Chloe is the new Lana

[Superman of Krypton]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

[Ella]

Yep. I've seen the parallels all season long. However, I'm enjoying Chlavis more (now that Chloe's divorced, anyway) than I ever enjoyed any Lana pairing. No offense to Lana fans. I just never got behind that character or her love interests.

[myankskent]

You can say that again. Lana leaving has not changed this show at all. If anything, "Beast" proved that, IMO. If it's not Lana, it's Chloe. If it's not Chloe, I'm sure someone else will get the honor next season.

[lm1212]

ITA

[thehenry89]

You can say that again. Lana leaving has not changed this show at all. If anything, "Beast" proved that, IMO. If it's not Lana, it's Chloe. If it's not Chloe, I'm sure someone else will get the honor next season.

word.

[BadToad]

I've been saying that for months now. This whole storyline has "Lana plotline" written all over it. Right down to staying with the villian "to save Clark".

[amandaa125]

Oh yeah, after tonights episode chloe is definitely nearing more towards the character of lana lang. However, i believe no one can be worse than Lana herself. I'm so glad she's gone.

[Nerwen Aldarion]

Umm I think she first has to decide to get a supersuit and ruin the comic book cannon before she becomes as annoying and hated as Lana. I think this storline with Chloe is great! As for getting in the way of Clark, well just about every character has done that at some point.

[clois-destiny-forever]

Somehow taking over as the main character involved in everything? (check)

[Supsfan]

That's the feeling I got when watching this episode, basically this was a Lana-esque plotline that adds nothing much to the story except a bunch of unneeded drama for the sake of drama. Oh well at least in Chloe's case Clark doesn't look like an idiot in the process so that's a bonus.

[myankskent]

That's the feeling I got when watching this episode, basically this was a Lana-esque plotline that adds nothing much to the story except a bunch of unneeded drama for the sake of drama. Oh well at least in Chloe's case Clark doesn't look like an idiot in the process so that's a bonus.

Well, I think that Clark got dragged down with Chloe in this episode. Standing there and allowing Chloe to take Davis away with her instead of trapping him in the phantom zone didn't do Clark any favors.

[Diego*Chloe]

That's the feeling I got when watching this episode, basically this was a Lana-esque plotline that adds nothing much to the story except a bunch of unneeded drama for the sake of drama. Oh well at least in Chloe's case Clark doesn't look like an idiot in the process so that's a bonus.


No, but Chloe does and Im sorry but that is so NOT right! :mad:

[amandaa125]

Well, I think that Clark got dragged down with Chloe in this episode. Standing there and allowing Chloe to take Davis away with her instead of trapping him in the phantom zone didn't do Clark any favors.

Agreed, the whole time i was wondering why clark didnt do something. He literally stood there and just watched them leave...come on clark.

[6-Super-Man -5]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

Nice points!

[Supsfan]

Well, I think that Clark got dragged down with Chloe in this episode. Standing there and allowing Chloe to take Davis away with her instead of trapping him in the phantom zone didn't do Clark any favors.

Well considering alot of the stuff this show has done to tear down Clark's character, I consider that a tiny blip on the radar, I can just reason he didn't want to hurt Chloe as the excuse


No, but Chloe does and Im sorry but that is so NOT right! :mad:

Sort of ironic, alot of the time Clark looked like an idiot with his Lana issues he would run to Chloe and she come off looking peachy, turn about fair play:P

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I don't know if this is a dis to Lana or both Chloe and Lana. Sure, Chloe has messed up, but we all know she will return to her normal character.

[kyl-el]

The thing that really gets me is, what are they going to do with here once doomsday gets axed? She's fallen so far, character-wise, from where she once was. She's in a state of denial that is much worse than what Lana was in when she was with Lex. Sure, Lex was evil and all, but he didn't transform into a beast that went on kill rampages. The sad part is that they'll probably get Jimmy and her back together after this all settles down, and it will be a hard thing for me to swallow.

[myankskent]

Well considering alot of the stuff this show has done to tear down Clark's character, I consider that a tiny blip on the radar, I can just reason he didn't want to hurt Chloe as the excuse


I guess, but IMO, it was pretty bad for Clark as well. After he just got done explaining how Davis has killed over 50 people, including another guy found in the dumpster during the time when Chloe was "with him", it is bad that he could just stand there and let the two of them take off. He should've put his foot down and taken control of the situation, but as is often the case, TPTB never have Clark do this until it's too late. He had Davis exactly where he wanted him. It's very frustrating.

[Superman of Krypton]

This is Smallville, whenever a character falls into a place that they cant properly write them out of, they just pretend like it never happened and move on.

But they'll probably have new ways to torture Chloe next season.. maybe she'll have a Doomsday baby.

[Selina]

I wouldn't go that far!

Chloe annoyed me tonight and has done in certain parts of the season but she's no where near the character Lana was.

Lana was deplorable imo.

In spite of everything, Chloe is still a likable character.

[AndiGirl]

Well, I think that Clark got dragged down with Chloe in this episode. Standing there and allowing Chloe to take Davis away with her instead of trapping him in the phantom zone didn't do Clark any favors.

Well, in Clarks defense...I think he was shocked at that moment. Chloe came in and basically defied him...which doesnt happen that often. :\

[Timester]

I have been telling that the Chlavis arc would be bad for Chloe for months now, so nothing new here.

But to be fair with Chloe, Lana's character problems were far more than these.

[alienkinfolk]

But they'll probably have new ways to torture Chloe next season.. maybe she'll have a Doomsday baby.

Now that's a twist but wait that sounds like Lana and the Lex baby :mad:

[O'Neill]

Lets not forget...

7. Being a hypocrite.... check!
8. Acting stupid.... check!
9. Adding way too much drama to any situation.... check!
10. Divorced at a young age.... check!
11. Causes Clark to not think straight.... Check!
12. Miss independent attitude.... check!
13. Needs to be replaced by another gorgeous redhead.... check? ;)

[ginnyfan]

There are parallels but here's the vital difference. Oliver, Clark, Jimmy & Dr. Emil told Chloe point blank that she's wrong. They didn't all start worshiping her or closing their eyes to her actions.

[mty09]

She is totally close to the new Lana, I didn't like Chloe this season! yeah I said it Chloe fans! She is holding Clark (And Davis) back. Just like what Lana did with Clark and Lex is what Chloe is doing to Davis and Jimmy, but not to the extreme. As long as she doesn't get a Supersuit and have a DD baby lol we're good lol

[Supsfan]

9. Adding way too much drama to any situation.... check!


I think this hits the nail on the head, with what I hated about Lana storylines. I refer to it as needless drama for the sake of drama, and that's what the drama in this episode felt like.

They really need to split Clark's personality next season so his personal life and hero life have 2 completely seperate sets of drama.


She is totally the new Lana, I hated Chloe this season!

It's sort of wierd, not sure which is worse. S5-7 Chloe who got forced into Clark storylines not really helping him look as best as he could be. The character herself was annoying and I didn't want her on my screen, but on the positive side she was usually shoved back to support character more often then not.

or

S8 Chloe who is not as annoying a character as S5-7 Chloe and actually somewhat interesting but gets way to much screentime

[Ella]

Agreed, the whole time i was wondering why clark didnt do something. He literally stood there and just watched them leave...come on clark.
Yes. He looked so confused. It was kinda...dumb.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I'm not trying to control a thread, but can we please refrain from bashing?

[Ella]

There are parallels but here's the vital difference. Oliver, Clark, Jimmy & Dr. Emil told Chloe point blank that she's wrong. They didn't all start worshiping her or closing their eyes to her actions.
Yep. Because the drama and the mistakes you can overlook and excuse to an extent, but all the worshiping after seven seasons it just becomes too much, IMO. :\

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I'm not trying to control a thread, but can we please refrain from bashing?
Was that for me because I called Clark dumb?

[6-Super-Man -5]

I don't know if this is a dis to Lana or both Chloe and Lana. Sure, Chloe has messed up, but we all know she will return to her normal character.

No, we don't know if she'll return back to her old character, but we're hoping for her to do so, before its too late.

[colibri]

Yes, definitely a new variation on the whole Lana situation in a far more dangerous situation. Doomsday has become melodrama. I don't know how they are going to handle this situation but it doesn't look good. I actually liked Clark until that point that all of you have mentioned when he lets her get away with it.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Was that for me because I called Clark dumb?

Oh, no. Sorry for the confusion. I meant the people bashing Chloe/Lana.

[jpfort1957]

If Chloe is the new Lana...............I want her gone too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mty09]

I'm not trying to control a thread, but can we please refrain from bashing?


Nobody is bashing, you're just a Chloe fan. If you don't like this than don't read the post! that's what I do when people bash Clark.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Oh, no. Sorry for the confusion. I meant the people bashing Chloe/Lana.


They're both overly dramatic, that is what kills the show and you know it!

[paolinki25]

I hate to say it, cuz I love Chloe, but yeah. She's become the new Lana. When people start turning into Lana it can only mean one thing. They are no longer needed on the show.

[liana]

I don't know if this is a dis to Lana or both Chloe and Lana. Sure, Chloe has messed up, but we all know she will return to her normal character.

I prefer to read it as dis to the plot, not for the characters themselves. You see, IMO, some of Lana's story arcs were deplorable over the years. It wasn't the actress, or even the character, but what the producers did with the character. I just don't like seeing they repeat those same stories with Chloe. It is a sure way to ruin a character completely. As a Chloe fan, you must see what I am talking about. :(

Even though I don't exactly like people saying 'Chloe is the new Lana', because it undermines both characters, I understand the idea behind that. I really would like for them to stop writing stories like that.

[Fallen One]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc
You sir, are the man. WORD to this entire post.

[haydenclaireheroes]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

next she will have clark's powers.

[ywm]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

exactly!

[thehenry89]

I prefer to read it as dis to the plot, not for the characters themselves. You see, IMO, some of Lana's story arcs were deplorable over the years. It wasn't the actress, or even the character, but what the producers did with the character. I just don't like seeing they repeat those same stories with Chloe. It is a sure way to ruin a character completely. As a Chloe fan, you must see what I am talking about. :(

Even though I don't exactly like people saying 'Chloe is the new Lana', because it undermines both characters, I understand the idea behind that. I really would like for them to stop writing stories like that.

It's not that chloe's the new lana, it's that she's the new sacrificial lamb for the PS3 to screw with. I hate what's happening to her charachter but I'm not gonna ignore that it's happening just because I used to be a huge chloe fan.

[xrayvision]

Agreed. I said back in Turbulence that Chlavis was just like Lexana. And now it's being proven more & more.

She's making all sorts of decisions for Clark and matters that she has no business with like Lana did by trying to kill Lex in season 7 and all that crap with her trying to protect Clark in Promise and all that other season 6 filth. Please, enough is enough. I don't need to see any more to know what will happen.

[LoveHurts38]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

WOW:eek:it all checks:lol:

[CloisFan17]

I think Chloe is amazing & even though she has gotten herself into a sticky mess..a yummy sticky mess :) I will always love her. Clark understands & they will always be friends no matter what

[xrayvision]

It's not that chloe's the new lana, it's that she's the new sacrificial lamb for the PS3 to screw with. I hate what's happening to her charachter but I'm not gonna ignore that it's happening just because I used to be a huge chloe fan.

Of course it's PS3's doing. But they will just make her worse & worse like they did with Lana. Once they run out of ideas for a character, that's what they do. Maybe I should be happy that Pete is gone and they never dragged him as bad as Chloe & Lana, though they gave him a ridiculous plot in Hero.

[Kschreck]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc


At this point, if they don't do something totally awesome with her character next season then I don't even want to see her in season nine. As far as I am concerned, anybody that dies from here on out, Chloe is to blame since she wouldn't let Clark vanish Doomsday to the Phantom Zone. I was always a huge Chloe fan but they turned her into the new Lana Lang and maybe they really do tend to kill her off and hope that less people are angry about it but as of right now, it's not like we would be losing a lot.

To be fair, many of the characters are being written as druggies, thiefs, murderers, etc. Sometimes I have to double check to see what show I am watching because when I start liking a character, the writers come in and turn them stupid or evil.

[thehenry89]

Of course it's PS3's doing. But they will just make her worse & worse like they did with Lana. Once they run out of ideas for a character, that's what they do. Maybe I should be happy that Pete is gone and they never dragged him as bad as Chloe & Lana, though they gave him a ridiculous plot in Hero.

ITA

[CloisFan17]

Wow just because she does something even though it may not be the best decision you guys hate on her??? That is so dumb sorry but Chloe isn't bad, ya'll are just haters & those that are saying bad things about Chloe because she chose Davis most likely just are saying it because you don't like that she did that because of Chlavis so whatever.! She is a good person no matter what I love chloe always will & I hope she is in Season 9 without Allison Mack to play Chloe Sullivan just wouldn't be SV. I would still watch it because I am a true SV fan but I will be sad that there is no Chloe in it

[rehana/chole]

Oh yeah, after tonights episode chloe is definitely nearing more towards the character of lana lang. However, i believe no one can be worse than Lana herself. I'm so glad she's gone.


I AGEE WITH U ABT LANA no one can ever b so annoying as lana , it not AM fault that writer of sv can write that they hav 2 use a similer plot line 2 lana there 2 dump 2 write they own story i beleive only difrence is chole would not get the much derseving end she deserve that is a a happy ever after a super hero after there gone kill her ( crying ) dhole was n stiull si the best charater on sv cause she not doing it for greed, for jealiose, for clark , 2 be like clark shee doing wat she think si rite even if mean she gone get kiill after all d dr said ur the cure o she now she gone die cause davisthoses not want 3 leave her he said so in fortress n he thoes nt care for clark much cause he say slark as taken his happyness . anyway chole rock eben if there given her a lana storey am pull it of better she more enjoyable 2 watch an less winey, annpoying wanbe suoerhero, poweer crazy , wan b like clark, nut case lana. chole is just chole

[consti2tion]

Yeah I have been feeling this for good while.

[jaydee85]

Chloe lost her goodness and sympathy when she cleaned up the dead bodies left from Davis

[kryptotrite]

WHOA!! :eek: This is a Lana-bashing thread. And Chloe too.

The mods would never stand for these types of "opinions" spoken about Lois.

So which is it? "Bashing?" or "Opinions?"

Can't have your cake and eat it too...or actually, I guess you can. *major eye roll*

So now I will give my opinion on Chloe being like Lana...or not.

1. Giving of herself to save Clark (check)
2. Knows who he REALLY is (check)
3. Her character tortured and made "dark" by the writers? (check)

Am I defending everything Chloe has done? Or Lana, for that matter, in earlier seasons? Certainly not. But I am waiting for the day when Lois shows one ounce of the selflessness that Chloe and Lana have shown all this time. I would like to see her appreciate Clark Kent and value him as a person instead of dismissing him and fantasizing over the RBB. That is my opinion. :)

[CloisFan17]

^^I totally agree with you this is totally asking for like bashing from the dumb haters. Its so dumb, I don't even like Lana but I dont' go around making threads to bash her it's so dumb

[Kschreck]

Agreed. I said back in Turbulence that Chlavis was just like Lexana. And now it's being proven more & more.

She's making all sorts of decisions for Clark and matters that she has no business with like Lana did by trying to kill Lex in season 7 and all that crap with her trying to protect Clark in Promise and all that other season 6 filth. Please, enough is enough. I don't need to see any more to know what will happen.


It just feels so forced to the point where you are forced to ask, why? It also felt forced to make Jimmy a drug addict and so fourth. Like they have nothing else to do with these characters but make them all do dumb or bad things simply to progress the plot forward.

[kal-el_Girl]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

agree, BUT even after you mentioned all those things Chloe's not even a quater of annoying than stupid lana is :p :rotfl:

[Bizarrolover]

I thought Chloe's conversation with Dr. Hamilton at Isis was very similar to the one Lana had with Dr. Grohl.

[SVFancross]

Actually I think Chloe is like Clark. So many of her quotes tonight were directly Clark's:
- I can handle this
- It's all my fault
- I know what I'm doing

Both Chloe and Clark were prepared to sacrifice themselves in this episode. Clark said he go with Davis into the PZ if he had to. Chloe is keeping Davis away from people and keeping him calm.

And I think she was truly motivated to save Clark's ETHICS, not just his life.

Boy did I love that girl tonight or what!

[xrayvision]

It just feels so forced to the point where you are forced to ask, why? It also felt forced to make Jimmy a drug addict and so fourth. Like they have nothing else to do with these characters but make them all do dumb or bad things simply to progress the plot forward.

I also thought the turn Clark's character was made to take in seasons 4 & 5 was forced. Prior to those seasons, nobody ever equated Clark with being a lazy BDA. The dumbed down version of Clark isn't the way he was initially portrayed.

[Exedore]

I've been saying that for months now. This whole storyline has "Lana plotline" written all over it. Right down to staying with the villian "to save Clark".

Give TPTB a break. With Kristin leaving did they have a choice? I mean we all know creativity isn't really their forte. They had no choice but to recycle the old Lana plots with Chloe since she is the leading lady this season. :\

Like I've said before, if Lois becomes the leading lady next season we will probably see her dating Darkseid (or whoever the S9 villain is going to be). :D

[Supsfan]

Give TPTB a break. With Kristin leaving did they have a choice? I mean we all know creativity isn't really their forte. They had no choice but to recycle the old Lana plots with Chloe since she is the leading lady this season. :\


They just changed the title of the show from Lanaville to Chloeville

[thehenry89]

They just changed the title of the show from Lanaville to Chloeville

more appropriatley Anybodybutclarkville

[NaYa]

There is no comparison. It's more Lois like Lana.

[wingster55]

Chloe is far from Lana...

[thehenry89]

There is no comparison. It's more Lois like Lana.

Right how is that exactly?

[Supsfan]

Chloe is far from Lana...

I don't think people are saying she is like Lana, the storylines Chloe is getting are like Lana-esque storylines. I hated them with Lana and they only slightly more entertaining with Chloe involved.

[Violet-Shadow]

Wow. Chloe's storyline is mirroring Lana's...crazy. Why on earth would tptb damage Chloe's character like they have? Why can't she just be, I don't know, Watchtower? I wasn't on board with the whole Watchtower thing but I prefer it to this! Bring back Watchtower Chloe and, please, don't make Chloe the martyr!

Plus, it speaks of bad writing when the plotlines for different characters start to mimic one another. Can't they just come up with original material?

[Supsfan]

Wow. Chloe's storyline is mirroring Lana's...crazy. Why on earth would tptb damage Chloe's character like they have?

Because TPTB love there "drama"

[hero`s passion]

I still like Chloe, no matter what, she is not as stupid and annoying as Lana always was, no offends Lana fans, it`s just my opinion... but Chloe knows what she is doing and it IS important, Lana was NOT that important and it was stupid for her to think that Clark`s life depends on her, Lionel won`t kill Clark anyways, but she didn`t even try to find out the situation- one word- silliness...

[dru-zod2501]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc
I never thought I'd agree but yes. she was an idiot, her bizarro-reasoning was infuriating

[oberyn]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc


Sad, but true. :\

[rehana/chole]

Actually I think Chloe is like Clark. So many of her quotes tonight were directly Clark's:
- I can handle this
- It's all my fault
- I know what I'm doing

Both Chloe and Clark were prepared to sacrifice themselves in this episode. Clark said he go with Davis into the PZ if he had to. Chloe is keeping Davis away from people and keeping him calm.

And I think she was truly motivated to save Clark's ETHICS, not just his life.

Boy did I love that girl tonight or what!


U SAID IT. i also realize that clark would do anything 2 save chole an chole would do anything to save clark. in a way they would do anything 2 save or portect each other he would defend her too last an she would defend him 2 last she said i would die protecting ur secert n clark said i will alway b around 2 portect u . he aslo said she has save him more time that he could hav saved her in abyss so . they ahv been true so much 2 gether last time EP made me so sad , u could see clark was scared an sad for her an she was scared na sad for him.

[BackToTheLies]

"I must have thrown a million green rocks away and I have never really saved you."

You could picture this line straight out of the mouth of Lana Lang. Infact, if she were still on the show it'd be reserved for her.

[xrayvision]

You don't know how right you are BTTL. If someone asked me a year ago which character would eventually say this line, I would say Lana in one of her return episodes.

[Serynarpc]

Never.

Lana in the earlier seasons (before she came back mature) was the albatross around Clark's neck. Chloe is the one pushing him to be the hero that he needs to be.

Clark couldn't kill DD and DD didn't look like he was going to the Phantom Zone any time soon. Chloe bit the bullet, got Davis out of there and sacrificed her relationship with Clark to prevent the confrontation.

[Supsfan]

Clark couldn't kill DD and DD didn't look like he was going to the Phantom Zone any time soon. Chloe bit the bullet, got Davis out of there and sacrificed her relationship with Clark to prevent the confrontation.

So you have no faith in Clark to do the job then? :P

I am not knocking how you viewed the scene, everybody can view it different ways, but the idea that Clark is lost without Chloe to save the day is a big disservice to the character of Clark Kent

[xrayvision]

Never.

Lana in the earlier seasons (before she came back mature) was the albatross around Clark's neck. Chloe is the one pushing him to be the hero that he needs to be.

Mature? :rotfl:

[Lori Lemaris]

Chloe Sullivan is the Leading Lady in Smallville, therefore she practically took over Lana Lang's position, that includes the drama.

[rajman]

oh nooo, she had feelings for clark, which made her make the decisions she has and say the things she has, she's just confused in simple words

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Wow just because she does something even though it may not be the best decision you guys hate on her??? That is so dumb sorry but Chloe isn't bad, ya'll are just haters & those that are saying bad things about Chloe because she chose Davis most likely just are saying it because you don't like that she did that because of Chlavis so whatever.! She is a good person no matter what I love chloe always will & I hope she is in Season 9 without Allison Mack to play Chloe Sullivan just wouldn't be SV. I would still watch it because I am a true SV fan but I will be sad that there is no Chloe in it

Exactly. I don't see why people have to bash characters that aren't really that bad.

[Night_Hawk90]

Wow just because she does something even though it may not be the best decision you guys hate on her??? That is so dumb sorry but Chloe isn't bad, ya'll are just haters & those that are saying bad things about Chloe because she chose Davis most likely just are saying it because you don't like that she did that because of Chlavis so whatever.! She is a good person no matter what I love chloe always will & I hope she is in Season 9 without Allison Mack to play Chloe Sullivan just wouldn't be SV. I would still watch it because I am a true SV fan but I will be sad that there is no Chloe in it

no offence but you take things way too seriously on these boards. I applaud you for being a true smallville fan, as its getting harder and harder to be a fan of a show that ruins the main character (clark) on a consistent basis. Yea chloe is a good person, she`s just making some of the dumbest decisions i have ever seen a character on this show make.

[saltyweeks]

smart women making independent decisions piss off people, you see it all the time, TV or not. characters like Lana and Chloe are built to attract haters-- the actresses should wear it as a badge of pride.

Smallville is (thankfully) an ensemble show, or it would have been called something more like "Superboy". i find nothing wrong with whole episodes devoted to other characters, as it doesn't detract from Clark's world, it adds to it.

i was worried the writers wouldn't let Chloe go far ENOUGH and make what to me are obvious choices considering her character. anyone who thinks she's being "stupid" is as blind as all the men who tried to "define" her to each other in this episode (none of them getting it right). i was glad they aren't selling her out.

chloe has always been impulsive, from her first moments on screen, and always been an incredibly decisive person, confident even when she doesn't make the wisest choices. waaaaaaay better than many of the plastic female characters you see on other shows.

on a very good show in a very good season, chloe sullivan remains one of the best things about Smallville.

[Deana]

We all know if Lana was still around . . . this Davis, Beauty and the Beast storyline would so be hers.

[Supsfan]

smart women making independent decisions piss off people, you see it all the time, TV or not

It's not the character that pisses me off, it's the fact the producers are giving us tons of unneeded drama for the sake of having drama and it usually seems to revolve around the female leads on this show.


We all know if Lana was still around . . . this Davis, Beauty and the Beast storyline would so be hers.

For anybody who enjoys this Chloe and the Beast storyline, I am curious if they enjoyed the "wonderful" drama of Lexana, because although Lana and Chloe are different characters, it's the same kind of drama(and I would consider it unnneeded drama). Thankfully the Chloe & the Beast storyline doesn't fill as much time on the show as Lexana did, and Clark doesn't look like a moron sitting inside his barn moping over Chloe, so at least it better in that reguard.

[borednow]

Chloe is actually making Lana look good here...

[Supsfan]

Chloe is actually making Lana look good here...

Lol I wouldn't go that far. Lana had a way to suck the life completely out of Clark, Chloe's storyline at least doesn't do that. Maybe if I am comparing the characters Chloe is going slightly more on the looney side compared to Lana but I don't care enough about either to give a rat's butt.

[xrayvision]

smart women making independent decisions piss off people, you see it all the time, TV or not. characters like Lana and Chloe are built to attract haters-- the actresses should wear it as a badge of pride.

Smallville is (thankfully) an ensemble show, or it would have been called something more like "Superboy". i find nothing wrong with whole episodes devoted to other characters, as it doesn't detract from Clark's world, it adds to it.

i was worried the writers wouldn't let Chloe go far ENOUGH and make what to me are obvious choices considering her character. anyone who thinks she's being "stupid" is as blind as all the men who tried to "define" her to each other in this episode (none of them getting it right). i was glad they aren't selling her out.

chloe has always been impulsive, from her first moments on screen, and always been an incredibly decisive person, confident even when she doesn't make the wisest choices. waaaaaaay better than many of the plastic female characters you see on other shows.

on a very good show in a very good season, chloe sullivan remains one of the best things about Smallville.

This is not about smart women making independent decisions. The decision Chloe made was anything but independent. It wasn't her decision to make, which is the biggest problem. So many things prove this. Jor-El's warnings to Clark about not involving humans regarding items involving his heritage is a big piece of evidence. This applied to the stones, to the Fortress, to Clark's training & to so many other things. Then there was Oliver's pointer to Clark about Chloe's involvement in the blue crystal in Bloodline, if I remember correctly. He said she was involved in something that only Clark should be involved with.

Besides Chloe making a decision that wasn't hers to make, her decision also puts the entire world in danger. And one of the most hypocritical things was how Chloe, whose ethics have clearly shown to be nothing like Clark's, was saying that Clark wasn't being ethical in sending Davis to the Zone. This is coming from someone who killed Sebastian Kane, who covered up Oliver's role in Lex's "death", who disposed of bodies killed by Davis, and who herself pressed the button to kill Davis in the kryptonite shower.

Chloe said she knows Clark & his ethics. She clearly doesn't especially after how questionable or lacking hers have been. She also doesn't know anything about Clark's thoughts. Clark said it himself that no matter how closely he gets with those he makes friends with or even his parents, nobody truly understands him. This is why Superman is an outsider and why only he can make certain decisions as seen over the last 70 years.

Chloe's decision clearly shows she has no understanding of why the Phantom Zone is used. She hasn't even been in it, whereas Clark has.

Unfortunately, the "ensemble" of Smallville no longer supports the main character. The "ensemble" used to be a part of the background, not overshadowing the central character. This changed in season 4 & a lot more in season 5 when the ensemble went from the background & moved into the foreground.

Chloe is clearly not the same character she was in the first 3 seasons. She hasn't been her own character for a very long time. She's been more like a messed up conjoined siamese twin of Clark's. Chloe was my favorite young female when the show started & that changed in Arrival as soon as they turned her into Clark's "brain" and turned her into a smug, order-barking, know-it-all, flawless, drama-queen type. Chloe was always an underdog who was realistically written when the show started. She was flawed & had her limitations, where she had a network of contacts to help her. Season 5 changed all of that when she got her magic hacking powers, her magic laptop, and felt like she needed to tell Clark what to do and when to do it. Not only did they destroy eveything I loved about Chloe in season 5, but more importantly they destroyed Clark.

I know you'll never agree with me, but I'm just saying it as it is.

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Chloe is actually making Lana look good here...

I wouldn't say that. I loathe Lana and Chloe took a huge step towards that same fate in Beast.

[Kid Collins]

smart women making independent decisions piss off people, you see it all the time, TV or not. characters like Lana and Chloe are built to attract haters-- the actresses should wear it as a badge of pride.



ITA.

It's the price of being the female lead in this show. They not only have to be linked to the male lead, but they also must have a storyline outside of his. And you can't have drama if the female lead only says yes, Clark, please, how can I help you be better? Oh no Clark, you don't have to tell me why you acted like an ass and left me at the club, I trust you, even though you don't trust me enough with your secret. So female leads act up, do unpredictable things, make viewers angry, but in the end, their motivations become clear and they end up protecting Clark the whole time. Promise for Lana and definitely Beast for Chloe. Awwww. :lol:

If it wasn't Lana or Chloe it would be another female on the show.

That's just the way it is.

[Supsfan]

ITA.

It's the price of being the female lead in this show. They not only have to be linked to the male lead, but they also must have a storyline outside of his. And you can't have drama if the female lead only says yes, Clark, please, how can I help you be better? Oh no Clark, you don't have to tell me why you acted like an ass and left me at the club, I trust you, even though you don't trust me enough with your secret. So female leads act up, do unpredictable things, make viewers angry, but in the end, their motivations become clear and they end up protecting Clark the whole time. Promise for Lana and definitely Beast for Chloe. Awwww. :lol:

If it wasn't Lana or Chloe it would be another female on the show.

That's just the way it is.

Put it this way if I was watching a show based on Wonder Woman, I would get annoyed if the "lead male" character got forced into storylines that had little or nothing to do with the Wonder Woman storyline that added a bunch of needless drama to the show.

Different people watch for different reasons but I don't want to watch Lanaville or Chloeville, I want a story based around Clark and feel that Clark should be put in the best light possible. It happens more often with Lanaville then Chloeville but I hate when Clark gets suffled to a supporting character on his own show and is made to look like an idiot to build up female character X. The problem starts happening when the add storylines that are better ment for Dawson's Creek, then a story about Clark Kent.

I understand alot of people who watch the show don't care much about Clark as long as there favorite character gets alot of screentime or looks good but some of us are Clark fans plan and simple.

[Kid Collins]

Put it this way if I was watching a show based on Wonder Woman, I would get annoyed if the "lead male" character got forced into storylines that had little or nothing to do with the Wonder Woman storyline that added a bunch of needless drama to the show.

Different people watch for different reasons but I don't want to watch Lanaville or Chloeville, I want a story based around Clark and feel that Clark should be put in the best light possible. It happens more often with Lanaville then Chloeville but I hate when Clark gets suffled to a supporting character on his own show and is made to look like an idiot to build up female character X

I understand alot of people who watch the show don't care much about Clark as long as there favorite character gets alot of screentime or looks good but some of us are Clark fans plan and simple.

You answered it. Everybody watches for different reasons. And this episode, imho, worked great without Clark getting the most screentime or being the sole focus.

To me, it's not about screentime but how that time is spent or the quality while on screen. Clark could have 30 minutes and if the ep is badly written, it will suck regardless of how much time CK is on in a particular ep.

[Exedore]

I understand alot of people who watch the show don't care much about Clark as long as there favorite character gets alot of screentime or looks good but some of us are Clark fans plan and simple.

It's sad that TPTB consistently fail to make their viewers care about the lead in the show. :(

[O'Neill]

Im still waiting to see this superman character. Suppose to be about some guy by the name of Clark. Ive been watching, but I havent seen this storyline yet. Maybe im watching the wrong show.....:confused::rolleyes:

Its like a badly written soap opera.... By teens, for teens, without the sexual stuff. Oh wait, give it time, someone will be pregnant. Wow, it really is a soap opera.

[Lori Lemaris]

I bet if Kristin Kreuk's Lana Lang stayed in Season 8, she will be the object of desire of every men in Smallville, just like Chloe Sullivan it is now.

[4Clana]

It's true, this is like Lexana recycled.

[smallvillereporter27]

Smallville = Krypton 90210...

As much as Chloe has been off-base lately, she can never be the new Lana and here's why: Chloe has consequences for her actions...Lana (pretty much) never did. Chloe trusts Davis and loses Jimmy, she runs of with Davis and alienates Oliver and Clark (and subsequently much of K-site) Also, how can we judge what Chloe is doing until we have fully seen this out?

[paolinki25]

Well, at least with Lexana (as sickening as that turned out to be in the end), we knew Lex was human. :lol:

I don't know. I still don't understand why Chloe insisted so much on protecting this guy. It's like the smart Chloe we all know and love went to hell the minute Davis started making puppy, constipated faces with "I can't live with you" bs.

[myankskent]

You answered it. Everybody watches for different reasons. And this episode, imho, worked great without Clark getting the most screentime or being the sole focus.

To me, it's not about screentime but how that time is spent or the quality while on screen. Clark could have 30 minutes and if the ep is badly written, it will suck regardless of how much time CK is on in a particular ep.

Well, I agree regarding the screentime. A lot of Clark screentime doesn't always mean that the episode will be good. With "Beast", I don't think that TPTB did a good job. Clark had a plan, and a good plan at that, and TPTB wrote the episode in such a way where Chloe was able to not only stop Clark, but give him a nice lecture to leave Clark dazed and confused. This all came after and before Oliver was giving Clark lectures about Davis.

As far as lexana goes, that was a walk in the park compared to Chlavis. I despised lexana but Lex was not some monster who went around murdering people right in front of Lana's face. This Chlavis storyline is an absolute disaster.

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As much as Chloe has been off-base lately, she can never be the new Lana and here's why: Chloe has consequences for her actions...Lana (pretty much) never did.


We have no idea if Chloe is going to have consequences for her actions. It's a little too early to tell at this point, but if she survives, I doubt that she is going to go to jail for harboring a murderer and I doubt that she is going to go to jail for covering up a murder when she threw that body out in the dumpster.

[darkone]

As far as lexana goes, that was a walk in the park compared to Chlavis. I despised lexana but Lex was not some monster who went around murdering people right in front of Lana's face. This Chlavis storyline is an absolute disaster.


Precisely. Furthermore Lana had a relationship (although platonic) with Lex before they got together. Big difference.

The huge problem that I have with Chloe here is, that she comes off as a gigantic hypocrite. She scolded Lana in Wrath for going against Lex, accused her of being wrong in killing for Clark. She's told her she's not worthy of Clark's love because of that. Yeah, shut the hell up Chloe!



As much as Chloe has been off-base lately, she can never be the new Lana and here's why: Chloe has consequences for her actions...Lana (pretty much) never did.

She certainly paid for the Lexana. She can't be with the man that she loves as an end result after all.

[xrayvision]

Precisely. Furthermore Lana had a relationship (although platonic) with Lex before they got together. Big difference.

The huge problem that I have with Chloe here is, that she comes off as a gigantic hypocrite. She scolded Lana in Wrath for going against Lex, accused her of being wrong in killing for Clark. She's told her she's not worthy of Clark's love because of that. Yeah, shut the hell up Chloe!




She certainly paid for the Lexana. She can't be with the man that she loves as an end result after all.

I hated Lexana and I'm hating what's going on now. I think Chloe needs to go based on what they've done with her. I can only see this getting worse. I read a horrible theory someone has about her next season and I think the writers are dumb enough to try it.

[Supsfan]

I read a horrible theory someone has about her next season and I think the writers are dumb enough to try it.

If it's turning Chloe's brain into a computer I think it's great, Chloe to me has always been the human Bat Computer :p

[xrayvision]

No, actually it a Chloe version of something that was done with Lana in season 6.

[Anu]

If Chloe is in season 9, then I don't know if I still want to watch that crap. It's just like seeing Lana, being apologized all over- again, just painful. Oh, I hate Chloe right now!

[Tatiana]

Oh yeah, after tonights episode chloe is definitely nearing more towards the character of lana lang. However, i believe no one can be worse than Lana herself. I'm so glad she's gone.


At least Clark isn't all blind to whatever Chloe does, he was pretty upset with her decision, and I loved how he made the decision of sending Davis to the phantom zone all by himself and how he threw Davis on the floor when they got to the Fortress, I think he was very disappointed on Chloe and felt betrayed

[Mr.White]

This is not about smart women making independent decisions. The decision Chloe made was anything but independent. It wasn't her decision to make, which is the biggest problem. So many things prove this. Jor-El's warnings to Clark about not involving humans regarding items involving his heritage is a big piece of evidence. This applied to the stones, to the Fortress, to Clark's training & to so many other things. Then there was Oliver's pointer to Clark about Chloe's involvement in the blue crystal in Bloodline, if I remember correctly. He said she was involved in something that only Clark should be involved with.

Besides Chloe making a decision that wasn't hers to make, her decision also puts the entire world in danger. And one of the most hypocritical things was how Chloe, whose ethics have clearly shown to be nothing like Clark's, was saying that Clark wasn't being ethical in sending Davis to the Zone. This is coming from someone who killed Sebastian Kane, who covered up Oliver's role in Lex's "death", who disposed of bodies killed by Davis, and who herself pressed the button to kill Davis in the kryptonite shower.

Chloe said she knows Clark & his ethics. She clearly doesn't especially after how questionable or lacking hers have been. She also doesn't know anything about Clark's thoughts. Clark said it himself that no matter how closely he gets with those he makes friends with or even his parents, nobody truly understands him. This is why Superman is an outsider and why only he can make certain decisions as seen over the last 70 years.

Chloe's decision clearly shows she has no understanding of why the Phantom Zone is used. She hasn't even been in it, whereas Clark has.

Unfortunately, the "ensemble" of Smallville no longer supports the main character. The "ensemble" used to be a part of the background, not overshadowing the central character. This changed in season 4 & a lot more in season 5 when the ensemble went from the background & moved into the foreground.

Chloe is clearly not the same character she was in the first 3 seasons. She hasn't been her own character for a very long time. She's been more like a messed up conjoined siamese twin of Clark's. Chloe was my favorite young female when the show started & that changed in Arrival as soon as they turned her into Clark's "brain" and turned her into a smug, order-barking, know-it-all, flawless, drama-queen type. Chloe was always an underdog who was realistically written when the show started. She was flawed & had her limitations, where she had a network of contacts to help her. Season 5 changed all of that when she got her magic hacking powers, her magic laptop, and felt like she needed to tell Clark what to do and when to do it. Not only did they destroy eveything I loved about Chloe in season 5, but more importantly they destroyed Clark.

I know you'll never agree with me, but I'm just saying it as it is.

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I wouldn't say that. I loathe Lana and Chloe took a huge step towards that same fate in Beast.



Fabulous post xrayvision. Just fabulous. It explains Smallville, as it currently is, in a nutshell. No one can really deny this description of the show either. Especially the show's producers.

[bigblueplanet]

1) falling for the enemy (check)

2) threatening doctors (check)

3) lying to Clark (check)

4) getting in Clark's way of doing his job (check)

5) convincing herself that she has matters way over her head under control (check)

6) using the guise of 'protecting Clark' to forward her own agenda (check)


etc

Yep.

When she said "Trust YOU?!" to Clark at the FoS, it was the moment Chloe becomes officially the new version of Lana for me.

[smallvillefreak24]

thats not fair
she is not the same

[Supsfan]

thats not fair
she is not the same

While I would agree Chloe and Lana are 2 different character, but the angsty drama that has nothing to do with Clark is rather similar. All that being said we shouldn't be suprised Chloe adopted Lana's role on the show. I find that to be Chloe's MO on this show.

S4: Pete leaves, Chloe becomes bff and secret keeper
S5: Clark's brain dissapears, Chloe becomes his brain
S6+S7: Ma and Pa Kent leave, Chloe now fills in for there parential talks
S8: Lana leaves, Chloe picks up the needless angsty drama part from Lana

It seems like whenever an important character leaves the show, there role on the show just gets shoved on to Chloe. Maybe they should come up with a storyline in Season 9 that Chloe secretly is trying to get rid of everybody important in Clark's life using voodoo so she can dominate his affections and Clark finally catches on to her going by what we saw from S4-now it would make alot of sense.

[bigblueplanet]

thats not fair
she is not the same

I agree. It's not fair for Chloe at all. She should be portrayed as BFF/confidant of Clark who understands and has a faith in Clark no matter what and supports & helps Clark, imo. Because that's what her character was written ever since she's learned his secret, right?

Who is she now? A impostor? If she is doing what she is doing only because of protecting Clark as she said, she should have worked with Clark and trapped Davis into PZ together. JMO

I have no idea why these writers are ruining their last original precious character.

[BULLITT]

High-time to kill her off.

[4Clana]

Yep.

When she said "Trust YOU?!" to Clark at the FoS, it was the moment Chloe becomes officially the new version of Lana for me.
Yeah it did sound like a Lana line. The way Chloe spoke was so "holier than thou" and delusional. The whole Chloe admonishing Clark should have been the other way around. The reality is she is the one knowingly harboring a serial killer. For all her efforts, people are still dying, so Chloe hasn't done any good.

It all came off as being an incredibly selfish move. Doing it so she could be the one to save Clark, at least in her mind.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I hate to say it but I think Chloe is on the same path that Lana was/ is on...

That makes me sad

[SGuthrie27]

While I agree that some of the original poster's points are valid, let's please not turn this into another "Let's Kill Off Chloe" thread. I do think that TPTB went a little overboard this season. They went from giving Chloe almost NOTHING to do and hardly any major episodes in Season 7 to being the front-running female in Season 8 who has practically every important storyline revolving around her character, her feelings, and her actions. While I like seeing an increased use of Chloe, I don't appreciate it if it involves the assassination of the virtuous character traits so many viewers have come to love about her.

And I don't believe that Lana is a completely hate-worthy character either. I don't like to see her get completely reviled, even though she did do plenty of things to gain my ire over the course of the years. The fact of the matter is that the characters are going to get written however the writers want to write them, and there's little we can do to stop them other than continue to debate and complain on the messageboards... which doesn't mean we should stop trying, though, right? ;)

Anyway, I still love the character of Chloe Sullivan, flawed though she may be. She always has been though. It's just that this season, her flaws are more borne out of her seeming need to protect Clark and the world at all costs, even when she can't seem to see what we all can, which is what the ultimate consequences of her actions will be. I still love Chloe, though, and will never refer to her as the new Lana.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[HeroesUnlimited]

Actually, Chloe is the new "Sageeth" lol :)

[xrayvision]

^^As sad as it is, she, Lana & Oliver did more damage to Clark's character than Lex ever did.

[zanaamen]

You can say that again. Lana leaving has not changed this show at all. If anything, "Beast" proved that, IMO. If it's not Lana, it's Chloe. If it's not Chloe, I'm sure someone else will get the honor next season.

I completely agree with your comment. ;)

[CloisFan17]

hmm why do I think this makes for a good bashing thread???!!!!

[RedKRules]

I totally disagree that Chloe is the new Lana, but yet I am totally sure that Lana was the one that had the worst treatments on boards, evertything was blamed on her .... and since she is gone .... that duty went to Chloe .... so I am sure Lana should be thanking the heavens now for leaving ....

[Supsfan]

I totally disagree that Chloe is the new Lana, but yet I am totally sure that Lana was the one that had the worst treatments on boards, evertything was blamed on her .... and since she is gone .... that duty went to Chloe .... so I am sure Lana should be thanking the heavens now for leaving ....

Problem is both of them seem to be involved in the overly dramatic angsty needless drama that I can't stand on this show. I will preference that by saying that Chloe's overly dramatic angsty needless drama is nowhere as near as bad as Lana's overly dramatic angsty needless drama, but it's still indirectly the same soap opara-ish crap, different character

To put stuff in proper context, it would be like if I was watching a show about the life and times of Barack Obama before he made it as a Senator, and half of it was focused on female person X 's problems that just drag down the feel good part of the story that I want to see.

[CloisFan17]

I agree Kelly I mean now that Lana was gone Chloe is blamed for everything. I don't like Lana at all but I won't sit there & bash her over & over. I hate when people do that & I don't even blame her for anything

[RedKRules]

Problem is both of them seem to be involved in the overly dramatic angsty needless drama that I can't stand on this show. I will preference that by saying that Chloe's overly dramatic angsty needless drama is nowhere as near as bad as Lana's overly dramatic angsty needless drama, but it's still indirectly the same soap opara-ish crap, different character

Well it´s not Chloe´s fault she is involved in all this, the character has to portray what the writers wants.... and I don´t think that is the reason to compare her to Lana, I think it is totally disrepectful to both characters ..... I am sure if Chloe doesn´t survive this year ... someonelse will be blamed and people will go like ...... doesn´t this character X looks like the new lana, and Chloe now????? ... believe me I know it is so much easier to find someone to blame .... that is something that will never change ....

[CloisFan17]

yeah why are people blaming Chloe??? gosh

[Supsfan]

yeah why are people blaming Chloe??? gosh

Because "Chloe is the New Lana" is a more catchy title then "The writers/producers stuck at writing drama for female leads" :P

[RedKRules]

yeah why are people blaming Chloe??? gosh

Because people are bored and need to find someone to pick on .....

[Joanna]

I agree. Add to this:
7) always convinced she's right even if heaven and earth screams otherwise
8) tendency to mess with matters too serious for her to handle (like when Lana thought the stones were obviusly meant for her)

[VagrantDream]

Because people are bored and need to find someone to pick on .....
Just so.

[Joanna]

People are blaming Chloe because she IS to blame for not sending Davis to PZ

[Exedore]

Just coz Chloe said "Stop!" doesn't meant Clark had to stop (sending Davis to the PZ). She's not his mother....or is she? :rolleyes: Clark's inaction was pathetic IMO.

Blame the poor writing for the inconsistent characterizations. :/

[RedKalEL]

4 men are all concered and worried about her(check)

[xrayvision]

Just coz Chloe said "Stop!" doesn't meant Clark had to stop (sending Davis to the PZ). She's not his mother....or is she? :rolleyes: Clark's inaction was pathetic IMO.

Blame the poor writing for the inconsistent characterizations. :/

Well, as is so evident in the past, Lana lecturing/preaching her ideals to Clark made him a BDA in the past. Now that they did the same with Chloe, it had the same effect.

What kills me is that anytime Clark is written as pathetic, it is his fault. But when other characters are written like crap, it's the writers' fault. The problem is Chloe should have never been written the way she was starting in Arrival. It was inevitable that once she was written unnaturally perfect & a solution to all of Clark's problems which was simultaneous with the writers turning Clark into a lazy, inactive dope, she would have to be torn down so Clark could be returned to his previous intelligence (something that still hasn't happened completely). The Clark we had in the early seasons who put Chloe in her place when she was getting involved in things that were his business & not hers (as seen in Zero, Lineage, Whisper) would have never been so foolish. But the Chloe we had back then would not have done what she did & isn't the same Chloe that did all of Clark's thinking & barking orders at him starting in Arrival.

[CloisFan17]

Because people are bored and need to find someone to pick on .....


Yes thank you kelly I see I am not the only one that feels this way

[Davis Bloome]

I think there more who would agree with that, me for instance.

[CloisFan17]

^^Thanks & yeah good I hate the Chloe bashing going on

[RedKRules]

Yes thank you kelly I see I am not the only one that feels this way

sure, I already have something pictured for next season if Chloe doesn´t make it ..... Shelby will be the next target ..... people will go likeeee Ahhhhh Shelby sucks and should die, Shelby is slowing Clark´s journey, loooooook he can fly and has superpowers .... bring Shelby down .... they will always find someone to blame on, if it is not Lana and Chloe .... it will definitely be someonelse.

[doodie8808]

People are blaming Chloe because she IS to blame for not sending Davis to PZ


i totally agree hate her die already!:mad:

[KneelBeforeZod!]

i totally agree hate her die already!:mad:

Die Chloe Die!!!!!

[RedKRules]

i totally agree hate her die already!:mad:

Thank gosh we can´t always get what we want :)

[Joanna]

I don't think that discussing a character's wrongdoings or lapses of judgement is necesserily bashing. Unless we treat as bashing anything wrong said about the character. People are discussing Cloe not because they are bored and need someone to pick on but because her chices affect the main current storyline. Many fans just find them questionable and want to discuss it.
Every character gets their fair deal of anger when fans are annoyed by their conduct.

[CloisFan17]

Haha Kelly I freaking love you lol

[Davis Bloome]

Discussing ones' mistake, there's nothing wrong with that, but when you see things like 'I want her to die, or even things like 'die die die!!!'. Well then you can guess there's more to it then just discussing her mistakes. If you're saying your opinion of the mistakes she made, that's fine... If you keep babbling on about it, well then you again know there's more to it, and that's what you often see here.

[AntMagister]

People say things like those because it's very boring to see again this kind of behaviour. Writers have to think about that. I only hope they don't keep this particular line next season. Clark doesn't need to be protected anymore.

[CloisFan17]

True so thats all the more reason for Davis to stay :)

[Davis Bloome]

Well Lana was actually doing it for Clark, whether Chloe is only doing it for Clark is debatable. Cause I know what Davis said in that trailer. But still I'm sceptical.

[RedKRules]

I don't think that discussing a character's wrongdoings or lapses of judgement is necesserily bashing. Unless we treat as bashing anything wrong said about the character. People are discussing Cloe not because they are bored and need someone to pick on but because her chices affect the main current storyline. Many fans just find them questionable and want to discuss it.
Every character gets their fair deal of anger when fans are annoyed by their conduct.

Why do I get the feeling that only Chloe is being the one questionable discussed around here?? oh wait ... seriously there is no fair judgement on this.

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People say things like those because it's very boring to see again this kind of behaviour. Writers have to think about that. I only hope they don't keep this particular line next season. Clark doesn't need to be protected anymore.

I didn´t like how Chloe written sometimes this season either, but I don´t go out like asking for death, like it would change anything ....

Clark is a lot more independent this season .... but he does need help, he is not invulnerable .. (greenK) and he is far from being the Man of Steel IMO!