View Full Version : No more Lois themed episodes please!!
ginevrakent
04-25-2009, 04:19 PM
Too bad the writers aren't interested in exploring her background as they have done with Clark, Chloe, Lex and Lana.
Yet, in her first season on the show TPTB hired two actors to play her family members and wrote a whole episode about her relationship with her father and her sister. In Season 6, we even met one her old friends from her time at Fort Addleson.
Skaterpen357
04-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Here's my take on this...
Lois does directly influence Clark's journey to Superman. She may not tell Clark Kent to become a superhero or keep Doomsday at bay, but she's essential to the RBB arc, which is, IMO, more central to Superman than Doomsday is. (Truth be told, I never really liked the Veritas angle, and Doomsday has kind of turned into a continuation of that. I prefer the Kryptonian who decides to become a human-based symbol.)
Clark's care for Lois and his desire to involve himself in her hopes and dreams (i.e., one of the definitions of love) drove him to promise her, under his Superman persona (may not be the name, but still the persona), that she would be The One to introduce Superman to planet Earth. You can't get much more important than that. (And that's ignoring the part where she names Superman.) Aside from her role in the end, however, the first sentence in this paragraph carries another implication. Clark is just fine with being RBB. He even tells Lois that maybe RBB is anonymous because he's okay with the solitude.
Lois knows better. She sees that RBB is secretly lonely, and needs a human factor of some sort. At the end, when she tells RBB she can be someone to talk to, completely off the record, that shows Lois' seeing the side of RBB that cannot stand the aloofness that comes with the whole blur thing. And Clark now sees that Lois sees that, and promises her that someday, he will go public. That's none of Chloe's influence; Chloe's pretty much fine with RBB. It's because of Ms. Lois Lane that Clark Kent will make the transition from the elusive Red-Blue Blur that saves lives and inspires hope here and there to Superman, public guide for humanity (who still saves lives).
Doomsday, meanwhile, will battle Clark in order to please the Veritas people (just Tess) so that Clark can be the hero in their (read: just Tess') eyes. Chloe...is delaying that.
Now then. Was this episode a filler episode?
Someone earlier in this thread brought up a good way to see what makes an episode a filler: if someone were to miss this episode, would they get confused later on?
We have Intergang, and an Intergang that resents the Justice League and hates Clark Kent and Jimmy Olsen at that. That is definitely going to come back to bite them in the butt; TPTB wouldn't have introduced them if they were a one-shot group of villains. Counter-example: the people who kidnapped Lois in the episode "Arrow" were one-shots, from whom we never heard again. But this is Intergang. That's not something you just "throw in." And we now know quite a bit about them.
We have Lois' first encounter with Superman (not in name, but in essence). We have the promise Lois will be the one to introduce Superman into the world. If that doesn't have an impact on the show, at the very least Lois' mindset and attitude, that's outright purposeful ignorance of continuity. Superman and Lois Lane are now connected, and they were not before "Stiletto." That's no filler.
Chloe is still covering for Davis' murders, despite the fact that Davis in theory should stop the transformations around Chloe. She's also lying to Clark about it. That's a major point. Next episode, based on the previews, has Clark finding out about this. IMO, the impact is lost if viewers didn't pick up in this episode that Chloe is deliberately lying to Clark about Davis' survival.
Finally, Lois is trying to get Jimmy back into journalism. If he takes her up on that, there will be severe confusion to people who didn't watch this episode how he went from quitting his job to having it again.
Really, the only filler-esque thing about this episode is "Lois tries to become a superhero, but gives up at the end." Which had very little to do with the overall plot development.
Of course, this is more for the benefit of everyone else who actually reads these posts, since all the points I've made here will be handwaved away with "Nope, Lois isn't important to the development of Superman on this show." Even though she is.
abbaspice1
04-25-2009, 04:41 PM
here's my take on this...
Lois does directly influence clark's journey to superman. She may not tell clark kent to become a superhero or keep doomsday at bay, but she's essential to the rbb arc, which is, imo, more central to superman than doomsday is. (truth be told, i never really liked the veritas angle, and doomsday has kind of turned into a continuation of that. I prefer the kryptonian who decides to become a human-based symbol.)
clark's care for lois and his desire to involve himself in her hopes and dreams (i.e., one of the definitions of love) drove him to promise her, under his superman persona (may not be the name, but still the persona), that she would be the one to introduce superman to planet earth. You can't get much more important than that. (and that's ignoring the part where she names superman.) aside from her role in the end, however, the first sentence in this paragraph carries another implication. Clark is just fine with being rbb. He even tells lois that maybe rbb is anonymous because he's okay with the solitude.
Lois knows better. She sees that rbb is secretly lonely, and needs a human factor of some sort. At the end, when she tells rbb she can be someone to talk to, completely off the record, that shows lois' seeing the side of rbb that cannot stand the aloofness that comes with the whole blur thing. And clark now sees that lois sees that, and promises her that someday, he will go public. That's none of chloe's influence; chloe's pretty much fine with rbb. It's because of ms. Lois lane that clark kent will make the transition from the elusive red-blue blur that saves lives and inspires hope here and there to superman, public guide for humanity (who still saves lives).
Doomsday, meanwhile, will battle clark in order to please the veritas people (just tess) so that clark can be the hero in their (read: Just tess') eyes. Chloe...is delaying that.
Now then. Was this episode a filler episode?
Someone earlier in this thread brought up a good way to see what makes an episode a filler: If someone were to miss this episode, would they get confused later on?
We have intergang, and an intergang that resents the justice league and hates clark kent and jimmy olsen. That is definitely going to come back to bite them in the butt; tptb wouldn't have introduced them if they were a one-shot group of villains. Counter-example: The people who kidnapped lois in the episode "arrow" were one-shots, from whom we never heard again. But this is intergang. That's not something you just "throw in." and we now know quite a bit about them.
We have lois' first encounter with superman (not in name, but in essence). We have the promise lois will be the one to introduce superman into the world. If that doesn't have an impact on the show, at the very least lois' mindset and attitude, that's outright purposeful ignorance of continuity. Superman and lois lane are now connected, and they were not before "stiletto." that's no filler.
Chloe is still covering for davis' murders, despite the fact that davis in theory should stop the transformations around chloe. She's also lying to clark about it. That's a major point. Next episode, based on the previews, has clark finding out about this. Imo, the impact is lost if viewers didn't pick up in this episode that chloe is deliberately lying to clark about davis' survival.
Finally, lois is trying to get jimmy back into journalism. If he takes her up on that, there will be severe confusion to people who didn't watch this episode how he went from quitting his job to having it again.
Really, the only filler-esque thing about this episode is "lois tries to become a superhero, but gives up at the end." which had very little to do with the overall plot development.
Of course, this is more for the benefit of everyone else who actually reads these posts, since all the points i've made here will be handwaved away with "nope, lois isn't important to the development of superman on this show." even though she is.
excellent post!
Bizarrolover
04-25-2009, 04:48 PM
Great post Andrew!
Smallville Vamp
04-25-2009, 05:07 PM
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friendsita
04-25-2009, 05:12 PM
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I hope they havn't damaged the run up to the final episodes with this nonsense.
I'm with u :cool:
borednow
04-25-2009, 06:25 PM
Bravo Skaterpen357!
traceylb
04-25-2009, 07:27 PM
Excellent post Skaterpen357 and ITA with all that you took the time to write! :D
Lori Lemaris
04-25-2009, 07:30 PM
Please do not hate me for saying this....but...........
BRING BACK KRISTIN KREUK!!!
I swear to the GOD, I know many people hate Lana Lang, but she draws more crowd and audience than Erica Durance/Lois Lane...
This is just a so-so, 50/50 episode, hit or miss...though I kinda like it, but not too much...I expected a lot...but Erica did a great job.
Lexgirl33
04-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Closing this thread. It may be reopened but for now it needs to cool down a bit.
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