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Bluegemini
04-27-2009, 02:10 PM
Just doing this to see what the numbers look like after a while.

I really hope he get his power back, if not his old one then maybe have multable powers but has to touch to get them.

Lexgirl33
04-27-2009, 02:11 PM
I'll close your other thread.

But Yes I want his power back!!

unsafe
04-27-2009, 06:32 PM
What is the point in the show if he doesn't get his old power back? I mean wasn't that part of what made season 1 so sucessful?

Superboy2
04-27-2009, 06:36 PM
I think his new power or lower version of the power is stupid.

targis
04-27-2009, 06:53 PM
Just let him be able to hold multiple powers again. I don't care if he has og power or not.

RedPhoenix23
04-27-2009, 07:29 PM
I definately want Peter to get his old ability back as well. I still think it would be cool if Peter DID have his original ability but it's just a bit broken at the moment because of his guilt over killing his papa. Yes, Sylar did the deed in the end BUT if Sylar didn't stop Peter's bullet long enough to have a chitchat with Arthur then Peter would have been solely responsible.

haydenclaireheroes
04-27-2009, 08:03 PM
ya but it is still cool

Clois4eva89
04-27-2009, 08:04 PM
Abso-freakin-lutely I want Peter's old power to return the just one power Peter blows chunks!

kp1984
04-27-2009, 08:05 PM
He did touch Sylar so maybe he dose have multi powers again. What I don't get is why did'nt he heal.

LoftofSolitude
04-27-2009, 08:12 PM
I believe he didn't heal because he was only able to take one of sylar's powers from him because when he was in the back of the limo with sylar he said, "didn't think i'd take that one did you?" Not to mention it seemed like when claire asked him if he could stop sylar he avoided the question, and the secret service showed up before she could get her answer. But if my theory is true, that's unfortunate, because peter really needs his original power to return.

super_j_man
04-27-2009, 08:17 PM
So if Peter did take Sylar's power, does Peter have the hunger??

CompanyMan
04-27-2009, 08:26 PM
Don't know if Peter took all of Sylar's powers or just the one. We'll have to wait until next season to find out.

superjjf
04-27-2009, 08:26 PM
Peter only took the Shapeshifting...he would have to take sylar's power and then pick Sylar's brain to get the rest.

targis
04-27-2009, 08:31 PM
I think he has them all. I think if Peter would get any powers from sylar by touching him he would get EM thus he would get all of them.

ChronX4
04-27-2009, 08:33 PM
I believe he didn't heal because he was only able to take one of sylar's powers from him because when he was in the back of the limo with sylar he said, "didn't think i'd take that one did you?" Not to mention it seemed like when claire asked him if he could stop sylar he avoided the question, and the secret service showed up before she could get her answer. But if my theory is true, that's unfortunate, because peter really needs his original power to return.

I think he did, but he didn't have or take the time to clean up the blood where the wounds were.

superjjf
04-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Peter's old power is natural right? And his new one is synthetic. Does this mean that possibly people could have dual powers. One natural and one synthetic?

kp1984
04-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Peter's old power is natural right? And his new one is synthetic. Does this mean that possibly people could have dual powers. One natural and one synthetic?

That's a good point. Wondering if somebody like Elle could get a second power if they took the formula. one natural and the other synthetic like you said.

targis
04-27-2009, 08:59 PM
They left the same question unanswered as they did the end of the Villians.

pycer
04-27-2009, 09:04 PM
He only has the shapeshifting power now, he was able to choose which power of Sylars he took.

And yes, fix Peter. Do it and do it now!

Level5
04-27-2009, 09:13 PM
Does anyone else think the reason the show is failing is because Peter lost his power?

And yes, I'm outraged that Peter still has his lame one-power-at-a-time power, and that we still haven't really seen any development on his character.

super_j_man
04-27-2009, 09:27 PM
I hate too that Peter doesn't have his original power, but I'm starting to accept it more. I, personally, loved Peter's character to begin with not just because of his awesome power (and it was AWESOME) but his character in general. I liked to see his power's return but I like for writers to explore his character more as well. I just seems like the season we haven't that much of Peter.

Level5
04-27-2009, 09:35 PM
I hate too that Peter doesn't have his original power, but I'm starting to accept it more. I, personally, loved Peter's character to begin with not just because of his awesome power (and it was AWESOME) but his character in general. I liked to see his power's return but I like for writers to explore his character more as well. I just seems like the season we haven't that much of Peter.

I'm not getting used to it, I'm actually starting to lose interest in the show. I don't know, but I'm thinking the only reason I liked this show was because of Peter's awesome power and character.

super_j_man
04-27-2009, 09:40 PM
I'm not getting used to it, I'm actually starting to lose interest in the show. I don't know, but I'm thinking the only reason I liked this show was because of Peter's awesome power and character.

I loved that too, but there was also more to love as well in S1 IMO. To me, Nikki/Jessica was one of the best storylines.

targis
04-27-2009, 10:01 PM
Why didn't they just let him touching Sylar fix him? They have to know it is what people want to see.

Level5
04-27-2009, 10:02 PM
I always thought the Nikki/Jessica parts were boring, well not that interesting at least.

RedPhoenix23
04-27-2009, 11:06 PM
I'm not getting used to it, I'm actually starting to lose interest in the show. I don't know, but I'm thinking the only reason I liked this show was because of Peter's awesome power and character.

Me too. :(

EmpathPeter and season's two's Kensei/Adam were the BEST thing about Heroes. The show has gone downhill ever since.

doomvskal86
04-27-2009, 11:25 PM
I think peter got all of his powers back because how did he survive fighting sylar he would've been destroyed

targis
04-28-2009, 12:03 AM
I think peter got all of his powers back because how did he survive fighting sylar he would've been destroyed
I hope your correct and that is the way they go with it but I don't have much confidence in the writers anymore.:mad:

RedPhoenix23
04-28-2009, 12:05 AM
I think peter got all of his powers back because how did he survive fighting sylar he would've been destroyed

If that were true then he would have been able to heal his cuts and fly after Sylar and Nathan.

romfus
04-28-2009, 12:32 AM
If that were true then he would have been able to heal his cuts and fly after Sylar and Nathan.

Look closely. He DID heal his cuts, he just didn't wipe away the blood.
And he didn't fly after them because the whole 'imitating the president' thing was a better idea to lure Sylar.

targis
04-28-2009, 12:34 AM
His Bleeding did seem to stop before it should have

DavidM2
04-28-2009, 12:49 AM
Yeah, I want his old power to come back. Still, the Peter-Sylar scene was awesome!

targis
04-28-2009, 03:41 AM
I hoped they would give a clue about Peter's power in the Graphic Novel but they didn't.

ChrisB85
04-28-2009, 07:08 AM
Well, I realy donīt want Peter to get his old Power back, he was just a sponge and absorbed all the Powers around him.
I think if he getīs it back he will be way to powerfull and theres no way to tell a thrilling story if the conclusion to every problem is just to let him handle the situation with one of his billions of powers.

Cychotec
04-28-2009, 07:29 AM
Yes, I wish he still had his old power. Taking it away was such an unimaginative cop out it unbelievable. I agree with Level 5 that taking Petes power away is a good part of the reason the show is failing.

They missed some big opportunities when they started season 2 because they had thought we still wanted people discovering thier powers. So they first wipe Petes mind so he forgets all that he's learned... which I hated because what I wanted to see was the evolution of these powers, to see them learning how to use them, and what limitations they may have, or what drawbacks there may be from using them.

I also believe that Peter from season 1 was potentially far too powerful. But I think a more interesting way to deal with that issue would have been to have the Kirby Plaza incident be due to Pete overloading because of his inability to cope with absorbing so many powers, Forcing him to learn how to impose his own limit on his powers and only keep a handful at a time to prevent him from losing control.

I just feel that in thier numerous attempts to wipe the slate clean and start over they have only succeeded in digging this shows grave.

Joshy
04-28-2009, 08:09 AM
I want to see Peter get his powers back and grow as a hero, as some others have already said here. But at least so far as seasons 2 and 3 go, I think they've written him a lot better with the one-power-at-a-time ability. He acts more intelligently, selecting among those powers available to him purposefully.

Plus, its nice on forums like this to see a near 100 percent reduction in comments to the effect of, "Couldn't Peter have just used [some acquired ability] to [solve some problem he was faced with]?"

So I'm cheering for Peter to one day get his full power back, but I want them to do it in a grand way - a return of the Superman kind of way. If Peter would have gotten his powers back in the last 10 minutes of this volume, it would have lacked the gravitas such an event deserves.

Joshy

LOONEY
04-28-2009, 09:02 AM
He has his OG power back come on, Sylar had the Empath power at birth like pete, picked up the first ability he came across, Dad, love empath absorbed. Like pete, he took his moms power of dream then dreamt he could fly but both were taken abilites from loved ones.
Now he CAN'T fly. Sylar didn't ahve the flight power or did he? he would have had to empathicly take it if he did and was more than likely before they took out the window.
But he has the empath power back (Sylar has it too) and he has all of what Sylar had at that time. That's why he said "You didn't think i took that one did you ? ! "

HowardFilms
04-28-2009, 09:59 AM
My theory was that Peter will get his ability when he regains empathy for people. He's all pissy because everyone betrays him. Remember hiro's power bin messed up by his own mind block in S1?

Seriously though...the taking away powers was interesting for a bit, but now it's just frustrating. This show was supposed to be about how these people had superpowers.

If you had told me two years ago that Peter and Hiro would be chumps and Mohinder would have powers, I would have quit the show then.

Batman66
04-28-2009, 10:23 AM
I think he has them all. I think if Peter would get any powers from sylar by touching him he would get EM thus he would get all of them.

That would have been the most logical power for him to take, wouldn't it? Unfortunately, that's not what he did.

sleo
04-28-2009, 10:57 AM
So many theories about Peter's powers...I don't think he has all of Sylar's powers because in the final scene he has scars in his face but then I thought about Future-Peter who had the healing ability and the scar in his face. Speaking of F.Peter remember how he died? Shot while Haitian blocked his power. Remember that Sylar died on the Primatech fire? But when the glass melt he came back to life. Since Present Peter knocked the Haitian, or Haitian got away from F.Peter he should have healed. Another plot hole

shanemak
04-28-2009, 11:48 AM
I don't know, I still think the Haitian should have had a MAJOR part in the reason on why Sylar is stopped. What I don't exactly get is why in the limo, when Peter touched Sylar, and took the ability, he lost his shape shifting power. I mean, when Peter took Natan's flying ability, Nathan could still fly, so what gives?

Bluegemini
04-28-2009, 12:52 PM
TBH i think the writers are rubbing it in our faces, as when Peter said i bet you never thought i would take that ONE.

targis
04-28-2009, 03:43 PM
TBH i think the writers are rubbing it in our faces, as when Peter said i bet you never thought i would take that ONE.
It makes me very angry. Don't they know that if they give people what they want more people will watch it. I don't guess they even care.:mad:

targis
04-28-2009, 06:30 PM
While he was shaking Sylar's hand he shifted back into his true form so he could have any of Sylars powers now. Theres no telling what he can do.

Superboy2
04-28-2009, 06:36 PM
I'm guessing he has all of them. I still don't like the way Angela reacted. Its not her true son, and if he could see what they're doing in his name and what not, he would be appalled.

targis
04-28-2009, 06:44 PM
I'm guessing he has all of them. I still don't like the way Angela reacted. Its not her true son, and if he could see what they're doing in his name and what not, he would be appalled.
I hope he has them all.

ChrisB85
04-28-2009, 07:09 PM
I don't know, I still think the Haitian should have had a MAJOR part in the reason on why Sylar is stopped. What I don't exactly get is why in the limo, when Peter touched Sylar, and took the ability, he lost his shape shifting power. I mean, when Peter took Natan's flying ability, Nathan could still fly, so what gives?
My gues is that, when Sylar tried to absorb the Presidents/Peters DNA (as I understand it, thatīs the way the shapeshifting works) his ability to shift went hiwire because of some kind of feedback from Peters own shapeshift, Sylars ability to shapeshift just couldnīt make any sense of the "data" it was receiving. Thats why he confused shifted from one shape into another before finaly switch it off and return to his original state.

targis
04-28-2009, 07:23 PM
I don't know, I still think the Haitian should have had a MAJOR part in the reason on why Sylar is stopped.

Does anyone even know where the Haitian went to? The last time he was seen he was chasing after Sylar.

jazzylg
04-28-2009, 07:31 PM
The writers are just teasing us when it comes to Peter's powers. I think it's cool for him to have absorbed all of sylar's abilities, but with his new abilities aquired, Peter now has the ability to pick and choose, not just absorbing random abilities.This is much better. This way, he can adapt, and master what he has. To be honest though, even with his one power at a time ability, he was still the only one that could truly stop sylar, next to a healthy Hiro, of course. ;)

targis
04-29-2009, 02:49 AM
Why can't they just have his current power evolve to where he can store the powers he copies without lossing them.

Superboy2
04-29-2009, 08:50 AM
I'm sure it will evolve. I
m hoping there is a better fight scene between him and Sylar/Sylar as Nathan. Like what they foreshadowed in FYG. They didn't even have any scenes together in season two.

gja1926
04-29-2009, 08:57 AM
i agreed with u hope he get his old power back and right now he has sylar abilities so i think a little help with Parkman and his son..... peter is the strongest out all of them therefore next season i think his going bad when he find out what happen to Nathan:confused::confused:
I really hope he get his power back, if not his old one then maybe have multable powers but has to touch to get them.[/QUOTE]

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the haitian should been more involve this season and to be quite honest his the only man that can stop people with abilities nobody can't sneak up on him there next season i hope his more involve with noah cause from what i heard the company is coming back season 4 :confused:

Superboy2
04-29-2009, 09:17 AM
What I don't get is how can Matt do more than the Haitian? Is the Haitian more evolved in his power cause hes been using it for nearly two decades or what? It seems as though there abilities are the same.

SmallWille
04-29-2009, 10:43 AM
I think peter got all of his powers back because how did he survive fighting sylar he would've been destroyed

Actually he could have changed power a few times during the fight, making him able to fight without being destroyed. And I don't think Peter got multiple powers at this time, but I want the old power back so badly it hurts inside.

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What I don't get is how can Matt do more than the Haitian? Is the Haitian more evolved in his power cause hes been using it for nearly two decades or what? It seems as though there abilities are the same.

My guess is that Matt is able to put mind blocks in much like Charles Xavier in Xmen but the Haitian just destroys the memories.

Superboy2
04-29-2009, 11:04 AM
Wouldn't Peter have gotten the healing back?

Bluegemini
04-29-2009, 11:06 AM
The way they have made it sound it that he has still only got 1 power, so he never took all of Sylar powers, he seems to have to choose which one he wanted.

sleo
04-29-2009, 11:38 AM
I agree with those who say that one of the most important reasons the show is falling is Peter's down-graded ability. In V1 we saw a Peter who was struggling to learn how to use his abilities , we saw the good Peter whowants to help people and we hoped that in the future he would learn more about his powers and eventually become a true and powerfull hero. Instead in V2 we shaw Peter without his memories exploring his abilities once again and in V3 he was playing god with the army of abilities he acquired. I am okay with the idea of Peter having to touch someone to take his power but for God's shake he must be able to store them. That's Peter. Interestingly, I liked V4 Peter (even without his original ability) more than the one we saw in V3. I expect V5 to be Peter's "redemption".
P.S. If you wiki Peter Petrelli you will see that the writers said that Peter is still learning his new ability (as he did in S1)

Zeth Duuron
04-29-2009, 01:49 PM
I don't know, I still think the Haitian should have had a MAJOR part in the reason on why Sylar is stopped. What I don't exactly get is why in the limo, when Peter touched Sylar, and took the ability, he lost his shape shifting power. I mean, when Peter took Natan's flying ability, Nathan could still fly, so what gives?

I don't know why everyone assumes Peter absorbed all of Sylar's powers. The only reason the shapeshifting stuff went haywire is because Peter was using it back against Sylar, so he kept switching up with Sylar absorbing different DNA trying to get to the President, summarily short-circuiting Sylar's shapeshifting power.

I'll have to check back about healed but bloody scars on Pete. Which I think is total fanboy wishfully-thought nonsense. And true, Sylar should have been able to take Peter out in short order, but with two people flying against him, all Peter had to do was touch him. And then hopefully find a way back in the window before plummeting to his death. At once, implausible, but that's where the suspension of disbelief comes into play. And even though one-power Pete + flying man Nathan = weaksauce to Sylar's 1337sauce, it's still two people with powers going against Sylar at once, and not necessarily to defeat him, but just touch him and then get back to safety. Looks like Nathan got the short end of the stick.

kyle747
04-29-2009, 03:02 PM
it's pathetic.

This show fails epic after season one because of the absurd writing - and the lack or misuse of powers is one of the key problems in the series.

I mean we have Sylar shape shifting and his clothes change. Please !

The reason they dropped Peter's powers is simple. Same reason they did it to Hiro and the same reason the show will fail. It's hard work to come up with challenges & plots when your characters are not powerless leaves in the wind.

If they behave like real adults with power then the dialogue, challenges and plots would be much more exciting than the boring nonsense we've seen since S1.

Has anyone gone back and watched S1 ? I watched it in HD last week-end and it was fantastic. The beautiful scenes of Peter and his moment of truth stepping off the roof and attempting to fly were repeated throughout the first season.
And they were amazing. ****ing fantastic.

Of course the whole parallel evolution thing with Peter and Sylar turned out to be pointless - since Peter is now just a one-trick pony.
So did Peter's scenes with Chris Eccleston where he learn's to use his power.

Also I ****ing hate Matt Parkman. The actor involved is TERRIBLE and his dialgue, shifting love interests and everything else about him put my teeth on edge.
I was praying Sylar would kill him.

Final Thought - BSG managed to have movie quality special effects every week despite being on a fringe network. Too bad heroes special effects are so limited and pathetic. Where is the money for this going ? This is a network show and they couldn't show the fight scene ?
You're kidding right ? That's the season-ending payoff ?

Lame

Bluegemini
04-29-2009, 03:13 PM
I was so gutted when i finished watching heroes final episode, saying that the whole season was pretty bad, so i watched my other programme which really put a smile on my face "guys i know kung-fu" : )

Level5
04-29-2009, 05:03 PM
I agree with kyle747 on some points. The show has gone over the edge on what is possible with evolved human powers. (Like their clothes changing when they shape shift, that's just really lame.) I think this show needs to review what made season one so good and try to get back some of those qualities. But if you ask me it's too late for this show, I think it will continue on its path until--well, you know what will happen.

I really liked season one because they didn't really do this with the powers, or at least not nearly has bad. And the one limitation for Peter was that he didn't know what powers he had, most of the time. Like if he walks past some random person on the street, would he know who he's getting the power from? Because he does have to think about how that person makes him feel to use their power, right? And if you ask me that's a great limitation to his old power, because he would really have to know that person before he could use their power. But they kinda forgot that, I guess.

Oh well, it was good while it lasted.

Vasser
04-29-2009, 06:18 PM
I was thinking earlier today about something that a lot of you Heroes fan might find interesting. We all found out in "I am Sylar" episode that Sylar was losing it. He was apparently changing his DNA without knowing it. Like having an extra tooth and also we discovered in "An Invisible Thread" that he actually was able to change his own genetic make up on his own by moving the little button in the back of his head. It's apparent he can change and adjust his DNA however he sees fit. Whats to say that Peter can't do that with his DNA since we all saw that he has the shape shifting ability, why couldn't he bring back his empathic ability by adjusting his own DNA.

What does everyone think?

targis
04-29-2009, 07:19 PM
I was thinking earlier today about something that a lot of you Heroes fan might find interesting. We all found out in "I am Sylar" episode that Sylar was losing it. He was apparently changing his DNA without knowing it. Like having an extra tooth and also we discovered in "An Invisible Thread" that he actually was able to change his own genetic make up on his own by moving the little button in the back of his head. It's apparent he can change and adjust his DNA however he sees fit. Whats to say that Peter can't do that with his DNA since we all saw that he has the shape shifting ability, why couldn't he bring back his empathic ability by adjusting his own DNA.

What does everyone think?


I think there are so many ways that the writers could easily have given Peter his og power back or made his current one work in a similar way and that they just like making people mad.:mad:

tigerstyle
04-29-2009, 07:43 PM
they really need to give pete his power back period :) season finale was such a let down we been waiting for the vs match between sylar and pete all season and then thye go have it behind close doors in last 10 15 mins of show , shamefull.


Does anyone else think the reason the show is failing is because Peter lost his power?

And yes, I'm outraged that Peter still has his lame one-power-at-a-time power, and that we still haven't really seen any development on his character.

Rival X The Great
04-30-2009, 08:52 AM
i was really hoping Peter will get his powers back as well as Hiro.

unsafe
04-30-2009, 10:27 AM
i was really hoping Peter will get his powers back as well as Hiro.


Why? Then they'll just get sick from using their power and can't use them. What is the friggin point of this show anymore?

cklookalike89
04-30-2009, 12:00 PM
I really hope he gets his original powers back because i barely enjoy watching this show now because we never get to see him do anything. Please change this soon

Superboy2
04-30-2009, 12:05 PM
I was disappointed in not only was there no real Sylar/Peter fight, the way they had Sylar be Nathan. I'm hoping in season four there is a Sylar/Peter fight and not just a little one like in FYG.

LOONEY
04-30-2009, 12:10 PM
That would have been the most logical power for him to take, wouldn't it? Unfortunately, that's not what he did.
Wow what's it like writing for one of the coolest shows on TV, we are all jealous.

What makes it so, because you typed " That's not what he did! " how do you know.
He took them all, wait for it. THAT'S WHAT HE DID!

Superboy2
04-30-2009, 12:13 PM
Peter said to Sylar,"Didn't think I would take that one did you." So I'm assuming he only has the shape-shifting.

targis
04-30-2009, 02:12 PM
I hope they make it known beyond any doubt what Power/s Peter has in the next Graphic Novel.

I just really want to know this for sure and not have to wait until next season for it.

Superboy2
04-30-2009, 02:35 PM
Same here.

LILVILLE
04-30-2009, 05:48 PM
i wuld like 2 c pete with his og back but i like how he had 2 rely on more than his power 2 be a hero which will help him in the future imo..also depowered peter did somethin superpete culdnt stop sylar even tho we know were that went

zetnom49
05-01-2009, 12:52 AM
peter said "bet u didnt think i TOOK that one from you" but im hopin he took all his powers beacuse with SYlar bein nathan for the next volume that would leave peter to be the bad guy becuz he woulda took the hunger as well, which would be bad ass. but i hope he gets his original empathy power back

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Look closely. He DID heal his cuts, he just didn't wipe away the blood.
And he didn't fly after them because the whole 'imitating the president' thing was a better idea to lure Sylar.
ya but he limped out the room when he was running