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Chlollie
04-25-2009, 02:12 AM
Was this the best Lois Centric episode of the series so far.


Recruit
Clark is approached by Met U for recruitment and meets Geoff, a former Smallville resident. It soon becomes apparent that he is using his powers to paralyze anybody who gets in his way...including Lois.

Lucy
Lucy Lane, Lois' younger sister, comes to Smallville but Clark catches her stealing money from the Talon to pay off a European crime syndicate. Lex offers to help but everything is not what it seems. Meanwhile, a thief breaks into Lana's apartment and steals the crystal, and Jason suspects Lionel.

Aqua
At a party at Crater Lake, Lois is saved from drowning by Arthur "A.C." Curry. Arthur has incredible swimming abilities, but also a secret agenda aimed at...Lex. Meanwhile, Professor Fine discussed Lex's weapons-manufucturing operations with Clark.

Exposed
Jonathan's oldest friend, Senator Jack Jennings, comes to Smallville looking for support in his re-election campaign, but is framed for the murder of his mistress, requiring Lois to go undercover as a stripper.

Arrow
The mysterious Green Arrow steals a necklace from Martha, and both Lois and Clark resolve to find out who the vigilante is. While Clark determines Green Arrow's true identity, Lex continues his investigation of the mysterious black box while Lionel warns Lana against him.

Crimson
Clark is once again exposed to red kryptonite, and his "other self" goes on a rampage of sorts on Valentine's Day, kissing the women he's most attracted to and expressing his uninhibited feelings for the various relationships around him.

Combat
Clark and Chloe find an escaped Zoner named Titan who is the star of a secret fight club that puts its death battles on the internet. Lois can tell that there is a story and goes to investigate, where she is put in the ring to fight. Clark goes in as a super-powered fighter to take on Titan but ends up against a different opponent instead.

Prototype
Lex tries to turn a soldier that supposedly died in Afghanistan into a "super-soldier." A senator threatens to tell the world about Lex's labs, prompting Lex to send the "soldier" to kill the senator. Lois sees the attack and becomes the soldier's next victim.

Stiletto

ChlarkerFan
04-25-2009, 02:20 AM
What other Lois centric episodes have there been?

Chlollie
04-25-2009, 02:21 AM
What other Lois centric episodes have there been?

Just put up a poll.

costas22
04-25-2009, 02:24 AM
Crimson. Not many good ones early on.

EternalTwilight
04-25-2009, 02:28 AM
I'd go with Stiletto. She's grown a lot as a woman and as a professional. She's not as rough around the edges as she once was. I enjoyed watching her make mistakes and have the maturity to take responsibility for them. Her career is blossoming, as is her relationship with Clark.

Lucy was a another good one because we got some background info on her and her family.

It's hard to choose just one, though.

-Nora-
04-25-2009, 02:31 AM
I'll go with Lucy, too, because we learned a lot about Lois' background.

ChlarkerFan
04-25-2009, 02:34 AM
Uh...I hardly remember any of those...but I guess I'll go with Lucy. They should bring that character back. I love eps about family members! ;)

xrayvision
04-25-2009, 02:37 AM
I don't consider Arrow (Green Arrow), Crimson (red-k & Clexana) & Combat (the fight club) as being Lois centric episodes, though she had a decent role in each.

I'd say the best Lois-centric episode was Stiletto in terms of Lois' development & the range of ED's acting. Prototype was also pretty good. And Lois' story in Recruit was OK, though it's Clark's story in that episode that keeps me from liking it.

costas22
04-25-2009, 02:43 AM
By the way,i know she wasn't in it much, but i think that Hex was a good Lois centric episode. Before biting my head off think about this. Have you ever seen an episode develop a character so much without the character actually being there? In that episode alone we found out how advanced Lois' career at the planet was and we also found out how she had impacted Clark.

EternalTwilight
04-25-2009, 02:45 AM
By the way,i know she wasn't in it much, but i think that Hex was a good Lois centric episode. Before biting my head off think about this. Have you ever seen an episode develop a character so much without the character actually being there? In that episode alone we found out how advanced Lois' career at the planet was and we also found out how she had impacted Clark.

Good point! It was a great behind the scenes look at Lois' life.

Krypto_marcus
04-25-2009, 02:48 AM
No. The Stiletto thing dragged it down, I loved the Clois scenes but Lois in Stiletto mode... no thanks. Unfortunately, Lois seems to be cursed with silly storylines. I'm afraid to admit that, in this season, my favorite episodes are the ones without her:( Prey, Abyss, Turbulence & Eternal (except for the Lana arc of course).

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
04-25-2009, 03:20 AM
I can't really vote because my choices weren't listed.

My favorite Lois eppys were Bloodline, Gemini, Siren, Hex, Infamous, Committed, Identity.

If I have to vote, I'll go with Crimson.

Jaderoyale
04-25-2009, 03:23 AM
My favourite Lois centric episode isn't on the list. It would be Bloodline for me. I would say Identity as well, but that was really a Clark/RBB/Jimmy centric episode.

Out of the choices i'm going with Lucy :)


By the way,i know she wasn't in it much, but i think that Hex was a good Lois centric episode. Before biting my head off think about this. Have you ever seen an episode develop a character so much without the character actually being there? In that episode alone we found out how advanced Lois' career at the planet was and we also found out how she had impacted Clark.

Thats a really good point.

xrayvision
04-25-2009, 03:29 AM
In that episode alone we found out how advanced Lois' career at the planet was and we also found out how she had impacted Clark.

This is the one thing I don't agree with. So far as a fan of Clark above any other character on the show, I just have a bad feeling that with Lois working with Clark, Clark will never be able to land his own story/byline. The greatest progress we ever saw in Clark's career was in Bulletproof when he did his own investigating & went undercover as Joe Fordman.

In the comics, Clark was already an established reporter who was good enough to be on Perry White's team when he joined the Daily Planet. Here, he's working with Lois, who is very hungry for the big scoop, before he makes his name and I just don't see the opportunity coming up for him. Even when Clark has to save Lois when she gets herself in trouble, I would like to see Clark be able to write his own story despite such events.

Clark has sacrificed so much for so many people. I like Lois as a character very much. But I don't want to resent Lois for holding Clark back in his career as I resented Lana when her very stupid decision to get together with Lex resulted in the poor writing of season 6 where Clark didn't return to college, didn't start a career and just was there on standby to save Lana when she was in danger. I can see a similar version of that happening again with Lois---by Clark ditching any stories he would be working on to save Lois, who would then write the byline herself. This would really piss me off, and Lois shouldn't be written as a character who holds Clark back in any aspect. That's why I have liked her so much compared to Lana.

For this very reason, I want TPTB to have Clark get fired from the Daily Planet next season---either as a result of him dying & being absent for 3 months after his battle with Doomsday, after being affected by red-k and doing/saying things his editor doesn't like, or as a result of Tess or someone else with bad intentions firing him because he won't go along with what they want. I think the Doomsday death thing would be the best reason though. After getting fired, I want Clark to get hired by the Metropolis Journal--the newspaper that Carrie Castle (from Drone) worked for---working for Perry White and have Perry be his mentor & editor and Clark to write stories that nobody else would write based on his abilities and being involved in the action. I would love it if Perry & Clark return to the Planet together after having a great deal of success together at the Journal.

This doesn't mean that he can't have scenes with Lois. They could cross paths every now & then while working on a story. And I think the absence of seeing each other every day will make their hearts grow fonder.

Right now, they have showed Clark as making the news. We have seen Clark as writing the news in that portion of Hex where he was hexed. They have yet to show Clark Kent as not only making the news but writing it as well. This is why I would like for Clark to develop his journalism career away from Lois just like Lois developed hers away from Clark.

Not developing Clark's career is a big concern of mine & I posted a thread in the Speculation forum because I think there is a lack of caring about it after seeing very few other than myself bring this up:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122583

costas22
04-25-2009, 03:35 AM
xrayvision i agree with your post. Clark making it at the Daily Planet should be a journey he does on his own. And ever since Season 3, i hoped that Perry would give him his big break since he owed him one. But when i talked about impact before, i meant on a personal level and his feelings that came to the surface. But on the bright side, it was good to see Lois admit that Clark has been exceeding all expectations. It could be the start to CK making a name on his own.

xrayvision
04-25-2009, 03:43 AM
Oh, OK. Yeah, I agree that Lois' rules did allow his feelings to come to the surface.

I just hope they don't fail on developing CK as a reporter. They need to show it happening onscreen. I won't buy it if he gets compliments for writing a story we didn't see him doing any investigation on.

I really don't know how they will pull this off. Typically in the comics, Clark is a journalist before he shows up as a publicized superhero (with the publicizing being done by Lois). Here the 2 elements of Clark are happening concurrently. If Lois will write about all things RBB & if the RBB is involved in stopping Intergang, then how will CK get any bylines on Intergang & exposing them if Lois gets all the RBB bylines? They will need to have him keep things to himself. As a matter of fact they have to do this, because if they just have the RBB feed info to Lois, then she would be a reporter who wouldn't do any investigating & that would hurt Lois' character.

This is why I think a rivalry between them across the Daily Planet (Lois) & the Metropolis Journal (Clark) would be very healthy in all aspects of the Clark-Lois development & interaction. It would prevent both from getting stale and would promote the development of each character.

Just like Lois told Clark in Instinct when Clark said she could move back in--"It didn't work the first time" I think Clark should say the same thing about working with Lois before he makes a name for himself.

costas22
04-25-2009, 03:49 AM
Oh, OK. Yeah, I agree that Lois' rules did allow his feelings to come to the surface.

I just hope they don't fail on developing CK as a reporter. They need to show it happening onscreen. I won't buy it if he gets compliments for writing a story we didn't see him doing any investigation on.

I really don't know how they will pull this off. Typically in the comics, Clark is a journalist before he shows up as a publicized superhero (with the publicizing being done by Lois). Here the 2 elements of Clark are happening concurrently. If Lois will write about all things RBB & if the RBB is involved in stopping Intergang, then how will CK get any bylines on Intergang & exposing them if Lois gets all the RBB bylines? They will need to have him keep things to himself. As a matter of fact they have to do this, because if they just have the RBB feed info to Lois, then she would be a reporter who wouldn't do any investigating & that would hurt Lois' character.

This is why I think a rivalry between them across the Daily Planet (Lois) & the Metropolis Journal (Clark) would be very healthy in all aspects of the Clark-Lois development & interaction. It would prevent both from getting stale and would promote the development of each character.

Actually, him working at another newspaper might not be such a bad idea. It would give him that chance to shine on his own. Taking him out of journalism completely is a risky move. There will be a general feeling that development has taken steps back. If they ever had the chance to build a new set for another newspaper's basement, Clark could work there, he would do his own research and he could converse and banter with Lois at the Ace of Clubs frequently.

xrayvision
04-25-2009, 03:57 AM
Actually, him working at another newspaper might not be such a bad idea. It would give him that chance to shine on his own. Taking him out of journalism completely is a risky move. There will be a general feeling that development has taken steps back. If they ever had the chance to build a new set for another newspaper's basement, Clark could work there, he would do his own research and he could converse and banter with Lois at the Ace of Clubs frequently.

Absolutely. It doesn't have to be a big set. It would also allow them to hang out more & be shown doing things that aren't work related in most of their scenes together.

I even suggested Clark working for a startup newspaper of Perry White. Perhaps one that is online-only & gets bought by the future owner(s) of the Daily Planet after having tremendous success.

When I get back to working on my fanfic season 7, which I started almost 2 years ago, one thing I have intended for a while now to include why Lois is such an asset to the Inquisitor (since she's still working there in my fanfic season 7), by having her give it a reputable reputation. I would like TPTB to do the same thing with Clark since the ship has already sailed for Lois now that she has already made her name.

costas22
04-25-2009, 04:04 AM
Absolutely. It doesn't have to be a big set. It would also allow them to hang out more & be shown doing things that aren't work related in most of their scenes together.

I even suggested Clark working for a startup newspaper of Perry White. Perhaps one that is online-only & gets bought by the future owner(s) of the Daily Planet after having tremendous success.

When I get back to working on my fanfic season 7, which I started almost 2 years ago, one thing I have intended for a while now to include why Lois is such an asset to the Inquisitor (since she's still working there in my fanfic season 7), by having her give it a reputable reputation. I would like TPTB to do the same thing with Clark since the ship has already sailed for Lois now that she has already made her name.

The online paper idea is an interesting one. It would save money from any new sets required and it would show that Clark doesn this because he really loves it and not because he does it for a living. The problem though is that they have made it clear that Clark has to work at the DP to be close to the action. So moving to another less known paper would contradict that. Good ideas though. Try sending those to TPTB. You never know. They might finally force them to think out of the box for once. Tell them to keep Cassidy Freeman while you are at it :lol:!

xrayvision
04-25-2009, 04:15 AM
Well, the Metropolis Journal is less famous than the DP, but it is respected and Clark would obviously be close to the action as long as he uses his abilities (super hearing), patrols the city and listens to the police band. It would be wise for them to show that the quality & integrity of a reporter makes the newspaper & not the other way around.

hero`s passion
04-25-2009, 04:19 AM
Stiletto all the way, funny epi)))))))))))

marcella
04-25-2009, 07:19 AM
Stiletto is my favorite

Mickey_Bickey
04-25-2009, 09:10 AM
I like them all, but the 2 that really stand out for me are Stiletto and Lucy.

I still LOVE the ending in Lucy where the music is playing and the stars collide! Magic!

Stiletto too though, because it progressed Clark and Lois and introduced the iconic triangle!!

rebecavaldez
04-25-2009, 09:30 AM
Prototype?
Which one is that?

Wicked Lois
04-25-2009, 09:34 AM
I like lucy better

LoveHurts38
04-25-2009, 09:48 AM
My vote for Stiletto a lot of iconic moments that involved Jimmy.

SGuthrie27
04-25-2009, 10:23 AM
This was far and beyond the best Lois episode we've seen to date.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

wingster55
04-25-2009, 10:28 AM
Yea i'd say Stiletto.

Chlollie
04-25-2009, 10:36 AM
Prototype?
Which one is that?

Lex tries to turn a soldier that supposedly died in Afghanistan into a "super-soldier." A senator threatens to tell the world about Lex's labs, prompting Lex to send the "soldier" to kill the senator. Lois sees the attack and becomes the soldier's next victim.

zHeN_zHeN
04-25-2009, 11:23 AM
It's not on the list, but Committed is still my favorite Lois episode. She got me at "...yes." :)

kal-el_Girl
04-25-2009, 11:51 AM
I liked stiletto but crimson is awesome who can forget the line, by lois "lana's your past, I'm your future" awesome...

Brory
04-25-2009, 12:12 PM
What about Gemini?

Smallville Vamp
04-25-2009, 01:09 PM
Stiletto :)

Firebunny
04-25-2009, 01:26 PM
I voted for Stiletto. I was surprised by how much I liked the episode. It wasn't the greatest episode ever, but it was fun.

I wouldn't consider either Crimson or Combat Lois-centric episodes. Crimson is really a Clexana ep and Lois could be taken out of Combat completely and the only effect it would have on the episode is that it'd be short on time. Otherwise she had no impact on the plot or the decisions the other characters made.

Violet-Shadow
04-25-2009, 01:31 PM
I love every Lois-centric episode but I just loved this one too much not to vote for it.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 03:24 PM
Lucy is my top favorite Lois Lane episode in Smallville :)

lm1212
04-25-2009, 04:33 PM
Committed isn't considered for this poll? :(
Well behind Committed I'd say Stiletto since the second half out-shined any of the other choices.

The Dark Knight74
04-25-2009, 09:13 PM
Crimson.

terri7015
04-25-2009, 09:17 PM
I voted Stiletto because it revolved around Lois and her reporting .

cloisthelegendbegins
04-25-2009, 09:33 PM
I thought Stiletto progressed her journalistic career as well as her character development so I voted Stiletto, even though it ran very close with Lucy for me. I agree with some of the others that many of the episodes on that list couldn't be considered Lois-centric - sorry Chlollie :)

When it comes to the issue of Clark working at the Daily Planet, I disagree. When someone is good at something, they're good - regardless of the healthy competition and sometimes doing better because of it. I dislike the intimation that Clark isn't capable of taking Lois on and in other incarnations of the Superman story he may have had experience but he most certainly wasn't held in the same regard as Lois Lane - Superman: The Movie and LnC being but two examples of that. Yet he managed to work hard and gain the same recognition - out-scooping Lois several times and sharing plenty of bylines with her. ALREADY Smallville's Lois has commented that he's doing better than anyone expected. So I have the greatest confidence in Clark's ability to shine.

Supsfan
04-25-2009, 10:50 PM
I probably would have had a different list of episodes that are Lois centric.

Gemini defintantly should have been on the list(just look at screentimes) but Combat, Aqua, Arrow should all not be on it. You can probably add Crimson to the list that shouldn't be there and Committed, Infamous and Krypto to the list that should be there

I personally went with Lucy. I thought it was a good character building episode for Lois as well as relationship building episode for Clois in general.

BackToTheLies
04-26-2009, 02:14 AM
Even though it has nothing to do with Lois Lane's character in a big way, my favourite out of these is probably Crimson.

Call it an Erica Durance-centric episode because her sex appeal in Crimson was off the chart.

Bizarrolover
04-26-2009, 08:02 AM
I probably would have had a different list of episodes that are Lois centric.

Gemini defintantly should have been on the list(just look at screentimes) but Combat, Aqua, Arrow should all not be on it. You can probably add Crimson to the list that shouldn't be there and Committed, Infamous and Krypto to the list that should be there

I personally went with Lucy. I thought it was a good character building episode for Lois as well as relationship building episode for Clois in general.


I agree, just because Lois had a lot of screen time in most of those episodes it didn't mean they were Lois centric. Unfortunately, in most of the episodes listed, she was more a plot device that served the main plot. I think one of her best episodes was Lucy, where we got to learn more about her background and I really liked Prototype, because it showed us how loyal she is to those she loves and how far she would go to find the truth.

Tompouce
04-26-2009, 09:44 AM
I'll go with Lucy, too, because we learned a lot about Lois' background.
I agree. Thanks to this episode, we know why she can be so rude and why she hides her feelings this way. It helps to understand better her character. Even if it is not one of my favourite epi, it was interesting regarding Lois.
Seeing the list, I would say my favourite was of course, Crimson and not for Lois only:p;)

xrayvision
04-26-2009, 10:09 AM
After re-considering, I still say this episode had the best Lois scenes (the last 3 scenes with her were off the charts). But my favorite Lois episode was Bloodline. ED did a great job at playing Lois & Faora. I just wished the episode was longer so we could have had some more Zone scenes.

liana
04-26-2009, 12:51 PM
I probably would have had a different list of episodes that are Lois centric.

Gemini defintantly should have been on the list(just look at screentimes) but Combat, Aqua, Arrow should all not be on it. You can probably add Crimson to the list that shouldn't be there and Committed, Infamous and Krypto to the list that should be there

I personally went with Lucy. I thought it was a good character building episode for Lois as well as relationship building episode for Clois in general.

I agree. For me, the only real Lois centric episode, so far, is Lucy. But close enough to it are Prototype, Gemini, Siren, Committed and Stilletto. The others episode on this poll are just episodes where we had no real development for Lois's character or gave us no real insight about her, so they were not Lois' centric.

Crimsom was all about Clark's repressed feelings in general: the way he felt about his mother's friendship with Lionel, his attraction to Lois, his love for Lana and his hate for Lex. Yes, Lois had a lot of screentime, but the episode was totally Clark-centric.

In Exposed there was no development for Lois either. She was only there. The episode had a dual plot: Jonathan and his political career, and Chloe's first article. Lois was only there.

In both Acqua and Arrow Lois was nothing more than love interest. Recruit was about Clark, and him making the right choice about leaving football behind him because of his powers. This was the whole plot, Lois was just caught in the middle. Combat was also a Clark-centric episode where he dealt with his frustration about the lexana wedding, once again, Lois was caught in the middle.

In all of the episodes that I consider as Lois centric, for me the best is Lucy, because it provided us with a real look at the character. We saw her insecurities, her weakness, her love, her frustrations... It was, by far, the best one, IMO.

Alicia Chipy
04-26-2009, 06:36 PM
Tie between hex &stiletto.

lrog127
04-28-2009, 11:01 AM
what about Gemini, although not completely Lois centric, she had a pretty big role.
At least as big as Arrow or Prototype...Jmo

Sorry, guess it was already mentioned.

xrayvision
04-28-2009, 01:31 PM
When it comes to the issue of Clark working at the Daily Planet, I disagree. When someone is good at something, they're good - regardless of the healthy competition and sometimes doing better because of it. I dislike the intimation that Clark isn't capable of taking Lois on and in other incarnations of the Superman story he may have had experience but he most certainly wasn't held in the same regard as Lois Lane - Superman: The Movie and LnC being but two examples of that. Yet he managed to work hard and gain the same recognition - out-scooping Lois several times and sharing plenty of bylines with her. ALREADY Smallville's Lois has commented that he's doing better than anyone expected. So I have the greatest confidence in Clark's ability to shine.

Sorry, but my thoughts are I'll believe it when I see it. If Clark Kent isn't worth being portrayed as a great reporter, then the powers that be have their priorities twisted. He needs to get out of the Daily Planet and develop on his own just like Lois did in seasons 6 & 7. Clark was unfortunate because he was a mandatory piece of the Al/Miles-mandated Clexana plots of seasons 6 & 7. Those seasons could have developed him but wasted all his screentime. They have to do this now if they expect this Clark Kent to be anything like the icon of the comics.

I will never buy compliments of Clark made by Lois or anyone else for things that we didn't see him do. I don't even think TPTB know what Clark's job description is. I posted a thread about this in a previous episode's forum & the answers were all over the place. One day he's a copyboy (Bloodline, Identity), another day he's a reporter (Prey), and in Stiletto he's an intern. The showrunners are flaking big time on Clark in this aspect. Clark is whatever they need him to be in an episode, and that's just garbage writing IMO. We see him serious about his job at times (Prey, Bulletproof) & lackadaisical about it other times (Stiletto, Identity---the perfect time for him to have written about the RBB, and many other episodes). What's so frustrating is that even when he was serious in Bulletproof, we didn't see an article of his printed in the paper.

I'm very disappointed about this. And I'm pretty sure the series will end without any development on this.

Sarevokcz
04-29-2009, 06:45 AM
What's so frustrating is that even when he was serious in Bulletproof, we didn't see an article of his printed in the paper.


yea, instead we saw Clana kiss, which only lead to horrible arc with horrible ending.

sorry, had to point that out :)


i would say Stiletto was best Lois centric epi, even tho Lucy was great, too, both had great endings, but Stiletto gave us insight in her journalism careeer, something all Lois fans wanted to see for quite some time, she had great moments with all other 3 regulars, especially with Clark.

davidbrenton
04-29-2009, 11:21 AM
I voted Crimson.

smallville_is_awesome
04-30-2009, 08:10 AM
Stiletto hands down!!

AntMagister
04-30-2009, 09:57 AM
I voted for Stiletto too. Had too much fun!

rebecavaldez
05-09-2009, 07:34 AM
Every episode keeps getting better.

ClarkJKentsWoman
05-27-2009, 10:43 AM
Prototype or Stiletto