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Tebow15
04-24-2009, 08:38 AM
If Chloe dies or goes evil I have been thinking it would be cool if they brought Pete back as Clark's go to pal or will it resort to Oliver?

Bizarrolover
04-24-2009, 08:41 AM
Please, don't bring Pete back, he's so annoying.

Night_Hawk90
04-24-2009, 08:42 AM
yes bring back sam jones III, i miss pete ross i liked him a lot more than chloe as clark's confidant

Tebow15
04-24-2009, 08:43 AM
hmmm, I always liked Pete.

justice league
04-24-2009, 08:59 AM
i think pete should get together with chloe

RaniaLovesClois
04-24-2009, 08:59 AM
No! Time 2 move beyond smallville friends.

smallvillerocks45
04-24-2009, 10:02 AM
I've always loved Pete, but if the writers couldn't find a way to incorporate him into the show, I certainly don't know how they would do that now. ...but I would like to see MM back. :)

Tebow15
04-24-2009, 11:04 AM
I love me some MM.

LoveHurts38
04-24-2009, 11:05 AM
Pete needs to come back to listen to Clark and start to look for his future wife and mother of his son...Lana Lang.

Tebow15
04-24-2009, 11:08 AM
YEAH LOL!

I always liked Pete and really hated to see him go at the end of S3.

Supes_24
04-24-2009, 11:43 AM
Nah...too late in the series for that

Pete was cool though

Kevin24
04-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Pete the Boss Ross will show everyone how it's done. He knows how to be a sidekick with a sidewinder oh yeah!! He will show Chloe the light and then Lana will fall in love with Pete's greatness and live happily ever after!

Minela
04-24-2009, 12:05 PM
Lois is clearly moving to the spot of confidante. As it should be.

Tebow15
04-24-2009, 12:22 PM
yeah, I can see that.

mjs1973
04-24-2009, 12:50 PM
I would like to see Pete come back only if they give him a more important role. If they are going towards the the DC Universe I could see this as a way for Pete and Marta coming back to talk about what Pete has done since being a roadie as far as politics goes. His mom is a judge. This will allow Martha to be at home to have someone there for Clark that identifies him with home if Chloe doesn't make it.

blink2matrix
04-24-2009, 01:15 PM
i am not a fan of Smallville's Pete... so i'd rather he stay away :-X

'Tonio09
04-24-2009, 03:39 PM
I would like to see Pete come back only if they give him a more important role. If they are going towards the the DC Universe I could see this as a way for Pete and Marta coming back to talk about what Pete has done since being a roadie as far as politics goes. His mom is a judge. This will allow Martha to be at home to have someone there for Clark that identifies him with home if Chloe doesn't make it.

Agreed.

Clark/Lois-fan
04-24-2009, 04:00 PM
Pete should just stay away. It was wrong how they brought him back in S7- so never again.

clois-destiny-forever
04-24-2009, 04:05 PM
Pete doesn't need to come back. Let this show move forward and not backward.

xrayvision
04-24-2009, 04:37 PM
I made a post with this exact topic:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124232

and also provided ideas on how Pete could be used. The biggest one I mentioned is having Intergang show up (especially after seeing Mannheim for the first time in Stiletto) and taking over the city & spreading corruption in City Hall, where Pete could be shown to work with the Mayor's administration. Martha could be Pete's mentor while Pete could be Clark's contact & source of info at City Hall. This would not only be believable, but would prevent the focus of the show from shifting to the Justice League, which would be the worst thing that could happen.

Between having Pete as Clark & Jimmy's buddy and a close confidant who Clark shares his secret with & gets advice from, bringing him back would contribute a lot to the show. I would love to see Clark & Pete go to a baseball game in Metropolis where Pete would recognize some guys from City Hall who turn out to be in a major gambling operation, which results in a story Clark would write.


Pete doesn't need to come back. Let this show move forward and not backward.

Pete is part of the future. In the Superman comics, he is one of Clark's closest friends & becomes vice president under Lex. To not bring him back would be ignoring a core character in Clark's life in Smallville & his future life as Superman.

Lexsghost
04-24-2009, 04:40 PM
Pete.....Pete where are you? (from like every episode)

Smallville Vamp
04-24-2009, 04:51 PM
I personally thought his character was sooo BORING. There's really no need to bring back Pete when Clark has Oliver and the JL.

Jaderoyale
04-24-2009, 05:38 PM
It should to Oliver.
Hero last year prooved we don't need Pete Ross.

xrayvision
04-24-2009, 06:18 PM
It should to Oliver.
Hero last year prooved we don't need Pete Ross.

I thought Hero was a crappy episode written by horrible writers who never wrote a Smallville episode before or since Hero. Season 7 was the worst season of Smallville with Hero being a small example of how bad it was.

With Al & Miles gone, I think Pete would be a much better character who would have a much more serious role. He is a Superman character, not Oliver, Bart, MM, Cyborg, or the rest of the Justice League. They should phase out those characters and stick to the core of Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Pete, Perry White, Martha, and bring in Intergang as the main villians. The only non-Superman character I'd like to see stick around is MM/J'onn J'onzz as a Metropolis detective.

I loved the Clark-Jimmy-MM dynamic of Prey, the Clark-Lois dynamic, and the Clark-Pete/Clark-Chloe-Pete dynamic of the early seasons. I liked the Pete-Jimmy interaction that took place in Hero (one of the only good things). I think all the characters of these dynamics mix well & work well together especially now that there is no Lana or Al/Miles on the show anymore.

TW liked working with SJ3 and if he gets some creative control I think they could do great things with the Pete Ross character.

xanthai
04-24-2009, 06:25 PM
With Al & Miles gone, I think Pete would be a much better character who would have a much more serious role. He is a Superman character, not Oliver, Bart, MM, Cyborg, or the rest of the Justice League. They should phase out those characters and stick to the core of Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Pete, Perry White, Martha, and bring in Intergang as the main villians. The only non-Superman character I'd like to see stick around is MM/J'onn J'onzz as a Metropolis detective.

Yeah, bring Perry back! I mean... we got teased with him in Season 3. It was such a great episode.

EDIT: Intergang wouldn't be so bad either ^^

aceofclubs
04-26-2009, 10:56 PM
I thought Martian Manhunter was from the Superman universe?


It would be pretty sweet if Pete was brought back, but that epi he was in last season made me not like him a little cause they wrote him like a jerk :(

zHeN_zHeN
04-26-2009, 11:01 PM
Pete's moved on and so should we.

So, if Chloe dies then Clark's confident should either be MM or Oliver.

EternalTwilight
04-26-2009, 11:20 PM
Time to move beyond Smallville friends. Superman doesn't need to have his hand held every step of the way.

amandaa125
04-27-2009, 07:32 AM
I always liked pete until he had that pointless return with the whole stride gum thing. that kind of made me not want him to come back. I say pete shouldnt come back, it would be nice of clark to make some references of talking to him though, keeping in touch with him.

xrayvision
04-27-2009, 07:49 AM
Time to move beyond Smallville friends. Superman doesn't need to have his hand held every step of the way.

Pete isn't simply a Smallville friend but someone Clark as Superman in the comics has dealt with throughout his life. He also becomes Vice President of the U.S. under Lex. It sucks how they screwed up his appearance in Hero when they could have shown the eventual partnership with Lex being set up by having Pete be a watchdog who keeps an eye on Lex & risks his life to keep Clark filled in on what Lex will be doing.

And Pete didn't hold his hand every step of the way. If anyone did that, it was Chloe from seasons 5-7. And now, even Lois is doing it with his career. This is why I want Clark to get fired in season 9. I want Doomsday & him to mutually kill each other & this to happen as a result of not showing up to work for several months. Upon his return I want him to join the Metropolis Journal where he could work for Perry White finally have his career developed without Lois holding his hand or getting all the bylines because this is my biggest problem with things right now. The way things are going, he will never get an opportunity to write his own story without Lois writing it, preventing him from becoming an ace reporter. His development into an ace reporter must take place away from Lois, just like Lois' did away from Clark.

I don't buy it at all that Pete would hold his hand. He never did before & he never will. That is why I like the character so much. He is the only character who never held Clark's hand in anything he did. He was always Clark's #1 buddy and almost died on multiple occasions to protect Clark's secret. Having Pete be Clark's source at City Hall as he works for the mayor during a time that Intergang is infiltrating the mayor's administration wouldn't involve any hand holding. It would set up a realistic journalist-source dynamic as well as give Clark a best friend to talk to about various things like his job, his hero persona, covering for his identity, and even his love life with Lois. If they give Pete a serious storyline like the one I pointed out, they can't go wrong with the guy. It could also allow them to bring back Martha as Pete's mentor and turn this show back towards the core Superman characters--Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Pete, Perry, Martha, and add Intergang as the villians. This would prevent the show from becoming a Justice League show, which would really ruin it as Clark would have very small onscreen minutes as he did when the Green Arrow was introduced in season 6.

red_sun1938
04-27-2009, 07:53 AM
Oliver and MM. No need to bring back Pete. I loved him when he was on but that ship has sailed.

xrayvision
04-27-2009, 07:58 AM
I thought Martian Manhunter was from the Superman universe?


It would be pretty sweet if Pete was brought back, but that epi he was in last season made me not like him a little cause they wrote him like a jerk :(

Well, they're ruining Jimmy now too. They need to do Pete & Jimmy justice and write them in the proper way.

They even screwed up with Chloe big time. In seasons 5-7, they wrote Chloe as someone who was perfect & couldn't make mistakes and now they're doing the exact opposite. The way they wrote her in the 1st four seasons was the best as she was realistic---someone who was a good friend to Clark but was also flawed like an actual person making mistakes every now & then. That's how she should have always been written. Not as some superhacker who could solve any problem until she murdered Sebastian and then threw away bodies Davis killed.

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----


Oliver and MM. No need to bring back Pete. I loved him when he was on but that ship has sailed.

I disagree. Oliver & MM are Justice League heroes. This isn't a Justice League show & shouldn't be turned into one. Whenever it happens, Clark ends up becoming a guest character on his own show with the little minutes he gets & also ends up being portrayed as a goof. This is when Clark's approval ratings as seen in these forums drop the most.

Pete is a Superman character who is in Clark's Superman future. TPTB shouldn't forget that. He is also someone who would work well in an Intergang plot since his future career is into politics (VP under Lex), and Intergang would mean a whole lot of corruption in City Hall, where Pete could be working. Never would the circumstances be better for bringing him back in a serious role.

Jawth
04-29-2009, 06:56 PM
I'd like him to come back for a arc. In 4-6 episodes you could repair the damage done to the character in Stri-I mean hero and set him up on his political path.

alejandrita439
04-29-2009, 07:00 PM
No :rolleyes:
he needs to move forward :)

EternalTwilight
04-29-2009, 10:56 PM
Pete isn't simply a Smallville friend but someone Clark as Superman in the comics has dealt with throughout his life. He also becomes Vice President of the U.S. under Lex. It sucks how they screwed up his appearance in Hero when they could have shown the eventual partnership with Lex being set up by having Pete be a watchdog who keeps an eye on Lex & risks his life to keep Clark filled in on what Lex will be doing.

And Pete didn't hold his hand every step of the way. If anyone did that, it was Chloe from seasons 5-7. And now, even Lois is doing it with his career. This is why I want Clark to get fired in season 9. I want Doomsday & him to mutually kill each other & this to happen as a result of not showing up to work for several months. Upon his return I want him to join the Metropolis Journal where he could work for Perry White finally have his career developed without Lois holding his hand or getting all the bylines because this is my biggest problem with things right now. The way things are going, he will never get an opportunity to write his own story without Lois writing it, preventing him from becoming an ace reporter. His development into an ace reporter must take place away from Lois, just like Lois' did away from Clark.

I don't buy it at all that Pete would hold his hand. He never did before & he never will. That is why I like the character so much. He is the only character who never held Clark's hand in anything he did. He was always Clark's #1 buddy and almost died on multiple occasions to protect Clark's secret. Having Pete be Clark's source at City Hall as he works for the mayor during a time that Intergang is infiltrating the mayor's administration wouldn't involve any hand holding. It would set up a realistic journalist-source dynamic as well as give Clark a best friend to talk to about various things like his job, his hero persona, covering for his identity, and even his love life with Lois. If they give Pete a serious storyline like the one I pointed out, they can't go wrong with the guy. It could also allow them to bring back Martha as Pete's mentor and turn this show back towards the core Superman characters--Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Pete, Perry, Martha, and add Intergang as the villians. This would prevent the show from becoming a Justice League show, which would really ruin it as Clark would have very small onscreen minutes as he did when the Green Arrow was introduced in season 6.

Okay, you've convinced me...now I REALLY don't want Pete back. Yikes!

xrayvision
04-29-2009, 11:35 PM
So you don't want him back because his presence allowed Clark to think for himself & be independent? After all, Pete did help Clark with things that Clark truly needed help with. He helped Clark hide his ship in Fever & was a decoy for the police & authorities who would have arrested Clark & Jonathan for breaking into the DCA building. He also helped Clark taint the DNA test so the authorities didn't find out he was an alien.

I'll take a friend like that vs. a friend like they turned Chloe into starting in season 5, who was at least half responsible (along with Clana & Lexana) for Clark being turned into a BDA starting in season 5.

I guess we can't have an independent Clark on this show. I wouldn't at all be surprised if I'm right & Clark doesn't end up getting a single byline of his own (onscreen) throughout the rest of the series. They ruined Lana & Chloe, and I'm pretty sure they'll ruin Lois too by making her be another character who holds Clark's development back. I seriously hope I'm wrong, because I want to keep liking her. If they make Clark a doormat for her too, then I will be thoroughly fed up with the characters of this show.

EternalTwilight
04-29-2009, 11:53 PM
I get what you're saying, I really do. But I just don't want to see the scenario you described, it's not how I see Clark becoming Superman. I don't need another BFF for Clark to have a heart to heart with over a nice cup of tea. There doesn't need to be a mutual death for Clark to be independent. And if Clark wants a byline, he should go out and get it himself. I appreciate what Pete did for him in the past, don't get me wrong. I just don't see it as a necessity. As for ruining Lois? It's probably a matter of time and according to the latest spoilers, it could be as soon as this season. Meh...what can I do? I'm not happy about it. And I don't think Clark's a BDA. I'm all for independent Clark but we don't need Pete for that. We don't need ANYONE for that. He should accomplish this on his own. He should evolve on his own without the push from anyone else. After 8 years, it's not much to ask for, is it?

xrayvision
04-30-2009, 12:08 AM
I get what you're saying, I really do. But I just don't want to see the scenario you described, it's not how I see Clark becoming Superman. I don't need another BFF for Clark to have a heart to heart with over a nice cup of tea. There doesn't need to be a mutual death for Clark to be independent. And if Clark wants a byline, he should go out and get it himself. I appreciate what Pete did for him in the past, don't get me wrong. I just don't see it as a necessity. As for ruining Lois? It's probably a matter of time and according to the latest spoilers, it could be as soon as this season. Meh...what can I do? I'm not happy about it. And I don't think Clark's a BDA. I'm all for independent Clark but we don't need Pete for that. We don't need ANYONE for that. He should accomplish this on his own. He should evolve on his own without the push from anyone else. After 8 years, it's not much to ask for, is it?

Well, my main point is that I'd rather have Pete there than Ollie, Bart or anyone else from the JLA because that will result in Clark not being independent. It will also take the focus off Clark and the Big 3 and really screw it up by making it something it wasn't meant to be. I'm pretty sure if any other JLA members become a regular that Lois won't get 22 episodes in season 9.

But I do respect your opinions. My main point was that they will add more regulars next season if these supposed deaths come true. I'd rather have those spots taken up by Superman characters than JLA characters for the reasons I pointed out. If there are 2 spots, I'd like to see Perry & Pete get them. It would work well with Intergang. Lois could then become the leading female & we can have Intergang show up and all these characters would fit in perfectly.

I didn't read the spoilers about Lois, and I won't. I just hope she's not ruined because it's been a pleasure watching her. I'm very concerned that they will ruin the 1 thing almost everyone here has been looking forward to this season---the Doomsday fight. They really held Clark back from any significant interaction with Davis for most of the season and if they ruin the fight, then I'd say the season was a loss. I'm even guessing they're saving most of the budget for it. I just think there will be some lame stupid plot device--most likely involving time travel or some cheap tactic where any victory Clark will have will get a big asterisk like the Barry Bonds homerun ball.

EternalTwilight
04-30-2009, 12:23 AM
Well, taking the focus off of Clark and putting it on JLA wouldn't really be too appealing to the people who watch the show for Clark (like me). I hope that doesn't happen. But I totally agree that if we get new regulars, it should be Superman characters and not JLA. There's more speculation about Oliver being one of the deaths. I'd rather see him leave and have guest spots rather than death but that's another issue Personally, I'm hoping for Perry and Bruno and Lois becoming leading lady. I feel like Pete's story has been done. He's moved on and so has his quota of protecting and taking hits for Clark. I don't see what else they can do with him other than turning him into a sidekick or another version of Chloe. But it's not something I've thought too deeply about since the possibility of it happening isn't very high. As for the Doomsday fight, don't give up hope yet!

xrayvision
04-30-2009, 01:00 AM
Well, I was hoping he would have been Clark's friend & a source at City Hall, where he would work with the mayor since his future is in politics as VP of the U.S. under Lex Luthor as President. I always wanted to see development of his political career and think that if they do Intergang next season, it would be a perfect time for him to come back since Intergang could easily infiltrate City Hall. And Clark having a source would be very realistic. I also have wanted him to have a male friend for the longest time. I think they need to have at least 1 person who knows his secret on the show other than him. They always have. Whether it was his parents, Pete, Chloe, Lana, etc. If Chloe ends up dying, then he will need someone. And I don't want it to be Oliver. I'm tired of him since he doesn't make Clark look good. And I'd call him more of a hero acquaintance than a friend.

Exedore
04-30-2009, 01:18 AM
I agree, Pete needs to be back. He has a mythos-backed role in Superman's future. I want to see him getting into politics. I don't see why Clark having a friend and a political source would be a step backward or anything. A good reporter needs his sources too and Pete can be the political source that Clark will need in his future career as an ace reporter. Pete can be a good supporting character without becoming a crutch for Clark like Chloe became from S5 onwards. That's assuming some good writing of course and good writing is pretty rare on SV.

And I really want to see Oliver and the rest of the JLA surgically removed from SV. They are not part of the Superman family and they are doing nothing but taking up valuable time and money where it should be spent on more important stuff like flight, more fleshed out DP and Metropolis, Perry, Dan Turpin, Maggie Sawyer, Intergang, etc. Oliver's entire purpose on the show seems to be to make Clark look bad most of the time. :/ It's high time time he left the show.

MM was the only superhero who I won't mind staying, seeing as how he is used sparingly anyway. I was thinking that his shape shifting ability might be useful in making the public believe Clark and Supes are separate people. It's an old comic book trick. :)

EternalTwilight
04-30-2009, 01:50 AM
Pete can be a good supporting character without becoming a crutch for Clark like Chloe became from S5 onwards.

That sounds nice in theory.

However, the reality is this:


That's assuming some good writing of course and good writing is pretty rare on SV.



They are not part of the Superman family and they are doing nothing but taking up valuable time and money where it should be spent on more important stuff like flight, more fleshed out DP and Metropolis, Perry, Dan Turpin, Maggie Sawyer, Intergang, etc.

Unfortunately, that's true. They need to prioritize their budget.

Having the JLA on the show once in a while is fine by me if it doesn't take the time and focus away from Clark. I don't want them to dominate the show's time but I have no problem with seeing a few appearances.