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ClubXerxes
04-24-2009, 01:44 PM
Okay - enough's enough

What has Jimmy done to deserve this?

He had to endure Chloe with her "Clark hangups" throughout their relationship, but he pushed through this
Right before his marriage he finds the love letter to Clark, and goes off crestfallen to the Ace of Clubs - and what happens there? A heart attack after a kiss from Maxima
He is then kidnapped on the night of his engagement party and tortured
He confesses that his father is a drunk and mother a waste of space
He finally marries Chloe, and a Destroyer shreds his innards as he tries to protect the ingrate Chloe
He is in the hospital recovering for many weeks, and Chloe is rarely at his side
When she is, she is critical of him, and believes in a psychopath instead
Even though still in pain, he manages to expose Davis for what he is, and no one believes him (they accuse him of being a junkie)
He drops off materials on Davis at the DP, which Tess Mercer uses no less, and STILL he remains unemployed...incredible!
The writers then have Jimmy cursing at Chloe in emails and messages - totally justified if you ask me
When Davis is finally exposed, does Chloe run back to Jimmy and apologize?? No - she does nothing...nothing except continue to support the monster that gutted her husband and who is destined to kill Clark (the one she has sworn to protect)
Divorced, broke and addicted to drugs, Jimmy now gets a job as a bartender at the Ace of Clubs, only to once again be beaten severely by another thug. How many concussions will it take for him to leave Metropolis?
The writers - in one last slap - have Jimmy buying drugs with counterfeit money he took from Bruno Manheim's office (at least that is my guess)



I've heard of artistic license, but this is ridiculous!


So what's next for Jimmy Olsen? Male Prostitute, complete with STDs? Leprosy? Hemorrhagic fever? Early onset dementia?

I know - he becomes a host for alien spores...oh wait, that already happened when one of the Zoners speared him with her tree branches...silly me!

KaraClarkfan
04-25-2009, 07:59 AM
i do believe that this is not the jimmy that im use to seeing in the superman movies. but this is smallville. everything can happen

LilMo
04-25-2009, 11:03 AM
I really don't like what's happened either, Jimmy was a decent character.

zHeN_zHeN
04-25-2009, 11:12 AM
Well, SV's messed up a lot of characters in the past. Now, they're messing with Jimmy, Chloe, and Oliver. :(

smallvillefreak24
04-25-2009, 12:56 PM
i liked jimmy tonight- i think he needs to get back on track and stop the druggie nonsense but he still stood up for lois and kicked thug butt go J.O.

ClubXerxes
04-25-2009, 10:25 PM
So no on the male prostitute angle? I mean, if you're going to plumb the depths of a character, you might as well go all the way to the bottom...maybe even a stint in porn for Jimbo. They can call him "Jimmy Holes'em"

I just feel sorry for AA...I don't know - maybe he approves - he could have thought Jimmy was too one dimensional...this however was a bad idea

bluewolv1970
04-25-2009, 11:54 PM
Okay - enough's enough

What has Jimmy done to deserve this?

He had to endure Chloe with her "Clark hangups" throughout their relationship, but he pushed through this
Right before his marriage he finds the love letter to Clark, and goes off crestfallen to the Ace of Clubs - and what happens there? A heart attack after a kiss from Maxima
He is then kidnapped on the night of his engagement party and tortured
He confesses that his father is a drunk and mother a waste of space
He finally marries Chloe, and a Destroyer shreds his innards as he tries to protect the ingrate Chloe
He is in the hospital recovering for many weeks, and Chloe is rarely at his side
When she is, she is critical of him, and believes in a psychopath instead
Even though still in pain, he manages to expose Davis for what he is, and no one believes him (they accuse him of being a junkie)
He drops off materials on Davis at the DP, which Tess Mercer uses no less, and STILL he remains unemployed...incredible!
The writers then have Jimmy cursing at Chloe in emails and messages - totally justified if you ask me
When Davis is finally exposed, does Chloe run back to Jimmy and apologize?? No - she does nothing...nothing except continue to support the monster that gutted her husband and who is destined to kill Clark (the one she has sworn to protect)
Divorced, broke and addicted to drugs, Jimmy now gets a job as a bartender at the Ace of Clubs, only to once again be beaten severely by another thug. How many concussions will it take for him to leave Metropolis?
The writers - in one last slap - have Jimmy buying drugs with counterfeit money he took from Bruno Manheim's office (at least that is my guess)



I've heard of artistic license, but this is ridiculous!


So what's next for Jimmy Olsen? Male Prostitute, complete with STDs? Leprosy? Hemorrhagic fever? Early onset dementia?

I know - he becomes a host for alien spores...oh wait, that already happened when one of the Zoners speared him with her tree branches...silly me!

well you know this is the funniest post i have read in a while and I agree the bold is great

Bre723
04-26-2009, 12:22 AM
I like what they've done with Jimmy.
At least he's interesting.

LoveHurts38
04-26-2009, 12:46 AM
Poor Jimmy but, he will get better!!!

KAL-EL10
04-26-2009, 02:32 AM
I like the character of Jimmy on smallville very much and while i don't like the story line of him turning to drugs at least they were prescribed originally. He just split from his wife, lost his dream job and was almost destroyed by doomsday. So while this doesn't justify what he's doing at least he didn't just go out and become a junkie he got addicted to prescribed medication and he could still be in a lot of pain. Either way Jimmy will bounce back and be as awesome and quirky as ever.

Kid Collins
04-26-2009, 11:24 AM
Is this storyline suppose to be entertaining? Is it suppose to lead somewhere for Jimmy?

Get this dude to rehab or put him out of his misery and let him OD already.

If Jimmy dies then CW can do a Don't do Drugs shout out during the commercials. :D

cksidekick
04-26-2009, 11:36 AM
It's quite entertaining to me. But I believe I know where it's heading and I'm patient about it. Oliver Queen is going to step in help Jimmy which will on many levels help him as well. Both jimmy and Chloe have fallen nearly to rock bottom. But guess what! The season is nearly over and so is all of this tragedy in their lives. jimmy will come around. Perhaps he WILL leave Metropolis/Smallville when it's all over. But I have no doubt he will be on the better side of things.

xrayvision
04-26-2009, 12:10 PM
I hate what they're doing to Jimmy as much as I hated what they did with Pete in Hero. Both characters deserve better & both need to be brought back & fixed next season. Enough's enough already.

SGuthrie27
04-26-2009, 01:43 PM
They've been taking some of the most likable, believable, and somewhat normal characters (for a sci-fi television show, anyway) and have been beating them down all season, and for what? I suppose it will add to some characterization, and maybe it'll make them that much more determined and stronger down the road, but I, too, am saddened by and tired of what they're doing to Jimmy, and to Chloe as well, who's had plenty of burdens to shoulder throughout this entire season. It's a wonder the two of them aren't checking themselves into Belle Reeve after all the mental stress and anguish they've gone through in the past year.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

quinny06
04-26-2009, 02:15 PM
What has Jimmy done to deserve this?

What did Chloe do to deserve being stuck as Clark's sidekick for Seasons 5 to 7?
What did Oliver do to deserve being made a killer?
What did Lois do to deserve having her interest in writing be so lightswitch?
What did Clark do to deserve Season 7?

The writers seem to choose a character and just dump everything on them at times.

But they can bring them back, they have done with Clark this season.

jpfort1957
04-26-2009, 02:22 PM
Jimmy is the most abused character is SV, hands down!!!!

ClubXerxes
04-26-2009, 02:48 PM
They've been taking some of the most likable, believable, and somewhat normal characters (for a sci-fi television show, anyway) and have been beating them down all season, and for what? I suppose it will add to some characterization, and maybe it'll make them that much more determined and stronger down the road, but I, too, am saddened by and tired of what they're doing to Jimmy, and to Chloe as well, who's had plenty of burdens to shoulder throughout this entire season. It's a wonder the two of them aren't checking themselves into Belle Reeve after all the mental stress and anguish they've gone through in the past year.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Agreed - it's as if being on drugs and getting sober is a prerequisite for someone to achieve strength of character (sounds like the typical Hollywood wild child/celebrity story of redemption). I'm baffled by the direction Jimmy has taken at the hands of the writers. I'm also appalled at the lack of friends in Jimmy's corner. Not one visit from Clark? Nada from Lois, other than using him for a few pics? Now I am supposed to believe Oliver will befriend Jimmy out of the blue? No - he will do so because of Jimmy's knowledge of Davis Bloome.

red_sun1938
04-27-2009, 07:51 AM
I'm pretty tired of this too. So Jimmy is addicted to drugs and is now stealing counterfeit money from Intergang to support his habit. Give me a break. *sigh*

justme_007
04-27-2009, 08:37 AM
Is this storyline suppose to be entertaining? Is it suppose to lead somewhere for Jimmy?

Get this dude to rehab or put him out of his misery and let him OD already.

If Jimmy dies then CW can do a Don't do Drugs shout out during the commercials. :D

:lol:

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I'm pretty tired of this too. So Jimmy is addicted to drugs and is now stealing counterfeit money from Intergang to support his habit. Give me a break. *sigh*

DId he steal the money? and the money is made of kryptonite? right! :confused:

red_sun1938
04-27-2009, 08:48 AM
:lol:

----- Added 40 Seconds later -----



DId he steal the money? and the money is made of kryptonite? right! :confused:

We didn't see it on screen but it was a fresh roll of the krypto bills. Jimmy was working for Manheim and was strapped for cash and had access to the cash during the aftermath. Maybe it's a way of Jimmy getting even for being beaten up but stealing counterfeit bills to support a growing drug problem? Come on. Which leads to a possible plot hole. What happens if a chance meeting on the street between Jimmy and CK occurs with said money on Jimmy's person. Clark falls in a heap and Jimmy maybe puts it together but is probably too high to notice. *sigh*

xrayvision
04-27-2009, 08:53 AM
What did Chloe do to deserve being stuck as Clark's sidekick for Seasons 5 to 7?
What did Oliver do to deserve being made a killer?
What did Lois do to deserve having her interest in writing be so lightswitch?
What did Clark do to deserve Season 7?

The writers seem to choose a character and just dump everything on them at times.

But they can bring them back, they have done with Clark this season.

I agree with perhaps most of, if not everything that you said quinny06. Chloe should have been kept her own character, as that's how she was the most realistic & the most interesting. Sure they could have had her be her own character & help Clark every now & then after learning his secret, but they chose to have her as his brain & crutch every stinking episode.

The reason this happened to Chloe was because they wanted to slow Clark down by having Chloe take most of his slack/previous role. So Chloe was unnaturally built up and then unnaturally knocked down when they decided it was time to get Clark where it was supposed to be. The writers and/or producers never realized that they could have slowed down Clark without turning him stupid or overly dependent on Chloe by developing various aspects to his character that they overlooked. They could have shown him going to college, but instead they turned him into a dropout who never went back.

This gets to my point that Clark is the one character they should have never done this to. The future Superman is someone who should have been off-limits to this treatment. Like I said, doing it to Clark screwed up Chloe when the time came to bring Clark where he needed to be. And it still wasn't believable how he could have landed a job at the Daily Planet without any college, just as it was for Lois with the Inquisitor & DP. They chose to focus on soap opera elements that they created with Lexana and put Clark on "Lana-standby" whenever she was in danger. This is why I hate season 6 so much. That season should have had Clark go back to college as well as Chloe & Lois. Instead they brought in Oliver as a recurring guest and have him--a non-Superman/Smallville character---take up the time of Smallville/Superman characters who could & should have been developed. Between Lexana, which caused the "Lana-standby" mode Clark was in, and Oliver, Clark was utterly screwed in season 6. Season 7 screwed Clark by having him deal with the Lexana-aftermath & Lana's destructive ways as well as her Brainiac-induced coma. Then the season focused on the horribly written & executed Veritas storyline. They failed to have Clark act on any of that "secret of Veritas" stuff & he never even investigated Lionel's death. Neither he nor Lois investigated Grant Gabriel's death. Going back to season 4, they wasted most of Clark's time with the football story (which could have been started & finished in 4 episodes max). They also paired him off with Lois, who I still believe was introduced a season too early--should have been there starting season 5). As a result the stones plot was screwed and barely got any screen time. Clark looked foolish when the meteor shower was turned into being his fault. Jonathan's death in season 5 also made him look bad as well as his constant reliance on Chloe which began as soon as he told her the secret in the hospital room.

By the way, I don't think Oliver killed Lex. I'm sure Lex is alive & well. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to take Smallville's version of Lex seriously. There's no way he would leave himself so open if Lex was vulnerable. I'm certain the Lex in the truck was a clone who the real Lex killed. My theory is that the real Lex had Zatanna's father put a spell on him to make him look like Oliver (much like Zatanna did to Chloe in Hex by making her look like Lois). And that Lex subsequently killed John Zatara not long after calling Zatanna to say goodbye to her. I think that is why Lex was in possession of John Zatara's spellbook and why the Oliver we saw at the end of Hex had the kryptonite ring. If it turns out that Tess is killed in Doomsday & we see Oliver being the killer, then I'm certain that my theory is right & that there are 2 Olivers, one of them being Lex.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


We didn't see it on screen but it was a fresh roll of the krypto bills. Jimmy was working for Manheim and was strapped for cash and had access to the cash during the aftermath. Maybe it's a way of Jimmy getting even for being beaten up but stealing counterfeit bills to support a growing drug problem? Come on. Which leads to a possible plot hole. What happens if a chance meeting on the street between Jimmy and CK occurs with said money on Jimmy's person. Clark falls in a heap and Jimmy maybe puts it together but is probably too high to notice. *sigh*

If anything, he should but a new camera with it after that awesome & expensive camera of his was broken. Even though it would be wrong to spend it, he deserves a new camera.

Chlarky
04-27-2009, 09:01 AM
First off the writer of this episode should never go near SV again. Because she obviously has an inner hatred for both Lois & Jimmy. That much evident in the plot lines she created for them.

Then to add insult to injury she emphasized on Jimmy's drug addiction and made hime act very OOC.

I hope the producers fire this idiot and never all her to write for the show again.

dru-zod2501
04-27-2009, 10:19 AM
So no on the male prostitute angle? I mean, if you're going to plumb the depths of a character, you might as well go all the way to the bottom...maybe even a stint in porn for Jimbo. They can call him "Jimmy Holes'em"
;)
I just feel sorry for AA...I don't know - maybe he approves - he could have thought Jimmy was too one dimensional...this however was a bad idea
:lol:

Jimmy as a hooker/porn star would push this arc past greatness into super-greatness

Forget Clark's destiny, I want the miss-adventures of "Jumbo Jimbo!!":D

ClubXerxes
04-27-2009, 07:21 PM
:lol:

Jimmy as a hooker/porn star would push this arc past greatness into super-greatness

Forget Clark's destiny, I want the miss-adventures of "Jumbo Jimbo!!":D

:rotfl:Or a combo - "Jumbo Jimbo Holes'em", star of "The Full Spread", "Broadsheet Bimbos" and "Below the Fold"

Exedore
04-27-2009, 07:30 PM
And they say it's all going to align with the mythos. :lol:

Violet-Shadow
04-27-2009, 07:31 PM
They have sure put Jimmy through the ringer. He's supposed to be happy go lucky - how can he bounce back from this?

To add insult to injury, tptb hardly use him. I think his episode count is 11 this season. I could be wrong though. It would've been great to see him and Lois working together more often instead of working so hard on their separate love stories (not that I minded Clois or Chimmy but with later developements in the season, I would've preferred to have Lois and Jimmy having storylines separate from their love interests).

INSTEAD, Jimmy is almost killed by the man/murderer who is now courting (albeit in a creepy way) his ex wife, while addicted to illegal narcotics. This is NOT Jimmy Olsen (well, it is, but it shouldn't be). I just hope that this lame storyline ends SOON!

borednow
04-27-2009, 10:11 PM
His character is have 10% of it killed?

Violet-Shadow
04-27-2009, 10:33 PM
His character is have 10% of it killed?

:lol:

Chlarky
04-28-2009, 07:48 AM
They have sure put Jimmy through the ringer. He's supposed to be happy go lucky - how can he bounce back from this?

To add insult to injury, tptb hardly use him. I think his episode count is 11 this season. I could be wrong though. It would've been great to see him and Lois working together more often instead of working so hard on their separate love stories (not that I minded Clois or Chimmy but with later developements in the season, I would've preferred to have Lois and Jimmy having storylines separate from their love interests).

INSTEAD, Jimmy is almost killed by the man/murderer who is now courting (albeit in a creepy way) his ex wife, while addicted to illegal narcotics. This is NOT Jimmy Olsen (well, it is, but it shouldn't be). I just hope that this lame storyline ends SOON!


To be fair, Davis was courting Chloe before/while/after she was married/divorced.

xrayvision
04-28-2009, 11:21 AM
The writers singing:

Jimmy's a crackwhore and I don't care, Jimmy whacked & in porn and I don't care, Jimmy hacked & torn and I don't care, my dealer's gone away.

susangail
04-28-2009, 08:56 PM
^^^^ It would be hilarious if the situation weren't so wrong :(

xrayvision
04-28-2009, 09:05 PM
^^I know. :(

Violet-Shadow
04-28-2009, 09:10 PM
To be fair, Davis was courting Chloe before/while/after she was married/divorced.

Yeah that makes it better. :rolleyes: (Rolling my eyes at Jimmy's situation, not you)

borednow
04-28-2009, 09:39 PM
Yeah that makes it better. :rolleyes: (Rolling my eyes at Jimmy's situation, not you)

Yeah it makes everything better....

Violet-Shadow
04-28-2009, 09:42 PM
Yeah it makes everything better....

I know. Chlavis at the expense of Jimmy... :mad:

amberdawn
04-28-2009, 09:48 PM
I know. Chlavis at the expense of Jimmy... :mad:

:mad:

borednow
04-28-2009, 10:33 PM
grrr... if they wanted Chlavis having Jimmy and Chloe get married was just cruel! PTB Jimmy is not a dark character!