Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of "Stiletto?"

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Yeah, it was filler. Any episode that doesn't advance the overall story arc for the season (in this case, Clark confronting Doomsday), and focuses on a background character (Lois) more than the main character (Clark), is filler.

A plot, B plot, C plot of season 8 and overall story from seasons 1 through 8 were all dealt with and added to in this episode while developing the characters of a character driven show. From the pov of the A plot leading us to the finale aka the Doomsday/Chloe/Clark arc we had Chloe's continuing dilemma with Davis and Clark and her inability to tell anyone what's going on while she comes apart at the seams emotionally. Therefore Stiletto created a bridge between Eternal and Beast. B plot - secret identities and the RBB - we had Lois discovering the life of a secret hero ain't all that easy and we had the RBB connecting with Lois which added to the C Plot of the Lois and Clark romance which has been seen to be building this season. Main storyline of Clark's journey to becoming Superman - we had a pro-active and assertive Clark Kent having a positive influence on his future wife while setting it up for her to write his story and give the RBB a new name at some point in the future when he goes public, thus lining up with the Mythos in the way the producers have said the show would (as recently as a few days ago). It also introduced Bruno Mannheim and Intergang for a possible arc in season nine.

So It handled all three arcs from season eight plus the main storyline and provided a lead in to season nine. Therefore it was not a filler. For anyone who only cares about the Chloe/Doomsday arc it might have felt that way. For anyone who doesn't like the Chloe/Doomsday arc, Eternal or even Beast may have felt/feel like fillers - particularly Eternal since it had recaps and flashbacks.


Just a piece of friendly advice since I've noticed it a couple of times on this thread. Posts that are super loooooong are probably less likely to get read. Speaking just for myself, I don't have the patience to read a novel on an internet message board, lol. Break it up into smaller "chunks" and more people will probably read it. Ok, shutting up now. :)

I appreciate the friendly advice, but there's a reason I put a long post warning at the top and it's up to the individual whether or not they choose to read it. Naturally I appreciate when anyone does, but if they don't that's fine too. I understood the boards were a platform for everyone to state their opinion and discuss things and, in fairness, I'm not the only person who posts long reviews. :)

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Ironically, I posted a long reply immediately following...it was almost like I PLANNED it that way, but I'm not that smart! ;

PS Annie, I read your entire post - and loved it! We feel very similarly except I'm not quite as despairing of the Doomsday storyline... but there is still time for despair, haha!

[HeroesUnlimited]

A plot, B plot, C plot of season 8 and overall story from seasons 1 through 8 were all dealt with and added to in this episode while developing the characters of a character driven show. From the pov of the A plot leading us to the finale aka the Doomsday/Chloe/Clark arc we had Chloe's continuing dilemma with Davis and Clark and her inability to tell anyone what's going on while she comes apart at the seams emotionally. Therefore Stiletto created a bridge between Eternal and Beast. B plot - secret identities and the RBB - we had Lois discovering the life of a secret hero ain't all that easy and we had the RBB connecting with Lois which added to the C Plot of the Lois and Clark romance which has been seen to be building this season. Main storyline of Clark's journey to becoming Superman - we had a pro-active and assertive Clark Kent having a positive influence on his future wife while setting it up for her to write his story and give the RBB a new name at some point in the future when he goes public, thus lining up with the Mythos in the way the producers have said the show would (as recently as a few days ago). It also introduced Bruno Mannheim and Intergang for a possible arc in season nine.

So It handled all three arcs from season eight plus the main storyline and provided a lead in to season nine. Therefore it was not a filler. For anyone who only cares about the Chloe/Doomsday arc it might have felt that way. For anyone who doesn't like the Chloe/Doomsday arc, Eternal or even Beast may have felt/feel like fillers - particularly Eternal since it had recaps and flashbacks.


Stilleto had:

-way too much Lois and not enough Clark

-about 30 seconds of Davis/Doomsday

-a corny/cheesy attempt to make Lois into a vigilantee superhero (and in the meantime, she basically flipped her middle finger to the concept of "truth" in journalism)

It was filler.

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I appreciate the friendly advice, but there's a reason I put a long post warning at the top and it's up to the individual whether or not they choose to read it. Naturally I appreciate when anyone does, but if they don't that's fine too. I understood the boards were a platform for everyone to state their opinion and discuss things and, in fairness, I'm not the only person who posts long reviews. :)

Which is why I didn't specifically direct it at you. :)

[Superboii]

This episode was an extreme let down.
Lois as a superhero?????
NO THANKS!
It got very tacky and cheesy witht he whole STILETTO!
But the only cute bit was the whole blurr-etto! bahaha

but yer.... writing for this episode SUCKED!

[traceylb]

Trying to write and film a scene for something as iconic as the romance between Lois Lane and Clark Kent must be very difficult. I guess that’s why the makers of Smallville didn’t get it quite right in “Stiletto” which featured the first interactions between Lois and what the show calls the “Red Blue Blur” of fictional Metropolis.

There was enough in the interplay between Lois (Erica Durance) and Clark (Tom Welling) that WAS right to still make a good episode, and there were also lots of Smallville fandom in-jokes which marked an improvement for a show that has tried to be internet-savvy before but hasn’t gotten it right until now.

For one thing the makers of the show are obviously dealing with a problem fans have been wondering about for a very long time: how do you explain the fact that Smallville’s Clark Kent eventually turns into Superman, the non-mask wearing king of the comic book heroes, and nobody recognizes him? I mean, even if this Clark dons glasses while on the job, Superman would just look like Clark in tights and a cape.

It’s one big gaping plot hole for the future. I’m pretty sure the original creators didn’t intend for the show to last long enough to encounter the issue, as they stated the “no-tights no-flights” rule early on. Now, however, it’s becoming a distraction.

For the present, the show gets around it by having the first “meeting” between Lois and Clark’s hero-identity come over the phone, as Clark uses modern technology to disguise his voice. It makes a pretty sweet moment, with Clark spying on Lois from the rooftop not unlike a younger Clark spied on Lana Lang through a telescope in the shows’ early years. It does, however, leave that nasty identity problem hanging out there.

The episode focuses on Lois, ever the ambitious reporter, using her thrashing of a mugger as story-fodder to become the city’s newest super-hero, whom she styles Stiletto. Clark, in a LOL moment, theorizes the new girl must be a knife expert. Durance has some good moments playing the fake-heroine, complete with a fetching leather costume that makes noise when she walks.

Lois asks Jimmy Olsen (Aaron Ashmore) to photograph her and inquires if sewing a big S on the front of her costume would be “tacky.” With several knowing winks, writer Caroline Dries lets us know she’s well aware of what she’s up against in taking on material with such a storied history, and that she feels up to the challenge. I didn’t buy it all, but I was smiling most of the time.

One of the problems with the dynamic of the iconic comic book duo is when it becomes a trio. There is a moment when Lois, Clark & Jimmy are all fighting in the same room and against the same foes while saving each other, and it should be epic. But it’s not, mainly due to the lack of spark from third-wheel Jimmy. The writers of Smallville have made some strange choices for the character, plunging him into despair and drugs after a (really, really) short-stint of a marriage to Chloe Sullivan (Allison Mack).

I don’t mind Dark-Jimmy, but putting him on this kind of spiral right when Lois and Clark are starting up robs us of some of the fun in the banter at the Daily Planet. As it is, Lois and Clark’s cute word-play/eye-play at the newspaper is good, but it really needs an audience (other than us). It also needs Perry White, but he’s been MIA since a quick appearance in Season 3.

As for Chloe, anyone who reads me by now knows how in love I am with the character, my favorite on TV now that one Willow Rosenberg resides only in comic book form. Chloe’s in an even darker place than Jimmy right now, and I don’t feel as good about her odds of pulling out of it as I do for his. She lacks the safety-net of the 69 year-old character history that surrounds Jimmy.

Chloe is hiding a handsome paramedic, who is also a serial killer and an unstoppable super-villain, down in her basement (stop and ponder that statement for moment). She’s even taking out the…uh…garbage for him. I buy her reasons, but it doesn’t seem quite as reasonable this week since we don’t get to see Sam Witter’s sympathetic Davis at all, just the monster Doomsday taking care of a mob guy who dares to threaten Chloe.

Mack has one great scene with Welling where she lets him know, even while denying it, that her life is coming apart. Unfortunately, the drama and despair of her situation is jarring (as is Jimmy’s) against the lighter Lois and Clark portions of the show, and there’s no meshing here, just a constant foreshadowing that any laughter will soon turn to tears.

Still there are very good moments. There is a shout-out to shippers in what looks like a nod to Kryptonsite (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/../), and Chloe talks about Facebook in a way that makes sense (Smallville is usually surprisingly technologically clumsy for a show with its demographics). And Durance sells Lois, even though some of her actual heroics are a bit unrealistic.

If it feels like a deep breath before the plunge, that’s because it's likely just that. The Doomsday arc will soon take center stage and romance (unless it’s between Chloe and Davis) will have to wait. “Stiletto” wasn’t quite as iconic as the material it takes on. That doesn’t explain why I’m still smiling.

Wonderful overview of the episode and I agree with all that you've written!

Although I did mostly enjoy the Lois, Clark and Chloe moments there were just something missing. It is rare we see Chlo-Lo scenes so I always appreciate these.

I think the writer, Caroline Dries, has some good ideas but what ends up on paper and shown to us on screen is not always fluid and make sense and I am not sure that she really understands Lois' character. Caroline Dries does really well with the Chloe scenes. Maybe she could do with a writing partner to help tighten up the story and pacing?! its just strange that I wanted to really enjoy this episode as it felt like ages since I've seen Lois in an episode but I just ended up feeling something was off while watching it.

I especially did not like the dark lighting throughout the episode and just some of the scene close up shots just did not work for me. Also Chloe and Lois' makeup for at least 25 minutes of screentime I did not like and I don't usually notice things like that on this show. Lois makeup and hair etc looked fantastic in the DP breakfast scene with Clark and the same with Chloe at the Talon when Clark visits.

I did like the scene where Clark takes the bullet and the breakfast scene at the DP between Lois and Clark. Chloes scenes were quite emotional even though I am not a huge fan of the Chloe/Davis arc. Jimmy...I like Jimmy but the writers are really doing a number on him too with the dark trip he is taking and the drug addiction.

The spoiler about the most romantic scene being the phone booth...well that was sweet and finally made the Lois and RBB connection that was needed but I would not class it as romantic.

I ended up giving this episode a 7.

Enjoyable but not really on my Loved It list.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

I really don't want to get into an argument here, so I'll reply to this and then we'll have to agree to disagree.


Stilleto had:

-way too much Lois and not enough Clark

As opposed to the Chloe/Davis heavy episodes which had way more of them than Clark? Or as opposed to any episode that focuses on one character while continuing the story. Everything in Stiletto had or will be shown to have an impact on Clark's journey. That to me is the bottom line. And there is still forward motion.


-about 30 seconds of Davis/Doomsday

Davis wasn't in the episode, Doomsday was barely a shadow therefore it dealt with Chloe's part of that story, which means you're complaing about the lack of more Chloe?

There was plenty there to continue the story IMO, particularly when we've just had Eternal and have three Doomsday/Chloe/Davis-centric episodes coming back-to-back and since I'm not a fan of what the Doomsday storyline has done to Chloe.


-a corny/cheesy attempt to make Lois into a vigilantee superhero (and in the meantime, she basically flipped her middle finger to the concept of "truth" in journalism)

A corny or cheesy anything does not automatically make an episode a filler, particularity when the episode does all the things I said it did. Lois - as I stated in my review - made a MISTAKE and learned from it. Until every character is mistake free I don't see how this can be used against her when she's on as much of a journey as everyone else and particularly when Chloe is hiding a serial killer in her basement and disposing of body bags.

EVERY character on this show is on a journey and Lois is no exception. So yes, she will make mistakes, and as was shown in this episode, she'll learn from them the same way everyone does. One rule for one, one rule for all. Let the character without fault cast the first stone I say.


It was filler.

I disagree.


Which is why I didn't specifically direct it at you. :)

And again I appreciate that, but since it was my long post that brought the issue up I felt I had a right to answer it. So we're good. :)

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Annie, Terrific review! I love your insight on this episode! I too agree with you about the lighting, and I want to thank you especially for addressing the "filler" accusations so well! You're very well written and knowledgable, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading some things that you pointed out that I had not noticed while watching the episode.

Thanks Michelle! :)


Symbolically, I took the red and blue trash bags that Chloe dumped as her "throwing away her friendship with Clark". However, after reading your review perhaps the writers wanted to convey another message that Chloe was being heroic. I'm not sure they succeeded, but it's nice to read a different viewpoint.

Honestly hadn't thought of it as her throwing away the friendship. To me the red and blue colouring is always associated with heroism and Clark, so from that pov I get where the thought comes from. I just think every time it has been associated with Chloe it has also represented heroism and in this case, with her on the ground weeping with blood literally on her hands, it felt like more of a fallen heroine moment to me. Interesting POV tho! I think a lot of the Chloe story this year has been deliberately left open to interpretation.


I also agree that they are using the triangle to bring Lois and Clark closer together, and after I watched Hex I felt that Clark was definitely falling in love with her. He's trying to push those feelings down, but the way he looks at her, there's no denying it. I loved the DP scene too, especially the way Lois looked down then back up to catch Clark looking at her so lovingly. I loved how she took back the food she brought, and he too looked very amused by it. They truly have a special dynamic that is so enjoyable to watch!

ITA.


Great job, and thank you for writing it!:)

Thanks again, and thanks for reading it :)


Ironically, I posted a long reply immediately following...it was almost like I PLANNED it that way, but I'm not that smart! ;

:lol:


PS Annie, I read your entire post - and loved it! We feel very similarly except I'm not quite as despairing of the Doomsday storyline... but there is still time for despair, haha!

Thank you! And I read yours and agree we feel similarly. I just hate the way the Doomsday storyline has brought Chloe to such a dreadful place. I think that's part of my despair. I just don't see a happy ending to this for anyone and since I've always seen the Clark Kent/Superman story to be filled with hope I'm finding it very depressing.

[HeroesUnlimited]

A corny or cheesy anything does not automatically make an episode a filler

Actually I think that's the BIGGEST PART of what makes an episode "filler". I put Stilleto in the same category as episodes like:

-Thirst (krypto vampires)

-Ageless (exploding baby)

-Forever (an out of control wax guy)

The moment they put Lois into a corny vigilantee outfit, this episode fell right into the same category in my opinion. The red-blue blur phone conversation was a nice touch, but not nearly enough to save it. And having only that brief scene with Doomsday/Davis in the shadows was a lame attempt to pacify the audience until next week. I stand by my opinion. Stiletto was filler.

[lane06]

i think the episode is not a filler.I enjoyed every moment of it. It's light, comedic and gearing towards the mythology. I mean come on guys some of you dont like it because you don't like lois but this is about Clark becoming superman and every aspect of his life needs to develop as he becomes the man of steel. It's not all about him and his enemies he has this other side that needs to develop and people around him influences him. I like how Clark is developing his chracter right now. Gone were the brooding days and low self esteem.

[ginevrakent]

Actually I think that's the BIGGEST PART of what makes an episode "filler". I put Stilleto in the same category as episodes like:

-Thirst (krypto vampires)

-Ageless (exploding baby)

-Forever (an out of control wax guy)

Even though the plot and overall writing of Thirst was terrible, I can't consider it filler because it was our first introduction to the new DP set and it is the episode where Chloe got a job at the Planet.


The moment they put Lois into a corny vigilantee outfit, this episode fell right into the same category in my opinion.

So, then Spell was a filler episode because it was cheesy and included our three leading ladies dressed in provocative witchy fashions. Well, there was the whole stones A-plot story. Hmmm....

I guess an episode can be cheesy and include girls in ridiculous clothes and still advance the plot.


The red-blue blur phone conversation was a nice touch, but not nearly enough to save it. And having only that brief scene with Doomsday/Davis in the shadows was a lame attempt to pacify the audience until next week. I stand by my opinion. Stiletto was filler.

The brief scene with Doomsday was not the only Doomsday related aspect of Stiletto. In my opinion, this episode showed us that Chloe already understands that she is in over her head and it is setting the stage for whatever changes her relationship with Clark forever in Beast.

[HeroesUnlimited]

i think the episode is not a filler.I enjoyed every moment of it. It's light, comedic and gearing towards the mythology. I mean come on guys some of you dont like it because you don't like lois but this is about Clark becoming superman and every aspect of his life needs to develop as he becomes the man of steel. It's not all about him and his enemies he has this other side that needs to develop and people around him influences him. I like how Clark is developing his chracter right now. Gone were the brooding days and low self esteem.

Another reason I thought this episode was filler was because (as a viewer) it felt like they were reaching to give Lois something to do. It's like they had to manufacture a purpose for her. They started to do that with Lana too towards the end.

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Even though the plot and overall writing of Thirst was terrible, I can't consider it filler

If Thirst doesn't count as "filler", then nothing does. ;)

[ginevrakent]

Another reason I thought this episode was filler was because (as a viewer) it felt like they were reaching to give Lois something to do. It's like they had to manufacture a purpose for her. They started to do that with Lana too towards the end.

How is it manufacturing a purpose for her if this storyline was hinted at back in Identity, it is integral to her overall character development as a reporter, and it continues to develop the Lois and Clark relationship?

Lois was also used as a foil to Chloe. Both girls were shown as in over their heads, but only one of them acknowledges her mistakes (I think this is where Chloe is headed in Beast).

So, I am still not seeing how this episode can be called filler.

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If Thirst doesn't count as "filler", then nothing does. ;)

I think there are many Chloe fans who would disagree with you.

[skully]

Wow, I'm amazed at the amount of negative vibes towards this epi.

I have been out of town but have now watched it twice and I thought it was great. It was no Hex, but it was still chock full of Clois chemistry. I loved the introduction of Bruno "Ugly" Mannheim (leader of Intergang in the DC universe) and hopefully it leads to some S9 Intergang action. And the not-so-subtle advancement of the Chloe/Doomsday arc was excellent. Doomy saved Chloe but moved closer to becoming the Beast 24/7. AM's torn (desperate to tell Lois and Clark her secret but sticking by Davis) performance was outstanding.

There were numerous Batman references, the Clark/Lois relationship stepped up a notch with Clark's sacrificial and powerless save, and the phone booth conversation at the end was just so iconic. What's not to love. And the close-up "whammer-slammer" (as coined by AlMiles) headshot made famous in the earlier seasons was in full force in this epi.

Great performances all round by TW, ED, AM and AA.

People are entitled to their opinion but sometimes I think they expect too much from a relatively low budget, minor network "flagship" (well, it should be if Asstrough lifted her game).

9 out of 10 from me.

[Promise]

omg did anyone here think about what this episode did to the Lois Lane character?

seriously she made up a fake superhero to get a story...she made up a fake story for her journalism career. thats called yellow journalism. all this did was desecrate her.
ugh ugh ugh. seriously ugh. times 10 million. 1 out of 10 for me.

my point to why Lois shouldn't be on Smallville. They don't know what to write. We could still have Pete on the show.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

my point to why Lois shouldn't be on Smallville. They don't know what to write. We could still have Pete on the show.

So Lana can make mistakes, Clark can make mistakes, Oliver can murder Lex and Chloe can hide a serial killer from Clark but Lois making a mistake in Stiletto, admitting to it and learning from it is a valid reason for her not to be on Smallville...

Righty-ho then. :rolleyes:

[ginevrakent]

my point to why Lois shouldn't be on Smallville. They don't know what to write. We could still have Pete on the show.

Yeah, let's get rid of Lois and bring back Pete. I mean its not like the one episode he was in last year was basically a 45 minute commercial for gum that showed him foolishly trying to be a superhero and getting in over his head to the point where he nearly betrayed Clark. Sure, let's have more of that.

[Promise]

So Lana can make mistakes, Clark can make mistakes, Oliver can murder Lex and Chloe can hide a serial killer from Clark but Lois making a mistake in Stiletto, admitting to it and learning from it is a valid reason for her not to be on Smallville...

Righty-ho then. :rolleyes:

Lana is Smallville, Pete is smallville. Oliver came in because no more Pete, Lois came in because there was no more Pete. If Smallville stayed Smallville vs this new version of Smallville aka Superfriends and the adventures of Clark and Lois, we wouldn't get episodes like this. We may still have Pete, even the Kents, or maybe Clark doing adventures around the world type of episodes.

[LoveHurts38]

Yeah, it was filler. Any episode that doesn't advance the overall story arc for the season (in this case, Clark confronting Doomsday), and focuses on a background character (Lois) more than the main character (Clark), is filler.

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Just a piece of friendly advice since I've noticed it a couple of times on this thread. Posts that are super loooooong are probably less likely to get read. Speaking just for myself, I don't have the patience to read a novel on an internet message board, lol. Break it up into smaller "chunks" and more people will probably read it. Ok, shutting up now. :)

Just to let you know I alway's look forward for Annie's or Cedric's review after each episode:p....By, the way Cederic loved your review I was waiting:D could not stop laughing:lol:

[Promise]

Yeah, let's get rid of Lois and bring back Pete. I mean its not like the one episode he was in last year was basically a 45 minute commercial for gum that showed him foolishly trying to be a superhero and getting in over his head to the point where he nearly betrayed Clark. Sure, let's have more of that.

Funny, but its not Sam Jones II fault that he was gone for 4 seasons. So they had to give him something.

[ginevrakent]

So Lana can make mistakes, Clark can make mistakes, Oliver can murder Lex and Chloe can hide a serial killer from Clark but Lois making a mistake in Stiletto, admitting to it and learning from it is a valid reason for her not to be on Smallville...

Righty-ho then. :rolleyes:

Heck, if Lois Lane is going to stumble on her path to her destiny in order to learn and grow we might as well acknowledge the lengths her iconic counterparts have gone to for their journalistic ambitions:


Lois, in particular, is fiercely, sometimes unscrupulously, competitive, resorting to such tactics as intercepting Kent’s telephone messages (S No. 14, Jan/Feb 1942; and others), sending him off on wild-goose chases (Act No. 5, Oct 1938; and others), and even seducing him into letting her accompany him on an interview and then slipping knockout drops into his drink so that she can cover the story alone(Act No.6, Nov 1938).[...] In the course of her lengthy career as a journalist Lois Lane has, for a variety of purposes, often employed disguises and alternate identities (SUPERMANICA, The Great Superman Book, 1978).

I'm with you, Annie. Lois Lane shouldn't have to be perfect in order to be a valuable character on this show.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Lana is Smallville, Pete is smallville. Oliver came in because no more Pete, Lois came in because there was no more Pete. If Smallville stayed Smallville vs this new version of Smallville aka Superfriends and the adventures of Clark and Lois, we wouldn't get episodes like this. We may still have Pete, even the Kents, or maybe Clark doing adventures around the world.

Lana WAS a character on Smallville, Pete WAS a character on Smallville, Oliver came in to introduce the Justice League and Lois came in because the show had wanted her from the beginning according to show creators AlMiles. If Smallville stayed in Smallville and rehashed the same storylines over and over for going on nine seasons then Clark's character would never have been able to progress through the many experiences he's had. He's now 22 years old and the show has moved him into Metropolis while keeping his connections to Smallville (the town). It's called progression. Personally I would rather the show looked to the future than lived in the past. YMMV. But it is how it is, whether people like it or not.

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Funny, but its not Sam Jones II fault that he was gone for 4 seasons. So they had to give him something.

They wrote him off because they felt he had nothing more to add to the story. They brought him back for a one off guest appearance. But then, like the Kents and Lana, as soon as Clark begins to move more into the territory of Metropolis and Superman, they become part of his past (though obviously there is always some contact with his mother). The show now has him moving towards the future. As it would do the closer it gets to the end. It's as simple as that.

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Heck, if Lois Lane is going to stumble on her path to her destiny in order to learn and grow we might as well acknowledge the lengths her iconic counterparts have gone to for their journalistic ambitions:

Exactly. Great quote BTW!



I'm with you, Annie. Lois Lane shouldn't have to be perfect in order to be a valuable character on this show.

No she shouldn't. Other versions of her never have been and none of the other characters on the show are, so I don't see why she should be singled out.

[Violet-Shadow]

FallenOne - I absolutely love all your reviews and this one is no different. But after reading yours, I find myself with a similar question to the one you posed in an earlier part of your review: Why, when Chloe mentioned that the heroine's name was Stiletto, did Clark think she must be a knife expert??

Love that Star Wars reference thrown in there. :D

Also love your analysis of both Lois and Jimmy in this episode. Thanks for pointing out that Lois is human and that Jimmy's storyline, basically, sucks.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Why, when Chloe mentioned that the heroine's name was Stiletto, did Clark think she must be a knife expert??

One of the definitions of the word stiletto is:


–noun
1. a short dagger with a blade that is thick in proportion to its width.

Cedric - WONDERFUL work as always. Particularly like Clark telling tales on the boy scout during the egg hunt ;)

[traceylb]

Just to let you know I alway's look forward for Annie's or Cedric's review after each episode:p....By, the way Cederic loved your review I was waiting:D could not stop laughing:lol:

I agree...I love reading the super long reviews! Just shows how much they love Smallville that they take the time to do this! :lol:

Annie's and Cedric's reviews was fantastic and entertaining as usual - its a pity that La Donna said she will wait until the finale to do her write up as that is another one I enjoy reading also.

The many positive comments on here once they upload their reviews just shows that others appreciate the effort they put into their reviews and I particularly like their scene by scene overview and comments.

So for all the long reviewers...keep up the wonderful work and I'll certainly keep reading! :)

[batfinx]

Yeah, it was filler. Any episode that doesn't advance the overall story arc for the season (in this case, Clark confronting Doomsday), and focuses on a background character (Lois) more than the main character (Clark), is filler.

It would seem that whatever the overall story arc of Smallville is this season, some fans are giving it an arbitrary designation, or at the very least arbitrarily limiting its scope. It's fairly obvious that the plot/theme this season has had at least two tiers. One is the development of a villain (Doomsday) and the other is the development of iconic Clark Kent (reporter) and Superman (RBB), which of course includes his relationship with Lois Lane. Both plots seem to have gotten equal time this season. The only difference is that Doomsday is a short term story line, but the evolution of Superman and his relationship with Lois will continue.


Children and Smallville stars scurry about. Immediately one scout finds an egg hidden underneath a giant picture of Al Gough and Satan drinking beer.

Ha ha, Ceddie, I'd love to see that picture :lol: And you got that damn fillet of fish song stuck in my head.


Lois as a superhero?????
NO THANKS!

Now you know how the rest of the world felt about Power :D


my point to why Lois shouldn't be on Smallville. They don't know what to write. We could still have Pete on the show.

Did you watch the episode?


So Lana can make mistakes, Clark can make mistakes, Oliver can murder Lex and Chloe can hide a serial killer from Clark but Lois making a mistake in Stiletto, admitting to it and learning from it is a valid reason for her not to be on Smallville...

Yeah, I have to agree that Lois's bad choice kind of pales by comparison to Oliver murdering Lex, Chloe hiding a serial killer, or Jimmy hooked on drugs :lol:

[NinaDavis]

Lana is Smallville, Pete is smallville. Oliver came in because no more Pete, Lois came in because there was no more Pete. If Smallville stayed Smallville vs this new version of Smallville aka Superfriends and the adventures of Clark and Lois, we wouldn't get episodes like this. We may still have Pete, even the Kents, or maybe Clark doing adventures around the world type of episodes.

Yeah, keep the show in season one without evolving, without Clark meeting new people, living in the farm forever. :rolleyes:
And the name show is Smallville, but the accion now is in Metropolis. ;)

[mr lane]

Now you know how the rest of the world felt about Power :D



aha agreed but at least Lois learned her lesson and didn't go all out of control. She wants to be someone the RBB can confide in not his equal she made that apparent more than once especially at the DP where she told clark she didn't envy the RBB and his solitude

I think Clark appreciates the fact that Lois just wants to lend an ear or he wouldn't have set up the phone date.

[BackToTheLies]

IMO the only purpose it served was, on a practical level, to bring Lois and RBB together in the story and on the screen to have more Clois moments, but can't help but think we've seen all those moments before. I wouldn't say it was bad but for Lois to go to such extreme moments you certainly shouldn't leave the episode feeling like it was forgettable, and yet that's exactly what I thought as it was over.

[Fallen One]

Just to let you know I alway's look forward for Annie's or Cedric's review after each episode:p....By, the way Cederic loved your review I was waiting:D could not stop laughing:lol:
Thanks LoveHurts38 :p Glad you liked it.


FallenOne - I absolutely love all your reviews and this one is no different. But after reading yours, I find myself with a similar question to the one you posed in an earlier part of your review: Why, when Chloe mentioned that the heroine's name was Stiletto, did Clark think she must be a knife expert??

Love that Star Wars reference thrown in there. :D

Also love your analysis of both Lois and Jimmy in this episode. Thanks for pointing out that Lois is human and that Jimmy's storyline, basically, sucks.
Thanks Julie! Gotta throw in my Star Wars material every now and then. ;)

And your welcome!


One of the definitions of the word stiletto is:

Cedric - WONDERFUL work as always. Particularly like Clark telling tales on the boy scout during the egg hunt ;)
Oh crap.. that means when my ex told me.. oh CRAP! Thank you Annie.

Thank you very much Tracy! These long reviews are nothing to scoff at and take a lot of effort. Or my case, you just need a lobotomy and then it gets easier.


Ha ha, Ceddie, I'd love to see that picture :lol: And you got that damn fillet of fish song stuck in my head.
Ha ha, yeah I would like to see that photo too. And wasn't that fillet fish song just the CRAZIEST thing!??? Its stuck in my head too and I can't stop singing it! I'm ruined for life! Every time I see a fillet fish I'm going to think of that song now. And that goofy guy was just sitting there and bobbing his head to it instead of running as fast as he could. If a mounted fish started singing to me I'd scream, hit it with a brick, scream again, and then run.

[badraven]

I gave it an 8. (Really more like a B+/A-)

I was very surprised by how much I liked this episode. The trailer didn't impress me from last week, the idea didn't really do anything for me and the episode got off to a slow start IMO but I really liked 'Stiletto.' Which, to me at least, is even more impressive b/c I didn't think I would. It overcame a lot.

All in all very good stuff. First, OK- the plotline isn't going to win any awards BUT this is a TV show based on a comic book and I've read some werid comic book stories in my time. Second- how awesome was TW in this ep. He did a fantastic job. ED did well too, especially since she was given some of the hardest stuff to sell. The Clark/Lois friendship (more than friendship?) keeps being one of the highlights of the season. The last two scenes with Clark and Lois were two of the best (Clark/Lois scenes) of the series IMO. Third- special shout out for AM. She rocked. She made you really feel Chole's pain, doubt and fear. Fourth- loved how they kept all the main storylines going and advancing to a, hopefully, great season finale.

To sum up I didn't think I was going to like 'Stiletto' and I'm very glad I was wrong. Not a perfect episode but very good.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Lana is Smallville, Pete is smallville. Oliver came in because no more Pete, Lois came in because there was no more Pete. If Smallville stayed Smallville vs this new version of Smallville aka Superfriends and the adventures of Clark and Lois, we wouldn't get episodes like this. We may still have Pete, even the Kents, or maybe Clark doing adventures around the world type of episodes.

I believe that's incorrect. They didn't allow Lois' character (so I've heard) to be introduced into the series originally, and that's why they made up Chloe's character. It was a pre-cursor to Lois Lane, and the producers have stated that.

The series originally was supposed to end in S5, thus should have Lana's relationship with Clark. He's at the DP now, and if anyone's out of place in his life it's Lana. Actually, they should bring Pete and Lana back together so that they can start their iconic romance and get married!! Lana could serve as Lois Lane's bridesmaid when she marries Clark like she did in the comics!

----- Added 29 Minutes later -----


Clark thinks that over and smiles while he makes a crack about her being able to think in that tight Stiletto costume. Lois laughs that off and takes his last bear claw while noting his sense of humor. Wow she ate all his breakfast within 2 minutes. Clark looks down at his empty plate and then back at Lois who leans forward and asks if he really wanted this bear claw, before she seductively bites it.

MAN!! Clark should have jumped across that table and -- Shut up, shut up Cedric!

Clark stares at her mesmerized and she notices and looks down in this cute way to avoid his stare, then she looks up to see if he's still looking at her and he still is, totally mesmerized. BEST scene of the episode. Damn, that was one of the best Clois scenes this season.

"Look I apologize if I've been a little off my game lately. Its just that after my divorce and Brainiac and now playing Watchtower to a bunch of needy superheroes I forget that I need to be all smiles all the time." - The baine of my existance, showing you why, 7:55 PM

Cedric, I loved your whole review but this part I agree was so special and romantic! They predicted that the phone booth scene was going to be the most romantic moment, but this trumped it! I agree that the way they were looking at each other, especially Lois looking down then back up with Clark just looking so lovingly at her was pure magic!

Also, Annie mentioned the lighting in her review, and I thought about this after, but this scene seemed to "glow" showing both characters glowing while in each others presence. Loved it!!



Now knowing its him, Lois looks particularly touched. He tells "Miss Lane" he received her letter and she tells him to call her Lois, then asks about his <S>ridiculous</S> lengthy name. He smiles and tells her that there's a better name for him out there and that he has faith that she'll give it to him.

I nearly screamed when he said "Miss Lane"!! So iconic, and that's the way I describe this scene. It was a little romantic, but more iconic than anything else that I've seen including what was supposedly the most iconic moment in Infamous. ED and TW are so spectacular together! I can't wait to see what the finale and S9 holds for them!


PS: Over our dead bodies.

Me: Do not tempt me.

If you need backup!:lol:


All in All: Oh man, that was fun! I mean I had my reservations when I found out that Dries would be writing it, but that all went away when ED said she loved the script. I LOVED this episode, and I think, writing wise, it was much better than Infamous and slightly better than Bloodline. I can't think of any clunky dialogue that I needed a minute to understand besides the Shelby thing, and little emasculating Clark material.
This was Dries' best to date.

Clark was heroic, calm, intelligent, and just a joy to see. He thought for himself, was confident in his decisions, and made a big rescue against the odds. I LOVED how he threw himself in front of that bullet for Lois without even thinking. He even got to have a little fun with it and seemed to enjoy himself. He was there for Lois, Jimmy, and Chloe this episode. The guy's all heart. His RBB arc got a big boost and moved along nicely. That last scene was just.. amazing. I'm trying hard here, but I think that scene goes in my top 10 for Iconic scenes on this show ever. Oh how I wish this RBB arc was a weekly thing.

I agree, Clark was Supermanly in this episode, and I loved how Lois gave him a lot of respect by backing down when he firmly told her to bury the Stiletto story! It shows that their relationship has truly evolved. Something I've always said about Clark when he's with Lois' character is that he becomes the alpha male that is so indicative of Superman. I just love their dynamic.


Lois was her typical awesome self. I've seen this debated, but she didn't print that article. She showed the editor her hard copy and he told her he would put it on page 10 unless she could get some photos of Stiletto. Thats why she went to Jimmy to begin with, but after her discussion with Clark she killed the story all together and it was never printed. Small gripe, but just wanted to clear that up. Lois made a mistake, but learned a lesson from it and became a better person because of it. She didn't hide, she fought and made it better. She was insecure because of her recent lack of big stories, and she was willing to go to extremes to get the one-on-one time with the Blur, but because of how good of a person she is - her persistence and heroism paid off. She got the one-one-one time she's wanted and her selflessness has touched Clark. This was her episode, and she got a lot of character development from it.

It was great to see the character development and growth in Lois Lane in this episode. They don't focus on her character nearly enough in this series, and I hope as the show moves into a more iconic Superman type show that they will address this!


Chloe is on a path that she cannot come back from and refuses to learn from her mistakes. She wants to know everyone's secret but refuses to share her own BIG DARK one. She had a chance to tell Clark and Lois what she doing. None of them believed her lies, but they didn't push it. These are two of the only good people she has left in her life and she's pushing them away and acting like a drama queen. No one is forcing her to do what she's doing, and she's had plenty of opportunities to fess up. This isn't a sympathetic character. Her hands were already stained with Sebastian's blood, and now they literally were in this episode. Just as Davis carried those bags of human remains to the dumpster in Bride, she has done so too. That scene was very symbolic of what she's become.

I agree that Chloe had ample opportunites in this episode to do the right thing and tell Clark or Lois about what she's doing. No one is forcing her, and she was out and about during the episode. She is doing this on her own free will and betraying Clark!! When I first watched the scene of her throwing the red and blue trash bags in the dumster with the body parts, I thought it was symbolic of her thowing her friendship with Clark away, and aligning herself with Doomsday. This is yet another viewpoint on the symbolism of that scene, and I agree with you too that she has become an ally of Doomsday. Funny enough you see Lois holding red and blue cards and becoming closer to Clark in this episode. She is saving him while Chloe is doing the exact opposite.


Jimmy was great in his scenes with Lois and in the last Ace of Club scene. How great was that shot of he, Lois, and Clark walking out together? Around Clark and Lois the guy just shines. He and Lois in particular have a good friendship and great comedic chemistry. But I really want this drug addiction stuff to be over with in the next few episodes. I want Jimmy back where he belongs, doing what he does best. This is not right. They wasted him on Chloe for the first half of the season, and now that he's divorced from her they are wasting him on this. I want Jimmy at the DP and only at the DP. Thats who Jimmy Olsen is and always will be. The writers should leave this dark stuff to characters they can afford to screw up. Oh, and some Jimmy/Clark scenes would be nice, or would that turn the world on its axis?

I agree wholeheartedly about the part I bolded and especially underlined!!

And the Clois of course was off the charts. Though Hex was amazing and we got a lot of Clois development from Clark's end, it was Clark and Fois for most of the episode. But in Stiletto they were their real characters and got a lot of time together. They bantered, they found a solution, and they came out of the problem closer than they were before. I really liked that police scanner scene between them, but the last two scenes were what really did it for me. Those scenes were off the charts. They've come a long way since since the LanaIsGod arc, and I don't know how much longer they can be kept apart. Lois was flattered and touched by the things the "RBB" said to her, but the looks she gives Clark are on a completely different level. And Clark is straight up giddy over Lois and I don't know how long he can deny himself. That last look between them at the DP was the best Clois look I've seen in Smallville since the pool dunking scene in Facade.[/quote]

You said it, Cedric!! I loved how they kept the real Clark and Lois in tact yet used the triangle not as a distraction but as a way to bring them closer together! I agree, that look at the DP was off the charts! Facade was terrific, looks in Bride were great as well as Hex, but this was really special, because Clark is openinig his heart to her! He will not be able to deny or fight it in the near future. The love will be too powerful, and they've set the bar high, but then again TW and ED just keep getting better!!

[actaeon]

A very funny & cute episode, I give it an 8. Great character development for Lois, and Clark too. I love her fundamental uncertainty... she wants to do great things but is not quite sure of herself. And she's very protective of being "found out". She has trouble showing humility or gratitude, which is why the "bearclaw" scene was so great... she really has to dig deep within herself to show gratitude to Clark. Which is why it means so much that she does. And the great thing is, Clark knows! These two have such a fabulous relationship... the unspoken understanding between Lois & Clark is epic!

I love Clark's little smile as he turns away just before the ending credits roll! This was a happy episode!

Amazing lines:
"Lois, I'd know it was you with a bag over your head"
"Next time, I call myself Nike"
"I didn't realize you had room for introspection under that costume"
"Look who got hit with a funny bullet"

[Tompouce]

It was a good episode for romance and Clois so I won't complain. I voted a 9 BUT in this episode, the rythme was not good at all. Something was missing. For the rest, well, I am happy Lois learnt a good lesson and she is enough humble to almost recognize it lol.

[Tatiana]

I loved how flirty both Clark and Lois were in the last DP scene, when she was eating the cookie, she got all shy in such a cute way and Tom was really exuding confidence and sexyness as someone else said. I am pretty happy we had a romantic scene between Clark and Lois, and iconic/romance Lois and RBB, I think it was more romance from Clark because Lois was just so impressed with RBB, but he really knows of course they're both the same person, so he was amazed by her feelings twice, as Clark and RBB, he is totally falling for her, his happy face in the end to me said it all. He could have said woohoo! and it wouldn't have made that much of a difference cuz Tom's reaction was very good

[Tompouce]

Tatiana, ITA. It was so delightful. I know what I am going to do all the week : watch again and again the DP scene

[Sweetie]

Loved it.So much superman's vibe in this one.Clois/RBB is beginning which is great.Lois learned her lesson and the last scene was a real treat.I gaved it a 9 because of Chloe.Sorry but,why was she in this episode?I know Allison's contract says so but,really she didn't belong there.All I saw is she is turning into Lana number 2 and this is not good news.

[geminis]

10 for me. Minor quibbles: lighting, gender challenged Shelby; other than that this is so on my repeat watch list.

Helen, Jade, Annie, Cedric: SUPER commentaries. La Donna, looking good in Hawaii and I'm still jealous. Please let me know when you post your review, I'm looking forward to it. Finding time here has been really difficult lately*sniff sniff*, but I still make the time to read long reviews, especially when they are written by masters like Annie, La Donna and Cedric. Helen and Jade you are up and comers like Lois is right now.

Jade, that was a scarf fest!: Lois and Chloe wore scarves, Chloe made a buffet, Lois scarfed Clark's bear claws and Clark ate up Lois with his eyes as she was doing so, and Doomsday scarfed the evil henchman attacking Chloe.

All the Clois was/is/shall be good, Stiletto was no exception. Stiletto was sooo NOT filler. This was 100% Clark Kent and Lois Lane! Be still my heart. Jimmy and Chloe are divorced already?! Sigh. Long sincere opinions can be better than short nasty diatribes. Loved Chloe for pointing out that Clark does not talk about Lana; loved the double entendres of Blur-etto/Clark and Lois, superheroes. Loved Lois and Clark's chests (ah Lois, when you see Superman with that big S on his costume, are you going to call him tacky? I think not, heh heh. OOO, Clark, you didn't have to lift your shirt so high, but thank you for the peekaboo at your long luscious frame.) Jimmy, still frustratingly addicted but also willing to defend Lois - WHY, Chloe? You and Jimmy just gave up on each other. Lois and Clark, however, keep getting closer and closer and they don't even know it.

Wish I had time to put more thought into my review; too distracted by Clark's chest. Plus, I'm off to D.C. to see if I can track down Diana Prince and persuade her to come to Smallville/Metropolis.

[Kid Collins]

This episode was harmless enough. After the darkness of the Doomsday storyline this show does need a bit of lightness. Lois is the comic relief in this show. Make dumb decisions that are suppose to be funny and endearing and the audience is suppose to go aww.

I can get with that if Stilletto was even a little bit original. This ep was boring because of that. Everything was so cliche from Chloe and Lois getting mugged and Lois coming to the rescue, to the hot headed thug whose out for Stilletto to using Green K laden money (WTF) so Clark needs rescuing and Lois realizing and admitting what she did was wrong. No crap Sherlock! Faking a story to get a headline is wrong! She doesn't know that already and she's a journalist? WTF was she thinking? Yeah, my bad, it's all so that Lois can get lesson that any ethical adult would know is wrong in the first place.

I do feel sorry for Chloe. She's way in over head. What is she doing getting rid of Davis' victims and throwing them in the garbage!? Hello, just the smell would alert the garbage man that there's dead somethings in those bags!

That said, Allison Mack was amazing in this ep, her eyes say everything that Chloe is feeling and you just know that she would take back everything if she could and start over. And ED was good with the comic timing that was needed for this ep.

I gave it a 6.

[xrayvision]

"...must be some kind of knife expert." Dectective Clark Kent, 7:10 PM.

You can't make this stuff up. What the hell is he talking about??

He thought Stiletto was a hero who was a master of daggers & switchblades (Stiletto type daggers & switchblades). :)

[lm1212]

Yeah I just realized a stiletto is a type of knife, LOL. I'm surprised the BDA even knew that one.

[HeroesUnlimited]

How is it manufacturing a purpose for her if this storyline was hinted at back in Identity, it is integral to her overall character development as a reporter, and it continues to develop the Lois and Clark relationship?

Actually, it HURT her reputation as a reporter. She lied. She made up a story. When you do stuff like that, it's hard for people to take you seriously.


I think there are many Chloe fans who would disagree with you.

The show is about Clark, not Chloe.

[ginevrakent]

Actually, it HURT her reputation as a reporter. She lied. She made up a story. When you do stuff like that, it's hard for people to take you seriously.


How could it hurt her reputation if the only people who know about it are Clark, Jimmy, and Chloe? She didn't end up publishing her Stiletto story so how did it hurt her reputation?

Again, the only people who know what she did are her friends, and they saw her own up to her mistake. Are we now supposed to not take anyone on this show seriously just because they messed up at one time or another. Well, then Clark can never be taken seriously as Superman because he ran away from his destiny repeatedly, let phantoms out of the phantom zone, etc. Chloe can never be taken seriously as a good person or competent Watchtower because she's advocated and participated in murder and carelessly lost her laptop with her JL information on it. Jimmy can never be taken seriously as a reporter or photographer because he quit his job and is currently battling a drug addiction while moonlighting as a bartender. I suppose I cannot take Martha Kent seriously as a person of integrity because she took money from Lionel Luthor to fund her husband's campaign and advocated lying about it.

Lois messed up, she admitted her error in judgment, and no one outside of her inner circle is aware of what happened. Other Lois Lanes have gone so far as to drug Clark to keep him away from stealing a scoop (comics) and have even stolen stories from Clark (LnC: TNAS). The flawed nature of her character is what has attracted Clark/Superman and audiences for decades, and Smallville's Lois is no different. She's on her journey to becoming the iconic ace reporter we all know, but like Clark, Oliver, and the other characters on the show she's going to make some wrong turns along the way. It's the way she gets back on track that matters, and Lois was just as quick to admit she was wrong and rectify the situation as she was getting into it in the first place.


The show is about Clark, not Chloe.

Then I guess Memoria was a filler episode too. It was all about Lex. Do you think Memoria was a filler episode?

I think the show being about Clark is something the show has forgotten a bit this year. I'm glad we get episodes like Hex and Stiletto that actually show us how Clark is embracing his role as a superhero instead of episodes like Abyss and Eternal which seem to be more about Chloe and Davis than him. Each character deserves a chance to shine, and some episodes are able to accomplish this while simultaneously advancing Clark's story. I think Stiletto was an example of this, and hence it cannot be considered filler in my view.

That isn't to say that there weren't problems with the episode, because I did have issues with how a number of the characters were written and some of the dialogue and pacing was off. Overall I think it was an entertaining episode that helped to progress a number of storylines and break up the morose monotony of the Chlavis episodes.

In short, even supposedly crappy episodes, like Thirst and Stiletto, are important if they develop characters that interact with Clark and ultimately shape his life.

[HeroesUnlimited]

How could it hurt her reputation if the only people who know about it are Clark, Jimmy, and Chloe? She didn't end up publishing her Stiletto story so how did it hurt her reputation?

So if you steal, but don't get caught, then it's OK? She broke some of the most important rules of journalism. Truth. Integrity. Becoming part of the story you're reporting. It was bush league.


Then I guess Memoria was a filler episode too. It was all about Lex. Do you think Memoria was a filler episode?

You're asking the wrong person. I didn't care for that episode either. I think it is overrated.

[ginevrakent]

So if you steal, but don't get caught, then it's OK? She broke some of the most important rules of journalism. Truth. Integrity. Becoming part of the story you're reporting. It was bush league.

Did I ever say what she did was okay? My original comment argued that Stiletto developed the journalism aspect of her character by showing her making a mistake, acknowledging it, and moving on. You were the one who suggested that it hurt her reputation, which I disagreed with simply because it did not hurt her reputation. For her reputation to have been damaged her mistakes would have to have been public, which they weren't. If her reputation with you has been damaged, that would make sense, but the perceptions of her editor, other DP staffers, and her reading public have not been impacted by what happened because they are ignorant to the fact that anything was wrong.

So, what Lois did was wrong. I am not making excuses for it and neither did Lois. Still, the fact that this episode included this experience to teach Lois Lane an important rule of reporting to add to her list makes it not a filler.


You're asking the wrong person. I didn't care for that episode either. I think it is overrated.

Perhaps it is, but it still doesn't make it filler. An episode cannot be filler just because it is poorly written or cheesy or because it focuses on another character or because someone simply does not like it. An episode is only considered filler if it does absolutely nothing to advance the plot or develop the characters that impact the main character.

[Tompouce]

What I like a lot in this epi is how we see that Clark can help Lois to recognize she is wrong and to be more humble. We always say Clark is becoming mature when she is there but in "Stiletto" we can clearly see how Clark' thoughts and comments have an influence on Lois. At the DP, when she begins to say "well, fortunately I was there..."and stops and was unable to say it was him the hero, he just says "you are welcome, Lois". This is exactly what she needs and the way he did it is perfect to help without offending her. I find very interesting how Clark was there for Lois, how all this story leads her to show her emotional side. Clark is magic, it is a fact (lol)

[lifelovedestiny]

10!!! I loved it!!! So sweet and funny and awesome!!!!

[Alicia Chipy]

I got a kick out of Stiletto!

[HeroesUnlimited]

An episode is only considered filler if it does absolutely nothing to advance the plot or develop the characters that impact the main character.

Then you don't believe Smallville has EVER had a "filler" episode then because EVERY episode has had SOMETHING to advance the plot or develop the characters. That's not MY definition of a filler episode by the way. My definition is any episode that:

-is overly corny or cheesy (see Thirst, Ageless, Stilleto)

-does not focus largely on the main story arc of the season

-focuses more on a supporting character than the main character

All three of these apply to Stilletto in my opinion.

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Another thing that bugged the heck out of me about this episode (and Lois's actions) is that she was arrogant enough to write up a list of "rules" that Clark should follow in reporting a story and then SHE turns around and breaks one of journalism's biggest rules. That was a head-scratcher.

[ginevrakent]

Then you don't believe Smallville has EVER had a "filler" episode then because EVERY episode has had SOMETHING to advance the plot or develop the characters. That's not MY definition of a filler episode by the way. My definition is any episode that:

-is overly corny or cheesy (see Thirst, Ageless, Stilleto)

-does not focus largely on the main story arc of the season

-focuses more on a supporting character than the main character

All three of these apply to Stilletto in my opinion.

I think I will quote my buddy Annie on this one:


According to Wiki-Answers:


A 'filler episode' is one in which there is no plot development.

Good filler episodes generally keep with the tone of the overall series while developing the original cast.

Some examples of filler episodes may include, flashbacks and recaps where events up to the current point are once again stated or summarized, introduction of new and strange characters or side-stories though sometimes this may have influence in the outcome of the series as a whole, random conflicts that are resolved in a single episode are sure signs of a filler episode...By that definition I have to say this season Abyss, Power and even Requiem have been filler episodes. When it comes to Stiletto, not so much. I think the thought is that, since the Doomsday storyline is the main plot taking us to the finale, an episode that isn't focussed on that as the 'A' plot is therefore a 'filler'. However, whether people enjoy the other plots that have been explored this season or not, the fact is those story-lines exist and are part of the bigger overall story of Clark Kent's journey to becoming Superman. Stiletto dealt with that journey, it dealt with the RBB storyline, it dealt with the love story between Lois and Clark, it dealt with this seasons theme of secret identities AND it dealt with part of the Doomsday/Chloe storyline. It DID NOT do it with flashbacks, recaps or a summary of what has already happened beyond the usual opening recap and apart from the character of Bruno Mannheim – who may or may not return as part of an Intergang storyline in season nine – it did not introduce strange characters unless we count Lois dressed a Stiletto. It also didn't use random conflicts. So this episode WAS NOT A FILLER.


Just because Stiletto matches your definition of a filler episode does not make it so.


Another thing that bugged the heck out of me about this episode (and Lois's actions) is that she was arrogant enough to write up a list of "rules" that Clark should follow in reporting a story and then SHE turns around and breaks one of journalism's biggest rules. That was a head-scratcher.

Well, you've just identified one of Lois Lane's most iconic traits. Lois Lane is always breaking rules. On Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, THLois gives DCClark her own set of rules. She later admits breaking all of them, including sleeping with an editor and stealing stories.

[Sarevokcz]

-does not focus largely on the main story arc of the season


by your definition, what would be main story of s5, s6 or s7?

s5 - Brainiac/Zod?, which means everything, that happened between Solitude and Hypnotic were fillers? Clana? again, alot of epis werent even close to being focused on them. JKs death? meaning everything post Vengance up to Oracle were fillers?
s6 - Either Clexana or Zoners, which would mean that if one was the main story, the second were fillers? Either Promise or Combat was a filler?
s7 - Kara? Clana? Brainiac? and the other stories again fillers?

why alot epis arent fillers? because those seasons had more than 1 main story, just like s8

considering 3 main stories of this season were supposed to be Double identities, Clark and Lois, and Doomsday, i can easily say this one had all 3 main stories, with more focus on Clark and Lois relationship and his RBB persona and less focus on DD/Chlavis.

Yes, Stiletto had its flaws, it was starting slow and was cheesy few times it certainly wasnt the best written episode this season, but it had all 3 main season arcs and focused on 1 main arc of the whole show, Clark > Supes progression, thus it cant really be called filler, just like basically whole 1st half of the season werent fillers, just because they didnt have focus set at Davis story, but at the Clarks story, his development of his double identity and relationship with Lois.

[ginevrakent]

Then you don't believe Smallville has EVER had a "filler" episode then because EVERY episode has had SOMETHING to advance the plot or develop the characters. That's not MY definition of a filler episode by the way. My definition is any episode that:

-is overly corny or cheesy (see Thirst, Ageless, Stilleto)

-does not focus largely on the main story arc of the season

-focuses more on a supporting character than the main character

All three of these apply to Stilletto in my opinion.

Well, I think some come closer to being true fillers than others. If I were to rank Stiletto's fillerish nature on a scale of 1-5 (with 5 being the most like a true filler), I'd probably give it a 2 or 3. Mainly because the official definition of filler does not include how cheesy or corny an episode is. I also think that Stiletto did focus largely on the main story of this season, which is Clark embracing his destiny as a superhero. On the one hand, we have Tess and Oliver saying to fulfill his destiny Clark has to experience his "island" (Oliver to Clark in Toxic) or his Judas (Tess to Clark in Eternal). On the other hand we have Clark doing the real work of becoming a superhero, developing his public persona, and building his iconic relationship with his future wife Lois Lane (events related to this development occurred in Identity, Infamous, and Stiletto).

While Lois did get more screentime than Clark in this episode, I think Clark did get a decent amount of focus. Seeing him proactively go after the thug who hurt and stole from Chloe, seeing him staying tuned to his police scanner and stopping thieves, learning from Lois that Clark is "doing better than anyone expected" as a reporter, seeing him interact with his mythos pals (Lois and Jimmy), and finally speak out as the RBB all provided great insight into him as a character and his progression. We even got to learn more about how he's dealing with Lana being gone and the beginnings of what will later transpire between him, Chloe, and Davis in Beast and beyond.

I think Clark as a character got a lot of focus and growth out of this episode, in general, but also in part because of Lois. I respect your opinion, though.


Another thing that bugged the heck out of me about this episode (and Lois's actions) is that she was arrogant enough to write up a list of "rules" that Clark should follow in reporting a story and then SHE turns around and breaks one of journalism's biggest rules. That was a head-scratcher.

It was a headscratcher, because it was meant to be so. We were meant to see that Lois in her weakness and rush to get a headline, neglected her own values. Clark, Jimmy, and Chloe knew that it wasn't true to who Lois was and chastised her for it, and you know what? Lois listened. She relented, and owned up to her mistake, and now she's better and stronger as a result.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Just because Stiletto matches your definition of a filler episode does not make it so.

And just because you say that it isn't doesn't mean that it isn't.


Well, you've just identified one of Lois Lane's most iconic traits. Lois Lane is always breaking rules.

So that part about making up news, that's OK then? The rules exist for a reason.

[lex fan 10]

wow lois can fight good episode.and chloe and davis and the dead people cool.clark got shot the only park i dident like.but very good episode

[HeroesUnlimited]

by your definition, what would be main story of s5, s6 or s7?

Season 5 - Brainiac

Season 6 - The escaped Phantoms, the Lex/Lana relationship, Green Arrow

Season 7 - Kara, Bizzaro, Veritas



thus it cant really be called filler

I can call it a filler.

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While Lois did get more screentime than Clark in this episode, I think Clark did get a decent amount of focus.

That shouldn't ever happen. The main character SHOULD get the most screen time.

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It was a headscratcher, because it was meant to be so. We were meant to see that Lois in her weakness and rush to get a headline, neglected her own values. Clark, Jimmy, and Chloe knew that it wasn't true to who Lois was and chastised her for it, and you know what? Lois listened. She relented, and owned up to her mistake, and now she's better and stronger as a result.

That's enough to get you fired.

[ginevrakent]

And just because you say that it isn't doesn't mean that it isn't.

Precisely. It's just I'm basing my conclusion that Stiletto wasn't filler on the actual definition of a filler episode while you are going by your own definition.


So that part about making up news, that's OK then? The rules exist for a reason.

Again, stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that it was OK for Lois to fabricate a story, I said that it was typical for her character based on what other versions of Lois Lane have done. I'm not validating what she did at all, I'm simply saying that it makes sense based on her character in other media and based on the fact that we were shown her learning from her mistakes.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Precisely. It's just I'm basing my conclusion that Stiletto wasn't filler on the actual definition of a filler episode while you are going by your own definition.

With all due respect, you found one definition of a "filler" episode that fit an opinion you already had.


Again, stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that it was OK for Lois to fabricate a story, I said that it was typical for her character based on what other versions of Lois Lane have done. I'm not validating what she did at all, I'm simply saying that it makes sense based on her character in other media and based on the fact that we were shown her learning from her mistakes.

You do seem to be romanticizing what she did as if "breaking the rules" is an admirable trait. And for what it's worth, I don't think this fits her character at all. The Lois Lane I know from other media is honest. She cares more about the truth and integrity. This Lois Lane behaved like a tabloid reporter.

FYI - I created another thread specifically about whether or not Stilleto is a "filler" (with a poll).

[Sarevokcz]

Season 5 - Brainiac

Season 6 - The escaped Phantoms, the Lex/Lana relationship, Green Arrow

Season 7 - Kara, Bizzaro, Veritas


I can call it a filler.


s6 and s7, by your own words, had multiple stories, and when you consider Bizzaro as one of the main arcs, when he was in 3 epis, i cant see, why RBB, which was there for more epis, or Clois relationship, which was progressed in all episodes Lois was in and had several of those Epis heavily focused on Clark and Lois, cant be considered also as two of this season main story arcs, especially, when it was said by producers at the beggining of the season.

You can call it a filler, but you havent present anything "filler worthy" yet, because, like it or not, DD is not the only arc of this season and Stiletto focused on all main arcs.

Either we can discuss, why RBB or Clois arent main arcs of this season, thus Stiletto would be filler, or you can just say "its a filler" without any real proof. in that case, its useless for anyone to discuss it with you, so i will leave it at that, becuase im not interested in discussing something with someone who isnt even trying to discuss it.


With all due respect, you found one definition of a "filler" episode that fit an opinion you already had.




with all due respect, you didnt even try to find one, you just made one, which fits only your idea

[Ella]

I can call it a filler.
You can call the episode anything you want, but it doesn't make it true. ;)

[ginevrakent]

That shouldn't ever happen. The main character SHOULD get the most screen time.

Yet, it has multiple times due to focus on multiple characters. See this list developed by Annie with the help of screentime totals and averages supplied by BadToad and AgentChaos, respectively:


Toxic (Oliver backstory) - Clark: 16m 1s, Oliver: 24m 49s (Clark 8m 48s less) Abyss (Chloe flashbacks) - Clark: 20m 57s, Chloe 29m 46s (Clark 8m 49s less)
Power (Lana flashbacks) - Clark: 15m 2s, Lana 20m 15s (Clark 5m 13s less)
Hex (Chloe-centric) - Clark 22m 41s, Chloe 26m 57s (Clark 4m 16s less)
Eternal (Davis backstory) - Clark 16m 1s, Davis 22m 42s (Clark 6m 41s less)
Stiletto (Lois-centric) - Clark 18m 56s, Lois 22m 48s (Clark 3m 52s less)



That's enough to get you fired.

Not if the story never went to print.

You know what can get you fired, even arrested? Illegally hacking into government databases, killing people, covering up murders (all Chloe) or kidnapping and torturing people like Lana did to Lionel or Clark who stole things while on RedK. Characters on this show make mistakes when under the influence of a combination of their own emotions (yeah those darned flawed human emotions Jor-El always warns Clark about) and sometimes some entity or substance like RedK or Brainiac. Yet, it's the emotion which drives the action. Lois' ambition and desire to speak with the RBB to tell him she'd wanted to be the Barney to his Fred overrode the better angels of her nature. Chloe's desire to protect Clark has driven her to kill and now hide a killer. Oliver's pain and anger over the murder of his parents drove him to revenge. Clark's pain drove him to put that RedK ring on and behave destructively in Metropolis.

Characters, and people in real life, make mistakes. Lois made a mistake, but it allowed her to grow as a result; just as Lana, Clark, Chloe, and Oliver have or will learn and grow from their mistakes.

[HeroesUnlimited]

s6 and s7, by your own words, had multiple stories, and when you consider Bizzaro as one of the main arcs, when he was in 3 epis, i cant see, why RBB, which was there for more epis, or Clois relationship, which was progressed in all episodes Lois was in and had several of those Epis heavily focused on Clark and Lois, cant be considered also as two of this season main story arcs, especially, when it was said by producers at the beggining of the season.

You can call it a filler, but you havent present anything "filler worthy" yet, because, like it or not, DD is not the only arc of this season and Stiletto focused on all main arcs.

Either we can discuss, why RBB or Clois arent main arcs of this season, thus Stiletto would be filler, or you can just say "its a filler" without any real proof. in that case, its useless for anyone to discuss it with you, so i will leave it at that, becuase im not interested in discussing something with someone who isnt even trying to discuss it.

I never said The Red Blue Blur isn't a major story arc this season (or even Clark's budding relationship with Lois). What makes this a filler episode is that it shifted the focus away from Clark and onto Lois, meanwhile painting Lois in a "silly" and even negative light (much like Thirst did to Lana). Not only did they make Lois do something ridiculous (pretend to be a vigilantee), they had her lie at her profession by making up stories. If you could somehow remove the Stiletto character from the Stilleto episode, then I'd say that it WASN'T a filler. They used a gimmick and to me, that screams filler. I've been saying this all along. If you're claiming I haven't provided any reasons to support my opinion, it's probably because you haven't been paying close enough attention.

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You can call the episode anything you want, but it doesn't make it true. ;)

and vice versa

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with all due respect, you didnt even try to find one, you just made one, which fits only your idea

Why is that a bad thing? To be able to think for one's self I mean...

[Ella]

Actually, it HURT her reputation as a reporter. She lied. She made up a story. When you do stuff like that, it's hard for people to take you seriously.

Lois Lane has been breaking rules and taking names since 1938. She has fabricated stories, stolen stories, lied, manipulated, broken into places, etc. And alongside her for most of this action has been Clark Kent (aka Mr. Superman) and has rarely done anything to stop her. In fact, the most he has ever done is lecture her when half of the time he actually helps her break into places or lie to people. Not to mention that once in the DP Clark Kent often publishes his OWN stories about Superman and constantly lies to everyone about how he gets the information. This entire story is based on lies. The point of the matter is that Clark Kent lies in order to serve a greater purpose, truth and justice. And that is why Lois Lane does what she does as well. It's not about keeping her reputation intact, it's about seeking out truth and justice. Does she want to be the best reporter? Does she want a Pulitzer? You betcha! But what she wants more is to save the world by exposing the truth. And that is why she succeeds as a character.

[ginevrakent]

With all due respect, you found one definition of a "filler" episode that fit an opinion you already had.


Well, at least I didn't make one up.


You do seem to be romanticizing what she did as if "breaking the rules" is an admirable trait. And for what it's worth, I don't think this fits her character at all. The Lois Lane I know from other media is honest. She cares more about the truth and integrity. This Lois Lane behaved like a tabloid reporter.

FYI - I created another thread specifically about whether or not Stilleto is a "filler" (with a poll).

No, I am not romanticizing anything. I'm not saying it's admirable, I just said it was typical. THLois stole stories, stole questions for the President, and tried to capitalize on Clark's pain of being robbed all to get headlines. ComicsLois has slipped Clark Kent sedatives so she could get a scoop and even faked car accidents to get Superman's attention. Besides, we are dealing with a Lois Lane who is on a journey to becoming that grown Lois from other media. She is allowed to make mistakes on her way to becoming a star reporter just as many figures both in real life and fiction have done for centuries.

Thanks for the new thread. We were getting off topic.

[Sarevokcz]

I never said The Red Blue Blur isn't a major story arc this season (or even Clark's budding relationship with Lois). What makes this a filler episode is that it shifted the focus away from Clark and onto Lois, meanwhile painting Lois in a "silly" and even negative light (much like Thirst did to Lana). Not only did they make Lois do something ridiculous (pretend to be a vigilantee), they had her lie at her profession by making up stories. If you could somehow remove the Stiletto character from the Stilleto episode, then I'd say that it WASN'T a filler. They used a gimmick and to me, that screams filler. I've been saying this all along. If you're claiming I haven't provided any reasons to support my opinion, it's probably because you haven't been paying close enough attention.


you didnt like the gimmick, thats fine, i wasnt too fond of it, either, but that doesnt make it a filler, it makes it not well written main plot of episode. episodes can be bad, yet pivotal, can focus on other character alot, yet still not be fillers, but if it progress Clarks journey (and imho this one made it quite alot), it cant be, by anyone really obejctive, called filler.




Why is that a bad thing? To be able to think for one's self I mean...

the bad thing is, you present it like a generally known definition of a filler, yet contradicts yourself, since you said, that episode has to be filler, if doesnt focus on on main season story arc, yet, also you said, that RBB is one of the main story arcs and you didnt like only the gimmick.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Not if the story never went to print.

Again, not getting caught doesn't mean she didn't do it. She's playing a dangerous game, performing her job that way.




You know what can get you fired, even arrested? Illegally hacking into government databases, killing people, covering up murders (all Chloe)

Who is Chloe working for?


Lois' ambition and desire to speak with the RBB to tell him she'd wanted to be the Barney to his Fred overrode the better angels of her nature. Chloe's desire to protect Clark has driven her to kill and now hide a killer.

Chloe is a Smallville invention. She is who they make her to be. Lois isn't. She's been around for ages and has an established "character". This is not what Lois does. It was out of character for her. Frankly, it was a poorly written episode. it's like they're buying time until the finale.

[Ella]

So that part about making up news, that's OK then? The rules exist for a reason.
Clark Kent makes up the news all the time in the comics by publish stories about himself in the disguise of Clark Kent. Rules exist for a reason but this is a work of fiction and all the lying in the world for either Lois or Clark isn't going to taint their characters.

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Chloe is a Smallville invention. She is who they make her to be. Lois isn't. She's been around for ages and has an established "character". This is not what Lois does. It was out of character for her. Frankly, it was a poorly written episode. it's like they're buying time until the finale.
This is not what Lois Lane does? Lois has gone as far as even trying to steal Clark Kent's own stories! lol This IS Lois Lane.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Lois Lane has been breaking rules and taking names since 1938. She has fabricated stories, stolen stories, lied, manipulated, broken into places, etc.

She has a history of making up stories? OK, I call your bluff. Please provide some examples.

[Ella]

No, I am not romanticizing anything. I'm not saying it's admirable, I just said it was typical. THLois stole stories, stole questions for the President, and tried to capitalize on Clark's pain of being robbed all to get headlines. ComicsLois has slipped Clark Kent sedatives so she could get a scoop and even faked car accidents to get Superman's attention. Besides, we are dealing with a Lois Lane who is on a journey to becoming that grown Lois from other media. She is allowed to make mistakes on her way to becoming a star reporter just as many figures both in real life and fiction have done for centuries.


Exactly. Take it from the die-hard Lois Lane fans. This kind of stuff ain't pretty but it's totally Lois Lane. That's part of her flawed character. She tends to do just about anything to get the scoop!

[HeroesUnlimited]

Well, at least I didn't make one up.

How do you know the person whose definition you quoted didn't "make it up"? You looked in a WIKI, right? That's all public-provided content. I don't think there really is one set definition of a "filler episode". You can try Webster's, but I don't think you'll find one.

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No, I am not romanticizing anything. I'm not saying it's admirable, I just said it was typical.

It's NOT typical. Lois doesn't make up stories. She cares about the truth. Integrity.

[ginevrakent]

Again, not getting caught doesn't mean she didn't do it. She's playing a dangerous game, performing her job that way.

I KNOW THAT. You said that doing something like that could get her fired, but since she didn't DO anything officially then there was never the chance of her getting fired. Moreover, I, Lois, and the other characters all agree that she was taking an unfortunate risk in her pursuit of her story. She made a mistake, paid for it, and is now moving on.


Who is Chloe working for?

I said she could get fired, even arrested for things, then listed something like hacking which would have gotten her fired back in S7 and her other misdeeds this season which should get her arrested.


Chloe is a Smallville invention. She is who they make her to be. Lois isn't. She's been around for ages and has an established "character". This is not what Lois does. It was out of character for her. Frankly, it was a poorly written episode. it's like they're buying time until the finale.

Clark Kent is an established character yet they do questionable things for his character as well. Besides, Lois in other media is like this so it's not really that out of character; especially for a young version of Lois which has never been depicted on screen before.

I admit the writing was poor at times, but it didn't feel like they were buying time. A lot of progress was made in this episode and a few memorable scenes can be taken away from it. All in all, I'd say it was a success.

[HeroesUnlimited]

you didnt like the gimmick, thats fine

Thank you for proving my point. Even YOU admit the episode used a "gimmick". That screams "filler".

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the bad thing is, you present it like a generally known definition of a filler, yet contradicts yourself, since you said, that episode has to be filler, if doesnt focus on on main season story arc, yet, also you said, that RBB is one of the main story arcs and you didnt like only the gimmick.

First of all, there's no such thing as a "generally known definition of a filler". Second, you said to back up my opinion and I did. I provided a list of criteria of what makes something a "filler" and I related those to this particular episode.

[ginevrakent]

Thank you for proving my point. Even YOU admit the episode used a "gimmick". That screams "filler".

Nope. Gimmick does not equal a filler.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Clark Kent makes up the news all the time in the comics by publish stories about himself in the disguise of Clark Kent. Rules exist for a reason but this is a work of fiction and all the lying in the world for either Lois or Clark isn't going to taint their characters.

Clark is different. He IS the news. He does his thing as Superman, then reports what happens. In his case, it's ACTUAL news. In Lois's case, she invented Stilleto.


This is not what Lois Lane does? Lois has gone as far as even trying to steal Clark Kent's own stories! lol This IS Lois Lane.

There's a difference between "scooping" someone and making up news.

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Exactly. Take it from the die-hard Lois Lane fans. This kind of stuff ain't pretty but it's totally Lois Lane. That's part of her flawed character. She tends to do just about anything to get the scoop!

I've been reading Superman comics for over 20 years. I know what's "normal" for Lois Lane. This isn't it.

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She made a mistake, paid for it, and is now moving on.

How did she pay for it? How was she punished?

[Dresden]

Sigh. Here we go again, demanding that Smallville's Lois Lane live up to standards that none of the other Lois Lane incarnations have lived up to and that her counterpart Clark Kent has not lived up to.


She broke some of the most important rules of journalism. Truth. Integrity. Becoming part of the story you're reporting. It was bush league. So let me ask you this, do you think that Lois fabricating a story to get the scoop on the Red-Blue Blur is worse than what Clark Kent does in the comics on a daily basis when he constantly uses his alter ego persona of Superman to publish exclusive articles under his own name and continually feeds Lois Lane special insight and information so that she too can publish exclusive Superman interviews? Giving both himself and Lois exclusives doesn't exactly sound like something that someone full of integrity would do. Nor does it particularly adhere to the ethics of journalism since at the root of all this is one big lie. But what's worse is that out of so many journalist out there, he continually gives Lois Lane all the exclusives and big interviews. A little biased, isn't he? I'm sure it wouldn't have anything to do with him being in love with her. Oh wait, that's exactly it. So it seems like Clark Kent isnt quite so super when it comes to being all about truth and integrity.

[ginevrakent]

How do you know the person whose definition you quoted didn't "make it up"? You looked in a WIKI, right? That's all public-provided content. I don't think there really is one set definition of a "filler episode". You can try Webster's, but I don't think you'll find one.

Until you can provide a non-subjective definition of a filler episode, then the WIKI one is unfortunately the most reliable source.


It's NOT typical. Lois doesn't make up stories. She cares about the truth. Integrity.

Iconic Lois Lane in current comic book continuity who is a Pulitzer Prize winner and has reached the upper echelons of her profession cares about truth and integrity. We are seeing Lois at the beginning of this journey. How do we know that this experience is not the impetus for her future commitment to truth and integrity?

Besides, since she quickly recognized her mistake, she did everything she could to rectify it by killing the story. Thus Lois Lane has never printed a made up story, and cannot be accused of having a lack of integrity. Someone with integrity, for example, acknowledges her mistakes and grows from them. Lois did this in Stiletto.

[Dresden]

There's a difference between "scooping" someone and making up news.


Well of course there is a difference but fundamentally speaking what is the difference between making up the news and stealing a story? Both show a lack of integrity. Both are things that Lois Lane has done.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Sigh. Here we go again, demanding that Smallville's Lois Lane live up to standards that none of the other Lois Lane incarnations have lived up to and that her counterpart Clark Kent has not lived up to.

So let me ask you this, do you think that Lois fabricating a story to get the scoop on the Red-Blue Blur is worse than what Clark Kent does in the comics on a daily basis when he constantly uses his alter ego persona of Superman to publish exclusive articles under his own name and continually feeds Lois Lane special insight and information so that she too can publish exclusive Superman interviews? Giving both himself and Lois exclusives doesn't exactly sound like something that someone full of integrity would do. Nor does it particularly adhere to the ethics of journalism since at the root of all this is one big lie. But what's worse is that out of so many journalist out there, he continually gives Lois Lane all the exclusives and big interviews. A little biased, isn't he? I'm sure it wouldn't have anything to do with him being in love with her. Oh wait, that's exactly it. So it seems like Clark Kent isnt quite so super when it comes to being all about truth and integrity.

The main difference, of course, being that Superman is REAL NEWS. Stilletto is made up.

[Dresden]

Clark is different. He IS the news. He does his thing as Superman, then reports what happens. In his case, it's ACTUAL news. In Lois's case, she invented Stilleto.


Clark Kent continually hand picks Lois and gives her special treatment when it comes to giving out Superman exclusives. Is that something that someone with real integrity would do? Give special treatment to someone just because you are in love with them?

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The main difference, of course, being that Superman is REAL NEWS. Stilletto is made up.

Fundamentally the argument is that Lois is showing a lack of ethics and integrity. Comparing the actual situation would be comparing apples and oranges. The point I'm making is that Superman, the man who is supposed to be the icon of truth and integrity, has continually committed actions that make him seem anything but that.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Until you can provide a non-subjective definition of a filler episode, then the WIKI one is unfortunately the most reliable source.

Of course YOU'RE going to think it's the most reliable source since if agrees with you. By the way, why do I need a non subjective definition for something that clearly IS subjective?

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Well of course there is a difference but fundamentally speaking what is the difference between making up the news and stealing a story? Both show a lack of integrity. Both are things that Lois Lane has done.

There's a HUGE difference. One is dishonest, the other is not. Scooping someone shows initiative. There's nothing wrong with being first. There is something wrong with making it up.

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Clark Kent continually hand picks Lois and gives her special treatment when it comes to giving out Superman exclusives. Is that something that someone with real integrity would do? Give special treatment to someone just because you are in love with them?

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Fundamentally the argument is that Lois is showing a lack of ethics and integrity. Comparing the actual situation would be comparing apples and oranges. The point I'm making is that Superman, the man who is supposed to be the icon of truth and integrity, has continually committed actions that make him seem anything but that.

Why is it dishonest to tell your own story? Ever hear of an autobiography?

[ginevrakent]

Clark is different. He IS the news. He does his thing as Superman, then reports what happens. In his case, it's ACTUAL news. In Lois's case, she invented Stilleto.

Yet, Stiletto actually did all of the things that Lois was set to write about. She existed and she fought Mannheim's thugs twice.

Didn't Clark "invent" Superman?


There's a difference between "scooping" someone and making up news.

So making up stories is worse than plagiarism? I think they are pretty much equal.


I've been reading Superman comics for over 20 years. I know what's "normal" for Lois Lane. This isn't it.

We are not talking about the Lois Lane from the comic books you have been reading for 20 years. We are talking about a young Lois Lane who makes mistakes, stumbles, and grows into the journalist we know and love in the mythos. Why does every other character get a free pass, but Lois Lane must be a perfect canon embodiment of her iconic self who won't even exist for several years?


How did she pay for it? How was she punished?

Her best friends were brutally beaten and attacked. She was chastised by Clark, Chloe, and Jimmy. What else do you want?

[Sarevokcz]

Clark is different. He IS the news. He does his thing as Superman, then reports what happens. In his case, it's ACTUAL news. In Lois's case, she invented Stilleto.


she didnt print it, she was WRONG, Jimmy, Clark and Chloe, all have called her on it, she "got it" by her own words, that she messed up and tried to fix her mistakes. whole point of her second persona was to show, that she makes mistakes, but also learns form them, something, what wasnt shown for other characters that much

[Dresden]

Why is it dishonest to tell your own story? Ever hear of an autobiography?

Oh, so is this also YOUR OWN personal definition of an autobiography, too? Because Clark Kent pretending to be two different people and then having one of those people benefit secretly out of the another one doesn't really fit into what a typical autobiography is. But you're ignoring the other part of my statement. How is it part of Clark Kent's autobiography to give Lois Lane special treatment and give her constant exclusives? What part of that screams out truth and integrity. He loves the woman so he gives her all the news about Superman. Yeah, that sounds like someone really following the code of journalism...

[ginevrakent]

Of course YOU'RE going to think it's the most reliable source since if agrees with you. By the way, why do I need a non subjective definition for something that clearly IS subjective?

How do you know I agree with the definition? Can you read my mind?

The definition of something is not subjective. If that were the case, then I declare that all Clana episodes were filler because every scene was repetitive and inconsequential since Clark doesn't end up with her.


There's a HUGE difference. One is dishonest, the other is not. Scooping someone shows initiative. There's nothing wrong with being first. There is something wrong with making it up.

We are not discussing scooping, we are talking about literally stealing Clark's story. Do you think it shows initiative if I steal my friends research paper and hand it in as my own work?


Why is it dishonest to tell your own story? Ever hear of an autobiography?

It is dishonest when you are not writing it as an autobiography, but rather claiming that you are getting exclusive interviews with yourself.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Yet, Stiletto actually did all of the things that Lois was set to write about. She existed and she fought Mannheim's thugs twice.

Didn't Clark "invent" Superman?

Superman is an actual hero. He has powers and he saves people. Lois, for all intents and purposes put on a Halloween costume. Fighting those thugs was never her intention.




We are not talking about the Lois Lane from the comic books you have been reading for 20 years. We are talking about a young Lois Lane who makes mistakes, stumbles, and grows into the journalist we know and love in the mythos. Why does every other character get a free pass, but Lois Lane must be a perfect canon embodiment of her iconic self who won't even exist for several years?

Clark has basically remained the same person (morally) from childhood to adulthood. Being young means you make mistakes, yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean you lie or cheat.


Her best friends were brutally beaten and attacked. She was chastised by Clark, Chloe, and Jimmy. What else do you want?

Well, in the real world, you get fired for pulling that stuff.

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she didnt print it, she was WRONG, Jimmy, Clark and Chloe, all have called her on it, she "got it" by her own words, that she messed up and tried to fix her mistakes. whole point of her second persona was to show, that she makes mistakes, but also learns form them, something, what wasnt shown for other characters that much

She should have been fired for even trying it.

[Dresden]

Her best friends were brutally beaten and attacked. She was chastised by Clark, Chloe, and Jimmy. What else do you want?

I want Lois Lane to be flayed on the show and then for Chloe to take over her identity. Oops, you weren't asking ME were you? Hehe. Won't happen again.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Oh, so is this also YOUR OWN personal definition of an autobiography, too? Because Clark Kent pretending to be two different people and then having one of those people benefit secretly out of the another one doesn't really fit into what a typical autobiography is. But you're ignoring the other part of my statement. How is it part of Clark Kent's autobiography to give Lois Lane special treatment and give her constant exclusives? What part of that screams out truth and integrity. He loves the woman so he gives her all the news about Superman. Yeah, that sounds like someone really following the code of journalism...

Celebrities can always pick and chose who they give interviews to. With regard to Clark writing his own story, I'm guessing it has more to do with "image" than gaining any kind of professional edge. He doesn't want the public to get the wrong impression of what he's about. Allowing another journalist to write his story could end up being a huge mistake, especially in the world we live in now where everyone is looking for any "dirt" they can find to cut people down with.

[ChlarkerFan]

She should have been fired for even trying it.

And Lana Lang should have gone to prison for her crimes, and Chloe Sullivan should have never made it back into the Daily Planet after her pact with Lionel Luthor, and Clark Kent should have gone to prison after his crime spree in Metropolis in season 3. What the characters SHOULD have happen to them rarely happens. At least here we had Lois Lane taking responsibly for her actions and admitting that's he was wrong which is a rare occurrence here. Not to mention that the rest of the characters frowned upon it and did not excuse her actions.

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Celebrities can always pick and chose who they give interviews to. With regard to Clark writing his own story, I'm guessing it has more to do with "image" than gaining any kind of professional edge. He doesn't want the public to get the wrong impression of what he's about. Allowing another journalist to write his story could end up being a huge mistake, especially in the world we live in now where everyone is looking for any "dirt" they can find to cut people down with.

And Lois didn't create Stiletto for her own "image" either. She did it to get to the truth of who RBB was. It was wrong but it was a way to get to the truth of a great story. She's the kind of character that often does crazy and stupid things to accomplish this same feat, unless we think that jumping off a building wasn't crazy/stupid. :lol:

[ginevrakent]

Superman is an actual hero. He has powers and he saves people. Lois, for all intents and purposes put on a Halloween costume. Fighting those thugs was never her intention.

She didn't intend to save Chloe? She didn't intend to save Clark and Jimmy?


Clark has basically remained the same person (morally) from childhood to adulthood. Being young means you make mistakes, yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean you lie or cheat.

What about the time he purposefully dosed himself with RedK and proceeded to become a criminal in Metropolis during the summer between his sophomore and junior year of high school? What about proposing to a pregnant woman on her wedding day?


Well, in the real world, you get fired for pulling that stuff.

She didn't print the story so there was no reason to fire her.


She should have been fired for even trying it.

Then I guess I should have been expelled from high school because I once thought about copying my twin sister's homework and had even copied the lab report before I ultimately decided to just take the zero anyway.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Hey guys, this has been fun. Even though it would appear that I'm seriously outnumbered on this, it's still been fun. We disagree and it's cool. I have a feeling that we've gotten to the point that each side is starting to repeat itself. With that in mind, I think we should just agree to disagree. It's totally cool. Enjoy the rest of the season! :)

[ChlarkerFan]

Superman is an actual hero. He has powers and he saves people. Lois, for all intents and purposes put on a Halloween costume. Fighting those thugs was never her intention.



Lois is an actual hero, but I guess that depends on *your* definition, too. She will do anything for those she loves and she doesn't hesitate to put her own life on the line if she sees someone in trouble. To me that is a *real hero*. Having super powers means nothing. It just adds the *super* part to hero which doesn't make you that special. Ordinary people in my book are more special. :)

[ginevrakent]

Well, in the real world, you get fired for pulling that stuff.

Since when was Smallville--a fantasy sci-fi show, based on comics, and on the CW realistic? Heck, when has the Superman story ever been told with proper realism?

Anyway, here's some info about Lois and journalism:

"She's very much Lois Lane in terms of aggressiveness, but she's still honing her craft, figuring out how to get the story. She's growing to that point. By the end of the series, you will see her fully developed."


Source: Miles Millar, Smallville Magazine, Issue 19, p. 24


Lois Lane is also referred to as “Clark Kent’s rival reporter at the Daily Planet” (Act No. 176, Jan 1953: “Muscles for Money”). Indeed, the rivalry between these “two famed reporters” (Act No. 58, Mar 1943: “The Face of Adonis!”) is a keen one. Lois, in particular, is fiercely, sometimes unscrupulously, competitive, resorting to such tactics as intercepting Kent’s telephone messages (S No. 14, Jan/Feb 1942; and others), sending him off on wild-goose chases (Act No. 5, Oct 1938; and others), and even seducing him into letting her accompany him on an interview and then slipping knockout drops into his drink so that she can cover the story alone(Act No.6, Nov 1938).


Source: Supermanica’s coverage of Michael L. Fleisher’s (1978) The Great Superman Book

Lois & Clark: Forget Me Not
Lois Lane: First I break in, now I'm about to go through this man's office. How can something so wrong feel so right?

Lois & Clark: Ides of Metropolis
Lois bribes a guard with football tickets and says she’s “broken all the rules“

Lois & Clark: The Rival
Steals story about a broken elevator cable from Clark out of jealousy and desperation against her rival, Linda King

Lois & Clark: The Phoenix
Lois steals Clark’s question for her interview with the POTUS

Lois & Clark: Lucky Leon
Lois impersonates Mayson Drake, a Metropolis District Attorney

[ChlarkerFan]

Then I guess I should have been expelled from high school because I once thought about copying my twin sister's homework and had even copied the lab report before I ultimately decided to just take the zero anyway.

That's the thing with saying a character *should* have this and that. Who are we to judge? The first person/character with a clean slate toss the first stone. Oh, what is it? No there to toss a stone? Yeah, thought so. ;)

[ginevrakent]

Hey guys, this has been fun. Even though it would appear that I'm seriously outnumbered on this, it's still been fun. We disagree and it's cool. I have a feeling that we've gotten to the point that each side is starting to repeat itself. With that in mind, I think we should just agree to disagree. It's totally cool. Enjoy the rest of the season! :)

Okay. I hope you enjoy the remainder of the season as well :)!

[Sarevokcz]

She should have been fired for even trying it.

so should Lex be in prison for all those cloning stuff, Spaceship stuff, 33.1 stuff
so should Lana be in prison for the crimes she commited in Wrath or for being the one behind torturing Lionel
so should Chloe be in prison for hacking FBI, NASA, harboring mass murderer
so should Oliver for murdering "Lex"
so should Tess for murdering the island guy and Regan
so should Davis for being mass murderer
so should Clark for like bilion times of breaking and entering, for stealing crime scene material and lots of other stuff, what he did in those years

what makes the difference here, is that Lois took the blame, admitted her faullts and tried to fix them, yet, she is the one, who should be constantly reminded of her mistake? what makes her different form other characters? have we EVER saw anyone telling Clark "you should repay them somehow the door you destroyed when you speed thourgh them" or to Chloe "you shouldnt really hack in all those secured systems, someone could track you down". Are those mistakes ever adressed? no. why? because they are here so often it doesnt really bother anyone anymore, they are flawed as it gets, yet Lois is blamed for every single mistake and should be clearly burried alive just for the sake of punishing her, right?

[ChlarkerFan]

I was a never a huge Lois fan but this year I like her a lot and she does take responsibility for her actions so I don't see why we are hammering that Lois should get punished more than she was. At the end of the day this is a tv show and none of the characters ever face realistic consequences.

[geminis]

Back to Stiletto; have watched it yet again and it's still wonderful. Clark's abs still make me giddy and spellbound, Chloe has me in tears, Jimmy has me cringing and cheering, and Lois is so... Lois.

Lois and Clark's phone booth and Daily Planet convo's have me in raptures. Now I want/need a bear claw.

[saltyweeks]

Excellent review. Jeffrey, are you a professional writer?

I am, but I am an amateur at Smallville :p

[HeartChakraBabe]

I gave it an 8. Enjoyable ep over-all, but it had it's lame moments

[Promise]

Until you can provide a non-subjective definition of a filler episode, then the WIKI one is unfortunately the most reliable source.





I can provide a non-subjective definition of a filler episode and that is ----> Stilleto.:D

[LorelaiG]

heheh I love non subtle defintions I have some

For LAME: Power Requiem
Boring: Abyss

I have more but I ned to sleep

[cloisthelegendbegins]

I can provide a non-subjective definition of a filler episode and that is ----> Stilleto.:D

That's not a definition, it's an opinion. Not liking an episode doesn't automatically make it a filler. :D

[Jade4813]

I'm giving it a 7. There were things I enjoyed about it; things I didn't. I heartily enjoyed Clark in this episode, which gives it an automatic boost. I also liked how he grunted in "pain" at the end. Yeah, he was trying to get to Lois, but he didn't forget three seconds after the fact that he'd been shot and should have been in pain. And neither did the Smallville writers! :lol:

Making Shelby a girl, though? *sigh*

I don't know if it was the migraine, but some of the dialogue was incomprehensible to me. And as for the story itself, well...I didn't like Lois's choices in this episode, but she recognized she'd been wrong, she apologized for it, and she realized that her actions could have had far worse consequences. That's pretty good, IMO, and is certainly more than we've gotten with the characters in the past in some instances and is likely more than we'll get at some points in the future. :lol: So, hey, I don't expect her to be perfect and I'm fine with the fact that she made a mistake and recognized it as such.

Honestly, though, when Clark at the end mentioned that there might be a better name than the RBB, I almost cried. Could we get that name already? Like, now, please? Because RBB - any way you cut it - is a pretty lame name for the guy.

Finally, it's sad that the episode conflicted with itself with the Bluretto shippers online. Still puzzling out where those came from, since Lois never got that story published.

But apart from some nitpicks, I enjoyed the episode. Lois is always a treat to watch, and she had some fun this episode. NOT a fan of what they're doing to Jimmy. But I AM enjoying what they're doing with Clark for the most part. A fun episode overall, so it gets a 7 from me.

[k852]

I loved Stiletto! It was so much better than the episodes on Lana Lang. Chloe's situation is heart breaking. I'll be glad when they take her out of it. I hope she and Jimmy get back together. I loved that talk Lois had with Clark at the end. Good episode!:)

[ColdPlay3r]

meh

-8-

[Lea]

I gave it a full 9. The last Clois scene at the DP was just... perfect. I was smiling so hard at the screen, I'm sure I looked completely crazy. Both TW and ED were amazing. I loved how Clark was so clearly touched by her bringing him breakfast, then seemed to recover his cool and thanked her in a very manly, very not-impressed way, then proceeded to groan all the way to his cup of coffe, glancing sideways with that just a little too smug expression on his face. I didn't know whether I wanted to slap him or hug him. Probably both. It was hilarious.
And Lois... I understand what people are saying about her "Stiletto" scheme being ridiculous and over the top, and that it was a lesson about professional integrity she didn't really need to learn in the first place, but to me, that last scene made it up for all of this. She's obviously humbled and very uncomfortable with what she'd done, trying to express her gratitude to Clark in every possible way except the obvious one, and then he says that line about her coming to his rescue and she suddenly sees the opening she so desperately needs, and dives for it without even thinking: "You're right! You're the one who..." and Clark gets this look on his face, like he knows he's given her an out and he expects her to take full advantage of it, to put on her though façade and give him a piece of her mind because hey, it's really him who got himself in that mess in the first place, therefore he should be the one to thank her for saving his butt. And he's not going to argue, he'll let her get away with that. He even looks at her encouragingly. And then she realizes what she’s doing. She stops, conflicted, steels herself, making a decision. “Smallville, if you hadn’t been there too…” She won’t hide. She won’t try to evade her responsibilities. She won’t pretend she doesn’t need him, even if he just offered her the chance to deny it. That’s Lois Lane, folks.

Wow, I'm glad I put that out of my chest. That scene really got at me. Sorry for the tirade.

Other than that, I honestly didn’t expect it, but I’m growing surprisingly fond of Jimmy. I loved his reaction to Lois’ Stiletto plot. He was so embarrassed for her. Do they really need to trash him with this horrible drug addiction storyline? I liked him working together with Lois and Clark to take down the bad guys. In fact, I liked the three of them a lot through the entire episode.
I’m not, and never have been a Superman fan before Smallville, so I guess it could be said I see all this with fresh eyes. I’ve heard a lot of people saying that Lois and Jimmy should be the core of the show together with Clark, but tonight, for the first time it occurred to me that it really would be great. One more thing I look forward to for season 9.

[AppreheNsiVe]

Neither loved it nor hated it.A good episode but not something special considering we are waiting shocking episodes in the days ahead..

[BadaBingBadaBoomsday]

^^^ Welcome Bill.

[Tompouce]

This episode was not a filler at all, the main reason is how we see Clark more and more mature. In Stiletto, we can say he rocks with his ideas, reactions, thoughts,...His character is growing little by little but HERE, it was a huge step

[xrayvision]

Yeah I just realized a stiletto is a type of knife, LOL. I'm surprised the BDA even knew that one.

He isn't a BDA anymore. The only BDA aspect there was this season was his handling of the Lana factor, which after Stiletto is something I'd say is gone since I don't think he would ever take her back.

[Ella]

Smallville Studios, a few weeks ago...

Brian Peterson: Ah. This is wonderful. I love doing these Easter Egg hunts here with the local Cub Scouts. We stopped doing these things in the late 80s.

Lois Lane: Because of financial cutbacks?

Peterson: No. Because of the Meteor Shower. Anyway, let's get started. (to the assembled crowd) Hello everyone and welcome to Smallville's Easter Egg Hunt With The Stars. We want to welcome Cub Scout Pack 152 to the event. Hello everyone. I'm sure you're all big Smallville fans.

Cub Scouts All Cheer.

Chloe Sullivan: Wow. You certainly are big fans of ours. Look at this kid right here. He has red eyes just like Martian Manhunter! That's cute. You a Martian Manhunter fan, kid?

Cub Scout Timmy: No. I have allergies.

Jimmy Olsen: (thinking for a moment) Can I have one?

Lois: (whispering) Jimmy, we need to talk about this storyline of yours. Its getting out of hand.

Kelly Souders: (continuing) Anyway, today you'll be going up against your favorite Smallville stars in an Easter Egg hunt. You kids ready? Great! First, let me introduce you all to our main character - Clark Kent.

Clark Kent: Yo.

Cub Scout Joey: Hey! That's the guy who felt my mom's red jacket at the 7-11 this morning!

Clark snaps his head to Lois in denial.

Clark: He's lying!

Lois: You promised me you'd stop.

Peterson: Also from Smallville.. Retcon!

Silence.

Peterson: (pointing) It was a joke.

Silence.

Sounders: Look. Let's just get this thing started. There are about 15 eggs hidden among all the pageantry of Smallville Studios. It's up to you scouts and our characters to find them. Now, avoid the green ones if you can. First prize gets a $100 gift certificate to our show. Are you ready? I said, are you ready?

Cub Scouts cheer.

Souders: Go!

Children and Smallville stars scurry about. Immediately one scout finds an egg hidden underneath a giant picture of Al Gough and Satan drinking beer.

Cub Scout Billy: I found one! An egg! I'm winning!

A short distance away Jimmy approaches the Easter Bunny.

Jimmy: So you're a bunny, huh?

Easter Bunny nods.

Jimmy: Why are you wearing a bowtie? Where did you get a bowtie?

Easter Bunny shrugs.

Jimmy: (irate) HOW DID YOU GET A BOWTIE?! You can't buy it! You don't have any pockets to hold money! Hell, you DON'T EVEN HAVE PANTS!

Lois: (grabbing Jimmy in a headlock) Excuse us.

From across the room Doomsday stares at the egg for a second before slaming his hand into it – spraying yolk everywhere.

Chloe: Doomy. We discussed this. You don't smash the eggs. You hold them.

Doomsday: Now when you say hold them, do you mean smash them?

Chloe: No. I mean hold them.

Doomsday: …like in a smashing motion?

Chloe: No. Like in a holding motion.

Doomsday: (perplexed) But then how do they get smashed?

Peterson: Are you kidding me? You're supposed to…

Clark comes running over and raising his hand.

Clark: Excuse me! Brian! Hey! Um. (points) He's cursing.

Cub Scout Billy: I am not!

Clark: He said the S curse. He said, "Who do they think I am? I'm not S – U – P – E - R - M - A - N." I told him I'm telling.

Billy: I did not! You're just saying that because I found more eggs than you!

Peterson: Is that so? Let's find out. OK, everyone! Come in. Time to count up the eggs. Put what you found up here and we'll count them. Dooms, your yolky hands don't count as an egg.

After a few moments of counting, Peterson and Souders returns to the crowd.

Souders: Wow. The final tally is in. It seems that Billy found 6 eggs! He narrowly has beaten Clark, who only found 5 eggs and hair mousse. So it's my pleasure to give the $100 certificate award to… myself, via a kind donation from our trooper Billy. Everyone, give it up for him.

Polite applause.

Cub Scout Billy: Hey! Wait! Thats my award!

Peterson: Of course. And per the contract your parents signed, the winner donates his money to our budget. Congradulations kiddo.

Billy: This stinks! Your budget stinks, Peterson!

Clark: (not picking up the sarcasm) Ha ha. Exactly!

Peterson: OK. Enough. Charity time over. Everyone get off my property before I release the hounds…


I love this review, Cedric! I laughed so hard! :lol: So where can I find your other reviews?? I want to read your earlier ones because I've only read about 4 and so far I really, really love your sense of humor. If you could send me a link or something (hopefully you have them archived) and I will definitely check 'em out! :D

[jobookjunkie]

Cedric that review was just made of win! I wondered how much you would appreciate Lois in leather :lol: Personally I loved Stiletto, I'm rewatching it AGAIN right now :D

[superjude]

Cedric, Awesome review! Once again!
I happen to love reading the long reviews! It has been something that I look forward to after every episode and keeps me going until the next episode.
Stiletto was a really good episode and I also loved that DP scene between Clark and Lois where she eats his bear claw.

[red_sun1938]

Yet another "fill" episode. Im still waiting for them to talk about this "clark kent" guy and how he's suppose to be superman.

Tick tock.... the clock is ticking.

Yeah, that would be a great episode, maybe even a 3 or 4 episode arc. Oh wait... :confused:

[dcmarriott]

This episode was not perfect, for the reasons given by saltyweeks, but it went farther than most in develping the characters of Clark and Lois, and the relationship between them. I gave it a 9, although if we were allowed a more precise scale, I would have given it an 8.5.

[tibbit78]

How can this be a filler episode when it had some classic Superman music at the end of Stiletto, and Lois said what (Margot Kidder says in the Superman movies):

"Can You Read My Mind?" I just love that song.

This cannot be a filler when it reminds me of the Superman movies (especially Christopher Reeve's Superman movies).

I just loved that Superman music at the end of Stiletto!!

[mimi1123]

I liked it -- much better than I expected to. I liked the corny 1950s-style thugs (that print counterfiet money no less!). Chloe was great. Jimmy, however, is flapping in the wind. His character is a complete mish mash at this point. I gave it an 8.

[disciples of zod]

7. here's why:

FILLER!!!!!! i would have originally gave it a 5, but the ending made it sooo much better. so good ending. applaud for Clois! :)

~K

[BIGBMH]

With the exeption of the phone conversation in the last few minutes, I thought it was one of the show's worst episodes. So many problems: The story felt forced. Lois has integrity and wouldn't forge such BS. If she did, she would at least be better at faking (why would a mysterious super hero pose to let Jimmy take her picture?). The Kryptonite placement in this episode was ridiculous. Chloe being so irresponsible with the laptop. I usually enjoy episodes even if they're not up to par. This time it was more like "Gosh! Who wrote this crap!"

[Mickey_Bickey]

I just want to address the filler accusation, because to be honest I haven't read one strong argument that it is. I have read, however, very intelligent posts debunking that accusation and explaining why it isn't a filler.

There were three current arcs addressed in this episode, RBB, Clois and Doomsday. It also introduced Intergang and gave us IMO the most iconic moment of the series with Clark/RBB/Lois triangle in the phone booth conversation. These are the reasons it's not a filler.

Can anyone actually come up with a strong argument (by that I mean really back what you're saying) about it being a filler.

Over and over again, I'm reading well written posts about why it's not a filler. I would love to read one that explains in depth why it is.

[cyberone]

I loved the conversation between Lois and Clark, and the reference to a better name than the "Red-Blue-blur", only fitting to finally call our Super Hero "Superman" hint before the Doomsday episode. I think the writer's have out done themselves this Season. Season 8 has been great.

[thehenry89]

Great review cedric I don't know how you do it but you just have a great comedic gift when it comes to episode overviews. Next week looks pretty dull for me, but I will anxiously await your review :)

[stenochick]

This episode was not filler, IMO. It just had a cheesy, low-budget feel to it. I made the mistake of watching it right after watching Heroes on my TiVo DVR and the difference is very startling. If they could just get a better score, I think that would go a long way in terms of overall quality. Also, there is just something that I do not care for in Caroline's writing.

However, I loved all of the Clois banter, Clark being so proactive and smart and adorable, the casting of Bruno Mannheim (even though he had corny lines), getting a peak at TW's abs, and most of all the final DP scene with Clois and the final phone booth scene with Clois.

[saltyweeks]

I just want to address the filler accusation, because to be honest I haven't read one strong argument that it is. I have read, however, very intelligent posts debunking that accusation and explaining why it isn't a filler.

There were three current arcs addressed in this episode, RBB, Clois and Doomsday. It also introduced Intergang and gave us IMO the most iconic moment of the series with Clark/RBB/Lois triangle in the phone booth conversation. These are the reasons it's not a filler.

Can anyone actually come up with a strong argument (by that I mean really back what you're saying) about it being a filler.

Over and over again, I'm reading well written posts about why it's not a filler. I would love to read one that explains in depth why it is.

agree Mickey_Bickey, it doesn't fit the established definitions. also think some folks thing anything comic or light is automatically filler, which it is not.

one of the reasons the word "filler" may be getting so much play, however, is that the show's producers very well could have taken the season in this direction-- much more focus on Lois and Clark and the RBB than the Doomsday arc. i personally don't think that necessarily would have been a better choice, but for some folks it probably would have been what they are more interested in. hence, stuff that is good for the show and should be focused on becomes "filler" to people only because a lot of the stuff-- Lois' career, Clark's heroics as the RBB, the Daily Planet dynamic-- has previously taken place offscreen and just been mentioned before.

that doesn't make this stuff filler, however, just material they choose not to focus on as much this season as perhaps they should have. it's only filler in the sense that it takes place around some very heavy arcs that aren't similar in tone. that's why i found parts of the episode-- Chloe and Jimmy's story lines-- jarring next to the Lois and Clark stuff.

so, some questionable issues about focus and tone. but that doesn't make it filler. filler would be something unrelated to the show's arc and themes this season, something just to get by for a week, which this wasn't. as some people have pointed out it might have been in the wrong PLACE in the season (or parts of it might). but not filler.

[disciples of zod]

I just want to address the filler accusation, because to be honest I haven't read one strong argument that it is. I have read, however, very intelligent posts debunking that accusation and explaining why it isn't a filler.

There were three current arcs addressed in this episode, RBB, Clois and Doomsday. It also introduced Intergang and gave us IMO the most iconic moment of the series with Clark/RBB/Lois triangle in the phone booth conversation. These are the reasons it's not a filler.

Can anyone actually come up with a strong argument (by that I mean really back what you're saying) about it being a filler.

Over and over again, I'm reading well written posts about why it's not a filler. I would love to read one that explains in depth why it is.


ok, so i admit i wasn't thinking that this ep was a filler. i just got bored while watching it...except the end :D

~K

[CBS]

Stiletto was not the greatest episode, but I wouldn't call it a filler episode. It didn't so much focus on the main plot of the season (Doomsday) but that’s ok. I like how the writers are taking it slow with <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">Clark</st1:place>’s transition into superman, and as much as I would love to see him fly, and put on the suit, I love how they are really going into detail about how he becomes superman. This episode gave <st1:place w:st="on">Clark</st1:place> a reason to start a relationship as the red blue blur with Lois and they talked about a better name then the red blue blur (thank god). Anyway I liked it as a whole! Good job!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

[tibbit78]

I just want to address the filler accusation, because to be honest I haven't read one strong argument that it is. I have read, however, very intelligent posts debunking that accusation and explaining why it isn't a filler.

There were three current arcs addressed in this episode, RBB, Clois and Doomsday. It also introduced Intergang and gave us IMO the most iconic moment of the series with Clark/RBB/Lois triangle in the phone booth conversation. These are the reasons it's not a filler.

Can anyone actually come up with a strong argument (by that I mean really back what you're saying) about it being a filler.

Over and over again, I'm reading well written posts about why it's not a filler. I would love to read one that explains in depth why it is.




I agree with every word you said, Michelle.

[stargirl14]

I gave it an 8

Bruno Manheim = win IMO

Wasn't as action packed as I hoped but both Lois & Clark did very well together. Next week looks rockin cool with Davis tossing Clark WWE style!!


exactly!plus, i thought it was corny beyond all belief:mad:

[myloveahmed]

great eisode....loved all the Clois scenes!!

[LuckyLois]

Cedric, loved your review as usual! Chloe cooking for Davis to protect ClarK, good one!:lol:

[-Nora-]

Kevin Fair (director of Siren, Odyssey, Abyss, Turbulence, and Stiletto): "I love Lois. For me, she's been one of the best characters, and I love the Clark/Lois relationship. I got a little of it in Odyssey, but I haven't really worked with Erica since. I love Erica's sense of humor and sensibilities. Erica will bring a lot to [the episode Stiletto] and will have some great comedic elements. She's very funny, and her disguising [herself] as a superhero is going to be a blast!"

[BIGBMH]

I won't say that it was 100% filler because it did progress the plot. However the idea of making Lois a superhero for an episode and have it not have any long term implications is very filler-ish. It was unnecessary and I found it to be quite lame. The main plot of the episode was Lois as Stiletto which will have no impact on the rest of the story and probably won't even be referenced again. I feel that when the main plot is that gimmicky and has no real purpose, the episode is more filler than most. So my final verdict is that the episode wasn't filler but Lois being Stilleto was just a waste of time.

[lois346]

I'm watching it right now I like it so far. Lois kicked asss during that fight!

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But why did they have green k in the money? I didn't finish it yet but I'm almost at the end of it.

[F..l]

9/10!
I love the ending :) It was so hilarious :D

[ms. misty]

I gave it a 2. Didn't like this episode very much.

[mrs.clark.kent]

i found this episode hilarious..
and its better than i expected it to be..
lois looked so hot..
she talking to the red blue blur on the other line was the best part of this episode..
can't wait for the part where lois and clark will "really" kiss.. LOL.

7 out of 10 for me..

[mfarhaniqbal33]

I don't think anyone here knows what filler means! Filler episode are morally an episode that has nothing to do with the actual plot of the Show! How the eff all of you thought this was a filler Episode!!
Let's review!
Future Legendary Lois Lane cooked up a fake story. Moral Dont Do it ever again! Lois Became admant bout how to get a story!
Clark stepS into future progresses further
Mythology of the Show Lois will give Clark a name we all know what that would be I am pretty sure that is very revelant to the plot of smallville!
RBB and Lois interaction future superman promsing her a First exclusive interview! Another story progression!
Chloe and Davis story progressed! Chloe lying to Clark which will affect on their relationship later on! Chloe feeding a man to Doomsday! All of these are not filler episode plots! Idiots i swear all the negative people have no brains think before u speak!

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Bruno crime boss from smallville mythology! Lois saying to put am S on her chest
Clark taking a bullet for Lois! Green Meteors not
only played a huge part in Clark being a hero but it progreessed their relationship
into more of Romantic level

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Great review cedric I don't know how you do it but you just have a great comedic gift when it comes to episode overviews. Next week looks pretty dull for me, but I will anxiously await your review :)

I wud love to know how do u feel bout the episode beast mow becuz Episode beast was awesome supposedly that looked Dull!

[Cloisfan_90]

Absolutely loved it..!!

[Nimkong]

This episode was terrible.I only liked how the blur called lois again.But i hated the plot and lois being a superhero was retarted

[svfanforlife]

I liked this episode. It would've got an 10 if it wasn't for Doomsday, but oh, well. I give it an 9.

[ck123]

excellent^^

[BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow]

Decent episode. One of the few bad episodes of the season.