Best 20th Episode of the Series?

[Jaderoyale]

Was Beast the best 20th episode of the series? Here are your other options;

Season 1 – Obscura
Lana is blown away by a gas explosion whilst randomly wandering in a field with Whitney. She develops the power of clairvoyance from the joyous meteor rock fragments that were round her and sees Chloe getting kidnapped, as though she was the attacker. Clark relies on Lana’s visions to find Chloe before its too late. Meanwhile, Lex is visited by Roger Nixon and Clark contemplates asking Chloe to the formal.

Season 2 – Witness
Clark witnesses a Luthorcorp van being stolen and launches his own investigation to discover that the robbers are using Kryptonite inhalers to give themselves super strength. Meanwhile, Clark quits the Torch after an argument with Chloe. Lionel pops back up and gives Chloe a tempting offer.

Season 3 – Talisman
Professor Willowbrook brings his assistant Jeremiah to the Kawatche caves with him to see what Lionel is doing to them. Jeremiah takes a relic out of Lionel’s hands which transforms into a knife, giving him the same powers as Clark. Prof. Willowbrook insists that Clark is still Naman and that the knife belongs to him, though it will be destroyed by his greatest enemy. Jeremiah thinks Lionel is the enemy, but is he right? Also, Lana decides to move to Paris and Pete tells Chloe his parents are divorcing.

Season 4 – Ageless
Lana and Clark find a baby randomly out in the middle of the field and take him home. Turns out he was abandoned and has the ability to age fast over a small space of time. Lionel meets with Genevieve Teague who threatens to kill Lex unless he gives her the stone.

Season 5 – Fade
Clark saves Graham Garrett from being hit by a car outside the Metropolis courthouse. Graham insists on paying Clark back, with the promise of getting him back together with Lana. Clark gets angry with Chloe for her not telling him about Lex and Lana and struggles as to whether to let Graham kill Lex. Oh and he randomly sees Lois naked.

Season 6 – Noir
After a secret meeting with Lionel, Lana gets shot at the Daily Planet. Jimmy gets a whack on the head and wakes up in an AU universe in black and white, where; Chloe is in charge of some part of the |Daily Planet, Clark is a bumbling reporter with glasses by day and a crime saver by night, Lana is a femme fatal, Lois is a club singer and Lex is… well Lex. Who is having an affair with Lois. All this leads Jimmy to start to piece together how Lana got shot. In the real world Lana reveals the real reason why she married Lex to Chloe.

Season 7 – Artic
The seventh season finale, which sees Clark believing that Kara is under the
Influence of Red K, though it isn’t Kara. She gives Lex coordinates to the fortress and is revealed as being Brainiac by Chloe, who then gets infected but not before attempting to heal herself from his attack. Lana wakes up… and leaves. Lois gives Clark a Daily Planet application. Lex goes to the Fortress ready to ‘save mankind’ from Clark.

Season 8 - Beast
Chloes, Beauty and the Beast scenario takes a turn, with her deciding to flee Smallville with Davis. To protect Clark?


Cn a mod close this thread till after the episode airs please? :)

[costas22]

Thanks Jade. Beast should win out of this bunch but i am not too optimistic with Clark directing Injustice.

[Supsfan]

I am going to take a wild guess Ageless won't win this one. Noir another of my worst 10 episodes ever list and looking at the description I forgot how bad Witness was.

Talisman is a pointless episode now since we all know Davis is Sageeth so the whole knife thing had no point. lol

[Davis Bloome]

Of course Artic has a chance of winning as it was a season finale, though certainly not the best one of course.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

You know what we should do? We should watch ALL the other episodes in time to watch Beast, so that ALL the episodes are fresh in our minds. JMO :D

Thanks Jade :)

[costas22]

I am NOT watching Ageless again! :lol:

This is not a strong bunch so Beast has a good chance.

[Jaderoyale]

I am NOT watching Ageless again! :lol:

This is not a strong bunch so Beast has a good chance.

I'll commit suicide if i watch Ageless again.

[thehenry89]

arctic was the best

[green_arrow_girl358]

aw, i thought ageless was ok. arctic is totally the best but i don't think it's a fair fight cause that was a finale. not that we can change that. beast was amazingly good though

[Melekith]

Two things...

1. I would actually hold Arctic out of these polls until the season finale. In my opinion I would caompare it with other season finales, rather than its actual episode slot.

2. Beast. Period.

['Tonio09]

Hate to admit it. But Beast is the best out of these.

[Supsfan]

Probably Artic, but I figure it better to compare that to other Season finals, so I went with my second choice Fade(sort of the best of the bunch not actually that wonderful an episode)

Beast just didn't do it for me, seemed like a plot I would expect from Lana

[REebee52]

On the whole, the twentieth episode has been terrible.
Talisman wins, and I don't think we should count Doomsday as Sageeth. It's still Lex, Tess is just wrong.

Keep Arctic on, and then put it on for the finale as well. Besides it was a sh**y episode anyway...

1. Talisman
2. Beast
3. Fade
4. Witness
5. Obscura
6. Arctic
7. Noir
8. Ageless

Man, 7 and 8 are two of the worst to date...

[gilliang]

Ugh. Beast sucked. I guess I'll say Arctic.

[AndiGirl]

It was just so intense and dark....Beast wins by a landslide with me!

[Night_Hawk90]

wow 20th episodes have been pretty horrible but i think talisman was way better than beast

[Supsfan]

wow 20th episodes have been pretty horrible but i think talisman was way better than beast

Only problem with Talisman is we found out in Eternal the knife was pointless :P, but yeah I have to say episode #20 is not a great lot to pick from

[hamburgers]

I really liked beast

[Firebunny]

Obsura and Talisman are really good episodes, but I had to go with Beast. This episode pwns me.

[Kalista]

I love Obscura but Beast wins in my book.

[AgentChaos]

Beast
Obscura
Arctic
Noir
Witness
Talisman
Fade
Ageless

[Diego*Chloe]

Beast
Obscura
Arctic
Noir
Witness
Talisman
Fade
Ageless


ITA!!!

[ginnyfan]

It's between Talisman and Beast. Um...

[susangail]

Talisman wins.

[alienkinfolk]

Beast then Talisman

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Beast, for sure.

[Lexsghost]

How does it happen that every new episode is the best episode ever? I think you need to wait a while before voting.

[disciples of zod]

sorry all. i'm a huuuuuuuuuuge sucker for Noir please don't kill me...*hides*

although Beast was a very close second

~K

[liana]

Talisman, of course. The best written 20th episode of SV.

[LoveHurts38]

Artic

[Supsfan]

How does it happen that every new episode is the best episode ever? I think you need to wait a while before voting.

lol I guess usually people will pick what is the freshest in there head at the moment, so episodes that are 2-3 years old have a bigger advantage over older episodes. I probably should have picked Talisman(terrible Eternal retcon not withstanding) but Fade was more recent in my head(which was a decent enough episode)

[Cyn]

Personally, I think you should have asked which 20th episode sucked the least. I'll go with Artic because it had Lois giving Clark the DP application and a hug.

[zorasuperman]

i loved arctic the whole fortress collapsing was great :D

[Bizarrolover]

Is it just me or all 20th episodes are really mediocre?

Talisman wasn't bad (wounded Clark is always attractive) and Beast was very dramatic, though I don't think I'll see it more than once. I'd be surprised if Clark has more than 15 minutes of screentime in this episode. I liked Oliver in this episode, though I think there's something wrong with him.

[jpfort1957]

Beast........it starts the 2 week count down to Doomsday.

[Rhaspodel]

Beast...Clark vs. Davis/Doomsday part 1

or

Arctic...Clark vs. Lex for the last time????

AND BOTH WERE IN THE FORTRESS. Interesting!

both were the best and I choose a tie for the best 20th episode because these two were amazing.

[Lilah]

I hate the retcon of Talisman and the Kawatchee caves... so to me its like Eternal never happened and pretty soon I hope to forget about Beast too. The worst episodes of the season for me have been Chlavis centered.... I hope neither of them come back next season.

[kryptotrite]

Obscura was good. Talisman was awesome :)

[lana 9]

obscura then beast

[Jlvsclrk]

What a pathetic list.

[AgentChaos]

Personally, I think you should have asked which 20th episode sucked the least. I'll go with Artic because it had Lois giving Clark the DP application and a hug.

That was one of the worst parts of Arctic. Only Chloe being "arrested" by the "DDS" was more craptacular.

[wingster55]

Beast

[The Dark Knight74]

Obscura.

[Kschreck]

Arctic was probably my favorite of the choices.

[Exedore]

Talisman by a mile. The closing scene (with Lex interpreting Sageeth as the real hero) alone is an epic win.

[Supsfan]

Talisman by a mile. The closing scene (with Lex interpreting Sageeth as the real hero) alone is an epic win.

So Doomsday is the real hero then? Wow talk about forshadowing way back in Season 3 :P

[Exedore]

So Doomsday is the real hero then? Wow talk about forshadowing way back in Season 3 :P



Say hello to Mr. Doomsboy :D



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;)

[SGuthrie27]

I went with "Obscura" for the pure Chlarky goodness. Clark asking Chloe to the Spring Formal and the reactions by both of them? PRICELESS.

"Witness" was not a terribly good episode. Lots of fighting between the characters made it rather uncomfortable, and the kryptonite-inhaling Freaks of the Week were not all that inspired.

"Talisman" was pretty cool, especially because of the return of Dr. Willowbrook (was that his name? I can't remember...), and the continued mythology of Naman/Sageeth.

"Ageless?" Indeed, it should be categorized as an ageless example of the worst Smallville has to offer, LOL.

"Fade" wasn't terribly great to me, either. Not horrible, but not that memorable either.

"Noir" was a little cheesy, but kind of cool. It had nice elements, and Jimmy really did deserve the chance to have an episode devoted to him.

"Arctic" probably gets second place in my mind. It had some very cool moments, and of course, some of the most important scenes of the season, including the final showdown between Clark and Lex in the Fortress, and Lana's departure.

I have such a love/hate relationship with "Beast." I loved the performances it brought out of several of the main actors, I liked that they're finally moving Jimmy in a positive direction, and I enjoyed the last Chlark scene immensely, but there were a lot of other plot elements and characterization pieces that bothered me quite a bit. So, I can only give this episode third or fourth place billing.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[badraven]

My take:

1. Arctic (yet another great season finale)
2. Beast
3. Noir (very underrated episode IMO)
4. Obscura (some of the best Clark/Chole scenes of the series!)
5. Witness
6. Talisman
7. Ageless (its an OK episode)
8. Fade (one of the weakest episodes of the series IMO)

[costas22]

Not much of a competition for Beast.If Arctic hadn't been so spoiled by the CW and it wasn't so disjointed, it would have been better than Beast IMO.

[roccanater]

"Beast" and then "Arctic" close behind.

[AntMagister]

I understand that Arctic is not one of the better season finales, but I have chosen it because contains the last comparison between clark and lex, that is the first where they really know each other.

[Davis Bloome]

Call me biased but this was better than Arctic. I mean Arctic was flawed (and Beast also contains a few) and it's still a powerful episode, but it's the episode where we lose Lex in. And that was a big loss which is partially why I like and don't like it, cause Lex was a great villain.

[mimi1123]

Wow, notice how often the word "random" comes up in those descriptions?? Episode 20 must mean "filler week" in Vancouver. I rated Talisman as the best. Beast and Arctic are the other two non-fillers, so I put them as second and third. Among the remaining, all filler episodes, I think Noir and Obscura were far better than the other 3.

[Davis Bloome]

Yeah Talisman is very good and I don't care about the new Sageeth theory, it doesn't change how I think about this new episode.

[friendsita]

Beast by far... one of my fav of all smallville.

[REebee52]

Talisman also had a sweet fight. He used a tree for a baseball bat.

[Theshadow129x]

beast

[Krypton935]

i really liked Talisman but I definitely have to go with Beast Great EP!!!! :D

[oberyn]

Personally, I think you should have asked which 20th episode sucked the least. I'll go with Artic because it had Lois giving Clark the DP application and a hug.

:rotfl:

You're right, this isn't exactly a collection of Smallville's finest moments. This time last year, I'd have definitely gone with Talisman, but now that episode's denouement has been rendered completely meaningless. :rolleyes:

I went with Arctic simply because of the season finale factor.

[Jaderoyale]

Who voted for Ageless? :lol:


I'm going with Beast with Noir a close second. I think im one of the only people who likes that episode.

[costas22]

Who voted for Ageless? :lol:


I'm going with Beast with Noir a close second. I think im one of the only people who likes that episode.

What's the difference between Noir and Relic Jade? Relic was not close to the end of the season and expectations weren't as high. When i saw Noir, it felt like a waste of time because we were so close to Phantom. But now i always enjoy it. Jeannot has done a fantastic job with the directing. The only thing i never figured out is who shot Lana and on who's orders. Did you? I agree about Ageless! That person has the biggest heart in the world! He didn't want Ageless to get 0%!

[dcmarriott]

I'm going with Beast with Noir a close second. I think im one of the only people who likes that episode.

I've watched just the black and white middle section of Noir, and it's actually a pretty good little 20 minute film noir, with all of the earmarks of the genre. And Erica Durance sings quite well. A lot of people don't like the episode because it was a filler episode, but it stands up well on its own.

[JorEl23]

BEST to WORST: (Or the lesser of all crap episodes in the case of this group...I never realized that the 20th episode of the season(s) have been by far the worst group I've seen since I started reviewing the "best episode" weekly thread)

1) Season 3 – Talisman

2) Season 2 – Witness

3) Season 6 – Noir

4) Season 7 – Artic

5) Season 1 – Obscura

6) Season 8 - Beast

7) Season 4 – Ageless

8) Season 5 – Fade

On a side note, and I'm sure I'll be labeled a Chlark hater for this (not the 1st time and I'm sure it won't be the last) but looking back all the 20th episodes...anyone else realize that Chloe has been a major pain in CK's @ss in one way or another almost every season! Episode 20's are not Ms. Sullivan's strong suit...

[marcella]

Beast was the best of all

[justme_007]

Beast was the best imo

[Jill]

Beast for me.

[Clarkgirl8]

Ugh. Obscura it's a close second. BEAST!

[Canary]

beast. deff.

& Does anyone know the song playing at the end, and the beginning of beast?"

[Vindellavon]

Obscura and Beast are at the same level, but I give it to Beast. The last scene was EPIC.

[super_j_man]

Hmmmm....Beast was definitely not the best IMO. Talisman was pretty good and so was Obscura. Artic was better the 2nd time I watched for some reason. But I'll have to go with Noir. Call me wierd but for some reason I just really thought the episode was really cool!

Noir
Talisman
Artic
Obscura
Beast
Witness
Ageless
Fade

[Night_Hawk90]

Talisman
witness
obscura
arctic
beast
fade
noir
ageless

[rajman]

Beast, we finnally get to see clark angry and emotional and we can see him change

[SuperheroFan87]

I chose "Noir" as the best 20th episode. I know I'm in the minority, but I liked how most of it was filmed in black and white, plus it was a nice storyline that was lighthearted........definetly one of my favorite episodes of Season 6.

[SnowBird]

Talisman with Beast as second.

[super_j_man]

I chose "Noir" as the best 20th episode. I know I'm in the minority, but I liked how most of it was filmed in black and white, plus it was a nice storyline that was lighthearted........definetly one of my favorite episodes of Season 6.

At least you're not alone in that minority. :)

[Bizarrolover]

I chose "Noir" as the best 20th episode. I know I'm in the minority, but I liked how most of it was filmed in black and white, plus it was a nice storyline that was lighthearted........definetly one of my favorite episodes of Season 6.


You're not alone! I liked the b/w part of Noir, Clark looked gorgeous, though I hated the color part, especially Lana's wound changing shoulders in every scene. I voted for Talisman, though.

[Luthorism]

How does it happen that every new episode is the best episode ever? I think you need to wait a while before voting.

Agreed.. I follow this type of threads and mostly newest episodes win.. People forget episodes pretty quickly i guess..

[petitemimi]

I've watched just the black and white middle section of Noir, and it's actually a pretty good little 20 minute film noir, with all of the earmarks of the genre. And Erica Durance sings quite well. A lot of people don't like the episode because it was a filler episode, but it stands up well on its own.

I agree. And they won an award for the cinematography on this one. It was extremely well done. So Noir and Talisman for me.

[Iluvgreen]

Fade is soooooo cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[REebee52]

Noir did have good cinematography, but I thought it was a craptastic episode. Not nearly as bad as Ageless though.
I'm confused at why Fade is getting the hate? It wasn't a great episode, but it wasn't bad. All in all, it was not very memorable, for better or worse.

[AgentChaos]

Noir did have good cinematography, but I thought it was a craptastic episode. Not nearly as bad as Ageless though.
I'm confused at why Fade is getting the hate? It wasn't a great episode, but it wasn't bad. All in all, it was not very memorable, for better or worse.

That's the problem- it's forgettable. It gets lost in the shuffle.

[costas22]

Fade was too close to the finale and personally, i wanted a better plot. At least it did have Erica in the shower, so i can't complain too much!

[Supsfan]

Noir did have good cinematography, but I thought it was a craptastic episode. Not nearly as bad as Ageless though.

Way I look at Noir is it was 20 minutes of useless filler, 20 minutes of a very average storyline. Whenever I see the B&W stuff I just imagine the producers patting themselves on the back thinking how wonderful and inventive they are, much like alot of other crap on this show.

[REebee52]

That's the problem- it's forgettable. It gets lost in the shuffle.

Right, which says to me it should be an average episode, not one of the worst. I remember so much of the horrible episodes I've seen once and the ones that I love. With the average ones I just remember the basic plot. I thought Fade was a slightly better than average episode.

[gardenia]

I voted Fade

[petitemimi]

Way I look at Noir is it was 20 minutes of useless filler, 20 minutes of a very average storyline. Whenever I see the B&W stuff I just imagine the producers patting themselves on the back thinking how wonderful and inventive they are, much like alot of other crap on this show.

Well, for once, I think they deserved the pat on the back for the B & W cinematography only. It was exactly like a film noir from the 40s. I agree the episode was the most useless filler of them all; but I enjoyed watching the cast in a 40's like movie. I never really understood the story and I never tried to. I just enjoyed the pretty. :o

[Supsfan]

Well, for once, I think they deserved the pat on the back for the B & W cinematography only. It was exactly like a film noir from the 40s. I agree the episode was the most useless filler of them all; but I enjoyed watching the cast in a 40's like movie. I never really understood the story and I never tried to. I just enjoyed the pretty. :o

It was basically 20 minutes of episode to show us the smoking case from Lana's purse that Lois picked up was a clue. They could have cut the time down for that dramatically by having Lois tell Chloe, hey look what I found.

[Davis Bloome]

Obscura: good episode, but it was a filler, but most episodes in the first season kinda were fillers as it was just about kryptonite freaks mostly. Still good for what it was

Witness: Was also good, but not that good. The action was good and the scene where they threw Clark in flames was cool.

Talisman: VERY good, I liked every episode concerning the Namaan legend. And this one is probably my second favourite next to the Skinwalker. I really liked the romance between Clark and Kyla in that one.

Ageless: Not that good imo. It was a little too weird even for smallville.

Fade: Seeings Lois naked was probably the best about it, other than that, it was good, but again nothing special lol.

Noir: Really cool idea, but as I'm not such a fan of Jimmy it sometimes became annoying as him as this detective wannabe, though Clark was very cool in it as this cop. That was probably its best point.

Artic: As a season finale it was of course very good, though it surely wasn't one of the best finale's of Smallville imo.

Beast: Yeah of course I thought this topped them all. Only Talisman comes actually close I think. It brought Smallville to a darker place that we've never seen before and I liked that. It had a lot of twists and things you wouldn't expect from Chloe and even Davis surprised me in the basement scene with Oliver and Jimmy. This was a scene where I even liked Jimmy in, which is rare lol.

[Supsfan]

Obscura: good episode, but it was a filler, but most episodes in the first season kinda were fillers as it was just about kryptonite freaks mostly. Still good for what it was.

Hard to say alot of the season 1 episodes were filler. While the main plots usually were fillerish(FOTW), they usually did the bulk of there storytelling in the final 10 minutes of the episode(i refer to them as ending scenes). Every episode we would get Clark and Character X having a scene together moving there relationship forward.

[Welling_is_pretty]

Had to vote Beast. Mostly because I didn't care for a lot of the rest in the poll.

Snorted when I saw Ageless was on the list (and 4 people have voted for it? Ah well, to each their own.).

[LuthorKent90]

Talisman.

Accidently voted for the wrong one. xD (no it wasn't ageless:lol:)

[CloisFan17]

BEAST ALL THE WAY!! My new favorite episode of all of SV well for now lol

[smallvillerocks45]

Wow. I finally get to vote for Ageless! LoL... actually, this is a difficult decision. I love "Ageless," but I also really enjoyed "Noir." "Beast" was a very good episode, and "Arctic" was the last time we saw Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor... Maybe these episodes aren't as epic as say, "Rosetta," or as outstanding as "Transference," but they all seem to have something special about them for me - especially the ones I named in my post.

[Mackdaddy]

Beast then Noir

[CloisFan17]

yeah very amazing episodes

[Nimkong]

Beast was the best because the rest suck

[DarkKal]

Honestly I couldn't choose any of those episodes, they're all bad. :lol: