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ChlarkerFan
04-23-2009, 03:55 AM
There tends to be a love/hate relationship with this character and the fans from week to week so I'm wondering after Stiletto if she will have won over more people or lost people!

'Tonio09
04-23-2009, 07:34 PM
Im thinking she's going to loose a few people. She's a god awful mess right now but I still love Chloe and im rooting for her.

WildGoatTamer
04-23-2009, 07:36 PM
Chloe scenes were so sad I felt like crying! AM did great job!

Buddy91
04-23-2009, 07:37 PM
i agree. her character is going downa dark path which she is not yet ready to follow. and that was shown by her breaking down and crying. but if she didnt cry it woulda menat shes ok with what shes doing

Dominicus
04-23-2009, 07:37 PM
I felt bad for her in some parts, pitied what she's gotten herself into. However, she's making a lot of bad decisions. I have to fault her on that, and the next episode doesn't look promising in terms of her character, she going further to the point of possibly no return.

haydenclaireheroes
04-23-2009, 07:43 PM
I love chloe. But in some episodes she annoys me but still in a loving way. The thing is chloe with doomsday arc is pissing me off. I love her because she was clark's side kick and she was so loyal. But how can the writters reck this charecter so much. Last epissode i said finally chloe is back. She took a step foward. But now this episode she took 2 steps back. I loved she was watchtower and that she loved it but now she is complaining. I think chloe went wrong when she lost her powers. She was great she was going in to her own skin but still be with clark and help him. Now she does not even help him anymore and she is with davis. Before her power she was with clark a little to much. But bring chloe and have a power and make her have a cople steps closer to a better chloe. Also mabe she can go back to writing. Dont get me wrong chloe is still my fav charecter but she need change. AND NO MORE DAVIS>

melissan02
04-23-2009, 07:45 PM
She's in over her head. There will be a price to pay for making such bad choices and not telling the two people in the whole world who care the most for her!

haydenclaireheroes
04-23-2009, 07:48 PM
melissa i agree she needs help and i think she should tell someone about what is going on. Either clark or lois.

'Tonio09
04-23-2009, 07:48 PM
I love chloe. But in some episodes she annoys me but still in a loving way. The thing is chloe with doomsday arc is pissing me off. I love her because she was clark's side kick and she was so loyal. But how can the writters reck this charecter so much. Last epissode i said finally chloe is back. She took a step foward. But now this episode she took 2 steps back. I loved she was watchtower and that she loved it but now she is complaining. I think chloe went wrong when she lost her powers. She was great she was going in to her own skin but still be with clark and help him. Now she does not even help him anymore and she is with davis. Before her power she was with clark a little to much. But bring chloe and have a power and make her have a cople steps closer to a better chloe. Also mabe she can go back to writing. Dont get me wrong chloe is still my fav charecter but she need change. AND NO MORE DAVIS>

What I bolded. ITA. Hopefully Chlavis will be no more after this season.

Carolina87
04-23-2009, 07:49 PM
Gosh i feel terrible for Chloe!! I only see doom in her future *no pun intended* she is in deep trouble for just covering davis' back and whats worst is that she feels that she can't even trust her best friend Clark. I'm hoping everything will turn out okay for Chloe :\

haydenclaireheroes
04-23-2009, 07:49 PM
What I bolded. ITA. Hopefully Chlavis will be no more after this season.

he is recking her.

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Gosh i feel terrible for Chloe!! I only see doom in her future *no pun intended* she is in deep trouble for just covering davis' back and whats worst is that she feels that she can't even trust her best friend Clark. I'm hoping everything will turn out okay for Chloe :\

i guess because that is because jimmy ruined her life and she feels she can not trust anyone.

Tebow15
04-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Chloe is ruined. I think she dies by seasons end and at this point good riddance.

melissan02
04-23-2009, 07:54 PM
melissa i agree she needs help and i think she should tell someone about what is going on. Either clark or lois.

Yes! She's certainly intelligent enough to know that! Chloe, dear...what are you doing????????

thehenry89
04-23-2009, 07:54 PM
I think she turned down two chances to save herself at this point there's no way I can't feel sorry for her, just like lana she got herself into this mess.

'Tonio09
04-23-2009, 07:58 PM
he is recking her.

He really is! I have nothing against Davis, but him and Chloe together..ugh.

myankskent
04-23-2009, 07:58 PM
I think that Chloe was nuts in this episode. I really don't know how else to put it.

'Tonio09
04-23-2009, 07:59 PM
Gosh i feel terrible for Chloe!! I only see doom in her future *no pun intended* she is in deep trouble for just covering davis' back and whats worst is that she feels that she can't even trust her best friend Clark. I'm hoping everything will turn out okay for Chloe :\

Me too :(

Ella
04-23-2009, 08:01 PM
Normally I like Chloe but she bored me in this episode. I didn't feel a connection to anything she was going through. Like her last scene with Clark was off to me. And it was sad that she was still lying to him. :(

thehenry89
04-23-2009, 08:01 PM
I think that Chloe was nuts in this episode. I really don't know how else to put it.

How else can you describe taking body parts from your monster boyfriend's dinner to the dumpster? :o

haydenclaireheroes
04-23-2009, 08:02 PM
He really is! I have nothing against Davis, but him and Chloe together..ugh.

i like davis to and in some ways he made the show better. But him and chloe is really bad for chloe's charecter.

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Normally I like Chloe but she bored me in this episode. I didn't feel a connection to anything she was going through. Like her last scene with Clark was off to me. And it was sad that she was still lying to him. :(

ya i felt so much connection last episode but none this episode

Tebow15
04-23-2009, 08:03 PM
Chloe has lost me.

jpfort1957
04-23-2009, 08:06 PM
She's in too deep with noway out!!!!!!!!!

latingirl
04-23-2009, 08:07 PM
Chloe scenes were so sad I felt like crying! AM did great job!

TA.. chloe is suffering.. her face shows her pain and she is alone... I felt sorrow for her...:(

Cyn
04-23-2009, 08:17 PM
I'm not a Chloe fan, but I felt sorry for her in this episode. She has become trapped by her own love and feelings of loyalty. She is trying to protect Davis from himself and Clark from Davis. She is really in a no win situation and just trying not to fall apart completely. I don't know if she is going to die this season or not, but if she doesn't, how do you come back from the path she is walking?

'Tonio09
04-23-2009, 08:17 PM
i like davis to and in some ways he made the show better. But him and chloe is really bad for chloe's charecter.

Agreed.

Lilah
04-23-2009, 08:18 PM
Chloe scenes have become a borefest. So she lost her computer big whoop! Oliver should fire her as Watchtower for dropping the ball like that. I was one of the ones on board with her taking this new career but after tonight, its like just kill her off already!!

Supsfan
04-23-2009, 08:19 PM
I picked don't care one way or another. Chloe hiding Davis/Doomsday is not a storyline of my particular interest to be honest. I would be so much easier if Doomsday either was built in a lab or somehow escaped from the Phantom Zone.

melissan02
04-23-2009, 08:19 PM
TA.. chloe is suffering.. her face shows her pain and she is alone... I felt sorrow for her...:(

She doesn't have to be alone though! She had a husband that truly loved her, but she chose this path and is now suffering the consequences. There were several opportunities for her in this episode to tell Clark the truth, and to tell Lois. Instead, she chose to keep quiet. I do feel for her to a certain degree, but as they say...she's dug her grave,....oh wait, better not use that...just yet!:cool:

SGuthrie27
04-23-2009, 08:28 PM
Loved her, still love her, always will. She's awesome; the heart and soul of the show, and I really felt for her in this episode. Her breakdown at the dumpster, and the way she teared up in her conversation with Clark when he gave her the perfect opening to tell him the truth about Davis... man... that's some seriously tough stuff. Poor Chloe... :(

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

kal-el_Girl
04-23-2009, 08:29 PM
Chloe scenes were so sad I felt like crying! AM did great job!

I totally agree she's so hauted by the choices she's made, it's pretty interestig to watch ;)

haydenclaireheroes
04-23-2009, 08:32 PM
chloe had a very great fan base and i know every fan is mad about what the writters are doing. We need new writers to get this charecter back on track or talk some sense in the writting room of smallville.

susangail
04-23-2009, 08:33 PM
Other -- I felt terribly sorry for her.

melissan02
04-23-2009, 08:33 PM
I totally agree she's so hauted by the choices she's made, it's pretty interestig to watch ;)
That's usually what happens when you've made the wrong choices...you're haunted by them.
Agree with you though, it is interesting to watch.

Dyanara
04-23-2009, 08:36 PM
I didnt care either way...I didnt care so much that I FF through most of her scenes if Clark wasnt in them

Night_Hawk90
04-23-2009, 08:37 PM
i dont care about chloe one way or another so i feel nothing for her character

zorasuperman
04-23-2009, 08:38 PM
That's usually what happens when you've made the wrong choices...you're haunted by them.
Agree with you though, it is interesting to watch.




very true indeed you can be haunted by the wrong choices you have made in life:(

vikingjedi
04-23-2009, 09:23 PM
She's awesome. Chloe is trying to save Clark's life and she can't tell anybody.

Mrs. Superman
04-23-2009, 09:25 PM
I usually love Chloe, but I was hoping shed open up to Clark or Lois. I still have love for her, but I mainly just felt really bad for her throughout this episode. Shes living a nightmare and shes wondering how she got stuck in it. I hope she gets out of this situation, but it doesnt seem likely next week.

malft
04-23-2009, 09:26 PM
I thought the whole idea of Doomsday as Davis' alter ego was a bust. Now they make a complete mess out of Chloe for the sake of this horrible storyline. Not the way to treat a character you've nurtured for 7 years. It's time to man up and kill her off or rescue her but, don't leave her flapping in the wind.

BadToad
04-23-2009, 09:35 PM
I voted "other", because mostly I felt terrible for Chloe in this episode, but I also want to shake her, because I think she's making terrible decisions. I can understand where she is coming from, but her actions just don't seem very Chloe-like to me. But I really felt bad for her, because she's just falling apart.

Clana4Life
04-23-2009, 09:39 PM
I still think Chloe is a great character. To me she was the best part of this episode, which otherwise felt like a big filler. I kept wanting to get back to the Chloe scenes. I guess I fall under the "love her" category. Chloe baking a casserole for Davis all the while being this close to breaking down in tears. Pretty hard to hate her. I both like and feel sorry for her character.

topping82
04-23-2009, 09:40 PM
I love Chloe in the episode. I think some people look for reasons to hate her. I love how the whole "feeding" Doomsday thing got blown out of proportion. She didn't even push the guy.

Well anyway, Chloe is trying to do what she thinks is best. But it's a huge burden having to carry that kind of secret and it's taking its toll. Not to mention she's had a really crappy year.

I think we're supposed to feel sorry for her and Davis. They're both kind of in a crappy position. And no doubt, if Davis wasn't so doomed, Chloe and Davis would make a really great couple who would make each other really happy!

It's all just very sad. I thought it was interesting that they compared Clark saving Lois to Davis/Doomsday saving Chloe. Destiny vs. Doom. Actually Dooms saving Chloe reminded me of the scene in Moonlight, when Mick killed the guy who had a knife on Beth. It brought out his inner vampire! :) Isn't it cute that the Beast doesn't hurt Chloe? He was protecting her. ;) It endeared me to Dooms.

I find it ironic that the two people (Chloe and Davis) who have worked their butts off to be good and help people and have a great career (a journalist and paramedic) are the ones who get a "doomed" destiny. And the two (Lois and Clark) who never really worked to get where they are (they had it handed to them because of their "destiny." Let's face it, Lois has never gone to college and didn't even have to work hard to get offered a job at the DP; and all Clark had to do was file an application), will be the ones who get a happy ending and some great "destiny." And no, I'm not trying to insult any character. I'm just saying. It's ironic.

I thought Allison Mack did a great job in the episode. Chloe is probably the most layered, deep character on the show. Chloe has so many different sides to her. But all sides that make sense.

No doubt she cares for Davis, and she cares very much for Clark as well as Lois. But she feels she needs to lie to protect everyone! And it's killing her inside. She has a huge burden. I'm sure Davis will be feeling some guilt over it (Chloe having this burden because of him) in future episodes.

Clana4Life
04-23-2009, 09:41 PM
She's awesome. Chloe is trying to save Clark's life and she can't tell anybody.

I think the trailer showed us that the reason you mentioned is not the only reason she's doing what she's doing.

ginnyfan
04-23-2009, 09:43 PM
I loved her and my heart hurt with dread for her. So I voted other. Allison Mack did a great job. Chloe did a whole range of things in this episode. She had fun buddy time with Clark. She had the strained lying to Clark scenes and that emotional last scene where she almost breaks down. She had some lighthearted moments with Lois as well as the moment where it seemed like she was almost going to tell her about Davis. And then she had her alone, tortured moments. It was a good episode for seeing from Chloe's POV and how her choice to help Doomsday has isolated her.

Crouching Lurker
04-23-2009, 09:50 PM
I voted 'Other', I don't love or hate her. I'm disappointed in her more than anything else. She's continuing to make bad decisions and getting in deeper and deeper. But, I don't feel sorry for her, she's making her own bed.

chloesmygirl
04-23-2009, 09:52 PM
I think the trailer showed us that the reason you mentioned is not the only reason she's doing what she's doing.

Your right about that, she has some very strong feelings for Davis It's obvious after seeing that trailer. Man I love Chloe but this is not going to end well for her I'm afraid.

drew24
04-23-2009, 09:52 PM
Feel bad for her, it's all I can say.

Diego*Chloe
04-23-2009, 09:56 PM
I think is kind of bad writing how can the most intelectual character of the show is making bad descisions? I will always love Chloe! :)

darkphoenix21
04-23-2009, 09:57 PM
Chloe is just trying to save everyone from Doomsday (especially Clark)

Pitbull On A Pantleg
04-23-2009, 10:12 PM
I have lost all respect for Chloe's character. One could have made the argument after Eternal that Chloe couldn't get away from Davis and that's why she stayed in the basement. But, tonight she had a ton of chances to tell Clark what she'd done, she even had a chance to tell Lois, and she just kept lying to them.

She's harboring Davis, a psychopathic killer, in the basement of the Talon, when Lois is still living there, putting Lois's life in danger every time she's in the apartment. (Just like she did with Jimmy and Lois when she was infected by Brainiac and having blackouts when he took over; I'm sensing a pattern.)

And, not only is she stupid enough to put sensitive info about the JL on her laptop and carry it with her, she leaves it in her car where it's stolen and expects Clark to clean up her mess.

And, she doesn't have the sense when hiding the body to dump the garbage bag in a dumpster that isn't sitting right outside the Talon's back door. When it's found, and it will be, it'll be traced back to the Talon and the people who live there (Chloe's screwing with Lois's life yet again; I'm not getting a big feeling of cousinly love here)

After tonight, they could have Chloe praised by a chorus of angels, and I'd still hate her.

SVFancross
04-23-2009, 10:24 PM
Chloe is really in over her head. It was nice of her to not judge Lois.

I think this was a Chlo-Lo parallel episode.

Both made mistakes. Clearly Lois (who is not part of the Krypto-universe club) made a more "normal" mistake but she had her self-recrimination moment over putting Jimmy, Clark (and Chloe, although Lois doesn't know it) lives in danger. Chloe is having her self-recrimination moments but she can't solve her problem by simply stopping what she is doing. Chloe's problem, unlike Lois', was not one of her own choosing IMO. Chloe is trying to save Davis, save Clark & thus save the world. She didn't ASK to be put in this position and she certainly is not attempting any personal gain from it either. But since Chloe was boxed in by this conundrum, she still hasn't figured out a way to make her nightmare end. All Lois had to do was hang up the stilletto heels.

Still, I find the "she should pay for her mistakes!" was NOT the message the show was giving. The show's message IMO was: we all get in over our head sometimes, it's nice when loved ones are supportive when that happens. I think even Clark, who firmly told Lois she had to stop, made a point of being non-judgemental after the fact and comforted Lois who was feeling bad for her mistake.

And no, telling Lois was not an option for Chlole because:
1) It opens the whole Krypto-secret mess and Chloe would die before telling Clark's secret (as she's proven time and time again). Really, what is she going to say? An immortal alien monster is living in my basement because I calm him down and this way he won't kill the other Kryptonian named Clark Kent?
2) Telling Lois would likely put her in danger (which is also why Chloe was hustling her out of the building).

Telling Clark is STILL not an option as she clearly thinks the ultimate destroyer would kill him. I see no evidence to suggest that Clark can best Doomsday. At a minimum, Chloe knows Davis saw Clark is susceptible to Kryptonite and folds like a deck of cards when he's near it (as demonstrated again tonight). Davis is now immune.

She's in a bind. Her only option is to take Davis away from all people and go live out in the wilderness. Sucky life but it's either that or have MORE blood on her hands (which clearly is about to cause a nervous breakdown).

Fallen One
04-23-2009, 10:35 PM
I felt sorry for the dumpster.

SpiritedDiva
04-23-2009, 10:36 PM
I know myself, that I wanted to hug Chloe and slap her at the same time.
She is an emotional reck. She needs Clark and the people she loves right now, but in true Chloe fashion she is pushing Clark away when she needs him most.
Anyway, Chloe will get through this, she is strong. Though, it will probably take years of counseling.:p

Oh, I also like that Clark was showing concern over Chloe. It is very refreshing considering his lack of being there for her the last few episodes.

borednow
04-23-2009, 10:37 PM
The Chlo-Lo was nice, I feel... I'm disappointed in her choice still, I'm glade she looked freaked out, Davis is a monster... Period. The previews for the next episode don't seem to indicate that she has learned her lesson though. :(

WickedJenn
04-23-2009, 10:59 PM
Chloe is really in over her head. It was nice of her to not judge Lois.

I think this was a Chlo-Lo parallel episode.

Both made mistakes. Clearly Lois (who is not part of the Krypto-universe club) made a more "normal" mistake but she had her self-recrimination moment over putting Jimmy, Clark (and Chloe, although Lois doesn't know it) lives in danger. Chloe is having her self-recrimination moments but she can't solve her problem by simply stopping what she is doing. Chloe's problem, unlike Lois', was not one of her own choosing IMO. Chloe is trying to save Davis, save Clark & thus save the world. She didn't ASK to be put in this position and she certainly is not attempting any personal gain from it either. But since Chloe was boxed in by this conundrum, she still hasn't figured out a way to make her nightmare end. All Lois had to do was hang up the stilletto heels.

Still, I find the "she should pay for her mistakes!" was NOT the message the show was giving. The show's message IMO was: we all get in over our head sometimes, it's nice when loved ones are supportive when that happens. I think even Clark, who firmly told Lois she had to stop, made a point of being non-judgemental after the fact and comforted Lois who was feeling bad for her mistake.

And no, telling Lois was not an option for Chlole because:
1) It opens the whole Krypto-secret mess and Chloe would die before telling Clark's secret (as she's proven time and time again). Really, what is she going to say? An immortal alien monster is living in my basement because I calm him down and this way he won't kill the other Kryptonian named Clark Kent?
2) Telling Lois would likely put her in danger (which is also why Chloe was hustling her out of the building).

Telling Clark is STILL not an option as she clearly thinks the ultimate destroyer would kill him. I see no evidence to suggest that Clark can best Doomsday. At a minimum, Chloe knows Davis saw Clark is susceptible to Kryptonite and folds like a deck of cards when he's near it (as demonstrated again tonight). Davis is now immune.

She's in a bind. Her only option is to take Davis away from all people and go live out in the wilderness. Sucky life but it's either that or have MORE blood on her hands (which clearly is about to cause a nervous breakdown).

I agree with some of this, it was a bit of what I felt too, especially the bold part.

However, I still think Chloe did make a choice herself to keep Davis, but I won't deny that he sure made it hard for her to say no.

I will say yes, it was easier for Lois to fix her mistake in this episode, Chloe's struggle is definitely coming to a head, and without getting into too much detail, the next two episodes are going to really get deeper into it judging by the trailer which will show what "side" for lack of a better word, she'll be adhering to. Though, in "Eternal" she was willing to "kill" Davis for Clark, so I'd like to think she's doing this to keep Davis away from Clark as well as from killing other people, er well, as little people as possible (AJ).

What I did think of, while watching her trying to keep the Davis-in-the-basement a secret and struggle with that fact in front of both Clark and Lois, was that all this started with Isis and her wanting to help the meteor-infected. Davis is an extreme case and though not meteor-infected, still someone Chloe wants to help, but I don't think she realized what she was getting into when she agreed. Allison played that dumpster scene beautifully, plus I liked the camera pan up and back. She also did well with Chloe's struggle not to tell Clark, it tore her up.

Man, they weren't kidding when they said Chloe would have a darker plot this season.

Oh, I wanted to add to that I'm glad she didn't "feed" AJ to Doomy, Ausiello did not word that right, that's for sure. That to me would have been OOC for Chloe.

Violet-Shadow
04-23-2009, 11:00 PM
I don't love Chloe or hate her - I have never loved her or hated her. Most of the time I just feel *meh* about her (except for in certain Chimmy scenes...) But, for this episode, I just felt sad for her...


The Chlo-Lo was nice, I feel... I'm disappointed in her choice still, I'm glade she looked freaked out, Davis is a monster... Period. The previews for the next episode don't seem to indicate that she has learned her lesson though. :(

I'm glad she broke down too. Yes, next week's previews were disheartening. :(

Black Panda
04-23-2009, 11:03 PM
She's in over her head. There will be a price to pay for making such bad choices and not telling the two people in the whole world who care the most for her!
Her and Lois both. Hello Action meta. It seems to like Lois better, what with all the guns, the stand up references etc. But Chloe got her reference too.


Chloe is having her self-recrimination moments but she can't solve her problem by simply stopping what she is doing. Chloe's problem, unlike Lois', was not one of her own choosing IMO. Chloe is trying to save Davis, save Clark & thus save the world. She didn't ASK to be put in this position and she certainly is not attempting any personal gain from it either. But since Chloe was boxed in by this conundrum, she still hasn't figured out a way to make her nightmare end.
I keep hoping she will decide she can indeed go to Clark with this without expecting him to do something less than Super-Intellectual about this. I do hope they explain this better than a marytr complex.

miks
04-23-2009, 11:04 PM
I love Chloe and will always love her. She's making bad decisions but they are the only decisions she can make right now. She knows Dooms is unstoppable, she knows Clark will rush head first into thing, she knows Clark won't try to fight him at first, she knows Dooms will just kill Clark and he won't want to talk things through; there is no rescuing him from Dooms. So she's doing the only thing she can; she's staying with him and doing whatever he asks of her to keep Clark and everyone else safe. It's not smart but it's the right thing to do. If she goes to Clark he's going to go straight to Dooms. She doesn't want to see him hurt. And if Clark is dead, who will protect the world then? I think she's biding her time until she can figure out a way for Clark to stop him, then she'll tell him. In fact, I don't even think it's a dumb decision. It's a good decision considering the options she has, which are none.

CreamPuffer
04-23-2009, 11:12 PM
The girl is stuck in a really bad situation. First of all, you have this immortal beast who can not be kill going after her best friend. This beast also happens to be a friend who is actually a really nice and decent guy but it unable to control the beast. The friend she cares for tells her he needs her and on top of that she is the only one who is able to help him control it. What would you have done? Turned your back? Also remember that being with Davis in return also keeps him from killing her best friend. What the hell is she supposed to do? If she tells, Clark there will be a fight and Clark can die.

She already proved her loyalty to Clark by killing Davis when she though he was going to attack Clark. On top of that she had lied, killed, etc.. for Clark before?

and "yes" she might actually have feeling for Davis and so what? He's actually a good guy and has been doing the best that he could. It's not his fault he has this beast inside him and all he truly want is to be normal and to be with Chloe. The only chance he has right now is her and why should she turn her back on him if she has feelings for him?

Anyway, I don't think she's been making bad decision. She's been doing her best considering what she has to deal with.:p

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I have lost all respect for Chloe's character. One could have made the argument after Eternal that Chloe couldn't get away from Davis and that's why she stayed in the basement. But, tonight she had a ton of chances to tell Clark what she'd done, she even had a chance to tell Lois, and she just kept lying to them.

She's harboring Davis, a psychopathic killer, in the basement of the Talon, when Lois is still living there, putting Lois's life in danger every time she's in the apartment. (Just like she did with Jimmy and Lois when she was infected by Brainiac and having blackouts when he took over; I'm sensing a pattern.)




and tell Clark what? That the immortal beast is living in the basement so that Clark could run over there and get his ass killed. Get real. She couldn't tell him because if she did there would have been a fight and there is a really good chance that Clark would be killed. She's trying to protect Clark and Davis. The best way for her to do that now is to stay with Davis so that he can contain the beast and keep Clark safe. As far as telling Lois, are you kidding me? :lol: What exactly would Lois do? Beat him with her heel. That would only put Lois in harms way. Also Lois doesn't live there anymore.

Kschreck
04-23-2009, 11:53 PM
For the most part I liked her and everyone was all worried that Chloe was actually going to feed Doomsday someone and of course it didn't actually happen. Chloe did well this epsiode and I have confidence in her in the next episode.

SuperheroFan87
04-24-2009, 12:42 AM
The scene where she was throwing out the bags with the body parts was eerie and unnerving and the final scene with her baking for Davis was also a bit unnerving. Alison Mack did a great job tonight! I still love Chloe even though I know where she's probably headed.:)

IHeartClois
04-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Felt kinda bad for her, she was so stressed and is obviously feeling terrible about betraying Clark.

friendsita
04-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Love her no matter what.

devilneedsaride
04-24-2009, 01:15 AM
I... have just thrown in the towel on her character. The people who write this show are just not good at taking main characters down a dark path without making them completely unsympathetic. They did all right with Lex, and they're doing all right with Doomsday, but they need to stop writing our heroes the same way they write our villains. They tried it with Lana and she came off as crazy and duplicitous. Now they're trying it with Chloe and, in my opinion, she's coming off as stupid and morally questionable at best.

I have always loved Chloe. She has always been one of my favorite characters, and I've been rather desperately trying to defend her so far this season in the hopes that the writers will chose to redeem her. As of this episode, I'm done. As far as I'm concerned, the Chloe I was a fan of died at the end of season 7, and this new Chloe is an imposter. I'm just going to enjoy the old episodes in which she's great and ignore her as much as possible in the new ones. Like I told my friend earlier, they've Lana'd her.

Clark/Lois-fan
04-24-2009, 05:01 AM
I think she was blah to be fairly honest

-Nora-
04-24-2009, 05:04 AM
I felt bad for her in some parts, pitied what she's gotten herself into. However, she's making a lot of bad decisions. I have to fault her on that

Yeah that's pretty much where I'm at. AM absolutely made me feel for Chloe, but damn girl, he's Doomsday! Stay away for your own good! :(

individuall
04-24-2009, 05:07 AM
I felt so bad for Chloe! I mean I can see where she's coming from-she's just making the wrong choices for the right reasons..I know she has good intentions..But you know what they say, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" :(

But I really felt for Chloe this eppy. Poor thing!

costas22
04-24-2009, 06:41 AM
The writers' inability to come up with a better arc for her, won't change my mind about her. I felt bad for her especially in the dumpster scene. Allison can rock any material you give to her. Top actress.

Tebow15
04-24-2009, 06:46 AM
Chloe is dead to me and her death can't come soon enough now.

Billy Jor-El
04-24-2009, 09:07 AM
I totally love her, and yes, she is getting into a dark path beyond her wildest dreams. I'm not a fan of Chlavis, but let's see how it moves the storyline along. I can't disagree that she's getting distant from Clark by keeping secrets fro him now. Face it, he's more or less been using her. BFF? Dang, who needs him for that? Where's the compassion towards her (though his reaction to her leaving as shown in the teaser for next week gets a rise out of him; it takes danger to Chloe for Clark to admit he really feels something for her). Anyway, like it or not, she knows she has to move on, just that the path she's on is very, very dangerous.

And moving away from Chloe and on to AM.....SHE ROCKS!!!! Allison has such expressive eyes, conveys the role beautifully, is an awesome actress (and director, I hope to see her name on that credit again soon). TPTB must rot in Tarteus should they do permanent harm to her character, but no matter what I look so forward to seeing Allison in other roles and projects long after we bid goodbye to SV.

Tebow15
04-24-2009, 09:09 AM
I miss the OLD Chloe.

mr lane
04-24-2009, 09:11 AM
Yes! She's certainly intelligent enough to know that! Chloe, dear...what are you doing????????

it makes me sad =/

i put up a good fight to defend chloe and her locking the door in Eternal but she doesn't seem to be helping in proving me right

i had hoped she would tell clark about Davis in this episode but instead she brushes clark away

when she was having her scene with lois at the talon i kept saying "just tell her chloe!" cause you knew she wanted to but then she didn't

AND THEN she goes taking out Davis' trash....

tsk tsk tsk

Smallville Vamp
04-24-2009, 09:14 AM
TBH, I can't stand her character anymore.

Minela
04-24-2009, 09:21 AM
Loved her. I'm digging this sexy dungeon mistress thing. She is obviously in a lot of pain and is struggling with her actions. She even tried to confide in Lois and Clark but couldn't bring herself to do it. I feel for her. A lot. She has nobody she can confide in right now. She is very conflicted. On one hand she loves Davis and wants to keep him and Clark safe and the only way she can do it is by staying with him, and on the other hand it's so very dangerous and morally objectionable and she has to lie about it. I really feel for her and hope she'll be redeemed when Clark kicks Doomy's ass.

But for now, I'm just enjoying the story-line and AM's amazing acting.

chlo-el
04-24-2009, 09:22 AM
I loved Chloe as usual. But in this I just felt soooo bad for her. AM did an amazing job. And I like that for once people are actually asking Chloe how she is doing? And they are actually seeing that Chloe is having a hard time. Her perfect fake smiles and putting on a happy face is drifting which I think had to happen sooner or later you only can fake smiles for so long.

They really showed Chloe's inner struggle so well. She really wanted to tell someone and she was really feeling the guilt of the consequences. and yet she just couldn't because she's trying to protect everyone. She really is put in a doomed situation. (no pun intended) What ever choice she made would lead to Doom it was just the matter of controlling how much. Silimar to choices Davis had to make which weren't much of choices either. The scene where Chloe falls to ground looking at the blood on her hands was so reminsit of Davis scenes finding out the blood on his body was someons elses.

I think the show has done an excellent job of showing just how tragic both characters are. I both love it and hate it at the same time. Because I hate the idea of saying someone just doomed it doesn't matter what they want it doesn't matter how hard they try their just doomed and there's nothing you can do about it. But it's like a car wreck you just can't look away. And it is soooo tragically beautiful to see two people try so hard even though their doomed.

luthorian
04-24-2009, 09:25 AM
LOVE HER! Chloe's storyline all together is the most interesting one Smallville has ever had. I wouldn't even watch the episode without her.

mr lane
04-24-2009, 09:28 AM
LOVE HER! Chloe's storyline all together is the most interesting one Smallville has ever had. I wouldn't even watch the episode without her.

even though it makes me sad i cant help but agree

Chloe's character always seems on the back burner or meant to be the ray of sunshine in Clark's cloudy days

but now we get to see when the sun is turned off and we're left with a dark arc for a loveable character

SnowBird
04-24-2009, 09:37 AM
Allison did a great job with making Chloe a tortured soul caught between a rock and a hard place. I know she has brought a lot of this on herself but I can't help but feel sorry for her. It's not looking good for her future and it is going to take a miracle for her to redeem herself but miracles do happen.

Guidron
04-24-2009, 10:01 AM
It's hard to say what's going on with Chloe right now. She's making a lot of bad decisions, but I think she believes she's making them for a good reason. The only reason that she's harboring Davis in the first place is because she believes by doing so she is protecting Clark. She definitely has herself in over her head right now however.

I have to give kudos to AM though, she is pulling the character off perfectly right now.

jaime,oburg
04-24-2009, 10:12 AM
We've been here before. The writers are revisiting pretty much the scenerio where Lana "had" to marry Lex in order to save Clark. Chloe has proven how much she loves Clark and has proclaimed she would die to protect him. This is just another version of storyline of sacrificing yourself for the person you love. Recalling also Clark breaking up with Lana to her devastation/downward spiral because he only wanted to "protect" her.
True motivation being love and concern for one's welfare.
How far would you go? Well, taking mangeled body parts out to the dumpster sure quilifies. AM nailed Chloe's reaction of hesitation and conflict perfectly.

The twist here is both Clark and Chloe have shown they very much do feel sorry for what kind of life Davis was forced to live. Becoming a medic, trying to fight his destructive destiny, ultimately choosing suicide rather then go on killing.

Clark advised Chloe that there is always another way even when she felt it was necessary to kill Davis to protect Clark. What Chloe is doing now is really trying to put into practice the morals Clark tries to uphold. Her actions are not without reflection, we see the conflict on the characters face everytime she feels it necessary to cover up or lie.

Clark asked Davis if there was something worth persevering for? There is. Chloe. Davis became stronger with the K he informs Chloe he is immortal. Being immortal, invincible and destined to kill your best friend leads Chloe to make the decisions that are playing out the drama. I am enjoying the season 8 arc.

amalie
04-24-2009, 10:22 AM
In the DD plot I didn't hate or love her. Part of me felt sorry for her but I was also frustrated that she chose to keep things from Clark.

As for taking sensitive information home on her laptop with little security, well Clark's face summed that up when he found out. Disappointed.

harryandginnyfanatic
04-24-2009, 10:23 AM
I was a little annoyed that she didn't come clean.

I mean, honestly! How hard is it to just say "I'm harbouring the creature that's going to kill you. How was your day?"

mr lane
04-24-2009, 10:26 AM
How hard is it to just say "I'm harbouring the creature that's going to kill you. How was your day?"

and if you cant verbally say it thats what FACEBOOK is for

:lol:

mood: clark im harbouring you're greatest enemy - updated 2 minutes ago

harryandginnyfanatic
04-24-2009, 10:28 AM
and if you cant verbally say it thats what FACEBOOK is for

:lol:

mood: clark im harbouring you're greatest enemy - updated 2 minutes ago

:rotfl:

Sunny8
04-24-2009, 10:31 AM
I voted other. I think Chloe feels trapped. She wants to tell Clark about Davis but she is afraid he (Clark) will get killed. Also, I think she is horrified by seeing Davis as the beast first hand and knowing that he murdered someone. I feel sorry for her because she knows that Davis would kill Clark if she was not stopping him from doing so.

Mickey_Bickey
04-24-2009, 10:33 AM
Very disappointed in Chloe in this episode. She's lying and betraying her best friend! It may have grave consequences for all involved.

Bizarrolover
04-24-2009, 10:56 AM
I voted other. I think Chloe feels trapped. She wants to tell Clark about Davis but she is afraid he (Clark) will get killed. Also, I think she is horrified by seeing Davis as the beast first hand and knowing that he murdered someone. I feel sorry for her because she knows that Davis would kill Clark if she was not stopping him from doing so.


I agree. I think your description is perfect. Chloe feels trapped and when people feel trapped, they tend to do even more stupid things. I posted this in the loved it/hated it thread and her situation reminds me of the movie A Simple Plan. She made a huge mistake and she's making even greater mistakes to justify the first one. Poor Chloe.

jaime,oburg
04-24-2009, 01:23 PM
I was a little annoyed that she didn't come clean.

I mean, honestly! How hard is it to just say "I'm harbouring the creature that's going to kill you. How was your day?"


Yeah, I mean that's the part that seems ooc. As the audience watching this show for 8 years we've come to understand the motivation that drives the characters on this show to make the kinds of decisions they make all the time in the name of protecting the one you love, as I previously posted.
But the reasons for Chloe not including Clark on the whole stragery of trying to keep the beast under control with her calming influence over Davis (who is now immortal and invincible after his K exposure) can be summed up to two ideas or reasons.
1) Clark would never allow Chloe to put herself in harms way for the sake of protecting him. He never go for it and more importantly......
2)What kind of build up would we be left with leading up to the finale;)

Fly by guy
04-24-2009, 01:35 PM
This Chloe storyline is so season 5 for Lana. I didn't think the writers could stink it up any more than they did with having Clana ready to marry and BLINK and Lana is in love with Lex. Now we get Committed and Bride to show what a perfect couple Chimmy is and suddenly there're divorced(?) and she has a serious thing for Davis even knowing he's a killer.
I would not have believed they could have made any character dumber than they wrote Lana in season 5 but Season 8 Chloe gives her a run for the dunce cap.
This season's Chloe get one big Red Forman "Dumbass".
If Chloe does die in the season finale, it would be called a mercy killing, no pun to Tess intended.

Jedimaster_TTBaby
04-24-2009, 01:39 PM
Chloe needs some time to herself right about now. She's always getting hounded down by all these people!

rajman
04-24-2009, 01:52 PM
i feel for chloe, nothing in her life has turned out like how she wanted it to, shes a lost soul who needs someone to just hold her. shes confused, shes not thinking straight with the doomsday situatuation because davis is taking care of her and thats what she wanted and shes hasn't had that in her life in such a pure form.

chlo-el
04-24-2009, 02:12 PM
i feel for chloe, nothing in her life has turned out like how she wanted it to, shes a lost soul who needs someone to just hold her. shes confused, shes not thinking straight with the doomsday situatuation because davis is taking care of her and thats what she wanted and shes hasn't had that in her life in such a pure form.

So much word. Really well put.

I like your avi btw.

Jaderoyale
04-24-2009, 02:33 PM
I felt SO sorry for her.
AM really sold how torn Chloe was and how in over her head she is. I really felt for her when she was dumping the junk Doomsday had left behind.

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I was a little annoyed that she didn't come clean.

I mean, honestly! How hard is it to just say "I'm harbouring the creature that's going to kill you. How was your day?"

:lol:

Your avitar has made me extremley excited.

marcella
04-24-2009, 02:55 PM
Didn't love or hate her

Autumn
04-24-2009, 05:42 PM
I loved her!! She was great in this episode. I love watching 3-dimensional characters.

Joelito
04-24-2009, 05:55 PM
I think Chloe character is changing...
For example: Why would she cry in the back of her apartment...she knows the monster Davis is...
I don't understand...

LovelyLoisLane
04-24-2009, 06:05 PM
I voted 'other'

I still like her, but I just feel so terrible about this path she is on, I want to shake her, I want to rescue her.

I just felt so bad for her in tonight's episode, especially where she broke down and cried after disposing of Doomsday's leftovers.

:(

Billy Jor-El
04-24-2009, 06:06 PM
I think Chloe character is changing...
For example: Why would she cry in the back of her apartment...she knows the monster Davis is...
I don't understand...

Perhaps that's a good part of it; she doesn't understand, either. She KNOWS the danger DD/Davis is to Clark and anyone that gets in her way, yet she remains drawn to him. She's trying to come to grips with it, but it's getting deeper and deeper.

Jump into it right after Jimmy and a divorce (though probably an annulment after such a short wedded time)? I don't think she was ever in love with Jimmy, he was a rebound for the fact that Clark never felt the same towards her. Jimmy acted as if he felt love towards her, and well, she has been very emotionally vulnerable (happy smile or not).

Serynarpc
04-25-2009, 01:23 AM
'Perhaps that's a good part of it; she doesn't understand, either. She KNOWS the danger DD/Davis is to Clark and anyone that gets in her way, yet she remains drawn to him. She's trying to come to grips with it, but it's getting deeper and deeper.'

I completely agree with you.

Chloe is seriously deep in cognitive dissonance right now. She knows that covering up for Davis is wrong and its taking a major toll on her emotionally, but she just can't bring herself to turn him in. Lois' 'over your head' comment found its mark in her heart. She should tell Clark. She should have told him at the beginning, in every scene and especially when he tried to reach her. No doubt she's replaying the conversation differently in her head, but I fear this is going to cause a major rift in the best friend dynamic.

Its one thing to confess 'He says if I'm with him he won't destroy you' when you're tearfully confiding, another when your best friend who can hear through walls catches you with his nemesis. Clark won't be in the listening mood then and I hate to see Clark and Chloe fight.

That said, I adore vulnerable Davis. I can see why Chloe can't turn him down and why she feels guilty because he was protecting her. I would have loved to have seen Chlavis in any way but this- but making Chloe dispose of mutilated bodies is in no way warming me up to next weeks preview- which probably is all a dream/nightmare of Chloe's anyway. They always tease us.

Minamostaza
04-25-2009, 07:25 AM
Loved her! I always will, no matter what, she's my favorite character ever. Everu little thing she's doing is part of her journey, we don't know what her future is, or what her destiny is since she is not a character from the Super mythology, but that's why I love her, bad or good Chloe Sullivan always surprise me, I'm not saying all she's doing is right but it's part of what makes her special for me, she is getting through a difficult, coņplicate moment of her life. Anyway I love her.

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I loved her!! She was great in this episode. I love watching 3-dimensional characters.

With you! ;)

Bizarrolover
04-25-2009, 07:29 AM
Chloe is seriously deep in cognitive dissonance right now. She knows that covering up for Davis is wrong and its taking a major toll on her emotionally, but she just can't bring herself to turn him in. Lois' 'over your head' comment found its mark in her heart. She should tell Clark. She should have told him at the beginning, in every scene and especially when he tried to reach her. No doubt she's replaying the conversation differently in her head, but I fear this is going to cause a major rift in the best friend dynamic.

Chloe is under such pressure that she's doing things that she'll never otherwise do. Davis is constantly demanding her presence by his side and that's consuming her. She put the identity of entire Justice league in danger because her mind is not where it's supposed to be. She's the watchtower, for heaven's sake! One word of this to Oliver and she'd have an entire team of superheroes doing what should have been done from the very beginning. The worst part is that she knows that this will lead nowhere and yet she can't bring herself to do the right thing.

wingster55
04-25-2009, 10:38 AM
One word of this to Oliver and she'd have an entire team of superheroes doing what should have been done from the very beginning.

What would they do? If they confront Davis he'll definetly turn to Doomsday and they can't stop him. I'm betting Chloe has thought of this already.
It isn't like keeping Lex or someone else that the J.L can beat.

SGuthrie27
04-25-2009, 10:39 AM
Chloe certainly has found herself between a rock (or bone-protrusion covered baddie) and a hard place (or a Man of Steel). I don't think she knows who to turn to or what to do, even though you're right, Bizarrolover in that she could easily call in the entire Justice League to assist her. Still, I think she's fearful of what would happen if she tried to get any backup or reinforcements. I imagine she still thinks she's doing what she's doing in the name of protecting Clark and everyone else, but after what happened to Mannheim's goon, she's even more conflicted. I feel so sorry for her!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

smallvillefreak24
04-25-2009, 12:58 PM
R U KIDDING? CHloe kicked $$$ this episode, i thought she was great= i felt her falling apart, she's in over her head and doesn't know how to get out

Inkpen23
04-25-2009, 01:06 PM
I love Chloe in the episode. I think some people look for reasons to hate her. I love how the whole "feeding" Doomsday thing got blown out of proportion. She didn't even push the guy.

Well anyway, Chloe is trying to do what she thinks is best. But it's a huge burden having to carry that kind of secret and it's taking its toll. Not to mention she's had a really crappy year.

I think we're supposed to feel sorry for her and Davis. They're both kind of in a crappy position. And no doubt, if Davis wasn't so doomed, Chloe and Davis would make a really great couple who would make each other really happy!

It's all just very sad. I thought it was interesting that they compared Clark saving Lois to Davis/Doomsday saving Chloe. Destiny vs. Doom. Actually Dooms saving Chloe reminded me of the scene in Moonlight, when Mick killed the guy who had a knife on Beth. It brought out his inner vampire! :) Isn't it cute that the Beast doesn't hurt Chloe? He was protecting her. ;) It endeared me to Dooms.

I find it ironic that the two people (Chloe and Davis) who have worked their butts off to be good and help people and have a great career (a journalist and paramedic) are the ones who get a "doomed" destiny. And the two (Lois and Clark) who never really worked to get where they are (they had it handed to them because of their "destiny." Let's face it, Lois has never gone to college and didn't even have to work hard to get offered a job at the DP; and all Clark had to do was file an application), will be the ones who get a happy ending and some great "destiny." And no, I'm not trying to insult any character. I'm just saying. It's ironic.

I thought Allison Mack did a great job in the episode. Chloe is probably the most layered, deep character on the show. Chloe has so many different sides to her. But all sides that make sense.

No doubt she cares for Davis, and she cares very much for Clark as well as Lois. But she feels she needs to lie to protect everyone! And it's killing her inside. She has a huge burden. I'm sure Davis will be feeling some guilt over it (Chloe having this burden because of him) in future episodes.

There's so much word in this post. Bravo! Well said. :)

Jack-El49
04-25-2009, 01:10 PM
Chloe certainly has found herself between a rock (or bone-protrusion covered baddie) and a hard place (or a Man of Steel). I don't think she knows who to turn to or what to do, even though you're right, Bizarrolover in that she could easily call in the entire Justice League to assist her. Still, I think she's fearful of what would happen if she tried to get any backup or reinforcements. I imagine she still thinks she's doing what she's doing in the name of protecting Clark and everyone else, but after what happened to Mannheim's goon, she's even more conflicted. I feel so sorry for her!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

The imagery of Chloe staring at the blood on her hands was all that needed to be shown. But let's face it - Chloe has put herself between the unstoppable force and the immovable object. No matter what, her decisions have not done anything but hurt those around her and I think we'll see that her decisions will lead to hurting those who trusted and loved her.

Bizarrolover
04-25-2009, 01:11 PM
What would they do? If they confront Davis he'll definetly turn to Doomsday and they can't stop him. I'm betting Chloe has thought of this already.
It isn't like keeping Lex or someone else that the J.L can beat.

So she plans to continue to throw body parts in the dumpster for Davis for the rest of her life? I'm sorry to disagree, but Chloe is not thinking. Because if she thinks of this just for a moment, she would call Clark and the League and ask Oliver to put Doomsday inside rocket and send him to outer space. Or elaborate a plan to destroy it. Certainly they can come up with a better solution than hiding him in the basement of a coffee house. Chloe is not resolving anything, she's just delaying the inevitable and adding more victims to Doomsday's body count.



Originally Posted by topping82 http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4763884#post4763884)
Well anyway, Chloe is trying to do what she thinks is best. But it's a huge burden having to carry that kind of secret and it's taking its toll. Not to mention she's had a really crappy year.


I was watching stilleto again this morning and I realized how knowing Clark's secret had ruined Chloe's life. I recalled that moment in Apocalypse when Clark met her on the street, so happy, about to get married, free of the angst and the danger of knowing who he was and I remembered that happy girl, so full of life she was in S4. In one way, I make Clark partially responsible for everything that happened to her during the past three years. Clark allowed things to get this far. I know she was basically and exposition character, but by allowing Chloe to take such an important role as his sidekick (no wonder why Superman doesn't have one) he put her in such danger that will probably cost her life. Like Oliver said, there are things that aren't meant for humans. Chloe souldn't have been exposed to all this, she shouldn't have been infected by Brainiac. For too long, Clark allowed her to help him fight his battles and I fear that this time he won't be able to save her or himself. I hope he learns his lesson and never allows a human to become so involved in his superhero life.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 01:13 PM
I love Chloe in the episode. I think some people look for reasons to hate her. I love how the whole "feeding" Doomsday thing got blown out of proportion. She didn't even push the guy.

Well anyway, Chloe is trying to do what she thinks is best. But it's a huge burden having to carry that kind of secret and it's taking its toll. Not to mention she's had a really crappy year.

I think we're supposed to feel sorry for her and Davis. They're both kind of in a crappy position. And no doubt, if Davis wasn't so doomed, Chloe and Davis would make a really great couple who would make each other really happy!

It's all just very sad. I thought it was interesting that they compared Clark saving Lois to Davis/Doomsday saving Chloe. Destiny vs. Doom. Actually Dooms saving Chloe reminded me of the scene in Moonlight, when Mick killed the guy who had a knife on Beth. It brought out his inner vampire! :) Isn't it cute that the Beast doesn't hurt Chloe? He was protecting her. ;) It endeared me to Dooms.

I find it ironic that the two people (Chloe and Davis) who have worked their butts off to be good and help people and have a great career (a journalist and paramedic) are the ones who get a "doomed" destiny. And the two (Lois and Clark) who never really worked to get where they are (they had it handed to them because of their "destiny." Let's face it, Lois has never gone to college and didn't even have to work hard to get offered a job at the DP; and all Clark had to do was file an application), will be the ones who get a happy ending and some great "destiny." And no, I'm not trying to insult any character. I'm just saying. It's ironic.

I thought Allison Mack did a great job in the episode. Chloe is probably the most layered, deep character on the show. Chloe has so many different sides to her. But all sides that make sense.

No doubt she cares for Davis, and she cares very much for Clark as well as Lois. But she feels she needs to lie to protect everyone! And it's killing her inside. She has a huge burden. I'm sure Davis will be feeling some guilt over it (Chloe having this burden because of him) in future episodes.


ITA!!!:cool: and I loved Chloe ... always will :)

Violet-Shadow
04-25-2009, 01:25 PM
Chloe certainly has found herself between a rock (or bone-protrusion covered baddie) and a hard place (or a Man of Steel). I don't think she knows who to turn to or what to do, even though you're right, Bizarrolover in that she could easily call in the entire Justice League to assist her. Still, I think she's fearful of what would happen if she tried to get any backup or reinforcements. I imagine she still thinks she's doing what she's doing in the name of protecting Clark and everyone else, but after what happened to Mannheim's goon, she's even more conflicted. I feel so sorry for her!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

I feel sorry for her as well. I think that in her desire to do the right thing, she did the wrong thing, but at least she has remorse about it. I haven't really been liking Chloe all that much since Turbulence but this episode changed my opinion of her. When she cried next to that dumpster, I felt frustrated but only because I wanted to see her tell Clark or Oliver about what was happening. I believe, like others, her actions will have consequences but I hope that her friendship with Clark isn't shown as being irrevocably damaged.

Vindellavon
04-25-2009, 01:28 PM
I feel bad for her, I really do. :(

Firebunny
04-25-2009, 01:32 PM
As far as I'm concerned Chloe was the hero in this episode. She did something truly amazing. She got Clark to flash the camera. I will be forever thankful. I just hope she can do it again next week.

But seriously, I really like what they're doing with Chloe right now. She's going down a dark path and they're doing a wonderful job conveying her turmoil.

abbaspice1
04-25-2009, 04:03 PM
I'm sorry, but I cannot find any sympathy for Chloe. Instead of warning her best friend so he can prepare for the fight of his life, she hides he enemy. This monster who supposedly kills only bad guys (and some of the bad guys were just robbing a company-- not a capital offense), who is now invulnerable to kryptonite, is hiding in her basement. How long does she think she can control the beast? And during all this time, Clark could hae been preparing, bu it is going to hit him fast and hard. Thanks to Chloe. This is beyond stupid, it is reckless.

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I feel sorry for her as well. I think that in her desire to do the right thing, she did the wrong thing, but at least she has remorse about it. I haven't really been liking Chloe all that much since Turbulence but this episode changed my opinion of her. When she cried next to that dumpster, I felt frustrated but only because I wanted to see her tell Clark or Oliver about what was happening. I believe, like others, her actions will have consequences but I hope that her friendship with Clark isn't shown as being irrevocably damaged.

I probably could have some sympathy for her if I didn't see the previews for next week's show.:mad:

Serynarpc
04-25-2009, 04:11 PM
Chloe is under such pressure that she's doing things that she'll never otherwise do. Davis is constantly demanding her presence by his side and that's consuming her. She put the identity of entire Justice league in danger because her mind is not where it's supposed to be. She's the watchtower, for heaven's sake! One word of this to Oliver and she'd have an entire team of superheroes doing what should have been done from the very beginning. The worst part is that she knows that this will lead nowhere and yet she can't bring herself to do the right thing.

Oh, excellent point. I assumed Chloe had been dragged away from Davis to rescue her cousin (and likely planned to head right back to the apartment) but considering that she was so scatterbrained because she's consumed by DD is an excellent point.

Personally, I'm worried that she brought DD home, to the Talon. She ought to have kept him at the Isis, a place where her cousin who would definitely investigate strange noises and her super speeding friend would visit less.

Dumping body parts in her own dumpster? Chloe knows better than this. She's investigated leads like this. Good catch that she's simply reacting - and not reacting well- because she can't process the reality of her life.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm sorry, but I cannot find any sympathy for Chloe. Instead of warning her best friend so he can prepare for the fight of his life, she hides he enemy. This monster who supposedly kills only bad guys (and some of the bad guys were just robbing a company-- not a capital offense), who is now invulnerable to kryptonite, is hiding in her basement. How long does she think she can control the beast? And during all this time, Clark could hae been preparing, bu it is going to hit him fast and hard. Thanks to Chloe. This is beyond stupid, it is reckless.


But thatīs what Chloe is trying to do ..... prevent the fight between Davis(Doom) and Clark, we all know that she cares for Davis ... and loves Clark and would do anything to protect him ..... yeah I think it is kind of wrong of her .... for not telling Clark ... but she firmly thinks that she can help Davis control the beast and prevent a bloody combat ... she doesnīt want to lose Clark or Davis ... we all know that what she is doing is kind of useless and the ultimate fight between Clark and Doom is inevitable .... but sheīs trying, and maybe she will even pay for that ....... :(:(

abbaspice1
04-25-2009, 04:18 PM
But thatīs what Chloe is trying to do ..... prevent the fight between Davis(Doom) and Clark, we all know that she cares for Davis ... and loves Clark and would do anything to protect him ..... yeah I think it is kind of wrong of her .... for not telling Clark ... but she firmly thinks that she can help Davis control the beast and prevent a bloody combat ... she doesnīt want to lose Clark or Davis ... we all know that what she is doing is kind of useless and the ultimate fight between Clark and Doom is inevitable .... but sheīs trying, and maybe she will even pay for that ....... :(:(

I could by that, but Chloe has always been a SMART person. It is not smart to hide the ultimate killer, and all the while not warn your best friend who is the target. How long would it take to tell Clark that she believes that Davis isn't dead, and he needs to prepare himself?

But by hiding Davis (Without warning Clark) she gives Davis the upper hand.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 04:28 PM
I could by that, but Chloe has always been a SMART person. It is not smart to hide the ultimate killer, and all the while not warn your best friend who is the target. How long would it take to tell Clark that she believes that Davis isn't dead, and he needs to prepare himself?

But by hiding Davis (Without warning Clark) she gives Davis the upper hand.


But we also know that characters on this show when driven by love and fear donīt make the most logical, smart decisions .. even if it is going to lead something bad.

abbaspice1
04-25-2009, 04:36 PM
But we also know that characters on this show when driven by love and fear donīt make the most logical, smart decisions .. even if it is going to lead something bad.

Yes, but there are bad decisions....and then there are BAD decisions. And this one takes the cake. I cannot even think of anyone coming remotely close to making such a bad decision. Chloe is so smart, I don't understand why her brain and logic isn't kicking in.

As I said before in another thread, it was Chloe look stupid at best.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 04:40 PM
Yes, but there are bad decisions....and then there are BAD decisions. And this one takes the cake. I cannot even think of anyone coming remotely close to making such a bad decision. Chloe is so smart, I don't understand why her brain and logic isn't kicking in.

As I said before in another thread, it was Chloe look stupid at best.

Well, for me itīs Chloe being human. ;)

abbaspice1
04-25-2009, 04:50 PM
Well, for me itīs Chloe being human. ;)

Yeah, but I don't have much sympathy for humans who make such tragic (and avoidable) decisions.

It like a person who drives drunk. You know before you turn the key, at best you get home safe, or perhaps a cop stops you before you can do any harm. But the worst cast scenario....you kill someone or someone dies becuase they serve trying to avoid hitting you. You knew it could happen, but you made a bad choice. Sorry, I have no sympathy for folks like that. I know other people do, but it is not my cup of tea.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 04:55 PM
Yeah, but I don't have much sympathy for humans who make such tragic (and avoidable) decisions.

It like a person who drives drunk. You know before you turn the key, at best you get home safe, or perhaps a cop stops you before you can do any harm. But the worst cast scenario....you kill someone or someone dies becuase they serve trying to avoid hitting you. You knew it could happen, but you made a bad choice. Sorry, I have no sympathy for folks like that. I know other people do, but it is not my cup of tea.

Itīs ok to agree to disagree, because you know we have different point of views for what she is doing.

I am not saying what she is doing is right or that I LOVE it ... not at all, I am just saying that I can understand her reasons and try to look outside the box ....

She is trying to keep the drunk guy at home ... she is not giving him alchool or the carīs key.

Serynarpc
04-25-2009, 05:26 PM
Yes, but there are bad decisions....and then there are BAD decisions. And this one takes the cake. I cannot even think of anyone coming remotely close to making such a bad decision. Chloe is so smart, I don't understand why her brain and logic isn't kicking in.

As I said before in another thread, it was Chloe look stupid at best.

I have to disagree. It isn't Chloe being stupid. It is assuredly, not a smart or wise decision, but Chloe's intelligence hasn't taken a plunge. I believe that Chloe is trying to help both Davis and Clark- help Davis avoid becoming DD and help Clark by avoiding a DD vs Clark show down.

Chloe has shown us that she is willing to sacrifice Davis to protect Clark- she was the one who threw the switch to 'kill' Davis, not Clark. She tried to save her best friend and sacrifice her close friend in the process.

It didn't work.

Now atop of her feelings of grief and guilt for 'killing' Davis, she has to process that her best friend's doom may be fast approaching and the only way she seems to be able to stop it is to help Davis- which is exactly what Davis told her.

There is no good situation here.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 05:28 PM
I have to disagree. It isn't Chloe being stupid. It is assuredly, not a smart or wise decision, but Chloe's intelligence hasn't taken a plunge. I believe that Chloe is trying to help both Davis and Clark- help Davis avoid becoming DD and help Clark by avoiding a DD vs Clark show down.

Chloe has shown us that she is willing to sacrifice Davis to protect Clark- she was the one who threw the switch to 'kill' Davis, not Clark. She tried to save her best friend and sacrifice her close friend in the process.

It didn't work.

Now atop of her feelings of grief and guilt for 'killing' Davis, she has to process that her best friend's doom may be fast approaching and the only way she seems to be able to stop it is to help Davis- which is exactly what Davis told her.

There is no good situation here.

ITA!!

ginevrakent
04-25-2009, 05:31 PM
I have to disagree. It isn't Chloe being stupid. It is assuredly, not a smart or wise decision, but Chloe's intelligence hasn't taken a plunge. I believe that Chloe is trying to help both Davis and Clark- help Davis avoid becoming DD and help Clark by avoiding a DD vs Clark show down.

Chloe has shown us that she is willing to sacrifice Davis to protect Clark- she was the one who threw the switch to 'kill' Davis, not Clark. She tried to save her best friend and sacrifice her close friend in the process.

It didn't work.

Now atop of her feelings of grief and guilt for 'killing' Davis, she has to process that her best friend's doom may be fast approaching and the only way she seems to be able to stop it is to help Davis- which is exactly what Davis told her.

There is no good situation here.

I don't think Chloe is stupid, but I agree that she is making some very unwise decisions even if they are for noble reasons. I just cannot understand why she is hiding the fact that Davis is alive from Clark. He and Metropolis deserve to be prepared for the unthinkable, if ultimately Chloe's calming influence or willpower is not strong enough to calm the beast.

Serynarpc
04-25-2009, 05:37 PM
ITA!!

Thank you, RedKRules... I think. What does ITA mean?


I don't think Chloe is stupid, but I agree that she is making some very unwise decisions even if they are for noble reasons.

*Nods sadly* I agree. Chloe has always been our shining light- the one to force the crystal into his hand, the one to point out tough decisions (like Brainiac). To see her
stumble so spectacularly is hard to watch.


I just cannot understand why she is hiding the fact that Davis is alive from Clark. He and Metropolis deserve to be prepared for the unthinkable, if ultimately Chloe's calming influence or willpower is not strong enough to calm the beast.

I agree, Chloe should have told him. Clark was open- he stated 'we should have been brothers'. Ideally, she should have brought them together to discuss how to help Davis. It ought to be in the Arctic away from innocent civilians in case Davis transformed into DD, but hiding DD isn't the answer.

All we need is for DD to accidentally knock Chloe unconscious in her apartment, freak out and begin to demolish her apartment, Clark shows up to check on Chloe- and hell, Clark thinking DD killed Chloe and is all for mega show down.

We the fans know DD can kill Clark- and that the showdown is imminent- but Chloe shouldn't be the one to facilitate it.

RedKRules
04-25-2009, 05:40 PM
I don't think Chloe is stupid, but I agree that she is making some very unwise decisions even if they are for noble reasons. I just cannot understand why she is hiding the fact that Davis is alive from Clark. He and Metropolis deserve to be prepared for the unthinkable, if ultimately Chloe's calming influence or willpower is not strong enough to calm the beast.


I think she is hiding that because she knows Clark will try to find a īway` to stop Davis or fix him .... and I donīt think she is willing to take the chances of Clark seeing Davis again and Davis transforms into Doom and then they would start the fight, where they could get badly injured or even dead...

I can understand why she is keeping it from Clark, even knowing it is not the best decision, I also understand that Clark needs to be prepared and all, but most of his fight on SV were unpredictable ... guess this time wonīt be any different .. even if his enemy is Doomsday.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


Thank you, RedKRules... I think. What does ITA mean?


ITA stands for= I totally agree :p :)

friendsita
04-25-2009, 06:19 PM
*Nods sadly* I agree. Chloe has always been our shining light- the one to force the crystal into his hand, the one to point out tough decisions (like Brainiac). To see her stumble so spectacularly is hard to watch.

100% agree :(

Serynarpc
04-25-2009, 06:25 PM
100% agree :(

*gives Chloe bolstering hug*

I fear next episode might hurt worse- the promo of Chloe telling Clark that she and Davis are leaving and that she doesn't want him to find them. What on earth is she thinking?

I just know the kissing scenes are dreams or nightmares. That's a cruel tease.

Billy Jor-El
04-27-2009, 07:57 AM
Thank you, RedKRules... I think. What does ITA mean?


"I totally agree"

Chloe is easily the most conflicted character in SV. She is still in love with Clark, and at the same time recognizes his value to everyone else ("The world needs you! I NEED YOU!!").

She has threatened Lana if she was to hurt Clark. She has pretty much stated she would die to protect him (and may I repeat myself in saying I pray it never comes to that).

And despite it all, she does have an odd attraction to Davis, knowing that Davis/DD is a genuine threat to Clark. Is she just leading Davis on to destroy him to protect Clark? I don't think so; with all her actions, she does care for Davis while fearing his beast within.

As we've said in other threads, AM's eyes say it all. When Lois comments about her own getting in over her head, Chloe's look of understanding that phrase says it all. She is in over her head, she knows it, but she can't look away. I'm hoping that ultimately the true nature of her character, spirit, intelligence will lead her on the right path. Keeping in mind though, that Brainiac-influenced or not, she committed murder to protect Clark. Chloe is not the innocent, sweet angel of the Torch anymore.

amalie
04-27-2009, 08:05 AM
"I totally agree"

Chloe is easily the most conflicted character in SV. She is still in love with Clark, and at the same time recognizes his value to everyone else ("The world needs you! I NEED YOU!!").

She has threatened Lana if she was to hurt Clark. She has pretty much stated she would die to protect him (and may I repeat myself in saying I pray it never comes to that).

And despite it all, she does have an odd attraction to Davis, knowing that Davis/DD is a genuine threat to Clark. Is she just leading Davis on to destroy him to protect Clark? I don't think so; with all her actions, she does care for Davis while fearing his beast within.

As we've said in other threads, AM's eyes say it all. When Lois comments about her own getting in over her head, Chloe's look of understanding that phrase says it all. She is in over her head, she knows it, but she can't look away. I'm hoping that ultimately the true nature of her character, spirit, intelligence will lead her on the right path. Keeping in mind though, that Brainiac-influenced or not, she committed murder to protect Clark. Chloe is not the innocent, sweet angel of the Torch anymore.

Chloe isn't in love with Clark, she said so herself in Committed while hooked up to a lie detector test.

red_sun1938
04-27-2009, 08:08 AM
Chloe scenes were so sad I felt like crying! AM did great job!

The way she's playing this hiding Davis angle is really brilliant. You can see how conflicted and disturbed she is while trying to keep it under warps. That dumpster scene was really powerful. AM nailed that.

amalie
04-27-2009, 08:18 AM
The way she's playing this hiding Davis angle is really brilliant. You can see how conflicted and disturbed she is while trying to keep it under warps. That dumpster scene was really powerful. AM nailed that.


You see, this is what I don't get. Why is she conflicted? I think most people on here agree that Chloe should tell Clark about DD, I think even Chloe knows she should, yet she's still hiding it. It just baffles me :confused: There's no logical reason to keep Davis hidden, I don't buy the theory that it'll get Clark killed if he knows so if it turns out that's her motive then I'm going to have trouble believing her.

RedKRules
04-27-2009, 08:51 AM
Chloe isn't in love with Clark, she said so herself in Committed while hooked up to a lie detector test.

That lie detector is good as the Kentīs old tractor. I didnīt believe a thing about what happened in that episode at all ... with due respect.

chlo-el
04-27-2009, 08:56 AM
You see, this is what I don't get. Why is she conflicted? I think most people on here agree that Chloe should tell Clark about DD, I think even Chloe knows she should, yet she's still hiding it. It just baffles me :confused: There's no logical reason to keep Davis hidden, I don't buy the theory that it'll get Clark killed if he knows so if it turns out that's her motive then I'm going to have trouble believing her.

There is a very logical reason not to tell Clark. She knows Clark and she knows Clark isn't just going to let her hide Davis and keep them a part. Chloe is trying to keep the two apart. It was shown that clark brings the Doomsday side out of Davis it seems to be part of his programming. She knows if their even in the same room it's very likely Davis will turn into Doomsday and kill Clark something she is desperately trying to prevent.

amalie
04-27-2009, 09:18 AM
There is a very logical reason not to tell Clark. She knows Clark and she knows Clark isn't just going to let her hide Davis and keep them a part.



So why not just tell Clark that Davis is back without revealing his location. She could just say he came to see her, it wouldn't be too far from the truth.



Chloe is trying to keep the two apart. It was shown that clark brings the Doomsday side out of Davis it seems to be part of his programming. She knows if their even in the same room it's very likely Davis will turn into Doomsday and kill Clark something she is desperately trying to prevent.

That doesn't mean she can't tell Clark he still exists. At least give the guy a chance to find a solution, instead she's just keeping him completely in the dark. It lacks logic in my opinion, however we look at it.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


That lie detector is good as the Kentīs old tractor. I didnīt believe a thing about what happened in that episode at all ... with due respect.


It seemed to work pretty well to me but to each their own I guess.

justme_007
04-27-2009, 11:29 AM
That lie detector is good as the Kentīs old tractor. I didnīt believe a thing about what happened in that episode at all ... with due respect.

Me neither.

Sweetie
04-27-2009, 11:35 AM
I hate her character now.They are messing with her badly this season.I hardly recognised her anymore.Her life is falling apart because she is always putting her nose where it doesn't belong,she always has to go help Clark,go see Davis when she knew that the guy has a serious crush on her and sometimes she has to do some work for Oliver too.Really if she kept her distance for at least 2 of those 3 men may be she would still be happy & married.I'm effraid they are changing her into Lana number 2.

joyce20
04-27-2009, 01:12 PM
I love Chloe in the episode. I think some people look for reasons to hate her. I love how the whole "feeding" Doomsday thing got blown out of proportion. She didn't even push the guy.

Well anyway, Chloe is trying to do what she thinks is best. But it's a huge burden having to carry that kind of secret and it's taking its toll. Not to mention she's had a really crappy year.

I think we're supposed to feel sorry for her and Davis. They're both kind of in a crappy position. And no doubt, if Davis wasn't so doomed, Chloe and Davis would make a really great couple who would make each other really happy!

It's all just very sad. I thought it was interesting that they compared Clark saving Lois to Davis/Doomsday saving Chloe. Destiny vs. Doom. Actually Dooms saving Chloe reminded me of the scene in Moonlight, when Mick killed the guy who had a knife on Beth. It brought out his inner vampire! :) Isn't it cute that the Beast doesn't hurt Chloe? He was protecting her. ;) It endeared me to Dooms.

I find it ironic that the two people (Chloe and Davis) who have worked their butts off to be good and help people and have a great career (a journalist and paramedic) are the ones who get a "doomed" destiny. And the two (Lois and Clark) who never really worked to get where they are (they had it handed to them because of their "destiny." Let's face it, Lois has never gone to college and didn't even have to work hard to get offered a job at the DP; and all Clark had to do was file an application), will be the ones who get a happy ending and some great "destiny." And no, I'm not trying to insult any character. I'm just saying. It's ironic.

I thought Allison Mack did a great job in the episode. Chloe is probably the most layered, deep character on the show. Chloe has so many different sides to her. But all sides that make sense.

No doubt she cares for Davis, and she cares very much for Clark as well as Lois. But she feels she needs to lie to protect everyone! And it's killing her inside. She has a huge burden. I'm sure Davis will be feeling some guilt over it (Chloe having this burden because of him) in future episodes.

wow i nvr thought of it that way especially how Chloe/Davis ended up with a doomed destiny while clark and lois got it good.

abbaspice1
04-27-2009, 04:17 PM
Well, actually it was just the Davis-secret thing. It was also keeping VITAL information about the Justice League on HER LAPTOP! And dumping the remains in th dumpster at her house!

Maybe she wasn't stupid, but she asn't too bright in this episode either.

I wonder if the writers are purposely doing this and for what reason.

AgentChaos
04-27-2009, 05:16 PM
It seemed to work pretty well to me but to each their own I guess.

Lie detectors are very unreliable. Anyone who knows what they're doing can fool them. For example, the psycho asking Lois if she ever cheated on Clark. They're not a couple, only pretending, so answering no to that would be the truth, because they are not dating. But it went off because Lois was under stress, which the machine is programmed to read.

Tasji
04-27-2009, 05:27 PM
I really enjoyed her character this episode, we've got the lonely Blur/Lois thing going on that gives a warm glow because we know they are not really alone, they have each other and then there's the person who really is alone, and scared. Very compelling to watch. I'm pretty certain that the portents of doom (ha!) with the music, slow stair climb and 'walking to the gallows' look at the end of Eternal alongside the Chloe who was just a mite unhealthy with pale, drawn appearance and deteriorating emotional state (painfully realistic portrayal of 'on the edge' from Mack) in Stiletto all point to a person trapped in to a situation she does not want to be in but has to... and being that she killed davis for Clark the first time and davis knew to tempt her by saying Clark would be safe if she stayed... seems a no-brainer that she's doing it for Clark and however wise/unwise her actions may turn out to be, it makes great viewing in the mean time.

amalie
04-27-2009, 11:20 PM
Lie detectors are very unreliable. Anyone who knows what they're doing can fool them. For example, the psycho asking Lois if she ever cheated on Clark. They're not a couple, only pretending, so answering no to that would be the truth, because they are not dating. But it went off because Lois was under stress, which the machine is programmed to read.

Or answering no would be a lie because they're not engaged.

Personally I think the lie detector worked and I think the way Chloe responded to that question was a clear indication that she isn't in love with Clark anymore.

devilneedsaride
04-28-2009, 10:38 AM
Or answering no would be a lie because they're not engaged.

Personally I think the lie detector worked and I think the way Chloe responded to that question was a clear indication that she isn't in love with Clark anymore.

Well, she can't have cheated on him because they aren't engaged, so that line couldn't really be a lie. I'm not lying when I say I've never cheated on my best friend, because I couldn't if I tried. I agree that that line was probably beeped at because she was stressed that he would think it was a lie, or that he would discover the bigger underlying lie, or whatever. The machines read stress, which is why kidnapping people, threatening their lives, and then running them through that machine isn't the best way to produce the most accurate of results.

As to Chloe, it sure looked to me like the machine worked as well as could be expected there. If it weren't for Abyss, where most of her cherished memories of Clark were really romantic, I would be saying she's absolutely over him. As it stands, I tend to think that maybe she thinks she's over him, but subconsciously she's still a bit hung up. It would explain why the machine didn't read stress on that question, because she honestly didn't think she was lying, as well as why she kept having images of them kissing when her mind started to unravel.

Just my totally off-topic .02