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Poyntz
04-30-2009, 07:30 PM
Didn't see any threads on this and what people think of the way they acted in this episode.

Oliver was kind of pissing me off really. He says he would give Chloe a chance to explain then doesn't really seem to listen to her or care. I really think Oliver has no idea that Doomsday is sent to kill Clark. She is trying to keep them appart and he is trying to throw them together. She now knows because of the doctor that his dna doesnt get distroyed. Basically there is no way to distroy him.

Jimmy was ok in the episode. Wish they would stop with the drug stuff.

I also was confused about the conversation he had with Oliver. He made a comment about after all they been through... and i was left thinking .. umm what have "THEY" been through. Did i miss an episode or something? I Don't even remember the 2 of them ever filming a scene much together before this. ..

aceofclubs
04-30-2009, 07:37 PM
Didn't see any threads on this and what people think of the way they acted in this episode.

Oliver was kind of pissing me off really. He says he would give Chloe a chance to explain then doesn't really seem to listen to her or care. I really think Oliver has no idea that Doomsday is sent to kill Clark. She is trying to keep them appart and he is trying to throw them together. She now knows because of the doctor that his dna doesnt get distroyed. Basically there is no way to distroy him.

Jimmy was ok in the episode. Wish they would stop with the drug stuff.

I also was confused about the conversation he had with Oliver. He made a comment about after all they been through... and i was left thinking .. umm what have "THEY" been through. Did i miss an episode or something? I Don't even remember the 2 of them ever filming a scene much together before this. ..

Jimmy was not acting like Jimmy. Drugs addicts will say whatever to get their next fix. I think they have done a decent job showing how addiction changes your personality. I think Ollie knows what Doomsday is. Thats why he said Clark is the only one who can destroy him.

amandaa125
04-30-2009, 07:38 PM
I personally really enjoyed Ollie in this episode. It seemed to me that he was the only one with his head on straight, but i guess that depends on how you look at the whole davis situation. As for Jimmy, I didnt particularly like him in this episode or dislike him, he was just kind of there for me?
And i think the comment about all that "they" have been through was just referring to the same situations they've been in together (ex. doomsday at the wedding) Atleast that's how i took it because like you said i dont even remember them filming that much together either..

clois-destiny-forever
04-30-2009, 07:39 PM
I really liked the performances by both of them. I thought they really brough their A game and showed why they're awesome and needed on this show. Loved them!

Ella
04-30-2009, 07:40 PM
I enjoyed both of them a lot, especially Oliver. He was on his game throughout the episode. I have a lot of respect for his character even though he has made serious mistakes in the past he's one of the good guys. And this episode he was a really hard on Chloe but I liked it. He's not doing it to be a jerk. He's doing it because he believes that someone has to tell it like it is. Someone has to be the person who faces these obstacles head on. That's what I like about Ollie in this episode. As for Jimmy. What? He has issues, okay, so? That's not going to make me turn on him. I love his character and I know that underneath it all he's a good guy, too and I love the scene between Ollie and Jimmy when Jimmy asked Ollie, "What? You think I'm some kind of hero?" To me he is. He's just a hero who got sidetracked a bit. But he'll find his way back.

Sports72Xtrm
04-30-2009, 07:42 PM
I loved Ollie in this episode. Jimmy was...well he was a little bit of a jerk at the beginning with him stealing and asking for drug money and using the people don't trust me excuse to act like a jerk but I'm glad that Ollie is giving him a job so he will still be a part of the storyline and gives him a chance to pick himself up. I know deep down, he's a diamond in the rough and can be redeemed.

wickedwango
05-01-2009, 05:56 AM
am I right?

Krypto_marcus
05-01-2009, 06:00 AM
I don't know, I can't think of any other scene between them.

BackToTheLies
05-01-2009, 06:05 AM
there were 600 reasons and a "broken down car" to suggest otherwise but truthfully I don't know.

smallv17
05-01-2009, 06:10 AM
They shared a scene in Hydro remember? When ''green arrow'' rescued Lois and Jimmy in the alley and Oliver showed up.

wickedwango
05-01-2009, 07:54 AM
They shared a scene in Hydro remember? When ''green arrow'' rescued Lois and Jimmy in the alley and Oliver showed up.

I wouldn't really count that because he was GA and Lois was there too. Plus they didn't even talk.

mjs1973
05-01-2009, 08:09 AM
They had some good scene's together. I enjoyed them.

Atomic girl
05-01-2009, 10:15 AM
I wouldn't really count that because he was GA and Lois was there too. Plus they didn't even talk.Didn't Ollie show up to see Lois kiss the GA? And Lois was explaining to Ollie that she had a hunch and Ollie asks, "Did you just call him Oliver?" I think Jimmy was still there, but not sure they "met".

Kryppy
05-01-2009, 01:07 PM
Overall I liked the episode. But what was going on with Oliver hiring Jimmy at the end? I sure hope I misunderstood something and Jimmy is NOT joining the JLA.

Lana Lang is already a superhero (worst idea the show has ever had). Now Jimmy Olsen might be one. Lois Lane was one last week. Are Martha Kent and Perry White going to become heroes next? Is everyone but Clark going to become a super hero?

Estro-gen X
05-01-2009, 01:07 PM
elastic lad is a legion man!

ginevrakent
05-01-2009, 04:59 PM
Just a little tidbit of information I came across recently that got me thinking that perhaps they are trying to give Jimmy a bit of this other character, Roy Harper aka Speedy's storyline as a shout out to the comics:

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp192/cls1983/Speedy.jpg

From Wikipedia:


The most famous Green Arrow story appeared, in Green Lantern vol. 2, #85-86 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowbirds_Don%27t_Fly), when it was revealed that Green Arrow's ward Speedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Harper_(comics)) was addicted to heroin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin).<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-dc-ency_0-1>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Arrow#cite_note-dc-ency-0)</SUP> In his zeal to save America, Oliver Queen had failed in his personal responsibility to Speedy — who would overcome his addiction with the help of Black Canary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canary), Green Arrow's then-love interest.

Here's a link with more details about the plot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowbirds_Don%27t_Fly

Mythosgirl
05-01-2009, 05:35 PM
I thought Oliver was the only person who made any sense last night. He was trying to actually deal with Doomsday although I couldn't tell if he knew that DD was sent to kill Clark. Chole felt like an emotional mess and I don't think it was all about Clark. I think it was about Clark and Davis and her feelings for both.

As for Jimmy. He had some acting chops last night. He is a mess with the drugs, but he also feels like someone who is actually trying to deal with DD and end the nightmare.

I liked Ollie and Jimmy last night. They were the only 2 making sense to me.

tibbit78
05-02-2009, 08:46 PM
I didn't find anything wrong with Oliver or Jimmy's behavior. Well, I am glad that Oliver talked Jimmy out of doing drugs. That's the only thing I found wrong about Jimmy's behavior. I didn't mind Oliver talking to Clark, and I liked Justin Hartley's lines, and also Aaron Ashmore's lines.

wickedwango
05-03-2009, 06:37 AM
Didn't Ollie show up to see Lois kiss the GA? And Lois was explaining to Ollie that she had a hunch and Ollie asks, "Did you just call him Oliver?" I think Jimmy was still there, but not sure they "met".

Yeh he did show up when Jimmy was still there, but they didn't talk, Oliver talked to Lois while Jimmy took pics of 'green arrow'.

Anu
05-03-2009, 06:40 AM
But think about it. There's no real way for Clark to kill Doomsday, why can't Oliver understand that? I mean, Davis didn't die by the kryptonians, which Clark would have died from.

Kid Collins
05-03-2009, 11:22 AM
Why did Oliver offer Jimmy a job?

Oliver should've told him that a job is waiting for you after you finish with rehab.

He stole from Chloe. This dude is not to be trusted. :p

Bizarrolover
05-03-2009, 11:41 AM
I personally really enjoyed Ollie in this episode. It seemed to me that he was the only one with his head on straight, but i guess that depends on how you look at the whole davis situation. As for Jimmy, I didnt particularly like him in this episode or dislike him, he was just kind of there for me?
And i think the comment about all that "they" have been through was just referring to the same situations they've been in together (ex. doomsday at the wedding) Atleast that's how i took it because like you said i dont even remember them filming that much together either..

It could also refer to the problem Ollie had with drugs back in season 6. They both had similar problems, Ollie quit them when he realized he was hurting those around him and told Jimmy to do the same. I think it was a nice gesture from him, Jimmy is so alone now that he could use a good friend.

Billy Jor-El
05-03-2009, 11:46 AM
I thought the scenes were good, and did I notice how pale JO looked? I mean, compared to Oliver he did look like he could be strung out, pale and red around the eyes. I hope it was intentional make-up, or else AA has some explaining to do :)

Oliver was very quick to judge Jimmy. His car certainly could have been broken; Ollie was so certain that JO needed the money for drugs, makes me think that a paroled convict can have such a hard time since folks prejudge that having been convicted in the past, they must still be guilty today.

Didn't know where it was heading, but when JO ended up accepting the job, I saw some redemption in his character. Of course, he'll end up back at the DP, won't he? That's the mythos, and all....

cksidekick
05-03-2009, 11:50 AM
Jimmy needed a friend and a swift kick in the a**, so to speak. Oliver is good at both. he does it all the time for Clark. The difference is, Jimmy seems to appreciate it.

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----

I think Jimmy's car was broken. Spending all his money on drugs meant he couldn't fix it, maybe even if he did have a job. It's "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". You can't show up strung out asking for money to buy a cheese burger. Oliver helped Jimbo fix his car by giving him a way to help himself.