told chloe about when I came back in Zod, and bloodline.


It's not like he caught the greyhound home. He obviously thought it was worth the risk, and chloe didn't want to loose davis so she said no.

Again, what are you talking about?

She didn't want to lose Clark and she told him so.

She doesn't know if Davis has an escape route.

She doesn't know if Davis would kill Clark in the Phantom Zone.

She's going by what she knows and she also knows that she has to pull Clarks feet out of the fire again and again.

The best way she see's is what the Dr. just told her. Her presence might be the best option because his DNA gets stronger when destroyed.

She feels the risk is to big if Clark gets sucked into the Phantom Zone.

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Also, the Dr. didn't say might.

He said, it's all on you and you're the only cure.

She had no other choice.

[topping82]

Ollie's double take surprised me I must admit. They aren't "going there" or Chloe is dead (or taken to the future) as it's Clois-or-bust as far as I can tell for this show. I don't know why they would have that "double take" in there except maybe to have Ollie have some doubts about Clark's reasoning when it comes to Chloe. IDK.

I think part of it comes down to actor interpretation. It really seemed as if Oliver was playing the scene as if he just couldn't believe Clark couldn't admit he had feelings for Chloe...still. And he also couldn't believe Clark was in denial about Chloe having feelings for Davis, and that part of the reason Clark was so upset about it was because Clark himself has feelings for her.

[thehenry89]

Again, what are you talking about?

She didn't want to lose Clark and she told him so.

She doesn't know if Davis has an escape route.

She doesn't know if Davis would kill Clark in the Phantom Zone.

She's going by what she knows and she also knows that she has to pull Clarks feet out of the fire again and again.

The best way she see's is what the Dr. just told her. Her presence might be the best option because his DNA gets stronger when destroyed.

She feels the risk is to big if Clark gets sucked into the Phantom Zone.


We've already had this discussion, and saying "what are you talking about" doesn't make your argument more valid and mine less. As far as the PZ is concerned clark can get out davis can't chloe knows this her motivaton for keeping davis out was to keep him with her end of story her concern for clark was genuine but it was also a cover for the real reason she didn't want him locked up. She has a classic case of "battered woman syndrome" except she's not the one being battered. Never the less she still wants to save Davis and be in a relationship with him. She knows he's uncontrollable that's why she had that dream about him killing clark despite being in her basment. The doctor told her she might be able to calm him but her ability to do that is dwindling as evidenced by the preceeding scene with jimmy and oliver, and the scene where he acousts her in the street looking strung out. The parralles between jimmy's drug addiction and davis' chloe addiction are not accidental IMO. Jimmy can't go without a fix for too long other wise he cracks out, but eventually his high won't be enough and he'll have to take more and more and more. After he's exahsted that he'll have to move to a different drug. Same thing with Davis, right now chloe's presence is sating comforting, but eventually she'll have to be with him all the time and even that won't be enough his addiction will have gotten the best of him and he'll have no choice but to kill.

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Also, the Dr. didn't say might.

He said, it's all on you and you're the only cure.

She had no other choice.

And then he wanted to tell ollie and she said no and threatend him with doomsday which means she didn't want anyone else to know about what she was doing. The fact that she was going to run away with davis and not tell anyone speaks to her willingness to forsake all others for him. I'm fine with chloe calming davis (for now) but lets be realistic she didn't do this to save or protect clark she did it to save davis so she could be with him under the guise of protecting clark. "protecting clark" is the conveniant excuse for all her imorale behavior.

[The Dark Knight74]

I thinks its a mix of both.

[topping82]

I thinks its a mix of both.

Definitely.

[Polomontana]

We've already had this discussion, and saying "what are you talking about" doesn't make your argument more valid and mine less. As far as the PZ is concerned clark can get out davis can't chloe knows this her motivaton for keeping davis out was to keep him with her end of story her concern for clark was genuine but it was also a cover for the real reason she didn't want him locked up. She has a classic case of "battered woman syndrome" except she's not the one being battered. Never the less she still wants to save Davis and be in a relationship with him. She knows he's uncontrollable that's why she had that dream about him killing clark despite being in her basment. The doctor told her she might be able to calm him but her ability to do that is dwindling as evidenced by the preceeding scene with jimmy and oliver, and the scene where he acousts her in the street looking strung out. The parralles between jimmy's drug addiction and davis' chloe addiction are not accidental IMO. Jimmy can't go without a fix for too long other wise he cracks out, but eventually his high won't be enough and he'll have to take more and more and more. After he's exahsted that he'll have to move to a different drug. Same thing with Davis, right now chloe's presence is sating comforting, but eventually she'll have to be with him all the time and even that won't be enough his addiction will have gotten the best of him and he'll have no choice but to kill.

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And then he wanted to tell ollie and she said no and threatend him with doomsday which means she didn't want anyone else to know about what she was doing. The fact that she was going to run away with davis and not tell anyone speaks to her willingness to forsake all others for him. I'm fine with chloe calming davis (for now) but lets be realistic she didn't do this to save or protect clark she did it to save davis so she could be with him under the guise of protecting clark. "protecting clark" is the conveniant excuse for all her imorale behavior.


Of course she didn't want anyone to know about Davis because she's protecting Clark.

She was just told by the Dr. that she's the only cure. What do you expect?

Did you see her dream. She dreamed about kissing Davis but that was wiped away by Clark's dead and bloody body.

She didn't want to kill Davis until he threatened Clark.

It's obvious that she has some feelings for Davis but they don't come close to her loyalty to Clark.

This is why she wants to keep him away from Clark. Did you watch the final scene when she talked to Clark?

She feels if she can keep Davis away from Clark she can save Clark.

When she first saw Davis after she killed him she was about to run but Davis told her that she was the only thing that stopped him.

She realized that kryptonite can hurt Clark but not him and he was sent to earth to destroy Clark.

If you don't realize she's doing this for Clark, then there's not much more I can say.

[cloisnlove]

A little bit of both

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Also, it's clear that Clark still has some feelings for her from how hurt he was at the end and in how much denial he was in.

[claudiss]

The last scene said it`s Clark IMO. She didn`t looked happy nor excited about running away with Davis at the very last minute of the episode. That doesn´t mean she doen´t care for Davis, cause she does ,but the main reason she is leaving is to protect Clark.

[Malicieux Toutou]

part of the reason Clark was so upset about it was because Clark himself has feelings for her.

If my sister had betrayed me to protect man's ultimate destroyer, I'd be upset and in denial too.

[amalie]

It's both in my opinion.

However flawed and, quite frankly, stupid her plan is she does want to save Clark yet she's clearly lying about having feelings for Davis (evidence: the fantasy/nightmare). I think she's trying to help them both and yet ultimately she's making the situation far worse.

[borednow]

If my sister had betrayed me to protect man's ultimate destroyer, I'd be upset and in denial too.

... True story here, when my best friend since I was 2 betrayed me by telling all my secrets to her boyfriend, I wanted to believe anything else was true, I spent days fixated on it. I finally confronted her on it and ended up crying my eyes out when I said we weren't friends anymore... That was over 10 years ago and it still hurts to this very day to think about it. Was I in love with her? No, she was my BEST FRIEND!

[vikingjedi]

"Jor-el said he was the ultimate destroyer"

clark to chloe episode 18 season 8 "Eternal"

She knows.

Watch the clip or don't depending on weither you're actually debating or you're just arguing a moot point.

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:lol: to quote paul newman from "cat on a hot tin roof"

"we're talking in circles but we have nothing to say to each other"

Murder isn't the answer, thats the whole theme here. Chloe is on one side telling Clark it's wrong while Oliver is on the other side telling him it has to be done.

The only thing is Clark doesn't know that Oliver murdered Lex and Chloe murdered that meteor freak. Chloe is trying to keep Clark from going down that path because if he does he won't ever be able to forgive himself. That was the reason they showed blood on Chloe's hands last week.

Chloe is willing to do anything to keep that from happening to Clark. Her only chance to stop Doomsday was hoping to find a way to reverse Davis's transformation. Since that didn't work she has to pretend she loves him...while in reality she really loves Clark.

[desertcoyote]

I voted for both, but looking back Chloe's actions are for Clark and she's doing it in the dumbest way possible.

[BackToTheLies]

couldn't have been more obvious than Chloe still loves the hell out of Clark. Hell, I didn't even realise her feelings were ever this strong for him until this episode.

I think it's kind of a mix of doing it for Clark and doing it for the world (or Superman). Not just Clark himself.

[Ljiljana]

Clark.

That much the dialogue was clear on.

[Selina]

A bit of both...but I do think her feelings for Davis has clouded her better judgement.

If she wasn't emotionally involved with Davis, I am convinced that she would have encouraged Clark to send him to the PZ.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I think it's more Davis than Clark. It's not a 50/50 mix to me, but love is an extremely strong emotion, so I can't criticize her completely.

[melissan02]

It's both in my opinion.

However flawed and, quite frankly, stupid her plan is she does want to save Clark yet she's clearly lying about having feelings for Davis (evidence: the fantasy/nightmare). I think she's trying to help them both and yet ultimately she's making the situation far worse.

I agree, Amelie! There's no denying that Chloe has strong feelings for Davis, so to say that she's doing this for Clark only--- simply isn't true. Clark was about to send Davis to the PZ. He had things under control but Chloe stepped in more or less scolding Clark for attempting to do such a thing. Now tell me she did that for Clark....and the world?:rolleyes:

[Ella]

Definitely a little of both.

[costas22]

Until the last scene, i though that she was torn between the two of them. But now, i think that she is trying to convince Davis that she loves him(obviously she cares for him but not more than Clark) because if Davis realises that he is losing her, then Doomsday might take over for good. So i will say that she is doing it for Clark.

[amalie]

Until the last scene, i though that she was torn between the two of them. But now, i think that she is trying to convince Davis that she loves him(obviously she cares for him but not more than Clark) because if Davis realises that he is losing her, then Doomsday might take over for good. So i will say that she is doing it for Clark.


You don't think she's got any feelings for him Costas? Even after that fantasy?

[costas22]

You don't think she's got any feelings for him Costas? Even after that fantasy?

I thought it was a dream and sometimes in those you kiss people you don't really love. She might have though, i am not denying it. I just feel that she wouldn't put those feelings over her relationship with Clark. As i said, for the whole episode, i was torn about her true motives. I think that the final scene clarified it a bit. But it's not like PS3 to ever give a clear expalanation as to what's going on on their own show.

[amalie]

I thought it was a dream and sometimes in those you kiss people you don't really love. She might have though, i am not denying it. I just feel that she wouldn't put those feelings over her relationship with Clark. As i said, for the whole episode, i was torn about her true motives. I think that the final scene clarified it a bit. But it's not like PS3 to ever give a clear expalanation as to what's going on on their own show.


Fair enough, I can see it both ways :)

[costas22]

Fair enough, I can see it both ways :)

She seems very conflicted. Notice that most people see it as a combination and then as helping Clark. At least it was clear that it isn't just about Davis. I could have done without her sending Clark to Alaska though...

[amalie]

She seems very conflicted. Notice that most people see it as a combination and then as helping Clark. At least it was clear that it isn't just about Davis. I could have done without her sending Clark to Alaska though...

I definitely agree it's not all about Davis, I think she's torn between the two.

The fantasy/nightmare and the build up to Chavis we've had this season convince me that Chloe does feel something for Davis but I don't believe she would ever deliberately try to hurt Clark. When it comes down to a choice, which I assume it will, I think Clark will win out.

[costas22]

I definitely agree it's not all about Davis, I think she's torn between the two.

The fantasy/nightmare and the build up to Chavis we've had this season convince me that Chloe does feel something for Davis but I don't believe she would ever deliberately try to hurt Clark. When it comes down to a choice, which I assume it will, I think Clark will win out.

I think that at Beast they run out of ideas. It was very simple. Clark sends him to the Zone and it's over with. Chloe blocked him because he would have felt guilty? But telling him that she is running off with Doomsday to protect him won't make him feel guilty? I don't rememebr anyone shedding a tear about Curtis Knox no matter what the Martian Manhunter did with him. The writing was quite poor last night.

[AndiGirl]

She seems very conflicted. Notice that most people see it as a combination and then as helping Clark. At least it was clear that it isn't just about Davis. I could have done without her sending Clark to Alaska though...

Did anyone notice, even in the dream....she WAS going to walk away. Then Davis says his incredibly tramatic line of "The man I want to be doesnt exist without you."

I mean, talk about pressure! And it couldnt be closer to the truth...she is literally his only link to a normal life. Maybe part of the reason why she's kissing him, is to reassure him? :\