Fortress of Doom.......

[superhippie2000]

great scene really cool. loved the fight and the phantom zone effect :D but why did clark keep the phantom zone crystal for so long?

[xrayvision]

That was BS. That crystal was no longer in the FOS after Solitude. Where was it all this time?

[superhippie2000]

maybe shelby had it :lol:

[O'Neill]

What a joke..... this show is heading south.

[moviefan2k4]

Also, since when can a mortal remove that crystal from the Fortress' control panel? I thought only Clark could remove it, but Chloe yanked it right out.

[REebee52]

Also, since when can a mortal remove that crystal from the Fortress' control panel? I thought only Clark could remove it, but Chloe yanked it right out.

I don't recall that being a problem. And didn't Clark say he picked up the frequency and found it.

[moviefan2k4]

Clark isn't mortal, and neither was Brainiac. They both were able to touch that black crystal. If Clark's the only one who could use it in the Fortress (as Brainiac confessed in "Solitude"), it stands to reason he'd be the only one who could remove it as well. The writers even pushed this idea further in Season 7, with Zor-El telling Kara, "only Kal-El can remove it".

[superhippie2000]

maybe since the fortress was damaged it didnt work the way it was ment to and made it weak where anyone can put something in it.

[moviefan2k4]

If that were the case, they should've explained it as such, or at least have Clark be surprised when Chloe pulls the crystal from the console. As it is, I'm chalking this one up to a rather large plot hole.

[chloesmygirl]

How does Davis have powers when he's not Doomsday? I mean what's the point of him turning into Doomsday if he already has powers as Davis?

[shanemak]

I don't know about the fortress, but Clark needs to get super-powered Lana to help him out. If Clark wants to be a sissy, fine. Lana will handle business.

[Bizarrolover]

Also, since when can a mortal remove that crystal from the Fortress' control panel? I thought only Clark could remove it, but Chloe yanked it right out.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Apparently, now that the fortress is black anyone can reshuffle ore remove the crystals. Soon there will be free passes to the Fortress of Solitude and if you put the crystals in the right position, you'll win a bottle of Jor-el antibacterial soap.

[myankskent]

That was BS. That crystal was no longer in the FOS after Solitude. Where was it all this time?

I know. Suddenly, there's a crystal and suddenly, the fortress is giving off a signal of being alive after we had just found out in "Infamous" that the fortress was dead.

[xrayvision]

If that Crystal was alive, Brainiac would have returned from it years ago.

[Kschreck]

Continuity errors are really beginning to plague this show and it's a definite sign that the writers are really getting bored with Smallville which is a real huge shame.

[jpfort1957]

How does Davis have powers when he's not Doomsday? I mean what's the point of him turning into Doomsday if he already has powers as Davis?

Davis is still a creature of Krypton, but when he transforms to Doomsday he's larger and much more powerful.

[SnowBird]

Also, since when can a mortal remove that crystal from the Fortress' control panel? I thought only Clark could remove it, but Chloe yanked it right out.

I wondered that myself, but then I remembered that when Chloe pulled out the crystal she was holding the key which could have given her permission.

[yaseen101]

a) It was a piece of Brainiac and not an actual piece of the Fortress so it obviously works differently than the Fortress crystals.

b) The Fortress was dead and it was probably the crystal itself doing all the work. It's likely that because of that the Crystal was easily removed by a human. It's also likely that Brainiac originally programmed the crystal so that it can't be removed by humans.

[superhippie2000]

How does Davis have powers when he's not Doomsday? I mean what's the point of him turning into Doomsday if he already has powers as Davis?
well davis has certian powers when he needs them and is going to turn into doomsday like when his eyes turn red. i think he has full powers and full control when he is doomsday cause clark punching him was much easier when fighting davis then when fighting doomy. if davis turned into doomy clark wouldnt have a chance. like at the wedding clark couldnt even touch doomy and was easiy attacked.

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If that Crystal was alive, Brainiac would have returned from it years ago.
i think when clark killed brainiac last season it killed his power in the crystal but the crystal was still prgrammed to open the zone.

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Continuity errors are really beginning to plague this show and it's a definite sign that the writers are really getting bored with Smallville which is a real huge shame.
it could be worse i guess. i like the show but its episode by episode. wish they did more arc developement like LOST does or something lol. i dont think its much of being bored just that they hire some writters that probably havent watched all the episodes and just focus on recent stuff from this season and perhaps last. could also explain why shelby was a he but last week was a she we havent seen him in forever and the writter is like hm shelby sounds like a girl name so must be a girl. :\

[xrayvision]

i think when clark killed brainiac last season it killed his power in the crystal but the crystal was still prgrammed to open the zone.

The main thing is, that crystal disappeared in Solitude. It was a part of Brainiac--like Milton Fine & the Black Ship, which also disappeared. As cool as it was to see it, it shouldn't exist as a result of those events.

[Var-Zol]

its not a piece of brainiac, merely a kryptonian crystal programmed by him. it retains its function even after brainiac is gone.

[xrayvision]

its not a piece of brainiac, merely a kryptonian crystal programmed by him. it retains its function even after brainiac is gone.

I disagree. It had Brainiac's coding in it. Brainiac didn't pull it out of nowhere. He got it from the Black Ship, which itself was declared by Jor-El on screen to be Brainiac. It is the same color as the ship and as the ooze & crystals that form into Milton Fine as seen at the end of Arrival and Hypnotic.

In Solitude, the black crystal falls out of Brainiac's hand before he disappears. It's never shown again in that episode, so we don't know 100% if it disappeared too, but I always believed it did. After all, it was programmed to open the portal to the Phantom Zone and free Zod, the main objective of Brainiac's. So why wouldn't it be part of Brainiac & contained his coding? If not Brainiac, who would have coded it? Why did the Fortress glow red in Vessel when Brainiac was stabbed with the dagger like it did in Solitude?

Regardless of these reasons, I thought that showing that black crystal just now after seeing no sign of it since Solitude was just a WTH moment. Why did he keep such a dangerous thing? Where did he keep it that Zor-El, Bizarro & others who showed up since didn't find it? More importantly, if Clark had that crystal all this time, why the hell didn't he use it to send Phantom Zone criminals back to the Zone in season 6, especially when the FOS was destroyed?

[superhippie2000]

The main thing is, that crystal disappeared in Solitude. It was a part of Brainiac--like Milton Fine & the Black Ship, which also disappeared. As cool as it was to see it, it shouldn't exist as a result of those events.
oh ya thats true. unless it was recreated when brainiac created the fortress of doom. but ya for the most part connections in this show dont work and its like umm ok let just watch and not try to make sense of it lol.

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its not a piece of brainiac, merely a kryptonian crystal programmed by him. it retains its function even after brainiac is gone.
ya he programmed it so part of him would probably be in it.

[xrayvision]

That's a good point. The only problem is that they shouldn't have had Clark mention it being the same crystal Brainiac used to conduct Zod's release. They could have shown it being recreated in Legion.