Chloe: Doing it for Clark or Davis?

[amalie]

I think that at Beast they run out of ideas. It was very simple. Clark sends him to the Zone and it's over with. Chloe blocked him because he would have felt guilty? But telling him that she is running off with Doomsday to protect him won't make him feel guilty? I don't rememebr anyone shedding a tear about Curtis Knox no matter what the Martian Manhunter did with him. The writing was quite poor last night.


That's exactly one of the points I made in the thread about Chloe being irritating in this episode. Her reasonings were flawed. Chloe prevented Clark from condemning Davis to a lifetime in the PZ and yet she rang him up to tell him she was sacraficing her life for him :confused: It just doesn't make sense so i'm guessing she has more than one motive, even if she's not admitting it.

[costas22]

Did anyone notice, even in the dream....she WAS going to walk away. Then Davis says his incredibly tramatic line of "The man I want to be doesnt exist without you."

I mean, talk about pressure! And it couldnt be closer to the truth...she is literally his only link to a normal life. Maybe part of the reason why she's kissing him, is to reassure him? :\

That's what i felt. I think that she has to make him believe that she deeply cares about him in order to calm the beast inside him. Because if Davis feels that Chloe has turned her back on him, then Doomsday might come out for good. At the same time, they have dropped some hints about her caring for him for real. But not at Clark's expense i feel.


That's exactly one of the points I made in the thread about Chloe being irritating in this episode. Her reasonings were flawed. Chloe prevented Clark from condemning Davis to a lifetime in the PZ and yet she rang him up to tell him she was sacraficing her life for him :confused: It just doesn't make sense so i'm guessing she has more than one motive, even if she's not admitting it.

I think that's where they run out of ideas. They are trying to stretch this until the finale and they only way they can do that is to have characters contradict themselves all the time.

[SupermanRox]

I think that she is doing it for Clark mostly. But I think that if she is truthful with herself, she'll admit that she has feeling for Davis. I also think she is terrified of Davis.

[myankskent]

I think that Chloe's dream at the beginning of the episode shows that she really does care about Davis, even though she realizes that he is a monster. I also think that she fears that Clark will be killed by Davis, which was shown in the dream as well. So for me, I think that it's a combination of both. Chloe is trying to protect Clark and she also has strong feelings for Davis. Here's the turning point, though, for me. When she showed up at the fortress, she proved to me that she cares about Davis more. As long as Davis is out there, there's always the chance that he will continue to kill people, which means that Clark is screwed if that were to happen. Chloe didn't care about this. She only cared about Davis not being locked up in the phantom zone and in that moment, Clark became a distant second compared to Davis in her mind, IMO.

[ekoo]

Clark, that final scene was beautiful.

[badraven]

I think that Chloe's dream at the beginning of the episode shows that she really does care about Davis, even though she realizes that he is a monster. I also think that she fears that Clark will be killed by Davis, which was shown in the dream as well. So for me, I think that it's a combination of both. Chloe is trying to protect Clark and she also has strong feelings for Davis. Here's the turning point, though, for me. When she showed up at the fortress, she proved to me that she cares about Davis more. As long as Davis is out there, there's always the chance that he will continue to kill people, which means that Clark is screwed if that were to happen. Chloe didn't care about this. She only cared about Davis not being locked up in the phantom zone and in that moment, Clark became a distant second compared to Davis in her mind, IMO.

I agree with almost everything except the take of the Fortress scene. IMO Chole is so messed up right now she doesn't really know what she is doing or why. She has made so many decisions that have turned out to be bad that she feels she is too deep in to get out. So she has decided to go deeper in. It's a bad move and I think part of her realises this. To me the defining moment of the episode was the last scene. Chole is a scared person that is drowning and, like some people do in that moment, she is pushing away the people (really person- Clark) who want to save her.

[wafflles87]

It's definitely both. If she was in it just for Clark, she would've left him deposit ol Dooms in the PZ for all eternity.

[wingster55]

A mix of both but more so Clark.
The only thing she's done for Davis is not send him to the Phantom Zone...but everything else, including leaving with Davis, is for Clark.

[Billy Jor-El]

I vote for both. She can't fathom Davis being banished to the PZ for eternity, nor can she condone him being killed. She somehow thinks that her staying close to him will prevent his ever changing and killing again, but the kiss/dream was a dark foreshadowing of what could come. Ultimately she wants to help Clark, both because of her undying feelings for him, as well as her understanding that Clark is here for a greater purpose. She may mean well, but she's playing with fire, the fire of a red sun.

[zHeN_zHeN]

Chloe's doing it for the Greater Good.

She wants to help save the world even if she can't save herself.

[Chloe Bloome]

A little from column A and a little from column B

[Davis Bloome]

I think she genuinely believes she's doing this for Clark, but as Clark said, she's doing this also because she has feelings for him, otherwise she wouldn't do this.

[SnowBird]

I think it's both. Chloe proved it in her nightmare where she would like to be with Davis romantically, but is afraid Clark is going to get killed so is trying to protect him by running away.

[vikingjedi]

I mean this statement alone at the end speaks volumes. After she told Clark that she doesn't have any feelings for Davis she says this

"Everything I do, good or bad, I do for you".

Thats WAY more than friendship.

[UnderDog]

Cue the Bryan Adams music....

[Davis Bloome]

"Everything I do, good or bad, I do for you".

Thats WAY more than friendship.
Or a delusion. Something you're thinking to make you feel better. I do think that she to a certain degree does it for Clark after all they are still great friends and it was probably tough to give that friendship up. But sacrificing so much for someone she doesn't have feelings for? To give up her life to be with Davis to save Clark. And then saying she doesn't have feelings for Davis. Seems unrealistic. She would have definately run back to Clark if she thought there wasn't another option to save a friend and/or if she didn't have romantic feelings for Davis.

[oberyn]

I think she genuinely believes she's doing this for Clark, but as Clark said, she's doing this also because she has feelings for him, otherwise she wouldn't do this.

Very well said. I think the dream sequence made it clear that, at least on a subsconscious level, Chloe's feelings for Davis are factoring heavily into this. There's a conflict there between her attraction to/feelings for Davis and her desire to protect Clark.

(Also, as Oliver pointed out to Chloe, just look at the manner in which Chloe and Davis have been interacting since Chloe has been hiding him.)

[vikingjedi]

Or a delusion. Something you're thinking to make you feel better. I do think that she to a certain degree does it for Clark after all they are still great friends and it was probably tough to give that friendship up. But sacrificing so much for someone she doesn't have feelings for? To give up her life to be with Davis to save Clark. And then saying she doesn't have feelings for Davis. Seems unrealistic. She would have definately run back to Clark if she thought there wasn't another option to save a friend and/or if she didn't have romantic feelings for Davis.

I think Chloe is completely in love with Clark, thats why her marriage with Jimmy didn't work out. When you're in love with somebody you're willing to do whatever it takes to protect them. I think Chloe genuinely believes the only way to keep Clark from dying is to keep Davis from turning into Doomsday.

She has already killed 2 people to protect him (doomsday and the meteor freak).

[ArcAngel18944]

Why can't she be trying to save both Clark AND Davis? Because then she'd be acting like...Clark!? And behaving like a "real" person and not some one-dimensional comic-book character.

Clark ALWAYS tries to save everyone and if he hadn't realised that what Chloe told him about how he'd feel re: sending Davis to the PZ was true he would not have let her stop him.

Chloe does have feelings for Davis ( ie-dream), but she will put those aside to save Clark - her actions in Eternal

She doesn't think Davis can be killed and she still hopes for a way to save him.

[Reporter]

Clark. Final scene said it all IMO.

This is my answer too.

[smallvilleusedtobegood]

I think she did it for Davis. I think her speech about doing it all for Clark was just a speech and/or a justification.

[Davis Bloome]

I think Chloe is completely in love with Clark, thats why her marriage with Jimmy didn't work out. When you're in love with somebody you're willing to do whatever it takes to protect them. I think Chloe genuinely believes the only way to keep Clark from dying is to keep Davis from turning into Doomsday.

She has already killed 2 people to protect him (doomsday and the meteor freak).
There was a time in the beginning of season 8 where I speculated if Clark still had deep feelings for Clark larger than friendship, but with the episode commitment I was convinced she was totally over him. No her marriage didn't work out because of Davis, not Clark. Now I'm not going to argue with you. Can I consider myself a Chlavis supporter if I prefer an ending that won't have them together in the end... That I just know that it won't be a happy ending? I like them together and I can see what's happening. Now you're looking at it from your perspective, likely as a Chlark supporter? Anyway I'm not going to argue your opinion, I'm just saying my two cents here...

[Selina]

She's doing it for both of them but I'd say more so Davis. If it were more about Clark than Davis, she would have sent him to the PZ which is the more logical and safer decision for all, including Clark.

[friendsita]

Defff for Clark... I'm sure, more than ever.

[snookie16]

Ia say a mix of both but for different reasons.

For Davis I would say that she cares for Davis more than she admits but would I say it love I am not sure. She know the threat that Davis posses but it just not defined yet. The storyline does have me intrigued and just waiting how it turns out. Hence the nightmare.

For Clark it more of a romantic feeling that could be the Chlarker in me but like I have said before I feel like it the first season all over agian. When things come to push to shove it always going to Clark first and foremost. There is tesion that has not come to the surface yet and it going to reach a breaking point eventually. I tend to agree with the person who made the observation in Commitment when Lois and Chloe were asked a similar question, but it was not worded in the same way.

[Mai4et0]

Of course she's helpin' Clark, she said it herself. C'mon she knows Davis for like a months and Clark for years. He's her best friend and we've seen her killing a man for him and the only thing she has for Davis is sentimental, but NOT love!

[Krypton935]

Clark. Obviously.

[oberyn]

I hope it's a mixture of both. That is, if feelings for Davis aren't clouding Chloe's judgment, then the writers have decided to inexplicably remove Chloe's capacity for logical reasoning and effective problem solving.

[marcella]

Both. She wants to protect Clark, but she cares about Davis too and doesn't want him suffering

[myankskent]

I agree with almost everything except the take of the Fortress scene. IMO Chole is so messed up right now she doesn't really know what she is doing or why. She has made so many decisions that have turned out to be bad that she feels she is too deep in to get out. So she has decided to go deeper in. It's a bad move and I think part of her realises this. To me the defining moment of the episode was the last scene. Chole is a scared person that is drowning and, like some people do in that moment, she is pushing away the people (really person- Clark) who want to save her.

I boil that FOS scene down to this...the reason why Chloe stopped Clark is because she didn't want Davis to be locked away in the phantom zone. I don't see how this was done because she wanted to protect Clark. As long as Davis is free, there is a chance that Clark will end up dead. The only way to guarantee Clark's safety is to get rid of Davis forever. Chloe's plan does not accomplish this.

[melissan02]

I boil that FOS scene down to this...the reason why Chloe stopped Clark is because she didn't want Davis to be locked away in the phantom zone. I don't see how this was done because she wanted to protect Clark. As long as Davis is free, there is a chance that Clark will end up dead. The only way to guarantee Clark's safety is to get rid of Davis forever. Chloe's plan does not accomplish this.

Chloe's changed her tune since Eternal, where she was quick to act to save Clark when she thought Davis was going to kill him, thus drenching him in a kryptonite bath. Now, in Beast, just when Clark is about to send Davis to the PZ, Chloe stops him and proceeds to scold Clark for attempting to do so. So, something in her feelings for Davis has certainly changed. Clark had control of the situation at that point and could have sent Davis on his merry way into the PZ, but that's not what Chloe wanted.
I believe Chloe knows that Clark is the hero the world needs, but because of her feelings for Davis, she's making a bad situation a whole lot worse!

[justme_007]

Clark. No doubt in my mind!

[Vindellavon]

The last scene said it all. Both their loyalties lie with each other, Clark for Chloe, and Chloe for Clark.

[rajman]

its for clark, though i dont know why chloe is handling the situation like this

[devilneedsaride]

Honestly, I don't think her actions make sense either way.

Although, after the final phone scene, I would say she's probably doing it for Clark.

[Arwenstar]

Clark is her first priority. The episode underlined this in several scenes: 1) The nightmare in the beginning showed that Chloe was afraid for Clark's death; 2) She is quiet when Davis asks her if she can handle not saying bye to Clark and if he is the most important person to her; 3) she TELLS Clark that she is doing this for him; 4) Clark believes that Chloe would never turn her back on friends; and 5) Chloe is crying and telling Clark that whatever she has done, right or wrong, it has been for HIM.

Chloe cares for Davis, this much is true. But once Clark is in danger, she does whatever is necessary to save Clark. She has killed Davis once before. Once she realized that it wasn't enough to kill him forever, she knew that she had to get Davis away from Clark--otherwise, her nightmare might just come true. Chloe is attracted to Davis, but even Chloe knows that the attraction is a deadly one. Chloe does not want to return the feelings, and I don't even think she returns the feelings. Jimmy is right: Davis is fooling himself if he thinks Chloe will fall in love with him. Chloe has been in love with Clark all along.

I'm sorry, but this is the Chloe that has put her LIFE on the line for Clark a MILLION times. Add this time to the count.

[badraven]

I boil that FOS scene down to this...the reason why Chloe stopped Clark is because she didn't want Davis to be locked away in the phantom zone. I don't see how this was done because she wanted to protect Clark. As long as Davis is free, there is a chance that Clark will end up dead. The only way to guarantee Clark's safety is to get rid of Davis forever. Chloe's plan does not accomplish this.

Again I'm with ya almost all the way. But, IMO, it isn't as clear cut. I think we both agree that Chole is trying to help/protect "Davis" and Clark. To me one of the best things about this episdoe and Chole's storyarc is that she is making huge mistakes and she is no longer doing things that are rational. People in the real world do all kinds of things that simply just don't make sense. You are right when you infer that if Chole really wanted to protect Clark as she claims she would have let Clark send "Davis" to the PZ. She wanted to protect/keep "Davis" around. But I really do think she was also trying to protect Clark too. Of course that doesn't make any sense but that happens in real life. Again- just my take.

[Luthorism]

a mix of both for sure... Well we'll see the definate answer in the season finale.. :)

[Iluvgreen]

She's doing it all for Clark.....

[Autumn]

Definitely both.

[LookUpDown]

When it comes down to it, she will always put Clark first. All you have to do is look at most of her decisions she has made over the course of this series and see Clark is means more than anything and anyone to her. She has put him ahead of herself, her family, her marriage, and her friends.

[Jill]

I think both.

[Firebunny]

I think Chloe sees the man Davis was when she first met him and who he could have been if he wasn't actually a Kryptonian killing machine. She doesn't want him to die or be forever trapped in the PZ because she hopes there's a chance that he can be 'cured.' (But the show is proving that isn't possible.)

At the same time, Clark is her top priority. As Eternal showed, she won't hesitate to destroy Davis if Clark's in immediate danger. So, I think she kept Clark from sending Davis to the PZ because she still has hope for Davis, but she left with him to protect Clark.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

I think Chloe sees the man Davis was when she first met him and who he could have been if he wasn't actually a Kryptonian killing machine. She doesn't want him to die or be forever trapped in the PZ because she hopes there's a chance that he can be 'cured.' (But the show is proving that isn't possible.)

At the same time, Clark is her top priority. As Eternal showed, she won't hesitate to destroy Davis if Clark's in immediate danger. So, I think she kept Clark from sending Davis to the PZ because she still has hope for Davis, but she left with him to protect Clark.

well chloe is now to blame for any people who becomes davis/doomsday's casualities, more so the JLA and clark the very person she wanted to protect!

[redRound]

Both.

If she were doing it for Clark, she would have protected him by helping him put Davis in the FZ. Her presence does calm the beast as we saw when she turned up. All she had to do was stand there, Davis would have normal human strength, and Clark could safely put him in the FZ

She wants to protect Clark, but she has feelings for Davis and doesn't want him hurt. She's conflicted. The decision to run away with him is stupid, what's that going to do? It doesn't even make sense. If Clark agreed not to send Davis to the FZ, (he certainly seemed to as he let them walk out of the FoS without protest), and he also doesn't want to kill him, why run from Clark? I thought it was going to end with all of them trying to figure out how to cure Davis.


Also, she was the one egging Clark on to kill Lex in previous seasons. It's so hypocrital and annoying that suddenly Davis can't be killed despite him being an even bigger threat. She clearly has feelings for him and her judgement clouded.

[bigblueplanet]

I think it's a combination of both.

[TWNik]

Chloe is sacrificing herself to protect Clark, & she is compassionate about Davis who does not want to be a killer.

Chloe has repeatedly given her life to save Clark, & she's doing it again. That's real love.

[SacredK]

A mixture, but maybe mostly for herself.

[Marissa]

For Clark, in the final scene it was pretty obvious.

[rebecavaldez]

She cares about Clark, but she is also falling in love with Davis.

[Canary]

They Both shall go to the Phantom zone. they'll have a nice life together. [davis & chloe]

[dianechicken]

Hi guys:

First time posting for me- I've watched the show on an off for years but have been glued all season long for this 8th season. I've always read the posts for years and may I say I find everyone who enjoys watching this show both articulate and fun to read! I look forward to continuing to post...

That being said, I feel that it's definitely a mixture of both. While I'm keenly aware that Clark and Chloe share this je ne sais quoi between them (IMO another Mulder and Scully type of relationship), there is also a bond forming between her and Doomy. They share a far stronger sexual chemistry than Chimmy- and that is difficult to deny. I think that ultimately TPTB will make it seem like the ultimate sacrifice for Clark, but it would be far more interesting if they allow Chloe to have this weakness for Davis.

I have to say in watching this show and many others like it, I see that the platonic relationship between a man and a woman who share chemistry is the key to a long lasting show- such as the X-files as mentioned above, Will and Grace, Stargate SG-1etc. By keeping them apart due to whatever circumstance such as unrequited love in the case of Chloe, this adds a sexual tension that is never resolved, prompting viewers to keep coming back next week. The writers know what they are doing by creating this dicotomy when they show Chloe crying at the end of the episode essentially professing her undying love for Clark. This is why the Chloe character outlasted Lana in the regular series run, because its their non consummation of their relationship that keeps the show going. I don't think the writers will ever jump the shark.

Along the way, they've allowed her to have a "safe relationship" with Jimmy that lacks the passion that she feels when she is with Davis. And for the record all of the things she's done for Davis outweigh normal "sacrifice" that you would have for a simple friend:

A. Hugs him while Jimmy is lying in a hospital bed
B. Only recogniizing Davis when she forgot who she was- not even remembering Clark
C. Cooking for and harboring a known serial killer
D. Choosing to believe Davis over Jimmy who is her HUSBAND for crying out loud

There's no way she's just a run of the mill martyr here. She is falling in love with Davis, remember he is the Kryptonian that she can actually have...and that is something that is almost impossible to resist.

[Dustmite]

They Both shall go to the Phantom zone. they'll have a nice life together. [davis & chloe]

Oh but Chloe won't go to the Phantom Zone at all. For one thing, Clark would never allow it to happen.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

She totally 100 percent wants to help Clark! She tried to help Davis but it didnt work, Now she is thinking that in helping Davis she is helping/ protecting Clark

IF that makes sense I voted for both

[Welling_is_pretty]

Chloe herself said she was doing it for Clark. Do I think she was attracted to Davis? Yes. Do I think she might still be a bit? yes. But she has always put Clark first. ALWAYS. He truly is the center of her universe, everything she has ever done has been for him (as she said), good or bad.

[Cali978]

I dont know what the hell's up with Chloe. she has gone completely mental...helping DOOMSDAY! are you serious?!

[green_arrow_girl358]

if she was doing it for clark, davis would be in the phantom zone right about now

[Davis Bloome]

if she was doing it for clark, davis would be in the phantom zone right about now
ITA, if she was doing it only for Clark then he would be in the PZ. I have no doubt that she's also doing it for Clark, but mainly she's doing this to help Davis, no matter how doomed the situation is. As Clark said she has feelings for him and her denial was just to justify her actions to herself and also to Clark. Cause her conscience must be breaking apart by now, because of all what she has done, which made her really sad at the end of 'Beast'.

[dokken-fan]

She feels something for davis. remember the dream. Dreams reflect your deepest desires so enough said.:rolleyes:

[mrw66855]

I say she is doing it for Davis, and herself. For a couple seasons now Chloe has seemed like she needs to be needed and that is why she is doing this for herself, because she likes the fact that Davis needs her. Also clearly has feelings for Dave and wants to save him. Even at the expense of the human race. She says that she is doing of Clark and her reasoning. Even though it has not been said in the episode is to protect Clark from dying. It is amazing that every character and even Clark forgets that he cannot die. I mean, if doomsday killed him all we would have to do is send him to the sun. And he would be alive again. So her reasoning for wanting to do this to that Clark is not valid, because when it comes to him death does not matter. Also, if she was doing this for Clark She would think like Clark and do what is right and not tried to stop him at the fortress. I have to give Chloe credit though she handled the secret responsibly longer then Pete or Lana did

[CloisFan17]

def a mix of both. she has feelings for davis yet she cares about helping clark & also wants to help Davis plain & simple

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I say she is doing it for Davis, and herself. For a couple seasons now Chloe has seemed like she needs to be needed and that is why she is doing this for herself, because she likes the fact that Davis needs her. Also clearly has feelings for Dave and wants to save him. Even at the expense of the human race. She says that she is doing of Clark and her reasoning. Even though it has not been said in the episode is to protect Clark from dying. It is amazing that every character and even Clark forgets that he cannot die. I mean, if doomsday killed him all we would have to do is send him to the sun. And he would be alive again. So her reasoning for wanting to do this to that Clark is not valid, because when it comes to him death does not matter. Also, if she was doing this for Clark She would think like Clark and do what is right and not tried to stop him at the fortress. I have to give Chloe credit though she handled the secret responsibly longer then Pete or Lana did

I loved everything you said because that is how I see it too

[Kal-ed]

IMO she´s doing it it for both.

Chloe´s decision is probly the stupidest, she´s doing it so Clark wont be forced to send Davis to the PZ so now she only left him one opcion: killing Davis, after he´s killed more people

I think she doesnt want Doomsday to kill Clark, she also doesnt want Clark to kill Davis or sending him to a PZ although the last part I dont get, I mean Chloe has got to come to terms with the fact that we cant always have our cake and eat it, either:

a) she stays with him for ever (asuming she can manage to never ever be apart from him) she will eventually die of old age or what ever and Doomsday will be on full mode anyway.
b) Clark takes him to the phantom zone
c) Clark kills him.

Chloe needs to realize that there´s no option d) that allows for a happy ending and IMO the best choice by far is option b), sure its not the perfect solution and it will have its consecuences but the best in the long run.

[CloisFan17]

Haha I like that can't have the cake & eat it too lol

[galatians221]

Oh but Chloe won't go to the Phantom Zone at all. For one thing, Clark would never allow it to happen.

If Chloe gave him permission he might. First he'd have to anguish over it but Chloe would start yelling at him to do something and then perhaps he'd do what she said.

[CloisFan17]

^^Yeah but I doubt that even like that he would

[Mackdaddy]

Something tells me that she is doing this for Clark:D

[DCgirlSince2006]

Clark, she already tried to kill Davis. She doesn't know what this guy is capable of and if he kills Clark the world is destroyed.


Great point. Yes Chole might have some pity/chemistry with Davis but it's always all about Clark for her.

Many of you might hate me for this but I was definately waiting forthe "I Love You" at the end of her phone call. It would have showed she'd doing it all for Clark and accepts she may never see him again.

Clearly the writer want to keep the Clark/Davis debate going and don't want to fuel any of the remain Chark die hards out there.

[F..l]

I think,she doing it for both ;) ....

[actaeon]

I honestly don't know why Chloe helped Davis. She went so far beyond just "helping" him-- she was willing to sacrifice her life-- that it seems she needed a pretty intense motivation. What was it?

1.) She did it for Clark. Okay... but Clark made it pretty clear that he did not want her doing this. He didn't even think it could work. If she's doing everything for him, why wouldn't she listen to him?

2.) She did it for Davis. I find this even less convincing. Okay, she's attracted to him. But I don't think she's actually in love with him. She is motivated to help the meteor afflicted, but this?

It just seems so extreme for her. She doesn't seem to be using good judgment; like Ollie says, how does she expect this to end? In the dream, Davis himself says basically the same thing: what does she expect? It seems that Chloe deep down knows that this involvement with Davis must end badly, and yet she plunges on. Why?

Everybody is adamant that her plan can't work. None of her friends think what she's doing with Davis is a good idea. Why doesn't she listen? Clark, Oliver... even Jimmy warn her. Lois doesn't know what she's up to, but her comment on Davis (in Bride) is that he's "tall dark and scary".

And as it turned out-- unsurprisingly-- they were all right.

[Supermania]

She must have been doing it for Clark. Clark is a strong, bold and brave man as well as an extremely caring guy. How anyone could fall for Davis who is always whining and pitiful is beyond me. Their relationship was basically made out of pity.

[rowan sjet]

It seems that Chloe deep down knows that this involvement with Davis must end badly, and yet she plunges on. Why?
I think it's because she believes it's better to do something, anything, than to just give up on saving him in order to save everyone else. She wants to do both, and this is the only way with even the remotest chance she can see of doing it. I think Chloe, and Davis, would have readily gone along with Clark's original PZ idea if they didn't think they had another choice, the same as in Eternal. But they did have another option, so I was proud of Chloe, and ultimately Clark, for their decision to not give up on Davis so easily, and am confident when all is said and done that Clark will be back to thinking the same way following his attempts at cutting himself off from his humanity, especially since at least one of the producers outright said Chloe was doing the 'right' thing. They both just have to be smarter about what they do.

No, for me where things get murky is Chloe's decision to hide Davis from Clark. If she had told him, then they might have worked together, instead of at cross purposes, and possibly came up with the Black Kryptonite/Phantom Zone idea much more quickly, and been able to implement it successfully. On the other hand, Clark does care about Chloe and maybe wouldn't be too happy with Chloe being alone with a potentially dangerous guy who's obsessed with her. Would he have stopped her from seeing Davis, as Chloe implies and Clark acknowledges as likely true during the Beast phone call, thus removing Doomsday's leash before they have a plan for dealing with him? We can't know what decision Clark would have made if offered the choice, but that's kinda the whole point. I see the side that telling Clark would have been the best thing to do, but I see the other side that telling Clark just adds even more risk to the equation. I don't know what I would have chosen.

[Autumn]

I think the deleted scene makes it clear that it wasn't ALL for Clark. Very clear. I still think it was both but clearly she had fallen for Davis by Beast.

[IloveClark]

It was for Clark.

[jpfort1957]

If it was for Clark, DD would be in the PZ, and Jimmy would be alive.

[GreenYarn]

Yeah...it was for Clark.

And Davis was always a murderer, and Chloe never had any feelings for Davis. :rolleyes:

[IloveClark]

It's Chloe's fault that they died she used the black K.If Clark had listened to Oliver it wouldn't have happened.Did you miss the phone conversation in Beast?Please.

[donnarose]

Assume protecting Clark, Very mysterious!

[crazy4chlavis]

i would love to say Davis (alone) but i'm gonna have to go w/ BOTH- Davis & Clark: she might have started out as doing it just to protect Clark, but i think she cared enough for Davis and wanted to save him as well :)

why else would she stop Clark from sending Davis to the PZ? and why was she so desperate to find a cure for Davis, so much so that she asked Dr. Hamilton for help?

[supercatmom]

I boil that FOS scene down to this...the reason why Chloe stopped Clark is because she didn't want Davis to be locked away in the phantom zone. I don't see how this was done because she wanted to protect Clark. As long as Davis is free, there is a chance that Clark will end up dead. The only way to guarantee Clark's safety is to get rid of Davis forever. Chloe's plan does not accomplish this.

ITA

[Exedore]

She did it for Shelby. It's all part of his diabolical plan for revenge against Lois and Clark.

[supercatmom]

Hi guys:

First time posting for me- I've watched the show on an off for years but have been glued all season long for this 8th season. I've always read the posts for years and may I say I find everyone who enjoys watching this show both articulate and fun to read! I look forward to continuing to post...

That being said, I feel that it's definitely a mixture of both. While I'm keenly aware that Clark and Chloe share this je ne sais quoi between them (IMO another Mulder and Scully type of relationship), there is also a bond forming between her and Doomy. They share a far stronger sexual chemistry than Chimmy- and that is difficult to deny. I think that ultimately TPTB will make it seem like the ultimate sacrifice for Clark, but it would be far more interesting if they allow Chloe to have this weakness for Davis.

I have to say in watching this show and many others like it, I see that the platonic relationship between a man and a woman who share chemistry is the key to a long lasting show- such as the X-files as mentioned above, Will and Grace, Stargate SG-1etc. By keeping them apart due to whatever circumstance such as unrequited love in the case of Chloe, this adds a sexual tension that is never resolved, prompting viewers to keep coming back next week. The writers know what they are doing by creating this dicotomy when they show Chloe crying at the end of the episode essentially professing her undying love for Clark. This is why the Chloe character outlasted Lana in the regular series run, because its their non consummation of their relationship that keeps the show going. I don't think the writers will ever jump the shark.

Along the way, they've allowed her to have a "safe relationship" with Jimmy that lacks the passion that she feels when she is with Davis. And for the record all of the things she's done for Davis outweigh normal "sacrifice" that you would have for a simple friend:

A. Hugs him while Jimmy is lying in a hospital bed
B. Only recogniizing Davis when she forgot who she was- not even remembering Clark
C. Cooking for and harboring a known serial killer
D. Choosing to believe Davis over Jimmy who is her HUSBAND for crying out loud

There's no way she's just a run of the mill martyr here. She is falling in love with Davis, remember he is the Kryptonian that she can actually have...and that is something that is almost impossible to resist.

Very interesting and insightfuly post. Welcome

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Hi guys:

First time posting for me- I've watched the show on an off for years but have been glued all season long for this 8th season. I've always read the posts for years and may I say I find everyone who enjoys watching this show both articulate and fun to read! I look forward to continuing to post...

That being said, I feel that it's definitely a mixture of both. While I'm keenly aware that Clark and Chloe share this je ne sais quoi between them (IMO another Mulder and Scully type of relationship), there is also a bond forming between her and Doomy. They share a far stronger sexual chemistry than Chimmy- and that is difficult to deny. I think that ultimately TPTB will make it seem like the ultimate sacrifice for Clark, but it would be far more interesting if they allow Chloe to have this weakness for Davis.

I have to say in watching this show and many others like it, I see that the platonic relationship between a man and a woman who share chemistry is the key to a long lasting show- such as the X-files as mentioned above, Will and Grace, Stargate SG-1etc. By keeping them apart due to whatever circumstance such as unrequited love in the case of Chloe, this adds a sexual tension that is never resolved, prompting viewers to keep coming back next week. The writers know what they are doing by creating this dicotomy when they show Chloe crying at the end of the episode essentially professing her undying love for Clark. This is why the Chloe character outlasted Lana in the regular series run, because its their non consummation of their relationship that keeps the show going. I don't think the writers will ever jump the shark.

Along the way, they've allowed her to have a "safe relationship" with Jimmy that lacks the passion that she feels when she is with Davis. And for the record all of the things she's done for Davis outweigh normal "sacrifice" that you would have for a simple friend:

A. Hugs him while Jimmy is lying in a hospital bed
B. Only recogniizing Davis when she forgot who she was- not even remembering Clark
C. Cooking for and harboring a known serial killer
D. Choosing to believe Davis over Jimmy who is her HUSBAND for crying out loud

There's no way she's just a run of the mill martyr here. She is falling in love with Davis, remember he is the Kryptonian that she can actually have...and that is something that is almost impossible to resist.

Very interesting and insightful post. Welcome

[JennyFaye]

I think it's because she believes it's better to do something, anything, than to just give up on saving him in order to save everyone else. She wants to do both, and this is the only way with even the remotest chance she can see of doing it. I think Chloe, and Davis, would have readily gone along with Clark's original PZ idea if they didn't think they had another choice, the same as in Eternal. But they did have another option, so I was proud of Chloe, and ultimately Clark, for their decision to not give up on Davis so easily, and am confident when all is said and done that Clark will be back to thinking the same way following his attempts at cutting himself off from his humanity, especially since at least one of the producers outright said Chloe was doing the 'right' thing. They both just have to be smarter about what they do.

No, for me where things get murky is Chloe's decision to hide Davis from Clark. If she had told him, then they might have worked together, instead of at cross purposes, and possibly came up with the Black Kryptonite/Phantom Zone idea much more quickly, and been able to implement it successfully. On the other hand, Clark does care about Chloe and maybe wouldn't be too happy with Chloe being alone with a potentially dangerous guy who's obsessed with her. Would he have stopped her from seeing Davis, as Chloe implies and Clark acknowledges as likely true during the Beast phone call, thus removing Doomsday's leash before they have a plan for dealing with him? We can't know what decision Clark would have made if offered the choice, but that's kinda the whole point. I see the side that telling Clark would have been the best thing to do, but I see the other side that telling Clark just adds even more risk to the equation. I don't know what I would have chosen.


SPOT ON POST!! You make great points.

I always believed that Davis would have submitted to banishment to the PZ if he hadn't believed that Chloe could keep the inner beast at bay---and if she hadn't sold him on the idea that this is what she wanted too. After all, the man chose a painful death by kryptonite before asking Chloe to help him suppress the beast as a last resort.

By hiding Davis in secret from even Clark, Chloe took the decision out of Clark's hands. Given Clark's tendency to believe in the innate decency of individuals and to seek out non-lethal, non-extreme, even potentially redemptive paths of dealing with others, I think he and Chloe could have eventually worked together to save Davis and send Doomsday to the PZ before Tess had the PZ crystal destroyed. (This aspect of Clark's character earns him so much flack on these threads. Yet I think it is what makes him truly Superman....not his ability to pound villains into the ground or whether he wears a cape, glasses and flies.)

Of course that eventual brainstorming teamwork was predicated on convincing Clark that Chloe was safe with Davis----a tall hurdle to overcome. Like you said, Clark's wish to keep Chloe safe by keeping her apart from Davis could have unleashed Doomsday before they had a viable plan.

But we'll never know......

Still, I believed and shall always believe that Chloe was right to try to save Davis.
....And to answer the thread: She did it for both Davis and Clark. (But predominantly for Clark.)


Anyway, you stated all this so much better than I just did. Great post! :D

[litafanforlife]

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Clark. She definitely had feelings for Davis, I'm sure of that- her dream/fantasy made it perfectly clear she had feelings for Davis but her dream also ended with her screaming at what had happened to Clark.<O:p</O:p
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I loved and still love Chloe/Davis and I think she might have loved Davis too- if not love there were still most definitely some feelings involved, but that got put ASIDE when she has to face the reality of the whole situation. Some people said why didn't she tell Clark about Davis and why did she hide him out. Well, I always kind of felt this was clear, even with her feelings for Davis, protecting Clark always seems to come first. What if somehow Davis found out that she had told Clark he was back and Davis did not like this? <O:p</O:p
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Chloe remembers that Davis said he was pretty much made to destroy Clark. I don't blame Chloe for not telling Clark, I think it was another way of her trying to protect him. We can argue about whether her actions were right or wrong throughout this series of events, but I don't doubt for a second that everything that's been brought up in the thread was for Clark (with me acknowledging that she totally had feelings for Davis). <O:p</O:p
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She's loyal/protective of Clark until the end, even in something as simple as not wanting him to kill himself with guilt later on for sending Davis off to the PZ. I need to take this point to also say that I'm also a Chlark fan lol, but her feelings for him, I don't think were romantic for a long time by this point. Sometimes there's a love and loyalty that comes even before romantic love (which COULD be what she felt for Davis, or not) and that's what Chloe's love is for Clark, as much as the Chlark fan in me in me would have liked to have said she was still in love with him, I don't think it was that- there's just an eternal love that she’s got for him that's different from others.<O:p</O:p
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Like others have said though, I think Chloe herself said it best at the end of Beast. "Everything I've ever done-right or wrong, I did for you... I’m protecting you...” Clark talks about sacrificing herself and she still tries to make him understand “I must have thrown a million green rocks away and I have never really saved you- now I can... Clark, if there’s one lesson I’ve learned from you it’s that choosing the greater good is never a sacrifice” (oh and I sidenote, that scene usually makes me cry lol)<O:p</O:p
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I believe someone said something about if she was really doing it all for Clark why would she call him and basically tell him stuff that would make him feel guilty- she didn’t call to make him feel bad/guilty, she called him to let him know she was alright, so she could alleviate the worry he had to be feeling, she did not want to make him feel guilty.
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So long rant short, I say that it was all for Clark (even though I absolutely believe she had feelings for Davis, that’s why there was so much chemistry- those feeling didn’t matter if Clark’s life was at stake)<O:p</O:p