View Full Version : Chloe didn't feed AJ to Doomsday
davidbrenton
04-23-2009, 06:36 PM
I'm thinking, they read our blogs and did a little re-write. Chloe didn't send him down to the basement, Doomsday came up.
---Hmmmmmmm......
redkryptoniteisthebest
04-23-2009, 06:38 PM
Yep, spoilers change. :)
davidbrenton
04-23-2009, 06:48 PM
The climactic scene with Chloe crying and shaking did not make sense given the fact Chloe did not push him down the stairs.
They changed the episode, and it's now incongrous.
Chlois Supporter
04-23-2009, 06:50 PM
The climactic scene with Chloe crying and shaking did not make sense given the fact Chloe did not push him down the stairs.
They changed the episode, and it's now incongrous.
Not really. She's freaked out by the fact that she just had to dump a body into a dumpster in peices, with her hands covered in blood. She's stuck and doesn't know what to do now, hence the crying, and the shaking, and being scared.
Pitbull On A Pantleg
04-23-2009, 07:01 PM
Not really. She's freaked out by the fact that she just had to dump a body into a dumpster in peices, with her hands covered in blood. She's stuck and doesn't know what to do now, hence the crying, and the shaking, and being scared.
It's hard to feel sympathy for her when she walked into the situation with her eyes wide open, and has done nothing to get herself out. How many chances did she have to confess to Clark the huge mistake she'd made, only to keep her mouth shut and not say a word? Chloe deserves what she's got coming to her, in my opinion.
tyson08
04-23-2009, 07:05 PM
I'm glad she didn't "feed" Doomsday, that would be extremely OOC. I think she should be freaked out for having to dump the body into the dumpster.
shamville
04-23-2009, 07:07 PM
Look like she have second throughs liking davis.
moviefan2k4
04-23-2009, 07:15 PM
I was relieved that Chloe didn't willingly point AJ in Doom's direction, but the fact remains that she's still responsible for his death (albeit indirectly). She knows what Davis really is, and has refused (so far) to tell Clark or anyone else about him. She's harboring a violent murderer, and very soon it will bite her in the @$$.
AndiGirl
04-23-2009, 07:21 PM
Yep, once again Ausiello got carried away.
Timester
04-23-2009, 07:23 PM
She's harboring a violent murderer, and very soon it will bite her in the @$$.
Heck, after this night, I pass beyond the "harboring a monster" thing. She dumped human body parts...
green_arrow_girl358
04-23-2009, 07:26 PM
aww but he was only trying to protect her....and the scene still made sense
AndiGirl
04-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Heck, after this night, I pass beyond the "harboring a monster" thing. She dumped human body parts...
I will be the first one to admitt....it isnt looking good for Chloe. :\
But to blame her for the guys death....is ludicrious to me. The guy was about to slit her throat, and Doomy popped up and took care of him.
She didnt kill the guy. Of course if could be argued that he would still be alive if Davis wasnt in her basement. But it can also be argued that she wouldnt be if he wasnt.
VisionGirl
04-23-2009, 07:29 PM
I'm glad they changed that. It felt out of character for her to do that. She's obviously struggling.
Heck, after this night, I pass beyond the "harboring a monster" thing. She dumped human body parts...
She dumped human body parts? What scene was that because I totally blocked it out.
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I'm glad they changed that. It felt out of character for her to do that. She's obviously struggling.
I agree. I don't buy Chloe as a murderer so I'm glad the script was ultimately changed. :)
WickedJenn
04-23-2009, 07:30 PM
I'm glad they changed that. It felt out of character for her to do that. She's obviously struggling.
Agreed. It made no sense to me when I first heard the spoiler.
kp1984
04-23-2009, 07:30 PM
That man had it coming. I'm glad Doomsday killed, not glad that Chole is in this place that she's in. Next week preview make it look like Davis and Chole are about to make love.
AndiGirl
04-23-2009, 07:30 PM
She dumped human body parts? What scene was that because I totally blocked it out.
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I agree. I don't buy Chloe as a murderer so I'm glad the script was ultimately changed. :)
Thats what I'm assuming was in the trash bags.
Vergon6
04-23-2009, 07:31 PM
I am not sure if they changed it based on our reaction. I wouldn't be surprised if Ausiello either Ausiello misinterpreted the information he got, or he got a scoop about an earlier version of the script.
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Agreed. It made no sense to me when I first heard the spoiler.
We can definitely rule out Brainiac re-infection.
moviefan2k4
04-23-2009, 07:35 PM
Next week's preview make it look like Davis and Chole are about to make love.I realy hope that clip was misleading, because the two of them getting that involved would just make me sick, in multiple definitions of the word.
Poyntz
04-23-2009, 07:38 PM
She seems like she wanted to tell both Clark and Lois. But She's obviously scared. Not really for herself but for other people and clark. As far as she knows she's the only one that can keep davis from killing.. She doesn't want Clark Swooping in to try and save the day and end up killed. She's trying to handle it all herself. Obviously its going to blow up in her face but she doesn't seem to know what to do about it now. She was probably scared of putting lois in danger also. I don't think anything she is doing has to do with "liking" Davis.
I must admit the one scene that brought tears to my eyes was the scene with Clark near the end when you know she wanted to tell him but is scared to. And Clark knowing something else is wrong but she isn't opening up. (i was screaming at the scream for him to ask her way she is wearing a scarf and xray it LOL .. who wants to bed next week there will be no scarf and no cut by the way lol)
Doomy getting AJ Seems more like he let the beast out to protect chloe lol.. kind of morbid huh? And why isnt Davis getting rid of the body?
Does chloe really think that a body in a dumpster wont be found? and hiding it behind where you live? DOH!!!! oh boy LOL
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As for the clip for next week. I'm hoping they just took out important parts to make it look juicy. I'm thinking that maybe she says all that stuff to distract him and get him to stay calm.
davidbrenton
04-23-2009, 07:41 PM
We can definitely rule out Brainiac re-infection.
NOOOO!!!! That's what made the original version so great...It wiped out the Brainiac influence theory entirely.
Oh well.
michaelkent
04-23-2009, 08:40 PM
I'm sorry what they are doing to Chloe (she is the only reason I watch Smallville), but IMHO she is hardly being selfish or indifferent to Clark in her actions during this last episode. I submit her behavior makes sense based on the following facts:
1. She knows that Davis was sent to Earth to destroy Clark. She made the right decision to bathe Davis in kryptonite in order to save her friend from being attacked and possibly slain by Doomsday, in spite of Clark's politically correct belief that evil must never be slain. Unfortunately, that is not always the case.
2. When Davis came to her at the end of the last episode, he claimed he was now immortal and that Chloe was the one person who could help him from changing him into the monster. Based on his resurrection and the fact that Chloe's presence kept Davis from turning into Doomsday (thereby saving Jimmy the Geek's worthless hide), it is not surprising that she probably believes him.
3. In spite of speculation from some fans who posted on Kryptonsite.com that Chloe's locking the door to the Talon basement was a suggestion that she started having sex with Davis (the posters were quite possible teenagers who have sex on the brain), there is nothing to suggest that this is the case. In adddition, during tonight's episode she was preparing a big meal for him and not providing him a main course of human flesh, as Auriello suggested.
4. It is not remotely reasonable to blame her for Doomsday's slaughter of the vicious criminal who threatened to kill her. She had no knowledge (nor could she have known) that the bloodthirsty thug would trail her to her apartment. It is Jimmy the Geek, whose sick desire for drugs led him to begin working for and associating with low lifes of Metropolis. It is his picture of Chloe that led to the thug tracking her down at the Talon.
5. It is Jimmy who caused the divorce in their brief marriage due to his whining and neurotic obsession with the other men in Chloe's life. Even when she tried to re-establish communication with him, he rejected her and responded with obscenities. In other words, the person she felt closest to and planned on spending her life with turned on her like a mad dog. I suggest that this series of events would make it difficult for her to trust other people, at this point, with some of the secrets in her life.
6. If she tells Clark about Davis' resurrection, she is undoubtedly afraid that Clark will try to confront him. Since Clark's presence can trigger Davis' transformation into Doomsday, the danger of Clark being killed by Doomsday would once again arise. Is her decision to remain silent free from problems? No, but I submit it is an understandable one.
Black Panda
04-23-2009, 11:18 PM
I must admit the one scene that brought tears to my eyes was the scene with Clark near the end when you know she wanted to tell him but is scared to. And Clark knowing something else is wrong but she isn't opening up.
Yeah that was good.
I was delighted to lose the AJ shove. It was quite arguably self defense the way the spoiler was originally presented, but really it did seem like too much to pile on. I like that it is more clear that she's stuck in a really terrible situation.
Kevin24
04-23-2009, 11:26 PM
I don't know if she is to blame for his death but she did go toward the cellar and tried to open the door. We all know who is down there and I believe Chloe knew what she was doing when she ran in that direction.
I don't think it was her intention to have him killed but she definitely ran there to get protection from Davis.
vikingjedi
04-24-2009, 12:25 AM
Look like she have second throughs liking davis.
She doesn't like Davis, she's trying to save Clark.
LoveHurts38
04-24-2009, 12:30 AM
Next week preview make it look like Davis and Chole are about to make love.
:eek: :eek::eek:
SVFancross
04-24-2009, 12:39 AM
I think they have been playing with edgy and Chloe arc and decided not to push it too far. So for the record:
1) Doomsday does NOT eat people --- Ausiello was joking and their intial plans apparently were changed
2) Chloe did NOT feed the monster --- and yet I'm sure this theory will continue to be propagated
3) Chloe was running for the nearest door -- three feet away was the basement door--- if she was running across the Talon to the basement door that might be a different story. She was trying to escape and her cut on her throat makes it clear she nearly was killed.
4) Chloe is on the edge of a nervous breakdown regarding Davis and Clark knows something is up.
Although I really don't believe fan reaction had anything to do with it, IF there was some response my guess it would be to silence the more extreme positions rather than to placate a fangroup. As I said, they are trying to walk a fine line. That some are seeing Chloe as the villain may make them feel they've pushed the "edgy" bit too far. BUT... my first instinct is that fan reaction had no specific cause & effect.
Storm45
04-24-2009, 12:44 AM
Yep, once again Ausiello got carried away.
He just described what was in the initial script.
friendsita
04-24-2009, 01:17 AM
Now I'm relieved
wafflles87
04-24-2009, 01:18 AM
The climactic scene with Chloe crying and shaking did not make sense given the fact Chloe did not push him down the stairs.
They changed the episode, and it's now incongrous.
She did just throw away a body. In two plastic bags. That would make ME freak out, and I've seen death before.
Sunny8
04-24-2009, 01:08 PM
She seems like she wanted to tell both Clark and Lois. But She's obviously scared. Not really for herself but for other people and clark. As far as she knows she's the only one that can keep davis from killing.. She doesn't want Clark Swooping in to try and save the day and end up killed. She's trying to handle it all herself. Obviously its going to blow up in her face but she doesn't seem to know what to do about it now. She was probably scared of putting lois in danger also. I don't think anything she is doing has to do with "liking" Davis.
ITA
...And why isnt Davis getting rid of the body?
Does chloe really think that a body in a dumpster wont be found? and hiding it behind where you live?
I asked the same thing in another thread. If I were Chloe I wouldn't want my fingerprints on those bags.
I will be the first one to admitt....it isnt looking good for Chloe. :\
But to blame her for the guys death....is ludicrious to me. The guy was about to slit her throat, and Doomy popped up and took care of him.
She didnt kill the guy. Of course if could be argued that he would still be alive if Davis wasnt in her basement. But it can also be argued that she wouldnt be if he wasnt.
I agree!
Fact one: Chloe was about to be killed and Davis in fact saved her life by doing what he did! Could he had done it in a less of a monstrous fashion, yes but that really isn't relevant to this debate!
Fact two: Sence she was about to be killed by the guy, she can't be blamed for his death, nor should she feel guilty sbout it!
Fact three: She should however feel guilty for harboring Davis and lying to everyone about it, most of all Clark! Not to mention the fact that she is in denial about making the wrong choice when chosing to harbor Davis in her basement!
Fact four: Her minor brakedown is hopefully the first step into realising the huge mistake she made!
aceofclubs
04-24-2009, 04:15 PM
I don't know if she is to blame for his death but she did go toward the cellar and tried to open the door. We all know who is down there and I believe Chloe knew what she was doing when she ran in that direction.
I don't think it was her intention to have him killed but she definitely ran there to get protection from Davis.
That's exactly the way I interpreted it. It was quite crazy how fast Davis turned into Doomsday.
Chloe is an accessary to murder, dumping the body....
Davis is just using himself and his "condition" as an excuse to get the girl he loves.....
I still think this story arc is totally out of character for Chloe....
Autumn
04-24-2009, 05:38 PM
Chloe is an accessary to murder, dumping the body....
Davis is just using himself and his "condition" as an excuse to get the girl he loves.....
I still think this story arc is totally out of character for Chloe....
Actually she is an accessory to self defense. I honestly liked this scene. I thought Doomsday saving Chloe was cool. I only wish Davis was in this episode so it would have been him instead. It was actually kind of romantic to me, in a dark gothic kind of way.
And Davis isn't using anyone. Chloe really is his last hope, and all those innocent people's too. I personally want love to triumph. :)
Jaderoyale
04-24-2009, 05:43 PM
I for one am glad she didn't feed AJ to Doomsday tbh.
chlo-el
04-24-2009, 06:10 PM
I don't think they changed the script after fan reaction. I think it was just Ausello's sick sense of humor. He said that Chloe was harboring a fugetive and was feeding him. And she did feed him Lasagna. So there you go.
I never beleived that Chloe would actually willingly be feeding Doomsday anyone that's just sick.
As for Chloe going to the door she just went to the nearest safe spot she could think of. And it shows that she feels safe with Davis.
I think she might have just went in there and locked her self n there until the guy went away.
I think she just felt horrible about this whole situation. Maybe feeling that if she wasn't hiding Davis there that wouldn't happen. But she really did not know what else to do. I think it was shown well with Lois' dialogue about getting in way over her head. And that's what Chloe has done. She's just in way over her head and doesn't know how to get out of it. She wants to tell people but hse just can't not wanting to put anyone else in danger.
Kevin24
04-24-2009, 06:27 PM
I don't think they changed the script after fan reaction. I think it was just Ausello's sick sense of humor. He said that Chloe was harboring a fugetive and was feeding him. And she did feed him Lasagna. So there you go.
I never beleived that Chloe would actually willingly be feeding Doomsday anyone that's just sick.
As for Chloe going to the door she just went to the nearest safe spot she could think of. And it shows that she feels safe with Davis.
I think she might have just went in there and locked her self n there until the guy went away.
I think she just felt horrible about this whole situation. Maybe feeling that if she wasn't hiding Davis there that wouldn't happen. But she really did not know what else to do. I think it was shown well with Lois' dialogue about getting in way over her head. And that's what Chloe has done. She's just in way over her head and doesn't know how to get out of it. She wants to tell people but hse just can't not wanting to put anyone else in danger.
I agree with what you said and it's a bit sickening to believe that she might feel save with that man. I really have no idea why she would.....She did run towards the door so Davis could protect her. I think she is having some sort of mental breakdown...
chlo-el
04-24-2009, 08:25 PM
I agree with what you said and it's a bit sickening to believe that she might feel save with that man. I really have no idea why she would.....She did run towards the door so Davis could protect her. I think she is having some sort of mental breakdown...
I think she feels safe with Davis because she fell for the man before she found out and she's the only one who can stop the transformations that was evident in "Turbulence" and she must have beleived him when he said it in "Eternal".
It doesn't sicken me because I see Chloe falling for Davis the man and I think she really does have the power to save Davis from turning into Doomsday. I really do see the difference between the two.
I think that both Chloe and Davis were put in situations that they were given few options and the options they were given weren't good ones. Putting them both in situation that would make anyone crazy and feel like just falling apart.
Bizarrolover
04-24-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm glad they changed that. It felt out of character for her to do that. She's obviously struggling.
I don't think they changed anything, I think the spoiler was twised to stir the audience. AJ attacked Chloe and Doomsday shreaded him into pieces. On the following day, when Clark came to the aparment, Chloe was cooking for Davis and filling a food container with steaming vegetables. I wonder if she put some meat in that stew ;). Anyway, I think Ausiello mixed both situations and came up with this thing about Chloe serving someone for dinner. It was just a tease.
justme_007
04-24-2009, 09:42 PM
I don't think they changed anything, I think the spoiler was twised to stir the audience. AJ attacked Chloe and Doomsday shreaded him into pieces. On the following day, when Clark came to the aparment, Chloe was cooking for Davis and filling a food container with steaming vegetables. I wonder if she put some meat in that stew ;). Anyway, I think Ausiello mixed both situations and came up with this thing about Chloe serving someone for dinner. It was just a tease.
Yeah.. it was ausiello´s sense of humor
tyson08
04-24-2009, 09:48 PM
Chloe pushing AJ down to the basement was in the original script. There is evidence but it's at an unmentionable website.
justme_007
04-24-2009, 09:52 PM
Chloe pushing AJ down to the basement was in the original script. There is evidence but it's at an unmentionable website.
wELL... THen... the producers had second thoughts and they better did that... because chloe fans will never forgive them that ;)
mjs1973
04-25-2009, 05:36 PM
She's realizing the consequences of her actions. She thought she could be like Clark and try to find some good in Davis and it back fired. There is no doubt that she has put herself in harms way.
Mischael12
04-25-2009, 06:01 PM
I love how people make excuses for Chloe. Fact is she is harboring a crazed monster. Now is she responsible for the guy's death? The answer is yes she has a hand in it, does it mean that in Court she would be held accountable? Yes and No. She should be held accountable for harboring a monster that has committed murders, but wait a minute if Chloe can calm down Davis in Doomsday Mood and what not, why not calm him down before he killed the guy?
SGuthrie27
04-25-2009, 06:03 PM
I, too, was GREATLY relieved that Chloe didn't "feed" the guy to Doomsday. I thought that was one of the most ridiculous, ludicrous spoilers I read, and I was going to be super-mad if it had turned out to be true. Thankfully, they exaggerated things enormously, and that guy just found himself in the wrong place and the wrong time. Chloe didn't call for Davis or anything. He killed that guy all by himself.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
Serynarpc
04-25-2009, 06:13 PM
I have to say, I'm pleased. I was starting to fear Chloe was going to konk Tess over the head and feed her to DD or something.
Chloe's blameless in being attacked- but not for disposing of the body and not telling Clark. Crunchy character development.
Storm45
04-25-2009, 06:24 PM
I don't think they changed anything, I think the spoiler was twised to stir the audience. AJ attacked Chloe and Doomsday shreaded him into pieces. On the following day, when Clark came to the aparment, Chloe was cooking for Davis and filling a food container with steaming vegetables. I wonder if she put some meat in that stew ;). Anyway, I think Ausiello mixed both situations and came up with this thing about Chloe serving someone for dinner. It was just a tease.
Ausiello only exagerated with the word ''feeding''. But the script did say that she deliberately led AJ to Doomsday.
redkryptoniteisthebest
04-25-2009, 11:04 PM
Early spoilers indicated that Chloe would feed that AJ guy to Doomsday. When I read that, I automatically thought of Chloe purposely doing so, but, like a lot of spoilers, there is more to the spoiler than it seems.
I forgot how, but Chloe was attacked by AJ, like we all know. But, it just happened to be in the Talon, near where Davis was hiding. Chloe was cornered and AJ was about to kill her before Doomsday killed him.
So, Chloe accidentally fed AJ to Doomsday. That's my theory, at least.
It was actually more than a spoiler. MOD EDIT But it was obviously cut out. And I'm very happy about that because it was OOC with the character and didn't make any sense.
redkryptoniteisthebest
04-25-2009, 11:10 PM
It was actually more than a spoiler. MOD EDIT But it was obviously cut out. And I'm very happy about that because it was OOC with the character and didn't make any sense.
Oh, I didn't know that.
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