View Full Version : Lois had to see Clark superspeed
galatians221
04-24-2009, 09:30 PM
Clark didn't run until after the bullet was fired. Lois was looking right at him. What's up with that? They slowed the bullet down to let us know that he was superspeeding and Lois is looking right at him. This doesn't seem to be too well thought out imho.
LoisLaneJournalist
04-24-2009, 09:38 PM
I think the scene just was slow mode!!
when Clark jump i Didnt see the blury effect
they gave him when he super speed =0
galatians221
04-24-2009, 09:50 PM
I think the scene just was slow mode!!
when Clark jump i Didnt see the blury effect
they gave him when he super speed =0
I watched it again and Clark is lying on the floor when the gun is shot. I mean he's faster than a speeding bullet but he's not supposed to show it in front of Lois. At least not yet.
LoisLaneJournalist
04-24-2009, 09:52 PM
I watched it again and Clark is lying on the floor when the gun is shot. I mean he's faster than a speeding bullet but he's not supposed to show it in front of Lois. At least not yet. <!-- / message -->
Well i dont think he superSpeed!! :S
and if he did i dont think Lois see that!! or put attencion to it
I Mean she was just worried for Clark if he was fiNe
drvr8
04-24-2009, 09:59 PM
When Clark looked at Bruno, Bruno was in profile. Bruno fires the gun straight ahead and Clark is off to the side and jumped from Lois' left side across her to the right side. So she would not have seen him directly in front of her because he was not in her direct line of sight.
Heck, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Besides, after seeing someone jump in front of you and take a bullet for you that would have hit you in the heart or chest, I think the last thing on your mind would be how they managed to get there in front of you but rather on the fact that someone was willing to die in order to save you.
Lois was overwhelmed with emotion and was crying over Clark, there's no way she was going to conduct a Spanish Inquisition over how he got in front of that bullet.
galatians221
04-24-2009, 10:32 PM
When Clark looked at Bruno, Bruno was in profile. Bruno fires the gun straight ahead and Clark is off to the side and jumped from Lois' left side across her to the right side. So she would not have seen him directly in front of her because he was not in her direct line of sight.
Heck, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Besides, after seeing someone jump in front of you and take a bullet for you that would have hit you in the heart or chest, I think the last thing on your mind would be how they managed to get there in front of you but rather on the fact that someone was willing to die in order to save you.
Lois was overwhelmed with emotion and was crying over Clark, there's no way she was going to conduct a Spanish Inquisition over how he got in front of that bullet.
Give the writers the comfy chair.
Viper2369
04-24-2009, 10:32 PM
Clark didn't run until after the bullet was fired. Lois was looking right at him. What's up with that? They slowed the bullet down to let us know that he was superspeeding and Lois is looking right at him. This doesn't seem to be too well thought out imho.
Is this discussion really taking place? He couldn't superspeed because of the Kryptonite, the whole reason Lois had to come to the rescue.
galatians221
04-24-2009, 10:55 PM
Is this discussion really taking place? He couldn't superspeed because of the Kryptonite, the whole reason Lois had to come to the rescue.
Please watch it again; when the gun is fired, Clark is not near Lois. No human could have intercepted a bullet that had been fired from across the room if he wasn't in place already. The producers had the bullet fired to soon if they didn't want to show CK superspeeding.
Mrs. Superman
04-24-2009, 11:14 PM
Clark noticed that Bruno had pointed the gun and was ABOUT to shoot which is when he starts to get up. I just watched it again and its clear that by the time the gun is fired Clark was already on his feet and moving towards Lois. The only thing that was off was the leap...it was a big one.
Play by play:
Bruno raises the gun and says Stilletto has no idea what she stepped into
Clark realizes he's about to fire the gun and starts to get up. Lois!
The gun is shot as Clark is moving towards Lois, and when it goes off thats when he takes his giant leap.
So yea, the leap was big, but he was already on his way to her before the gun fired. I dont believe he supersped unless of course its impossible for a powerless someone to leap in front of another person before the bullet hits... but then what do we make of the secret service or bodyguards?
xrayvision
04-25-2009, 12:19 AM
I think the scene was shot somewhat poorly. They should have delayed the gunshot by a few seconds. Because if Clark is in normal mode (which is what the scene is supposed to imply), we shouldn't hear the gunshot before Clark dives to take the bullet. The bullet's speed is much faster than its sound and would have hit Lois by the time you heard the bang of the gun. I think the director messed up that scene.
Clark did NOT superspeed. It was slow motion. But I agree that the scene should have been filmed a bit more clearly as far as this went.
zHeN_zHeN
04-25-2009, 12:42 AM
He didn't superspeed, not with all the kryptonite surrounding him, he simply jumped in front of the bullet.
hero`s passion
04-25-2009, 05:22 AM
it was just slow mode to make the moment more impressive and heroic. not superspeed:)
erikamichelle614
04-25-2009, 07:44 AM
yea, he didn't SS and he couldn't, because of all the K. It was just slowed down like every other show in which someone jumps in front of a bullet.
galatians221
04-25-2009, 08:02 AM
I think the scene was shot somewhat poorly. They should have delayed the gunshot by a few seconds. Because if Clark is in normal mode (which is what the scene is supposed to imply), we shouldn't hear the gunshot before Clark dives to take the bullet. The bullet's speed is much faster than its sound and would have hit Lois by the time you heard the bang of the gun. I think the director messed up that scene.
That's my point. What was shown is humanly impossible. If a person was standing in front of Lois and the bullet was going towards her head and he wasn't shielding her head he would not be able to react in time to catch the bullet or move his body even six inches to intecept the bullet. You're right, it was a poorly executed scene.
drvr8
04-25-2009, 02:05 PM
I think the scene was shot somewhat poorly. They should have delayed the gunshot by a few seconds. Because if Clark is in normal mode (which is what the scene is supposed to imply), we shouldn't hear the gunshot before Clark dives to take the bullet. The bullet's speed is much faster than its sound and would have hit Lois by the time you heard the bang of the gun. I think the director messed up that scene.
To be fair, it's usually the producer's who do the final audio mix of episodes and the directors are not involved with that in television. All the FX like gunshots, sirens, etc are dropped in at the final mix, in order to make sure all the sound levels are at the network's specs. In all likelihood, Kevin Fair never even picked that out and it was the SFX editor who placed the shot. The producers didn't catch that, and ultimately they have the final say on the mix.
dreamscometrue
04-25-2009, 03:19 PM
He didn't superspeed they slowed the scene down
galatians221
04-25-2009, 07:00 PM
He didn't superspeed they slowed the scene down
It was just poor sequencing. The timing was off. Just like calling Shelby a girl. Someone was asleep at the wheel.
dreamscometrue
04-25-2009, 11:37 PM
hahahaha funny but so totally right.
BackToTheLies
04-26-2009, 02:33 AM
The answer is that it's television.
But impressive for them to be pulling out bullet-time special effects. they've really gone all out on the effects budget this season.
Did anyone else think that initially when the bullet scene slowed down that it looked like Clark has dived too late and the bullet was headed for Lois? Then it looked like it was actually gonna be a headshot on Clark and then finally it happened.
badraven
04-26-2009, 08:13 AM
I'm feel sure that the scene is Clark moving at normal speed jumping in front of the bullet in order to try and save Lois' life. They do slow-mo the shot but I don't think that was trying to infer that Clark was using superspeed. When I watched the scene I did think they had Clark move awful fast or that bullet moved pretty slow but it is a TV show based on a comic book so I didn't think too much of it. I do admit that the sequence is a little confusing the way it was shot but no big deal IMO.
galatians221
04-26-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm feel sure that the scene is Clark moving at normal speed jumping in front of the bullet in order to try and save Lois' life. They do slow-mo the shot but I don't think that was trying to infer that Clark was using superspeed. When I watched the scene I did think they had Clark move awful fast or that bullet moved pretty slow but it is a TV show based on a comic book so I didn't think too much of it. I do admit that the sequence is a little confusing the way it was shot but no big deal IMO.
The whole thing seemed poorly done. Lois' mid air kick driving the guy flying into a wall and the bullet thingy and then I struggle with Jimmy going up to a mobster with a gun pointed at Lois and just grabbing the gun and wrestling it away from the guy. They can do a lot better than all of that. It was pretty lame imho.
Alicia Chipy
04-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Another poorly executed scene that asks you to suspend belief in all physical laws yet again!
Billy Jor-El
04-26-2009, 08:26 PM
I just re-watched the ep, and I can't believe Clark was moving at normal speed (and we're just seeing a slow-mo version of it). The bullet is fired as Clark makes his move, only someone "faster than a speeding bullet" could have come close to stopping it from hitting Lois. He may not have been at Warp 9, but he was givin' it all he's got, Cap'n.
galatians221
04-26-2009, 09:19 PM
I just re-watched the ep, and I can't believe Clark was moving at normal speed (and we're just seeing a slow-mo version of it). The bullet is fired as Clark makes his move, only someone "faster than a speeding bullet" could have come close to stopping it from hitting Lois. He may not have been at Warp 9, but he was givin' it all he's got, Cap'n.
Thank you very much. That was my original point and it seemed that no one saw it that way.
Superman of Krypton
04-26-2009, 09:26 PM
He didn't superspeed, not with all the kryptonite surrounding him, he simply jumped in front of the bullet.
And how could he get up and jump in front of a bullet already fired and in midair... without powers?
people without superpowers arent faster than a speeding bullet..
I mean this isn't the first time Smallville's done stupid stuff like this, but seriously..
jpfort1957
04-27-2009, 04:37 PM
Usually Clark can't even crawl out of a room that a piece of K in it.
That'llShowEm
04-27-2009, 04:58 PM
The power of love. ;)
We've seen Clark push himself while under the influence of kryptonite before... though he's still in some serious pain until he finally gets away from it.
Iluvgreen
04-27-2009, 05:00 PM
He wasn't superspeeding!!!!!!!! I love this part!
galatians221
04-27-2009, 07:00 PM
He wasn't superspeeding!!!!!!!! I love this part!
Here's the other thingy; if the bullet is still in Clark when he gets away from the kryptonite, how does he get the bullet out? If the bullet went through him it would have passed into Lois. As I've said, this was a poorly planned scene.
lrog127
04-28-2009, 10:01 AM
It was just poorly directed or peiced together. It didn't go as smoothly as we would have hoped, but I think the point was that it wasn't supposed to be superspeeding. He stepped in front of the bullet for lois without his powers and got hurt.
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Here's the other thingy; if the bullet is still in Clark when he gets away from the kryptonite, how does he get the bullet out? If the bullet went through him it would have passed into Lois. As I've said, this was a poorly planned scene.
Haha! I totally thought of that too! Maybe he dug it out of himself before he healed.:)idk. Leave offscreenville to each one's imagination.
galatians221
04-28-2009, 10:54 AM
It was just poorly directed or peiced together. It didn't go as smoothly as we would have hoped, but I think the point was that it wasn't supposed to be superspeeding. He stepped in front of the bullet for lois without his powers and got hurt.
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Haha! I totally thought of that too! Maybe he dug it out of himself before he healed.:)idk. Leave offscreenville to each one's imagination.
Maybe that's my problem. I don't imagine in the way that the writers want me to. I imagine that Clark has a bullet lodged in him. I'll get over it.
Davis Bloome
04-28-2009, 11:52 AM
Yeah it wasn't superspeed. Watching it one might presume so because of when the bullet was fired and when Clark jumped. as others said it was poorly planned and one does raise question if the writers of this series are getting more sloppy in case of the bullet itself. No they just decide to make him look wounded and the next day there's no talking about his health, he just shows that the wound is closed again, never mind asking where that bullet went...
galatians221
04-28-2009, 12:07 PM
Yeah it wasn't superspeed. Watching it one might presume so because of when the bullet was fired and when Clark jumped. as others said it was poorly planned and one does raise question if the writers of this series are getting more sloppy in case of the bullet itself. No they just decide to make him look wounded and the next day there's no talking about his health, he just shows that the wound is closed again, never mind asking where that bullet went...
I loved the playful smile on Clark's (Tom's) face when he acted as if his side hurt. Welling is becoming a very good actor and I enjoyed that immensely.
dsv100
04-29-2009, 12:36 PM
Is this discussion really taking place? He couldn't superspeed because of the Kryptonite, the whole reason Lois had to come to the rescue.If a normal human's speed and reflexes are good enough for him to leap into the path of a bullet, then I'd love to hear how come Lois's normal human speed was not good enough for her to simply dodge out of the path of a bullet. Moreover, she should be thinking the same thing and realizing that since her reflexes weren't good enough to dodge, but Clark's were good enough to make the leap, his speed is therefore demonstrably superhuman. Regardless of whether she actually saw him superspeeding, regardless of whether they used the special visual effect in the episode, and regardless of the kryptonite.
Drakaun
04-29-2009, 02:53 PM
I thought the scene was an awesome scene and didn't even notice these issues until they were pointed out here. The reason for that being is I have seen Clark jump in front of speeding bullets so many times that I didn't even give it a second thought, and that could possibly be the same for whoever mixes the sound. He is so used to mixing the sound of the gunshot BEFORE Clark goes into his slow motion superspeed that he probably just assumed it was the same old same old he usually does and added the sound where he normally does. In reality, despite the Kryptonite I like to believe that Clark still managed to propel himself with super strength and/or superspeed because of adrenaline. Humans can do extraordinary feats due to adrenaline, why wouldn't a kryptonian be any different if not more extraordinary with his own adrenaline. Another thing to note, rooms on TV tend to look larger than they actually are with the way it is edited, so even if he used some superspeed or superstrength in reality he might have been closer to Lois than we might think.
It's all plausible but I still like the scene overall. I have seen plenty of shows/movies where people dive in front of a speeding bullet to sheild a person without any super abilities whatsoever, I think this is just another case of that, or he did use some power despite his handicap due to adrenaline. Regardless I doubt Lois was thinking about this at the time, more like damnit clark why'd you have to be a hero I don't want anybody dying for me. That is how I see it and why I enjoyed the scene.
galatians221
04-29-2009, 04:32 PM
If a normal human's speed and reflexes are good enough for him to leap into the path of a bullet, then I'd love to hear how come Lois's normal human speed was not good enough for her to simply dodge out of the path of a bullet. Moreover, she should be thinking the same thing and realizing that since her reflexes weren't good enough to dodge, but Clark's were good enough to make the leap, his speed is therefore demonstrably superhuman. Regardless of whether she actually saw him superspeeding, regardless of whether they used the special visual effect in the episode, and regardless of the kryptonite.
Well put!!
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