View Full Version : Wouldn't it have been easier to just....
RedPhoenix23
04-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Use Claire's blood to heal Nathan? Or at the very very least, use Peter to play Nathan and clean up his mess?
couldent claire use her blood to bring back nat back to life just like that one guy that got shot in the eye
and i know claire does not know but thats just dumb lol
roger767
04-27-2009, 11:43 PM
yeah they really messed it up. Huge! plothole. At least first try to bring back real Nathan with claire's blood before doing something drastic as making sylar believe he is nathan.
Now the new company is based on a lie again, just like the old one.
Lilah
04-27-2009, 11:45 PM
LOL! I vote for Clair're blood healing NAthan..... like I said. HUGE COP OUT mixed with horrific writing and you get "An Invisible Thread".
DavidM2
04-28-2009, 12:46 AM
hmm, I didn't consider the possibility of Peter pretending to be Nathan...I mentioned this is another thread, but they would still have to deal with Sylar if they did it some other way.
Litle bit more bizarre
04-28-2009, 01:38 AM
They could just let Peter clean the mess and than say goodbye to Nathan
targis
04-28-2009, 04:03 AM
It would have been easier but I think they wanted to leave the option open for Quinto to be able to come back.
LOONEY
04-28-2009, 05:27 AM
If he was dead already i don't believe her blood brings back the dead, just heals living tissue. You can't regenerate DEAD tissue.
haydenclaireheroes
04-28-2009, 05:31 AM
she did not know about the death
ChrisB85
04-28-2009, 06:46 AM
I think the posibility of actual reviving Nathan with Claire´s blood was so tiny that they wouldn´d even try it, because to do that they had to tell her that Sylar killed Nathan, what would make it impossible to do the Sylar/Nathan twist because Claire and Peter would never let that happen.
So doing the twist without trying to revive Nathan was the only way to shurely make it happen.
EDIT: Okay, forget it!
Didn´t think of when the company used Claire´s blood to revive Noah after he was shot in the head an was 100% dead.
That leaves me to just one conclusion.. the writers did forget too ;-)
Kick2theface
04-28-2009, 07:42 AM
I think the fact that they never say or show what happens to Nathan's body leaves a chance in the future maybe a couple of seasons if the show stays on for that long. Would be great because no one would think about it. Sylar comes back full time if/when he remember who he is. I think they will get another sample of Claire's blood down the line. The only way to kill a character is to shoot them in the sweet spot or cut out their brain really. Nathan's death may stick but there is always the possiblity of bringing him back.
The only way i can see it happening though is if Peter does it (in case he has the regeneration power) when he finds out that Nathan is dead and that Sylar is still alive or if they bring him back to stop Peter for some reason. Wouldnt be hard to imagine Peter turning his back on the world when he finds out what Matt, Angela, and Noah did. And as proven in season 1 and 2 only one character can really stop Peter and that is Nathan
Red Arrow Kuczynski
04-28-2009, 08:38 AM
I think the fact that they never say or show what happens to Nathan's body leaves a chance in the future maybe a couple of seasons if the show stays on for that long.
They did show what happened to Nathan's body. They burned it! What I don't get is why they didn't just chop Sylar's head off and burn his head. No brain, No regeneration! I understand from the writer's POV that they did what they did so they can bring Sylar back eventually, but from the characters' standpoint, they just want to be rid of him for good.
They did show what happened to Nathan's body. They burned it!
no sorry that wasnt Nathan, that was the dead shapeshifter in deep freeze who looked like Sylar....
shanemak
04-28-2009, 12:16 PM
They did show what happened to Nathan's body. They burned it! What I don't get is why they didn't just chop Sylar's head off and burn his head. No brain, No regeneration! I understand from the writer's POV that they did what they did so they can bring Sylar back eventually, but from the characters' standpoint, they just want to be rid of him for good.
If they just beheaded Sylar, he would just grow a new body. I agree that they burned Nathan's body, cause the President didn't want any mess left, and Parkman worked his magic on everyone at the fire to think it was Sylar.
Yoshua
04-28-2009, 12:22 PM
If he was dead already i don't believe her blood brings back the dead, just heals living tissue. You can't regenerate DEAD tissue.
HRG had a bullet go through his eye and out the back of his head.
Her blood brought him back to life. That is why everyone is claiming plot hole.
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If they just beheaded Sylar, he would just grow a new body. I agree that they burned Nathan's body, cause the President didn't want any mess left, and Parkman worked his magic on everyone at the fire to think it was Sylar.
We don't know that for sure. We dont know how much of him needs to be intact for that to happen.
For example, if there is no heart pumping the blood then can a FULL body be regenerated? You can cut a limb off of a lizard but if you behead it then it dies.
That wasn't Nathan's body they burned. It was the body from Building 26, the original shape shifter. HRG says he has a body that would work for a double and then they cut to the pyro of Sylar getting burned.
shanemak
04-28-2009, 01:53 PM
That wasn't Nathan's body they burned. It was the body from Building 26, the original shape shifter. HRG says he has a body that would work for a double and then they cut to the pyro of Sylar getting burned.
But if that's the case, how would they dispose of Nathan's body in a way that niether Claire, nor Peter would know about? Add to that the President ordered that no mess is to be left behind. It makes perfect sense that the body that was burned was really Nathan's. But it does give the writer's an escape hatch if they get desperate, and wish to re-introduce his character.
RedPhoenix23
04-28-2009, 02:11 PM
But if that's the case, how would they dispose of Nathan's body in a way that niether Claire, nor Peter would know about? Add to that the President ordered that no mess is to be left behind. It makes perfect sense that the body that was burned was really Nathan's. But it does give the writer's an escape hatch if they get desperate, and wish to re-introduce his character.
Dude, HRG practically out said that the body was the shapeshifters (he stayed looking like Sylar when he died, remember?). And getting rid of/hiding Nathan's body really wouldn't be that hard, especially not with peeps so experianced at that of thing like Noah and Angela, then not to mention the fact that they had Parkman to help with that task if needed.
thejazonshow
04-28-2009, 04:16 PM
Bottom line is that it is a huge plot hole that the writers threw in to screw up the end of a better season. Why couldn't they have given peter his ability back and have a real slugfest with sylar, not some 10 second whimper like at the end of season 1. and since quinto might not come back, they coulda had sylar defeated, but disappear or some crap. so that they could bring him back if they wanted to. with this ending, its only a matter of time that he figures out that he is not really nathan, when his nathan memories start conflicting with the extra powers that are bound to pop up. he'll either heal to get old his memory back, or they might try to do a good sylar deal since he will have no back story (to his knowledge) and try to do good, cuz of everyone around him. but in the end, he will become evil again, and kill another couple of main characters for the next season finale
If he was dead already i don't believe her blood brings back the dead, just heals living tissue. You can't regenerate DEAD tissue.
Yeah I agree. Nathan was dead before Angela and Parkman got there, even if they called for Claire it would have been too late. Plus, he bled to death, so it would take a lot of blood to bring him back if he was still semi-alive.
Exedore
04-28-2009, 04:27 PM
I think they just prefer to ignore V2 :/
Could they have used Sylar's blood considering that he has Claire's power?
I have a sneaky feeling that they didn't show what happened to Nathan's body in order to keep an option to bring him back whenever they feel like with whatever reason they come up with. :lol:
thejazonshow
04-28-2009, 04:32 PM
Yeah I agree. Nathan was dead before Angela and Parkman got there, even if they called for Claire it would have been too late. Plus, he bled to death, so it would take a lot of blood to bring him back if he was still semi-alive.
Not tru.. considering HRG was shot through the head in season 2, which is a more fatal stroke than a sliced neck, and mohinder gave HRG claire's blood wayyy after he died. I mean, they brought hiim back to the company, strapped him up..and then FINALLY put the IV in him and gave him the blood. it regrew and he was bak in a matter of seconds. and the bleeding doesn't matter, i figure. i mean, if claire can regrow limbs, i'm sure her blood can regenerate extra blood cells.
superman07
04-28-2009, 06:35 PM
yeah this was the first thought i had when Nathan died, 'well they're going to use claire's blood to revive him' and i think i might have actually liked that better than the whole forcing sylar to believe he's nathan. it's just too predictable because we all know that Sylar will eventually re-emerge, tell everyone what Angela did blah blah blah
thejazonshow
04-28-2009, 06:39 PM
yeah this was the first thought i had when Nathan died, 'well they're going to use claire's blood to revive him' and i think i might have actually liked that better than the whole forcing sylar to believe he's nathan. it's just too predictable because we all know that Sylar will eventually re-emerge, tell everyone what Angela did blah blah blah
yea, i woulda much rather had peter get his powers back and actually challenge sylar. and SHOW the fight. the whole show teased about peter being the one to stop him and get his powers back, with nathan saying all that stuff to the secret service. i know its prolly easier to write stories with peter when he isn't omnipotent, but i mean, they get paid to make the show happen. they can do it. they need to bring back the old pete.
Superboy2
04-28-2009, 06:47 PM
HRG was dead and Claire's blood brought him back. They could've done that.
thejazonshow
04-28-2009, 06:53 PM
HRG was dead and Claire's blood brought him back. They could've done that.
thats whaT they shoulda done. the whole sylar being nathan is pretty different, i admit. i definitely didn't see it coming with matt wiping hallowing him out, but i don't see how they can really expect sylar, a character they built up so much over the last three season, to be beaten by a mind wipe. peter came back from it, so will sylar. it was just a way to keep sylar out of commision for a while, until he wakes up and goes crazy. shoulda just done the obvious thing and used claires blood, cuz it looks stupid on the writers part to think that any of us would overlook that.
Superboy2
04-28-2009, 06:56 PM
Exactly.
j-kent
04-29-2009, 12:11 AM
Use Claire's blood to heal Nathan? Or at the very very least, use Peter to play Nathan and clean up his mess?
where would be the fun in using Claire's blood all the time? Either way, Angela made a quick and rash decision. I don't agree with the decision, but there could be so many what-ifs and we don't write the show so this is fine. After sometime of death, I'm sure there's a point were Claire's blood is ineffective as well.
targis
04-29-2009, 12:17 AM
If I would have written that scene I would have had Claire heal him.
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