No consequences for Lois?

[wingster55]

It seemed like there weren't alot of consequences for Lois fabricating a story and getting her 2 closest friends in danger. Sure Clark getting shot wasn't a benefit but at the end she gets a story out of it.

[SGuthrie27]

Partially agreed, wingster55, but she did seem to go through a lot of mental second-guessing herself and emotional turmoil and trauma as a result, which hopefully was enough to prove to her that her actions, when motivated for selfish purposes, can often lead to pretty bad consequences for others.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[-Nora-]

What consequences did you have in mind?

[gilliang]

Where's Chloe's consequences for killing a man and harboring a monster? Maybe this show just doesn't do consequences.

[wingster55]

Someone reprimanding her for ridiculous stunt and how it hurt her friends.
How it's totally unethical to completely fabricate a story. Only Jimmy mentioned it and she brushed it off. From what I gather Lois seems to crave the fame and not spreading the truth.



Where's Chloe's consequences for killing a man and harboring a monster?

She didn't kill anyone. Sebastian was the influence of Braniac. How is that even debatable?
Harboring Braniac..i'd say what she has to do to cover for him is the consequence. Plus we're not done with that whole aspect yet.
Plus what she's doing is to protect her friends and the world. Lois' stunt was just to get recognition by landing the RBB interview.

[SGuthrie27]

But she still could'nt do what she did if she wasn't under the influence of Brainiac. Chloe in and of herself does not have the abilities to wipe a man's brain as clean as a blank slate. Brainiac was either partially or totally in control at that point. And as for harboring a monster, we know that's going to lead to further consequences for Chloe (and possibly everyone around her) by season's end. What I love about both Lois AND Chloe is that the two characters do seem to learn from their mistakes and try to make better choices as a result of them. Let's hope the same holds true here and that Season 9 brings more great storylines for both of Smallville's leading ladies.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[-Nora-]

Someone reprimanding her for ridiculous stunt and how it hurt her friends.

I think Lois knew that herself and it was pretty darn obvious.


How it's totally unethical to completely fabricate a story.

Except that Lois WAS out there as Stiletto and DID all those things she wrote about. So it wasn't fabricated in that sense.


From what I gather Lois seems to crave the fame and not spreading the truth.

If Lois was after fame, she would've published the RBB story. Instead, she was simply offering him an ear if he ever needed one.

[wingster55]

She also had those "quotes".
Just look how upset she was that she wasn't recognized in the opening scene.

[lanaishot565]

It's fine that it's your personal view. In my view all of Chloe's actions from that time period should be questioned since she had him in her and affecting her.
Also consider how it happened. She overloaded his brain. That's not something Chloe Sullivan can do normally.

I have come to the conclusion that if Chloe and if Lana DEFINITELY did this she would have been ragged on but Lois nooooooo. :rolleyes:

[-Nora-]

She also had those "quotes".
Just look how upset she was that she wasn't recognized in the opening scene.

I'd be worried if she wasn't upset. She should be.

Lois messed up, she realized it and she admitted it and learned.

Chloe messes up, she knows it and she does nothing about it.

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I have come to the conclusion that if Chloe and if Lana DEFINITELY did this she would have been ragged on but Lois nooooooo. :rolleyes:

There's nothing wrong with messing up (in fact that's why we love Lois), it's the way you handle it that matters. And Lois handled it perfectly.

[wingster55]

Chloe messes up, she knows it and she does nothing about it.


Again what can she do?

For Lois yes she knows better now but i'm just tired of characters not getting called out when they do ridiculous things. Only Chloe and Luthors really ever get it.

[-Nora-]

Again what can she do?

Be honest with her best friend?

[gilliang]

When has Chloe ever been called out? Nothing comes to mind...

Lois felt badly about what she did, you could tell when she brought Clark breakfast and was all flustered and apologetic...she knows she made a mistake.

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Be honest with her best friend?

Exactly, Nora.

[amalie]

Okay I'm staying away from the Chloe debate, as for Lois.....

She took no pride in her front page story and felt responsible for getting Clark shot. I think it's safe to say she learnt her lesson, is it really necessary to punish her further.

[Violet-Shadow]

Okay I'm staying away from the Chloe debate, as for Lois.....


Yeah, me too.

And Lois wasn't really excused for her actions. Jimmy, Clark, and Chloe all called her on it, and she clearly felt guilty. Clark even lectured her on it, as she told Chloe. Later, she didn't feel good about the story she had written because of the results of her actions that had led to her getting that story.

As for the point that all she wants is fame, to a certain extent that's true. Lois wants to be a famous reporter - and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm sure EVERY reporter has desired to be more than just a basement reporter (like Lois is now). In order to gain that fame, she did something that wasn't so smart, that others told her wasn't a good idea, and that she realized wasn't such a good idea herself in the end. Part of Lois' storyline is about becoming the world renowned reporter she will one day be. Along the way, she's bound to make mistakes but if she learns from them, as she did, she's all the better for them and is one step closer to becoming the Lois Lane we all know she will be.

[gilliang]

Yeah, me too.

And Lois wasn't really excused for her actions. Jimmy, Clark, and Chloe all called her on it, and she clearly felt guilty. Clark even lectured her on it, as she told Chloe. Later, she didn't feel good about the story she had written because of the results of her actions that had led to her getting that story.

As for the point that all she wants is fame, to a certain extent that's true. Lois wants to be a famous reporter - and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm sure EVERY reporter has desired to be more than just a basement reporter (like Lois is now). In order to gain that fame, she did something that wasn't so smart, that others told her wasn't a good idea, and that she realized wasn't such a good idea herself in the end. Part of Lois' storyline is about becoming the world renowned reporter she will one day be. Along the way, she's bound to make mistakes but if she learns from them, as she did, she's all the better for them and is one step closer to becoming the Lois Lane we all know she will be.

Very well-said.

[Timester]

It seemed like there weren't alot of consequences for Lois fabricating a story and getting her 2 closest friends in danger. Sure Clark getting shot wasn't a benefit but at the end she gets a story out of it.

And about Chloe keeping her laptop in the car, with important info? Which was the reason why Stiletto appeared in the first place.

If you want to play the blame game, start right at the beginning.

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She also had those "quotes".

Just like Clark quotes Superman, all the time.

[ginevrakent]

She is? They shared one kiss which she broke off rather quickly. All we've gotten from her is friendship and maybe slight flirtation.

Except nothing can kill Davis. Clark can get killed.

Well, according to the trailer for Beast Chloe and Davis will be sharing another kiss. Furthermore, the slight flirtation you mention occurred when Chloe was engaged, then married and these actions alone have really tarnished her in my eyes. Her flip flopping has irked be as well. In Eternal Chloe rags on Clark for not being a shoulder to cry on like Davis, but in Stiletto Clark offers to be there for her and she says she needs space. It has become too much of a pattern for Chloe to hold things inside when there are people who want to help her.

Also, to me the problem now is that Clark doesn't know that Davis cannot be killed. He thinks he's dead now, and even remarked upon how much less of a fight and a threat Doomsday really seemed to be when he was burning the photo at the end of Eternal. Besides, even if Davis cannot be killed, Clark and the JL could be using this time to figure out a way to dispose of Davis, as has been done in other media.

In my opinion, Stiletto was an episode that gave us parallel storylines with Lois, Chloe, even Jimmy. In the scene at the Talon apartment, Lois asks Chloe if she ever got in over her head, and Chloe's reaction implicitly showed that she had with her relationship with Davis. The difference is Lois owns up to her mistake in her moment of introspection at the DP with Clark while Chloe fails to do the same later in her final scene with Clark. Lois experienced the consequences of Clark, Chloe, and Jimmy expressing their disappointment in her for her tactics to get the RBB story and Clark and Jimmy getting hurt. She may have gotten a story out of it, but even Clark saw that Lois wasn't as celebratory as she had been in the past with champagne toasts because she was feeling remorseful about how things turned out.

The problem with Chloe now is that I think she's remorseful as well. She showed that she has regrets about her marriage and still cares enough about Jimmy to check his facebook page. She also finally saw the reality of what harboring Davis would entail when she literally realized that by helping him she has blood on her hands.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that Lois did experience consequences. I think time will tell what additional consequences Chloe will experience.

[bigblueplanet]

Yes. There’s definitely consequence for Lois.

Clark can always pretend his old *scar* hurts whenever he wants Lois to shut her mouth!

[amalie]

Yes. There’s definitely consequence for Lois.

Clark can always pretend his old *scar* hurts whenever he wants Lois to shut her mouth!

:lol: It was a nice scene in the DP with Clark pretending to be in pain.

[Violet-Shadow]

ginevrakent - IA with your post. I did see those parallels between Chloe and Lois. Lois learned a great deal from her experience, IMO, and was held accountable. I believe future episodes will probably show Chloe being held accountable for her actions also.

[zHeN_zHeN]

You live, you learn. Oh, well... :p


Yes. There’s definitely consequence for Lois.

Clark can always pretend his old *scar* hurts whenever he wants Lois to shut her mouth!

:lol: I loved how he groaned in "pain" like he did. It was too cute.

You know, he should do it just to get Lois to do things for him.

Lois: Oh! Let me get a pillow for you. Foot message? Sure! Would you like a back rub too? Coffee? Okay, I'll be right back!

:lol:

But, that'll probably only last a second.

Clark: Oooh... I'm still feeling a little sore.
Lois: Here. *throws a hot pack at his chest*

:D

[Bizarrolover]

And about Chloe keeping her laptop in the car, with important info? Which was the reason why Stiletto appeared in the first place.

If you want to play the blame game, start right at the beginning.


Good point, Bruno. Lois became Stiletto to save her cousin who did the stupid mistake of carrying around her laptop with secret information about the Justice League. I don't know if the goon from Intergang was a hacker or a computer techie, but it took him only a moment to open the league's database, what means that there was no security in that computer and that Chloe is being extremely careless and irresponsible in her job as watchtower. Clark didn't get shot because of Stiletto, he went there to recover Chloe's laptop and protect his identity as well as the ones of his fellow leaguers.

Lois made a mistake this episode, and she took responsibility for it. People learn from their mistakes and Lois learned her lesson that made her a better person. She was remorseful and apologetic. She didn't even commit a crime, but apparently, for some people, she should be torched for her mistakes.

[bigblueplanet]

:lol: It was a nice scene in the DP with Clark pretending to be in pain.

Yep! It sure was! :D


You live, you learn. Oh, well... :p



:lol: I loved how he groaned in "pain" like he did. It was too cute.

You know, he should do it just to get Lois to do things for him.

Lois: Oh! Let me get a pillow for you. Foot message? Sure! Would you like a back rub too? Coffee? Okay, I'll be right back!

:lol:

But, that'll probably only last a second.

Clark: Oooh... I'm still feeling a little sore.
Lois: Here. *throws a hot pack at his chest*

:D

:lol:

Oh yeah, those are certainly grave consequences for Lois! lol

Though, unluckily for Clark, it won’t last forever, b/c you know, it only works as long as Lois stays away from taking a close look at his rather super-in-shape abs….. :D

[RedKRules]

It seemed like there weren't alot of consequences for Lois fabricating a story and getting her 2 closest friends in danger. Sure Clark getting shot wasn't a benefit but at the end she gets a story out of it.

Consequences only apply for some people on this show.

[LoveHurts38]

Lois did state did some wrong things she did not even celebrate for being front page.

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Yes. There’s definitely consequence for Lois.

Clark can always pretend his old *scar* hurts whenever he wants Lois to shut her mouth!

I love that scene:lol:

[ginevrakent]

Consequences only apply for some people on this show.

Do you mind explaining your statement here? I ask because it really makes no sense, at least to me, based on what happened in the episode.

Several explanations have been provided as to what consequences Lois experienced in this episode. It looks like you just read the original post, and responded with a blanket statement that ignored a lot of the discussion about this issue.

So really, care to expand on your thoughts? I'm sure they'd be very enlightening.

[Bizarrolover]

Originally Posted by wingster55 http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4768899#post4768899)
It seemed like there weren't alot of consequences for Lois fabricating a story and getting her 2 closest friends in danger. Sure Clark getting shot wasn't a benefit but at the end she gets a story out of it.


Chloe put the entire Justice League in danger. Clark got shot while recovering her laptop. No one pointed their finger at her.



Originally Posted by bigblueplanet http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4769100#post4769100)
Yes. There’s definitely consequence for Lois.

Clark can always pretend his old *scar* hurts whenever he wants Lois to shut her mouth!

Or when he wants her to bring him coffee to his desk! I loved how caring she was. Look what a little of guilt does to the tough Lois Lane!

[amalie]

Or when he wants her to bring him coffee to his desk! I loved how caring she was. Look what a little of guilt does to the tough Lois Lane!


Clark totally milked it but in the end he didn't really get anything, Lois ate the breakfast :lol: Clark's face when she took the last piece was priceless.

[borednow]

The only person who was actually hurt by Lois' mistake was Jimmy. If anyone has a right to complain it would be him. Clark was there after the laptop. Lois saved his life jumping down through that window, he saved her life by jumping in front of a bullet but Clark being there hand nothing to do with her Stiletto story.

Lois jumped through a skylight to save her friends putting herself in danger because she thought it was her fault they were there.

She never published the fake story, and Jimmy is so happy to get himself some drug money I'm sure he doesn't give a crap about being beaten up, but you can bet with how Lois was acting, she's buying Jimmy a new camera...

Plus even though it was a mistake, Lois was trying to help Jimmy by having him take the photos. She A) Paid him, and B) tried to talk to him about getting back into being a photo journalist...

And on Jimmy's side of things it was nice to see someone waiting to get involved in anything after his marriage broke up...

[amalie]

...but you can bet with how Lois was acting, she's buying Jimmy a new camera...




Unfortunately he'll probably end up pawning it for drug money :(

[drvr8]

Or when he wants her to bring him coffee to his desk! I loved how caring she was. Look what a little of guilt does to the tough Lois Lane!

While Lois may have felt a little guilty I think her main feeling was fear of losing Clark completely. When she said that line, "You're the one with the . . . " and stops because she can't even finish the thought and continues with "Smallville, if you hadn't been there to . . . " and the look she gives Clark are definitely not guilt, but admiration, wonder, and I think a little bit of that repressed love she's been hiding behind her wall of hostility. It's clear Clark really shook her foundation because of his selfless act and realizing that he would put his life on the line for are all incredible revelations to her.

[bennyjr123]

Yeah, i think this topic is unfair to Lois, and in result people are posting here and being unfair to Chloe

For Lois: Lois suffered consenquences of watching two people she cares about get seriously hurt. I think that's consenquence enough. And she got a story out of it, cuz Lois Lane is hot like that. lol

For Chloe: Okay, I'm getting really sick of all this. I'm not going deny that Chloe has feelings for Davis. I feel like she's doing this for two reasons. Ultimately to protect Clark, but also because she believes she can save Davis. She's probably a bit in denial. But the arguement to say she's not being loyal to Clark isn't fair at all, because we all know that when it came down to it, she killed Davis for him, and can you really deny that she would do it again if she had to? She knows Clark refuses to kill Davis, and if he knows he might do something reckless. She's doing her best so please give her a break.

[ginevrakent]

Yeah, i think this topic is unfair to Lois, and in result people are posting here and being unfair to Chloe

For Lois: Lois suffered consenquences of watching two people she cares about get seriously hurt. I think that's consenquence enough. And she got a story out of it, cuz Lois Lane is hot like that. lol

For Chloe: Okay, I'm getting really sick of all this. I'm not going deny that Chloe has feelings for Davis. I feel like she's doing this for two reasons. Ultimately to protect Clark, but also because she believes she can save Davis. She's probably a bit in denial. But the arguement to say she's not being loyal to Clark isn't fair at all, because we all know that when it came down to it, she killed Davis for him, and can you really deny that she would do it again if she had to? She knows Clark refuses to kill Davis, and if he knows he might do something reckless. She's doing her best so please give her a break.

I think the only thing I fault Chloe for is her loyalty. I agree that what she's doing, she doing for what I think most people would agree is the greater good of saving Clark--the hero meant to save the world. I don't like Chloe's growing comfort with murder for the good of others, but I do think she's doing her best to be a force for good in this world. Oh, and I agree that the comparison game is getting tiresome. Both Lois and Chloe are complex characters who, like the rest of us, have good and bad qualities. Sometimes the good will outweigh the bad, and vice versa. I still love my Lois, and even though I'm growing annoyed with Chloe I am open to embracing her again depending on how this whole Doomsday thing works out.

[dru-zod2501]

the show dealing with real consequences for their characters? yeah, that'll be the day :rolleyes:

[Black Panda]

She never published the fake story
Yeah she did, page 10. If not, where did the Bluretto shippers come from? Unless she created them through sock-puppetry.

As for consequences, I think loss of friend's respect counts as a consequence. She also made some ammends for putting people in danger by trying to get them out.

It does seem a little backwards that she gets rewarded with a legitimate story, but if you see it as a reward for owning up to her mistake and taking responsibilty, I think it works.

[ginevrakent]

the show dealing with real consequences for their characters? yeah, that'll be the day :rolleyes:

You mean like Thursday when Stiletto aired and we saw Lois experience consequences. How about the hundreds of other episodes when Clark has been made to apologize and anguish over his actions. He lost his father because of his actions, phantoms escaped from the Phantom Zone because of him, etc. Lois got kicked out of college because of drinking, Chloe's friendship with Clark suffered for a bit because of how she betrayed him out of a jealousy and a broken heart, Pete got his arm broken because he got cocky with his gum induced meteor power, etc.

Smallville's characters have experienced consequences, in my view, so I really don't get what is gained from arguing that everyone on the show constantly gets away with things.

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Yeah she did, page 10. If not, where did the Bluretto shippers come from? Unless she created them through sock-puppetry.

The story wasn't published. The city editor told Lois he wouldn't run it without a photo. Lois had Jimmy take the photos, but they were destroyed along with his camera. No photo=No story. The Bluretto shippers was a careless writing mistake, which is common on Smallville (see Shelby's questionable gender, Eternal retcons, etc.).

[quinny06]

[Mod Edit]

[RedKRules]

[Mod Edit]

[Atomic girl]

MOD NOTE: This thread has entirely too much Chloe discussion for the topic at hand. Please keep the Chloe comments minimal, it is not a Lois/Chloe debate thread.

[xrayvision]

The consequences I'm wondering about Lois is criminals finding out that she was Stiletto. Mannheim knows about Clark's break in & how he works for the Daily Planet now. He also heard Clark call out Lois' name after the gun was shot.

[liana]

Yeah she did, page 10. If not, where did the Bluretto shippers come from? Unless she created them through sock-puppetry.

No, she didn't. The editor told her that it would go in page 10 if she didn't have any pictures. So, she hired Jimmy to get the pictures. The non-published story was in her desk right after the 'talk' with the editor, and Clark read it. Later, after he found out she was Stiletto, he told her to make sure the story didn't get published, and she agreed and that's why she went after Jimmy: he was supposed to email her editor with the Stiletto's pictures, and she was trying to stop him in order to 'kill' the story. In her talk with Chloe, she told her as well that the story was not going to get published.

The Bluretto shippers was something that I had no idea where it came from. It wasn't for the story, considering that it was stated, more than once in the episode, that story was never published. The only reasonable explanation I can see for them is the fact that Chloe mentioned that Lois told the police that they were rescued by Stilletto. Maybe that was the source for the shippers.

If you doubt me, just check the episode.

And Lois did face consequences. Everyone lectured her about it: Clark, Jimmy and Chloe. She realized she was in the wrong, and she didn't go on with her original idea. She also had to face her friends being hurt and almost dying because of her mistake. I would say that, all things considered, she did face much more than in is usual in SV.

[abbaspice1]

No, she didn't. The editor told her that it would go in page 10 if she didn't have any pictures. So, she hired Jimmy to get the pictures. The non-published story was in her desk right after the 'talk' with the editor, and Clark read it. Later, after he found out she was Stiletto, he told her to make sure the story didn't get published, and she agreed and that's why she went after Jimmy: he was supposed to email her editor with the Stiletto's pictures, and she was trying to stop him in order to 'kill' the story. In her talk with Chloe, she told her as well that the story was not going to get published.

The Bluretto shippers was something that I had no idea where it came from. It wasn't for the story, considering that it was stated, more than once in the episode, that story was never published. The only reasonable explanation I can see for them is the fact that Chloe mentioned that Lois told the police that they were rescued by Stilletto. Maybe that was the source for the shippers.

If you doubt me, just check the episode.

And Lois did face consequences. Everyone lectured her about it: Clark, Jimmy and Chloe. She realized she was in the wrong, and she didn't go on with her original idea. She also had to face her friends being hurt and almost dying because of her mistake. I would say that, all things considered, she did face much more than in is usual in SV.

TY!

ITA! I wish people actually watched and pay attention to the FACTS of the episode.

[Bizarrolover]

It does seem a little backwards that she gets rewarded with a legitimate story, but if you see it as a reward for owning up to her mistake and taking responsibilty, I think it works.

The editor didn't 'reward' her, he just thought her story was worthy of the front page. .



the show dealing with real consequences for their characters? yeah, that'll be the day :rolleyes:


I think there will be consequences. Intergang now know who Clark is, that he works for the Planet, they know the identity of the guys from the justice league, all thanks to Chloe's laptop. They know Lois and they'll plan their revenge for sending 'ugly' to jail. I think Intergang will play a big role next season, that's why I think they were introduced so late in the series. They wouldn't have brought them if they weren't coming back and this episode set the ground for future situations.

I understand that in this show, characters don't go to jail for their crimes (if they did, Chloe would be locked in a cell for Sebastian's death) but you can't say they aren't punished. Clark lost his father because of his actions, he saw the love of his life marrying another man, Lana was infected permanently with kryptonite, Chloe lives unhappily in a basement with a monster. There are consequences, just not the traditional ones. And in some cases, we didn't see the end of it yet.

[Kid Collins]

I think Lois knew that herself and it was pretty darn obvious.



Well according to many people, that's just not good enough.

Said character MUST be verbally chastised by another character about what she/he did wrong.

Paying for the consequences and admitting wrong doing is not good enough.

I know this because that's been one of the complaints about Lana from many members in this site.

Welcome to the club Lois.:lol:

[Selina]

I'll be the first to say I was not impressed with her methods to get a story and I still stand by that but I don't understand how anyone say that there wasn't concequences.

Chloe, Clark and Jimmy all expressed a negative reaction when they discovered she was Stiletto. I mean, come on, they were hardly jumping for glee were they?

Also Lois herself discovered the error in her ways and showed genuine remorse for what her actions had caused. Was she at fault? Yes. I wont deny that. However there most definatly was concequences. She learned the hard way but it was a lesson well learned.

[Kid Collins]

Chloe, Clark and Jimmy all expressed a negative reaction when they discovered she was Stiletto. I mean, come on, they were hardly jumping for glee were they?



But it wasn't a verbal smackdown that Lex would repeatedly get from Lionel. You know where Lionel made Lex feel like he's the lowest scum on the Earth.

Chloe, Jimmy and Clark, was more like LOIS what are you doing? It was so soft and no real anger behind it.

It's just not good enough.

That said I could care less, but I knew right after watching this ep, someone would bring up that Lois didn't pay for her actions in Stilletto. :lol:

[Selina]

But it wasn't a verbal smackdown that Lex would repeatedly get from Lionel. You know where Lionel made Lex feel like he's the lowest scum on the Earth.

That's because it was Lionel. He would speak to his son like dirt, even when did nothing wrong. Even in the flashbacks of Lionel and young Lex, he was seen to be nasty to him.

Not that is anything wrong with a father reprimanding his child if he did something wrong but with Lionel, there was often an excuse just to have another pop and when he did, he was often ruthless.


Chloe, Jimmy and Clark, was more like LOIS what are you doing? It was so soft and no real anger behind it.

There doesn't need to be anger to get a point across. They weren't rooting for her to do it and she knew dam well too. If they said nothing, I could understand your point.


That said I could care less, but I knew right after watching this ep, someone would bring up that Lois didn't pay for her actions in Stilletto. :lol:

Neither did I because there seems to be that mentality with all the characters on SV, not that there is anything wrong with that of course. I just dont agree that in this case Lois didn't.

[liana]

Well according to many people, that's just not good enough.

Said character MUST be verbally chastised by another character about what she/he did wrong.

Paying for the consequences and admitting wrong doing is not good enough.

I know this because that's been one of the complaints about Lana from many members in this site.

Welcome to the club Lois.:lol:

I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes, I believe, it all comes down to if 'I don't like the character then said character is never punished enough for their wrong doing, even if they were punished.' :(

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I understand that in this show, characters don't go to jail for their crimes (if they did, Chloe would be locked in a cell for Sebastian's death) but you can't say they aren't punished. Clark lost his father because of his actions, he saw the love of his life marrying another man, Lana was infected permanently with kryptonite, Chloe lives unhappily in a basement with a monster. There are consequences, just not the traditional ones. And in some cases, we didn't see the end of it yet.

Exactly. But then again, considering Lois' story wasn't even published, what other consequences should she face? Being fired for a story that she 'killed'? She was enough chastised by Clark, and the reason why I believe that Chloe didn't lecture her as well is because I believe she didn't feel like she should, and Jimmy was also facing his own hell. I don't see why any of them would stop being friends with her for a mistake she did repent for and made amends. It was quite clear that she learned her lesson for it.

All those other examples you mentioned were also true. Those characters were punished. In season 2-3, Chloe betrayed Clark by making a deal with Lionel, and she was punished for it, facing the effects during season 3-4. Clark chose to not go to the Fortress in the beginning of season 5, and as a direct consequence he lost his powers, was killed and resurrected. Because of his wrong choice, someone else had to die, in exchange of his life. He also decided to only tell Lana the truth about himself because he was afraid she would leave him, and as a consequence, she died. He reversed time to save her, and his father died. I would say that it was a sequence of consequences far worst than his original mistake of not returning to the Fortress.

Lana decided to have a relationship with Lex, in spite of knowing she couldn't entirely trust him. As a consequence, she was lead to believe she was pregnant, she was 'forced' to marry him and she believed she lost her baby. :( I think the only ones who can understand the unnecessary pain she suffered here and the ones that, like me, have lost a baby. :\

So, all those character did face consequences, sometimes even worse than the actual mistakes they have made. Maybe they don't pay for everything, but I would say that they do pay a lot.

[Ella]

So now we are using Lionel Luthor as the model for the type of verbal repercussions that a person should get? Really? Lionel Luthor? The most abusive, most vile father of Smallville? Um....okaaaay.....:rolleyes:

[wingster55]

Exactly. But then again, considering Lois' story wasn't even published, what other consequences should she face? Being fired for a story that she 'killed'?

Her story was published actually

[ginevrakent]

Her story was published actually

Evidence please.

[ChlarkerFan]

Her story was published actually

No. The Stiletto story was never published. What was published in the end was a story about Bruno Manheim. That and her skywriting to the Red-Blue Blur.

[LorelaiG]

Not exactly she got published the Mannheim one not the RBB or Stiletto ones

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No. The Stiletto story was never published. What was published in the end was a story about Bruno Manheim. That and her skywriting to the Red-Blue Blur.

This one was published a long before remember she told Chloe about this at the begining of the episode

[Mr.Magic]

No. The Stiletto story was never published. What was published in the end was a story about Bruno Manheim. That and her skywriting to the Red-Blue Blur.

That can't be. The Stiletto story must've been published, or the Bluretto stuff makes no sense whatsoever.

[Sarevokcz]

That can't be. The Stiletto story must've been published, or the Bluretto stuff makes no sense whatsoever.

plothole? :D or maybe just the news spread fast? especially when it comes to i-net

[cloisthelegendbegins]

That can't be. The Stiletto story must've been published, or the Bluretto stuff makes no sense whatsoever.

I thought that too tbh. But if we compare that fictional site to K-Site and how we get information from people who visit the set or bump into cast members or know someone who knows someone, whose to say the Bluretto fans hadn't got the Stiletto rumour from somewhere else? Manheim knew who she was when he'd fled the scene prior to her saying the name and while his friend was still in jail. It smacks of plot-hole to me.

[Jade4813]

That can't be. The Stiletto story must've been published, or the Bluretto stuff makes no sense whatsoever.

Shelby's now a girl.

I think "this just doesn't make much sense" is a distinct possibility. Besides, they did repeatedly say that the story wasn't published, so...I smell a plot hole. It smells distinctly like...Ah...never mind. ;)

[wingster55]

It was published. Remember Lois was upset it was on page 10?

[cloisthelegendbegins]

It was published. Remember Lois was upset it was on page 10?

No. As per what was onscreen, Lois called her editor out of the Press banquet to get his approval for the story and he told her it could go on page ten. She argued with that and he said she had to get photos for it to go on the front page. She then called Jimmy to get the photos. That was done in one night. And at the same time Bruno went back to the Ace of Clubs and was mysteriously able to name Stiletto as Stiletto without being there when Lois said 'Call me Stiletto' and while his accomplice was in jail.

Plot hole.

[Dresden]

That can't be. The Stiletto story must've been published, or the Bluretto stuff makes no sense whatsoever.

So instead of looking at the facts we are basing this off the Bluretto fansite which was obviously put there as a way for the show to take a teasing jab at the fans? Of course the Bluretto stuff didn't make sense. It was like the photo of the Dahli Lama in the Hex episode. It was a joke! The article that we saw published at the end was "Mob Men Behind Bars" the story was not about Stiletto but about Bruno Manheim. The story that Lois wanted to publish could not be published because her editor demanded photos. Lois hired Jimmy to take the photos but of course Bruno got to the camera before Jimmy could develop them. And during that same time, Lois had changed her mind (as we saw during her conversation with Chloe) and was actively looking for Jimmy to delete the photos. So, no, the story was never published.

[wingster55]

Ah...maybe you're right then.
Or maybe Lois created them ;)

[Dresden]

Ah...maybe you're right then.
Or maybe Lois created them ;)

Even as a joke. NO. At the end of the scene Clark says, "Looks like you got your cover story AFTER ALL." Meaning that before that story (Mob Men Behind Bars, by Lois Lane) there was no OTHER story. So no, the Stiletto story NEVER got published.

[wingster55]

I was referring to the "Bluretto" sites.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Ah...maybe you're right then.
Or maybe Lois created them ;)

:lol: I don't think so. There wasn't really time in between getting Chloe to hospital, getting to the DP, typing up her story, getting her editor out of the banquet, contacting Jimmy, sewing up a suit and then having a photo session.

I have to go by what I'm shown onscreen so I'm calling this one a plothole. But like you I did initially think the article had been published. It's taken me to watch it again tbh.

[Black Panda]

Her story was published actually
Buried on page 10


Even as a joke. NO. At the end of the scene Clark says, "Looks like you got your cover story AFTER ALL."
Cover story as opposed to buried on page 10.


That can't be. The Stiletto story must've been published, or the Bluretto stuff makes no sense whatsoever.
Well, Lois Lane indulging in sock puppetry is an acceptable explaination to me too.

However, if it's published publicly or not it certainly could be possible for the editor to find out he was hoodwinked and take action. Unlikely though, as this is Smallville.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Buried on page 10

Within a couple of hours of her leaving the banquet she called him out of? Show the article onscreen please.



Cover story as opposed to buried on page 10.

Show it onscreen please. And the new article she had done that Clark wanted her to get pulled. The article the pictures were for. As opposed to the article her editor TOLD HER to get pictures for so it could go on the front page. And as opposed to the article shown onscreen on the front page.


Well, Lois Lane indulging in sock puppetry is an acceptable explaination to me too.

Again. Show it onscreen please.

[kelly1142]

I think the 'buried on page 10' reference was where the editor was GOING to put it. He told her to get pictures if she wanted a page 1.

So that's what she tried to do, to move the article YET to be published to page 1.

But Clark caught on to what she was doing, and told her to work on making sure the article did NOT get published.

The only article she got published was the Mannheim one at the end.

[Black Panda]

She certainly made an effort to get her made up story published, didn't she?
It is shown on screen that her editor agreed to publish it, buried on page 10
I never saw him say he was going to hold off. He said "next time", which implies there could be a follow up.
I never saw her ask him to hold off.
So I presume it was published, buried on page 10, as per the editors stated intention.

I did see the Blur-etto fan sites on screen. Something caused the stir. The mobsters didn't seem much like net fan boys to me. So it is reasonable to assume either they were part of Lois scheme to draw out the Blur, or a public reaction to her article.

Again, the damage and potential consequences are greater if published, but the attempt to defraud the public isn't at issue. The fact she gave up the plan and attempted to make ammends is probably enough from a story telling stand point to let it go.

[Dresden]

Buried on page 10



Sigh. The next time you post, please re-watch the episode and pay closer attention to the facts as presented by the episode. Facts: Lois and Chloe were mugged on the night of the press society banquet. That same night Lois went to her editor and pulled him out of the society banquet. That is when that conversation about “page 10” took place, literally minutes after the mugging. THERE WAS NO TIME FOR THE STORY TO BE PUBLISHED. Not that newspapers publish stories in the dead of night anyway, I mean come on! The comment was a reference to where the story WOULD BE published as it was, without a photo, which is why Lois then went to Jimmy to get the photos. If Lois had already published her story, why would she try to publish it again? What type of newspaper runs the same story TWICE!

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It is shown on screen that her editor agreed to publish it, buried on page 10
Wrong. Please stop taking things out of context. You are misinterpreting the scene completely.


I never saw him say he was going to hold off. He said "next time", which implies there could be a follow up.
Seriously. Have you even watched the scene more than once? You are taking the phrase "next time" out of context again. The conversation is this one:

Lois: Page 10? Why don't you just bury my Stiletto sighting with the classifieds while you're at it?
Editor: The next time you pull me from a press society banquet at least get me a story with a picture.

Next time is CLEARLY in reference to Lois pulling him out of the banquet, not a story being published. I mean its right there! THE NEXT TIME YOU PULL ME FROM A PRESS SOCIETY BANQUET.


I never saw her ask him to hold off.It was implied.


So I presume it was published, buried on page 10, as per the editors stated intention.
You clearly presumed WRONG and I have given you more than sufficient evidence to explain what really happened.

[ginevrakent]

She certainly made an effort to get her made up story published, didn't she?
It is shown on screen that her editor agreed to publish it, buried on page 10
I never saw him say he was going to hold off. He said "next time", which implies there could be a follow up.
I never saw her ask him to hold off.
So I presume it was published, buried on page 10, as per the editors stated intention.

Lois also made an effort to NOT get the story published when she went to find Jimmy, etc. All in all, there is no definitive evidence from the episode which suggests that the story wasn't published. In fact, most evidence points to it not being published. So I think your presumption is wrong.


I did see the Blur-etto fan sites on screen. Something caused the stir. The mobsters didn't seem much like net fan boys to me. So it is reasonable to assume either they were part of Lois scheme to draw out the Blur, or a public reaction to her article.

The Blur-etto fan sites are the result of a plot hole. The mobsters knew about Stiletto because when Lois first attacked Chloe's assailant (who was later released from jail) she responds to his question, "What are you, some kind of superhero?" with "You can call me Stiletto." Their knowledge had nothing to do with an article in the Daily Planet.

[Dresden]

I did see the Blur-etto fan sites on screen. Something caused the stir. The mobsters didn't seem much like net fan boys to me. So it is reasonable to assume either they were part of Lois scheme to draw out the Blur, or a public reaction to her article.

OR...it was a joke from the producers to take a teasing jab at the fans!! OR...it was a plot hole like Shelby suddenly being a girl. OR...does it even matter? It was two seconds of screentime! lol

[cloisthelegendbegins]

She certainly made an effort to get her made up story published, didn't she?
It is shown on screen that her editor agreed to publish it, buried on page 10
I never saw him say he was going to hold off. He said "next time", which implies there could be a follow up.
I never saw her ask him to hold off.
So I presume it was published, buried on page 10, as per the editors stated intention.

Ah but that's the thing about presuming as opposed to onscreen evidence. One is an opinion, the other is right there in front of our eyes.

Lois (carrying article): Page ten. Why don't you just bury my Stiletto sighting with the classifieds while you're at it?

Editor: The next time you pull me from a Press Society Banquet at least get me a story with a picture.

Lois: Something tells me Stiletto's got a bad case of camera shy.

Editor: She's not posing for a headshot. Get her in action the street.

Lois: Sure. No problem. I'll just ask to see her schedule of upcoming saves.

Editor: Wha- Did I misjudge you Lane? I thought your game was all about the power of persuasion. Get the picture.

Lois then goes to call Jimmy while still carrying the article. The article that Clark then reads. The article is not shown to go to the copy editing department. The editor has demanded she get a picture to go with it to run it on the front page. The article does not make it to the front page because Lois then has to get Jimmy to take the pictures. Clark tells Lois to stop it from running. The front page article is shown to be the story on the Mob.


I did see the Blur-etto fan sites on screen. Something caused the stir. The mobsters didn't seem much like net fan boys to me. So it is reasonable to assume either they were part of Lois scheme to draw out the Blur, or a public reaction to her article.

First up, it was a general superhero site called SUPERHERO DISCUSSION FORUM. K-Site members can get information about the show and the actors and share it within milliseconds of rumours breaking. Why would this site be any different? Plus I'd have thought a person with Chloe's superior hacking skills would have been able to detect a sock-puppet and recognize the IP address. Investigation is part of who she is after all, isn't it?

We can all speculate all we want. It wasn't explained ONSCREEN and is therefore a plot-hole in an attempt to give a shout out to the fans. As is the fact Bruno knew Stiletto's name without hearing it and while his friend who did hear it was in jail. Show me the onscreen evidence that says otherwise and I'll be proven wrong.

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OR...it was a joke from the producers to take a teasing jab at the fans!! OR...it was a plot hole like Shelby suddenly being a girl. OR...does it even matter? It was two seconds of screentime! lol

Of course it matters. It all goes towards Lois being Satan and the only character on the show not allowed to be on the same journey as everyone else, making mistakes along the way and learning from them - y'know - the way she did in this episode. She was supposed to be a ready made Lois Lane from the get-go and live up to every other version of Lois Lane to the letter, no matter how many versions of Lois Lane there are or how some people might like one version of pre-existing and established Lois Lane's better than the other. She's also supposed to suffer the consequences of every mistake she makes - preferably while burning at the stake - regardless of things like Oliver being a murderer, Jimmy being a drug addict and Chloe keeping a serial killer in her basement while disposing of body parts.

That's the general gist of it IMO.

[Black Panda]

Next time is CLEARLY in reference to Lois pulling him out of the banquet, not a story being published. I mean its right there! THE NEXT TIME YOU PULL ME FROM A PRESS SOCIETY BANQUET.
Why would she pull him out, if not for a story? So next time she pulls him out pretty much is talking about next time she tries to sell him a story while he is doing something he considers important.

The article is not shown to go to the copy editing department.
Journalists deliver stories via soft copy. Now, I am not a journalist but when I have something important to discuss with my boss I print out a hard copy to refer to (or he might), because it's easier that way. It's pretty common behavior.


If Lois had already published her story, why would she try to publish it again? What type of newspaper runs the same story TWICE!
They run follow up to stories as more facts come in all the time.

She told Clark her story would be published the next morning. If you look at the clock on the wall shortly after in the same scene it looks like it is 10:10 approximately. Next, there is an awful lot of stuff going on in this story including sewing a Superheroine get up, Jimmy returning to work a second shift (he's worried about being late) and Lois returning to work and waiting around with Clark listening to the police scanner. When one sees Lois and Clark leaving to chase the scanner crime, the clock on the wall seems to me to read 9:00. If someone is good with screen caps they can double-check the clock times.

I understand why one might assume everything took place in a single night, but there are other indicators that contradict this.


Lois also made an effort to NOT get the story published when she went to find Jimmy, etc.
Lois made an effort to get a story stopped. That I think was taking responsibility, and I appreciated seeing that. What we are arguing about is if that story was a follow up.



The Blur-etto fan sites are the result of a plot hole.
Again, I will also accept that Lois may have planted the posts, if they were not in response to her article. One of the things quoted off the sites was a comment about no one's understanding a hero's life of solitude better than a cape. Lois later echoes that line. That might be suggestive that the post was hers. Or maybe it's just because it's an Action reference to Warrior Angel it's in common usage.

Incidentally, I didn't suggest the mobsters learned of Stiletto from the article. I just meant to point out that they were a possible source of the Blur-Etto posts, but not a very credible one.

Anyhow, I do agree it's unlikely there would be any significant future fall out for Lois if the story was published on page 10 or if it was not. It's certainly indisputable that she attemped to publish a falsified story.


The editor didn't 'reward' her, he just thought her story was worthy of the front page.
No the episode storyline rewarded her. Driers did. It's called poetic justice, or lack thereof. But as I said earlier, I'm OK with her getting that kind of consequence in a story that showed her eventually doing the right thing and trying to make amends.


I think there will be consequences. Intergang now know who Clark is, that he works for the Planet, they know the identity of the guys from the justice league, all thanks to Chloe's laptop.
Yeah, this fall out makes sense.


They know Lois and they'll plan their revenge for sending 'ugly' to jail.
It's kind of weird they didn't go after her too in the episode, isn't it? They went after Chloe because she's on the same camera, but they were trying to get "Stiletto"

[HeroesUnlimited]

It seemed like there weren't alot of consequences for Lois fabricating a story and getting her 2 closest friends in danger. Sure Clark getting shot wasn't a benefit but at the end she gets a story out of it.

She should have been fired.

[Supsfan]

No the episode storyline rewarded her. Driers did. It's called poetic justice, or lack thereof. But as I said earlier, I'm OK with her getting that kind of consequence in a story that showed her eventually doing the right thing and trying to make amends.

Just curious do you feel in Exposed Chloe should have seen the consequences for throwing her Cousin in dangers way when she got her article published? What kind of message did the show send to us that Chloe would use her cousin to get a story and not even apologize for the potential danger and situation she put Lois in?

[ChlarkerFan]

Why would she pull him out, if not for a story? So next time she pulls him out pretty much is talking about next time she tries to sell him a story while he is doing something he considers important.
Exactly. Lois was trying to sell her editor the story in that scene. He didn't buy it because it didn't have a photo.

Journalists deliver stories via soft copy. Now, I am not a journalist but when I have something important to discuss with my boss I print out a hard copy to refer to (or he might), because it's easier that way. It's pretty common behavior.
Um, if she delivered the story via soft copy to her boss how would he even read it? He was at a banquet remember? And how would he even publish it from the time he was at a banquet to the time that Lois was huffin and puffin about the guy wanting to bury the story on page 10 since it didn't' have a photo.

[ginevrakent]

She should have been fired.

Nope. You don't get fired for not doing something that you ultimately decide against doing because you realized you were wrong (with a little help from your friends).

[ChlarkerFan]

Nope. You don't get fired for not doing something that you ultimately decide against doing because you realized you were wrong (with a little help from your friends).

Agreed. :)

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I was referring to the "Bluretto" sites.

Now we are blaming for Lois for the Bluretto sites? Oh my gosh...what next? The depletion of the ozone? :lol: Please guys, let's not over think silly stuff like this. I'm sure the writer just wanted to make fun of us! and it worked because I thought it was so funny!

[ginevrakent]

Why would she pull him out, if not for a story? So next time she pulls him out pretty much is talking about next time she tries to sell him a story while he is doing something he considers important.

She pulled him out of the banquet to sell the story to her editor. He said he would print it on page 10 unless she got a photo. Anything else is pure fanwanking.


Journalists deliver stories via soft copy. Now, I am not a journalist but when I have something important to discuss with my boss I print out a hard copy to refer to (or he might), because it's easier that way. It's pretty common behavior.

Unless you have evidence that this is what Lois did, you are just making it up to prove your point.


They run follow up to stories as more facts come in all the time.

Newspapers do write follow up stories. The Stiletto story with Jimmy Olsen photos, unfortunately, was not a follow up story until you can provide definitive proof that the original story was published on page 10.


She told Clark her story would be published the next morning. If you look at the clock on the wall shortly after in the same scene it looks like it is 10:10 approximately. Next, there is an awful lot of stuff going on in this story including sewing a Superheroine get up, Jimmy returning to work a second shift (he's worried about being late) and Lois returning to work and waiting around with Clark listening to the police scanner. When one sees Lois and Clark leaving to chase the scanner crime, the clock on the wall seems to me to read 9:00. If someone is good with screen caps they can double-check the clock times.

We are talking about a show that repeatedly misrepresents the amount of time it takes to travel from Smallville to Metropolis, and I sincerely doubt we are supposed to meticulously examine screencaps to determine the precise timing of events.


I understand why one might assume everything took place in a single night, but there are other indicators that contradict this.

Those indicators would be....


Lois made an effort to get a story stopped. That I think was taking responsibility, and I appreciated seeing that. What we are arguing about is if that story was a follow up.

Since we have no proof except for fanwanking that story was published on page 10, then there was never a Stiletto story published and thus there was never a follow up to that story.


Again, I will also accept that Lois may have planted the posts, if they were not in response to her article. One of the things quoted off the sites was a comment about no one's understanding a hero's life of solitude better than a cape. Lois later echoes that line. That might be suggestive that the post was hers. Or maybe it's just because it's an Action reference to Warrior Angel it's in common usage.

Unless you have proof, you are just making this stuff up. Lois didn't even come to the conclusion that a superhero's life was a lonely one until she experienced it herself. Her moment of introspection occurred as a result of her time as Stiletto, and was later shared with Clark in the DP scene.


Incidentally, I didn't suggest the mobsters learned of Stiletto from the article. I just meant to point out that they were a possible source of the Blur-Etto posts, but not a very credible one.

So, in your opinion, it is more credible that Lois posted on a superhero shipping site as a sockpuppet?


Anyhow, I do agree it's unlikely there would be any significant future fall out for Lois if the story was published on page 10 or if it was not. It's certainly indisputable that she attemped to publish a falsified story.

Why should Lois experience any additional fallout for killing a falsified story before it went to print? She made a mistake, she experienced the consequences (friends in danger, loss of respect from friends), and she learned from it.


It's kind of weird they didn't go after her too in the episode, isn't it? They went after Chloe because she's on the same camera, but they were trying to get "Stiletto"

They went to Chloe to get info on Stiletto because Chloe carelessly left a laptop with a database of "capes" on it in her car.

[Bizarrolover]

It's kind of weird they didn't go after her too in the episode, isn't it? They went after Chloe because she's on the same camera, but they were trying to get "Stiletto"

They didn't go after her because they didn't know who Lois was until the story (about 'Ugly) was printed. It didn't help that Clark yelled her name when the man pointed his gun at her either. Anyway, it's just an asumption, so we don't know if the criminals made the connection or not. But usually mob chiefs take revenge on the journalists that published their stories, so I guess that that kind of byline will make her a target in the future.

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She should have been fired.

You know, newspaper actually support their reporters when they come up with crazy stuff. Maybe they won't publish the story if there is no real foundation, but they really encourage their journalists to go to extreme situations to find a story. Lois didn't even get her published so the credibility of the paper (let's not forget that the Planet lost some of its reputation after Lex bought it) wasn't tarnished.

[ginevrakent]

They didn't go after her because they didn't know who Lois was until the story (about 'Ugly) was printed. It didn't help that Clark yelled her name when the man pointed his gun at her either. Anyway, it's just an asumption, so we don't know if the criminals made the connection or not. But usually mob chiefs take revenge on the journalists that published their stories, so I guess that that kind of byline will make her a target in the future.

Thank you for pointing this out! I think that adds more evidence that the Stiletto story was never published on page 10. If it had, as you say, Lois probably would have been targeted.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Journalists deliver stories via soft copy. Now, I am not a journalist but when I have something important to discuss with my boss I print out a hard copy to refer to (or he might), because it's easier that way. It's pretty common behavior.


She had to run the hard copy past her editor to submit it - therefore she called him out of the Press Banquet. She was told to get a picture to run with it so it could go on the front page. She took the hard copy with her and phoned Jimmy to get pictures.

When onscreen did she submit the soft copy or even sit at her computer to do it, considering prior to that she didn't have permission to run the story, didn't know where it would go in the paper and was told to get pictures?

[Dresden]

Why would she pull him out, if not for a story? So next time she pulls him out pretty much is talking about next time she tries to sell him a story while he is doing something he considers important. So now you're arguing my point for me? Um...okay. Little refresher. You said:
He said "next time", which implies there could be a follow up. You were trying to pass off the phrase "next time" as being connected to the next time an article was published. You were wrong as I proved:


The conversation is this one:

Lois: Page 10? Why don't you just bury my Stiletto sighting with the classifieds while you're at it?
Editor: The next time you pull me from a press society banquet at least get me a story with a picture.

Next time is CLEARLY in reference to Lois pulling him out of the banquet, not a story being published. I mean its right there! THE NEXT TIME YOU PULL ME FROM A PRESS SOCIETY BANQUET. So yes! Of course the phrase is in reference to the banquet and not the article. That was my point and that was part of my evidence for why the article hadn't been published. There is no evidence to state that the article was published. The comments "next time" and "page 10?" have been taken out of context BY YOU.

For the record, it seems to me that most of the confusion is coming from a pretty shaky story. However, it seems that most of the evidence to support the story being published is either false, relies heavily on speculation, or is very insignificant to even take into consideration:

Evidence to SUPPORT the story being published:
(1) Lois’s comment about page 10
(2) The time frame (because of Lois telling Clark that he would see the comment published tomorrow)
(3) The Bluretto sites
But if you follow the story carefully and just realize that no story and no writing is perfect, all of these can be easily explained.

Let’s begin by going through the basic train of events of the episode, and comment on those three things as we go along.

Lois Lane is at the society banquet at night. Lois and Chloe get mugged. That same night Lois pulls out her boss from the society banquet to talk about her story. It is during this scene that Lois makes the comment about page 10. Here line is: “Page 10? Why don’t you just bury my Stiletto sighting with the classifieds?” Now I CAN see how this line could throw you off because the line could technically mean two different things:

(1) Lois is trying to pitcher her story and the editor says he can publish it, but on page 10. Lois responds by stating, “Page 10?” She’s incredulously because obviously she wants that story on page one so that the Red-Blue Blur can see it.
(2) Lois is responding to seeing her article published and on page 10.

The answer is the first one because the second option doesn’t make sense. The evidence in the story tells us that the story has not been published because quite frankly there hasn’t been any time for the story to be published. The scene is taking place that same night as the mugging. Evidence: (1) Lois is wearing the same dress, (2) her editor is making a comment about being pulled out of a banquet—the same press society banquet that earlier that night Lois was trying to get into, and (3) If you look really hard, you can see that the clock says it’s close to midnight. What type of newspaper publishes articles in the late night? None.

In addition, Clark arrives at the Daily Planet shortly after and Lois tells him, “Patience, Smallville. TOMORROW you can drool over her with the rest of the world.” It is clear that at this point the story HAS not yet published but that Lois has every intention to GET it published TOMORROW once she gets the photos for her editor.

The next time we see Lois she is attempting to get photos from Jimmy Olsen. The exact time or day isn’t clear at this point. Lois leaves Jimmy and says she has a date with RBB. Next we see Chloe and we get the scene about the Bluretto site.

The fact that a site like this one exists is one of the reasons why Lois has supposedly published her article. See, how else can a site like that exist unless an article was published and the world knows about it again? Well at this time the easiest and most obvious answer is one of two:

(1) The site was meant as a teasing poke at the fans and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously and certainly not overanalyzed.
(2) The site was a joke but it was also part of a plothole since the writer (Caroline Dries) obviously overlooked the fact that a site like this could not exists without an article being published.

Those are the two most obvious explanations and NEITHER serve as evidence to support that an article has been published. They are proof of a shaky script at the best. We were meant to believe that this site was real and that these bloggers did know about Stiletto (but not because of the article). Yet if you do need to make this site connected to the story then I can offer you 101 WHODUNIT scenarios about this site that do not relate to actual bloggers who read a published article on Stiletto.

WHO DONE IT? BLURETTO SITE

(1) Lois Lane – To further her attempts to bring out the RBB she created the site.
(2) Chloe Sullivan – In an attempt to help Clark find Stiletto, Chloe created the site to get people talking about Stiletto and hopefully find information about where she can be found. She is the most techno savvy of the group and she is the only character who actually knew about the site (before she tells Clark about, of course). And she only pretended to stumble upon it because she might have been embarrassed to admit the great lengths she had gone to in order to lure Stiletto out.
(3) Bruno Manheim – In a similar vein, Bruno hired one of his techno thugs to create the site to also get more information about Stiletto and at the same time the RBB (remember thugs hate these vigilantes so why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone?)
(4) Unknown Bloggers – Random people but not because of a published article but because the thugs have obviously NOT kept their mouths shut about Stiletto so one can speculate that they blabbed to their buddies about it who in turn blabbed to THEIR buddies and so on and so forth until enough people knew about (hey, gossip spreads like wild fire, just watch GOSSIP GIRL on the CW) to make a site.
(5) City Editor – After Lois told him about Stiletto it piqued his interest and he went online to do some investigating on his own. He thought why not create a thread on a site about superheroes about this new superhottie to find out more information on her?
(6) Lana Lang – Unable to stay away from Clark and thus Metropolis she has been lurking around the city and by accident heard the rumor on the street (via those mouthy thugs) about Stiletto. Knowing that Clark is lonely and needing a superhero like herself (minus the Kryptonite infestation) she goes online (remember she’s like a supercomputer whiz like Chloe, overnight and all…) and creates that website to try to spread buzz about this soon-to-be *crosses fingers* supercouple. She’s such a sweet gal, that Lana.

And so on and so forth….So “whodunit?” Who knows! It certainly isn't significant enough to prove anything. And relies mostly on fanwanking to actually make some sense out of it.

Then we move on to a bit more credible, yet easily explainable topic. Lois comment (posted at the beginning) about Clark being able to drool over Stiletto with the rest of the world TOMORROW made it pretty clear that the intention Lois had was to see her work published the next day. Well after the Bluretto scene we get evidence that we are not only ALREADY in the next day (aka in TOMORROW) but we are there in the night. We know that it is the next day because after they get the message on the scanner and after Clark sees Stiletto (and realizes instantly that it’s actually Lois), Clark gives Lois a mini lecture about getting into trouble and biting off more than you can chew. To which Lois responds: “Stiletto kicked ass LAST NIGHT.”

Articles get published in the morning, right? And at this time the morning has already passed. So doesn't that mean that the Stiletto article must have already been published? No. You see that COULD have been the interpretation were it not for those pesky facts that keep on getting in the way of all this speculation.

During his mini-lecture to Lois, Clark states: "You’re going to do everything in your hands to make sure that Stiletto’s story DOESN’T GET PUBLISHED.”

If the story had already been published would Clark have bothered to tell Lois not to do it? Of course not! This comment makes it painfully clear that no, Lois's statement about Clark seeing that article tomorrow DID NOT COME TRUE. For whatever reason, but yes it was bad writing not to clarify this or explain this but it does NOT prove that an article was written.

And after Clark's speech, Lois realizes that it cannot be published and that's when she goes to Chloe’s place to search for Jimmy to get rid of the photos. Of course she doesn’t know at that point that she shouldn’t be worried because Jimmy has been intercepted by Bruno, who tries to beat out the location of Stiletto rather unsuccessfully from Jimmy. Bruno then sends out a thug after Chloe. All the while if a story HAD been published and that story was CONNECTED to Lois Lane, why in the world would Bruno and his thugs waste time trying to FORCE information out of Jimmy/Chloe? Why not go to the woman who has just shown this superhero to the world? The answer? The story was NEVER published.

At the very end, we see the whole Lane-Kent-Olsen action take place. The next day a story HAS been published . And what is the title?

“Mob Men Behind Bars” by Lois Lane

Is the story about Stiletto? No. Is there any reference about any story having been published PRIOR to this story about Stiletto? No.

The story wasn’t published at the very beginning, prior to the conversation with Lois and the editor and it wasn’t printed in the middle of the story, after Lois’s comment about tomorrow (she was simply wrong, she had the intention of getting it published but it obviously did not come to fruition), nor was it printed at the end, after the Bruno Manheim arrest. So again:


THE STORY ABOUT STILETTO WAS NEVER PUBLISHED.

In the end I wish that the writing had been BETTER and had been CLEARER. The audience SHOULD have heard more of the conversation with the editor, the Bluretto site SHOULD have been explained, and the comment about getting a story published tomorrow but it not happening SHOULD have been addressed. But what do you expect in a story whose writing was overall very sloppy and inconsistent? It had plotholes (Shelby is now a female apparently), events that made no sense (Lois breaking through glass and not getting injured—yeah, that can happen), and overall dealt with just a very silly, silly subject (Lois and her antics to get to the RBB). This wasn’t the work of a brilliant storyteller. It simple wasn’t and this writer, Caroline Dries, HAS failed at storytelling before. What she writes tends to be confusing and hard to follow. Thankfully, however, in this story she did provide SUFFICIENT evidence to support that the story was not published.

Now if you feel you can come up with a thorough counter argument to support YOUR SPECULATION, then I’m all for it. Post it. As long as it is detailed and explains all your points, I won’t’ have any problems taking your thoughts into consideration. But the way I see it, the evidence supports the story NOT being published.

[Vergon6]

Right. The story that was published wasn't about Stilletto, it was about Intergang related business. I'm glad too. It would have made Lois look bad if she didn't have that change of heart. Clark's words and the fallout from the whole Stilletto thing made her realize she made a huge mistake.

[Kal-ed]

Considering she didnt do nothing really serious, yes it was stupid and it almost got Clark killed, she didnt look happy, she admited her mistake herself, I dont know what people would have wanted her to suffer, maybe a few months in jail?? getting raped by Bruno Manheim?? seriously, people arguing she didnt pay for her mistake by all means, sugest what you would have considered fair.

Besides, yes she didnt directly pay but there were consecuences, negative ones, ones thanks to Clark she didnt directly have to pay but consecuences no the less, consecuences she owned up to and apologized.

You want to hear a story about someone not paying for their mistakes, Chloe betraying Clark in season 3, theres was absolutely no consecuences and before people argue that Lionel almost killed her lets not forget that that was not a consecuence of betraying Clark, that was caused by her childish intent of blackmailing Lionel.

So seriously I dont see how it can be argued Lois got out of this free, she looked really upset that Clark almost died, she apologized she owned up to her mistake, pretty much what I would have expected from any fictional character making a minor mistake like taking a fake heroes identity to draw a nother hero out.

[Supsfan]

(1) The site was meant as a teasing poke at the fans and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously and certainly not overanalyzed.


Lol you expect the fans of Smallville not to overanlyze stuff, never. I've seen everything on this show over analyzed, at times it is even comical.



You want to hear a story about someone not paying for their mistakes, Chloe betraying Clark in season 3, theres was absolutely no consecuences and before people argue that Lionel almost killed her lets not forget that that was not a consecuence of betraying Clark, that was caused by her childish intent of blackmailing Lionel.


I think you can make a list a mile long for all characters of actions that should have gotten punished or them see there consequences. In terms of stuff we see go unpunished such as murder or committing various crimes that would send you to jail that I have seen on this show, I think Lois getting a little over exuberant about writing an article and hunting down the RBB falls way down on the list. We see at the end Lois see the issue with her mistake and learn from it. Even if she did publish her article, how would it be any different then Clark in other Superman media writing stories about himself(I remember one episode of L&C where he even quoted himself).

[Kal-ed]

She didn't kill anyone. Sebastian was the influence of Braniac. How is that even debatable?
Harboring Braniac..i'd say what she has to do to cover for him is the consequence. Plus we're not done with that whole aspect yet.
Plus what she's doing is to protect her friends and the world. Lois' stunt was just to get recognition by landing the RBB interview.

actually, in Requiem I believe it was made pretty clear in her conversation with Ollie that Chloe was indeed herself, although she tried to convince ollie otherwise (she wanted to believe it wasnt) but the fact is she was herself, its never been said or even implied that until Abyss Chloe was anyone but herself, no ambigous smiles, no mystery music playint in the backround, if the PTB did have in mind that Chloe was being manipuleted by Brainiac, they sure as hell did a very poor job making that fact known to the general audience. And if you still doubt my word, what logical reason would Brainiac have to kill that guy, what was he expecting to gain from it?? That´s right, absolutely nothing and brainiac we know never does anything without a reason.

[traceylb]

So now you're arguing my point for me? Um...okay. Little refresher. You said: You were trying to pass off the phrase "next time" as being connected to the next time an article was published. You were wrong as I proved:

So yes! Of course the phrase is in reference to the banquet and not the article. That was my point and that was part of my evidence for why the article hadn't been published. There is no evidence to state that the article was published. The comments "next time" and "page 10?" have been taken out of context BY YOU.

For the record, it seems to me that most of the confusion is coming from a pretty shaky story. However, it seems that most of the evidence to support the story being published is either false, relies heavily on speculation, or is very insignificant to even take into consideration:

Evidence to SUPPORT the story being published:
(1) Lois’s comment about page 10
(2) The time frame (because of Lois telling Clark that he would see the comment published tomorrow)
(3) The Bluretto sites
But if you follow the story carefully and just realize that no story and no writing is perfect, all of these can be easily explained.

Let’s begin by going through the basic train of events of the episode, and comment on those three things as we go along.

Lois Lane is at the society banquet at night. Lois and Chloe get mugged. That same night Lois pulls out her boss from the society banquet to talk about her story. It is during this scene that Lois makes the comment about page 10. Here line is: “Page 10? Why don’t you just bury my Stiletto sighting with the classifieds?” Now I CAN see how this line could throw you off because the line could technically mean two different things:

(1) Lois is trying to pitcher her story and the editor says he can publish it, but on page 10. Lois responds by stating, “Page 10?” She’s incredulously because obviously she wants that story on page one so that the Red-Blue Blur can see it.
(2) Lois is responding to seeing her article published and on page 10.

The answer is the first one because the second option doesn’t make sense. The evidence in the story tells us that the story has not been published because quite frankly there hasn’t been any time for the story to be published. The scene is taking place that same night as the mugging. Evidence: (1) Lois is wearing the same dress, (2) her editor is making a comment about being pulled out of a banquet—the same press society banquet that earlier that night Lois was trying to get into, and (3) If you look really hard, you can see that the clock says it’s close to midnight. What type of newspaper publishes articles in the late night? None.

In addition, Clark arrives at the Daily Planet shortly after and Lois tells him, “Patience, Smallville. TOMORROW you can drool over her with the rest of the world.” It is clear that at this point the story HAS not yet published but that Lois has every intention to GET it published TOMORROW once she gets the photos for her editor.

The next time we see Lois she is attempting to get photos from Jimmy Olsen. The exact time or day isn’t clear at this point. Lois leaves Jimmy and says she has a date with RBB. Next we see Chloe and we get the scene about the Bluretto site.

The fact that a site like this one exists is one of the reasons why Lois has supposedly published her article. See, how else can a site like that exist unless an article was published and the world knows about it again? Well at this time the easiest and most obvious answer is one of two:

(1) The site was meant as a teasing poke at the fans and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously and certainly not overanalyzed.
(2) The site was a joke but it was also part of a plothole since the writer (Caroline Dries) obviously overlooked the fact that a site like this could not exists without an article being published.

Those are the two most obvious explanations and NEITHER serve as evidence to support that an article has been published. They are proof of a shaky script at the best. We were meant to believe that this site was real and that these bloggers did know about Stiletto (but not because of the article). Yet if you do need to make this site connected to the story then I can offer you 101 WHODUNIT scenarios about this site that do not relate to actual bloggers who read a published article on Stiletto.

WHO DONE IT? BLURETTO SITE

(1) Lois Lane – To further her attempts to bring out the RBB she created the site.
(2) Chloe Sullivan – In an attempt to help Clark find Stiletto, Chloe created the site to get people talking about Stiletto and hopefully find information about where she can be found. She is the most techno savvy of the group and she is the only character who actually knew about the site (before she tells Clark about, of course). And she only pretended to stumble upon it because she might have been embarrassed to admit the great lengths she had gone to in order to lure Stiletto out.
(3) Bruno Manheim – In a similar vein, Bruno hired one of his techno thugs to create the site to also get more information about Stiletto and at the same time the RBB (remember thugs hate these vigilantes so why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone?)
(4) Unknown Bloggers – Random people but not because of a published article but because the thugs have obviously NOT kept their mouths shut about Stiletto so one can speculate that they blabbed to their buddies about it who in turn blabbed to THEIR buddies and so on and so forth until enough people knew about (hey, gossip spreads like wild fire, just watch GOSSIP GIRL on the CW) to make a site.
(5) City Editor – After Lois told him about Stiletto it piqued his interest and he went online to do some investigating on his own. He thought why not create a thread on a site about superheroes about this new superhottie to find out more information on her?
(6) Lana Lang – Unable to stay away from Clark and thus Metropolis she has been lurking around the city and by accident heard the rumor on the street (via those mouthy thugs) about Stiletto. Knowing that Clark is lonely and needing a superhero like herself (minus the Kryptonite infestation) she goes online (remember she’s like a supercomputer whiz like Chloe, overnight and all…) and creates that website to try to spread buzz about this soon-to-be *crosses fingers* supercouple. She’s such a sweet gal, that Lana.

And so on and so forth….So “whodunit?” Who knows! It certainly isn't significant enough to prove anything. And relies mostly on fanwanking to actually make some sense out of it.

Then we move on to a bit more credible, yet easily explainable topic. Lois comment (posted at the beginning) about Clark being able to drool over Stiletto with the rest of the world TOMORROW made it pretty clear that the intention Lois had was to see her work published the next day. Well after the Bluretto scene we get evidence that we are not only ALREADY in the next day (aka in TOMORROW) but we are there in the night. We know that it is the next day because after they get the message on the scanner and after Clark sees Stiletto (and realizes instantly that it’s actually Lois), Clark gives Lois a mini lecture about getting into trouble and biting off more than you can chew. To which Lois responds: “Stiletto kicked ass LAST NIGHT.”

Articles get published in the morning, right? And at this time the morning has already passed. So doesn't that mean that the Stiletto article must have already been published? No. You see that COULD have been the interpretation were it not for those pesky facts that keep on getting in the way of all this speculation.

During his mini-lecture to Lois, Clark states: "You’re going to do everything in your hands to make sure that Stiletto’s story DOESN’T GET PUBLISHED.”

If the story had already been published would Clark have bothered to tell Lois not to do it? Of course not! This comment makes it painfully clear that no, Lois's statement about Clark seeing that article tomorrow DID NOT COME TRUE. For whatever reason, but yes it was bad writing not to clarify this or explain this but it does NOT prove that an article was written.

And after Clark's speech, Lois realizes that it cannot be published and that's when she goes to Chloe’s place to search for Jimmy to get rid of the photos. Of course she doesn’t know at that point that she shouldn’t be worried because Jimmy has been intercepted by Bruno, who tries to beat out the location of Stiletto rather unsuccessfully from Jimmy. Bruno then sends out a thug after Chloe. All the while if a story HAD been published and that story was CONNECTED to Lois Lane, why in the world would Bruno and his thugs waste time trying to FORCE information out of Jimmy/Chloe? Why not go to the woman who has just shown this superhero to the world? The answer? The story was NEVER published.

At the very end, we see the whole Lane-Kent-Olsen action take place. The next day a story HAS been published . And what is the title?

“Mob Men Behind Bars” by Lois Lane

Is the story about Stiletto? No. Is there any reference about any story having been published PRIOR to this story about Stiletto? No.

The story wasn’t published at the very beginning, prior to the conversation with Lois and the editor and it wasn’t printed in the middle of the story, after Lois’s comment about tomorrow (she was simply wrong, she had the intention of getting it published but it obviously did not come to fruition), nor was it printed at the end, after the Bruno Manheim arrest. So again:


THE STORY ABOUT STILETTO WAS NEVER PUBLISHED.

In the end I wish that the writing had been BETTER and had been CLEARER. The audience SHOULD have heard more of the conversation with the editor, the Bluretto site SHOULD have been explained, and the comment about getting a story published tomorrow but it not happening SHOULD have been addressed. But what do you expect in a story whose writing was overall very sloppy and inconsistent? It had plotholes (Shelby is now a female apparently), events that made no sense (Lois breaking through glass and not getting injured—yeah, that can happen), and overall dealt with just a very silly, silly subject (Lois and her antics to get to the RBB). This wasn’t the work of a brilliant storyteller. It simple wasn’t and this writer, Caroline Dries, HAS failed at storytelling before. What she writes tends to be confusing and hard to follow. Thankfully, however, in this story she did provide SUFFICIENT evidence to support that the story was not published.

Now if you feel you can come up with a thorough counter argument to support YOUR SPECULATION, then I’m all for it. Post it. As long as it is detailed and explains all your points, I won’t’ have any problems taking your thoughts into consideration. But the way I see it, the evidence supports the story NOT being published.


Fantastic post and ITA with everything you said on how Lois' story did not end up getting published on Stiletto and love your reasoning for the Bluretto website -that was just one I could not get my head around for the life of me! :lol: I did end up thinking it was just a poor nod to the fansites and the way they come up with shipper names as my understanding was the story had not been published and only a few hours had passed.

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[justme_007]

It seemed like there weren't alot of consequences for Lois fabricating a story and getting her 2 closest friends in danger. Sure Clark getting shot wasn't a benefit but at the end she gets a story out of it.

I was wondering the same thing. You know, it´s Lois Lane, so it´s iconic and whatever.

Poor of her, if these actions were done by Lana or Chloe. Then, it would be a silly plot and ect. Double standards-

[BadaBingBadaBoomsday]

Articles get published in the morning, right?

No, they get published the night before.

[xrayvision]

Right. The story that was published wasn't about Stilletto, it was about Intergang related business.

Well, pre-Intergang since what we saw is a precursor to Intergang. But yeah, you're right.

[superjude]

Well, as to the consequences for Lois' actions, I wonder what Tess would think. It is possible that we have yet to hear from her. Maybe we'll hear something about it in Doomsday, because isn't there supposed to be a fight between two ladies? Hmm.
I know we won't hear anything from Tess about Lois actions as Stiletto before Doomsday, because Lois is hardly mentioned when she is not in an episode.
I believe Lois has already dealt with the problem and now since she has learned a lesson can move forward and become a better reporter for it. But, I would like to know Tess' reaction.

[asha14]

Well, as to the consequences for Lois' actions, I wonder what Tess would think. It is possible that we have yet to hear from her. Maybe we'll hear something about it in Doomsday, because isn't there supposed to be a fight between two ladies? Hmm.
I know we won't hear anything from Tess about Lois actions as Stiletto before Doomsday, because Lois is hardly mentioned when she is not in an episode.
I believe Lois has already dealt with the problem and now since she has learned a lesson can move forward and become a better reporter for it. But, I would like to know Tess' reaction.Why would Tess know? only Jimmy, Clark and Chloe know and since there was no article Published about stiletto there is no reason for Tess to know.

[superjude]

Why would Tess know? only Jimmy, Clark and Chloe know and since there was no article Published about stiletto there is no reason for Tess to know.

I happen to agree here, I can't answer how she would know, but then, how did Bluretto come up on the internet?. I was really just thinking hypothetically and wondering what her reaction would be. Maybe this belongs in the Theory and speculation thread?
Personally though, I don't want Lois to suffer any more consequences, I just was wondering what Tess' opinion would be, if she heard.

[Ella]

No, they get published the night before.
So then the comment being used as proof for the article being published has even less water now. Because the article that Lois said she would publish tomorrow was to happen at night but obviously due to the events with Bruno that never happened.

[Tatiana]

I'd be worried if she wasn't upset. She should be.

Lois messed up, she realized it and she admitted it and learned.

Chloe messes up, she knows it and she does nothing about it.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----



There's nothing wrong with messing up (in fact that's why we love Lois), it's the way you handle it that matters. And Lois handled it perfectly.



Lois also admitted she messed up, she was pretty grown up to admit she had made a major mistake and tried to fix it, at least she used her made up hero to save Jimmy and Clark, even though he ended up saving her of course lol but she also recognized that

[davidbrenton]

She shouldn't have any consequences. She got caught up in the moment and got carried away with some fantasy scenario. She recognized she was wrong, she admitted, and she learned from it. She living her life and recognizing her mistakes as they happen. That is more than I can say for 90% of the cast.

--She made up a person. What should she get? Death? Everyone else (Exception = Clark/Jimmy) kills people with seemingly no consequence.

[Tompouce]

The most important to me is she admitted it with Clark's help, that is THE thing

[Bizarrolover]

I was wondering the same thing. You know, it´s Lois Lane, so it´s iconic and whatever.

Poor of her, if these actions were done by Lana or Chloe. Then, it would be a silly plot and ect. Double standards-

Are you comparing kidnapping a man, drugging hin for weeks and putting his hand on a bear trap; denying a dying woman proper health care; loosing a laptop with classified information about the JL and brainfrying a guy with making up a fake superhero and giving up the idea a few hours later? Come on, Lois messed up, but she didn't commit a crime. If Lois has to be punished (firing her, like someone suggested) what do you think Oliver should do with Chloe if he learns she lost secret info about his team of superheroes, shoot her?

[-Nora-]

I was wondering the same thing. You know, it´s Lois Lane, so it´s iconic and whatever.

Poor of her, if these actions were done by Lana or Chloe. Then, it would be a silly plot and ect. Double standards-

It's not 'iconic or whatever'. The difference is that Lois has enough class to own up to her mistakes and learn from them.

[Tompouce]

She has enough class for sure but she needs "a little help from her friends" to really admit it. And the friend here was CLARK. The most important to me in this episode

[Ella]

Are you comparing kidnapping a man, drugging hin for weeks and putting his hand on a bear trap; denying a dying woman proper health care; loosing a laptop with classified information about the JL and brainfrying a guy with making up a fake superhero and giving up the idea a few hours later? Come on, Lois messed up, but she didn't commit a crime. If Lois has to be punished (firing her, like someone suggested) what do you think Oliver should do with Chloe if he learns she lost secret info about his team of superheroes, shoot her?
:rotfl:

I'm sorry to laugh but you are SO right it's funny. People want to condemn Lois as though her mistake in this episode was ANYWHERE near the gravity of the mistake that other characters have no just committed once, but multiple times. :lol:

[celita]

Besides, I'm pretty sure that Clark Kent will write a lot about that guy called Superman in the future and he won't be burnt alive for that. As long we know Lois just pretended that was Stiletto and not herself whom saved Chloe, but Chloe was still saved, wasn't she? The fact she wanted to write happened, the only think she was doing was pretending that wasn't her the person whom saved Chloe. Reporters are known for protecting their sources, aren't they?

[Bizarrolover]

Besides, I'm pretty sure that Clark Kent will write a lot about that guy called Superman in the future and he won't be burnt alive for that. As long we know Lois just pretended that was Stiletto and not herself whom saved Chloe, but Chloe was still saved, wasn't she? The fact she wanted to write happened, the only think she was doing was pretending that wasn't her the person whom saved Chloe. Reporters are known for protecting their sources, aren't they?

Not only he will print stories about himself, he'll scoop the first front page article about Superman from Lois. At least that happened in the comics.

[Tompouce]

About Lois saving Chloe, there is something which disturbs me a lot : Chloe's reaction when Clark asked her where Lois was at the hospital. Chloe was not fair to Lois there. She answered like "you know how she is, she let me alone because there is a scoop". I was totally surprised. It is not at all the Chlo-Lo relationship we are used to. Weird, really.

[xrayvision]

Not only he will print stories about himself, he'll scoop the first front page article about Superman from Lois. At least that happened in the comics.

Even though Clark has a right to do this since it's his identity, I doubt this will happen. My concern is that Clark will never be shown getting a byline or getting enough of them to convincingly prove that he's worthy of being an ace reporter. Lois scooped him out of a story in Stiletto even though Clark was deeply involved and physically injured for it.

They have to seperate the 2 as reporters so each can develop their reputation. I'd rather have Clark suggest the name Superman to Lois in a scene where he remembers the question from the Pilot that Lana asked him and be shown to choose to become Superman and use that name. Then Lois could write the premiere article on Superman. But I want Clark to have his own articles/bylines & not ride on Lois' coattails.

There was never a version of Clark/Superman prior to Smallville where he develops his journalism career with Lois around him. In all other forms, Clark was always a reporter before he met Lois. As long as Lois doesn't stand in the way of his progression, it will be good. But right now, he's not getting any opportunities. The problem is, TPTB are always appealing to the shippers and never letting Clark have his own storyline to write his own bylines about. When Lois was gone, they stuck him with Lana, or stuck him to Chloe or Tess. This needs to stop. They need to have him get fired or make him quit. Then they could give Lois & Clark their own storylines and show why these 2 deserve the jobs & respect they eventually have. The classic Lois doesn't run around investigating stories with Clark all the time. She's usually out & about herself. Same with Clark. Of course they cross paths every now & then. This is how they need to be written.

[Bizarrolover]

Even though Clark has a right to do this since it's his identity, I doubt this will happen. My concern is that Clark will never be shown getting a byline or getting enough of them to convincingly prove that he's worthy of being an ace reporter. Lois scooped him out of a story in Stiletto even though Clark was deeply involved and physically injured for it.

They have to seperate the 2 as reporters so each can develop their reputation. I'd rather have Clark suggest the name Superman to Lois in a scene where he remembers the question from the Pilot that Lana asked him and be shown to choose to become Superman and use that name. Then Lois could write the premiere article on Superman. But I want Clark to have his own articles/bylines & not ride on Lois' coattails.

There was never a version of Clark/Superman prior to Smallville where he develops his journalism career with Lois around him. In all other forms, Clark was always a reporter before he met Lois. As long as Lois doesn't stand in the way of his progression, it will be good. But right now, he's not getting any opportunities. The problem is, TPTB are always appealing to the shippers and never letting Clark have his own storyline to write his own bylines about. When Lois was gone, they stuck him with Lana, or stuck him to Chloe or Tess. This needs to stop. They need to have him get fired or make him quit. Then they could give Lois & Clark their own storylines and show why these 2 deserve the jobs & respect they eventually have. The classic Lois doesn't run around investigating stories with Clark all the time. She's usually out & about herself. Same with Clark. Of course they cross paths every now & then. This is how they need to be written.

I understand what you mean, but I think it's only a matter of time until we see Clark Kent scooping a story from Lois. I saw him very determined and proactive in this episode, saying 'I'll find xxxxx (I can't remember the name of the Mob lawyer), so I think that in the next season we'll see Clark more confident about his work (Lois said that he was doing way better than anyone expected) and scooping stories from her. In the comics they are very competitive about work and I'm dying to see that on Smallville. I guess it depends on the writers. This season has been about great changes for Clark, getting out of the farm, finding a job so having him getting the byline over her would have been too much, imo. though it would have been a nice to see him winning this one.

[xrayvision]

I hope you're right. I want Lois to get the Superman story because she will work hard for it, though I would love Clark or maybe Jonathan's spirit to come up with the name. Especially Jonathan's spirit since he sacrificed the most for Clark and always knew his son was capable of being the greatest hero & most mild mannered citizen, as he said in his own words.

I just don't want him to only be paid compliments like Lois paid him in this episode because frankly I have yet to see why he's doing better than anyone expected as far as his career goes. I don't know if he wrote an article based on his role in Bulletproof. That was a perfect opportunity to have one. I loved how he threw himself into that role. The Clark plot in that episode (minus the Lana kiss at the very end) is exemplary of how I want Clark to be written.

Clark & Lois don't even have to always outscoop each other. At times they could. Other times, they could show the 2 working on totally seperate things. I'd go for the latter since each will have their own plot & will give TPTB a reason for having Lois in 22 episodes. Heck they should have started doing this with her since season 7.

[Atomic girl]

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