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pen2paper
05-01-2009, 08:43 PM
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Wow I watched this episode, and literally the entire time I was yelling at the tv. Ok so I tend to get a little involved when it comes to this show but seriously this episode was so twisted. <o:p></o:p>
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OK I get that davis is essentially doomsday and he has to get all evil but what made the character interesting (to me anyways) was that he was essentially trying to be a good person and do the rite thing. Now they've turned him into this obsessive psycho. He cares about chloe, but suddenly that's all he cares about. I actually really liked his character, probably because SW is a great actor, he pulls off all the crap his character goes through so realistically for such insane circumstances. And I was hoping they would keep up that character up until he dies.
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I don't know if it's doomsday or davis, is doomsday starting to manifest himself into davis's personality? OKay i was a sucker for the whole davis loves chloe scenario, it kinda sucks that they degraded it into an "obsession" <o:p></o:p>
HE HOLDS STRANDS OF HER HAIR FTW??<o:p></o:p>
srry had to get that out.
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But ye alot of people have dissected Chloe’s actions in Beast and most of them have been that she’s lost her mind and gone evil, essentially betraying clark.<o:p></o:p>
And I have to say that her guilt tripping clark about putting Davis in the phantom zone was pushing it, what else could clark do?
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But I guess if clarks doing it because he doesn’t want to kill davis, making him the beast forever in the phantom zone is like putting him in hell. And what does clark expect to do if davis takes him to the PhZ, kill him there? Isn’t that what he’s avoiding.
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Chloe killed davis in eternal because she didn’t see any other option. But I guess now she see’s one, where she can protect clark and allow davis some shred of humanity<o:p></o:p>
As to the question as to who she’s saving, as much as Chloe wants to convince herself that she’s doing this solely for Clark, she cares about davis and knows that he didn’t deserve this life. But she can’t save everyone.
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And chloe making davis think that she cares about him more than she does edges on his “obsession” with her, he actually believes that she wants to be with him despite him being the “beast”. And his actions in the basement. Seriously, I mean is he holding them because he knows that if chloe doesn’t make it in time he has to kill someone to control the beast? I gotta say though I loved that scene, Aaron Ashmore can act, I’d have to say one of his best performances. Totally believable, and when he asks davis if he honestly believes Chloe could love him, amazing.
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I guess I’m back to davis, I’m trying to understand him in this episode because before it was always him making hard decisions in hard situations, but his decisions were usually understandable. Now he’s just so dependent on Chloe and I guess he said it best, Chloe makes him human, and when he’s trying so hard to deny the reality that he is a monster, chloe is his only chance at humanity. He’s been thrust into this life that he can’t understand and Chloe is only shot at a somewhat normal life, and I guess he can life with that cause he believes chloe wants this too. Can’t really blame him for being that delusional, his life pretty much sucks. Not that it didn’t already suck before. Seriously his character was just doomed from the beginning.
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So when Clark wants to send him to the phantom zone all he sees is that he is gonna be in a place where there is no Chloe, no chance to control the beast and no chance to be human. Ye he’s not too thrilled about that.
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I gotta admit, his obsessive nature in this episode was creepy.<o:p></o:p>
But that first scene was pretty hot. And if things were different davis and chloe wouldn’t be such a creepy couple.
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In really felt bad for clark in this episode, his best friend lies to him and then leaves to essentially “save” him, how much guilt can one person handle? <o:p></o:p>
They need to stop this lana-esque cycle of people trying to save clark, he’s superman LET HIM DO THE SAVING!<o:p></o:p>
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Overall I think the writers took a storyline that had potential and twisted it into something essentially pointless. I liked eternal, and this episode kind of killed it for me. The characters are acting whack. <o:p></o:p>
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I hope injustice and doomsday make up for this. The acting was good, I especially liked clark, I dunno something about him in this episode was touching. The ending scene with oliver when he’s defending chloe, you could see how hard it was for him to think that Chloe was willingly protecting Davis, he has so much faith in her. And to be honest I don’t know if Chloe entirely deserved it in this episode. I’m gonna be sad to see SW go, I love how he takes on Davis’s character, he’s very expressive with his face and body language even when he’s not talking. This season just looks like it’s gonna end badly for everyone.<o:p></o:p>
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coco#1
05-01-2009, 09:18 PM
i gave it a 6.i tape the show.i rate an episode by how much i want to re-watch that episode.Stilleto i watched 5 or 6 times during the week and twice directly after the episode aired. i loved that episode.I have no desire to watch this episode again although i will probably view it again one more time before the next episode.
Karafan1
05-01-2009, 10:19 PM
I loved it! I'm giving it a 9..It would be 10 if the Clark/Davis fight was a little better..
joemamma
05-01-2009, 10:58 PM
Great review Jade.
The only thing I took issue with was this;
Oliver; Kick his ass Clark. Get this thing out of our lives, once and for all.
Clark; You want me to kill him?
No Clark, he NEEDS you to kill him apparently. Didn't you know that Oliver is all for senseless and irrational murder these days? Clark of course voices his opinion, its true Clark. You would be taking a life, we all know how you feel about that. But of course, you would be saving thousands. Thats Olivers motto, a life for safety.
In what way is killing Doomsday senseless and irrational? I mean, the guy has murdered well over fifty people so far. And if that would make Clark a "murderer" then that would mean Superman was a murderer since he killed Doomsday in the comics.
I'm definitely with Oliver on this one.
DAISHI
05-02-2009, 01:31 AM
Never caught my interest. I thought it was a dismal episode, and I've liked just about every episode this season, even some Lana Arc episodes.
Arwenstar
05-02-2009, 02:34 AM
AWESOME EPISODE! Oh, well. Any episode without Lois is a good episode to me.
Chloe's talk with Clark at the end was so heartbreaking; she's doing this for HIM. Yes, she cares about Davis and wants to save him, but she's also terrified about what might happen to Clark. Her dream in the beginning really drove that home--she's scared that Doomsday will kill Clark (as gruesome as her dream was, that's what she is truly frightened of.) At the end, she did not look like she wanted to be there--she was crying and very hurt. She is doing this for Clark, and I love that he's so heartbroken about it.
The right thing isn't always clear and isn't always easy to do, and this episode just emphasizes how Clark has to face the fact that he has to make the decisions. Ollie is right. Even though Clark wants to save everyone, he has to make some tough calls. In this case, he can't save Davis. Basically, Chloe is the driving force for his morality; she is urging him never to give up on someone. Ollie, on the other hand, is the driving force for Clark choosing to kill Davis--killing one in order to save millions. Aah, I love all of this!
Smallville, you are doing it right! Definitely a 10! :D
They can't escape their destinies though. Doomsday is destined to kill Clark. Chloe can't change that. I just hope for another awesome episode like this one! Bring on more Chlark, please!
That song in the end was fantastic! I'm anxious to know who the artist is and what the song is called.
hazel
05-02-2009, 03:16 AM
hi, it's my first post here and English isn't my first language so bear with me.
i only saw the ep. once and still don't have an opinion about it.
however, i read most of the posts in this tread and saw the disagreement about Chloe.
what i thinking is that everybody on the show see Davis as the mask that Doomsday puts on occasionally while Chloe sees Davis as a man with a monster inside that threatening to take over. from her point of view, she is right, if Clark sent Davis to the PZ he will live to regret it. he will feel guilty for letting a monster take over an innocent man. so' i can understand why she doing what she is doing and that she thinks that she saving Clark even if i don't think that Davis is innocent.
e-µ-i
05-02-2009, 03:18 AM
Very good episode, I give it 9/10. No plot holes, very well-thought turn-overs, nice effects, really interesting ending that leaves everything open.
Finally some decent episode I enjoyed...
clois_lover10
05-02-2009, 04:08 AM
10/10
I loved it. By this point I've become desensitized to the lack of Lois this season, and have learned to just enjoy the Clois episodes as they come along (although the mysterious Lois disappearances will certainly not be okay next season). I did not find the Chlavis "corny" as some people have characterized it, because I find Davis' character refreshing, and I really enjoy the natural dynamic between Chloe and Davis. I really hope neither of them ends up dying, but it's near impossible to believe that they can continue moving from one place to another forever.
badraven
05-02-2009, 04:10 AM
hi, it's my first post here and English isn't my first language so bear with me.
i only saw the ep. once and still don't have an opinion about it.
however, i read most of the posts in this tread and saw the disagreement about Chloe.
what i thinking is that everybody on the show see Davis as the mask that Doomsday puts on occasionally while Chloe sees Davis as a man with a monster inside that threatening to take over. from her point of view, she is right, if Clark sent Davis to the PZ he will live to regret it. he will feel guilty for letting a monster take over an innocent man. so' i can understand why she doing what she is doing and that she thinks that she saving Clark even if i don't think that Davis is innocent.
Welcome to the party haz! Post on!
vdodirector
05-02-2009, 04:23 AM
That was one of the worst smallville episodes ever!!! Who is this blonde idiot and what have they done with Chloe? And what is with her explanation as to why Clark couldn't send Doomsday to the Phantom zone?! Seriously, the phantom zone is a prison for super powered bad guys. This is the absolute best option! Why would Clark regret doing that? Don't bad guys go to prison? This option would've kept Clark from killing him, yet saves earth from a superpowered demon. Where is the downside? Ugh. This episode is as bad as when they decided to make Lana a superhero. Will someone please right this ship, please stop the bleeding, it hurts, IT HURTS!!!:confused:
skully
05-02-2009, 05:07 AM
Good epi. Nice advancement of the Chlavis season arc. I liked JH and AA's contribution to the epi.
Excellent performances by AM and SW. Chloe is a little rattled and isn't quite sure what the right thing to do is. She is torn between protecting her BFF and the monster she has befriended. To us it all appears misguided but it is all leading to a mega smackdown in the Season Finale.
Could have done with a little more of the teased Clark muscle in the epi.
8.5 out of 10.
petitemimi
05-02-2009, 05:23 AM
Apparently, writing 101 says that you have to pile up as much conflict as possible on your hero. Too bad the showrunners were never able to upgrade to writing 201 and 301 after 8 years. It's the same story over and over again. Chloe-Lana is playing the "I do it all for you Clark"; and if I had a nickel for each time Oliver is lecturing and/or yelling at someone, I could retire.
This was a dismal episode and I expect even worse for the finale; with the stills that we got.
saltyweeks
05-02-2009, 06:20 AM
hi, it's my first post here and English isn't my first language so bear with me.
i only saw the ep. once and still don't have an opinion about it.
however, i read most of the posts in this tread and saw the disagreement about Chloe.
what i thinking is that everybody on the show see Davis as the mask that Doomsday puts on occasionally while Chloe sees Davis as a man with a monster inside that threatening to take over. from her point of view, she is right, if Clark sent Davis to the PZ he will live to regret it. he will feel guilty for letting a monster take over an innocent man. so' i can understand why she doing what she is doing and that she thinks that she saving Clark even if i don't think that Davis is innocent.
nice first post! :)
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 06:29 AM
I liked it, overall. Allison did a wonderful job acting in this episode like any other, of course. :p
I didn't like that they didn't have a lot of fighting scenes. They should have extended that a bit more. Though it was nice to see Davis lose all his power(evilness) when he caught a glimpse of Chloe in the Fortress.
And I'm growing annoyed of Oliver Trying to make everybody else do his dirty work. Like trying to get Clark to kill Davis. He needs to stop with the killing.
saltyweeks
05-02-2009, 07:04 AM
That was one of the worst smallville episodes ever!!! Who is this blonde idiot and what have they done with Chloe?
Chlo is no idiot. I would have given the writers a lot less credit this year if they hadn't let her character naturally evolve due to everything she's been through, but instead tried to give us "old" Chloe -- heck, if you want to see her as a teenager the DVDs are right there.
Chloe as a woman has been dynamically effected by what she has gone through. I mean, put the list together-- how unrealistic would it be for Chloe to be the same Smallville sweetheart after all THAT? She's come of age in a world (which she has occasionally ended up saving) of super heroes and monsters, and she's been dragged through an emotional roller coaster with her friends including Clark. On the most personal level, I think this season they have finally made it clear that Clark's decision not to pursue anything romantic with Chloe (while chasing after Lana and now being interested in Lois) is a kick to the psyche Chloe has never, and will never, understand or recover from-- since Chloe's been in love with Clark from almost day one and still is.
So much pain (in my review I made clear how much I LOVED Jimmy's scar tissue line-- perfect!) and she's NOT going to make some bad calls? Most people would be dead already.
That said, I also love that we STILL get the Chloe we know a lot of the time-- even though her decisions are magnified by circumstance. One thing I have always liked about Chloe is that she doesn't always make the right call (Ollie talked to Jimmy about his instincts-- Chloe is an amazingly smart girl but her instincts are not the best-- her character would be much more boring if they were). For one thing, she is probably the most impulsive person on Smallville, and that's saying A LOT. However, when she makes a call she is by nature the most decisive person on the show.
And doesn't that make sense? In a world that may call upon you to counter Lex or Lionel Luthor, to save Clark who is himself a savior, or to throw into action the Justice League-- well, there isn't time for introspection. That's one of the reasons the scene with the garbage bags last week was so dead on-- give Lana or Lois that scene and it makes no sense. Sometimes when Chloe stops to think about it, even she realizes she's in over her head.
That's not a thought that naturally occurs to Chloe-- in fact experience has taught her to push on for a solution and not waste the energy justifying herself on more than a superficial level. Notice how Oliver (who always has a decent, but itself superficial, view of people's motives-- his own instincts are good to a point) tries to get to her by calling her one of the bad guys-- that would have really hurt Clark and probably brought Oliver five minutes of silence from him-- but Chloe simply is too busy with too far too much on her shoulders to even stop to let him insult her.
I'll admit Chloe has always been impulsive and decisive, from the first time we saw her in the Pilot, but life has done nothing to slow that impulse down. Really, if Chloe stops to carefully consider everything right now she'll end up crying in an alley and never getting up. But she doesn't have time for that, or believe her world has time for it either. She puts EVERYTHING on her back and still frantically searches for some way to still make it right.
Some people may be surprised to find out that I don't believe Chloe's explanation to Clark at the end. It doesn't make sense based on everything we've seen and we know. However, that doesn't make me suddenly "dislike" Chloe or believe she's just being "stupid". It's perfectly in character-- Chloe is trying to convince herself as much as Clark. She's backtracking, putting an altruistic motive on her actions that are more complicated than that. Sure, part of her motives were to save Clark but part of her motive were clearly not. She just doesn't have the time or energy left to deal with the complexity or honest emotions behind her decisions.
Most of us deal with the results of our mistakes everyday in life, and we go on. How hard must that be for Chloe in a world where her mistakes can alter the course of the universe?
At this point, leaving town with Davis must be as appealing to Chloe as that time travel ring was to Clark. But she can't reset-- she just has to deal. They haven't always been the best decisions, but they have been completely in character. Frankly, Chloe is the one Smallville character that now has a depth and a motivation as complex and realistic (for a fantasy world) as a character on a Joss Whedon show. That adds a lot more to Clark's story than a simple fight with a monster would have done.
She's lost the wheel, true. I still think she's done alright. Most important to me, she's still Chloe.
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 07:07 AM
Agreed. :)
Jaded Wolf
05-02-2009, 07:15 AM
Anyone else ready for this season to be over with? Again another week where I just lost interest and found myself on the internet for the majority of the time. I can't stand Chloe now and Clark is just being stupid. Soon-to-be-Superman my Oklahoman butt!!! I'm not buying it and I wonder about season 9. 3/10
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 07:18 AM
I just hope they don't end the series before Clark learns how to fly...
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Jaderoyale
05-02-2009, 07:32 AM
In what way is killing Doomsday senseless and irrational? I mean, the guy has murdered well over fifty people so far. And if that would make Clark a "murderer" then that would mean Superman was a murderer since he killed Doomsday in the comics.
I'm definitely with Oliver on this one.
I was referring to Olivers murder of Lex. That was sensless and irrational. Though Lex is technically the bad guy; he was 100% human and Oliver did it without even considering any consquence.
Night_Hawk90
05-02-2009, 07:35 AM
Anyone else ready for this season to be over with? Again another week where I just lost interest and found myself on the internet for the majority of the time. I can't stand Chloe now and Clark is just being stupid. Soon-to-be-Superman my Oklahoman butt!!! I'm not buying it and I wonder about season 9. 3/10
I am right with you this season has disappointed me again after starting off fairly well it went back down the toilet. With these last few episodes its getting harder and harder to believe that i am watching the future superman when he keeps making the same dumb decisions over and over again.
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 07:38 AM
I am right with you this season has disappointed me again after starting off fairly well it went back down the toilet. With these last few episodes its getting harder and harder to believe that i am watching the future superman when he keeps making the same dumb decisions over and over again.
Maybe, since he keeps making dumb mistakes over and over, that means that Smallville isn't close to ending yet. :P I mean he needs to grow, right?
Night_Hawk90
05-02-2009, 07:40 AM
Maybe, since he keeps making dumb mistakes over and over, that means that Smallville isn't close to ending yet. :P I mean he needs to grow, right?
if he hasnt grown that much after 8 years i dont know when he ever will, i still like the show but the writing for clark is deplorable.
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 07:43 AM
if he hasnt grown that much after 8 years i dont know when he ever will, i still like the show but the writing for clark is deplorable.
Two of the writers left, right?
Night_Hawk90
05-02-2009, 07:53 AM
Two of the writers left, right?
they havent left yet, their leaving at the end of season 8
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 08:00 AM
they havent left yet, their leaving at the end of season 8
Oh, then I can imagine where the show will start heading.
Darn...
Promise
05-02-2009, 08:12 AM
Pros- Clark, needed more time, but he was still good
Dr. Hamilton
Davis and Clark
GA and Clark
Clark dealing with people changing. Especially the loyal ones.
Cons
Don't care for the Jimmy's journey to redemption. Good acting, but don't care for that story, but seems like its over, good, get back to investigating and taking pictures.
Davis being borderline Hulk. "Don't make me angry".
Chole knowing the secret. Now you see what happens when people know your secret Clark, they interfere. Chole knows too much, and I will understand if she is the one who dies.
Overall, good episode, needed more Clark, but it helped me to forget Staletto.
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Most important to me, she's still Chloe.
Speaking of Chloe, does she even still have her tear powers???? If they dropped that storyline, good because it seems to be forgotton.
Tatiana
05-02-2009, 08:48 AM
I loved it in terms of what they did with Clark as a character, they really showed him being very much in charge of his own persona and making decisions on his own, like sending Doomsday to the phantom zone, Tom did a great job showing his anger, sadness and disappointment when he was searching for Chloe at the Isis foundation, I loved seeing him doing his computer work :) without having to depend on anyone. I liked Oliver's character even though sometimes he seems a bit harsh and a jerk, I think he really admires Clark and wants him to beat Doomsday, and he also helped Jimmy. Davis freaked me out, I loved how Sam has made me love the character but with this episode I hated him, I really saw the monster in him even though he hadn't transformed. He is totally manipulating Chloe, and he seems to full of himself when he wanted to fight CLark at the fortress, btw I love how Clark threw him on the floor when they got there lol that special effect was cool when he took him from the basemenet. I am very disappointed on Chloe though, I think my face was the same Clark had at the fortress, big question mark and a ouch! she thinks she is doing this to protect Clark but she also has feelings for Davis, if it would have been Brainiac, she would have had no problem with Clark getting rid of him either way.
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plus I didn't like her remark about Clark not wanting to get his hands dirty, it would seem she doesn't understand the essence of Superman, Clark won't kill as his own decision, and he shouldn't, or he'd be pretending he is a god
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oh and at this point I think I will also understand if Chloe dies, I love her but she is getting stupid, she should have let Clark do what he had to
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if he hasnt grown that much after 8 years i dont know when he ever will, i still like the show but the writing for clark is deplorable.
I disagree, I think they have shown a good transition for Clark, during this episode he did his own investigation, came up with his own conclusions, didn't fall for the whole paranoid theme Chloe painted for him, and made his own decision about sending Doomsday to the zone, you can't blame him for being shocked with what Chloe was doing, she is his best friend he never expected for her to lie to him so much and take on the monster's side, he tried defending her with Oliver, but he knew deep inside her reasons are not just to save him.
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Anyone else ready for this season to be over with? Again another week where I just lost interest and found myself on the internet for the majority of the time. I can't stand Chloe now and Clark is just being stupid. Soon-to-be-Superman my Oklahoman butt!!! I'm not buying it and I wonder about season 9. 3/10
why is Clark being stupid? Chloe is the one being stupid right now but she will realize soon enough she is over her head and she won't be able to control the situation. I think Clark was awesome in this episode
Autumn
05-02-2009, 09:34 AM
I loved it, although it did have a few bad OOC script moments. I don't think Genevieve Sparling understands the Davis character, but I'm sure everything will make better sense once Souders and Peterson write the characters again. My brief response.
What I loved:
1) Um, the kiss. Best part of the episode. I loved the whole dream section actually. Really great song choice. I wish someone could figure out what the heck it is. It's clear from Chloe's dream that she has feelings for both Clark and Davis. She wants to be with Davis, but she's afraid of what will happen to Clark as well. I loved the whole old movie setup though. Chloe looked like she walked off an old movie scene in the yellow nightgown. Awesome scene. Oh, and I LOVED the rose. Great BatB addition.
2) Dr. Hamilton scenes with Chloe. I liked him and I liked Chloe's interaction off of him. I love that Chloe is looking for a cure. Reminds me of Moonlight and Dark Angel, both of which I adore.
3) Chloe suggesting that her and Davis leave Smallville. I love Davis' reaction. He knows Clark is the most important person in Chloe's life, not Jimmy interestingly enough. Note that Davis is his true self whenever he is around Chloe. No Beast at all.
4) I liked that Oliver wants to help Jimmy with rehab.
5) I liked the fortress scene for the most part. Davis does not want to lose Chloe.
6) Love keeps the monster at bay.
7) Oliver realizing Chloe has feelings for Davis.
8) Chloe and Clark phone scene. Wow. What emotions. Can I just say that Clark needs to admit how he feels?? I'm sorry, but he is in love with her and is afraid that he just lost her for good.
The telling thing about this scene (revealing that Clark IS in love with Chloe) are the parallel scenes (the opening of the episode and the ending of the episode). Both scenes start with the same song playing and then a phone call. In the beginning, it is Davis calling. In the end, it is Chloe calling. If you listen to the lyrics of the song, it seems to be about admitting your feelings, and once you do you will feel peace. There could also be a double meaning of letting go. Chloe and Clark letting go of each other. Clark is not ready to do this. At all. Because he hasn't admitted to himself (or at least to the audience) that he is in love with Chloe. She's the one person he can't lose. That's certainly how the scene was played. I think even Oliver saw it, and told Clark it was time for him to move on. Even my brother who is not a shipper, was like, "yeah, Clark's in love with Chloe."
9) Clark's line: "Chloe would never choose Davis over her friends." What he means is, "Chloe would never choose Davis over me." He's in tears over the thought of Chloe having feelings for Davis and losing her. Chloe marrying Jimmy was never a threat to Clark IMO because he knew Chloe wasn't REALLY in love with Jimmy. This is some strong emotion coming from Clark, more than I have actually seen all season.
10) Davis giving Chloe a red candy heart (to parallel her dream with the red rose). Cute.
11) The line, "Sometimes the monster does get the girl." I hope so. ;)
What I didn't like (not really hated):
1) Jimmy. Drove me crazy in this episode. I hope he gets help from Oliver and goes to rehab. Dark Jimmy needs to end. He is not a tortured soul. And hitting up Oliver for money when they don't even know each other well? Odd. And then stealing from Chloe? He needs help. And then he was egging Davis on. He needed to chill.
2) Oliver calling Davis an "it" and a "thing." And his plan to kill Davis was stupid. Yes, kick his butt. Real thought out.
3) Some of the dialogue was off, particularly with Davis in a few spots. At first, I was confused, but after watching the episode a second time (I've now watched it 4 times), I understood what was happening better, even though some of the lines I didn't like. Davis when he was attacking Oliver and Jimmy was not himself. He was half beast, and when he turns half beast, he is not the full Davis Bloome. His expressions changed. His body language changed. So, SW did an amazing job of pulling this off.
The most noticeable moment is in the fortress when Davis simply says: "Why can't you let me be happy? Why can't my Kryptonian brother let me have that?" It was almost childish the way he said it because the beast is not as intelligent as Davis is. That wasn't fully Davis, although Davis is holding on real strong to Chloe, which is why the beast doesn't fully emerge. What I didn't like about this (obviously Davis getting dumber when he is the beast is stupid), is that most of the audience will probably not pick up on this (even though it is strongly implied throughout the episode - like "I can feel myself changing" and also in the FOS as soon as Chloe enters Davis lost all his powers and he turned back into Davis) and just think Davis is choosing to be this way, when he's not. As I said, Souders and Peterson do a better job with it because they understand the character.
4) Hinting that Davis' feelings could be obsession to appease fanbases, when it is clearly not. Perhaps slightly obsessed when is part beast, but when he is full Davis, that is all love. At least Oliver admitted Davis' feelings for Chloe are real.
5) Jimmy working for Oliver. Okay, that I hated. Go back to the planet. Please.
6) Oliver: "Since when did you become one of the bad guys?" Um, okay hypocrite. When did you??? He likes killing a bit too much lately. And isn't he a murderer? Maybe Chloe should go to jail for being an accomplish after the fact to his murder. Just saying. Bugged me. What Chloe is doing (although a part of it is for Davis), is for the greater good. She's protecting innocent lives.
Anyway, that's it for now. Oh, and I loved the placement of the Bronte love story poster. Very telling as to how Chloe and Davis are supposed to be seen. A love story. They even moved the placing from Eternal so it is dead center during the kiss.
Gave this episode a 10 even though Genevieve Sparling had some weak moments in the script because overall it is one of the most enjoyable episodes ever.
saltyweeks
05-02-2009, 09:38 AM
neither Clark nor Chloe is being "stupid" unless you define the word differently than I do. their actions may not be the wisest, sitting back and looking from all angles, but they are in character and completely understandable given what has happened to each of them.
for instance, take Clark. i mentioned the Madonna-whore complex everybody is pulling on Chloe-- Clark worst of all. he has really fooled himself about Chloe's purity of nature. no, that doesn't make any sense to US. but it sure does to Clark.
Clark has an amazingly gentle nature for a guy who can kick you to Bolivia. he wants to see the good in everyone (hasn't he demonstrated that over and over?). with Chloe it's taken to an extreme.
that's not surprising given that Martha Kent is MIA. remember Clark's reaction when she started going on "dates" with Lionel Luthor? perfectly sensible actions from her point of view, but for Clark it was a not-so-subtle act of betrayal.
now, Chloe is the maternal figure in Clark's life. questionable actions from Lana or Lois wouldn't hit him in the gut like they would coming from Chloe-- hence the denial part of it. but that's not "stupid"-- Clark is just NOT a cynical person (except sometimes about himself) and he obviously looks to Chloe, who he views as non-sexual and reassuringly supportive and nurturing, for validation.
Chloe isn't stupid either-- she realizes this by now. although she would rather occupy an actively romantic position in Clark's life, he has defined her differently (now, if you want to go back and call Clark "stupid" for THAT, I might have to listen). Chloe is not above using the way Clark views her to deceive him (Clark...go to...uh...Alaska) but, again, that's not stupid it's actually very smart, though ethically slippery.
but it's hard to fault Clark for seeing Chloe as he does. he needs that element of purity and reinforcement in life. he sure as heck isn't going to get it from Oliver. Chloe is about all of the town of Smallville Clark has left.
Clark is kind of a mama's boy-- and there's nothing wrong with that...heck SUPERMAN is kind of a mama's boy. makes perfect sense.
besides, if all these characters made the right decisions all the time, why the heck would you watch the show?
NoSupeForYou
05-02-2009, 09:46 AM
Chloe's argument was stupid because Davis is a monster as well. Why does she think Davis deserves any happiness whatsoever? He murdered over 50 people. Jor-el used the PZ as a prison and that's exactly what Davis deserves.
Autumn
05-02-2009, 09:54 AM
Chloe's argument was stupid because Davis is a monster as well. Why does she think Davis deserves any happiness whatsoever? He murdered over 50 people. Jor-el used the PZ as a prison and that's exactly what Davis deserves.
Uh, because Davis is a good guy and does deserve happiness. He was programmed to kill against his free will. Chloe understands that.
saltyweeks
05-02-2009, 09:57 AM
Chloe's argument was stupid because Davis is a monster as well. Why does she think Davis deserves any happiness whatsoever? He murdered over 50 people. Jor-el used the PZ as a prison and that's exactly what Davis deserves.
even Oliver pointed out that Davis is not a monster around Chloe. i see him as a pretty sympathetic character, especially given that his free will has been taken away. Chloe has worked up quite a history now with Davis, and it'll take a lot to get her to write him off. DAVIS is not a monster unless you feel that DOOMSDAY is who he is, and all he is.
Chloe has a personal connection to Davis that I buy completely. besides, she is way too smart to settle for that kind of answer-- at least not until all resources are exhausted.
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Uh, because Davis is a good guy and does deserve happiness. He was programmed to kill against his free will. Chloe understands that.
yep:)
newbaggy
05-02-2009, 10:07 AM
Chlo is no idiot. I would have given the writers a lot less credit this year if they hadn't let her character naturally evolve due to everything she's been through, but instead tried to give us "old" Chloe -- heck, if you want to see her as a teenager the DVDs are right there.
Chloe as a woman has been dynamically effected by what she has gone through. I mean, put the list together-- how unrealistic would it be for Chloe to be the same Smallville sweetheart after all THAT? She's come of age in a world (which she has occasionally ended up saving) of super heroes and monsters, and she's been dragged through an emotional roller coaster with her friends including Clark. On the most personal level, I think this season they have finally made it clear that Clark's decision not to pursue anything romantic with Chloe (while chasing after Lana and now being interested in Lois) is a kick to the psyche Chloe has never, and will never, understand or recover from-- since Chloe's been in love with Clark from almost day one and still is.
So much pain (in my review I made clear how much I LOVED Jimmy's scar tissue line-- perfect!) and she's NOT going to make some bad calls? Most people would be dead already.
That said, I also love that we STILL get the Chloe we know a lot of the time-- even though her decisions are magnified by circumstance. One thing I have always liked about Chloe is that she doesn't always make the right call (Ollie talked to Jimmy about his instincts-- Chloe is an amazingly smart girl but her instincts are not the best-- her character would be much more boring if they were). For one thing, she is probably the most impulsive person on Smallville, and that's saying A LOT. However, when she makes a call she is by nature the most decisive person on the show.
And doesn't that make sense? In a world that may call upon you to counter Lex or Lionel Luthor, to save Clark who is himself a savior, or to throw into action the Justice League-- well, there isn't time for introspection. That's one of the reasons the scene with the garbage bags last week was so dead on-- give Lana or Lois that scene and it makes no sense. Sometimes when Chloe stops to think about it, even she realizes she's in over her head.
That's not a thought that naturally occurs to Chloe-- in fact experience has taught her to push on for a solution and not waste the energy justifying herself on more than a superficial level. Notice how Oliver (who always has a decent, but itself superficial, view of people's motives-- his own instincts are good to a point) tries to get to her by calling her one of the bad guys-- that would have really hurt Clark and probably brought Oliver five minutes of silence from him-- but Chloe simply is too busy with too far too much on her shoulders to even stop to let him insult her.
I'll admit Chloe has always been impulsive and decisive, from the first time we saw her in the Pilot, but life has done nothing to slow that impulse down. Really, if Chloe stops to carefully consider everything right now she'll end up crying in an alley and never getting up. But she doesn't have time for that, or believe her world has time for it either. She puts EVERYTHING on her back and still frantically searches for some way to still make it right.
Some people may be surprised to find out that I don't believe Chloe's explanation to Clark at the end. It doesn't make sense based on everything we've seen and we know. However, that doesn't make me suddenly "dislike" Chloe or believe she's just being "stupid". It's perfectly in character-- Chloe is trying to convince herself as much as Clark. She's backtracking, putting an altruistic motive on her actions that are more complicated than that. Sure, part of her motives were to save Clark but part of her motive were clearly not. She just doesn't have the time or energy left to deal with the complexity or honest emotions behind her decisions.
Most of us deal with the results of our mistakes everyday in life, and we go on. How hard must that be for Chloe in a world where her mistakes can alter the course of the universe?
At this point, leaving town with Davis must be as appealing to Chloe as that time travel ring was to Clark. But she can't reset-- she just has to deal. They haven't always been the best decisions, but they have been completely in character. Frankly, Chloe is the one Smallville character that now has a depth and a motivation as complex and realistic (for a fantasy world) as a character on a Joss Whedon show. That adds a lot more to Clark's story than a simple fight with a monster would have done.
She's lost the wheel, true. I still think she's done alright. Most important to me, she's still Chloe.
The trouble is, the "Chloe is impulsive" argument merely renders her both stupid AND shallow as a character. As far as, "no time for introspection" goes, I think that she has actually had more than enough time to appreciate the conflict between her own feelings and the moral and pragmatic necessities in dealing with the fact that Davis has killed over fifty times - and will kill again, given the opportunity. If she hasn't, then far from being a character with depth and a complex motivation, she is behaving as simply as a pinball, merely reacting to outside influence without taking any control or responsibility for her actions. In fact, the lack of introspection removes the potential interest from the storyline, as there ceases to be any moral conflict - Chloe becomes an essentially selfish, amoral creature, purely seeking to satisfy her own needs and desires, regardless of the effect on others unless she has an emotional attatchment to them (e.g. she may not want Clark to die any more than she wants Davis to be imprisoned as Doomsday, but only because she loves them both - anyone she doesn't know is unimportant, so potentially expendable). Why care about what happens to her or what she does, if that is what she is reduced to?
NoSupeForYou
05-02-2009, 10:22 AM
even Oliver pointed out that Davis is not a monster around Chloe. i see him as a pretty sympathetic character, especially given that his free will has been taken away. Chloe has worked up quite a history now with Davis, and it'll take a lot to get her to write him off. DAVIS is not a monster unless you feel that DOOMSDAY is who he is, and all he is.
Chloe has a personal connection to Davis that I buy completely. besides, she is way too smart to settle for that kind of answer-- at least not until all resources are exhausted.
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yep:)
Davis is nothing more than camouflage, though I understand that others see the two as separate. To me he is Doomy in a Davis Suit and there are over 50 bodies to prove that he is not good. He went to the kill people to keep from transforming solution rather quickly. In real life, if a serial killer is proven to have done what he did through insanity he is not released back out on the street because it wasn't his fault, he is usually locked away in a mental institution for the rest of his life. Chloe has just taken it upon herself to release a monster back among the general population and I can't excuse that.
superjude
05-02-2009, 10:26 AM
WARNING - Extremley long review coming right up.
*sigh*
Thursday night is Smallville tiiiiiime. And tonight we have, Beast. Where apparently Chloe's Beauty and the Beast thing turns into a nightmare. Oh really? Because it wasn't a nightmare to have her harbouring a fugitive as it is? *raises eyebrows*
What i can gather for this episode is that Clark is going to find out that Davis is still alive and that Chloe, oh my best friend Chloe, has been harbouring him. And cooking him meals no doubt. Because thats what you do when you hid a serial killer in your basement obviously. I'm suprised Clark didn't cotton on properly at the end of Stiletto with that massive feast that Chloe was cooking. I didn't actually know Chloe could cook... seeing as they barely show food being consumed on the show.
I haven't watched ANY clips for this episode, or read any spoilers since... i really don't know. Oh actually i saw about 30 seconds of a supposed Clark/Oliver clip and wanted to put my fist through my screen. I'm still not happy with Oliver. What the heck are PS3 trying to do to him this season? *glares*
What do i need, tea, coffee or alcohol?
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Previously on...
Chloe watched on as AJ got dragged down into the basement and Davis went to confession. Tess got smacked around the face by red eyed Davis and Doomsday gave Jimmy one hell of a smack at the wedding. Jimmy was given his meds and told not to take more than 3 a day.. so he took 4. He realised Davis wasn't all he seemed and went to smack him across the head with a crowbar, only to be tazered from behind by his so called wife. Then he left her. Tess started ranting on about the saviour among them. Chloe made everyone happy by becoming Watchtower and doing something worthwile, then she ruined it by deciding to harbour Davis. Everyone has their inner demons.
And here we go. Chloe's getting into bed... with what can only be described as clubbing hair. Fair enough, wanting to feel good about herself when she goes to bed, i feel that. Phone rings. is it Davis? Yes it is. Chloe appears to be wearing some golden night dress... that is extremley long if you ask me. Davis had "another one". Do i want to know? So Chloe agrees to go down and see him. She has no fear of being eaten, because he won't eat her now will he? ((I LIKE THIS SONG)). Nice dressing down Chloe. Chloe picks up what can only be described as a rose petal from off the floor, which leads down the stairs. Theres Davis, looking rather... i don't know. I think hes got sex on his mind. Who knew Doomy was so romantic?
Chloe notices that there never candles or flowers down there, which means Davis left the basement; she sounds like an angry mother. Not supposed to leave the basement. I'm started to feel a little worried. This is going somewhere.... of course it is, Davis speaks that. Chloe is adament that theres nothing else. Davis calls back to how they met in Plastique. I remember that, nice to see the writers have too. Chloe goes to leave and Davis tells her to stay. I want to look away but i can't. And there we go. Chloe pushes Davis against the wall, how longs it been dear? I want to tear my eyes out of their sockets.
Just when it was a little TOO obvious what was going to happen there *shudders* Chloe notices a nice little smear of blood on the floor.
Davis; What did you think was going to happen?
Oh i know, thats why i almost tore my eyes out. Chloe follows the blood just as the music gets creepier.The music builds to a climax as Chloe pulls down the random sheet from the ceiling to reveal... Clarks torso! WHOA. Sweet lord. Is that the most graphic thing we have EVER had in Smallville?! Chloe jerks awake in her bed so it was all a dream. Does that matter? I've just seen Tom Welling without the bottom half of his body. I'm horrified. Though i cannot help but wondering, what did Clark taste like?
Opening credits. I always wonder, could they have actually picked a more perfect song for this show? I don't think they can. To this day, this song remains in my top 5 most played songs on itunes. You may think its sad, i think its magnificent. Considering everytime i listen to it i want to throw my arms out and sing like a mad woman. EVERY. TIME. *sigh* Oh look.... Justin Hartley with no top on. I wonder if he'll be fully clothed this episode.
Let us now move the opening scene, where Chloe is making coffee in the Talon. Is that place still open to the public? I can't remember the last time i saw a customer in there. She nearly drops her coffee when her phone rings and its Davis. She ignores the call, oh Chloe, its a bit late for that now isn't it? Clark appears behind her and asks her if shes okay. Course she is Clark. She's harbouring an ultimate destroyer in the basement, shes absolutely peachy. Chloe didn't get her full 7 hours of sleep, niether do i love.
Tess has named Davis the serial killer. That took a few episodes didn't it, what changed her mind in Offscreenville hmmmm? Chloe says headlines can't hurt Davis now that he's dead and Clark drops a bombshell. He thinks Davis is still alive. Chloe looks like he's kicked her in the stomach but mentions that they watched him die and that Oliver buried the body. NICE OLIVER. They found one of Brunos thugs in a dumpster... oh Chloe, you dumped him there *sigh* Chloe tries her best to throw Clark off the trail, stating that there could be a "copy cat killer".
Clark; Chloe, he's come back from the dead before
That's right Clark, you stick to your guns. Chloe lies, yet again and launches into a nice little talk about Davis. Claiming the only way hes alive is through fear in Clarks mind. I've just spat my coffee out. Purely thanks to this statement;
Chloe; Let him go
YOU LET HIM GO CHLOE. Honestly, he's in your basement. Your the one keeping him alive there. Jesus woman, of all the things to say you have to say that?!
Cheesey music and already i know we're going to the Ace of Clubs. Who is there? Non other than that Lex killing, Kryptonite ring stealer; Oliver Queen. Yes i'm still angry with him. Now, if Luthorcorp has merged with Queen Industries, surely they should change the name? Lutheencorp? Hahah, sorry. Oh look... Jimmy. Man. Oh Jimmy. He looks so, so terrible. He wants 600 bucks... He got let go from the Ace of Clubs. *sigh*
Oliver; That's why i'm pretty sure its not your car that needs the fix buddy
And Oliver knows. Good. He's been round him what, a minute and he can tell already? This please me. Jimmy gets with the paranoia and thinks Oliver thinks he's lying. Well Jimmy, you are. Apparently Oliver knows a place he can go to... rehab. Aw, he'll pay for the treatment. Thats sweet, i think i'm warming to Oliver again. Jimmys all with the denial and walks off, but Oliver, oh Oliver, says that if Jimmy needs someone to talk to, a friend, then hes that guy. Awwwww.
Oliver; But i'm not going to give you any money for drugs
RIGHT ON OLIVER. Don't feed his habit. Jimmy falters for a second before stating that he thought they could be friends, but if Oliver doesn't trust him then obviously not. He walks off, obviously to find some money for drugs and leaves Oliver standing there looking rather concerned. Really good scene from Justin and Aaron there.
Daytime, open street. Chloe in a car with... who is that? Is that Dr.Hamilton!? She's told him that she's got Davis in her basement. She says that Oliver can't be trusted and reveals that he killed Lex. Chloes on a bad path right now.... she wants a cure? Chloe, there is no cure. Hamilton wants Davis in person, but Chloe says thats not going to happen. Why not? He'll be fine as long as you're around him, you should know that by now? Hamilton says he'll run tests from the saliva, Chloe gets out the car and stands on the roadside when Davis magically pops up behind her. Looking rather reminscent of Jimmy. Chloe wants to know why Davis is out of the house, he says because nothing works.
Davis; I tried holding strands of your hair
Oh sweet heavens. So as well as being a killing machine and a mass murderer, Davis now steals hair from Chloes hairbrush and SNIFFS it? I can just see him looking through her room for hair to sniff. Davis says he can't be away from Chloe now and she should realise; she has made this worse. Being around him, making him become used to her being there has made the whole thing worse. I just want to shake her and tell her to wake the hell up and get away from him. But i can't because we're taken to the Talon.
Chloe shows Davis the Daily Planet article. Cornfield Killer. Why did that make me laugh? Davis of course becomes all sad and emo and blames himself, wondering what will happen if the cops find Chloe. Her reply? They leave. Yes Davis you can't ask her to run away with you, but sadly you're not asking, she is. *stares at Chloe in anger* Chloe, what are you doing? Davis says she can't say goodbye to anyone, not even Clark. Chloe seems to falter for a second at this 'unexpected' comment from Davis. He asks if hes the most important person in her life.
Chloe; Davis. I would do anything for you.
*resists urge to reach into TV and grab Chloe*. WHOS. SIDE. ARE. YOU. ON. Davis on the other hand looks like Christmas has come early. Chloe exhales in... relief? I dunno whether she expected him to go with it. Hmmm, dangerous path Chloe. Dangerous. This music freaks me out.
Back to Lutheencorp and what is Oliver looking at? Here pops Clark. Davis' body isn't there anymore.
Oliver; Your vision must be getting blurry.
Yes, he needs glasses doesn't he Oliver? Why did Oliver bury the body? This freaks me out. Something... clawed its way out. The music gets a little tenser as Clark and Oliver come to terms with Olivers revelation. Clark wants Oliver to get Chloe away. Clarks going to the FOS, but of course, Oliver knows how Clark can, "conquer the beast".
Oliver; Kick his ass Clark. Get this thing out of our lives, once and for all.
Clark; You want me to kill him?
No Clark, he NEEDS you to kill him apparently. Didn't you know that Oliver is all for senseless and irrational murder these days? Clark of course voices his opinion, its true Clark. You would be taking a life, we all know how you feel about that. But of course, you would be saving thousands. Thats Olivers motto, a life for safety.
Clark; Doomsday is my problem and i will handle it...
And he speeds off, leaving Oliver standing in the centre of the room alone. Looking rather angry. There there.
Isis? Yes, Isis. Chloes down to her last card. Okay... so she's playing Davis then? Chloe, you are confusing me immensley. She's talking to Hamilton... i'm going to call him Emil. Emil states that he tried to destroy a cell and it only got stronger. Yes, like Doomsday does. Chloe suggests bringing Davis to him but he says no. Can't say i blame you. She states that something is keepig him from transforming.
Emil Hamilton; Sometimes, dramatic changes to the body are caused by intense emotions. Love. Hate. Obssession?
Chloe has an epiphany and realises that Davis is one of those three with her. She then decides to threaten Emil, lovely Chloe. He's right now. Its all on her now, because she has this "power". Whoosh of wind and there appears Clark. The blue blue blur. Again Chloe lies to him. Clark says that Davis is alive and he needs to find him, Chloe again looks like someones kicked her in the stomach. Clark then does something that makes him just, wonderful. He found the Brainiac crystal at the FOS and is going to send Davis to the PZ. Yes!
Chloe looks mildly horrified and says Clark can't send him there. Yes he can, leave him. He's doing the right thing here. Chloe backtracks and says shes talking about Clark, worried that the portal will suck him in. I find this hard to believe. I can barely begin to explain the contradictions Chloe is putting herself through in this episode.
Clark is willing to take the risk of being pulled into the PZ to get rid of Davis. Yes Clark... Hang on. Chloe then gives Clark a false lead and wishes him "luck". *glares* How dare you. Clark nods at her in the most Supermanly way possible and speeds off.
Talon, again. In walks Oliver who hears some commotion upstairs. He walks up to find Jimmy stealing money from Chloe. Oh Jimmy. Its just a loan apparently. Damn i feel really sorry for him and then... WHOA. Oliver just got lobbed from behind by Davis. Jimmy sees Davis and looks utterly horrified, where Davis then proceeds to whack Jimmy across the head as well.
Oliver wakes, chained to a pillar in the basement, with Jimmy opposite him. Jimmy wakes up, hes fine Oliver. Oliver wants to know who did this to them.
Jimmy; Not to sound like a broken record, but it was Davis Bloome.
Heheh, that made me laugh, i don't know why exactly. Probably because of the whole jealousy ex husband thing that Oliver may think that Jimmy has going on. Olivers face is priceless, because he knows Davis is Doomsday. He looks like hes about to explode. They're in the basement and Oliver wonders what he's done with Chloe. Davis steps out of the shadows and says that he'd never hurt Chloe. Jimmy looks like he wants to launch and smack Davis. He's disbelieving that Chloe would save Davis, ah Jimmy, where have you been? Davis gets a little creepy and says Jimmy doesn't want to upset him right now. Oliver calls him Bridezilla and then it dawns on Jimmy that Davis is the beast. Now Jimmy knows. Davis then looks at him in the CREEPIEST way ever and his phone rings. Who is it? Well Chloe of course. When he says her name and says that he can feel himself chanding, Jimmy looks horrified and Oliver calls out for her to stay away. Davis says some 'guys' broke into her apartment. Chloe wants to know why he left the basement. Because he thought you were in danger of course. Chloe tells him to let them go and he says as soon as they're out of Smallville.
Jimmy looks angry and.... oh my. He's literally "egging" Davis on to turn into Doomsday. Jesus christ Jimmy. He doesn't even look remotely scared. In fact, he looks rather... well attractive. *blinks twice* Oliver tells Jimmy to chill out and he shouts no, standing himself up and blaming Davis for everything that has happened to him. Oliver tries to calm down Davis telling him that Chloes on her way home soon.
Davis; The only way i can control myself is if i kill one of you
Gah. This scene is so intense its unbelieveable. Oliver looks at Davis in utter.. is that understanding? I sure as hell hope it isn't.
Jimmy; Then kill me
What? No! Jimmy are you insane?! He will kill you. Oliver tells Jimmy its enough, but Jimmy carries on. Gosh... Davis tells him to stop. Can you hear the growling? Jimmy hits it below the belt and says Chloe could never love him. And then Davis launches himself at Jimmy. Oh my god. I can't look. No. I want to look. Jimmy doesn't even look remotely scared. Davis grabs Jimmys head and places his thumbs over his eyes. OH HE CANNOT DO THAT.
Oliver is desperately shouting his name and i want to as well. Davis' eyes glow red and hes almost there when;
Oliver; Chloes never going to forgive you for that
And Davis stops. But of course. Davis says Olivers right, that Jimmy means too much to Chloe. Jimmy simply laughs at him and Davis smacks him one across the face and turns round to Oliver.
Davis; It has to be you
*freaks out*
Davis psyches himself up before saying sorry and placing his arm around Olivers neck, ready to... snap his head off? I don't know. But how slow does Chloe drive?
Clark appears in the Talon, obviously back from his false lead and calls for Chloe. There is silence, only silence. He uses his superhearing and hears Oliver in the basement. And what does he do? He superspeeds himself down there, grabbing Davis and bashing him into something asking where Chloe is. Davis looks at him like a crazy sweaty stalker and says;
Davis; What are you going to do to me Clark?
And what does he do?! *waves arms around madly*
He grabs Davis, turns him round with a look of determination on his face, all in slow motion. AND SUPER SPEEDS THEM OUT OF THERE. Leaving Oliver looking on in amazement *claps madly* I LOVED that scene.
Main Talon and Chloe arrives after about 7 hours of driving. Jimmys pulled out of there on a stretcher. Theres Emil. Chloe says shes sorry to Jimmy, who opens his eyes and tells her to stay away from Davis. Oliver walks up behind Chloe and wants to know what the hell shes playing at. Chloe takes a leaf out of the old Clarks book and blames herself. Oliver looks at her in disgust.
Oliver; When'd you become one of the bad guys, huh?
Oh Oliver, i'd love to know that as well. Chloe says Davis needs her and goes to walk away, yet Oliver sidesteps her. Chloe tries to defend herself while Oliver basically says everything the majority of the fans (who don't agree with her harbouring Davis) have been saying since Eternal. Chloe says she had everything under control. Oliver disagrees.
Oliver; Speaking as Davis' next victim, i can tell you, your plan was seriously flawed
Yes Oliver. Oliver wants to know how she thought it was all going to end? So do i. Happily ever after? Not a shot. Oliver says she can't fix this and says Clark will take it from here. Chloe wants to know where Clark is.
Oliver; Well, he took Davis.... He's finally going to finish this,
Am i the only one who saw how... well how aroused, shall i say, Oliver seemed when he said that? Its like Clark has finally subcombed to exactly what he wanted. Chloe looks horrified, shes having an internal battle with herself.
FORTRESS. In speeds Clark and just throws Davis to the floor. Davis crowls and wishes Clark luck if he wants a throw down with him. My head is screaming FORESHADOWING right now. Clark didn't come looking for a fight, the fortress can help Davis. LIES! And i like it. Davis seems amazed that the fortress is all thats left. Davis doesn't want to go to a world without Chloe. The thought makes him angry. As it will. Clark tries to reason with Davis for Chloes actions. Oh Clark, you can't. Its too late to try and save what Chloe's done. Davis says that Chloe makes him human and Clark has NO expression what so ever. He goes and grabs the Brainiac crystal. YES CLARK. You grab it. Go on. He wants to know what happens when Chloe doesn't make Davis feel human. Davis says it won't happen.
Clark; I'm sorry Davis i was wrong, we're not brothers
Clark walks over to part of the fortress ready to put that crystal in. And Davis freaks out, superspeeding towards Clark (is that the first time hes done that?) and throwing him into a boulder. And Clark... well he just gets STRAIGHT BACK UP. Looking so like Superman i cannot contain my happiness. Clark says he doesn't want to hurt him, Davis says he can't. He walks straight up to Clark and Clark punches him without hesitation. Oh this my friends, this is a TASTER. Clark puts the crystal in and opens the PZ portal.
Davis; If i go... I'm taking you with me
Davis walks up to Clark, ready to take him in there with him. Just as hes about to grab his head he falters... the look on Clarks face is priceless. Davis falls to the floor and Clark turns round to see Chloe, holding the octagonal disc. She says she can't let him do this. ITS NOT YOUR CHOICE CHLOE. How dare she make him feel guilty about this. He made the RIGHT choice. Oh i'm getting angry now. How dare she. Of all the people to say that to him.. and hes just going to let her go!? Clark what the hell! Oh so thats how the key works...
Olivers office. In strides Jimmy, wanting to know if they have a lead on the beast. Oliver comments that maybe the beast Jimmy needs to fight is in his heart. Jimmy goes off on one and Oliver says he didn't call him for a lecture. He hands him a check... for his 'car'. Jimmy says no, he doesn't need Olivers handout. Oliver says its not a handout, its a paycheck. He's offering him a job it seems... okay i'm all for that, i'll Jimmy working for Oliver over the Ace of Clubs anyday, but i'd rather he was at the Daily Planet. Jimmys all with the sarcasm this episode. Oliver is praising Jimmy and this i like, he doesn't get enough of that. Oliver says exactly why Jimmy is a hero. Jimmy thinks theres a catch, but theres not. Oliver holds his hand out with the check... and Jimmy takes the opposite one. This scene was good. I'm hoping this means Jimmys kicked those drugs.
Isis. Clark looking for Chloe it seems. In walks Oliver. Clark looks well angry. And Olivers started with the guilt trip. Shut up Oliver.
"Oliver; Either that, or she just can't resist tall, dark and Doomsday,"
Oh that was a good one.
Clark is in complete denial at the moment and i understand this. This isn't the Chloe he knows, cept Oliver states that people change and Clark should to, saying he should have killed Davis when he had the chance. He walks off, giving Clark a hero ultimatum, whereas Clark looks like if he turned round he would literally rip Olivers head off. Oliver walks off leaving Clark, while the most depressing song in the world plays.
Clark looks at a convinently placed old photo of him and Chloe and i miss Smallville High. Let the Chlark talk start *sigh*
Clarks phone rings and its Chloe, phoning to say shes 'okay'. Her and Davis are gone but Clark says shes not safe, though she knows what shes doing apparently. Chloe says she does it all for him. Clark says she has feelings for Davis and is protecting him, Chloe disagrees and says shes protecting him.
Chloe; Clark, you're not here to save one person, you're here to save all of us
Finally. I agree with something that shes said this episide. Chloe says shes doing this to save Clark and i must admit, i'm getting emotional. Chloe puts the phone down on Clark after stating that saving the greater good is never a sacrifice. Clark says her name again and... smashes one of the cabinets! That was so attractive.
Davis comes out of the gas station and gives Chloe a chocolate heart and i want to be sick. They get into the car, and drive off...
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Right. Lets get this review cooking properly.
Firstly, characterwise. Very, VERY good this episode.
Clark, i can say i have never been so proud of him. He took it upon himself to decide what to do and was adament that what he was doing was the right thing. And it was. He wasn't killing Davis, he was sending him to the PZ. The way i see it, Davis would have transformed intp Doomsday in the PZ because there was no Chloe. Maybe Chloe was right in saying Clark would be condeming him to a life as that monster; maybe he that was wrong. But for Clark, he wasn't KILLING ANYONE. He was making the choice he thought was right and it really was.
Onto Chloe; To have her tell him that his choice was wrong was disgusting. Who is she to decide what he can and can't do with a monster? She's been hiding Davis from Clark, technically making him worse and more powerful the longer hes with her. The longer the beast is contained, the stronger it will be when it comes out and she should know that. Her actions in the episode were so confusing i was getting whiplash. It's hard to decide whether she was doing it because she cared for Davis, or for Clark. But the end scene, clarified that. It was all for Clark. She wants to save him for once, which everyone does i guess.
Davis, well, theres nothing much i can say about him. I think this episode is the last time we'll have a full episode of Davis in it, so i was trying to bask in it. Davis is constantly torn between right and wrong, but his obssession with Chloe does freak me out. I'm still undecided as to whether she feels the same. I think she does have feelings for him, but not THAT strong (she wouldn't have dreamt about him other wise), he does need to realise that while hes Davis and Doomsday, she won't feel for him the way he wants her to.
Jimmy. Oh, magnificent Jimmy. Finally. The writers are giving him SOMETHING GOOD. They're setting up his friendship with Oliver nicely and getting him off the drugs and i could NOT be happier about that if i tried. The way he just, took on Davis in the basement was amazing. He had absolutely no fear at all, which amazed me, considering he knows how Davis can kill him.
Oliver. Okay, so... i like him again. But not as much as i did before. I like that he's taken Jimmy under his wing and the talk he gave to Chloe was bloody great, someone needed to tell her that and he was the best person for it. HOWEVER, i still can't get on Olivers "its okay to kill if you save others" whole tirade hes got going on. Yes, i get hes a vigilante and technically Smallvilles answer to Batman. But does Batman ever kill? Or tell Clark to kill? *raises eyebrows* His last scene with Clark made me so angry i wanted to kick something. Oh and his top was on all episode. Thats the 2nd ever episode hes been fully clothed. EVER. Disappointed.
Acting wise. Again, another FANTASTIC turnout from our cast. They really don't get enough credit for how well they act. The chemistry between all the actors is phenominal. Tom Welling did great with all the scenes he had, ESPECIALLY the last scene between himself and Allison. They both did great in that scene.
Aaron Ashmore... well. This really is his season isn't it? First we get him knocking the ball right out of the park in Turbulence and now we get this. He was absolutely amazing in this episode and i want the writers to give him more chance to shine.
Sam is great as Davis, he really is. I cannot complain, he shows Davis pain truely and theres nothing better than that. And as much as i'm angry at Oliver, i cannot deny that Justin is not going a great job because he is. *raises hat to cast*
Best scene? I am torn. I really am. Between Davis/Oliver/Jimmy basement scene when Clark just burst in there and took charge. Or the FOS scene between Clark and Davis. Both scenes were absolutely amazing in my eyes. The FOS was giving us a little taster of whats to come in the finale and if its 10x better than that i will explode with joy, i really will. The basement scene, well that was just as TENSE as anything. I was amazed by how i wanted to look away but couldn't.
The directing; Mike Rohl. He seems to excel in the darker episodes, with his other good episode this season being Prey (and Bloodline, but that wasn't as dark as Prey and Beast). He directed the episode well and that to me is what made it so good. The scenes worked in the right way. In fact, the end scene between Oliver and Clark were there was no music, was fantastic. Very tense. Just the way i like them. Not to mention the song chosen for the opening scene and the end scene, was spot on.
The worst parts of the episode? For me, was Chloe coming to the FOS. Okay so yes, we're expecting this big battle between Clark and Doomsday, its inevitible, we know that. But to have Chloe interupt it was just dumb. She made Clark out to be in the wrong when he WASN'T. After seasons of people moaning at him, he finally took charge and did what HE KNEW WAS RIGHT. And at what cost? For Chloe, his so called best friend, to pop in and tell him he was wrong. *mutters under breath*
-Let me jus clarify something i realised; i don't know whether the writers have done this on purpose but het - i've said in this review that technically Chloe is making Davis stronger and why? Well. Her heart is laced with Kryptonite, that was mentioned in S7's Cure. Davis tried to kill himself with Kryptonite and it only made him stronger... so i'm just guessing, that Chloe really is making him stronger right now, considering the kryptonite is still in her heart -
If Clark had sent Davis to the PZ he would have found a way out for heavens sake, hes Doomsday, Keeping him in the real world is only making things worse for everyone. The choices made in this episode are going to shape those of the next episode and the finale. In a way i cannot wait, but at the same time i'm worried. Everything and the characters have become unpredictable and i have no idea what to make of where this is all going.
I had low expectations when watching this episode and though Chloe barging into the FOS scene irked me, i'm giving it 8.5/10. So interpret that as an 8.
Next week; Injustice. Which i won't get to watch till Sunday because i'll be stumbling round my University leavers ball drunk. Oh happy days.
I was going to write a long review but then I read yours and knew that pretty much everything I was thinking was something that you said. So I pretty much agree with you. I also gave the show an 8 ,but was there somewhere in between an 8 and a 9. I do not like to give episodes that do not have much Clark screentime in them a very high rating, but those 12 minutes of his were exceptional. I am really concerned about everything that Chloe has been doing and all the lying that she did with Clark. The FOS and Chloe barging in and telling Clark he was wrong really irked me, too.
Jimmy was awesome and I enjoyed most of the Jimmy/ Oliver scenes. Tom Welling was, as usual, quite splendid in the few minutes he was there.
I really thoroughly enjoyed the show and really am anxious to see the Tom Welling directed "Injustice" and am really geared up for the Season finale. Since I enjoyed the one episode that worried me the most, I am certain to love the ones remaining.
So, SPOT ON with your review.
Autumn
05-02-2009, 10:41 AM
even Oliver pointed out that Davis is not a monster around Chloe. i see him as a pretty sympathetic character, especially given that his free will has been taken away. Chloe has worked up quite a history now with Davis, and it'll take a lot to get her to write him off. DAVIS is not a monster unless you feel that DOOMSDAY is who he is, and all he is.
Chloe has a personal connection to Davis that I buy completely. besides, she is way too smart to settle for that kind of answer-- at least not until all resources are exhausted
Completely agree!! ;)
xrayvision
05-02-2009, 10:50 AM
Great amount of action, no plot holes, Jimmy's story line tied in, Clark being faced with a difficult decision to make, it's all worth watching.
Action? I was waiting the entire episode for the action and never got it. All I saw was a few shoves here & there followed by a gigantic copout. Also, there was a plothole, or at least something that has yet to be explained. Why did Chloe's presence not stop Davis from transforming in Infamous but has stopped him from transforming since Eternal? There is a thread I posted about this where there is speculation that maybe Chloe's marital status has something to do with this, but I don't think Doomsday cares about marital status.
This episode had too little of Clark in it. Also, I was not happy again with all these characters who don't know s--t about Kryptonian things like the Phantom Zone or Doomsday for that matter make judgements and throw their idiotic opinions in Clark's face without him vocally telling them how stupid & wrong they are. Oliver did this by telling him to kill DD, when Clark knows that DD can't be killed. Clark should have pointed this out & made Ollie look like the jackass he is. He should have also shown how stupid Chloe is about what she's doing and how Davis has gone from someone who was able to keep the beast inside to someone who has to kill to keep it in, with the next step being someone who can't keep the beast locked up anymore. He should have told her how wrong her judgement is and how she has no business in his affairs. It was a joke how they have these characters who try to make Clark look like a jerk when they in fact are the jerks and Clark says nothing to show them how wrong they are. The same thing happened with Tess in Eternal.
I give this episode a 3/10.
SGuthrie27
05-02-2009, 11:19 AM
Hello, and welcome to the second edition of SGuthrie’s Smallville episode reviews, brought to you by Yankee Candle Company and careerbuilder.com, where they really do accept resumes of mediocre photographers/cheap bartenders.
Flashing back to key moments from the last half of the season or so, we’ve got Chloe freaking out as A.J. is yanked into the basement to be dismembered by Doomsday, Tess getting backhanded into another piece of Lex Luthor’s spindly, collapsible wooden furniture, Chloe locking herself in the basement with a serial killer (EEK!) and loads of other random stuff that went by too fast for me to take notes on it all. Who cares anyway? It’s the new episode that we really care about!
Chloe fluffs her pillow as she gets ready for a hopefully peaceful night’s sleep two floors above the psycho who hatched from a Kryptonian Cadbury cream egg (as shown in “Eternal-ly Full of Plot Holes”). Her phone rings, and Davis whines to her that he had a bad dream. What are you, dude, five? She sighs that she’ll come right down, after we get a shot of her full-length silky yellow nightgown that looks more like something you’d wear to a college formal or what Megan Joy Corkrey would’ve put on during Big Band week on "American Idol," had she survived that long, ha! One quick robe-change later, and Chloe tentatively creeps down the stairs, picking up a conveniently placed rose petal on the floor. Oh, Chloe... the last time you followed one of these things, a heat-sucking creep tried turning you into a Chloesicle. Do you think this will turn out better this time?
But alas, she continues to plod down to the basement, where Davis is looking all smug and certainly not like he just woke up from a panic-inducing dream, as he’s surrounded by what appears to be the entire contents of a Pier 1 or Yankee Candle factory. Chloe picks up on the fact that the Talon is loaded with neither flowers nor candles, and he makes cheesy little excuses about never doing it again, which is what every ornery teenager says right before sneaking out for another crazy joyride with their friends. Please let this be a dream.
He tries to make the mood more romantic by referencing their first meeting amidst choking crazy pyro-girls and bus debris (yeah, that’s love at first sight right there), and she tries to brush off her aid as friendship, but he’s not going to have any of it. After a few more throwaway lines and lots of eye contact, they start making out like they’ve never kissed in their lives, banging into movie posters and causing a general ruckus. PLEASE let this be a dream!
Before things can get much more uncomfortable, Chloe notices some long red smears on the floor that probably aren’t an attempt on Davis’ part at experimenting with new paint colors or floor staining methods he learned while watching HGTV in his many hours cooped up in the Talon. Following the trail, my stomach does a few little flip-flops as she heads for a darkened corner of the basement and slowly raises her hand to lift a plastic flap hanging from the ceiling... Let it be a DREEEEEEAM!
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Clark’s bloody torso, with a head with very dead eyes but no limbs, and loads of bloody blood bloodiness that makes this scene feel like it belongs in a “Saw” movie and not my Smallvilly goodness! I’m glad I had the presence of mind to cover up half the screen with my hand when I knew something horrid had to be coming, but still, that was pretty gag-worthy right there.
Aaaaaand, Chloe wakes up. Whew! It was a dream. A really... really... nasty dream. Chloe’s suitably freaked out. Need a commercial break, dear? Hey, at least you looked good in that nightgown.
SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEE... from gratuitous gore and character assassination!
Chloe’s ignoring Davis’ phone calls and fixing herself something that looks remotely like a hot beverage that Clark refers to as “cappuccino” when he arrives to comment on her apparent lack of sleep and the latest headline of The Daily Planet, in which Tess has labeled Davis as Metropolis’ “Cornfield Killer.” But he didn’t kill any cornfields, Clark! Our intrepid reporter thinks there’s a chance that Davis is still alive, but Chloe is all nervous smiles and denials, talking about how “I love ghost stories as much as the next girl,” but claiming that it’s probably just someone following in Davis’ bony, bloody footsteps.
Clark keeps on bringing up evidence, such as AJ’s body, which was found in red and blue trash bags (at the Smallville dump, I wonder, or back in the Talon’s dumpster?), and the fact that Davis has returned from the grave on previous occasions. Chloe keeps on bluffing about paranoia, monsters under beds, and that the only thing keeping Davis alive is fear. “Let him go.” Go where? Back upstairs so we can get the season finale’s battle royale started? No, Smallville doesn’t have the budget for that, at least not this season.
Moving right along... repetitive drumbeats and silvery lighting lets us know that Oliver’s newest favorite place to conduct business meetings is Metropolis’ apparently only night club (whatever happened to “Atlantis” from “Exile,” anyway?). He’s chatting it up with these two dudes about going green, 10-foot wide holes in the ground, and other stuff I couldn’t possibly care about, when something that remotely passes for Jimmy Olsen walks in and asks for a moment of Oliver’s time, claiming that it’s important.
Ollie graciously let’s him have his say, which basically amounts to him hitting him up for drug money under the pretext that it’s for his car -- “I need 600 bucks, stat!” What are you, a wannabe surgeon, now? Jimmy’s got purple bags under his eyes, and his face is white and pasty. I don’t like this new Jimmy, but Oliver’s quick to recognize his true intentions, pointing out that it’s not “your car that needs a fix, buddy,” and offering to take him to a rehab place. “You gonna drive me there, too? ‘Cause my car doesn’t work,” Jimmy whines, before bumping shoulders with Oliver and trying to stalk away. Shut up, Jimmy. Oliver offers the white flag of friendship, but all Jimmy wants is more of his little yellow pills, and leaves Ollie to continue discussing his eco-friendly plans for Luthorcorp.
“You’ve been caring for Davis Bloome in your basement?” this guy that looks a little bit like a geeky, nerdy Sayid Jarrah-Lite questions Chloe, who totally looks gorgeous as she sits beside him in his car. She admits that she hasn’t told anyone other than this mysterious dude who for some reason I can’t remember from “Bulletproof” but turns out to be Dr. Emil Hamilton, of Superman mythos and S.T.A.R. Labs fame! Cool! Anyway, the guy wants to know why Chloe hasn’t pulled in Oliver to tackle this situation, as he “created our organization” (which shall not be named) for just such contingencies, but Chloe drops a mega-warhead bombshell, revealing what she knows about Ollie’s hand in Lex Luthor’s death. Wow, I didn’t see that coming... She thinks the stakes are too high to include someone who can’t think clearly, but at this point in the episode, as much as I like Chloe, I’m thinking she may need to include herself in that category. Dr. Hammy wants Davis himself to study, but Chloe’s like, “Nuh-uh,” so he agrees to study the Doomsday spit on the Water Bottle of Doom, before asking pointedly if this is something Chloe wants to take on alone. She says she has it covered, and departs, thanking our bespectacled doctor on her way stumbling into...
Davis! Ohhh, he doesn’t look so good. Been popping some of Jimmy’s pills too, big guy? He’s all suspicion and growly talk, wanting to know who Chloe was talking too, but she’s too busy acting as the Talon den mother and wanting him to get back in the basement. Still, she asks what’s wrong, and he opens up in this stalkerly tirade about how he tried looking at photos, and stroking strands OF HER HAIR, but nothing helps?! CHLOE! Run! Run for your life and sanity in the opposite direction! But Davis, have you tried brushing your teeth with Chloe’s toothbrush? Maybe sniffing her curtains and bed sheets like they’ve been sprayed with that Febreeze stuff that always makes people look crazy on commercials? No? Okay, anyway, his conclusion is this: “I can’t be away from you.” How about a cardboard cutout, then? Autographed cast photo?
A few minutes later, back in the much sunnier basement (does it have windows to the outside or something?), Chloe reads Davis the headline of the article that pegs him as the killer like he’s still Hooked on Phonics. Again, he’s killing PEOPLE, not CORNFIELDS! Somebody could definitely sue the Planet for libel here. Davis acts like Clark for the briefest of moments, worrying that he’s put Chloe in the cops’ crosshairs, but she’s got a plan -- if they come close to being caught, they’ll leave -- load up the car and never look back. Yes, Chloe, and then drive that car over a thousand foot-high cliff and call Clark to rescue you, leaving Davis to another doom, okay? “I can’t ask you to run away with me,” Davis still tries to be remotely nice, but Chloe’s the one asking, though I can’t for the life of me figure out why at this point. He reminds her that she wouldn’t be able to say goodbye to anyone, not even Clark. “Can you honestly say that I am the most important person in your life?” Chloe stands up and walks mechanically beside him like they’re still doing blocking for this scene and utters, “Davis -- I would do anything for you.” But I’m not dumping any more dismembered bodies in the trash. Okay, so she didn’t add that last part, but Doomy’s ready to leave now. Chloe’s still eerily okay with this permanent vacation early, and just has to “dead-end some paper trails” and do other things that are obviously excuses for her trying something else to pull herself back out of this mess, and Davis calls back to her. “Chloe, I don’t know where I’d be without you.” I know, Davis: you’d probably be snacking on medical interns at Metropolis General, not yet immune to kryptonite-poisoning and car explosions. But I digress...
Meanwhile, one commercial break later, over at Luthorcorp, which needs to get a new name... “Have Mercy, Inc.”, named after Tess, maybe? Nah, that’d remind me of “Full House” for some reason. Anywho, Oliver’s looking at what appears to be a photo of some random industrial plan (probably coming up with ways of lowering CFC emissions), when Clark sweeps in with the news that Davis is alive, despite the fact that Oliver has the dirt under his fingernails to prove he buried the guy himself. Don’t you have underlings for that? Clawed its way out? I’m glad they didn’t show that actual scene on “Eternal.” Tres creepy. Clark and Oliver sound like respective broken records, the former nobly requesting that Ollie keep still-in-denial Chloe safe, while the latter leaps back on the “Let’s end a life to save a thousand more” bandwagon. In fact, Oliver NEEDS Clark to kill Doomsday. Why? You don’t have an immortal-killing arrow in your quiver, Green Arrow? Two stormy looks and a “Take care of Chloe” later, and the Blue-Blue Blur is out of sight.
Across town at the Isis Foundation, Chloe’s having another chat with Dr. Hamilton, and she doesn’t want to play her last card. Is it a Draw-4, Chloe? ‘Cause seriously, the guy’s not even a close friend -- don’t feel so bad about making him lose at Uno. Oh, you’re talking about Davis again. Emil’s techno-babble basically states that he’s got no Anti-Doomy syringe handy to cure Davis of his darker personality, and that it may be some strong emotion that’s keeping his transformations at bay, e.g. “Love... hate... obsession...” Chloe turns around, probably wondering if Davis is trying on her shoes now to keep himself reminded of her, and whispers, “Which is why my presence stops him from morphing.” Emil doesn’t want the world-destroyer anywhere near his lab, and I can’t say I blame him, so he suggests they start warning people. Chloe reminds him that ticking off Doomsday is typically a one-way ticket to losing some limbs and vital organs, and Dr. Hamilton backs down. Yet he gives her a last, ominous guilt trip: “Then it’s all on you. You’re the only cure.” Oooh, so they could do a blood transfusion or something then, and Chloe could run back to Clark, yes? No? Argh! Dr. Hammy hung up, and who zips in?
Clark’s back, beginning what seems to be a repeat of their previous conversation, and again, Chloe’s looking none too pleased that Clark’s gumshoe Scoobying skills have gotten sharper as of late. But the future Superman has a Supermanly plan, for once -- trap Davis in the Phantom Zone! Why didn’t I think of that -- like... two episodes ago? Oh, wait! I did. But still, it’s a good idea, only not to Chloe, who says she’s worried that Clark could get sucked in, too.
He brings up their conversation in “Legion” in which Chloe had said he should put the good of the world first, but her new mantra is, “And losing you is not good for the world!” True, that. But Clark’s willing to risk that possibility, so Chloe looks around the room, maybe for a convenient meteor rock, but instead comes up with the most convincing yet lame lie ever about a suspicious string of murders in Alaska that Clark’s all too eager to check out. LOL, this is stinkin’ hilarious, even though I’m still all “Grr!” that my Chloe’s lying to her Clark-meister. “Good luck,” she calls, and one confident smile later, our sapphire-clad speedster is outta sight!
Man... the Talon is rather creepy when it’s empty at night. They could pull off an awesome Halloween party here, complete with clangy, banging noises coming from Chloe’s apartment, door slightly ajar when Oliver arrives. He storms in to discover... Jimmy? Raiding Chloe’s jar o’ cash?! How low are you going to stoop, man? Oh, it’s a loan... ‘cause that makes stealing from your ex-wife that much more palatable, then, huh? Davis obviously doesn’t buy Jimmy’s promise to pay it back either, and it looks like people who steal from Chloe are gonna get capital punishment. WHACK!
When Oliver regains consciousness after the commercial break, he’s chained to a pillar with only Jimmy and some empty red velvet seats for company. He asks if Jimbo’s okay. Why does everyone always ask that question at the stupidest times on this show? Mr. Olsen responds as any sane person would: “Aside from being snatched by a crazed serial killer, yeah, I’m great.” Upon the reveal that they’re in the Talon basement and that Davis Bloome was behind their kidnapping, Ollie looks like he could use some Pepto-Bismol and wonders what Doomsday’s done to Chloe.
“I’d never hurt Chloe,” Davis rasps in his deep, evil, crazy-voice. Gulp! This scene is oh-so creepy. He tells them that Chloe saved him, and Jimmy actually defends his ex’s honor, calling her a “sucker for the strange” (heh) but not crazy. Davis suggests Jimmy kindly zip his lip, then Oliver blabs that “You bring new meaning to the term Bridezilla.” Oh, Jimmy... it took you this long to figure it out? Chloe picks that exact moment to call, assuring her personal Beast that she’s on her way. Oliver shouts out a warning, and when Chloe picks up on the fact that Davis has potential dinner guests (ew), she’s urgently demanding that he let her apartment-raiders go. And miss dessert? No, Mr. Bloome’s at least going to keep their undivided attention until they leave Smallville.
Chloe puts her pedal to the metal and says she’ll be there a.s.a.p., but now that Jimmy knows that Davis is the one who slice and diced his midsection, he’s all to eager to bait him with teasing taunts that belong in a middle school hallway, and it looks like fast may not be fast enough. “You brooding types are so complicated.” Okay, even I’ve gotta chuckle at that one. Davis has ruined his life and brainwashed Chloe, according to Jimmy-logic. Davis is eyeing him like a prize turkey at Thanksgiving, so Oliver tells him to hold on for Chloe, which earns the creepiest threat of the episode. He’ll have to kill one of them? Eep. Jimmy nominates himself, moaning that, “You’ve taken everything from me. All that’s left is scar tissue. You’re not even human.” “Stop talking!” Indeed, dude, shut up before the guy turns you into a Photographer Filet! Jimmy’s not listening to me or the serial killer, and is practically asking for his guts to be ripped out by saying Chloe would never love Davis if she knew the truth about him. Aaah! He’s got his serial killer thumbs on Jimmy’s eyelids as his own irises turn red. That’s gonna leave a mark... “Davis! DAVIS!” Oliver shouts. “Chloe would never forgive you for that.” Doomy turns fully human again long enough to get a smirk from Jimmy that earns him a wicked backhand that returns him to slumberland, but then turns on Oliver. “It has to be you...” Oh, snap! “Sometimes the monster really does get the girl.” Really? In what universe other than Shrek’s?
Upstairs, Clark blurs inside shouting Chloe’s name like she’s his wife of three years (I wish!), then uses super-hearing in the slowest... way... ever! After listening to several sentences’ worth of Oliver’s choked gasps, he finally busts down the basement door and slams Davis into some cylinder tank basement thingy that starts hissing steam. “Where’s Chloe?!” That’s what I want to know! There can’t be that many red lights on the rural roads between Metropolis and Smallville, can there? “What are you going to do to me Clark?” Apparently pick him up like a duffel bag and super-speed away, leaving a breathless and tremendously weirded out Oliver in his wake.
After another round of commercials, Chloe stumbles back into the Talon the following day (it feels like it anyway), and wonders who invited the Men in Black over. Spotting her ex-husband being rolled out on a hospital gurney, she anxiously asks if Davis was holding Jimmy in the basement. Ya think?! Dr. Hamilton says he’s lucky to be alive (especially after acting like the most suicidal kidnapping victim I’ve ever seen). Chloe apologizes and squeezes his arm, causing him to finally give her a sideways glance, and actually give her the very civil warning: “Whatever you do, Chloe... stay away from that monster.”
I second the motion, but first, Oliver’s here to be generally obnoxious and make thinly veiled suggestions that Chloe could be in prison now for harboring a serial killer. Our beautiful blond gal’s obviously not listening, as she says mostly to herself that she never should have left Davis alone. Oh, stop talking, Chloe. Yes. Yes, you should’ve left him PERMANENTLY, but it’s not ALL your fault. Oliver should’ve strapped Davis’ “corpse” to a rocket and blasted him into outer space, if you ask me. When did she become a bad guy? Are you serious?! You shut up too, then Oliver. Stop bashing my Chloe. “He needed me!” Chloe argues, and says that it’s complicated -- she had to choose to keep him with her or let innocent people die. Oliver says she’s done more than let him be her houseguest. Fluffing pillows and rocking him to sleep? Whaaa? Not quite, but she did fix him one mean casserole. Seriously, that steaming, cheese-topped dish made me hungry last week. Chloe can come over to my house and be Betty Crocker anytime.
She’s got everything in control. Which is why your former spouse and current employer almost got disemboweled downstairs, right, Chloe? Oliver calls her on this ridiculous statement, saying, “Your plan was seriously flawed. How did you think it would end?” If there were dancing teacups, candlesticks, clocks, and feather dusters bouncing around, I’d say differently, but in this case, all Chloe’s concerned about is finding Davis and “fixing” the situation. Oliver snaps that she should let Clark handle it, which really sets her off, demanding to know where her Superguy is. He’s going to “finally finish this?” Chloelicious doesn’t like the sound of that.
Clark FINALLY arrives at the Fortress and shoves Doomy into the snow like he’s an obnoxious next-door neighbor and they’re both ten years old. Wait, he ran all the way across Canada and half the United States without Davis trying to end the super-speed express early? Okay, I’ll suspend my disbelief long enough for C.K. and D.B. to stalk around the room in circles and Clark to give Davis the Cliff Notes version of how the Fortress of Solitude is the last piece of their home planet. He tries to paint out the Phantom Zone to be a luxury resort where Davis won’t have to hide who he really is, but all the killer’s concerned about is that it’s not “A world without Chloe?” His eyes spark red (Eek, again!) and he tells Clark he’d better have a Plan B. Ha!
Clark tells him to let her go, and so awesomely defends her honor, saying that Chloe would help anyone, being the “second chances” queen that she is, and that she doesn’t really have feelings for him. Davis angsts that he didn’t want this and brings up the kryptonite shower that he tried to use to end his reign of terror. His new tactic is to try and convince Clark that Chloe makes him human and he won’t be a threat when they’re attached at the hip, so Clark does what any sane person would do and gets the Brainiac black Phantom Zone portal crystal-mabob ready to plug in like it’s a high-tech iPod. Awww, Davis called Clark his Kryptonian brother! Isn’t that... disturbing? But Clark’s ready to disown his would-be sibling, and deport him so he can have a pow-wow with Daddy Zod (or what’s left of him), and starts to install CrystalPortal Version 10.1 on his KryptoMac. Davis tosses him across the Fortress, but Clark jumps back to his feet and says he doesn’t want to hurt his nemesis-of-the-season. “Don’t worry... you can’t.” Yikes! Super-punch! Crystal... in! The ice palace goes all red and shimmery as the portal opens up and Davis says that he’s taking Clark with him! Just when it looks like he might have the strength to back up that thread, he goes all wobbly-kneed, and Clark looks around as if he wonders where he put his car keys.
Oh, it’s Chloe! And she’s got the Octagonal Disk of Plot Contrivance! Too bad it didn’t come with a shot of the Kawatche Caves, which we haven’t seen in like three or four seasons and were probably dismantled to build the Ace of Clubs set or something. Come on, Chlo’, please just be here as a spectator for Davis’ one-way ticket to the most high security prison in the galaxy... but nope. She’s yelling at Clark about not wanting to get any blood on his hands and trying to force Davis into a life of... er... badness for all eternity. And he wouldn’t forgive himself for this... why? But nope, Clark just stands there stupidly as Chloe pops the octagon back in the crystal console (OHHHHhhhh, so that’s how that works), and she and her Doomy both vanish, leaving Clark looking very lame, sheepish, and melancholy. Way to stand up for yourself, dude.
The next morning (we assume), Jimmy barges into Oliver’s office, demanding to know what he’s learned about the Beast’s whereabouts. Well, he’s in the Marvel Universe actually, probably hanging out with Iceman, Cyclops, and... oh! You meant THAT Beast. Ollie apologizes that he’s got nothing on their Resident Evil-doer, but claims that the real beast may be inside Jimmy himself. “If you called me in here to be the poster boy for rehab, you can cancel the photo shoot!” ROTFLOL!!! Jimmy is comic gold in this episode. But Oliver offers him money for his “car,” and I love how Jimmy is all just stunned silence until he refuses the “handout.” But it turns out that Ollie’s offering him a full-time job! Jimmy points out that there’s not a big demand for “mediocre photographers turned cheap bartenders” on CareerBuilder.com. Again, HI-larious! Oliver inflates Jimmy’s ego, reminding him of how he singlehandedly cracked the mystery of Davis Bloome and took on the creep himself, then offers him the chance to change his life, holding out the check. Taking his other hand, Jimmy’s finally on the road to a full recovery from Druggie!Jimmy. Thank goodness!
That night, Clark is analyzing the Isis computers at about one-hundredth the speed Chloe would be doing the same job, looking for his selfsame blond cutie. Clark hears the door open and close, but upon seeing it’s just Oliver in full-snark mode, he turns his Red-Blue-Blurry back on him. Oliver’s blabbing about how Clark should give up his search and Chloe can make herself invisible. Since when? I can’t take my eyes off her! Er, anyway... Clark’s still on the defensive, saying that Chloe wouldn’t protect Davis if she didn’t feel trapped. But Oliver’s definitely a Chlavis shipper here, calling him “Tall, dark, and Doomsday” and referencing not only the wild goose chase to Alaska that Chloe sent him on, but the $10 billion merger with Tess that’s never really been brought up again since it happened. Clark says the Chloe Oliver is badmouthing doesn’t exist, that she’d “Never choose Davis over her friends.” Ollie sagely points out that people change -- yeah, into krypto-ring-stealing murderers, right? Clark should’ve killed “that thing” when he had the chance, blah, blah, guilt trip, blah, you have to make tough decisions, blah, blah, lecture, blah, that’s what heroes do. Ooooookay?
Cue the same song of awesomeness that started the episode (SERIOUSLY -- where can I download this?!), and Clark stares longingly at a photo of himself and Chloe from their Smallville High days. Oh, seriously, Clark, NOW you’re realizing what you truly lost? Dork. Ring, ring! “Isis Foundation, Mopey Clark speaking.” Okay, not really, but he does ask who it is -- it’s Chloe at a very rural looking gas station, just letting him know she’s “okay.” Yeah, if being trapped on an unwanted vacation with an obsessed serial killer in an SUV is your definition of “okay,” then I guess that’s accurate...
Clark demands to know where they are, but Chloe pleads for him not to try to find them. Clark’s only concerned for her safety, and Chloe knows that everyone’s probably fitting her for a straight jacket (another “Ha!” moment), but she knows what she’s doing. Do you REALLY, my dear Chloe? She explains that she couldn’t give Clark a head’s up about her runaway plan because he’d try and stop her (obviously), and then says one of the best Chlark lines ever: “Everything I’ve ever done, right or wrong, I did for you.” Clark seems really anxious to get to the truth about Chloe’s supposed “feelings” for Davis, and she shoots them down by simply stating that her real mission has been about protecting her Clarky. I KNEW IT! Yes... Clark says he’ll spend every minute looking for Chloe and will find a way to save her (more Chlark SWEETness!), and Chloe quietly repeats her old sentiments that, “You’re not here to save one person... you’re here to save all of us.” Clark doesn’t think sacrificing herself is the way to go, but I have to quote My Favorite TV Character EVER once more, as she gives Clark the following heartfelt confessions...
CHLOE: “I must have thrown a million green rocks away, and I’ve never really saved you. Now, I can.”
CLARK: “Chloe, this is your life we’re talking about. Don’t do this!”
CHLOE: “Clark... if there’s one lesson I’ve learned from you, it’s that choosing the greater good is never a sacrifice.”
Words cannot begin to describe how much I love the total splendiferabulastic Chlarkiness of this one scene!!!! She hangs up, and Clark crunches a lavender file cabinet like it’s an inflatable piece of office furniture. He SO is in love with Chloe here. Go find her, Clark! Speaking of that still-adorable her, she’s hastily wiping her tears away when she hears her personal stalker sleazily creeping up behind her with a chocolate heart lollipop. Don’t accept candy from strangers! “Let’s disappear.” Whew. That deep breath she takes says it all -- how nervous and weirded out she is, and yet how she’s steeling herself to “take one for the team,” so to speak. Finally, their car pulls away into the darkness, as I wonder what will become of my lovely blond heroine...
END CREDITS as that anonymously awesome song finishes playing.
AAAAAAAND, onto the review.
First off, the acting. Everybody did an amazing job in this episode! Tom portrayed Clark with such heroism! I loved how he was willing to stand up for what he believes in to Oliver and came up with his own quite ingenious plan of dealing with their Doomsday problem. His vulnerability around Chloe was touching, too, and really, his performance just hit all the right notes for me. Allison Mack? What new stuff can I say that I haven’t said already? That girl acts the socks, shoes, and any other footwear off any episode she’s in, and I’m SO glad that she’s Smallville’s leading lady this year. Every episode, there’s another scene that I think is her best, and the last one in “Beast” is no exception. Aaron and Justin also both did incredible jobs in their respective roles. Aaron’s performance as Jimmy was almost scary in how kind of crazy he seemed in the basement when taunting Doomsday, but I knew that’s what they were going for, so kudos to him. Justin has made Oliver a LITTLE more likable to me again, and has improved as an actor tremendously since his first Season 6 appearance. And Sam Witwer continues to “wow” as Davis, taking his character in increasingly darker directions as we spiral ever closer to the season finale.
Character-wise? Again, Clark is acting Supermanly, and I LOVE it! I LOVE seeing him take initiative, develop plans, stick to his opinions, and do everything he can to save everyone. That’s really what makes him as super as he is, even if he can be a little naive, as he was at moments in this episode. I also adored how defensive he was on the subject of Chloe, and how he continually took her side and upheld her honor in his arguments with both Oliver and Davis. A lot of people hate how he wimped out in the Fortress, but Chloe can be a little bit like Kryptonite to him, too, in some ways. She’s usually always so brilliant, that I can understand why he’d hesitate and want to believe in what she was saying, even if I don’t totally agree with her logic in this episode.
Speaking of my personal favorite, Miss Sullivan... I’ve really been bummed at the direction that TPTB have taken her character toward the end of this season. I mean, sure, they’ve been giving her important plots and lots of stuff to do, but at what price? It feels a lot like they’re breaking down her character, piece by piece, and I hate it. Her continual lies to Clark and sending him off to Alaska really bothered me, and actually made my dad shout “IDIOT!” at the screen several times. “Don’t you think she’s an idiot?” he demanded of me. “She’s hot,” was my reply, but no, I really don’t think she’s an idiot. Do I think she’s thought everything through with her current plans? No, not completely, but I can totally understand WHY she thinks she has to do what she’s doing. And after the entire episode made almost every viewer (myself included) questioning her motivations, that final scene gave me a reason to hope again. Her relationship with Clark, and her desire to protect him at all costs, are two of the things that keep me watching every season, and it’s clear that we’re ratcheting things up with Chloe’s character that should lead to a very pivotal season finale.
Thank goodness they’ve brought Jimmy back to some semblance of sanity. I didn’t particularly like the Druggie!Jimmy idea, but since it didn’t last terribly long, and he really had gone through several months of horribleness, I guess I’m okay with it, especially now that it seems it’ll finally have some payoff in his new friendship with Oliver and becoming one of his employees. Maybe the road to recovery isn’t as long as I thought. Though I’d still rather him be at the Daily Planet...
Oliver still irks me on many occasions. His holier-than-thou attitude drives me nuts, and he always seems to cop this attitude that his opinions are the only ones that are right and that matter. I think that he should realize by now that the tactics he uses to try and convince Clark that he’s wrong (usually by bashing him) don’t really work, and that maybe his “vigilante justice” system isn’t always the way to go, but at the same time, I get where the guy’s coming from, too. Whose side will win this “to kill or not to kill?” debate by season’s end? I’m anxious to find out.
I won’t say much about Davis, other than that he was just incredibly creepy and psycho in this episode, which I guess is how dark he should be by this point in the season, but still... he gave me the willies! True villainy at its... er... villainousest... or... something.
Plot? Well, I liked lots of things. I enjoyed the fact that Jimmy’s done with his drug habit, Clark’s using his brain more, and Chloe still loves Clark and is on his side. Those are all majorly good things. The Phantom Zone crystal idea was inspired, really, even though it didn’t work out. The writers and producers did a great job of making this a seriously intense episode, and not putting their foot on the brakes for a second as they bring us closer to the finale. Every episode since “Infamous” has done a phenomenal job of moving ahead the season’s overall plot, which has really impressed me. You can tell that TPTB actually have a plan, and it’s a pretty cool one, for the most part.
But there were loads of things that got on my nerves, too. I really wish that Chloe hadn’t immediately shut down Clark’s PZ plan, as I truly believe it was a good one. It’s nice that she doesn’t want Clark to write off Davis to life as a monster that would either escape from the Zone eventually or drag Clark in with him, but still, it could’ve at least given them the chance to come up with some other way of containing Doomsday or exorcising his dark side, right? Maybe? I don’t know... Clark also needs to stop letting people tell him he’s wrong and pushing him around, as it’s detracting from his Supermanly status. Who are Chloe or Oliver to badmouth him the way they did? Though I think Chloe did it to try and reassure Davis, and that she didn’t completely believe or mean many of the things she said in that scene. And last, but most definitely not least, that incredibly GORY, GRUESOME scene in the beginning was WAAAAAAAAY too nasty for my Smallville. Ugh! I know they did it mainly for shock value, and to show us Chloe’s secret fears, but it was way too much horror for this superhero show. Bleeeaghhh...
All in all, it was an okay, but necessary episode. I originally gave it a 6 out of 10, but maybe it’s more of a 6.5 or 7, mainly because it was so important to the overall Doomsday arc, and the Chlark sweetness at the end. I’m incredibly pumped for “Injustice” and “Doomsday,” now, and am anxious to write more reviews, so stay tuned for more quips and quotes from your friendly neighborhood...
--SGuthrie ><>’ :)--
saltyweeks
05-02-2009, 11:36 AM
The trouble is, the "Chloe is impulsive" argument merely renders her both stupid AND shallow as a character. As far as, "no time for introspection" goes, I think that she has actually had more than enough time to appreciate the conflict between her own feelings and the moral and pragmatic necessities in dealing with the fact that Davis has killed over fifty times - and will kill again, given the opportunity. If she hasn't, then far from being a character with depth and a complex motivation, she is behaving as simply as a pinball, merely reacting to outside influence without taking any control or responsibility for her actions. In fact, the lack of introspection removes the potential interest from the storyline, as there ceases to be any moral conflict - Chloe becomes an essentially selfish, amoral creature, purely seeking to satisfy her own needs and desires, regardless of the effect on others unless she has an emotional attatchment to them (e.g. she may not want Clark to die any more than she wants Davis to be imprisoned as Doomsday, but only because she loves them both - anyone she doesn't know is unimportant, so potentially expendable). Why care about what happens to her or what she does, if that is what she is reduced to?
well, obviously i disagree. it's not really an argument, Chloe IS impulsive-- that's a character trait of hers. but you seem to have the same Madonna-whore issues with her as the characters on the show do. she isn't some Barbie doll sitting around waiting to be called on to do the right thing for people, or the world. she's an emotional person (who has become emotionally FRAGILE this season) who makes the best calls she can given what she has to work with.
Chloe's actions are far from amoral. i mean, come on, if she really just wanted Davis for herself and was living life on the Chloe-pleasure principle (which I think the alley scene last week showed she's NOT) then there are FAR more direct ways of accomplishing those goals.
she could have total sway over Davis, and as Alaska demonstrated she could control Clark too. instead she seeks to take moral actions as the problems around her mount (become impossible, really) and if she doesn't always "do the right thing"-- well, what kind of person would? a saint? everyone may want a pure, virginal princess of unquestionable virtue, but that's NOT Chloe-- and when folks try to shove her into that role they end up confused and hurt. but that's not her fault, she's doing what she feels is best.
Chloe a pinball? not entirely inappropriate but i don't think for exactly the reasons you mean. it is true that in her world consequences are large and come quickly, and she's reacting at times to people who move at light speed. but there is significant depth to her decisions. i wouldn't confuse the fact that she's not doing what a "hero" should, or what others think she should, with shallowness. she's clearly making reasoned choices, whether you agree with her reasons or not.
HeroesUnlimited
05-02-2009, 12:09 PM
The only thing I didn't care for was that we didn't actually get to see "the beast". I would have been cool had Davis transformed when he went at it with Clark. I think the only time we're going to see that is in the finale.
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Clark will always be able to trust Lois. :cool:
Except for when she makes up stories to report, lol
tibbit78
05-02-2009, 12:14 PM
Denigation 15, I love your avatar. What is that a picture of?
Back on Topic: I watched Beast 3 times, and I still liked this episode. I still feel sorry for Clark & Davis Bloome for having to become enemies. I like Tom Welling, and I also like Sam Witwer. I hope that Sam comes back on Smallville for the 9th Season. I'll miss him.
HeroesUnlimited
05-02-2009, 12:15 PM
Does anyone think that clark could use black K to seperate davis from doomsday??? Thus sending the beast to the PZ. What you think?
Never thought of that. That's a very good idea actually.
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what are you guys talking about¿???? I absolutely loved this eppy, it's all about chloe's proving her love for clark
Meanwhile, putting thousands of lives at risk in the process. Yeah, good plan, lol.
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but I'm getting annoyed with the 'Clark's wrong, everyone else is right' mentality.
Ditto. The irony is, he's not wrong. He was trying to do the responsible thing but removing Davis/Doomsday without killing him. Chloe is starting to get on my nerves.
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I miss the days that we were both battling on Lois's behalf against Lois haters. Now, Lois is doing so great and has so many fans, that she doesn't need defending hardly at all
So now Lois is beyond criticism? ?!!?
Hopefulsuicide
05-02-2009, 12:27 PM
The writer's are incapable of keeping a character consistent and keeping their actions logical, which keeps leading me to furrowed brows and the continued question of 'Is he/she insane?'
I don't see Chloe as insane here though. I see Oliver as not only irrational, but also cold and arrogant. He actually seemed to enjoy telling Chloe that (he thought) Clark was taking care of it... and the way he kept trivializing their feelings for each other as though he didn't care and it was all black and white really pissed me off. Plus, he KNOWS that killing Doomsday isn't going to stop him... so I can't understand why he keeps telling Clark to kill him (or why Clark keeps looking all serious when he says it) when they both know that it won't make a bit of difference.
Chloe's decisions make perfect sense to me. Her keeping him hidden reminded me of when Angel came back from hell, and Buffy took care of him, making his beastlyness calm down. When everyone found out, they were angry at her harboring a known murderer who could turn into a monster. Very very similar situation.
Clark doesn't seem to be able to make up his mind... he just seemed to be doing whatever someone told him to do. In fairness too him, his idea of sending Davis to the phantom zone was the only one that actually would have saved the world... but he didn't stick to it. He didn't trust himself. He had idiot Oliver yelling murder in one year, and hopeful Chloe trying to save Davis (under the pretense of protecting Clark's sensitive guilt issues)... and neither of their ideas is going to work, and will eventually lead to a lot of death and destruction...
*sigh*
Overall I enjoyed the episode. I thought it was well directed, but the writing was a bit limp in places... like when Chloe was talking to Hamilton in Isis, and she turns around and reveals with a shocked face 'which is why my presence stops him from morphing'... well duh!
HeroesUnlimited
05-02-2009, 12:29 PM
Actually no it didn't.
I could care less what Chloe motives are.
Agreed. She has too much power on this episode. She should not be able to override Clark's decisions (or his actions). I'm getting tired of seeing her emasculate him on a weekly basis.
HeroesUnlimited
05-02-2009, 12:34 PM
And if Jimmy hadn't broken into Chloe's house, and Clark hadn't told Oliver to babysit Chloe, Oliver and Jimmy wouldn't have had any contact with Davis because he would still be hiding in the basement. Remember, Davis went to investigate the break-in at Chloe's apartment. He Dooms out whenever Chloe is threatened. He's like a German Shepard that attacks when his owner is in danger.
That's a weak argument. Davis is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. If it wasn't Jimmy and Oliver, it would have been someone else. It's like trying to keep a pack of pit bulls in a nursery full of newborns. It's a recipe for disaster.
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I agree. Chloe's plan works but she must remain with him at all times.
But what if Chloe dies? Heck, what if she lives to be an old lady? He'd still outlive her. Then what? He goes nuts the moment he dies? She's not really fixing anything. She's only delaying the inevitable.
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and Clark is just being stupid.
How? What did HE do wrong in this episode? I saw him making all the RIGHT decisions this time around.
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I was referring to Olivers murder of Lex. That was sensless and irrational. Though Lex is technically the bad guy; he was 100% human and Oliver did it without even considering any consquence.
In his mind, it was the right thing to do. He believes he was ridding the world of a monster. It's pretty hard to refute that Lex has become a monster.
Hopefulsuicide
05-02-2009, 01:15 PM
In his mind, it was the right thing to do. He believes he was ridding the world of a monster. It's pretty hard to refute that Lex has become a monster.
1. Isn't that exactly what Lex thought he was doing at the end of season 7... protecting the world from the traveler by killing Clark? If you try to kill someone in cold blood, just because you think they are dangerous, it is wrong...
2. Lex didn't become a monster in the same way that Davis is a monster. Doomsday does not have rational thoughts, he doesn't have plans, he doesn't have reason... he just kills and destroys... Lex does things that are immoral and evil, but he isn't a monster, he is a man.
super_j_man
05-02-2009, 01:44 PM
Hello, and welcome to the second edition of SGuthrie’s Smallville episode reviews, brought to you by Yankee Candle Company and careerbuilder.com, where they really do accept resumes of mediocre photographers/cheap bartenders.
I really enjoyed your review SGuthrie and I don't think I have ever "lol"ed to hard in my life when I read your recap. :)
NoSupeForYou
05-02-2009, 01:45 PM
It's kind of funny where this is headed because in the end it will be Chloe who destroys Davis and brings about Doomsday, not Clark. Chloe is making Doomy weak because his camouflage has a thing for her. Therefore, the only way to adapt to this attack will be to shed the camo and thus bring about the full Doomsday. In being so arrogant as to think that she can keep Doomsday at bay she will actually achieve what Brainiac was trying to do and I will have no pity for her when it all blows up in her face.
HeroesUnlimited
05-02-2009, 01:51 PM
1. Isn't that exactly what Lex thought he was doing at the end of season 7... protecting the world from the traveler by killing Clark? If you try to kill someone in cold blood, just because you think they are dangerous, it is wrong...
It's silly to try to compare Clark and Lex in this way. Lex has murdered/killed people. He's destroyed lives. Comitted crimes against humanity. Clark SAVES others. He defends the weak. Lex is a maniac. The fact that HE believes Clark was a threat means nothing because in reality, it is Lex who is the threat.
2. Lex didn't become a monster in the same way that Davis is a monster. Doomsday does not have rational thoughts, he doesn't have plans, he doesn't have reason... he just kills and destroys... Lex does things that are immoral and evil, but he isn't a monster, he is a man.
Lex doesn't have the physical appearance of a monster, but his actions are that of a monster. Murder. Corruption. Experimenting on others against their will. Etc. The end result is almost as bad. Lex is far more subtle than Doomsday (obviously), but his actions are no less destructive.
Hopefulsuicide
05-02-2009, 02:25 PM
It's silly to try to compare Clark and Lex in this way. Lex has murdered/killed people. He's destroyed lives. Comitted crimes against humanity. Clark SAVES others. He defends the weak. Lex is a maniac. The fact that HE believes Clark was a threat means nothing because in reality, it is Lex who is the threat.
Actually I was comparing Lex's actions and Oliver's actions, not Lex and Clark.
Lex doesn't have the physical appearance of a monster, but his actions are that of a monster. Murder. Corruption. Experimenting on others against their will. Etc. The end result is almost as bad. Lex is far more subtle than Doomsday (obviously), but his actions are no less destructive.
Guess it depends on your definition of a monster. To me, Lex has always seemed morally grey, even to the end.
He is driven by human desires, and yes those desires come from the evil side of human nature, and yes acting upon them is wrong, but I don't think it makes you a monster. To me 'monster' is indicative of a being without reason, without a life.
patrese
05-02-2009, 02:28 PM
I think this episode was the most important one in showing us the true principal arc that sets the stage for the finale. It shows us this seasons' undercurrent that will sweep all the characters away to the catastrophes in the finale. It is Dr. Hamilton who gives us the key. When Chloe asks him what keeps Davis from transforming Dr. Hamilton says "sometimes dramatic changes to the body are caused by intense emotions, love, hate (pause) obsession.
It is Chloe's conversations with Dr. Hamilton that are key. When we see their meeting in the car, Chloe alludes to the fact Oliver can not be trusted to act wisely because he killed Lex. Yet she killed Wilson. So it begs the question, is it really Oliver that cannot be trusted or is it Chloe herself?
Throughout this season, we have seen Chloe's friendship with Clark transformed into obsession, she has unhesitantly killed for him. It is this I believe that will have the disastrous climax in the finale. Hamilton to Chloe:" it is all on you, you're the only cure". But was he really alluding to Davis or to herself alone?
Clark thinks she is still the friend he knew, but she is no longer. When we think of the key transformational character, we think Davis/Doomsday but it is really Chloe.
Secondarily, now, each key character is obsessed with pushing towards a final killing field. Each has blood on their hands except Clark. Tess, Oliver, Davis, and Chloe each have blood on their hands. Each rebuked Clark for not. He is now separate, alone, even from Chloe (at the FOS), "Clark, the only reason you won't kill him is you don't want blood on your hands".
It is this rebuke that stuns Clark at the FOS.
It is Chloe that is the true danger not Doomsday.
SGuthrie27
05-02-2009, 02:28 PM
Thanks, Jess, for your kind words about my second attempt at a review! Glad it warranted a few "LOL"-worthy moments. :D
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
bigblueplanet
05-02-2009, 02:51 PM
I think if Chloe had told Clark that she’s doing this because she has feelings for Davis and doesn’t want to give up finding a cure for him, it would’ve been much more dramatic & tragic, imo, and I could feel for her. In that case, a true SV twisted version of ‘Beauty and Beast’ I would say, and it’d make this version of DD and Clark final confrontation somehow much more tense as well. (Well, this Doomsday is all about a girl so why not make the epic battle between DD/RBB into *all-about-the-girl* fight, too? With all my luck I’ll probably get Darkseid next season who wants to marry Lois. lol)
BUT instead, she told Clark that he’d never forgive himself if he send this monster into PZ but then later called him and said she is doing all this only because of him. Great heaven. Like that doesn’t make him feel guilty and responsible x1000 times more than putting the ultimate destroyer into PZ. Chloe supposedly knows him better than anyone, so she obviously wants Clark to keep uttering “It’s all my fault” for the rest of his life. Welcome to Smallville, the journey of “everything is Clark Kent’s fault”. Gee.
I’m very disappointed with the direction the show has taken my favorite character, let alone their new interpretation of Doomsday. Also they totally screwed their last *original* character on the show, imo, and I feel sorry for this version of Superman that even his BFF has NO faith in him and she thinks her hero needs to be protected. What a unreliable superhero people think he is in the SV verse. :rolleyes: But I do agree with Chloe for one thing. This Clark Kent definitely needs to be saved. Not from Doomsday though, ……..but from these show runners!!!
4 out of 10.
borednow
05-02-2009, 03:08 PM
5 ... Jimmy, Ollie and Clark were all good but Chloe and Davis and their story line are just dragging everything down for me.
THEcrownsMINE
05-02-2009, 03:23 PM
6. I don't know why, but these 'dark' Davis-centered episodes don't sit well with me. Beast was good....i guess...but a bit boring (though the teaser scared me really bad lol) :)
actaeon
05-02-2009, 04:42 PM
Throughout this season, we have seen Chloe's friendship with Clark transformed into obsession, she has unhesitantly killed for him.
Welcome, Patrese!
Good insight. I think Chloe's bizarre actions lately can be explained only as a consequence of her obsession to protect Clark. It has become her raison d'etre, the all-defining aspect of her life. She has taken it so far that she feels she is solely responsible for Clark's safety and wellbeing... that the task is too important for anyone else to shoulder... including Clark himself! So she withholds vital information from Clark (like the fact that Dooms is still alive). She makes decisions for Clark (removing the crystal and preventing him from sending Dooms to the PZ).
This obsession of Chloe's has got to be stopped.
bigblueplanet
05-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Welcome, Patrese!
Good insight. I think Chloe's bizarre actions lately can be explained only as a consequence of her obsession to protect Clark. It has become her raison d'etre, the all-defining aspect of her life. She has taken it so far that she feels she is solely responsible for Clark's safety and wellbeing... that the task is too important for anyone else to shoulder... including Clark himself! So she withholds vital information from Clark (like the fact that Dooms is still alive). She makes decisions for Clark (removing the crystal and preventing him from sending Dooms to the PZ).
This obsession of Chloe's has got to be stopped.
If Chloe’s obsession is only to protect Clark, then why doesn’t she corporate to Clark’s decision for sending Davis to PZ? She even killed a guy for Clark AND she suggested him to kill Lex as well for his own sake, …… so why not Davis? :confused:
ClLaLeChFAN01
05-02-2009, 05:44 PM
BEAST
The beginning was probably the best holy I *hit my pants openings ever!!! At first I closed my eyes and when the music stopped I opened then and saw a half of Clark (oh my!)...it was a really good beginning!
Chloes attitude changed towards Davis in this episode. She was almost like an impatient mom with a whiny child who has nightmares. At first you are patient the first few times they call you towards their room, but after the 50-1000th time you just want it to stop!
I think her love for Davis died when he came to life, she now realize that if kryptonite cant kill Davis then Clark is in a creek without a paddle. She needs to do something so Clark will not die. I dont agree with her actions but I understand why and what she did up to the Phantom Zone scene. I would have talked to Oliver and Clark if I was Chloe.
The PZ was a GREAT IDEA!!! It is a perfect place for Dark, Gloom, and Doomsday! But at this point I think that Chloe does have feeling for Davis...why not put the beast in a cage? because it is inhuman? Im just confuse with Chloes decision and I think Chloe is just as confuse. It seems that she is not thinking throughly....
What happens when a photo is not enough...the hair...clothes...perfume...even herself....im thinking that she will regret her actions when it comes to that point. Chloe cant tame the beast forever.
Chloes line to Clark about not having blood on his hands, blah blah blah, confused me (yet again). Im not 100% clear where Chloe stands here. She knows that Clark will not kill. She knows that Davis cannot die (or does she?). So that means in conclusion that he needs to be imprisoned (which would be a common sense solution here, right???). Perhaps she is thinking that she can still tame the beast with herself being at his side....or its bad writing.
Jimmy was great in this episode! I dont mind the dark side of Jimmy, but Im thinking how will he be the Jimmy that we knew from the comics? This is some pretty heavy-character changing situations he is going through? Do I hear memory loss anyone?
The Oliver-Jimmy-Davis scene was great a nice and fresh change to what we are use to. It was intense and scary all rolled up in a hot flour shell!!!
Davis was also great, but I dont think he realizes that he is prisoning Chloe without a cage or chains. So he if he really loves Chloe he should be willing to walk into the PZ.
Good Ol' Oliver...he was right about Chloe. "When did you become one of the bad guys?" and "How did you think this was going to end?" were two lines that I was thinking before he said it to Chloe. ALso, it was great that he is giving Jimmy a chance, it is a boost that he needs. Oliver was right about the quilties that Jimmy has...Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!
Clark....:) Im so happy with him in this episode!!! :) I shouted SUPERMAN! SUPERMAN! SUPERMAN! THE MAN IS ON TRACK...WATCH OUT!!! He had a great idea with the PZ and the scene with Oliver at Isis was HOT! Did you see his facial espressions!!!! It was fantastic! I love it when Clark is annoyed with Olivers lectures!!! I wish that they will do more Clark and Oliver scenes next year, its great! Its like Lois and Clark without the sexual attraction!!!
The Clark and Chloe scene broke my heart, it was great! I will find you, Chloe! This scene made me realize that Chloe is doing this all for Clark! This scene also showed me that she really doesnt love Davis like she did. "I must have thrown away a million green rocks away and I havent saved you- now I can." That was such a great line from Chloe it broke me heart again,
I have *hit my pants, Im confuse like h*ll, and my heart is broken twice over! This episode ranks up there as one of the best!!! Im back on the Rollercoaster! However.....
I still have to ask...What feelings does Chloe have for Davis? & What was wrong with the Phantom Zone Idea Chloe?!?!?! WTF?!?!?
lm1212
05-02-2009, 07:17 PM
Action? I was waiting the entire episode for the action and never got it. All I saw was a few shoves here & there followed by a gigantic copout. Also, there was a plothole, or at least something that has yet to be explained. Why did Chloe's presence not stop Davis from transforming in Infamous but has stopped him from transforming since Eternal? There is a thread I posted about this where there is speculation that maybe Chloe's marital status has something to do with this, but I don't think Doomsday cares about marital status.
This episode had too little of Clark in it. Also, I was not happy again with all these characters who don't know s--t about Kryptonian things like the Phantom Zone or Doomsday for that matter make judgements and throw their idiotic opinions in Clark's face without him vocally telling them how stupid & wrong they are. Oliver did this by telling him to kill DD, when Clark knows that DD can't be killed. Clark should have pointed this out & made Ollie look like the jackass he is. He should have also shown how stupid Chloe is about what she's doing and how Davis has gone from someone who was able to keep the beast inside to someone who has to kill to keep it in, with the next step being someone who can't keep the beast locked up anymore. He should have told her how wrong her judgement is and how she has no business in his affairs. It was a joke how they have these characters who try to make Clark look like a jerk when they in fact are the jerks and Clark says nothing to show them how wrong they are. The same thing happened with Tess in Eternal.
I give this episode a 3/10.
Great amount of action for Smallville. Smallville won't ever be action packed like a jet-li movie, but comparing it to the rest of the season, it had good action.
tibbit78
05-02-2009, 07:29 PM
I loved this episode, Beast. In my opinion, this was not a "filler" episode at all.
Fallen One
05-02-2009, 08:00 PM
Friends Finale - by Genevieve Sparling
Scene opens in the sitting area of Central Perk. Phoebe, Joey, and Ross are seated.
Ross: So, that's it. I've had enough of denying myself of the things I want. Today, I'm going to tell Rachel that I want her in my life and can't live without her. It's the best thing to do.
Joey: Ooo! You know the best thing to do? Mix peanut butter and tuna. Mmmmm.
Laugh Track - Rachel enters
Ross: Uh, Rach? I was wondering if I could talk to you?
Rachel: (Excited) Oh Ross, just wait one second. I wanted to introduce you all to someone I've just met. She's incredible. Chloe?
Chloe, dressed in all black, turns around and walks over to the group
Ross: Thats... your new friend..?
Chloe: (Shake hands with everyone individually) Hi there. I'm the Chloe. Nice to meet you. The Chloe - that's me. Hi there. Chloe here.
Ross: I know it's soon, but I'm madly in love with her. Oh, I've never felt this way before.
Chloe: Thats because you never met someone like me.
Phoebe: Oh my gosh! You're right!
Rachel: Isn't she something else?
Joey: I'll say. She's just what this finale needs.
Chloe: Well I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but yeah.. it kinda does.
Phoebe: How selfless of you!
Laugh Track - Chandler and Monica enter the room. They are holding their newly adopted baby - played by Davis
Chandler: Well, it's official! We have a baby! Here's the little guy now.
Applause
Baby (Davis): Goo goo. Gaa gaa.
Joey: Aw, isn't he cute. Does the little fella need to be changed?
Baby (Davis): Listen Jack, the only thing I need is Chloe.
Chandler: (noticing Chloe) Whoa! Who's that awesome lady?
Joey: That's Chloe! She's mine!
Chloe: Now now fellas, there's plenty of Chloe to go around.
Laugh Track.
Monica: Normally, I'd be upset that my husband is leaving me, but this woman's awesome! Can she be any more awesome?
Phoebe: I know. I think I'm falling in love with you too.
Joey: But Phoebe, you just got married!
Phoebe: Screw that. This woman's amazing.
Laugh Track
Rachel: Everything worked out. We all have a new great friend. I guess this group isn't ever splitting up.
Clark: Ahh Ahhhhh ahhhhhhhhhh!!
Lois: Clark, Clark, Wake up! Wake up! You're dreaming again!
Clark: Oh my God. Oh my God. Lois. Oh, it’s just you. Oh it was terrible. They were all there. Chloe kept smiling, but not really smiling and all cast of friends were holding hands. They were jumping rope and singing "1,2,3...Chloe likes me." Then when I objected Peterson ran up behind me and hit my leg with a crowbar.
Lois: Shhh. It’s ok, Clark. I warned you that smelling sauce was really paint. Now breathe over here by the fan. You’ll be ok.
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Yep, its gonna be that type of review. Maybe it doesn't need to be this way. I could discuss Rosanne's 6th personality. What? You wanna know about this week's episode of Smallville? Sigh.. You don't want that.. really.. OK.. I warned ya...
Previously ON!
Davis hurt everyone but the right person. Tasering is the new coke formula. Chloe was dumped like a bedpan. Stand back, there's a retcon coming through! Watchtower became a bad punchline. I laughed at inner demons.
The music of angst starts us off and who else but Chloe is on screen. She attempts to get some sleep but a phone call interupts her. Its Davis who is scared because he had another nightmare. Doomsday had a nightmare.
Gotta get some beers. Be right back {1 minute later} Let us proceed.
He asks her to come downstairs because he doesn't want to be alone and she goes a'runnin. Soon as she opens the basement door she sees a single rose pedel on the step. Looking further she notices the hundreds more on the remaining steps. How romantic. Doomsday is romantic.
Fork To The Eye Count: 1
She walks down the stairs grinning and they flirt a little. Davis had to leave the basement to buy the flowers and she didn't think that was a bright idea. He gives her a rose and that makes it all better. He thanks her for all she's done and she tells him not to mention it, friends help each other. Davis raises a eyebrow.
"Friends help you move. They take you to the airport - you can't think thats really all this is." - Davis, 7:04 PM
Brushing that off, she tells him that it doesn't change their relationship. More mushy talk from Davis finishing with him telling her that the feelings they share are real. She tries to squirm out of there but he corners her and asks her to stay the night with him. That.. without her, he wouldn't exist. Only Chloe would dream about someone telling her that without her they wouldn't exist. Thats right up her ego alley.
Fork To The Eye Count: 14
They kiss and I close my eyes and envision myself riding through the Talon on my motorcycle, tossing a grenade. After they break their embrace, she notices something behind Davis. The music turns to a eery score as she sees a trail of blood leading someone in the basement. She asks Davis is that blood and he answers 'what did she think would happen?' She follows the trail until it ends behind a curtain. When she pulls it back she screams and sees the bloodied corpse of Clark, half his body ripped off, and hanging from a pipe. Thats the sickest visual this show has done, well.. besides Lana in a powersuit. Chloe wakes up, it was just a nightmare. What a coincidence, my nightmare is just starting.
Opening Credits. I'm sorry there must be some kind of mistake, why is Clark the first character?
Talon. Chloe's making a cappuccino and spills some when Clark walks in on her. Getting down to bizzness, Clark hands her a copy of the the latest DP paper. Offscreen Tess has decided to run the serial killer story on Davis; his photo with a police manhunt searching for him is seen. Chloe ignores it and tells Clark the D-man is dead, but he's not so sure. The body of Ugly's thug from last week was found in a dumpster, torn apart. All of this is clearly Davis' M.O.. Clark further says that the body was found after Davis was killed, and that he's come back from the dead before. Logical right? Well, all you see in this scene is a ball of blonde hair swinging from the left to the right for a solid minute as Chloe denies everything Clark says. She spins it into Clark just being paranoid and scared.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
Ace of Clubs. Oliver is in a meeting with some suits discussing ways for Luthorcorp to go Green. Oh.. oh, I get it. Funny, show. Jimmy walks in, nervously looking around like he just ate bean dip. He asks Oliver if they could talk for a spell - and that it was for an important reason. Oliver excuses himself and what does he get asked? He's asked for $600 so that Jimmy could pay a mechanic for his car troubles. If looks could kill.
This kinda reminded me of a particular moment that was spoiled by the father of this high school hottie of mine. He interrupted our kiss and told her that it was for an important reason as well. His reason? So that she could get his gun. I got the message, and ran home.
Oliver brings up Jimmy's job as a Bartender, but he says he's been laid off. Having enough, Ollie just comes out and confronts him about being an addict. Jimmy denies it, but the red eyes, bags, 5 O'clock shadow, and weird behavaior kinda gives it away. To his credit, Oliver does offer to put Jimmy through rehab and pay for the tab himself.
Yes Oliver, but do they have ESPN? Didn't think so.
Jimmy isn't having any of this and he walks off, giving Oliver a shoulder brush in the process. Oliver calls after him and tells him that he going down a lonely path and that he is a friend Jimmy could talk to, but that he won't give him money for drugs. Jimmy guilts him about it, saying that he thought they were friends but since Oliver doesn't trust him they aren't.
Parking lot. Thats the best I can do, cause I have no idea where the hell they are. But its Chloe and Dr. Hamilton talking in his car. She's just confessed to him that she has Davis in her basement. He asks who else knows this info and she says no one, not even Oliver because she can't trust him. Doc tells her that Oliver created the League to deal with these types of problems. She thinks for a moment and rats out that Oliver killed Lex, drawing a reaction from the Doc. She continues.
"..And the stakes are too high to have someone involved who can't think clearly." - Holy.. crap, 7:17PM.
OLIVER'S the one who isn't thinking clearly??? And scheming behind the boss' back does not a Watchtower make. She describes Davis' condition as an infection, and tells him that he's the only one who can find a cure. He doesn't think he can do anything with Davis' saliva (there's a water bottle of Davis' that she apparently took), and he wants to see Davis in person. When thats denied he says he'll run tests anyway to see what he can find.
As she exits the car, a near-beasting Davis walks up to her and asks who was the guy in the car. She ushers him to a wall, tells him it was just a friend, and asks him whats wrong since he shouldn't be outside. He tells her that nothing works to calm him now. That he's tried looking at photos of her and holding locks of her hair, but that its to the point where as soon as she leaves his presence he Dooms out. That.. he can't be away from her now.
Fork To The Eye Count: 17
Talon. Davis holds a copy of the Daily Planet headline that calls for the manhunt of him - the cornfield killer. Chloe's voice is heard as she explains that she didn't want to tell him about it because it would upset him, and that the police are hunting for him which is why he needed to stay indoors. Davis looks shaken up and tells her that by accepting her help he's placed her in trouble with the law as well. She tells him that she won't let anyone find him. He asks what will happen if the cops find her, and she declares that they'll skip town as fugitives. Davis looks up in surprise and I take another sip of beer.
Davis tells her she's done enough for him and that he can't ask her to run away with, but she tells him that its her decision. He gets up to think then tells her that she wouldn't be able to say goodbye to Clark or anyone, and asks would she do that, is Davis that important to her? She thinks it over and tells him that she would do anything for him. He looks convinced and tells her that they should leave today. She looks taken aback as if she didn't expect to leave so soon, but tells him that she has to close some accounts and make sure no one can find them, then they'll leave at sun down. I thought it was all over but he had to tell her once more that he doesn't know what he would do without her.
Fork To The Eye Count: 22
Commercial Break. "Hi." Hi. "Is Chloe there?" No. "Sorry. I must have the wrong number" - When Doomsday Calls - Rated PG-13. Opens everywhere on May 14th.
Hello? 911? Please send help! My son's having a seizure. He swallowed some five year old Advil and washed it down with tainted Robitussin DM!
Why would he do that?
He left a note. Something about protecting Clark. I don't know. It says he got it from a show.
LuthorCorp. Clark walks into Oliver's office and informs him that he checked Davis' grave and that its empty. Oliver thinks someone moved the body but Clark thinks Davis crawled out of the grave himself. Olive comes to the same conclusion as Clark - the goo is alive. Clark thinks he'll will go to Chloe and Oliver asks if he warned her. Of course he did Oliver, didn't you read that in my review? Clark says he did but that she thought he was delusional. Oliver gives one of those looks of his and basically asks if Chloe is on crack. Clark asks him to find Chloe and take her somewhere safe while he goes to the FOS to do work. Oliver says he has the perfect solution to the Doomsday problem, akin to how Jimmy Hoffa was dealt with. Clark balks at that but is told that its whats best for the safety of the world. Wonderful.
How come these scenarios don't work in the real world? I mean you can't tell a cop who pulls you over that you were speeding because its best for the world. You'd get a breathalyzer test.
Anyway, Clark tells him he'll deal with Doomsday and speeds out.
Isis. Ugh. Chloe is talking to Hamilton in high definition asking him to take another look at the "sample" because there has to be a cure for the D-man. Davis isn't a foot fungus, you dolt. Doc shakes his head and tells her no can do, Davis' cells are indestructible. She asks him about his earlier idea of bringing Davis to the lab, and Doc tells her he doesn't want the "monster" anywhere near him now. I'll drink to that. And as I have a drink Chloe acts like Davis isn't a monster and that there has to be a way to keep him from transforming. I can think of a few, but they all end with Doomsday belly bumping Chloe into Mount St. Helens.
Doc tells her that Doomsday's transformation can be caused by strong emotions such as love, hate, obsession, and Skittles. Chloe starts basking in the glow of her self importance and the Doc interrupts her vanity by reminding her that Doomsday is trouble to the world and that they need to warn people. The score changes to a evil one.
"You don't want to do that. You betray me, and you betray Davis. And you sure as hell don't want to be on his bad side." - Ladies and Gentlemen.. Chloe, 7:37 PM.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
The doctor backs off but tells her that if her plan blows up its all on her. You don't watch this often now do you, Doc?
A swoosh of wind is heard and Clark asks if she was talking to someone. She lies of course. He asks if she was contacted by Oliver and she pretends to be busy. Clark doesn't move and tells her that Davis is alive and that he has proof. His awesome friend gets a concerned look on her face and tells him that when Davis resurfaces they'll hear about it. Clark's way ahead of her - he intends to find Davis and bring him to the fortress before he hurts anyone else. Chloe turns around curious. Clark explains that there's a weak signal from the FOS console and that he has the crystal Brainiac once used to release Zod, and that he plans on using it to send Davis to the Phantom Zone. Chloe's face drops and she tells Clark he can't do that to Davis. Clark rightfully reminds her that Davis has killed over 50 people and put Jimmy in the hospital and that there is nothing anyone can do for him.
You can see Chloe thinking of a rebuttal and she pretends she was talking about Clark and asks what if when he opens the portal it sucked him in too. Clark reminds her of what she said in Legion about putting the world first and she raises her tone and says that Clark (read: Davis) in the PZ isn't good for the world. Clark raises his voice and tells her that its a risk he has to take. Way to go Clark, you shut her up. Something I thought impossible without duct tape.
The liar starts thinking again, and says she can help with the search. That she's heard about a string of murders in Alaska that may be a clue where Davis is currently at. Clark thanks her and rushes off and she tells him good luck. He gives a Superman nod and speeds off while Chloe attempts to look sympathetic.
Talon. Oliver has gone over to take Chloe away. He hears a rumbling upstairs and finds Jimmy stealing money from her room. Before Jimmy can explain himself he watches Oliver get slugged by someone from behind. Its Davis, who then does the same to Jimmy.
Commercial Break. Milky Way? Pleasure You Can't Measure. Giving your company a slogan with suggestive undertones? Another unfortunate side effect of hunger. Grab a Snickers
Hey Davis. When you Doom out, know who you remind me of? Thomas the Train Engine. You know. Big round face. Huge jacked body. Dum-di-dum. What adventures are ya gonna get yourself into today, Thomas? You big oaf? Hee hee.
What the hell did you just say?!
Nothing Mr. Bloom. I have to run away now.
Lair of Doom. A groggy Oliver awakes in the Talon's basement, tied to a chair. He wakes Jimmy whom is tied just the same and asks if he's OK. Jimmy confirms. When asked who did this, Jimmy tells him that it was Davis. Fear comes over Ollie's face. As they speculate about whether Chloe's in danger, steps out of the smoke like Michael Jackson, telling them he'd never hurt Chloe - that she saved him.
Fork To The Eye Count: 27
Jimmy laughs it off and says that Chloe would never help him. Ask your white blood cells if Chloe would help him Jimmy, or has those drugs given you amnesia? Davis creepily steps forward and warns Jimmy about upsetting him. Oliver warns Jimmy as well, mentioning Davis' horns and saying that he gives new meaning to the term 'Bridezilla'. Jimmy thinks for a moment and has a moment of clarity - Davis was the beast who crashed the wedding. Everytime I remember that visual I die a little inside.
Davis gets a phone call and who else is it but Chloe who tells him she's on her way home. Davis tells her to hurry because he's losing control and Oliver yells for Chloe to stay away. The look on Davis' face is priceless, he turns to Oliver and silently looks at him like "you are so DONE when she hangs up." When asked if someone was there, Davis tells he caught two guys breaking into her apartment and that he's holding them downstairs. He says he will release as soon as they leave Smallville. Jimmy raises his head to that admission. Now.. now.. you and Oliver are finally wising up it. She's in cahoots with Davis and is not a victim at all.
Davis tells her to hurry and hangs up. No no, don't hurry Chloe. This scene is getting good. Jimmy snarls and asks Davis why did he do what he did at the wedding. Davis sits and tries to ignore him but Jimmy doesn't stop. He picks at Davis further about his childhood and laughs when Davis refuses to talk about it. Oliver is watching all of this with a worried look on his face and tells Jimmy to shut up but he screams NO and yells that Davis ruined his life and brainwashed Chloe.
Fork To The Eye Count: 30
Davis springs to his feet and tells Jimmy that he doesn't know what Chloe wants and that they have to be together. Oliver attempts to calm him again and reminds him that Chloe is going to arrive soon, and Davis states that if she doesn't get there soon that he'll kill one of them to calm down. Jimmy volunteers. I really don't like where this is going.
Jimmy asks if he's human and Davis starts to lose it, but then he says the magic words - that Chloe could never love him. Davis grabs his head and starts squeezing, his eyes turning red. Oliver yells for Davis to stop, reminding him that Chloe wouldn't forgive him for killing Jimmy. Davis calms a little, but punches Jimmy out. Sorry Jimmy, you had that one coming. What were you thinking?
Davis turns to Oliver and tells him that he was right, that killing Jimmy would be crossing the line - which only leaves him. He grabs Oliver by the throat and squeezes. Just then Clark shows up to the Talon. He sees Chloe's bedroom door ajar and superhears around him. Hearing Oliver being choked by Davis, Clark speeds off through the door and down the stairs, grabbing Davis and swinging him to a water heater. When asked about Chloe, Davis refuses to answer and for that Clark swings him around and shoulder charges him out of the building. That was a pretty cool special effects moment. This would be my second favorite scene of the episode here. But to be honest, I only liked four scenes.
Commercial Break. Hi, uh, is this 1-800-Pet-Meds? Yeah, man. Listen, I got a horse and he REALLY needs tranquilizers. Lots of 'em! Please! Come on! Look, look. Don't hang up. Fine. I don't have a horse, but I REALLY NEED HORSE TRANQUILIZERS! PLEASE! Hello? Hello?! HELLO?!??!?
Hey, man. I think Lana has a disease or something, she doesn't look like herself.
That's because its Chloe you idiot.
Oh is it? Damn. I never heard of that before. Is it contagious?
Talon. Chloe shows up too late and the coffee shop is full of black suits sent by Oliver. Jimmy is rolled out on a stretcher and she acts concerned and comes over to him, but Jimmy refuses to look at her. Doctor Hamilton is also there and he gives her a dirty look then says that Jimmy and Oliver are lucky to be alive. Me thinks the doctor told Oliver about Chloe's game. She looks down at Jimmy and tells him she's sorry, the score gives a evil note as she grabs his arm. OH don't you TOUCH him. Don't even TALK to him after the junk you pulled.
As soon as she touches Jimmy he gives her a contemptuous look, then tells her that whatever she does to stay away from the monster. The doc then rolls Jimmy away. That was great how the both of them looked disgusted at her, but the oh my friends, the fun is just beginning. Oliver walks over and he definitely is not a jolly green giant.
"You know Chloe, I thought about calling the police. Instead I thought I'd give you a chance to explain yourself before I let them haul you off to prison for harboring a serial killer." - Oliver Queen, the way to say hello, 7:42 PM.
Hell yes Oliver! Chloe, your response?
"I shouldn't have left Davis here alone, this never would have happened if I were here. Its all my fault."
Boy if her head got any bigger she'd be float in the Thanksgiving Day parade. You're not getting it Chloe, thats not the point. The point is that you shouldn't have had the guy there in the FIRST place. When she turns to face Oliver he has a unforgiving stare on his face.
"When did you become one of the bad guys, huh?" Oliver, laying the smack down, 7:43 PM.
Chloe looks down and tries to explain her reasoning, telling him that she calms the beast inside Davis and he needed her. Oliver snarls at that last part and and bites out "He needed you?" Then tells her that the need of a serial kill out-wayed the needs of the world. Chloe tells him its complicated and tries to walk past him but he blocks her path and yells out that her psycho boyfriend also said its complicated. She gets panicky and tells him that either she stays with Davis or let innocent people die. Oliver spits out "Come ON" and its not just what he said but the way he said it. Such disbelief.. such mockery. He isn't falling for any of her manipulative lies.
"Chloe if you really believed that you would have handled things a little bit differently, don't you think? But instead, what do you do? You cook him dinner, you fluff his pillows, you ROCK HIM TO SLEEP!" - The TRUTH, by Oliver Queen, 7:43 PM.
I almost choke laughing. Chloe tears up at Oliver's relentless onslaught. She cries that she knows how it looks on the outside but to trust that she has everything under control. Does Mike Tyson have to bite her damn ear off before she realizes how delusional she sounds!!?? Oliver yells behind her that she has nothing under control and that speaking as Davis' next victim her plan flat out sucked. She stops and stares off into space. Hearkening back to what Davis asked her in her dream, Oliver asks her 'how did she think this was going to end'.
She frowns and tells him that she'll find Davis and fix everything. Oliver ends that stupidity right then and there by telling her that she won't fix a thing. That she's done enough, and that Clark is handling things now. Chloe runs behind him asking where's Clark. Oh don't tell her Oliver, she's not to be trusted. Good. He only told her that Clark took Davis away. Then smiled and walked off in delight. Badass! BEST scene of the episode. So many quotable parts. Oliver just trashed Chloe for the entire scene. I remember thinking "Am I in heaven? Is this really happening?" It was so beautiful that it almost brought a tear to my eye. Almost. ::sips a beer and gives a Superman nod::
Almost.
Fortress of <S>Solitude</S>. Clark speeds in with Davis and just flings him to the ground. Davis growls as he gets to his feet and challenges Clark to a fight. As they circle each other, Clark says he didn't bring him there to fight. That the Fortress is a place that can help him, and that he could be sent to a place where he wouldn't have to hide who he is anymore.
"A world without Chloe.." - Davis, spoiling my Zatanna wish, 7:46 PM. In time my precious, in time.
Davis' face Dooms out as he thinks about it, and he growls that he's having none of that. Clark says if he really cared about Chloe he'd let her go. Davis corrects him that it was Chloe's idea to skip town. Can we have one damn scene that doesn't mention her name!?? Is that too much to ask? In quite possibly one of the worst statements this season, Clark says that Chloe would skip town with anyone.. that she believes in giving people second chances, but that she doesn't really have feelings for him.
Fork To The Eye Count: 50 and counting.
NO she wouldn't just run off with anyone, Clark. This is more than just her being nice. Only a lunatic or Britney Spears would skip town for just any ole person. Davis starts whining about never wanting any of this but that being around Chloe makes him feel human. Ha ha this is all so hilarious. I'm going to kill everybody.
Clark stares at Davis and calmly walks over and grabs a crystal and asks Davis what would happen if Chloe isn't around anymore. Davis tells him that won't ever happen, that Chloe's his chance to be happy and why won't his kryptonian brother let him have that. Clark walks to the console and tells him that he was wrong - they aren't brothers. But before he could insert the crystal he is grabbed by Davis and tossed him through a part of the fortress.
Clark gets up and warns that he doesn't want to hurt him, and after some smack talk by Davis, Clark knocks him out. He then walks over and stabs the console with the crystal, opening a portal. Davis sees this and says that if he's going to the PZ, he's taking Clark with him. They wrestle for a little.. before the portal closes. Davis looks shocked, Clark looks confused, I clench my jaw.
Reveal Chloe, standing by the console, holding the octagon key.
She tells Clark she can't let him do this, then takes out the crystal and closes the portal.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
8. Prevents Doomsday from being sent to a prison where he could never hurt any human again.
I.. I'm just going to count backwards from ten now. And then I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Clark tells her its the right then to do and to trust him.
"Trust you? Clark, the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe you would force him into a life of hell for all eternity." - where is a eighteen wheeler running over her, backing up, and running over her again when you need one, 7:49PM
I'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. Its not working. I'm losing it.
She tells him that she knows him better than anyone and that she can't let him do this. That he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis. And with the emasculation of Clark Kent complete, she gives him a scolding look and leaves with Davis, and Clark just stood there and watched, and did nothing. Nothing.
::::Rant Alert::::
You know whats unforgiving Chloe!? Your BREATH is unforgiving!! Who the hell are you to come to the FOS and tell Clark what he should feel and how he should feel it when you're the cause for ALL of this! Those are YOUR feelings that you are trying to project on Clark. Its you and ONLY you who don't want Doomsday in the phantom zone, you twit! Why didn't Clark punt her to a small moon!? She's practically begged for it! Disgusting. This scene sucked.
Oh the beer is all gone people, GONE! And the fork to the eye count has passed 100.
Commercial Break. "Yo man, I'm getting crazy visuals. The clouds are like melting. Whoaaa. Yo this is sick. I just popped a bag of skittles. You sure you didn't put anything in them? Whoaaa. Taste the Rainbow, man. The Rainbow."
LuthorCorp. While Oliver is changing his desktop to a shirtless pic of himself, Jimmy walks in asking if they have any leads on Doomsday. Sorry Jimbo, no word on Dooms. The score gets a 7th Heaven tune to it and its time for a pep talk. Oliver points out that the demon Jimmy should be fighting is inside of him, not Davis. Jimmy objects and Oliver backs off and offers him a check for the money he asked for earlier. Thinking it over, Jimmy declines the handout. Oliver says its no handout, its a paycheck. He did a background check on Jimmy and was impressed, and for that Jimmy gets his own office and a place on Oliver's company? That easy?
Jimmy calls himself a mediocre photographer and says he's no hero, but Oliver thinks he is. He commends him for figuring out that Davis was the serial killer before anyone else and for taking him on - and that his good instincts are enough for him. Thats nice of you Oliver but I had the same question Jimmy had - whats the catch? None, except that it's a full time gig and he'll have a lot of work. The scene ends on a handshake and finally a smile by Jimmy. Good scene. I'm intrigue by where this is going. While I have reservations about Jimmy getting involved with the JL, I could stomach that a hhhhhhhhhhhell of a lot more than Chloe.
Isis. This is most likely the last scene ever for this set. So I guess I should take a moment and reflect on the good things that came from Isis.
...... Can't think of a damn thing. Oh well I tried. Good riddance.
Clark is checking out some satellite images and hears footsteps behind him. He turns and watches, hoping that its Chloe. But its Oliver, and Clark rolls his eyes and walks back to the computer. Oliver looks at him disapointed. You know its coming... there it goes...
"If you're looking for Chloe you're wasting your time Clark. But I guess thats what you do best, isn't it?" - Oliver, as only Oliver could, 7:55 PM.
Burn! I knew he was going to be pissed that Clark just let Chloe and Davis walk out of the FOS, and I don't blame Oliver for that. That was a ridiculous move on Clark's end. Anyway, Clark ignores him and stares at the computer screens with a fierce concentration. Oliver walks up to him and makes clear that Chloe's gone and doesn't want to be found. Clark's response to that is that Davis must have done something to Chloe because she wouldn't have lied to him if she wasn't trapped.
Fork To The Eye Count: 101, 102, 103...
Trapped? She was at Isis, alone! She was out driving.. alone! With Lois.. ALONE! What does she have to do for him to admit that it was her and just her who was deciding to do ALL of this??
Oliver responds that she can't resist Davis, that he has real feelings for her. Clark's answer? Whatever Davis feels for her, Chloe would never care about him. Un-believable. Oliver stares at the side of his head and if he could, Clark would be on the ground about now. Oliver spells it out for him, that she led him a wild goose chase while she kept the monster in her basement and that she obviously is attracted to Davis. Still in denial, Clark thinks she would never choose Davis over her friends. Oliver tells him that people change and so should he. That he should have Doomsday when he had the chance.
"Clark, I know you want to save everybody, but eventually you're going to have to make the tough decisions. Its what heroes do." - Upcoming foreshadowing, 7:57PM.
The same song from the teaser starts playing and Clark gets a phone call. Its Chloe calling from a gas station, with Davis inside the store buying who the hell cares. Like the drama queen she is, she calls him up just to say not to come after them, and that they are fine. Instead of hanging up the phone and watching river dancing, Clark starts bargaining with her not to do this. She says she knows everyone thinks she's crazy but that she knows what she's doing and if she told him earlier she knew he'd find a way to stop them so she didn't.
Clarks asks her to admit she's doing this because she's in love with Davis but nuh uh, its all for you Clark. The whole sha-bang. Twice he tells her she's wrong, and vows to save her but she wants him to save everyone not just her. That she finally found a way to save him, and that choosing the greater good is never sacrificing. Don't mind me everyone, I'm just coughing blood. He tries again to reach her but she hangs up in his face, and he smashes a nearbye cabinet in frustration.
Davis walks to his car and hands Chloe a heart shaped candy filled, then they ride off together to end the episode.
All in All: I usually give a summery of every character to end these reviews but I'll just summarize the episode below.
I don't even know where to begin. Did I expect it to be as good as Stiletto? No. Did I expect this writer to write a convincing story? She wrote Progeny also, which I didn't like, so no. But I don't think I was quite prepared for this. There was some epic b.s. in this episode. Epic.
Did I accurately describe how Chloe protects Clark and the world? Did that sound like someone who has sound judgement? No, not at all. But this writer really tried to pull this junk on us.
There was prime Lana-fying in this episode. One woman manipulating everyone (except Oliver), and having them all making excuses for her as if she isn't responsible for any of this. It was she who locked the basement door. She tossed the body bags in the dumpster. She was the who suggested they leave Smallville. She threatened the doctor. Chloe is NOT an innocent party is this. She's been manipulating the situation and everyone involved the whole time.
Let me tell you exactly what all of this is about. Vanity.
Chloe likes being needed, likes the attention that it brings to her, and likes being the center of attention. As she told Oliver, Davis needed her.. and for that, she risks the safety of everyone. For that, she saw fit to wreck Clark's plan of putting the most dangerous alien she's even known in the one place he belongs. For that, she flees with Davis and forsakes everyone who ever loved her. She isn't doing this for Davis' own good as she's trying to fool him and herself, and she sure as hell isn't doing this for Clark and the world's good. There is NOTHING good about leaving this beast around on Earth except that it keeps the guy who is obsessed with Chloe around her and feeds her ego. This is ALL about Chloe.
The most frustrating thing about this episode was that, despite all the evidence against her, Clark refused to see it until the very end where I think he wised up and saw through her. I'm not with Oliver on the killing issue since it would be pointless anyways (and Clark had the right idea in sending Dooms to the PZ), but everything else in this episode? I'm with Oliver 100%. And he's the only guy who didn't fall for Chloe's crocodile tears or ridiculous excuses to why she did what she did. He was a breath of fresh air in this episode.
I'm glad this druggie arc with Jimmy is over with because this episode pushed me on the side that is firmly against any of this. His suicide routine this episode had me banging my head against the wall. I guess the point was to show him hitting rock bottom, but I don't ever want to see Jimmy like this ever again.
I liked the hostage scene, loved the Ollie/Chloe confrontation, liked most of the Oliver/Jimmy stuff. But thats it. Clark was barely in this and when he was there Chloe played him like a violin. And the ending to the FOS scene made it one of the worst scenes of this season.
Denise Richard's singing > this episode. 5 out of 10. Just as worse as Eternal, and almost approached Requiem's level.
Next week. Tess is getting the band back together, but are they old enough to vote?
HeroesUnlimited
05-02-2009, 08:13 PM
Guess it depends on your definition of a monster. To me, Lex has always seemed morally grey, even to the end.
He is driven by human desires, and yes those desires come from the evil side of human nature, and yes acting upon them is wrong, but I don't think it makes you a monster. To me 'monster' is indicative of a being without reason, without a life.
I would describe anyone capable of cold-blooded murder as a "monster".
MOD EDIT
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 08:30 PM
I would describe anyone capable of cold-blooded murder as a "monster".
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So whether or not a character "deserves" to be "defended" depends on how much or how little fan support they receive?!!? Why does that even matter? Why not judge them on their own merits?
That's true. I agree. :P
So whether or not a character "deserves" to be "defended" depends on how much or how little fan support they receive?!!? Why does that even matter? Why not judge them on their own merits?
Gotta say I agree. I don't understand that logic myself. :confused:
Oh, and before I forget: Great reviews everyone! My favorite reviews so far have been Jade's, it was very insightful! Guthrie it was very fair! and Cedric it was very funny!
Violet-Shadow
05-02-2009, 08:59 PM
Oh FallenOne, your reviews make SV funny...and episodes without Lois really need some humor. Seriously, these reviews have become a staple in my SV diet.
IA with you about Oliver, speaking some sense, and I too am grateful that Jimmy's-a-drug-addict arc is over. I also agree about the basis of Chloe's actions to a certain extent - though I do think that she thinks she's doing it for Clark but is, in actuality, playing the fool (which is also playing the martyr, as you pointed out in different words). My dislike regarding Chloe is focused on her actions while you seem to intently dislike her as a character. Have you always?
As always, great review. Love your humor and your introspection.
I gave the episode a seven because I love Jimmy and Oliver's pretty...how sad am I? But ZERO for the Chlavis storyline.
Denegation 15
05-02-2009, 09:12 PM
I dunno. I didn't like how Jimmy's drug addiction ended in one episode. They made this huge problem one episode long. :cool:
melissan02
05-02-2009, 09:12 PM
Oh Cedric! I could hardly wait for this review...and you didn't disappoint! Bravo!
Thats the sickest visual this show has done, well.. besides Lana in a powersuit. :lol:This wasn't my first laugh from your review, but I had to quote this one because it was too good not to!
She thinks for a moment and rats out that Oliver killed Lex, drawing a reaction from the Doc. This made me so mad! Typical defensive reaction though when a guilty person wants to deflect the blame off of themself!
"..And the stakes are too high to have someone involved who can't think clearly." - Holy.. crap, 7:17PM. My God! Oh the irony of that statement!
"You don't want to do that. You betray me, and you betray Davis. And you sure as hell don't want to be on his bad side." - Ladies and Gentlemen.. Chloe, 7:37 PM. Threatening the Doc! Just horrible!
Clark raises his voice and tells her that its a risk he has to take. Way to go Clark, you shut her up. I was so proud of Clark in this scene w/ Chloe! If only for a brief moment....I was still proud of him!
"When did you become one of the bad guys, huh?" Oliver, laying the smack down, 7:43 PM. Best line of the episode IMO! I loved Oliver's smackdown in this scene! I was about ready to pull out my green pom-poms and start cheering for the Green Arrow!:D
Oliver just trashed Chloe for the entire scene. She deserved it for her irrational behavior and decision making. Something tells me that Oliver Queen is gonna give the Watchtower a pink slip before too long!;)
"A world without Chloe.." - Davis, spoiling my Zatanna wish, 7:46 PM. In time my precious, in time. :rotfl:
She tells him that she knows him better than anyone and that she can't let him do this. That he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis. And with the emasculation of Clark Kent complete, she gives him a scolding look and leaves with Davis, and Clark just stood there and watched, and did nothing. Nothing. I swear Cedric, I'm with you on this one! I wanted to ram my head into my television at Chloe's scolding of Clark! How dare she! I half expected her to bend him over her knee and give him a spanking for attempting to send precious, pitiful Davis to the PZ! Good grief!
"Clark, I know you want to save everybody, but eventually you're going to have to make the tough decisions. Its what heroes do." - Upcoming foreshadowing, 7:57PM. And so the stage is set.......;)
Great review! You never fail to make me laugh!
borednow
05-02-2009, 09:52 PM
Bravo! Cedric Bravo!
SGuthrie27
05-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Thanks, Ella! I do try to be fair to all the characters, as much as I can anyway. And Cedric, indeed, your reviews never cease to disappoint, even if we're obviously on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to the Chloe-love department. ;) Though are your eyes okay after all those fork moments? :p I just noticed how you crossed out the "Solitude" in "Fortress of," LOL! Very subtle, and you're right about that. Clark clearly needs a better security system in his private den of superherodom.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
LoveHurts38
05-02-2009, 10:19 PM
Cedric loved your review since I skipped the episode....but, I might watch Injustice for TW who directed**smile**I am happy that Skittles was back...lol...and I do Love Oliver....No wonder Lois was in love with him.
patrese
05-02-2009, 10:23 PM
Acteon,
Thanks for the welcome!
ginnyfan
05-02-2009, 10:29 PM
Wow Cedric. Your review has shown me that it's possible to laugh really hard while your heart is breaking.
I admit that I was confused, very confused by Chloe's behavior in "Beast." But your review really... wow. It was like watching Chloe Sullivan die. It really was. I cried. Seriously. I laughed a lot too 'cause you're really funny.
You know what got me? The lists. The lists of the ways Chloe has been protecting Clark all season. :mad: I've always... given Chloe the benefit of the doubt. I could see the parallels to the whole Zod/Lex/Clark/Lana stuff.... and even Lana/Bizarro... but... I still gave Chloe the benefit of the doubt. But this review... it hurts.
It hurts because this stuff is rooted in Chloe's faults for the entire run of the show. Her desire to be important to Clark... among other things. Just as when Lana did a lot of the crazy stuff she's done in the past it was rooted in her VICTIM issues. It's like... instead of letting a character grow and mature... Smallville lets the characters... fester!
I just... I'm really sad.
*goes to read Starry Dawn's review on LJ again*
:(
superjude
05-02-2009, 10:51 PM
Cedric, Another great review. I liked the episode more than you did, but then I missed bits and pieces due to family interruptions and having to make sure that my kids didn't see bad nightmare stuff, and stupid actions from certain characters. But, I do have to agree with you pretty much on everything that you said about Chloe and her actions. Others seem convinced that she really did do this for Clark, but I find myself agreeing more with you (and I happen to like Chloe most of the time). As for the reason that Clark didn't do anything at the Fortress, IMO, is that Chloe actually stunned him and he was so stunned by her actions that he couldn't move. I know that I was livid and wanted to reach in and grab her and shake some much needed sense into her brain, but I could see Clark just standing there stunned like a BDA shocked by what she just did and said. I cheered Oliver on when he was confronting the "bad Gal" Chloe.
And, I have to say that I just loved it when Clark "Hulk Smashed" the crap out of that pink filing cabinet though. Pink is so not my thing.
amalie
05-02-2009, 11:46 PM
Great review yet again Cedric. I've been waiting for your view on this one. Althogh it took me so long to read the site logged me out :lol:
joemamma
05-02-2009, 11:51 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!
Cedric, man, I gotta admit, your reviews are one of the MAIN reasons I even visit K-site.
Spot on, brother.
amalie
05-02-2009, 11:58 PM
Has Cloisthelegendbegins (Annie) posted her review yet? Her posts are always enlightening, they're definitely worth a read.
gardenia
05-03-2009, 04:36 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!
Cedric, man, I gotta admit, your reviews are one of the MAIN reasons I even visit K-site.
Spot on, brother.
Ditto :p
smallv17
05-03-2009, 05:20 AM
"Trust you? Clark, the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe you would force him into a life of hell for all eternity." - where is a eighteen wheeler running over her, backing up, and running over her again when you need one, 7:49PM
I'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. Its not working. I'm losing it.
She tells him that she knows him better than anyone and that she can't let him do this. That he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis. And with the emasculation of Clark Kent complete, she gives him a scolding look and leaves with Davis, and Clark just stood there and watched, and did nothing. Nothing.
THANK YOU cedric!! Thank you from my heart. You expressed excactly what I felt about this scene and particularly this line.
That was one of the worst lines of season 8. Chloe had no right to accuse Clark for feelings he would't even have, for actions that weren't even wrong.
I felt that everytime she tried to convince everybody that she was protecting Clark, she was saying it just to convince herself.
And what made me more angry was the fact that I knew Clark was right, Clark knew he was right about the PZ but yet SHE made him question his own intentions, creating an artificial guilt as an excuse for her actions.
Although I liked Beast in general, that scene infuriated me.
This writer shouldn't write another episode.
cma_454
05-03-2009, 06:57 AM
Wow Cedric. Your review has shown me that it's possible to laugh really hard while your heart is breaking.
I admit that I was confused, very confused by Chloe's behavior in "Beast." But your review really... wow. It was like watching Chloe Sullivan die. It really was. I cried. Seriously. I laughed a lot too 'cause you're really funny.
You know what got me? The lists. The lists of the ways Chloe has been protecting Clark all season. :mad: I've always... given Chloe the benefit of the doubt. I could see the parallels to the whole Zod/Lex/Clark/Lana stuff.... and even Lana/Bizarro... but... I still gave Chloe the benefit of the doubt. But this review... it hurts.
It hurts because this stuff is rooted in Chloe's faults for the entire run of the show. Her desire to be important to Clark... among other things. Just as when Lana did a lot of the crazy stuff she's done in the past it was rooted in her VICTIM issues. It's like... instead of letting a character grow and mature... Smallville lets the characters... fester!
I just... I'm really sad.
*goes to read Starry Dawn's review on LJ again* :(
I've (sadly) got to agree with you ginnyfan, and you Cedric.
For all the criticism I had for Clark’s repeated inability to see Lana’s flaws, and his constant blaming of everyone but Lana (usually himself) for all her ‘questionable’ actions, it’s a bit humbling to find that I have been doing much the same concerning Chloe.
While I’ve reached nowhere near Cedric’s level of disgust, I do now understand it.
We so often use intentions to determine good or evil, but I think this is wrong. True intentions very difficult to ascertain, and (in the real world) many of history’s most evil people had (at least as rationalized in their own minds) what they considered ‘good intentions’. There’s a reason they say, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
IMHO, the only way to accurately determine if a person is (overall) good or bad is to go by their actions. As there are very few totally good or totally evil people, the totality of there actions the must be considered. It’s not just about numbers, but seriousness. I.e.: 20 years of rescuing stranded kittens and helping little old ladies across the street would not, IMHO, balance out one cold blooded murder (I’d consider that person bad, or evil).
Sadly, when forced to view Chloe by these standards, there’s no way to consider her a ‘good’ person, in totality.
I won’t discuss her motivations. Not only have they purposely been left ambiguous, but I don’t think they matter.
Chloe is harboring and protecting a monster (in every sense of the word). A monster that has killed before, many times. Worse, she protected him at a time when Clark could have sent him to the PZ, saving his future victims.
Now maybe TPTB, have a way to make this all turn out right with Chloe (although I can see no way). Barring that, I reluctantly find myself going over to the ‘Dark Side’ (aka the Cedric side) with regards to my view of Chloe (not nearly as far to that side as Cedric, but I have crossed the line).
I do still hope TPTB can turn this all around…
mrw66855
05-03-2009, 07:49 AM
Friends Finale - by Genevieve Sparling
Scene opens in the sitting area of Central Perk. Phoebe, Joey, and Ross are seated.
Ross: So, that's it. I've had enough of denying myself of the things I want. Today, I'm going to tell Rachel that I want her in my life and can't live without her. It's the best thing to do.
Joey: Ooo! You know the best thing to do? Mix peanut butter and tuna. Mmmmm.
Laugh Track - Rachel enters
Ross: Uh, Rach? I was wondering if I could talk to you?
Rachel: (Excited) Oh Ross, just wait one second. I wanted to introduce you all to someone I've just met. She's incredible. Chloe?
Chloe, dressed in all black, turns around and walks over to the group
Ross: Thats... your new friend..?
Chloe: (Shake hands with everyone individually) Hi there. I'm the Chloe. Nice to meet you. The Chloe - that's me. Hi there. Chloe here.
Ross: I know it's soon, but I'm madly in love with her. Oh, I've never felt this way before.
Chloe: Thats because you never met someone like me.
Phoebe: Oh my gosh! You're right!
Rachel: Isn't she something else?
Joey: I'll say. She's just what this finale needs.
Chloe: Well I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but yeah.. it kinda does.
Phoebe: How selfless of you!
Laugh Track - Chandler and Monica enter the room. They are holding their newly adopted baby - played by Davis
Chandler: Well, it's official! We have a baby! Here's the little guy now.
Applause
Baby (Davis): Goo goo. Gaa gaa.
Joey: Aw, isn't he cute. Does the little fella need to be changed?
Baby (Davis): Listen Jack, the only thing I need is Chloe.
Chandler: (noticing Chloe) Whoa! Who's that awesome lady?
Joey: That's Chloe! She's mine!
Chloe: Now now fellas, there's plenty of Chloe to go around.
Laugh Track.
Monica: Normally, I'd be upset that my husband is leaving me, but this woman's awesome! Can she be any more awesome?
Phoebe: I know. I think I'm falling in love with you too.
Joey: But Phoebe, you just got married!
Phoebe: Screw that. This woman's amazing.
Laugh Track
Rachel: Everything worked out. We all have a new great friend. I guess this group isn't ever splitting up.
Clark: Ahh Ahhhhh ahhhhhhhhhh!!
Lois: Clark, Clark, Wake up! Wake up! You're dreaming again!
Clark: Oh my God. Oh my God. Lois. Oh, it’s just you. Oh it was terrible. They were all there. Chloe kept smiling, but not really smiling and all cast of friends were holding hands. They were jumping rope and singing "1,2,3...Chloe likes me." Then when I objected Peterson ran up behind me and hit my leg with a crowbar.
Lois: Shhh. It’s ok, Clark. I warned you that smelling sauce was really paint. Now breathe over here by the fan. You’ll be ok.
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Yep, its gonna be that type of review. Maybe it doesn't need to be this way. I could discuss Rosanne's 6th personality. What? You wanna know about this week's episode of Smallville? Sigh.. You don't want that.. really.. OK.. I warned ya...
Previously ON!
Davis hurt everyone but the right person. Tasering is the new coke formula. Chloe was dumped like a bedpan. Stand back, there's a retcon coming through! Watchtower became a bad punchline. I laughed at inner demons.
The music of angst starts us off and who else but Chloe is on screen. She attempts to get some sleep but a phone call interupts her. Its Davis who is scared because he had another nightmare. Doomsday had a nightmare.
Gotta get some beers. Be right back {1 minute later} Let us proceed.
He asks her to come downstairs because he doesn't want to be alone and she goes a'runnin. Soon as she opens the basement door she sees a single rose pedel on the step. Looking further she notices the hundreds more on the remaining steps. How romantic. Doomsday is romantic.
Fork To The Eye Count: 1
She walks down the stairs grinning and they flirt a little. Davis had to leave the basement to buy the flowers and she didn't think that was a bright idea. He gives her a rose and that makes it all better. He thanks her for all she's done and she tells him not to mention it, friends help each other. Davis raises a eyebrow.
"Friends help you move. They take you to the airport - you can't think thats really all this is." - Davis, 7:04 PM
Brushing that off, she tells him that it doesn't change their relationship. More mushy talk from Davis finishing with him telling her that the feelings they share are real. She tries to squirm out of there but he corners her and asks her to stay the night with him. That.. without her, he wouldn't exist. Only Chloe would dream about someone telling her that without her they wouldn't exist. Thats right up her ego alley.
Fork To The Eye Count: 14
They kiss and I close my eyes and envision myself riding through the Talon on my motorcycle, tossing a grenade. After they break their embrace, she notices something behind Davis. The music turns to a eery score as she sees a trail of blood leading someone in the basement. She asks Davis is that blood and he answers 'what did she think would happen?' She follows the trail until it ends behind a curtain. When she pulls it back she screams and sees the bloodied corpse of Clark, half his body ripped off, and hanging from a pipe. Thats the sickest visual this show has done, well.. besides Lana in a powersuit. Chloe wakes up, it was just a nightmare. What a coincidence, my nightmare is just starting.
Opening Credits. I'm sorry there must be some kind of mistake, why is Clark the first character?
Talon. Chloe's making a cappuccino and spills some when Clark walks in on her. Getting down to bizzness, Clark hands her a copy of the the latest DP paper. Offscreen Tess has decided to run the serial killer story on Davis; his photo with a police manhunt searching for him is seen. Chloe ignores it and tells Clark the D-man is dead, but he's not so sure. The body of Ugly's thug from last week was found in a dumpster, torn apart. All of this is clearly Davis' M.O.. Clark further says that the body was found after Davis was killed, and that he's come back from the dead before. Logical right? Well, all you see in this scene is a ball of blonde hair swinging from the left to the right for a solid minute as Chloe denies everything Clark says. She spins it into Clark just being paranoid and scared.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
Ace of Clubs. Oliver is in a meeting with some suits discussing ways for Luthorcorp to go Green. Oh.. oh, I get it. Funny, show. Jimmy walks in, nervously looking around like he just ate bean dip. He asks Oliver if they could talk for a spell - and that it was for an important reason. Oliver excuses himself and what does he get asked? He's asked for $600 so that Jimmy could pay a mechanic for his car troubles. If looks could kill.
This kinda reminded me of a particular moment that was spoiled by the father of this high school hottie of mine. He interrupted our kiss and told her that it was for an important reason as well. His reason? So that she could get his gun. I got the message, and ran home.
Oliver brings up Jimmy's job as a Bartender, but he says he's been laid off. Having enough, Ollie just comes out and confronts him about being an addict. Jimmy denies it, but the red eyes, bags, 5 O'clock shadow, and weird behavaior kinda gives it away. To his credit, Oliver does offer to put Jimmy through rehab and pay for the tab himself.
Yes Oliver, but do they have ESPN? Didn't think so.
Jimmy isn't having any of this and he walks off, giving Oliver a shoulder brush in the process. Oliver calls after him and tells him that he going down a lonely path and that he is a friend Jimmy could talk to, but that he won't give him money for drugs. Jimmy guilts him about it, saying that he thought they were friends but since Oliver doesn't trust him they aren't.
Parking lot. Thats the best I can do, cause I have no idea where the hell they are. But its Chloe and Dr. Hamilton talking in his car. She's just confessed to him that she has Davis in her basement. He asks who else knows this info and she says no one, not even Oliver because she can't trust him. Doc tells her that Oliver created the League to deal with these types of problems. She thinks for a moment and rats out that Oliver killed Lex, drawing a reaction from the Doc. She continues.
"..And the stakes are too high to have someone involved who can't think clearly." - Holy.. crap, 7:17PM.
OLIVER'S the one who isn't thinking clearly??? And scheming behind the boss' back does not a Watchtower make. She describes Davis' condition as an infection, and tells him that he's the only one who can find a cure. He doesn't think he can do anything with Davis' saliva (there's a water bottle of Davis' that she apparently took), and he wants to see Davis in person. When thats denied he says he'll run tests anyway to see what he can find.
As she exits the car, a near-beasting Davis walks up to her and asks who was the guy in the car. She ushers him to a wall, tells him it was just a friend, and asks him whats wrong since he shouldn't be outside. He tells her that nothing works to calm him now. That he's tried looking at photos of her and holding locks of her hair, but that its to the point where as soon as she leaves his presence he Dooms out. That.. he can't be away from her now.
Fork To The Eye Count: 17
Talon. Davis holds a copy of the Daily Planet headline that calls for the manhunt of him - the cornfield killer. Chloe's voice is heard as she explains that she didn't want to tell him about it because it would upset him, and that the police are hunting for him which is why he needed to stay indoors. Davis looks shaken up and tells her that by accepting her help he's placed her in trouble with the law as well. She tells him that she won't let anyone find him. He asks what will happen if the cops find her, and she declares that they'll skip town as fugitives. Davis looks up in surprise and I take another sip of beer.
Davis tells her she's done enough for him and that he can't ask her to run away with, but she tells him that its her decision. He gets up to think then tells her that she wouldn't be able to say goodbye to Clark or anyone, and asks would she do that, is Davis that important to her? She thinks it over and tells him that she would do anything for him. He looks convinced and tells her that they should leave today. She looks taken aback as if she didn't expect to leave so soon, but tells him that she has to close some accounts and make sure no one can find them, then they'll leave at sun down. I thought it was all over but he had to tell her once more that he doesn't know what he would do without her.
Fork To The Eye Count: 22
Commercial Break. "Hi." Hi. "Is Chloe there?" No. "Sorry. I must have the wrong number" - When Doomsday Calls - Rated PG-13. Opens everywhere on May 14th.
Hello? 911? Please send help! My son's having a seizure. He swallowed some five year old Advil and washed it down with tainted Robitussin DM!
Why would he do that?
He left a note. Something about protecting Clark. I don't know. It says he got it from a show.
LuthorCorp. Clark walks into Oliver's office and informs him that he checked Davis' grave and that its empty. Oliver thinks someone moved the body but Clark thinks Davis crawled out of the grave himself. Olive comes to the same conclusion as Clark - the goo is alive. Clark thinks he'll will go to Chloe and Oliver asks if he warned her. Of course he did Oliver, didn't you read that in my review? Clark says he did but that she thought he was delusional. Oliver gives one of those looks of his and basically asks if Chloe is on crack. Clark asks him to find Chloe and take her somewhere safe while he goes to the FOS to do work. Oliver says he has the perfect solution to the Doomsday problem, akin to how Jimmy Hoffa was dealt with. Clark balks at that but is told that its whats best for the safety of the world. Wonderful.
How come these scenarios don't work in the real world? I mean you can't tell a cop who pulls you over that you were speeding because its best for the world. You'd get a breathalyzer test.
Anyway, Clark tells him he'll deal with Doomsday and speeds out.
Isis. Ugh. Chloe is talking to Hamilton in high definition asking him to take another look at the "sample" because there has to be a cure for the D-man. Davis isn't a foot fungus, you dolt. Doc shakes his head and tells her no can do, Davis' cells are indestructible. She asks him about his earlier idea of bringing Davis to the lab, and Doc tells her he doesn't want the "monster" anywhere near him now. I'll drink to that. And as I have a drink Chloe acts like Davis isn't a monster and that there has to be a way to keep him from transforming. I can think of a few, but they all end with Doomsday belly bumping Chloe into Mount St. Helens.
Doc tells her that Doomsday's transformation can be caused by strong emotions such as love, hate, obsession, and Skittles. Chloe starts basking in the glow of her self importance and the Doc interrupts her vanity by reminding her that Doomsday is trouble to the world and that they need to warn people. The score changes to a evil one.
"You don't want to do that. You betray me, and you betray Davis. And you sure as hell don't want to be on his bad side." - Ladies and Gentlemen.. Chloe, 7:37 PM.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
The doctor backs off but tells her that if her plan blows up its all on her. You don't watch this often now do you, Doc?
A swoosh of wind is heard and Clark asks if she was talking to someone. She lies of course. He asks if she was contacted by Oliver and she pretends to be busy. Clark doesn't move and tells her that Davis is alive and that he has proof. His awesome friend gets a concerned look on her face and tells him that when Davis resurfaces they'll hear about it. Clark's way ahead of her - he intends to find Davis and bring him to the fortress before he hurts anyone else. Chloe turns around curious. Clark explains that there's a weak signal from the FOS console and that he has the crystal Brainiac once used to release Zod, and that he plans on using it to send Davis to the Phantom Zone. Chloe's face drops and she tells Clark he can't do that to Davis. Clark rightfully reminds her that Davis has killed over 50 people and put Jimmy in the hospital and that there is nothing anyone can do for him.
You can see Chloe thinking of a rebuttal and she pretends she was talking about Clark and asks what if when he opens the portal it sucked him in too. Clark reminds her of what she said in Legion about putting the world first and she raises her tone and says that Clark (read: Davis) in the PZ isn't good for the world. Clark raises his voice and tells her that its a risk he has to take. Way to go Clark, you shut her up. Something I thought impossible without duct tape.
The liar starts thinking again, and says she can help with the search. That she's heard about a string of murders in Alaska that may be a clue where Davis is currently at. Clark thanks her and rushes off and she tells him good luck. He gives a Superman nod and speeds off while Chloe attempts to look sympathetic.
Talon. Oliver has gone over to take Chloe away. He hears a rumbling upstairs and finds Jimmy stealing money from her room. Before Jimmy can explain himself he watches Oliver get slugged by someone from behind. Its Davis, who then does the same to Jimmy.
Commercial Break. Milky Way? Pleasure You Can't Measure. Giving your company a slogan with suggestive undertones? Another unfortunate side effect of hunger. Grab a Snickers
Hey Davis. When you Doom out, know who you remind me of? Thomas the Train Engine. You know. Big round face. Huge jacked body. Dum-di-dum. What adventures are ya gonna get yourself into today, Thomas? You big oaf? Hee hee.
What the hell did you just say?!
Nothing Mr. Bloom. I have to run away now.
Lair of Doom. A groggy Oliver awakes in the Talon's basement, tied to a chair. He wakes Jimmy whom is tied just the same and asks if he's OK. Jimmy confirms. When asked who did this, Jimmy tells him that it was Davis. Fear comes over Ollie's face. As they speculate about whether Chloe's in danger, steps out of the smoke like Michael Jackson, telling them he'd never hurt Chloe - that she saved him.
Fork To The Eye Count: 27
Jimmy laughs it off and says that Chloe would never help him. Ask your white blood cells if Chloe would help him Jimmy, or has those drugs given you amnesia? Davis creepily steps forward and warns Jimmy about upsetting him. Oliver warns Jimmy as well, mentioning Davis' horns and saying that he gives new meaning to the term 'Bridezilla'. Jimmy thinks for a moment and has a moment of clarity - Davis was the beast who crashed the wedding. Everytime I remember that visual I die a little inside.
Davis gets a phone call and who else is it but Chloe who tells him she's on her way home. Davis tells her to hurry because he's losing control and Oliver yells for Chloe to stay away. The look on Davis' face is priceless, he turns to Oliver and silently looks at him like "you are so DONE when she hangs up." When asked if someone was there, Davis tells he caught two guys breaking into her apartment and that he's holding them downstairs. He says he will release as soon as they leave Smallville. Jimmy raises his head to that admission. Now.. now.. you and Oliver are finally wising up it. She's in cahoots with Davis and is not a victim at all.
Davis tells her to hurry and hangs up. No no, don't hurry Chloe. This scene is getting good. Jimmy snarls and asks Davis why did he do what he did at the wedding. Davis sits and tries to ignore him but Jimmy doesn't stop. He picks at Davis further about his childhood and laughs when Davis refuses to talk about it. Oliver is watching all of this with a worried look on his face and tells Jimmy to shut up but he screams NO and yells that Davis ruined his life and brainwashed Chloe.
Fork To The Eye Count: 30
Davis springs to his feet and tells Jimmy that he doesn't know what Chloe wants and that they have to be together. Oliver attempts to calm him again and reminds him that Chloe is going to arrive soon, and Davis states that if she doesn't get there soon that he'll kill one of them to calm down. Jimmy volunteers. I really don't like where this is going.
Jimmy asks if he's human and Davis starts to lose it, but then he says the magic words - that Chloe could never love him. Davis grabs his head and starts squeezing, his eyes turning red. Oliver yells for Davis to stop, reminding him that Chloe wouldn't forgive him for killing Jimmy. Davis calms a little, but punches Jimmy out. Sorry Jimmy, you had that one coming. What were you thinking?
Davis turns to Oliver and tells him that he was right, that killing Jimmy would be crossing the line - which only leaves him. He grabs Oliver by the throat and squeezes. Just then Clark shows up to the Talon. He sees Chloe's bedroom door ajar and superhears around him. Hearing Oliver being choked by Davis, Clark speeds off through the door and down the stairs, grabbing Davis and swinging him to a water heater. When asked about Chloe, Davis refuses to answer and for that Clark swings him around and shoulder charges him out of the building. That was a pretty cool special effects moment. This would be my second favorite scene of the episode here. But to be honest, I only liked four scenes.
Commercial Break. Hi, uh, is this 1-800-Pet-Meds? Yeah, man. Listen, I got a horse and he REALLY needs tranquilizers. Lots of 'em! Please! Come on! Look, look. Don't hang up. Fine. I don't have a horse, but I REALLY NEED HORSE TRANQUILIZERS! PLEASE! Hello? Hello?! HELLO?!??!?
Hey, man. I think Lana has a disease or something, she doesn't look like herself.
That's because its Chloe you idiot.
Oh is it? Damn. I never heard of that before. Is it contagious?
Talon. Chloe shows up too late and the coffee shop is full of black suits sent by Oliver. Jimmy is rolled out on a stretcher and she acts concerned and comes over to him, but Jimmy refuses to look at her. Doctor Hamilton is also there and he gives her a dirty look then says that Jimmy and Oliver are lucky to be alive. Me thinks the doctor told Oliver about Chloe's game. She looks down at Jimmy and tells him she's sorry, the score gives a evil note as she grabs his arm. OH don't you TOUCH him. Don't even TALK to him after the junk you pulled.
As soon as she touches Jimmy he gives her a contemptuous look, then tells her that whatever she does to stay away from the monster. The doc then rolls Jimmy away. That was great how the both of them looked disgusted at her, but the oh my friends, the fun is just beginning. Oliver walks over and he definitely is not a jolly green giant.
"You know Chloe, I thought about calling the police. Instead I thought I'd give you a chance to explain yourself before I let them haul you off to prison for harboring a serial killer." - Oliver Queen, the way to say hello, 7:42 PM.
Hell yes Oliver! Chloe, your response?
"I shouldn't have left Davis here alone, this never would have happened if I were here. Its all my fault."
Boy if her head got any bigger she'd be float in the Thanksgiving Day parade. You're not getting it Chloe, thats not the point. The point is that you shouldn't have had the guy there in the FIRST place. When she turns to face Oliver he has a unforgiving stare on his face.
"When did you become one of the bad guys, huh?" Oliver, laying the smack down, 7:43 PM.
Chloe looks down and tries to explain her reasoning, telling him that she calms the beast inside Davis and he needed her. Oliver snarls at that last part and and bites out "He needed you?" Then tells her that the need of a serial kill out-wayed the needs of the world. Chloe tells him its complicated and tries to walk past him but he blocks her path and yells out that her psycho boyfriend also said its complicated. She gets panicky and tells him that either she stays with Davis or let innocent people die. Oliver spits out "Come ON" and its not just what he said but the way he said it. Such disbelief.. such mockery. He isn't falling for any of her manipulative lies.
"Chloe if you really believed that you would have handled things a little bit differently, don't you think? But instead, what do you do? You cook him dinner, you fluff his pillows, you ROCK HIM TO SLEEP!" - The TRUTH, by Oliver Queen, 7:43 PM.
I almost choke laughing. Chloe tears up at Oliver's relentless onslaught. She cries that she knows how it looks on the outside but to trust that she has everything under control. Does Mike Tyson have to bite her damn ear off before she realizes how delusional she sounds!!?? Oliver yells behind her that she has nothing under control and that speaking as Davis' next victim her plan flat out sucked. She stops and stares off into space. Hearkening back to what Davis asked her in her dream, Oliver asks her 'how did she think this was going to end'.
She frowns and tells him that she'll find Davis and fix everything. Oliver ends that stupidity right then and there by telling her that she won't fix a thing. That she's done enough, and that Clark is handling things now. Chloe runs behind him asking where's Clark. Oh don't tell her Oliver, she's not to be trusted. Good. He only told her that Clark took Davis away. Then smiled and walked off in delight. Badass! BEST scene of the episode. So many quotable parts. Oliver just trashed Chloe for the entire scene. I remember thinking "Am I in heaven? Is this really happening?" It was so beautiful that it almost brought a tear to my eye. Almost. ::sips a beer and gives a Superman nod::
Almost.
Fortress of <S>Solitude</S>. Clark speeds in with Davis and just flings him to the ground. Davis growls as he gets to his feet and challenges Clark to a fight. As they circle each other, Clark says he didn't bring him there to fight. That the Fortress is a place that can help him, and that he could be sent to a place where he wouldn't have to hide who he is anymore.
"A world without Chloe.." - Davis, spoiling my Zatanna wish, 7:46 PM. In time my precious, in time.
Davis' face Dooms out as he thinks about it, and he growls that he's having none of that. Clark says if he really cared about Chloe he'd let her go. Davis corrects him that it was Chloe's idea to skip town. Can we have one damn scene that doesn't mention her name!?? Is that too much to ask? In quite possibly one of the worst statements this season, Clark says that Chloe would skip town with anyone.. that she believes in giving people second chances, but that she doesn't really have feelings for him.
Fork To The Eye Count: 50 and counting.
NO she wouldn't just run off with anyone, Clark. This is more than just her being nice. Only a lunatic or Britney Spears would skip town for just any ole person. Davis starts whining about never wanting any of this but that being around Chloe makes him feel human. Ha ha this is all so hilarious. I'm going to kill everybody.
Clark stares at Davis and calmly walks over and grabs a crystal and asks Davis what would happen if Chloe isn't around anymore. Davis tells him that won't ever happen, that Chloe's his chance to be happy and why won't his kryptonian brother let him have that. Clark walks to the console and tells him that he was wrong - they aren't brothers. But before he could insert the crystal he is grabbed by Davis and tossed him through a part of the fortress.
Clark gets up and warns that he doesn't want to hurt him, and after some smack talk by Davis, Clark knocks him out. He then walks over and stabs the console with the crystal, opening a portal. Davis sees this and says that if he's going to the PZ, he's taking Clark with him. They wrestle for a little.. before the portal closes. Davis looks shocked, Clark looks confused, I clench my jaw.
Reveal Chloe, standing by the console, holding the octagon key.
She tells Clark she can't let him do this, then takes out the crystal and closes the portal.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
8. Prevents Doomsday from being sent to a prison where he could never hurt any human again.
I.. I'm just going to count backwards from ten now. And then I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Clark tells her its the right then to do and to trust him.
"Trust you? Clark, the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe you would force him into a life of hell for all eternity." - where is a eighteen wheeler running over her, backing up, and running over her again when you need one, 7:49PM
I'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. Its not working. I'm losing it.
She tells him that she knows him better than anyone and that she can't let him do this. That he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis. And with the emasculation of Clark Kent complete, she gives him a scolding look and leaves with Davis, and Clark just stood there and watched, and did nothing. Nothing.
::::Rant Alert::::
You know whats unforgiving Chloe!? Your BREATH is unforgiving!! Who the hell are you to come to the FOS and tell Clark what he should feel and how he should feel it when you're the cause for ALL of this! Those are YOUR feelings that you are trying to project on Clark. Its you and ONLY you who don't want Doomsday in the phantom zone, you twit! Why didn't Clark punt her to a small moon!? She's practically begged for it! Disgusting. This scene sucked.
Oh the beer is all gone people, GONE! And the fork to the eye count has passed 100.
Commercial Break. "Yo man, I'm getting crazy visuals. The clouds are like melting. Whoaaa. Yo this is sick. I just popped a bag of skittles. You sure you didn't put anything in them? Whoaaa. Taste the Rainbow, man. The Rainbow."
LuthorCorp. While Oliver is changing his desktop to a shirtless pic of himself, Jimmy walks in asking if they have any leads on Doomsday. Sorry Jimbo, no word on Dooms. The score gets a 7th Heaven tune to it and its time for a pep talk. Oliver points out that the demon Jimmy should be fighting is inside of him, not Davis. Jimmy objects and Oliver backs off and offers him a check for the money he asked for earlier. Thinking it over, Jimmy declines the handout. Oliver says its no handout, its a paycheck. He did a background check on Jimmy and was impressed, and for that Jimmy gets his own office and a place on Oliver's company? That easy?
Jimmy calls himself a mediocre photographer and says he's no hero, but Oliver thinks he is. He commends him for figuring out that Davis was the serial killer before anyone else and for taking him on - and that his good instincts are enough for him. Thats nice of you Oliver but I had the same question Jimmy had - whats the catch? None, except that it's a full time gig and he'll have a lot of work. The scene ends on a handshake and finally a smile by Jimmy. Good scene. I'm intrigue by where this is going. While I have reservations about Jimmy getting involved with the JL, I could stomach that a hhhhhhhhhhhell of a lot more than Chloe.
Isis. This is most likely the last scene ever for this set. So I guess I should take a moment and reflect on the good things that came from Isis.
...... Can't think of a damn thing. Oh well I tried. Good riddance.
Clark is checking out some satellite images and hears footsteps behind him. He turns and watches, hoping that its Chloe. But its Oliver, and Clark rolls his eyes and walks back to the computer. Oliver looks at him disapointed. You know its coming... there it goes...
"If you're looking for Chloe you're wasting your time Clark. But I guess thats what you do best, isn't it?" - Oliver, as only Oliver could, 7:55 PM.
Burn! I knew he was going to be pissed that Clark just let Chloe and Davis walk out of the FOS, and I don't blame Oliver for that. That was a ridiculous move on Clark's end. Anyway, Clark ignores him and stares at the computer screens with a fierce concentration. Oliver walks up to him and makes clear that Chloe's gone and doesn't want to be found. Clark's response to that is that Davis must have done something to Chloe because she wouldn't have lied to him if she wasn't trapped.
Fork To The Eye Count: 101, 102, 103...
Trapped? She was at Isis, alone! She was out driving.. alone! With Lois.. ALONE! What does she have to do for him to admit that it was her and just her who was deciding to do ALL of this??
Oliver responds that she can't resist Davis, that he has real feelings for her. Clark's answer? Whatever Davis feels for her, Chloe would never care about him. Un-believable. Oliver stares at the side of his head and if he could, Clark would be on the ground about now. Oliver spells it out for him, that she led him a wild goose chase while she kept the monster in her basement and that she obviously is attracted to Davis. Still in denial, Clark thinks she would never choose Davis over her friends. Oliver tells him that people change and so should he. That he should have Doomsday when he had the chance.
"Clark, I know you want to save everybody, but eventually you're going to have to make the tough decisions. Its what heroes do." - Upcoming foreshadowing, 7:57PM.
The same song from the teaser starts playing and Clark gets a phone call. Its Chloe calling from a gas station, with Davis inside the store buying who the hell cares. Like the drama queen she is, she calls him up just to say not to come after them, and that they are fine. Instead of hanging up the phone and watching river dancing, Clark starts bargaining with her not to do this. She says she knows everyone thinks she's crazy but that she knows what she's doing and if she told him earlier she knew he'd find a way to stop them so she didn't.
Clarks asks her to admit she's doing this because she's in love with Davis but nuh uh, its all for you Clark. The whole sha-bang. Twice he tells her she's wrong, and vows to save her but she wants him to save everyone not just her. That she finally found a way to save him, and that choosing the greater good is never sacrificing. Don't mind me everyone, I'm just coughing blood. He tries again to reach her but she hangs up in his face, and he smashes a nearbye cabinet in frustration.
Davis walks to his car and hands Chloe a heart shaped candy filled, then they ride off together to end the episode.
All in All: I usually give a summery of every character to end these reviews but I'll just summarize the episode below.
I don't even know where to begin. Did I expect it to be as good as Stiletto? No. Did I expect this writer to write a convincing story? She wrote Progeny also, which I didn't like, so no. But I don't think I was quite prepared for this. There was some epic b.s. in this episode. Epic.
Did I accurately describe how Chloe protects Clark and the world? Did that sound like someone who has sound judgement? No, not at all. But this writer really tried to pull this junk on us.
There was prime Lana-fying in this episode. One woman manipulating everyone (except Oliver), and having them all making excuses for her as if she isn't responsible for any of this. It was she who locked the basement door. She tossed the body bags in the dumpster. She was the who suggested they leave Smallville. She threatened the doctor. Chloe is NOT an innocent party is this. She's been manipulating the situation and everyone involved the whole time.
Let me tell you exactly what all of this is about. Vanity.
Chloe likes being needed, likes the attention that it brings to her, and likes being the center of attention. As she told Oliver, Davis needed her.. and for that, she risks the safety of everyone. For that, she saw fit to wreck Clark's plan of putting the most dangerous alien she's even known in the one place he belongs. For that, she flees with Davis and forsakes everyone who ever loved her. She isn't doing this for Davis' own good as she's trying to fool him and herself, and she sure as hell isn't doing this for Clark and the world's good. There is NOTHING good about leaving this beast around on Earth except that it keeps the guy who is obsessed with Chloe around her and feeds her ego. This is ALL about Chloe.
The most frustrating thing about this episode was that, despite all the evidence against her, Clark refused to see it until the very end where I think he wised up and saw through her. I'm not with Oliver on the killing issue since it would be pointless anyways (and Clark had the right idea in sending Dooms to the PZ), but everything else in this episode? I'm with Oliver 100%. And he's the only guy who didn't fall for Chloe's crocodile tears or ridiculous excuses to why she did what she did. He was a breath of fresh air in this episode.
I'm glad this druggie arc with Jimmy is over with because this episode pushed me on the side that is firmly against any of this. His suicide routine this episode had me banging my head against the wall. I guess the point was to show him hitting rock bottom, but I don't ever want to see Jimmy like this ever again.
I liked the hostage scene, loved the Ollie/Chloe confrontation, liked most of the Oliver/Jimmy stuff. But thats it. Clark was barely in this and when he was there Chloe played him like a violin. And the ending to the FOS scene made it one of the worst scenes of this season.
Denise Richard's singing > this episode. 5 out of 10. Just as worse as Eternal, and almost approached Requiem's level.
Next week. Tess is getting the band back together, but are they old enough to vote?
Another great review Cedric and I agree with you about everything you said about Chloe. There were so many times in this episode that I literally wanted to punch her in the face and just scream at her, especially the fortress scene. I know why she is saying she is doing it that Clark, because she does not want Clark to die. It is funny how every character in the show that knows Clark's secret and even Clark forgets that the Sun can bring him back from the dead and the fact that he is friends with the billionaire makes it that much worse. If Clarke dies all Oliver would have to do would be to put Clark's body in a rocket with a modified room were sunlight can be absorbed and redirected towards Clark's body. The result would be magical. Clark would be alive again. Have you ever noticed that everyone on the show who are not servants of the house of ElWho know Clark's secret(I do not know if that is written. The correct way but you get the point).or members of the House. They end up either betraying Clark or running away from Clark By servants, I mean Lionel and the Kent’s (even though they were Clark's earth Parents. They were still chosen by his father to raise him. At least in smallville universe so they are Clark's father's servants) I consider Clark's family members to be his kryptonian family members with one exception Lois Lane because in my mind, even though she does not have kryptonian powers. She still falls in line on the same moral compass as Clark and his kryptonian family members do so. That makes her a kryptonian as well.
I have said it before, and I will say again, Lois Lane is the only person other than the people I mentioned above. That should know Clark's secret, because she is the only one that can handle it and be responsible and do what is right at the same time.
Once again nice review I would give this episode, probably a low six.
Tatiana
05-03-2009, 07:52 AM
Davis is nothing more than camouflage, though I understand that others see the two as separate. To me he is Doomy in a Davis Suit and there are over 50 bodies to prove that he is not good. He went to the kill people to keep from transforming solution rather quickly. In real life, if a serial killer is proven to have done what he did through insanity he is not released back out on the street because it wasn't his fault, he is usually locked away in a mental institution for the rest of his life. Chloe has just taken it upon herself to release a monster back among the general population and I can't excuse that.
I agree and in Beast he seemed very manipulative, to me he knows Chloe really thinks he can control the monster by being with her, he knows that's not really true and that eventually the monster will take over, but he still lets her believe that cuz he is obsessed with her. He has killed 50 people, like Clark said and that was Davis doing that too not just Doomsday, he was willing to kill either Jimmy or Oliver also. The whole thing of "what did you think was gonna happen?" in the dream to me was the true nature of his thoughts. He is acting kinda like or you stay with me or I kill Clark and everyone else.
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by the way I think Clark's friends especially Chloe need to trust Clark more of his abilities and what he can do
nic25
05-03-2009, 09:50 AM
Friends Finale - by Genevieve Sparling
Scene opens in the sitting area of Central Perk. Phoebe, Joey, and Ross are seated.
Ross: So, that's it. I've had enough of denying myself of the things I want. Today, I'm going to tell Rachel that I want her in my life and can't live without her. It's the best thing to do.
Joey: Ooo! You know the best thing to do? Mix peanut butter and tuna. Mmmmm.
Laugh Track - Rachel enters
Ross: Uh, Rach? I was wondering if I could talk to you?
Rachel: (Excited) Oh Ross, just wait one second. I wanted to introduce you all to someone I've just met. She's incredible. Chloe?
Chloe, dressed in all black, turns around and walks over to the group
Ross: Thats... your new friend..?
Chloe: (Shake hands with everyone individually) Hi there. I'm the Chloe. Nice to meet you. The Chloe - that's me. Hi there. Chloe here.
Ross: I know it's soon, but I'm madly in love with her. Oh, I've never felt this way before.
Chloe: Thats because you never met someone like me.
Phoebe: Oh my gosh! You're right!
Rachel: Isn't she something else?
Joey: I'll say. She's just what this finale needs.
Chloe: Well I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but yeah.. it kinda does.
Phoebe: How selfless of you!
Laugh Track - Chandler and Monica enter the room. They are holding their newly adopted baby - played by Davis
Chandler: Well, it's official! We have a baby! Here's the little guy now.
Applause
Baby (Davis): Goo goo. Gaa gaa.
Joey: Aw, isn't he cute. Does the little fella need to be changed?
Baby (Davis): Listen Jack, the only thing I need is Chloe.
Chandler: (noticing Chloe) Whoa! Who's that awesome lady?
Joey: That's Chloe! She's mine!
Chloe: Now now fellas, there's plenty of Chloe to go around.
Laugh Track.
Monica: Normally, I'd be upset that my husband is leaving me, but this woman's awesome! Can she be any more awesome?
Phoebe: I know. I think I'm falling in love with you too.
Joey: But Phoebe, you just got married!
Phoebe: Screw that. This woman's amazing.
Laugh Track
Rachel: Everything worked out. We all have a new great friend. I guess this group isn't ever splitting up.
Clark: Ahh Ahhhhh ahhhhhhhhhh!!
Lois: Clark, Clark, Wake up! Wake up! You're dreaming again!
Clark: Oh my God. Oh my God. Lois. Oh, it’s just you. Oh it was terrible. They were all there. Chloe kept smiling, but not really smiling and all cast of friends were holding hands. They were jumping rope and singing "1,2,3...Chloe likes me." Then when I objected Peterson ran up behind me and hit my leg with a crowbar.
Lois: Shhh. It’s ok, Clark. I warned you that smelling sauce was really paint. Now breathe over here by the fan. You’ll be ok.
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Yep, its gonna be that type of review. Maybe it doesn't need to be this way. I could discuss Rosanne's 6th personality. What? You wanna know about this week's episode of Smallville? Sigh.. You don't want that.. really.. OK.. I warned ya...
Previously ON!
Davis hurt everyone but the right person. Tasering is the new coke formula. Chloe was dumped like a bedpan. Stand back, there's a retcon coming through! Watchtower became a bad punchline. I laughed at inner demons.
The music of angst starts us off and who else but Chloe is on screen. She attempts to get some sleep but a phone call interupts her. Its Davis who is scared because he had another nightmare. Doomsday had a nightmare.
Gotta get some beers. Be right back {1 minute later} Let us proceed.
He asks her to come downstairs because he doesn't want to be alone and she goes a'runnin. Soon as she opens the basement door she sees a single rose pedel on the step. Looking further she notices the hundreds more on the remaining steps. How romantic. Doomsday is romantic.
Fork To The Eye Count: 1
She walks down the stairs grinning and they flirt a little. Davis had to leave the basement to buy the flowers and she didn't think that was a bright idea. He gives her a rose and that makes it all better. He thanks her for all she's done and she tells him not to mention it, friends help each other. Davis raises a eyebrow.
"Friends help you move. They take you to the airport - you can't think thats really all this is." - Davis, 7:04 PM
Brushing that off, she tells him that it doesn't change their relationship. More mushy talk from Davis finishing with him telling her that the feelings they share are real. She tries to squirm out of there but he corners her and asks her to stay the night with him. That.. without her, he wouldn't exist. Only Chloe would dream about someone telling her that without her they wouldn't exist. Thats right up her ego alley.
Fork To The Eye Count: 14
They kiss and I close my eyes and envision myself riding through the Talon on my motorcycle, tossing a grenade. After they break their embrace, she notices something behind Davis. The music turns to a eery score as she sees a trail of blood leading someone in the basement. She asks Davis is that blood and he answers 'what did she think would happen?' She follows the trail until it ends behind a curtain. When she pulls it back she screams and sees the bloodied corpse of Clark, half his body ripped off, and hanging from a pipe. Thats the sickest visual this show has done, well.. besides Lana in a powersuit. Chloe wakes up, it was just a nightmare. What a coincidence, my nightmare is just starting.
Opening Credits. I'm sorry there must be some kind of mistake, why is Clark the first character?
Talon. Chloe's making a cappuccino and spills some when Clark walks in on her. Getting down to bizzness, Clark hands her a copy of the the latest DP paper. Offscreen Tess has decided to run the serial killer story on Davis; his photo with a police manhunt searching for him is seen. Chloe ignores it and tells Clark the D-man is dead, but he's not so sure. The body of Ugly's thug from last week was found in a dumpster, torn apart. All of this is clearly Davis' M.O.. Clark further says that the body was found after Davis was killed, and that he's come back from the dead before. Logical right? Well, all you see in this scene is a ball of blonde hair swinging from the left to the right for a solid minute as Chloe denies everything Clark says. She spins it into Clark just being paranoid and scared.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
Ace of Clubs. Oliver is in a meeting with some suits discussing ways for Luthorcorp to go Green. Oh.. oh, I get it. Funny, show. Jimmy walks in, nervously looking around like he just ate bean dip. He asks Oliver if they could talk for a spell - and that it was for an important reason. Oliver excuses himself and what does he get asked? He's asked for $600 so that Jimmy could pay a mechanic for his car troubles. If looks could kill.
This kinda reminded me of a particular moment that was spoiled by the father of this high school hottie of mine. He interrupted our kiss and told her that it was for an important reason as well. His reason? So that she could get his gun. I got the message, and ran home.
Oliver brings up Jimmy's job as a Bartender, but he says he's been laid off. Having enough, Ollie just comes out and confronts him about being an addict. Jimmy denies it, but the red eyes, bags, 5 O'clock shadow, and weird behavaior kinda gives it away. To his credit, Oliver does offer to put Jimmy through rehab and pay for the tab himself.
Yes Oliver, but do they have ESPN? Didn't think so.
Jimmy isn't having any of this and he walks off, giving Oliver a shoulder brush in the process. Oliver calls after him and tells him that he going down a lonely path and that he is a friend Jimmy could talk to, but that he won't give him money for drugs. Jimmy guilts him about it, saying that he thought they were friends but since Oliver doesn't trust him they aren't.
Parking lot. Thats the best I can do, cause I have no idea where the hell they are. But its Chloe and Dr. Hamilton talking in his car. She's just confessed to him that she has Davis in her basement. He asks who else knows this info and she says no one, not even Oliver because she can't trust him. Doc tells her that Oliver created the League to deal with these types of problems. She thinks for a moment and rats out that Oliver killed Lex, drawing a reaction from the Doc. She continues.
"..And the stakes are too high to have someone involved who can't think clearly." - Holy.. crap, 7:17PM.
OLIVER'S the one who isn't thinking clearly??? And scheming behind the boss' back does not a Watchtower make. She describes Davis' condition as an infection, and tells him that he's the only one who can find a cure. He doesn't think he can do anything with Davis' saliva (there's a water bottle of Davis' that she apparently took), and he wants to see Davis in person. When thats denied he says he'll run tests anyway to see what he can find.
As she exits the car, a near-beasting Davis walks up to her and asks who was the guy in the car. She ushers him to a wall, tells him it was just a friend, and asks him whats wrong since he shouldn't be outside. He tells her that nothing works to calm him now. That he's tried looking at photos of her and holding locks of her hair, but that its to the point where as soon as she leaves his presence he Dooms out. That.. he can't be away from her now.
Fork To The Eye Count: 17
Talon. Davis holds a copy of the Daily Planet headline that calls for the manhunt of him - the cornfield killer. Chloe's voice is heard as she explains that she didn't want to tell him about it because it would upset him, and that the police are hunting for him which is why he needed to stay indoors. Davis looks shaken up and tells her that by accepting her help he's placed her in trouble with the law as well. She tells him that she won't let anyone find him. He asks what will happen if the cops find her, and she declares that they'll skip town as fugitives. Davis looks up in surprise and I take another sip of beer.
Davis tells her she's done enough for him and that he can't ask her to run away with, but she tells him that its her decision. He gets up to think then tells her that she wouldn't be able to say goodbye to Clark or anyone, and asks would she do that, is Davis that important to her? She thinks it over and tells him that she would do anything for him. He looks convinced and tells her that they should leave today. She looks taken aback as if she didn't expect to leave so soon, but tells him that she has to close some accounts and make sure no one can find them, then they'll leave at sun down. I thought it was all over but he had to tell her once more that he doesn't know what he would do without her.
Fork To The Eye Count: 22
Commercial Break. "Hi." Hi. "Is Chloe there?" No. "Sorry. I must have the wrong number" - When Doomsday Calls - Rated PG-13. Opens everywhere on May 14th.
Hello? 911? Please send help! My son's having a seizure. He swallowed some five year old Advil and washed it down with tainted Robitussin DM!
Why would he do that?
He left a note. Something about protecting Clark. I don't know. It says he got it from a show.
LuthorCorp. Clark walks into Oliver's office and informs him that he checked Davis' grave and that its empty. Oliver thinks someone moved the body but Clark thinks Davis crawled out of the grave himself. Olive comes to the same conclusion as Clark - the goo is alive. Clark thinks he'll will go to Chloe and Oliver asks if he warned her. Of course he did Oliver, didn't you read that in my review? Clark says he did but that she thought he was delusional. Oliver gives one of those looks of his and basically asks if Chloe is on crack. Clark asks him to find Chloe and take her somewhere safe while he goes to the FOS to do work. Oliver says he has the perfect solution to the Doomsday problem, akin to how Jimmy Hoffa was dealt with. Clark balks at that but is told that its whats best for the safety of the world. Wonderful.
How come these scenarios don't work in the real world? I mean you can't tell a cop who pulls you over that you were speeding because its best for the world. You'd get a breathalyzer test.
Anyway, Clark tells him he'll deal with Doomsday and speeds out.
Isis. Ugh. Chloe is talking to Hamilton in high definition asking him to take another look at the "sample" because there has to be a cure for the D-man. Davis isn't a foot fungus, you dolt. Doc shakes his head and tells her no can do, Davis' cells are indestructible. She asks him about his earlier idea of bringing Davis to the lab, and Doc tells her he doesn't want the "monster" anywhere near him now. I'll drink to that. And as I have a drink Chloe acts like Davis isn't a monster and that there has to be a way to keep him from transforming. I can think of a few, but they all end with Doomsday belly bumping Chloe into Mount St. Helens.
Doc tells her that Doomsday's transformation can be caused by strong emotions such as love, hate, obsession, and Skittles. Chloe starts basking in the glow of her self importance and the Doc interrupts her vanity by reminding her that Doomsday is trouble to the world and that they need to warn people. The score changes to a evil one.
"You don't want to do that. You betray me, and you betray Davis. And you sure as hell don't want to be on his bad side." - Ladies and Gentlemen.. Chloe, 7:37 PM.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
The doctor backs off but tells her that if her plan blows up its all on her. You don't watch this often now do you, Doc?
A swoosh of wind is heard and Clark asks if she was talking to someone. She lies of course. He asks if she was contacted by Oliver and she pretends to be busy. Clark doesn't move and tells her that Davis is alive and that he has proof. His awesome friend gets a concerned look on her face and tells him that when Davis resurfaces they'll hear about it. Clark's way ahead of her - he intends to find Davis and bring him to the fortress before he hurts anyone else. Chloe turns around curious. Clark explains that there's a weak signal from the FOS console and that he has the crystal Brainiac once used to release Zod, and that he plans on using it to send Davis to the Phantom Zone. Chloe's face drops and she tells Clark he can't do that to Davis. Clark rightfully reminds her that Davis has killed over 50 people and put Jimmy in the hospital and that there is nothing anyone can do for him.
You can see Chloe thinking of a rebuttal and she pretends she was talking about Clark and asks what if when he opens the portal it sucked him in too. Clark reminds her of what she said in Legion about putting the world first and she raises her tone and says that Clark (read: Davis) in the PZ isn't good for the world. Clark raises his voice and tells her that its a risk he has to take. Way to go Clark, you shut her up. Something I thought impossible without duct tape.
The liar starts thinking again, and says she can help with the search. That she's heard about a string of murders in Alaska that may be a clue where Davis is currently at. Clark thanks her and rushes off and she tells him good luck. He gives a Superman nod and speeds off while Chloe attempts to look sympathetic.
Talon. Oliver has gone over to take Chloe away. He hears a rumbling upstairs and finds Jimmy stealing money from her room. Before Jimmy can explain himself he watches Oliver get slugged by someone from behind. Its Davis, who then does the same to Jimmy.
Commercial Break. Milky Way? Pleasure You Can't Measure. Giving your company a slogan with suggestive undertones? Another unfortunate side effect of hunger. Grab a Snickers
Hey Davis. When you Doom out, know who you remind me of? Thomas the Train Engine. You know. Big round face. Huge jacked body. Dum-di-dum. What adventures are ya gonna get yourself into today, Thomas? You big oaf? Hee hee.
What the hell did you just say?!
Nothing Mr. Bloom. I have to run away now.
Lair of Doom. A groggy Oliver awakes in the Talon's basement, tied to a chair. He wakes Jimmy whom is tied just the same and asks if he's OK. Jimmy confirms. When asked who did this, Jimmy tells him that it was Davis. Fear comes over Ollie's face. As they speculate about whether Chloe's in danger, steps out of the smoke like Michael Jackson, telling them he'd never hurt Chloe - that she saved him.
Fork To The Eye Count: 27
Jimmy laughs it off and says that Chloe would never help him. Ask your white blood cells if Chloe would help him Jimmy, or has those drugs given you amnesia? Davis creepily steps forward and warns Jimmy about upsetting him. Oliver warns Jimmy as well, mentioning Davis' horns and saying that he gives new meaning to the term 'Bridezilla'. Jimmy thinks for a moment and has a moment of clarity - Davis was the beast who crashed the wedding. Everytime I remember that visual I die a little inside.
Davis gets a phone call and who else is it but Chloe who tells him she's on her way home. Davis tells her to hurry because he's losing control and Oliver yells for Chloe to stay away. The look on Davis' face is priceless, he turns to Oliver and silently looks at him like "you are so DONE when she hangs up." When asked if someone was there, Davis tells he caught two guys breaking into her apartment and that he's holding them downstairs. He says he will release as soon as they leave Smallville. Jimmy raises his head to that admission. Now.. now.. you and Oliver are finally wising up it. She's in cahoots with Davis and is not a victim at all.
Davis tells her to hurry and hangs up. No no, don't hurry Chloe. This scene is getting good. Jimmy snarls and asks Davis why did he do what he did at the wedding. Davis sits and tries to ignore him but Jimmy doesn't stop. He picks at Davis further about his childhood and laughs when Davis refuses to talk about it. Oliver is watching all of this with a worried look on his face and tells Jimmy to shut up but he screams NO and yells that Davis ruined his life and brainwashed Chloe.
Fork To The Eye Count: 30
Davis springs to his feet and tells Jimmy that he doesn't know what Chloe wants and that they have to be together. Oliver attempts to calm him again and reminds him that Chloe is going to arrive soon, and Davis states that if she doesn't get there soon that he'll kill one of them to calm down. Jimmy volunteers. I really don't like where this is going.
Jimmy asks if he's human and Davis starts to lose it, but then he says the magic words - that Chloe could never love him. Davis grabs his head and starts squeezing, his eyes turning red. Oliver yells for Davis to stop, reminding him that Chloe wouldn't forgive him for killing Jimmy. Davis calms a little, but punches Jimmy out. Sorry Jimmy, you had that one coming. What were you thinking?
Davis turns to Oliver and tells him that he was right, that killing Jimmy would be crossing the line - which only leaves him. He grabs Oliver by the throat and squeezes. Just then Clark shows up to the Talon. He sees Chloe's bedroom door ajar and superhears around him. Hearing Oliver being choked by Davis, Clark speeds off through the door and down the stairs, grabbing Davis and swinging him to a water heater. When asked about Chloe, Davis refuses to answer and for that Clark swings him around and shoulder charges him out of the building. That was a pretty cool special effects moment. This would be my second favorite scene of the episode here. But to be honest, I only liked four scenes.
Commercial Break. Hi, uh, is this 1-800-Pet-Meds? Yeah, man. Listen, I got a horse and he REALLY needs tranquilizers. Lots of 'em! Please! Come on! Look, look. Don't hang up. Fine. I don't have a horse, but I REALLY NEED HORSE TRANQUILIZERS! PLEASE! Hello? Hello?! HELLO?!??!?
Hey, man. I think Lana has a disease or something, she doesn't look like herself.
That's because its Chloe you idiot.
Oh is it? Damn. I never heard of that before. Is it contagious?
Talon. Chloe shows up too late and the coffee shop is full of black suits sent by Oliver. Jimmy is rolled out on a stretcher and she acts concerned and comes over to him, but Jimmy refuses to look at her. Doctor Hamilton is also there and he gives her a dirty look then says that Jimmy and Oliver are lucky to be alive. Me thinks the doctor told Oliver about Chloe's game. She looks down at Jimmy and tells him she's sorry, the score gives a evil note as she grabs his arm. OH don't you TOUCH him. Don't even TALK to him after the junk you pulled.
As soon as she touches Jimmy he gives her a contemptuous look, then tells her that whatever she does to stay away from the monster. The doc then rolls Jimmy away. That was great how the both of them looked disgusted at her, but the oh my friends, the fun is just beginning. Oliver walks over and he definitely is not a jolly green giant.
"You know Chloe, I thought about calling the police. Instead I thought I'd give you a chance to explain yourself before I let them haul you off to prison for harboring a serial killer." - Oliver Queen, the way to say hello, 7:42 PM.
Hell yes Oliver! Chloe, your response?
"I shouldn't have left Davis here alone, this never would have happened if I were here. Its all my fault."
Boy if her head got any bigger she'd be float in the Thanksgiving Day parade. You're not getting it Chloe, thats not the point. The point is that you shouldn't have had the guy there in the FIRST place. When she turns to face Oliver he has a unforgiving stare on his face.
"When did you become one of the bad guys, huh?" Oliver, laying the smack down, 7:43 PM.
Chloe looks down and tries to explain her reasoning, telling him that she calms the beast inside Davis and he needed her. Oliver snarls at that last part and and bites out "He needed you?" Then tells her that the need of a serial kill out-wayed the needs of the world. Chloe tells him its complicated and tries to walk past him but he blocks her path and yells out that her psycho boyfriend also said its complicated. She gets panicky and tells him that either she stays with Davis or let innocent people die. Oliver spits out "Come ON" and its not just what he said but the way he said it. Such disbelief.. such mockery. He isn't falling for any of her manipulative lies.
"Chloe if you really believed that you would have handled things a little bit differently, don't you think? But instead, what do you do? You cook him dinner, you fluff his pillows, you ROCK HIM TO SLEEP!" - The TRUTH, by Oliver Queen, 7:43 PM.
I almost choke laughing. Chloe tears up at Oliver's relentless onslaught. She cries that she knows how it looks on the outside but to trust that she has everything under control. Does Mike Tyson have to bite her damn ear off before she realizes how delusional she sounds!!?? Oliver yells behind her that she has nothing under control and that speaking as Davis' next victim her plan flat out sucked. She stops and stares off into space. Hearkening back to what Davis asked her in her dream, Oliver asks her 'how did she think this was going to end'.
She frowns and tells him that she'll find Davis and fix everything. Oliver ends that stupidity right then and there by telling her that she won't fix a thing. That she's done enough, and that Clark is handling things now. Chloe runs behind him asking where's Clark. Oh don't tell her Oliver, she's not to be trusted. Good. He only told her that Clark took Davis away. Then smiled and walked off in delight. Badass! BEST scene of the episode. So many quotable parts. Oliver just trashed Chloe for the entire scene. I remember thinking "Am I in heaven? Is this really happening?" It was so beautiful that it almost brought a tear to my eye. Almost. ::sips a beer and gives a Superman nod::
Almost.
Fortress of <S>Solitude</S>. Clark speeds in with Davis and just flings him to the ground. Davis growls as he gets to his feet and challenges Clark to a fight. As they circle each other, Clark says he didn't bring him there to fight. That the Fortress is a place that can help him, and that he could be sent to a place where he wouldn't have to hide who he is anymore.
"A world without Chloe.." - Davis, spoiling my Zatanna wish, 7:46 PM. In time my precious, in time.
Davis' face Dooms out as he thinks about it, and he growls that he's having none of that. Clark says if he really cared about Chloe he'd let her go. Davis corrects him that it was Chloe's idea to skip town. Can we have one damn scene that doesn't mention her name!?? Is that too much to ask? In quite possibly one of the worst statements this season, Clark says that Chloe would skip town with anyone.. that she believes in giving people second chances, but that she doesn't really have feelings for him.
Fork To The Eye Count: 50 and counting.
NO she wouldn't just run off with anyone, Clark. This is more than just her being nice. Only a lunatic or Britney Spears would skip town for just any ole person. Davis starts whining about never wanting any of this but that being around Chloe makes him feel human. Ha ha this is all so hilarious. I'm going to kill everybody.
Clark stares at Davis and calmly walks over and grabs a crystal and asks Davis what would happen if Chloe isn't around anymore. Davis tells him that won't ever happen, that Chloe's his chance to be happy and why won't his kryptonian brother let him have that. Clark walks to the console and tells him that he was wrong - they aren't brothers. But before he could insert the crystal he is grabbed by Davis and tossed him through a part of the fortress.
Clark gets up and warns that he doesn't want to hurt him, and after some smack talk by Davis, Clark knocks him out. He then walks over and stabs the console with the crystal, opening a portal. Davis sees this and says that if he's going to the PZ, he's taking Clark with him. They wrestle for a little.. before the portal closes. Davis looks shocked, Clark looks confused, I clench my jaw.
Reveal Chloe, standing by the console, holding the octagon key.
She tells Clark she can't let him do this, then takes out the crystal and closes the portal.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
8. Prevents Doomsday from being sent to a prison where he could never hurt any human again.
I.. I'm just going to count backwards from ten now. And then I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Clark tells her its the right then to do and to trust him.
"Trust you? Clark, the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe you would force him into a life of hell for all eternity." - where is a eighteen wheeler running over her, backing up, and running over her again when you need one, 7:49PM
I'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. Its not working. I'm losing it.
She tells him that she knows him better than anyone and that she can't let him do this. That he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis. And with the emasculation of Clark Kent complete, she gives him a scolding look and leaves with Davis, and Clark just stood there and watched, and did nothing. Nothing.
::::Rant Alert::::
You know whats unforgiving Chloe!? Your BREATH is unforgiving!! Who the hell are you to come to the FOS and tell Clark what he should feel and how he should feel it when you're the cause for ALL of this! Those are YOUR feelings that you are trying to project on Clark. Its you and ONLY you who don't want Doomsday in the phantom zone, you twit! Why didn't Clark punt her to a small moon!? She's practically begged for it! Disgusting. This scene sucked.
Oh the beer is all gone people, GONE! And the fork to the eye count has passed 100.
Commercial Break. "Yo man, I'm getting crazy visuals. The clouds are like melting. Whoaaa. Yo this is sick. I just popped a bag of skittles. You sure you didn't put anything in them? Whoaaa. Taste the Rainbow, man. The Rainbow."
LuthorCorp. While Oliver is changing his desktop to a shirtless pic of himself, Jimmy walks in asking if they have any leads on Doomsday. Sorry Jimbo, no word on Dooms. The score gets a 7th Heaven tune to it and its time for a pep talk. Oliver points out that the demon Jimmy should be fighting is inside of him, not Davis. Jimmy objects and Oliver backs off and offers him a check for the money he asked for earlier. Thinking it over, Jimmy declines the handout. Oliver says its no handout, its a paycheck. He did a background check on Jimmy and was impressed, and for that Jimmy gets his own office and a place on Oliver's company? That easy?
Jimmy calls himself a mediocre photographer and says he's no hero, but Oliver thinks he is. He commends him for figuring out that Davis was the serial killer before anyone else and for taking him on - and that his good instincts are enough for him. Thats nice of you Oliver but I had the same question Jimmy had - whats the catch? None, except that it's a full time gig and he'll have a lot of work. The scene ends on a handshake and finally a smile by Jimmy. Good scene. I'm intrigue by where this is going. While I have reservations about Jimmy getting involved with the JL, I could stomach that a hhhhhhhhhhhell of a lot more than Chloe.
Isis. This is most likely the last scene ever for this set. So I guess I should take a moment and reflect on the good things that came from Isis.
...... Can't think of a damn thing. Oh well I tried. Good riddance.
Clark is checking out some satellite images and hears footsteps behind him. He turns and watches, hoping that its Chloe. But its Oliver, and Clark rolls his eyes and walks back to the computer. Oliver looks at him disapointed. You know its coming... there it goes...
"If you're looking for Chloe you're wasting your time Clark. But I guess thats what you do best, isn't it?" - Oliver, as only Oliver could, 7:55 PM.
Burn! I knew he was going to be pissed that Clark just let Chloe and Davis walk out of the FOS, and I don't blame Oliver for that. That was a ridiculous move on Clark's end. Anyway, Clark ignores him and stares at the computer screens with a fierce concentration. Oliver walks up to him and makes clear that Chloe's gone and doesn't want to be found. Clark's response to that is that Davis must have done something to Chloe because she wouldn't have lied to him if she wasn't trapped.
Fork To The Eye Count: 101, 102, 103...
Trapped? She was at Isis, alone! She was out driving.. alone! With Lois.. ALONE! What does she have to do for him to admit that it was her and just her who was deciding to do ALL of this??
Oliver responds that she can't resist Davis, that he has real feelings for her. Clark's answer? Whatever Davis feels for her, Chloe would never care about him. Un-believable. Oliver stares at the side of his head and if he could, Clark would be on the ground about now. Oliver spells it out for him, that she led him a wild goose chase while she kept the monster in her basement and that she obviously is attracted to Davis. Still in denial, Clark thinks she would never choose Davis over her friends. Oliver tells him that people change and so should he. That he should have Doomsday when he had the chance.
"Clark, I know you want to save everybody, but eventually you're going to have to make the tough decisions. Its what heroes do." - Upcoming foreshadowing, 7:57PM.
The same song from the teaser starts playing and Clark gets a phone call. Its Chloe calling from a gas station, with Davis inside the store buying who the hell cares. Like the drama queen she is, she calls him up just to say not to come after them, and that they are fine. Instead of hanging up the phone and watching river dancing, Clark starts bargaining with her not to do this. She says she knows everyone thinks she's crazy but that she knows what she's doing and if she told him earlier she knew he'd find a way to stop them so she didn't.
Clarks asks her to admit she's doing this because she's in love with Davis but nuh uh, its all for you Clark. The whole sha-bang. Twice he tells her she's wrong, and vows to save her but she wants him to save everyone not just her. That she finally found a way to save him, and that choosing the greater good is never sacrificing. Don't mind me everyone, I'm just coughing blood. He tries again to reach her but she hangs up in his face, and he smashes a nearbye cabinet in frustration.
Davis walks to his car and hands Chloe a heart shaped candy filled, then they ride off together to end the episode.
All in All: I usually give a summery of every character to end these reviews but I'll just summarize the episode below.
I don't even know where to begin. Did I expect it to be as good as Stiletto? No. Did I expect this writer to write a convincing story? She wrote Progeny also, which I didn't like, so no. But I don't think I was quite prepared for this. There was some epic b.s. in this episode. Epic.
Did I accurately describe how Chloe protects Clark and the world? Did that sound like someone who has sound judgement? No, not at all. But this writer really tried to pull this junk on us.
There was prime Lana-fying in this episode. One woman manipulating everyone (except Oliver), and having them all making excuses for her as if she isn't responsible for any of this. It was she who locked the basement door. She tossed the body bags in the dumpster. She was the who suggested they leave Smallville. She threatened the doctor. Chloe is NOT an innocent party is this. She's been manipulating the situation and everyone involved the whole time.
Let me tell you exactly what all of this is about. Vanity.
Chloe likes being needed, likes the attention that it brings to her, and likes being the center of attention. As she told Oliver, Davis needed her.. and for that, she risks the safety of everyone. For that, she saw fit to wreck Clark's plan of putting the most dangerous alien she's even known in the one place he belongs. For that, she flees with Davis and forsakes everyone who ever loved her. She isn't doing this for Davis' own good as she's trying to fool him and herself, and she sure as hell isn't doing this for Clark and the world's good. There is NOTHING good about leaving this beast around on Earth except that it keeps the guy who is obsessed with Chloe around her and feeds her ego. This is ALL about Chloe.
The most frustrating thing about this episode was that, despite all the evidence against her, Clark refused to see it until the very end where I think he wised up and saw through her. I'm not with Oliver on the killing issue since it would be pointless anyways (and Clark had the right idea in sending Dooms to the PZ), but everything else in this episode? I'm with Oliver 100%. And he's the only guy who didn't fall for Chloe's crocodile tears or ridiculous excuses to why she did what she did. He was a breath of fresh air in this episode.
I'm glad this druggie arc with Jimmy is over with because this episode pushed me on the side that is firmly against any of this. His suicide routine this episode had me banging my head against the wall. I guess the point was to show him hitting rock bottom, but I don't ever want to see Jimmy like this ever again.
I liked the hostage scene, loved the Ollie/Chloe confrontation, liked most of the Oliver/Jimmy stuff. But thats it. Clark was barely in this and when he was there Chloe played him like a violin. And the ending to the FOS scene made it one of the worst scenes of this season.
Denise Richard's singing > this episode. 5 out of 10. Just as worse as Eternal, and almost approached Requiem's level.
Next week. Tess is getting the band back together, but are they old enough to vote?
Cedric,Jade and SGuthrie i really enjoyed reading your reviews...Good Job! :)
jobookjunkie
05-03-2009, 10:07 AM
Aw wow Cedric, you said everything that I wanted to, only so much better. I see what you mean by being vindicated. Damn but Chloe annoys me so much. Personally, I liked the episode, but that was because of Clark (as always) and a cool little look at Emil Hamilton. I've saved your review to read over and over again :lol:
SVFancross
05-03-2009, 10:07 AM
Don't mind me everyone, I'm just coughing blood. I'm thrilled with Eternal. I totally "get" where the characters are coming from. Further, I "got" the Lana arc. I disagree with decisions they make but the overall trends are rarely a suprise. I don't agree with your demonization of Chloe Your review this time convieniently glossed over the final Chlark conversation. If Chloe and Clark (as evidenced by the scene you barely discussed) and the producers and writers (as evidenced by their interviews) all understand what is going on, I think you are going to be dissappointed if you think a comeuppance for Chloe is in the works.
Chloe is a hero on Smallville as far as I can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but Chloe is a hero and the leading lady. If the producers interpreted Chloe the way you do, IMO you wouldn't constantly be having to spork yourself.
Eternal showed to me that Chloe understands Clark better than anyone. I believe she is right that Clark would not forgive himself for consigning someone who did not have free will to a life of torture. And Clark should never set out to kill --- how people justify that and claim superior Superman "understanding" is beyond me.
Crouching Lurker
05-03-2009, 10:15 AM
Cedric, I had been waiting with bated breath to read your recap, you did not disappoint. You articulated everything I felt about this episode. Great job!
Kid Collins
05-03-2009, 10:18 AM
I'm thrilled with Eternal. I totally "get" where the characters are coming from. Further, I "got" the Lana arc. I disagree with decisions they make but the overall trends are rarely a suprise. I don't agree with your demonization of Chloe Your review this time convieniently glossed over the final Chlark conversation. If Chloe and Clark (as evidenced by the scene you barely discussed) and the producers and writers (as evidenced by their interviews) all understand what is going on, I think you are going to be dissappointed if you think a comeuppance for Chloe is in the works.
Chloe is a hero on Smallville as far as I can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but Chloe is a hero and the leading lady. If the producers interpreted Chloe the way you do, IMO you wouldn't constantly be having to spork yourself.
Eternal showed to me that Chloe understands Clark better than anyone. I believe she is right that Clark would not forgive himself for consigning someone who did not have free will to a life of torture. And Clark should never set out to kill --- how people justify that and claim superior Superman "understanding" is beyond me.?
Here Here. Excellent post and observation. :D
ginevrakent
05-03-2009, 11:00 AM
Cedric, I don't generally read your reviews because I find them to be nothing but character bashing but since this episode caused you such shock, horror and pain you've got to ask yourself: do you really understand Smallville? Not the Smallville you WANT but the Smallville that is on the screen?
If someone wants to criticize a character for doing things with which they disagree or dislike, that is their perogative.
I understand the show you WANT Smallville to be but since you spend so much time predicting dire consequences with extreme prejudice that don't typically work out, perhaps it's time to admit you don't really understand how TPTB view Smallville.
Do you have some sort of tally that proves that Cedric has a record of being wrong? He doesn't have to admit to anything, because who's to say who has the "right" understanding of how TPTB view Smallville?
I'm thrilled with Eternal. I totally "get" where the characters are coming from. Further, I "got" the Lana arc. I disagree with decisions they make but the overall trends are rarely a suprise.
Well, that's great for you. Perhaps you could explain for all of us who apparently just don't "get" it where all of the characters are coming from, where they are going, and how exactly all of what has happened with Chloe and Lana has been good for their characters and the show.
I don't agree with your demonization of Chloe and I'm positive the people who write and produce the show don't agree with you either.
Why, because of one quote from Slavkin saying he thinks Chloe is doing "the right thing." Well, TPTB also said in a much more recent interview that they have crafted the story to keep the audience guessing as to whether Chloe's actions are motivated by her love for Clark or for Davis. I simply don't agree that we're supposed to accept everything as clean cut. Moreover, while the views of the showrunners are important I, and other audience members, have minds of our own. In the view of many here and elsewhere, there has been considerable doubt as to the virtue of Chloe's current course of action (and no, I don't think it's because we're all too thick to understand what's going on). TPTB said the final phone call scene in Stiletto was romantic, and there have been a number of viewers who didn't see it as such. TPTB aren't necessarily to be trusted, and they certainly don't get to dictate how I and other viewers think and feel about the show.
You've taken "interpretation" to a new level. Your review this time convieniently glossed over the final Chlark conversation. If Chloe and Clark (as evidenced by the scene you barely discussed) and the producers and writers (as evidenced by their interviews) all understand what is going on, I think you are going to be dissappointed if you think a comeuppance for Chloe is in the works.
The Chlark conversation doesn't demonstrate to me that Clark understands what is going on with Chloe. He seems utterly perplexed and aggravated by Chloe's actions. The whole show he was defending Chloe even as she was lying to his face. Maybe Chloe won't get any comeuppance, but I think seeing her nightmare of Clark's death at the hands of Doomsday realized would be a painful enough consequence for her foolhardy and selfish behavior.
Chloe is a hero on Smallville as far as I can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but Chloe is a hero and the leading lady. If the producers interpreted Chloe the way you do, IMO you wouldn't constantly be having to spork yourself.
Chloe used to be a hero in my eyes, now she's fallen from grace. Heroes don't stop other heroes from saving the world, because the Phantom Zone (Clark's plan) is the best and only solution for a creature like Doomsday who cannot be contained by Chloe 24/7 for the rest of her life (Chloe's plan) and cannot be killed (Oliver's plan). The producers can write characters in ways that frustrate viewers on purpose, because it creates conflict and tension. It is completely within a viewer's rights to be disgusted by what he or she sees onscreen even if TPTB hold a different view or intent. That's what happens when people read books, watch movies, or watch TV shows. They get to react to the material in a way that is meaningful to them.
Eternal showed to me that Chloe understands Clark better than anyone. I believe she is right that Clark would not forgive himself for consigning someone who did not have free will to a life of torture. And Clark should never set out to kill --- how people justify that and claim superior Superman "understanding" is beyond me.
Chloe doesn't understand Clark at all, and this episode and others this season have proven that in my view. She has chewed Clark out repeatedly for not doing what is necessary to protect himself from threats--even going so far as to criticize him for not killing Lex, etc. when they were putting him and the world in danger. She also was completely short sighted and out of step with Clark in thinking that sentencing herself to a living hell (a "life of torture", to use your words) instead of sending Davis to one would be better for Clark's sake. That's why Clark was so upset at the end of the episode, because he cares about Chloe and now he is left with the guilt of losing her because of him. The problem is he didn't even get to make this choice, Chloe is making choices for him that prevents him from doing what is right, and causes him more emotional and physical pain in the future.
Clark wasn't setting out to kill anyone. Doomsday cannot be killed, and was sending him to a prison as other Supermen have done and as Jor-El would have done. Superman's moral code has been something that has been tested in comics and other media, and given a difficult situation such as this one Clark had to go with what was his best and only option. Chloe stopped him from doing this, and that was a mistake that will have terrible consequences.
ETA: And you are certainly not vindicated in my eyes. Once again your predictions of Clark dumping Chloe as a friend are completely wrong as he "will spend every second" looking for her and trying to save her.How do you justify that intense devotion from Clark after all that happened? Do you really think he's going to abandon Chloe at this point?
Oh, I don't think Clark will abandon Chloe. That's not like him at all, which is precisely why Chloe was so misguided in her decision to leave with Davis. Clark will inevitably never cease trying to save her from her own hell on Earth, which will burden him with guilt and sadness for her and put him in on a collision course with his tragic destiny to fight Doomsday to the death.
lm1212
05-03-2009, 11:03 AM
Cedric, that was well worth the wait. You are too freakin' funny. Although our views aren't quite the same on some aspects of the show, I see where you're coming from, and you back your opinions very well.
Originally Posted by SVFancross
Cedric, I don't generally read your reviews because I find them to be nothing but character bashing but since this episode caused you such shock, horror and pain you've got to ask yourself: do you really understand Smallville? Not the Smallville you WANT but the Smallville that is on the screen?
I believe you should just respect his opinions...not everyone is going to agree with the guy, but you have to admit, his reviews are great. I liked Eternal and Beast too, the Doomsday arc really entertains me, but I've also took the time to understand why people would oppose to the writing as well.
SVFancross
05-03-2009, 11:26 AM
Do you have some sort of tally that proves that Cedric has a record of being wrong?
Here's a few:
- Clark will kick Lana to the curb (NO)
- Chloe will never get her memories back and no longer be part of Clark's inner circle (NO)
- Clark will drop Chloe as a friend (NO)
There are more but this reviewer has many strongly held opinions that he is entitled to but I have yet to see come true.
I believe you should just respect his opinions.
This reviewer bashes and I shouldn't have to respect that. There are a few grains of value in a few of his post but they are not respectfully written towards many of the characters or their fans. The noise factor is too high to pick out the wheat from the chaff IMO. It's his style and so many love to here him bash Chloe I felt it was about time an alternative point of view on the love for reviewer was posted.
If someone can say they love his review, I should be able to say I don't find it a good nor credible review.
TPTB aren't necessarily to be trusted, and they certainly don't get to dictate how I and other viewers think and feel about the show.
No, they can't dictate how you feel. They can only tell you the intentions of the show, whether or not you accept them.
smallvillereporter27
05-03-2009, 11:30 AM
I believe you should just respect his opinions...not everyone is going to agree with the guy, but you have to admit, his reviews are great. I liked Eternal and Beast too, the Doomsday arc really entertains me, but I've also took the time to understand why people would oppose to the writing as well.
I agree. Everyone is entitled to an opinion here. I enjoy reading Cedric's reviews because they are very entertaining! :D However, I don't necessairly agree with them. TPTB purposly made Chloe's descision iffy here, meaning that some will defend her and some won't. That's perfectly fine with me and it honestly makes the story more interesting.
ginevrakent
05-03-2009, 11:45 AM
No, they can't dictate how you feel. They can only tell you the intentions of the show, whether or not you accept them.
Then you have to agree that more recent interviews suggest that their intentions are to make Chloe's actions seem ambiguous at best. Their intentions are to keep the audience guessing, not to tell us that we must accept without question that Chloe is making the right choices in regards to Davis.
cloisthelegendbegins
05-03-2009, 11:47 AM
Has Cloisthelegendbegins (Annie) posted her review yet? Her posts are always enlightening, they're definitely worth a read.
What a nice thing to say :) Thank you! No, she hasn't posted her review yet, but she is working on it. ;) Apart from real life, I have mixed feelings about Beast and needed to take a step back to process it all.
Tompouce
05-03-2009, 12:08 PM
Chloe's argument was stupid because Davis is a monster as well. Why does she think Davis deserves any happiness whatsoever? He murdered over 50 people. Jor-el used the PZ as a prison and that's exactly what Davis deserves.
I agree with you but I think Chloe think about the Davis human side too. I don't know what to think about "Beast". At least, I have my answer and I was "right" : Chloe makes a sacrifice being with Davis. It is just the way she said to Clark he was wrong about sending Davis in PZ which disturbs me because it was the RIGHT decision. And as we all know Clark, she succeeded giving him enough doubts and if there is something he doesn't need at all it is this !
I don't know what to vote. Jimmy was really good, Oliver and Clark (of course:D)too but the way Chloe is stubborn is so weird, I am totally lost lol
SGuthrie27
05-03-2009, 12:36 PM
Oops, thanks to nic25, too! And yes, Annie, I've been anxious to read your review as well. It was people like you and Cedric and the other lengthy reviewers who inspired me to try and write my own in the first place!
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
LoveHurts38
05-03-2009, 12:39 PM
What a nice thing to say :) Thank you! No, she hasn't posted her review yet, but she is working on it. ;) Apart from real life, I have mixed feelings about Beast and needed to take a step back to process it all.
Thanks for letting us know...PM when you do:D
If someone wants to criticize a character for doing things with which they disagree or dislike, that is their perogative.
Do you have some sort of tally that proves that Cedric has a record of being wrong? He doesn't have to admit to anything, because who's to say who has the "right" understanding of how TPTB view Smallville?
Well, that's great for you. Perhaps you could explain for all of us who apparently just don't "get" it where all of the characters are coming from, where they are going, and how exactly all of what has happened with Chloe and Lana has been good for their characters and the show.
Why, because of one quote from Slavkin saying he thinks Chloe is doing "the right thing." Well, TPTB also said in a much more recent interview that they have crafted the story to keep the audience guessing as to whether Chloe's actions are motivated by her love for Clark or for Davis. I simply don't agree that we're supposed to accept everything as clean cut. Moreover, while the views of the showrunners are important I, and other audience members, have minds of our own. In the view of many here and elsewhere, there has been considerable doubt as to the virtue of Chloe's current course of action (and no, I don't think it's because we're all too thick to understand what's going on). TPTB said the final phone call scene in Stiletto was romantic, and there have been a number of viewers who didn't see it as such. TPTB aren't necessarily to be trusted, and they certainly don't get to dictate how I and other viewers think and feel about the show.
The Chlark conversation doesn't demonstrate to me that Clark understands what is going on with Chloe. He seems utterly perplexed and aggravated by Chloe's actions. The whole show he was defending Chloe even as she was lying to his face. Maybe Chloe won't get any comeuppance, but I think seeing her nightmare of Clark's death at the hands of Doomsday realized would be a painful enough consequence for her foolhardy and selfish behavior.
Chloe used to be a hero in my eyes, now she's fallen from grace. Heroes don't stop other heroes from saving the world, because the Phantom Zone (Clark's plan) is the best and only solution for a creature like Doomsday who cannot be contained by Chloe 24/7 for the rest of her life (Chloe's plan) and cannot be killed (Oliver's plan). The producers can write characters in ways that frustrate viewers on purpose, because it creates conflict and tension. It is completely within a viewer's rights to be disgusted by what he or she sees onscreen even if TPTB hold a different view or intent. That's what happens when people read books, watch movies, or watch TV shows. They get to react to the material in a way that is meaningful to them.
Chloe doesn't understand Clark at all, and this episode and others this season have proven that in my view. She has chewed Clark out repeatedly for not doing what is necessary to protect himself from threats--even going so far as to criticize him for not killing Lex, etc. when they were putting him and the world in danger. She also was completely short sighted and out of step with Clark in thinking that sentencing herself to a living hell (a "life of torture", to use your words) instead of sending Davis to one would be better for Clark's sake. That's why Clark was so upset at the end of the episode, because he cares about Chloe and now he is left with the guilt of losing her because of him. The problem is he didn't even get to make this choice, Chloe is making choices for him that prevents him from doing what is right, and causes him more emotional and physical pain in the future.
Clark wasn't setting out to kill anyone. Doomsday cannot be killed, and was sending him to a prison as other Supermen have done and as Jor-El would have done. Superman's moral code has been something that has been tested in comics and other media, and given a difficult situation such as this one Clark had to go with what was his best and only option. Chloe stopped him from doing this, and that was a mistake that will have terrible consequences.
Oh, I don't think Clark will abandon Chloe. That's not like him at all, which is precisely why Chloe was so misguided in her decision to leave with Davis. Clark will inevitably never cease trying to save her from her own hell on Earth, which will burden him with guilt and sadness for her and put him in on a collision course with his tragic destiny to fight Doomsday to the death.
Excellent post! :cool:
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If someone can say they love his review, I should be able to say I don't find it a good nor credible review.
Yes, but saying that he doesn't understand the series or TPTB is crossing the line, IMO. Especially when that means that anyone who agrees with his reviews, which are a lot, don't understand the show either. So instead of criticizing his review, you are criticizing the reviewer and indirectly criticizing those who subscribe to his views. And thus you break the forum rule about keeping all conversations about the series and not about other fans.
Here's a few:
- Clark will kick Lana to the curb (NO)
- Chloe will never get her memories back and no longer be part of Clark's inner circle (NO)
- Clark will drop Chloe as a friend (NO)
There are more but this reviewer has many strongly held opinions that he is entitled to but I have yet to see come true.
I'm sure if someone took the time to keep a record of ANY member they would find speculative comments that turned out to be false. I've made dozens upon dozens of comments that turned out to be wrong just this season alone. But does that mean that I don't understand the show? No. And more to the point, does that give anyone a right to bring up all my past comments and tally them up and then criticize them publicly? No.
Tompouce
05-03-2009, 12:54 PM
ITA with ginevrakent. Thanks, you said exactly what I feel in this episode. Chloe made Clark doubt and it is his strongest weakness, thinking he could do something wrong and he is paralyzed. She made a wrong choice, she is in denial and Clark wil pay for it. She has lost her way and she doesn't understand Clark anymore but she uses all what she knows about him to make him change his mind. Here we can say it is like a betrayal
tibbit78
05-03-2009, 01:07 PM
S Guthrie27, I enjoyed reading your review on Beast.
Dresden
05-03-2009, 01:16 PM
I think I do understand. Because you just said it again. You said, "I don't feel compelled to defend someone who already has a good defense team." Why not? If someone "deserves" to be defended, then why not defend them? You're letting what others are doing and saying dictate what YOU do and say.
Great point. Whether I'm in the minority or majority when it comes to my opinion, I will state it just the same. I don't tailor my comments based on what others are saying because I don't feel the need to make any forum even or fair. I post what I feel and that's it. If people are on my side, then good but if I'm outnumbered I really don't care as long as I stay true to my beliefs. And I respect myself for that and respect others who stay true to themselves as well.
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Ditto. The irony is, he's not wrong. He was trying to do the responsible thing but removing Davis/Doomsday without killing him. Chloe is starting to get on my nerves.
See. And that's my biggest problem with this episode. Clark finally decided on a course of action and had committed to seeing it through only to be stopped by Chloe and even though I do get aggravated at the Chloe character I found myself almost more upset at Clark for allowing someone to persuade him to stop what he knew was right.
tibbit78
05-03-2009, 01:23 PM
LaDonna, great review on both Stiletto & Beast. I'm looking forward to reading more of your reviews.
Dresden
05-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Then you have to agree that more recent interviews suggest that their intentions are to make Chloe's actions seem ambiguous at best. Their intentions are to keep the audience guessing, not to tell us that we must accept without question that Chloe is making the right choices in regards to Davis.
Exactly. I haven't stopped by ksite this week but from what I have seen in *other* forums most people have mixed reactions about Chloe's actions, Chloe fans included. Personally, I don't think that Chloe is making the right choices and if TPTB tell me she is then I'll just say that I disagree with them, and that's something that we as fans *can* do. We don't need to mindlessly absorb everything the producers throw at us and accept it as fact. With no offense intended, but these were also the producers that though that making Lana a superhero was the best course of action for that character. In the process it severely regressed Clark and it made him look quite weak. I didn't agree with their interpretation of that character and that character ending, but that's my right and it doesn't make me wrong and it sure as heck doesn't mean I'm having trouble understanding the show for what it is. Producers and writers aren't perfect. And this isn't the first time that I (or I suspect many of us) have really disagreed with the producers and ended up scratching our heads at their logic. This is the series that had Superman go after a married woman. This is the series that made the leading lady into a criminal. This is the series that had Superman mind rape his best friend. This is the series that had Chloe kill a man. This is the series that forgot that Shelby was a male dog. Need I go on? Perfect this show and it's contributers are not, and yes, we all have the right to disagree with them and I'm willing to bet that a lot of the time when we do disagree with them we are in the right.
costas22
05-03-2009, 01:48 PM
Great review Cedric. I don't agree on most of what you are saying, but i like your style.
batfinx
05-03-2009, 02:38 PM
Cedric, I don't generally read your reviews because I find them to be nothing but character bashing but since this episode caused you such shock, horror and pain you've got to ask yourself: do you really understand Smallville? Not the Smallville you WANT but the Smallville that is on the screen?
Ced's humorous reviews have an insight into episodes that encapsulate what is actually taking place on the screen. I can't say exactly what is or was going on in Chloe's mind when she rescued Davis from the Fortress, but whether it was her love of Davis, or because she really believed it was to spare Clark some latent guilt, what she did, in reality, was trade the world's safety for the sake of one person. The next time Davis kills someone, that blood is as much on her hands as it is Davis' hands, just as was foreshadowed in Stiletto. She has chosen a path that cannot end well for anyone.
I'm thrilled with Eternal. I totally "get" where the characters are coming from. Further, I "got" the Lana arc. I disagree with decisions they make but the overall trends are rarely a suprise.
The Lana arc is neither here nor there. She was never a good and close friend to Clark as Chloe has been through the years and certainly never as loyal. Lana has run off on him so many times for her own reasons that it seems to be as much her genetic programming as her hair color. Chloe is a different matter. She has always been there for Clark, not counting her betrayal arc :D Seriously, she's listened to his Lana sob stories over the years and knew like the rest of us Lana was never going to be the one for Clark. Now that support, sometimes crutch, that Chloe has provided is gone and worse, she's slagging off all the guilt on Clark by saying that she's doing it for him. If she dies, what a horrible burden she's given him.
Your review this time convieniently glossed over the final Chlark conversation.
The final Chlark conversation is at the heart of the guilt that Clark is burdened with. She says more than once that what she's doing, she's doing for Clark. How many women does Clark have to beg, with tears in his eyes, not to do something that kills him inside? That's what I got from their phone conversation. Chloe may think she's got some grand scheme to either keep Davis somewhere and hope her special power over him will keep him from ever hurting anyone else, or a much darker scheme where she's sure she's figured out a way to kill him that will prevent him from coming back, but we know that won't work, because Doomsday is alive and well in the future.
Chloe is a hero on Smallville as far as I can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but Chloe is a hero and the leading lady. If the producers interpreted Chloe the way you do, IMO you wouldn't constantly be having to spork yourself.
Doctor Hamilton said people should be warned about Davis and Chloe turned on him and said that he would be betraying her and that would mean betraying Davis and "you sure as hell don't want to be on his bad side." It was a threat to keep him quiet. That was the action of a villain, not a hero. Is that an incorrect "interpretation"?
Eternal showed to me that Chloe understands Clark better than anyone. I believe she is right that Clark would not forgive himself for consigning someone who did not have free will to a life of torture. And Clark should never set out to kill --- how people justify that and claim superior Superman "understanding" is beyond me.
Do you mean Beast? You wrote Eternal so I don't want to misunderstand which episode you're talking about. The Phantom Zone was created for criminals who could not be safely contained anywhere else. Kara, without her powers, survived in the Phantom Zone. Are you suggesting Davis is weaker somehow than Kara? And as a Superman fan I can provide scans of issues involving Superman and the Phantom Zone and the need for such a facility. Davis cannot be killed and as long as he lives, he will kill others. If nothing else, the Phantom Zone provides a place to keep him away from innocent people until some other arrangement can be made. And if Davis really loved Chloe, he'd volunteer to be sent to the Phantom Zone. He did not.
I agree with you but I think Chloe think about the Davis human side too.
In my opinion he's lost or is rapidly losing his 'human' side. He coldly calculated killing Oliver. What happened to the "bad guys only" choice? Now it doesn't matter to him. He'll kill whoever is convenient and expedient. Not that his vigilantism was due to a belief those people needed to die for their crimes, some of which were petty, it was due to his own personal need.
And Cedric, don't change to suit others, keep to your own taste and beliefs. Your reviews are a howl :D
Inkpen23
05-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Cedric, I don't generally read your reviews because I find them to be nothing but character bashing but since this episode caused you such shock, horror and pain you've got to ask yourself: do you really understand Smallville? Not the Smallville you WANT but the Smallville that is on the screen?
I understand the show you WANT Smallville to be but since you spend so much time predicting dire consequences with extreme prejudice that don't typically work out, perhaps it's time to admit you don't really understand how TPTB view Smallville.
I'm thrilled with Eternal. I totally "get" where the characters are coming from. Further, I "got" the Lana arc. I disagree with decisions they make but the overall trends are rarely a suprise. I don't agree with your demonization of Chloe and I'm positive the people who write and produce the show don't agree with you either. You've taken "interpretation" to a new level. Your review this time convieniently glossed over the final Chlark conversation. If Chloe and Clark (as evidenced by the scene you barely discussed) and the producers and writers (as evidenced by their interviews) all understand what is going on, I think you are going to be dissappointed if you think a comeuppance for Chloe is in the works.
Chloe is a hero on Smallville as far as I can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but Chloe is a hero and the leading lady. If the producers interpreted Chloe the way you do, IMO you wouldn't constantly be having to spork yourself.
Eternal showed to me that Chloe understands Clark better than anyone. I believe she is right that Clark would not forgive himself for consigning someone who did not have free will to a life of torture. And Clark should never set out to kill --- how people justify that and claim superior Superman "understanding" is beyond me.
ETA: And you are certainly not vindicated in my eyes. Once again your predictions of Clark dumping Chloe as a friend are completely wrong as he "will spend every second" looking for her and trying to save her.How do you justify that intense devotion from Clark after all that happened? Do you really think he's going to abandon Chloe at this point?
Bravo! Amen! I couldn't have said it better myself. :)
ginevrakent
05-03-2009, 03:08 PM
Ced's humorous reviews have an insight into episodes that encapsulate what is actually taking place on the screen. I can't say exactly what is or was going on in Chloe's mind when she rescued Davis from the Fortress, but whether it was her love of Davis, or because she really believed it was to spare Clark some latent guilt, what she did, in reality, was trade the world's safety for the sake of one person. The next time Davis kills someone, that blood is as much on her hands as it is Davis' hands, just as was foreshadowed in Stiletto. She has chosen a path that cannot end well for anyone.
The Lana arc is neither here nor there. She was never a good and close friend to Clark as Chloe has been through the years and certainly never as loyal. Lana has run off on him so many times for her own reasons that it seems to be as much her genetic programming as her hair color. Chloe is a different matter. She has always been there for Clark, not counting her betrayal arc :D Seriously, she's listened to his Lana sob stories over the years and knew like the rest of us Lana was never going to be the one for Clark. Now that support, sometimes crutch, that Chloe has provided is gone and worse, she's slagging off all the guilt on Clark by saying that she's doing it for him. If she dies, what a horrible burden she's given him.
The final Chlark conversation is at the heart of the guilt that Clark is burdened with. She says more than once that what she's doing, she's doing for Clark. How many women does Clark have to beg, with tears in his eyes, not to do something that kills him inside? That's what I got from their phone conversation. Chloe may think she's got some grand scheme to either keep Davis somewhere and hope her special power over him will keep him from ever hurting anyone else, or a much darker scheme where she's sure she's figured out a way to kill him that will prevent him from coming back, but we know that won't work, because Doomsday is alive and well in the future.
Doctor Hamilton said people should be warned about Davis and Chloe turned on him and said that he would be betraying her and that would mean betraying Davis and "you sure as hell don't want to be on his bad side." It was a threat to keep him quiet. That was the action of a villain, not a hero. Is that an incorrect "interpretation"?
Do you mean Beast? You wrote Eternal so I don't want to misunderstand which episode you're talking about. The Phantom Zone was created for criminals who could not be safely contained anywhere else. Kara, without her powers, survived in the Phantom Zone. Are you suggesting Davis is weaker somehow than Kara? And as a Superman fan I can provide scans of issues involving Superman and the Phantom Zone and the need for such a facility. Davis cannot be killed and as long as he lives, he will kill others. If nothing else, the Phantom Zone provides a place to keep him away from innocent people until some other arrangement can be made. And if Davis really loved Chloe, he'd volunteer to be sent to the Phantom Zone. He did not.
In my opinion he's lost or is rapidly losing his 'human' side. He coldly calculated killing Oliver. What happened to the "bad guys only" choice? Now it doesn't matter to him. He'll kill whoever is convenient and expedient. Not that his vigilantism was due to a belief those people needed to die for their crimes, some of which were petty, it was due to his own personal need.
And Cedric, don't change to suit others, keep to your own taste and beliefs. Your reviews are a howl :D
Bravo! Amen! I couldn't have said it better myself. :D
SVFancross
05-03-2009, 03:13 PM
Do you mean Beast?
Yes.
It was a threat to keep him quiet.
Yes it was, it shows how on the edge Chloe is. I agree she is out of her league but doing what she thinks is right.
Ced's humorous reviews have an insight into episodes that encapsulate what is actually taking place on the screen.
And find the reviews bashing and a biased interpretation of what is happening on screen.
I have no doubt the reviews will continue til the series is over. I just wanted to post my objection.
Then you have to agree that more recent interviews suggest that their intentions are to make Chloe's actions seem ambiguous at best. [quote]
They said both "Chloe did the right thing" and that they want to keep the audience guessing as to her intentions. That's not the same thing as saying her actions are ambiguous -- it says it's not clear. I think Beast made her actions clear and they are heroic.
[quote]And thus you break the forum rule about keeping all conversations about the series and not about other fans.
I was talking about the credibility of the review --- since it IS a review. But if you think it's talking about the fans, I'll stop now. I'm not sure how one can praise a review and it's okay but if you criticize the review, then it's talking about the fans. But I'll drop it.
La Donna
05-03-2009, 03:18 PM
tibbit78, Thank you very much. I seem to have an opinion that fits in the minority on this site.
HeroesUnlimited wrote:
I think I do understand. Because you just said it again. You said, "I don't feel compelled to defend someone who already has a good defense team." Why not? If someone "deserves" to be defended, then why not defend them? You're letting what others are doing and saying dictate what YOU do and say.
I see you are still not truly piecing what I say together with how it would play out in a real situation.
"I don't feel compelled to defend someone who already has a good defense team" means that if I think someone is making an accusation against someone else (Let's say those who think that Lois's journalistic career is a joke because of her desk photo's from Hex) and there are already a huge number of people on the site defending against the accusation (Lois fans giving example after example of why Lois's career as a reporter is actually realistic and shows that she is moving up in her career because of the work she's put into it), then I don't read the thread and feel like I HAVE TO DEFEND LOIS because while I agree with the others who are defending her (and I gave reason as to my viewpoint in my review), she is already being well represented on this site so I can use to my time and energy to do other things without feeling like Lois is getting a raw deal.
That means that I make my own judgement (the pictures on Lois's desk in Hex makes sense given the amount of time in off-screenville her career has been and given what we know about Lois's go-get-um attitude) in my review, then I read the rest of the thread. If I see someone say "Lois's career is a joke and there's no way she would ever get those interviews", and then 50 posts afterward explaining why others disagree (including others repeating what I said myself in my review), then I don't feel COMPELLED to jump on and repeat what so many others including myself have already pointed out. You are taking that to mean that I may see that Lois deserves a defense, but if others are already defending her, then I either walk away without even saying that I also think Lois is right or I jump on to defend the other side because they don't have enough people on it. Both of those two interpretations are incorrect, and therefore your view on my actions is incorrect.
My views DO NOT CHANGE based on what the majority think or feel. My deciding who to post about IN GENERAL is not based on what others think or feel or do. The absolute only thing this is about is whether I should take some of MY TIME to devote to structuring a logical defense that I have already given and others have already given because I feel someone deserves to be defended. I defend people who deserve it, BASED ON HOW I SEE THE CHARACTER AND THEIR ACTIONS. However, I won't waste my time just to defend every character against every accusation that I disagree with. If you do that then you have much more time on your hands then I do. Since I do not have EXTENSIVE leisure time or the desire to read each thread and defend the characters against each and every false accusation, then I have to choose how I spend my time on this forum.
If a thread is saying "Chloe's worse than Oliver", and I don't believe Chloe is worse than Oliver and when I read the thread I see most of the posts are accusing Chloe of being worse than Oliver, then I FEEL COMPELLED TO DEFEND HER. Again, look up the definition of the word compelled. I would never switch my argument and join the majority opinion just because others think Chloe's worse than Oliver. I would never refuse to defend someone innocent just because it's the popular viewpoint.
I post on this board all the time without feeling COMPELLED TO. I think you should see what COMPELLED really means. To say that I'm letting others dictate what I do would only be accurate in the sense that anyone who reads these threads is dictated by everything that every other person writes to determine if they will respond or not. In that sense, we are all dictated by what others write. It's called a forum.
ginevrakent
05-03-2009, 03:27 PM
Yes it was, it shows how on the edge Chloe is. I agree she is out of her league but doing what she thinks is right.
Oliver thinks what he is doing is right. Does that absolve him of any guilt, if his manner of dealing with the Doomsday situation fails? A lot people do things they believe are noble or heroic. So many of history's atrocities have been committed by those who thought that what they were doing was right.
And find the reviews bashing and a biased interpretation of what is happening on screen.
A review is always going to be a biased interpretation. Even historians who analyze the writings of figures like Lincoln, Churchill, and Marx do so with some bias. There is no way to write a review that is not biased.
I have no doubt the reviews will continue til the series is over. I just wanted to post my objection.
Objections are great, but questioning somone's ability to understand the show is not.
They said both "Chloe did the right thing" and that they want to keep the audience guessing as to her intentions. That's not the same thing as saying her actions are ambiguous -- it says it's not clear. I think Beast made her actions clear and they are heroic.
The definition of ambigious=not clear. It is the same thing. You are right. They want the audience to keep guessing so telling someone that they should stop guessing because TPTB have made their intentions clear is hypocritical. Everyone has a right to their own opinion of Chloe's motives. You think she is being heroic. I think Chloe thinks she is being heroic, but her motives are not entirely heroic.
I was talking about the credibility of the review --- since it IS a review. But if you think it's talking about the fans, I'll stop now. I'm not sure how one can praise a review and it's okay but if you criticize the review, then it's talking about the fans. But I'll drop it.
Dropping it sounds like a good idea.
SGuthrie27
05-03-2009, 04:22 PM
Thanks to tibbit78, too! I really appreciate the shout-out. I'll try to do my "Injustice" review next week... well... JUSTICE! LOL! :D
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
La Donna
05-03-2009, 04:45 PM
I agree with the others, SGuthrie27, you had one of the funniest reviews I've read on here. Really good job.
Denegation 15
05-03-2009, 04:53 PM
But isn't it an opinion to not like someone's opinions? :/
I say, let everyone just say what they want.
Though preferably not insult people, just disagree with their opinions.
tibbit78
05-03-2009, 05:00 PM
I enjoyed reading everyone's reviews on Beast, whether they're short reviews or long reviews.
I love reading Kryptonsite's fans' postings.
HeroesUnlimited
05-03-2009, 05:03 PM
I see you are still not truly piecing what I say together with how it would play out in a real situation.
"I don't feel compelled to defend someone who already has a good defense team" means that if I think someone is making an accusation against someone else (Let's say those who think that Lois's journalistic career is a joke because of her desk photo's from Hex) and there are already a huge number of people on the site defending against the accusation (Lois fans giving example after example of why Lois's career as a reporter is actually realistic and shows that she is moving up in her career because of the work she's put into it), then I don't read the thread and feel like I HAVE TO DEFEND LOIS because while I agree with the others who are defending her (and I gave reason as to my viewpoint in my review), she is already being well represented on this site so I can use to my time and energy to do other things without feeling like Lois is getting a raw deal.
That means that I make my own judgement (the pictures on Lois's desk in Hex makes sense given the amount of time in off-screenville her career has been and given what we know about Lois's go-get-um attitude) in my review, then I read the rest of the thread. If I see someone say "Lois's career is a joke and there's no way she would ever get those interviews", and then 50 posts afterward explaining why others disagree (including others repeating what I said myself in my review), then I don't feel COMPELLED to jump on and repeat what so many others including myself have already pointed out. You are taking that to mean that I may see that Lois deserves a defense, but if others are already defending her, then I either walk away without even saying that I also think Lois is right or I jump on to defend the other side because they don't have enough people on it. Both of those two interpretations are incorrect, and therefore your view on my actions is incorrect.
My views DO NOT CHANGE based on what the majority think or feel. My deciding who to post about IN GENERAL is not based on what others think or feel or do. The absolute only thing this is about is whether I should take some of MY TIME to devote to structuring a logical defense that I have already given and others have already given because I feel someone deserves to be defended. I defend people who deserve it, BASED ON HOW I SEE THE CHARACTER AND THEIR ACTIONS. However, I won't waste my time just to defend every character against every accusation that I disagree with. If you do that then you have much more time on your hands then I do. Since I do not have EXTENSIVE leisure time or the desire to read each thread and defend the characters against each and every false accusation, then I have to choose how I spend my time on this forum.
If a thread is saying "Chloe's worse than Oliver", and I don't believe Chloe is worse than Oliver and when I read the thread I see most of the posts are accusing Chloe of being worse than Oliver, then I FEEL COMPELLED TO DEFEND HER. Again, look up the definition of the word compelled. I would never switch my argument and join the majority opinion just because others think Chloe's worse than Oliver. I would never refuse to defend someone innocent just because it's the popular viewpoint.
I post on this board all the time without feeling COMPELLED TO. I think you should see what COMPELLED really means. To say that I'm letting others dictate what I do would only be accurate in the sense that anyone who reads these threads is dictated by everything that every other person writes to determine if they will respond or not. In that sense, we are all dictated by what others write. It's called a forum.
On the contrary. I understand perfectly. I do find it curious, however, that if you don't think there's anything wrong with your "methods" why you felt the need to write such a long post defending yourself. I get it. In fact, I got it before. If you believe that a character (who has come under some kind of attack) is being "defended" well by others, you won't bother doing the same. That's where you and I disagree. If I believed a character was unfairly under attack, I would still put my two cents in, even if everyone else did too. That doesn't mean I'd have to write a book. It could just be a sentence or two. In fact, I wish MORE people on K-Site would be more succinct. Some people write a lot, but actually "say" very little. Long story short, I don't let what others post dictate what I'm going to post. If something bothers me, I'll speak up about it no matter if 1 person already has or 1,000. You obviously don't agree and that's fine. If everyone agreed on everything, the world would be a pretty boring place.
ColdPlay3r
05-03-2009, 05:39 PM
meh
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SVfan87
05-03-2009, 05:53 PM
LOVED IT. kept me on my toes. favorite scenes include the jimmy/oliver/davis scene, oliver giving chloe a tongue lashing (I could really feel how upset he was.. justin hartley played that well), and of course the opening dream scene. i wish it wasn't a dream (except for the hanging corpse part.. that can stay in dreamland). davis was just too cute trying to impress chloe. for what wasn't so good- instead of clearing up chloe's motives i was even more confused by the end of the episode. i just dont get what she's doing. or rather what she thinks she's doing. but surprise of the evening- jimmy! when did he get so tough? i'm loving it. and aaron ashmore is doing an AMAZING job. i'm glad they're letting him stretch his acting legs a little bit. he's playing his scenes so well. but he still needs to get off the drugs. davis's creepy obsessiveness is out of this world. he's another actor doing well. everyone was just great. i enjoyed every minute. i hope the last 2 episodes of the season are straight knockouts.
SGuthrie27
05-03-2009, 06:24 PM
La_Donna, you just made my day! Thank you very much! I enjoy making people laugh; it's much easier for me in writing than it is verbally, believe me. I enjoy reading your stuff, too. It's always nice to meet posters who are "fair and balanced" in their opinions and always do their best to be respectful to other posters while still sticking to their feelings on the issue. This has been an interesting debate to read!
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
nopainnogain
05-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Chloe insists that she will give up her life to tame DD's beast and save clark, but if that were true, why didn't she go to the PZ with him when there was an opportunity? No more Chloe, no more Doomsday, and the cast can get a two week start on vacation. The writers aren't thinking.
amalie
05-03-2009, 10:35 PM
What a nice thing to say :) Thank you! No, she hasn't posted her review yet, but she is working on it. ;) Apart from real life, I have mixed feelings about Beast and needed to take a step back to process it all.
You're welcome. Thanks for the heads up, I'll be watching out for your review, as always :)
cloisthelegendbegins
05-03-2009, 10:37 PM
USUAL LONG POST WARNING. Skip at will... :)
Between real life and mixed feelings about this episode, I've taken my time with a review this week. Wasn't sure I was going to bother tbh. But that feels like quitting, and I'm not there yet, so I let things mull over some between views and here I am. And yes, if the show tries to be clever, I'll be tough on it. Here's the thing with being clever – it has to make sense. And with that in mind:
Previously on Smallville...
Davis: Forgive me Father for I have sinned. I have hurt many people... that I care about...
I have to admit. Much as I was dreading this after the train wreck of Eternal, the recap montage is GREAT. This season has been exploring grey areas, which to me is fascinating. I'm not saying Smallville has never done that before, but apart from Lex, IMO they have never explored it in this much detail (and certainly not with the show's heroes). I think this montage highlights the grey areas, and not just from the POV of Davis and Chloe. We have Tess and her misguided attempts to get Clark to become the hero the world needs – which is more to do with the kind of hero SHE needs. We have Jimmy and his painkiller addiction – which, as clichéd as it may be, (particularly when the seeds were sown with the reveal of an addictive parent) is his way of numbing more than physical pain. We have Davis seeking redemption without facing his guilt and paying the price – which, as good a person as he was at the beginning of the season, also makes him someone who doesn;t accept responsibility for his actions (and the good person he once was would know that - particularly one who is Catholic and raised with the belief of hell-fire and damnation). We have Oliver fighting for the greater good as the Green Arrow with the Justice League – which this season has seen him cross the line into the territory of a vigilante by handing out what he considers to be 'justice' and killing Lex. We have Chloe taking on the role of Watchtower, one of a group of heroes who fight for good and in a position where she is the person who shares information – which is at odds to what she is doing with Doomsday and puts us into the dubious area of whether she's doing it for Clark or Davis or both. And then we have Clark. Who might seem like the odd one out, but realistically has just as many decisions to make as the others, albeit from a much more optimistic viewpoint than everyone else.
Priest: We all have our inner demons. We must learn to control them.
I wish that could be applied to ALL the characters. I particularly wish we could see more of how it affects Clark. Instead, I'm often left feeling like he's a spectator. That was the case in Beast.
The Talon apartment and Chloe is preparing for bed when her phone rings. Davis can't sleep, has had a dream, and despite Chloe's reassurance that he knows he's safe with her – which is somewhat ironic when in reality it's the WORLD that is safe when he's with her – he wants her to come down to see him in the basement. Have to say at this point that the choice of music this year has been fantastic. I love the fact they've gone with more of a Movie soundtrack feel, with instrumental pieces for characters and story-lines punctuated with songs that have the kind of lyrics which perfectly fit the situation at a given time. I felt that way with the lyrics at the end of Bride, Infamous,Turbulence, and again in Beast. As a big fan of meaningful lyrics, to have the words 'What you feel, what you know, you're not in control' sounding as Chloe opens the door to the basement is very apt for where Chloe is right now. She's in a situation over her head and her mental state in Stiletto should tell her that. Plus she's known since Eternal that Davis is immortal. If she's the only thing that can control the beast, what will control it when she's gone? Is it only a few generations of the human race that matter? Is she planning on finding a way to live forever? Or does she see this as a way of buying time? As a viewer, I would like to know these things so that I don't end up looking at the screen and thinking Chloe is making the kind of foolish decisions someone so smart should know better than to make. Particularly with her experiences of late and in the past when it comes to all things Kryptonian.
From the rose petals strewn on the staircase, to the kiss and make out session against the wall before Chloe noticed the trail of blood on the basement floor, this scene was alienating me at a rapid speed. Chloe was losing my sympathy at the end of Eternal, she pulled it back in Stiletto to a certain extent, and I was wavering at the start of Beast. If this hadn't been a dream sequence, I'd immediately have swung back to the side of the unsympathetic.
Chloe: Davis, is that blood?
Davis: What did you think was gonna happen?
The sight of a torn-in-half Clark, both brutal and symbolic, thankfully snapped Chloe back to reality. Depending on your beliefs, dreams are a manifestation of our hopes, deepest desires and fears all wrapped into one. In which case this dream tells me several things about Chloe's state of mind. She still sees the good guy in Davis despite the things he has done. She knows she's attracted to him and has feelings for him. She knows he has to stay hidden, as much for the safety of the people outside as his own. And deep down, she knows the threat he is to Clark and what could happen – as manifested in the sight of the torn in half-Clark in the same scarecrow pose as we had in season one. When she asked about the blood trail and Davis asked her what did she think was gonna happen, he spoke for a great many viewers who are having difficulty understanding her thought process in all of this. I'll admit I'm one of them. I don't understand why she can still be dreaming about a romantic encounter with Davis having hidden bags of body parts for him. I don't know how hearing:
Davis: Without you, the man that I want to be doesn't exist.
… doesn't sound alarm bells for the woman who is normally so incredibly smart and able to read a situation and see the dangers in it. Not only is Davis saying the good man he wants to be doesn't exist without her, it also leans towards an obsession with her that places some of the responsibility for his actions in the lap of another. That's not love, I'm sorry but it's not. Part of loving someone is wanting the best for them, it's the need to protect them from pain, it's being as strong and as good a person on your own as you possibly be so you can stand side-by-side with that person through good and bad. Davis is NOT the kind of guy Chloe would fight for under normal circumstances, particularly now that she knows what he is and the things he has done. She wouldn't be looking for ways to hide him, she would be looking for ways to help him, yes (and she would use everything and everyone at her disposal to that end) but she would NOT condone the fact he's a mass murderer by allowing him to get off scot-free. The fact he was created specifically to be a killing machine should also have alarm bells sounding in her head. Where is the common sense and intelligence she's so famous for? It's the biggest problem I have with this arc frankly. There's exploring grey areas and there's deconstruction of a characters existing personality to do it. Smallville has done the latter to make this story work IMO. The show-runners have PURPOSEFULLY left her motivations open to interpretation for the sake of dramatic effect and to open debate among the fans (at their own admission). I hate it. I want to root for Chloe, to understand her dilemma and for her actions to MAKE SENSE – which is the basis of all storytelling. Instead I'm left watching certain scenes and asking 'Chloe? What the HELL are you doing?!' And it all keeps coming back to continuity for me. Any other character less aware of all things Kryptonian (and Clark's feelings about protecting the world, the line he won't cross to do it, how many lives are at stake with a monster like Doomsday, Clark's ability to feel guilt for everything from a stubbed toe to global warming, the kind of network Chloe has to go to for help, how much she knows Clark cares about the people closest to him, etc.) would have been easier to understand in this situation. Instead the fact it's CHLOE SULLIVAN and the way the show has purposefully chosen to make things obscure and open to interpretation, has led to a storyline I just plain don't like because it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. The fact it's taking up so much screentime, is eating up Clark's screentime (and yes I know TW is directing the next episode but this is a trend, not a one-off) and is all being done without Clark's knowledge or the belief he is mature enough to handle the situation his own way and live with the consequences BUGS THE HELL out of me.
Opening Credits and we're still at The Talon, where Chloe is making coffee. Enter Clark with the latest copy of The DP. Seems Davis the serial killer has made the front page thanks to Tess (wonder who got the byline on THAT little piece of breaking news. You know, the story first hinted at by Lois in Toxic, followed up by Jimmy in Turbulence and again by Clark in Eternal), and since there's been another body found, Clark suspects that Davis isn't dead. You'd think someone might have known this might happen when they put body parts in a dumpster. It's not like harboring a serial killer would involve covering your tracks, is it? Or that we're dealing with someone who is mega-smart about helping people keep secrets. Yes folks, we call this a PLOT DEVICE. Heaven forbid Clark might have worried about Davis coming back to life any other way than having the evidence waved in a banner headline underneath his nose. That might make him look smart! Instead we get:
Clark: Chloe, he's come back from the dead before.
Why didn't that occur to you at the end of Eternal, Clark? You were certain he was dead then, despite the fact you'd made the assumption he was Doomsday and despite the fact Jor-El had told you enough about Doomsday to make you doubt he could be killed. Oooh, a plot device that doesn't make sense in the continuity? I just love those. Chloe continues to lie to Clark's face with the answering line of:
Chloe: Not from meteor rock.
What gets me about this explanation isn't the fact it's a plausible answer to Clark's concerns, or even that Chloe lies so convincingly and turns it around to make it Clark's paranoia, even though he hasn't shown any evidence of that paranoia. It's that Clark doesn't question it.
The Ace Of Clubs and Oliver is having the Smallville equivalent of a business lunch. They STILL haven't fixed the boardroom since Toyman blew it up in Requiem yet Ollie has managed to have Lex's old office redecorated complete with a Queen family crest the size of a bus? They're discussing the new Luthorcorp having a green image similar to the one Tess touted as her reason for being on a bus in Plastique. They've decided on a Geo-Thermal energy project as the photo-op when Jimmy interrupts and wants to talk to Oliver about something important... *tries to think of when Ollie and Jimmy became such good friends*...Yet Jimmy is apparently on good enough terms with Oliver to hit him for a loan. Ollie's not dumb – he knows it's not to fix Jimmy's car, despite Jimmy's determination it is. Though how Ollie knows that remains to be seen. We now know Jimmy is lacking in both a job (because he was fired from the club), and basic good manners when hitting someone for a loan (because he said he knew it was a business meeting, yet didn't wait until Oliver was done). Oliver holds out the hand of friendship (despite the fact they're supposedly already friends) and after a little back and forth where both actors did a good job of trying to convince the audience they had a relationship we've never been shown onscreen, Jimmy leaves affronted by the drug user accusation. Would have been a better scene if there'd been any set up for it. Instead it didn't make sense from the POV of continuity and was therefore another plot device that didn't make sense. Imagine my joy.
Chloe is talking to Dr. Hamilton in a car on Metropolis' most famous street. Yay! She's being the Chloe I know and using the resources available to her to find a solution to the problem! Now THAT'S more like it! He seems incredulous she's caring for Davis in her basement.
Dr. Hamilton: Who else knows about this?
Chloe: No-one. Not even Oliver. And I came to you because he can't be trusted.
Said Watchtower to a fellow Oliver Queen employee about the man who not only pays them, but set up the Justice League and works to help people keep secrets while fighting for the greater good by pooling both manpower and resources. You're losing me again, Chloe.
Chloe: Oliver killed Lex Luthor.
Said Chloe Sullivan who had killed Sebastian and tried to kill Davis – BETRAYING her employer and friend and making her position as Watchtower untenable. But hey, it's okay co it's all for Clark, right? Meanwhile the one thing that had given me cause for excitement with Chloe has just been ripped out from under me. The Chloe Sullivan I know would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS have stooped this low. I could cry for what this storyline has done to her. Is there ANYONE she isn't alienating herself from this season?
Chloe: And the stakes are too high to have someone involved who can't think clearly.
She was hunched beside a dumpster weeping uncontrollably a week ago; her hands covered in the blood. She's dreaming of Clark ripped in half. She's just jetisoned her position as Watchtower – the one thing that gave her a direction and purpose after everything she's been through. Everyone she's ever trusted or who has helped her or cared about her, she's pushing away. This isn't someone thinking clearly. It's someone on the verge of a nervous breakdown who thinks they know better than everyone else, despite ignoring the lessons of past experiences.
Chloe:You were the only person I could turn to for a cure.
As opposed to Oliver, who has resources at his command that may go beyond Dr. Hamilton, John Jones who knows about all things alien before and since Clark's birth, and Clark – the best friend who doesn't believe in killing someone, is a fellow Kryptonian with a giant fortress of Kryptonian knowledge and was AGAINST Davis taking his own life. She knew everyone else would have a problem with what she's doing, THAT'S what this is about. When she gets out of the car, Davis is out of the basement. And here's where it falls into the realms of bunny-boiling land folks. He's been looking at pictures of her, holding strands of her hair, but none of it works. She has to BE THERE to calm the beast. Instead of keeping control over the situation, the problem is escalating. Does this occur to Chloe? Does she consider the fact it might get to the point where she can't leave him for five minutes?
Davis: Chloe, I can't be away from you now.
The solution to this? Show a guy clearly on the edge that he's being hunted as the Cornfield Killer, thereby upping his angst levels as you demonstrate the reason he can't leave the basement, regardless of what he's just told you about the fact you can't leave him alone. That then leads to Davis acting as the voice of reason and pointing out the problems of her helping him while he's being hunted. It's not good when the obsessive Kryptonian serial killer makes more sense than the heroine. What happens when the cops find her, he asks. Good question considering there might have been Talon related trash along with those body parts and nobody checked or stopped to think about that. Chloe's solution?
Chloe: Then we leave.
Wherever it is had better be a cabin in deserted woods, miles from anywhere, with a vegetable plot so they can grow food, because if you can't be parted from him Chloe, then it's not like you can get a job to pay for things. PLUS it takes you even further away from anyone who might be able to help you. Do we even have a contingency plan? What happens if anything happens to you? What happens when you die of old age? So not only are we saying a few generations from now the safety of humanity doesn't matter, we're saying that what happens to Clark at that point doesn't matter either because you'll be dead so you won't be there to see it happening?
Luthorcorp and Oliver is working when Clark appears to tell him he checked the place where Davis was buried and the body is gone. Yay Clark for continuing to investigate despite appearing to believe what Chloe had told him without question! Oliver asks why someone would steal the body. Clark says it doesn't look like he was dug up, it looks like something clawed it's way out. Nice homage to the Doomsday that clawed out of the ground in the comic book version of The Death Of Superman. Foreshadowing the future? Time will tell.
Clark: It went after Chloe before. I think it may try again.
Oliver: Have you warned her yet?
This concern is completely in character and when paralleled against Chloe's actions and her betrayal of Oliver to Hamilton, makes how out of character she is behaving even harder to take.
Clark: She thinks I'm being paranoid.
Oliver: Paranoid? She knows he's obsessed with her, right?
Which just goes to show that Oliver is acting as the voice of the audience here. His disbelief also demonstrates how easily Clark accepts the things she says, even if he did continue to investigate on his own. Oliver tends to confront things head on and question them, allowing both himself and the audience to understand what's going on – SHOWING not TELLING. Clark tends to listen and leave us wondering what in hell is going on in his head while someone else informs both him and the audience of what is going on in the form of exposition – TELLING not SHOWING. (Oliver's way is the right one in writing terms BTW). Having him investigate the grave site was a good move and most certainly showed him as being pro-active. But by having him say something to Chloe about looking into things in the earlier scene – even if it was just to put his mind at rest – it would have made him look better AND would have upped the pressure levels on Chloe, making her decision to leave Smallville with Davis seem a smidge more understandable.
Clark: I need to head to the fortress to see if I can't find a way of sending Doomsday to a place he can't hurt anyone again.
Which backs up my theory that Clark would have helped Chloe find a solution to the problem if she'd bothered to ask him for help. The guy who doesn't believe in killing. The guy who didn't want Davis to take his own life. The guy who tried to stop Chloe from killing Davis.
Oliver: Kick his ass, Clark. Get this thing out of our lives once and for all.
But it's never that simple for Clark and he sticks to his guns. It would still be taking a life, and despite the brief moment he had in Requiem when he considered breaking that rule (so Lana could tell him not to) he has stuck to that code no matter what the characters around him think or do. I admire him for that, but I'm sick of the other characters seeing it as a weakness. The simple fact is they never trust his judgement. If they DID they would allow him to make the kind of big decisions they keep telling him he should make. It's a contradiction.
Clark: Doomsday is my problem and I will handle it.
It would be nice if he was given the opportunity to try. Learning from the experiences of those around him is one thing. Not being allowed to have experiences of his own is another.
At Isis Chloe is talking to Dr. Hamilton and telling him she's down to her last card and doesn't want to play it. She tells Hamilton there has to be a cure. Because there was a cure for every other Kryptonian she's ever met who couldn't control their basic nature? Hamilton says something scientific about nuclei being in a constant state of mutation and when he tried to destroy a cell it got stronger. You'd have thought little alarms would have been ringing in Chloe's head again. But no, she tries to get Hamilton to let her bring Davis to the lab – despite telling him earlier she couldn't do that. He doesn't want Davis there. Seems EVERYONE but Chloe can see the potential danger. Hamilton – a man of SCIENCE – says that sometimes changes to the body can be brought about by intense emotions like love, hate... obsession. I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense the way the writer wanted it to. It's true that intense emotions can have a chemical reaction in the body, and those emotions are relative to a state of mind, but there are certain basics that underlie much of that process, and some that would over-ride the simplicity of Hamilton's explanation. For example, DNA has a much more direct effect on the body. You know – like the DNA he's just worked with that is in a constant state of mutation. Now he's telling Chloe that LOVE might stop Davis from succumbing to the coding of his DNA? That Davis' obsession with her is stronger than the basic instincts he was BRED to have? Davis chose to kill as a way to keep the beast at bay. Instead he killed more and more often. Now he's obsessed with Chloe and being near her keeps the beast at bay. But guess what? He needs her there more and more and now she can't leave him alone. It's the same thing all over again. He keeps reverting to the basic nature of his DNA. But Dr. Hamilton doesn't see it that way. He offers those emotions as a reason why Chloe is able to contain the beast. If a character is going to speculate on the reasons why something happens to turn a man into a monster and that character is a scientist, his hypothesis should be based on science. Temperance Brennan from Bones would rip this guy's logic apart in ten seconds flat. And in the same time slot on a Thursday night...
Chloe: Which is why my presence stops him from morphing.
Glad we're using the required clear thinking here Chloe. Let's not debate things or do any research. Let's not question the DNA aspect even though it was the 'revert to our basic nature' argument that made you second guess closing that basement door at the end of Eternal. I really, REALLY miss Chloe.
Hamilton: Chloe, this creature puts us all in danger. We need to warn people.
Chloe: You don't want to do that. You betray me, you betray Davis, and you sure as hell don't wanna be on his bad side.
Anyone else see shades of the passive-agressive Lana conversation with Dr. Grohl about the power suit here? And again let me just point out this is the official co-ordinator of the Justice League, speaking to a fellow employee of the boss she's betrayed and encouraging him not to share the information he has with the very people who may be able to help her. But Chloe knows best. How many contradictions does this plot need? When does it start to make sense? Is there enough time for it to make sense when we're two episodes from the finale? I have my doubts.
Hamilton: But if you do have this power over him, then it's all on you. You're the only cure.
Another example of getting one character to say something that justifies the actions of another - dumbing down one character to make the decisions of another character look better. Speaking of which, here comes Clark. He tells her Davis is still alive, she downplays it with crap about how he'll eventually turn up and CLARK DOESN'T THINK THAT'S STRANGE. The girl who has ALWAYS pointed out dangers to Clark cos he was too dumb to see them for himself and who told him at the start of this episode he was being paranoid about the creature created to KILL HIM is now telling him NOT TO WORRY because Davis will eventually turn up on the six o'clock news and Clark DOESN'T SEE THAT AS STRANGE.
Clark: Well I intend to find him and bring him to the Fortress before that happens. I got a faint signal from the console but I found the crystal that Brainiac used to release Zod.
Chloe: Okay. Putting aside my serious mistrust of all things Brainiac...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you ignore the Brainiac problem last time? Didn't you see it as a 'gift' rather than a problem until it was too late?
Chloe:... how is the crystal gonna help?
Clark: It's gonna open up a portal to the Phantom Zone.
Chloe: Clark, you can't send Davis there.
Clark: Chloe, he has killed over fifty people. He put Jimmy in the hospital. There is nothing more I can do for him.
Chloe: I'm talking about you. I mean, what if when you open the portal it sucks you in?
Clark: You once told me, that if there was no other choice, that you hoped I would put the good of the world first.
Chloe: Exactly. And loosing you is not good for the world.
Clark: It's a risk I have to take!
Let's recap. Clark found a solution that wouldn't kill Doomsday, Davis could take responsibility for his crimes the way anyone with a conscience would, in a place that meant the rest of the human race is safe – including the woman he loves. Chloe's knee jerk reaction to that is Clark can't send Davis there. Clark defends his position by spelling out everything Davis had done and saying there was nothing more he could do for him. Right on the first part. I would argue the second. But it's not like he's been given all the information or the chance to search for another solution. Chloe says she's talking about Clark, which contradicts what she said about being worried about Davis. She argues Clark could get sucked into the Phantom Zone with Davis. Clark brings up her argument about putting the lives of the many first. Thus demonstrating the kind of decisions a hero makes and will have to make many times in the future if he really is the hero the world needs. Chloe says loosing him is not good for the world, contradicting the theory that the good of the world comes first which in turn contradicts what's SHE'S DOING in a 'do as I say, not as I do' manner. It also says that Clark IS the hero the world needs, contradicting the decision he has just made as exactly that kind of hero.
Is she trying to save Clark? Is she trying to save Davis? Is she trying to save both? Does she think Clark IS the hero the world needs? Or does she think he needs others to make decisions for him because he's incapable of thinking for himself? Is it a multiple choice plot? Chloe then offers to help and sends Clark on a wild goose chase to Alaska where she claims there have been murders similar to the ones Davis committed. Clark doesn't question why she didn't bring it up before and instead goes super-speeding off to Alaska. He's once again dumbed down for the sake of the plot. As he always did with Lana, he's accepting what Chloe says at face value. At heart, like Lana, and like he wants to believe about all people, he thinks Chloe is a good person. She would never do anything to betray him. She would never do anything bad. He can forgive her for the morally questionable. At best this makes him naïve – something Superman can be guilty of at times, so I can understand it in a young Clark Kent.
Back at the Talon, Oliver walks in and goes upstairs to find Jimmy stealing money from his ex. Before Oliver can talk sense into him, he's hit over the head and Jimmy is left facing the very guy who helped set him out on the path of self-destruction. Davis knocks him out too and the next thing they know Oliver and Jimmy are waking up tied to pillars in the basement. So much for keeping people safe by hiding a serial killer in a basement. Oliver fears for Chloe's safety when he realizes where they are. Davis appears and says Chloe saved him. Jimmy doesn't believe him. Davis says he shouldn't upset him. Oliver's comment about horns and Bridezilla leads to one of the most gripping moments of the episode for me: Jimmy's realization that Davis is the beast that crashed his wedding, put him in the hospital and basically ruined his life. Chloe calls Davis to let him know she's on her way home, Davis tells her to hurry – he can feel himself changing and he needs her to come back and stop it. Oliver calls out for her to stay away. Chloe doesn't recognize the voice, Davis tells her some guys broke into her apartment. She wants to know why he left the basement, he says he thought she was in danger. Chloe says to trust her and let them go, Davis says as soon as they're out of Smallville. How is he doing that if they've left? That line doesn't make sense. He says just come home, she says she'll be there as soon as she can. When he hangs up, Jimmy provokes the beast with a line of questioning incredibly close to the truth. Oliver tries to stop him. Jimmy loses his temper. Oliver tries to get Davis to chill out; Chloe will be back soon. Davis says he hopes so cos otherwise he'll have to kill one of them to control the beast. I'm at the point where I'm cynical enough about this storyline to wonder if Chloe will clear away the body bags for him. Jimmy volunteers as the one to be killed.
Jimmy: Do you really think that Chloe could ever love you? Whatever lies that you told her, she's going to find out the truth eventually, and when she does...
If only that were true. As to the part about loving him? Your guess is as good as mine. Davis flips and starts pressing Jimmy's eyeballs into his skull.
Oliver: Chloe's never gonna forgive you for that, do you understand?!
She's forgiven him for ripping Jimmy apart at their wedding, for the fact he lied and made Jimmy look like a lunatic when he tried to tell everyone the truth. What's a little eyeball mushing? It's all about saving Clark after all. Or is it? Your guess is as good as mine. Davis realizes Oliver is right, so he knocks Jimmy out and turns on Oliver. He says sometimes the monster really does get the girl. :confused: Upstairs Clark super-speeds in from Alaska looking for Chloe. He hears Oliver's voice in the basement, zips downstairs and pushes Davis out of the way; demanding to know where Chloe is. Davis asks him what he's gonna do, Clark grits his teeth with determination, swings Davis round, and super-speeds him the hell out of Dodge. Close call Ollie. By the time Chloe gets back, Oliver has a team of his people there, including Dr. Hamilton. Guess she wasn't all that close to home then was she? Jimmy is being stretchered out. Chloe tells Jimmy she's so sorry. Jimmy doesn't look like he believes her. I WANT TO, but since I still don't have a clue what's going on in her head, I'm with Jimmy in feeling like she's betraying everyone close to her. Oliver isn't exactly happy either.
Oliver: You know Chloe, I thought about calling the police. Instead I figured I'd give you a chance to explain yourself before I let them haul you off to prison for harboring a serial killer.
Again acting as the voice of the audience, Oliver does what I thought he'd do in this situation and shows us why Chloe's position as Watchtower is now untenable. She can no longer be trusted. She broke the chain of information. She didn't act like a team player.
Chloe: I should never have left Davis alone. This would never have happened if I'd been here. This is all my fault.
Great. Not only can you do what needs to be done better than Clark, you now have the same sense of guilt for everything that goes wrong. Not that you didn't add buckets to this mess, but what made you think you could control the situation? What was the train of thought? The logic? The previous experience that told you, you could? Is your faith in Clark so lacking? Are your emotions for Davis so consuming? What about your role as Watchtower? What about the people closest to you who might have helped? Are they in any less danger NOT knowing? So many questions, so little help from the characterization, the plot, the action or the exposition. Again I WANT to be sympathetic to Chloe, but she's losing me, because I STILL DON'T KNOW what's going on.
Oliver: When did you become one of the bad guys, huh?
Did she or was she simply misguided, well-intentioned, naïve or all of the above? Your guess is as good as mine. Oliver continues to be the voice of the audience, asking the kind of questions many of us would ask given the opportunity, and giving Chloe the opportunity to clear things up so we understand:
Chloe: For whatever reason, I calm the beast inside him. He needed me.
Oliver: He needed you. So the needs of the cornfield killer outweigh the needs of the many, is that it?
Chloe: It's complicated.
Oliver: Yeah, it's complicated. That's the same thing your psychopathic boyfriend told me.
Chloe: Look, either I keep him with me or let innocent people die.
Oliver: Come on. Chloe if you really believed that you would have handled things a little bit differently, don't you think? Instead what do you do? You cook him dinner, you fluff his pillows, you rock him to sleep!
Chloe: Okay, I know what it looked like from the outside, but trust me, I had the whole thing under control.
Oliver: Chloe, you didn't have anything under control! Speaking as Davis' next victim, I can tell you, your plan was seriously flawed! How did you think this was gonna end, Chloe?
Chloe: I'll find him, okay? I'll fix this.
I call this a wasted opportunity. Saying she did it to protect innocent people is contradicted by keeping him in the basement of a public place and leaving him alone, even after he'd told her he needed her there more than ever. She had it under control is contradicted by the fact Davis still murdered while under her protection and the fact he just tried to murder at least one of the people close to her. She knows how it looked from the outside? Then LET US IN and EXPLAIN IT. Does she admit she's in over her head? Does she say she's doing it for Clark and why? Does she admit she might have got even part of it wrong? No. I'm still finding it difficult to understand, it's still out of character and she's STILL determined she can fix things. In the same way you could handle Brainiac perchance, Chloe? Oliver tells her she won't fix it, because it's now in Clark's hands. He's finally going to finish it. The sense of disappointment Oliver felt in Chloe during this scene was palpable. It echoed how I feel to be honest. In the same way his sense of pride at Clark handling the problem echoes mine, even if it's not in the way Oliver hopes it's being handled. BTW the overuse of the characters names in the dialogue is bugging the crap out of me. Oliver used Chloe's name a minimum of four times in this scene. But then since I don't recognize her either...
At the fortress, Clark super-speeds in and tosses Davis to the ground. Clark tells him it's all that's left of Krypton and that the fortress can help him by sending him to a place where he doesn't have to hide who he is any more.
Davis: A world without Chloe?
Davis' reaction is similar to that of Chloe when Clark mentioned the Phantom Zone. The people who have died or been hurt don't matter, the innocent people who might still die don't matter, that Davis should take responsibility for the things he has done doesn't occur to either of them – even the man who sought redemption from God. Davis gets what he needs and has Chloe by his side, literally for the rest of her days? Isn't that a reward rather than a punishment? The odd random murder doesn't count so long as it's for the greater good? My sympathy for Davis left when he killed Linda Lake. Not that Linda Lake was Little Bo Peep, but he crossed he line then and there. The bodies in the field confirmed it. The lack of consideration for anyone but himself and his obsession for Chloe, set it in stone for me here. Clark argues that if Davis cares about Chloe he would let her go. But Davis, after arguing he didn't choose to be what he is, says she's his one chance to be happy. Even the criminally insane or those judged to be not of sound mind pay a price for the things they've done, and none of them involve a happily ever after to the best of my knowledge. 'It's not my fault' is a very child-like response IMO, as is the way he's clinging to Chloe like a security blanket. I don't even think that Davis the human camouflage is of sound mind any more. Clark tries to open the portal. Clark doesn't want to hurt Davis. Davis tells him he can't. Clark momentarily gets the better of him and opens the portal. Davis says if he goes, he's taking Clark with him. Davis seems to weaken. He's seen Chloe. She's standing behind Clark. She's gone to the farm and stolen Clark's key then used it to get to the fortress and stop him.
Clark: Chloe, what are you doing?
Chloe: I can't let you do this.
She closes the portal.
Clark: This is the right choice, Chloe. Trust me.
Chloe: Trust you?! Clark the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe that you were willing to force him into a life of hell for all of eternity. Clark, I know you better than anyone. I can't let you do this. You would never forgive yourself for giving up on him.
Self-righteous much? Her tone of voice and attitude throughout this scene turned my stomach. Why is Clark's solution to save the masses more wrong than hers? Why doesn't Davis deserve punishment for what he's done? If he's a good Catholic then he understands the meaning of penance and that murdering fifty people is deserving of a life of hell for all eternity. Chloe isn't protecting an innocent. She's protecting a ticking bomb that has and may well kill innocents again. And she's protecting him because of Clark?! Clark who won't kill him because it means he'll have blood on his hands. That's why Chloe killed Davis last time. Clark who would never forgive himself for giving up on him but was never given the chance to help him. Clark who is incapable of making a decision for the good of the world and living with that decision, who needs a lecture from Chloe and to be told why he's wrong in that self-righteous tone is the guy she thinks the world needs and she has to protect for his own good? So Chloe can make the decision to kill Davis because Clark won't, yet Clark can't send Davis to the Phantom Zone because it's wrong. Chloe can protect Clark from Davis because he's the hero the world needs, but Clark is incapable of doing what needs to be done. Chloe can risk people's lives to help Davis but Clark can't save people's lives by sending Davis somewhere he can't hurt anyone. Chloe can't let Clark feel guilty about Davis but it's okay for Davis not to feel guilty about the people he's murdered. Chloe can sacrifice herself for the greater good by condemning herself to a life on the run with someone she can never leave, whether she wants to or not, yet Clark can't take a chance on sacrificing himself by ending up in the Phantom Zone with Davis. Does anyone else see more than a hint of contradiction? What gives Chloe the right to lecture Clark about right and wrong when she's plainly having so much difficulty with it herself? It's a smorgasbord of grey area. But while Chloe doles out a heavy dose of self-righteous indignation, Clark gets to stand there and look like a scolded child while she disappears with Davis.
Jimmy storms into Oliver's office wanting to know if Oliver has information on the beast. Oliver says no but he thinks the beast Jimmy needs to defeat is inside him. Jimmy doesn't feel he needs a lecture. Oliver says he called him to give him the money he needed to 'fix his car'. Jimmy turns it down. After a little back and forth that could have looked like the beginning of a friendship if we hadn't already been told there was enough of a friendship for Jimmy to come looking for money in the first place, Oliver offers Jimmy a job. He points out all the good things Jimmy has going for him, top of the list being the fact he has good instincts. After a little more back and forth Jimmy accepts the job and starts out on what I would assume is a path of redemption. I'm glad to see this happening. Some people would say he hasn't paid the price for his drug addiction, I would argue his drug addiction WAS the price and it was one he paid for the actions of others. So I'm glad to see him take the first step forwards. I look forward to seeing his character developed in the future as a result of all this. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right? I should email that to Tess so she can compare it to her Judas theory...
Clark is at Isis looking for information on where Chloe might have gone with Davis. Enter Oliver for another of the talks that show us no-one thinks Clark is capable of stepping up to the plate or understanding what's going on. Problem is, when it comes to Chloe and Davis, I think Oliver is right about the latter. Chloe can do no wrong in Clark's eyes in exactly the same way Lana could do no wrong. Chloe wouldn't choose to be with Davis any more than Lana would choose to be with Lex, therefore Chloe must be trapped in the same way Lana was. I get that Clark looks for the best in people, is forgiving and can always find a way of making whatever happens his fault, but can someone please show me the learning curve? Where is the wisdom of experience? How can people look to Clark as an example, then go against the things he would do claiming he's either incapable or unwilling to do them? (or both)
Oliver: Clark, I know you want to save everybody. But eventually you're going to have to make the tough decisions. It's what heroes do.
Then let him make those decisions, stand by them, live with the consequences and LEARN FROM THEM. Stop TELLING HIM what to do and stop DOING THINGS FOR HIM. This show seems to think the second any of those things happen he's immediately one step closer to being Superman. Heaven forbid that should happen.
The end scene has Chloe call Clark. She wants to reassure Clark that she's safe. Clark says she's not.
Chloe: I'm sure everybody's fitting me for a straight jacket right now. But Clark, I do know what I'm doing.
Be nice if the audience did too. And on the subject of obsessive love:
Chloe: But, everything I've ever done, right or wrong, I did it for you.
You didn't want Clark to carry the guilt of sending Davis to the Phantom Zone but you thought you'd call him and let him know you did everything for him? Cause he'll not feel AT ALL guilty about that, will he?
Clark: Admit it Chloe, you had feelings for Davis, that's why you're protecting him.
Chloe: Clark, I'm protecting you. I meant what I said. Condemning Davis to a life as that monster is worse than killing him.
You're protecting Clark because Davis will suffer. Davis the completely innocent, blameless party. Clark who would automatically choose to make an innocent victim suffer a fate worse than death when there were other options. But it's all for Clark. Know what would have helped Clark? TALKING TO HIM. Know what would have given this scene more emotional impact for me? Less of the self-righteous attitude in the fortress. I have a long memory. I can remember two scenes ago even if Clark can't.
Clark: I will find a way to save you.
Chloe: Clark, you're not here to save one person. You're here to save all of us.
Instead of 'Save the cheerleader, save the world' we have 'Save Clark Kent, save the world – but only as long as he has someone there to tell him what to do'. Why does he need someone to tell him what to do? Because people don't TALK TO HIM and give him the information he needs to make an educated decision.
Clark: And you think sacrificing yourself will help me do that. Chloe, you're wrong.
He's right. It's do as I say, not as I do. It adds to his guilt. It gets in his way. It stunts his growth. It's making decisions for him. It's treating him like a child. It's saying he's co-dependent. It's saying he can't become the hero the world needs without help. Why do we fall? So we can learn to get back up. How can we learn that if someone constantly cushions the fall or tries to stop us from tripping up? Chloe has become an over-protective parent. Martha and Jonathan, as much as they feared for his well-being, respected the fact their son would make mistakes. They were there to talk it through with him when he did. If they felt he was taking too much of a risk, they talked it out with him and listened to what he had to say. THAT is parenting. I'm sick to my back teeth of Clark being protected by other people.
Chloe: If there's one thing I've learnt from you. It's that choosing the greater good is never a sacrifice.
Did you also learn that Clark would never want anyone to sacrifice themselves for him? Did you learn that guilt can eat away at him? Because I'm pretty sure that's what your excuse was for stopping him in the fortress. Having said that, this line makes more sense than the majority of reasoning Chloe has done in this episode. Clark's frustration leads him to lash out at a filing cabinet while Chloe wipes away her tears and disappears with Davis.
All in all, this episode was wonderfully acted, well paced, beautifully shot and the music was great. But it tried to be clever and failed because it didn't make sense. Chloe's words contradicted her actions. Her actions contradicted her characterization. Don't get me wrong, without a doubt she's the most interesting character on Smallville right now and this is a fascinating storyline. The latter is great, the former is a problem for Clark Kent. But the main problem is if the show wants to delve into the grey areas, IMO the one constant should be the character who is making the journey. There should be a logical path with a learning curve, clear motivations, and emotions we can understand. Instead, while trying to be clever and to keep fans debating, the show has deliberately left many of those ingredients out of the story. The things that are left out are often every bit as damaging as the things which are put in and are wrong. Davis has had more of a logical path than Chloe this season and no-one can deny there are grey areas in HIS story. We've known Chloe for eight seasons and this year she's been all over the map. The fact this storyline is inevitably going to lead to Clark having to face the consequences of other peoples' actions while shouldering the guilt is a Smallville writing disease. Despite evidence to the contrary, IMO Beast wasn't the worst episode the season by a long shot. I didn't enjoy Clark yet AGAIN being dumbed down and treated like a small child. In Beast, for all it's drama and his attempts at being pro-active, he was made to look like the weakest link while the people around him told him what to do, pointed out the error of his ways and didn't do anything to demonstrate why they were right or why they had faith he would be able to make decisions for the world in the future. If necessary, a life should be sacrificed for the greater good - so long as that life wasn't Clark's, the kind of decision Clark might regret, and regardless of how illogical the decision might be when someone else makes it for him. That was the message this episode left me with. Therefore I give Beast a six out of ten.
Next week is Injustice, directed by Tom Welling. Please let it be a script that doesn't sacrifice Clark on the altar of stalling or while attempting to make someone else look more heroic than him.
ginevrakent
05-03-2009, 11:26 PM
^^Annie, I was looking forward to your review so I was happy to see it this evening.
Thanks for taking the time to write it. You echoed my thoughts and feelings regarding this episode in a spectacular fashion. I am so disappointed in the execution of this storyline. It has done serious damage to characters and eroded my faith in TPTB. It's nice to see I'm not alone in my frustration.
amalie
05-03-2009, 11:40 PM
Wonderful job Annie. I couldn't disagree with a single point you made.
LoveHurts38
05-03-2009, 11:49 PM
Annie great review since skipped it only watched the ending in Youtube...very detailed and compared with other episodes....Thanks.
Fallen One
05-04-2009, 12:24 AM
I'll get to everyone's comments eventually. But I wanted to spend some time and address SVfancross.
I guess a good thing to do before these reviews is to give a warning of sorts. I told a friend earlier today that I hate doing reviews where I mostly rant because on some level I feel that if I do that, I'm not being a true fan of this show. And I know a huge fan of this show.
So when I read over my review I considered editing it and making it lighter for everyone, but then I thought back to the FOS scene. And well.. that was that. I let it rip, no sugercoating. Above all else I want to be honest about how feel about episodes in my reviews. Good or Bad, and no apologies.
For an episode like Beast where I got minimum Clark action - and what little they gave of me Chloe led him around for most of that and finally esmasculated him.. you can expect a not pleasant review at all. The intro basically said what I felt about this episode and what I feel this writer only cares about - Chloe, Chloe, Chloe. The selfless, awesome Chloe.
Episodes where Clark get spat on are garbage to me. Garbage. And though there are parts of every episode where I can say "that was a good scene, or a good line, etc", if I don't think Clark is getting treated correctly the episode won't get a high rating. Power, Requiem, Eternal, and Beast were the 4 lowest rated episodes for me. What do they all have in common? This episode might as well have been Chloe's Requiem. ::Spits:: And she might as well had been replaced by Lana because her actions were something like Lana would do.
Its been 3 days and I'm still disgusted by that FOS scene. That alone dropped it 2 points for me. How many criminals have Clark sent to the PZ? Yet Chloe knows he "would never forgive himself" for doing it to Davis? Those were HER feelings, and she was the one who would feel bad if Davis went to the PZ. Yet she tries to guilt him?? And Clark just stood there? Oh hell no.
As for Chloe, I enjoyed picking apart how foolish, selfish, hypocritical, short-sighted, and suicidal I thought her plan was. How she's intent to stop Clark from doing his job, and how her out of control ego is intent on keeping a guy obsessed with her in her presense just because she loves how much he needs her. I found her little speech at the end to be one of the dumbest things ever on the show, and the perfect example of what a drama queen she's become this season.
Chloe: Clark its going to rain on your head.
Clark: I have an umbrella, its alright.
Chloe: No, I should cover you and get pneumonia.
Clark: But.. I have an umbrella...
Chloe: No Clark its for your own good, I have to do this.
Clark: WHAT are you talking about!? I HAVE an umbrella! You don't have to do this! I already have the solution!
Chloe: I'm doing it for you Clark! Its my destiny!
Clark: Fine, then die, idiot!
^ The conversation might as well went like that. Just complete ridiculousness, almost insanity. EVERYTHING in the world is telling her that its a dumb idea, yet she persists. Her plan has FAIL written all over it.
I think I understand the show quite well. I can already see the writing on the wall for how this is all going to go down. And while I'll be happy with the result in Chloe's case, I won't like what it does to Clark at all. The writer for this episode failed. And there were parts of it I liked, but for the most part I thought it poor and insulting to my intelligence. I gave it a 5. I thought the episode was mere average and nothing more. And I think thats fair.
And now with that said, I'll respond to everyone else in a bit.
Kryptochloe
05-04-2009, 12:26 AM
Hello, and welcome to the second edition of SGuthrie’s Smallville episode reviews, brought to you by Yankee Candle Company and careerbuilder.com, where they really do accept resumes of mediocre photographers/cheap bartenders.
Again, great review!! Keep it on! :)
SGuthrie27
05-04-2009, 05:16 AM
Thanks, Kryptochloe! And Annie, that really was an amazingly well-thought-out review. While I may not completely agree with every piece of what you said, you dissected the components of the episode's and season's plot and characterization in such a way that made it a fascinating read, and you brought up plenty of very valid points. Well done!
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
joemamma
05-04-2009, 05:17 AM
I'll get to everyone's comments eventually. But I wanted to spend some time and address SVfancross.
I guess a good thing to do before these reviews is to give a warning of sorts. I told a friend earlier today that I hate doing reviews where I mostly rant because on some level I feel that if I do that, I'm not being a true fan of this show. And I know a huge fan of this show.
So when I read over my review I considered editing it and making it lighter for everyone, but then I thought back to the FOS scene. And well.. that was that. I let it rip, no sugercoating. Above all else I want to be honest about how feel about episodes in my reviews. Good or Bad, and no apologies.
For an episode like Beast where I got minimum Clark action - and what little they gave of me Chloe led him around for most of that and finally esmasculated him.. you can expect a not pleasant review at all. The intro basically said what I felt about this episode and what I feel this writer only cares about - Chloe, Chloe, Chloe. The selfless, awesome Chloe.
Episodes where Clark get spat on are garbage to me. Garbage. And though there are parts of every episode where I can say "that was a good scene, or a good line, etc", if I don't think Clark is getting treated correctly the episode won't get a high rating. Power, Requiem, Eternal, and Beast were the 4 lowest rated episodes for me. What do they all have in common? This episode might as well have been Chloe's Requiem. ::Spits:: And she might as well had been replaced by Lana because her actions were something like Lana would do.
Its been 3 days and I'm still disgusted by that FOS scene. That alone dropped it 2 points for me. How many criminals have Clark sent to the PZ? Yet Chloe knows he "would never forgive himself" for doing it to Davis? Those were HER feelings, and she was the one who would feel bad if Davis went to the PZ. Yet she tries to guilt him?? And Clark just stood there? Oh hell no.
As for Chloe, I enjoyed picking apart how foolish, selfish, hypocritical, short-sighted, and suicidal I thought her plan was. How she's intent to stop Clark from doing his job, and how her out of control ego is intent on keeping a guy obsessed with her in her presense just because she loves how much he needs her. I found her little speech at the end to be one of the dumbest things ever on the show, and the perfect example of what a drama queen she's become this season.
Chloe: Clark its going to rain on your head.
Clark: I have an umbrella, its alright.
Chloe: No, I should cover you and get pneumonia.
Clark: But.. I have an umbrella...
Chloe: No Clark its for your own good, I have to do this.
Clark: WHAT are you talking about!? I HAVE an umbrella! You don't have to do this! I already have the solution!
Chloe: I'm doing it for you Clark! Its my destiny!
Clark: Fine, then die, idiot!
^ The conversation might as well went like that. Just complete ridiculousness, almost insanity. EVERYTHING in the world is telling her that its a dumb idea, yet she persists. Her plan has FAIL written all over it.
I think I understand the show quite well. I can already see the writing on the wall for how this is all going to go down. And while I'll be happy with the result in Chloe's case, I won't like what it does to Clark at all. The writer for this episode failed. And there were parts of it I liked, but for the most part I thought it poor and insulting to my intelligence. I gave it a 5. I thought the episode was mere average and nothing more. And I think thats fair.
And now with that said, I'll respond to everyone else in a bit.
Amen, and amen!
saltyweeks
05-04-2009, 05:34 AM
Chloe is a hero on Smallville as far as I can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but Chloe is a hero and the leading lady.
Yes!!!:) and a hero in decline facing choices and problems that would have gotten the better of most of us already.
rolling your eyes and making of the show isn't hard to do with something like Smallville, and i guess it's fun for some folks. if i felt that way about so much of the show, though, i wouldn't watch it. i don't see the point in watching a show you're only going to wish was something else. thin line between criticism and ridicule, easy to slip over.
i came to Smallville in the dust of Buffy & Angel (ha, ha) as I was looking for anything out there that could come close to those shows, and finding the landscape barren. Smallville has been my CURRENT favorite for years. now, however, with this season, they are getting the kind of moral depth that is going to throw some of these episodes up there with JW's work.
one thing I loved about those shows was that, despite their titles, they were ensemble pieces, which allowed the supporting characters on the show to really flourish. thus when i hear someone complain that Clark "wasn't on screen enough" or that every show should be all about him-- i can't even related to that.
some of the best episodes of my other favorite series went deep with the supporting characters, allowing them to shine. frankly, Buffy & Angel weren't even my favorite characters on their own shows-- and i thought that was great. it didn't lessen my appreciation of those characters at all. i LOVE Clark, but obviously Lex and Chloe are going to come in ahead of him on any favorite characters list-- i think that's good! it adds richness and context to his world.
Clark's actions take on additional meaning and importance if we really care about those around him.
You know whats unforgiving Chloe!? Your BREATH is unforgiving!! Who the hell are you to come to the FOS and tell Clark what he should feel and how he should feel it when you're the cause for ALL of this! Those are YOUR feelings that you are trying to project on Clark. Its you and ONLY you who don't want Doomsday in the phantom zone, you twit! Why didn't Clark punt her to a small moon!? She's practically begged for it! Disgusting. This scene sucked.
YES.
Thank you, Cedric. Even just reading it was cathartic.
I used to like Chloe, but seriously, that was so wrong. I have no hope left for her character.
Cogito17
05-04-2009, 07:41 AM
One thing that I see several people did not like is the portrayal of Chloe in this episode. I want to say that her being hypocritical, is not necessarily bad writing or a poor portrayal of her character. If people were never hypocritical we wouldn't have words like "hypocrisy" or "hypocrite". We have those words because people really do act like that at times. Portraying a person behaving in such a manner is not bad writing in my opinion, it is showing a complex character with conflicting thoughts and emotions. I think the show has made a strong case for how her head (what she says to Clark/Ollie at times) conflicts with her heart (what she says/does/dreams in regards to Davis), leading to her hypocritical behavior. Being hypocritical is not bad writing, people are hypocrites all the time in real life, and I think it's easy to see where Chloe's hypocrisy is coming from.
Also, just because Chloe makes bad decisions, does not make it a bad episode. Lex made bad decisions all the time, but I still found it was entertaining.
I did not feel that Clark's hesitancy at the fortress when Chloe rescued Davis was unwarranted either. Who (that is regularly on the show) knows Clark better than Chloe right now? I would answer "no one". Thus, I think she was uniquely equipped to say the exact things that she knew would make Clark hesitate. It has been said on the show that Clark's humanity is his greatest strength AND his greatest weakness. In this case Chloe knew that, and used it as the latter.
There is a gray area with a lot of things that happened in this episode. I think to ignore the context and all that is going on is to not give the episode a fair shake. To take the bottomline approach of "Chloe was a hypocrite" or "Clark was weak and didn't put Davis in the PZ" ignores a lot of the context and subtext of the episode in my opinion.
superpal1
05-04-2009, 08:03 AM
I gave it an eight. The episode seemed a little slow for me and I dont think the reason why Chloe gave to Clark about not sending Davis into the Zone was good enough for Clark not to do it. Seemed a little weak to me.
nic25
05-04-2009, 08:42 AM
USUAL LONG POST WARNING. Skip at will... :)
Great Job Annie!...I enjoyed reading your review :)
Dresden
05-04-2009, 09:03 AM
Friends Finale - by Genevieve Sparling
Scene opens in the sitting area of Central Perk. Phoebe, Joey, and Ross are seated.
Ross: So, that's it. I've had enough of denying myself of the things I want. Today, I'm going to tell Rachel that I want her in my life and can't live without her. It's the best thing to do.
Joey: Ooo! You know the best thing to do? Mix peanut butter and tuna. Mmmmm.
Laugh Track - Rachel enters
Ross: Uh, Rach? I was wondering if I could talk to you?
Rachel: (Excited) Oh Ross, just wait one second. I wanted to introduce you all to someone I've just met. She's incredible. Chloe?
Chloe, dressed in all black, turns around and walks over to the group
Ross: Thats... your new friend..?
Chloe: (Shake hands with everyone individually) Hi there. I'm the Chloe. Nice to meet you. The Chloe - that's me. Hi there. Chloe here.
Ross: I know it's soon, but I'm madly in love with her. Oh, I've never felt this way before.
Chloe: Thats because you never met someone like me.
Phoebe: Oh my gosh! You're right!
Rachel: Isn't she something else?
Joey: I'll say. She's just what this finale needs.
Chloe: Well I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but yeah.. it kinda does.
Phoebe: How selfless of you!
Laugh Track - Chandler and Monica enter the room. They are holding their newly adopted baby - played by Davis
Chandler: Well, it's official! We have a baby! Here's the little guy now.
Applause
Baby (Davis): Goo goo. Gaa gaa.
Joey: Aw, isn't he cute. Does the little fella need to be changed?
Baby (Davis): Listen Jack, the only thing I need is Chloe.
Chandler: (noticing Chloe) Whoa! Who's that awesome lady?
Joey: That's Chloe! She's mine!
Chloe: Now now fellas, there's plenty of Chloe to go around.
Laugh Track.
Monica: Normally, I'd be upset that my husband is leaving me, but this woman's awesome! Can she be any more awesome?
Phoebe: I know. I think I'm falling in love with you too.
Joey: But Phoebe, you just got married!
Phoebe: Screw that. This woman's amazing.
Laugh Track
Rachel: Everything worked out. We all have a new great friend. I guess this group isn't ever splitting up.
Clark: Ahh Ahhhhh ahhhhhhhhhh!!
Lois: Clark, Clark, Wake up! Wake up! You're dreaming again!
Clark: Oh my God. Oh my God. Lois. Oh, it’s just you. Oh it was terrible. They were all there. Chloe kept smiling, but not really smiling and all cast of friends were holding hands. They were jumping rope and singing "1,2,3...Chloe likes me." Then when I objected Peterson ran up behind me and hit my leg with a crowbar.
Lois: Shhh. It’s ok, Clark. I warned you that smelling sauce was really paint. Now breathe over here by the fan. You’ll be ok.
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Yep, its gonna be that type of review. Maybe it doesn't need to be this way. I could discuss Rosanne's 6th personality. What? You wanna know about this week's episode of Smallville? Sigh.. You don't want that.. really.. OK.. I warned ya...
Previously ON!
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I haven't had a chance to comment on this review, Cedric, but it's entertaining as usual. I don't agree with every single thing you have stated but overall I can see where you are coming from and I do agree with your general assessment of the episode. You can do satire and humor like no one else I've seen on this forum and your reviews always make me laugh out loud. Thank you for taking the time to write this review. I'm looking forward to reading your next review for this week's episode. It looks like it's going to be a very intense episode!
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Love it, Hate it. What did you think of "Beast"
I gave it a 4 since it didn't really excite me all that much. Next week looks slightly better and with the Injustice League now on the move I'm hoping I can give next week a better rating.
AChloeChick
05-04-2009, 09:40 AM
cedric, since this episode caused you such shock, horror and pain i'm thrilled with eternal. I totally "get" where the characters are coming from. Further, i "got" the lana arc. I disagree with decisions they make but the overall trends are rarely a suprise. i don't agree with your demonization of chloe your review this time convieniently glossed over the final chlark conversation. If chloe and clark (as evidenced by the scene you barely discussed) and the producers and writers (as evidenced by their interviews) all understand what is going on, i think you are going to be dissappointed if you think a comeuppance for chloe is in the works.
chloe is a hero on smallville as far as i can see and that position is supported by producers statements. They push the boundaries on all of the characters to make them more edgy but chloe is a hero and the leading lady. if the producers interpreted chloe the way you do, imo you wouldn't constantly be having to spork yourself.
eternal showed to me that chloe understands clark better than anyone. I believe she is right that clark would not forgive himself for consigning someone who did not have free will to a life of torture. And clark should never set out to kill --- how people justify that and claim superior superman "understanding" is beyond me.
thank you!
saltyweeks
05-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Also, just because Chloe makes bad decisions, does not make it a bad episode. Lex made bad decisions all the time, but I still found it was entertaining.
I wish I'd written that! :) wonderful!!
sarcami
05-04-2009, 12:55 PM
7
Just because of how great Oliver was and how Clark was just before the dreaded FOS scene. Because of that scene I deducted 2 points and 1 point for Chloe annoying the heck out of me. I hope Injustice is better.
LuthorKent90
05-04-2009, 02:34 PM
I liked it purely for the Jimmy/Oliver scenes, and the confrontation between Jimmy and Davis.
As far as Chloes reasoning that it's all done for Clark. I don't get it.
She plans to be on the run her whole life with Davis? Over what?
Clark could've put him away in the phantom zone. Chloe could go on with her life, and the world wouldn't be in danger.
She told Clark that dooming Davis to the phantom zone would destroy him(Clark), and he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis.
How is putting away a monster to protect the world going to destroy Clark?
Davis is still killing. He almost killed Oliver and Jimmy; he could've just let them go when he found them in the apartment, rather than locking them in the basement with him.
Um what did he expect would happen locking himself in with Jimmy and Oliver. :confused:
I agree with everything Oliver said to Chloe.
Aaron was brilliant in it. "Whatever you do Chloe..stay away from that monster."
NoSupeForYou
05-04-2009, 02:35 PM
Great reviews Annie, La Donna and Cedric. Hopefully, Cedric, TPTB aren't building up all of this only to deny us the chance to see Chloe get her comeuppance. I can't wait for the day that Doomy in the Davis-Suit builds up an immunity to her and goes on a rampage.
If they try and make her Watchtower after this arc it will be completely unbelievable. Then again, since the showrunners have made her the new Lana and nothing she does is wrong, they may just gloss over it. She let the JL's secret identities fall into criminal hands, betrayed her boss, and kept the Ultimate Destroyer in her basement because she has feelings for him; there is no way she can continue as Watchtower after this episode.
5Mins
05-04-2009, 05:21 PM
I think Ollie was shown as the bad guy here. You could tell that Clark didn't like the sound of his whole 'heroes make the tough choices (ie, kill people)' speech. I thought what Chloe said to Clark in the fortress was almost correct but not quite; Davis/Doomsday is still at least partially human, and condemning him to eternity in jail (surrounded by, possibly, potential victims as well) is inhumane and irresponsible. I do think the decision to have done that would have haunted Clark, at least I hope that it would.
It's easier to disagree with Ollie nowadays, because his comments can often be taken as his attempt to excuse himself for his own 'tough choices', such as his murder of Lex/Clone. While Chloe is acting dangerously, she is honestly trying to protect Clark: the episode made that extremely clear, and her earnesty reflects poorly upon the characters who have criticised her, such as Oliver.
As for Chloe being Watchtower after this: I don't think it would be believable until Ollie has gone through some sort of redemption arc himself.
Good episode though :)
dianechicken
05-04-2009, 07:08 PM
One thing that I see several people did not like is the portrayal of Chloe in this episode. I want to say that her being hypocritical, is not necessarily bad writing or a poor portrayal of her character. If people were never hypocritical we wouldn't have words like "hypocrisy" or "hypocrite". We have those words because people really do act like that at times. Portraying a person behaving in such a manner is not bad writing in my opinion, it is showing a complex character with conflicting thoughts and emotions. I think the show has made a strong case for how her head (what she says to Clark/Ollie at times) conflicts with her heart (what she says/does/dreams in regards to Davis), leading to her hypocritical behavior. Being hypocritical is not bad writing, people are hypocrites all the time in real life, and I think it's easy to see where Chloe's hypocrisy is coming from.
Also, just because Chloe makes bad decisions, does not make it a bad episode. Lex made bad decisions all the time, but I still found it was entertaining.
I did not feel that Clark's hesitancy at the fortress when Chloe rescued Davis was unwarranted either. Who (that is regularly on the show) knows Clark better than Chloe right now? I would answer "no one". Thus, I think she was uniquely equipped to say the exact things that she knew would make Clark hesitate. It has been said on the show that Clark's humanity is his greatest strength AND his greatest weakness. In this case Chloe knew that, and used it as the latter.
There is a gray area with a lot of things that happened in this episode. I think to ignore the context and all that is going on is to not give the episode a fair shake. To take the bottomline approach of "Chloe was a hypocrite" or "Clark was weak and didn't put Davis in the PZ" ignores a lot of the context and subtext of the episode in my opinion.
I agree 100%- life isn't black and white- sometimes, even we, as human beings think with our hearts- not our minds- thus making mistakes- this is human nature. To be flawed- to make mistakes- it makes the characters far more interesting-and relatable.
How boring would this series be, if everyone always did the right thing- stayed in character- and acted as they should. That wouldn't even be real life-
I'm sure most of you who watched the first "Matrix film" noted that when Lawrence fishburne was caught by the "virus", it told him that human beings self destructed when presented with a perfect "matrix" where everyone got what they wanted, and life was a cherry blossom. It's not realistic or even dramatic- remember we're watching a TV show.
Our heated discussions on these topics is exactly what the writers want from the fans of this show- controversy-drama-interest- it will keep the show going.
I don't always agree with her actions, though on a personal level- I might act as she did- to be perfectly honest- if not out of love but out of sympathy for a lonely man who didn't ask to be born a monster and whose done everything in his power to prevent it.
I will enjoy watching how it plays out, though I do unfortunately expect Chloe to continue her tragic character arc- it appears to be her destiny to be unhappy...
rosalba
05-04-2009, 07:39 PM
I love cedric's review, I think he really understands what's going on with the character of Chloe. Sorry but she is what she is, manupullative and murdered.
And there is only one hero in the Show : Clark Kent
NoSupeForYou
05-04-2009, 08:13 PM
I don't always agree with her actions, though on a personal level- I might act as she did- to be perfectly honest- if not out of love but out of sympathy for a lonely man who didn't ask to be born a monster and whose done everything in his power to prevent it.
Including kill over 50 people. You deserve no pity when you rack up a body count like that. It would be one thing if she tried to help someone who made a mistake, but Davis consciously killed those people and then burried them in a field. She then guilt-tripped Clark out of doing the right thing and guaranteed that the monster would stay on Earth. She's being used to further the plot and being destroyed in the process in the eyes of many viewers. She's being reduced from character to plot device. Not only that, but the dream was a window into her subconscious and it showed us that a part of her is doing this not for Clark, but because she has feelings for Davis.
ginnyfan
05-04-2009, 09:59 PM
Fantastic review Annie.
I can't decide whether to hate Chloe, fit Chloe for a straight jacket, mourn the assassination of one of my fave characters or what. *goes numb*
I'm adding "multiple choice plot" to my vocabulary.
The fact this storyline is inevitably going to lead to Clark having to face the consequences of other peoples' actions while shouldering the guilt is a Smallville writing disease.
Unfortunately so true.
Next week is Injustice, directed by Tom Welling. Please let it be a script that doesn't sacrifice Clark on the altar of stalling or while attempting to make someone else look more heroic than him.
Please... :\
Fallen One
05-05-2009, 12:36 AM
Thank you Ella!
Oh FallenOne, your reviews make SV funny...and episodes without Lois really need some humor. Seriously, these reviews have become a staple in my SV diet.
IA with you about Oliver, speaking some sense, and I too am grateful that Jimmy's-a-drug-addict arc is over. I also agree about the basis of Chloe's actions to a certain extent - though I do think that she thinks she's doing it for Clark but is, in actuality, playing the fool (which is also playing the martyr, as you pointed out in different words). My dislike regarding Chloe is focused on her actions while you seem to intently dislike her as a character. Have you always?
As always, great review. Love your humor and your introspection.
I gave the episode a seven because I love Jimmy and Oliver's pretty...how sad am I? But ZERO for the Chlavis storyline.
Thanks Julie. :D
Chloe's martyr complex is clouding her judgement at the worst possible time in the worst possible way. This threat of Doomsday is the biggest most dangerous threat ever and she acts like only she can solve it all. Like she's the savior Clark could never be. Like she's doing what needs to be done while Clark is looking for an easy way out. Oh the arrogance, the arrogance.
I didn't go into specific character summeries at the end of the episodes like I usually but Oliver and Jimmy were great in this episode and so was Clark up until the PZ scene where I feel he reverted back to season 7 Clark. For those three people the episode got a 5 for me. I'm with you and gave Chlavis no points.
Oh and have I always disliked Chloe? Nope, liked her in season 1 and pitied her at times for the writing that was on the wall for her (such as her dream of being a star reporter for the DP, working with Clark, and having Clark love her - I always knew those wouldn't happen for her). So I felt she was a tragic character, destined not to have any of her dreams come true. And while she annoyed me many times I was OK with her. Then she learned Clark's secret and became his parent. And for that, I want her pushing daisies.
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Melissa thank you, thank you. Glad I didn't disapoint. This one was hard to write, the episodes I love are so so much easier to write.
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Thank you Bri!
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Thanks SGuthrie, the Solitude part of the fortress is becoming a bit of a punchline these days. Oh and eyes are fine now. After Beast I went over to Doctor Hamilton and threatened him. Its all good now.:lol:
Cedric loved your review since I skipped the episode....but, I might watch Injustice for TW who directed**smile**I am happy that Skittles was back...lol...and I do Love Oliver....No wonder Lois was in love with him.
Thanks Lovehurts38! I'm glad you mentioned Skittles because a day after I posted my Stiletto review, I read it again and noticed I hadn't wrote anything about Skittles in it. That was a first for me! I must include those evil buggers in every review. No review is complete without a mention of 'em.
Wow Cedric. Your review has shown me that it's possible to laugh really hard while your heart is breaking.
I admit that I was confused, very confused by Chloe's behavior in "Beast." But your review really... wow. It was like watching Chloe Sullivan die. It really was. I cried. Seriously. I laughed a lot too 'cause you're really funny.
You know what got me? The lists. The lists of the ways Chloe has been protecting Clark all season. :mad: I've always... given Chloe the benefit of the doubt. I could see the parallels to the whole Zod/Lex/Clark/Lana stuff.... and even Lana/Bizarro... but... I still gave Chloe the benefit of the doubt. But this review... it hurts.
It hurts because this stuff is rooted in Chloe's faults for the entire run of the show. Her desire to be important to Clark... among other things. Just as when Lana did a lot of the crazy stuff she's done in the past it was rooted in her VICTIM issues. It's like... instead of letting a character grow and mature... Smallville lets the characters... fester!
I just... I'm really sad.
*goes to read Starry Dawn's review on LJ again*
:(
Britt, there's a list of really cool posters here that I don't ever want to hurt and you are at the top. My enthusiasm gets the best of me sometimes, but for posters like you I find no pleasure in pointing out things about Chloe. For an important episode like this one for Chloe, I think there should have been a good writer that could made sense of things more and wrote the story more convincingly. PS dropped the ball by bringing in a writer who only wrote once on the show. Whats done is done with her character but I do hope the writers give her a fitting wrap up to her story. I'm almost sure of it actually - if Chloe goes out it'll be in a heroic note.
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Judy, thank you. That FOS scene was .. oh man. I felt sickened. I think without that scene I would have given it a 6 or a 7. But I was just so unhappy with how indecisive they made Clark, and how they tried to shove Chloe's b.s. excuse down his throat our throats (TWICE!!!).
Great review yet again Cedric. I've been waiting for your view on this one. Althogh it took me so long to read the site logged me out :lol:
Did it? :lol: I'm sorry Amalie!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!
Cedric, man, I gotta admit, your reviews are one of the MAIN reasons I even visit K-site.
Spot on, brother.
Thats about the greatest compliment ever! Thanks Joemamma! Can't wait to write my next one.
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Thanks Mai! And nice avi.
THANK YOU cedric!! Thank you from my heart. You expressed excactly what I felt about this scene and particularly this line.
That was one of the worst lines of season 8. Chloe had no right to accuse Clark for feelings he would't even have, for actions that weren't even wrong.
I felt that everytime she tried to convince everybody that she was protecting Clark, she was saying it just to convince herself.
And what made me more angry was the fact that I knew Clark was right, Clark knew he was right about the PZ but yet SHE made him question his own intentions, creating an artificial guilt as an excuse for her actions.
Although I liked Beast in general, that scene infuriated me.
This writer shouldn't write another episode.
WORD Elena! Genevieve Sparling must never, ever, ever be allowed to write another episode. Even if she offered to work for free. Hopefully she joines Melrose Place.
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Use your aggressive feelings, cma_454. Let the dislike flow through you!
No really, you made an excellent point about everything especially concerning good intentions. There's a morality line that shouldn't be crossed on the show and Chloe's crossed them many times over. If she was doing all of this without any friend there for her to offer an alternative solution/viewpoint, it would still be terrible.. but it wouldn't make me so fustrated as I am. The fact that people are there in her face saying "No, NO! Don't do this to yourself, think about your future, think about the consequences, you're smarter than this Chloe!" And that she still went ahead with her plan is just disgusting.
Ollie chewed her out at the Talon and I watched her stare off into space as if she wasn't paying him no mind. And as soon as she heard about Clark taking Davis she rushed out of the Talon, totally ignoring everything that had just happened. I mean for goodness sake, her close friend and her ex husband was almost murdered and its like at that moment.. none of that mattered, all that mattered to her was Davis. Chloe's gone too far.
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Thanks Matt. That rocket idea is so true but I doubt the writers even think like that. They like to act like he could be so easily defeated and need so many people to protect him. Give me a break.
And now they have both Chloe and Oliver in his ear trying to pull him to their side. Oliver wants him to kill Doomsday, and Chloe wants him to.. do nothing and just let her play house with this lunatic. Oliver's solution is pointless, and Chloe's solution is pure INSANITY. I want Clark to look inside himself and make the decision he knows is best and to tune both of them out. Clark knows whats best to do, and he had the right idea with the PZ. If not the PZ in the finale, then I'm sure he'll find a good way to stop this. I just don't want him giving into Oliver, and I damn sure don't want him giving one nano-second of consideration to Chloe's idea.
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Thanks Nicole!
Aw wow Cedric, you said everything that I wanted to, only so much better. I see what you mean by being vindicated. Damn but Chloe annoys me so much. Personally, I liked the episode, but that was because of Clark (as always) and a cool little look at Emil Hamilton. I've saved your review to read over and over again :lol:
Ha! Thanks Sarah, I take it it fustrated you too! Well, the good thing is that we can put this behind us and look forward to a hopefully good episode on Thursday. Judging by the writers for that episode, its gonna rock.
Cedric, I had been waiting with bated breath to read your recap, you did not disappoint. You articulated everything I felt about this episode. Great job!
Well we both can breathe easilier now Charlotte. Thanks a lot!
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Thanks Rachel and Costas.
And Cedric, don't change to suit others, keep to your own taste and beliefs. Your reviews are a howl :D
Batfinx, thanks a lot for all you said in your post. I fugure that those who read my reviews know what to expect by now. Its 20 episodes into the season now. Its too late for me to be fake lol. Thanks again, and I will heed that advice.
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Thank you Lea.
I haven't had a chance to comment on this review, Cedric, but it's entertaining as usual. I don't agree with every single thing you have stated but overall I can see where you are coming from and I do agree with your general assessment of the episode. You can do satire and humor like no one else I've seen on this forum and your reviews always make me laugh out loud. Thank you for taking the time to write this review. I'm looking forward to reading your next review for this week's episode. It looks like it's going to be a very intense episode!
Big thanks to you Dresden. Appreciate that very much.:cool:
Thanks NoSupeForYou! I'm so glad that Watchtower stuff is over for her. I want my JL to be left to iconic characters and not be made a plaything for Chloe just because the writers ran out of ideas for her. And after what she did, its hard to imagine Oliver ever trusting her with anything confidential again. Dude was brutal in his talks with her. I wouldn't be surprised if he draws his bow at her in the finale if she gets out of hand.
I love cedric's review, I think he really understands what's going on with the character of Chloe. Sorry but she is what she is, manupullative and murdered.
And there is only one hero in the Show : Clark Kent
Thanks Rosalba, and you bet your tush there's only one Clark Kent on this show.
Thanks everybody!
FlashInSV
05-05-2009, 01:54 AM
The music of angst starts us off and who else but Chloe is on screen. She attempts to get some sleep but a phone call interupts her. Its Davis who is scared because he had another nightmare. Doomsday had a nightmare.
Gotta get some beers. Be right back {1 minute later} Let us proceed.
:lol:
When she pulls it back she screams and sees the bloodied corpse of Clark, half his body ripped off, and hanging from a pipe. Thats the sickest visual this show has done, well.. besides Lana in a powersuit.
ITA. :D
Commercial Break. "Hi." Hi. "Is Chloe there?" No. "Sorry. I must have the wrong number" - When Doomsday Calls - Rated PG-13. Opens everywhere on May 14th.
Hello? 911? Please send help! My son's having a seizure. He swallowed some five year old Advil and washed it down with tainted Robitussin DM!
Why would he do that?
He left a note. Something about protecting Clark. I don't know. It says he got it from a show.
:rotfl::rotfl: OMFG, you are HILARIOUS!
Commercial Break. Hi, uh, is this 1-800-Pet-Meds? Yeah, man. Listen, I got a horse and he REALLY needs tranquilizers. Lots of 'em! Please! Come on! Look, look. Don't hang up. Fine. I don't have a horse, but I REALLY NEED HORSE TRANQUILIZERS! PLEASE! Hello? Hello?! HELLO?!??!?
I am having trouble staying in my seat, I can't help it, I'm laughing so hard.
"You know Chloe, I thought about calling the police. Instead I thought I'd give you a chance to explain yourself before I let them haul you off to prison for harboring a serial killer." - Oliver Queen, the way to say hello, 7:42 PM.
Hell yes Oliver! Chloe, your response?
"I shouldn't have left Davis here alone, this never would have happened if I were here. Its all my fault."
Boy if her head got any bigger she'd be float in the Thanksgiving Day parade. You're not getting it Chloe, thats not the point. The point is that you shouldn't have had the guy there in the FIRST place. When she turns to face Oliver he has a unforgiving stare on his face.
SO TRUE. My favourite scene in the episode.
"A world without Chloe.." - Davis, spoiling my Zatanna wish, 7:46 PM. In time my precious, in time.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
8. Prevents Doomsday from being sent to a prison where he could never hurt any human again.
I.. I'm just going to count backwards from ten now. And then I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Clark tells her its the right then to do and to trust him.
"Trust you? Clark, the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe you would force him into a life of hell for all eternity." - where is a eighteen wheeler running over her, backing up, and running over her again when you need one, 7:49PM
I'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. Its not working. I'm losing it.
Cedric, are you some sort of standup comedian? Are you a writer or anything? If not, you should honestly consider it. You are absolutely out of this world with your awesome reviews. I wish a 1000 more episodes of SV are produced, just so we can have your reviews.
Fallen One
05-05-2009, 04:11 AM
:lol:
ITA. :D
:rotfl::rotfl: OMFG, you are HILARIOUS!
I am having trouble staying in my seat, I can't help it, I'm laughing so hard.
SO TRUE. My favourite scene in the episode.
Cedric, are you some sort of standup comedian? Are you a writer or anything? If not, you should honestly consider it. You are absolutely out of this world with your awesome reviews. I wish a 1000 more episodes of SV are produced, just so we can have your reviews.
Helen, your reactions have me cracking up. :lol:
Usually when a woman asks me if I'm some sort of standup comedian a shoe is about to fly at my head (or the palm of her hand). Thank you so much. We won't get 1000 more episodes, but you got me for at least 24 more episodes of Smallville. ;):D
cloisthelegendbegins
05-05-2009, 05:08 AM
^^Annie, I was looking forward to your review so I was happy to see it this evening.
Thanks for taking the time to write it. You echoed my thoughts and feelings regarding this episode in a spectacular fashion. I am so disappointed in the execution of this storyline. It has done serious damage to characters and eroded my faith in TPTB. It's nice to see I'm not alone in my frustration.
You're welcome Libby and thanks for reading it! :) I have to say I agree with the Superman Homepage reviews again this week, it was an episode very much about moving the pieces into place for the finale. I just wish there had been more thought put into having the characters motivations make sense. It had the potential to be one of the best storylines they've ever done, but since Eternal it's been a let down for me. I'm really disappointed. I always hope for the best from our little show. :(
Wonderful job Annie. I couldn't disagree with a single point you made.
Thanks amalie! I'm glad I did it now. Very nearly didn't bother. :o
Annie great review since skipped it only watched the ending in Youtube...very detailed and compared with other episodes....Thanks.
Thanks LoveHurts! :)
Thanks, Kryptochloe! And Annie, that really was an amazingly well-thought-out review. While I may not completely agree with every piece of what you said, you dissected the components of the episode's and season's plot and characterization in such a way that made it a fascinating read, and you brought up plenty of very valid points. Well done!
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
Thanks SGuthrie! That's one of the things I love about the reviews in the Loved It/Hated It thread. I might not always agree with what everyone says, but sometimes I'll get a different perspective on things and I love that about K-Site :) I'm about to sit down with a coffee and read back through the reviews now ;)
Great Job Annie!...I enjoyed reading your review :)
Thanks nic!
Joanna
05-05-2009, 06:18 AM
Hi, I'm new here.
I rated this episode 9. I was surprised I enjoyed it so much with so little Clark screentime and such dark overall tone. The only thing I had a problem with was Clarks phone conversation with Chloe and her "I'm doing this for you" which, as many fans fear, may lead clark the well-known guilty path. Yet, I still somehow hope that the writers will solve it painlessly.
Besides, though many will disagree with me, I would be much happier if Chloe actually was doing it for Davis, I would find it more plausible (in the context of this particular episode). Because that is what her actions said, in my opinion. Now I'm confused as to her true motivation.
Overall, I thought this episode was well executed and acting was excellent. I only missed some lighter "smiling" moments, I belive it's the second episode this season (the first one was "Eternal") when we had none. But well, it was Doomy-centred so what ca we expect.
amalie
05-05-2009, 06:32 AM
Hi, I'm new here.
I rated this episode 9. I was surprised I enjoyed it so much with so little Clark screentime and such dark overall tone. The only thing I had a problem with was Clarks phone conversation with Chloe and her "I'm doing this for you" which, as many fans fear, may lead clark the well-known guilty path. Yet, I still somehow hope that the writers will solve it painlessly.
Besides, though many will disagree with me, I would be much happier if Chloe actually was doing it for Davis, I would find it more plausible (in the context of this particular episode). Because that is what her actions said, in my opinion. Now I'm confused as to her true motivation.
Overall, I thought this episode was well executed and acting was excellent. I only missed some lighter "smiling" moments, I belive it's the second episode this season (the first one was "Eternal") when we had none. But well, it was Doomy-centred so what ca we expect.
Hi Joanna, welcome to K-Site :D
I'm having the same problem understanding Chloe's motivations. She's saying one thing and showing us something completely different with her actions. Hopefully we'll have a better idea of what's going on by Thursday.
saltyweeks
05-05-2009, 07:33 AM
I agree 100%- life isn't black and white- sometimes, even we, as human beings think with our hearts- not our minds- thus making mistakes- this is human nature. To be flawed- to make mistakes- it makes the characters far more interesting-and relatable.
How boring would this series be, if everyone always did the right thing- stayed in character- and acted as they should. That wouldn't even be real life-
Our heated discussions on these topics is exactly what the writers want from the fans of this show- controversy-drama-interest- it will keep the show going.
I don't always agree with her actions, though on a personal level- I might act as she did- to be perfectly honest- if not out of love but out of sympathy for a lonely man who didn't ask to be born a monster and whose done everything in his power to prevent it.
I will enjoy watching how it plays out, though I do unfortunately expect Chloe to continue her tragic character arc- it appears to be her destiny to be unhappy...
absolutely. great post :)
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----
And there is only one hero in the Show : Clark Kent
that would be a far less interesting show.
batfinx
05-05-2009, 09:24 AM
Also, just because Chloe makes bad decisions, does not make it a bad episode. Lex made bad decisions all the time, but I still found it was entertaining.
Yeah, but Lex is a villain. It seems an odd analogy.
I can't decide whether to hate Chloe, fit Chloe for a straight jacket, mourn the assassination of one of my fave characters or what. *goes numb*
I have a feeling Chloe will be exonerated. She'll either have a grand scheme, or turn out to be mind whammied, or possessed, or any number of things that will clear her reputation and make it totally not her fault. I know that sounds kind of like a cheat, but it's like Lana leaving Clark a 'dear john' DVD and then they had to drag her back and clear her name of that and have her vanish in a saintly green glow. I'm sure things will turn around and restore Chloe's reputation.
Batfinx, thanks a lot for all you said in your post. I fugure that those who read my reviews know what to expect by now. Its 20 episodes into the season now. Its too late for me to be fake lol. Thanks again, and I will heed that advice
You're welcome and you're right, your reviews have been around long enough that most people are familiar with your point of view. That's why I anticipate them each week :lol:
Marissa
05-05-2009, 09:34 AM
I give it a 7. Good episode, but I don't understand Chloe's actions. I'm afraid of what will come.
xrayvision
05-05-2009, 09:46 AM
Reveal Chloe, standing by the console, holding the octagon key.
She tells Clark she can't let him do this, then takes out the crystal and closes the portal.
How Chloe protects Clark and the World
1. Allows herself to be taken over by Brainiac and refuses to be cured.
2. Murdered Sebastian who discovered Clark's secret.
3. Kills Davis against Clark's wishes, making him invincible.
4. Harbors a now stronger Davis in her basement.
5. Tossed bags of human body parts into a dumpster.
6. Lies about Davis' survival.
7. Threatens to kill a member of the JL if they tell anyone about Davis.
8. Prevents Doomsday from being sent to a prison where he could never hurt any human again.
I.. I'm just going to count backwards from ten now. And then I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Clark tells her its the right then to do and to trust him.
"Trust you? Clark, the only reason why you won't kill him is because you don't want blood on your hands. I can't believe you would force him into a life of hell for all eternity." - where is a eighteen wheeler running over her, backing up, and running over her again when you need one, 7:49PM
I'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. Its not working. I'm losing it.
She tells him that she knows him better than anyone and that she can't let him do this. That he would never forgive himself for giving up on Davis. And with the emasculation of Clark Kent complete, she gives him a scolding look and leaves with Davis, and Clark just stood there and watched, and did nothing. Nothing.
::::Rant Alert::::
You know whats unforgiving Chloe!? Your BREATH is unforgiving!! Who the hell are you to come to the FOS and tell Clark what he should feel and how he should feel it when you're the cause for ALL of this! Those are YOUR feelings that you are trying to project on Clark. Its you and ONLY you who don't want Doomsday in the phantom zone, you twit! Why didn't Clark punt her to a small moon!? She's practically begged for it! Disgusting. This scene sucked.
Oh the beer is all gone people, GONE! And the fork to the eye count has passed 100.
Man, I don't know about you, but I was close to being classified as "fit to be tied" after seeing this. I couldn't believe how Clark again was turned into the plot device. I was hoping that all ended after Requiem. But they did it again. Clark was clearly past his believing everything without having doubts phase that he was in while with Lana. But they once again turned him into an idiot just to make the plot of this episode fly. Utterly disgusting. This is the exact same bovine fecies that was taking place back in season 5 when Clark knew Lana was going behind his back with his then recent enemy Lex investigating the ship and still trusted her.
That Fortress scene with Chloe's guilt tripping and projection of Chloe's own messed up views on Clark (that sending Davis to the Phantom Zone was wrong) convinced me that Chloe is the new Lana and that she must go one way or the other. If she remains next season, it will ruin the show. They will anchor the show with a character who just doesn't belong anymore. They will also turn it into a Justice League show just to keep her in it, and that's something I never want to see. I can't even believe Oliver would be dumb enough to let her keep her job after this.
I'm waiting to see the core Superman characters---Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Perry, and hopefully Pete Ross back as CK's friend and Intergang as the villians. These core characters have never made Clark look like a moron. They always allowed him to be who he really is without poison like Lana and "season 5-8 Chloe" around, who made/make him a BDA. We got rid of one poison after heavy collateral damage, and now the other must go. Otherwise this Clark Kent will remain as the most pathetic depiction of the character in the history. Notice I said remain, because currently he is the most pathetic depiction. The real Clark/Superman would never have stayed with Lana after the crap she pulled off and would never have bought the garbage Chloe unloaded on Smallville's Clark this episode. And as I always say, the Clark of Season 3 would have never have bought this raw sewage.
I don't have the time or the patience for the crap I saw in this episode.
The bottom line to TPTB: Get rid of the rotten apple before she spoils the entire barrel next season
bmwhype
05-05-2009, 06:46 PM
amazingly boring episode. worse than season 1's freak of the week storylines
xrayvision
05-05-2009, 07:10 PM
amazingly boring episode. worse than season 1's freak of the week storylines
I liked most of the FOTW storylines & they were necessary to set up the obsession of kryptonite and all things alien. Mainly because Clark wasn't an indecisive moron back then. He was his own man, he was headstrong, he was independent, and he called anyone on things he didn't agree with them about. He didn't take crap from Lana (as seen in Hug), from Chloe (as seen in Zero), or others. He also was cautious with Lex. He was basically an inexperienced Superman. The same thing with the 2nd & 3rd seasons. After those seasons, especially starting in season 5, he just became damaged goods.
lana 9
05-05-2009, 11:58 PM
i give it a 7 i love clark idea to sent davis to the phantom zone
La Donna
05-06-2009, 12:03 AM
On the contrary. I understand perfectly. I do find it curious, however, that if you don't think there's anything wrong with your "methods" why you felt the need to write such a long post defending yourself. I get it. In fact, I got it before. If you believe that a character (who has come under some kind of attack) is being "defended" well by others, you won't bother doing the same. That's where you and I disagree. If I believed a character was unfairly under attack, I would still put my two cents in, even if everyone else did too. That doesn't mean I'd have to write a book. It could just be a sentence or two. In fact, I wish MORE people on K-Site would be more succinct. Some people write a lot, but actually "say" very little. Long story short, I don't let what others post dictate what I'm going to post. If something bothers me, I'll speak up about it no matter if 1 person already has or 1,000. You obviously don't agree and that's fine. If everyone agreed on everything, the world would be a pretty boring place.
First, I find what you wrote to be insulting, even if you didn't specify that it was my long posts that you find "writes a lot, and says a little". If that's the case, don't read them. Easy Peazy.
Second, I still don't think there is anything wrong with my methods. I'm defending my post since you took it out of context. That's me, arguing against your use of my words and your insinuations. I think you are assuming that if someone argues or defends themselves, that it's because what they did originally is worthy of being doubted or questioned. That's just not the case. You disagree. Although, if you're curious about why I write long posts, especially as a response to you, then perhaps you've missed what I actually wrote anyways. It's the only explanation I have for you. Again, if you don't wish to read long posts, especially by specific posters who you feel write too much and say too little, then maybe you should just block their posts from being seen by you. Then you wouldn't have to spend your time reading something that is wasting your time with little substance.
Third, you may post every single time that someone is being unfairly attacked. But that just means that you either don't find very many posts unfairly attacking characters, or you have MUCH MORE TIME than I do. I have limited time to spend online here, and it's been fewer and fewer as of late. I choose to respond to some posts, and not respond to others so that I can spend my time here reading threads I want to, responding to the posts I want to, and adding my own ideas to the forum. I wish I had your free time so I could respond to every single post that I disagree or agree with. I just don't.
I do agree with you that if everyone had the same thoughts it would be a very boring place.;)
HeroesUnlimited
05-06-2009, 05:56 PM
First, I find what you wrote to be insulting, even if you didn't specify that it was my long posts that you find "writes a lot, and says a little". If that's the case, don't read them. Easy Peazy.
Second, I still don't think there is anything wrong with my methods. I'm defending my post since you took it out of context. That's me, arguing against your use of my words and your insinuations. I think you are assuming that if someone argues or defends themselves, that it's because what they did originally is worthy of being doubted or questioned. That's just not the case. You disagree. Although, if you're curious about why I write long posts, especially as a response to you, then perhaps you've missed what I actually wrote anyways. It's the only explanation I have for you. Again, if you don't wish to read long posts, especially by specific posters who you feel write too much and say too little, then maybe you should just block their posts from being seen by you. Then you wouldn't have to spend your time reading something that is wasting your time with little substance.
Third, you may post every single time that someone is being unfairly attacked. But that just means that you either don't find very many posts unfairly attacking characters, or you have MUCH MORE TIME than I do. I have limited time to spend online here, and it's been fewer and fewer as of late. I choose to respond to some posts, and not respond to others so that I can spend my time here reading threads I want to, responding to the posts I want to, and adding my own ideas to the forum. I wish I had your free time so I could respond to every single post that I disagree or agree with. I just don't.
I do agree with you that if everyone had the same thoughts it would be a very boring place.;)
I think you assume far too much and we'll just leave it at that.
KneelBeforeZod!
05-06-2009, 06:08 PM
Man, I don't know about you, but I was close to being classified as "fit to be tied" after seeing this. I couldn't believe how Clark again was turned into the plot device. I was hoping that all ended after Requiem. But they did it again. Clark was clearly past his believing everything without having doubts phase that he was in while with Lana. But they once again turned him into an idiot just to make the plot of this episode fly. Utterly disgusting. This is the exact same bovine fecies that was taking place back in season 5 when Clark knew Lana was going behind his back with his then recent enemy Lex investigating the ship and still trusted her.
That Fortress scene with Chloe's guilt tripping and projection of Chloe's own messed up views on Clark (that sending Davis to the Phantom Zone was wrong) convinced me that Chloe is the new Lana and that she must go one way or the other. If she remains next season, it will ruin the show. They will anchor the show with a character who just doesn't belong anymore. They will also turn it into a Justice League show just to keep her in it, and that's something I never want to see. I can't even believe Oliver would be dumb enough to let her keep her job after this.
I'm waiting to see the core Superman characters---Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Perry, and hopefully Pete Ross back as CK's friend and Intergang as the villians. These core characters have never made Clark look like a moron. They always allowed him to be who he really is without poison like Lana and "season 5-8 Chloe" around, who made/make him a BDA. We got rid of one poison after heavy collateral damage, and now the other must go. Otherwise this Clark Kent will remain as the most pathetic depiction of the character in the history. Notice I said remain, because currently he is the most pathetic depiction. The real Clark/Superman would never have stayed with Lana after the crap she pulled off and would never have bought the garbage Chloe unloaded on Smallville's Clark this episode. And as I always say, the Clark of Season 3 would have never have bought this raw sewage.
I don't have the time or the patience for the crap I saw in this episode.
The bottom line to TPTB: Get rid of the rotten apple before she spoils the entire barrel next season
Couldn't have said it better myself. I soooooooo want Chloe gone! gone! gone! gone!
tibbit78
05-20-2009, 02:53 PM
I was just watching Beast and Aaron Ashmore as Jimmy Olsen says to Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen (when Jimmy was working at the bar):
Oliver Queen: You work here, don't you? What are they paying you, Shirley Temples?
Jimmy Olsen: "They, uh, let me go (he was laid off). Cutbacks. I mean, You know how that is."
Oliver Queen: I do.
Then TPTB let Aaron Ashmore go (no longer playing Jimmy Olsen). What a strange coincidence to have a line like that, then 2 episodes later on Doomsday, they actually let Aaron Ashmore go. Cutbacks on Smallville. You know how that is. I never even thought about those lines at all on Beast, until after they let Aaron Ashmore go (no longer playing Jimmy Olsen). I don't want to be rude and say ironic, because I'm just too depressed to say that about Jimmy Olsen/Aaron Ashmore. I love and miss Jimmy Olsen/Aaron Ashmore. Has anyone else ever noticed that at all?
Autumn
08-31-2009, 03:17 PM
I still really love this episode. Chlavis is the best. :)
Nimkong
03-06-2010, 10:02 AM
This episode was great!Liked the plot,davis was tight and the ending was kool
Kall-Ell
08-17-2010, 05:36 AM
I give it a 6!
Hate how chloe's character is moving but Loved Allison Mack!
Chlavis makes me sick!!!!
KneelBeforeSmallville
08-17-2010, 12:19 PM
I really like BEAST, I remember watching this episode with my friends and my Jaw dropped when you see clark ripped in half in the teaser. I really enjoyed how it was well written and building to the end in the fortress. The End battle was IMO better than the DD fight. I love Fortress frenzy. Everyone really delivered a good performance and this ep covered alot. The end is amazing, very emotional. I respect Chloe cause all she has ever wanted to do is Save Clark, and Clark Crushing the filing cabinet was..EPIC! GREAT EP! 1 of my favs of Season 8! 10/10!!
ck123
01-25-2011, 05:49 AM
Love it^^it was great!
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